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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Mario Kart Wii: Suggestion
« on: November 08, 2007, 01:38:07 AM »
I echo Isanlord's sentiments.  I love the idea, but Nintendo has generally been behind the curve on customization in games.  Minus Animal Crossing, but that game is basically all about customization.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Official DS Sales Thread
« on: November 07, 2007, 04:07:24 AM »
Never underestimate the power of boobies.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Miyamoto tells me to wait five years...
« on: November 07, 2007, 04:04:21 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
"I'd also disagree that the ease of use is an illusion. Learning a game like Splinter Cell or even Zelda means investing 20-30 minutes in tutorials (and that's if you're already a gamer)."

Yeah but the remote hasn't made learning Zelda easier.  Metroid Prime 3 still requires some time to figure out how to play.  I took a while for me and I've played Metroid Prime 1&2 so I was trying to figure out how to scan and such.  A newcomber would take a lot longer since they don't even know the concept.  That's all based on the game itself.  Wii Sports is very easy to learn how to play but then even if it used a traditional controller (and thus really sucked) it would still be very easy to learn.  Meanwhile games that had a steeper learning curve and more complexity aren't easier to get into because of the remote.

The non-games and specifically Wii Sports is where the credit is really due.  Everyone is familiar with baseball and tennis and such so they see a game that looks really easy to get into and they're interested.  The non-gamers I encounter that are interested in the Wii are really only interested in titles like Wii Sports and Wii Play which are simple titles that take no time at all to learn.  They're not interested in Metroid Prime 3 or Super Mario Galaxy or SSB Brawl.  Those games remain complex (and thank God for that) and the controller not only doesn't make them less so (unless Nintendo intentionally borks the game) but it doesn't even create the illusion of ease-of-use.  Hell maybe the remote and the touchscreen aren't really deserving of as much credit as the non-games themselves are an essential part.  It's really the combination.  The controls provide the illusion of ease-of-use and that combines with a simplistic game (or "non-game") that attracts the attention of those who for whatever reason decided they weren't interested in games.


We have yet to see a Zelda designed for Wii from the ground-up.  I'm not saying it will be easier, but I've been hearing that Super Mario Galaxy is easier (no camera to worry about).

But you do have a point, that "non-games" are where the credit really lies.  Interesting!  Perhaps it's more the software like Nintendogs and Wii Sports that deserves the credit for Nintendo's turnaround, but the software goes hand-in-hand with the new interfaces that the company has created.  I always assumed Wii Fit would just use the motion controllers, and I was confused by the board at first, but now I understand: Nintendo needs the right interface to communicate with the end-user.  The balance board lets Wii mimic step-aerobics and yoga, languages that non-gamers already understand.

Rayman Raving Rabbids can be an okay workout, but Jane-30-something trying to get back to her pre-baby weight will likely relate to Wii Fit a lot better.

I also tend to agree with Smash Bros' talk about how the controller makes games more immersive, but that seems to be a subject of debate among gamers.  Some hate waggle, some love it.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: A year later......
« on: November 07, 2007, 03:45:21 AM »
The beginning of the year was pretty rough...basically none of the games Nintendo promised made it out.

Other than that, I'm really happy.  I love the controller, and there are at least 10 games I would like to buy in this last quarter of 07, I really can't ask for more than that, I don't have time!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Official Wii Sales Thread
« on: November 07, 2007, 03:39:19 AM »
More news on the "WII IS D00M3D!!!" front...leaked Famitsu numbers suggest that Super Mario Galaxy didn't push the system back up to previous levels - just another week at 40,000.  And the game itself only sold 250,000 copies.

Of course, 40,000 is still more than twice what the other two consoles are selling, and 250,000 copies is still three times what the second-place game, Ace Combat 6, got.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Miyamoto tells me to wait five years...
« on: November 06, 2007, 08:09:17 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane

"I will sum up my argument as follows: Fastest-selling video game system in North America, ever."

That doesn't mean the existing controller was broken.  Those who took the short amount of time needed to use it had no problems with it.  The remote works well as a marketing tool as it creates the illusion of ease-of-use to those who refused to learn the old method.  It's like how I know people of older generations that will not pay for gas at the pump and will not use microwaves.  Do those have broken interfaces?  No.  Those who don't have a bias against them and try them out adapt to them immediately.


However, your original point was that Nintendo didn't make a big life-altering innovation.  I would totally disagree: when I see YouTube videos of senior homes putting on Wii bowling tournaments, I think life for those people has changed quite a bit - about as much as video games can change life.  I'd also disagree that the ease of use is an illusion.  Learning a game like Splinter Cell or even Zelda means investing 20-30 minutes in tutorials (and that's if you're already a gamer).

Now, I am perhaps being obtuse here, because I guess you really want to say that we aren't getting games that couldn't somehow be adapted to other controllers* but to say that this hasn't had a big impact on the industry would be false.  Nintendo is in first place, the audience for gaming is expanding, and the face of blockbuster gaming is changing from Link and Cloud Strife to Dr. Kawashima and Miis.

