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Title: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: tylerohlew on December 02, 2012, 11:29:59 AM

Without an SD card slot, transferring saves is impossible on the Wii Mini.

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/news/32673

The Wii Mini will not support SD cards, Nintendo of Canada has confirmed to us.

Without an SD card slot, the Wii Mini is incapable of importing or exporting saves. It was known that the Wii Mini would not be able to take part in the Wii U transfer process due to its lack of internet functionality, but now we know you cannot transfer saves by swapping SD cards with its successor. On a standard Wii, players could copy and move save files and downloaded software between system memory and the inserted SD card.

Nintendo of Canada's Matt Ryan also detailed the difference between the Wii Mini and Wii U markets this holiday season, "... they are two very different products for a different type of player. It really depends on the experience that players want and their preferred investment in their gaming console. If a player just wants to play Wii games, Wii mini is a great choice at a great price. If the player wants more from their system, Wii U is the latest innovation of fun from Nintendo."

The Wii Mini is Nintendo's recent redesign of the Wii console that has no internet functionality or GameCube compatibility. It will be available on Canadian store shelves December 7, and will retail for $99.99.

Title: Re: Thrii Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Soren on December 02, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
This continues to baffle me. Who exactly is going to want this thing? With so many feature taken out it feels overpriced at $99.
Title: Re: Thrii Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: leahsdad on December 02, 2012, 12:07:14 PM
This continues to baffle me. Who exactly is going to want this thing? With so many feature taken out it feels overpriced at $99.

Most definitely participating in the PSP GO school of design here.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2012, 12:10:56 PM
More like the PSP NO school of design.

No Netflix, no Wii Shop & no game save transfers.

What is even the point? who's idea was this?




A proper redesign would have used a top load disc drive, pre-installed Netflix, Hulu & Youtube channels.
Maybe remove the web browser, but keep the eShop. Remove all traces of GC BC but definitely keep the wifi and SD card slot. Also bump the internal usable memory to 4GB to encourage eshop usage.
Title: Re: Thrii Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Rodrigue on December 02, 2012, 12:44:51 PM
Yeah, without Internet functionality it was already iffy, but with no way to transfer data there's no way a hundred bucks is a good price for this, as attractive as the premise is.
Title: Re: Thrii Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on December 02, 2012, 12:48:01 PM
You guys are really missing the point. Nintendo designed this to increase their profit margin for legacy Wii sales, not just now but for years to come. The people who will consider buying a Wii at this point don't care about the features being removed. Omitting components gives Nintendo flexibility to eventually lower the price even further to continue squeezing out sales from a very old platform. This tradition goes back to the mid-90s with the redesigns of NES, SNES, and even Genesis.


The fact that Wii Mini looks so much different is actually a nice bonus for hardcore collectors.
Title: Re: Thrii Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ShyGuy on December 02, 2012, 12:56:05 PM
They should eliminate internal memory too. This market doesn't care about saving their games!

But seriously, they better tweak the start screen. It will look awkward with a bunch of empty squares on the menu.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 02, 2012, 12:58:26 PM
I would think the best way to go would be something akin to the GameCube startup, where it goes straight into the game unless you hold down a button to bring up a simple menu for settings.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2012, 01:01:45 PM
Wii was very popular for Netflix usage.@ $99 this would've made a perfect game playing netflix player for the spare TV and kids rooms.

Wifi should have stayed in just for that alone.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Pale on December 02, 2012, 01:31:01 PM
If they didn't remove GameCube support, this would be the cheapest way by far to play GameCube games in progressive scan. Thankfully my old Wii is still holding on for that though I worry it will break.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Shaymin on December 02, 2012, 01:37:02 PM
Wii was very popular for Netflix usage.@ $99 this would've made a perfect game playing netflix player for the spare TV and kids rooms.

Wifi should have stayed in just for that alone.

Not if they're going to sell it in 3rd world countries or places where the internet may as well be that of a 3rd world country. Like CANADA.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2012, 01:54:28 PM
for use in markets outside of EUR, USA & JPN, I guess what their doing makes sense.

Competing with the knock offs at affordable prices should go over will in places like Korea I guess.
Should be cheaper for what they are removing though. ($59.99)
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: NeoThunder on December 02, 2012, 02:18:18 PM
Theyshould have it come with a game boy advance micro, so you have 2 worthless stripped down consoles
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: NeoThunder on December 02, 2012, 02:20:09 PM
If this had GC support but still no Internet, this would have been a buy for me
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: tylerohlew on December 02, 2012, 03:32:46 PM
Theyshould have it come with a game boy advance micro, so you have 2 worthless stripped down consoles

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back! GBA Micro was awesome, despite being unable to play GB/GBC games. Plus, it had a headphone input jack, so it had that over the GBA SP.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on December 02, 2012, 03:50:23 PM
Pale, you can get a GameCube for much less than $99, and it fully supports progressive scan. Not all games use it, but Wii can only run those same select titles in 480p.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Retro Deckades on December 02, 2012, 03:50:34 PM
Theyshould have it come with a game boy advance micro, so you have 2 worthless stripped down consoles

Whoa, whoa, whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back! GBA Micro was awesome, despite being unable to play GB/GBC games. Plus, it had a headphone input jack, so it had that over the GBA SP.


