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Will Nintendo pull off another 30 for 30 in Japan sales this year and, if so, how many times?

Yes. 1 time.
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Yes. 2 times.
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Yes. 3 times.
1 (9.1%)
Yes. 4 times.
1 (9.1%)
Yes. 5 times.
1 (9.1%)
Yes. 6 times.
0 (0%)
Yes. 7 times.
1 (9.1%)
Yes. 8 times.
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Yes. 9 times.
2 (18.2%)
Ninten-domination! 10 times or more that the top 30 goes to Nintendo Software.
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No. It doesn't happen once this year. Sony plays spoiler.
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« Reply #1325 on: May 17, 2007, 01:43:39 PM »
Nintendo top 4 NPD!

No third party Wii games though? /cry
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« Reply #1326 on: May 17, 2007, 01:55:05 PM »
GBA > PS3. LOL
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« Reply #1327 on: May 17, 2007, 06:53:58 PM »
And the Hurt doesn't stop at the NPD for US & Canada

Media Create May 5th - May 13th

01./00. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix) - 154,891 /  New!
02./01. [DS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix) - 38,003 / 421,333
03./03. [Wii] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 30,180 / 1,573,776
04./10. [DS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 27,930 / 4,266,115
05./08. [DS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 21,332 / 4,440,924
06./02. [Wii] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo) - 20,670 / 330,851
07./05. [Wii] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 20,498 / 1,299,628
08./07. [Wii] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo) - 20,063 / 117,487
09./09. [DS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson) - 18,547 / 143,189
10./04. [DS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo) - 17,423 / 808,555

11./13. [DS] More English Training (Nintendo)
12./15. [DS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
13./11. [DS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom)
14./14. [DS] Panel de Pon DS (Nintendo)
15./06. [DS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo)
16./12. [DS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
17./16. [DS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
18./17. [DS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5)
19./18. [DS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
20./20. [DS] English Training (Nintendo)
21./21. [DS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco)
22./22. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
23./41. [DS] 1000 Recipes (Nintendo)
24./34. [DS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute)
25./19. [DS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix)
26./00. [PS2] Wrestling Kingdom 2: Pro Wrestling World War (Yuke's)  New!
27./25. [PSP] Final Fantasy (Square-Enix)
28./43. [DS] Cooking Navi (Nintendo)
29./30. [DS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.)
30./37. [DS] Tetris DS (Nintendo)

31./23. [DS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon)
32./26. [PS2] Pro Baseball Spirits 4 (Konami)
33./46. [DS] Phoenix Wright 2 (Capcom)
34./27. [PS2] Persona 3: Fes (Atlus)
35./35. [DS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo)
36./24. [DS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon)
37./31. [PS2] Musou Orochi (Koei)
38./39. [DS] DS Kageyama Method Electronic Kanji Drills (Shogakukan)
39./44. [DS] Puyo-Puyo! (Sega)
40./36. [DS] Nodame Cantabile (Bandai-Namco)
41./00. [DS] SimCity DS (EA)  New!
42./38. [PSP] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Baseball Portable 2 (Konami)
43./32. [DS] Crayon Shin-chan DS: Arashi wo Sakebunutte Crayon Daisakusen! (Banpresto)
44./29. [Wii] One Piece: Unlimited Adventure (Bandai-Namco)
45./48. [DS] IQ Supply (Spike)
46./00. [DS] TOEIC Test Training DS (IE Institute)  New!
47./00. [DS] Phoenix Wright: Gyakuten Revival (Capcom)  New!
48./28. [DS] Tamagotchi's Splendid Rainbow-venture (Bandai-Namco)
49./50. [PSP] Gundam SEED Alliance vs. ZAFT Portable (Bandai-Namco)
50./33. [Wii] Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Nintendo)

# of Games Sold by System (Currently in no order):
Wii- 6 games
DS- 35 games
GBA- 0 games
PS3- 0 games
PS2- 4 games
PSP- 5 games
XBox 360- 0 games

Number of New Games: 5 games

# First Party Games Split by Company
Nintendo: 22
Sony: 0
Microsoft: 0

First to Third Party Number and Ratios by Company
19 out of 41 or 46% of games Published for a Nintendo System were 3rd Party.
9 out of 9 or 100% of games Published for a Sony System were 3rd Party.

