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1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« on: August 18, 2006, 03:47:38 PM »
Among other debates over whether the system is a peripheral, is the Wii like the DS; will there be a Wii2 in two years (when MS launches their next console).

And what about MS' "first-person" controller?  

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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2006, 04:11:37 PM »
Lol that comparison between DS and PSP is hilarious. In regards to the $99, I think that would be a huge mistake and would make no sense. To sell the Wii less than the DS lite could end up hurting the DS lite, not only that but that would be bare bones only. No extra Wii-motes, no packaged game, and a variety of other things. I still hold on to my opinion that the best price point is 200-230$ bundled with accessories.
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2006, 04:28:12 PM »
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Lol that comparison between DS and PSP is hilarious. In regards to the $99, I think that would be a huge mistake and would make no sense. To sell the Wii less than the DS lite could end up hurting the DS lite, not only that but that would be bare bones only. No extra Wii-motes, no packaged game, and a variety of other things. I still hold on to my opinion that the best price point is 200-230$ bundled with accessories.


I think it would be a smart idea to offer the Wii for $99 considering the hardware (the developer even suggested they could still turn a profit).  It would come with one remote, one nunchuck, and a free copy of Wii Sports I suspect.  Let's say for twenty dollars more you can have a second remote and be playing tennis with your friends out of the box.  

If Sony is going to lower the price of the PSP then the DS will likely receive a price drop.  

The grand package for Wii could be $150 with two remotes, one nunchuck, Wii sports, and Zelda TP Wii.

Starting at a low price will make the system truly different from the others.  It will also allow them to build a base for a larger console in two to three years.
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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2006, 04:28:18 PM »
I still say $199 is the perfect price.  It's cheap but not TOO cheap.  Package in a controller, a nunchuck, a shell, Wii Sports, and a free downloadable game or two.  Maybe knock the DS Lite to $99 or something.

I don't think it's likely that it'll be packaged with two controllers, but I guess it could happen.  I think most people are expecting too much.
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2006, 04:36:25 PM »
I still feel 99$ would be ridiculous since a 200-230$ price point would still sell amazingly well bundled with alot of accessories. Here is what I would include:

-2 Wiimotes and 2 nunchuck attachments
-Classic controller
-2 free downloadable games
-Wii Sports and demo disk

That would be the perfect package for a 200-230$ price range and would avoid pricing the Wii close to NDS Lite.


P.S. I'm listening to the link as we speak and those guys do not strike me as the most knowledgeable bunch. What really lost my respect for them when one of them was saying Wii and Xbox are basically the same when it comes to graphical capabilities (Not to mention one of them bashing retro games!).  Not only that but one of them says PS3 has better software than Wii (which he says has not one piece of software that has or is going to be announced he is excited software.
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2006, 04:43:42 PM »
I would buy at least a couple Wiis at that price, but only if there were some good LAN games.

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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2006, 05:00:55 PM »
Oh please let there be LAN support.  Oh please.

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« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2006, 05:04:11 PM »
Please PLEASE Wireless Lan Support! I'll even give up on one-disc support as long as there's wireless lan!

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« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2006, 06:01:01 PM »
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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2006, 06:10:46 PM »
"Please PLEASE Wireless Lan Support! I'll even give up on one-disc support as long as there's wireless lan!"

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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2006, 06:51:42 PM »
I have been arguing for the lowest price possible for the Wii.  I have stated numerous times that I think Nintendo should charge as low a price as possible and still make a slight profit.  

That being said, $99 is a bit too low for me.  I don't think it would hurt the DS sales, because I think people have come to expect a simple fact: portable is more expensive the home always.  Just look at DVD players, Computers, handheld gaming systems (PSP/compared to PS2 and DS/compared to Gamecube.)

If Nintendo can in fact sell this system for $99 and make a profit or a slight loss.  It would be better marketing to include 2 controllers and Wii Sports for $150-175...possible at most $199.  

The reasoning for this is simple: impulse buys.  It is easier to get a non-gamer to buy a single package and get basically everything he would need to play.  One game, One extra Controller, and the system.  A nice little package that supplies everything you need, at a reasonable price.  Looking at both Xbox 360 and PS3, spending $299-599 on a console, and still needing to buy games and an extra controller is quite intimidating for a someone picking it up after playing one or two fun games.

The only problem with a Wii bundle is that it prevents the retail stores from creating their own bundles...bundles they make lots of money from.  Though I suppose they can still throw in a SD Card, Another Extra Control, Some Virtual Console Games, and perhaps another game or not to bring the price to: $250-$300.  Still that pushes the Wii way out of the price range retailers and even Nintendo wants their system.

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If Nintendo did sell the system for $99 I would have a whole extra $100 to buy accessories and games.  Which means instead of spending the money on 1 or 2 games and a single extra controller. I would definately get 2 games perhaps 3, and 3-4 controllers.  Nintendo would get the same amount of money from me, and actually be making more profit.  

 

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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2006, 07:23:08 PM »
I intend to reserve 3-4 Wiis and either sell them to friends or sell them on eBay.

I can't see anything but a shortage for the Wii after launch, and that means eBay will run them VERY high.
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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2006, 07:28:55 PM »
Smash:  That may be good for you, but you are also denying others for a nice Christmas Wii-prise and such just to make a profit.  That kinda sucks.

Personally, I hope there isn't a shortage.  I hope on day one Nintendo is able to launch with 5 million Wii's split between Japan and America, with more shipments available before Christmas.

