Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 23, 2006, 08:38:23 AM
The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass is the name of the first Zelda title for Nintendo DS, which features cel-shaded graphics like those in Wind Waker. The game may in fact be a sequel to Wind Waker, as Michael Cole reports that the video footage showed a steam boat similar to the King of Red Lions. He also noted that the game looks just like a portable version of Wind Waker, i.e. it is fully 3D, using a miture of top-down and more dynamic camera angles. The touch screen is used to solve puzzles. Iwata confirmed that Eiji Aonuma's development team is working on the game. Aonuma has directed Majora's Mask, Wind Waker, and Twilight Princess. The game is due in fall 2006.
Post by: BlkPaladin on March 23, 2006, 08:41:28 AM
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Post by: jasonditz on March 23, 2006, 08:48:48 AM
Post by: Nephilim on March 23, 2006, 08:54:39 AM
this news made me super excited
Post by: ThePerm on March 23, 2006, 08:55:53 AM
Post by: RiskyChris on March 23, 2006, 08:58:43 AM
Celda DS = WIN!
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 23, 2006, 08:59:08 AM
If I'm not mistaken, it's specifically designed to do it well.
This is incredible news. A (mostly) 2D cel-shaded Zelda = man juices staining my pantalones. I am so thrilled about this. Two Zelda games out at once, holy crap.
Post by: Mario on March 23, 2006, 09:02:40 AM
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"Wow, I wasn't aware the DS could pull off decent Cel-Shading."
If I'm not mistaken, it's specifically designed to do it well.
Yeah, check out Tony Hawk DS.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2006, 09:05:42 AM
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Post by: Kairon on March 23, 2006, 09:16:44 AM
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 23, 2006, 09:19:37 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2006, 09:21:15 AM
Better than Wind Waker. At least "Phantom" and "Hourglass" are words.
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Post by: Pale on March 23, 2006, 09:43:19 AM
Same video at nintendo-europe...
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2006, 09:45:28 AM
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"Phantom Hourglass is a terrible title! But whatever!"
Better than Wind Waker. At least "Phantom" and "Hourglass" are words.
Both of you SUCK...And I'm not even joking either...
Post by: Pale on March 23, 2006, 09:47:19 AM
Post by: Requiem on March 23, 2006, 09:52:31 AM
I am so hyped for this Zelda now. The touchscreen elements look interesting, indeed.
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 23, 2006, 10:01:50 AM
Gameplay looks fresh and inventive. (Actually new mechanics to master within the game.)
Potentially the game that continues the story from Wind Waker and possibly links it to Twillight Princess?
I dunno but I am excited about this game.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2006, 10:09:54 AM
Post by: TMW on March 23, 2006, 10:47:24 AM
Hopefully Tetra will make a comeback too.
Post by: Knoxxville on March 23, 2006, 10:50:55 AM
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Post by: ThePerm on March 23, 2006, 12:10:57 PM
also will it have multiplayer.....4 swords style?
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 23, 2006, 12:19:35 PM
After watching the video though, I'm pretty excited in the pants, no terrible name can ruin this.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2006, 12:31:27 PM
Wind Waker is a dumb name because "Waker" is not a word. It sounds like something someone with a very weak grasp of the English language would come up with, which is fitting since that's probably exactly what happened.
Wind Waker am a gooder name comparing towards Phantom Hourglass. I talk well English!
Post by: IceCold on March 23, 2006, 12:49:44 PM
QuoteOh sh- WHAT HAVE YOU DONE MODS?
Originally posted by: RiskyChris
Nintendo has to stop taking all my moneys.
Celda DS = WIN!
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 23, 2006, 12:56:24 PM
n 1: someone who rouses others from sleep [syn: rouser, arouser] 2: a person who awakes; "an early waker"
Source: WordNet ® 2.0, © 2003 Princeton University
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 23, 2006, 12:58:33 PM
I thought the same thing about Twilight Princess at first too, but now I like it.
OKAY. I think it's because it doesn't, uhh, fit. When I hear Majora's Mask, I think of dark and twisted, like the game. When I hear Twilight Princess I think dark and eerie, which it is. When I hear Wind Waker, I think bright and peaceful. Same with Minish Cap. They all fit. But when I hear Phantom Hourglass I'm thinking more along the lines of dark and creepy, I think of Hyrule at night with creepy purple glowing poes and stuff. But the game is bright like Wind Waker. I don't think cel-shading can give me what I expect out of a title like Phantom Hourglass.
Of course, I greater prefer the cel-shading, so whatever.
