Post by: Athrun Zala on December 28, 2007, 10:06:58 AM
anyways, not entirely sure this is new, but I haven't seen it before... looks pretty interesting to say the least... loving how it's looking and all... not entirely sure what's happening though... perhaps someone more knowledgeable in Japaneses can translate it? (Bill?/Ty?)
anyways, the trailer is here
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 28, 2007, 12:35:29 PM
IS NAMCO EVEN TRYING ANYMORE?
ARE THEY BITTER OVER FRAME CITY KILLER?
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 28, 2007, 02:15:30 PM
Please?
Post by: Caliban on December 28, 2007, 02:57:44 PM
Post by: Crimm on December 28, 2007, 04:00:08 PM
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Originally posted by: Caliban
I don't think I'm picking up this game, I didn't even finish Tales of Symphonia.
I didn't either...the 6th time.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on December 28, 2007, 05:25:27 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
Lloyd and Colette make me happy, and the new characters fit in quite well...All we need now is for Namco to localize it...
Please?
I bet they will do it considering Wii's high user base in America and Namco Bandai's trend of pumping out a lot of Tales games recently.
Post by: Kairon on December 29, 2007, 04:02:12 AM
Does anyone else see this game as a major test-of-the-waters for the Wii's ability to sell traditional PS2-like software in Japan and elsewhere?
Post by: darknight06 on December 29, 2007, 05:33:54 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2007, 07:36:26 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 29, 2007, 07:53:27 AM
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Originally posted by: darknight06
What happened to the cel-shaded painted look of the first game? I hope the game isn't that far along, because if it is this looks quite disappointing compared to the original.
Got bumped for the Tales of the Abyss look...which is actually a lot sharper looking than the blurry cel-shading of Symphonia...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2007, 08:03:37 AM
LOW REZ ANIMU HEAVEN
Post by: Mario on December 29, 2007, 11:04:41 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 29, 2007, 02:15:23 PM
Post by: Mario on December 29, 2007, 02:30:16 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on December 29, 2007, 05:32:37 PM
Quotebecause it's DA SEQUAL, Lloyd is (apparently) evil, everyone else seems to come back as well, and it appears to be using a variation of Abyss battle mode, which is, as far as I could tell of my short Abyss playtime, slightly superior to Symphonia's...
Originally posted by: Mario
Why should I buy this when I can just play Symphonia
regarding how it looks, I actually like it... seems very pastel-painting-esqe to me, which I find oddly fitting...
hope it does't take more than a year to localize, as, you know, every Tales ever ;_;
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 29, 2007, 05:44:56 PM
Yankee Wii came out 2007. Yankee Symphonia Rehash-Remix X-EO is coming out 2010 at the soonest. This game is a complete disaster Namco started a year late cuz Namco was supposed to be busy working on real next-generation games for real next-generation systems.
Just in time before a meteor hits the earth in 2012.
Post by: Bill Aurion on December 30, 2007, 06:45:37 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Lloyd is (apparently) evil
Looks more like Lloyd is training the two new heroes to me...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2007, 07:05:54 AM
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Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Lloyd is (apparently) emo
oh
Post by: Kairon on December 30, 2007, 09:06:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Lloyd is (apparently) evil
Looks more like Lloyd is training the two new heroes to me...
Looks to me like he's trying to stop them from making a world-destroying mistake.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2007, 10:32:04 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on January 02, 2008, 12:21:13 PM
Quoteinteresting... just letting you know that apparently Tales of Vesperia is going to be released on X360, rumours say it may even be an exclusive (trainwreck CONFIRMED)
Originally posted by: Professional 666
Yankee GameCube came out 2001. Yankee Symphonia came out 2004.
Yankee Wii came out 2007. Yankee Symphonia Rehash-Remix X-EO is coming out 2010 at the soonest. This game is a complete disaster Namco started a year late cuz Namco was supposed to be busy working on real next-generation games for real next-generation systems.
Just in time before a meteor hits the earth in 2012.
in any case, I just found out that ToS was released in august 2003 in Japan, and July 2004 in the US, so maybe we'll see KoR in 2009
Quotemaybe, I'd rather having him evil though... would be really interesting (as it would be an upgrade for him... not being a mindless idiot anymore...)
Originally posted by: Bill AurionQuote
Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Lloyd is (apparently) evil
Looks more like Lloyd is training the two new heroes to me...
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Originally posted by: Professional 666Quote
Originally posted by: Athrun Zala
Lloyd is (apparently) emo
oh
now we know what his secret title/costume will be!
Quotewin.
Originally posted by: Professional 666
Like having kids.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 02, 2008, 01:20:18 PM
If Tales of Venereal Disease really is coming to 360, it'll be around 2011 soonest, stateside. Or not at all considering 360 is just a disaster in Japan, therefore Namco could go bankrupt before the game even releases.
Post by: Athrun Zala on January 02, 2008, 04:17:57 PM
Post by: silverwings07 on January 07, 2008, 12:39:17 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 07, 2008, 12:58:08 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on January 07, 2008, 02:53:33 AM
Quoteyep... and Kratos' return thus far is unconfirmed, everyone else seems to be back though...
Originally posted by: silverwings07
Which "ending" does the sequel take after? I'm going to assume it's not Kratos' ending, since it seems that Zelos is alive and well.
more words but the same pretty pictures...
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 07, 2008, 01:33:55 AM
In any case, US version is apparently confirmed, as it's the new NP cover, with the subtitle "Dawn of the New World"
pic
Post by: decoyman on February 07, 2008, 02:04:42 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 07, 2008, 03:11:02 AM
Post by: nitsu niflheim on February 07, 2008, 03:12:43 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 07, 2008, 07:23:20 AM
1. I'm tired of the same old angsty RPG tale of teenage woe seemingly written by 14 year olds for 14 year olds.
2. I don't like pseudo-realtime RPG battle systems that take the worst elements of real-time and turn-based systems and mix them together.
But Namco will likely interpret my lost sale as "Wii owners don't like RPGs" or will take it a step further and interpret it as "Wii owners don't like third party games that aren't crappy". Why am I in this situation again where I'm afraid to not buy any third party game that is probably good in the eyes of most but just personally doesn't appeal to me? I seem to recall that sort of thing being associated with failing consoles and not with market leading ones.
It's good for those that do like ToS though and it is a real "gamer game" from a third party for the Wii. That's a great thing. I hope it sells enough for my non-purchase to have no effect.
Post by: Kairon on February 07, 2008, 07:27:43 AM
Post by: wandering on February 07, 2008, 07:40:19 AM
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I hope it sells enough for my non-purchase to have no effect.
"Sir, Knight of Ratatosk has only sold ten copies."
"Ten copies? How disappointing. If only it had sold eleven copies we would have been able to continue supporting the Wii. The only way I'd authorize continued Wii development now is if the one voice of reason in the Nintendo community - the one critic I truly respect - approved of Knight of Ratatosk. His praise would be enough to satisfy me. Tell me, what does Ian Sane think of the game?"
"He thinks it looks terrible."
"That's it! Move all Wii projects over to the PS3."
Post by: Kairon on February 07, 2008, 07:44:37 AM
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Originally posted by: wandering
The only way I'd authorize another Wii project now is if the one voice of reason in the Nintendo community - the one critic I truly respect - approved of Knight of Ratatosk. His praise would be enough to satisfy me. Tell me, what does Ian Sane think of the game?"
Bu,...bu...bu... WHY IANSANE?!?!?! Why not ME?!?! I love thirdparties!!! Why don't they love me back?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2008, 08:04:46 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 07, 2008, 08:49:13 AM
Well thatwasn't quite what I meant.
Remember on the Cube how every time anything even remotely decent that was made by a third party came out that people here would consider buying it because they wanted it to sell well enough to attract third party support? It's not like buying games you have no interest in but rather just being a little more flexible on games that you feel you COULD like. I'd like this game to sell in such a way that anyone sitting on the fence or who just isn't interested can not buy the game and the sales will still be high enough that it doesn't matter. I want us to not pay much attention to individual game sales anymore because we just know that most of the decent games, even if they're niche, will meet the publisher's sales expectations and thus future support is a given.
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 07, 2008, 09:13:32 AM
Wait, what? =(
The Tales battle system is the BEST and pretty much ONLY way to have the party system work in a non-turn-based RPG!
