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Offline Grey Ninja

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« Reply #25 on: June 12, 2003, 12:06:49 PM »
Read my frickin post.  I said it wasn't deserving of my respect as the console has few merits.  I at least have the courtesy to read your posts.
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« Reply #26 on: June 12, 2003, 12:51:17 PM »
Deserving of your respect? Its a f'ing game machine, they all are, respecting a toy is moronic.

I dont give a crap if its the PS2 the Gamecube, or the Xbox, they are all freaking toys.
You say the X-box is the most like a PC, I say they all are similar to PC's, in that they all run on processors.

To think a console is anything other than a toy for playing games is crazy. You guys put way to much time and effort into this crap.
I play games I like and could give two hoots over what console I play them on.
What I am saying is at the moment the X-box has the most games I like, I also like the controller the best as well.
As for Microsoft, I could care less if they ran nintendo and Sony out of town, I wouldnt lose 2 seconds of sleep over it. I see no problem with windows and I commend Bill Gates on his ruthless business practice, thus is the American dream. Sadly with it comes all the whiners who think life isnt fair, oh please make him stop, screw them, you want him to stop, get bigger than him and put him out of business.

This has nothing to do with maturity, age, or the size of one's unit. These are games and to think one is evel and one is good is both pointless and childish.

Games, thats all they are.
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« Reply #27 on: June 12, 2003, 02:48:59 PM »
Good post canuck.

Ninja. I read your post. I tried to get to the root of your problem. I stand by my reply.  

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« Reply #28 on: June 12, 2003, 06:01:52 PM »
Canuck, I am not going to give you the pleasure of getting worked up over your crap.  Go troll elsewhere.  Flame me for having an opinion again though, and I guarantee I will not rest until one of us gets banned.  I am not going to put up with that crap.
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« Reply #29 on: June 12, 2003, 07:08:58 PM »
Did I mention before about the aliances thing? Along the lines of canucks post, it just doesn't make sense. Last time I around I had an N64 since Launch. This time around its xbox. Next time around it might be ps3. Aliances just don't make sense to me. I wonder people have fights over what brand of cell phone they own?  

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« Reply #30 on: June 12, 2003, 08:06:43 PM »
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As for Microsoft, I could care less if they ran nintendo and Sony out of town, I wouldnt lose 2 seconds of sleep over it.


If MS had a monopoly over the videogames industry, that would be very bad.  What does MS know about the industry?  Do they have the same passion about videogames that Nintendo do?  No, they are in it for the $$$$.  Of cause, Nintendo goal is to make a profit as well, but people like Miyamoto do have a passion for videogames.  Innovative and fresh gameplay developers like Nintendo and Sega have strived hard to give us can be thrown right out the window.  MS wouldn't care if they had the monopoly.

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« Reply #31 on: June 12, 2003, 10:23:57 PM »
No company would care if they had a the monopoly.
That's just exactly what I don't want M$ to do.
They've bought Rare (who don't seem to be delivering much), and there are some interests in Sega.

I didn't even know Pentium was owned by M$ until an Xbox fanboy told me.
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« Reply #32 on: June 12, 2003, 10:50:54 PM »
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I didn't even know Pentium was owned by M$ until an Xbox fanboy told me.


Huh?  I thought Pentium is by Intel?

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« Reply #33 on: June 13, 2003, 01:43:27 AM »
M$ got a monopoly in operating systems, and now most people use the crap called Windows. Microsoft has been splurting out crap about how hard Linux is to use for a while now, and its crap, Linux is almost completly customisable, but people cannot use it because they are used to Windows. If M$ got a hold of the video game industry, I wouldn't just boycot, I'd do all I could to attempt to break it.
       And I'm sick of people telling me I have a blind rage against M$, they don't know they're talking about. Microsoft was a bully and set OS technology back years(but only after programming the exellent DOS), I will have no sympathy for them if they fall down the drain. However, they have recently seemed to have cleaned up their buisness practices, and Windows 2000, while still not adequate, was a step in the right direction. Back on topic: I think no, most PC gamers are devoted to online FPS and RTS, and I think now that Halo is comming to the PC (if it still even is), most PC gamers will feel happy with their PC's . Just my theory, though.
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« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2003, 02:02:35 AM »
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Canuck, I am not going to give you the pleasure of getting worked up over your crap. Go troll elsewhere. Flame me for having an opinion again though, and I guarantee I will not rest until one of us gets banned. I am not going to put up with that crap.


Trolling? Flaming? Bannishment?Putting up with that crap?

What are you talking about? A slight overreaction I think. What I basically told you is that I dont give a crap about the industry as a whole, or any of the companies that make games or consoles. I play games I like, I could care less is Nike started making them using Afghan child labor. If I like the game I will play it either way.


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Aliances just don't make sense to me. I wonder people have fights over what brand of cell phone they own?


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What does MS know about the industry? Do they have the same passion about videogames that Nintendo do? No, they are in it for the $$$$.


Again, WHO CARES what there reasons are. I dont care if they dont know about the industry, or if Bill Gates even plays games, if they make a few games I like then that is all I ask.

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M$ got a monopoly in operating systems, and now most people use the crap called Windows.


I have no problem at all with windows. As for the monopoly, they built this "monopoly" from the ground up. Martha Stewart has a monopoly on bed sheets, whay arent you ragging her? I honstly hope she gets into the gaming market. "Decorate your garden" exclusivly for the PS2 and X-box. I can hear the bitching now.

As for the Pentium chip, it is owned By Intel corp.

