Topic: Switch Discussion Thread (Year 3: But where are the folders??!?!)

[nickmitch]

Switch won't have Netflix at launch. The hits keep on coming!

This thing could've been perfect for Netflix, especially if it supported downloads.  You could download a show in 720p and start streaming 1080p when you get home and dock it.

[nickmitch]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the JoyCon Grip that comes with the system is NOT the same as the Charging Grip that Nintendo is selling separately.

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[Evan_B]

With a battery life of 20 hours, I can't see why people would be too torn up about the lack of charging, especially since there seem to be numerous other ways to charge the battery. But what do I know, people will complain about it anyway.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Not sure if this has been mentioned yet, but the JoyCon Grip that comes with the system is NOT the same as the Charging Grip that Nintendo is selling separately.

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I believe it was mentioned, but for $30, I'm assuming it has battery in it that will charge the joycons while attached (unplugged), and not just allow you to charge the joycons while attached and plugged in

[nickmitch]

I mean, all you have to do is put the JoyCon back on the switch when you're done. Not too hard. But the charging grip would ensure your JoyCon are ready to go should you need to go portable right away.

[Soren]

I think it's ok to call out Nintendo for bundling an inferior grip on their $300 console. One they apparently have no intention of selling on its own separately. (EDIT: Because it would be absolutely useless)

[Kairon]

I figure the Charging Grip also doubles as a simple Joy-Con charger, even when not in use right? It's self-standing, and the charging plug goes in the top, so you can just stand it with the Joy-Cons attached and plug it in and voila, instant Dual Joy-Con charging dock?

[Lemonade]

I will probably get a Pro Controller at launch, so I dont think those joycons will be coming off very often.
I was going to say that I want a second power adapter too, but I wonder if the USB-C charger for my phone (Lumia 950) would be ok.

[rygar]

I don't think consumers should be criticized for being too negative. The rational response to "aggressive pricing" is to publicly trash a product as loudly as frequently as possible regardless of how much you honestly like it. Nintendo knows they are creating a negative environment and they literally don't care. This is a company that has nickel-and-dining written into its DNA. Unfortunately, constant negativity isn't good for forum reading or fandom in general, so I want to focus on the stuff I like, but ultimately Nintendo is to blame for consumer attitudes.

[lolmonade]

Switch won't have Netflix at launch. The hits keep on coming!

Maybe I'm spoiled here in comparison, but I have 4 or 5 pieces of hardware that play Netflix just fine that are already hooked up to TVs or in my pocket.  I'm not concerned if they don't have streaming services at launch.

[nickmitch]

Switch won't have Netflix at launch. The hits keep on coming!

Maybe I'm spoiled here in comparison, but I have 4 or 5 pieces of hardware that play Netflix just fine that are already hooked up to TVs or in my pocket.  I'm not concerned if they don't have streaming services at launch.

Yeah, but the problem is those 4 or 5 pieces can do/did Netflix day one out of the box.  It's basically a standard feature that competing products have that the Switch won't initially.  It's also one of those things people would ask about when thinking of buying one.

[rygar]

I think the issue with Netflix is that it could make the Switch purchase more attractive for a parent vis-a-vis a more functional (but more expensive) tablet. As an adult, I specifically want different devices for gaming and audio/visual entertainment, but I would only want to buy my (hypothetical) child one device for both playing games and streaming video.

[lolmonade]

Switch won't have Netflix at launch. The hits keep on coming!

Maybe I'm spoiled here in comparison, but I have 4 or 5 pieces of hardware that play Netflix just fine that are already hooked up to TVs or in my pocket.  I'm not concerned if they don't have streaming services at launch.

Yeah, but the problem is those 4 or 5 pieces can do/did Netflix day one out of the box.  It's basically a standard feature that competing products have that the Switch won't initially.  It's also one of those things people would ask about when thinking of buying one.

I guess I just question how much of a problem it actually is.  I'm making assumptions that:


1) Most of the initial stock is going to people who are preordering or gamers who want to play Nintendo games first and foremost
2) People who buy the Switch year 1 are "early adopters" who likely will have other means of watching Netflix.
3) Parents of children who would want a Switch wouldn't be getting a Switch to be the child's tablet, if they were concerned about getting a tablet that would just "check all the boxes" of games + netflix.  There are sub $100 options that fit that bill that an uninformed parent would choose over a $300 console.