I want Nintendo to meet their predicted March sales figures of Wiis by Christmas.  That would be amazing.


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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #13 on: August 18, 2006, 07:40:36 PM »
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
Among other debates over whether the system is a peripheral, is the Wii like the DS; will there be a Wii2 in two years (when MS launches their next console).

And what about MS' "first-person" controller?  

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The "first person" controller, is Microsoft's Live Vision, I just finished skimming through Gamasutra's coverage of it. (Game Developer's website.) It seems like a good idea on the the top but a big down side to it is the physical connection to the the game is lost. And it seems an artificial connection, so some of the immersion is lost. Nintendo helps create some more immersion by adding the personal speaker, and the numchuck assembly. But time will tell but I doubt that it is a Wii killer that Gamasutra is hinting at.

Here is the article.

As for the $99.00 I doubt it.
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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #14 on: August 18, 2006, 07:42:14 PM »
The context didn't sound like they had specific information. It just sounded like, "they can sell it dirt cheap."

In the unlikely scenario they could sell a core system at $99 immediately, since they are going to sell out anyway at first due to the hardcores, they should value-add the hell out of the package and sell for $199. A second Wiimote, Classic controller, Wii Sports, and the wireless adapter or DVD accessory. Basically cram it full with everything you'd need.

But I don't take the $99 thing literally. So it's moot. I still think we're just going to see a  system, 1 Wiimote and MAYBE WiiSports for $199.
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2006, 07:48:56 PM »
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Smash:  That may be good for you, but you are also denying others for a nice Christmas Wii-prise and such just to make a profit.  That kinda sucks.


I'll probably sell them to friends at cost, realistically.

Ebay is only if everyone already secured one.  
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #16 on: August 18, 2006, 09:06:27 PM »
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Smash:  That may be good for you, but you are also denying others for a nice Christmas Wii-prise and such just to make a profit.  That kinda sucks.


I'll probably sell them to friends at cost, realistically.

Ebay is only if everyone already secured one.


I am going to not only sell Wiis on ebay but also the PS3 (I plan to get 3 of each). I figure if I am going to be camping out for both systems for around 15 hrs then I should be able to do whatever I want with them!
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« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2006, 09:13:52 PM »
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The context didn't sound like they had specific information. It just sounded like, "they can sell it dirt cheap."

In the unlikely scenario they could sell a core system at $99 immediately, since they are going to sell out anyway at first due to the hardcores, they should value-add the hell out of the package and sell for $199. A second Wiimote, Classic controller, Wii Sports, and the wireless adapter or DVD accessory. Basically cram it full with everything you'd need.

But I don't take the $99 thing literally. So it's moot. I still think we're just going to see a  system, 1 Wiimote and MAYBE WiiSports for $199.


Yeah I noticed that after listening to the complete thing, what bothered me the most is how they seemed quite anti-Wii and Pro-PS3 with little to back up their claims. In response to your prediction of the Wii package, you may very well be right, at least in regards to the 200$ price point. I still have a gut feeling that they will at least include two wiimotes and nunchuck attachments in order to promote it as a "We" system for multiplayer games. It seems to be a given that they will also have the classic controller if Smash Brothers is going to use it. But we shall see, regardless I'm getting it .
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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #18 on: August 19, 2006, 12:16:06 AM »
I don't see a $250 game at launch for Wii.

I also don't see a $700 game (ever) on PS3.
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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #19 on: August 19, 2006, 12:36:24 AM »
How 'bout a $400 game on the 360? or a $800 game on the PC?

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« Reply #20 on: August 19, 2006, 01:00:55 AM »
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How 'bout a $400 game on the 360? or a $800 game on the PC?


That is what I was thinking. Most individuals buy a system for more than one game, and the "fun" they get from their games is what determines whether the price of entry (the console) was worth it.  
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« Reply #21 on: August 19, 2006, 01:19:18 AM »
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How 'bout a $400 game on the 360? or a $800 game on the PC?


I ain't getting a 360 until Halo 3 and a price drop (and that new controller of course).

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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #22 on: August 19, 2006, 01:31:07 AM »
$99 is cheaper than DS. That's an answer as close to "no" as you're gonna get.

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RE:1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #23 on: August 19, 2006, 05:30:42 AM »
Did anyone else hear when they reported the rumor that we will only be getting 750k Wiis?  I liked their theory about hammering down in Japan with tons of Wiis and leaving Us and Europe with a less than average amount.  If they could stop Sony in Japan first perhaps Nintendo will remain dominant meaning even more 3rd party support in Japan.  HOWEVER then they are leaving Europe and America really open to end up becoming Sony fanboys so I dunno if this would be the wisest of decisions.

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RE: 1upyours 8/18/06 Nintendo could sell Wii for $99
« Reply #24 on: August 19, 2006, 05:52:40 AM »
It's also rumored that Sony will ship 700k PS3's to the US for this year. If so then 750k Wii's will be just enough to say "we've beat the PS3 in the US" at the end of the year while stomping them in Japan and Europe. I don't think it will be as low as 750k Wii's though. They've said they'll ship 6 million Wii's worldwide before March 07 havent they? If so, the majority of those will be before the end of December, i'll guess 4 million for this year then. 1.5 Million for Japan and Europe and 1 million for the US would be the worst case scenario for US shipments. I suspect Europe will end up getting the lower shipment but who knows. Maybe they'll be equal? I can't decide which region would be more important for Nintendo to completely own first, so I think just barely outshipping PS3 in every territory would be ideal.