Topic: Xbox Year over Year Growth?

[WuTangTurtle]

NPD Funworld stated that xbox was the only console company to have a Year over Year growth......BS and they that Sony had a -22% and Nintendo had a -18%, wtf?

I'm not sure what Year over Year growth is exactly but from what im thinking it is i dont see how Xbox had a postive and Nintendo had a negative growth.  Especially when Nintendo had that price cut and was selling alot.

Here's the link if u want it. (then again it is a Microsoft website)
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2004/mar04/03-29ConsolePriceDropPR.asp

[Bill Aurion]

Why is this in Gamecube Discussion?

[Berto2K]

They are refering to Jan/Feb of this year over Jan/Feb last year.  Cube price-cut didn't come till late in the year.

[WuTangTurtle]

1. sorry i didnt know where to put this.

2. i figured they meant a whole year or something.

[KDR_11k]

Other sources say the GC saw a rise. MS is known for lies and paid-for studies (like "150 bucks is cheaper than free"), I wouldn't trust them farther than you can ram them into the earth.

[ruby_onix]

From the NPD numbers that we've heard (and collected in the GameCube board's NPD thread)...

- February 2003 -
PS2: 484,000 (+8% over January sales)
XBOX: 197,000 (+20%)
GCN: 164,000 (+103%)
GBA: 282,000 (+6%)

- February 2004 -
PS2: 363,000 [+7% over January sales]
Xbox: 204,000 [+6%]
GCN: 137,000 [+5%]
GBA: 353,000 [+18%]

So yeah, the XBox is the only console to currently have a February that was better than their last one (assuming we don't count the GBA, which did even better in that regard than the XBox).

Of course, last year the GameCube seems to have had a "spike" in February, and this year Nintendo still seems to be recovering from a mid-December hardware-sellout issue.

[thecubedcanuck]

year to year growth simply refers to increased sales fron the previous fiscal year.
example

year 1 - 2000 units sold
year 2 - 2200 units sold
year 3 - 2500 units sold

This is actually a good sign for MS. On a side note, it would be nearlt impossible for Sony to accomplish this as they sold such a large number of units in year 1.  

[ruby_onix]

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year to year growth simply refers to increased sales fron the previous fiscal year.

I dunno about that. Using the Feb 03 figures I mentioned...

PS2: 484,000 - 29% = 343,640
XBOX: 197,000 + 2% = 200,940
GCN: 164,000 - 18% = 134,480

The results look pretty close to the Feb 04 numbers. And NPD does "readjust" older figures as they go along, apparently.

If we're thinking an "entire (fiscal) year" thing, it would probably still have to be February (American fiscal year maybe, I don't know) as Microsoft specifically pointed February out. I don't know about Feb 2002, but in 03 the installed base was:
PS2: 16,802,000
XBOX: 4,962,000
GCN: 3,828,000
GBA: 12,441,000

...and in Feb 04 it was:
PS2: 22,958,000
Xbox: 8,187,000
GCN: 7,133,000
GBA: 20,601,000

That means the total increase from Feb 03 to Feb 04 was (quick subtraction):
PS2: 6,156,000
Xbox: 3,225,000
GCN: 3,305,000
GBA: 8,160,000

So the GameCube beat the XBox in America, from Feb-to-Feb. It's hard to believe that counts as a "20% weaker spanking" than the GameCube gave the XBox during this period last year.

Of course, both consoles did launch in Nov 2001. Perhaps Microsoft's trying to juggle some numbers around that. (Like, the XBox launched earlier, was probably more successful, so they hide those positive numbers in a little Jan-to-Feb window, and pretend they've had a "come from behind victory!" since day one.)

Edit: Make that a "Nov-to-Jan window". Not sure what I was thinking there...

[Munky]

Since the link goes to Microsoft.com, I don't trust it. Just like I wouldn't trust it if it was on Sony.com or Nintendo.com. All three make it sound as if they're doing better than the others, all of them lie about sales figures. Which is the main reason why I don't bother with sales figures for consoles.

[Shift Key]

Smells fishy. Take it with a grain of salt.
Reminds me of a similar MS ad (link from their website) comparing the costs involved with running a Linux server versus a Microsoft server for a business - of course the article was favouring MS but they'd be crazy to do otherwise. You could turn most surveys or research into a view that favours anyone, so I'd just be cautious about who's behind them.

As far as non-statistical facts go, Nintendo did improve greatly on sales (which contradicts the article, I know) with the price cut around Christmas, but after was the whole "We've empties our warehouses and didn't think to manufacture more" months - which are probably why sales dropped.

[VAVA Mk-2]

NPD is an unbiased, valid source, unlike MS, Nintendo, or Sony so stop your bitching.  If they say it is true, than you better believe it, fanboy.