Author Topic: The game has been leak! Prepare for spoilers! (Read 81181 times)

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #25 on:** January 22, 2008, 12:28:20 AM »

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Originally posted by: insanolord
I can't believe that they'd include both Wolf and Falco over Krystal. I don't even know how they'd do two of those three Star Fox characters without them being clones.

That's the only thing I find iffy about the list.

Wolf I see them using due to a bigger villain presence in Brawl. But Falco over Krystal?

But hey, it wouldn't be SSB without weird character choices, eh?

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #26 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:03:31 AM »

That roster would suck ass, but Melee's roster sucked ass so it would be par for the course.

Tanookisuit · « **Reply #27 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:25:59 AM »

Everyone on Smashboards is calling this fake now...

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:36:00 AM »

I HATE to be acting all Pollyana in what could be a harsh reality, but the more I think about it the more the list is rubbing me off.

First off, EVERY single prophet has been saying that the final number is 35, myself included. Since 35 is a reasonable number of characters people could be running with it as being fact.

Second, the ROB mentioned is different in each list. Some claim that this ROB is ROB 64 from Starfox, while others say that its ROB the toy.

ROB 64 has already been debunked since you clearly see his trophy in the coin shooter game update, and ROB the toy is being used as a koopa like enemy. While they technically can make him into a character as well why would you take what is essentially a mild enemy and turn it into a certified Brawler? In that case we might as well make the Goombas playable too!

Finally, the fact that Krystal is not in the roster baffles me. Out of all the characters in the Starfox universe Krystal is both the most popular and most developed character. If you played Starfox Command you know what I am talking about. Not only that but her voice actress dropped the hint of her being in the game in her website. While she could just be voicing an AT or a cutscene in the SE mode why was it deleted the minute people paid attention to it?

So if you combine those facts it looks as if the list is questionable and might have been created in order to annoy and disappoint fans.

People have been throwing around that list a lot lately. Since its very believable who's to say that people saw it and ran away with it? What better way to prank people than with a disappointing but credible roster?

Once again, I HATE to act all optimistic about this since I KNOW the roster will be disappointing in some ways, but unless the screenshots are posted in the next 24 hours confirming it this list can still be considered BS.

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #29 on:** January 22, 2008, 01:53:07 AM »

Ok, why is 35 character reasonable, and 40 is not?

I personally, don't believe that list that GP linked to. It just is too convenient with no surprises, and the formatting looks too much like they are trying to copy the look of the Brawl design and not doing it properly. It just looks fan made.

Now, what is interesting is this supposed game leak. This feels legit. The character select screen shown is what you would expect...and I wouldn't be surprised if that character select screen actually already has some hidden characters unlocked. Also, people asking how they will put additional characters in the game beyond the obvious spots...I believe that Melee actually shrank the icon boxes later when they added more characters. I seem to remember that, but it might have been my imagination.

Also, by keeping some veterans unlocked it gives gamers more characters to have in the new challenger approaching battles, that are always enjoyable.

I think Krystal will show up in the game, because she would be a great random surprise character from Nintendo. I do not see ROB as being playable sense he is already represented in the game in the adventure mode.

I hope if this leaker truly has the Smash Bros. Brawl game that he sets it up to play with 4 people and leaves for like 24 hours so we can unlock most characters soon. If I remember how the Gamecube worked. 4 people and 24 hours would mean 96 hours of gameplay...that should unlock quite a few characters.

UncleBob · « **Reply #30 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:22:13 AM »

I don't understand why people think Krystal is more likely to be in the game then Falco. Falco has been a part of the StarFox series since first game. Krystal has been in the most recent two titles. Falco has actually appeared in the Smash Bros series. Why is Krystal more likely?

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #31 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:29:33 AM »

Because Krystal is much easier to make a unique move set out of and would add another female character to the roster.

NWR_pap64 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 22, 2008, 02:31:33 AM »

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I don't understand why people think Krystal is more likely to be in the game then Falco. Falco has been a part of the StarFox series since first game. Krystal has been in the most recent two titles. Falco has actually appeared in the Smash Bros series. Why is Krystal more likely?

Like I already said, Krystal is a popular character among Starfox fans. Nintendo has given her a lot of attention in the recent Starfox games, with "Command" developing her love affair with Fox and probably Wolf. Krystal is pretty much a part of Fox like Zelda is a part of Link. Finally, she has some votes in the most requested list.

To me, Krystal represents the latest Starfox developments and since the SSB series is all about updating its characters it would be weird not to see Krystal in any shape or form.

Once again, I REALLY hate to act optimistic about this. The reason why is because this is shaping up A LOT like Melee; lots and lots of hype, lots of speculation all to be destroyed by a lineup reveal. It got to the point where I either dismissed the characters or try to look at it in a positive light.

UncleBob · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:01:26 AM »

I don't think the fact that she has votes in the requested list makes her more likely than Falco. I mean, did any veteran fighters have votes on the requested list?

I'm not saying Krystal can't/won't be in there. I'm just saying it seems like not good thinking to assume a list is wrong because it has a veteran fighter that's been around since the start of the series in 1993 and not a newcomer that was just introduced in 2002.

