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Title: Harvest Moon AWL: Ask a question, get an answer!
Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 28, 2004, 05:22:30 PM
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life comes out on or about March 16, and I've got a near-final build.  As I continue to play and formulate my review, please use this thread to ask any questions you may have about the game.  Check the previous questions and answers before you post new ones, so I don't have to constantly repeat myself.  Okay, ask away!

Link to my impressions.
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Post by: Syl on February 28, 2004, 06:27:25 PM
Alright, heres quite a few of them.
I'm not sure if you can answer the majority of them, considering you haven't played a HM game before, but i'll try anyway.

First, you mentioned each day taking around 30 minutes, thats a HUGE increase from previous harvest moon games, whats the second to minute ratio if you know?   Harvest Moon 64 was roughly 5 minute days, Harvest Moon: FOMT is roughly 10ish minute days..

Im guessing with the increased daytime, and the fact that the game is so many years long, How long each is year?  they had to seriously cut down on the year time so the game is plausible long.

Likewise, i mentioned hearing something on multi-season crops, do these really exist? and can some crops actually be harvested in winter?

Who's your love interest? =p

Have you came across..wahtever it is.. that allows you to cross breed seed types?  How does that work?

you also mentioned having to water twice in  a day, something else new for harvest moon games.. how do you know when to water them again?

oh, have you came across any harvest sprites?  what do they do?
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Post by: akdaman1 on February 28, 2004, 07:23:21 PM
O.k while reading your impressions you seemed to come off as the type who really doesnt dig HM that much.

O.K , I know you really cant rate the game YET , but in terms of things to do and fun factor , what wins HM or AC ?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 28, 2004, 08:22:29 PM
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Originally posted by: Syl_Aran
First, you mentioned each day taking around 30 minutes, thats a HUGE increase from previous harvest moon games, whats the second to minute ratio if you know?   Harvest Moon 64 was roughly 5 minute days, Harvest Moon: FOMT is roughly 10ish minute days.  Im guessing with the increased daytime, and the fact that the game is so many years long, How long each is year?  they had to seriously cut down on the year time so the game is plausible long.


Each real second is one game minute.  There are 24 hours in a day, though realistically, you have to sleep for at least some of that time.  You sleep for six-hour intervals, which seems a bit short.  Sometimes I will go to bed early and sleep twice, so I'm not up at 3AM doing farmwork.  Plus, you don't get so tired if you sleep.  Anyway, there are ten days in each season, and four seasons per year.  So, assuming you sleep twelve hours each night, that's 30 min (real) x 10 days (game) x 4 seasons (game) = 20 hours of playing per game year, give or take.  I don't think you are expected to play more than two or three game years, although the game probably lets you go on for as long as you want to.

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Likewise, i mentioned hearing something on multi-season crops, do these really exist? and can some crops actually be harvested in winter?


Yes, most crops grow in at least two seasons.  Some of them grow slowly, so you may have to plant in early summer and harvest in late fall.  The only single-season crop I know of is sweet potatoes; they grow only in the fall, so you have to plant on the first day to harvest a healthy crop before the winter begins.  Carrots are harvested in winter, and I believe strawberries are too.

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Who's your love interest? =p


I don't understand this part of the game very well yet, as it seems the only thing I can do to build a relationship is offer flowers.  That seems pretty limited.  Anyway, there are three potential brides in the game, and it seems you will end up with one of them by the end of the first year, even if you are shy about proposing.  Celia is a farm girl who is very practical; Muffy is a stereotypical blonde, very pretty but also shallow (and "easy"); Nami is a tough red-head who scoffs at traditional tactics.

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Have you came across..wahtever it is.. that allows you to cross breed seed types?  How does that work?


There is a seed machine which will do this, but it costs 6000 G and I haven't been able to afford it yet.  Right now, I prefer concentrating on my animals anyway.  The crops are a lot of work and don't seem to yield much profit.

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also mentioned having to water twice in  a day, something else new for harvest moon games.. how do you know when to water them again?


You only have to water twice per day in the summer, when it is very hot and dry.  The color of the soil plots will make it pretty clear whether more water is needed.

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have you came across any harvest sprites?  what do they do?


Yes, they live near my farm.  They give you the blue feather at the start of summer, which lets you propose to a girl.  They also announce when an animal has been born on your farm.  Otherwise, they hang out in their treehouse and just talk nonsense when you visit.

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Post by: GoldShadow1 on February 28, 2004, 08:22:34 PM
How does the game rate as far as depth compared to other games in the series?  I.e., is the world very detailed?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 28, 2004, 08:25:52 PM
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Originally posted by: akdaman1
O.k while reading your impressions you seemed to come off as the type who really doesnt dig HM that much.


