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Title: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: supermario2k on October 05, 2016, 11:47:35 AM
Alright as most of you know I really hated the motion controls. But I did like some other concepts of the Wii, especially the pointer as a replacement for light gun. That being said I have recently purchased a used Wii, I got a pair of them for $5 at a flea market so one is a Gamecube/modded virtual console, the other I will be using as a regular Wii, so I decided since I am keeping at least 1 around plus my Wii U because I am not trusting Nintendo on the virtual console, anyways I decided to give the Wii library a second chance.
So I am asking all my friends here, and those that aren't friends but more knowledgable of the library, what are some good titles that do not force you to use motion controls that you would recommend to me to buy?
To make this easier, I am not into animal crossing, pokemon, or any of the "cutesy" stuff aside from Kirby. Also no sports, cooking or anything that requires the balance board.
Please feel free to make suggestions of lesser known games, hidden gems and games that are not the obvious stuff like Mario and Zelda.
Also I own a PS2 so unless a game on Wii does something really magical, please no ports I will be getting those on PS2. I know this sounds hard but I am convinced as popular as the machine was there has to be something I am missing that I could enjoy. Stay cool everyone hope to get lost of fun suggestions.
Also forget what I said about the cutesy stuff just no Pokemon or Animal Crossing, feel free to make any suggestions you want I will sort them out myself. Thanks all.
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Post by: ejamer on October 05, 2016, 12:47:35 PM
Hmm... I will try to avoid games with PS2 ports, but won't make any promises (since I don't own a PS2 and might not be aware that a port was available).
These games come to mind as decent titles that (I think) don't require any special Wii controls:
* A Boy and his Blob * Batman The Brave and the Bold * Baroque (only if you are a bit masochistic and like old and ugly rogue-likes; I do) * Final Fantasy Chocobo's Dungeon * Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn * Geometry Wars Galaxies (classic controller is better than pointer controls in my opinion) * Klonoa * Muramasa The Demon Blade * King of Fighters Collection * Punch-Out!! (motion controls optional, although I think they actually improve the game) * Samurai Shodown Anthology * Shiren the Wanderer * Tatsunoko vs Capcom * Xenoblade Chronicles
These games require some motion/pointer controls, but I'd suggest them anyway:
* Bit.Trip Complete - rotating the controller to move your paddle up or down the screen is much better than using an analog stick * BlastWorks - pointer required if you want to build your own levels; be sure to unlock the other Kenta Cho games on disc * Dawn of Discovery - uses pointer controls as a substitute for a mouse * Pikmin New Play Control (and Pikmin 2) - uses pointer controls for where you want to throw pikmin
Some light-gun style games that I really enjoyed:
* Dead Space Extraction * Ghost Squad * House of the Dead (2 & 3 Return, and Overkill) * Resident Evil (Umbrella Collection, and Darkside Chronicles)
If you are dead set against avoiding any motion, and end up skipping gems like Wario Land Shake It! or the Super Mario Galaxy games because of that limitation, then you are missing out.
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Post by: Khushrenada on October 05, 2016, 01:13:29 PM
Well, I don't have a lot of Wii experience like some others as my gaming time dried up for a few years during this period before I started getting back into it again. I'm just going to list some things that I found as very good even if some are obvious choices.
Fortune Street is one of my favorite experiences with the Wii but it's best played with other people. If single player is going to be the only way you can really play it, you may not get the best experience from it. I bought this game and opened it one night with some friends over as we dove in and learned it on the fly. We all liked it and played it again another night. This inspired one couple playing it to get the game themselves. They played it with a relative and his wife who also liked the game and bought a copy. Thus began a period of a lot of Fortune Street sessions for a few months. It was quite the time as we were all obsessing over this game. I thought it was better than the Mario Parties released for the Wii and one of the best multiplayer experiences.
Kirby Epic Yarn rocked my world and was a truly enjoyable game that helped reignite my interest in video games. There's not a lot of challenge to the game but it was big on charm with the designers trying to delight with its ideas instead. I recommend it to everyone. On the subject of Kirby, Return to Dreamland is also a great game. Ever since Superstar Ultra on the DS, Kirby is having a renaissance of sorts and you can't go wrong with any Kirby game that has been released since that game. They are all worth playing.
