Post by: boggy b on May 13, 2003, 10:56:11 AM
http://e3.playstation.com/press_details.asp?id=11
Specs; seem very impressive:
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/402/402220p1.html
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 13, 2003, 11:02:44 AM
Post by: boggy b on May 13, 2003, 11:26:23 AM
And a 1.5Gb storage capacity? That's FFVII on one disk (!).
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 11:37:21 AM
It's all about user base, though, and this time the tables are turned on Sony. Just like in the console business, where even though the XBox and Gamecube are MUCH more powerful than the PS2, the PS2 gets by far the most support because of it's user base. This time, though, Nintendo has the immense user base (the GBA is almost a monopoly) and it's Sony who has the tiny little user base. Besides, technical superiority isn't much considering I haven't heard any developers complain about the GBA's lack of power. Hell, even it has some 3D polygon-pushing engines out now.
Post by: boggy b on May 13, 2003, 11:52:03 AM
And don't forget, Sony has done an almost identical thing to Nintendo in the past.
Post by: Ymeegod on May 13, 2003, 01:45:42 PM
Also it's going support MPEG and higher res.
I'll keep the GBA for now since Sony's still a few years off but at least this means Nintendo's going have to release an GBA2 sooner than later now.Post by: dmbfan755 on May 13, 2003, 02:05:29 PM
Here's some pics-
http://se.gamereactor.net/news/index.asp?NewsID=5130
GO NINTENDO!
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 13, 2003, 03:59:06 PM
"And don't forget, Sony has done an almost identical thing to Nintendo in the past."
Yeah, and they did it with inferior hardware.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 13, 2003, 04:33:00 PM
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Post by: Nintega on May 13, 2003, 05:46:20 PM
Nintendo can easily counter the PSP with the next Gameboy. It'll be backward compatibles with older Gameboy titles but also be able to read Gamecube discs. So basically, developers can continue to develop for the Gamecube except it'll be for the next Gameboy system. This could be the Gamecube SP.
Post by: Ace on May 13, 2003, 06:10:07 PM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on May 13, 2003, 10:13:57 PM
Playstation has a huge user base, and while many of them do have a GBA, I see many of them flocking to the PSP. And I see developers jumping to develop games for the handheld, b/c like I said, PS2 has a huge user base. And that 1.8GB media disc will be attractive to them.
So this begs the question. How much will this cost? How much battery life does it have? I'm sure Sony is smart and will not make it another Game Gear (and I know since I have one).
And I have to say I hate this. Why? Because the reason I like the GBA is to play 2D games. With the PSP looking like a 3D system, Nintendo will have to make their next Game Boy a 3D system. I was hoping it would remain a 2D system. I wish 3D gaming would be left for the home consoles.
Post by: deminisma on May 14, 2003, 12:42:33 AM
Post by: aoi tsuki on May 14, 2003, 01:25:32 AM
Is battery life even an issue anymore? Unless it has a five hour battery i won't complain. Just drop it on the cradle while you get dinner and you're all set.
Definitely an amazing piece of tech on paper, moreso in some ways than the Helix. i don't think Nintendo should be worried, but they should definitely be watching.
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Nintendo can easily counter the PSP with the next Gameboy. It'll be backward compatibles with older Gameboy titles but also be able to read Gamecube discs.
i don't mean to get too off-topic here, but this whole "Nintendo's next portable will play GC games" really irks me. The GC would have to be wildly popular for Nintendo to even consider such a thing. Resizing the display down from 640x480 would be no easy task, nor would shriking a system with a fan and multiple heatsinks into something that fits in your hand without becoming a fire hazard. If Nintendo manages to pull off such a feat of alchemy, i'll buy ten of them.
Post by: Gamefreak on May 14, 2003, 01:36:27 AM
That's smaller than a GCN AND holds more space.
*Gamefreak slaps Nintendo and tells them to make at least a 3 gb disc*
*Gamefreak slaps Panasonic too*
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 14, 2003, 03:57:24 AM
Post by: egman on May 14, 2003, 04:24:53 AM
Even if the PSP fails, the damage will have already been done.