Actually, I am enjoying it quite a bit, and it's very addictive.  But I do think it's boring, in the same way that fishing is boring.  There just isn't much going on, but you can still have a good time because it's simple and relaxing and satisfying.  I think this is probably the feeling the developers intended to get across.  The game is very serene.

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O.K , I know you really cant rate the game YET , but in terms of things to do and fun factor , what wins HM or AC ?


Sorry, I forced myself to skip Animal Crossing, so it wouldn't affect my work in school or on the site.  I know a good bit about the game and how it is played, but I have intentionally avoided playing it myself.

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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 28, 2004, 08:28:44 PM
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Originally posted by: GoldShadow1
How does the game rate as far as depth compared to other games in the series?  I.e., is the world very detailed?


Sorry, this is my first Harvest Moon game, so I can't compare it to the other ones in the series.  I could probably give you some idea of its depth, however, if you could be more specific with your question or give me some examples from the earlier games.
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Post by: KDR_11k on February 28, 2004, 08:55:31 PM
Hm, if one minute is one second, shouldn't 24 hours translate into 24 minutes? If you sleep half of that, wouldn't one day be 12 minutes, not 30?
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Post by: akdaman1 on February 28, 2004, 11:03:15 PM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Hm, if one minute is one second, shouldn't 24 hours translate into 24 minutes? If you sleep half of that, wouldn't one day be 12 minutes, not 30?


You think too much , and thanks JohhnyBoy for your anwsers.
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Post by: Syl on February 29, 2004, 04:40:56 AM
Jonny, the game itself is supposed to last 30 years, thats why the amount of time in a day really surprised me.  
In HM:FOMT (GBA one) 5 seconds = 10 minutes of gametime.

The Marriage aspect isn't that difficult, just talk to the girl you want every day, find out what she really likes and repeatedly give her presents.  The Harvest Sprites don't seem as useful as they are in FOMT (where you could train them to water/harvest/feed animals for you) but thats alright to begin with.  

You already have a cow?  Thats strange.. those things usually take a lot of money to buy...and are hard to afford the first year or so.  I'm very curious to see what they've changed..

The release date is still 3-16, right?
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Post by: WhoDey on February 29, 2004, 04:50:03 AM
Okay, I've read that the game takes up 47 memory blocks on a memory card. How many save slots do you get with those 47 blocks?

Do you know how many different crops you can grow, or about how many?

Have you come across anything related to linking up with the GBA game? I've stumbled upon where to go in the GBA game by accident. Just wondering if it's kind of hidden in the GC game or if it's a feature made available from the start?

Can you catch insects/animals?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 29, 2004, 05:55:20 AM
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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Hm, if one minute is one second, shouldn't 24 hours translate into 24 minutes? If you sleep half of that, wouldn't one day be 12 minutes, not 30?


How embarrassing.  Yes, you're right...although it seems longer than 12 minutes, maybe because sometimes I only sleep once, for six hours.  Also, time stops running whenever you are in a menu or in a conversation, which is very often.  So the actual time spent playing each day is a good bit longer.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 29, 2004, 05:58:18 AM
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Originally posted by: Syl_Aran
You already have a cow?  Thats strange.. those things usually take a lot of money to buy...and are hard to afford the first year or so.  I'm very curious to see what they've changed..


The farm starts out with a cow already in the barn.  You are also given some heavy (crappy) tools, including a hoe, a sickle, a milking funnel, and a small watering can.  That's about it.  Once summer starts, your uncle will also give you a horse, whose only purpose seems to be as a means of transportation.  It's certainly much faster than walking on foot.

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The release date is still 3-16, right?


Yes, as far as I know.

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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 29, 2004, 06:18:30 AM
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Originally posted by: WhoDey
Okay, I've read that the game takes up 47 memory blocks on a memory card. How many save slots do you get with those 47 blocks?


Yes, it uses 47 blocks and you get two save slots with that.

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Do you know how many different crops you can grow, or about how many?


I have seen about fifteen, maybe twenty kinds of seeds for sale.  You may be able to create others with the seed machine.

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Have you come across anything related to linking up with the GBA game? I've stumbled upon where to go in the GBA game by accident. Just wondering if it's kind of hidden in the GC game or if it's a feature made available from the start?


There is a road leading out of the valley.  If you try walking that way, the Harvest Sprites will show up and tell you that the road leads to Mineral Town, and that you need to link to the GBA game to get there.  You can apparently do it whenever you want, even right at the beginning of the game.  I don't have the GBA version, unfortunately, so I can't try it.

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Can you catch insects/animals?


You can catch fish once you buy a fishing pole.  Otherwise no, I haven't seen any way of catching insects or wild animals.
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Post by: Berny on February 29, 2004, 06:46:18 AM
What is the fishing like (if it's there at all) in AWL? It was pretty basic on the N64, nothing like The Ocarina of Time's fishing.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 29, 2004, 08:20:01 AM
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Originally posted by: Berny
What is the fishing like (if it's there at all) in AWL? It was pretty basic on the N64, nothing like The Ocarina of Time's fishing.