Post by: Gylldas on February 07, 2008, 10:38:54 AM
Glad to see confirmation of this being localized. I don't know why but Symphonia charmed me and I'll definitely be picking this up. My only concern is to see how the monster party system works out.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 07, 2008, 11:17:21 AM
The funny thing is I agree with you. It is the best and only way to do that. The problem is I still think it sucks. I'd argue that having a party system in a non-turn-based RPG is a flawed concept in general.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 07, 2008, 11:49:24 AM
Post by: oohhboy on February 07, 2008, 12:00:35 PM
Ian take that back. The AI in TOS made a real time system work. The ability to change tactics with a push of the D-pad was inspired, along with the flexibility as to how your AIs were setup.
Wait, why am I arguing with Ian. It's like talking to a brick wall. >(
Post by: KDR_11k on February 08, 2008, 12:41:35 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 08, 2008, 10:38:21 AM
- Planned as a spin-off, later decided to expand the scale and make it a direct story sequel
- Project started summer of 06, before Wii was known to be the "casual" system.
- Nintendo specifically asked them to gear the game for a hardcore audience
- Monster system implemented to make the game more enjoyable for casual audience without watering down the full Tales experience; catering to hardcore Tales fans first and foremost - no changes made after the "casual" perception of the Wii became apparent.
- Light use of the Wii remote, activating shortcuts without watering down the Tales experience: pointing at what you want to shoot with the Sorcerer's Ring; click and drag the world map and select destination with the pointer.
- Might be looking at adding more motion-control features to the NA release (no comment)
- Monster capturing system intended to be strategic (certain monsters are more useful in certain situations) and a collect-a-thon. Difficult to collect all monsters the first time through the game, though.
- Monsters recruitment is determined by the element of the battlefield compared to the element of the monster, and influenced by the monster from your party you use to sway them.
- Affection system present in the monster attraction aspect, no story changes as there were with the original game. Optional side quests available.
- Cooking system returns, but now the Wonder Chef teaches you recipies for monster food, which will change your monster parameters or aid their evolution.
- Whenever Emil and friends find a new spirit, Lloyd is there trying to stop them...
- Of the 8 surviving characters, all are playable at some point in the game - Zelos in, Kratos out (but he's the narrator of the intro). Emil and Marta are the only permanent human characters, the rest of the party of 4 is made up of monsters and guest appearances.
- About half of the locations and dungeons are rehashed from the original game (though quite a bit different due to changes in the world).
- 11 hours of voiced event scenes and character skits. Event scenes feature realistically proportioned characters, cinematic camera angles and motion-captured character animation. "Prospects looking good for fully voiced skits and perhaps even actual theme-song vocals in the game's North American version."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 08, 2008, 11:22:28 AM
Post by: Gylldas on February 08, 2008, 12:14:03 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 08, 2008, 12:30:05 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on February 08, 2008, 11:36:50 PM
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 15, 2008, 06:51:16 AM
It's being released in Japan this April, which makes a late 08/early 09 NA release very likely!
anyways, will try to keep this post updated with info and such.
EDIT: why the topic title change evan? :/
Post by: Svevan on February 15, 2008, 06:59:00 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 15, 2008, 07:07:31 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 15, 2008, 07:09:32 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 15, 2008, 07:22:49 AM
Post by: IceCold on February 15, 2008, 09:48:54 AM
uniformity is boring, and not having unique titles takes away some personality and makes me depressed :(I agree with this.
Post by: Kairon on February 15, 2008, 09:54:58 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 15, 2008, 10:06:54 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 15, 2008, 06:25:55 PM
two new characters revealed (Deks (?) and Aris) and Richter looks quite a bit like someone else...
Late 2008 is too late...I want it at LEAST by the end of Summer! =(sadly, you KNOW it won't happen Bill :/
can this thread be merged with the other ToS KoR thread?
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 25, 2008, 03:52:58 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 25, 2008, 04:42:42 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 25, 2008, 04:59:45 AM
He's Kratos' kid brother, and Emil + Marta's dad.Pro how do you know this?
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 25, 2008, 05:07:28 AM
...do you think that Kratos will play a role in the story?
He's the intro narrator, from what the information I've read...I doubt he'll have any active part in the story...
He's Kratos' kid brother, and Emil + Marta's dad.Pro how do you know this?
Don't fall into Pro's traps anymore... =)
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 25, 2008, 03:53:49 AM
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 26, 2008, 11:05:14 PM
yay! :D
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 27, 2008, 03:16:38 AM
MARK YOUR CALNDURS WITH ``DELAY``
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2008, 07:33:33 AM
Post by: decoyman on February 27, 2008, 07:54:45 AM
Saw the trailer - cheesy music aside, I thought it looked really cool... plus, the fact that you, as Emil, think that Lloyd Irving killed your parents or whatever, and are out for revenge, is pretty cool for the storyline.
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2008, 12:21:31 PM
You just don't know Pro, Maxi. You'll get used to him after awhile, and even come to appreciate his "O NOES"-esque comments! :D
Saw the trailer - cheesy music aside, I thought it looked really cool... plus, the fact that you, as Emil, think that Lloyd Irving killed your parents or whatever, and are out for revenge, is pretty cool for the storyline.
You just don't know Pro, Maxi. You'll get used to him after awhile, and even come to appreciate his "O NOES"-esque comments! :DI remember that near the end of the first game that there was a person that you meet during Alfried's side quest in Asgard that tells your group that you destroyed his family.[/spoilers]
Saw the trailer - cheesy music aside, I thought it looked really cool... plus, the fact that you, as Emil, think that Lloyd Irving killed your parents or whatever, and are out for revenge, is pretty cool for the storyline.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 27, 2008, 02:19:21 PM
Lloyd was a reckless brat who got into trouble trying to save everyone and their dog instead of focusing on what's important lusting for Raine. Lloyd killed many innocents.
The new story has a nice twist since there's a more definitive object of smoldering rage. I expect a "bad ending" option. And I hope for interesting cameo bosses.
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2008, 07:06:02 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 27, 2008, 07:40:14 PM
The PS2 Symphonia received an extra Kratos+Yuan+Mithos hidden boss, and I want to see a similar boss-team included.
A difficult tiny-boss like Abyssion would be welcomed, but a difficult big-monster should be included as well. And a cash-cow enemy like the mine dragon should be a no-brainer.
A boss-team like Sylph, that was actually coordinated, would make good eye-candy.
But since the new aspect is animal-collecting, there will probably be brand-new animal-spirit bosses to surprise us.
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2008, 10:12:18 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 27, 2008, 11:58:21 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 28, 2008, 01:36:04 PM
The last voice cast was ok. Sheena and Raine should be kept.
Post by: vudu on February 28, 2008, 02:25:12 PM
Lloyd was a reckless brat who got into trouble trying to save everyone and their dog instead of focusing on what's important lusting for Raine.
Raine was hot, but Zelos was hotter.
Post by: Athrun Zala on February 28, 2008, 11:26:18 PM
I have no clue what Lloyd's supposed to do. I won't use him anyway.and Zelos, Regal, Kratos. Oh and Presea...
The last voice cast was ok. Sheena and Raine should be kept.
Post by: oohhboy on February 28, 2008, 11:42:40 PM
I have no problem with the voice actors. They are far better than most of the voice actors you hear on TV. Especially any of that 4Kids stuff.
Lloyd was reckless, at least he was only idealistic, not EMO.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on February 29, 2008, 11:05:41 AM
Raine and sheena for Hawtness. It would be Raine only for not that slinky Kimono Sheena wears.
I'm glad so many people like Raine. The guy I tried to get into Tales of Symphonia thought I was crazy.
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I have no problem with the voice actors. They are far better than most of the voice actors you hear on TV. Especially any of that 4Kids stuff.
It's funny you should say that, since I can pick out every voice actor in the game from something I've seen a lot of on TV. Lloyd = Robin from Teen Titans, for example. I do like the cast, though. Some of my favorite voice actors are in it.
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 04, 2008, 11:19:03 PM
Http://namco-ch.net/talesofsymphonia_wii/index.php
Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 05, 2008, 02:00:54 AM
the change was in the ".pdb" it should have been php. There is no language called pdp.
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 05, 2008, 02:21:57 AM
I can do something for ya Maxi :) http://namco-ch.net/talesofsymphonia_wii/index.phpThank you Obi DAaaman Kanobi 64 you are wise beyond your years.
the change was in the ".pdb" it should have been php. There is no language called pdp.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on March 05, 2008, 01:04:05 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 28, 2008, 02:27:12 PM
Post by: Pale on March 28, 2008, 02:30:39 PM
RPGs are rarely big holiday games in the states. Therefore companies usually like to slot them into other dead times throughout the year.