Post by: stevey on March 23, 2006, 01:02:07 PM
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2006, 01:20:08 PM
Phantom Hourglass is actually the first Zelda name since the Oracle games that I like. I don't even care for "Twilight Princess". It would be nice to have a new Zelda name that didn't just consist of two unrelated nouns jammed together.
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 23, 2006, 01:49:24 PM
If I had to pick one I liked least, it'd be Minish Cap. It sounds kinda silly. But I like it, and it describes the central artifact in the story.
Post by: PaLaDiN on March 23, 2006, 02:45:24 PM
Or maybe the line drawn on the map is just for general guidance.
Post by: Svevan on March 23, 2006, 03:05:50 PM
Edit: It also seems that drawing on the map is for your own reference. That is, you can draw whatever the flip you want. It's probably necessary for solving certain puzzles, or remembering important info.
Edit: Yeah, that's a two screen boss fight at the end. Sweet.
Post by: Darkheart on March 23, 2006, 03:15:25 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on March 23, 2006, 03:27:49 PM
Actually, it's because from what we've seen, this game has what are essentially 2D dungeons. Then it's got 3D other stuff. Best of btoh worlds, plus hawt graffx.
Post by: Ian Sane on March 23, 2006, 03:40:57 PM
I'm excited about this game because I think it looks awesome. I would like 2D Zeldas with sprites to continue but that doesn't mean I'm not interested in this.
Post by: Louieturkey on March 23, 2006, 03:53:52 PM
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Post by: Djunknown on March 23, 2006, 04:33:10 PM
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The game will be delayed in fall 2006.
Fixed
On a serious note, could this be the direct sequel that was expected back at GDC 2k4? Interesting... Nintendo moves the project to the DS, and gives the majority what they wanted on the Cube/Revolution: A more life-like, expansive Zelda. I doubt any one will bitch about the shading this time, since the DS can handle it with out a doubt.
Phantom Hourglass? Makes grammatical sense. They couldn't keep using musical intstruments in the subtitles forever...
Post by: IceCold on March 23, 2006, 04:38:39 PM
QuoteNo, that honour will go to New Super Mario Bros
Originally posted by: Brandogg
It looks absolutely incredible. I'm guesing it will be the highest rated DS game ever, and remain that way forever.
Post by: Darkheart on March 23, 2006, 04:43:53 PM
Post by: Jensen on March 23, 2006, 04:51:12 PM
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Originally posted by: darkheart
The real question will be if the fairy will be annoying or not.
The fairy is your cursor, so it will be quite important.
Post by: Requiem on March 23, 2006, 04:55:12 PM
It just floats idlely next to you. (I hope)
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 23, 2006, 05:05:27 PM
Two unrelated nouns? Wind Waker: One who wakes the wind, which is what Link did in the game...Twilight Princess: Twilight is the opposing realm in the game, and Zelda is the Princess of it...
They make sense to me, and I'm sure this game's title will make sense too...
Post by: Nile Boogie on March 23, 2006, 05:20:02 PM
This games makes my happy!
Post by: Smash_Brother on March 23, 2006, 05:49:36 PM
Seriously, online MK, AC, Tetris, Metroid. A new SMB, and now a Zelda which looks very akin to its GC predecessor in graphical style.
The DS is rapidly becoming the console to bury all others.
Post by: ruby_onix on March 24, 2006, 01:36:07 AM
Also, polygons suck. 2D is better. Especially on the DS.
But I'm happy anyways.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 24, 2006, 02:06:11 AM
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on March 24, 2006, 05:08:11 AM
And I was just kidding about the name needing to start with DS. I actually think Phantom Hourglass is a good enough name, although it could use a The. Or does it have a The, and everyone's just leaving it off for the sake of brevity? I guess I'll find out when I finally have time to digest all this news over the weekend. I haven't even seen the video yet.
Post by: stevey on March 25, 2006, 03:00:15 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 25, 2006, 06:11:43 AM
WHAT? More like Link's Awakening should be your FIRST priority! FIRST!
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on March 25, 2006, 07:49:16 AM
Post by: KDR_11k on March 25, 2006, 08:08:30 AM
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Post by: KDR_11k on March 25, 2006, 09:07:04 AM
But not mine.
Post by: Bill Aurion on March 25, 2006, 09:54:43 AM
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Originally posted by: ViewtifulGamer
Yeah, Link's Awakening is definitely one of the best games ever.
Fixed! I had to resist taking out "one of"...
Post by: Karl Castaneda #2 on March 25, 2006, 09:58:32 AM
Post by: EasyCure on March 25, 2006, 06:08:06 PM
i actually never owened a gb or gbp and waited patiently until gbc was released, and because i never found the original i got LA dx and killed a thousand batteries in the process. was it worth it? hell yeah
Post by: KDR_11k on March 25, 2006, 09:43:58 PM
Post by: EasyCure on March 28, 2006, 06:05:14 AM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
now i have to rush out and buy those three titles, and probably links awakening
WHAT? More like Link's Awakening should be your FIRST priority! FIRST!