Hardware - This Week | Last Week |       YTD |        LTD
1. DS   -   163,824 |   285,192 | 3,052,216 | 17,057,895
2. Wii   -    52,544 |   101,320 | 1,504,716 |  2,424,359
3. PSP   -    34,433 |    35,172 |   873,828 |  5,405,957
4. PS2   -    10,414 |    14,815 |   335,018 | 20,489,877
5. PS3   -     8,839 |    12,974 |   425,895 |    883,453
6. 360   -     2,105 |     3,205 |    95,655 |    360,357
7. GBA   -       769 |       653 |    36,076 | 15,334,155
8. GC   -       315 |       394 |     7,078 |  4,176,546

GBA = 18 GBA + 343 SP + 408 Micro
DS = 39 DS + 163,785 Lite


Legend:

Game- Nintendo System
Game- Sony System
Game- Microsoft System

Disclaimer: All of the above non-Media Create links and data was auto-generated from the Media Create Data.  Therefore the accuracy of the links have not been verified



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RE: Official Wii Sales Thread
« Reply #1328 on: May 17, 2007, 07:26:34 PM »
I'm not at all worried about Wii numbers because they're selling out everything they make. More worrying to me is the lack of Wii games on that chart, especially third party ones. I can't wait for the third party floodgates to open up, and hope that Dragon Quest Swords can stay in the top 10 for three weeks... yeah, that'd be great.
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« Reply #1329 on: May 17, 2007, 07:29:14 PM »
Have there even been any 3rd party games for Wii in Japan that merit high sales?
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« Reply #1330 on: May 17, 2007, 07:39:19 PM »
... good point. Well, DBZ moved something like 200k I believe.

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« Reply #1331 on: May 17, 2007, 07:42:11 PM »
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... good point. Well, DBZ moved something like 200k I believe.

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« Reply #1332 on: May 17, 2007, 11:25:54 PM »
Perhaps Sony, MS, and pretty much everyone really was wrong.
I mean Nintendo's assessment that if all the next-gen consoles offered nothing but improved graphics people would lose interest in them seemed like BS when it was first made at a time when graphics seemed like it was ALL that mattered to the mainstream audience.
But with the 360 being beaten by the PS2 and the PS3 being beaten by the GBA of all things, Nintendo is starting to prove itself right.
I mean, imagine if there was no Wii. What would become of the game console market as we know it? The US would have the 360 which is doing ok but doesn't look like it will ever have the kind of presence the PSX/PS2 had. Possibly not even close to it, in fact. Then there's Japan which would probably abandon consoles entirely and become strictly handheld territory.
Nintendo may have very well saved the console market again, just as it did over two decades ago when Atari nearly killed it. I mean looking at these numbers it's pretty clear that a year and a half into the next generation of consoles the only thing making any kind of real impact is the Wii.

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« Reply #1333 on: May 17, 2007, 11:59:01 PM »
Yeah... that's what makes this such a great story: No one, save the most fanatical fanbois, believed them. And here they are, proving an entire industry (and what's more, an entire internet) wrong, leading instead of following, and completely changing the game instead of merely following the more hardware, more power, more money conventions.
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« Reply #1334 on: May 18, 2007, 04:32:18 AM »
I don't think it's a wholesale rejection of graphics. Costs this gen have at least as much to do with the results as anything.

