Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 23, 2003, 02:53:53 PM
First massive job cuts and now this.
*Doing my best Jim Morrison imitation here "This is the end...."
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 23, 2003, 03:46:13 PM
"dragged down by lower-than expected earnings from its videogame software (Sony Computer Entertainment) and a loss at its movie operations."
The key is lower than expected earnings, the still made money from the video game end, it was the movie side of Sony that lost all the dough.
Keep dreaming, Sony aint going anywhere, at least not yet.
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 24, 2003, 03:01:27 PM
I predict SCEA will be the next arm of sony to post huge losses.
And let me just say this; if the rumors are true that the PSP is having serious production and design difficulties, well, the future doesn't look good for sony....
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 24, 2003, 03:24:56 PM
Give link to PSP stuff.
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 24, 2003, 05:42:35 PM
Also here's a great quote from Perrin Kaplan:
"When we increase our market share, it's not from Microsoft. It's from Sony." says Kaplan.
Many people "in the know" predict that sony will lose at leat %60 of it's current installed base during the next round of video game wars. Ouch!
So let's get this straight, first sony posts an enourmous financial loss, then they cut 20,000 jobs, psp is having serious production problems, and every day sony loses more of their market share. Seriously, it's not looking good for soon to be former, no#1.
As for the psp info, sorry I can't post a link. What I know, and what many others are starting to find out, can best be considered "insider information." The kind that get's people sent to jail on wall steet. I'm just here to spread the info you can't read elsewhere.
be seeing you.
Post by: PIAC on October 25, 2003, 05:11:16 AM
Post by: Mario on October 25, 2003, 05:30:57 AM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 25, 2003, 07:44:41 AM
that was my nest question.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 25, 2003, 08:08:39 AM
Post by: kennyb27 on October 25, 2003, 10:17:53 AM
QuoteAgentSeven never had links so how would Yuji Miyamoto have them now?
Again where are links to PSP things?
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 25, 2003, 01:57:49 PM
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 25, 2003, 03:02:41 PM
let me say this AGAIN for the slow people, I can not provide a link to the information reguarding the PSP and it's major production and design difficulties.
do you people honestly think I get all of my video game industry infromation from the web? seriouslly, the web is the biggest tool of dis-information there is. somethings you have to find out in person...
although, if you do a search for info reguarding the psp and it's problems, you may find a tantalizing clue here of there. there was the hint miymoto dropped about the "problems," among other things....
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 25, 2003, 04:13:31 PM
Are you SURE that you aren't AgentSeven. If you really weren't AgentSeven, wouldn't you be more confused or angry instead of just saying, "I am not him"?
*blows bubbles out of pipe*
An you refered to yourself in third person....almost as if you weren't used to your name and had an earlier alias that you still recognized yourself as......
*shifty eyes*
And what's with calling him "agent7"? Since his name was stated earlier, the only reason that you would state hi sname with that big of a difference would be to trick us into thinking you've never heard his name before...
*scratces chin*
I AM THE GREATEST DETECTIVE EVER. YOU ARE AGENTSEVEN!
MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 25, 2003, 04:51:08 PM
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 25, 2003, 07:27:55 PM
Here's the article about sony's recent financial loses. Quite substantial losses indeed.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-sony21.html
Here's a link to doozy of an article that talks about how sony is cutting 20,000 jobs. It also mentions that sony's biggest comeptitors are quickly gaining ground.
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/editorial/6159813.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
Here is an article from earlier in the year concerning sony's failure in the mobile phone business.
I can provide many, many more if you wish....
KnowsNothing, your name says it all. Im not AGT7. What's with your obsession with this "character." Are you in love with him? Hmmmm.....
Post by: PIAC on October 25, 2003, 09:37:05 PM
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Here's the thing, I'm actually a reatail buyer for a certain chain that shall reamin nameless.
agentseven also claimed he was a retail buyer for a certain chain that shall remain namless...
