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Offline Evan_B

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Is this seriously the state of game releases nowadays? Releasing them without flaws is considered above average?

It's so disappointing that patches have lowered standards to such a level. Xenoblade Chronicles X at least launched with its patches immediately available on day one, though I think some post-release patches were also needed.
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Is this seriously the state of game releases nowadays? Releasing them without flaws is considered above average?
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Is this seriously the state of game releases nowadays? Releasing them without flaws is considered above average?

It's so disappointing that patches have lowered standards to such a level. Xenoblade Chronicles X at least launched with its patches immediately available on day one, though I think some post-release patches were also needed.

There was a Day 1 patch? I must have missed that. I only knew of the faster-loading data packs. I recall the XenobladeX JPN twitter account tweeting about updates for the game a month or two after release.

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https://youtu.be/_7lBVaLb0nw
Load time comparisons between without the data packs and with. Load times is on par with the rest of the generation (long), but having the data packs is useful. The difference is profound when using the fast travel.

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Kidding aside, the removal of the bust slider for women characters in the character creator is an amusing and strange localization decision. I already took a glance at the Siliconera comment thread, I don't plan to glance at any more. If there is one sad consequence of the feature's removal, it is that those who were hoping to match their bust size between reality and the game will no longer have the option. Or those who wanted a smaller bust on their character as the default is... well, you be the judge.

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Haha. That's kind of funny, and not a big deal. But it is another case where I am left shaking my head, wondering why they felt it was necessary. Was the so-called "boob slider" really such a big deal?


The swimsuit stuff seems to have been handled well - they made changes only where it might have been a problem and left the rest alone.
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Why the heck was there a boob slider in the first place? And why was a young teen sexualized? Oh right, because Japan.
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Haha. That's kind of funny, and not a big deal. But it is another case where I am left shaking my head, wondering why they felt it was necessary. Was the so-called "boob slider" really such a big deal?


The swimsuit stuff seems to have been handled well - they made changes only where it might have been a problem and left the rest alone.

It basically comes down to Nintendo not wanting people making small breasted underage looking girls and then butting them in the revealing outfits.  It the same reason why Lin was censored in the Western release as well.  In the West, Nintendo is terrified of anything that might make it look like they're releasing a product aimed at pedophiles since you can imagine the shitstorm it could cause.  Hence why they're taking this route and making sure no one can make underage looking characters.
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Why the heck was there a boob slider in the first place? And why was a young teen sexualized? Oh right, because Japan.
NoA is making the right decisions here. Correcting mistakes of the past.

I read someone, on the internet, that it's not illegal in Japan to have relations with teenage girls maybe its just a different culture? I don't know sexualizing teenage girls was all Sailor Moon had going for it nobody complained there.
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You might be able to get away with a "boob slider" in a comedy or parody game, like a South Park themed game or something. But XCX is not that game.
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I guess I don't know what a "boob slider" is? are you talking about that thing in RPG games, or games like the Sims, when you create a new character you can adjust their bust size? If so then yeah it makes no sense to remove it unless all the characters are underage. If it is something else, maybe I don't want to know...
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It basically comes down to Nintendo not wanting people making small breasted underage looking girls and then butting them in the revealing outfits.  It the same reason why Lin was censored in the Western release as well.  In the West, Nintendo is terrified of anything that might make it look like they're releasing a product aimed at pedophiles since you can imagine the shitstorm it could cause.  Hence why they're taking this route and making sure no one can make underage looking characters.


Although I'm still unsure that it's a necessary removal, this does at least make sense.
(It was also a possibility that I totally didn't account for.)
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Is The Sims 3 a parody game?


Is it? I thought they were life simulations or whatever. I know they have had Sims games on Nintendo consoles in the past but I never played them.
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I guess I don't know what a "boob slider" is? are you talking about that thing in RPG games, or games like the Sims, when you create a new character you can adjust their bust size?

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If there is one sad consequence of the feature's removal, it is that those who were hoping to match their bust size between reality and the game will no longer have the option.
I don't think this is a case, as the slider wasn't available for male characters so people can't have the bust match their manboobs anyway.

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If there is one sad consequence of the feature's removal, it is that those who were hoping to match their bust size between reality and the game will no longer have the option.
I don't think this is a case, as the slider wasn't available for male characters so people can't have the bust match their manboobs anyway.

You joke but when I played Mass Effect I was trying make my character look as much like me as possible and I was annoyed that I couldn't make him... less athletic looking.  I suppose most people would want their fictional avatar to be really attractive so they didn't think anyone would want to add a bit of a gut.  So for a female player that wants to make their character look like themselves, including an accurate bust, that's a bit of a bummer.  Now did they design that option for that purpose or was it intended for horny guys?  Somehow I'm guessing they had their heads in the gutter.