I enjoyed Rock Band and Guitar Hero on the Wii but you seem to indicate you'd want to get a port like that on another system.
Mario Galaxy 2 is absolutely worth playing. I didn't like Galaxy 1 and after an abysmal opening with the most phoned in story Nintendo has ever done, I expected Galaxy 2 to be a slog but after Yoshi is introduced, the game took off and I was won over from start to end. One of the all-time best Mario games made. The motion control stuff didn't bother me at all like it could in Galaxy 1. I've tried to figure out why this game works so much better but I've yet to come up with anything definitive. It just does. On the subject of Mario, I found NSMB Wii to be a top-tier Mario platformer and is absolutely worth playing also.
And now some games that I have little to no experience with but they've often been highly recommended for the Wii library: Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Little King's Story and Wario Land: Shake it, Excitebots and Rayman Origins. As a Sega fan, you may be interested in Samba de Amiga. I forget where critical consensus is on that game but I believe it was more highly regarded than the Nights sequel. And I'll throw out the names of Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2, Trauma Team, World of Goo and Rhythm Heaven Fever as a reminder to some of the varied and different experiences you can find on the console.
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Post by: ejamer on October 05, 2016, 02:05:17 PM
... And now some games that I have little to no experience with but they've often been highly recommended for the Wii library: Xenoblade Chronicles, The Last Story, Little King's Story and Wario Land: Shake it, Excitebots and Rayman Origins. As a Sega fan, you may be interested in Samba de Amiga. I forget where critical consensus is on that game but I believe it was more highly regarded than the Nights sequel. And I'll throw out the names of Metroid Prime 3, Battalion Wars 2, Trauma Team, World of Goo and Rhythm Heaven Fever as a reminder to some of the varied and different experiences you can find on the console.
Some thoughts:
Little King's Story - great suggestion that I totally forgot about; doesn't even using the pointer controls that Pikmin remakes did (although might have been better off if it did use them) Excitebots - plenty of motion required; fun racing game, but not recommend for this thread Rayman Origins - didn't this include motion controls? I loved the game, but thought it involved waggling at some point... maybe I'm dreaming? Samba de Amigo - honestly, better to skip this one; requires motion controls, and they are implemented very poorly (I own it anyway because I love the idea...) Trauma Team - lots of pointer controls, maybe some motion too, but a great series of games World of Goo - fantastic game that uses pointer controls; a shame it didn't get a retail release and gets locked to the hardware you download onto
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Order.RSS on October 05, 2016, 04:00:01 PM
Obviously Mario Kart Wii and Smash Bros. Brawl are good options, both support a host of controllers including Gamecube so motion is entirely optional.
Will also second Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn, that has GameCube controller support too, but be warned that 1.) it's a sequel to a GC title, 2.) it's incredibly hard at the beginning, and 3.) it goes for astronomically high prices. Did anyone try that Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World game? I believe it didn't review as well as the GameCube one before, but might still be worth a shot? I've also never tried Super Paper Mario but I don't think that uses motion either.
Sin & Punishment: Star Successor is an excellent on-rails shooter with crazy bossfights. Can be played using GameCube and Classic controllers, although pointer+nunchuck works best since it's a shooter.
If you don't mind some more motion controls after all: - Metroid Prime 3 Corruption is the 2nd best Prime game. - Donkey Kong Country Returns contains some waggling but really rocks. - Boom Blox! and it's sequel Boom Blox Smash Party are super fun reverse Jenga games. Fling **** at structures to make them fall down. - Pandora's Tower uses motion heavily but is a cool action game.
As a Sega fan, you may be interested in Samba de Amiga. I forget where critical consensus is on that game but I believe it was more highly regarded than the Nights sequel.
Neither of these are very good unfortunately. :( Samba de Amigo was better on DreamCast and the NiGHTS sequel, while very likable, just falls short in almost every regard. Although it does support GameCube and Classic controllers.
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 05, 2016, 07:48:42 PM
Choking somebody to death in Godfather: Black Hand Edition with the wiimote and nunchuk is still the most visceral thing I have ever done in a video game. It awoke something inside me...