It's very, very simple in AWL.  You just pull out your fishing rod, get near a body of water, and press A.  The line will be cast, and you watch your bob until you get a bite or get tired of waiting and pull back in.  When a fish bites, it's pretty obvious, and you just have to press A once to reel it in.  Whether it comes off the line or not seems to be a matter of luck, but it's only happened to me once.  The kind of fish you get is determined by location and luck.  The places to fish are a small pond, a small swamp, and a large creek that leads up to a waterfall.  There is a beach near the village, but you can't fish there.  I guess it's just for looks.
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Post by: Syl on February 29, 2004, 10:43:08 AM
47 blocks? shoot.. guess thats where my extra memory card is going.. im gonna have to buy another 251..

Have you came across any festivals at all? I know they aren't in the japanese version, but i heard that part of the reason for the massive delay of the american one is because they were adding them back in.
Also, any major Engrish? natsume is famous for that.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on February 29, 2004, 05:34:15 PM
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Originally posted by: Syl_Aran
Have you came across any festivals at all? I know they aren't in the japanese version, but i heard that part of the reason for the massive delay of the american one is because they were adding them back in.


Haven't seen one yet, but I haven't been through a whole year yet.  I would imagine there's one in the winter, if it's going to happen.

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Also, any major Engrish? natsume is famous for that.


Nothing too embarrassing, but there are some awkward comments here and there, and there are many conversations that seem completely out of context.  I'm told by Natsume that some of the grammar is being tweaked before the game goes gold, so I can't say too much because my version isn't authoritative on this matter.  Zosha and/or Dan will be reviewing the final retail version, so they'll be reporting in on the writing.

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Post by: Yengwa on March 01, 2004, 03:51:31 AM
I had heard something about you being a girl in the game. But since you didn't mention it, I guess it's not true. So, can you be a girl?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 01, 2004, 06:27:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Yengwa
I had heard something about you being a girl in the game. But since you didn't mention it, I guess it's not true. So, can you be a girl?


No, not unless it's a secret feature that is unlocked later in the game.  But I doubt that.  Natsume is currently working on a version of the GBA game for girls, and I would imagine they'll consider doing the same for the GameCube version if it sells well.
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Post by: vudu on March 01, 2004, 07:21:44 AM
i've never played a harvest moon game, so this might be a question that can be answered by anyone who's played one.

does the gameplay allow you to explore, fish, visit the village, and other types of general bumming around, or are you constricted to spending the majority of the time doing farm work?  my biggest concern is there will be too much to do and not enough time in a day to do it.  there's a certain amount of farm work that will need to be done each day to run a successful farm, and i'm worried that there won't be enough time in the day to do other stuff.  if i choose to spend a day fishing, or an afternoon courting a young lass, will i wake up the next morning to a bunch of brown crops and a pile of dead farm animals?
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Post by: akdaman1 on March 01, 2004, 08:33:26 AM
It does restrict you to doing these things , and its really annoying , because I try to go out fishing but by the time I get to the lake and do ma thang the day will be gone.

However if u were to skip feeding your dogs , sheep etc and not water ur crops then they will be dead the next morning.

However , I honestly feel that this system works better than AC because AC FORCED you to play everysingleday.

Do you want my opinion Kingvudu ? ....This game is like Jonny said , simple but addicting. You MUST put this into your collection , it is bound to be a great game and is worth your $50 american dollers and more.
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Post by: vudu on March 01, 2004, 08:42:02 AM
actually, the single reason i never got into animal crossing was because it did force you to play every day.  because of my schedule, i can really only play video games (a) during the week and (b) during the early evening hours.  this made it impossible for me to be able to get everything out of animal crossing because stores would be closed, it would always be night, etc.  plus, i'm a collection whore, so it would just bug the hell out of me if i couldn't get every single solitary thing in the game.

lucky for me, twin snakes comes out a week before harvest moon, so i'll be tied up in that game for the first couple weeks of harvest moon's release.  that should give me time to read reviews and form my opinion as to whether or not i'll get the game.  and, for the record, i believe the game is retailing at $40 usd, not $50.  so that makes it a little easier on the pocketbook.  (i'm really digging this $40 price tag many games are coming out with these days.  way to go, nintendo.)
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Post by: Use Soap on March 01, 2004, 09:19:57 AM
Now one big worry I have is that the game will haved that stupind interface from HM64 where you need to go into the menu everytime you need a freakin' tool! Is this the same in HM:AWL, or is it more akin to its PS1 cousin, where theshoulder buttons were used to change the tool?
Also what did you name your cow and dog?
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Post by: FROSTIC*! on March 01, 2004, 10:27:50 AM
Hello, PGC director guy. I know too much about the game, it's nearly spoiled for me... so I might as well spoil the dialogue as well.