Nintendo would basically have the same sales, but if PS3 were $400 or less, there'd obviously be a lot more fire behind Sony. It's going to be interesting to see exactly how the market reacts to Sony's eventual price drops. But the slow start is probably stunting them from even being able to catch up anytime in the next year and a half, and by then the Wii/360 momentum may have gimped their chance entirely. Oh wellz.
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« Reply #1335 on: May 18, 2007, 05:03:03 AM »
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I don't think it's a wholesale rejection of graphics. Costs this gen have at least as much to do with the results as anything. Nintendo would basically have the same sales, but if PS3 were $400 or less, there'd obviously be a lot more fire behind Sony.
But, if Sony lauched a $200/$300 PS3, wouldn't there be wholesale abandonment of Sony itself? Without a $600 PS3, there'd be no FF XIII and MGS4 and GTA4 for Sony graphics whores to hang on to. Sony fans wouldn't stand for a graphically inferior PS3.
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« Reply #1336 on: May 18, 2007, 06:01:05 AM »
No. That's EXACTLY the tragedy of it. Sony didn't win because of hardware, that's not why people loved them. They loved them because of the GAMES that landed on a cheap, mass market, dominant system, and after two entire generations of utter dominance Sony never learned this one simple fact.
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« Reply #1337 on: May 18, 2007, 06:15:09 AM »
If Sony was willing and assuming is able to bear a $300 price tag with the hardware as is, then Sony would have been able steam roll Nintendo. The Playstation brand would have been able to pull enough of the existing userbase over to next gen. But at $600, it was no longer an issue of price sticker shock, it became phyisically unaffordable. Kens infamous words of needing 2 jobs to buy a PS3 became true.

Considering that Microsoft with it's near infinite resources weren't willing to go to that price with the 360, Sony would have never survied long enough to implament it's so-called 10 year plan or even a 5 year plan. The division's continued unprofitablility after launch at that level would have caused a shareholder revolt to the like that has never been seen before. Shareholders were, before the launch unhappy with it's sliding share price after the $600 E3 incident. The first quarterly report after launch would have been a double binded A4 sized Armageddon device.

The Shareholders would have demanded a solution that would end have caused the destruction of the company or the games division or best case, where we are now. The share price could have crashed and that would have been it, worse than Sega. The  Playstation division suspended or jetisioned. Or thirdly the price of the PS3 goes up sharply to levels like now or higher, killing sales and causing comsumer backlash rivalling the Warth of God.

If they went for a $300 machine, it would have went against everything that they were doing for the last 10 years. At every turn regardless if they were the weakest machine out there, would push the graphics in King message. With PSX, it was FMV, PS2 the emotion engine and Toy story. The PSP, handheld PS2. Sony would have never gone for it no matter how much sense it might have made. With Microsoft egging them on and calling them chicken, it was a forgone conculsion that the PS3 is what it is.

But if by some strange twisit of fate that they did produce a $300 machine, that would have produced it's own problems. They would had to fight it's own graphics hype like Nintendo has to fight Gamecube 1.5. It's controller would have still lacked rumble and would have had a difficult time fighting off the superior Wiimote. MS would take the HD section, Nintendo the low end and Sony would be stuck in the middle in a poor compromise. Had Sony launched the same time as MS with a weaker machine, they would have had an even chance. The hardcore would have been pissed to no end with the lack of HD or graphics, but the average consumer would have seen a new playstation that was affordable. But there would have been no games ready for launch and every dev developing for the PS3 would have had to start their own Manhatten projects to get anything on the machine within a year of launch. A year of utterly crap games.  
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« Reply #1338 on: May 18, 2007, 06:35:04 AM »
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If they went for a $300 machine, it would have went against everything that they were doing for the last 10 years. At every turn regardless if they were the weakest machine out there, would push the graphics in King message. With PSX, it was FMV, PS2 the emotion engine and Toy story. The PSP, handheld PS2. Sony would have never gone for it no matter how much sense it might have made. With Microsoft egging them on and calling them chicken, it was a forgone conculsion that the PS3 is what it is.

But if by some strange twisit of fate that they did produce a $300 machine, that would have produced it's own problems. They would had to fight it's own graphics hype like Nintendo has to fight Gamecube 1.5. It's controller would have still lacked rumble and would have had a difficult time fighting off the superior Wiimote. MS would take the HD section, Nintendo the low end and Sony would be stuck in the middle in a poor compromise. Had Sony launched the same time as MS with a weaker machine, they would have had an even chance. The hardcore would have been pissed to no end with the lack of HD or graphics, but the average consumer would have seen a new playstation that was affordable. But there would have been no games ready for launch and every dev developing for the PS3 would have had to start their own Manhatten projects to get anything on the machine within a year of launch. A year of utterly crap games.