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 28, 2008, 02:34:09 PM
Post by: Pale on March 28, 2008, 02:44:41 PM
I think our only chance of it hitting this fall is if Nintendo doesn't have any big first party games to fill in the season, which I hope isn't the case.
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 28, 2008, 02:59:22 PM
Well big titles like Final Fantasy and such.This is why I don't like not knowing when titles come out. The only title that I can think of coming out is Diasaster:DOC in November.This is annoying.
I think our only chance of it hitting this fall is if Nintendo doesn't have any big first party games to fill in the season, which I hope isn't the case.
Post by: Kairon on March 28, 2008, 05:12:02 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 28, 2008, 05:19:23 PM
Either it comes out later this year, or it comes out at the same time as the Euro version in 2011.
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 28, 2008, 05:56:35 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 28, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
The Euro version was lucky to get the game in the same calendar year as the Yank version, just 4 months later.
Post by: ShyGuy on April 16, 2008, 11:20:36 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 16, 2008, 11:36:38 PM
IGN has updates about this Tales thing, suprised nobody mentioned it yet. http://wii.ign.com/articles/866/866844p1.htmlThank you for posting this. I have been playing Okami so I missed some news.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 17, 2008, 02:40:10 PM
`` 1UP: So you decided to make a game on the Wii, then chose Symphonia as your base.
TK: Right. Once we chose to make a Wii Tales game, Symphonia followed along soon after, since that was on a Nintendo platform and also happens to be the bestselling title in the series.
1UP: The bestselling in the series? More so than Abyss?
TK: Oh yes. Abyss didn't sell in North America. [Laugh] ``
`` You have to think about what sort of game would be best for the sort of customer each console attracts, so putting Tales out on the Wii could be called a mismatch, but we see it as a calculated business risk because there are no other RPGs. If that wasn't the case and we simply released a hardcore-oriented game, we'd fail, obviously. I think it's the right choice. ``
TABLE SCRAPS FOR WII
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 17, 2008, 04:48:58 PM
...
"so putting Tales out on the Wii could be called a mismatch"
...
So what do you call Tales 360, Namco? You think that's going to sell like hotcakes? I sure as hell hope not...Let's think here...
Wii fanbase = Gamecube fanbase + crapload more...
Tales of Symphonia = biggest Tales seller in recent history...actually make that EVER...
Tales of Symphonia sequel + Wii = possible MISMATCH!?
Let's use that squishy mass inside your heads, okay Namco?
Post by: Luigi Dude on April 17, 2008, 05:29:43 PM
"You have to think about what sort of game would be best for the sort of customer each console attracts, so putting Tales out on the Wii could be called a mismatch, but we see it as a calculated business risk because there are no other RPGs."
...
"so putting Tales out on the Wii could be called a mismatch"
And people wonder why Nintendo fans have negative feelings towards third parties. Watch as the Wii Tales, outsells the 360/PS3 Tales games by about 5 times as many copies, and yet Namco will then immediatly announce 3 new Tales games, all for only the 360/PS3.
It's just like how Tales of Symphonia for the Gamecube, is the best selling Tales game of all time. But because the PS2 port of the game sold 100,000 more copies in Japan, Namco suddenly announces the rest of the Tales series will only be PS2 exclusive. Even though Tales of Symphonia created a huge Tales fanbase worldwide on the Gamecube, because the PS2 Japan only port outsold the Gamecube version in Japan by not even a large margin, that was all Namco needed to completly remove all Gamecube support.
You see everyone, that's how third party support works on a Nintendo system. Release nothing but scraps and look for any reason you can to pull all support, even if your already giving it hardly any support in the first place.
Post by: Adrock on April 19, 2008, 07:42:36 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 21, 2008, 07:40:22 PM
Ok I found the trailer
Http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33084.html
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 28, 2008, 04:36:20 PM
Post by: blackfootsteps on April 28, 2008, 09:29:43 PM
Some people are hard to please. You're getting upset over an interview.... but the game is still coming to the Wii. What are you complaining about? The producers can say whatever they want, but that doesn't change the fact that THE GAME IS STILL COMING TO THE WII!
Well because of idiotic reasoning like the above we missed out on playing the post-Symphonia Tales games. Who's to say that won't happen again?
(by above I meant that expressed in the interviews)
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 05, 2008, 02:28:14 AM
When I found out that Nintendo Power was gonna have a cover story on it, i was anxious for the issue only to realize my subscription ended just before that issue came out....it resulted in me subscribing again waiting a few days then i just said f@ck it and went to the store to pick up the mag, lol. Oh and yes i now have 2 issues of the mag...
To be honest though i think I'm more excited about the DS one.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
I am the fanbase. Does that make me nice?
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 05, 2008, 12:00:54 PM
To be honest though i think I'm more excited about the DS one.
Well too bad, Namco has no plans to localize it... =\
Post by: Mario on May 05, 2008, 12:56:17 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 09, 2008, 08:32:49 PM
Post by: WuTangTurtle on May 11, 2008, 05:01:47 PM
I swear I'm gonna have to start to learn Japanese, not so i can import games and understand them but so i can write a big "F" you letter to Namco/Bandai.
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2008, 07:05:44 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 23, 2008, 07:33:22 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 23, 2008, 07:40:51 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 23, 2008, 07:44:03 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 23, 2008, 08:31:58 PM
I'm just hoping that they include dual-audio (space is clearly not an issue, as 360 RPGs have had dual-audio), because the woman who does the voice of Marta (Rie Kugimiya) is my all-time favorite VA...
I doubt it will happen. It was said in an interview about Tales of Vesperia for the 360 that Namco had no plans on including the option to switch to Japanese voice work in that game, so it's very doubtful they'll do it for this game either.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 23, 2008, 08:36:35 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 24, 2008, 02:54:16 AM
What? That makes even LESS sense considering they left dual-audio in Eternal Sonata (another Namco 360 RPG)...I'm hoping it just means they don't have enough space in Vesperia....
Well I read about it several months ago so I might not be remembering it wrong. Plus Namco has said recently that they will keep Vesperia's main theme "Ring a Bell" for the North American version, that is a good sign that game will have a duel audio option.
But even if Vesperia does have Japanese voices in it, that doesn't mean Symphonia 2 will have it as well. I mean Namco had no problem announcing they'll be keeping Vesperia's theme "Ring a Bell" in the North American version of Vesperia , and yet, they've said nothing about keeping Symphonia 2's theme "Three-Legged Race" in the North American version. If they're going to keep the main theme for Vesperia and not Symphonia 2, then it's makes me wonder what else Namco might decide to keep in Vesperia and remove for Symphonia 2. :-\
It's Namco after all, they've done crazier thing in the past so nothing would surprise me.
Edit
Of course speaking of Symphonia 2's theme, "Three-Legged Race" does anyone know who's singing it? That voice and music sounds familiar for some reason but I can't quite put my finger on who's doing it.
Post by: Bill Aurion on May 24, 2008, 03:09:49 AM
But even if Vesperia does have Japanese voices in it, that doesn't mean Symphonia 2 will have it as well. I mean Namco had no problem announcing they'll be keeping Vesperia's theme "Ring a Bell" in the North American version of Vesperia , and yet, they've said nothing about keeping Symphonia 2's theme "Three-Legged Race" in the North American version. If they're going to keep the main theme for Vesperia and not Symphonia 2, then it's makes me wonder what else Namco might decide to keep in Vesperia and remove for Symphonia 2. :-\
It's Namco after all, they've done crazier thing in the past so nothing would surprise me.
Edit
Of course speaking of Symphonia 2's theme, "Three-Legged Race" does anyone know who's singing it? That voice and music sounds familiar for some reason but I can't quite put my finger on who's doing it.
The singer for Vesperia is doing the localized song in English, that's why...
"Three-Legged Race" is sung by misono, who sang "Starry Heavens" in Tales of Symphonia, as well as the song "VS" for Tales of Tempest...
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 24, 2008, 03:54:28 AM
"Three-Legged Race" is sung by misono, who sang "Starry Heavens" in Tales of Symphonia, as well as the song "VS" for Tales of Tempest...
Well that explains why it sounded so familiar to me then. Haven't listened to "Starry Heavens" for a few years now so that would explain why her voice was ringing bells, but I couldn't quite remember the song.