Is the dialogue extremely repetative? Will I end up having to endure people saying stupid things like "Do not work to hard."?

Another thing, IGN reported that there was a twist to the english version that wasn't in the Japanese version... I doubt you'll know for sure (seeing you're not a sick, religious follower like me), but any information on this would be truly helpful. I'm guessing it has something to do with dialogue, seeing Natsume only translates and publishes the game and couldn't program their way out of a paper bag.
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Post by: WhoDey on March 01, 2004, 12:14:42 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu

does the gameplay allow you to explore, fish, visit the village, and other types of general bumming around, or are you constricted to spending the majority of the time doing farm work?  my biggest concern is there will be too much to do and not enough time in a day to do it.  there's a certain amount of farm work that will need to be done each day to run a successful farm, and i'm worried that there won't be enough time in the day to do other stuff.


I've obviously never played this new version for the Cube but I've played the ones on the N64, GBC, and GBA extensively. If this one is similar to them, and I'm sure it is, then yeah, there will be days when you are pressed for time and won't be able to do everything you wanted. This is especially true when you first start the game because you'll have all the crappy tools and nothing to fall back on as far as money goes. However, after you play awhile, you'll either get new/better tools or level up the ones you have that allow to do more work in less time. You'll then have time to really explore the game by fishing, talking to the girls, or doing whatever you like.

So yeah, you will feel rushed but it won't last long as long as you stick it out.

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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 01, 2004, 12:20:04 PM
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Originally posted by: Use Soap
Now one big worry I have is that the game will haved that stupind interface from HM64 where you need to go into the menu everytime you need a freakin' tool! Is this the same in HM:AWL, or is it more akin to its PS1 cousin, where theshoulder buttons were used to change the tool?


Unfortunately, you do have to enter a menu to pull out or change tools.  You can do it in the main menu that comes up when you press Start, or you can press X to get a more streamlined inventory interface.  It's not a big hassle, but it could be better.

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Also what did you name your cow and dog?


My dog is "Bull" and my cow is "Kitty".  Most of the other animal names are not fit to print, although I will tell you that my horse is named "Gluey".  ;-)

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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 01, 2004, 12:25:29 PM
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Originally posted by: FROSTIC*!
Is the dialogue extremely repetative? Will I end up having to endure people saying stupid things like "Do not work to hard."?


No, it's not too bad.  Most people have three or four things to say at any given time, and their lines change depending on what time of the day and what season it is.  The dialogue isn't terribly interesting, but there are a few funny characters.  The conversations with your love interests are more interesting, especially when they take you into special dialogue scenes in which you get to choose your responses.

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Another thing, IGN reported that there was a twist to the english version that wasn't in the Japanese version... I doubt you'll know for sure (seeing you're not a sick, religious follower like me), but any information on this would be truly helpful. I'm guessing it has something to do with dialogue, seeing Natsume only translates and publishes the game and couldn't program their way out of a paper bag.


Sorry, I wouldn't know.  Someone else in this thread mentioned the possibility of there being festivals, and although I haven't seen any yet, I'm still in the first year and haven't quite gotten to winter yet.

By the way, I got in engaged!  It's to Celia, the cute farm girl.  She finally gave in after I offered her many flowers and a fertilized egg...which she ate.  I'm assuming that the ceremony will take place at the end of the year.

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Post by: FROSTIC*! on March 01, 2004, 02:33:58 PM
*shudders*
She ate an egg with a baby chick inside and you're MARRYING this woman?

Yes, about the festivals, there are next to none. There'll be a New Years one at the mansion and a couple of musically oriented ones involving Gustafa. Nothing too amazing... except Gustafa really can play classical guitar.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 02, 2004, 05:11:11 AM
Gustafa is a total clone of Jerry Garcia.  It's pretty funny.
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Post by: FROSTIC*! on March 02, 2004, 11:41:28 AM
XD
He's actually looking to be one of my favorite characters. Along with good ol' Murrey.. has he stolen anything from your farm yet? If not, watch out. Give him some money and food and he'll be on your good side, though if you look closely in the background when you're talking to peoppe and during cutscenes, you may notice him breaking into other peoples' houses...

*EDIT*

The person covering AWL over at HM Otaku is looking to know any english names of fish you can give. I'm not really expecting you to answer this, because you have far more important things to worry about, but if you happen to know some off hand or have nothing better to do one day, could you you give me some? Thanks a bunch anyway.
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Post by: Oogle on March 02, 2004, 03:53:18 PM
How animated is the environment in this game?

Does the grass waver in the wind?  Do rivers flow?  Any interesting effects like flashy fireworks, sunlight through trees, etc.?  Any variety in facial expressions and/or character movement?  Or do the people and animals move like robots?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 03, 2004, 03:12:11 AM
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Originally posted by: Oogle
How animated is the environment in this game?

