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Title: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 27, 2005, 04:19:34 PM
Probably 100% fake but an interesting rumor nonetheless.

Joystiq reports that Playfuls reports that Gamemag.ru reports that Inside Gamer reports that the Revolution is ready for mass production
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Kairon on December 27, 2005, 04:30:40 PM
How can we jump to going gold without knowing if the hardware is done yet?

I'm just hoping that final dev kits are going out and the hardware is done like this rumor suggests.

~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: cubist on December 27, 2005, 04:31:35 PM
it goes gold with no promo...hehehe...rrrrrrriiight...although it wouldn't surprise me since Nintendo has really bad marketing techniques.  

they've got moles working the advertising sector of the department...hehehe...
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: animecyberrat on December 27, 2005, 05:03:12 PM
>>Joystiq reports+ that Playfuls reports+that Gamemag.ru reports + that Inside Gamer reports + that the
Revolution is ready for mass production <<

TRANSLATION: "My brothers girlfriends cousins roommates best freinds daughters next door neigbor says
Revolution is ready for mass production"


thats what comes to my mind when i read that article, the 'news' site is reporting something someone else said that they heard from someone else and soon.

But taken with everything we know about Rev so far I think a summer launch is possible but June or July sounds more realistic than May, but I could be wrong. I am HOPING for a may release but only if theres some good games to go with it.  
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Rhoq on December 27, 2005, 05:20:37 PM
May '06 would be nice, but I'm going to guess Revolution launch day will be November 26, 2006 (the Sunday before Thanksgiving, like the DS' launch last year).

Unless Iwata and/or Reggie is going to drop the "By-the-way, Revolution is on it's way to retailers as I speak" bomb during the keynote of Nintendo's E3 presentation - May 2006 is not going to happen.  
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: BlkPaladin on December 27, 2005, 07:13:30 PM
If they are going to first show gameplay at E3 the soonest we would see a launch is in June or July give ample time for the game mags to come out and start the hype. And that is probally the time the PS3 will be coming out. I don't think it will be out until September at the eariliest, November at the latest.

If Nintendo wants anything close to the worldwide launch it wouldn't be too strange to start production to get enough units. Because with most new cars production starts in late August for a December release.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: UncleBob on December 28, 2005, 03:39:25 AM
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Originally posted by: Rhoq
Unless Iwata and/or Reggie is going to drop the "By-the-way, Revolution is on it's way to retailers as I speak" bomb during the keynote of Nintendo's E3 presentation - May 2006 is not going to happen.


Could you imangine though?

Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 28, 2005, 04:15:46 AM
Why is it hard to believe that Nintendo could be producing Revolution's now for production?  Or start producing them without making a public announcement.  If they aren't ready to show the games and show the software there is no point in making a public announcment.

However, if they want to make a huge presence at E3 having alot of real units available to play is important.  And if they want to make a worldwide launch with enough units then Nintendo definately needs to start producing.  

Now, I am not saying this story is TRUE.  I am saying it isn't unbelievable.  Hopefully, Nintendo decided to up the RAM in its system though.  (That's just me.)

Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: stevey on December 28, 2005, 04:42:31 AM
This dosen't shock me, nintendo haves been using modified part that are already out in the market for the rev and that mean they can start mass production and make lot of revo with in a short time. and I call a may rev launch with the new come at e3 a while ago, Reggie will drop the biggest bomb ever this e3!  
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 28, 2005, 07:39:19 AM
Yeah, how wild would an E3 launch party be?
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Avinash_Tyagi on December 28, 2005, 07:40:44 AM
While I don't believe the may launch rumor, a launch sometime in summer is somewhat possible, but likely the June-August period is the sweet spot (probably first in US or Japan, then over the next 14 weeks a WW release), enough time to mass produce enough Rev's, a few weeks after E3 so the hype is still there.