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 05, 2008, 11:00:35 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 05, 2008, 12:43:22 PM
More gameplay footage! (http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=orwC6rekkVE)I wonder if they are going to add voice acting to the skits? We get to see some back ground on Marta. Do you think they will increase the number of enemies you can fight in a area? According to that video you just click on the area that you want without any fights in between.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 06, 2008, 02:04:04 AM
As the video showed, the skits do have voice acting.
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 06, 2008, 01:49:04 PM
Fighting is dedicated to dungeons (strictly with the running monster avatars). Dungeons will probably be more fight-intensive then.I guess I didn't hear it over the commentary.
As the video showed, the skits do have voice acting.
Post by: Bill Aurion on June 06, 2008, 01:52:38 PM
As the video showed, the skits do have voice acting.
Well that doesn't really mean that they will do the same for the localization... =(
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 06, 2008, 04:46:07 PM
Post by: Luigi Dude on June 09, 2008, 04:47:29 PM
http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZVs8mEMGgw
Too bad it has a 0% chance of staying in the English version. :'(
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 09, 2008, 07:22:37 PM
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on June 09, 2008, 07:34:52 PM
Too bad it has a 0% chance of staying in the English version. :'(
Now that I've heard the song, I honestly don't have a problem with that.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 09, 2008, 08:19:37 PM
LOL she's wearing plad
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 12, 2008, 02:12:29 AM
Http://youtube.com/watch?v=6hWF-EzCa7Q
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 03, 2008, 02:51:00 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 03, 2008, 11:45:23 AM
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 07, 2008, 12:36:40 PM
"Today is March 2009 to announce the release of the new, but the information can be found in one souvenir" Tsumoru Yoshi said. Tales of the next series MAZASHIPPUTAITORU (in the main series) will be deployed for the Wii is evident."
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 07, 2008, 12:59:15 PM
MAZASHIPPU
Tales has gone casual. It all makes sense now.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 07, 2008, 03:11:08 PM
Post by: Kairon on July 07, 2008, 09:13:27 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 16, 2008, 01:06:42 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on July 16, 2008, 02:17:36 AM
Score. SCORE. ONE FOR THE MOTHERSHIP!That's gonna fly like a heavy metal dirigible.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 16, 2008, 01:02:50 PM
The 2nd, 3rd and last videos contains spoilers and listen to that English Voice acting.
Post by: Stogi on July 16, 2008, 07:12:17 PM
Looks fun though. I hope it's more compelling then the GC version.
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 17, 2008, 09:29:23 PM
Post by: Gylldas on August 29, 2008, 02:37:16 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCyL9cOqi5g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCyL9cOqi5g)
Alice-chaaaaaaaan!!
I wonder how it'll be dubbed.
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 29, 2008, 02:48:12 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on August 29, 2008, 05:44:27 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 13, 2008, 12:43:59 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on September 13, 2008, 10:06:36 PM
Game sounds great so far, though after Vesperia I'm really not looking forward to going back to a wimpy main character...
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 19, 2008, 12:25:41 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on September 19, 2008, 06:37:50 PM
Then Disaster can have November when no one cares while too busy being guitar heroes.
Post by: WuTangTurtle on September 25, 2008, 06:23:26 PM
Good news everybody apparently the main entries in the Tales of series is indeed going to be on the Wii. Translated Famitsu page (http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.famitsu.com%2Fgame%2Fnews%2F1216409_1124.html&hl=en&ie=UTF8&sl=ja&tl=en)
"Today is March 2009 to announce the release of the new, but the information can be found in one souvenir" Tsumoru Yoshi said. Tales of the next series MAZASHIPPUTAITORU (in the main series) will be deployed for the Wii is evident."
As much as I like the idea of "Tales of" series being synonymous with Nintendo, I really like what Namco was able to do with Tales of Vesperia on the 360. I'll still buy any "Tales of" games on any system though, except for the PS3 (don't have the budget).
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 06, 2008, 02:33:23 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 06, 2008, 02:49:58 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2008, 03:49:15 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 06, 2008, 03:55:18 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 06, 2008, 04:05:35 PM
and Maxi, you have to host images/media on your own space (or upload a message attachment). Hot linky is prohibited.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 06, 2008, 04:06:24 PM
Post by: Pale on October 08, 2008, 02:56:32 PM
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=26401.0
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 08, 2008, 07:22:38 PM
8 SHORTCUTS
SAVE FILE GOODIES
BEST TALES GAME EVAR
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 12, 2008, 06:57:20 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 12, 2008, 07:09:53 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 20, 2008, 10:46:54 PM
Post by: Gylldas on October 21, 2008, 02:14:14 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 21, 2008, 08:19:33 PM
45% remixed
45% original
A decent sound overall. Extra layering and beaty-ness in the sound is evident and makes some of the original tracks from the first game feel flat/dry.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 21, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 21, 2008, 09:15:50 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 22, 2008, 11:43:31 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on October 31, 2008, 08:30:46 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on October 31, 2008, 09:11:44 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 31, 2008, 11:07:24 PM
(No, really!)
Post by: Athrun Zala on November 03, 2008, 09:59:51 AM
But there's no "Fighting of the Spirit," which leaves me very upset and disgruntled!really?? :(
oh well, if Fatalize is there, then all is forgiven...
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 03, 2008, 10:05:14 AM
There are a few new awesome tracks to try and make up for it, though, so it's not all bad...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 03, 2008, 12:23:08 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 04, 2008, 12:08:52 PM
1. Bando Namcai doesn't have a decent site for the game yet.
2. There's no North America trailer/commercial of any form yet.
3. Waiting sucks.
4. No one's ever heard of this game.
5. Namco won't tell anyone about this game.
6. Mega Man DLC sucks.
7. NWR-sponsored REGGIE ROAD WARRIOR DEATH KART is scheduled tomorrow.
To pass the time, wet yourselves over footage from the last game.
Tales of Symphonia (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/gcn/tos.html)
E3 2004 trailer
Anime FMV opening - International
Anime FMV opening - Japanese
Unison Attack: Lightning Tiger Blade
Unison Attack: Arch Wind
Unison Attack: Lightniing Punishment
Summon Spirit: Sylph
Unison Attack: Prism Stars
Unison Attack: Stardust Rain
VS. Abyssion
Zelos VS. Seles
Colosseum Team Battle Mania Exhibition
Ending anime FMV
After looking through the disc contents of Dawn of the New World, there's hardly any FMV animation. Only in the opening and the credits. Which mean, if there's any hawt springs nudity in the game, it'll be presented using in-game models.
For the curious, people should goto eBay and enter "lloyd kratos zelos" to find some reading material that Bill would approve of. Only for the curious.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 04, 2008, 07:15:29 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 09, 2008, 07:24:42 PM
Anime FMV opening - Japanese * "Three Legged Race" by Misono
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 10, 2008, 04:45:05 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 05:01:22 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 10, 2008, 06:39:09 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 06:43:25 PM
Why is there hardly any interest in this game? Does hardly anybody on this board play RPGs?
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2008, 06:55:30 PM
As for me, I'm picking the game up sometime this week, but probably won't have time to play it for a while... =(
Post by: Gylldas on November 10, 2008, 07:03:00 PM
Hopefully the thread will become more active when the game comes out. The timing of this game is perfect for me though as I'm just about done with Eternal Sonata.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 07:12:12 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 08:29:07 PM
I don't even want to talk about this review.This review belongs in that thread about the Pathethic state of the gaming media.I need a new place to get reviews, any suggestions.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 10, 2008, 08:53:35 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 08:57:41 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 10, 2008, 08:57:46 PM
I need a new place to get reviews, any suggestions.
Intuition works quite well for me, personally...
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 10, 2008, 09:02:32 PM
Post by: TofuFury on November 11, 2008, 03:12:23 AM
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2008, 04:08:02 AM
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First, loading GameCube clear data from Symphonia randomly unlocks certain items, in-game currency, and other bonuses at the beginning of the game.That is cool, more games should do it.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 11, 2008, 05:29:36 AM
I need a new place to get reviews, any suggestions.
Go to a review aggregator and pick a few reviews so you can see different perspectives (also reading a few outliers score-wise might be worth it so you can see some of the more extreme views).
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 08:46:56 AM
I'm not sure the "connectivity bonus" is such a good idea overall. An experienced player will play better than a newbie anyway so the boost isn't necessary.