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 25, 2003, 09:41:53 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on October 25, 2003, 11:04:29 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 26, 2003, 04:11:27 AM
That is Sony Ericsson, which is concerned with building cell phones, and all that basically said is that they would move away from CDMA to the GSM, as it is a faster growing coding for Cell Phones. How does that say anything about PSP?
I don't question whether sony is losing money, for the last 15 years sony has been losing money, thats a given. What I question is when you say psp is having major issues and then say you can't give any stories and even if you could the internet is stupid.
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 04:44:49 AM
I was using the sort of messed up, retarded logic that people here have grown accustom (sp) to. TAKE THAT!
And you do say almost exact quotes from agentseven. hmmm.......
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 04:49:18 AM
*is confused*
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 04:55:15 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 06:23:37 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 06:29:14 AM
I'll hate Yuji if he does something to make me hate him. He just better not turn back into AgentSeven or I will...be.....sad....or something.....
*takes off detective hat*
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 26, 2003, 07:18:38 AM
I dont give a crap if he is agent7 or not, the point is he makes outlandish claims and fails to back them up with any links or evidence of any kind, then gets pissy with people who question what he writes.
Who he is is irrelivent, what he does is what bothers me.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 07:35:16 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 07:43:04 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 07:46:19 AM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 26, 2003, 09:23:20 AM
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 10:14:18 AM
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 26, 2003, 01:08:48 PM
Also, Agent Seven was a character that someone was playing, not a real personality. Sort of like a cartoon villain....We spoke on many occasions and I support his cause entirely. There needs to be more hardcore Nintendo fans who are not affraid to say the things that piss people off.
Lastly, the real point of this thread was to do what people like Canuck are doing all the time. And that is to post a "Doom" thread about another system and then to see who responded. Just as I expected, cannuck was the first to say the thread was BS. Even though I am sure he never followed the link and actually read the article, which PROVES my claim. Also, he's the one who posts the same EXACT style "Doom" threads about Nintendo all the freakin time. Isn't it funny to see how he responded....
Anyway for all of the slow witted folks out there.(Like you manuited) Here are the links that I have supplied multiple times in this thread. I now some of you kids are not exactly eduacated, but why don't you actually READ the articles in the links before you say "I don't believe you."
HERE'S THE LINKS:
http://www.gamespydaily.com/news/fullstory.asp?id=5423
Here's the article about sony's recent financial loses. Quite substantial losses indeed.
http://www.suntimes.com/output/business/cst-fin-sony21.html
Here's a link to doozy of an article that talks about how sony is cutting 20,000 jobs. It also mentions that sony's biggest comeptitors are quickly gaining ground.
http://www.siliconvalley.com/mld/siliconvalley/news/editorial/6159813.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp
Here is an article from earlier in the year concerning sony's failure in the mobile phone business.
I can provide many, many more if you wish....
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 01:35:38 PM
As for AgentSeven, I always got the joke. In fact, I liked how he deliberately pissed people off. There is a need for this, especially among the ultra-ignorant "playstation generation." These are the kids who think sony invented video games. These are also the same numb-nuts who think sony will always be number one! LMAO!!!!!
great stuff man, whoever you are...
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 01:44:38 PM
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 01:50:02 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 01:56:09 PM
And so are you- AgentSeven once claimed I hated Nintendo and was a Sony fanboy. Geese, you'd think some people would reserve judgement until they got to know the person.
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 02:09:13 PM
still this is besides the point. the real point is that there is substantial proof that sony is in trouble and if you ask me, things will only get worse for them.
Here's a link that I found about the subject.
http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6077227.html
add this to the 5 or 6 links that Yuji Miyamoto posted and you start to see the big picture here. sony is in real trouble. this can only be good for nintendo.
peace
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 02:13:15 PM
Post by: manunited4eva22 on October 26, 2003, 02:25:21 PM
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 02:30:52 PM
i dont think that YM said anything about the psp being a pile of junk, just that it was having "production difficulties."
as for the agent, i am one of his many fans. i also know for a fact that he recieved actuall fan mail from people in this forum telling him how happy they were to finally have a hardcore nintendo fan on the scene. i totally agree. we need more die hard nintendo fans, not doom-sayers. as for you mouse, im sure he didnt hate you, it just seemed like he loved to get you angry.
