Topic: Mafia XXXI: Finale

[Khushrenada]

Story post

[Khushrenada]

Announcement Post

Results:

Insanolord - Bomber's Apprentice (killed in vote)
Dasmos - Blanca /Coon 2 (death by bomber)
TheNorthSea - Villager (death by bomber)
Nickmitch - Villager (death by bomber)
Vudu - Tom Nook (death by bomber)
Nuclearspeed - Coon 1 (killed by Foxes)


That leaves TheFleece still living. Fox #1 has done it. Foxes win the game. Yessssssss!

[Khushrenada]

Inside scoop.

And now for the real results. They're not as cool.

Results:

Insanolord - Fox 1 (killed in vote)

That leaves an equal number of villagers and Coons. Coons win. Boooooooooo. Villagers throw away their chance to come back and win by voting out the wrong person.

Final identities:

Dasmos - Blanca/Coon 2
Nickmitch - Villager
Nuclearspeed - Coon 1
TheFleece - Villager
TheNorthSea - Villager
Vudu - Tom Nook


Your official winners of Mafia 31 are: Crimm, Dasmos, Nuclearspeed, Plugabugz, Vudu. Congratulations.

But wait? What about the bomber's apprentice. Well, that is an interesting story. My twist on Cube and the B.A. was this: Cube would pick his apprentice when he died. That way, Cube would know who the B.A was and the B.A. would know who Cube was when his identity was revealed by his death. Such a clever twist. Plus, it would mean that the B.A. would survive late in the game and not be killed too early or before Cube. As well, it might sucker some people into thinking that I was posing as the B.A. like Bill.

However, things did not go as plan. Easycure died and never showed up to name a successor. The way it would work was that Easycure could choose anybody to take his place, even the host if he wanted to go the traditional route. However, choosing the host meant that one would give up any chance of winning by an apprentice. With Easycure not around, I could do a random assignment of the B.A. but in the end, I decided not to. Let's face it, Easycure had the best shot at winning this game since no one wanted to touch him and when someone finally did, he'd be able to name an apprentice to further his chances. Why further the bomber's chances of winning if he couldn't show up to vote just to stay alive? Therefore, I decided to name no one as the apprentice and for story purposes, I will take the role of the B.A. And that is that.

End discussion may now begin. I want to hear about all the deception you guys were up to.

[Dasmos]

Oh bullshit, you cannot be serious.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Something doesn't add up.

Waiting patiently for inside scoop.

[decoyman]

WUT!

[nickmitch]

Damnit.

[Spak-Spang]

ha, if thefleece was the final fox, then he could have totally won the game with a well designed team with the townies, but is Khush trying to equal the surprise ending of the original game?

Did Easy Cure get in touch with you about the Aprentice?

I do think this is a funny ending, but seriously...the townies almost won.

[Khushrenada]

Yeah, I just like to mess with you players. The real results have been posted. Congratulations Coons.

[NWR_DrewMG]

HA.  I knew it. 

Coons played a great game.  They let us Foxes do all the dirty work for them, and then got us in the vote.   

[decoyman]

Ahaha XD

[TheFleece]

As the robot Townie it's fitting that I survived the whole thing. Poor carbon based life forms. Too bad there wasn't more clear solidarity, this was the second Mafia I played and again I'm among the last to stand. Overall it was fun, but I'm at work and can't really expound everything I want right now.

[Dasmos]

Awesome.

Firstly, I'd like to apologise to the townies for ditching them in a time of need, but no-one was listening to me. I wanted to win with you guys, but you kept following vudu's idiotic lead. The townies sinking ship and I wanted to swim to victory.

Secondly, I'd like to apologise to Plugabugz for hijacking his position on the Coons, I had originally targetted vudu with my power, but changed it to you soon after. Soz.

Thirdly, I want to make sure I am never on a mafia side with Pale, voting out two of his own members is pretty intense.

Lastly, I'd like to express how disappointed I am with that lamewad EasyCure. I say ban him from playing in the next two mafias.

[decoyman]

Taking out Pale was the game-decider. He'd put himself in prime position in the "townie" alliance (in quotes because it was more mafia than townie, I think ), and when he went out, our best chance at winning the endgame went with him.