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Post by: Ian Sane on October 06, 2016, 02:02:01 AM
For Wii games that don't use motion controls my favourites would have been Xenoblade, SSB Brawl and the Guitar Hero games. But Brawl is inferior to both Melee and the Wii U game so I don't really see much point of getting it in 2016 unless you really want to play as Solid Snake. The Guitar Hero games aren't exclusives so you certainly don't need the Wii versions. Xenoblade is a masterpiece but also really expensive to get for the Wii so the Wii U eShop version is the better bet. I didn't get that far into The Last Story so I don't really think I can give a fair assessment of it but it uses the Classic Controller.
The Super Mario Galaxy games have some motion control and frankly they're worse for having them. There were more than a couple times I died because the spin move assigned to a shake didn't go off when expected. Each game also has at least one level where you play as some animal that is controlled entirely by tilting and the controls are outright broken. But the games are so good that I feel any videogame enthusiast would be doing themselves a disservice by not playing them. I was willing to fight through the little bits of motion controls because they're just so damn good and fun to play. They're the peak of 3D platforming.
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Post by: supermario2k on October 07, 2016, 09:22:54 AM
I should have started with the Wii games I already have.
Super Paper Mario Wii Play Conduit Galaxies 1 & 2 Brawl Punch Out Metroid Prime Trilogy Twilight Princess Xenoblade Chronicles Umbrella Chronicles
I am open to Wii games that are also on PS2 if the Wii versions is obviously better and supports Classic Controller Pro only, not classic, not Game Cube, otherwise I'll stick to the PS2 versions in most instances or get PS3 Hd remakes if they have em.
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Post by: supermario2k on October 07, 2016, 10:42:03 AM
Reply instead of another edit for ease of reading.
Here are the suggestions so far. A Boy and his Blob- Sorry nope, I am well aware of this game tried it didn't care for it.
Batman The Brave and the Bold- I might be curious, is this an exclusive, what type of gameplay is it? Is it based on a cartoon, a comic, or something else?
Baroque (only if you are a bit masochistic and like old and ugly rogue-likes; I do) I am curious, tell me more.
Final Fantasy Chocobo's Dungeon Crystal Chronicles is on my to-get list, I already have the Wii Ware My Life as a King, I am avoiding Wii Ware games altogether from now on. So my question is what type of game is this?
Fire Emblem Radiant Dawn I had the Game Cube game so this is on my to get list already, glad it still gets some good love.
Geometry Wars Galaxies (classic controller is better than pointer controls in my opinion) Pass, not interested in this sorry.
Klonoa This one I am curious, I have heard the name before but not sure what it is. Might check it out thanks. Muramasa The Demon Blade What type of game is this, from the name it sounds like a dungeon crawler or a hack n slash.
King of Fighters Collection
Already top of my list, but I am not sure I am getting it for Wii, I am pretty sure its not exclusive and fighting games on Wii are not good in my experience.
Punch-Out!! (motion controls optional, although I think they actually improve the game) I already have this one on Wii U so good suggestion.
Samurai Shodown Anthology Another one that is top of my to get list but not sure Id get it for Wii.
Shiren the Wanderer Tell me more this sounds intriguing.
Tatsunoko vs Capcom If exclusive then sure, if its on PS3 or PS2 then I would need a real incentive to get it on Wii.
Xenoblade Chronicles Got this day one on Wii U digital, for obvious reasons but its still a good game.
Dead Space Extraction This one is on my list of maybes
Ghost Squad Sounds interesting, is it a shooter or an action game?
House of the Dead (2 & 3 Return, and Overkill) They have this for $8 at my local game shop, I will be getting it the very next time I am in town.
Resident Evil (Umbrella Collection, and Darkside Chronicles)
Already got this one early on.
Fortune Street I saw a Youtube video of this, one of the reasons I decided to give Wii a second chance. Also I am into party games but not the really obvious crap. I might check out some more they could be fun.
Kirby Return to Dreamland Yes, on my list but too much money for what it is. Will keep looking for a second hand copy at a yard sale or something where they don't want to price gauge.
Excitebots I have heard this was good so I might check it out.
Rayman Origins I love platformers, and I enjoy the Rayman and Sonic games so those are all on my list.
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of the New World I already have the vastly superior PS3 version so thanks for the suggestion though.