-well maybe you missed what i said, but i've already owned links awakening and played it to the end many times, on the other hand i've never even touched the oracle games or the minish cap, so i'd rather play thru those first since i've already had my complete Links Awakening experience.
Post by: vudu on March 28, 2006, 07:19:15 AM
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 28, 2006, 07:40:23 AM
. . . and recruits to take out those inhibiting the word. I'd watch your back, vudu. :P
Post by: vudu on March 28, 2006, 07:59:42 AM
I just love Link to the Past more.
Post by: MaryJane on March 28, 2006, 10:14:22 AM
I'm going to hang my head low all day until i buy all the portable Zelda's. Oh wait, I'll hang my head tomorrow I've got a concert to go to tonight, not that any of you care, but i'm telling you anyway.
Post by: Kairon on March 28, 2006, 03:55:49 PM
I think you can find it on your Zelda:WW Bonus disc?
~Carmine M. Red
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Post by: Hostile Creation on March 28, 2006, 04:03:06 PM
Post by: Caliban on March 28, 2006, 05:00:51 PM
However my fave is Zelda II, which I know not many people are fond of but back then it was the first Zelda game I played and I enjoyed it sooooooo much, just as much as Dragon Quest, Faxanadu, and several others
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Post by: TMW on March 28, 2006, 06:05:11 PM
Cause, you know, emulation sucks.
Post by: Kairon on March 28, 2006, 06:21:24 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Wrong Kairon, gotta play Link's Awakening. You're not a true Zelda fan otherwise.
/cry But..but... I played Link's Awakening but got bored of it!
Seriously, I'm thinking that Zelda (NES) is the purest form of Zelda which a true fan could want to play in order to understand what's at the very core of Zelda, what lies at the heart of what Miyamoto was feeling as he discovered and explored those underground caves on those family picnics of his. It is the most raw and least translated experience of Zelda that their is, in my opinion. It is the original.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: Hostile Creation on March 28, 2006, 07:02:00 PM
Seriously, I guess it's technically okay that you disagree, but it was my greatest gaming experience to this date. So yeah, I want other people to feel that, too.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 28, 2006, 09:31:28 PM
I didn't like Zelda 2 that much, the fact that dying sent you back to that first temple and the annoying combat made the game pretty much unbearable (worse than Metroid even). Zelda 1 is much better but it bears very little relation to the modern Zeldas, most importantly Zelda 1 is almost completely nonlinear and has no story sequences. You can do the dungeons in whatever order you see fit. Also Zelda 1 didn't have many item specific puzzles (in fact I don't think you needed any item for any of the puzzles), didn't even HAVE many puzzles. It has a strong decline towards the end as rooms in dungeons are repeated more and more. And once again progress is much harder to hold on to, you'll have to run through most of a dungeon again if you die at the end.
Post by: Strell on March 29, 2006, 04:57:04 AM
Everything else after 1 seemed so confined, which the exception of 2, which I (for a while) held as my favorite game ever, and I think it gets a harsher reputation than it deserves. After several years and getting older, I realized 1 was the superior game, but 2 still holds a soft spot. I think that everyone who hates 2 never finished it, either because they got bored or they couldn't. It really held up very well and greatly expanded the overall universe of Zelda, whether anyone wants to admit to it or not.
LTTP felt a little confining, even with the Dark World. Link's Awakening I like, but I don't see the big monster attraction to it. To me it felt like one of those games I played because I felt like I needed to. It didn't leave a lasting impression at all.
Haven't played the Orcale games or Minish Cap.
Ocarina is beautifully executed, and I think I might replay it soon on the GC. Same with Majora.
There is a definite distinction between Zelda 1 and all the others. I don't know if it is simply that Zelda 1 was the first one I played that causes it to have this lasting impression that it is larger than the other games, or if it really does feel, in a raw sense, larger. I guess when you've got two areas that require you to navigate them precisely, hidden rooms in dungeons that don't even appear on the map, waterfalls to walk through, and a huge assortment of items, it leaves a big impact on a young kid. It might honestly have to do with the fact that Zelda 1 is so open. I think part of that was recreated with Wind Waker - I know I sailed around for a long time without doing anything worthwhile, which was terribly amusing.
Post by: KDR_11k on March 29, 2006, 08:30:18 AM
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Post by: TMW on March 29, 2006, 02:38:00 PM
Well, I live in a pretty low population area, so the chances of me finding one are pretty slim. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to look, though,
