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« on: April 02, 2010, 06:19:45 AM »
2 Resumes were found on LinkedIn that have referenced PSP2. the first is from a Game Developer and the second from someone who is a casting assistant, likely for their E3 Conference ad or a TV commercial.

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AtomFire Productions Ltd (AtomFire) is a privately owned company specialising in the development of video games. We create turnkey solutions for publishers creating original concepts and IP, or working with brands such as Delia Smith, Annabel Karmel and Dorling Kindersley. AtomFire's management are a highly experienced team who focus on excellent gameplay, quality of experience and rapid development - providing the best service for our clients. Our aim is to produce fun, profitable games, with high production values and minimum fuss. Our core team has over 40 years experience of developing top-quality interactive entertainment. AtomFire Productions undertakes games and interactive entertainment projects for high-end web, DS and DSi, Wii, PSP, PSP2, PlayStation Network, Xbox LIVE Arcade, WiiWare, iPhone and Windows. You can trust us with your projects.
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Hilke Muslim’s Summary

- styling "Te cuceresc cu cu cadou", Euforia Tv
- styling "Rochie de mireasa", Euforia Tv
- styling "Alegerea Ritei", Euforia Tv
- styling "10"
- styling photoshootings: Bogdan Marcu and Ana Cristina Calin ("Te cuceresc cu un cadou"), Catinca Untaru (actress), Alexandru Plopeanu (model), Talent Works Kids etc.
- styling assistant "Grand Arena"
- casting assistant: Lasa-mi toamna pomii verzi, Claudiu Mirica
- casting assistant: Wildfire, C'mon & Kypski
- casting assistant: Vodafone (afis publicitar)
- casting assistant: Bucharest Fashion Week - kids
- casting assistant: Euforia Tv
- casting assistant: Sony PSP2
- scouter "Talent Works Kids"
- scouter " Alegerea Ritei"
Source: http://ro.linkedin.com/in/hilkee

I was already pretty sure that we would see it at E3 and this only strengthens that feeling. So now it's time to speculate on what it will be and why would we want it.
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2010, 06:29:20 AM »
UMD 2
Prettier graphics
Joystick that doesn't hurt your thumb
Innovative feature like dual screen because Sony is the innovator.

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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2010, 11:31:51 AM »
It better have trophies yo
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2010, 12:11:34 PM »
Who cares? The PSP Go was an abysmal failure, I'm pretty sure Sony has just about completely lost the handheld market. Even if the PSP still sells decently, nobody is actually buying games for it.
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2010, 01:46:11 PM »
Well here are the rumors (for those that care):

  • It will either also be a phone or have a phone version (mentioned by Pres. of Sony/Ericcson)
  • Accelerometers/Gyros inside
  • PowerVR graphics chip (SGX535MPorSGX543) in a multi-core setup (x4 has been mentioned)
  • Capacitive Touch Screen
  • Dual Analog
  • To be revealed at E3 2010 and released this Fall
Here is what was possible, but may not actually be rumors:

  • PSPgo form factor
  • Lots of internal memory (32gb and up)
  • HD resolution (atleast 720p)
  • TVout (likely mini hdmi)
  • Multi-touch screen
  • Wireless N support
  • Dual Screens
  • Blue tooth for sixaxis/ds3 support
And Sony said it's not 3D and they wouldn't be pursuing that anytime soon.

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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2010, 02:27:42 PM »
All of those features would be impressive if the 3DS didn't have 3D support, but since it does the PSP2 is going to look as backwards the next generation as the PSP was in this gen. Maybe even more so.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2010, 02:39:34 PM »
Are you serious with that Chozo?

I really don't want to sound mean, but in a world where those rumored specs are true, and the 3DS doesn't stand up to them in any way, how will the sole fact that it has some sort of 3D tech make up for it?

I love Nintendo's games.  I love them more than any other games.  But I'm sick to death of having to feel like I'm playing them in a time machine.
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2010, 02:52:20 PM »
Well here are the rumors (for those that care):

What's the word on game media?  UMD?  Download-only?  Something else?
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2010, 03:42:02 PM »
Are you serious with that Chozo?

I really don't want to sound mean, but in a world where those rumored specs are true, and the 3DS doesn't stand up to them in any way, how will the sole fact that it has some sort of 3D tech make up for it?

I love Nintendo's games.  I love them more than any other games.  But I'm sick to death of having to feel like I'm playing them in a time machine.

Super duper graphics have never interested me much on handhelds, in fact my favorite games utilized 2D on the DS. If it has GC level capabilities, or even slightly below I'll be fine, though even then I'll worry games will go the way of the PSP where 3D games dominated. The only 3D I'm interested in is to to see the true 3D visuals put out by the 3DS. I'm vastly more excited for a system that is trying something new, then one that is a graphic upgrade with some bells and whistles attached.

