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Originally posted by: Shift Key
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Originally posted by: EasyCure
everythings falls into these catagories to me: rock, rap, dance.
These three labels make a mockery of the bands who decide to blend musical styles and create their own sound, because they get pidgeon-holed along with everyone else. For people who are fans of a given genre, they like to be able to distinguish between styles. Because there is a huge difference.
Example: Sublime (someone else mentioned it in here, bravo sir). Depending on what song you were playing at the time, you could be hearing a hip-hop song (Doin' Time), a reggae song (Boss DJ), a rock song (Santeria), a cover song (Rivers of Babylon) or even a hilarious song about date rape (even though he now takes it in the behind - DATE RAPE )
Considering that they've covered a good two-thirds of your categories, do we invent a fourth, fifth, six, ad infinitum.
Am I hitting my head against the metaphorical wall here or what?
well first of all i said TO ME, thats how i catogorize music. i also did mention i do use other labels if a band can cross genres and Sublime is a perfect example (and a band i forgot to keep off my list). Any great band can cross genres and still keep their appeal so i usually stick to what they fundamentally are. Look at the clash, they have songs that fall into the punk, reggea, and even hiphop styles but they´re still a rock band at heart, even if they branch out (and Sublimes cover of ´HOPE´by the Descendents is a great PUNK cover).
but im not here to argue about labels of music, i just wanted to state how i feel about the situation. i have too many times been subject to idiots who go on and on about ´i hate numetal, its all about death metal, numetal is gayy´ and all i ever want to do is punch someone in the nose for pigeon holding a whole other style of music because they usually base their opinion on the entire genre by one band they might not find to be good. i feel that if the subgenres didnt exist people might be a little more open minded about things, but i might just be a dreamer.
to me if you like rock music, you should be able to be pretty open to all forms of it. same goes for the other categories i listed. i used to listen to only punk rock bands when i was a kid and wrongully so. one day i wised up and checked out some of the influences of all those punkbands i liked or just some of the other artist they would listen to and found a bunch of good music. thats when i learned that labels were stupid and subjective.
now, not to flame Maryjane or anything but if you look at his previous post he got deffensive when someone called Rage Against the Machine (good band but one im not too fond of) a PUNK band.
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[Since WhenTF is Rage a punk band? I feel so insulted, I'm currently considering spending over $1000 for a weekend in California to see Rage play in the Coachella festival.
I wouldn't even spend $1 to see a punk band
thats what im talking about. i used to be that way too about numetal bands back when i was like 13. im not trying to insult maryjane because he´s just defending a band he admires and people do get defensive. i just use this as an example of why labels are stupid. the person he was quoting (sorry im not sure who you are) called Rage a punk band and you yourself explained why they are a punk band even though they dont have the punk ¨sound´. to me its just rock. good rock at that.
im pasionate about ´punk rock´ music probably more so than any other but i hate the term punk rock because people usually consider that a particular sound when its not, its an attitude . you yourself explained it before, and very well i might add. Except in your explanation you used The Ramones as an example for their ´General disrespect towards the world¨but did you know Johnny Ramone, one of the founding memebers of the band, is a die hard republican and the only political song they have ever done as a group (bonzo goes to bitzburg) he fought to keep off any album.
By todays standards the Ramones would be a considered a PopPunk band and would be lumped into a catagory with bands like simple plan and good charlotte because of what PopPunk sounds like. To me thats completely unfair to such a great band, but technically they are they just shouldnt be thrown in with bands dont dont mean anything. they wrote catchy songs and wanted to be POPular artists. its what they strived for, they just happened to have a FU attitude and didnt care about it obsesively.
the Ramones are a perfect example of why i just use Rock as a blanket term instead of all those genres because at its heart the ideals of the music are the same as the birth of rock and people viewed it in the same manner= loud, fast, dangerous and kids shouldnt listen to it. the times changed tho and they were the new loud, fast, and dangerous bands. because singing songs about beating up the rich snobby kids in queens and sniffing glue because you´re bored were dangerous at the time. its only rock n roll (and yes, i like it)
ps. dude your avatar scares me
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