KDR, the sole purpose is to reward the player of owning/playing the original game and retaining the save file for all these years. The only other Wii game to do this is Fire Emblem.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2008, 10:48:14 AM
I'm not sure the "connectivity bonus" is such a good idea overall. An experienced player will play better than a newbie anyway so the boost isn't necessary.
KDR, the sole purpose is to reward the player of owning/playing the original game and retaining the save file for all these years. The only other Wii game to do this is Fire Emblem.
Yeah, look at it this way: it's better than Star Points.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 11, 2008, 10:48:59 AM
Post by: vudu on November 11, 2008, 04:15:28 PM
Why is there hardly any interest in this game? Does hardly anybody on this board play RPGs?
I can't explain why, but I'm totally "meh" about this game, despite liking the first one quite a bit. Maybe it's the monster collecting/training aspect, which has never really interested me. Maybe it's just because I haven't heard very many good things about the game in previews. Maybe it's because I can get similar experiences from VC games like Secret of Mana and Shining Force II for $8 each and there's literally a metric ton of excellent RPGs available on DS. Regardless, I'll most likely skip this game. I want it to be good but I'm just completely apathetic about the game.
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 05:05:40 PM
I'm not sure the "connectivity bonus" is such a good idea overall. An experienced player will play better than a newbie anyway so the boost isn't necessary.
KDR, the sole purpose is to reward the player of owning/playing the original game and retaining the save file for all these years. The only other Wii game to do this is Fire Emblem.
Yeah, look at it this way: it's better than Star Points.
What if the Club Nintendo store in NA will get those game and watch DS games or the SNES Wii Controller those Star Points won't be so worthless anymore ;).
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2008, 06:39:41 PM
Post by: Caliban on November 11, 2008, 06:53:38 PM
Just by the tone of his review, you can tell he hates rpgs.
He loves Disgaea.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 11, 2008, 07:11:15 PM
Just by the tone of his review, you can tell he hates rpgs.
He loves Disgaea.
Just another reason to ignore his opinion, in my book... =)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 11, 2008, 07:14:43 PM
Just by the tone of his review, you can tell he hates rpgs.
He loves Disgaea.
Disgaea is a SRPG ;).
Just by the tone of his review, you can tell he hates rpgs.
He loves Disgaea.
Just another reason to ignore his opinion, in my book... =)
Hey... Disgaea is one of the better SRPG series out there.
Post by: Bill Aurion on November 11, 2008, 07:21:38 PM
(Aha, sorry, not an SRPG fan in the least...)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2008, 09:30:16 PM
I haven't heard very many good things about the gaming press.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2008, 09:58:58 PM
^ see this page? it's worthless. it doesn't even have a firm release date. Namco will probably be surprised to see it in stores this weekend.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2008, 10:00:28 PM
^ see this page? it's worthless. it takes you to a page about some psp game even less people know about.
Post by: Mario on November 11, 2008, 10:01:57 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 11, 2008, 10:05:28 PM
CALLING TO LET YOU KNOW
TALES OF SYMPHONIA: DAWN NEW WOLD, SHOULD BE ARRIVING WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON
^ well at least someone thinks this game is coming out.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2008, 05:26:58 PM
Here's why Pro has been very interested in the game:
[since the vast majority of the reviews/previews/impressions on the major press outlets have been unreliable in the pursuit of raw gameplay info and functionality, the below is based on REALITY and the various promo statements provided by the game's publisher and developers.]
1. The retail price is ~$40USD
>> Scamco knows the game is a half-assed rehash, so they priced it almost accordingly. In stark contrast, Tales of Vesperia 360 is $55 USED/PRE-OWNED/VIOLATED/TAINTED/UNVIRGINATED. holy ****, what is wrong with this generation
2. It's a direct sequel.
>> The first direct sequel in the series. I can actually get some idea of what happened after the stupid ending, like what did Lloyd name the dumb tree at the end, who got pregnant, etc. A refreshing break from the typical open-ended Japanese game ending, and slightly more interactive than the 2-hour ending to The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King and His Men Couldn't Put Humpty Back Together Again.
3. Bonus items from cleared GameCube save files.
>> Hell yes. I don't mind if it's crap, it's nice they thought of including it. A neat way to reward returning customers, it's a much better payoff than anything I got from entering rubbish PIN numbers. It's probably the first notable time such a thing will succeed since Shenmue 2 read Shenmue 1 save files (if you try to mention anything else, i haven't heard of it, so it wasn't notable in the first place), and it's far from the disaster of Banjo-Kazooie's/Tooie's failed attempt to piggyback data (buried underneath IGN rumors and action replay codes).
4. The overworld is gone.
>> Face it, Tales overworlds have been pretty useless. To hell with random battles in ugly terrain assaulted by monster avatars dashing from nowhere for some surprise sex. The real work happens in dungeons/towns and isolated areas with geometry and features that's properly scaled to your characters. Twilight Princess' overworld was lackluster, and someone smart at Namco realized this. Hell, can you imagine the Namco Tales team(s) producing an overworld that was worth keeping? The game wouldn't have come out till 2011!
5. The Sorceror's Ring.
>> The Sorceror's Wiing. We finally get to apply it in a way that makes SENSE. Pointy controls to the max.
6. Only Two new characters + returning cast.
>> I like the previous cast, minus Lloyd minus Kratos. The pathetic truth is many players of the first game only learned how to use Lloyd. Makes some sense since he's the most accessible character for dishing out the most damage in the shortest time, but in the process they did not get to realize the wealth of strategies and nuances possible within the framework of the combat system via the other characters. Spamming magick attacks, regerating HP/TP via combos, combo chaining gimmicks, etc, things that simply won't get utilized by using Lloyd alone (otherwise you get a typical battle where you spam Lloyd's moves, waste tons of TP, then interrupt the game to use a recovery item; or to remedy that, you spend days grinding your characters to lvl. 150 -- get off my internet, n00b). So you hand someone Street Fighter II, and they only learn to use Ryu in the five years they play the game, right? FUCKING. WRONG. So the new game introduces and Emil and Marta, and they both appear to be combo-friendly characters, which provides variety yet narrows the focus for players and hopefully avoids another "use Lloyd and ignore everyone else" game plan. Please try learning someone else besides the whiny sword-wielding boy character. I'll be able to use Sheena+Collette+Presea again <3
7. Three distinct endings.
>> Another first for the series, the scope of the game's happy end isn't completely set in stone. Whether they're like Castlevania games that show incomplete endings based on completion %, I don't know. But imagine, you could have: Emil & Marta get married (bad ending); Emil becomes of the ghey (good ending); and Marta becomes a real boy (best ending, requires the most time and dedication). THE POWER OF CHOICE IS YOURS.
8. Monster allies.
>> More interesting junk to collect that may prove to be useful. One of the things I'd enjoy/obsess over in the first game was reconfiguring gear and attacks to gain an elemental advantage. Naturally, the elemental gear was limited in number and practicallity. Fortunately, the monsters in this game are tied to elements, providing a whole new layer of options and configurations for me to mess with. If I'm not mistaken, this is also the first Wii adventure ahead of Overlord and Pikmin where you have critters do your bidding, and the results look and play better than Kameo.
8. 8 waggle shortcuts.
>> I don't have full details on how shortcuts are configured (yet), but executing these motions should be just another piece of cake like No More Heroes' finishing slices. On GameCube, there were a total of 6 shortcuts: 4 attached to the B-button (like Smash Brothers), plus 2 on the C-stick (which could call up a spell/attack from a different party member). By default, the Wii D-pad can have 4 shortcuts assigned, and it's not clear if the D-pad shortcuts overlap with 4 of the 8 waggle shortcuts. But to even have 8 shortcuts to use would be fantastic, especially if 4 could call on other characters techniques, like multiple on-demand healing/attack spells or special attacks for combo assistance.
9. Various Battle improvements.
>> Limitations in the battle arena and camera system in the GameCube game would often interfere with my ability to play in a multiplayer session (usually i'd just team up with the lead player or stand back as a mage, minimizing camera issues). I hear the camera zooms out properly, and characters are allowed to "leave" their current battle line/enemy-lock and roam the field. So not only will I see my character properly, I won't have to pause the battle to change the enemy i'm locked onto, hopefully providing a smoother multiplayer experience that I'll get to veg-out on another 5-10 play-thrus. Same-screen local multiplayer JRPGs? Yeah, what a crazy idea.
