Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 12:30:14 AM
Title: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 12:30:14 AM
We only have about six months until E3 of this year starts, so I thought we would discuss our predictions here on this thread. Here are some of mine:
Wii:
Last Story and Pandora's Tower will be made available for North America the same way as Xenoblade.
Reggie will state some life time sales of the Wii and then abandon the Wii entirely during the presenation.
3DS:
New Super Mario Brothers 3D will be announced with a holiday 2012 release.
A new 2D Metroid game is revealed and it will be developed by Wayforward.
Miyamoto's new game will be revealed, or talked about with more information throughout the year.
No 3DS revision will be mentioned.
Wii U:
GTA 5 will be announced for the Wii U. In fact, a member of Rockstar will walk out onto the stage with Reggie and Iwatat, roll up his sleeve and have the GTA and Nintendo logo next to each other.
Capcom announces Resident Evil 6 is for the Wii U and reveals a Monster Hunter game via video trailer.
All of the third party games released during 2012, but before the Wii U launch, will be available as launch titles for the Wii U.
Steam is announced for the Wii U and make available all of the third party games released since 2006 on their service for the Wii U. EA will also announce the Origin will on the Wii U too.
Gamecube will makes its debut on the Virtual Console and SEGA will announce the Dreamcast for the VC as well.
Wii U first party launch titles:
Mario Paint (bundled with console) Star Fox (Retro Studios) F-Zero (Monster Games) Wii U Sports (Next Level Games) Pikmin 3
Nintendo will announce further partnership will second level and independant developers throughout the fututre of the Wii U's lifespan.
Lastly, the Wii U will be changed to "Super Wii."
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 20, 2012, 12:38:20 AM
Not a chance that Nintendo will have that many launch games. No Nintendo console other than the NES has had more than 2 first party launch games (in fact, they have always had 2 first party games).
The latest RFN talked about why you should not expect every Steam game to be available even if it's on the Wii U. Every single game on Steam would need to be re-programmed to work on Wii U.
And I think it's a long shot that the name will change. I personally like the name Wii U, but I also see no reason to change it. "Super Wii" sounds like just an expansion for the Wii, and I can't see any other name that would be better and keep the Wii branding.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 12:41:06 AM
Not a chance that Nintendo will have that many launch games. No Nintendo console other than the NES has had more than 2 first party launch games (in fact, they have always had 2 first party games).
The latest RFN talked about why you should not expect every Steam game to be available even if it's on the Wii U. Every single game on Steam would need to be re-programmed to work on Wii U.
And I think it's a long shot that the name will change. I personally like the name Wii U, but I also see no reason to change it. "Super Wii" sounds like just an expansion for the Wii, and I can't see any other name that would be better and keep the Wii branding.
I remember Jonny Metts saying something like if the Wii U is as close to a PC as we think it is then they might be able to port over a lot of games without a whole lot of issues.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 20, 2012, 12:44:41 AM
Even if that assumption is correct (which no one knows), each game would still require some adjustment.
Don't get me wrong, I want to see as many games available as possible on Wii U. I just think it's not so simple.
I don't like making predictions, although I think it's safe to assume we could find out the release date for Wii U (not 100% sure).
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 12:50:48 AM
Even if that assumption is correct (which no one knows), each game would still require some adjustment.
Don't get me wrong, I want to see as many games available as possible on Wii U. I just think it's not so simple.
I don't like making predictions, although I think it's safe to assume we could find out the release date for Wii U (not 100% sure).
The reason I would want that to happen is so that I can avoid buying another console an djust focus on the Wii U and get every game that I missed by not owning a PS3 or 360.
Pikmin 3 and Mario Paint could be Wii U launch titles with F-Zero and Star Fox revealed via trailers and announced for 2013.
Edit:
About every game being on Steam, I meant the really good top tier titles released in the last five years. The shovelware can stay where it is at for all I care.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on January 20, 2012, 12:51:04 AM
i think this e3 will be similar to the e3 where Nintendo first showed off Pikmin/Kameo
i can't wait to see what Nintendo does with decent hardware, i pretty much already have with the Zelda demo, but you hope to see something more real. I'd imagine Nintendo might spend less time making more games this generation. I'm of the school of thought that with more power comes less restraint for making games. Its also, pretty validated given how much UbiSoft puts out. Its always nice to build levels without worrying the system will crash
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 12:58:28 AM
i think this e3 will be similar to the e3 where Nintendo first showed off Pikmin/Kameo
i can't wait to see what Nintendo does with decent hardware, i pretty much already have with the Zelda demo, but you hope to see something more real. I'd imagine Nintendo might spend less time making more games this generation. I'm of the school of thought that with more power comes less restraint for making games. Its also, pretty validated given how much UbiSoft puts out. Its always nice to build levels without worrying the system will crash
Less casual titles?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Lithium on January 20, 2012, 01:13:10 AM
In no particular order, my predictions:
WiiU
- Release date for the WiiU (Sunday before black Friday probably) - Redesigned case for the WiiU to differentiate it from the current Wii - A third party online solution, no third party store. - Pikmin 3 as a launch window title - DQ10 as Launch window title - RE 6 as launch window title, options for wiimote,touch screen and joystick aiming - Nintendo gives Capcom a money hat for a Monster Hunter game, no release date given - We see what Retro studios is up to - Sony copy's the WiiU - a new I.P - WiiU tablet msrp for $80 USD - WiiU msrp for $250 USD - WiiU able to use usb 2.0/3.0 external harddrives. - WiiU will have a digital audio jack
3DS - A 2-d Metroid, they wont want to spend much money on a Metroid game after Other M - A Final Fantasy V and/or VI remake on the 3DS
DS -Price cut on DSi/XL now that 3ds is selling fine
Misc. - Even if Nintendo does everything right the mainstream gaming media will still find a reason to hate on Nintendo.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2012, 01:38:35 AM
Kytime, you should use bullet points in your post. It makes it look nicer and easier to read.
I like your prediction of Mario Paint. I think it would be a perfect game to show off the tablet controller and its potential. We never really got a proper sequel to the original SNES version, unless you count the 64DD version which only released in Japan. That said, even though this game makes perfect sense that doesn't necessarily mean it will happen. A lot of things which would have been great never happened. Sadly, I think Nintendo would probably call it "Wii Paint" and drop everything to do with Mario out of it. That's not what I want to happen, but its what I predict would happen.
I don't think Star Fox and F-Zero will be launch titles. If they were we would probably have heard something by now, even if it was just rumors. Pikmin 3 will probably be a launch or near launch title though, and I also foresee a Wii Sports type game packed in with the console to help sell it to casuals.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 02:09:02 AM
With Mario Paint for the Wii U you could use the Umote as your easel and the Wiimote itself as your brush. It would incorporate motion plus for precise drawing and swipes of the Wiimote. Also, Nintendo needs a casula title to bundle with the Wii U and I think that Wii Sports title will not cut it this time. If Nintendo came out with a new Mario Paint title then every fan would buy it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2012, 03:02:25 AM
I remember way back when the Wii first came out there was supposed to be a Bob Ross painting game in development for it, but I guess nothing ever came of that.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 20, 2012, 03:54:13 AM
I remember way back when the Wii first came out there was supposed to be a Bob Ross painting game in development for it, but I guess nothing ever came of that.
What are your predictions, Chozo?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: famicomplicated on January 20, 2012, 06:50:49 AM
My hopeful/crazy predictions, these to be shown as part of the main presentation:
-Resi 6: will turn out Wii U has been the lead SKU all along, many unique features. -GTA 5 -Ninja Gaiden 3 -MG Rising -Starfox - made by Retro, 4 player online co-op/battles -NSMB Mii - pack in game, less levels than previous titles, but weekly downloadable levels - A couple of smaller downloadable titles in the works for Wii U eShop, maybe a Yoshi game or Pokemon Colosseum type game to work with Pokemon Grey 3D (possibly also announced)
Batman: AC will be a cut price $20-30 downloadable title off the download store (via Steam/Origin etc)
There will be a bunch of 3rd party games with tacked on or very limited tablet-controller use, this will be what most gaming outlets will focus on as being the reason why Wii U will fail.
Wii U price: $299.99 with NSMB Mii and a 8/16gb harddrive/memory card
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on January 20, 2012, 10:04:41 AM
I was tempted to just write "Stop it, Kytim" but if we're going to have an E3 prediction thread in January, it might as well be crazy. Safe predictions are boring.
1. Super Mario Universe is announced as a launch title. It's 2.5D, cel-shaded, 2-player co-op (optional) and very different from NSMB. Developed by Retro Studios. 2. Nintendo announces that 2 tablet controllers are indeed possible on the same console but reveals the Wii U's real standard controller: an upgraded and far improved Wii Remote Plus and nunchuck. 3. Super Smash Bros. 4 trailer is shown. The game is still early but further along than Nintendo and Sakurai originally let on. It's been in development for a few months with Sakurai splitting his time between it and finishing Kid Icarus Uprising. Expected release date November 2013.
None of those things are going to happen.
Expect the usual suspects. A trailer of upcoming games, few real surprises. Ports of major 3rd party games like Resident Evil 6 and Metal Gear Rising. Price and date for Wii U. No revison for 3DS in order to keep the new hardware spotlight on Wii U but its lineup should be stronger than Wii U even with all of the inevitable 360/PS3 ports. The only real surprise for 3DS is going to be a brand new Zelda and a 3D upgraded port of Majora's Mask to tide the masses over.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: marty on January 20, 2012, 02:20:25 PM
honest predictions: 1. Multi-player Zelda game that uses 3ds/WiiU connectivity. 2. Metal gear or something close to it from Konami. 3. Sega reel with at least one new 3d Sonic game 4. Nintendo WiiU reel with smartphone like games but with Mario/Dk mascots. 5. No NSMBMii.
wild predictions: 1. WiiU controller is also a scale. 2. WiiU to launch with online service that can do video/voice chat out of the box. 3. 3D Mario game that borrows a lot from Okami. 4. Starfox reboot that uses human characters instead of furries.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on January 20, 2012, 02:34:22 PM
My predictions:
Wii U: SSB4 Trailer showing series regulars (Mario, Kirby, Pikachu, Link) and two new faces, no release date Resident Evil 6 and other upcoming 3rd Party titles confirmed for Wii U Wii U release 2nd Sunday in November at 249.99 Wii U launches in black and white models Pikmin 3 trailer, no promises
3DS: No revision shown 2D Metroid NEW Zelda title (3D, cell shaded) Star Fox trailer, no promises (except online) New Miyamoto game Final Fantasy Tactics 3D
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on January 20, 2012, 02:58:52 PM
Alright I'll Play.
DS is End of Lifed. No new Units will be produced in 2013. Wii is End of Lifed. No new Units will be Produced in 2013.
New 3DS Skus announced. A couple special to major Releases. GBA Classic games announce for eShop. First Cart/Download game revealed.
WiiU gets a Nickname or a Rename. Found in American markets that there is to much brand confusion. WiiU 3 Letter Moniker is revealed. WiiU Fit announced. With the Success of Swapnote. Swapnote Deluxe will be coming to WiiU. The big news there is that Nikki is getting a love interest. Rayman Port announced for WiiU. You know the one. Ridge Racer at launch. NintenDogs: World Breeding is announced for WiiU Launch. Feel the Magic gets a triumph return as a seemless collection of the First to games enhanced for the WiiU. Ouendan and Elite Beat Agent: World Tour announced for WiiU. The World rejoices in knowing they are now safe from Alien Invaders, Meteors, and the weather ruining the camping trip of an overworked single mom and her son. WiiU is wired for Interference reasons. New Weather and News app revealed for WiiU. This comes with a promise to add additional channels throughout the lifetime. Which we come to find out they won't keep. Fire Emblem
Crimm will Sleep First.
Microsoft to show next gen of Kinect System off. There will be 2 versions. Core which will essentially be a setup box that can only download content and Extremez which will be an actual game system not just a Live Zune Device. Christmas 2013 on Extremez but, the Set top Live device will come out middle of 2013.
Sony will try to Spin the Vita numbers which still won't be very good. We will all sigh and wonder how Sony found a way to miss there demographic so much. PS4 will be asked about and Sony will say that they are always working to improve there products and will release new hardware when it makes sense. Possibly Kinect like EyeToy. New PS3 Content providers.
Skylanders 2 is Announced. There is much Rejoicing (and crying from UncleBob's wife.)
Call of Duty...
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2012, 03:07:15 PM
I see a lot of people predicting the Wii U will be $250. As nice as that would be, I don't think it is possible. The Wii launched 6 years ago at that price, and due to inflation $250 was worth a bit more than it is now. So can the Wii U sell at that same price and not be a loss for Nintendo? I doubt it. Especially when it will come bundled with an expensive tablet controller and have beefed up HD specs. The Wii could pull it off, sure, no problem... but the Wii was based on technology that was outdated even by 2006 standards
On the other hand, I don't see the Wii U being priced $600 like the PS3 was either. Nintendo knows better than to do that. So my prediction is it will be somewhere between $299 and $399. Any lower than that and it will be selling for a loss; any higher than that and people won't buy it. So this is the price range where it has to be.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 20, 2012, 03:14:13 PM
I see it being $299.99, maybe $349.99 tops but def higher than $249.99
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on January 20, 2012, 03:59:03 PM
I see a lot of people predicting the Wii U will be $250. As nice as that would be, I don't think it is possible. The Wii launched 6 years ago at that price, and due to inflation $250 was worth a bit more than it is now. So can the Wii U sell at that same price and not be a loss for Nintendo? I doubt it. Especially when it will come bundled with an expensive tablet controller and have beefed up HD specs. The Wii could pull it off, sure, no problem... but the Wii was based on technology that was outdated even by 2006 standards
On the other hand, I don't see the Wii U being priced $600 like the PS3 was either. Nintendo knows better than to do that. So my prediction is it will be somewhere between $299 and $399. Any lower than that and it will be selling for a loss; any higher than that and people won't buy it. So this is the price range where it has to be.
I see it being $299.99, maybe $349.99 tops but def higher than $249.99
If only there was a thread for this type of Conversation... Wii U Launch Date and Price Guess Thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=34112.0) Though I will go ahead and say that I said the exact same stuff about inflation with the Wii being priced what it was before we knew about the price. Inflation wise it makes no sense.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2012, 04:44:56 PM
I remember that thread. If I remember correctly, my guess of the price was $329.99. I just picked that because its about half way between $299.99 and $349.99.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kwolf on January 20, 2012, 05:26:49 PM
Well this looks like fun, so why not join in. Granted some of mine might just be wishful hoping.
Wii U
- Launch date and price announced. - Price is 300$ USD - Pikmin 3 is launch title. - Retro is working on an new title in an established Nintendo IP, which is either Star Fox, Zelda or Donkey Kong Country. - Some Sort of Online Strategy that brings both the Wii U and 3DS under a single account.
3DS
- Retro announces a smaller 3DS team within their company and shows a new Metroid game in the style of the prime series. - Super Mario 3D Land 2. - Release month windows announced for Second half of the years 3DS Lineup. Animal Crossing is holiday title. - Konami announces 2D Castlevania for the 3DS and Vita.
Wii - Is spoken about in some manor, Nintendo of America shows no plans to bring Last Story or Pandora's Tower.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on January 20, 2012, 08:43:55 PM
- Pikmin 3 Launch. - $299 Price, even though I hope for $250. But if 3DS started there, no way is Wii U starting there. -Smash Bros teaser trailer, no gameplay.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Shaymin on January 20, 2012, 09:01:33 PM
- Smash Brothers WiiU hype video ends with the following:
NEWCOMER Mii
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on January 20, 2012, 09:04:34 PM
- Smash Brothers WiiU hype video ends with the following:
NEWCOMER Mii
Not looking forward to that... Bring on the Miii sure, but don't introduce it like it's something that fans have been craving for.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on January 20, 2012, 09:55:26 PM
I think a comical video where the Mii keeps trying to join in but is rejected by the characters until one of them finally yells out, "NO! No Miis! I sick of those guys!!" and storms off would be hilarious.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on January 20, 2012, 10:00:23 PM
Mii could be a really cool character if it is essentially a create-a-character.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 20, 2012, 11:15:22 PM
Instead of this or in addition to it they should make Wario Land 3D, because the original Wario Land on the Gameboy was actually the 3rd Mario Land game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kwolf on January 21, 2012, 08:49:01 AM
Instead of this or in addition to it they should make Wario Land 3D, because the original Wario Land on the Gameboy was actually the 3rd Mario Land game.
Oh I'm not saying I particularly want it. Just that I think it will be announced. Honestly if I could have any game in a Mario type series, I personally would want to go back to something more explorative and open like Mario 64.
I loved super Mario 3d Land, it just wouldn't be my first pick to have a sequel to.
:) I just think they will though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 21, 2012, 09:40:17 AM
Reasons for why Resident Evil 6 could be announced for the Wii U:
Nearly every single Resident Evil game is a available for a Nintendo system, so why should the Wii U be any different?
The sales figures of Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition.
If Resident Evil Revelations is a success then Resident Evil 6 on Wii U is certainty.
The sales figures of Monster Hunter for the 3DS and the fact that Capcom trusts Nintendo with an already popular franchise (in Japan) adds even more credence to the RE 6 being on Wii U.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on January 21, 2012, 09:54:24 AM
I don't think anyone really doubts that RE6 will see some sort of release on Wii U.
I predict everyone will overhype E3, but will come away somewhat disappointed, like they do every year.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 21, 2012, 10:56:37 AM
I predict everyone will overhype E3, but will come away somewhat disappointed, like they do every year.
Last year when I was watching E3 live I was disappointed from the moment Reggie revealed the name of the new console. I might end up disappointed this year, but I doubt it could be as bad as last year's.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: dkopman1 on January 21, 2012, 06:10:55 PM
My Predictions for E3
Nintendo 3DS - New Metroid game announced 2D or 3D - New 3D Zelda game is announced by Grezzo - Paper Mario and Animal Crossing are re introduced - Snes games and possibly N64 games are announced for the eshop (No GBA, yet) - Miyamotos New Project is revealed
Wii U - The current name stays - The controller sees a slight redesign possibly with multitouch? - Pimin 3 as a launch title - New Super Mario Bros Mii as launch title - Robust Online service is shown available at launch, hopefully - Releases in August 2012 at $299 or $349 any higher it would not sell - Gamecube games will be available to digitally download
3rd Party support will be there in great amount for the Wii U and the 3DS
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 21, 2012, 07:32:22 PM
Is it possible there could be a low end WiiU SKU which doesn't include the $80 tablet? This low end SKU could possibly hit the $249.99 price tag, and it could be the version marketed to casuals. Instead of the tablet it could come with a Wiimote and nothing else, but it should still be possible for the consumer to purchase a tablet separately later on. This would be the equivalent of the Xbox360 Arcade model.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on January 21, 2012, 08:29:18 PM
Ugh, without the tablet? That would splinter the market, and basically remove every reason for why Nintendo would make the new hardware from a creative standpoint to begin with.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on January 21, 2012, 09:02:28 PM
The tablet controller isn't driving the cost of the hardware up significanty. In terms of parts, it's pretty much the collective Wii controller with a magnetometer and a screen, the latter being the priciest piece. It currently costs Nintendo less than $10 (possibly less than $5 at this point) to make a Wii Remote Plus. The tablet controller will probably cost less than $30 to manufacture. The screen isn't state of the art technology. Like 3DS, it probably won't use Gorilla Glass.
More importantly, there's no point in having this new controller if it isn't packed with each console.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: alegoicoe on January 21, 2012, 09:17:16 PM
I predict Nintendo will anounce a new IP this year.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Luigi Dude on January 23, 2012, 04:15:49 PM
Here's my Wii U prediction for E3.
-New Super Mario Bros Mii is a real game now with HD visuals
-Pikmin 3 is finally shown
-Sequel to Donkey Kong Country Returns
-New Wii Sports game for the Wii U
-New Wii Fit for the Wii U as well
-A racing game from Monster, either a new game or a revival of an old Nintendo racing series.
-A new Wario Ware game taking full advantage of all the tablets features
-Monolith Softs Wii U title will be reveal(this is quite likely since they've already confirmed they're working on a Wii U game. http://andriasang.com/comwku/monolith_wiiu/ (http://andriasang.com/comwku/monolith_wiiu/))
-New game from Good Feel will also be shown
-Small CG trailer for next Smash Bros will be shown to give people an idea what the Wii U might look like but no gameplay since I doubt they'll have much done by E3 if Sakurai just finished Kid Icarus now.
