Topic: The 3DS Fall Might Break Its Back

[Chozo Ghost]

Here is my conspiracy theory.  Nintendo short changes the 3DS this fall so that Wii U isn't overshadowed by its better line up.  Then to get your fix you by buying a Wii U and more of its games than you had planned.  Next spring when Wii U slows down you release some of your big 3DS titles to satiate gamers.


I don't really believe this, but I think very few people who promote conspiracy theories really believe them.

The problem with that conspiracy theory is it could easily backfire and get people to buy games for other systems (or even buy other systems, if they don't already have them).

[Tennindo]

I guess the only thing we can look forward for is Paper Mario and New Super Mario Bros 2.
really 2012 wasn't a bad year for the 3DS. not like last year. We still have Kingdom Hearts, Heroes of Ruin, Mario Tennis, and Kid Icarus that will sell well during the holidays when parents buy the 3DS system. I think the 3DS will be ok during the Holiday.

[Pixelated Pixies]

I guess the only thing we can look forward for is Paper Mario and New Super Mario Bros 2.
really 2012 wasn't a bad year for the 3DS. not like last year. We still have Kingdom Hearts, Heroes of Ruin, Mario Tennis, and Kid Icarus that will sell well during the holidays when parents buy the 3DS system. I think the 3DS will be ok during the Holiday.

It depends on the type of games that interest you I guess. 2012 thus far for me has been a pretty sparse year in terms of 3DS releases that I am interested in. In fact, the only retail 3DS game I've bought this year has been Kid Icarus: Uprising (and not to open that can of worms again, but I don't think it was half as good as many people suggest).
 
The games I was looking forward to most have all been delayed until next year, Fire Emblem being my most anticipated. Being as though I only have a Wii and 3DS, you can imagine how starved I am for games right now. The delay of even one of these games, like Luigi's Mansion, blows sizeable holes in the release schedule for someone like me.

[Louieturkey]

I've heard Kingdom Hearts 3D is a pretty good action RPG.  Or are you only interested in SRPGs?

[Pixelated Pixies]

I've heard Kingdom Hearts 3D is a pretty good action RPG.  Or are you only interested in SRPGs?

I'm not really much of an RPG guy full stop. Thanks to retroactive though I played Ogre Battle 64 and Fire Emblem and have inadvertently became an inexperienced fan of SRPGs. I have enjoyed quite a few JRPGs (Secret of Mana, Chronotrigger, FF6, The Last Story and Xenoblade being among my favourites), but it certainly wouldn't be my genre of choice.
 
As for Kingdom Hearts I can't say I've ever played one. I did try out the DDD demo and thought the Flow Motion stuff had some potential, but I had a real strong negative reaction to it aesthetically. The whole look of the game was really off putting to me. I mean technically it's one of the 3DS's better games, but I really don't like the art style of that game. I also had some serious camera issues during the demo. It could be cool I guess, I just don't think it's for me.

[Chocobo_Rider]

So much insanity in this thread....

People claim to want new IPs, and then discount them when they are coming.  People claim to want 3rd party support, and then complain and overlook it if it outshines first party stuff.

Just because LM2 and CV got pushed back, suddenly those are the games everyone wants the most.  People would be giving the same song and dance if you swapped those games out for Paper Mario and Epic Mickey or maybe even Code of Princess or the 999 sequel.

Seems like whatever could possibly be this month's weak link is suddenly the most important facet of a given Nintendo platform.  It's just a doom and gloom machine and it's a little embarrassing.

But hey, that's just my take.  Personally, I will struggle to afford all the 3DS games I want for the remainder of 2012 - let alone Wii U stuff.

[Pixelated Pixies]

So much insanity in this thread....

Just because LM2 and CV got pushed back, suddenly those are the games everyone wants the most.  People would be giving the same song and dance if you swapped those games out for Paper Mario and Epic Mickey or maybe even Code of Princess or the 999 sequel.

Seems like whatever could possibly be this month's weak link is suddenly the most important facet of a given Nintendo platform.  It's just a doom and gloom machine and it's a little embarrassing.

I think it just seems that way. I don't think that people would lie about which games they're interested in just because those games have been delayed (although I do not doubt that for some people a delay might heighten their anticipation). Neal's post was about two games which were being delayed, so you'd expect that those people who were most interested in those two games would have more to say about the topic.
 
So in a sense you're right. If the games being delayed were Paper Mario and Epic Mickey you'd probably get the same tone from many of the posts, but it wouldn't necessarilly be the same people. Personally, I'm glad that people are excited about playing these games and that they want to see a healthy release schedule for their platform. I'd be more embarrassed if nobody cared.

[Kairon]

WHERE'S ALL THE OUTRAGE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANIMAL CROSSING YET?!?!?

[NWR_insanolord]

That's the real outrage for me, Carmine. If we were getting Animal Crossing this fall I wouldn't care what got pushed to 2013.

[Chocobo_Rider]

@Pix^2

Yea, but it's not that people wouldn't CARE about those games.  It's the fact that people dwell on their absence to the extent of appearing to NOT CARE about what we ARE getting.

Btw, Luigi's Mansion 2 is one of the two games that made me say "yes! I will one day have to get a 3DS!" But I mean, c'mon, I can't be the only one with enough perspective to not have to start flippin' tea tables about playing it in the Winter/Spring instead of Fall/Winter.

