Nintendo of America has sent a notice to analysts and the media that The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess has been delayed to at least April 2006. Eiji Aonuma's development team apparently wants extra time to polish off the game, and they're getting it.
"After much discussion, the Zelda development team has requested extra time to add new levels, more depth and even higher quality to Zelda: Twilight Princess. Consequently, we're announcing a new global launch in 2006, after the conclusion of this fiscal year (March 31). We'll provide a specific date at a later point in time. While this may come as a disappointment to many eager fans, it will absolutely enrich the game and make it a multi-million seller.
In the meantime, we're gearing up for a very high-profile fall and holiday season - one of the busiest we've ever had. Not only will we go full-bore on the Nintendo Wi-Fi Connection for the DS, featuring Mario Kart DS and Animal Crossing DS (to name a few), we're putting a lot of marketing muscle behind Battalion Wars, Mario Superstar Baseball, Fire Emblem and Super Mario Strikers.
Last, but not least, is the little power-packed guy who'll fit into your smallest pocket - Micro. It'll start shipping Sept. 19. It's hip, and the marketing to go along with it is too. So, be on the lookout.
- Perrin Kaplan, Vice President, Marketing & Corporate Affairs, Nintendo of America Inc.
Yes, that pushes Twilight Princess into at least April 2006, if not later.
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Originally posted by: Bloodworth
Looks like there's a chance of a GameCube game being one of the big launch titles for Revolution. @_@
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Originally posted by: Jonnyboy117
anubis, you're crazy.
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TP is not moving to Revolution
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Seriously, why not?
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Moving Twilight Princess to Nintendo Revolution = absolutely moronic. They can't just magically port it there, and if they did, it'd be exactly the same as it would be GC, except 20 million less people can play it. If they put the time and effort into moving it to Revolution it'd be a whole new game, and would be delayed like 2 years
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and there already is a Zelda game in development for Revolution.
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Because we all want Twilight Princess, and we don't own a Revolution. Moving Twilight Princess to Nintendo Revolution = absolutely moronic. They can't just magically port it there, and if they did, it'd be exactly the same as it would be GC, except 20 million less people can play it. If they put the time and effort into moving it to Revolution it'd be a whole new game, and would be delayed like 2 years, and there already is a Zelda game in development for Revolution.
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Who's buying a Revolution? What is the Revolution? Revolution doesn't even exist yet, nobody plans to buy one yet. We were promised a second Zelda on GC, and that's what we're going to get. Lots of people have it pre-ordered. GC has only been out 3 years here, I want more GC games, screw Revolution.
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Originally posted by: wandering
SSB wasn't system-seller material. It was (virtually) multiplayer-only, hard to demonstrate, hard to pick up on play, easy on the eyes but not amazing graphically, and not 'epic'. It was a great game, but it definetly wasn't Mario 64. Or Halo. Or Zelda.
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edit: "I need something to show me that nintendo still has the magic."
Oh, they still have it. Just believe.
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SSBM has outsold most Zelda games, it hasn't outsold OoT yet but it will soon. I don't see how Zelda is a game everyone wants to play when SSB isn't.
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Originally posted by: wandering
"Yeah, like Super Smash Bros."
SSB wasn't system-seller material. It was (virtually) multiplayer-only. It was a great game, but it definetly wasn't Halo.
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Originally posted by: stevey
"I really wish Nintendo would just delay the game and let everyone know that it is being retooled for the Revolution.''
NO NO NO! Nintendo said that there are still going to cube game when the rev comes that why there logo is revOlution
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That comment (chopped to make apparent) makes no sense.... Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and try and bash Halo, but anyone who says Halo was successful for any reasons other than its 'hip' marketing and multiplayer is wrong. Just because you apparently never learned how to play smash or something doesn't mean that an online version isn't going to make Revs fly off the damn shelves.
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Fire Emblem is looking to be the big first party Cube game for the year.
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Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
Your icon choice is good, but still not the Bill I pretend to know...it seems overtly sexual...or perhaps its my male oriented mind making it so.
Quote...Zelda would have been a multi-million seller no matter what. I just want to know exactly what it is they're adding, since it's not like there haven't been worthwhile reasons for delays in the past, e.g. multiplayer in Goldeneye. "New levels" and "more depth" is pretty generalized, and so I can't respond to this article from a gaming standpoint--only a business one.