Post by: Dolphin64X on May 14, 2003, 05:26:19 AM
How much will it cost?
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How long will the batteries last?
I don't see them as getting more couple hours off of any battery with all the features they have. But if they have a new battery technology, then it will be...(you guessed it) expensive.
The demise of 2d gaming is indeed a sad thing. I for one would not like to go back to the N64/Playstation days of early 3d. I mean, if I go back to play N64 games, I feel a compulsion to scream "MY EYES!" It's low res, blurry, and murky. The sharp 2d graphics the GameBoy Advance puts out are perfect for portable gaming. I can't even imagine how hard it will be to see an aliased Playstation game on a portable system.
I really hope this comes to nothing. The portable market is Nintendo's last bastion of strength, and if they lose it...I fear to think of the consequences.
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Post by: boggy b on May 14, 2003, 08:01:09 AM
The system will supposedly have power greater than the N64 but lower than the PS2, and that's very good news.
Like I said, if Sony plays its cards right this could be huge. The only thing that irks me slightly is that the screen in 4.5" across. That seems a little big...
Also, why does everyone see this as the end of 2D gaming? As far as I see, this could open the door for even BETTER 2D graphics. Guilty Gear XX on the bus, anyone? FFVI on the way to work? YES PLEASE!
Post by: KatDaddy on May 14, 2003, 08:34:50 AM
This "PSP" sounds like a "one stop" portable entertainment unit. The ability to play much advanced games, connectivity to phone and pc (which would allow remote gaming, or maybe content downloads), storage (basically this thing could become a PDA as well as a portable gaming system. Also, it has the ability to store and play MP3's.
If I were the big "N", I'd seriously be considering the next installment in the GBA hardware genre. If a new user was given the choice of the two, it'd be rather difficult to pass on Sony's offering, even if it costs 2-2.5X the price of the GBA.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 14, 2003, 09:11:11 AM
These are the same people who thought the PS1 was going to flop.
IMO over the next 5 years Sony will take over the handheld market.
Post by: Fammy2000 on May 14, 2003, 09:56:28 AM
Memory Stick. Should have used the PS2 memory card. Scratch that. The PS2 should have used the Memory Stick. Memory Stick was apparently chosen for its "gadget" ability. See the available stuff for the Clie.
Post by: Darc Requiem on May 14, 2003, 09:59:50 AM
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The battery IS Li Ion, and will supposedly have a life of around 6 hours when playing DVD QUALITY FMV.
The system will supposedly have power greater than the N64 but lower than the PS2, and that's very good news.
Like I said, if Sony plays its cards right this could be huge. The only thing that irks me slightly is that the screen in 4.5" across. That seems a little big...
Also, why does everyone see this as the end of 2D gaming? As far as I see, this could open the door for even BETTER 2D graphics. Guilty Gear XX on the bus, anyone? FFVI on the way to work? YES PLEASE!
You seem to be forgetting one huge fact boggy b, Sony was responsible for the demise of 2D on home consoles in the first place. They discouraged 2D games on the PS1 because the Saturn version was usually superior. Sony didn't like the idea of the PS looking inferior and discouraged development of 2D titles, Sony and Capcom got in a huge fight over this and its the reason that Capcom so heavily supported the Dreamcast and was quoted as saying "We will make the Dreamcast succeed if we have to do it on our own." Capcom doesn't like Sony, they are still sore over the Sony trying to tell what to develop back during the PS1 days. Capcom supports Sony because it makes the most since from a business standpoint. Why do you think Capcom gives the support it does to GC and especially X-box(their software sales on X-box were horrendous)? My point is, I hardly see them wanting a huge amount of 2D games on PSP. They will want all 3D titles, to show off the systems power. They won't want any 2D titles. GBA is adept at 2D and not at 3D, they are going to want to make the competition look as weak as possible.