Nice job, Coons.

... but seriously, good job. You guys played a good game.

[NWR_DrewMG]

Actually Pale played a great game, and when he voted out Decoy and I, it was in the best interest of the team.  Pale earned the trust of BFS, and that enabled us Foxes to vote out Sable, Mint and eventually BFS himself.  Can't play much better than that.

I'm still bitter that vudu tricked everyone into voting for me.  His logic was somethin' else, I tell you what.

[Pale]

I was very confused.

It's hilarious that the two godfathers were both spending their time convincing the other that they were in fact a townie. And both of them were allied with the cop.

The lame part is that vudu pulled the trigger on me first. I should have killed vudu instead of BFS when I had the chance. ARGH.

[decoyman]

Lastly, I'd like to express how disappointed I am with that lamewad EasyCure. I say ban him from playing in the next two mafias.

Ditto. I wanted to see some fireworks. It's like you canceled the 4th of July!

[Spak-Spang]

So for 2 days in a row the townies tried to vote out Dasmos.  One day he was still a townie, the next day he was guilty as sin, and only barely escaped.

Don't you think that should have been a sign?  But yesterday you let the Coon Mafia take control of the situation...voting for insanolord and taking the initiative to end the game and start the band wagon....not even a single person voted for Dasmos.  Frustrating. 

This game could have easily gone one more day...and could have even ended in a townie victory.  Heck, even a fox victory was possible but unlikely.  The foxes lost the game after choosing to kill blackfootsteps instead of a Coon.  Poor, Poor Detective. 

[Gylldas]

Blah it figures my two votes as Mint were the worst possible ones.  Should've voted out decoyman and Dasmos.  We wouldn't have lost Blanca to the mafia.

So did you guys know I was Mint when you hit me?

[Dasmos]

Ahaha yeah. I survived 3 vote ties, that's got to be some sort of record. Also Gylldas on Day 2 i was very much gunning for a townie win. It wasn't until Day 5 when I decided the townies had no hope.

[BeautifulShy]

Its ridiculous how many mafia was in the two alliances.Pale was in both.Vudu was in the first.Fleece was in all of them including the one with North Sea late in the game.

[decoyman]

No, we didn't know you were Mint, Gylldas. And actually, I put in a good word for you, because I liked that you were role-playing.

We were thinking you might be Sable, though... and if you were Sable, you needed to be gone ASAP.

[Gylldas]

Role-playing and saved your butt!

The day I was hit Shyguy sent me a pm telling me he thought I was townie and asked if I was in the "townie"(mafia) alliance.  He told me to talk to Maxi.  I told Maxi my role, I figured he was a townie because he was being protected by Sable.  After his last minute vote switch I became suspicious of him so I decided to vote out GP, who he saved from the vote.  My suspicion of Maxi was further fueled after I was killed the next day. 

This was my first time having a real role in mafia so sorry I effed it up big time!

Congrats Coons!

[Pale]

My gut told me Vudu was mafia, because he was spouting all this crap about targeting the coons specifically.

Honestly, a townie never cares which mafia they are hitting as long as they hit a mafia.

Again, I blew it because I killed BFS instead of Vudu with the Fox's last hit.

[Pale]

Yeah Gyl...

Early on Maxi was going hard core when it came to watching PMs and what not in the Who's Online screen.  This is VERY bad for mafia, so we wanted him dead.

We knew Sable was protecting him, which told us that he must have somehow convinced a player that he was good.  I made the jump that that player must be relatively new (no offense) to mafia because usually they wouldn't protect someone without proof.

I then looked at who was participating that was also new, and figured it was you.

Turns out it was ShyGuy, =P

[Plugabugz]

Secondly, I'd like to apologise to Plugabugz for hijacking his position on the Coons, I had originally targetted vudu with my power, but changed it to you soon after. Soz.

You did the right thing there, because it allowed vudu to get away and play townie right to the end.

[NuclearSpeed]

With vudu's alliance with BFS we knew that Pale and nickmitch had come back townies and the thought was that maybe one was the other godfather and the right choice was made. That day is what swung it in our favor, of course if vudu would have got hit we may still have been able to get there but it would have been a much harder sell and climb to get there.

