Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: BeautifulShy on July 28, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
Title: Street Fighter 4 should come to Wii.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 28, 2008, 06:43:31 PM
Http://www.siliconera.com/2008/07/28/the-dimps-and-capcom-connection-discussed-in-our-street-fighter-iv-interview/ Here is the quote. Q.Right now we know Street Fighter 4 will come out to 3 home platforms, but have you thought about the Wii at all? A:The more people that ask about it, the more likely we are to move in that direction. The very existence of SF4 was based on people asking about it for so long. If we get alot of requests it will be something we will think about. It might be hard to reproduce the graphics exactly as they are,but the gameplay should be intact. It's something we can think about. Q: Heres a thought. You know how Capcom is reviving Megaman 9? Maybe you can use sprites like the old Street Fighter games and have a special Wii version. A: Maybe we can do some kind of collaboration with HD remix or something. We'll have to think about that one.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 28, 2008, 06:46:10 PM
dammit maxi at least insert a quote from the article so the lazy poster can add to the topic without reading an entire article!
*grumbles/reads article*
i'll comment when i'm done... see now i wasted this perfectly good post with nothing to add to the topic at hand!
edit for the lazy:
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Right now we know Street Fighter IV will come out on three home platforms, but have you thought about the Wii at all?
The more people that ask about it, the more likely we are to move in that direction. The very existence of Street Fighter IV was based on people asking about it for so long. If we get a lot of requests it will be something we will think about. It might be difficult to reproduce the graphics exactly as they are, but the gameplay should be completely intact. It’s something we can think about.
Here’s a thought. You know how Capcom is reviving Mega Man 9? Maybe you can use sprites like in the old Street Fighter games and have a special Wii version.
Maybe we can do some kind of collaboration with the HD remix or something. We’ll have to think about that one.
hmm something tells me online petitions still won't get this or any other street fighter game on Wii unless its a street fighter FPS starring Jean Claude Van Damme as Guile
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Post by: Morari on July 28, 2008, 07:08:49 PM
I think the title is supposed to be "Street Fighter 4 SHOULD Come to the Wii"! In which case, yes, it should. Street Fighter 2 (in one of its various incarnations) is still a great example of the fighting genre!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 28, 2008, 07:10:14 PM
Street Fighter 4 could drop dead.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on July 28, 2008, 07:37:56 PM
EasyCure we never know unless we try. I suggest we e-mail and go over to the Capcom forums and let them know that way. I also noticed that we got people that use photoshop around here we could find pictures of SF4 and add something like "for Wii" or we could draw about SF4 and send it to Capcom. Morai I changed the title. Pro we will see who drops dead when I brawl later tonight.
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Post by: EasyCure on July 28, 2008, 08:17:38 PM
even if they announced something for wii the "hardcore" nintendo fans would probably tear it apart and not buy it anyway.
Title: Re: Street Fighter 4 should come to Wii.
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 28, 2008, 08:24:01 PM
Would YOU buy the game if it came out?
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Post by: EasyCure on July 28, 2008, 10:13:26 PM
probably not, havent been into SF since SFII: Turbo... ok so thats the only SF i ever liked. Never got into the rest. They went from adding more characters to adding insane combos that i just didnt find fun.
If somehow they did something that really WOWed me, i'd think about it.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 29, 2008, 01:27:30 AM
I personally got out of the street fighter series when 3rd strike came out, it made me discover the Guilty Gear series which is one of the best 2D fighting series ever.
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Post by: Mesu on August 01, 2008, 09:43:55 PM
I would buy it. I have Capcom vs SNK 2 for the Gamecube and Super Street Fighter 2 on the Virtual console.
If they do sell that much it will be because there is a ton of former SF2 fans still interested. I think a significant portion of old SF2 fans own a Wii.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 01, 2008, 10:00:24 PM
It'd better have guns like the new Chun Li movie.
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Post by: NWR_Lindy on August 01, 2008, 11:50:41 PM
Hell no, I'd buy it for 360 or PS3 so I could get the non-gimped version with proper online play.
Edit: Okay, I know that sounded bitter.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on August 02, 2008, 12:22:43 AM
You know I would love if they took the moves and characters of Street Fighter 4 and did the HD 2D treatment of it if they thought they couldn't pull of the 3D graphics correctly...like they suggested with the HD remix thing.
Actually, I think it would be pretty amazing if they did a 8 Bit style Street Fighter game, but with still 6 button controls...it would be funky and crazy and fun.
