Topic: Rev Predictions

[Zach]

Ive been seeing predictions for the rev for a while now, spread out all over the forum, so I think its time we devoted a thread to it.

So post all of your rev predictions here so we can discuss them, release dates, launch titles, 3rd parties, what Ninty will do with the controller, anything you want.

I am thinking, a summer release of June-July, June 9th would make it the best birthday EVAR for me.  As for games, there will definately be something that shows off the rev controller, and what it can do.  Infact I would not put it past Miyamoto to come up with some game that manages to use the motion sensor ONLY.  Along with that there should be some a spectacular mario title at launch (I think it is agreed that Luigi's Mansion, while a good game, was not worthy of being the big launch title for the GC).  Anyway, something created by Miyamoto is a NECCESSITY (yes I am stating the obvious for discussion purposes).   Along with the Nintendo games, there deifinately needs to be some strong 3rd party support, and if they cant get that for a summer release, they might as well push the rev to a holiday release.  

Well I think that is all, I probably forgot something I wanted to say though.

[Strell]

No!  September 9!  SEPTEMBER 9!

I already got DC launch, let's go for a two-fer.

[bmfrosty]

Release sometime in November.  Possibly a month or two earlier in Japan.  
Two Price Points.

Cheap includes:
The System
1 Controller
the GCN Shell
The Nun-chuk
demo disc

Not as Cheap includes:
Everything in cheap
A shell more suited for emulation (like the GCN on the left, but like the N64 on the right, but with start AND select)
A $20 gift card for buying roms
Super Mario 128 or Super Mario 64-2

I'd price cheap at $130 and not as cheap at $170 or $180.

[Kairon]

This is pure speculation, but I'm guessing...

$179.99
Console
Stand
1 Controller + analog add-on
NES Mario Bros./Duck Hunt preloaded
Demo Disc

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

[Magik]

I totally disagree with a May-June release.  To me, it would be a terrible move by Nintendo when you consider May-June is exam time for students, so their attention will be focused on studying rather than a console.  That's a large portion of the gaming population.

When that is over with, most highschool/college/university students will be looking for summer jobs or are in summer school.  

How about the casual/non-gamer?  Their attention will be on other summer related activities such as holidays.

The REV also losses its appeal as a holiday-must-have item by the time the holidays come by.

If they for some reason decide on a May-June release, I hope for their sake they come out guns blazing with multiple titles that show what the REV can do.  No average games that make minimal use of the controller.  I'm talking about AAA titles that will blow everybody's mind.  No more Luigi's-crap-Mansion.

[darknight06]

They probably wouldn't, and that's why it's not coming out in May-June.  Oh, and I guarantee you it'll be $200 at launch.

[ShyGuy]

$200
early fall launch
bundled with shell and nunchuka
Squeenix game for launch
Wacky attachment by Sega within 6 months

[Spinnzilla]

Howa 'bout buying a Rev game and getting a few free downloads along with it?

[stevey]

My predictions are that reggie at E3 will say that "the revo will be shipping to store out *looks at watch* NOW and it will be for sale at the end of e3" and Mario128/SSBO/MP3 will be launch titles.

[Ceric]

Definetly $200.
Nintendo will not do the multiple system bundle thing.  It sounds like a good idea ...but its not.
Instead maybe some accessory packages.
Just a side note.  I remember the NES being $200 at some point as a bundle.  Which is a lot more expensive when you account for inflation from the 1980's.
3rd party will swear exclusiveness for certian titles and then when they are successes break the exclusiveness.
Feel the Magic: Revolution (You know you'd love it)
After the overwhelming complaints.  Rev controller will have a built in battery and charger station. (Though it would be cool if they used the technology that let it just be near the Rev to recharge)

Thats all for now this was done on a PDA.  It took a while.

[Magik]

Yeah, multiple bundles won't work well for a launch.  Over time will be the best way to release bundles with big titles similar to what they are doing with the DS.

Nintendo also needs to price those attachments well.  The public does not like paying top dollar for attachments that will be used infrequently. ie.  Konga Drums and microphone for the GC.  

[Ceric]

Magik:  I'm assuming you mean "infrequently".  Just to clear it up. and your right.  I mean I know I'm one of the few proud owners of the Dance pads, Network adapter, Progressive scan cables, Gameboy Player, and soon the Microphone.  When I can justify it I'm going to complete my set with the Kongos. (I do have the Wavebird and a Redant which lets me play my Cube on a Computer monitor.  If the Cube can hook up to it I can do it.)  So I am definetly in the minority about the peripheral thing.