[TofuFury]

Its ridiculous how many mafia was in the two alliances.Pale was in both.Vudu was in the first.Fleece was in all of them including the one with North Sea late in the game.

Actually, after finding out Pale was mafia, I decided not to form any more alliances. I was too paranoid to seek out TheFleece. Sorry about that.

Had the game continued, I was ready to call out nuclearspeed for all the shady things he was doing late in the game. Turns out I should've done it yesterday. Bummer.

Good game all.

[vudu]

Believe it or not, this is my first legit win.  (I don't count F-Zero mafia, because there were some shady happenings at the end of that game.)

I don't mind saying I'm really proud that I was able to pull that off.  Of course it helped that I had fantastic teammates.  Plugabugz and NuclearSpeed are masters at staying off everyone's radar.  I don't think either of them were ever really in danger from being voted out once during the entire game.  Crimm can burn in Hell.  Also, I want to officially state that is sucks Plugabugz isn't credited for a win.

The single biggest piece of luck for me this game was when BFS contacted me out of the blue on Day 4.  We stuck up a conversation and he made an offhand comment about Nickmitch either being a townie or a Godfather.  I knew then that I had found the Cop.  After that it was the simple matter of gaining his trust and trying to steer him away from investigating my teammates.  I think I was effective, but you'll have to check with BFS to be sure.

My fight with Dasmos was by far the trickiest part of the entire game.  I spent two days rallying forces against him, only to have him join my team.  Explaining to everyone that that we should put off voting for Dasmos (not once, but twice) after I had already argued so hard that he was mafia was difficult.  We got really lucky that killed two Foxes on Day 7, because I'm not sure how I could have done it if there were still two Foxes alive on Day 8.

Regarding Pale:  I knew early on that he was likely Crazy Red.  BFS told me that both Pale and Nickmitch came back as townies when investigated.  Since BFS was killed shortly after Sable died, one of them had to be Crazy Red.  Nickmitch's voting records pointed to the fact that he was a legit townie.

On Day 7 I was able to figure out that besides Pale the remaining Foxes were likely Insanolord and DrewMG.  (I threw in EasyCure as well on the off chance I could get someone else to take him out.)  I got a bit lucky that TheFleece decided to pick DrewMG out of the list.  If he hadn't started the bandwagon things would have ended differently.  (Thanks, buddy!) 

Overall I think this was a great game (and I'm not just saying that because I won).  Khush's games are generally very-well balanced and this game was no exception.  The only complaint I have was I don't like the way the Bomber's Apprentice was handled.  It seems a bit over-powered to let the Bomber choose his apprentice after he's already dead.  Thankfully, it didn't come into play.  Thank you Khush for hosting!

[Khushrenada]

Plugabugz did get credit for the win. It was announced when I declared the winners.

[vudu]

So he is.  My bad!

[nickmitch]

I should've been able to see through Vudu's plan.  Dasmos was the clue that I missed.

[ShyGuy]

It's tough for the townies to win when the two Godfathers are vudu and Pale. I was right about everyone except for them.

[Khushrenada]

All in all, it was a crazy game. The vigilante killed no one, Death killed no one, the bomber killed no one and the B.A. never came into play. The foxes killed 3 important townie roles, Mint, Sable, Copper and they lost. Coons had a hit blocked and lost a member by inactivity but they won. Despite the lack of death and hit blocks, the townies kept doing everything they could to throw away victory and yet, they always ended up having a chance at victory no matter how badly they kept making things. Crazy stuff. For two mafias to go as long as they did without killing on another or voting one another out was also incredible. It made for a high stakes finale. Coons were lucky that Insanolord didn't decide that if the foxes couldn't win, neither should the coons, and reveal who he was to take down the other mafia.

All in all, good game Vudu. Probably your best mafia showing and a well deserved victory. Honorable mention to Dasmos, evader of tie votes. After the struggle you went through this game, you also deserved a win for that effort. It remins me of the 007 mafia where you also seemed to end up in a few voting ties as well but managed to evade them. Thanks to everyone who played. You made this a great unpredicatable game and I had a great time watching it all unfold as I'm sure you did playing it.