Or just take all the Sprites from like the Dreamcast Street Fighter, Darkstalkers, and every other Capcom fighter and merge them into one fantastic game...I would not care if the balance was off...I think it would be fun.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on August 02, 2008, 12:38:08 AM
A 8 bit Street Fighter would be interesting. I like your All-star Capcom fighter. It sounds so familiar.:)
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Post by: Adrock on August 02, 2008, 01:48:12 AM
Or just take all the Sprites from like the Dreamcast Street Fighter, Darkstalkers, and every other Capcom fighter and merge them into one fantastic game...I would not care if the balance was off...I think it would be fun.
Too late (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capcom_Fighting_Evolution).
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 02, 2008, 06:22:45 PM
CFE only had like the three most boring characters from each series, I didn't want to pick any of them anymore before I had played a whole hour
Marvel, on the other hand. THAT'S SO PRINGLES BABY. WHERE YO CURLEH MUSTACHE AT.
On topic: I can't think of any reason to buy SF4 for Wii what with the gimped hardware and goofy controller
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 02, 2008, 06:27:45 PM
Wii needs Final Fight 4.
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Post by: Mesu on August 18, 2008, 02:49:20 AM
It's not Street Fighter 4 but it sounds like Wii will get Tatsunoko vs Capcom!
That's accurate, but I was mainly taking a stab at how developers claim their games can be done on the Wii, but fail to support it.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 21, 2008, 12:28:24 PM
I guess Street Fighter VC sales aren't high enough to warrant ANYTHING.
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Post by: DungeonO on August 21, 2008, 11:28:27 PM
I wouldn't mind SF4 hitting the Wii. It would be interesting to see what sort of control scheme they come up with, although alternative classic controller support would have to be a must.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 22, 2008, 01:04:46 AM
For a game like street fighter screw motion controls, take Guilty Gear Accent Core for example, Wii remote and Nunchuk mode sucked, for the game it's either Classic Controller/Arcade stick or bust, gamecube controller was decent but by default the dpad is turned off for some reason so you have to dig in the menus to enable it.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on August 22, 2008, 01:24:40 AM
Hmm how would I control SFIV? Ryu and Ken:The Hadoken I would put wiimote and nunchuk to the side of my hips and push forward to let it fly.Depending on how fast I go from hips to full extension determines speed. The Dragon Punch you would do a uppercut motion with the wiimote.Their rotating kick you would start the wiimote in front of you and move it in a circular motion. If you want to move to the left then you would move it to the left then make it back to the original position. If you want to go right then you move it to the right till you return to your original position.
Guile: With his sonic boom you would start the wiimote and nunchuk on opposite sides and then bring them together.Flash kick you would start the wiimote tilted down then you would bring it up.
Chun Li: Her fireball would have the wiimote and nunchuk above your head then you would move it forward. Just like Ryu and Ken speed of movement dictates speed of fireball.Spinning Bird kick you would do a lasso motion.Lightning Kick you would put the wiimote in front of you with the buttons facing up and you would rotate it in a circle.
Edmond Honda: Hundred hand slap is the same as Chun Li's Lightning kick. You would move E.Honda forward and back with the analog stick.His Banzai Torpedo would have you have your hands beside you and you move forward both hands.
I can't think of anymore.
Flames why would it not work?
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Post by: Mesu on August 22, 2008, 05:11:33 AM
Hmm how would I control SFIV? Ryu and Ken:The Hadoken I would put wiimote and nunchuk to the side of my hips and push forward to let it fly.Depending on how fast I go from hips to full extension determines speed. The Dragon Punch you would do a uppercut motion with the wiimote.Their rotating kick you would start the wiimote in front of you and move it in a circular motion. If you want to move to the left then you would move it to the left then make it back to the original position. If you want to go right then you move it to the right till you return to your original position.
Guile: With his sonic boom you would start the wiimote and nunchuk on opposite sides and then bring them together.Flash kick you would start the wiimote tilted down then you would bring it up.
Chun Li: Her fireball would have the wiimote and nunchuk above your head then you would move it forward. Just like Ryu and Ken speed of movement dictates speed of fireball.Spinning Bird kick you would do a lasso motion.Lightning Kick you would put the wiimote in front of you with the buttons facing up and you would rotate it in a circle.
Edmond Honda: Hundred hand slap is the same as Chun Li's Lightning kick. You would move E.Honda forward and back with the analog stick.His Banzai Torpedo would have you have your hands beside you and you move forward both hands.
I can't think of anymore.
Flames why would it not work?
That's one way to do it. I imagine controlling the speed of fireballs would work well in this method(motions controls should have variation like in Wii Sports instead just one pre-made animation for each move).There's a lot of other things to take into account such as supers and assigning the 6 attack buttons that need to exist regardless of special moves. It would be good if it had lots of control types to choose from.