The PSP's technical superiority means nothing and I'll tell you why. The Dreamcast was technically superior to the competition and didnt' dominate. I can tell you why. Sony pulled at stunt that I think Nintendo will do. Sony announced the PS2 and its inflated specs 6 months after the DCs launch in Japan. Sony had the whole gaming world, developers and gamers alike, awaiting the next big thing. Everyone was waiting for the PS2. That announcement had a lot to do with the DC not getting the foothold it should have. Sony launched the PS2 a year early with no games, and solely on hype quelled the DC sales. Nintendo will probably pull a similar stunt. At least I would if I were them. Well except the part about the pure hype and no games. Nintendo will probably announce a GBA successor a few months before launch before boasting even better specs and backward compatibility. That would be the worst case scenario for Nintendo. For all we know the PSP could be the next Turbo Express, a vastly superior system technically, with a larger screen and superior display that bombs due to cost. Anyway enough of my disorganized ramblings.
Darc Requiem
Post by: dmbfan755 on May 14, 2003, 10:39:11 AM
I think it would be even better if nintendo made a product like this because their games are so much better
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 14, 2003, 11:11:42 AM
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-Angus
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Post by: SmellySocks on May 14, 2003, 05:12:36 PM
Asian people like gadgets and this will be another to add to the stack. I can almost guarantee that the PSP will sell decently well over there. Anyone remember the WonderSwan? That did decently well over there...I guess "well" might be stretching it. But obviously, if that undersupported machine can break into the market, I'm sure a Sony system with a lot of backing could do great.
Post by: EggyToast on May 14, 2003, 05:38:16 PM
I would LOVE if Nintendo sucked up the lauch of the PSP with hype for its next system. They recently invested a lot of money in a company that makes solid-state, non-volatile RAM (like Compact Flash cards) at a very small size with a high capacity, up to 1 gig. Why did they invest so much money in that company? For the next Gameboy. We already know that Nintendo can create backwards compatibility even with different-sized cartridges, as long as the widths are the same and the connectors work. They could easily use a new type of cartridge (like Compact Flash, just cards!) that use less power, have faster access, and hold a ton of data and just release an adapter for older games. I'm sure they realize that a big selling point for the GB is the backwards compatibility, so I doubt they would ever give that up. Hell, they can even make the GameCube compatible with the Gameboy ;D
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Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 15, 2003, 01:37:26 PM
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 15, 2003, 03:57:27 PM
The small screen of the PSP is a very big risk if you want 3D games. More powerful than the PSOne, less than the PS2? I don't want to go blind. I had a hard enough time with the N64 and PSOne graphics on my 83cm TV.
Does the PSP have a bigger screen than the GBA? IF it does, coupled with the fact that it's going to be backlit and fast processor means that battery life will be critical. I think this alone is the factor for a portable's success. You could say price, but then if the Xbox and PS2's initial pricing can be seen, no body really cares anymore as long as they have teh cool thing.
Nintendo had better not be shrewed about the PSP, even with their utter domination of the market. I think it's embarissing to have a handheld that has a bigger storage capacity medium than your home console. But Sony will make a few mistakes I think, and I think this handheld won't be as popular as they hope it'll be, even with the millions of PS2 owners. I hope they make their GBA2 something really special. But above all, keep the focus on games. Have some more connectivity like internet gaming and LAN and stuff if they want, but THATS IT. No web surfing, no putting in a mobile phone or any other crazy ideas. The cart should stay though. But I think this is an example of how Nintendo can make a larger storage capacity for GC2, but keeping it small, and piracy-protected. And release the GBA2 along side the GC2 for that extra bang for your buck. Make connectivity a focus. You've done it with the GC, so make it more better on GC2.
Hang on, did you (boggy b) say that the screen is 4.5"? That IS big. 11cm. Man!
And and hey, I saw Infernal's Jaguar (was it a Jaguar?), and bloody hell that thing is f**cking huge. I think it was funny how the three of us (Me, Mario and Joeyjojo) were playing Four Swords on the GBA and Infernal was playing that mother ass huge 'handheld'. Haha.
Post by: Dolphin64X on May 15, 2003, 04:05:56 PM
The real problem is the whole battery issue. It does not seem feasible to keep a system alive for a reasonable time on any battery, with all the features they're putting into it.
