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Nintendo Gaming / Re: The OFFICIAL Big N rumor thread *bring your own salt*
« on: April 03, 2012, 08:04:04 PM »Plus buying a new system is expensive. If Nintendo is to convince me to upgrade from one console to the next they better provide some noticable improvement. There has to be some justification to create games for a new console instead of an existing one. With the Wii it was like they just re-released the Gamecube with a new hat. Yeah I can't play Wii Sports on the Gamecube, but only because Nintendo decided to release the Wiimote as the standard controller for a new system, instead of as an accessory for the old one. I understand the business reason to start fresh but from a technical perspective there was no reason to make me buy a whole new system.
This applies to all console makers. If the PS4 is a glorified PS3 with used games locked out, that's a borderline scam. A new system should allow for games that cannot be done on the old hardware. If the SNES was just a slightly spruced up NES (say SMS level graphics) with a six button controller it would justifiably be seen as a huge rip-off. You have to provide some value to justify asking everyone to pay for a brand new system. The Wii got away with it because they targetted a large group of new users and thus were not asking them to pay for an upgrade that wasn't really an upgrade. If Sony or MS, who were trying to get an existing customerbase to upgrade, tried that crap it would have bombed. A follow-up to the incredibly popular PS2 that is essentially a PS2.5? That would have been a disaster. The Wii worked because the Gamecube wasn't very successful so there were less people being asked to upgrade (and those that were were largely loyal Nintendo fans). It was like a Gamecube do-over. But they can't do that again. The Wii was successful so they have to follow it up and expect the existing Wii userbase to upgrade. They can't just sell a Wii 1.5.
Have you not seen the tech demo's because the Wii U is far beyond the Wii in terms of power. Once again, we have seen at a minimum what the Wii U is capable of doing from last year's E3 and it's a huge difference from the Wii.
Zelda Demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arHNcSMXaBk
Japanese Garden Demo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2Nsa06KRLo
Both of these demo's were done on early Wii U hardware which is weaker then the final hardware. Both of these demo's already look better then nearly everything on the 360/PS3. If the early Wii U hardware was already above the 360/PS3, this proves the final hardware will have a significant difference in power. This proves that any source that says the system is actually weaker is outright lying because the actual video's prove differently.
Unlike Microsoft and Sony who show fake FMV's for their tech demo's that look better then what the final games look like, Nintendo's early tech demo's are actually done on real hardware and always look weaker then what the final system can do because Nintendo actually makes them on the early hardware.
This. People need to realize that Nintendo isn't trying to directly compete with Microsoft and Sony. They are in their own bubble. For Nintendo, the Wii U is a huge leap ahead in terms of technology and graphics.
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