Pandora's Tower I have heard this was good, would like to know more about it so its on the list.
Thanks guys. I know I come off as rude sometimes but I don't mean to be. Not always.
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Post by: ejamer on October 07, 2016, 11:54:58 AM
I'm not going to dive too far into descriptions or really pitching the games listed, because it doesn't seem worthwhile when online reviews and/or youtube videos will help you get a better sense of each game than I could provide.
Some added suggestions: * Fishing Resort * Mario Strikers Charged * Shaun White Snowboarding series (must use balance board to be good) * Rabbids Go Home * Endless Ocean series * The Sky Crawlers
Batman The Brave and the Bold- I might be curious, is this an exclusive, what type of gameplay is it? Is it based on a cartoon, a comic, or something else?
Based on the cartoon series of the same name. This Wii exclusive is a side scrolling action/beat 'em up with a light-hearted take of the Batman universe where he teams up with lesser-known heroes. A bit short and easy, but enjoyable and nice production values from WayForward.
There is also a DS game that is a distinct but similar game. If you own both, there is some minor linking/unlocking possible.
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Baroque (only if you are a bit masochistic and like old and ugly rogue-likes; I do) I am curious, tell me more.
The world has ended, and suffering for your sins is the new normal. You have a chance to make amends though. You must die many times to progress the story, and trying to understand what's happening will be a long and slow process. It's quite interesting if you stick with things long enough; the game clearly isn't for everyone. If you enjoy darker stories that require effort on your end to understand, this game can be quite appealing.
PS2 version available; from what I can gather the biggest difference is the soundtrack.
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Final Fantasy Chocobo's Dungeon Crystal Chronicles is on my to-get list, I already have the Wii Ware My Life as a King, I am avoiding Wii Ware games altogether from now on. So my question is what type of game is this?
This is another rogue-like (a genre the Wii did surprisingly well) instead of a true RPG. It uses a super cute Chocobo theme from Final Fantasy, but is quite different from normal games in that series - more like a Mystery Dungeon title if that means anything to you. Pretty easy as rogue-likes go.
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Klonoa This one I am curious, I have heard the name before but not sure what it is. Might check it out thanks.
It's a remake of an old PS1 platformer by the same name. The Wii game is much improved from the original, although the PS1 title still plays well if you'd rather go for the original.
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Muramasa The Demon Blade What type of game is this, from the name it sounds like a dungeon crawler or a hack n slash.
A beautiful, 2D hack-n-slash from Vanillaware (they also did stuff like Odin Sphere and Dragon's Crown; this is in the same vein).
There is a Vita version also, which might be better if you have the system and/or PSTV.
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Shiren the Wanderer Tell me more this sounds intriguing.
Shiren is a long-standing series in the rogue-like genre. This entry is pretty forgiving, and a solid game. Of the three rogue-like titles I've listed, it sits nicely in the middle. Chocobo is more of a cutesy entry level game (still quite good though - I'm not using those terms as a knock on it) while Baroque is quote obtuse and old-school.
Apparently this Atlus-published game is getting more expensive now, which is unfortunate. Note that I haven't checked myself because I already own the game; only mentioning because I've recently seen people in another forum discuss rising prices.
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Tatsunoko vs Capcom If exclusive then sure, if its on PS3 or PS2 then I would need a real incentive to get it on Wii.
Exclusive to Wii. It's a solid "vs" game, but not the best one. Many people don't know any of the Tatsunoko characters which might affect your enjoyment, and it's probably less technical than the latest Marvel vs Capcom games.
Wii didn't have any great fightsticks that I tried, which is a shame because I find these fighting games benefit greatly from having something better than a normal controller. But the sticks released with this game are ok and easy enough to upgrade if that's your thing.
If you get this, be sure to unlock the Ultimate All-Shooters bonus game - it's not a big deal but is a nice little bonus feature.
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Dead Space Extraction This one is on my list of maybes
If you like light gun games, this comes very highly recommended. They did a great job of taking that genre and giving it a fairly lengthy and interesting storyline. It's usually pretty cheap too, isn't it? (At least it was.)
This had a PS3 version that might be better if it's still available. Not sure if that was physical or digital only. I haven't tried using the PS3 Move controllers for light gun games though, so take this with a grain of salt.
