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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1475 on: April 27, 2007, 04:43:24 PM »
I thought of this a few weeks ago, but I didn't want to resurrect this topic again.  However, since someone else brought it back...

In Melee (and maybe the original), you know when you get knocked off the platform and you can't control your character for a bit while you're flying through the air.  What if, in team, you could grab your teammate in the air and throw him back on the platform. Adds a bit more strategy to team matches.

Also, I kind of hope Sonic, Nights, Ryu Hayabusa (Ninja Gaiden), KOS-MOS make it. They've all made news recently on Nintendo platforms so it'd be nice to see them in. I'm not giving up on Belmont though!

This is kind of minor: I hope they redesign Samus to match her Prime 3 suit. I just like it more. They re-did her suit to match Retro's designs for Hunters so you never know.  

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1476 on: April 27, 2007, 06:09:09 PM »
Adrock:  I kinda like your idea.  It could basically be implemented like an air throw.  Characters with air throws can grab and toss team mates that have been smashed back to the field, but it would cause damage.

Nice thinking.

IceCold:  I never doubted that Smash Brothers Brawl was moving ahead at a quick pace.  I mean, the game is being developed by a design team hand picked because of their love for the series, and Nintendo supplied the team with the original code for Melee intact.  

It shouldn't really take too long to add a few characters, create better balance/new moves,  and design online play for the game.

Brawl is going to be awesome, and It still should be this years big Christmas holiday game.



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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1477 on: April 27, 2007, 06:53:29 PM »
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They re-did her suit to match Retro's designs for Hunters so you never know.

What do you mean "re-did"?  Hunters is part of the Prime series.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1478 on: April 27, 2007, 08:22:30 PM »
I HATE the suit of Prime 3, I still think the best one has been the one in the original Prime. I admit the differences are negligible but theres something about this new suit that doesn't seem right, it has more noticeable curves, is almost like they wanted to make obvious is a woman in a suit.  
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1479 on: April 28, 2007, 09:09:03 AM »
EDIT: Apparently, Brawl and Galaxy have been confirmed for this year by Iwata himself. This is supposedly from an IGN podcast. There's no mention of whether this is just Japan or otherwise. Hmm, I wonder where this puts Metroid Prime 3. I, as always, remain skeptical, but at least this is something to go on.

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What do you mean "re-did"? Hunters is part of the Prime series.

Oh sh*t, really? Metroid Prime Hunters is part of the Prime series........ Jeez, look at the original art for Hunters, then look at the Hunters game case. The most obvious difference is Samus' visor.  

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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1480 on: April 28, 2007, 11:53:01 AM »
I would not be surprised if Brawl was first released in the States like Metroid Prime.  I think the series had longer legs here then in Japan.
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1481 on: April 28, 2007, 12:23:31 PM »
Yes, and no more Japan-only characters, thanks.
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RE:Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1482 on: April 28, 2007, 09:28:10 PM »
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Yes, and no more Japan-only characters, thanks.


But Japan-only characters in Brawl would perhaps suggest that additional Japan-only IP's may be localized (eg Melee and Fire Emblem). I don't see a massive problem with the strategy.
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« Reply #1483 on: April 28, 2007, 11:23:05 PM »
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This is what Kojima had to say about Smash Bros recently..

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...Hideo Kojima took centre-stage and also managed to get a quick game of Wii Smash Bros in with the designer.

Speaking in a recent podcast Kojima is quoted as saying that the Wii bruiser feels "very complete", "a lot of fun" and claims that it could be released tomorrow, selling millions if Nintendo desired to be so radical (we're not holding our breath).

The two also locked horns in a Smash Bros. Brawl one-on-one, Sakurai as Mario and Kojima as Snake (naturally). According to the MGS creator he went easy on Mario and was unable to chin the friendly-looking plumber, but we reckon he was just rubbish.



Sounds to me like what's holding them back is the online functionality...

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« Reply #1484 on: April 29, 2007, 12:46:58 AM »
Its quite funny how the orginal translation said he went easy on mario, yet websites being dodgy along the way, it turned into "dared not to touch mario"

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« Reply #1485 on: April 29, 2007, 05:23:46 AM »
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Originally posted by: blackfootsteps But Japan-only characters in Brawl would perhaps suggest that additional Japan-only IP's may be localized (eg Melee and Fire Emblem). I don't see a massive problem with the strategy.


Yeah, but you still can't play the games Roy and Marth starred in in English without a hacked rom.
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« Reply #1486 on: April 29, 2007, 11:25:43 AM »
Well Sakurai has said they wont be putting in any Japan only characters in Brawl, so that answers that question.  But he did say since Marth and Roy became so popular to the rest of the world, that a Japan only Fire Emblem character might be in.  

But I'm guessing by his comment he ment that they'll be leaving Marth in the game because of how popular he became around the world, while all other characters will have to be from games released outside of Japan.

And on the issue of when Brawl will be released, I'm guessing a November North American release date now.  From Kojima's comments it sounds like they got the actually gameplay down, with all the characters having complete movesets and any new mechanics to the gameplay done.  So right now all the characters we've seen so far are all 100% done.

My guess is what they're doing right now is trying to get the online to run as smoothly as possible, and adding in some last minute characters and stages.
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« Reply #1487 on: May 01, 2007, 04:20:14 AM »
Do you guys think that the characters from Gunstar Heroes would work very well?  It would be awesome to have the possibility of the weapons in that game somehow.  Also the throwing attack would be easier but much less powerful to stay true to the game.  The throw would be either A or B to give the game more diversity.  What do you guys think?