[NuclearSpeed]

there was a pm sent from insanolord to vudu last night that would have been much better served as a post in the thread. In it he declared him guilty as the last fox and that for a townie win he needed to be saved.

that ship jumping by dasmos almost threw us too, since he was now on the side of vudu who had tried hard to get him out.

the slowly dwindling number of townies with no mafia going was very strange.

[vudu]

As NuclearSpeed already said, Insanolord sent me these PMs last night.

If you're a townie you're making a big mistake.

I am a townie, but your voting record indicated you are not.  You've barely voted this entire game.  One of your few votes was a throw-away vote for Pale.  I don't doubt you've been busy, but I also think you're laying low and off the radar in order to avoid suspicion.

I wasn't doing it on purpose, it just happened that way. This may be my 9th game of Mafia but I haven't really learned how to play. I definitely haven't learned enough to get me out of this situation. I am mafia, but I'm the last Fox. I'm telling you this because I'd rather see the townies win than the Coons, and you lose if I die tonight.

[blackfootsteps]

Wow, I knew it was likely that I had one godfather in my townie alliance, but two? You bastards!

What are the chances of that? I decided that if people came back townie I would trust them, with the exception of not revealing roled townies, in this case Shyguy.

As far as Vudu goes, I never investigated him (wouldn't have mattered), but the fact he'd been in close contact (AFAIK) with Shyguy, and his reputation as a solid player (I can't believe this is your first win?!) meant he'd be a strong ally. I figured with Shyguy, my ulitmate ally dead I needed to bolster my alliance. Definitely the biggest tactical mistake I made.

I figured that when there were three townies left in the game and I had three purported townies in my alliance I was fucked. I was pretty convinced through PMs that theNorthSea was townie. Which isn't good. I knew then I was stuffed but I was pretty sure it wasn't vudu who was the rat, he became my main sounding board. Big mistake.

When Pale had started jumping on the nick mitch bandwagons it made me uneasy, but as a townie Pale would have been justified in going after the godfather in our alliance. If NM had died Pale would probably have been outed! Both Pale and vudu did a great job gaining my trust and exploiting me shamelessly. I loved your work guys, that kind of deception is to be marveled at in the annals of mafia folklore.

I really enjoyed this game and I think at least I was suspicious of half of the right people! And I voted for mafioso every day (except poor NovaQ) and I knew there was something fishy going on with Insanolord!

[TheFleece]

The biggest thing about this Mafia was that there a lot more roles than I knew there could be. This made is hard for me to keep track of everyone and led me to all types of crazy speculations. Maxi was a good help, but even I wasn't sure to trust him since his info was as good as anyone elses. I really tried to watch how people were voting and communicating, but ultimately it didn't work out for me even though I wasn't killed.
In the first version of this game (MY FAVORITE BTW) I was the Inspector and I was ready to get all up on y'all, but too bad for the reset. It was a great game all the way through. Much more complicated than my first Mafia and I'd like to thank everyone for playing. Thanks to Khush for hosting. I think I'm going to take a break from Mafia for a bit since I played two Mafia games in a row, but I'd like to play again in the future.

[vudu]

I think I'm going to take a break from Mafia for a bit since I played two Mafia games in a row, but I'd like to play again in the future.

Some of us have played 31 mafias in a row.  Just saying. 

As far as Vudu goes, I never investigated him (wouldn't have mattered), but the fact he'd been in close contact (AFAIK) with Shyguy, and his reputation as a solid player (I can't believe this is your first win?!) meant he'd be a strong ally.

First legit win.  Again, I don't count F-Zero mafia because of the shady dealings going on during the last day.

I've been on the townie side a few times when they won (and I like to think I contributed a great deal to a couple of them) but always died towards the end and in order to win as a townie you have to be alive at the end of the game (not so for the mafia).  My luck as mafia has been mixed--again a couple times where we played a good game, but it just wasn't in the cards.

[EasyCure]

Hm, guess i wasn't missed much in this game...

Yes, i'm back. Why, hello!

Lastly, I'd like to express how disappointed I am with that lamewad EasyCure. I say ban him from playing in the next two mafias.