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Ghost Squad Sounds interesting, is it a shooter or an action game?
On-rails shooter, port of the SEGA arcade game. Plays similar to the House of the Dead or Resident Evil light gun games but with an intentionally over-the-top anti-terrorist theme.
The biggest downside is that there are only three short missions... but each mission has multiple branching paths and as you play you'll unlock new pathways, new weapons, character costumes, etc. Multiple play throughs remain enjoyable because of that.
(If you like this style of game, you should also keep an out for Arcade Hits Pack: Gunblade NY & LA Machineguns. It's a direct port of those two old SEGA arcade light gun games, and is pretty decent.. although I personally enjoy Ghost Squad more.)
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Post by: Mop it up on October 07, 2016, 04:26:30 PM
Most people already said what I would say, but one thing I don't see yet is Rune Factory. There are two on Wii, Rune Factory Frontier and Rune Factory Tides of Destiny. Frontier is exclusive to Wii, however Tides of Destiny is also on PS3 and I believe the only difference between the two is graphics. They are like a mix of Harvest Moon and a dungeon crawler, you still have a farm and grow crops and befriend the townsfolk and all that, but then there are also dungeons to explore, various skills to level up, and lots of equipment to craft from the materials you find. Tides of Destiny simplifies the farming a lot, and focuses more on the dungeoning part of it; I didn't personally like that change but some may appreciate it depending on what they like. Both are good games though, but I prefer Frontier meself. One of my fave Wii games.
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Post by: supermario2k on October 10, 2016, 04:48:59 PM
Hmm, either this confirms what I already feared, there aren't as many quality games as I thought, or I am asking the wrong people because it seems like I keep getting the same responses no matter who I ask. I think I am going to maybe broaden my search to include PS2 ports but only if the Wii versions is truly superior, which I assume it should be, but it also has to be cheaper. Thanks guys I have compiled a good list to get me started.
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Post by: Phil on October 10, 2016, 07:15:33 PM
I really enjoy the Wii library. I have about 75 games, I think, and sold the ones I didn't enjoy or found massive disappointment in. I think you have a good list of games to start out with, supermario2k. I'm interested in reading your thoughts on what you play! :D
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 10, 2016, 07:38:31 PM
Hmm, either this confirms what I already feared, there aren't as many quality games as I thought, or I am asking the wrong people because it seems like I keep getting the same responses no matter who I ask. I think I am going to maybe broaden my search to include PS2 ports but only if the Wii versions is truly superior, which I assume it should be, but it also has to be cheaper. Thanks guys I have compiled a good list to get me started.
Not wanting motion control games is limiting your scope. No More Heroes 2 supports the classic controller.
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Post by: supermario2k on October 10, 2016, 09:39:30 PM
Well what I said was I want games that do not force motion controls, if a game supports the classic or pro controller then yes I am open. I am also open to motion controls to some degree but not a game like Red Steel or Wii Sports or anything like that.
I will be checking many of these out soon.
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Post by: Evan_B on October 12, 2016, 12:09:48 AM
Well, here's my lowdown on Pandora's Tower: The best way I can describe the game is a 3D Castlevania-ish ARPG with some time-pressure and dating sim elements. You explore 12 towers with vastly different puzzles within, which also evokes feelings of Zelda, and tackle a boss at the end of each that you need to "solve" and defeat. But, you need to do this before the female protagonist turns into a monster. Don't worry, though, you can head back to the tower and reduce her curse again. While the idea of backtracking might disappoint you, as you become more accustomed to the design of the towers you'll start to find shortcuts that you can use to reduce your travel time and keep your exploration as lucrative as possible. It has a gruesome, macabre feeling but also a lot of charm, and I think that, as a member of the Wii JRPG trio, you can't go wrong with it. It's a vastly different game from Xenoblade and The Last Story (which I also HIGHLY recommend).
It actually uses very limited use of motion control- one or two boss fights have specific motion inputs and in those cases, it's a 4-direction input. There's pointer usage in the actual meat of the game, but it's for zooming in on distant objects and enemies and actually enhances the game.