For third parties it's not worth predicting anything specific since we know it's going to be port city. Basically any upcoming multiplatform game will get a Wii U port and that's about all I expect from them. Except for a few niche Japanese games that usually become exclusive to Nintendo platforms for a while.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Snake-Arms on January 29, 2012, 02:49:06 PM
I'll try to keep it as realistic as possible:
-No name change for the Wii-U but a redesign of the console itself (it looks far too similar to the Wii...and too much like an Apple product :yuck:) -Obviously, the complete details of the Nintendo Network -Given the boom in 3DS sales, I expect a slew of 3rd party announcements (Money hungry Activision is probably prepping some sort of CoD game) -A Pokemon MMO (I know, I know!) considering the new network being much more robust and the franchise just FREAKING BEGS for it to happen. -SSB wont be out until 2014, simultaneous launches on both platforms. -Pikmin will rape faces on launch day w/ online multiplayer to boot! -The new Miyamoto game will be a launch title as well
And what I wish will happen: -Retro is working on Star Fox for Wii-U (it's very possible) -New F-Zero once again developed in tandem with Sega -Nintendo announces it's first in-house developed FPS (I've always wanted their creative/whacky minds to make one) -Zelda Wii-U is well on it's way and will feature a MASSIVE game world, like an entire planet, instead of the limited scope of the land of Hyrule/Skyloft (still no voice acting)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Snake-Arms on January 29, 2012, 02:59:02 PM
Oh and I also expect a pre-black Friday launch with an MSRP of $349 USD. For Europe and Australia...you will continue to get reamed in the butt with higher prices. (just a hunch)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on January 29, 2012, 03:05:38 PM
I predict Iwata and Reggie will dress up as their favorite Pokemon, Squirtle vs. Psyduck, and beat the living **** out of each with foam bats and super soakers, confusing us yet exciting us to the point of giving the younger crowd their first boner. After Reggie lay twitching on the floor, Iwata will yell "I HAS POKEMON MASTER!" And then a video will play showing kids buying little NFC-enabled pokemon dolls and transferring them into their TouchU and playing what looks like a Pokemon MMO. The crowd will cheer. Fat ugly women will flash their boobies. Our very own NWR staff will fight each other for a better view, leaving one dead (Insanolord most likely since he's a rookie).
Little does everyone know, Nintendo just modded Skyrim to look cute and theirs no actual game in production.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2012, 03:10:31 PM
A lot of the predictions in this thread are making me excited about going to E3, but I'm less excited about the prospect of being killed in a riot at the press conference.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on January 29, 2012, 03:21:58 PM
Better start training, rookie.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2012, 04:03:49 PM
Actually, as it stands right now I don't think I'm going to be the newest staff member at E3, assuming everyone who's planning on going actually goes.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2012, 04:28:01 PM
Get me an E3 Press Pass. I will play Bodyguard.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tamazoid on January 29, 2012, 05:51:07 PM
I predict that the console will be released in a flame orange colour
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2012, 06:43:50 PM
The orange version will be shown but will never see official release in America.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on January 29, 2012, 06:46:49 PM
But the orange tablet controller will. ;)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on January 29, 2012, 08:01:25 PM
Vanquish 2 will be announced as a Wii U title for release some time in 2013.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Lithium on January 29, 2012, 10:56:23 PM
Nintendo will announce Mother 4 for WiiU to be release last tuesday along with remakes of Mother 1-3 for the n64DD. and then announce the vitality sensor for the WiiU along with the title "wii live", details will be scarce but it will be speculated that you win the game if you have a pulse. Nintendo announces that they bought all I.P rights from Sega and will make a sonic game that doesnt suck, along with a new jet set radio and shenmue. Production budget will be so big it would require everyone in the world to buy a wiiU to recoup costs. Nintendo will announce that they re-hired Cammie dunaway, she will then take the stage to demo a new casual title, "F-U". They will announce the "4DS" which it will grant you the ability to travel through time and space. Along with a new i.p: Nintendo allstars: xtreme beach volleyball directed by Tomonobu Itagaki.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2012, 04:05:42 AM
So, I am hoping that the Wii U is released sooner than later. November is too late for the Wii U. Mostly because it means to dry years of Wii. Hopefully, it will release around Summer time. April or May could be the earliest.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on January 30, 2012, 09:44:58 AM
I wouldn't hold your breath for that, Spak.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2012, 10:50:44 AM
So, I am hoping that the Wii U is released sooner than later. November is too late for the Wii U. Mostly because it means to dry years of Wii. Hopefully, it will release around Summer time. April or May could be the earliest.
Yeah, because the last thing the Wii needs is a lengthy software drought to ruin its stellar reputation of have a consistent, steady stream of solid releases.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Monteblanco on January 30, 2012, 02:40:28 PM
Reggie will open telling us how great the 3DS is performing and will show trailers from some games we already saw in TGS and, perhaps, a brand new Nintendo title.
The DS and Wii will be briefly mentioned and, perhaps, they will show The Last Story as a late summer release.
Iwata will follow revealing the final form and name of the Wii U. He will talk about some features, including that Nintendo hired Valve to create and run the network.
Reggie will be back with the games, including Pikimin, Wii U Play (bundled game to show off the novel features and some Wii Sports modes, such as baseball and golf), and Killer Freaks. He will invite Peter Moore to the stage and will demo how the Wii U allows two controllers, in which a player can select plays in Madden on the without the fear to be peeked. Finally, Miyamoto will go to stage to show a new Mario 3D game (EAD Tokyo has two teams, one recently finished 3D Land, I guess the other is working with the Wii U).
Iwata will be back to stage and announce price and release date.
Meanwhile, I'll be very happy at home watching the stream.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 30, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
So, I am hoping that the Wii U is released sooner than later. November is too late for the Wii U. Mostly because it means to dry years of Wii. Hopefully, it will release around Summer time. April or May could be the earliest.
Nintendo already confirmed it's not coming out until after E3, so April and May are out of the question. November is not that bad actually, and there will be games out on Wii (maybe not ones you like, but still games) until then. To me, September is the earliest it would happen.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 30, 2012, 08:57:35 PM
I guess. I just think the whole idea of launching right before Christmas is not a good strategy. To me Summer is a better strategy. Consoles almost always release with too few units to sell, and always have to play catch up for the second and third shipments. Releasing in the Summer (July or August or even September) would allow for the earlier adopters to buy the system first and build hype and media attention that can ride through the Christmas holiday season when shipments 2 and 3 are larger and all the possible bugs are worked out of the online system and everything is smoothed out. Then the casual and late adopters get in on the action for the big holiday season.
Sure Nintendo needs some Wii games for this year, and they will come out...but honestly, 3rd parties are either moving projects now to the Wii U or ignoring the Wii and just releasing 360 and PS3 games. Nintendo can't have enough games to fill the gap for basically another full year of Wii. They are in the middle of crucial year of game development for the 3DS and launching a new system which needs great state of the art launch games.
I just think Nintendo will be hurt more be becoming even more irrelevent as this year goes by, and developers are going to take note about how Nintendo handles this transition and will follow there lead...which has been so far...drop the Wii like the plague and prepare for the new, or in developers cases the currently popular.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on January 30, 2012, 10:07:44 PM
Nintendo will face shortages during the holiday season no matter what time of year they launch the console because they only have X amount of available consoles for the entire year since it takes months to increase/decrease output. When new hardware launches, quarterly projections and profits are greatly affected. Hardware typically launches during the holiday season because that's when the greatest number of consumers are willing to spend the most amount of money.
Launching during that time of year is the best strategy. Nintendo wants to have the most amount of units available for that time of year and launching earlier greatly reduces that number. They could theoretically pepper those sales over the course of several months by launching in June but they potentially lose out on a higher attach rate of games and peripherals. A man who couldn't find a Wii U for his kids in November may have bought 3 extra controllers and 4 games, but I got a unit in June and I'm only buying 1 game at launch and maybe 1 during the holiday rush.
In the launch date prediction thread which I'm too lazy to dig up at the moment, I guessed that Nintendo would launch in June for 2 reasons. First, the Wii is on borrowed time and 3DS is left to carry the load on its own. Second, I thought the hardware was further along than it actually was. If production on Wii U has started already, they could still make a June launch date but then Nintendo runs into the same problem with launch 3DS so early in the year: the lineup suffers. If there's even the slightest chance that Nintendo could launch Wii U with a Mario game, but it wouldn't be ready until November, they better damn well wait until November.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 30, 2012, 10:45:26 PM
No matter when they launch it I predict its going to sell out and suffer terrible shortages for months (if not years) to come. Let's not forget what happened with the Wii's launch in 2006. This is also a great opportunity for people to make some money by camping in line and then getting a system and then turning around and selling it on ebay for $1,000 to suckers. Why not get in on that?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on January 31, 2012, 12:11:56 AM
If the big jump in developer kits is true I don't they have have finished the production line for the Wii U yet. For June they would need to start production at some level soon.
I just don't think that they are at a point they can realistically do anything earlier then September.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2012, 12:33:13 AM
I guess. I just think the whole idea of launching right before Christmas is not a good strategy. To me Summer is a better strategy. Consoles almost always release with too few units to sell, and always have to play catch up for the second and third shipments. Releasing in the Summer (July or August or even September) would allow for the earlier adopters to buy the system first and build hype and media attention that can ride through the Christmas holiday season when shipments 2 and 3 are larger and all the possible bugs are worked out of the online system and everything is smoothed out. Then the casual and late adopters get in on the action for the big holiday season.
Sure Nintendo needs some Wii games for this year, and they will come out...but honestly, 3rd parties are either moving projects now to the Wii U or ignoring the Wii and just releasing 360 and PS3 games. Nintendo can't have enough games to fill the gap for basically another full year of Wii. They are in the middle of crucial year of game development for the 3DS and launching a new system which needs great state of the art launch games.
I just think Nintendo will be hurt more be becoming even more irrelevent as this year goes by, and developers are going to take note about how Nintendo handles this transition and will follow there lead...which has been so far...drop the Wii like the plague and prepare for the new, or in developers cases the currently popular.
I agree in the thought that Nintendo should launch Fall 2012 or sooner if possible. Early Launch benefits are +taking care of the Fanboys and Early Adopters +Initial wave of first tun production out the door +word of mouth HYPE building for Xmas season +Batch of initial launch games out the door including all the inevitable PS360 up-ports +Second batch of software to continue the HYPE comes out at Xmas +Xmas builds on already established userbase which looks extra good to 3rd parties +A solid test base to release the first OS/Online patch after early launch months before Xmas +After initial launch, putting out a 2 player uMote game with second uMote around XMas will generate lots of Hype and push early adopters to return to the store for more +PS Vita will never have a chance to get it's feet under it as it's crushed by Wii U from E3 on. +Did I mention getting the majority of those "late" PS360 ports out of the way? +Launching months before XMas means the Wii U could effectively have 2 launches in 2012. (1 in the late summer/early fall <Aug. launch?> and the other starting at Black Friday)
Pair that up with a back to school Wii U NFC McD/BK Wii U promotion using NFC toys for the kids and NFC cards for the teens/manchilds and Nintendo is well on their way to another record setting launch if handled correctly.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 31, 2012, 01:19:42 AM
It needs to get out as quickly as possible because the Wii is dead as a door knob and it looks bad for Nintendo that their current console is lifeless and they have nothing else going on outside of portables. As soon as the Wii U is launched Nintendo can literally kick the Wii to the curb, just as they've already metaphorically kicked it to the curb a couple years ago and then everyone can forget about it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 31, 2012, 01:26:20 AM
BnM: You basically restated my points just much better. I totally agree. Sooner is better...and with those PS3 and Xbox 360 ports out at launch the WiiU could have a nice launch lineup.
Pikmin, One other nintendo launched game.
Then November Nintendo can release Super Mario WiiU with 2nd WiiU mote. It can be a premium priced game with the add on $69.99-74.99...but it would be well worth it for the add on and multiplayer Mario action. Better yet if it was a Zelda and Link adventures, 4 Swords style game, that allowed for Zelda and Link to play together on an adventure. (Best date game ever)
Anyway, if the final development kit is out now and it includes the final boost in power...then it is completely plausible for a 6 month production schedule to gear up for an August/Septenber launch. With the next 3 months creating a units for the November markets.
If Nintendo is going to have multiplayer 2 person Wiimotes...which I think is likely. They need to get the user base installed for that ASAP. And with players already having Wiimote plus out...this could be a fairly cheap console for controllers. Most people will already have 4 nunchuks, 4 wiimote pluses, a Wiifit, a WiiU tablet packed in the console...and if one came with a big game like Mario a second.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 31, 2012, 02:06:38 AM
Nintendo's first party games have long legs and continue to sell quite well. Mario Kart Wii, New Super Mario Bros Wii and Wii Sports Resort are monsters that continue to sell. Hell, when they lowered the price of Mario Galaxy 1 it quickly sold another 1 million copies this last holiday and has now crossed the 10 million mark. Which goes to show the Wii itself can continue on just it's backlog of older games alone.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on January 31, 2012, 07:23:36 AM
I know the Wii has been moving along solely on the inertia of its existing library for years now, and that's only a good thing for Nintendo because it means they can rake in money without creating new games. But how is that a good thing from the perspective of fans? For new Wii owners, sure, there's a backlog of games to keep them entertained for awhile, but what about those who have had the Wii for a long time and played all there is to play? What else is there for us to look forward to?
That said, here is what I am predicting Reggie is going to unveil for the Wii at E3:
- Production on the regular Wii model will cease, and the gimped GC-less horizontal only model will be exclusively produced from here on out.
- The MSRP of the Wii will be dropped to $99.99 and there it will remain for the remainder of its life. This will match it with the price of the PS2 which is also still in production and selling steadily.
- Just as Sony with the PS2, Nintendo will continue to manufacture and sell the Wii for as long as people continue to buy it. This will probably be several years into the future.
- There may be one or two last hurrah games unveiled, but that will probably be it from Nintendo. They may also possibly release one or two more operation rainfall games, but if they do they would see a limited release with little or no marketing just like Xenoblade Chronicles.
- Possibly some new system colors.
- The Nintendo Selects budget lineup will be expanded to include more recent Wii hit titles, such as SMG2, NSMB, and DKCR, and eventually (not anytime soon) Zelda SS.
- 3rd parties will also continue to milk off the Wii's casual market with low budget low quality dance, fitness, carnival, etc. casual games. Whatever the final Wii game ends up being, it will probably end up being one of these.
That's about all I can predict happening with the Wii from here on out. Like I said, its not much for existing Wii owners to look forward to, but its still a cash cow that Nintendo can milk off of for the foreseeable future.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: lolmonade on January 31, 2012, 12:26:58 PM
- The Nintendo Selects budget lineup will be expanded to include more recent Wii hit titles, such as SMG2, NSMB, and DKCR, and eventually (not anytime soon) Zelda SS.
I would disagree with this issue. All are too recent (with the exception of Super Mario Galaxy) to have the Nintendo Selects $20.
I could see them doing one more run of Nintendo Selects Branding, maybe including Mario Party 8, DKCR, Kirby's Epic Yarn, and Super Mario Galaxy 2 once we get closer to Wii U launch, but I sincerely doubt they'll continue the Nintendo Selects price drops after Wii U, because they'll be focusing on getting rid of Wii game stock on store shelves to make room for Wii U.
I would expect them to heavily discount these games to $20-30 range to get them off shelves, but not to print more copies as Nintendo Selects.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on February 02, 2012, 08:09:50 PM
NSMBWii was released in the same year as Punch-Out!!, and that's on the Nintendo Selects line. I don't think it's an issue of being too recent, but rather, NSMBWii is still selling fine at the $50 price point, so there's no reason to drop the price just yet.
I don't see why Nintendo wouldn't continue selling their popular Wii games after the Wii U launches. Some of the PS2's Greatest Hits games, such as Final Fantasy and GTA, are still in print today, and I don't think those games interfered with the PS3. The Wii U can play Wii games, and unlike the PS3 it will have no issues playing them or have the feature removed, so there's no reason why Nintendo wouldn't want to continue selling them for years after the Wii U launches.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Shaymin on February 02, 2012, 08:20:07 PM
They did end up removing Gamecube back-compat from the Wii, but that was about 2 years after everyone who cared bought a Wii... and the Wii is a bit more central to the WiiU's experience.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on February 02, 2012, 08:23:36 PM
I know, but there's a big difference there: The Wii actually had some GameCube components in it that could be removed to save money. Plus, all GameCube games are long out of print, so Nintendo weren't selling GameCube games to anyone. Since the Wii U will use Wiimotes for Wii U games, and there are no physical ports for Wii stuff, there's nothing to remove from the Wii U to save on manufacturing costs.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 02, 2012, 10:06:39 PM
Well, let's not forget the recent Wii revision which stripped out the GC compatibility. There may one day be a Wii U revision which strips out Wii compatibility, but it would probably be years off near the end of its lifespan and with the WiiU2 on the horizon. So its not something we need to worry about any time soon, but it could happen.
ETA: Sorry, I wrote that before reading the other posts.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: famicomplicated on February 04, 2012, 04:07:28 AM
I worry for the day when the uMote+ comes out, clearer screen, better battery, better analogue sticks - $100 a pop!
Actually maybe I should delete this post, Nintendo might read it and get ideas.
*gulp*
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on February 04, 2012, 11:00:22 AM
idk, the wii being taken out of wii u seems less likely then gamecube being taken out of wii. Some games will require both wii u controller and wii mote. The system will be more powerful anyways, so it could always run wii software, even if it has to emulate I think the systems have relation to some degree so its going to be like running legacy dos programs on windows xp.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 04, 2012, 12:28:27 PM
There's another reason why companies provide backwards compatibility, and then later on take it away. Sure, it can often save on manufacturing costs when BC is removed, but another factor is that they want consumers to rebuy those old games on their download service.
I think that's why Sony never introduced software emulation of the PS2 on their PS3. Sure, the emotion chip cost money and taking it out helped reduce the enormous manufacturing costs of the PS3, but I don't buy that they couldn't do software emulation. The Xbox 360 does software emulation of the Xbox, so one would assume the more powerful PS3 should be able to emulate the much weaker PS2. Sony just didn't want to do it, because they want to make more money by selling HD remakes of games or PSN classics downloads. That's the real reason why it was taken out and then never added back.
Backwards compatibility does serve a useful purpose early on in a system's life, because it helps leverage the predecessor's software library to help migrate existing consumers over to the new hardware. But after a few years that purpose is achieved and then BC support shifts from being a benefit to being a problem.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on February 04, 2012, 05:22:23 PM
You make a good point, but keep in mind that spending money and cutting off a revenue stream is the kinda double whammy that Sony really doesn't need or has needed for some time now. It's not really a greed motive as your tone suggests.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on February 06, 2012, 12:26:02 AM
GDC is next month. Does anything cool ever get announced there? I forget.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: cubist on February 06, 2012, 12:30:24 AM
GDC is next month. Does anything cool ever get announced there? I forget.
Yes. Usually developers will let a couple tidbits slip in terms of working with the development kits...especially when media are digging for Wii U info.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 06, 2012, 12:34:34 AM
GDC is next month. Does anything cool ever get announced there? I forget.
Nintendo announced Super Mario 3D Land at it. I know more has happened, but that came to to top of my head.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 06, 2012, 01:06:16 AM
We'll get info on stuff coming before E3, like probably Luigi's Mansion 2, and maybe minor hints and teases about stuff that will be at E3.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on February 06, 2012, 02:27:39 AM
Nintendo has a pretty sizeable booth this year. Maybe we'll get more/new Wii U demos.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 06, 2012, 02:40:18 AM
Oh, I'm sure there will be a ton of Wii U demos. It seems like they're going to have a big blowout to start the hype train for its release. I can't wait to play Pikmin 3, and I'll be sure to let you all know whether it's the greatest game ever or merely the greatest game made so far.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on February 06, 2012, 01:21:20 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised if Nintendo allows developer an early hands on with some of the new demoes for Wii U on finalish hardware under an NDA at GDC .
Sort of here is an example of something cool. This is how easy we got that something cool to work.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2012, 09:54:56 PM
Nintendo's large booth is the same size as Crytek's, and Crytek and AMD are right next to Nintendo too. Something is cooking... smells like Time Splitters 4.
Also Sony has a really big booth too, larger than Nintendo, so I'm curious as to what they are up to.... I'm sure it has nothing to do with PS4 though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on February 06, 2012, 10:42:49 PM
They need to get dev's to Vita and the PS3 Still
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on February 06, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
You guys think more tech demos or some fleshed out game demos? I'm thinking maybe more complex tech demos with actual games being playable behind closed doors so that I'll never hear about it anyway.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 06, 2012, 11:04:26 PM
The system will be launching less than six months after the event; if there aren't real game demos there, and a lot of them, Nintendo fucked it up big time.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on February 07, 2012, 02:52:43 AM
Wasn't there Wii U game demos at E3 2011? I don't think there is any doubt there will be some this year, but the question is just how many. There better be a lot.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on February 07, 2012, 02:55:30 AM
There were tech demos that could be made in to a compilation game. But I think the only real game there was NSMBMii.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on February 07, 2012, 09:17:49 AM
GDC is primarily a Developer conference still. I think Nintentdo be more interested in showing what the Wii U can do and talking to developers on how you can achieve that in a way that is simpler then competing platform. Get into the tricky bits where people have been struggling. Flesh out how your game can use there online so you don't have to code one yourself. Stuff like that.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on February 27, 2012, 04:39:02 PM
The system will be launching less than six months after the event; if there aren't real game demos there, and a lot of them, Nintendo fucked it up big time.