I'll champion this sentiment as well! Prior to picking up a Micro, I thought that it was pretty useless. Afterall, no backwards compatibility AND a smaller screen? However, the reality is that it is damn sleek. A great design and hella portable.


Unfortunately, I can't really say the same for the Wii Mini. Someone like me has absolutely no use for this thing. The lack of Wifi limits many games and applications (no Netflix OR Wii Shop), and the removal of the SD card slot defeated my interest in this as a homebrew running Wii.


Funnily enough, it's an example of Nintendo's "This only plays games" mandate. It'll be interesting to see who still has an interest in that. That being said, this will likely be a collector's item because it may not sell all that well.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: UncleBob on December 02, 2012, 03:53:03 PM
Pale, you can get a GameCube for much less than $99, and it fully supports progressive scan. Not all games use it, but Wii can only run those same select titles in 480p.

True - but the cables will run you $50+ alone last time I checked.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: funguy11 on December 02, 2012, 05:02:09 PM
Releasing a new version of an old system with less function and features just to make it slimmer? Who are they, Apple? Who is going to want a new Wii of any kind with the Wii U now out?
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Oblivion on December 02, 2012, 05:25:11 PM
Apple doesn't rerelease products with less features to make them slimmer. Thats Sony.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 02, 2012, 05:55:39 PM
Apple doesn't rerelease products with less features to make them slimmer. Thats Sony.

Um, the iPod shuffle says Hi.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: NeoThunder on December 02, 2012, 06:03:19 PM
iPod nano doesn't wanna be left out too
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ThePerm on December 02, 2012, 06:46:18 PM
 No way to access the internet? No SD card support. I thought it Had no disc drive?

Does this thing play games?

Edit: Oh its got a clamshell drive....
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Retro Deckades on December 02, 2012, 07:33:07 PM
Does it have a USB slot?
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: funguy11 on December 02, 2012, 08:09:02 PM
Apple doesn't rerelease products with less features to make them slimmer. Thats Sony.

Um, the iPod shuffle says Hi.
What about the newest Macbook Pro and iMac models that remove the optical drive?
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 02, 2012, 09:10:42 PM
Regarding the Macs, to be fair Apple has been gradually moving away from optical media and going digital only. Hell, a lot of PC manufactures are going digital only and are treating optical drives as a USB peripheral.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 02, 2012, 09:36:34 PM
Apple is just about the only manufacture I have seen be stupid enought to remove the optical drive (other than in net books). There is no benefit to the consumers (and don't say cost, because Apple already overcharges for products, and they just keep the savings for themselves).
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: lolmonade on December 02, 2012, 10:50:42 PM
Apple is just about the only manufacture I have seen be stupid enought to remove the optical drive (other than in net books). There is no benefit to the consumers (and don't say cost, because Apple already overcharges for products, and they just keep the savings for themselves).

I don't know, I can see an argument being made for why something like the Macbook Air may be better suited than a Pro for some people if they preferred something lighter and more portable than the Pro. 

And I'm not sure if "stupid" is an appropriate word to describe Apple.  You may be able to make that argument for some of their rabid fan base though :D .
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 02, 2012, 11:04:32 PM
I can't remember the last time I used the optical drive on my MacBook Pro. Been thinking about taking it out and putting a second hard drive or SSD in the slot instead. I'd have no problem buying a new one that didn't have one.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 02, 2012, 11:34:09 PM
I never use my disc drive either.

And UncleBob will probably get like 4 of these things.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: yoshi1001 on December 03, 2012, 12:05:31 AM
You guys are really missing the point. Nintendo designed this to increase their profit margin for legacy Wii sales, not just now but for years to come. The people who will consider buying a Wii at this point don't care about the features being removed. Omitting components gives Nintendo flexibility to eventually lower the price even further to continue squeezing out sales from a very old platform. This tradition goes back to the mid-90s with the redesigns of NES, SNES, and even Genesis.


Perhaps, but I don't think either the NES or SNES redesigns took as much away functionally as this redesign. Is there a market for it? Probably, but at the moment it doesn't seem like that much of a plus.


