Post by: muzein on February 19, 2003, 05:50:08 AM
Post by: David G on February 19, 2003, 06:06:57 AM
Post by: vudu on February 19, 2003, 07:14:12 AM
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And what does this have to do with gamecube....?? IBTL!
it has nothing to do with the gamecube. which is why it's in the 'other systems' forum.
gee, it makes sense, in a weird kinda way.
and to answer the original question, i've heard all sorts of numbers ranging up to the hundreds of millions of dollars. but i haven't heard anything that has any solid figures to back it up, so your guess is as good as mine.
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Post by: ruby_onix on February 19, 2003, 08:12:03 PM
Here's a link:
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2910097,00.html
As for some speculation, the XBox is supposed to lose about $100 per unit, and last I heard I think they were saying they were up to 8 million units sold worldwide. But console makers are supposed to make about $10 on each game sold, and the XBox game sale ratio is about 5:1, so they might make about $50 a unit on the software.
So that averages them out to losing maybe $50 (American, of course) on each XBox. Meaning $400 million in losses on the XBox so far. But that $350 million figure above was for just this year. Reportedly Microsoft is hiding other money losses inside the XBox's department. The rumor is that they're making big cash payouts to help keep a secret "well known major Japanese developer" (most likely Sega) afloat.
Post by: i_roma on February 20, 2003, 05:52:09 PM
MicroSoft's Net earning for the 12 month period ending in Dec 2002 was $9,541 Mil.
MicroSoft's Net Earning for the 12 month period ending in Dec 2001 was $6,083 Mil.
I don't think they would have a problem losing a couple of millions on the x-box if they have a slight chance to domenate the market
Plus they generate lots of money from other divisions and other investments which would make the xbox loss to them nothing 
Post by: dumdum on February 26, 2003, 06:47:00 PM
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Originally posted by: i_roma
I'm sad to say that:
MicroSoft's Net earning for the 12 month period ending in Dec 2002 was $9,541 Mil.
MicroSoft's Net Earning for the 12 month period ending in Dec 2001 was $6,083 Mil.
I don't think they would have a problem losing a couple of millions on the x-box if they have a slight chance to domenate the market
Thats the first thing he said, that he knew that, and he just wanted to know the losses on the xbox.
Well i dont think they have given out that info. But right now i think that they lost around 100 Million on the whole gaming deperment. Wich aslo includes all the PC games. And knowing the games for MS on the PC then all the losses had to come from the box and prolly its more than that. And i think this includes all the buy out and everything. Oh by the way, i belive this doesnt include the live network since they used around 2 billion dollars on that.
Post by: Grey Ninja on February 26, 2003, 06:53:05 PM
(Ken Lobb? )
Post by: oohhboy on February 26, 2003, 10:54:39 PM
Seriously though, I am not too concerned about all this as long as I am not attacked by fanboys.
Post by: dumdum on February 27, 2003, 10:13:43 AM
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Originally posted by: Grey Ninja
I think someone needs to infiltrate MS and report t the stockholders about how much of their money is being wasted.
I think that they already know that MS is "wasting" money on the box. But for some reason when MS "wastes" more money on it and then the stockholders see what was the money for they seem to support it. waird ain it
But i still dont think theyll release the info on theyll realses that particular info.
heres a site for over all losses on the gaming dep.
here
I couldnt find the one i was looking for but it should be in either nov 2002, dec 2002, or jan, feb 2003
Look for it if you like.
Post by: manunited4eva22 on March 01, 2003, 04:36:26 PM
The only real reason is to make a joke ala Hugo N. Frye of olden times.
Post by: dmcollin on March 10, 2003, 08:27:05 AM
I know in 2001 they lost $170 mil in their first three months, they were expected to lose about $750 mil by last june, and $1.1 bil by this june.
I think they have been keeping their actual loses on the xbox mum lately since most believe by the end of 2003 they could lose up to $2 bil because of the xbox live.
Personally i think it is terrible business, because i don't think that they will be able to take over sony with the next generation of consoles nor will nintendo lose since it is more finacially responsible and have their franchises which are invaluable.
Post by: Jirachi on March 13, 2003, 03:44:40 PM