You really think Nintendo would launch the Wii U without any real games? Remember when the Wii was first revealed at E3 2005? There weren't any real game demos shown, just tech demos. The good stuff didn't come until E3 2006.
It's the same situation with the Wii U. All the big games will be shown at E3 2012 and possibly at Nintendo's Fall conference. I guarantee NSMB Mii will be a real game, and Battle Mii / Chase Mii might be part of a launch compilation.
For a guy who runs a Nintendo fansite, you sure have a lot of pessimism and negativity regarding Nintendo.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 27, 2012, 06:07:56 PM
The system will be launching less than six months after the event; if there aren't real game demos there, and a lot of them, Nintendo fucked it up big time.
You really think Nintendo would launch the Wii U without any real games? Remember when the Wii was first revealed at E3 2005? There weren't any real game demos shown, just tech demos. The good stuff didn't come until E3 2006.
It's the same situation with the Wii U. All the big games will be shown at E3 2012 and possibly at Nintendo's Fall conference. I guarantee NSMB Mii will be a real game, and Battle Mii / Chase Mii might be part of a launch compilation.
For a guy who runs a Nintendo fansite, you sure have a lot of pessimism and negativity regarding Nintendo.
I believe that post was a response to someone arguing there might not be that kind of thing there, and that was meant as mocking the idea. There will of course be a lot of Wii U demos at E3, which was my point. I don't always quote the posts I respond to, so it can be easy to mistakenly take them out of context after the fact. I may be a little cynical about Nintendo at times, but I'm very optimistic about the Wii U, and am positively giddy about being able to go to E3 and check it all out.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 27, 2012, 09:14:24 PM
GDC is primarily a Developer conference still. I think Nintentdo be more interested in showing what the Wii U can do and talking to developers on how you can achieve that in a way that is simpler then competing platform. Get into the tricky bits where people have been struggling. Flesh out how your game can use there online so you don't have to code one yourself. Stuff like that.
True. though one of the best ways to do that is to show the developers first hand with your games...now most of this stuff will definitely go on behind close doors...but I will be greatly surprised if Nintendo doesn't have something juicy for the media to sink there teeth into at the conference. Nintendo needs any positive publicity right now, and I have a feeling there stockholders would throw a fit if Nintendo didn't show the media something worthwhile.
Personally if I was Nintendo, I would do everything I could to show developers they can reliably put mature, core gamer games on the Wii U because the Wii U will attract those gamers.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on March 01, 2012, 09:58:40 AM
A little over three months to go... That's pretty close and yet so far.
Anyway, I've got a few to throw into the pot now:
Wii U
- It will be priced at $299.99; you get the console, cords to power it up, one tablet, and a packet of manuals that puts the 3DS's to shame. You'll also get a pack-in game featuring all of the tech demos that were shown off at last year's E3; it will be called Wii U Play. - The big name launch title from Nintendo will be Pikmin 3 and it will receive high scores and praise from critics all around. For every hour that it's talked about on a gaming podcast, ten minutes will be spent talking about its strengths and the other fifty minutes will be spent talking about the faults, shortcomings, and annoyances that the hosts have with the game. - A lesser launch title from Nintendo will be New Super Mario Bros. Mii and it will go on to dominate the launch in a sales fashion similar to its predecessor. Given the recent 3DS games, it will feature the Tanooki Suit, replacing the Propeller Suit. - Big name third party titles including Resident Evil 6, Grand Theft Auto V, and more will be announced as launch window titles. - The slogan for the system will be the groan-inducing, "Wii would like to play with U."
3DS
- Given that Netfilx and Hulu Plus are either on the system or on the way, Nintendo will (mostly) complete the video viewing Triforce with the announcement of a YouTube app. - No announcement of a new model (as much as I've said so before) but we will be getting two or three new colors in time for Christmas. - A new 2-D action game is in the works, developed by Retro Studios who've been given the license again to fix the damage caused by Team Ninja. Tentative title is Super Metroid Returns. - We'll get a mention of the next Legend of Zelda game and a release date of some time next year; it will be developed internally. - Professor Layton and the Mask of Miracle in September, Luigi's Mansion 2 in October, Paper Mario in November, and Animal Crossing in December. - While giving us information on Pokemon Black 2 and White 2, which will release in September on DS, Reggie will go, "And Pokemon fans will be able to experience where it all began, with the release of Pokemon Red and Blue, which is available on the Nintendo eShop right now."
- The whole keynote will end with the slightest teaser trailer for the next Smash Bros. We'll see Mario, Link, Kirby, and Pikachu like last time with one or two new characters.
That's all I got for now. Let's see if I come back to this before the big show.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on March 01, 2012, 10:12:52 AM
- It will be priced at $299.99; you get the console, cords to power it up, one tablet, and a packet of manuals that puts the 3DS's to shame. You'll also get a pack-in game featuring all of the tech demos that were shown off at last year's E3; it will be called Wii U Play.
Nonsense. Why would Nintendo provide the power cords?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on March 01, 2012, 02:40:05 PM
I love pikmin, but I wonder if they need a re-design. They were designed for gamecube, and they had to cut corners. If they do something to change it, obviously they would have to stay cute, but maybe have fur or a new skin texture or something?
The same goes for Pokémon.....which yeah...Pokémon, maybe they'll make that great console version of Pokémon everyone wanted since 98? Actually, its kinda amazing how well Pokemon stadium has held up, im watching youtube vids.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on March 01, 2012, 02:48:01 PM
Pikmin with FUR?!?!?! @_@
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on March 01, 2012, 04:19:02 PM
maybe like a felt texture, idk. I went and looked up pikmin promotional art, and in the art they are much more matte
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on March 01, 2012, 04:58:38 PM
In Pikmin 2's art they look like they're made out of clay. They don't quite look that good on the Gamecube. There are too many jaggies and rough seams. Pikmin is a series that will really benefit from near photorealistic environments juxtaposed with cartoony looking creatures. They can make Pikmin 3 look really nice without changing the design of the Pikmin themselves.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on March 01, 2012, 06:19:09 PM
Perm, that's not a bad idea. But pikmin are plants, so you'd have to (or should anyway) keep them in the realm of plant textures; like those of an orange, tree, or cactus.
On a tangent note, I really hope there are ghost pikmin that can possess creatures.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 01, 2012, 06:25:57 PM
Well since Pikmin are supposed to be plants...I don't want fur. But if they go for a very artistic approach I think seeing Pikmin with a felt type texture could work. But honestly, I think they need to smooth out the design and keep them simple...basically the exact same as the original games. What I want the HD to be used for is high definition ultra realistic backgrounds and collectables, that is what made Pikmin cool and memorable to me.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 01, 2012, 08:18:01 PM
Perm, that's not a bad idea. But pikmin are plants, so you'd have to (or should anyway) keep them in the realm of plant textures; like those of an orange, tree, or cactus.
They are extraterrestrials. They can (and should) be as weird and bizarre as Miyamoto wants to make them. They don't need to be defined just by what we have on Earth, because they are not from Earth. That said, they could share the traits of plants with the furriness of mammals... or they could be given wings like birds or scales like reptiles or whatever. They could also be envisoned as floating bags of gas with tentacles as some alien life may be.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 01, 2012, 08:24:10 PM
The planet is Earth, or at least one that has the same atmosphere and look of Earth and (according to Miyamoto) one that humans used to live on. Not to mention that human products like 7-Up bottle caps and Duracell batteries exist on. Olimar himself is not from Earth though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 01, 2012, 08:37:59 PM
The planet is Earth, or at least one that has the same atmosphere and look of Earth and (according to Miyamoto) one that humans used to live on. Not to mention that human products like 7-Up bottle caps and Duracell batteries exist on. Olimar himself is not from Earth though.
I noticed that it is Earth like and there is a lot of litter that suggests humans are or were living there. But neither the Pikmin nor any of the creatures they fight are anything like what we have on Earth, so it has to be a different planet. But even if it is Earth, since the creatures are already bizarre and unearthly then there's no reason to not just go ahead and take it even further if Miyamoto wants to.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 01, 2012, 10:57:23 PM
Perm, that's not a bad idea. But pikmin are plants, so you'd have to (or should anyway) keep them in the realm of plant textures; like those of an orange, tree, or cactus.
They are extraterrestrials. They can (and should) be as weird and bizarre as Miyamoto wants to make them. They don't need to be defined just by what we have on Earth, because they are not from Earth. That said, they could share the traits of plants with the furriness of mammals... or they could be given wings like birds or scales like reptiles or whatever. They could also be envisoned as floating bags of gas with tentacles as some alien life may be.
This is true...I could see them using some minor texture work to create interesting animal-plant creatures. As long as the additional details help define the Pikmin and are not just added details to change Pikmin design.
For example, the Blue Pikmin can be given gills and scales to slightly look like fish. Immediately the player can see Blue means they can go in water. Yes, color helps but further character design makes it less of a gimmick.
I could see the red or yellow Pikmin having more animalistic features, to show there better combat ability...but I dunno how you can keep that up for all designs.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on March 02, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
My theory is that Pikmin takes place on Earth and the various creatures are actually real Earth creatures but we see them from Olimar's perspective so they look different than what we're used to. We would see a ladybug but Olimar sees a Bulborb.
It's kind of like the reality of Calvin & Hobbes where Calvin sees Hobbes as a real tiger and the rest of the world sees Hobbes as a stuffed animal. It doesn't actually make sense for it just be different perspectives or Calvin's imagination because he accomplishes things with Hobbes that we could not do without the help of another person. But it still works just like how Pikmin still works even if Olimar encounters bugs that don't quite seem to make sense from our perspective. I would prefer if Miyamoto never formally explained it and never showed any human beings. So is it Olimar's perspective or is this an Earth-like planet or is this Earth in the future after humanity has died off and evolution has created new lifeforms? It's better if we don't know the answer and just make our own guess.
I don't see any reason to drastically alter the appearance of the Pikmin. Do you want Mario to shave off his moustache as well? Pikmin is a franchise now and from a marketting perspective it wouldn't make sense to change the look.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 02, 2012, 01:35:11 PM
It's also possible that Pikmin is set in a post-apocalyptic future Earth, and that all the creatures involved are the product of mutations from the radiation.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on March 02, 2012, 01:53:39 PM
I'm personally a fan of the post-apocalyptic "after people" interpretation.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 02, 2012, 02:34:54 PM
It really is the simplest explanation for the game's world and its inhabitants. It also brings to the table a deep, profound, and almost certainly entirely unintentional message about life.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 02, 2012, 03:31:00 PM
It doesn't necessarily have to be a nuclear war that brings about the Pikmin world. It could have been an asteroid impact like what killed the dinosaurs, and then fast forward a few million years and evolution would have resulted in some really bizarre creatures. Mutations caused by radiation is a way you can explain some rapid changes in a short period of time, but millions of years worth of evolution can also do that. We don't know exactly when the game takes place. It could be far far into the future for all we know.
That said, maybe humans didn't become extinct after all. Maybe we just evolved into the Pikmin and live on as them? Or maybe the Pikmin were the result of some bizarre Island of Dr. Moreau type experiment involving people and vegetables which went awry and the Pikmin escaped and then wiped out their human creators. So it would kinda be like the Planet of the Apes, and Olimar might be a time traveling astronaut like Charlton Heston's character.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 02, 2012, 03:47:21 PM
Shorter time span makes more sense when you factor in all the product placement doodads in Pikmin 2, which wouldn't last the millions of years it would take for natural evolution.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on March 02, 2012, 03:56:38 PM
lol, who cares. Maybe Pikmin are just cryptids. It really doesn't matter. Maybe Humans escaped earth but visit occasionally and Duracell is just still going millions of years later as a brand. Or maybe they were making a fun game and they figured out product placement could pay for it. Pikmin is kinda phenomenon because it was well received from the beginning. Nintendo doesn't make new franchises that often, and this is one of those cases where it was HIT.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 02, 2012, 04:05:58 PM
The more I think about this, the more it seems like Nintendo is much better at telling stories when they're not actually trying to tell stories, which is one hell of a backhanded compliment.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on March 02, 2012, 05:10:01 PM
The more I think about this, the more it seems like Nintendo is much better at telling stories when they're not actually trying to tell stories, which is one hell of a backhanded compliment.
That's true. For example the Zelda "timeline" was a lot more satisfying when it was a bunch of fan theories. Once Nintendo actually started acknowledging it in their games the whole thing turned to crap. They would have been better off just starting every gen's Zelda as if it existed in a vacuum with some vague historical mythologies hinted at and a couple recurring locations and items.
In fiction everyone loves the mysterious untold backstory that is only vaguely referenced. The writer blows it the second an explanation is provided because it can never match what the audience had built up in their head. It takes an incredibly good writer to pay off something like that. When you don't you get the Star Wars prequels.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 02, 2012, 05:23:24 PM
Yeah, the Zelda timeline was a big part of what got me to that conclusion.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on March 02, 2012, 07:51:20 PM
... In fiction everyone loves the mysterious untold backstory that is only vaguely referenced. The writer blows it the second an explanation is provided because it can never match what the audience had built up in their head. It takes an incredibly good writer to pay off something like that. When you don't you get the Jar Jar Binks.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 03, 2012, 04:04:14 AM
Shorter time span makes more sense when you factor in all the product placement doodads in Pikmin 2, which wouldn't last the millions of years it would take for natural evolution.
Even if it was a nuclear apocalypse it would still take probably at least 100 years for the nuclear winter to end and animal life and vegetation to bounce back to the level we see in the Pikmin games, so that litter stuff probably would have rusted away or been buried.
I guess the only logical conclusion is that humans are currently present on that world, or were there recently and left or were killed. Considering the really bizarre and dangerous creatures you encounter in Pikmin I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 03, 2012, 05:42:37 AM
The more I think about this, the more it seems like Nintendo is much better at telling stories when they're not actually trying to tell stories, which is one hell of a backhanded compliment.
That's true. For example the Zelda "timeline" was a lot more satisfying when it was a bunch of fan theories. Once Nintendo actually started acknowledging it in their games the whole thing turned to crap. They would have been better off just starting every gen's Zelda as if it existed in a vacuum with some vague historical mythologies hinted at and a couple recurring locations and items.
In fiction everyone loves the mysterious untold backstory that is only vaguely referenced. The writer blows it the second an explanation is provided because it can never match what the audience had built up in their head. It takes an incredibly good writer to pay off something like that. When you don't you get the Star Wars prequels.
Actually, I always thought this is what Nintendo did...but then fans kept on demanding an official timeline. Nintendo never wanted to admit or tell one, because they didn't matter...each Zelda is a self contained story that might or might not hint at other events. I blame the fans for that mess.
Personally, I think mystery or mystique about a world and its history is good for a story. Star Wars was awesome commenting on the Clone Wars as a single line. People dreamed what could that have been like. Clones and War sound awful. However, then George Explained what the Clone Wars were and then they were not nearly as cool. Clones vs Robots isn't nearly as cool as what we dreamed.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 03, 2012, 10:14:51 AM
Nintendo shouldn't be doing things just because the fans say they want it. Most of Nintendo's greatest successes have come when they did their own thing, doing something unprecedented that no one had thought of. Look at things like Metroid Prime or Zelda: Wind Waker, where fans hated the idea initially, but they ended up being beloved classics. Of course, that doesn't mean you need to go against the grain all the time, but you need more reason than people saying they want it before you do it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ShyGuy on March 03, 2012, 01:01:27 PM
Maybe one of the monster's Olimar fights is a human, just distorted in his view. Olimar is a murdering alien invader!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 03, 2012, 01:05:06 PM
LOL, maybe. But Olimar is the size of a quarter, so that would be pretty hard.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on March 03, 2012, 01:27:32 PM
Shorter time span makes more sense when you factor in all the product placement doodads in Pikmin 2, which wouldn't last the millions of years it would take for natural evolution.
Even if it was a nuclear apocalypse it would still take probably at least 100 years for the nuclear winter to end and animal life and vegetation to bounce back to the level we see in the Pikmin games, so that litter stuff probably would have rusted away or been buried.
I guess the only logical conclusion is that humans are currently present on that world, or were there recently and left or were killed. Considering the really bizarre and dangerous creatures you encounter in Pikmin I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Well, it is said that Olimar can't breath the air on that planet right? Maybe that is a result of the nuclear apocalypse?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 03, 2012, 01:40:59 PM
Shorter time span makes more sense when you factor in all the product placement doodads in Pikmin 2, which wouldn't last the millions of years it would take for natural evolution.
Even if it was a nuclear apocalypse it would still take probably at least 100 years for the nuclear winter to end and animal life and vegetation to bounce back to the level we see in the Pikmin games, so that litter stuff probably would have rusted away or been buried.
I guess the only logical conclusion is that humans are currently present on that world, or were there recently and left or were killed. Considering the really bizarre and dangerous creatures you encounter in Pikmin I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Well, it is said that Olimar can't breath the air on that planet right? Maybe that is a result of the nuclear apocalypse?
The game said he can't breath because it's a oxygen atmosphere. This is right from the Instruction Booklet: "To make matters worse, my sensors indicated that the planet's atmosphere contained oxygen, an element incredibly deadly to my people."
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on March 03, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
Shorter time span makes more sense when you factor in all the product placement doodads in Pikmin 2, which wouldn't last the millions of years it would take for natural evolution.
Even if it was a nuclear apocalypse it would still take probably at least 100 years for the nuclear winter to end and animal life and vegetation to bounce back to the level we see in the Pikmin games, so that litter stuff probably would have rusted away or been buried.
I guess the only logical conclusion is that humans are currently present on that world, or were there recently and left or were killed. Considering the really bizarre and dangerous creatures you encounter in Pikmin I wouldn't be surprised if it was the latter.
Well, it is said that Olimar can't breath the air on that planet right? Maybe that is a result of the nuclear apocalypse?
The game said he can't breath because it's a oxygen atmosphere. This is right from the Instruction Booklet: "To make matters worse, my sensors indicated that the planet's atmosphere contained oxygen, an element incredibly deadly to my people."
Ah darn, well there goes that theory.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 03, 2012, 01:58:22 PM
Maybe the Pikmin are really ants or some kind of insect like that, and Olimar maybe inadvertently has been able to assume the role of an ant Queen and that's how he can control them. I think this makes the most sense. Of all the creatures which might appear in Miyamoto's garden ants are the ones which are the most like the Pikmin in terms of their behavior.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on March 03, 2012, 02:15:33 PM
Oh yeah Chozo, no question. I mean, after all, Pikmin is the game Miyamoto dreamed up while doing gardening. That man and his hobbies... *swoon*
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on March 03, 2012, 02:34:51 PM
My predictions for E3 2012: NINTENDO Wii U info blowout
Launch date announced
Price revealed ($300)
Full list of 3rd-party publishers revealed
New Super Mario Bros. Mii revealed as a launch title, includes a level editor and online/offline co-op
Zelda HD announced, teaser trailer shown; looks very similar to the tech demo from E3 2011
Pikmin 3 finally shown as a "launch window" title, Miyamoto plays demo on stage
Wave Race announced as a launch title, takes place on Wu-Hu Island, play as your Mii
Killer Freaks From Outer Space announced as a launch title, Ubisoft demos the game, Wii U exclusive
Dragon Quest X single player game demoed onstage
Mario Kart HD teaser trailer shown
Mii Maker app can be used completely on the tablet controller
Transfer Mii's between Wii U and 3DS
New IP "Quiz Mii" announced, use your Mii to compete in a series of trivia questions in a game-show format
Complete catalogue of WiiWare and Virtual Console games available on the Wii U Shop on day 1
Wii U has a "System Transfer" feature. You can transfer all your existing Wii data to the Wii U (WiiWare & Virtual Console games, save data, play time, etc.)
Nintendo says you can connect a 3DS to the Wii U as a secondary controller
Wii U Shop will have iOS-style apps that can be used on the tablet controller
Nintendo reveals concrete plans for Wii U online service
Partnership with EA, will use Origin framework
Single User ID, linked with Club Nintendo account
Friend Codes are "1 per console" (similar to the 3DS)
Type in a Friend Code, and the other person receives a "friend request" notification
Other person just has to select "Ok," and their friend list will automatically update with the sender's User ID
Matchmaking is similar to Xbox Live
Games support achievements, called "Accomplishments" (like on the 3DS Mii Plaza)
Accomplishments give you a Star Rating (similar to Xbox's Gamerscore and PS3's Trophy Level)
Voice chat and video chat using the tablet controller's camera and microphone
Wii U minigame compilation announced, not "Wii U Sports"
Minigame compilation includes the tech demos that were shown at E3 2011; available only on the Wii U Shop
Text chat built into the controller
Free drawing app available for download on Wii U Shop
Swapnote and Flipnote Studio are pre-installed on the Wii U
Wii U supports all Wii games and accessories (including Balance Board) out of the box
Nintendo Channel is back, and merged with the Wii U Shop
Users can rate games, recommend titles to other players, and complete Club Nintendo surveys in the Wii U Shop
3DS takes center stage
Luigi's Mansion 2 release date
Surprise announcement of a new Eternal Darkness, developed by Retro Studios
Redesigned 3DS announced, with a second built-in Circle Pad and a slightly wider body; the 3D screen and touch screen are larger
eShop receives a major redesign
Flipnote 3D announced
3DS Sound app updated, you can record up to 10 minutes of sound
New Super Mario Bros. 3D announced, with a level editor and 4-player co-op included
Metroid Prime 3D announced, with enhanced controls like gyroscope and/or touchscreen aiming
Teaser trailer for next Super Smash Bros., with a short video of Masahiro Sakurai announcing the game
SONY PS3
More PS Move games coming, mainly from Sony's 1st-party studios
Sorcery given a release date
Sports Champions 2 announced, includes the following sports: Bowling, baseball, street hockey, skydiving, curling, golf, jetski racing, dodgeball
New Jak and Daxter game revealed, includes PS Move support
Resident Evil 6 announced with PS Move aiming controls (very similar to Resident Evil 4 Wii)
PS Vita
More augmented reality games announced, available only on PlayStation Store
Firmware update adds PSone Classics and PS2 Classics support. If the user has PSone/PS2 games on their PS3 already, they can copy these games (and save data) directly to the Vita.