Funny you say that, i actually didn't want to participate in this mafia. Khush threw my name in there for the hell of it and gave me a townie roll, before the reset of course. At first i thought well, at least i won't have to be so involved, cuz the last game took its toll on me. After the reset he gave me the Bomber roll and i was dissapointed. Then i quickly read the rules and though "oh **** it, just blow myself and someone else up, and call it a day" but when i realized everyone was scared to vote the bomber out (i didnt fully understand the rules, since i skimmed over them) i thought i'd use it to my advantage... lay low and end it with a bang.

As i'm sure you've all noticed that didnt happen. I really couldn't post from work cuz all the bosses are being dicks, and i've had various personal reasons that left me unable to check up on the game when i really needed to. I really thought i had one more day to go without voting, but i was confused. I came home today thinking i'll pop in, catch up on the game, and go right back to my personal life. Nope. Dead wrong. Sorry for those that wanted to see some fireworks, i was hoping to have some BIG ones too.. alas it wasn't meant to be.

I had not a single alias, unlike the HAWTNESS mafia, and i felt it fit the character to be a loner. Sadly, my ending wasn't as glorious as i'd hoped it to be. Though, kudos to Khush for writing up an awesome death. I don't enjoy Pink Floyd but my part of the story was top notch dammit! Even though i'm literally still catching up on whats happening on the games, i must say this has been an interesting one, so thank you Khush for somewhat forcing me to play  hosting an awesome game. Next time you host, i'll sign up on the first day and actually play lol

[NuclearSpeed]

First legit win.  Again, I don't count F-Zero mafia because of the shady dealings going on during the last day.

I've been on the townie side a few times when they won (and I like to think I contributed a great deal to a couple of them) but always died towards the end and in order to win as a townie you have to be alive at the end of the game (not so for the mafia).  My luck as mafia has been mixed--again a couple times where we played a good game, but it just wasn't in the cards.

I hear on that luck as a mafia member. My first game was Pale's Poke'mafia, and was a godfather, we had things totally mapped out and was looking good, until fate would not let us kill 18 days, which in the end doomed us. And in the       F-Zero game I was killed by my own mafia members because I had the opportunity to defect at a point.

It feels good to help vudu with his first legit win, since he was on that first mafia, and we even had BFS in that mafia to help us. 

[EasyCure]

So the Bomber can easily blow himself up, specially if he knows of a townie to replace him.  If he picks mafia whatever mafia he picks will automatically win.  I wonder if the Bomber's Private Messages are being filled with bribes?

Lol just one the whole freaking game, and it was like on the 4th day. made laying low pretty easy.

Hm i just read all the commentary in the Dead Thread... geez, let me say this once more:

I'm sorry i dissapointed those who wanted to see fireworks i'm looking at you decoyman

[TheFleece]

I think I'm going to take a break from Mafia for a bit since I played two Mafia games in a row, but I'd like to play again in the future.

Some of us have played 31 mafias in a row.  Just saying. 

I'm not going to rule out my participation in the next game, but I would like some nights where I am not freaking out about losing or having to vote.
Mafia is dope- I liked that there was a post on the NWR homepage because I didn't know there was another Mafia happening! Trust me, I'll be back and hopefully in better form and practice.

[BeautifulShy]

EasyCure did you know any mafia members?

[EasyCure]

EasyCure did you know any mafia members?

I knew nothing. I really wasn't playing the game, just plotting offline at how i could come back and get everyone to vote for me without them thinking i was the bomber. I messed up though.

[BeautifulShy]

Hmm if some of the townies knew some Mafia members would you of killed them.After you blew up You could name your apprentice and posibly win it.

[Dasmos]

I don't mind saying I'm really proud that I was able to pull that off.  Of course it helped that I had fantastic teammates.  Plugabugz and NuclearSpeed are masters at staying off everyone's radar.  I don't think either of them were ever really in danger from being voted out once during the entire game.  Crimm can burn in Hell.  Also, I want to officially state that is sucks Plugabugz isn't credited for a win.