Does the grass waver in the wind?  Do rivers flow?  Any interesting effects like flashy fireworks, sunlight through trees, etc.?  Any variety in facial expressions and/or character movement?  Or do the people and animals move like robots?


Good question.  The main things moving are water, people, and animals.  There is a waterfall near the village which feeds a creek that runs down to the ocean (which has animated waves).  Otherwise, most movement comes from NPCs.  Every person in the village has daily routines which change depending on the day and season.  It's just like in Majora's Mask, where you could follow the postman around all day and see the whole town.  Your animals also move around on their own, but without any noticeable pattern.  The characters do have facial expressions that tell you how they are feeling, and the animals' faces tell you whether they are sleeping or not.  However, animal emotions are expressed through little balloons that indicate either happiness or anger.
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 03, 2004, 04:24:13 AM
haha she ate a baby chicken.  And correct me if im wrong kingvudu but isnt a lass a guy and a lassie is a girl, or am i getting that mixed up with the dog in the older movies.  I read in EGM that towards the end of the year natsume will be releasing a game where you become a girl instead of a boy.  I wonder if there will be any extra features in this game besides you court a guy instead of a girl?
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Post by: vudu on March 03, 2004, 04:53:46 AM
3 definitions of lass.
consider yourself corrected.  
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 03, 2004, 03:15:13 PM
Yo you cant take definitions form a ghetto dictionary homey.
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Post by: vudu on March 04, 2004, 05:42:44 AM
will a definition from merriam-webster satisfy your needs?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 04, 2004, 04:36:18 PM
"Lass" is just short for "lassie", I think.  It's an Irish or Scottish thing.  Maybe both.

Update on the farm: it's now winter of the first year, and my wedding is coming up in just a few more days.  No one is actually talking about it, including the fiance, but I know it's coming thanks to the manual.  It snowed a bit one morning, and a weird sasquatch-looking guy has been walking around and mumbling.  Also, I bought a pond, which goes in the pasture and is apparently used as a swimming place for ducks, except I've never seen a duck and can't buy one.  So I don't know the point yet.
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 05, 2004, 10:34:50 AM
Ive read something somewhere (possibly nintendo power, i could go up stairs but im to lazy) that ducks come after 1 year or so and if you leave one spot open another aquatic animal will appear(can someone help me here?), well something like that anyway.  So heres the big question is Harvest Moon worth 40 bucks?
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Post by: vudu on March 05, 2004, 11:13:41 AM
depends on several factors, such as your level of income, other expenses, etc.

for me, it's not the $40 i'm worried about, it's the 20+ hours of my life i'll put into the game that's in question.
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Post by: Syl on March 05, 2004, 11:35:29 AM
same here, its the fact that i know i'll be spending over 100 hours of my life horribly addicted to this game...
I know is undoubtedly worth the money, its just the time im worried about.
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Post by: Hybrid Hunter on March 05, 2004, 11:13:36 PM
Not to sound stupid or anything, but who is Jerry Garcia?
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Post by: Syl on March 06, 2004, 05:57:57 AM
Alright, next round of questions.

Considering your only on year 2, few things im curious about..

During the winter, is there any crops that can grow and be harvested?

Is there a mine in the valley?
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 06, 2004, 06:50:21 AM
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So heres the big question is Harvest Moon worth 40 bucks?


Well, it's not a game you're going to beat in a rental.  I'm not even sure if it can be "beaten".  It's obviously meant to be played for several game years, each of which is 12-15 real hours of playing time.  So if it sounds like you would enjoy the gameplay, there is a lot of value in this game.

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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 06, 2004, 06:54:05 AM
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Originally posted by: Hybrid Hunter
Not to sound stupid or anything, but who is Jerry Garcia?


He was the guitarist and leader of the Grateful Dead.  He died in the mid-90s.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 06, 2004, 06:58:24 AM
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Originally posted by: Syl_Aran
During the winter, is there any crops that can grow and be harvested?


Yes.  I am growing carrots and strawberries right now.  I believe turnips and at least one of the fruit trees can be harvested in winter as well.

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Is there a mine in the valley?


Yes, although the game calls it a "dig".  It's sort of like a mini-game.  You go in, talk to the archaeologist, get a shovel, and start digging.  There are about fifteen squares you can dig up, and they regenerate every day.  All you have to do is stand over a square and press A.  If you don't find anything, you can keep digging, although I've found that items only turn up within the first five scoops; after that, you're just wasting time.  Occasionally you'll find an artifact for the scientist, but most of the items dug up are yours to keep.  They sell for a good bit of money to the traveling salesman, Van.  Digging is a good way to make some money on a rainy day, when you don't need to water the crops or take the animals outside.