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« Reply #1488 on: May 01, 2007, 05:11:39 AM »
I liked the trophies and characters from Japan because it let me see some of what I'm missing.
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« Reply #1489 on: May 01, 2007, 05:40:04 AM »
I'd say the characters from Gunstar Super Heroes are more likely.

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« Reply #1490 on: May 01, 2007, 06:40:11 AM »
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Well Sakurai has said they wont be putting in any Japan only characters in Brawl, so that answers that question.  But he did say since Marth and Roy became so popular to the rest of the world, that a Japan only Fire Emblem character might be in.  

But I'm guessing by his comment he ment that they'll be leaving Marth in the game because of how popular he became around the world, while all other characters will have to be from games released outside of Japan.


Sakurai story from last year

He didn't say he was considering only Fire Emblem characters out of the Japan-only lot, he was just using them as an example. Even so, Sakurai probably isn't too eager to try it again unless they can find a character of the same stature as Marth (who I think they'll carry over, but not Roy).

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« Reply #1491 on: May 02, 2007, 06:43:57 AM »
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« Reply #1492 on: May 02, 2007, 01:08:34 PM »
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Well Sakurai has said they wont be putting in any Japan only characters in Brawl, so that answers that question.  But he did say since Marth and Roy became so popular to the rest of the world, that a Japan only Fire Emblem character might be in.  

But I'm guessing by his comment he ment that they'll be leaving Marth in the game because of how popular he became around the world, while all other characters will have to be from games released outside of Japan.


Sakurai story from last year

He didn't say he was considering only Fire Emblem characters out of the Japan-only lot, he was just using them as an example. Even so, Sakurai probably isn't too eager to try it again unless they can find a character of the same stature as Marth (who I think they'll carry over, but not Roy).


I would mind if they added more new japan-only characters in but, I would boyc0tt SSBB if they just keep Marth in the game but kick out Roy. Even though Marth maybe played more because he's unbalanced in melee but there's no way that he's more popular than Roy. Marth is bland and dosen't really have much personality to him, while Roy dose have a good personality and is more colorful. (and he can set enemies, and himself, on fire )
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RE: Super Smash Bros. Brawl
« Reply #1493 on: May 02, 2007, 01:35:27 PM »
But Marth is prettier than Roy.
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« Reply #1494 on: May 02, 2007, 01:36:37 PM »
But Marth is more popular then Roy.  Marth was the star of the very first Fire Emblem and it's sequel Mystery of the Emblem, which is the highest selling Fire Emblem in Japan to this day.  Marth is the icon of the series in Japan, when people think of Fire Emblem, they think of Marth.  That's why Marth was put in the Melee first as the character to represent Fire Emblem while Roy was thrown in last minute as a way of advertising the upcoming Sword of Seals which was released in Japan 6 months later.

Plus Roy is the star of what alot of Japanese fans consider, the worst Fire Emblem.  Roy is not very popular in Japan because of that, and sense his game was never released outside of Japan, there's no reason for him to remain.  

Even though Marth game was never released outside of Japan as well, the fact that he's loved by the Japanese, the icon of the series, and also loved by American's because of his popularity in Melee pretty much confirms he'll be back.
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« Reply #1495 on: May 02, 2007, 02:17:00 PM »
While I liked Roy more, Luigi Dude is right about Marth's place as the most recognizable Fire Emblem character and the only one to appear in more than one game in the series. I don't expect Roy back (unless he's an alternate costume or something), but I'd be very surprised if Marth doesn't make the cut.

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« Reply #1496 on: May 02, 2007, 02:57:13 PM »
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While I liked Roy more, Luigi Dude is right about Marth's place as the most recognizable Fire Emblem character and the only one to appear in more than one game in the series.


Actually that's not true anymore which brings me up to who I say is going to be the Fire Emblem character that will replace Roy as the second character to represent Fire Emblem.  

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Ike returns halfway through the game and becomes the main character for the second half.  This makes him the only other Fire Emblem character besides Marth to be the star of 2 games, which is huge.  And since Ike is already known by the rest of the world and was the star of the two most recent Fire Emblem, I say he's in 100%

Plus from what I've heard the Japanese Fire Emblem fanbase also loves Ike since his Fire Emblem's have returned the series to how it was in FE4 and FE5, which are they're favorites.  So since he's also liked by the Japanese that makes him appearing even move obvious.

 
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« Reply #1497 on: May 02, 2007, 03:15:39 PM »
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Even though Marth game was never released outside of Japan as well...


That's true... however, we did get the anime OAV released here that he was the main character of:

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« Reply #1498 on: May 02, 2007, 03:53:56 PM »
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Actually that's not true anymore which brings me up to who I say is going to be the Fire Emblem character that will replace Roy as the second character to represent Fire Emblem.

You know, if you really want to be technical, I totally forgot that the first 2 GBA Fire Emblem titles, Sword of Seals and Blazing Sword, games exist in the same FE universe though you're right, Marth and Ike are the only two FE characters to star in 2 separate games. The only thing is that they kind of look alike and since Goddess of Dawn is the most recent title, I would expect Ike to replace Marth. Again, costumes would sort-of solve that, but then, purists wouldn't like that at all.

I don't know who I would choose if I had to pick one. There are also many other FE characters to choose from and I think the series should be well represented in Brawl. Black Knight would be pretty cool.

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« Reply #1499 on: May 02, 2007, 06:11:17 PM »
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Yes, and no more Japan-only characters, thanks.


If there were no Japanese characters in the u.s. wouldn't brawl be assumed to not be online between regions. i.e. a states player vs. Japanese player vs. some British guy
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