Anyway, I appreciate that you did word your difference of opinion in a kind, respectful and level-headed way.  Good on you, man.  Seriously.

@Kairon

ha! I would also really like to know when that's happening =)

[broodwars]

For me, my ire is based on the fact that almost every game I was really looking forward to this year has been delayed into next year.  And next year, those games will all either kill each other, or they'll all be delayed again.  In fact, Castlevania LOS: MOF was one of the games I bought my 3DS for since I'm a big fan of the first Lords of Shadow.  With no Sly Cooper and no Castlevania this Fall, it's looking like a pretty underwhelming rest of the year in terms of games that I have had interest in.  Dishonored could be interesting, but I kind of want to see how it reviews first.  PSAS Battle Royale needs a lot of work from what I've seen of the Beta.  Everything either just doesn't appeal to me or doesn't look good enough to warrant an immediate purchase.

[ShyGuy]

Have a nice TRIP, see you next FALL.

[Chozo Ghost]

WHERE'S ALL THE OUTRAGE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANIMAL CROSSING YET?!?!?

Each Animal Crossing game is basically the same as the last. Just play your Wii or DS or Gamecube version. Doesn't really matter. All the same stuff.

[Kairon]

WHERE'S ALL THE OUTRAGE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANIMAL CROSSING YET?!?!?

Each Animal Crossing game is basically the same as the last. Just play your Wii or DS or Gamecube version. Doesn't really matter. All the same stuff.

Your lack of outrage disappoints me.

[Pixelated Pixies]

I would just like to say that I've never played an Animal Crossing game and don't really feel the need to. I still don't completely understand why those games are so popular from a gameplay perspective. Aren't those games ultimately just about farming, collecting, and buying stuff?

[AnGer]

I don't see any problems with the 3DS's fall line-up (except the fact that I'm pretty pissed about not getting Code of Princess, so people with an european 3DS like me will be at the mercy of niche publishers...), mainly because I don't think that people will buy (and play) all these must-haves in such a short timespan.

[NWR_Neal]

The combination of the 3DS line-up with the Vita line-up and the Wii U launch means it'll be a fine a fall. Last year, I basically survived almost solely on 3DS in the fall. That's why I'm disappointed. It's not a bad season; it's just not a great one.

[Chozo Ghost]

WHERE'S ALL THE OUTRAGE THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANIMAL CROSSING YET?!?!?

Each Animal Crossing game is basically the same as the last. Just play your Wii or DS or Gamecube version. Doesn't really matter. All the same stuff.

Your lack of outrage disappoints me.

The franchise needs a huge overhaul before I would get interested in it again. I bought the Gamecube version, and then later I got the DS version and I was disappointed at how it seems like I had just bought the same exact game twice. So having learned my lesson I passed on the Wii version, and from all accounts apparently it isn't a huge leap over the past versions just like I figured.

I need to see some hard evidence that the next Animal Crossing will be substantially different before I would consider buying it. I suppose a Wii U version that makes use of the tablet controller thing would probably have a lot of improvements in that respect, but would that be enough to justify it? We shall wait and see.

But Kairon, don't be outraged because I think its a certainty there will be an Animal Crossing on the Wii U. Whether its a worthwhile upgrade over the last ones remains to be seen, but either way it will happen.

[NWR_insanolord]

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the 3DS Animal Crossing that we know is in development and is most likely coming out in North America in early 2013. From what little we know of how it plays, it definitely seems like more of an overhaul than any previous version has been.

[Kairon]

But Kairon, don't be outraged because I think its a certainty there will be an Animal Crossing on the Wii U.

^_^

Whether its a worthwhile upgrade over the last ones remains to be seen, but either way it will happen.

T-T

[MegaByte]

The only way it would be interesting to me is if Animal Crossing WAS the Miiverse and it was MMO.

[Chozo Ghost]

Yeah, I agree with Megabyte. I've been thinking for a long time that Animal Crossing should be an MMORPG. There is only so much interaction you can have with an AI, and it gets boring and repetitive after awhile. But what if instead AI, all the characters you interact with are real people? Then the interactive potential suddenly becomes infinite.

The only downside is then you have to deal with people being offensive or obscene online. Nintendo would have to police that, especially when we're talking about an E rated game where parents won't want their kids exposed to F bombs and Swastika and what have you. This is the dilemma Nintendo faces in bringing the Wii U into the online era.

[NWR_insanolord]

It wouldn't really be Animal Crossing if you did that. I'd like to see the ability to share a town with a few friends online, but I don't want it to be an MMO. I like the AI characters, and I like having my own unique town. The 3DS game's focus on you being the mayor and customizing your town sounds great to me.

[NWR_Neal]

It wouldn't really be Animal Crossing if you did that. I'd like to see the ability to share a town with a few friends online, but I don't want it to be an MMO. I like the AI characters, and I like having my own unique town. The 3DS game's focus on you being the mayor and customizing your town sounds great to me.

And I think that's why the current Animal Crossing fans will be the only AC fans. It's the same thing with Pokemon, too, I feel.

[NWR_insanolord]

If you turn it into an MMO I don't think you'd gain that many fans; it'd basically be PlayStation Home all over again, where people might be interested at first but wouldn't stick around. You'd also alienate all the current fans by drastically changing it. Turning it into an MMO would effectively kill the franchise.