[Zach]

Gotta disagree with you stevey, Nintendo is going to need some time to build some hype, also, only the really hardcore gamers pay any attention to E3, or even know what it is, so nintendo will need some time after they reveal everything at E3 to advertise and let the new (non-gamer) audience know what the revolution is, and what it will do.  Nintendo will need at the bare minimum a month to build up some hype, so that means June at the earliest, november at the latest.

[animecyberrat]

I predict that Nintendo will be the number 1 selling company again and SOny will finaly go under and have to reformat into what they used to be to stay alive and MS will just stick it out just to be pricks.


I also thik Nintendo will bunlde rev with a mario game just because that will attract  alarger userbase right away and make it easier for them to draw people in and then latter on they will sell it seperatley, tahst what tehy did the 2 generations the DOMINATED the industry and if they learn form the past they will see that.

Also they will most likely have Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros online for launch otherwise they piss the fans off and lose userbase. I think the system will sell for 150 for the core unit and 170 for a bunlde unit and 200 for the maxed out unit with everything, this way they cover their bases and offer somethign for everybody.

but the bunldes besdies Mario at launch will fo coarse be latter on.

[Magik]

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Magik:  I'm assuming you mean "infrequently".  Just to clear it up. and your right.  I mean I know I'm one of the few proud owners of the Dance pads, Network adapter, Progressive scan cables, Gameboy Player, and soon the Microphone.  When I can justify it I'm going to complete my set with the Kongos. (I do have the Wavebird and a Redant which lets me play my Cube on a Computer monitor.  If the Cube can hook up to it I can do it.)  So I am definetly in the minority about the peripheral thing.

Yes, I meant to use 'infrequently'.  Thanks for the correction.

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Originally posted by: animecyberrat

I predict that Nintendo will be the number 1 selling company again and SOny will finaly go under and have to reformat into what they used to be to stay alive and MS will just stick it out just to be pricks.


I also thik Nintendo will bunlde rev with a mario game just because that will attract alarger userbase right away and make it easier for them to draw people in and then latter on they will sell it seperatley, tahst what tehy did the 2 generations the DOMINATED the industry and if they learn form the past they will see that.

Also they will most likely have Metroid Prime 3 and Smash Bros online for launch otherwise they piss the fans off and lose userbase. I think the system will sell for 150 for the core unit and 170 for a bunlde unit and 200 for the maxed out unit with everything, this way they cover their bases and offer somethign for everybody.

but the bunldes besdies Mario at launch will fo coarse be latter on.

Sony nor MS will not go under.  People have said this before the PS2 and Xbox came out and look at things now.  PS2 is the #1 selling and known console in the world and the Xbox even has sold more than the GC.

A Mario game bundled at launch will not attract a larger userbase than what it currently is.  I don't know where you're getting this.  Face it, Mario is not as large as he was during the last two generations.

There will NOT be multiple system bundles.  This type of move is complete moronic just like it was when the 360 did it.  If Nintendo wants to maximize sales during launch, they need to keep it simple.

What is up with everybody and the idea of throwing all the top franchises at ONCE??  Top franchises should be spread out so each title gets the spotlight on them and allows a consistent flow of top franchise releases with 3rd party games backing them up.  The GC suffered from inconsistent releases and it hurt them in the long run.

Throwing MP3 and SSB at once will just put the focus on SSB and MP3 will be ignored because the popularity for SSB is A LOT larger than MP3.

They MUST have games at launch that show what the REV is all about and show the innovation that they claim the controller can bring.  If they aren't able to do that, they are going to find it even harder to convince people to take the REV seriously.

Nintendo absolutely must play it smart with the launch and its first year.  If they do it right, things will be looking A LOT better than it did with the GC.

[BlkPaladin]

Sony will not go out this generation or down the road. The Computer Entertainment division is Sony's only money making division and this souldn't change in the future. They may restructure and drop some divisions like their theater division they droped a few years back. (Theater not movie.) Sony has the most to lose this generation and they will loose quite a bit. (They standing and the number of consoles they sell will not be as unbalenced as it is this generation.) Whether it will be enough to knock them out of first pace in user base will remain to be seen.