Simply, it's got a lot of technical hurdles to overcome. Batteries, price, medium, portability. But if Sony is able to pull it all together, Nintendo could really be in trouble. As I see it, it could open up a whole new market in portable gaming-people who buy XBoxes and PS2's, but not a GameBoy Advance because it's not "cool."
Post by: ThePerm on May 15, 2003, 04:33:38 PM
Post by: KDR_11k on May 15, 2003, 10:35:45 PM
2. How could Nintendo counter this thing? Simple! Give the Cube a battery that survives long enough and of course the LCD. And at the current pricing, they could probably produce it at the same price of a PSP...
Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 16, 2003, 12:32:52 AM
Although people would be looking forward to the PSP, since it's from Sony, more people know about the Game Boy, and so I'll bet you anything that the whole gaming community is wondering what Nintendo are doing about this. Nintendo should be getting the most technically advanced stuff for a handheld, then wait like 6 months before the PSP is release to announce GBA2. I remember how Sony did that to Sega and the Saturn. Sega quickly put in some extra chips for 3D play to even compete with the PSX and still failed. If Nintendo do this, and come out with a battery-wise more powerful system that can just equal to the stuff PSP can do, all with a front-lit screen, then they've got a winner. Sony would sh*t themselves, and add in some chips, and before long, there will be Sony-lovers in hospital from burnt hands. Haha.
Portable Cube is the next best thing of course, but then it's not something you can fit into your pocket. But the Wavebird made this idea more ideal.
Post by: thecubedcanuck on May 16, 2003, 02:31:07 AM
Also being able connect to the PS2 and the new PS3 will give Sony a huge edge thanks to its massive user base.
Post by: JSasky on May 16, 2003, 09:49:33 AM
I would have to agree with most posts here about the issues for a succesfull launch of this product.
1. Price point, I think the max you could charge for this thing is $200. Better systems than the GBA have come out in the past but the GBA out priced them.
2. Battery life. Spinning disk, 3D chip, backlight display, big display, all of these things add up to shorten play time.
3. Sony's position on copyright material. Think this thing will be able to play all the MP3 out there? Or any movie ever produced? Doubtfull, Sony's minidisk and MP3 players only support certified music <--read music you directly paid for. And as for video, this system seems to have 2 options, either on the disc or on the memory stick. For movies the PP would have to use the disk I would think, and how many movies do you know are printed on mini DVD? Probably only movies that Sony has rights too.
I think Sony has a lot of issues to deal with to make this any sort of success, and it sounds to me like this is some kind of dream system some Sony exec. came up with to steal some thunder from Nintendos and Xbox E3.
Post by: Rhoq on May 16, 2003, 10:25:29 AM
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1. History shows that inferior technology always succeeds (x86, Windows, PS2, VHS, ...)
You, my friend, sound like a fellow Mac user!
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Post by: Termin8Anakin on May 16, 2003, 09:45:38 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Sony started calling all their products PlayStation simply to sell more of them. The PlayStation TV. The PlayStation Stereo. The Sony Ericsson PlayStation (egh, scrub that, there's the PSP). Heck, why not make a company CALLED PlayStation?
The PlayStation PlayStation 4, by Sony. Hahaha.
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 17, 2003, 07:52:34 AM
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Post by: MajorLocke on May 17, 2003, 07:30:03 PM
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Name alone goes so far. If you would like examples look at the N64.
Why do you think the PlayStation 2 sold so much when it launched? Because it had some must-have games at its launch? Haha, yeah right, it's because everyone had to have one because of its cool factor and that it's the sequel to the PlayStation. The same thing will happen with the PSP, even if it has some must-have games at its launch.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 17, 2003, 08:05:13 PM
Maybe I didn't make my point before, but I will again in case it will stick this time.
The N64 launched after two consoles, both of which were slowly racking up games. After N64s launch it started to lower in sales because frankly, there wasn't any games coming out fast enough anymore.
What you are claiming is that it will live with sustained sales just on name alone with as of right now few to none developers signed on. And don't even try to say well PS2 did it because we both know the circumstances that time will be much different the second time around.