Price is also a big factor, you can complain all you want but chances are the 3DS will be vastly cheaper then the new PSP.

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« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2010, 03:44:00 PM »
Are you serious with that Chozo?

I really don't want to sound mean, but in a world where those rumored specs are true, and the 3DS doesn't stand up to them in any way, how will the sole fact that it has some sort of 3D tech make up for it?

I love Nintendo's games.  I love them more than any other games.  But I'm sick to death of having to feel like I'm playing them in a time machine.
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2010, 04:00:11 PM »
Well here are the rumors (for those that care):

What's the word on game media?  UMD?  Download-only?  Something else?

I have no idea. After the failure that was PSPgo, I doubt Sony would go with a DD only PSP2, but with the relative bomb of UMD as a media format, I'm not sure if they would hold onto that just for Backwards Compatibilities sake.

I really don't think Sony would want to invent another new format just for PSP2 since they don't exactly have a good track record with that, but something not as power hungry as UMD yet as durable as Solid State would be a move in the right direction. Maybe reconfiguring the UMD drive to do partial installs and load everything else into RAM so that it's not a power drain would solve the problem, but really, who knows.

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« Reply #11 on: April 02, 2010, 04:10:49 PM »
PSP2 will cut into PS3's sales.
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« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2010, 04:38:31 PM »
PSP2 will cut into PS3's sales.

But they were just starting to pick up.... :(
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Re: PSP2 - It's coming and we know it
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2010, 05:22:45 PM »
Throw all the specs you want at me, but its the battery life I'm wondering about. It is, afterall, a handheld.
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« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2010, 05:36:59 PM »
That will be one power hungry beast if that possible list materializes on the final product.  And it would cost a LOT of money.  Given the PS3's rough start with its behemoth hardware and high price combo, I doubt they will play the same game again, especially when they don't have the advantage of being the market leader straight up like they did with the home console market. 


And Sony said it's not 3D and they wouldn't be pursuing that anytime soon.


I wouldn't believe that for a second.  I'm with chozo on this one.  Sony knows very well that the handheld market doesn't revolve around horsepower and display capabilities.  That was the PSP's trump card.  Yet compared to the DS it didn't do too well.  But here Nintendo announce a system with all the things that made the DS a success (presumably), a good amount of power under the bonnet, 3D display and a cheaper price point.  Sony don't really have a footing to compete with it.  People will see the 3D and forget about the PSP2.

Sure, PSP2 will more than likely be HD, but thats it.  As GP said, it will be nothing more than a portable PS3 and the PSP all over again.  Nintendo's handhelds always differentiated themselves from the consoles.  If the PSP2 is revealed with a 3D screen I will not be surprised at all. 

If the 3G business happens, then it will be a direct competitor to the Iphone. 
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« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2010, 05:49:20 PM »
I suspect Sony will take them middle ground between competing with the DS3 and the iPhone, just like Move takes a sort of middle ground between Natal and Wii.

I'm sure that Sony is already digging through their R&D department for finalized tech in the portable 3D screen department (Samsung has made a majority of Sony's LCD for the past decade or so, so I don't know if Sony has any 3D screens of their own ready to go) and I'm sure Nintendo probably had a lot to do with the push for Sharp to finalize their new screens so their might be a "No Sony" licensing clause somewhere in there, so I'd be interested in seeing what Sony would bring to the table as far as 3D screens and ones that are also touch screens at that.

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« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2010, 05:55:25 PM »
Are you serious with that Chozo?

I really don't want to sound mean, but in a world where those rumored specs are true, and the 3DS doesn't stand up to them in any way, how will the sole fact that it has some sort of 3D tech make up for it?

I love Nintendo's games.  I love them more than any other games.  But I'm sick to death of having to feel like I'm playing them in a time machine.

Because the PSP2 doesn't bring anything new to the table. It has beefed up specs and copies the DS' touch screen. Okay, big deal. But what is it offering that's actually new? Nothing. Miyamoto said that the original PSP offered nothing you couldn't do on existing hardware, and he was absolutely correct. It looks like that will be true of the PSP2 as well.
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« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2010, 05:58:23 PM »
I imagine it will depend on how desperate Sony is.  They may throw a screen in that still requires glasses, and then tout it as being better because you can get the full pop out effect.

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« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2010, 05:58:59 PM »
PSP did everything existing hardware did and added problems.
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« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2010, 06:09:32 PM »
I suspect Sony will take them middle ground between competing with the DS3 and the iPhone, just like Move takes a sort of middle ground between Natal and Wii.