Update also adds a YouTube app and Flash support for video streaming, along with Netflix and Hulu
New MediEvil and JetMoto games announced for both Vita and PS3, include cross-platform play and save data sharing
Sony finally reveals their "Super Smash Bros." clone
Playable on both PS Vita and PS3, includes save data sharing
Roster includes characters from the following Sony-published games: Nathan Drake (Uncharted), Ratchet & Clank, Gabe Logan (Syphon Filter), Sweet Tooth (Twisted Metal), Wander (Shadow of the Colossus), The boy from Sorcery, LocoRoco, Patapon
Characters from third-party games: Snake & Revolver Ocelot (Metal Gear Solid - Konami), Crash & Dr. Neo Cortex (Crash Bandicoot - Activision), Spyro the Dragon (Activision), Sonic & Tails (Sonic series - Sega)
MICROSOFT Xbox 360
More Kinect games incoming
Silicon Knights reveals new hack-n-slash IP exclusively for Kinect, playable with Xbox 360 controller
Resident Evil 6 announced with exclusive Kinect functionality (voice commands, hand gestures, etc.)
Kinect software update announced, brings video & sound recording and editing
Xbox Next console teased
Basic specs and graphics capabilities shown in teaser trailer
Kinect is supported on day 1
Features enhanced Metro UI based on Windows 8
Microsoft calls it "A true hybrid of game system and media center"
Supports all Xbox Live Arcade games and Xbox 360 apps
Controller looks like a Dreamcast controller with a 5-inch screen
Controller has a Guide button, 2 analog sticks, a plus-shaped D-pad, colored A/B/X/Y buttons, L & R triggers, L & R bumpers
Black & White buttons return, located under the A/B/X/Y buttons
Halo 4 revealed as a launch title, story trailer shown
New Perfect Dark teased, includes Kinect functionality
Crytek's new IP with Microsoft is moved to the new Xbox, gameplay trailer shown
Games will be released on both disc and over Xbox Live on the same day
Digital versions of games will be slightly cheaper
MS vows to still support the 360, will release games on both platforms simultaneously
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on March 03, 2012, 02:46:17 PM
1 Friend Code per system?! How dare you?! We already know that nonsense is done away with outside of the 3DS.
I like the idea of wave race coming back and using Miis doesn't bother me. I just don't want them to take over the freaking game like Pilot Wings. Let it be a Mario Kart type option but not the only thing available.
All I really need is at least 1 non Mario Kart, multiplayer Nintendo game that has a great online set up. Wave Race, Mario Tennis, Smash Bros, F-Zero, Star Fox. Just one of those would make me very very happy, especially 30 player online F-Zero.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Snake-Arms on March 04, 2012, 08:48:29 AM
The Sony characters don't really lend themselves to be in a SSB style game. It's a unique game that should be left to Ninty characters. Shat Sony clones not welcome.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 04, 2012, 11:29:28 AM
The Sony characters don't really lend themselves to be in a SSB style game. It's a unique game that should be left to Ninty characters. Shat Sony clones not welcome.
I love that expression of your avatar.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2012, 12:53:40 PM
1 Friend Code per system?! How dare you?! We already know that nonsense is done away with outside of the 3DS.
He also didn't believe me about RE6 coming to Wii U (even if the info was a little unreliable, it still makes sense)
I also don't see a 3DS redesign being announced when the system is selling great and has lots of colors and bundles coming up. no redesign until next year at the earliest.
But other than those three things, that prediction and the one from FzeroBoyo a few pages ago seem pretty reasonable to me.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 04, 2012, 05:59:16 PM
One thing that seems to be on everybody's list that I seriously doubt we'll get is an actual launch date and price. When has Nintendo ever given that info at E3? The Wii, DS and 3DS launch date and price were all announced well after their big E3 blowout.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Snake-Arms on March 04, 2012, 06:57:37 PM
The Sony characters don't really lend themselves to be in a SSB style game. It's a unique game that should be left to Ninty characters. Shat Sony clones not welcome.
I love that expression of your avatar.
It's actually from that YouTube message when you try to view a video that is not available in your country.
It's also shockingly similar to my sex face.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2012, 08:37:43 PM
One thing that seems to be on everybody's list that I seriously doubt we'll get is an actual launch date and price. When has Nintendo ever given that info at E3? The Wii, DS and 3DS launch date and price were all announced well after their big E3 blowout.
I thought about also crossing Price off the list, but it's rumored to be coming out in the summer some time not too long after E3, so E3 might be the only big event to name that date and price before launch.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 05, 2012, 12:58:09 AM
I don't believe we will get a price. That isn't as important as the date. However, I do believe we will get a date it it will be released before Nov. That is a big caveat, though. If it will not be released in the summer then it gives Nintendo time to do a nice press conference in August or September to build hype for the launch. Invite the media to play finished versions of the launch games, with 3rd party representatives on had with there games...
However, I think E3 is the perfect time to announce date if it is happening sooner than fall. Then Nintendo can still have a press conference for launching with price and launch titles announced.
I also do not expect details about Wii file transfer or anything like that...launch specific details are much better news stories for after E3.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: the asylum on March 07, 2012, 11:04:25 PM
As I've said many times past, just give me at least a passing mention of new F-Zero and I'm a happy boy
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 08, 2012, 12:26:24 AM
Actually F-Zero in HD would be an awesome game. I think if Nintendo could get HD graphics with 60 frames a second with 30 Cars on screen at a same time, and online play with up to 10 players that would be an amazing feat. If they got 12 players even better.
The Touch Screen could be used for a very easy to use Track editor. I think this game is obviously made of win, and would be a great game for a team like Retro to revive.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on March 08, 2012, 12:43:17 AM
I wouldn't want any less than 30 racers, in fact it would ridiculous to have anything less because you can take other racers out. And anything less than 60fps would be unacceptable as well, the GameCube did it.
God, I want a new F-Zero. GX is virtually the perfect racing game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on March 08, 2012, 02:09:06 AM
Do any racing games online have 30+ human racers, or am I being naive again thinking it is something that is easily possible?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: King of Twitch on March 08, 2012, 02:29:38 AM
I wouldn't want any less than 30 racers, in fact it would ridiculous to have anything less because you can take other racers out. And anything less than 60fps would be unacceptable as well, the GameCube did it.
God, I want a new F-Zero. GX is virtually the perfect racing game.
Ew, get a room you two.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Louieturkey on March 08, 2012, 12:01:56 PM
Do any racing games online have 30+ human racers, or am I being naive again thinking it is something that is easily possible?
Most online games do not have this many (outside of FPS games). I think 12-16 is easily doable though and If they work it out properly, I bet they could even get 24 without much problem.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 08, 2012, 03:53:50 PM
Sorcery already has a release date: May 22. Just sayin'
Hey, you really did predict the future! :Q [/list]
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 04, 2012, 02:20:59 AM
Nintendo E3 Conference Expectations
(The crowd's talk is reduced to a murmur as Reggie walks out on stage. A smattering of applause. Reggie takes a pause and looks off to the left before opening his mouth.)
"Well, folks. Here we are. I know most of you think that we're trying to compete with the other consoles out there, but you couldn't be further from the truth. We can't compete with the other consoles because there's no competition for what Nintendo does. We innovate. We make quality games. However, we're going to bring ourselves up to date with your current expectations. Case in point: The Nintendo Network."
(Goes on to explain this, crowd is mildly interested.)
"So the 3DS, huh? It's a pretty damn nice system. Oh, did I not mention that those games we teased last year are getting released soon?"
(Luigi's Mansion 2, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, etc. given release dates.)
"Oh, and we're making a new Mario title, too. Don't worry, this one won't suck like 3D Land. Because it's in 2D."
(Mario Bros. 3DS shown)
"Speaking of franchises you love, why not have some Metroid? Yeah, that's nice, isn't it?"
(Since everyone seems to believe we're getting a Metroid game, I might as well hop on the bangwagon.)
"Oh, and blah blah blah other crap. Hey, do you remember that system we sold for six years and destroyed our competition with? Yeah, it's dying. But not before the Last Story and Pandora's Tower are released, I guess."
(Crowd is antsy.)
"Now, for the real reason you're here: The Wii U."
(Pretty promo vid that is both annoying and exciting in premise.)
"This bitch is coming out soon. For like, 300 dollars. And guess what? We're gonna have an app store, some nice online capabilities, and- some games. What games, do you ask?"
(Crowd is at the edge of their seats.)
"PUSHMO."
(We are treated to a gritty, modern-warfare-esque rendition of the game, with a serious plot and blood and gore. Tagline, "When they trapped the children... they pushed me too far.")
"DILLON'S ROLLING WESTERN."
(Hyper-stylized, ultra-violent version of the original. Considered a port.)
"AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST. SUPER PRINCESS PEACH."
(Epic, Galaxy-scale platforming and music presented, Princess Peach duels Daisy for the first time. The crowd is on their feet.)
"Blowjobs will be given by our showgirls after the presentation is finished."
(Reggie drops his mic, leaves the stage. The crowd is going wild, unsure if the presentation is over. When suddenly, Sakurai appears on the projector.)
"When thinking about how to revolutionize the Smash Bros. Experience, I came to one conclusion. EVERY CHARACTER MUST HAVE A MOVESET SIMILAR TO STAR FOX."
(The crowd dies in a state of euphoria.)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on April 04, 2012, 02:27:46 AM
Pushmo and Dillon's Rolling Westerns getting super steroid induced would be amazing and terrifying at the same time.
Also, LANDMASTERS FOR EVERYONE!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on April 04, 2012, 10:36:06 PM
Wait, I'll do you one better. What if instead of the port, the sequel that was "announced" in the first game is revealed as a Wii U eShop game: Dillon's Rolling Western 2: The Last Ranger.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 09, 2012, 12:14:45 AM
(The crowd's talk is reduced to a murmur as Reggie walks out on stage. A smattering of applause. Reggie takes a pause and looks off to the left before opening his mouth.)
"Well, folks. Here we are. I know most of you think that we're trying to compete with the other consoles out there, but you couldn't be further from the truth. We can't compete with the other consoles because there's no competition for what Nintendo does. We innovate. We make quality games. However, we're going to bring ourselves up to date with your current expectations. Case in point: The Nintendo Network."
(Goes on to explain this, crowd is mildly interested.)
"So the 3DS, huh? It's a pretty damn nice system. Oh, did I not mention that those games we teased last year are getting released soon?"
(Luigi's Mansion 2, Paper Mario, Animal Crossing, etc. given release dates.)
"Oh, and we're making a new Mario title, too. Don't worry, this one won't suck like 3D Land. Because it's in 2D."
(Mario Bros. 3DS shown)
"Speaking of franchises you love, why not have some Metroid? Yeah, that's nice, isn't it?"
(Since everyone seems to believe we're getting a Metroid game, I might as well hop on the bangwagon.)
"Oh, and blah blah blah other crap. Hey, do you remember that system we sold for six years and destroyed our competition with? Yeah, it's dying. But not before the Last Story and Pandora's Tower are released, I guess." The Last Story was given to Xseed. Nintendo of America was too lazy to publish their own game in the US.
(Crowd is antsy.)
"Now, for the real reason you're here: The Wii U."
(Pretty promo vid that is both annoying and exciting in premise.)
"This bitch is coming out soon. For like, 300 dollars. And guess what? We're gonna have an app store, some nice online capabilities, and- some games. What games, do you ask?"
(Crowd is at the edge of their seats.)
"PUSHMO."
(We are treated to a gritty, modern-warfare-esque rendition of the game, with a serious plot and blood and gore. Tagline, "When they trapped the children... they pushed me too far.")
"DILLON'S ROLLING WESTERN."
(Hyper-stylized, ultra-violent version of the original. Considered a port.)
"AND LAST, BUT NOT LEAST. SUPER PRINCESS PEACH."
(Epic, Galaxy-scale platforming and music presented, Princess Peach duels Daisy for the first time. The crowd is on their feet.)
"Blowjobs will be given by our showgirls after the presentation is finished."
(Reggie drops his mic, leaves the stage. The crowd is going wild, unsure if the presentation is over. When suddenly, Sakurai appears on the projector.)
"When thinking about how to revolutionize the Smash Bros. Experience, I came to one conclusion. EVERY CHARACTER MUST HAVE A MOVESET SIMILAR TO STAR FOX."
(The crowd dies in a state of euphoria.)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrianwii on April 13, 2012, 01:39:08 AM
My Predictions:
Wii U:
New 3D Mario Game (Coming 2013) New Metroid Game from Retro Studios (Coming 2013) New Zelda Game (Coming 2013) New "Racing" game from Nintendo (Launch Title) New Super Mario Bros. Wii U (Launch Title) F-Zero (Launch Title) Star Fox (Launch Title) Dragon Quest X Localization (Launch Title) Apps for Wii U Pikmin 2 (Launch Title) 3rd Party Games Wii U Sports (Launch Title) Wii U Play (Launch Title) Wii U Fit (Launch Title) Price at $300 Release: November 2012
Nintendo 3DS:
Luigi's Mansion 2 (October 2012) Animal Crossing 3DS (September 2012) Paper Mario 3DS (July 2012) New 2D Mario Game (November 2012) Mario Party 3DS (November 2012) Monster Hunter Tri (November 2012) Fire Emblem 3DS (October 2012) The Legend of Zelda 3DS (2013) New Pokemon Game (2013) Mario Vs. Donkey Kong 3D (December 2012) Mario Golf 3D (September 2012) Donkey Kong 3DS (2013)
Wii:
Pandora's Tower (October 2012) Dragon Quest X (November 2012) Mario Tennis (September 2012) Mario Golf (September 2012) Wii Party 2 (October 2012) Wii Music 2 (November 2012)
Nintendo DS:
Pokemon Black and White 2 (September 2012)
Nintendo ends up as the best presentation in E3 2012. Reggie talks about 3DS, Iwata talks about Wii U and Miyamoto demos either Pikmin 2 or the New 3D Mario Wii U Game or New Super Mario Bros. Wii U
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2012, 01:41:37 AM
Ubisoft has made their presentation time known.
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Ubisoft's E3 media briefing is June 4 at 3PM PST.
https://twitter.com/#!/jimreilly
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 13, 2012, 01:46:12 AM
Adrianwii, I think you are being a little too ambitious when it comes to launch games. The SNES, N64, GCN, and Wii all launched with just 2 games from Nintendo. So I don't see them bucking that trend and having 5 for Wii U. And as much as I love Zelda, I don't see a new one (especially on a brand new system) coming out only 2 years after the last one.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 13, 2012, 01:59:31 AM
Overly ambitious launch titles. I am going to go crazy and I am going to say Nintendo will have 3-4 launch titles available. Which will be a lot for Nintendo.
F-Zero (Retro Studios Project) Once we see it we will forget the Sega F-Zero existed...it will be awesome.
New Super Mario Bros U will be a bridge game. Catering to both casual and traditional gamers. It will focus on having Retro Mario appeal like Super Mario 3DS did...however, it will focus more on merging traditional Mario game play with some elements of Mario 2.
Pikmin 2 this will be the launch game to get...and will be the game pushed for traditional gamers. It will have online play...and have a kind of 4 player verse mode with Pikmin. It won't be about fighting but collecting objects faster...although there will be Pikmin combat.
Last is some WiiU play game. This will come packed with a Wiimote+ and nunchuk+ which will debut with the Wii U, and will focus on 2-4 player party games. The players with this game will immediately be able to play 3 player games, but will be drawn to buy a 3rd controller to play 4 player matches.
Finally, a WiiU bundled game will be in the package which will be fleshed out demos that are going to be shown at this E3 along with the launch games.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caliban on April 13, 2012, 10:29:43 AM
It will only be worth to follow it if Nintendo either had their conference before, or Nintendo allows Ubisoft to show off their Wii U stuff. I bet on Ubisoft conference sucking because they couldn't show anything related to Wii U.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 13, 2012, 11:17:54 AM
I refuse to believe that an F-Zero game will be announced, especially with Miyamoto talkign about how they haven't even thought about it yet.
Star Fox is the best bet for Retro's new game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Louieturkey on April 13, 2012, 04:01:37 PM
Pikmin 3, not 2, is coming to Wii U. Pikmin 2 came out for the GC years ago and was ported to the Wii.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on April 13, 2012, 08:28:55 PM
My biggest E3 2012 prediction: Star Fox developed for the Wii U by Retro Studios.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 13, 2012, 11:52:11 PM
I meant three...typo I was at work.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 13, 2012, 11:53:04 PM
I refuse to believe that an F-Zero game will be announced, especially with Miyamoto talkign about how they haven't even thought about it yet.
Star Fox is the best bet for Retro's new game.
Nintendo has surprised us plenty of times before with unannounced games.
- Kirby's Return to Dreamland (previously known to have been cancelled for the GameCube) - Kirby's Epic Yarn (came out of nowhere) - Donkey Kong Country Returns (no one expected Retro to revive Rare's greatest series) - Metroid Prime (a 3D Metroid game in first-person was a huge shock back then) - Metroid Other M (Nintendo teaming up with Team Ninja was a big surprise)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 05:35:24 PM
Retro's next game (for Wii U) will either be:
StarFox (a direct sequel to StarFox 64, with exploration segments similar to StareFox Adventures)
Metroid Prime HD (a re-imagining of the original Metroid Prime, with some entirely new areas and bosses)
F-Zero WX (a direct sequel to F-Zero GX, with a mix of brand new & re-imagined tracks, online multiplayer, and updated music)
I have a feeling that Wii U games will feature some sort of Achievement system. 3rd-party developers love that stuff, so it's only logical that they request Nintendo to use them. If Nintendo does use Achievements, it should be on a system level, not a game by game basis.
And if Nintendo decides to use Friend Codes, they should have a one code per system, just like the 3DS. Also, the ability to add friend requests and game invites.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 15, 2012, 07:10:35 PM
Except that Miyamoto has talked about them not even thinking about it yet.
I dunno, that's just what really throws me off.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 07:14:00 PM
Except that Miyamoto has talked about them not even thinking about it yet.
I dunno, that's just what really throws me off.
You really expect Miyamoto to just come out and say "yup, we have a new F-Zero coming out" ( はい、我々は出てくる F-ZERO 新を持っている ) just a couple months before E3? Nintendo is known to be highly secretive, and they always wait for E3 to announce their biggest games. Miyamoto could just be playing coy with us.
That's why we don't know about any games releasing for the rest of the year. Nintendo hasn't announced anything yet, and they won't until E3. Gotta save some surprises for the show, right?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 15, 2012, 07:19:34 PM
Except that Miyamoto has talked about them not even thinking about it yet.
I dunno, that's just what really throws me off.
You really expect Miyamoto to just come out and say "yup, we have a new F-Zero coming out" ( はい、我々は出てくる F-ZERO 新を持っている ) just a couple months before E3? Nintendo is known to be highly secretive, and they always wait for E3 to announce their biggest games. Miyamoto could just be playing coy with us.
That's why we don't know about any games releasing for the rest of the year. Nintendo hasn't announced anything yet, and they won't until E3. Gotta save some surprises for the show, right?
Ehhhhhhh... yeah, you got me there.
I just want some awesome E3 reveals. Nintendo really knows how to get my blood boiling- they certainly have over the past three years, anyway.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2012, 07:43:22 PM
Quote from: My Nintendo News
Miyamoto was also asked by the publication why Nintendo hasn’t created a new game in the F-Zero franchise. Miyamoto claims that it wouldn’t be surprising enough on current hardware, but the Wii U could be the perfect fit.
“I think at the time it was a really big surprise, a new thing, a product that made sense,” he said. “I don’t see with current hardware how you could create a similar surprise.
“But maybe with future hardware, with Wii U coming up, maybe we could create something that does make sense, either as a smaller game, or a fully fledged title.”