10. It came out this year.
>> Believe it or not, it's out this year. Today, in fact. As opposed to NEXT year. The SAME YEAR the Japanese version came out, sho nuff. If this new game followed the GameCube release timeline, we wouldn't be seeing this game until NEXT FALL. GameCube USA - 2001; ToS USA - 2004; Wii USA - 2006; ToS2 USA - 2008. UNPOSSIBLE!
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 12, 2008, 08:58:43 PM
Using the elements and combo healing is important for Collete in the Coliseum.
The endings are determend by what choices you make and also the final battle.
I haven't found the game yet. I will go out again tomorrow.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2008, 09:55:58 PM
GET FAP
I haven't gotten past the title screen cuz i'm trying to eat dinner, but i did read the manual (FULL COLOUR BTW, shows this 3rd party or nintendo put some effort).
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on November 12, 2008, 10:58:37 PM
MEGATON TALES
GET FAP
I haven't gotten past the title screen cuz i'm trying to eat dinner, but i did read the manual (FULL COLOUR BTW, shows this 3rd party or nintendo put some effort).
I think these are the big publishers that only do black and white manuals from my experience: Konami, EA,Activision, Ubisoft, NIS America, Sega
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 12, 2008, 11:04:37 PM
4 main skills (analog plus B-button)
4 d-pad shortcuts (of any character)
4 motion shortcuts (of any character)
=12 available skill commands
HO. LY. ****.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 12, 2008, 11:41:33 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 13, 2008, 12:21:03 AM
Post by: Gylldas on November 13, 2008, 12:34:16 AM
BTW nice interview. I liked the question asking about online play. Interesting to see that they were looking into it for Vesperia.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 13, 2008, 01:56:54 AM
Post by: Mario on November 13, 2008, 01:57:23 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 13, 2008, 03:44:30 AM
More hotkeys is good, I was baffled by the choice to leave two of the four c-stick directions unused in ToS.
Can you use the pointer to order other characters around?
Post by: RABicle on November 13, 2008, 03:55:17 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 13, 2008, 03:59:50 AM
Not at all. The Strategy menu and the traditional positioning/behavior options is retained.
I've spent >4 hours on it so far. Don't have enough skills to use the shortcuts yet. By golly, is there a lot of voice. My non-playstationed ass is not used to this.
Post by: RABicle on November 13, 2008, 04:10:03 AM
No PAL release date announced.
From what I heard on the GT review, Zelos' voice actor isn't the smooth operator from last time, which is a little lame but maybe Bill will finally embrace the coolest character now that he's pseudo gruff.
Post by: broodwars on November 13, 2008, 11:35:37 PM
The Wii Pointer stuff, though, is nearly useless. I only use the Phantom Hourglass-style movement when I'm running around a monster-less area and don't feel like using the Nunchuck at the moment. It's too unreliable to use anywhere else.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 13, 2008, 11:58:11 PM
Any word on who does the Voice Acting for everybody?
Post by: Djunknown on November 14, 2008, 12:21:15 AM
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Looked around today but couldn't find it.
I went to Best Buy, Circuit City, Mirco-center (place to get computer parts and video games), Toy's R Us, and Target, and either:
A)They didn't have it, didn't show up on their list
B) Available online only.
I begrudgingly went to gamestop where they acted like a bunch of smug bastards saying "All we have are reserve copies, but lets see....we have one last non-reserve copy. You can have it" Excuse me? I should be thankful that you can sell me something? I just paid them and left.
Just got a few hours in, and I'm hooked all over again. Its a case study in dichotomy in comparison to ToS, but it works well with what I've experienced so far. The Gametrailers review is much more fair than IGN's. Don't know what their problem is.
At 40, you could do worse. With Animal Crossing right around the corner, It'll be hard to come between me and my Wii...
Post by: broodwars on November 14, 2008, 12:22:04 AM
As far as Voice Acting goes, there's a lot of familiar voices at play here. Just off the top of my head, we have Cam Clarke playing the narrator again and Johnny Von Bosche playing Emil. I know I heard Wendee Lee in there somewhere, too.
Post by: Gylldas on November 14, 2008, 12:31:18 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 14, 2008, 01:21:36 AM
Hey, this allowed me to eat dinner with the other FIST during walking/shopping/talking. It works.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 03:52:56 AM
Jonny Von Bosche I haven't heard in a long time. Cam Clark I liked his voice in TOS. I am sad that he is only in the beginning.I guess I could play TOS again.
Lloyd who voices him?Also who voices Alice?
Hmmm I am debating if I should grab this from Gamestop or wait for Walmart and Target.I don't want to give Gamestop my business.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 14, 2008, 10:10:21 AM
Jonny Von Bosche I haven't heard in a long time.
It's Johnny Yong Bosch, and he's in every single anime in existence. Also the original Black Ranger. :)
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Lloyd who voices him?
Scott Menville. He's almost always "Additional Voices." Other than ToS, I think his only big lead part has been Robin on Teen Titans.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 10:22:44 AM
Ok thank you UPB.
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 14, 2008, 10:38:47 AM
Yeah I remeber him from Power Rangers.He wasn't the original Black Ranger though.He was another Black Ranger in the later seasons.
I see. When I once saw the original Power Rangers on his credits list I figured that meant he was the first one.
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I watch Bleach but I am not really familiar with Voice acters names.
I find it fun to pick out familiar voice actors' voices, which led to me learning several names as I looked for confirmation.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 14, 2008, 10:41:06 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 10:45:07 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on November 14, 2008, 10:51:18 AM
I remember watching the JP version on youtube and it seems Emil was only wimpy in the intro dungion.All of the reviews I have seen state that he is like that the whole game.
Did the reviewers even play past the intro dungeon?
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 10:56:25 AM
I know KDR that was my point.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 11:13:12 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 14, 2008, 11:40:27 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 14, 2008, 06:29:37 PM
Can't wait to unlock more FIST.
Can't wait to dish out more FIST.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 14, 2008, 09:36:07 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 15, 2008, 01:05:41 AM
Alices chronies beat me.I like how Emil reacts to Martas advances.It is funny.I like how it is unfolding.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 15, 2008, 07:46:58 AM
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 15, 2008, 04:06:12 PM
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Well I got my first member of the original game she is quite the apoligizer and clumbsy but she has a kind heart.After I got her we went to this ancient ruin and there was this giant bird.It was to tough so we had to figure out a way to break though its defences.The cheery girl suggested something.We did it.Came back and beat that bird twice.Now I am deep below this ruin.
Post by: Mario on November 15, 2008, 05:47:49 PM
This game is fail until a PAL version is announced.Get Disaster. I want Tales too but I think we got the better deal, so it's not fair to complain about this. :)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on November 15, 2008, 05:53:26 PM
Post by: Gylldas on November 16, 2008, 01:51:48 PM
Also I love how we see Yuan in Asgard for like 10 seconds and have yet to see him again.
Zelos is still a jerk.
Post by: KDR_11k on November 16, 2008, 02:13:51 PM
This game is fail until a PAL version is announced.Get Disaster. I want Tales too but I think we got the better deal, so it's not fair to complain about this. :)
But Disaster is expensive....
I think I should stop reading this thread since it seems to be all about American spoiling the game now.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 16, 2008, 04:52:48 PM
We've only been allowed 2 players so far, but this has got to be the premiere co-op adventure on Wii right now. The camera and control tweaks pretty much make battles play like a dream (unless the enemy is so many levels higher... LIFE BOTTLES!)
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 16, 2008, 07:11:53 PM
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I am in the Isala human ranch I saw a Red headed dude that was full of himself.He didn't join me but he saved this sadist person. I saw a professor that was looking for this boy.I got lots of new monsters of the water variety. I am leveling them up. I also got an Ogre he is really slow so I try to bring the enemy to him.Oh yeah I saw Richter again.
Post by: jakeOSX on November 16, 2008, 08:14:55 PM
i do have one question. what in the HELL is emil wearing? seriously? i think it is a sundress with a cape attached.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 16, 2008, 08:51:42 PM
And I won't be making "i got to [here]" posts cuz they're spoilers and I don't like seeing or discussing spoilers until 6 months have passed after the game's release in all territories.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 20, 2008, 11:25:07 PM
Right now I am leveling up my Monsters. Before I go on to my next destination.I am finding out more about Alice.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 21, 2008, 12:14:22 AM
Clocked-in 50 mulitplayer hours including grinding/treasure hunting/item creation experimentation.