I would also recommend: Sonic Colors- the last good Sonic game, and the last Sonic game that was good since Sonic and Knuckles. Sin and Punishment- if you like cabal shooters and you think Star Fox is overrated and easy, strap yourself in for a truly great action game. Sengoku Basara- if you want a Musou game that's more ridiculous than Samurai Warriors but set in the same time period, this is for you! The Last Story- The last good Final Fantasy game.
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Post by: Phil on October 12, 2016, 02:12:33 AM
You didn't like Sonic Generations, Evan?
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Post by: Lemonade on October 12, 2016, 03:44:47 AM
I rarely hear people talk about it, so its probably good to mention it here. Aragorn's Quest I played through it last year for the first time and thought it was really good. I cant remember anything specific right now, but I recommend checking it out.
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Post by: lolmonade on October 12, 2016, 01:22:20 PM
I agree with Shyguy, the qualifier that it can't have "forced" motion control in it is a funnel that'll end up creating a bottleneck in what games you'll have available to you. Like it or not, Nintendo must have had an edict during the Wii console that almost all games coming from them had to integrate motion control in one way or another. Some games it's really no big deal, and others it's aggravating.
I'll put my personal list of recommendations based on what I've played that I think is worth experiencing. Bear in mind, some of these are available on other platforms. I'll keep out a few I think are more controversial that lean more heavily on motion control, as I get the feeling you'd veer more into the NO side of that argument.
No Motion Control (or entirely optional):
Castlevania: The Adventure Rebirth (Wiiware) Cartoon Network: Punch Time Explosion XL Punch out - Motion controls are only optional. Super Smash Bros Brawl
Little Motion Control (minor inputs to gameplay):
Kirby's Epic Yarn Mario Strikers Charged New Super Mario Bros Wii Super Mario Galaxy Super Mario Galaxy 2
Motion Control Centered:
World of Goo (Wiiware) House of the Dead 2 & 3 Returns Resident Evil 4 Wii Sports Resort
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Post by: supermario2k on October 12, 2016, 03:09:12 PM
Then if its forced or required I will just skip most of those games. Or throw the piece of **** in the garbage and buy a real Game Cube. Its no skin off my back, I thought I would see if there were at least a few games worth playing on the console but if that is indeed not the case no big deal I already hate a very strong hatred for it anyways.
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Post by: pokepal148 on October 12, 2016, 03:18:43 PM
DKCR has classic controller support enabled via some homebrew hacks I believe.
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Post by: lolmonade on October 12, 2016, 03:24:41 PM
Then if its forced or required I will just skip most of those games. Or throw the piece of **** in the garbage and buy a real Game Cube. Its no skin off my back, I thought I would see if there were at least a few games worth playing on the console but if that is indeed not the case no big deal I already hate a very strong hatred for it anyways.
Out of curiosity, what is the reason for your animosity towards motion control gaming?
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Post by: supermario2k on October 12, 2016, 03:50:35 PM
I didn't like it. I gave it a shot, it was the complete opposite of fun, it was very not fun. I get why some people like them but I never did. I know I am not alone in this view but it sucks because it is the first Nintendo console where the barrier to entry is the controller and its a shitty excuse. I don't mind games that use them sparingly or only use like the pointer optionally but I hate games where I have to be holding the thing up and waving it around or dancing around like a jack ass. I just didn't care for it.
Part of it was principal, I just grew to hate them and the more they were forced upon me the more I resisted, part of it was I suck at motion control games and its like sports I don't play sports because I am not good and I don't want to have to get good at sports to be good at video games, that is partly why I play video games.
Beyond that, its just preference. I prefer to play with a normal controller. It isn't just the waggle I hate, the despise the whole stupid remote, so I prefer games that do not force me to use it, I wish I could use the Wii or even Wii U without it, but there is currently no option to even do that, I can't even access my own Virtual Console purchases without the fucking thing, which when I start thinking about it pisses me off.
I could go on but as the thread title suggests, it was probably crazy for me to even try to find Wii games that wouldn't piss me off.
The express to each his own means nothing though as I am sure someone will defend motion controls and call me more names as they always do.
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Post by: Wah on October 12, 2016, 08:40:21 PM
MatematemateMATE! The donkey Kong bongo drums are the best thing to grace this planet! Try those out!