What middle ground is there?  If it's a 3/4G enable game and media player it competes with the Iphone because it is the exact same thing with a Sony logo stamped on the back rather than a half eaten apple.  If it doesn't have 3G then it won't be. 

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« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2010, 06:24:56 PM »
because it's rumored to either be a phone or have a phone version.

which would mean that the PSP2 would be 3G/4G enabled with a touch screen, downloadable app store (most likely <possibly even android based?>), have talk time, contracts, GPS, text/pic messages and e-mail.

and on the DS front, it will have physical games you buy in a store, and be marketed as a game machine with heavy game support from console established franchises.

It will be competing with iPhone as a Powerful Smart Phone and the 3DS as a real capable portable gaming machine. Directly walking the in between and hoping to find success on either if not both sides of the line.
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« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2010, 06:29:51 PM »
The dual screen is probably my favorite feature of DS, seems kind of lame Sony wouldn't consider it for their new system.
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« Reply #22 on: April 02, 2010, 06:31:31 PM »
Ah. Ok.  I'm with you now.  Fair enough.  That would probably be a decent way to go.  But the one problem I see is that if the vast majority of people out there already have one or the other.  Would you buy a machine that you half have already?  Iphone owners already have a phone and won't dare to lose that "I am teh awesome" image that most of them have (disclaimer: not all of them have) as well as all the DL apps that come with it.  And people with the 3DS already have a dedicated games machine with 3D with heavy support. 

Both are quite congested markets individually, throw them both together and you have one hell of task.

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« Reply #23 on: April 02, 2010, 11:12:26 PM »
Super duper graphics have never interested me much on handhelds, in fact my favorite games utilized 2D on the DS. If it has GC level capabilities, or even slightly below I'll be fine, though even then I'll worry games will go the way of the PSP where 3D games dominated. The only 3D I'm interested in is to to see the true 3D visuals put out by the 3DS. I'm vastly more excited for a system that is trying something new, then one that is a graphic upgrade with some bells and whistles attached.
I guess we'll see what happens when the 3ds is final, but doesn't that sound like just graphic upgrade with some bells and whistles?  It's "true" 3d so almost all games will be assured of being the 3d games that dominate the PSP, except now the screen should pop out at you as opposed to your eyes looking for the depth of vision in the screen.

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Price is also a big factor, you can complain all you want but chances are the 3DS will be vastly cheaper then the new PSP.
I'd wait until a final price is quoted.  Nintendo has dropped features (gba port) and increased the price of the ds (from $150 at launch to $190 with XL).  Seems like plans that Sony and Microsoft has used before.  For whatever reason, it seems like none of the big three can ever put together the complete package. 
 
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I wouldn't believe that for a second.  I'm with chozo on this one.  Sony knows very well that the handheld market doesn't revolve around horsepower and display capabilities.  That was the PSP's trump card.  Yet compared to the DS it didn't do too well.  But here Nintendo announce a system with all the things that made the DS a success (presumably), a good amount of power under the bonnet, 3D display and a cheaper price point.  Sony don't really have a footing to compete with it.  People will see the 3D and forget about the PSP2.
The market looks for so many different things that it is hard to pinpoint one specific reason why a product is a market winner and another isn't.  But the PSP did great for an intro console and it's power advantage over the DS certainly helped it compete in the market.  The PSP consistently outsold the DS for it's first year in the American market.  What finally turned the tide in the DS favor was Nintendogs (then Brain Age and unique games like that), release of the DS Lite (which turned the DS sexy, PSP had that title vs. the Phat), and the complete failure of the UMD format with UMD movies being worthless and piracy preventing people from buying UMD discs.  Most of these problems are correctable, will they be?  Who knows, but I believe Sony is a strong brand and compete head to head with Nintendo they've shown it in the console market.

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Sure, PSP2 will more than likely be HD, but thats it.  As GP said, it will be nothing more than a portable PS3 and the PSP all over again.  Nintendo's handhelds always differentiated themselves from the consoles.  If the PSP2 is revealed with a 3D screen I will not be surprised at all.
How have Nintendo's handhelds always differentiated themselves?  GB was NES on B&W screen, GBC was NES, GBA was SNES (Half the Nintendo titles were even SNES ports).  DS was the first one that offered a unique experience with the touch screen.   


 
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I guess we'll see what happens when the 3ds is final, but doesn't that   sound like just graphic upgrade with some bells and whistles?  It's   "true" 3d so almost all games will be assured of being the 3d games that   dominate the PSP, except now the screen should pop out at you as   opposed to your eyes looking for the depth of vision in the screen.

Not really because the 3D has potential to be used in ways to push gaming design in unique ways, like the touch screen or the dual screen had.
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