Melee combat for the two main characters is emphasized, and battles with screen-filling attack spells have been de-emphasized. Do-everything mages like Genis and Raine have taken a backseat, as I've assigned monsters to perform the healing and attack magick functions, with the added benefit that they're much better melee combatants than Raine and Genis ever were. The monsters are cooler than I expected, they have a variety of awesome/useful abilities, and they can be tailored to be very effective in battle (sometimes too effective), depending on how one manages all their aspects. Monster designs are generally pleasant and/or cute, and some evolutions are badass and make you go "I WANT THAT IN MY PARTY."
The dungeons and save points are much better paced than in ToS. The story is better integrated with the dungeons/boss progression, improving the maintenance of freshness, preventing the overly predictable 1990s game design of "you'll definitely fight this elemental boss at this elemental temple" found in Zelda and ToS where the story disappears and the dungeon roaming drags on until the temples are scratched off the checklist. The price for all this is geographic restrictions, no overworld, and increased linearity. No overworld is no big deal since grinding with unidentified random enemies is a waste of time. The enemy avatars in dungeons respawn on a regular basis, providing adequate encounters for grinding, as well as semi-predictable locations to revisit to befriend monsters.
There's a good balance between revisited dungeons and completely new areas. I think they did a great job tying the new story infrastructure back with the previous geography, history, and characters from the previous game, as well as some references to the "future" of the series (ToP).
I think it has the finest combat in all the series (I hope they build off this in the next game) and doesn't need much explaination. A lot of the convoluted "T versus S" alignment crap from the last game was thrown out. Many options/nuances have been reworked to make a more streamlined product. You simply learn all the techs/artes/skills you can, and I've utilized all 12 controller shortcuts. Boy hero is focused on high-damage sword combos, while Girl hero was specifically designed for combo support with some extensive base combos of her own, in addition to healing duties. In other words, awesome teamwork by design (we got a +13 grade on one of the latter boss fights).
3-4 person multiplayer is not advisable until the near-END of the game, because the playable roster of extra characters changes throughout the story (many extras, or sometimes none). Cameo characters cannot take the Player-1 slot, and monsters are not playable.
When all is said and done, this game is an incredible 2-player co-op adventure that a single-player reviewer will not realize.
Post by: Gylldas on November 21, 2008, 12:55:36 AM
Personally, I didn't depend too much on monsters to get through the game. Whenever I had the chance I put old Symphonia characters in my party. This seems like an optional aspect really except for the parts when you have only Emil and Marta in the party. (This actually killed me in the last dungeon during a certain fight)
Anyhoo, I really enjoyed this game and will probably replay it again with a friend for co-op and for completion. Now I just need to hope that they port Vesperia to the PS3. I wonder what the next MAZAASHIPPU tales title is going to be...
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 21, 2008, 02:14:09 AM
Also how many chapters are there?
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 21, 2008, 04:40:10 AM
The flip side is why depend on the cameo characters at ALL when it was apparent their availability was highly variable (not to mention being non-upgradable) ? Which leads to the subject of completion and the 2nd play-thru, things are VERY interesting/hilarious after carrying over our monsters via Grade Shop. Our Emil started off in Luin, pre-knighthood, encountered the first Bear while supported by: a Mermaid, a giant Wolf, a giant Bird, and a giant Dragon, all 9999 HP, all mages. We didn't get a chance to fight MAGNAR.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 21, 2008, 11:35:45 PM
Introduction
Quick battle 1 w/ Marta and Colette
Quick battle 2 w/ Emil and Marta
Post by: Gylldas on November 22, 2008, 05:04:19 PM
Gylldas before you head to the final area can you go to every area that you did previously.I want to get as many monsters as possible.Are all areas open at the end?At the end can you use everybody in the game or is it just Emil and Marta?
Also how many chapters are there?
Before the final area you can visit the entire map and I strongly recommend you do to see some fun scenes. All old tales characters that join your party in this game are available at the end of the game (Except for a small time in the last dungeon). I don't remember how many chapters there are off the top of my head.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 22, 2008, 06:30:06 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 22, 2008, 08:40:46 PM
Gylldas before you head to the final area can you go to every area that you did previously.I want to get as many monsters as possible.Are all areas open at the end?At the end can you use everybody in the game or is it just Emil and Marta?
Also how many chapters are there?
Before the final area you can visit the entire map and I strongly recommend you do to see some fun scenes. All old tales characters that join your party are available at the end of the game (Except for a small time in the last dungeon). I don't remember how many chapters there are off the top of my head.
AMAZING USAGE OF THOSE SPOILER TAGS, BUD
Post by: Ghisy on November 23, 2008, 05:56:25 AM
Voice acting is terrible, TERRIBLE, compared to the JPN version.
I think I won't be buying it, this totally ruined it for me.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 23, 2008, 06:23:49 AM
And you expected otherwise? Eternal Darkness-Nintendo-funded quality at minimum? on a game with a one-year shorter development time, Namco's 2nd-rate dev team, and a smaller budget? Come back to earth, sir/madam. You really want this game in all its un-glory.
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15 multiplayer hours clocked-in, 2nd play-thru.
Post by: Ghisy on November 23, 2008, 07:48:50 AM
Or just Japanese with English subs. But I guess that's too much to ask.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2008, 02:32:57 AM
Tales of Phantasia:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/SixSidedVideo/map_top.gif)
Tales of Awesome: Dawn of the Awesome World:
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/SixSidedVideo/map_tos2.gif)
Post by: RABicle on November 24, 2008, 10:59:02 AM
Your summary earlier was excellent Pro. Can't wait for it to GET A RELEASE DATE here.
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 24, 2008, 01:00:21 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 24, 2008, 02:52:08 PM
"Police said a man who waved a pair of Samurai swords..."
Lloyd has a pair of swords.
MAN = LLOYD IRVING
"on the grounds of a Hollywood Scientology building had a "previous relationship" to the church"
Hollwood Scientology building = CHURCH OF MARTEL
"Police said the tape showed the man appearing at about noon in a red convertible"
Lloyd Irving wears red.
= LLOYD IRVING
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 24, 2008, 03:42:43 PM
Seriously I heard this on KFI this morning.
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 24, 2008, 06:25:52 PM
The real problem is that DotNW is $20 cheaper but Vesperia retains the same cel-shaded style as Symphonia and looks absolutely gorgeous doing it. I'm not usually a graphics whore, but...wow, HD Tales looks NICE.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 25, 2008, 01:43:17 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 25, 2008, 02:08:15 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 25, 2008, 06:45:55 PM
I had this MASSIVE post typed up to explain a bunch of ****, then I accidentally hit TAB and the browser went back a page.
Essentially, it was about how Vesperia was just a high budget port of Symphonia without Symphonia, such that it's a new Tales game that delivers new pseudo-anime art. Namco threw money at it hoping that's all it needed to make HD anime gaming a success again in Japan. Bill can explain, he bought it.
While on the other hand, Dawn of Fist is a Tales game about bringing NEW content to the series. It didn't get teh moneyz, so it suffers in some places in the graphics department (and voice acting?) due to low budget and short dev time, but everthing is top notch within battles.
Dawn of Fist has some "firsts" for the series:
Motion Capture - a world of a difference compared to Symphonia's and Vesperia's statue characters. It's not Metal Gear, but it's great in cutscenes AND battles.
Monsters - tangible collectibles that affect battle. they can be insanely strong and/or hilarious. Effective in melee and magick. Remember the Celsius boss battle, she had an ice wolf companion? I ended up with my own, and he hit 9000HP when my girly was 3000HP.
Elemental Alignment - elemental skills used during battle can change the properties of Unison Attacks, changing supplementary elemental attacks/animation (like the ginormous Majora's Mask moon/meteor i have yet to reproduce), and healing/status bonuses. Monster/skill choices have a heavy influene on the elemental meter. Unison Attacks are not presets you assign; their nature changes with the battle. Unison Attacks are separate from the longwinded cutscene style Mystic Artes.
Free Run - the biggest, best change in the series thus far. Flank and break away from enemies at will. No more crowded teammates getting in your way. Best co-op combat in the series. New Generation Gaming Fist.
Dawn of Fist is $20 cheaper than Vesperia. Dawn of Fist is $15 cheaper than USED Vesperia.
Post by: broodwars on November 26, 2008, 07:12:55 AM
Likewise with the Quest system: the Quests are generally fun (though hard) at first, but like I said I'm in Chapter 3 and I'm already seeing repeats of very generic dungeon crawling missions, and they don't get any more interesting the second time through. They would have done better to have story-based sidequests tied into these Quests.