Miyamoto was also asked by the publication why Nintendo hasn’t created a new game in the F-Zero franchise. Miyamoto claims that it wouldn’t be surprising enough on current hardware, but the Wii U could be the perfect fit.
“I think at the time it was a really big surprise, a new thing, a product that made sense,” he said. “I don’t see with current hardware how you could create a similar surprise.
“But maybe with future hardware, with Wii U coming up, maybe we could create something that does make sense, either as a smaller game, or a fully fledged title.”
He's basically saying they're not working on it instead of giving the usual non-answer that allows one to speculate.
Is Miyamoto that oblivious to the world of gaming outside of Nintendo? He doesn't see how F-Zero could work on current hardware? I'm guessing he hasn't heard of the WipeOut series. There was an F-Zero game on the GameCube, which is a bit less powerful than the current Wii. If F-Zero could work on the GameCube (and even N64) then it can work on the current Wii.
As for his Wii U comment, it doesn't really make sense. The Wii U is Nintendo's first HD console, so he's basically saying a new F-Zero will only work if it's in HD? I guess the F-Zero games on N64, GameCube, and GBA don't count then.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2012, 08:22:41 PM
Cool your jets, buster brown. What he's saying is that he couldn't do anything surprising with the current hardware. An F-Zero game for Wii wouldn't surprise anyone with what it could do other than the fact that it existed. However, with the Wii U, he's saying he might be able to find some way to surprise fans of the series. It could be graphics, game play, whatever but Miyamoto wants to surprise us and doesn't think he can (at least not with F-Zero) right now.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 08:27:44 PM
Cool your jets, buster brown. What he's saying is that he couldn't do anything surprising with the current hardware. An F-Zero game for Wii wouldn't surprise anyone with what it could do other than the fact that it existed. However, with the Wii U, he's saying he might be able to find some way to surprise fans of the series. It could be graphics, game play, whatever but Miyamoto wants to surprise us and doesn't think he can (at least not with F-Zero) right now.
If he wants to surprise people with the F-Zero franchise, then the GBA games shouldn't have been made. They were nothing more than glorified SNES games on a handheld.
And I can think of plenty of ways to make F-Zero on the current Wii work. Online racing, motion-controlled steering, downloadable tracks and cars, online leaderboards, downloadable time trial ghosts, etc.
Hell, they put Mario Kart on every system imaginable, so why can't they give F-Zero some more love? They put the N64 F-Zero game on the VC, and Captain Falcon in Smash Bros. Brawl, for crying out loud. What a cocktease that was.
The only thing F-Zero needs is good graphics, a sense of speed, and good music. Online racing and leaderboards would be a nice bonus as well.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2012, 08:36:30 PM
Well, that's what the GBA was capable of. Besides, it may not have been Miyamoto's call to make those games, and his priorities are probably different from what they were. If he's gonna dust off F-Zero, he's gonna do something surprising with it. Until he or some one else figures out what that is, we shall just wait.
Saw you edited your post. Adding "check list features" isn't his style. It's not about making it work, it's about adding that element of surprise. And motion controls might not be responsive enough for F-Zero.
About Mario Kart, it sells. That's all there is to it. It's fun, people like it and it sells. They aren't gonna shake that formula up too much because they don't have to. F-Zero doesn't have the luxury of producing Mario Kart numbers.
Also, Captain Falcon is a key character in the Smash Bros series. He was in the first one! Lucas was in Brawl, and Mother 3 is NEVER coming to the US. How's that for a cock tease?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 15, 2012, 08:42:14 PM
Cool your jets, buster brown. What he's saying is that he couldn't do anything surprising with the current hardware. An F-Zero game for Wii wouldn't surprise anyone with what it could do other than the fact that it existed. However, with the Wii U, he's saying he might be able to find some way to surprise fans of the series. It could be graphics, game play, whatever but Miyamoto wants to surprise us and doesn't think he can (at least not with F-Zero) right now.
If he wants to surprise people with the F-Zero franchise, then the GBA games shouldn't have been made. They were nothing more than glorified SNES games on a handheld.
And I can think of plenty of ways to make F-Zero on the current Wii work. Online racing, motion-controlled steering, downloadable tracks and cars, online leaderboards, downloadable time trial ghosts, etc.
Hell, they put Mario Kart on every system imaginable, so why can't they give F-Zero some more love? They put the N64 F-Zero game on the VC, and Captain Falcon in Smash Bros. Brawl, for crying out loud. What a cocktease that was.
The only thing F-Zero needs is good graphics, a sense of speed, and good music. Online racing and leaderboards would be a nice bonus as well.
F-Zero on the GBA was "surprising" or necessary in a sense because it was the first hand held F-Zero.
Mario Kart is the once a generation per system cash cow. F-Zero stands no where close to the importance of Mario Kart.
What Miyamoto is saying about F-Zero applies directly to Star Fox and Mario Tennis as well. On the N64 Nintendo did all they could with SF64, after that no wonder they pawned it off to everyone else. Now maybe with better hardware the possibilities are greater. Motion certainly wasn't going to do anything for f-zero, barely did anything for mario tennis either. Thats why we got new play control instead of a brand new game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 08:43:09 PM
Well, that's what the GBA was capable of. Besides, it may not have been Miyamoto's call to make those games, and his priorities are probably different from what they were. If he's gonna dust off F-Zero, he's gonna do something surprising with it. Until he or some one else figures out what that is, we shall just wait.
Online racing, online leaderboards, downloadable cars and tracks, downloadable time trial ghost data, etc. All of that could be done on the current Wii. The only things the Wii U can improve upon are a more stable online network and HD graphics.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 08:46:07 PM
Cool your jets, buster brown. What he's saying is that he couldn't do anything surprising with the current hardware. An F-Zero game for Wii wouldn't surprise anyone with what it could do other than the fact that it existed. However, with the Wii U, he's saying he might be able to find some way to surprise fans of the series. It could be graphics, game play, whatever but Miyamoto wants to surprise us and doesn't think he can (at least not with F-Zero) right now.
If he wants to surprise people with the F-Zero franchise, then the GBA games shouldn't have been made. They were nothing more than glorified SNES games on a handheld.
And I can think of plenty of ways to make F-Zero on the current Wii work. Online racing, motion-controlled steering, downloadable tracks and cars, online leaderboards, downloadable time trial ghosts, etc.
Hell, they put Mario Kart on every system imaginable, so why can't they give F-Zero some more love? They put the N64 F-Zero game on the VC, and Captain Falcon in Smash Bros. Brawl, for crying out loud. What a cocktease that was.
The only thing F-Zero needs is good graphics, a sense of speed, and good music. Online racing and leaderboards would be a nice bonus as well.
F-Zero on the GBA was "surprising" or necessary in a sense because it was the first hand held F-Zero.
Mario Kart is the once a generation per system cash cow. F-Zero stands no where close to the importance of Mario Kart.
What Miyamoto is saying about F-Zero applies directly to Star Fox and Mario Tennis as well. On the N64 Nintendo did all they could with SF64, after that no wonder they pawned it off to everyone else. Now maybe with better hardware the possibilities are greater. Motion certainly wasn't going to do anything for f-zero, barely did anything for mario tennis either. Thats why we got new play control instead of a brand new game.
Motion controls fit well with tennis, see Wii Sports and WS Resort for examples. The "New Play Control" games were just a quick way for Nintendo to make some extra money by porting GameCube games to the Wii with motion controls tacked on. And if motion controls weren't a good fit for Mario Tennis, they never would have ported the game to the Wii in the first place.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 15, 2012, 08:50:13 PM
Motion controls fit well with Tennis. Mario Tennis is a different beast. They couldn't do it great, so a cheap port was the way to go. And yeah, DLC and online play could be done on the Wii, but that's not what's gonna motivate Miyamoto to make a new F-Zero game not matter how much you think it will.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 15, 2012, 08:57:48 PM
It wasn't even motion plus controls, if they really had a great ambitions for Mario tennis we would have seen it. With better hardware now ideas that were once impossible are now conceivable. That's just how Nintendo makes their games. Unless of course it is a major cash cow that must be released every generation.
W-Zero would have been literally GX with online, and probably worse graphics.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 15, 2012, 09:26:03 PM
It wasn't even motion plus controls, if they really had a great ambitions for Mario tennis we would have seen it. With better hardware now ideas that were once impossible are now conceivable. That's just how Nintendo makes their games. Unless of course it is a major cash cow that must be released every generation.
W-Zero would have been literally GX with online, and probably worse graphics.
Explain how F-Zero on the Wii would have had worse graphics than GX. I hate how people somehow think the Wii is less poweful than a GameCube. Could the GameCube produce graphics on par with Mario Galaxy or Metroid Prime 3?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 15, 2012, 09:41:30 PM
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Blitzace10 on April 15, 2012, 11:02:06 PM
OMG IF retro Does the next Star Fox then I don't care what else happens
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 15, 2012, 11:03:13 PM
I'd still rather they make a Mario game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 16, 2012, 01:14:22 AM
I think Mario is in great hands. For me Star Fox, F-Zero, and even Zelda could use a western approach.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 16, 2012, 02:49:50 AM
The only team I want to touch Mario is the team that did the 2D Wario game...that would be a sweet dream come true.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: MagicCow64 on April 16, 2012, 09:59:51 AM
Forgive me if this has already been posited, but what if Retro is making Donkey Kong Racing?
They just did Donkey Kong Country Returns and worked on Mario Kart 7 in short order; are they going to mix that chocolate and peanut butter together?
This is probably highly unlikely, but I was excited for the original canceled Rare project, and I think Retro could pull off something awesome.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 16, 2012, 10:41:17 AM
Retro Studios should really only work on major projects that Nintendo intends to carry an entire holiday season. Games like Star Fox and F-Zero game don't really fit the bill. No matter how good Retro Studios could make those games, they're never going to be relied on a system sellers. Star Fox and F-Zero are among Nintendo's second tier IPs and they're going to stay that way. Why use arguably their best development team on them? I suppose it's possible but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense. There's a reason why EAD doesn't develop Star Fox games anymore, outside of contributing. The team has more important projects to work on. Same goes for Retro Studios.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 16, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
To be fair, Metroid can't carry a holiday season and they did three of those.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 16, 2012, 01:41:30 PM
The first 2 Metroid Prime games were released in November. Nintendo intended for them to be their big holiday titles.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 16, 2012, 01:51:25 PM
The first I'll give you. The second was most likely because they had nothing else even close to able to do it that year (Pikmin 2 and Jungle Beat are phenomenal games, but didn't have as much sales potential). Corruption and Other M were bumped back to the August slot. Metroid is a critical darling and a generally high quality series, but it isn't likely to do a great job of appealing to the mainstream.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on April 16, 2012, 02:03:46 PM
Metroid is the poster child of a game that is on a well rounded system. There are enough people who really like it to justify its existance, but it will never be a generally loved game like Bejeweled. Its something that add the Breadth your system needs as a form of entertainment.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 16, 2012, 02:07:28 PM
I'm not arguing whether Metroid can carry a holiday season. Rather, Nintendo tried twice and probably decided that it can't after Echoes failed to make a real difference. I'm glad they let Retro Studios finish the Prime series (I'd have a hard time imagining another developer finishing it) even if they stopped believing in Metroid as a big holiday title like Mario or Zelda. At the same time, I'd argue that Metroid matters more to Nintendo than Star Fox or F-Zero. Metroid appeals to wider audience because of the genre it's in.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on April 16, 2012, 02:52:49 PM
What if the new Smash Brothers for the Wii U had the option of allowing the gamer to buy DLC based expansions of the vs series? For example:
Pay $14.99 for each of the following:
Marvel vs. Super Smash Brothers DC vs Super Smash Brothers Street Fighter vs Super Smash Brothers Tekken vs Super Smash Brothers
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 16, 2012, 03:07:32 PM
I don't think those brands would want to be short sold like that. And the cost of programming balanced rosters might not justify selling them that low unless it was like 5 characters, but then it wouldn't be worth it to call it Marvel/DC/etc vs. Smash Bros. Would be pretty cool though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 16, 2012, 07:15:32 PM
Metroid has the potential to be Nintendo's Halo. I think the only reason the Prime series didn't reach Halo levels was because the hardware they were on (Gamecube) was shunned as a "kiddie" console. We all know that wasn't true, but in the eyes of a lot of people it was. I've never played Halo so I don't understand the appeal, but isn't it basically the same thing more or less as Metroid Prime? The only thing different that Halo had going for it was that it was on a "mature" console.
But be that as it may, unfortunately the Other M fiasco has set the entire franchise back and is going to make it even harder for Retro or whoever to make it popular again. If Sakamoto gets his hands back on the franchise and pulls another Other M then there may be no way the series could ever be restored to where it was. As it is Other M is just a horrible exception to an otherwise stellar series of games. If that were to be swept under the rug and never repeated we can just pretend it never happened and move on, but if Sakamoto decides to make an Other M 2 then I think the franchise is fucked.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 16, 2012, 07:43:15 PM
I've never played Halo so I don't understand the appeal, but isn't it basically the same thing more or less as Metroid Prime? The only thing different that Halo had going for it was that it was on a "mature" console.
Okay, that explains a lot. Metroid and Halo aren't even close. Halo is a shooter, an action game. Metroid is more about exploration and adventure. Metroid can't have the same reach as Halo unless Nintendo completely redefines the series. It was created as a single player game. The draw of Halo is its multiplayer though many like it for its mythos. Retro Studios tried adding multiplayer and it didn't work. NST made a primarily multiplayer Metroid with Hunters and it barely felt like a Metroid game. Metroid needs to stick to being Metroid and evolve from there. I don't think its gameplay lends itself to being anything more than it is, a great single player experience.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on April 16, 2012, 07:52:25 PM
I've never played Halo so I don't understand the appeal, but isn't it basically the same thing more or less as Metroid Prime? The only thing different that Halo had going for it was that it was on a "mature" console.
Okay, that explains a lot. Metroid and Halo aren't even close. Halo is a shooter, an action game. Metroid is more about exploration and adventure. Metroid can't have the same reach as Halo unless Nintendo completely redefines the series. It was created as a single player game. The draw of Halo is its multiplayer though many like it for its mythos. Retro Studios tried adding multiplayer and it didn't work. NST made a primarily multiplayer Metroid with Hunters and it barely felt like a Metroid game. Metroid needs to stick to being Metroid and evolve from there. I don't think its gameplay lends itself to being anything more than it is, a great single player experience.
Yeah, comparing the two is ridiculous, beyond first person they are completely different games. Halo is pretty much run n gun, while Metroid is more of an adventure/puzzle solving game. I doubt Metroid will ever become a big franchise unless Nintendo completely changes everything that Metroid is, like making it a run n gun shooter ::shudders::.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on April 16, 2012, 07:56:50 PM
I personally think Nintendo needs to create its own suave, super-spy first-person shooter akin to Goldeneye 007 (without being, ya know, James Bond). Make it have ALL of the multiplayer options that the best online Halo multiplayer game has and then some, and give it that Nintendo quality feel. Aaaaaand then, market the living holy jeebus out of it, proclaiming it to be the end-all/be-all Halo killer.
Then Nintendo has its own serious first-person shooter.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Oblivion on April 16, 2012, 10:15:19 PM
I predict that they'll show a new 2D Mario game for the Wii U. Maybe they'll put in Mii's to mix it up?
Nah. That sounds shitty.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: leahsdad on April 17, 2012, 05:28:42 PM
5 Words:
Retro makes first person Zelda.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: the asylum on April 17, 2012, 08:52:21 PM
^^ Or Retro making anything, for that matter
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 17, 2012, 09:18:06 PM
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 18, 2012, 12:19:54 AM
Link's Crossbow Training was a good proof of concept that shows how an FPS Zelda game could be done. But LCT was very basic and little more than a tech demo. If someone like Retro took that basic idea and fleshed it out a lot more with a story and adventure then it could be an awesome game. Not unlike the Metroid Prime series.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 18, 2012, 01:08:12 AM
But Zelda's all about the sword and shield... I just feel like playing with them in a first person perspective would be too awkward. The Elder Scrolls games don't convince me otherwise.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 18, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
I remember reading that Miyamoto originally wanted Ocarina of Time to be in first person. I'm sure he had some idea of how it would work. It's probably not as bizarre in practice as it looks on paper.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Stogi on April 18, 2012, 09:15:04 AM
But did Miyamoto originally plan for everyone to roll everywhere in OOT?
But Zelda's all about the sword and shield... I just feel like playing with them in a first person perspective would be too awkward. The Elder Scrolls games don't convince me otherwise.
There horrible implementation of it is why I never want to see that genre in first person again.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Louieturkey on April 18, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
These days, it's jump backwards everywhere, warp through walls and glide. Rolling is for slowpokes now.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 18, 2012, 12:53:39 PM
First-person Zelda is too close to Metroid Prime. I want something different from Retro, whether that means a totally new IP or a reimagining of an existing one that's different from what they've done so far, which could be Star Fox. And before someone argues with me, yes, I'm saying that Zelda is more similar to Metroid than Star Fox is, because it totally is. If you can get past the common sci-fi themes, the gameplay of Metroid is a lot more like the exploration and puzzle solving of Zelda than the nonstop action of Star Fox.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on April 18, 2012, 01:14:17 PM
First-person Zelda is too close to Metroid Prime. I want something different from Retro, whether that means a totally new IP or a reimagining of an existing one that's different from what they've done so far, which could be Star Fox. And before someone argues with me, yes, I'm saying that Zelda is more similar to Metroid than Star Fox is, because it totally is. If you can get past the common sci-fi themes, the gameplay of Metroid is a lot more like the exploration and puzzle solving of Zelda than the nonstop action of Star Fox.
I can easily see that. Now that they are closer in perpective.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ian Sane on April 18, 2012, 01:44:50 PM
I swear that videogame designers never play their own games. Nobody in Nintendo did this in testing? They all just slowly walked everywhere with all the patience in the world?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on April 18, 2012, 04:36:22 PM
They do give you a horse, eventually.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 18, 2012, 06:47:56 PM
Or, Nintendo did do it...and since it didn't break the game...they kept it in. I wish OoT or any of the 3D Zelda's had the awesome boots for running...but instead we got a horse...eventually...but take the horse and leave it out...is there anything wrong with rolling everywhere?
Now the warping through walls is pretty bad...but you know holes in design seem to exist everywhere...though that is one thing I love about 2D design less holes in general.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Mop it up on April 18, 2012, 07:52:32 PM
I remember reading that Miyamoto originally wanted Ocarina of Time to be in first person. I'm sure he had some idea of how it would work. It's probably not as bizarre in practice as it looks on paper.
Zelda in first-person = Dragon Quest Swords.
The swordplay in Dragon Quest Swords is actually very similar to Skyward Sword, with 8 directional slashes and everything, except that it doesn't work as well without Motion +. The similarities end there though, as the game is completely linear, forcing you to move on a set path. It's more like an arcade game in essence, something Zelda shouldn't be. But the point is, Zelda could actually be interesting in first-person, or at least the combat could work. I'm not sure about exploring or dungeons, though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 18, 2012, 08:23:44 PM
Not really. The genres would be similar, but both games are vastly different in a near infinite number of ways. You don't say the current 3D Zelda games are too similar to 3D Mario, even though that is the same (and only) level of similarity a first person Zelda would have with Metroid Prime.
A first person Zelda game would fit that bill. Plus its not like that would have to be the only change, either. If they had total creative control they could do a lot of things different with it. It doesn't need to be just Zelda in first person. There can be other changes as well. I don't know what those changes could or would be, but Retro has proven themselves as a very capable and talented studio so I know the Zelda franchise would be in good hands with them, and it would be interesting to see what they would do.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 18, 2012, 08:30:41 PM
It's not about being in 3D. Mario is a platformer. It's entirely different from Zelda. Metroid Prime is as close a first person Zelda game as we've seen. It even controls like Ocarina of Time.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on April 18, 2012, 08:41:35 PM
It's not about being in 3D. Mario is a platformer. It's entirely different from Zelda. Metroid Prime is as close a first person Zelda game as we've seen. It even controls like Ocarina of Time.
Well, the Zelda and Metroid games have similarities but also a lot of differences as well. First and foremost Metroid is a sci-fi game set in the future, whereas Zelda is a medieval fantasy type setting. That alone makes the two games worlds apart. Whether they play the same or not, the difference in setting and in characters (in one you are a male in an elf costume, and in the other you are a female in science fiction space suit) is so vast that it is absurd to suggest they need to distance themselves further from each other.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 18, 2012, 08:49:27 PM
Metroid Prime is as close to a first person Zelda game as we've seen. It even controls like Ocarina of Time.
I'm baffled that you assumed that insano and I had no idea that the settings of those games are different. I thought that was a given. In terms of gameplay, the basics of Metroid Prime and Ocarina of Time are similar, right down to locking onto enemies.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 18, 2012, 09:14:04 PM
It's not about being in 3D. Mario is a platformer. It's entirely different from Zelda. Metroid Prime is as close a first person Zelda game as we've seen. It even controls like Ocarina of Time.