"While this may come as a disappointment to many eager fans, it will absolutely enrich the game and make it a multi-million seller."
QuoteThey probably just said April so stockholders will know that it won't be coming out this fiscal year (which ends March 31, 2006).
Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
April 2006. That date is so suspect of something more than just "extending the life span of the GameCube". I'm willing to bet somehow this has something to do with the Revolution. It mat not be the whole Super Backwards Compatibility thing I mentioned in a previous post but it has a distinct tie in.
QuoteRemember when Nintendo said that the DS is a hint of things to come(Rev)? And remember how it was said that newer GBA games could be enhanced by playing them in a DS and even use the new features of the DS if programed to do so? What if your idea really isn't so far off?
Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
April 2006. That date is so suspect of something more than just "extending the life span of the GameCube". I'm willing to bet somehow this has something to do with the Revolution. It mat not be the whole Super Backwards Compatibility thing I mentioned in a previous post but it has a distinct tie in.
QuoteThat seems like a plausible idea to me. they could still release the game on GC and then advertise the fact that is has NEW features, levels and extra's options unlocked by playing the game in you REV. If Zelda were to become the biggest selling and best game on not just the GC but of the generation(best game that is), would that not cause everyone that bought the game be an instant sael of the Rev just to get more on their Zelda fix? and cause new hype for a game thats been out months, push out a few extra cubes (late adopters) and be probably the first game from a previous generation console to sell the next generation of that console.
Originally posted by: trip1eX
And would it be too late in development to go back and make use of the Revolution's extra power and it's controller?
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Originally posted by: MJRx9000
But hey, at least this ends the debate on Zelda beating RE4 for GOTY.
Now it'll go up against Halo 3
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Originally posted by: FamicomQuote
Originally posted by: MJRx9000
But hey, at least this ends the debate on Zelda beating RE4 for GOTY.
Now it'll go up against Halo 3
Halo 3 isn't a 2005 title, it is supposed to be the ultimate counter to the day PS3 is released.
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Yeah, like Super Smash Bros.
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
GameCube SP?
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Originally posted by: DeadlyD
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
QuoteWhat side of the argument are you on? You want them to release Zelda for Xmas or do you want them to avoid another drought in the release schedule?
Originally posted by: theRPGFreak
Having Zelda released in spring will also hurt the sales they could of had if they had released it for holiday season. We also DONT need any more droughts from Nintendo if they are serious about being a competitor for the upcoming console war.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"The same logic that denotes that an artist will create what he wants to create and when he wants to create it, not what the people want him to create..."
Nintendo's primarily a business though. From a business perspective it's an illogical move. Nintendo may make some of the best games in the world but they're a corporation first and foremost.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"The same logic that denotes that an artist will create what he wants to create and when he wants to create it, not what the people want him to create..."
Nintendo's primarily a business though. From a business perspective it's an illogical move. Nintendo may make some of the best games in the world but they're a corporation first and foremost.
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"The same logic that denotes that an artist will create what he wants to create and when he wants to create it, not what the people want him to create..."
Nintendo's primarily a business though. From a business perspective it's an illogical move. Nintendo may make some of the best games in the world but they're a corporation first and foremost.
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
As has already been said, this is unsatin fo sure.
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
As has already been said, this is unsatin fo sure.
What the F*CK are you TALKING about? What the hell does "unsatin" mean? It's "not a fabric of silk with a glossy surface on one side"? That is quite frankly the most STUPID phrase I've ever heard.
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
As has already been said, this is unsatin fo sure.
What the F*CK are you TALKING about? What the hell does "unsatin" mean? It's "not a fabric of silk with a glossy surface on one side"? That is quite frankly the most STUPID phrase I've ever heard.
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
What is ridiculous about this news is that this game was supposedly done in the spring time. Either they're putting in voice acting for the localized version, putting in forward compatibility with the REV controller, or they are putting in forward compatibility with the REV "noline" service. It is unusual of Nintendo to delay to add in whole new areas or dungeons to a game. No, when they want a game to seem longer they just slap in a fetch quest.
