Author Topic: Sony getting hit Hard lately (Read 665202 times)

Plugabugz · « **Reply #2350 on:** October 04, 2007, 08:44:42 PM »

Now some shops want Sony to cut the price of the 2?

Kairon · « **Reply #2351 on:** October 05, 2007, 05:32:37 AM »

Sooo... 400 euros for a 40GB PS3 with no PS2 backwards compatibility AT ALL (unlike the 80 GB which has removed the PS2's emotion engine and emulates it, this version has removed BOTH the emotion engine AND the Graphics Synthesizer chip from the PS2), only 2 USB ports, and no memory card reader. US announcement sometime this month?

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2352 on:** October 05, 2007, 06:51:43 AM »

BY GETTING LESS, YOU GAIN MORE, RIGHT?

Ceric · « **Reply #2353 on:** October 05, 2007, 04:05:15 PM »

Thats why I was an early adopter... Long live the PS2...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #2354 on:** October 07, 2007, 09:10:10 PM »

400€ seems like a good target to me. At least they're not that far of an outlier now. Of course losing BC sucks but I bet they're banking on the public being unaware of that.

NinGurl69 *huggles · « **Reply #2355 on:** October 08, 2007, 10:06:56 AM »

THE TRUTH COMES OUT AND ALL IS RIGHT WITH THE WORLD

Sony guy explains that Euro ps3 early-adopters paid the high premium to get 6 months of unprecedented gaming before everyone else.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #2356 on:** October 08, 2007, 07:42:59 PM »

Or unprecedented paperweighting, for that matter...

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #2357 on:** October 09, 2007, 07:12:23 AM »

Sony confirms that the PS2 sucks and is for kids.

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Nintendo Wii should be compared with PlayStation 2 for the functionality, the experience, and the demographic it appeals to. Consumers in that space will compare between a PS2 and a Wii, not a Wii and a PS3--they're just completely different animals.

Full interview can be found here

Haha, this has to be the stupidest comment I've EVER heard from Sony. So they are basically saying the PS2 appeals to the same demographic as Wii? Is this supposed to be an insult?

Mashiro · « **Reply #2358 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:07:37 AM »

God, can Sony just fall out of the console race? Please?

I don't even care anymore, I want MS and Nintendo to crush them so badly that they lose Billions of dollars and never ever make a console ever again. OR at the very least fire these idiots making these comments.

How many more stupid comments can they make? Seriously?

Kairon · « **Reply #2359 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:22:25 AM »

I'm afraid with MS. If Sony goes, what's to keep MS from abusing consoles just like they've abused the OS market?

vudu · « **Reply #2360 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:27:07 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
I'm afraid with MS. If Sony goes, what's to keep MS from abusing consoles just like they've abused the OS market?

Nintendo

capamerica · « **Reply #2361 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:30:55 AM »

MS doesn't care about the console market.
Once Sony is dead and gone they will most likely bow out of the console market and just release a Gamer Edition of Windows. It would be like Media Center just with the Xbox360 interface.

The only reason MS entered the market was to combat Sony cause they were moving into their turf.

I wrote about what will happen to MS once Sony is gone on my Live Journal awhile back:
http://cap-america.livejournal.com/43058.html

Spak-Spang · « **Reply #2362 on:** October 09, 2007, 09:32:52 AM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
I'm afraid with MS. If Sony goes, what's to keep MS from abusing consoles just like they've abused the OS market?

Simple: Microsoft will never dominate Japan, so Nintendo will be able to continue as strong competition. But seriously, look how corrupted Sony got after they became the leader of the industry. I think I trust Microsoft now more than Sony with creating actual game systems and innovating the industry.

Mashiro · « **Reply #2363 on:** October 09, 2007, 10:40:00 AM »

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what's to keep MS from abusing consoles just like they've abused the OS market?

Nintendo =)

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #2364 on:** October 09, 2007, 10:47:47 AM »

Why exactly is everyone fearing MS? Nintendo is the one to fear now with its piles of money.