Not to be a dick or anything, but you guys weren't that great at laying low or at least not being suspicious. I suspected you vudu, for a long long time. Probably since Day 1 when you voted for stevey with a bullshit reason then left without defending yourself or your actions and it ended with him getting voted out. Then I voted for you 4 days in a row with a legitimate reason and only one person ever added another vudu vote and that was Pale on Day 6 and I had to change my vote to save myself after he and everone else changed their vote to me. You were an obvious choice, you were playing a different game than your townie routine and you were only voting out people who were confirmed to not be mafia. But somehow you were able to convince others with horrible reasoning and they kept listening to you. That angered me the most. The stupid gulliable townies.

Plugabugz was easy to spot also because he didn't give a lot of reason to his continual voting for nickmitch, it was a sort of vote and leave situation which was suspicious. NuclearSpeed was also pretty easy to spot, he's played mafia before and just like Insanolord it was clear he was trying to lay low.

I think if I had maybe tried to rally a couple of townies to my cause it would have been a different game as there was clearly a lot of things happening in PMs and stuff that I was not a part of.

[Dasmos]

I really enjoyed this game and I think at least I was suspicious of half of the right people! And I voted for mafioso every day (except poor NovaQ) and I knew there was something fishy going on with Insanolord!

I wasn't mafia when you voted for me though! That night is when I made my transformation, because I knew I probably wouldn't survive another night without mafia involvement.

[NovaQ]

I knew vudu seemed suspicious! I just had (and still have) no real idea of how to play this game successfully. I have to agree with TheFleece that all of the different roles made it tricky to get a good grip of the game. I enjoyed it, though (even just following along after my untimely death), and I'll be keeping my eyes open for the next game. Well played, Coons!

[NuclearSpeed]

i've always layed fairly low, since that is how my first game went, and I needed to then, make it look like i didn't have a clue and was trying to figure things out.

but really laying low is usually the best thing to do for anyone that needs to be alive to do the most damage, like the mafia or killers, and getting rid of the talkers helps to keep the low layers from being pointed out so it is tough to balance being out there playing the game and not looking like a threat to someone.

[vudu]

Not to be a dick or anything, but you guys weren't that great at laying low or at least not being suspicious. I suspected you vudu, for a long long time.

I didn't say I was laying low.  Just my teammates. 

Plugabugz was easy to spot also because he didn't give a lot of reason to his continual voting for nickmitch, it was a sort of vote and leave situation which was suspicious. NuclearSpeed was also pretty easy to spot, he's played mafia before and just like Insanolord it was clear he was trying to lay low.

Just because you're smarter than everyone else doesn't make you good at mafia.  You might have known both of them were mafia, but they were able to avoid even a hint of danger for the entire game.  That's success in my book!

[Khushrenada]

I know some people don't like huge paragraphs of text, like our champ above me here. But for those that do, I've finished the day 8 story with the climatic struggle between Crazy Redd and Tom Nook. I wanted to give it a big battle since this was probably the main stuggle of the game. Nook vs Redd. Hope you enjoy.

All that's left is the wrap-up of the story.

[NWR_insanolord]

I used to think I was the Detroit Lions of Mafia, but I've come to the conclusion that I am actually the Chicago Cubs of Mafia. I am cursed. You should all hope that I'm never on your team.

[BeautifulShy]

You will do better next time Insanolord.

[Spak-Spang]

I played very amateurish this game. 

I wanted to just roleplay and not worry too much about the game...and so that is what I set out to do. 

I was also afraid people might be gunning to vote me out from causing the reset so I laid low in the end I am glad we had a reset because this is one of the best Mafia games we had. 
 

[Plugabugz]

I voted for nickmitch because thats what i do when all else fails.

That and maxi was the only person to PM me (bar the mafia), so shame on you all.

[Khushrenada]

this is one of the best Mafia games we had. 
 

Well, I'm just glad this "classic" mafia idea worked. Now I can slack off in hosting future mafia games again.

[decoyman]

Insanolord, you got put in a tough position - nobody blames you.

The lame part is that vudu pulled the trigger on me first. I should have killed vudu instead of BFS when I had the chance. ARGH.

Let's blame Pale instead.

[Khushrenada]

Oh man, oh man. DrewMG will be here any minute now. I need to get this place cleaned up. All further Mafia 31 discussion to the Hall of Fame.