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Originally posted by: nemo_83
May as well sell it, what else will I do with it? REV will be out soon after or right when Zelda releases for Cube if Nintendo is smart making the game more widely marketable with the new system, fresh face, and wider audience.
Zelda sure as hell won't encourage any more Cubes to be sold now. If anyone is thinking of buying a new piece of hardware it is likely got MS written on it.
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
That's right, people. Nintendo's fanbase will flock to post-apocalyptic FPSs, racers with the same realistic cars, and zombie-filled adventures that have zombies for the sake of filling the screen with zombies.
QuoteEh? I thought you bought a Cube because of the new IPs like Pikmin, and the experience that you couldn't get anywhere else in Metroid Prime? Not a sequel like this, which looked at the time like something in the vein of OoT..
Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Deep down this is the game I bought a Cube for in the first place. I've been waiting for this game since Nintendo showed the "bogus" Zelda footage in 2000.
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Originally posted by: mantidor
Im saddened of course, but the whole "Nintendo is doomed" speech is really getting old, somehow we internet geeks who spend time posting daily on forums like this know more about video game business that the most succesful company in that business?
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
Someone with some technical know-how should take up Nile-Boogie's idea. Obviously revising the graphics enough to be worth making TP a Rev title would take more than a year. But what if they make foliage and other details scalable, like many PC games? You still have essentially the same game for the cube, but it looks substantially better on the Rev. Just a thought.
QuoteDon't you think that they would be happier that theere is even more additional content added to game to further enhance the experience with the addition of the feature set included in the Rev?
Originally posted by: IceCold
But, as I said, Gamer 1 would feel like he/she was getting a raw deal. They paid a lot for the game, and now they find out that they can't play it fully without getting a Rev. Then they won't be a HAPPY GAMER anymore.
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
"You also discover that in addition to the new downloadable weapons, costumes & power-ups, there is a new online/multiplayer mode opens up."
Whoa, hold up now...You went way too far...
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Originally posted by: IceCold
You undoubtedly did go too far, BlackNMild. If all of that is unlocked by playing with the Rev, it would make Gamer 1 even more bitter. The people who buy Zelda, there will be many of them that won't be buying a Rev for a while/at all. Then, potentially millions of customers will be unsatisfied because they can't get the whole experience without buying a new $300 console.
As I said before, if the game can be played better with the new controller in any way, that is fine by me. It's OK if Zelda uses the new features of the controller to its benefit. And graphical enhancements, maybe... But all of these unlockable features would lead Gamer 1 to feel cheated.
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Originally posted by: Jonnyboy117
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Originally posted by: Nile Boogie
GameCube SP?
That would have been a smart move...two years ago. It's too late now.
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Originally posted by: Jonnyboy117
At the end of every generation, there are people who want the old system's final set of games to be moved up to the new system. It's a bad idea, and history has proven that.
Star Fox Adventures - over two years of extra development time, critical thrashing, mediocre sales
Eternal Darkness - over two years of extra development time, pitiful sales
If you want to know how much work is involved in moving a game up to a new system several times more powerful, look at the ordeal of porting Conker to Xbox with nicer graphics. It took Rare about three years. Granted, Rare is slow as hell, but you can still tell that it was no simple matter. I bring up Conker because many people thought it should have been moved from N64 to GameCube. And in the end, it's going to sell about as many copies on Xbox as it did on N64, which is to say, not that many.
QuoteLook on the bright side...next year, when new consoles are launched Nintendo is the only company with a chance to be in the black. Everyone else is going to lose so much money launching hardware that they likely won't be able to make it up with software sales.
Okay kids . . . the bottom line is that Nintendo had to do this. We all know they certainly didn't want to (their holiday season sales will suck and their fiscal year profit forecasts are never going to be met), but I'm sure they discussed it and decided that it had to be done.
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If I can't get everything possible out of my Twilight Princess disc without owning a Revolution, i'm never going to buy another Nintendo product ever.
QuoteI've been reading the other posts. The ones I've been flaming say things like
zakkiel: If you didn't notice, I was saying that unlockables and features like online, if you got them only on the Rev, would really anger some people. You're just talking about graphics, but if you read the other posts, we were talking about extra content that would only be available with the Rev, which would surely be a raw deal for a Cube owner who isn't planning on getting a Rev in the near future or at all.