Post by: KnowsNothing on October 26, 2003, 02:34:28 PM
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 02:39:11 PM
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 02:47:19 PM
boy mouse, you are so full of hatred and self-righteousness. who are you to tell people how to think? mouse your'e so whiny and opinionated that many of the things you say piss me off on a regualr basis. i wouldn't mind if you were banned as well. you always seem to be online. dont you ever actually play games?
To get this topic back on track. does anyone have the EGM article where Shigeru Miyamoto hints at the psp having production problems?
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 03:01:10 PM
Me? Banned? Does anyone else share the same sentiment?
Post by: Yuji Miyamoto on October 26, 2003, 03:15:00 PM
as for agent, his whole "nintendo rules and sony sucks" bit was exactly that, an act! am i the only one smart enough to see that. i thought he was fun. mainly because he made self-righteous computer nerds angry. it was great.
Mouse, you act the same way agent seven did. You are always right and everyone else is wrong. you always have to have the last word. why dont you lay off Clockwork and quit swearing?
ClockworkT. I read that same article. You are right. It did seem like Miyamoto was being "coy."
Like he knew something bad about the PSP, but wasn't saying.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 03:15:43 PM
Can't you guys just get along? Two hard-headed people who just won't let the argument die...If Yuji/Agent/Undisclosed/etc wants to post articles on the possible demise of Sony, then let him...It's not hurting anyone. Now stop the flaming, and stick on topic...
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 03:27:31 PM
As for games, I just beat Viewtiful Joe on the hard level and I'm about half way through with F-Zero.
Back on topic, does anyone have a subscription to Electronic Gaming Monthly? The article where Miyamoto mentions the Psp was in an issue a couple of months back. It was fairly recent. If you have any back issues, please check. It was only an off handed remark like "you'd think they (sony) were having some sort of problem." meaning a problem with the psp. It was very coy and he did act like he knew something more, but he wasn't going to come right out and say it.
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 03:29:30 PM
BTW, clockwork, I called AgentSeven an @$$hole, not you. Read my post again.
Post by: southerbill on October 26, 2003, 03:33:12 PM
Post by: ThePerm on October 26, 2003, 03:33:53 PM
hickoryu dickory dock the mouse fought with the clock...and then i said people go on and on...goes back to end of humanity thread.....
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 03:38:43 PM
*hits mouse_clicker with rolled-up newspaper*
Post by: mouse_clicker on October 26, 2003, 03:40:57 PM
Post by: southerbill on October 26, 2003, 03:42:47 PM
Why don't agent, I mean yuji, tomato, and mouse all go in an aim chat and talk it out? Make things a lot easier.
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 03:45:03 PM
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Originally posted by: ClockworkTomato
didn't miyamoto, and I don't mean Yuji, say something in an EGM article recently about the suppossed psp manufacturing troubles? can anyone post that article? being asian, i know how the japanese can be. Miyamoto was being coy, he KNOWS there is a problem, but he wont come right out and say it.
Well if this is true then Miyamoto didn't outright say that the PSP was having problems, which only the humblest businessmen could keep from blurting...
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 04:16:08 PM
Bill, I must say that coming from an Asian-American perspective, it seems that what Miyamoto was doing was deliberate. It's a very Asian thing actually. He subltly implys something he probably knows all about. I think he was being coy. He may know something we don't. All of these large companies love to spy on each other. Now if only some inside info would be leaked. However I could be wrong.
Post by: southerbill on October 26, 2003, 04:29:09 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on October 26, 2003, 04:33:39 PM
Post by: thecubedcanuck on October 26, 2003, 05:05:09 PM
just kidding
Post by: PIAC on October 26, 2003, 05:24:29 PM
Post by: ClockworkTomato on October 26, 2003, 05:31:35 PM
i've read the forums for a while but like many i never post.