By the way, does anyone know how much smaller it is? I've seen the pictures, but nothing side-by-side (might have to wait until it releases). The Wii's pretty small to begin with, so I'm not sure how "Mini" this will be.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ShyGuy on December 03, 2012, 12:33:53 AM
If they didn't remove GameCube support, this would be the cheapest way by far to play GameCube games in progressive scan. Thankfully my old Wii is still holding on for that though I worry it will break.

Re-purchase your Gamecube games off the future Wii U virtual console and you could get them upscaled to 1080p!
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: UncleBob on December 03, 2012, 01:01:15 AM
And UncleBob will probably get like 4 of these things.

Just one... maybe. :D

It *is* pretty awesome looking.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Crimm on December 03, 2012, 01:53:25 AM
And UncleBob will probably get like 4 of these things.

Just one... maybe. :D

It *is* pretty awesome looking.


You say that until they come in blue.
and all black
and Mario Edition
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: KlingonCola on December 03, 2012, 12:19:19 PM
What about through USB port? Can you connect external (SD) device?
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: eggwolio on December 03, 2012, 12:58:29 PM
No one has mentioned the biggest problem with having no SD slot.


How can ExciteTruck be properly appreciated without the custom soundtrack feature?
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Mop it up on December 03, 2012, 05:40:41 PM
What about through USB port? Can you connect external (SD) device?
It probably doesn't have USB ports either.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: EasyCure on December 03, 2012, 08:50:37 PM
No one has mentioned the biggest problem with having no SD slot.


How can ExciteTruck be properly appreciated without the custom soundtrack feature?

I actually thought of that but wasn't one of the first firmware updates for Wii one that prevented the custom soundtrack feature anyway? I haven't played the game in awhile so I can't confirm it myself.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Shaymin on December 03, 2012, 08:56:35 PM
The update took it out of the Photo Channel, but Excite Truck still reads .mp3 files.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: EasyCure on December 03, 2012, 08:57:34 PM
The update took it out of the Photo Channel, but Excite Truck still reads .mp3 files.

Oh thank goodness. I should load that up one soon. Too bad they didn't implement the feature in Excitebots..
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Mop it up on December 03, 2012, 08:59:31 PM
The MP3 playback is coded into the games themselves, it isn't a system feature, so it still works in Excite Truck and Endless Ocean. Which, sadly, I believe are the only two games to support it. I liked the feature and hoped it would return on the Wii U, but it would appear that Nintendo don't want to pay the licencing fees anymore.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ejamer on December 03, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
While talking about SD card functionality, you also lose the ability to take photos in Animal Crossing. Not a big deal, but something I actually used on several different occasions.


Custom soundtracks were awesome on Endless Ocean. I liked listening to Pink Floyd's Echoes while diving.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ejamer on December 04, 2012, 09:07:26 AM
Single USB port confirmed on the back of the Wii Mini.
Source:  http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/18651.html (http://www.gamefocus.ca/news/18651.html)


Unclear what USB devices will/won't work.  I'm guessing that a USB network connection won't work (supporting hardware likely removed) and that USB SD card adapters won't be of any use either.


Looks interesting, but I just can't justify the asking price. If I could grab a system for about $70 then I'd nab one.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Adrock on December 04, 2012, 09:15:23 AM
Maybe USB is how Nintendo will allow you to transfer save data from the Wii Minus to the Wii U in the future. Since there's no Virtual Console or Wii Ware DRM and whatnot to worry about, transferring data can perhaps be handled this way.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: ejamer on December 04, 2012, 12:22:37 PM
Maybe USB is how Nintendo will allow you to transfer save data from the Wii Minus to the Wii U in the future. Since there's no Virtual Console or Wii Ware DRM and whatnot to worry about, transferring data can perhaps be handled this way.


Maybe. But I suspect that Nintendo will just forgo data transfer of legacy game save files from this console entirely. How many people are going to notice? How many people are going to care? In both instances I'm willing to bet the number won't be significant.


There will be no digital purchases to worry about, no licenses to transfer to a new machine. If the Wii Mini console is targeted at people who are just buying a console now, then finding a way to copy save files to a brand new (expensive) console is an extremely low priority that probably won't be profitable.
Title: Re: Wii Mini Has No SD Card Slot
Post by: Ian Sane on December 04, 2012, 12:29:56 PM
I can't help but feel that this is a lousy product for suckers.  With the Wii U being backwards compatible with the Wii, one really doesn't save money in the long run in buying a Wii stripped of features.  Yeah Nintendo released later versions of the NES and SNES but they were fully functional, the next gen did not play those same games and Nintendo continued to release a few new games for those systems after the next gen started while they didn't even make Wii games for the entire life of the Wii.  There are no new Wii games to play and you do not require an actual Wii to play Wii games.  I fear that part of the design here is to grab some impulse buys from late adopters who do not know that the Wii Mini is missing core functionality.  It isn't much of a deal if you know what's been stripped out.