Quotewhich includes any graphical adjustment whatsoever, at least according to the normal usage of the English language.
If I can't get everything possible out of my Twilight Princess disc without owning a Revolution
QuoteThat's an argument over whether your statement/my reply are consequential, not which is right. Since nothing said ehre is consequential anyway, it's pointless. Believe it or not, I did read all three sentences you posted before replying. I didn't think the rest was worth replying to, but ok:
If you read what I said that you conveniantly cut out of your quote there, you'd realise I just said myself the issue didn't exist.
Quote1) This whole topic is hypothetical, as all topics relating to the Rev are at this point. If you'd read my original post, you would have noticed that I was soliciting information on its feasibility. 2)Where the hell do you get the authority to tell us what Nintendo will do? Your oracular pet hamster? 3) Nintendo has done far more bizarre things than this for cross product promotion with Zelda, such as the color dungeon and Tingle tuner (and why the hell haven't you forsworn all Nintendo products because WW required you to have a GBA to get everything out of it? Oh, right. Because your attitude is entirely irrational.) Using TP to push the Rev would be a far more reasonable marketing strategy than a lot of the craziness they've produced.
Which is cool because they wouldn't do that.
QuoteNow, see, originally I was just toying with the idea. But the opposition I've encountered has been so absurd that I've become a major fan, and with this last comment I'm determined to never let it die.
It's a ridiculous idea, drop it.
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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
I'm playing Wind Waker, so right now I personally couldn't care if Twilight Princess ever comes out. I'm quite content. Although I'm certain that'll change once I'm done. Actually, I'm glad TP got delayed, because now I can't get distracted away from Wind Waker by it.
Overall, I think this is going to be a great thing. I'm not a fan of "keep the game in limbo because you can always make it better", but Zelda games have been having a diminished impact lately, so trading some quantity for quality seems like a very good idea right about now. Zelda needs to be awesome.
Twilight Princess launching in line with the Revolution launch? Okay, that's just brilliant. Sure, Nintendo needs to take care of their GameCube owners, but I don't think this dealy is going to kill anyone who wasn't dead already. TP might've moved some GameCubes, or gotten some people to dust them off/dig them out of their closets, but it can still do that after a delay. And moving Revolutions is a much better idea than lost-cause GameCubes.
Combat the Xbox360? Meh. I think the best way to do that is to focus on doing the Revolution right, not by getting into a fight. Remember what happened when Nintendo put Metroid Prime 2 up against Halo 2? I don't think Nintendo should retreat, but they should definitely pick their battles.
TP is going to be like Link's Awakening DX on the GB/GBC. Or the Oracle games on the GBC/GBA. Right in the transition phase. It's an exciting place to be.
The Oracle games had some GBA extras, like the Advance Store and some extra rings. Someone mentioned stuff like bonus costumes and weapons for plaing TP on the Rev? That's a great idea. Provided that the version on the GameCube has a healthly amount of those in the first place. You shouldn't leave a group of people "wanting more" from a game. Fortunately, "giving people what they want in abundance" sounds as if that's TP's entire philosophy. I just hope Nintendo can pull it off, because that's not usually Nintendo's philosophy.
Link's Awakening DX had color on the GBC. So now the question is... what is the Revolution? Does the Revolution have something so awesome that it will make current-generation console games look as out-of-date as if they were black and white? And because of the delay, Twilight Princess will be programmed to be able to take full advantage of it?
I'm officially hyped for the Revolution.
Im saddened of course, but the whole "Nintendo is doomed" speech is really getting old, somehow we internet geeks who spend time posting daily on forums like this know more about video game business that the most succesful company in that business?
The bottom line is, if they port TP over to the Revolution, and are still working on a newer version, that will equate to a great business move-plus we fans get two Zelda's in two years.
Please tell me why this is a better move than just putting the game out on the GC, which already has a set userbase? Considering the Rev's backwards-compatibility, porting the game to the Rev would just be outright stupid...
heres the truth the wii is barely better(if that) then a mouse and keyboard.we'll see when 1:1 controls comes out