I don't know. I personally believe that the PlayStation brand was strong enough to have counter-balanced these problems for the most part...

If Sony's losses continue on this magnitude, do you think they'll abandon the gaming market, or just retreat from next-gen, retrench with PS2 and PSP? Sony actually has a 10 year console on their hands. It's called the PS2.

Edit: Go Go Germany! The Wii is almost the #1 console there, and at this rate will be in 6 months!

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1. Wii: 20,000
2. PS3: 16,000
3. Xbox 360: 9,500
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« Reply #1339 on: May 18, 2007, 07:22:25 AM »
Do these April NPD numbers include the 360 Elite or will those not come out until the May NPD?  It's got to be the second one.
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« Reply #1340 on: May 18, 2007, 07:29:28 AM »
I think the NPD #'s only include the Elite for about a week or so. Didn't it come out at the end of April?  

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« Reply #1341 on: May 18, 2007, 07:37:24 AM »
Street date was like the 28th.  But I heard there were going to be at least a couple hundred thousand and reports were that they were all preordered.  If April NPD includes Elite sales the 360 sales figure should be noticeably higher than previous months.
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« Reply #1342 on: May 18, 2007, 08:41:31 AM »
The Playstation brand is only as tough as its consumers.

And history has shown that consumers realized how much they WEREN'T willing to spend.  Took a whole generation, and next-gen transition, and a next-gen portable to figure that out.
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« Reply #1343 on: May 18, 2007, 12:22:13 PM »
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Street date was like the 28th.  But I heard there were going to be at least a couple hundred thousand and reports were that they were all preordered.  If April NPD includes Elite sales the 360 sales figure should be noticeably higher than previous months.


Heh, nobody bought a 360 until the day the Elite came out and only Elites were sold this month.

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« Reply #1344 on: May 18, 2007, 01:00:57 PM »
Elite is a great package BTW, I am 100% satisfied with it!
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« Reply #1345 on: May 18, 2007, 01:36:29 PM »
Well, looks like the Wii is selling faster than even the PS2 did in its first six months.  In fact the PS3 is slower than the Gamecube at this point in its life.  Check out the comparison at Joystic.

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Wii (2,470,000)
PS2 (2,200,000)
Xbox (1,900,000)
GameCube (1,540,000)
Xbox 360 (1,384,000)
PS3 (1,271,000)


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« Reply #1346 on: May 22, 2007, 12:17:08 PM »
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Elite is a great package BTW, I am 100% satisfied with it!


Really?  I was hoping it would at least have a built in HD DVD drive, that would have sealed the deal for me.  Although my initial run 360 is starting to make some funny noises, so I might be having to pick up a replacement soon.
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« Reply #1347 on: May 22, 2007, 08:08:25 PM »
The Elite has no built-in Wireless. Are you CRAZY GoldenPhoenix?
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« Reply #1348 on: May 23, 2007, 03:40:53 AM »
Well if you never wanted wireless, then you wouldn't care.

It will be interesting to see what effect the Elite sales have on the May charts, if any.
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« Reply #1349 on: May 23, 2007, 04:56:10 PM »
So... George Harrison thinks that Nintendo can move 35 million Wiis in the US by 2011 or 2012 according to Bloomberg.

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Nintendo Co. expects to sell as many as 35 million Wii video-game consoles in the U.S., close to the record 38.2 million PlayStation 2 players sold by Sony Corp.

The company will reach its goal by 2011 or 2012, George Harrison, marketing chief at Nintendo of America Inc., a unit of Kyoto-based Nintendo Co., said in an interview today.


Strike anyone here as particularly ambitious? Between now and 2012, there are about 68 months, and assuming 2.5 mil Wiis have already sold...

...they'd need to average 480k Wiis sold a month! That means that Nintendo would have to REALLY kick up production to PS2 levels, the Wii needs to continue selling out, and that it would need to really capture broad third party support (or that the market would just get really big).
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