Post by: loserfish13 on May 18, 2003, 11:36:37 AM
Post by: mouse_clicker on May 18, 2003, 01:43:32 PM
Yes, name recognition had a lot to do with the PS2 selling so well at launch, but it was ALSO because it was the next generation of home consoles and was much more powerful than anything on the market. The handheld market is different entirely- it's trying to break into a market that 99% of is controlled by one company- that's EXTREMELY difficult, and name recognition alone will very little.
Besides, how good is YOUR example when I can provide 5 very good examples of when name recognition didn't do anything. Nintendo lost almost half the home console market to Sega despite being almost synonomous with videogames- Sega did with this despite having an extremely poor selling first console. Nintendo lost even more ground with the N64 despite name recognition, while Sony gained that same ground despite not being priorly associated with videogames at all. Then the Gamecube hasn't sold quite well despite Nintendo being so recognized in the handheld sector. The last example proves name recognition doesn't corss over well between handhelds and home consoles.
Post by: KDR_11k on May 19, 2003, 04:13:20 AM
Post by: EggyToast on May 19, 2003, 05:48:05 AM
I think the one thing everyone's neglected about the PSP is the size. Big things just aren't popular as mobile devices. It's true in every portable market -- people want *smaller*, not necessarily more powerful. A big examples are cell-phones -- people will sacrifice more power for a smaller form factor in their cell phones. The ones that are out now are really, really small, and they keep getting smaller. Also, look at the iPod -- it's amazingly small, yet quite powerful, and despite the high price, people still want them because of their size. Why does everyone seem to want a nice new laptop? Because the newer ones are lighter and smaller than older ones, and most are starting to rival people's older PCs (since most people stop upgrading once they get to a certain point; I'd imagine very few people feel the need to upgrade a 1ghz system). And the GBA:SP has sold much better than the GBA, mostly because it's smaller and designed better. It's designed like a portable device.
The PSP looks like it's designed as a travel-mate type device -- something you plan to take with you for long trips or long plane rides, as it looks capable to not only play games but also to play movies (if you can find a way to transfer to the proprietary media, which I'm sure Sony will put some sort of stranglehold on... sigh...). None of the press released about the PSP makes it sound like a truly portable device, and look at it from the POV of an average consumer -- you're looking for a portable gaming device, and you look at the display model of the GBA:SP -- it's tiny, metallic, folds up, and really small, yet looks cool and you can see a lot of games on display behind it. Then you look at the PSP and you see a larger, bulkier unit, still looks cool and the screen looks pretty nice, but you know it won't fit in your pocket, and maybe you're just looking for a unit to play for those car rides that take 20 minutes, or when you're stuck at the laundromat for an hour, or you miss the bus and have to wait 15 minutes for the next one. One looks much more like something you'd rather whip out and play anywhere (GBA:SP), while the other looks more like something you'd play at home or on long trips (PSP).
Now, Sony *could* surprise people with a v. v. thin unit, which would solve the bulky problem, and might even help it fit into pockets better. But that would dramatically jack the price up, unless they discover some new way to manufacture TFT displays for pennies. I don't doubt that it might be a very cool portable console, but I'm rather skeptical about how it'll perform. Not to mention that if they put too many features in it, it might have the same problem the Xbox has -- lots of people buying the console, not many buying games.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on May 19, 2003, 10:58:16 AM
To compare the quality of this screen to larger 17 inch screens (widescreen models in any case)
The resolution is 1813.33332x1027.5555 so about 1813x1028
The 1028 is the same as most Flat Panel monitors so it is basically a cut down version of a 17'' flat panel.
Now lets make a rough estimate of how much it costs to manufacture a 17'' flat panel monitor. Lets just say 100-150 US dollars. About 3 3/4 a 4.5'' monitor can be made from a 17'' so the price range is about 26.66 USD - 40 USD. Even with continued technology advances, that is going to be a very expensive product.
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It's just wrong.
Post by: Cube323 on May 31, 2003, 11:06:36 AM
Seriously, I would not worry about Psp. By the time it is released, Nintendo will have sold another 50 million GBA:SP's worldwide. Plus if you follow video game news closely, you already know that Nintendo's next hand held is due in 2005, and I'm sure "Big N" will use the opportunity to show up $ony and their little Psp.