*although there's no denying that Wii Sports or Rayman Raving Rabbids would be really boring on an ordinary controller, or that Metroid Prime 3 would play worse on an ordinary controller.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Miyamoto tells me to wait five years...
« on: November 06, 2007, 07:08:37 AM »
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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
The Wii has been from day one fixing something that was never broken.  They may get non-gamers to TRY the remote and it's a very good marketing tool but no one who spent more than five seconds learning how to use a "traditional" controller had a problem with it.


I will sum up my argument as follows: Fastest-selling video game system in North America, ever.

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The "Space Invaders" one is weird and disturbing.

I love the guy and the little kid that rep. the disk system. They sure like yelling at each other!

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NWR Forums Discord / RE: Classic Internet
« on: November 05, 2007, 08:21:44 AM »
...and the only x-rated fanfics were for Star Trek.

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General Gaming / RE:RockStar a bunch of hypocrites?
« on: November 05, 2007, 08:01:47 AM »
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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
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Originally posted by: Ceric
Parody is Fair Use.  They should have stuck with there guns but I can see that they probably did it out of courtesy so they don't get with one of there games associated with the killing of ladies of the night.


Bingo. Otherwise Weird Al would be out of a job.


Well, technically Weird Al asks for permission before he does anything, but you're right.

My bet is that the lawyers and execs didn't want to get into a dust-up with Rockstar over it, and the developers went along with it.  Sure they could win a legal battle over this but EA is a big, faceless corporation with better things to do than defend artistic freedom.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Zack & Wiki: Buy it! (If you can find it...)
« on: November 05, 2007, 07:22:29 AM »
After all the hubub at launch, the game was extremely easy to find in my area.

It's rad, too.  I was really dubious about this one because I'm not a point-and-click fan overall, but it's really good.  I like that it's split into levels and that everything is so physical...I'm not spending my time talking to a dozen NPCs every time I pick up an item so I can figure out what to do with it.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Miyamoto tells me to wait five years...
« on: November 05, 2007, 07:13:56 AM »
Does anyone have the quotation in it's original context.  He could mean all sorts of things by this.

Personally, I've been thinking something like this recently...but the context is, "People still don't have faith in Wii at this point, but five years down the road when we're all looking back, I believe Wii will be seen as the best of the three systems."  Or he could mean we'll have to wait five years for Wii to be any good...which seems to be the viewpoint a few are automatically taking here.

I hear a lot of people talking about games and how they will affect the system's lifespan, and I want to point out that Wii has the most third party games this holiday season.  Yes 95% are crap, but for a Nintendo console to have the most games in a holiday season was inconceivable two years ago.  

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Zack & Wiki: Buy it! (If you can find it...)
« on: October 26, 2007, 07:22:33 AM »
I will go on a quest to find this game tonight!  Wish me luck.  Or if you'd rather wish me hatred for not preordering, whatever...

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TalkBack / RE:IMPRESSIONS: Battalion Wars 2
« on: October 26, 2007, 04:03:28 AM »
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Originally posted by: Professional 666
This doesn't sound like 7.5 material.  What gives?


New NP management hates Nintendo confirmed!

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: 99c stores for Wiimote skins
« on: October 22, 2007, 10:52:46 AM »
I'd rather have unprotected sex with Lindsay Lohan than use these things.

But it's good info for those who want 'em.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Costumes
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:47:05 AM »
Interesting finds!  No Daisy confirmed?

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General Gaming / RE: Wow, Capcom fails again.
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:33:19 AM »
My guess is the game will be stylized 3D similar to the trailer, but who knows?

I wonder if it would be practical to make the game with 2D vector graphics?

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General Gaming / RE: RockStar a bunch of hypocrites?
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:30:59 AM »
Looks like the lawyers won this one. :{

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Wii isn't hardcore enough
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:05:48 AM »
They'll learn or die.  I think a lot of game developers are hardcore gamers as well, and like many hardcore gamers, they still don't get it.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE:Crazy Climbers Wii
« on: October 22, 2007, 08:02:31 AM »
Hyperbole and outrage!

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NWR Forums Discord / RE: The craziest week of my life
« on: October 16, 2007, 08:33:52 AM »
Hey Vudu, how about those drugs, you really like drugs, eh? Drugs and Vudu, like cookies and milk...

This city always seems so safe after hearing about crime in the U.S.

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I'd vote for changing Khushrenada's name to Ku.  Or maybe "abc".

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My life is a sham!  I'm quitting video games for gud.

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Nintendo Gaming / RE: Nintendo Wins Marketer of the Year
« on: October 16, 2007, 07:49:28 AM »
Everyone I know has fun with the name.  It's a joke or it's not, but now that the machine is out there, Wii isn't a stupid word, it's...just another word.  I personally think the name was a great choice.  We can't prove it, but I believe it's non-threatening compared to other console names.

As for the larger issue of winning a marketing award, I do feel Nintendo's marketing has been strong on this product, but I also feel that the product really sells itself.  I guess it is a marketing success in that Nintendo designed the Wii well in the first place.

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General Chat / RE: Heroes Season 2 - Some Spoilers in this thread
« on: October 10, 2007, 05:04:33 AM »
It seems pretty unlikely that a powerless Sylar would be able to beat Candice...she appeared to be conscious right after the mug-slap and she could have changed everything around...however, the fact that she was grossly overweight afterwards leaves me to think that he did indeed kill her.  She hinted that she wasn't pretty in "real life" at the end of last season.

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