Agree to disagree if your experience differs, but in my group of peers and even relatives older than me, every tv, phone, tablet, toaster has a netflix app, so the absence of one for the Switch until a yet-to-be-determined date is a non-issue.

[Soren]

Mario Kart 8 Deluxe: 1080p 60fps (the 59fps stutter appears to have been fixed)
Splatoon 2: 720p 60fps

Consensus is both games look liked slightly souped up Wii U versions for a console, but look incredible for handheld tech.

[rygar]

Yeah, my experience is different. Very few kids I know have newly purchased smart phones/tablets unless their parents are upper-middle class or richer. The other kids tend to get whatever device the parent upgrades from, usually on the same ecosystem as their parents devices. I just think having Netflix is another inducement, which seems even more necessary because of the relatively high price, but I do get your point about the limited stock/initial purchasers.

[nickmitch]

Switch won't have Netflix at launch. The hits keep on coming!

Maybe I'm spoiled here in comparison, but I have 4 or 5 pieces of hardware that play Netflix just fine that are already hooked up to TVs or in my pocket.  I'm not concerned if they don't have streaming services at launch.

Yeah, but the problem is those 4 or 5 pieces can do/did Netflix day one out of the box.  It's basically a standard feature that competing products have that the Switch won't initially.  It's also one of those things people would ask about when thinking of buying one.

I guess I just question how much of a problem it actually is.  I'm making assumptions that:


1) Most of the initial stock is going to people who are preordering or gamers who want to play Nintendo games first and foremost
2) People who buy the Switch year 1 are "early adopters" who likely will have other means of watching Netflix.
3) Parents of children who would want a Switch wouldn't be getting a Switch to be the child's tablet, if they were concerned about getting a tablet that would just "check all the boxes" of games + netflix.  There are sub $100 options that fit that bill that an uninformed parent would choose over a $300 console.


Agree to disagree if your experience differs, but in my group of peers and even relatives older than me, every tv, phone, tablet, toaster has a netflix app, so the absence of one for the Switch until a yet-to-be-determined date is a non-issue.

Your points are valid in that it's not a deal breaker for who's going to be buying this system out of the gate.  I just worry that having such an obvious mark against it would hurt potential sales.  It's not just about already having a device that has Netflix either.  People (casuals) might not want to carry an extra device if it only has games.

[Shaymin]

As long as it's coming shortly after launch, such as the people who would find it relevant have it, then it being absent at launch can be mitigated. (In Nintendo's eyes, a Netflix app just sucks up time you could be playing Breath of the Unity.)

[nickmitch]

Yeah, I guess it just depends on the timing.

[Clonester11]

The issue is not so much whether people need Netflix on their Switch, but that 1) People like features added to their technology, not taken away, and 2) People like options. Perhaps you might use Netflix, or perhaps you don't. But at least the option would be there. Especially when it comes to an easy and inexpensive option like steaming services such as Netflix.

[Stratos]

So long as they get it working on the system by the Fall/Holiday season it should not be too much of an issue. If they miss that window it could very well hurt them.

[Soren]

Super Bomberman R is confirmed to be $50.

In related news, I will no longer be purchasing Super Bomberman R at launch.

[NWR_insanolord]

I don't understand the thought process there, unless there's a ton of content we're not aware of. They put out seemingly very similar Bomberman games on the various download services last gen for $15

[lolmonade]

The issue is not so much whether people need Netflix on their Switch, but that 1) People like features added to their technology, not taken away, and 2) People like options. Perhaps you might use Netflix, or perhaps you don't. But at least the option would be there. Especially when it comes to an easy and inexpensive option like steaming services such as Netflix.

I don't disagree that Netflix is desirable to have on the Switch.  My argument is that I doubt that'll be THE reason someone makes a decision not to buy one within year one.

[lolmonade]

Super Bomberman R is confirmed to be $50.

In related news, I will no longer be purchasing Super Bomberman R at launch.

SAD!


I will also be looking to vulture this game for $20 once it doesn't sell well.  The problem is this is the perfect kind of game I would want installed on the hard drive so I don't have to swap cartridges for a few quick matches.


What is with the pricing of these games?  They're just trying to milk their last handful of fans who are starved for Bomberman?

[nickmitch]

I would've bit at $40.