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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #25 on: December 02, 2015, 11:31:46 PM »
Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

Except that it takes years to develop new hardware. It's too late to change directions from what Iwata set in motion. Contracts have been signed. Orders have been made. NX can change on the software side, but the general concept has to have been locked by now.

Not to mention that whatever the NX plans are they're going to be in deep sync with the mobile/account system that Iwata spent his last years hammering out.

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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #26 on: December 03, 2015, 01:33:35 AM »
Except quoting Iwata means squat, the man is worm food, his opinions are no longer valid. Also There have been ample evidence surfacing that they could be working on either a hybrid, or some other type of unified console. The Wii U was almost that anyways and it is the ONE thing Nintendo can do in this current market to regain true relevance.

The Board of Directors at Nintendo is mostly filled with many of Iwata's longtime friends who shared very similar opinions to him so everything Iwata said and believed is still very valid at the company.  Plus like broodwar and MagicCow64 already said, the hardware and plans for the system have already been approved and work with other outside tech partners have started long before he even died.  Even if the new president is against what the NX is which we have no evidence he is, he can't change it since it's already too far in development and even if he tried, the Board would more then likely overrule such a decision since they aren't allowing someone to destroy Iwata's final decisions, especially with his right and left hand, Miyamoto and Takeda still holding a lot of power on that board as well.
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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #27 on: December 03, 2015, 07:01:36 AM »
Kimishima is also on record stating that there won't be any changes to the basic strategy set up by Iwata. As others have stated, he can't push any major changes because Nintendo's short term course is set and he'd be outvoted anyway. Additionally, he was a stability hire. Nintendo wanted a president who would carry on Iwata's plans which were really the collective board of directors' plans. Isn't Kimishima only officially elected for one year? He may be kept on past that term. Point being, Nintendo wanted a steady hand to launch NX. It isn't making any drastic changes at the eleventh hour.

Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #28 on: December 03, 2015, 11:04:43 AM »
corporate name dropping aside, nothing you said disproves that this could be a single machine in two form factors or two interconnected machines. There is nothing that suggests this is the same handheld-console format they have stuck with, the Wii U is indicative of the fact they are trying to tie their mobile and console divisions, is it so hard to imagine a Wii U  like console that lets the gamepad detach and be used as a mobile device? Or that they release two versions of the game but you only have to buy just one, I never said it had to be a TRUE hybrid, or whatever that even means, but that if it combines console and mobile gaming it will be huge, and EVERYTHING suggests that it does that, YOU guys are the ones throwing out the word hybrid as if that is the ONLY way to marry the two which it is not. This is GOING to be ONE thing, they have gone on record saying as such, we do not know if it will be JUST a console and handheld is sold in same package, if it is a tablet, or if it is something else or if its just cross-buy for every game we don't know YOU don't know I don't know nobody knows.



BUT it is most certainly NOT just a handheld launching this year whatever it is WILL replace Wii U that much is all but certain.
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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #29 on: December 03, 2015, 12:35:55 PM »
Come on dude, NX will be the OS that will run both the next handheld and home console for Nintendo. Both the Wii U and 3DS will get their own unique successors. They'll just both be running the same NX operating system. It's not that complicated.
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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #30 on: December 03, 2015, 01:59:58 PM »
Nintendo will have one OS for two platforms and then they'll make largely the same games for both... which is the stupid mistake that all their handheld competitors have made that Nintendo very cleverly avoided this whole time.  So due to the redundancy one of the platforms will not sell to expectations.  Best case scenario - the handheld thrives in the East and the console in the West.  Unfortunately I can see the console flopping in the West as well as Nintendo has really destroyed consumer trust in their consoles and if the two platforms are virtually identical people might go with the more "proven" handheld.

Seriously the big complaint about the Vita is that so many of it's games are just PS3 games so why bother if you already have a PS3?  Being able to play on the go would be nice but that only works with cross-buy... and if Nintendo offers cross-buy then they lose the ability to sell you two games which is the whole reason you figure they're sticking to two platforms in the first place.  I get this nervous feeling that Nintendo has a naïve idea that they can keep selling two games and only have to make half the games with a common OS.  That's nuts.  People will buy both Mario Kart 7 on the 3DS and Mario Kart 8 on the Wii U but they're wouldn't be so enthusiastic if it was the same game on both.  The fact that the content is unique is the whole reason that Nintendo has been able to get their fans to support two platforms for so long.

They're probably looking at SSB4 as the blueprint but there are other factors in that game's success.  First of all the 3DS userbase is way bigger than the Wii U's so that played a part in the "inferior" version selling well.  In regards to people actually buying both games, they cleverly released the 3DS one first so that the "better" version would come later.  They were relying on the those that owned both platforms to not have the patience to wait for the Wii U version.  Nintendo's goal should be to not have such a difference in userbase size between the handheld and console and the "they can't wait for the console version" trick is only going to work for a little bit until everyone catches on.  Also that kills any evergreen sales for the handheld version as few would want it once the console version came out.

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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #31 on: December 03, 2015, 02:41:40 PM »
Insensitive comments about Iwata aside, I think Nintendo is at a point right now where both its current products are losing momentum and they'll need a replacement. Having recently a singular division for console and handheld development, it makes sense that they're trying to make whatever comes next as integrated in both departments as possible. Like I said, I see it as a hybrid that will have a separate handheld and console release. Nintendo wants that, and they'll make sure that neither gets the "superior" moniker, though they'll likely run on the same OS and be optimized for sharing things in many ways.
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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #32 on: December 03, 2015, 05:50:10 PM »
it sounds like the NX isn't going be another home console, Nintendo keeps saying it's something "new" so I'm still thinking it's going be VR enable. 

They do have holograms projects in the works but so far those seem a bit steep in pricing and they seem to only offer one color :().  Maybe another 10 years before we get an hologram projector in our living rooms.

Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #33 on: December 07, 2015, 11:51:58 AM »
They just revealed a patent for a detachable computing device. You all can live in denial all you want NX is going to be unified machine, handheld and console, all signs point to that being the case. It makes sense they would have been so vehemently against it vocally they were trying to cover up their plans. makes sense to me, so whatever. Even if its not  full on hybrid they will be connected and whatever is coming next year is NOT going to be the handheld. That is all I am saying you can believe whatever you want.
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Re: Rumor: 10-12 Million Units Of New Hardware From Nintendo Next Year
« Reply #34 on: December 07, 2015, 02:34:40 PM »
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/02/feature_the_weird_and_wonderful_world_of_nintendo_patents

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