Well, the Zelda and Metroid games have similarities but also a lot of differences as well. First and foremost Metroid is a sci-fi game set in the future, whereas Zelda is a medieval fantasy type setting. That alone makes the two games worlds apart. Whether they play the same or not, the difference in setting and in characters (in one you are a male in an elf costume, and in the other you are a female in science fiction space suit) is so vast that it is absurd to suggest they need to distance themselves further from each other.
Those are all superficial differences. The only real differences are the sense of isolation in Metroid compared to the more abundant NPCs in Zelda, and the primarily melee combat in Zelda compared to the primarily ranged combat in Metroid. At their core, they're basically the same thing, which isn't really bad, but I want to see Retro do something different.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 18, 2012, 09:21:07 PM
I think Mario is in great hands. For me Star Fox, F-Zero, and even Zelda could use a western approach.
Do they need a "Western" approach? What's wrong with letting Japanese developers do their own thing? What's next, you want Street Fighter, the Persona series, and Soul Calibur to be outsourced to Western developers?
If Japanese games keep getting outsourced to American studios, then there wouldn't be anything that makes them unique. They'd lose their distinct Japanese style.
What would you say if anime and manga were all outsourced to American cartoonists?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 18, 2012, 09:31:54 PM
Zelda needs a new approach period, whether that's a Western developer or a different Japanese one. The so-called Zelda Team needs a shot at something else, and the series needs a new shot of creativity.
In the same way I didn't initially want the Browns to draft Trent Richardson but now I think it's the best option, I've really warmed up to the idea of Retro doing Star Fox. First because I just want a new Star Fox game, but beyond that I don't think there's a team within Nintendo that could do a better job of it, and I think they've got the talent to revive the franchise with a bang.
F-Zero, if it happens at all, I'm convinced will be from Monster Games.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on April 18, 2012, 09:36:24 PM
F-Zero, if it happens at all, I'm convinced will be from Monster Games.
Nintendo should just buy out:
Monster Games (ExciteTruck/Bots),
Next Level Games (Mario Strikers series, Punch Out Wii),
Good Feel (Kirby's Epic Yarn, Wario Land Shake it)
Grezzo (Zelda: Ocarina of Time 3D, Four Swords DSiWare)
Each of these companies has primarily made games for Nintendo systems, and they've done a damn good job at updating classic Nintendo franchises.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on April 19, 2012, 01:12:31 AM
Eh, Grezzo? They've re-relealsed two Zelda games and made Line Attack Heroes (whcih didn't look very good). I don't think they've proven themselves yet. The others I would be happy for Nintendo to make motions to acquire.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 19, 2012, 01:27:58 AM
I think Mario is in great hands. For me Star Fox, F-Zero, and even Zelda could use a western approach.
Do they need a "Western" approach? What's wrong with letting Japanese developers do their own thing? What's next, you want Street Fighter, the Persona series, and Soul Calibur to be outsourced to Western developers?
If Japanese games keep getting outsourced to American studios, then there wouldn't be anything that makes them unique. They'd lose their distinct Japanese style.
What would you say if anime and manga were all outsourced to American cartoonists?
Man your touchy. But to answer your question, those fighting games are fine as far as I'm concerned.
As wonderful as SS is, it does lack in the epic scope of things, and to be honest, creativity as well. The world is always coming to an end, and it never seems like anyone notices outside of MM. I liked that TP had a "big" town with lots of NPC's everywhere, even if you couldn't talk to half of them. But there is always like one major town, and 5 people living in every other town. I would love if the environments got a little more whimsical and creative. They are cool, but a little too bland and realistic half the time. Even Mario's realistic landscapes in Galaxy look beyond epic. The Zelda guys make locations too realistic despite the art style.
When I play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 I feel like there other things going on in the back ground despite not seeing it. Samus's actions have weight and to me the space pirates are really reacting to that. In Metroid Prime 3 Samus is back at the federation and I think "yeah, everyone is aware of all the amazing things she did. There is a real world out there." With Zelda I havn't got that feeling since MM and WW.
Retro would do wonders for Zelda, considering how they did Metroid. They would make it feel like Zelda and then add new and amazing things that just don't happen often with the current developers.
I mean I love flying! But why can't I fly over landscape and use my bird to interact with the world more? Special clouds the birds won't fly through is just BS to keep the game from being more fun. Retro would have done it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: the asylum on April 19, 2012, 01:55:54 AM
F-Zero, if it happens at all, I'm convinced will be from Monster Games.
Not so sure about that. Soon after GX's release Shiggy lumped it in with Starfox Assault saying that letting third parties' hands on their franchises had less than pleasing results.
Starfox Assault I can understand, but FZGX? To this day I'm still not sure wether or not he's actually played GX or was just on something that particular day
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 19, 2012, 01:59:22 AM
F-Zero, if it happens at all, I'm convinced will be from Monster Games.
Not so sure about that. Soon after GX's release Shiggy lumped it in with Starfox Assault saying that letting third parties' hands on their franchises had less than pleasing results.
Starfox Assault I can understand, but FZGX? To this day I'm still not sure wether or not he's actually played GX or was just on something that particular day
If they didnt release it darn near the same day as Soul Calibur 2 featuring Link I bet it would have performed better, making Miyamoto happier.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: the asylum on April 19, 2012, 02:05:12 AM
^^^ ha ha, yes. Funny story about that, actually. When I went from shop to shop for GX, it was all "We don't have it yet, wanna buy Soul Calibur II instead?" across the board.
Which I of course did, but still
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 19, 2012, 02:50:53 AM
I was so annoyed that I bought GX and just a few days later Nintendo added it to the Player's Choice list and dropping it from $50 to $20.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on April 19, 2012, 02:56:57 AM
Where did you buy the game? Could you have price matched it?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 19, 2012, 11:26:00 AM
Man your touchy. But to answer your question, those fighting games are fine as far as I'm concerned.
As wonderful as SS is, it does lack in the epic scope of things, and to be honest, creativity as well. The world is always coming to an end, and it never seems like anyone notices outside of MM. I liked that TP had a "big" town with lots of NPC's everywhere, even if you couldn't talk to half of them. But there is always like one major town, and 5 people living in every other town. I would love if the environments got a little more whimsical and creative. They are cool, but a little too bland and realistic half the time. Even Mario's realistic landscapes in Galaxy look beyond epic. The Zelda guys make locations too realistic despite the art style.
When I play Metroid Prime 1 and 2 I feel like there other things going on in the back ground despite not seeing it. Samus's actions have weight and to me the space pirates are really reacting to that. In Metroid Prime 3 Samus is back at the federation and I think "yeah, everyone is aware of all the amazing things she did. There is a real world out there." With Zelda I havn't got that feeling since MM and WW.
Retro would do wonders for Zelda, considering how they did Metroid. They would make it feel like Zelda and then add new and amazing things that just don't happen often with the current developers.
I mean I love flying! But why can't I fly over landscape and use my bird to interact with the world more? Special clouds the birds won't fly through is just BS to keep the game from being more fun. Retro would have done it.
Yeesh. Someone didn't like Skyward Sword.
I agree that Zelda does need a little more of a role-play element to it, however, I think Skyward Sword took steps in that direction. Helping out townsfolk in the VERY well-designed Skyloft- but yeah, the game does need more than just one town. However, I think you're putting a lot of faith in Retro, especially when the Prime series revolved around obtaining powerups and not really reacting with other characters much at all. The story of Prime was okay, though a little all-over the place, and the environments were extremely creative, but in no way whimsical. I mean, the themed locales in DKCR were okay, but they didn't do much for me.
I think that Zelda simply needs to become bigger in scope- the locales are already extremely well-designed, with Skyward Sword pretty much exemplifying how masterfully the Zelda team is at utilizing the space available- but if they had more, and perhaps had environs that were like those in Skyward Sword but had more branching paths into other regions (or if the locales had more of a connection instead of access by sky), the game would be even better.
Something I've talked about with quite a few people is that Skyward Sword is not the end-all Zelda formula and things are going to change. However, the environment design in Skyward Sword was top-notch and I think that any improvements to it would only be a good thing for the franchise.
Moreover, I'm going to emphasize how terrible I think first-person sword-wielding games are. With all the innovation that Nintendo did with motion controls in the third-person format, I would like it to stay that way. Mechanics like swimming, gravity flips, and enemies coming from behind are just disorienting and awkward in first person, IMO.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on April 19, 2012, 12:04:56 PM
I love SS. I was one of the few guys on this forum preaching how great it was from day one. Gameplay wise I love it, aside from a few things, but it still feels like Zelda.
Retro have proven they can take a completely silent game, slowly build on the story and eventually have full on voice acing and everything. Their track record so far awesome. Where as the Zelda team regularly plays it too safe.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on April 19, 2012, 12:41:37 PM
I love SS. I was one of the few guys on this forum preaching how great it was from day one. Gameplay wise I love it, aside from a few things, but it still feels like Zelda.
Retro have proven they can take a completely silent game, slowly build on the story and eventually have full on voice acing and everything. Their track record so far awesome. Where as the Zelda team regularly plays it too safe.
Well, I dunno. They innovate in some ways and cut corners in others. That's why I loved motion control but hated not having a full Overworld.
Title: Random LOL of the Day
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2012, 04:22:11 PM
(http://i.imgur.com/EqlEh.jpg)
Oh Google.... ;)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Oblivion on April 29, 2012, 08:26:42 PM
Are those doctored at all? xD
And would it be asking too much to expect a F-Zero announcement?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2012, 09:03:09 PM
We should all fill them out and share them before the big show. Winner get bragging rights. Person with fewest gets banned for the remainder of E3.
I don't bet, especially when the stakes are high (like a ban).
Besides, Joystiq usually does E3 Bingo, and most of the time they're wrong.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 14, 2012, 12:47:59 AM
Well, for starters we all know Nintendo is going to change the name of the Wii U to "Super Wii", so go ahead and put that up on the Bingo. ;)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ShyGuy on May 14, 2012, 01:17:56 AM
- Microsoft tries to be more mainstream/casual
Put it on the board!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Louieturkey on May 14, 2012, 12:24:03 PM
-Videos of people having the most fun ever playing the Wii U will be shown. -Actors will come out and demonstrate new Kinect games at the M$ conference and they will be overly vocal while playing.
Those are my predictions.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 14, 2012, 12:27:34 PM
Nintendo stops selling consoles. WE ALL SAW IT COMING!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 14, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
Or are we going with ridiculous over-the-top speculation?
This is a kytim thread. Realistic expectations and speculation have no place here.
Noted.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 15, 2012, 06:15:36 PM
Nintendo announces an eShop app for mobile devices that allows you to purchase 3DS and Wii U games while away from home. The games then download to the systems when they are in sleep mode.
It's like how Xbox 360's web-based marketplace works. Or like what WiiConnect24 was supposed to be.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on May 15, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
Nintendo announces an eShop app for mobile devices that allows you to purchase 3DS and Wii U games while away from home. The games then download to the systems when they are in sleep mode.
It's like how Xbox 360's web-based marketplace works. Or like what WiiConnect24 was supposed to be.
Oh, I hope this is so. Nintendo already announced this was coming for 3DS, didn't they?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 15, 2012, 08:13:06 PM
Nintendo announces an eShop app for mobile devices that allows you to purchase 3DS and Wii U games while away from home. The games then download to the systems when they are in sleep mode.
It's like how Xbox 360's web-based marketplace works. Or like what WiiConnect24 was supposed to be.
Oh, I hope this is so. Nintendo already announced this was coming for 3DS, didn't they?
But the 3DS already has an eShop app... :confused; This would mainly be beneficial for the Wii U. Buy something with the eShop mobile app, and the content downloads to your Wii U while it's in sleep mode.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Oblivion on May 15, 2012, 10:33:58 PM
Did you even read what he said? "Mobile devices". Meaning, an iPhone or Android device. So that they can purchase a game or app on the go and have it downloaded and ready to use by then time they get home.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2012, 11:53:22 PM
Yes, he understands that. Nintendo already announced that was coming for the eShop, which is currently only on the 3DS.
You will be able to shop/buy eShop games on devices other than the 3DS/Wii U. You could probably find it somewhere in this thread if you looked hard enough.
Someone should do a link summary in this thread like was done in the rumor thread.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on May 15, 2012, 11:55:56 PM
Sony will announce a release date for the Last Guardian and it will be for both the PS3 and Vita. Also, Journey will be ported to the Vita as well. A new Ratchet and Clank, Killzone and Gran Turismo will be announced for the Vita, too.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Oblivion on May 15, 2012, 11:57:23 PM
Ah. I never actually heard of that.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 16, 2012, 12:53:33 PM
Or are we going with ridiculous over-the-top speculation?
This is a kytim thread. Realistic expectations and speculation have no place here.
This is what the inside of Kytim's mind looks like. (http://images2.layoutsparks.com/1/152038/psyche-fantasy-land-story.jpg)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on May 17, 2012, 06:34:22 PM
@BnM - thanks for the rescue!
@oblivion and tendoboy: I should have been more specific: I am sure Nintendo announced that you will (someday) be able to buy eshop games through other devices by using a kind of e-shop website. You buy stuff and queue it up for download. You leave your 3DS in sleep mode and as soon as it finds a wi-fi connection, it downloads (via SpotPass!). Then when you open it up again, your bought thing is waiting for you.
I recall Iwata saying all this stuff. Maybe it was during a Nintendo Direct? Maybe I dreamed it. I don't recall if the announcement mentioned anything about mobile-specific functionality.
I hope that something similar will be instituted for WiiU.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shinyray01 on May 19, 2012, 07:52:32 PM
project X zone will not be at E3. How's that for a prediction? though i do want that game. seems like the fighting aspect will be very similar to SRTOGsaga: Endless Frontier
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 12:53:10 AM
Did you even read what he said? "Mobile devices". Meaning, an iPhone or Android device. So that they can purchase a game or app on the go and have it downloaded and ready to use by then time they get home.
I'm the one that originally posted that idea. And having a mobile eShop app would mainly be beneficial for the Wii U, since the 3DS is already portable and has it's own app built in.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 12:55:02 AM
Sony will announce a release date for the Last Guardian and it will be for both the PS3 and Vita. Also, Journey will be ported to the Vita as well. A new Ratchet and Clank, Killzone and Gran Turismo will be announced for the Vita, too.
In other words, nothing unique or original. Killzone was announced for the Vita before the system launched, but it was only in a trailer video. (I think?)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Oblivion on May 20, 2012, 01:40:53 AM
Did you just call The Last Guardian not unique or original?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 01:42:56 AM
Did you just call The Last Guardian not unique or original?
The Last Guardian doesn't count since it's basically vaporware now. I was referring to the other games that he listed.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 20, 2012, 01:47:37 AM
I would be very happy if they announced a Gran Turismo for Vita, since the PSP one cut out the reason I like that kind of game in the deep career mode.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 02:09:37 AM
I would be very happy if they announced a Gran Turismo for Vita, since the PSP one cut out the reason I like that kind of game in the deep career mode.
With how long it took Polyphony Digital to make GT5 and GT PSP, I doubt we'll see a new Gran Turismo any time soon. Let's wait about 5 years and see.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 07:42:25 AM
I'm currently watching Sony's E3 2011 conference, the first one I've watched by them, and I can't get over how boring Jack Tretton is. He's even more boring than Reggie!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 20, 2012, 02:32:49 PM
Dragon Quest X wii u launch game. Crackdown 3 Vita fails to impress
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 20, 2012, 08:11:42 PM
Dragon Quest X wii u launch game. Crackdown 3 Vita fails to impress
Hey shingi, I haven't seen you in a while. Do you still post on GoNintendo?
And all I want for the Wii U is the following:
- personalized Mii's (like on the 3DS) - Friend requests (the only thing keeping the 3DS from being completely amazing) - game invites - leaderboards and matchmaking for all online games - OS-based voice & video chat through the Wii U controller - Swapnote with color ink
That's it.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on May 21, 2012, 02:04:13 AM
I'm expecting none of the following for Wii U:
Zelda 3D Mario Donkey Kong F-Zero Metroid Smash Bros
Now that I have set my Nintendo expectations super low I can be pleasantly surprised when each one of them is announced.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 21, 2012, 02:09:04 AM
Zelda 3D Mario Donkey Kong F-Zero Metroid Smash Bros
Now that I have set my Nintendo expectations super low I can be pleasantly surprised when each one of them is announced.
If a Donkey Kong game is announced, it won't be another DKC platformer. I expect Nintendo to announce a new "Mario vs DK" game for both the 3DS and Wii U, with level sharing between platforms and online.
We might get a teaser trailer for the 3DS and Wii U Smash Bros., but don't expect any major info until closer to the Wii U launch. Nintendo won't be that generous. Then again, they did completely surprise everyone with the Metroid Other M trailer at the end of their E3 2010 conference.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Lithium on May 21, 2012, 03:55:05 AM
microsoft and/or sony will drop the price on their respected consoles in an attempt to undermine WiiU sales
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on May 21, 2012, 03:24:09 PM
Nintendo put up their Nintendo All-Access @ E3 2012 page just a few minutes ago.
http://e3.nintendo.com/
Nintendo E3 Presentation: Tuesday, June 5 @ 9 a.m. PDT Developer Discussion with Katsuya Eguchi: Tuesday, June 5 @ 11:30 p.m. PDT Software Showcase: Wednesday, June 6 @ 6 p.m. PDT
Speculate.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 21, 2012, 03:56:06 PM
With the stories Neal's bringing, I figure this will be the biggest let down we have ever had as Nintendo fans.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Luigi Dude on May 21, 2012, 04:49:37 PM
With the stories Neal's bringing, I figure this will be the biggest let down we have ever had as Nintendo fans.
Neal's stories are about third party support being lame which is nothing new to Nintendo E3. Nintendo's own software is what will make their E3 show like it always has and right now nobody knows what Nintendo will show except a Mario game based off last years tech demo, a new Pikmin and something from Retro.
These three things alone already guarantee this will be a better E3 then 2003 and 2008 so it's literally impossible for this to be worst E3 for Nintendo fans.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on May 21, 2012, 05:04:37 PM
All of this doom and gloom surrounding Nintendo should give them an incentive to deliver a home run. Let's hope that's the case...
Also, here's an ad for SPIKE's coverage of the big event:
New StarFox for 3DS (I think that game works better as a handheld)
Paper Mario 3DS (I've been waiting two years Nintendo)
Monolithsofts Wii U and 3DS games (Xenoblade was awesome)
Zelda for 3DS (No remakes. Remakes are rude)
Pikmin 3
Super Smash bros. 4. ________________________
My body will be ready.
Iwata, Reggie...Time to drop the bomb.
Yeah, the thing I keep forgetting is that the 3DS is going to have a hefty lineup for the rest of the year/some newly announced titles that are going to hit us hard. Paper Mario, NSMB2, Luigi's Mansion 2, and probably one or two new big titles (I am also hoping for a quality Metroid title, Zelda's a bit more of a stretch). Plus, dat third party support. Give me Monster Hunter 4 localization, baby, and I will guarantee my 3DS won't leave my hands for months.
But the launch lineup for Wii U is definitely going to be the big bomb, here. They don't need to spend a whole lot of time detailing the features of the Wii U, we'll learn about those in the coming months, I'm sure. A sizzle reel will do quite fine for all of that, but I need to see these HD launch titles. Really bad. Plus, DAT THIRD PARTY SUPPORT. Give me some 3rd Party titles (like Rayman Legends and the rumored Castlevania) that really wow- I want to see something cool. Rumors about FFXV were floating around, which would be awesome, but if Square Enix released an HD Crystal Chronicles (with Wii U controller for map), I'd probably flip my lid.
I wouldn't be surprised with a CGI sizzle for Smash Bros., just to show us who is going to be joining the ranks, but even though it's a lot to ask Sakurai, I would be pleased to see Smash Bros. on the 3DS screen. Just to see how it's gonna look. I'm so intrigued by how that game is going to work- a focus on keeping in portable/integrating it with the Wii U version but also making sure it stands well on its own as a single player experience is going to be quite the undertaking, but the fact that it will most likely have online means it's going to have to have some differences with the Wii U version. I mean, obviously it will, but I want to see HOW.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2012, 09:19:01 AM
With the stories Neal's bringing, I figure this will be the biggest let down we have ever had as Nintendo fans.
Neal's stories are about third party support being lame which is nothing new to Nintendo E3. Nintendo's own software is what will make their E3 show like it always has and right now nobody knows what Nintendo will show except a Mario game based off last years tech demo, a new Pikmin and something from Retro.
These three things alone already guarantee this will be a better E3 then 2003 and 2008 so it's literally impossible for this to be worst E3 for Nintendo fans.
Except from E3 2011 we've all been hyped on the 3rd party support of the WiiU. We haven't been to hyped about Nintendo's own offerings because we pretty much know what they are. As Nintendo fans we want are Fandom to grow. To extend beyond those we enjoy Nintendo's personal brand of games.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on May 22, 2012, 12:34:54 PM
@tendoboy1984 Lol.
