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Wii Virtual Console Titles Not Playable on GamePad
« on: September 13, 2012, 06:26:23 PM »

The Wii U is to Wii as Wii was to GameCube.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/31715

Wii, WiiWare, and Virtual Console games will be supported on Wii U much the same way that GameCube titles were supported on Wii, without any special features or GamePad support.

In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch, and would require both systems to be present and an SD card. The transfer process works much in the same way the DSi to 3DS process works today.

We will post the full transcript of the interview later this evening.

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Re: Wii Virtual Console Titles Not Playable on GamePad
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2012, 06:32:56 PM »
This is a real let down. I mean it would have so awesome to have the ability to paly these games on the Gamepad. However, if Nintendo re-releases Virtual Console and Wiiware with upgraded vissuals then  can see them retooling the code to work on the Gamepad. This would all be done to spur more sales.
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« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2012, 06:34:14 PM »
I really hope this particular representative was smoking crack here.

If the system has to be in "wii mode" for Virtual Console that, to me, is like them admitting that it's a legacy service that won't be maintained. How on earth can I buy more games if this is the case.

I'm so disgusted. I was hyped for the system and I preordered, but if this is true, I may cancel and see how crap plays out. So upsetting.
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« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2012, 06:35:20 PM »
damn, was really looking forward to playing some VC when the TV is in use.

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Re: Wii Virtual Console Titles Not Playable on GamePad
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2012, 06:37:56 PM »
I see no reason other than laziness or incompetance to justify such a decision.  Both the Gamepad and the Wii U classic controlller should be able to play these games.

I suppose this rep might not understand the question.  I certainly don't expect any specific Gamepad features to be implemented here and he might assume that instead of just how we would expect the buttons to be mapped.

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« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2012, 06:40:31 PM »
Watch. While all the games we already bought can't be played on the Game Pad, we will be welcome to purchase the "Wii U Virtual Console" version and play those on the tablet....

Seriously though, this is so crazy that I really hope the representative fed us bad info, but we report it like we're told!
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« Reply #6 on: September 13, 2012, 07:06:44 PM »
This sounds consistent with how DS cartridge games and DSiWare games work on the 3DS.   Both work in DS mode.
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« Reply #7 on: September 13, 2012, 07:13:15 PM »
These does not make me happy.  I must be a lucky one in that I only bought 4 VC games and no Wiiware stuff.  I think I still have some Wii points on my account.  I think I'll hold off on those, though I hope they don't decide to not allow those to be transferred.  They already got my money.

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« Reply #8 on: September 13, 2012, 07:18:32 PM »
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« Reply #9 on: September 13, 2012, 07:29:52 PM »
While I am not surprised by this, there still is no excuse for that.

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Re: Wii Virtual Console Titles Not Playable on GamePad
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2012, 07:33:15 PM »
Nintendo's taking the lazy way out with supporting a feature we actually care about. Shocking.  ::)

I really do hope that this doesn't mean Nintendo's abandoning the VC with Wii U, just supporting the games already released. I'd really like to see certain GameCube games on the service, since titles like the Baten Kaitos series and Skies of Arcadia Legends got SO overlooked (yes, Skies is popular, but it didn't sell well) in their day.
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« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2012, 07:36:24 PM »
Yikes. I'm hoping that VC games at least get patched to stream to the GamePad. Considering how bad those old games look blown up on HDTVs, I'd much rather play them on the GamePad. Plus, GamePad streaming is awesome and a major selling point.

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« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2012, 07:41:06 PM »
It just boggles my mind that these things don't automatically come to Nintendo. How could they not realize that we all want to stream our VC and WiiWare games to the GamePad?

Absurd.


And you're right, Adrock. It IS a major selling point. Sheesh! >_<
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« Reply #13 on: September 13, 2012, 07:41:29 PM »
There is no excuse for this. None.

Nintendo, you have failed us again.

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Re: Wii Virtual Console Titles Not Playable on GamePad
« Reply #14 on: September 13, 2012, 07:46:52 PM »
I completely understand this with the Wiiware games and Wii games...but my understanding was the Virtual Console games were games written with the emulators built into the game.  I thought it was programmed in such a manner to help games transfer from system to system.