Plus why is no one mentioning the fact that the Psp is rumored to cost over $200?! Plus it's made by $ony, a company that is internationally famous for making the worst quality electronics on the market. (Cheapest labor, Cheapest Parts)
Post by: boggy b on June 08, 2003, 03:49:06 AM
I never SAID PSP was going to demolish GBA (in fact I doubt very much it will), so stop trying to twist my words.
But Nintendo need to do something about it. The last time they shrugged off a contender and said it was stupid was the PS1, and that went on to be the best-selling console ever, pushing Nintendo into second place worldwide.
Why not grow up.
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Post by: Hyper-Link on June 26, 2003, 09:15:36 AM
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like how Sony just throws this press release out there, and does not back it up with any sort of hardware. Not even a picture of the thing. I am surprised that they did'nt say this thing would produce holgraphic pictures and shoot laser beams at annoying party guests. I think this is just a Sony ploy to steal some thunder for itself during E3.
I agree fully. Sony did this type of thing b4 with the PS2 saying some features were that that weren't. If I know Nintendo and I think I do, they'll find a way to DESTROY Sony. There's another thing PSP won't have, many good GAMES!! Who has Pokemon the Number one handheld game. Who has Mega Man, who has Metroid, Zelda, Mario. The most PSP would have is probably some Final Fantasy and some Crash Bandicoot.
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I would have to agree with most posts here about the issues for a succesfull launch of this product.
1. Price point, I think the max you could charge for this thing is $200. Better systems than the GBA have come out in the past but the GBA out priced them.
2. Battery life. Spinning disk, 3D chip, backlight display, big display, all of these things add up to shorten play time.
3. Sony's position on copyright material. Think this thing will be able to play all the MP3 out there? Or any movie ever produced? Doubtfull, Sony's minidisk and MP3 players only support certified music <--read music you directly paid for. And as for video, this system seems to have 2 options, either on the disc or on the memory stick. For movies the PP would have to use the disk I would think, and how many movies do you know are printed on mini DVD? Probably only movies that Sony has rights too.
I think Sony has a lot of issues to deal with to make this any sort of success, and it sounds to me like this is some kind of dream system some Sony exec. came up with to steal some thunder from Nintendos and Xbox E3.
Also with that big old screen, and features, I don't think the batteries would last longer than an hour. Nintendo will find a way. They always have something up there sleeve. The only reason Game Cube is losing to PS2 is because they had a year and a half lead. In 2005 when GameSphere and X-Box 2 come out, PS3 will have more competition. In fact GCN 2 and Box 2 will be probably come out b4 Playstation 3. And if Nintendo made a handheld that played N64 games, it would be better than PSP. I think N64 had much better games than PSone. DK64, Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Banjo Kazooie, Golden Eye, and that's just to name a few, I still haven't mentioned The Pokemon Stadium series, Mario Party, and Kart series, And Super Smash Bros. Come on Nintendo hasn't been running this long for nothing.
Go Nintendo, show those gaming compnaies whose the boss, and with Sega's help I don't think that will be a problem.
Post by: Hyper-Link on June 26, 2003, 09:19:22 AM
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like how Sony just throws this press release out there, and does not back it up with any sort of hardware. Not even a picture of the thing. I am surprised that they did'nt say this thing would produce holgraphic pictures and shoot laser beams at annoying party guests. I think this is just a Sony ploy to steal some thunder for itself during E3.
I agree fully. Sony did this type of thing b4 with the PS2 saying some features were that that weren't. If I know Nintendo and I think I do, they'll find a way to DESTROY Sony. There's another thing PSP won't have, many good GAMES!! Who has Pokemon the Number one handheld game. Who has Mega Man, who has Metroid, Zelda, Mario. The most PSP would have is probably some Final Fantasy and some Crash Bandicoot.
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I would have to agree with most posts here about the issues for a succesfull launch of this product.
1. Price point, I think the max you could charge for this thing is $200. Better systems than the GBA have come out in the past but the GBA out priced them.