Kairon · « **Reply #2365 on:** October 09, 2007, 10:51:52 AM »

Nintendo could never stop an MS bulldozer.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #2366 on:** October 09, 2007, 11:21:27 AM »

I don't think MS is in a position to dominate the gaming industry like it does the PC software industry. Yes, Microsoft has more money than Nintendo, but as Wii has already proven, it's not all about money or the size of the company. Nintendo is smart and knows how to survive in this industry. I think defeating Nintendo once and for all would require more than pure money.

silverwings07 · « **Reply #2367 on:** October 09, 2007, 11:38:30 AM »

I know that MS won't ever take Japan, persay... but if Sony were to leave the market, where do Capcom and SE put their big-budget graphics heavy titles?

Would they tone down the graphics that titles like MGS and FF are known for and stay with the Wii (or Wii sequel) rather than moving to MS's next machine, which has a similar direction to Sony?

Mashiro · « **Reply #2368 on:** October 09, 2007, 11:55:57 AM »

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Nintendo could never stop an MS bulldozer.

I think Nintendo has proved it can with Wii wouldn't you agree?

Just because MS dominates the PC world with it's OS doesn't mean it can buy it's way into every market as the dominating force.

Just look at the Zune for example, couldn't even put a dent in iPod sales

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #2369 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:11:30 PM »

THe main reason why MS dominates the OS market is because they were really one of the first, they had a first movers advantage that they ran with, heck that is still basically what MS is even today, an OS/Application first company with everything else as more side ventures. Gaming on the other hand they don't have anywhere close to one, so I really don't think they will be dominating anyone.

UERD · « **Reply #2370 on:** October 09, 2007, 12:46:18 PM »

The problem is that MS's management structure doesn't allow them to innovate very readily. Take the Zune. I'm sure there were engineers and designers deep within the company who came up with great ideas that would have put the iPod to shame if they had been built into a production device. But ultimately upper management and focus groups turned it into a spectacularly mis-marketed mediocre PMP. It's the same with consoles- as long as Nintendo is willing to take steps to innovate (which seems quite likely given the success of the DS and the Wii), they should be able to maintain at least a strong foothold within the console market.

Chozo Ghost · « **Reply #2371 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:09:49 PM »

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Why exactly is everyone fearing MS? Nintendo is the one to fear now with its piles of money.

Not anywhere near as much as Microsoft does. Heck, even Bill Gates has more money than the entire company!

Also, Nintendo is pretty much only into video games right now. MS runs its software on 100s of millions of computers around the world, and so it has a lot of power to potentially abuse.

Kairon · « **Reply #2372 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:12:48 PM »

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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Why exactly is everyone fearing MS? Nintendo is the one to fear now with its piles of money.

Not anywhere near as much as Microsoft does. Heck, even Bill Gates has more money than the entire company!

Also, Nintendo is pretty much only into video games right now. MS runs its software on 100s of millions of computers around the world, and so it has a lot of power to potentially abuse.

Not to mention a lot of extra resources and no-how to leverage if they wanted to. They're already the leader in console online gaming technology.

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #2373 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:21:50 PM »

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Originally posted by: Kairon
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Originally posted by: Chozo Ghost
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Originally posted by: GoldenPhoenix
Why exactly is everyone fearing MS? Nintendo is the one to fear now with its piles of money.

Not anywhere near as much as Microsoft does. Heck, even Bill Gates has more money than the entire company!

Also, Nintendo is pretty much only into video games right now. MS runs its software on 100s of millions of computers around the world, and so it has a lot of power to potentially abuse.

Not to mention a lot of extra resources and no-how to leverage if they wanted to. They're already the leader in console online gaming technology.

Talk about sky is falling paranoia. Maybe they are leading because ::gasp:: they have a good console online infrastructure?

Mashiro · « **Reply #2374 on:** October 09, 2007, 01:29:38 PM »

Actually, in regards to the whole money thing with MS, recent reports say Apple has more actual money then MS. I think MS just has lots of net worth and value but not as much actual cash flow.

I think . . . does that make any sense?

I may be wrong on this but I remember reading that somewhere . . . looking for source.

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