Microsoft will not go out. They didn't make a profit with the Xbox, even though selling quite a few consoles. They over expended themselves to make a position for themselves in the market. Those expenducures may not be needed this generation meaning they will more than like make back some of the money (total money over the five years of Xbox) the Xbox lost. (aka making a profit on the 360.) The question is at what cost. With the rising prices of game developement for games that are not optimized for HD. The publishers have already started to take steps to keep games profitable by raising game prices $5-to-$10 (depending on the title) to make the average price $60.00 a game. This adjuctment was made off of projections and the price may be readjucted again.

Nintendo can gain the most this time around. And they are taking steps to help them make up ground. Nintendo is also great at making a profit so I have little doubt they will turn an enormous profit this generation with just the Revolution. And will be a contender even if they continue in third place.

[Dirk Temporo]

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Originally posted by: animecyberrat
I predict that Nintendo will be the number 1 selling company again and SOny will finaly go under and have to reformat into what they used to be to stay alive and MS will just stick it out just to be pricks.

You're joking, right?

[animecyberrat]

yes I was joking duh but i guess I forgot the emoticons or whatever to show that. thsi thread is ridiculous in my mind I just like playing along and having fun, damn it no one else every gets it though.


You have to hear me talk I cant get my tone across on the net so I always come off serious when if heard ina conversation would be more funny...
or maybe not differetn peopel ahve different sense of humor.

[jasonditz]

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Originally posted by: Ceric
Definetly $200.
Nintendo will not do the multiple system bundle thing.  It sounds like a good idea ...but its not.
Instead maybe some accessory packages.
Just a side note.  I remember the NES being $200 at some point as a bundle.  Which is a lot more expensive when you account for inflation from the 1980's.

Yeah, but the NES offered multiple bundles at any given time.

[animecyberrat]

every game system has had bundles at 1 point in its life, the launch bunlde shoudl ONLY be for mario ands ONLY for a limited time if at all. as for other titles availabel at launch there needs to be a variety so people have something to chose from, some people dont like Mario and wont care about him, so give them metroid prime or Smash bros. Or something new.


N64 had 2 launch games and was slow picking up, Gc had a few more and offered decent variety but the lack of Mario hurt a lot. Its kinda catch 22 for Nintenod, not enough good games at launch peolple will complain, too many good games and soemthgns gonna get lost in the mix. But I dont think know,  I think that only when theres too many games to chose form do teh good ones get lost, we are talking launch period, theres not going to be more than maybe ten games at launch, if that, so everygame will stand out.  Its after teh launch when more games start coming that the good ones have to stand out more to sell.

[Ceric]

Back to the K.I.S.S. principle.  I mean if there is anything other then the basic unit.  Tech support would be a nightmare in a way.  There are more things to go wrong.  If it's anything like the 360's debauchery then people who want units as gifts will end up getting jipped.  In the end 1 bundle to rule them all should be it.  

[Ceric]

Oh and to keep on topic, sorry about the double post, the new feature of the Revolution is....  A place to keep your Tea warm.   That's right.  You heard it here first.  Using complicated cooling features and the heat from the Triforce of Processors it will keep your tea or Coffee, we're equal oppurtunity, warm.  

[Flames_of_chaos]

How about screw all the bundles and let there be a pack in for some emulation D/Ls or better yet duck hunt preinstalled in the internal flash drive ,  Rev, revmote, nunchucku and shell should be standard. 199.99 should be the price.

[jasonditz]

Actually the Gamecube sold quite well at launch... I didn't get it until a couple of months later and it was sold out virtually everywhere then... I had to wait at Circuit City one afternoon for a shipment to come in.

The problem wasn't launch... the problem was:

Multi-quarter gaps without a decent title coming out
Multi-month gaps without a single title coming out
No decent original RPGs until several years into the system's life
Coming into holiday seasons without a "must buy" title
Sticking your best titles in the worst months for retail sales

[JonLeung]

I agree, the first year is a big one.

I got my GameCube on launch day, and only with Rogue Leader.  I got SSBM shortly after it came out, but for a few months that was it.  I rent games often, but my own library was just two games.  I bought Resident Evil as an impulse purchase (which turned me into a late RE fan, actually).  For the first year the must-have games were way too few, I could see how many people moved on when they had two other console alternatives and the PC to go to.

While I don't see confirmed games like the next SSB, the next Mario game, and Metroid Prime 3 coming out all at once, especially on the very launch day of the Revolution, I think it's important for them to all come within the first year.  Ideally, with enough solid third-party games for the months in between.