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 26, 2003, 06:36:18 PM
MY MAGIC XRAY ADMIN POWERS REVEAILS THAT YUJI, CLOCKWORK, AND AGENT7 ARE ONE IN THE SAME
THUS RENDERING HIM BANNED AND THIS THREAD HILARIOUS
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 26, 2003, 07:03:53 PM
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Yuji Miyamoto is not Agent7, to answer you first question.
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Also, Agent Seven was a character that someone was playing, not a real personality. Sort of like a cartoon villain....We spoke on many occasions and I support his cause entirely.
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Great links! Really informative stuff.
As for AgentSeven, I always got the joke.
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Thanks for the tip! I picked up an xbox live pack for $10. very cool
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mainly because he made self-righteous computer nerds angry. it was great.
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ClockworkT. I read that same article. You are right.
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im sure he'd consider that an honor. i think getting banned deliberately was one of his goals.
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as for the agent, i am one of his many fans. i also know for a fact that he recieved actuall fan mail from people in this forum telling him how happy they were to finally have a hardcore nintendo fan on the scene. i totally agree.
maybe from himself
Post by: PIAC on October 26, 2003, 07:06:04 PM
Post by: Mario on October 26, 2003, 07:19:21 PM
O-W-N-E-D
Post by: Berto2K on October 26, 2003, 07:30:02 PM
Post by: Confessor on October 26, 2003, 07:42:13 PM
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 26, 2003, 07:44:30 PM
Post by: PIAC on October 26, 2003, 07:50:52 PM
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Originally posted by: PIAC
...are you agentseven...
YEP NO-ONE NOTICED A THING
Post by: Truth on October 26, 2003, 08:09:46 PM
About a year ago I was monitoring the various Nintendo related websites. I came across the PGC forums and I couldn't believe what I was seeing. Almost every thread was from some whinny no-nothing kid saying "my game cube is broken" or "nintendo is doomed." Everyone in here would respond like gulible fools. It made me sick. And to make things worse, the forums no-nothing/do-nothing moderators would sit back and do absolutely nothing. Even though they knew damn well that many of the claims posted in their forums were false. How many times were they going to allow those stupid "Nintendo is going 3rd party" threads to be posted. Why did they let these lies continue? I think they are just lazy and the don't really know anything more about Nintendo than the average fan does.
So I created my first "anti-hero", Cube. He really pissed people off. Responding to every "my gamecube is broken" thread with a harsh "CALL NINTENDO." (remember that one?) Still, Cube didn't go far enough, and when he was eventually banned, I thought, "this is my opporunity to be a real prick." So I created AgentSeven. Now he was a real bastard. I would say anything I could to bash the competition. It didn't matter if I actually agreed with what I was posting or not, just so long as it got a rise out of all of the "doom sayers" and fools.
It was quite amusing to see exactly how many people would fly off the handle and get into massive flame wars with a fictional character. Totally hillarious! Eventually, I grew tired of AgentSeven, and I decided to post some serious flamming, in order to get him deliberately banned. I figured, a character such as him deserves to go down in a blaze of glory.
Finally, my current identities were really an excuse to post this confession. I'm through with this forum, so you wont need to ban me, again. LOL I hope you enjoyed my characters. I know many of you did, I recieved quite a few complimentary emails and private messages. And although I won't mention any of your names (as doing so might get you flammed) I really appreciate that there is some hardcore, die-hard Nintedo loving fans on this site. I'm glad I could give the hardcore fans a voice. Im also glad that I gave so many of you something to do. I noticed that after agent sevens ban, chatter in the forums significantly decreased!
Keep giving them hell
ps. I dont actually hate sony, that was the biggest joke of them all, lol. they are just number one and nintendo is not. so they made a perfect scapegoat and a classic foil to my many characters.
be seeing you..
probably not, lol
LMAO!!!!!!
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on October 26, 2003, 08:14:50 PM
time for a new hobby
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on November 10, 2005, 06:02:45 PM
agentseven come baaaaaaaaack
Post by: KnowsNothing on November 10, 2005, 06:25:00 PM
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