Bill Aurion · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:21:34 AM »

Well the list has Lucario, which replaces Mewtwo, soooo... =)

I'm still in denial over the list mainly for the fact that Wolf, Falco, and Fox seem REALLY redundant...I really can't see them NOT making a clone out of either of the two we have yet to see...

UncleBob · « **Reply #35 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:30:35 AM »

Like I said, I'm not saying Krystal can't/won't be in... just that I don't particularly agree with the idea that she's more likely than a veteran fighter with a more established history (game appearance wise).

I'm still sad there's no Captain N.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #36 on:** January 22, 2008, 03:56:59 AM »

Well we shall see! I do agree Falco, and Wolf seem like odd choices. At the moment I'm going to accept the list as real and then I can be prepared for the worse. BTW that pic is not "real" as in a game shot but a fanmade one by supposedly two respected "leakers" who gathered together the most respected sources.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #37 on:** January 22, 2008, 04:21:53 AM »

I think GP has the right idea, accept this as the list and be extra happy if and when they do better than that.

Smash_Brother · « **Reply #38 on:** January 22, 2008, 04:39:17 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VxrQiCz4_o

...and STILL no game footage.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #39 on:** January 22, 2008, 04:42:39 AM »

The reason why I'm leaning towards it being real is that on Neogaf (Yeah I was looking there) they seem to trust the source that leaked it, and let's face it the secret characters looks Sakurai-esque (Unfortunately).

anubis6789 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 22, 2008, 04:54:30 AM »

I am not sure what to believe right now, but I must ask: 3 STARFOX CHARACTERS?!?

Oh, if that is a mock up of the real final select screen why is Jigglypuff at the bottom of the Pokemon column when Marth and Ness are at the top of their respective franchise columns? She appeared in Smash Bros before either Lucario or PKMN Trainer, and she appeared in the Pokemon games before Lucario.

Caterkiller · « **Reply #41 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:06:01 AM »

Well Anubis, supposedly it is a mock up of the actual roster. I just don't want to except it without Ridley...
And there are 14 secret characters, 9 of which are veteran fighters(im counting WW LINK as well) and 2 who we have known about for months and months now.

Now don't forget Sakurai said he wasn't going to get all hung up on secret characters this time around, but you would think someone like Olimar or King Dedede would be held out as a secret character instead. Aside from ROB there aren't any doozies at all.

And I can't completely except the roster since we had no new representatives from, F-Zero(Pico would be great as a villian) Metroid, or Zelda. Ridley is a popular character and no bigger than Samus in the Melee opening. I think since he is doubted so much, he would be a nice welcome surprise.

stevey · « **Reply #42 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:07:15 AM »

FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!

Ashley and Midna are missing, there no way they're not in. Not to mention NO Malon!

anubis6789 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:10:53 AM »

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Well Anubis, supposedly it is a mock up of the actual roster. I just don't want to except it without Ridely...

I know, I was just questioning the placement within it because that is supposedly how the screen looks in regards to the character placement.

NWR_insanolord · « **Reply #44 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:22:33 AM »

If you look at the screenshot of the starting group from the actual game you'll see that there's no rhyme or reason as to the placement of the characters on the select screen.

anubis6789 · « **Reply #45 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:27:13 AM »

Well supposedly the character portraits start to wrap around as characters are added, but thats just what the internet is currently saying.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #46 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:38:13 AM »

Well if that is the official roster, there better not be any clones! Also I find it odd that the Donkey Kong series doesn't have a villain to represent it while Kirby, Mario, and Star Fox all have enemies. I can understand why Metroid may not have it (Ridley would be hard to include) but why no King K. Rool?

stevey · « **Reply #47 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:40:25 AM »

See this list nearly everywhere

The Final Roster
-Mario
-Donkey kong
-Link
-Samus
-Kirby
-Fox
-Pikachy
-Diddy kong
-Zelda
-Pit
-Meta knight
-PKMN trainer
-Ike
-Peach
-Yoshi
-Ice Climbers
-Dedede
-Bowser
-Wario
-Lucas
-Snake
-Sonic
-C. Falcon
-Luigi
-Jigglypuff
-Ganondorf
-Mr. Game & Watch
-Mewtwo
-Falco
-Ness
-Marth

-Bowser Jr.
-Black Shadow

-Krystal
-Lucario
-Olimar
-Takamaru
-Ridley
-Midna

-Geno

anubis6789 · « **Reply #48 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:48:15 AM »

Other questions that are starting to pop up in my head:

Why is Sheik in Zelda's portrait when ZSS is not in Smaus's?
- We have not seen Zelda's official character portrait yet.

Why can no one post a picture of the character select screen with one hidden character on it?
- There has to be an easy to get Jigglypuff (if she is not it) like character who would only take like 10 minutes to get.

Why only take a video of everything except actual gameplay?
- this dude has to have a table or tripod to set the camera on, and how hard would it have been to just tape a match?

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #49 on:** January 22, 2008, 05:49:13 AM »

I'd actually be happy with that list if it was true Stevey.

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Author Topic: The game has been leak! Prepare for spoilers! (Read 81181 times)