If Nintendo can't get at least previous virtual console games to be playable one the Wii U game pad then that is a HUGE loss...and very disappointing. 


I agree an update or upgraded patch to get it to work would be amazing...but really when you transfer your Wii VC games that patch or update should already be available and it should work as advertised in promotional videos from the start.




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« Reply #15 on: September 13, 2012, 07:57:03 PM »
It just boggles my mind that these things don't automatically come to Nintendo.

You know how someone is a visionaire because they see things that no one else does?  Nintendo has that but it seems to come with the inability to see things that everyone else does.  Maybe they owe their success to a pact with Satan and this is the ironic curse part of it the devil threw in to **** with them.

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« Reply #16 on: September 13, 2012, 07:59:24 PM »
Ehh. Unless they announce online play for Virtual Console games, I can care less. May as well keep the games on my Wii seeing as I need both systems on hand to transfer them anyway.
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« Reply #17 on: September 13, 2012, 08:00:07 PM »
This is crazy!  VC games are in Wii emulation mode?  It's so shocking it's just got to be not true.  (Unless they are abandoning the service)

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« Reply #18 on: September 13, 2012, 09:12:14 PM »
This seriously is bullshit, I hope it gets clarified and the uproar from internets causes Nintendo to change this. I see Wiiware and Wii games being a hassle to reprogram for wiigamepad but the vc games should be easy as pie to do.

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« Reply #19 on: September 13, 2012, 09:12:40 PM »
This is crazy!  VC games are in Wii emulation mode?  It's so shocking it's just got to be not true.  (Unless they are abandoning the service)

It also makes me afraid for the emulation quality...will it be as good as it was on the Wii?   

Also, will we be able to purchase VC on day one?   I know eshop will be up and running, but they didn't mention VC.
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« Reply #20 on: September 13, 2012, 09:22:04 PM »
this is lazy pure and simple. and tells me that the VC is fixing to be a fractured service forever now. when it should be unified. you shouldn't transfer over the Wii executables for the emulators, you should transfer your liscense and download new files.

This is like having to stop my computer, boot into dos off a disk every time I wanted to run ipconfig.

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« Reply #21 on: September 13, 2012, 09:44:32 PM »
"In an interview with Nintendo of America, they stated that the Virtual Console transfer process was not confirmed to be available at launch..."

Is that a typo? I thought it WAS confirmed for launch...

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« Reply #22 on: September 13, 2012, 10:09:55 PM »
Watch. While all the games we already bought can't be played on the Game Pad, we will be welcome to purchase the "Wii U Virtual Console" version and play those on the tablet....

Seriously though, this is so crazy that I really hope the representative fed us bad info, but we report it like we're told!

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« Reply #23 on: September 13, 2012, 10:28:59 PM »
Wow. People are really upset, huh? I agree that it sucks if we can't play transferred VC games on the tablet, but don't see how that news is surprising.


It makes a lot of sense that transferred games would play in Wii-compatibility mode instead of being completely converted to Wii U versions. Each VC game you buy has the full emulator code included in the download, and those emulators are designed and tested to work with Wii. When you transfer games over, how do you think they will be magically updated to work with Wii U?


Hopefully people will be given the chance to upgrade their existing VC games to improved Wii U versions at no cost some day... but I wouldn't hold my breath. You purchased a Wii Virtual Console game, and now you own a Wii Virtual Console game. End of story. Dumb decision by Nintendo? Sure... but I can't see the cost of having every existing Virtual Console game updated to Wii U versions and QA approved by launch making any sense from a business perspective, even if I would kill to have my VC games playable on the tablet. Frankly I'm glad we are given the option to transfer at all, since there was some serious doubt about that initially.


The interesting question to me is what Nintendo will do when Wii U Virtual Console starts rolling and they re-release the same old games. Will they be treated as something completely separate from the Wii version, and people will have to re-buy to take advantage of the new features? Will both versions continue to exist and be available for purchase? Will the new one replace the older version, and if so what happens to people who still own Wii consoles and want to re-download an old game? I have my guesses (all based on what makes the most business sense for Nintendo) but will wait and see how things play out.
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« Reply #24 on: September 13, 2012, 10:42:03 PM »
This doesn't seem worth the RAGE.