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Post by: supermario2k on October 13, 2016, 10:52:56 AM
I am slowly softening up I guess but I need to try a game that doesn't ask me to dance around like an idiot first. Maybe I just hated Wii Sports for turning my parents into gamers, I had to fight them for control of my Wii. I mean yeah I don't live with them anymore but it was a brutal time.
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Post by: lolmonade on October 13, 2016, 11:00:31 AM
If you like 3D Mario at all, you owe it to yourself to start with Super Mario Galaxy, in my opinion. There's only two motion inputs
- pointing at screen to collect some on-screen currency. - flicking the remote for a spin move that can damage enemies (optional move for the most part, I barely remember even using it).
I think given how cheap a used Wii is now, I bet you got it cheap enough to where there are enough games to get that make it a good enough value proposition. I also think you've been given a pretty good summary from folks here of what might be the cream of the crop for the system. More curious now about what your feedback will be on some of the games you try.
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Post by: ShyGuy on October 13, 2016, 08:02:55 PM
If you like 3D Mario at all, you owe it to yourself to start with Super Mario Galaxy, in my opinion. There's only two motion inputs
- pointing at screen to collect some on-screen currency. - flicking the remote for a spin move that can damage enemies (optional move for the most part, I barely remember even using it).
I think given how cheap a used Wii is now, I bet you got it cheap enough to where there are enough games to get that make it a good enough value proposition. I also think you've been given a pretty good summary from folks here of what might be the cream of the crop for the system. More curious now about what your feedback will be on some of the games you try.
There are like two balancing levels as well, aren't there? when you're riding something in the water on a race course?
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: supermario2k on October 13, 2016, 09:52:15 PM
Please read the post with the list of games I have again, I already have the Galaxy games. I just say that because everyone keep suggesting them like I don't already know they exist.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Phil on October 14, 2016, 01:28:27 AM
Did anyone recommend Super Mario Galaxy yet?
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: ejamer on October 14, 2016, 07:38:09 AM
Please read the post with the list of games I have again, I already have the Galaxy games. I just say that because everyone keep suggesting them like I don't already know they exist.
No. :D
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Mop it up on October 14, 2016, 06:16:35 PM
I'm going to go against the grain and say get New Super Mario Bros. Wii instead. I never hear anyone talk about this game, it's a bit of a hidden gem.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Khushrenada on October 14, 2016, 07:40:29 PM
If you're interested in a Mario game for the Wii, I have to say that Super Mario Galaxy 2 is really good and I greatly recommend it.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Wah on October 14, 2016, 08:58:33 PM
Please read the post with the list of games I have again, I already have the Galaxy games. I just say that because everyone keep suggesting them like I don't already know they exist.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: supermario2k on October 14, 2016, 10:38:23 PM
I compiled a good list from the suggestions thanks guys.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: ShyGuy on October 15, 2016, 02:41:35 AM
Play some, give us a verdict!
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: Phil on October 15, 2016, 08:02:56 PM
Please read the post with the list of games I have again, I already have the Galaxy games. I just say that because everyone keep suggesting them like I don't already know they exist.
No. :D
I don't know about ejamer, but Phil here was taking the proverbial piss!
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: lolmonade on October 17, 2016, 08:22:47 AM
I'm going to go against the grain and say get New Super Mario Bros. Wii instead. I never hear anyone talk about this game, it's a bit of a hidden gem.
I agree with this, except if he already has New Super Mario Bros U. That game does everything better than the Wii version, IMO.
Title: Re: The crazy continues...Wii discussion please keep it civil.
Post by: supermario2k on October 17, 2016, 11:32:21 AM
Yeah have both Wii U New SMB games and yes I will get the other one eventually it's a top priority but it's $30, I can't pay that much for a video game right now. I mean I could but I won't.
I will be starting with Wii pointer/light gun games. I figure they are probably the most in line with my gameplay style. I will also be keeping an eye out for as many retro compilations as I can find. From there I will go down the list one game at a time buying the cheapest ones I come across first, or the 1st party games that I have already on my list of to-get. I have managed my expectations accordingly, I am suspecting that I will find a handful of fun games to enjoy, the rest I will probably just ignore or get elsewhere.
