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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2009, 09:18:11 PM »
That's why they call it the enthusiast press.  You're there to promote as much as review. 

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« Reply #26 on: January 25, 2009, 12:54:57 AM »
The point of my comment about listening to the internet was that if Miyamoto had listened to the internet, Nintendo wouldn't be in the position it is today.  One of the things that Miyamoto said at one point was that (to paraphrase) his job was to give people something that they never even knew they wanted.

The internet isn't necessarily the voice of the people.  It's the voice of the most hardcore and passionate, which doesn't necessarily equate to sales.  Just because IGN is campaigning for somebody to publish Winter doesn't mean that it would sell any appreciable amount.  I mean, there has to be a reason why these companies aren't biting, right?  Maybe they don't feel the concept is original enough.
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2009, 03:12:48 AM »
The point of my comment about listening to the internet was that if Miyamoto had listened to the internet, Nintendo wouldn't be in the position it is today.  One of the things that Miyamoto said at one point was that (to paraphrase) his job was to give people something that they never even knew they wanted.

The internet isn't necessarily the voice of the people.  It's the voice of the most hardcore and passionate, which doesn't necessarily equate to sales.  Just because IGN is campaigning for somebody to publish Winter doesn't mean that it would sell any appreciable amount.  I mean, there has to be a reason why these companies aren't biting, right?  Maybe they don't feel the concept is original enough.


I think it has to do with not wanting to take a risk on a system that wasn't quite proven at the time. Let's face it there has been no real "big" third party core title that has shown there is a large userbase for those kinds of games on Wii.
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« Reply #28 on: January 25, 2009, 03:39:36 AM »
I mean, there has to be a reason why these companies aren't biting, right?  Maybe they don't feel the concept is original enough.

I don't think "not original enough" is in their vocabulary.

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« Reply #29 on: January 25, 2009, 03:37:40 PM »
Yeah, I think "too original" might be what keeps publishers away.
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« Reply #30 on: January 25, 2009, 03:48:45 PM »
The point of my comment about listening to the internet was that if Miyamoto had listened to the internet, Nintendo wouldn't be in the position it is today.  One of the things that Miyamoto said at one point was that (to paraphrase) his job was to give people something that they never even knew they wanted.

As a Nintendo fan, I completely agree with this. As a Nintendo fan, I WANT Nintendo to follow their own star, even if it means they do stuff differently from what I feel they should.
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2009, 05:29:07 PM »
The point of my comment about listening to the internet was that if Miyamoto had listened to the internet, Nintendo wouldn't be in the position it is today.  One of the things that Miyamoto said at one point was that (to paraphrase) his job was to give people something that they never even knew they wanted.

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« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2009, 05:51:20 PM »
*Drools*

Has Miyamoto written a book? Everytime I stumble over a blurb or quote of his, I feel so warm and fuzzy inside.

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« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2009, 06:24:05 PM »
I don't think Nintendo would ever let him write a book.  His game design philosophies are way too valuable, and are surely under NDA into eternity.
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #34 on: January 25, 2009, 09:42:00 PM »
I'm actually quite taken with the point several posters have made, that we need to accept the fact that we're enthusiast press, and that we shouldn't be too surprised that we are here to promote and enthuse as much as anything else.
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #35 on: January 25, 2009, 10:05:07 PM »
Ya, but then where does honesty come in? Where do bribes come in?
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #36 on: January 26, 2009, 12:52:14 AM »
I'm actually quite taken with the point several posters have made, that we need to accept the fact that we're enthusiast press, and that we shouldn't be too surprised that we are here to promote and enthuse as much as anything else.
Please do not take that mentality when writing impressions or reviews, Cai.
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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #37 on: January 26, 2009, 12:55:51 AM »
The point of my comment about listening to the internet was that if Miyamoto had listened to the internet, Nintendo wouldn't be in the position it is today.  One of the things that Miyamoto said at one point was that (to paraphrase) his job was to give people something that they never even knew they wanted.

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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2009, 01:05:13 AM »
I'm actually quite taken with the point several posters have made, that we need to accept the fact that we're enthusiast press, and that we shouldn't be too surprised that we are here to promote and enthuse as much as anything else.
Please do not take that mentality when writing impressions or reviews, Cai.

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Re: What Role Should the Games Media Play in Getting Games Made?
« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2009, 01:35:56 AM »
What are you going to do when a subpar game comes out that is so fantastically creative that you would like a sequel to work through all the problems?
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« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2009, 02:06:55 AM »
What are you going to do when a subpar game comes out that is so fantastically creative that you would like a sequel to work through all the problems?

Say so? Those types of games aren't uncommon. I mean, Kororinpa was too short wasn't it? And Red Steel was... well... Red Steel.
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« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2009, 04:23:06 AM »
What are you going to do when a subpar game comes out that is so fantastically creative that you would like a sequel to work through all the problems?

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