Thinking about how the game might seem too big I was thinking about the first game and I remember now what I found intimidating about it.  I would use the side quests as the way to level up.  If I have to kill a bunch of enemies anyway why not fulfill some quests doing it?  But once in a while you would get quests with an indicator that at some point in the story it would disappear forever.  That sucked because then I felt I had to do it or I would miss out.  For every other area I would just do them at my leisure until I leveled up enough to continue with the main story or if I got bored of doing them.  The idea was that I could come back later if I wanted to.  But in areas with the limited-time-only quests I felt this need to do all of them because otherwise I would miss them FOREVER.  Do away with the disappearing side-quests and that overwhelming feeling to do every quest goes away.

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It's a bit disappointing to hear for those who like being precise about those sorts of things. I'm not going to play as a girl, but it is disheartening. Nintendo just needs to deal with their games being Japanese. Some of the outfit stuff, I can understand... but then I look at Fire Emblem's Nowi, who looks like a 13 year old girl in a skimpy dragon scale bikini, and I don't get where their priorities are.

I just hope Nintendo doesn't flip their lid when they try to localize #FE for the West. That game has to be Japanese, that's the whole appeal.
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All nonesense, Sony gets away with releasing the same types of games on Playstation and nobody notices. Nintendo has a weird audience and a weird culture that is all. Nothing they do can ever be rationalized no matter how hard we try it's always just mindbogglingly odd. Sometimes they get lucky and it works, sometimes they shoot themsevles in the foot but watch documentaries on how they stumbled into the NES, it was blind damn luck it took off nothing more, same as Wii, SNES they fought for and almost lost, the N64 and GC they did lose, they are not at all able to predict what will and what won't work. But to be fair, in video game at least, nobody can predict what will work and won't you could argue Sony has been lucky to some extent too, but I think they fight harder than Nintendo does.
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All nonesense, Sony gets away with releasing the same types of games on Playstation and nobody notices.

Sony has never published a game in the West that allows you to put underage girls in kinky pornographic fetish wear.  You do realize all those pedo bait games on the Vita aren't published by Sony?  Because if that's what you're going for Nintendo has allowed third parties to release similar titles on their systems, they just don't want to do it themselves just like Sony won't either.
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You joke but when I played Mass Effect I was trying make my character look as much like me as possible and I was annoyed that I couldn't make him... less athletic looking.  I suppose most people would want their fictional avatar to be really attractive so they didn't think anyone would want to add a bit of a gut.
So what you're saying is, they need to add in a beer-belly slider? Not a bad idea...

All nonesense, Sony gets away with releasing the same types of games on Playstation and nobody notices.

Sony has never published a game in the West that allows you to put underage girls in kinky pornographic fetish wear.  You do realize all those pedo bait games on the Vita aren't published by Sony?  Because if that's what you're going for Nintendo has allowed third parties to release similar titles on their systems, they just don't want to do it themselves just like Sony won't either.

I guess allowing to happen and publishing yourself are two different things you are right. Sony doesn't actually make the same level of games as Nintendo but I do seem to recall some noise about a few years ago about a fighting game that had something similar but now I can't remember the details. Sony does have a lot of games featuring anime girls in skimpy outfits but I am not 100% sure how many are first party published and how many are supposed to be under age girls, considering I don't follow anime stuff.
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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now with less boob slider and pedo content!
« Reply #221 on: November 17, 2015, 11:26:32 PM »
https://youtu.be/_7lBVaLb0nw
Load time comparisons between without the data packs and with. Load times is on par with the rest of the generation (long), but having the data packs is useful. The difference is profound when using the fast travel.

Interesting, thanks! Anyone know how the disc with download packs version compares to the straight up downloaded version?



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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now with less boob slider and pedo content!
« Reply #222 on: November 19, 2015, 04:34:01 PM »
I have started seeing the game advertised on youtube at the start of videos. It's a decent little trailer and packs a lot into 30 seconds without being confusing. As we get closer and closer to launch my hype is increasing exponentially.


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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now with less boob slider and pedo content!
« Reply #223 on: November 21, 2015, 12:29:28 AM »
Hey guys--a little off topic from the main discussion, but I'm having a problem that I can't figure out. I bought Xenoblade Chronicles X and am trying to preload it in anticipation of the release date.  I have tried to download and install the game 4 times now and each time I have experienced an error at different stages (the last time, it had downloaded and was 10 minutes from completing its install).  Every time I get an error, the WiiU makes me delete the download and restart all over again--since it is a 20 GB game and a 2.5 hour download, you can imagine how frustrating this is.  I don't necessarily expect a solution to this problem from this forum, but I would like to know if anyone else is experiencing this problem?  Or if anyone has successfully downloaded and preloaded the game?  I would suspect my external hard drive, but it has performed flawlessly up to this point for the last 2.5 years.  Any insight you can provide would be much appreciated!  Thanks.

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Re: Xenoblade Chronicles X. Now with less boob slider and pedo content!
« Reply #224 on: November 21, 2015, 01:18:55 AM »
That is odd. Maybe your external hard drive has a sleep function? I can't think of what could be going wrong.