@Evan_B
3DS is going all out. I haven't seen a system with so many awesome announced games within the first two years. Metroid will definitely be coming for 3DS and Wii U, as well as a localize Fire Emblem: Kakusei.
Monster Hunter 3G and 4 will be seriously great to have. I held off buying Monster Hunter Tri for Wii, because I Think that series is better fit for a handheld. Hell, I can expect a ton from Capcom and other third parties.
On the topic of Zelda, I don't mind if Nintendo waits a few years before releasing another. Just don't want a remake again. Most likely see a 3DS one before a Wii U Zelda, though.
On the topic of Mario, I see Paper Mario releasing Holiday, and Luigi's Mansion early next year.
Monolithsoft's Xenoblade Chronicles was an Awesome game. I'd love to see that dev work on a more powerful machine. The 3DS game could be interesting too, I'd be able to sink more hours in knowing it's for a handheld.
Personally, I love Final Fantasy, I just wish they supported Nintendo platforms more often. And yes, I agree Final Fantasy Crystal chronicles for Wii U will be awesome. It could support Four players without the need for extra GBA or DS. Bravely Default needs a US/Europe release as well. SqureEnix is a vital 3rd party.
A CGI does seem a bit unlikely though, Kid Icarus Development just ended in January, and I think it's still in the planning stages. Would still be great to see.
Finally for Wii U, I'd like to see a new 3D Mario Platformer and those Demos you mentioned. We also need the final specs so people will stop talking like it's weaker than the 360/PS3.
Just two weeks from now......
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2012, 12:40:01 PM
I would really like a Crystal Chronicles with the jump in jump out mechanics of Diablo 3.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on May 22, 2012, 01:22:15 PM
Nintendo put up their Nintendo All-Access @ E3 2012 page just a few minutes ago.
http://e3.nintendo.com/ (http://e3.nintendo.com/)
Nintendo E3 Presentation: Tuesday, June 5 @ 9 a.m. PDT Developer Discussion with Katsuya Eguchi: Tuesday, June 5 @ 11:30 p.m. PDT Software Showcase: Wednesday, June 6 @ 6 p.m. PDT
Speculate.
Eguchi is billed as the WiiU Hardware Developer. I speculate he will be asked many questions about WiiU specs that he will not answer, because Nintendo does not discuss hardware specs. I speculate the session will be painful, with many awkward silences. Maybe it will end early.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2012, 01:51:58 PM
Nintendo put up their Nintendo All-Access @ E3 2012 page just a few minutes ago.
http://e3.nintendo.com/ (http://e3.nintendo.com/)
Nintendo E3 Presentation: Tuesday, June 5 @ 9 a.m. PDT Developer Discussion with Katsuya Eguchi: Tuesday, June 5 @ 11:30 p.m. PDT Software Showcase: Wednesday, June 6 @ 6 p.m. PDT
Speculate.
Eguchi is billed as the WiiU Hardware Developer. I speculate he will be asked many questions about WiiU specs that he will not answer, because Nintendo does not discuss hardware specs. I speculate the session will be painful, with many awkward silences. Maybe it will end early.
I have to Disagree. Why host a session like that if you didn't mean to answer those type of questions? They could have easily had Iwata speak and him say that he had full confidence in his engineers and that they handled the performance specs.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: MagicCow64 on May 22, 2012, 01:57:19 PM
I think for smash brothers they might do something like they did with the initial Skyward Sword announcement, show a still image render of Mario punching Mega Man in the face or whathaveyou, just to confirm the game is in development and keep the fires of speculation burning.
I sincerely doubt there's going to be any 3D Mario, but there could well be a 3DS Zelda tease.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on May 22, 2012, 02:33:08 PM
Nintendo put up their Nintendo All-Access @ E3 2012 page just a few minutes ago.
http://e3.nintendo.com/ (http://e3.nintendo.com/)
Nintendo E3 Presentation: Tuesday, June 5 @ 9 a.m. PDT Developer Discussion with Katsuya Eguchi: Tuesday, June 5 @ 11:30 p.m. PDT Software Showcase: Wednesday, June 6 @ 6 p.m. PDT
Speculate.
Eguchi is billed as the WiiU Hardware Developer. I speculate he will be asked many questions about WiiU specs that he will not answer, because Nintendo does not discuss hardware specs. I speculate the session will be painful, with many awkward silences. Maybe it will end early.
I have to Disagree. Why host a session like that if you didn't mean to answer those type of questions? They could have easily had Iwata speak and him say that he had full confidence in his engineers and that they handled the performance specs.
Agreed. I think the fact that they're having a discussion with Eguchi shows that they want to set the record straight. They've been unwilling to discuss the hardware up to this point because they don't want their competition knowing what they've got and they just didn't want to discuss it before a major event like this.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2012, 04:37:06 PM
Sony and Microsoft knows exactly whats in the Dev kits. If a 3rd party developer has it. They know. I would expect no less.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 22, 2012, 09:05:50 PM
I hope Nintendo does me proud this E3, like 2010's conference. They made me happy to be a fan then, and all they had to do was throw some nice titles at me. That's what I care about with the Wii U- the specs are not important, it's the content. If specs are important I would have gotten rid of my Wii a long time ago and never experienced games like Xenoblade, which is arguably better than most recent RPGs. So hit me hard and fast with some titles, Nintendo.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 22, 2012, 09:10:31 PM
Specs are important in that they affect what kind of content you get. The better the specs, the more you can do. Doesn't equate to 1:1 gains in quality, but having more options is always a good thing.
A practical example: if the Wii had had better specs, Super Meat Boy still would have been released on WiiWare.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: MegaByte on May 22, 2012, 09:17:32 PM
Bad example. Super Meat Boy would have been fine on WiiWare (heck, I played it). It didn't turn out because of an executive decision to put a cap on space usage, not a technical one.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 22, 2012, 09:22:52 PM
But wasn't that cap based on a technical limitation, and that's why they weren't able to raise it?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: MegaByte on May 22, 2012, 09:50:22 PM
Not really. At best, it was a convenience issue since there wouldn't be a lot of free space for other games. And since homebrew was able to run stuff directly from SD and USB, it's clear that any shortcomings were purely imposed by Nintendo software or policy.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 22, 2012, 09:54:51 PM
So they were just insanely stubborn to not raise it once the SD card channel was in place, and not under any kind of self-imposed hardware restriction?
If that's the case, then I'll point out that if the Wii had had better specs it would have gotten virtually every third party release in the last 4-5 years because it would have been decently easy to port to, and we'd never have to worry about droughts.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 22, 2012, 10:12:52 PM
The content of the Wii is not without depth and entertainment value- it caters to a more creative group, IMO, and I get more mileage out of it. I'd go into further depth, but I'll just say this: Would a Link to the Past be considered a bad game by today's standards if it were released on the eShop as a new title? Some argue it's the best game of all time. Content is what drives a console, Nintendo makes fantastic content, and some third parties make fantastic content for Nintendo consoles- but not as many as Sony and Microsoft.
That, of course, is another argument entirely. But my point still stands. Xenoblade is one of the best games I've ever played- sure, the specs affect what kind of content we get, but who cares when that content is still fantastic?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 22, 2012, 10:31:04 PM
I'm not saying the Wii's lineup isn't good; as I said somewhere else on these forums today, it's probably my favorite home console I've ever owned, but it still could have been significantly better with some of these changes.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 22, 2012, 11:15:20 PM
I'm not saying the Wii's lineup isn't good; as I said somewhere else on these forums today, it's probably my favorite home console I've ever owned, but it still could have been significantly better with some of these changes.
Well, I agree with that, for the most part.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on May 23, 2012, 12:34:08 AM
I hope Nintendo does me proud this E3, like 2010's conference. They made me happy to be a fan then, and all they had to do was throw some nice titles at me. That's what I care about with the Wii U- the specs are not important, it's the content. If specs are important I would have gotten rid of my Wii a long time ago and never experienced games like Xenoblade, which is arguably better than most recent RPGs. So hit me hard and fast with some titles, Nintendo.
I agree with this. Heh. That's why I'm excited that Nintendo has a separate software showcase event. I think they'll do all their high concept talk in the press conference, but come software showcase they might just hit as many titles as possible trying to overwhelm people with the third party support? ... please? ^_^
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 23, 2012, 10:35:14 AM
If Reggie and Iwata came out dressed as Viridi, E3 is surely doomed.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on May 23, 2012, 01:08:01 PM
A few more things that just came to mind.
Nintendo 3DS will be getting a revision announcement a little after E3, I think it will still be in June. Remember Iwata said "By the end of the next fiscal term, we won't be selling the system below cost." So I say a new version is coming. Not like you can just jack the price up without some sort of retribution. Or maybe they just plan to bundle it with a game, and increase the price by 30 dollars.
If Nintendo just ups the price, than fans will be pretty upset. Especially the ones who haven't bought it yet.
Just give me Paper Mario, Luigi's Mansion, NSMB2 and a Golden Sun sequel and you'll have my money, Nintendo.
The Bomb....
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Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on May 23, 2012, 01:32:56 PM
I still think Luigi's Mansion 2 is getting retooled for Wii U. Why else haven't we had a recent announcement on the game?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_Neal on May 23, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
I still think Luigi's Mansion 2 is getting retooled for Wii U. Why else haven't we had a recent announcement on the game?
Because it's only been in full development since the beginning of 2011.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThePerm on May 23, 2012, 02:46:30 PM
im going to have to say they will probably announce a 3DS revision, i've been expecting this announcement since 3DS was announced. Mainly because I bought a DSphat and this screwed me over when dslite, dsi ds xl were all announced. If im going to buy the handheld, im only going to buy one version of it. I think this revision will have the second thumbslider built in. That way i dont have to buy the stupid attachment, and those that have an old 3ds can either buy the attachment or upgrade entirely. It may also have some other features that you don't get with just the attatchment/old 3ds combo..maybe it will be a phone? bigger upper screen? dual touch?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 23, 2012, 05:33:34 PM
it's probably my favorite home console I've ever owned,
Have you owned the Super Nintendo?
No, actually, I haven't, but I have no real desire to. There are games on the system I love (Super Metroid and Yoshi's Island are among my all-time favorites), but there's a lot of stuff there I just don't care about (I'm not much of a JRPG fan, and I believe my disdain for Super Mario World and Zelda: LTTP is fairly well documented at this point).
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on May 23, 2012, 06:00:17 PM
Nintendo 3DS will be getting a revision announcement a little after E3, I think it will still be in June. Remember Iwata said "By the end of the next fiscal term, we won't be selling the system below cost." So I say a new version is coming. Not like you can just jack the price up without some sort of retribution. Or maybe they just plan to bundle it with a game, and increase the price by 30 dollars. (http://www.freeimagehosting.net/37dth)
I'd be more willing to guess this is an indication that they aren't coming out with a revision. My guesses for this comment would be more based on them streamlining their production of the current model, as well as possibly higher order QTY of components for better price breaks from their vendors now that the demand for the product is increasing.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 24, 2012, 06:29:05 AM
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: fixyourface0814 on May 24, 2012, 07:35:49 AM
That just made my morning. :)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on May 24, 2012, 09:07:25 AM
That is absolutely brilliant, BnM. Don't know where you found that or if you made it yourself but it is gold!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 24, 2012, 09:20:23 AM
20MB GIF! That was awesome.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: FZeroBoyo on May 24, 2012, 11:08:15 AM
Continuing the trend of stealing things from NeoGAF, we have the...
Nintendo Wii U Pre-E3 Survey
1) So.. how much will the Wii U cost? My answer: $299.99
2) And when will the Wii U's Launch Day be? My answer: Sunday, November the 18th, 2012
3) Your #1 Desired Launch Day Game? My answer: I want to say Pikmin 3, but just in case, I'll say New Super Mario Bros. Mii.
4) Any pleasant third-party surprises for the Wii U? My answer: Resident Evil 6 will be announced for Wii U, complete with awesome sauce RE4Wii pointer controls.
5) Any predictions of media criticisms for Nintendo's behavior/substance during E3 Week? My answer: The usual focusing on what's not there (possibly Unreal Engine 4, no iOS games, etc.) instead of what is.
6) What'll be your preferred food & drink of choice during the Nintendo Conference? My answer: Soda/water and chips/candy/sandwich. Not too much that I vomit from joy afterwards.
7) How long will the Nintendo Conference go on, and what'll be the breakdown on time spent between Wii U amd 3DS? My answer: 70 minutes: 10 minutes on Wii/DS farewells, 25 minutes on 3DS, 35 minutes on Wii U.
8. Predict: rate the Wii U Launch lineup from 1 (worst) to 10 (best). My answer: With Assassin's Creed, Rayman, Mario, Pikmin (hopefully), and more, I'll say... 8.5.
9) Predict: any final hardware revelations? My answer: Will launch in black as well.
10) Predict: any super-special applications that Nintendo's gonna spring on us? My answer: A surprisingly robust online setting.
11) Predict: who's the Nintendo fan most likely to be banned from this site during E3 Week? My answer: Me.
12) Wild-card prediction: anything else? Nintendo will revive a super obscure franchise/Microsoft gets rather poor actors to demo Kinect (again)/Sony chops the Vita price down to 200 smackers.
Well, that's what I got. Any other takers?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 24, 2012, 11:42:00 AM
The GIFs that BnM posted around last year's E3 were so huge they crashed my browser. They were funny, though. :)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on May 24, 2012, 02:09:01 PM
I hear it's not just his gifs that are huge
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 24, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
Yeah, his rumor roundup post has gotten pretty large as well. :)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on May 24, 2012, 05:57:58 PM
Nintendo will finally announce a release date for Project Hammer, 'Space Walk', 'Vitality Fit'. It will also be revealed that Nintendo has partnered with Silicon Knights to make Eternal Darkness 2...*wakes up*
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 24, 2012, 06:25:46 PM
Super Mario Bros. 2 (no the Doki Doki Panic version...the Lost Levels version) will finally get translated and released for the NES.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Lithium on May 24, 2012, 07:11:37 PM
mario's. ear-ly. years. 2. will. be. ann-ounced. for. wii. U
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 24, 2012, 07:25:27 PM
Nintendo 3DS will be getting a revision announcement a little after E3, I think it will still be in June. Remember Iwata said "By the end of the next fiscal term, we won't be selling the system below cost." So I say a new version is coming. Not like you can just jack the price up without some sort of retribution. Or maybe they just plan to bundle it with a game, and increase the price by 30 dollars.
If Nintendo just ups the price, than fans will be pretty upset. Especially the ones who haven't bought it yet.
Nintendo can sell the 3DS below cost because the price of components will be significantly cheaper by then. It has nothing to do with a revision or remodel.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 24, 2012, 07:29:40 PM
Pretty much every meme ever made condensed into one super GIF.
That pic of Kermit the Frog makes me want a new Muppet Show. Good thing the latest movie was such a success, it may convince Disney to produce a new Muppet Show.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 25, 2012, 02:23:28 PM
Dragon Quest X wii u launch game. Crackdown 3 Vita fails to impress
Hey shingi, I haven't seen you in a while. Do you still post on GoNintendo?
And all I want for the Wii U is the following:
- personalized Mii's (like on the 3DS) - Friend requests (the only thing keeping the 3DS from being completely amazing) - game invites - leaderboards and matchmaking for all online games - OS-based voice & video chat through the Wii U controller - Swapnote with color ink
That's it.
Yep gonintendo and nintendolife still.
Hoping for a new metroid prime hunters and as far as conferences go its
Nintendo Microsoft Sony
For me.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 25, 2012, 03:26:58 PM
Hoping for a new metroid prime hunters and as far as conferences go its
Nintendo Microsoft Sony
For me.
Aside from Halo 4, I can't see Microsoft announcing anything really amazing this year. Kinect Kinect Kinect, it's like a drug to them.
Halo 4 Fable Herpes Forza Horizon New Woodstock music service Two first party unannounced games for retail Deadlight Mark of ninja Dust an elysian tale Twisted pixels new game
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 25, 2012, 07:56:11 PM
Hoping for a new metroid prime hunters and as far as conferences go its
Nintendo Microsoft Sony
For me.
Aside from Halo 4, I can't see Microsoft announcing anything really amazing this year. Kinect Kinect Kinect, it's like a drug to them.
Halo 4 Fable Herpes Forza Horizon New Woodstock music service Two first party unannounced games for retail Deadlight Mark of ninja Dust an elysian tale Twisted pixels new game
I wouldn't put it past Peter Molyneux to make a game called Fable Herpes.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on May 25, 2012, 08:00:14 PM
My prediction is that Nintendo will introduce a CCP type controller that connects directly to the Wii U without needing to plug in to a WM+. They kind of have to since it's still possible that only one uPad will work per console, and everyone already has Wii accessories that will carry over. Nintendo has to cash in on selling accessories somehow.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 25, 2012, 08:18:36 PM
Damn kindle keyboard meant fable the journey.
Not sure why a ccp wont connect to the system directly.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: fixyourface0814 on May 25, 2012, 08:29:42 PM
I'm sure Herpes will be quite the journey, indeed.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on May 25, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
More predictions:
Star Wars: The Old Republic and Diablo 3 will be announced for the Wii U.
Virtual Console will be announced for the Wii U eShop. Games bought on the service will be streamable to the uMote, but VC games transfered from the Wii will not be compatible. The consumer must repurchase those games on the Wii U eShop in oreder to stream them to the uMote.
Resident Evil 6 will be announced for the Wii U with a release date for sometime in 2013.
All of the delayed games for 2012 going into 2013 will be announced for the Wii U.
Castlevania: Lords of Shadow 2 will be announced for the Wii U.
Black Ops 2 will be announced for the Wii U as a launch title.
The Wii U will support SDXC media.
The Wii U revision will include a built-in HDD port.
The Wii U will be more powerful than the PS3, but nintendo will use third parties to fluant it for them.
Nintendo will announce HD versions of Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Skyward Sword, Ocarina of Time (3DS), and finally Majora's Mask for the Wii U eShop.
Majora's Mask 3DS will be announced with a release date of winter 2012.
Gamecube, Dreamcast, SEGA CD, 32X and Saturn will be announced for the Wii U Virtual Console.
Jet Set Radio will be announced for the Wii U eShop.
A new Sonic game will be announced as an exclusive to the Wii U.
Sonic the Hedgehog 4 part 2 will be announced for the Wii U eShop.
Hitman: Absolution will announced as a Wii U launch title.
Cartain DS and 3DS games will be announced as HD versions for the Wii eShop.
Dan Houser from Rockstar Games will announce GTA 5 for the Wii U alongside Reggie on stage.
Various figure heads from major third party developers will stand with Reggie and Iwata and announce their support for the Wii U.
A new Star Fox game for the Wii U that being developed by Retro Studios.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 25, 2012, 11:03:16 PM
Gamecube, Dreamcast, SEGA CD, 32X and Saturn will be announced for the Wii U Virtual Console.
32X? Not a chance. No one cared about that add-on. And the only worthwhile game on the Sega CD was Sonic CD.
Snatcher Cosmic Carnage would like to have a word with you.
So would Lunar: The Silver Star and Lunar: Eternal Blue. Sure, they both got remade (The Silver Star got remade a couple times) but people still cared about them enough to justify the remakes.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 26, 2012, 08:20:56 AM
Star Wars: The Old Republic and Diablo 3 will be announced for the Wii U.
I'll see you a Star Wars: The Old Republic and raise you a Final Fantasy XIV v2.0.
The lead director on the game, Naoki Yoshida has already expressed interest in bringing the game over to Wii U. We'll see...
Why would square release a game that completely completes with their other big franchise on wii u. No way Final Fantasy is Bing put on the same system as Dragon Quest X. In ulna may e but not when they are trying to build the franchise in the west and there is high probability that the west will only get the wii u version of dragon quest x.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on May 26, 2012, 09:53:57 AM
Star Wars: The Old Republic and Diablo 3 will be announced for the Wii U.
I'll see you a Star Wars: The Old Republic and raise you a Final Fantasy XIV v2.0.
The lead director on the game, Naoki Yoshida has already expressed interest in bringing the game over to Wii U. We'll see...
Why would square release a game that completely completes with their other big franchise on wii u. No way Final Fantasy is Bing put on the same system as Dragon Quest X. In ulna may e but not when they are trying to build the franchise in the west and there is high probability that the west will only get the wii u version of dragon quest x.
Fun fact. Westerners don't really care too much for Dragon Quest (though, I really do). There's room for FFXIV and DQX to both appear on the same console. Options, man. Options! Give people the choice.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 26, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Dragon Quest is a given and Diablo 3 I double dip for console controls. SWTOR Might translate ok but not great.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 26, 2012, 12:38:46 PM
Yeah but they're trying to build the Dragon Quest Franchise in the west. And you don't want to push or launch two big MMOs in the west at the same time. Plus I don't see the Wii U getting it before the PS3 does. I can see FF coming but its going to. E a fairly large gap between that and dragon quest.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on May 26, 2012, 12:45:32 PM
Of course the PS3 version is coming first -- it's listed to be released 1st quarter of 2013. But what you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying, "Why would Nintendo want to release a competing platformer like Donkey Kong Country Returns when it already has the established New Super Mario Bros. Wii?"