One way to do it would be to make it like the genesis version of Street Fighter 2 without the 6 button pad. In that game the 3 buttons toggled in between punches and kick when the player pushed the start button. This might seem like a bad idea but remember it would be easier to switch the B,C, and Z buttons from punches into kicks because you wouldn't have to take your hand off the buttons or d-pad to switch. A switch could be made by pressing the analog stick(because your other thumb isn't doing anything otherwise) or by shaking the remote or nunchuck. This control type could even be combined with motion control for specials and still let you do specials with quarter circle and charge commands. This could happen with in the same control type.
Another way to do this to make it a 2 button game(one button for punch, one for kick) where if you swing the remote fast while attacking you do your strongest attack and if you swing the remote slowing you do a medium attack, and if you don't swing the remote you do a quick weak attack. This can be done only using the remote or with remote/nunchuck combo. If you use the remote only you'd hold the remote sideways and play it like a normal Street Fighter game except with moving the remote. Specials would still be quarter circle and charge moves.
If you used the remote/nunchuck combo you could use the analog the determine the strength of moves. For example players would use the B trigger on the back of the remote for punches and the C or Z button on the back of the nunchuck for kicks. Then by pushing up on the analog players would make any punch or kick turn into a fierce punch or kick. By pressing down on the analog it could make kick and punch into light attacks by doing nothing they are medium attacks. This method could also be combine with motion controlled specials.
The last idea I had was for Capcom to provide a small piece of plastic with the game so players could make their own virtual arcade stick with the remote acting as the joystick. This frees up the A button for use because the D-pad wouldn't be used. After that happens the game will have 4 buttons so the final 2 buttons could come from press a combination of buttons for example:
A standard arcade layout looks like this:
1 2 3 4 5 6
with the 3 and 6 buttons being the fierce attacks. What if pressing 1 and 2 at the same time caused a fierce attack(same thing for 4 and 5)? That would mean the game only needs 4 buttons.
The reason I believe a piece of plastic is necessary to make this virtual arcade stick because you wouldn't want to press the remote vertically down on a surface with the nunchuck attached. You could do this with 2 remotes per player but that would too expensive for some people.
Edit: I just tried to mimic this control to see what it would be like and it wasn't as comfortable as I hoped. Shortly after that I noticed that if you flip the wiimote upside down so the pointer is pointed toward the ground it becomes a lot more comfortable as a joystick. The A and B buttons would not be use in this setup but instead the "1" and "2" buttons. A big advantage to this is you wouldn't need a piece of plastic to make your virtual arcade stick.
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on August 22, 2008, 08:56:14 AM
Hmm how would I control SFIV? Ryu and Ken:The Hadoken I would put wiimote and nunchuk to the side of my hips and push forward to let it fly.Depending on how fast I go from hips to full extension determines speed. The Dragon Punch you would do a uppercut motion with the wiimote.Their rotating kick you would start the wiimote in front of you and move it in a circular motion. If you want to move to the left then you would move it to the left then make it back to the original position. If you want to go right then you move it to the right till you return to your original position.
Guile: With his sonic boom you would start the wiimote and nunchuk on opposite sides and then bring them together.Flash kick you would start the wiimote tilted down then you would bring it up.
Chun Li: Her fireball would have the wiimote and nunchuk above your head then you would move it forward. Just like Ryu and Ken speed of movement dictates speed of fireball.Spinning Bird kick you would do a lasso motion.Lightning Kick you would put the wiimote in front of you with the buttons facing up and you would rotate it in a circle.
Edmond Honda: Hundred hand slap is the same as Chun Li's Lightning kick. You would move E.Honda forward and back with the analog stick.His Banzai Torpedo would have you have your hands beside you and you move forward both hands.
I can't think of anymore.
Flames why would it not work?
1. In practice it wouldn't work very well because you are asking for very specific movements. 2. It's overcomplicated and people in general won't know what the hell to do, or sometimes the game will register the movements wrong. (See: SSX Blur the uber tricks)
In guilty gear the 4 main punch and kick moves (weak/strong punch and kick were mapped to the dpad of all places) Special moves were I think holding down a button and shaking the wii remote, for special moves it was holding like 2 or 3 buttons and shaking the wii remote. In conclusion those controls sucked.
Also in a traditional 2D fighting game people would want to use one of 3 things 1. Classic controller 2. Hori's Wii Arcade Stick (http://www.amazon.com/Wii-Fighting-Stick-Nintendo/dp/B000SKLUXS/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=videogames&qid=1219409592&sr=8-1) 3. Gamecube controller(if that controller is supported)
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 23, 2008, 05:59:24 AM
Hmm. Yes. I could buy the classic controller or Hori stick and use it with all zero of the other compatible Wii games I own. Brilliant
They should probably just come out with that weird Street Fighter Online game where you just use the mouse and two buttons. I bet it's great!
