I'm sorry. I know that I said I was out of this debate, but I cannot let this go unanswered.
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Originally posted by: The Omen
How long was the fallout from ww2? Did all those children come and attack us because we killed their parents?
To draw analogies between World War II and this Gulf War II is preposterous. In World War II, we had a violent aggressor in the form of Adolf Hitler. He invaded several nations and made his point clear that he would stop at nothing short of world domination. The United Nations did not exist at that point. Japan attacked the US without clear provocation at Pearl Harbor. Only after the US was attacked did they enter into the war, to say nothing of the fact that nearly every non-Axis nation was united in their goal to defeat the aggressors.
Compared to the current war, we have a dictator who has not invaded any country in 13 years. We have the United Nations formed to solve such disputes (which both Iraq and the United States have blatantly ignored). We have no attacks on Americans from Iraq. We entered into this war with a majority of the world (including 3 permanent members of the UN Security Council) decrying this aggressive invasion.
There can be no comparisons between WWII and GFII.
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So if we didn't go to war, terrorism would be lessened? That's a bunch of BS. Terrorism is getting worse no matter what we do, so we should be pro-active and 'disable' some of these factions when we have the chance.
You have twisted the meaning of my words. Terrorism will always increase as people become more and more frustrated with their inability to harm a superpower. That cannot be helped. But in going to war, the number and frequency of these terrorist attacks will increase (as opposed to not being aggressive). Look at this from the Arab point of view: The USA has attacked a nation without provocation and with shaky legal ground. The USA has invaded Iraqi territory and made the killing of Saddam Hussein their top priority. The USA is technologically superior to Iraq - they stand no chance against us. From their point of view, the USA is a bully picking on a weaker kid.
As for "disabling" factions, I refer you again to the fact that 15 of the 19 terrorists on September 11th were from Saudi Arabia. Do you know how many were from Iraq? Zero. Zilch. Nada. Thus ends the "stop terrorism" debate - this aggression will do nothing to stop terrorism.
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As far as the chemical suits go, they were found with paperwork on how to conduct chemical warfare, written in Arabic. Along with the antidote for nerve gas. But oh, the coalition planted it. Which 'propaganda' are you being spoon fed?
I did not say that everything was planted. I said that it will bear the taint of possibly being planted. Or, the possibility of being
pesticides when it's already been widely reported (and believed by most Americans) as a WMD.
The difference between you and I is that you trust what you read and see in the media. You believe that the media dilligently works to check their facts on news stories. You believe that the media cannot be controlled by the government. I treat everything that I read with speculation. I realize that the media is controlled by the government.
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By the way, SARS is in the news every hour on the major news stations, so I don't know what you're watching.
It on for a 30-second blurb and then it's back to the live coverage of Operation: Iraqi Freedom with your co-hosts Chuck and Betty, reporting Live via Sattelite on our new Quasi-Opto video phone from AT&T, brought to you this hour by Snickers: When you're invading a country, grab a Snickers! Come on. Turn on your TV right now - it will be people talking about the war. Look at the front page of a newspaper - war headline, and probably nothing but war above the fold. For the average American, the war is the only thing happening in the world of interest now. And that's the media's fault.
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You know what i've grown weary of? Your Anti-American rhetoric.
That's right, call me unamerican. I have a viewpoint that is different from the accepted norm. I choose to question the government as is my right and responsibility to do, so therefore I'm unamerican. When was the last time you heard a news anchor put forth the possibility that the US was not doing the right thing? Is that truly an objective media? Or is this just the fallout of September 11th, where criticizing the government became "unamerican"?
I do love America, and I hope with all my heart that no American soldiers are harmed in this war. I also love life, and I am saddened whenever I hear of civilian and military deaths in Iraq. They look like pretty pictures, but those are explosions going off on the other side of that camera. Those are 2000 pound bombs being dropped from 40,000 feet above ground, and there's nothing Iraqis can do to defend themselves. Tonight, a civilian area where Saddam Hussein and his children were rumored to be meeting was heavily bombed. Nobody knows how many innocent people were killed tonight. And for what? To kill a single bad man and his children.
It's not worth it.
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