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Post by: vudu on March 06, 2004, 06:02:15 PM
i don't think this has been asked yet...how many memory blocks does the game use?

also, how does saving work?  can you only save at certain times of the day (i.e. when you go to bed), or can you save at any time?  i'm worried that the game will make you play for at least a half hour at a time.
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Post by: Berny on March 06, 2004, 06:06:03 PM
Good question, vudu. I really want to know. I thought I heard like 46 from somewhere but I would like to get that confirmed. Makes me worried.

As for my question, do you get to have a doggy? I loved my Baxter so much. I want him back.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on March 06, 2004, 06:43:39 PM
Hmmm.......I'm sorry, I didn't read this whole thread, but I doubt very much that this question has been asked.

What did you guys think of Harvest Moon 3 for GBC?

That is the only Harvest Moon game I have ever played and i did not enjoy it very much.  I want to know if the limitations of the GBC effected so much that is is a completely different game form AWL.  (obviously not too different, but i think you get my point.  How does HM3compare to AWL?)
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 06, 2004, 07:22:36 PM
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Originally posted by: kingvudu
i don't think this has been asked yet...how many memory blocks does the game use?


I did mention this earlier, but the game uses 47 blocks, and you get two save files for that.  Pretty bad memory card usage, I'd say.

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also, how does saving work?  can you only save at certain times of the day (i.e. when you go to bed), or can you save at any time?  i'm worried that the game will make you play for at least a half hour at a time.


You can save whenever you want at your house.
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 06, 2004, 07:24:45 PM
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Originally posted by: Berny
As for my question, do you get to have a doggy? I loved my Baxter so much. I want him back.


Yes, you choose between a short-eared dog and a long-eared dog at the beginning of the game.  As far as I can tell, the dog doesn't do much.  You can pick it up and carry it around, put food in its bowl, or whistle for it by pressing R, but there doesn't seem to be any purpose to these functions.  The dog doesn't actually require feeding.  The manual makes some reference to training, but I have not seen any way to get the dog to do anything except come to you when you whistle.
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Post by: Berny on March 07, 2004, 10:56:38 AM
YAY! Baxter will make his glorious return. If you make him run around a lot, I think you can enter him in a race. I would just whistle behind some plants so he'd be constantly running at me. ^_^ PETA hates me. I'm on their top 10 list of evil people who abuse all the fuzzy li'l critters of this earth.
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 07, 2004, 11:14:31 AM
Heres a question do you name every animal and if not which ones can you name?
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Post by: Berny on March 07, 2004, 11:27:59 AM
*puts money on "yes"*
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Post by: Jonnyboy117 on March 07, 2004, 07:16:19 PM
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Heres a question do you name every animal and if not which ones can you name?


Yeah, you can name every animal on the farm, whether bought or bred.
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Post by: vudu on March 08, 2004, 10:28:47 AM
can i have your copy when you're done with it?  
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Post by: WhoDey on March 08, 2004, 12:14:59 PM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Hmmm.......I'm sorry, I didn't read this whole thread, but I doubt very much that this question has been asked.

What did you guys think of Harvest Moon 3 for GBC?

That is the only Harvest Moon game I have ever played and i did not enjoy it very much.  I want to know if the limitations of the GBC effected so much that is is a completely different game form AWL.  (obviously not too different, but i think you get my point.  How does HM3compare to AWL?)



I own Harvest Moon 3 for GBC and it really isn't very good compared to Harvest Moon on the N64 and Harvest Moon on the GBA. I didn't play it nearly as much as the other two. One big thing it's missing is the whole dating aspect.  I really don't even remember too much from it, besides being underwhelmed after I had played through a good portion of it. As far as I'm concerned, the N64 and GBA version are ten times better and I'm betting the Cube version will be as well.

I think you should try one of the other Harvest Moon games before judging the series on the lackluster GBC game.

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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 12, 2004, 10:52:24 AM
so the days coming up soon everybody excited?
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Post by: Berny on March 13, 2004, 11:32:33 AM
Hella yes. I need to think up some good names for my animals...  
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Post by: jasonditz on March 17, 2004, 01:23:16 PM
Did it get delayed again? I went to my local Gamestop and they still don't have it... they said as far as they knew it was due today, but never arrived.
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Post by: WhoDey on March 17, 2004, 04:33:01 PM
My wife went to look for it today and both stores said the game shipped today (17th) and they expected to have it by Friday (19th). However, I've seen a couple people on other boards did find it today. So it'll be today or tomorrow depending on where you live.
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Post by: jasonditz on March 18, 2004, 08:33:03 AM
hmm... they still don't have it, what's going on?
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Post by: Berny on March 18, 2004, 03:35:09 PM
<3 <3 <3
My copy just came in today!!!! ^_^


My memory card has about 13 blocks left.
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Post by: slacker on March 18, 2004, 08:09:24 PM
There seem to be plenty of copies in the San Gabriel Valley area in Los Angeles County.  I got mine today.  I will begin the late night gaming fest on Friday, since I have nothing better to do.
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Post by: jasonditz on March 18, 2004, 08:37:30 PM
finally got a copy today... had to drive way in the hell to Burton.