No. Give people choices. Life is more fun that way.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Shaymin on May 26, 2012, 02:44:33 PM
If a game with always-online DRM came to a Nintendo system, I'd excrete a house.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 26, 2012, 05:54:30 PM
Gamecube, Dreamcast, SEGA CD, 32X and Saturn will be announced for the Wii U Virtual Console.
32X? Not a chance. No one cared about that add-on. And the only worthwhile game on the Sega CD was Sonic CD.
Snatcher Cosmic Carnage would like to have a word with you.
So would Lunar: The Silver Star and Lunar: Eternal Blue. Sure, they both got remade (The Silver Star got remade a couple times) but people still cared about them enough to justify the remakes.
Wait, are you talking about 32X games or Sega CD games?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Adrock on May 26, 2012, 06:00:46 PM
You said the only worthwhile game on Sega CD is Sonic CD and I disagree.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 26, 2012, 10:03:50 PM
Power Rangers FTW.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 27, 2012, 12:10:03 PM
Of course the PS3 version is coming first -- it's listed to be released 1st quarter of 2013. But what you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying, "Why would Nintendo want to release a competing platformer like Donkey Kong Country Returns when it already has the established New Super Mario Bros. Wii?"
No. Give people choices. Life is more fun that way.
Cant really compare those type of genres. MMMos live and doe by their subscriber base and unlike Final Fantasy 14 Dragon Quest 10 os a mainline DQ game. That's a risky move and Dragon Quest doesn't have as many games as Final Fantasy meaning this has to be a success. The games announcment itsself caused SE's stock to drop and Dragon Quest is very popular in Japan. From a Profitability standpoint it makes no sense to have two big MMO's from the same company compete with each other. Choice has mo effect in the matter if it splits the userbase of both games right? Why do you think blizzard is just now working on another mmo.
Plus Nintendo has arguably exclusivity on Dragon Quest and Handles the marketing for the series in the west. And there is more money to be made on having The games exclusive by player base Imo.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on May 27, 2012, 12:26:04 PM
Of course the PS3 version is coming first -- it's listed to be released 1st quarter of 2013. But what you're suggesting is the equivalent of saying, "Why would Nintendo want to release a competing platformer like Donkey Kong Country Returns when it already has the established New Super Mario Bros. Wii?"
No. Give people choices. Life is more fun that way.
Cant really compare those type of genres. MMMos live and doe by their subscriber base and unlike Final Fantasy 14 Dragon Quest 10 os a mainline DQ game. That's a risky move and Dragon Quest doesn't have as many games as Final Fantasy meaning this has to be a success. The games announcment itsself caused SE's stock to drop and Dragon Quest is very popular in Japan. From a Profitability standpoint it makes no sense to have two big MMO's from the same company compete with each other. Choice has mo effect in the matter if it splits the userbase of both games right? Why do you think blizzard is just now working on another mmo.
Plus Nintendo has arguably exclusivity on Dragon Quest and Handles the marketing for the series in the west. And there is more money to be made on having The games exclusive by player base Imo.
No, no, no, no, no. You can't say that. Illogical thinking.
Final Fantasy XIV is too a mainline FF game. It's IN THE TITLE. Derp. Just because it's online - which DQX is, TOO - doesn't mean it's not a mainline game. Was FFXI not a mainline FF title? Of course it was, and it was a fantastic one at that. And so what if it caused SE's stock to drop? The majority of stockholders are blithering idiots who've never touched a game controller in their lives. And yes, you CAN compare those differing genres because, honestly, it doesn't matter. A game genre is a game genre is a game genre. Did Nintendo screw themselves releasing DKCR and Kirby's Epic Yarn within the span of a couple months...even though they're both platformers?! Of course not. Both games sold decently well for being competing games in the same genre on the same system.
And Blizzard's only finally working on a new MMO because WoW is OLD. Old, man. Time for them to update everything.
Nice try, though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Ceric on May 27, 2012, 12:53:50 PM
I like to step in on Blizzard Finally making a new MMO. Their has been clear signs they've been working on a new MMO since Burning Crusades. The problem being they do not have a franchise that could make that transition like Warcraft could. There going to need to make a new property and then something that is just as appealing and addictive as WoW, but isn't WoW or Diablo on a mechanics level. Think how long it took them to put out Diablo III or Starcraft II (Which I can see SCII, but Diablo III hasn't yet proven to me that it is more than a Diablo II expansion and warrant the time they took on it.)
They've been working on it a while, but its hard to make a New WoW. Just ask Rift, Lord of the Ring, SWTOR, etc.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 27, 2012, 10:00:42 PM
Rayman Origin being kn the eshop the day of the conference along with many previous 3DS games.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 27, 2012, 10:28:30 PM
I like to step in on Blizzard Finally making a new MMO. Their has been clear signs they've been working on a new MMO since Burning Crusades. The problem being they do not have a franchise that could make that transition like Warcraft could. There going to need to make a new property and then something that is just as appealing and addictive as WoW, but isn't WoW or Diablo on a mechanics level. Think how long it took them to put out Diablo III or Starcraft II (Which I can see SCII, but Diablo III hasn't yet proven to me that it is more than a Diablo II expansion and warrant the time they took on it.)
They've been working on it a while, but its hard to make a New WoW. Just ask Rift, Lord of the Ring, SWTOR, etc.
A majority of WoW players are casual who had no prior exposure to the Warcraft series.
I think a Diablo MMO would be perfect.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on May 27, 2012, 11:45:40 PM
I thought I would ask this here. Where do you guys plan to watch E3?
I plan to watch it on Spike. Bandwidth sucks.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 28, 2012, 12:50:28 AM
Microsoft's conference: Microsoft isn't advertising an E3 page on Xbox.com, but I did find this, http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Community/E3 (http://www.xbox.com/en-US/Community/E3) (but the page is from E3 2011)
PS: I used Google's "Screen Capture" extension for Chrome. I love all the extensions that Chrome has, too bad IE9 and Safari don't have as many.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 28, 2012, 01:22:07 AM
Not a rumor, but I just watched the Game Trailers Top 10 anticipated E3 games, and WiiU was #1.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on May 28, 2012, 06:16:45 AM
Not a prediction either.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 28, 2012, 10:25:02 AM
So all details about Final Fantasy XIV 2.0 console. Version wont be at E3. The Pc game however will.
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/threads/46535
Hoping SE does something cool as there line up looks pretty sparse I can only recall
Kingdom Hearts DReam Drop Distance Heroes of ruin Final Fantasy music game Tomb Raider Hitmwn
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 28, 2012, 10:36:10 AM
Hoping SE does something cool as there line up looks pretty sparse I can only recall
Kingdom Hearts DReam Drop Distance Heroes of ruin Final Fantasy music game Tomb Raider Hitmwn
You read the Letter from the Producer incorrectly. FFXIV v2.0 will be there, just not the big CG trailer that everyone was expecting - and was listed in last year's PDF documents. Marketing for the game will begin at E3, as will the actual game for folks to try out. And shortly after E3's over, the v2.0 promotional site will be launched.
As was said in the letter, instead of a trickle of info at E3 (that being the trailer), we'll be getting an explosive amount of info.
EDIT: Just noticed you mentioned the PS3 version won't be at E3, but the PC will be! Sorry for that mistake!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 28, 2012, 12:07:08 PM
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 28, 2012, 12:17:22 PM
If we consider Facebook (Zynga) games to be legit video games, then surely fan made Flash games are as well... What about all those webgames on random websites? They're all games right?
(sarcasm)
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Dasmos on May 28, 2012, 12:23:14 PM
What would you call them if not video games?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on May 28, 2012, 03:10:45 PM
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 28, 2012, 03:34:33 PM
interactive electrical situations
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 28, 2012, 04:16:11 PM
I loved on the Simpsons that time when Groundskeeper Willy thought Space Invaders wasn't a game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: ThomasO on May 30, 2012, 12:02:30 AM
I have the feeling that Epic Mickey 2 will make an appearance at this year's E3, at Nintendo or something else. It won't get the stage presence it got at E3 2010, but it'll be there as one of Wii's final games.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 30, 2012, 12:55:45 AM
@Kytim89's prediction-fest: As for Sonic, I think Sega's sitting on rocky ground right now- I don't think they're going for a new game any time soon, and they stated that they haven't found a use for the Wii U controller in a Sonic game. There was a rumor last year about "Sonic Dimensions" but that proved to be false. I think Sega's reworking Sonic right now and it may be another year or so before we see him on a console again. Generations did just come out recently.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on May 30, 2012, 12:57:54 AM
@Kytim89's prediction-fest: As for Sonic, I think Sega's sitting on rocky ground right now- I don't think they're going for a new game any time soon, and they stated that they haven't found a use for the Wii U controller in a Sonic game. There was a rumor last year about "Sonic Dimensions" but that proved to be false. I think Sega's reworking Sonic right now and it may be another year or so before we see him on a console again. Generations did just come out recently.
Sonic Chronicles 2 developed by Bioware for the 3DS.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 30, 2012, 01:05:31 AM
Oh, well... yes, perhaps.
The first Chronicles was a mixed affair, at best.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on May 30, 2012, 01:05:49 AM
they stated that they haven't found a use for the Wii U controller in a Sonic game.
They will cling to any excuse not to support Nintendo hardware. Another case in point would be how they wouldn't bring Generations to the Wii on the basis that the Wii doesn't support HD, as if a standard definition version of that game couldn't have been done. With the Wii U they no longer have that excuse, so they had to find another one.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on May 30, 2012, 01:09:45 AM
But... Sonic Colors... was so good...
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on May 30, 2012, 01:53:11 AM
They will cling to any excuse not to support Nintendo hardware. Another case in point would be how they wouldn't bring Generations to the Wii on the basis that the Wii doesn't support HD, as if a standard definition version of that game couldn't have been done. With the Wii U they no longer have that excuse, so they had to find another one.
I'm still expecting Generations to hit the Wii U since Sonic games sell the best on Nintendo platforms and it'd be easy to have a port ready for the Wii U launch. It'd be the cheapest and easiest money Sega could make off the Wii U right away. Of course Sega isn't well known for making good business decisions so maybe I shouldn't bet on it. :-\
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: RABicle on May 30, 2012, 11:23:20 AM
The angle I'm working on this year is that Reggie will lead the journalists around the show floor and throw them at various 'enemies'
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 31, 2012, 04:24:59 PM
I'm still expecting Generations to hit the Wii U since Sonic games sell the best on Nintendo platforms and it'd be easy to have a port ready for the Wii U launch. It'd be the cheapest and easiest money Sega could make off the Wii U right away. Of course Sega isn't well known for making good business decisions so maybe I shouldn't bet on it. :-\
Sonic Generations with more levels, exclusive to Wii U.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Caterkiller on May 31, 2012, 07:34:55 PM
I'm still expecting Generations to hit the Wii U since Sonic games sell the best on Nintendo platforms and it'd be easy to have a port ready for the Wii U launch. It'd be the cheapest and easiest money Sega could make off the Wii U right away. Of course Sega isn't well known for making good business decisions so maybe I shouldn't bet on it. :-\
Sonic Generations with more levels, exclusive to Wii U.
With playable Tails and Kunckles in all stages!
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on May 31, 2012, 08:05:08 PM
I'm still expecting Generations to hit the Wii U since Sonic games sell the best on Nintendo platforms and it'd be easy to have a port ready for the Wii U launch. It'd be the cheapest and easiest money Sega could make off the Wii U right away. Of course Sega isn't well known for making good business decisions so maybe I shouldn't bet on it. :-\
Sonic Generations with more levels, exclusive to Wii U.
With playable Tails and Kunckles in all stages!
And more Genesis-style bosses, and more appearances by Classic Eggman (Robotnik).
It should have been called the real "Sonic 4".
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on May 31, 2012, 10:02:27 PM
Soxnintendo is the only one this year who wont be livestreaming from there own products. :(
So Microsoft should be seeing these in no given order
Halo 4 Forza : Horizon Fable The Journey Twisted Pixels new game The new Gears of war Summer of arcade games Maybe ryse (if not pushed back to next gen) South Park the game by THQ Splinter Cell Blacklist by ubisoft Something by square enix A new music game by Harmonix probably black ops II windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 games and Inyeraction Woodstock musk service revealed Maybe the xbox kinect fitness stuff probably skype along with other apps Internet Explorer on xbox hopefully a tease of next gen
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on May 31, 2012, 11:50:56 PM
Last minute predictions:
The Grinder will be announced for both the Wii and Wii U.
Conduit 3 reveal trailer will be shown and it will be for the Wii U.
Biggest prediction of all: Star Fox will be shown and it will be developed by Retro Studios, but ti will not be a launch titile.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 01, 2012, 12:08:34 AM
I predict Nintendo will unveil the first 3DS revision, which will incorporate a larger battery as well as the CPP integrated by default. Other possibilities include a larger screen, and perhaps analog sticks as opposed to the circle pads. But whether they keep the circle pads or move towards the more popular sticks, either way the important thing is that there be two.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on June 01, 2012, 12:37:20 AM
The Grinder will be announced for both the Wii and Wii U.
Conduit 3 reveal trailer will be shown and it will be for the Wii U.
Biggest prediction of all: Star Fox will be shown and it will be developed by Retro Studios, but ti will not be a launch titile.
WHOA. Wait, you think there's going to be a STARFOX game at E3? That's nuts.
However, I would fully support the Grinder for Wii and Wii U. That game looked effin' badass.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2012, 02:26:13 PM
Hopefully True Crime: Tokyo Sleeping Dogs gets announced for Wii U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya-VGgmcl5M (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya-VGgmcl5M)
This game looks pretty damn good.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Sarail on June 02, 2012, 02:38:23 PM
Wow. There is a whole ton of content in that game. Color me intrigued.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 02, 2012, 06:05:31 PM
Soxnintendo is the only one this year who wont be livestreaming from there own products. :(
So Microsoft should be seeing these in no given order
Halo 4 Forza : Horizon Fable The Journey Twisted Pixels new game The new Gears of war Summer of arcade games Maybe ryse (if not pushed back to next gen) South Park the game by THQ Splinter Cell Blacklist by ubisoft Something by square enix A new music game by Harmonix probably black ops II windows 8 and Windows Phone 8 games and Inyeraction Woodstock musk service revealed Maybe the xbox kinect fitness stuff probably skype along with other apps Internet Explorer on xbox hopefully a tease of next gen
All stuff that has been announced and leaked before E3. Are there any surprises left? Same situation with Sony.
Nintendo's conference will be a complete surprise to everyone. With the Nintendo Direct on Sunday, and the Developer Roundtable on Tuesday night, we should all be in for a treat.
I wish Sony and Microsoft did stuff like this.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 02, 2012, 08:10:35 PM
I don't. Its good that Nintendo steals the hype at E3 year after year. If you are a true "tendoboy" you would agree.
Yeah, but now the Xbox and PlayStation fanboys have no surprises to look forward to. Most of the big games for those systems have been leaked / announced already.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: shingi_70 on June 03, 2012, 07:06:03 AM
Well there is the durango being announced at Microsoft's press conference. Major Nelson is having an interview Monday with a dev who currently is only working on a game for PC,tablets and next gen game system. Also someone has pointed to a bologna teasing Alan Wake 2 which is mostly a next gen game.
http://thishouseofdreams.blogspot.com/?m=0
And most of it is bound to leak as Microsoft and Sony usually have a few people come to them before E3 and go over what will be there expect a few stuff like the xbox 360 slim in 2010 and Halo 4 last year. Microsoft and Sony really don't need E3 as much as nintendo does.
Plus While Nintendo not showing anything may just blow us away when they do there really is the off chance that the wii u is kind of Meh.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 03, 2012, 04:00:20 PM
That was the reaction to its unveiling at last year's E3. That was why their stock dropped because investors weren't impressed by it and didn't think it was very innovative. There was also a lot of disappointment among the online fan community as well, but there mainly because the name and appearance were so similar to that of the Wii and there wasn't really any games shown off.
This year will hopefully different because hopefully there will be a lot of software to show off for it, unlike the tech demos we saw last year.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Evan_B on June 03, 2012, 07:55:11 PM
Tuesday's gonna be all games...
ALL GAMES.
*Squeal*
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on June 04, 2012, 03:39:27 PM
After watching the pre E3 Nintendo Direct. I'm sure we all know what 90% of the show is going to be about. Wii U. I was actually looking forward to 3DS though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kairon on June 04, 2012, 04:39:32 PM
Nintendo keeps surprising me at how aggressive they can be when they want to be. Poor 3DS, being put in a corner...
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 04, 2012, 04:54:36 PM
OH lawdy lawdy, Nintendo's done a shitty job at this E3, and that's even considering how crappy this expo's been so far.
Miyamoto was there for one game. Reggie took too much time on stage. Iwata was absent. The conference was nothing but casual 1st-party games, 3rd-party ports, and Mario.
No hype, no bomb dropping, no megatons.
At least Iwata did a good job on his "Nintendo Direct" videos. I learned more watching those than I did watching the press conference.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 06, 2012, 12:17:58 AM
Oh my god, that skit with the dude trying to beat the zombie boss was so terrible.
"Just call me grandpa." :Q
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 06, 2012, 12:24:07 AM
OH lawdy lawdy, Nintendo's done a shitty job at this E3, and that's even considering how crappy this expo's been so far.
Miyamoto was there for one game. Reggie took too much time on stage. Iwata was absent. The conference was nothing but casual 1st-party games, 3rd-party ports, and Mario.
No hype, no bomb dropping, no megatons.
At least Iwata did a good job on his "Nintendo Direct" videos. I learned more watching those than I did watching the press conference.
...I agree? Why did you quote my response?
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tora on June 07, 2012, 12:00:58 AM
Yeah, in my opinion he didn't kick any ass and the name taking was cut to a minimal. Not to mention there was no bombs. Not even a reset bomb :-[
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Tamazoid on June 08, 2012, 02:32:28 AM
Mass Effect 3 is the bomb according to Reggie. . . . .
Though seriously I have a feeling that it's going to be more than a direct port of ME 3
I'm probably wrong though.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: nickmitch on June 08, 2012, 12:56:37 PM
ME3 is the bomb according to people who've been playing already. And it won't be a direct port, it'll have that new ending people were bitching for.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Louieturkey on June 08, 2012, 01:43:12 PM
ME3 is the bomb according to people who've been playing already. And it won't be a direct port, it'll have that new ending people were bitching for.
The new ending is available to everyone already. At least that is how I understand it.
The ending DLC hasn't been released yet, but it will be available for free supposedly sometime later this summer for all the previous versions of the game.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 08, 2012, 07:44:26 PM
I kinda wish Kytime's prediction of the name changing to "Super Wii" had come true. I'm not a fan of the "Wii" name period, but at least "Super Wii" would clearly indicate its a new and better product to the current system. "Wii U" is not only stupid, but it's confusing. Uninformed consumers will just assume the "Wii U" refers to the tablet controller, and the Wii U system (which looks identical to the Wii) is just a Wii revision that tacks on HD support.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Kytim89 on June 08, 2012, 11:17:01 PM
I kinda wish Kytime's prediction of the name changing to "Super Wii" had come true. I'm not a fan of the "Wii" name period, but at least "Super Wii" would clearly indicate its a new and better product to the current system. "Wii U" is not only stupid, but it's confusing. Uninformed consumers will just assume the "Wii U" refers to the tablet controller, and the Wii U system (which looks identical to the Wii) is just a Wii revision that tacks on HD support.
A few days ago I was in a Gamestop when a mother and son walked into the store. They asked the lady working for Gamestop if they had Diablo 3. The Gamestop lady asked what kind of computer they had at home. The lady said, and I quote, "We have a Windows 98 that we bought in 1996 (or 1998, I can't remmeber)." The Gamestop Lady responded by telling the mother that there was no way that a computer that old could run any of the PC games that were on their shelves. Later, the mother said, "How about that Wii U? It is going to kick ass. So much better than the Wii right now." This gives me hope that the Wii U will be successful.
Wii = Clark Kent and Super Wii = Super Man.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: tendoboy1984 on June 09, 2012, 01:23:43 AM
A few days ago I was in a Gamestop when a mother and son walked into the store. They asked the lady working for Gamestop if they had Diablo 3. The Gamestop lady asked what kind of computer they had at home. The lady said, and I quote, "We have a Windows 98 that we bought in 1996 (or 1998, I can't remmeber)." The Gamestop Lady responded by telling the mother that there was no way that a computer that old could run any of the PC games that were on their shelves. Later, the mother said, "How about that Wii U? It is going to kick ass. So much better than the Wii right now." This gives me hope that the Wii U will be successful.
Wii = Clark Kent and Super Wii = Super Man.
Ha that's classic! It's funny that the lady didn't know that about her computer, but she knows about the Wii U.
Title: Re: E3 2012 Predictions
Post by: Chozo Ghost on June 09, 2012, 01:31:07 AM