2. Battery life. Spinning disk, 3D chip, backlight display, big display, all of these things add up to shorten play time.
3. Sony's position on copyright material. Think this thing will be able to play all the MP3 out there? Or any movie ever produced? Doubtfull, Sony's minidisk and MP3 players only support certified music <--read music you directly paid for. And as for video, this system seems to have 2 options, either on the disc or on the memory stick. For movies the PP would have to use the disk I would think, and how many movies do you know are printed on mini DVD? Probably only movies that Sony has rights too.
I think Sony has a lot of issues to deal with to make this any sort of success, and it sounds to me like this is some kind of dream system some Sony exec. came up with to steal some thunder from Nintendos and Xbox E3.
Also with that big old screen, and features, I don't think the batteries would last longer than an hour. Nintendo will find a way. They always have something up there sleeve. The only reason Game Cube is losing to PS2 is because they had a year and a half lead. In 2005 when GameSphere and X-Box 2 come out, PS3 will have more competition. In fact GCN 2 and Box 2 will be probably come out b4 Playstation 3. And if Nintendo made a handheld that played N64 games, it would be better than PSP. I think N64 had much better games than PSone. DK64, Mario 64, Star Fox 64, Banjo Kazooie, Golden Eye, and that's just to name a few, I still haven't mentioned The Pokemon Stadium series, Mario Party, and Kart series, And Super Smash Bros. Come on Nintendo hasn't been running this long for nothing.
Go Nintendo, show those gaming compnaies whose the boss, and with Sega's help I don't think that will be a problem.
Post by: KDR_11k on June 27, 2003, 08:13:15 AM
Post by: Lecter on July 03, 2003, 05:20:51 PM
Nintendo has been dominating the handheld market for a long time. Just like Nintendo dominated the console market until Sony came along and used their newer cd technology and awsome games to put the 64 to rest, even though the 64 was a good console. Now people are saying "THE PSP IS TOO BIG THE SCREEN IS TOO BIG THE BATTERY LIFE IS LOW" Its Sony. Dont you think they are going to perfect their handheld so they can finish what Nintendo is dominating? They have looked to the past and see where others have failed, and thats where they will improve. They arent going to release a clunk box system that plays for 3 hours. Sony is looking to get rid of Nintendo once and for all. Sony wants to dominate the console AND handheld market, so they will perfect the system and get as many first party games as possible. With all the people that own the PS2 they will think "Hey a Playstation console on the go, cool." and of course the PSP will have GTA on it improving console sales by a ton. People will just buy the console for GTA.
But here we have Nintendo the masters of creating excellent games. Games like Pokemon, Zelda, and Mario (even though its being milked on the GBA) have kept gamers entertained for years, but Nintendo did make a mistake. They released a GBA, and since the lighting was horrible they released a GBA SP which means Ninty didn't think things through the first time. We know as a fact although most people wont admit it, most devolopers will see the PSP as a money making machine and jump right on the bandwagon.
So what does this all mean? Sony is trying to destroy Nintendo no doubt about it. But will they? I say no, but they are going to give Nintendo a run for its money. Hey everyone could be totally 100% wrong, we havent seen the system or any REAL confirmed specs so what do we know?
Post by: DRJ on July 03, 2003, 06:47:20 PM
Also the PSP will be a all in one machine, play games, video, music etc. The problem with all in one machines is that they do everything ok, but dont excel at any one thing.
The psp will probably be on the level of a palm top computer that can play games. Will it do well? only time will tell, but it will force Nintendo to create something better. If there was no Sony and no M$ we would all still be playing N64 because there would have been no incentice for Nintendo to spend money developing a new system.
I dont understand why everyone thinks that competition is bad, and also why they think the multi-billion dollar companies are going to fold because some other company is releasing a new produc.
"XBox is Dead"
"Gamecube is Dead"
"Sony will be destroyed"
Whatever...
Post by: VariantX on July 05, 2003, 12:15:56 AM
Post by: Uncle Rich AiAi on July 06, 2003, 04:46:29 AM