Its an interesting game, but the learning curve is much bigger than in the GBA one. I'm tempted to sell this cow rather than keep feeding it.
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Post by: FOX McLOUD on March 19, 2004, 05:48:12 AM
I posted a gameplay help board up on this, but nobody cares.  

Oh well, I had some questions there, already solved two of them, but the other two remain,

1. My farmer still looks tired and sad, I heard that if he eats something he will get happier and more rested. Is this true?

2. Also, what is with the ducks, where are they, I now have five chickens, and one chicken egg incubating, which should leave two spots left. What's the deal, do they come at the end of year one?
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 19, 2004, 03:17:23 PM
Yeah fox i think i heard something that you need one spot open and after year 1 a duck will show up, I THINK.  I still havent found my copy yet.  My Sam Goody would not let me pre-order and they and my other video game store dont have any copys, and i refuse to buy it on the internet casue i dont want to pay shipping.
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Post by: jasonditz on March 19, 2004, 09:23:53 PM
1. You need to eat. If you don't eat you'll get tired faster and faster. Just drink some milk or something and then buy a fishing pole ASAP.

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Post by: Salem on March 20, 2004, 02:07:21 PM

Hiya everyone. Well...this is gonna be my first post here, let's see how it works. I wanna know something about the game...I've read a lot of things about it, reviews saying it's wonderful and others saying it's not so good. I'm a huge fan of the HM series...Back to nature, despite of the graphics (well...it was launched 4 a 32-bit platform) was great, I loved it, I spent a lot of time playing it, just imagine how great would it be in a 128 one!. Now I'll buy HM A Wonderful Life, I think it just rocks...the graphics, gameplay, everything seems really good.
I dunno if it's true but, i heard that the townfolks and people in the game don't have too many things to say...I even heard that your wife doesn't deserves that title because...SHE SAYS the same thing everyday...is it true that i'll want to divorce after some days?...I don't think so, but I wanna know it from ya, the ones who are actually playing it. Thanx  
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Post by: jasonditz on March 20, 2004, 05:02:51 PM
The dialog definately could've been more varied. As much trouble as Natsume seems to have translating these games to English I guess its just as well though.

Haven't landed a wife yet, so I don't know about that.  
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Post by: Salem on March 21, 2004, 05:39:27 AM
Me too...I hope it will be good enough to keep me away from a deception...I really have a great expectation about this game. Ya know...I bought the cube because of it, and if the game doesn't measure my expectations, oh man...I'll be really disapointed. Let's cross fingers and wait to see how it is...I'll own it in two weeks.
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Post by: Bloodworth on March 21, 2004, 07:22:00 AM
I just got to year two.  Each person really only seems to have new lines for each season, and then some of them get new lines in the second year. Different people move in or out of town too, so that adds a bit of variety. Your wife says a few more things, but compared to something like Animal Crossing, the dialogue is really thin.  I've played for about thirteen hours just since Wednesday so I'm lovin it, but I'm new to the series, so I don't know how it compares.  
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Post by: FOX McLOUD on March 21, 2004, 07:41:22 AM
Ok, second year, four hens, one rooster, I have the pond, no ducks. Where are they?

What is the deal with the goats, I heard that you buy them from Van, they can not be  sold, and they only produce milk once a day for a season and then quit, thus making them totally useless. How can this be, is this true?  
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Post by: FOX McLOUD on March 22, 2004, 07:54:17 AM
What is the deal with the fertilizer, how does it make better crops/seeds?

The ducks finnally came in the second year, first day of summer.
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Post by: moonfan on March 22, 2004, 10:11:10 AM
Fertilizer raises the rank/grade of a crop. 4 bags of it will raise the rank by 1.
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 22, 2004, 10:36:02 AM
 I got out my nintendo power and heres what it says
RAISING DUCKS
If you build the pond for 2,500 G and you have six of fewer chickens in your farm, a pair of ducks will appear.  The duck pair will produce fertilized eggs if you have room in the chiken coop (fewer than 8 fowl) and you can sell ducks for 500G.  If you sell your only remaining male and femaler pair,there is no way to get more ducks.

YOUR OTHER KID
Starting in the second year, you can buy a goat from van.  The goat will produce milk once per day for a full season, then it will cease.  Sell the goat milk for 115 G. or make cheese or butter (155 and 150 respectivly). You cant sell the goat.

So it seems that the goat only can produce for one year, you could stop feeding it cause hes of no use after the first year......or would the PETA people come after you?
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Post by: FOX McLOUD on March 23, 2004, 05:55:45 AM
Can you dump a bag of fertilizer 30 times in one day, or do you have to do it for thirty days?