So in closing I say again, they are only games, play them, enjoy them, have a coke and a smile and STFU.
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« Reply #35 on: June 13, 2003, 02:06:02 AM »
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So in closing I say again, they are only games, play them, enjoy them, have a coke and a smile and STFU


if you really belived that why are you on a forum? im sure PGC and other sites provide enough news so you dont need to actually use the forums, well whatever (tetra owns)

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« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2003, 02:15:35 AM »
I'm not ragging because as far as I know, Martha Stewart doesn't make terrible bedsheets then force people to use them by paying off the bed companies so her sheets, and her sheets only fit most of the beds. That was a bad example, but you know what I mean.  
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« Reply #37 on: June 13, 2003, 03:10:49 AM »
Yeah, MS is evil that's why they were fined 160 million for "rigging markets and keeping prices artificially high. "

Oh wait a minute, wasn't that NINTENDO.  


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« Reply #38 on: June 13, 2003, 03:24:33 AM »
"Huh? I thought Pentium is by Intel?"

Sorry, I meant Intel was owned (partly or whole I don't know) by M$.
I could be wrong though.
M$ owns so many companies it's not funny.

You know, Hal and Lois from Malcom in the Middle on an episode a month ago were going through a crisis where they couldn't have sex until Lois finished her pills.
The house actually gets clean, and grass grows at the front. They owed their successes to no sex, and then they say:
"You know, it's been so great since we stopped having sex!"
"I think all those people who are really successful hardly have any sex at all!"
"What about Bill Gates?"
"Probably NEVER!"

Haha. It was delivered better in the episode.
It's just a random making-fun-of-william thing.
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« Reply #39 on: June 13, 2003, 03:35:01 AM »
Gee, have we not figured out that monopolies in general ARE BAD. The fact that nintendo was one does less to change that fact. Microsoft's intent is a monopoly, which to anyone should be bad.

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« Reply #40 on: June 13, 2003, 04:36:39 AM »
I never said M$ was evil, I just said they had a monopily and forced their product onto users. Nintendo had a monopoly in SNES days, but they had one because they made the best product, not because it was ofrced onto users. I am not trying to defend Nintendo here, though, I also believe all monopolies ae bad.
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« Reply #41 on: June 13, 2003, 12:31:31 PM »
That Macolm in the middle storyline sounds like it was stolen from and episode of Seinfeld. Only its sounded like it wasn't as well executed.


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« Reply #42 on: June 13, 2003, 08:59:55 PM »
Ocarina Blue: History lesson for ya: http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa033099.htm

Ymeegod: Microsoft was on court for YEARS for having a monopoly, unfair businss practices, etc. They are currently involved in multiple patent infringement suits and the only thing that saved their a###s is that they own the law. The US government LOVES these large companies, they let 'em do whatever they want, ask Ashcroft if you have any doubts!
Hell, Microsoft withheld API-data "because it would endanger national security"! Need more proof they know Windows is insecure?
N was slammed in the EU for that price-fixing, MS is still pending. They probably won't get away as easily.

Canuck: I believe your monopoly-statement was an outright lie, or not thought out well. Embracing a monopoly is like voting Dictatorship! Hell, M$ won't care about ANYTHING after they've got the monopoly, they will sure as hell drive up prices. The only thing that got the XB's price down from USD480 was competition. I can't find anything I like in a scenario where hardware was 500+ and games 70-80 a piece.

On another note there's a report on The Register (www.theregister.co.uk) that MS will use an ATI card for the XB2, El Reg thinks there might be some kind of alliance forging between MS and N to attack their common enemy (SONY).

BTW, I'm against using the term "Sony Nazi" on anyone. Capitalist might be fitting, brownnosed might be fitting, but National Socialism has got zero to do with Sony.  

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« Reply #43 on: June 14, 2003, 04:22:18 AM »
Cough Alpex Cough.

Might want to look that up before you slash at MS. :0  

Also, there isn't any lawsuit against MS in europe for price fixing.  What nintendo was inflating prices (meaning the retail price was alot lower than what retailers were selling).  MS stated the Xbox would RETAIL at 300 Pounds (which is $450ish or so).   Setting different prices in regions is LEGAL.



 

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« Reply #44 on: June 14, 2003, 08:27:46 AM »
I would have a bigger problem inflating prices more then microsoft. Microsoft eventually needs to make money back, and any inflation by nintendo, would just be gravy.  

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« Reply #45 on: June 14, 2003, 06:40:16 PM »
Sorry I didn't make things clear (I wasn't in a good mood at all), when I said they pushed OS technology back years, I was referring to things such as WinModems to 'force' people to use Windows. DOS was brilliant, I commend Microsoft for that, but Window's doesn't deserve a market share anywhere as big as it has now.  
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« Reply #46 on: June 14, 2003, 09:56:14 PM »
Ymeegod: That's like saying "well, but the rapist didn't steal". Both are crimes, both are unfair business practices. To me, maintaining a monopoly is worse than pricefixing, but whichever you prefer...

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« Reply #47 on: June 14, 2003, 10:56:42 PM »
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DOS was brilliant, I commend Microsoft for that, but Window's doesn't deserve a market share anywhere as big as it has now.

Wrong.  MS did not create DOS.  They bought it and updated it.  Later they got sued for not being honest.

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« Reply #48 on: June 15, 2003, 06:46:52 AM »
Hellm, am I the only one who used doctor-dos rather than ms-dos?

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« Reply #49 on: June 15, 2003, 07:03:12 AM »
I've never even heard of doctor dos.
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