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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #100 on: July 15, 2008, 03:18:57 AM »
So in a nutshell, what we have is a device that can improve controller orientation (without line of sight to the censor bar). How many games that relied on the censor bar would have been better if we didn't have to have such perfect aim and could rely more on relative positioning instead? My short list is "almost all of them". :)

It seems like possibly one step closer to removing the need for the censor bar in future games and eventually Wii2. I'm all for that. And I think it's almost guaranteed they'll include it with games that need it, and possibly bundled with the system. Though if you need 4 of them, that could suck.

(For people asking about this improving older games, the answer would be no, not without some form of emulation hack from the wiimote and/or console which would be kinda hard.)
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #101 on: July 15, 2008, 07:35:24 AM »
Lack of images or anything from today is a bit weird other then the press release

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #102 on: July 15, 2008, 09:14:41 AM »
I wonder if they will make new fat MotionPlus Wii Wheels

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #103 on: July 15, 2008, 12:03:59 PM »
Could existing games potentially make use of this through a patch?

You know what's funny?  This is distracting us from the storage size problem.  How clever, Nintendo.  Instead of complaining that the Wii can't hold all our VC games we're complaining about the cost of another controller add-on.  It's "Wag the Dog" in videogame form. :)

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #104 on: July 15, 2008, 01:30:32 PM »
Why does everybody keep on talking about the nunchuk... There is a opening at the bottom!  I hope Nintendo announces that this will make older games work better.:)

i dont know about everyone else but my worry about the nunchuck is that it'll be even MORE useless now (when it comes to motion sensing) than before because the wiimote, which already did the majority of the work, is getting an enhancement.

I always just assumed there would be a port to attach the nunchuck to the motionplus, i thought anyone who didnt think that was just retarded.
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #105 on: July 15, 2008, 02:05:32 PM »
Well, the press conference demonstrated MotionPlus + Nunchuk controls so obviously the 'chuk can be used with it.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #106 on: July 15, 2008, 09:40:30 PM »
Apparantly this thing is a gyroscope.

http://www.invensense.com/news/071508.html
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« Reply #107 on: July 15, 2008, 11:10:01 PM »
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #108 on: July 16, 2008, 12:15:38 AM »
Price point revealed.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #109 on: July 16, 2008, 12:18:27 AM »
Is that all that bad? That seems okay to me. It just depends on the depth.
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #110 on: July 16, 2008, 01:02:18 AM »
Dude, the game has TOY LIGHTSABER PLAY.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #111 on: July 16, 2008, 01:43:49 AM »
 So $50 MSRP. instead of the Wii Play "$10 game with a $40 controller" it's going to be "$30 game with a $20 controller?"

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« Reply #112 on: July 16, 2008, 02:17:31 AM »
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #113 on: July 16, 2008, 02:26:02 AM »
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #114 on: July 16, 2008, 10:58:32 AM »
Apparantly this thing is a gyroscope.

http://www.invensense.com/news/071508.html

This is interesting.  I had no idea this kind of thing was cheap enough now.  I did some reading up on the technology and found this pdf at InvenSense that claims that these MEMS gyroscopes were about $60 apiece just a few years ago and predicts that mass market applications would depend on getting that cost below $10.  It also claims that accelerometers like the Wii remote's didn't really take off until they hit $3.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #115 on: July 16, 2008, 06:58:47 PM »
If this Gyroscope is more sensitive then the others used by Nintendo.  I wonder what it would take just make a Wiimote that replaces all the current ones with this technology making them more sensitive.
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #116 on: July 16, 2008, 07:47:01 PM »
If it's a gyroscope, I still don't see how it can promise "true 1:1."  It's still not tracking the Wiimote's position, just its orientation.  Are they just interpreting the relative movements and guessing where the Wiimote should be?  It doesn't seem like that would be very accurate... or very different from how the normal Wiimote works.  But the impressions I've read have said it works pretty well, so who knows.  I hope the working well extends to more than just throwing a frisbee.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #117 on: July 16, 2008, 08:00:40 PM »
Have you noticed that there may be a hidden calibration for MotionPlus? Before every game in Resort, you had to point the wiimote at the screen and press "A."
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #118 on: July 17, 2008, 03:59:10 AM »
Now I can't wait for WiiSPorts2, Red Steel 2 and Tiger Woods 2009.
They also better just release a WiiMote 2.0(Motion Plus built in) along with the WiiSports 2 bundle in the future.

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #119 on: July 17, 2008, 04:01:34 AM »
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/07/16/wii_motionplus/

Nintendo haven't told third parties about this apparently...

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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #120 on: July 17, 2008, 04:09:13 AM »
Well, if it's not coming out for almost a year there'll still be plenty of time to implement it.

A gyroscope doesn't track movement, yes but for most objects (guns, swords, etc) it's often enough to tell which direction the player is holding it in.

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« Reply #121 on: July 17, 2008, 12:21:11 PM »
Does anyone know if this will improve accuracy w/ games that are already out? 
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #122 on: July 17, 2008, 04:33:55 PM »
It won't.
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #123 on: July 17, 2008, 04:50:02 PM »
The two things I hate about it is that the 1&2 are useless when it's held like a nes controller, killing any F zero usage, without holding it like a n64 controller and this make me think they had it nearly done years ago....
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Re: Nintendo Announces Wii MotionPlus
« Reply #124 on: July 17, 2008, 07:52:34 PM »
The two things I hate about it is that the 1&2 are useless when it's held like a nes controller, killing any F zero usage, without holding it like a n64 controller

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