Seriously though, in the interview, it seems like he's just saying, "Yeah, well, whatever, we could do that, I guess...?"
Maybe an original Street Fighter title would be a better choice for the Wii. They should follow SNK's lead and make a dating sim with all of the female characters instead of a fighting game. I'd buy it!
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Post by: NotRimmer on August 23, 2008, 06:20:17 AM
Why hasn't anyone hired Ty to make games for them, or at least come up with game ideas?
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Post by: S-U-P-E-R on August 23, 2008, 06:29:42 AM
I'm going to start introducing myself as a professional video game analyist/academic
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Post by: Nile Boogie on September 08, 2008, 08:02:14 PM
Well after playing this game today at I have to say, WHATEVER SYSTEM STREET FIGHTER 4 GOES TO I AM BUYING! And if by any slim chance this comes to Wii, I would really rather not have motion controls forced on the game. It plays like SSF2T on speed 2 and is perfect and flavorous!!!
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Post by: EasyCure on March 10, 2010, 07:48:24 PM
"Street Fighter IV Uppercuts Way Onto Iphone" (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/03/street-fighter-iv-uppercuts-way-onto-iphone/1)
or "Wii gets the shaft, again.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 10, 2010, 09:16:30 PM
"Street Fighter IV Uppercuts Way Onto Iphone" (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/gamehunters/post/2010/03/street-fighter-iv-uppercuts-way-onto-iphone/1)
or "Wii gets the shaft, again.
You could say that Nintendo [got] Teabagged Once Again. (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=30194.msg585962#msg585962)
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Post by: EasyCure on March 10, 2010, 09:32:39 PM
Thats the thread i was looking for! ugh i couldn't remember the name and i couldn't find the SF4 thread in general gaming. Thanks!
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 11, 2010, 02:43:26 AM
If people would title their thread something that told what the thread was about it would be easier to find stuff on here. If you are making an SF4 thread, please title it that. Don't title it "guess what's coming to other systems but not to the Wii" (or something like that).
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Post by: Dasmos on March 11, 2010, 03:06:37 AM
i thought member moderation was against the rules?
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 11, 2010, 04:33:53 AM
i thought member moderation was against the rules?
I'm not moderating anyone, or even trying to moderate anyone. Its just a suggestion. It is one of my pet peeves when people give their threads some generic title that no one can possibly tell what its about without clicking into the thread. The whole point of having thread titles is to give some general idea of what its going to be about, but a lot of people don't use them right.
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 11, 2010, 06:43:16 AM
Chozo originally the title of the thread was "SF4 could come to Wii" Someone suggested a name change for the title so I changed it. EasyCure made a slight mistake in posting it here so in your eyes you thought that this was something about Street Fighter 4 not coming to Wii.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 11, 2010, 11:20:21 AM
No, I think he's taking a dig at "Nintendo Teabagged Once Again" as not being titled properly, but that is what the thread is about, Nintendo being dogged in favor of other platforms. So if anyone happens to find news about things that should have been coming to Wii but instead came to lesser platforms, then I would consider it Nintendo getting Teabagged Once Again or as you put it "guess what's coming to other systems but not to the Wii", and we don't need a new thread about it everytime. It's an all inclusive thread, not specifically about any one specific game or item.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 11, 2010, 05:55:42 PM
I was referring to the SF4 thread he said he couldn't find. I was assuming the reason he couldn't find it is because someone gave it a confusing title. I could be wrong because I haven't seen that thread, but I know this happens often on forums.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 11, 2010, 06:02:15 PM
oh, I stand corrected.
SF4 thread in General Gaming.... don't remember ever seeing one.
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Post by: Chozo Ghost on March 11, 2010, 06:08:55 PM
I think we're all assuming a SF4 thread even exists at all. Its a safe assumption to make, because why wouldn't there be a thread for that game? But I guess its possible no one ever got around to making one, and just posted news and whatever about it into other threads...
But if that's the case maybe someone should make one?
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Post by: BeautifulShy on March 11, 2010, 06:59:45 PM
I just bumped the SF 4 topic in General gaming.If it comes to Wii than I guess we could use this topic for the game otherwise don't bump this topic.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on March 11, 2010, 10:28:43 PM
They should still make it for the Wii and they should use hand-painted sprites a la Muramasa.
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Post by: EasyCure on March 13, 2010, 09:21:46 PM