How does Tartan work?
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Post by: RareWare on March 23, 2004, 06:24:31 AM
So, its a lot like Animal Crossing in the gameplay?  Is there any kind of goals to fulfill?  I didn't see anyone ask this question earlier and I was curious. TIA
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Post by: slacker on March 23, 2004, 08:01:59 AM
The gameplay is similar to Animal Crossing.  However, there are goals to fulfill such as increasing the size of your farm assets and raising a kid.  Unlike Animal Crossing, you don't really need to interact with other Harvest Moon players to get the most out of it.

I have a question, since cows only produce milk for 40 days after birth, is there any way to get them to produce continuously without making them give birth again?
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Post by: dark_eliment on March 25, 2004, 07:33:13 PM
even though i avent got the game yet when i do ill probably be asking the same question can any one answer it?
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Post by: babaloulou on March 25, 2004, 07:54:20 PM
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Originally posted by: slackerI have a question, since cows only produce milk for 40 days after birth, is there any way to get them to produce continuously without making them give birth again?


No. They give birth, milk for around 40 days, then go dry. Its usually best to impregnate almost immediately since birth takes about a year (30 days of no-milk before born, then a few days of calf-only milk). They will keep giving milk while pregnant, assuming they're still in that original 40 day span.

Unless you're careful with impregnating at the right time, cows usually won't be your most profitable venture (unless you get S Grade Star milk, which goes for 500G+). Trees, in some form or another, are usually best. They live forever, don't require watering after being full grown, produce fruit every year (1 season only), and I believe put out 24 fruits for their respective seasons.  
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Post by: slacker on March 25, 2004, 07:55:27 PM
i believe the more active thread for Harvest Moon is in the game play help area of the forum.  Any questions related to the game should be brought there.
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Post by: babaloulou on March 25, 2004, 08:07:59 PM
More active means less, older posts? Or is there another one in there that I'm just not seeing?
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Post by: Salem on March 28, 2004, 04:00:25 AM
 Hiya guys, here's another question...In the game u have the possibility to woo one of three different girls, depending of who you marry, you'll have a different child, and I suposse...a different ENDING. And depending on how you take care of that child, he'll grow and be a different kind of person...So, there will be different endings in AWL, right?...
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Post by: Use Soap on March 29, 2004, 01:33:56 PM
I geuss so Salem...

My question is:
How long does it take for a cow to start milking after you bought it? I bought my second in the 1st summer, and a year later it still has the question mark over its head when I try to milk it.

Also, did the gamecube ga\me price go down or something? My local vid game store is selling them for 39.99 instead of the usual 49.99.
Thanks

Use Soap
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Post by: Pikkcuber on March 29, 2004, 03:47:07 PM
Hey use soap starting last november about some third party developers (capcom,natsume,whoever makes the ninja turteles game i think) have put some of there games at a MSRP of 39.99 thank god. Nintendo should do the same thing.  And its been really influenceing me.  The 40 dollar price tag got me to buy viewtiful joe when i  might not have.  And i might have bought pokemon coloseum instead of harvest moon if they were both 50.  Nintendo should think of putting some new games at 40$.
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Post by: slacker on March 30, 2004, 07:31:28 AM
Use Soap, cows only give milk after giving birth.  Chances are, the cow that you bought did not give birth yet, so you need to breed it.  Either that or its sick.
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Post by: Pikkcuber on April 02, 2004, 05:32:03 PM
Hey i finally found the game.  It only took 6 hours of driving round trip to find a copy.  Well i was wondering if anyone knew where to buy food for my dog.  Since i cant find any does this mean he  doesn't need any?
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Post by: Infernal Monkey on April 02, 2004, 06:03:42 PM
Nah, the dog still needs food. I'm not sure if you can buy special dog food or what, but I've been feeding him 'FAILED COOKING' (Heh, I can't even cook in the digital world) and these little plant things I pick out of the dirt around the place. Poor pointy ear dog. ;__;
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Post by: Use Soap on April 03, 2004, 08:15:24 AM
Dang, there goes some more money...
What about birthed cows, do they have to wait until after pregnancy?
And, how long do the trees take to harvest?
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Post by: Bloodworth on April 04, 2004, 01:51:48 AM
Cows: You have to impregnate them and wait about thirty days for them to give birth and then wait a few more days for them to start giving drinkable milk, which they continue giving for about a year.  I'm not sure how long the calves take to grow up, but even if you buy a heifer, it will be some time before you can breed it.  In any case, it's important to always have one pregnant cow to cut down in any downtime in milk production.

Trees take several seasons to reach maturity, then start bearing fruit in specific seasons.  You can shake the tree every day to get fruit, but it seems the seeds are worth a lot more than the fruit themselves.
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Post by: Bloodworth on April 04, 2004, 03:05:58 AM
I say we move this party to Gameplay Help.  Especially since people are asking the same questions.