Then we get to the visuals. Yes, the motion-capture does give some fantastic animation in the cutscenes, but the whole game looks substandard with this very bland color pallete and very soft edges. In other words, it looks just as half-baked as Tales of the Abyss. The voice-acting and music, though, are outstanding. Most of the recasted Symphonia voices even sound good, and there's a lot more nuance in the acting now. And after this game they can't go back to not voicing the skits, because it makes all the difference in the world.
My opinion of the game may change as I get further along, but basically if you loved Symphonia you'll like this game. If you didn't or didn't play Symphonia, this really won't do anything for you. Vesperia, though, looks amazing and from what I've read sports a very interesting main character...though not the most interesting supporting cast.
Post by: Dasmos on November 26, 2008, 09:46:37 AM
Post by: broodwars on November 26, 2008, 10:05:29 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 26, 2008, 02:44:15 PM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 26, 2008, 02:45:56 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 26, 2008, 03:08:29 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 26, 2008, 04:18:20 PM
Unison Attack: Ars Nova (spoiler)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on November 28, 2008, 10:30:44 PM
Mystic Arte: Radian Roar (spoiler)
Mystic Arte: Devil's Hellfire (spoiler)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 01, 2008, 03:38:08 PM
1. Holding A+B skips major cutscenes (the ones that lack text bubbles). Takes a few seconds to work.
2. On the world map, hitting A skips the travel animation.
3. On the world map, holding B speeds up the travel animation (run Marta, run!).
4. There are 3 levels of Unison Attack bonus spells triggered by Monster companions, based on the elemental grid strength. Monsters can trigger a Mid-strength spell, a High-strength spell, and a super-duper spell unique to Unison Attacks (as far as I can tell). At least one element on the grid has to match a monster companion to trigger any bonus spell at all.
5. Depending on who's in your party and what occurs in your Unison Attack, you might dish out enough damage to refill your Unison Attack gage. Thus, you can cheese-spam the Unison Attack... a lot.
6. Due to outrageously different attack patterns and status strength, using 3 strong Monster companions can be more effective in major boss fights than 3 retarded AI hero-has-beens who walk into their deaths. If *you* die, not my problem \( '.')/ Take responsibility for yourself. One of my neopets is near-impervious to bosses' Mystic Artes, somehow. Raising good monsters isn't a lot of work, fighting is. Raising good monsters is about good decision making.
7. The best gear early on are acquired through Synthesis, not Shopping. Cat's Quests are good for the sake of collecting materials (and to a lesser extent, level grinding), not completing an endless list of quests (only certain quests have some long-term significance).
8. Hard mode is fun.
If you have interesting tidbits that aren't spoiler-heavy, mention them.
Post by: DAaaMan64 on December 02, 2008, 03:40:46 AM
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 09, 2008, 02:08:42 AM
Post by: RABicle on December 09, 2008, 03:12:14 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/TALES-OF-SYMPHONIA-Nintendo-Gamecube-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ330291252757QQcmdZViewItemQQptZVideo_Games_Games?hash=item330291252757&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1234%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318%7C301%3A1%7C293%3A1%7C294%3A50
Buy it now.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 11, 2008, 02:33:30 AM
High-level Unison Attacks (spoiler)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 12, 2008, 05:35:21 PM
Post by: Ymeegod on December 27, 2008, 08:31:36 PM
Alot of the side quests repeat with higher grade monsters but the dialog with NPC stay the same?
Also adding monsters really isn't anything new--hell it's pokemon and that's like an 10 year old game. I didn't mind this much (really didn't care about adding monsters but why the HELL did they fook up COOKING. In past/future tales games cooking was a great way to regain HP and TP after battles but with TOSDNW cooking only applies to monster upgrading/evolving. So you can gain TP/HP without using items which is costly and ineffective.
The game itself suffers from a godawful whiner for a main character and lovesick sidekick who I really didn't care much for neither of them.
Tales of Vesperia for the 360 was the better of the two IMHO. ToSDNW was just two steps back IMHO.
Post by: jakeOSX on December 31, 2008, 01:03:03 AM
there is a movie after the credits are done just like every other *&(*#& movie these days. so stick around to the end. (and no, Nick Fury is not in it)
overall the game was good. and as always the opening scene is so much more interesting now...
Post by: BeautifulShy on December 31, 2008, 03:19:10 AM
(spoiler)put words here(/spoiler)
replace the ( )with[ and ]
I haven't beaten this yet.AC:CF is taking my time.
Post by: jakeOSX on December 31, 2008, 11:32:16 AM
so i liked the game a lot. it is the first game i've played straight through since (IIRC) the first ToS (yeah I am looking at you FF4 sitting there at the last dungeon...)
i kept getting lost in places that i remembered from the first one. but it was still cool to see them again. The story was overall really good, though i kept expecting Ratatosk to be Kratos but that doesn't happen. I was also looking forward to Killing Lloyd for some strange reason, but that doesn't happen either
ok, and one thing that was bugging me if Emil is Ratatosk, spawned from Marta's head, WHO IN THE HELL ARE HIS AUNT AND UNCLE?? and why do they know him? are they Astor's family??? sigh.
about length i beat it in 31 hours. which is short, i think. i didn't do any side quests, never once cooked anything, used the same four creatures throughout the game. I did synthesize the black sword way early, which was nice, but didn't play with that much either. near the end i noticed i had a few 'add 3 to hp' type herbs and such, which i didn't use. basically i need to go back and take my time. i finished with Emil at lvl 52 and Marta at 49
as for the boss battles alice and decus was the hardest fight in the game. seriously. even the final fights are no where near as bad. i think i used nearly 70% of my items getting those two down. after that, it is smooth sailing
before the Wii is done, I want to play them both back to back, i think that would be fun. i wish there was a way you could go back and watch the cut scenes, some of them i accidentally fast forwarded through.
i now need to read about the time line and see where these two fit with the other tales games.
oh and i am an item whore. thank you final fantasy for improper RPG tactics.
all in all, great game, well worth my time, my money, i laughed, i cried, it was better than cats. It is better than the 6-7 ratings I have seen. I'd put it a lot closer to the first one.
oh and the end is a total homage to Dark City, seriously. I kept expecting Emil to ask Marta if she knew the way to Shell Beach
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 22, 2009, 04:15:07 PM
Artes and animation
Whatever that Tales of Ten MOTHERSHIPS game is, its character animations had better measure up to the stuff in Tales of Rehash: Dawn of Low Budget (based on the recent teaser trailer, Tales of Ten Pigs doesn't). THANKS FOR SAVING MONEY AND BLOWING IT ELSEWHERE, BANCO.
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 26, 2009, 11:18:39 PM
Post by: SirSniffy on January 27, 2009, 01:24:47 AM
But it seems like it may get easier as I get more skills. I'm mad that they changed Lloyd's VA, and Genis sounds more like a girl than EVER!
Post by: BeautifulShy on January 27, 2009, 01:34:43 AM
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on January 27, 2009, 01:37:45 AM
Genis sounds more like a girl than EVER!
Maybe because Genis is voiced by a girl!
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1147026/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1147026/)
Post by: KDR_11k on January 27, 2009, 04:59:25 AM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 27, 2009, 12:59:00 PM
Post by: SirSniffy on January 27, 2009, 03:55:47 PM
I don't really like Genis voice acter in this game.How far are you SirSniffy?
I just got "the Prisoner" no spoiler. I know Genis has always been voiced by a girl, but he sounded at least like a boy before. He sounds so female in this one. He is purty, so I guess...
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on February 19, 2009, 12:13:43 PM
EDIT: thanks Maxi
Post by: BeautifulShy on February 19, 2009, 12:47:18 PM
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 22, 2009, 09:37:04 AM
TOS:DotNW coming to Europe (http://Http://developmag.com/press-releases/46579/NAMCO-BANDAI-GAMES-EUROPE-ANNOUNCESIsquoTALES-OF-SYMPHONIAtrade-DAWN-OF-THE-NEW-WORLDrsquo-FOR-Wii)
Well Europe is getting the game and there are some additions to the PAL release that isn't in the NA release.
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 22, 2009, 12:54:36 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2009, 02:35:38 PM
>> Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World (http://sixsidedvideo.com/media/wii/tosdnw.html)
TGS 2008 trailer
Misono performing "Three Legged Race" at Tales of Festival 2009
Post by: KDR_11k on December 14, 2009, 03:23:00 PM
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 14, 2009, 03:44:48 PM
Post by: jakeOSX on December 14, 2009, 07:54:32 PM