Also the reason a June-July is right is because by the time 14 weeks have passed it'll be sometime between september and november, right around the start of the holiday season so it starts maybe in japan or the states in the summer and by the time november has come it'll be out in all the markets.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Ian Sane on December 28, 2005, 08:25:23 AM
"Unless Iwata and/or Reggie is going to drop the 'By-the-way, Revolution is on it's way to retailers as I speak' bomb during the keynote of Nintendo's E3 presentation - May 2006 is not going to happen."

Ah yes.  The Sega Saturn strategy.  I would hope of all the strategies for Nintendo to rip off that would be one of the last ones they would consider.  Sega isn't third party for nothing.

This is very unlikely but Nintendo is pretty damn nuts so for all we know the Rev could be going gold.  "That makes no sense" isn't really a valid conclusion for Nintendo not doing something.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: animecyberrat on December 28, 2005, 08:37:21 AM
Ok sorry to step in aagain but the Sega Saturn was announced it would be launched in September justa  couple days before the PS1, then they stepped in and said it woud geta  limited release to select retailers five months in advance,

Announcing at e3 that the system is on its way, when no previous launch date had been set, is still different from what Sega did. Also Sega Saturn was DOA because most people who would have bought it either already wnt out and got a 32x/sega cd, OR waited for the PSX becaus eitw as cheaper and woudl have more games to play. The first year of its life Saturn OUTSOLD  playstation.

But I do think that if Nintendo is ready to launch now and is just getting games to getehr for launch, remeber a lot of GC games have been getting canceled recently anyone else think theres s connection? Maybe devs are switching thier GC projetcs over to teh Rev becuse they knwo it has a greater profit potenial since it will be a brand new system.


Anyways if you take EVRYTHING together, the Zelda delay, the Rev being very similar to make games for as GC, so many GC games getting canceled , the devs contstnly talking nothing but good about revmote, the fact that Nintendo is still proclaiming world wide release, they said Rev would laucnh around same time as competirtos, everything together points to the summer being a possibility for launch, if games are ready and if Nintendo want to make a big enough splash at E3, this would be the perfect way to do it, like a previous poster said, anounce at E3 that Revs are on thier way to stores, but do it AFTER unvailing the first wave of games, that will cause major rush to get the games and if they start marketing it like in big blockbuster movies leading up to the release they very well could build up enough hype and publicity to comletley overshadow the ps3.  
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Stimutacs Addict on December 28, 2005, 09:09:17 AM
pennnt chase shall return..
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Rhoq on December 28, 2005, 09:54:47 AM
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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
pennnt chase shall return..




This I believe.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Hawkeye_a on December 28, 2005, 12:50:13 PM
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Originally posted by: Stimutacs Addict
pennnt chase shall return..



I totally agree. It will be an amazing launch title, and the competition will have nothing like it.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: King of Twitch on December 28, 2005, 01:04:33 PM
Soon to be renamed Pennant Chase: Dinosaur Planet of course
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: ThePerm on December 28, 2005, 04:08:58 PM
pennant chase:kickass controller swing game

hmm what if it did pull a saturn(sudden ship)

What if The produced tons of revolution, in fact so much so that it filled stores. Filling up stores in large numbers is advertisement
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: odifiend on December 28, 2005, 04:30:45 PM
Bad advertisement.  There being a huge supply is not perceived a good thing.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Rhoq on December 29, 2005, 02:49:43 AM
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Originally posted by: odifiend
Bad advertisement.  There being a huge supply is not perceived a good thing.


True - They will have to produce less than what's pre-ordered and not ship any more units until after Christmas!!! It's the MS/Sony way. LOL

Seriously, of course a huge supply is a good thing. This guarantees that anyone who wants a Revolution can have one without waiting.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 29, 2005, 04:04:11 AM
That's stupid.

Yes, hype is built if you have limited supplies.  But limited supplies also means LESS sales.  You can only sale what you make.  However, you can build hype in several ways.

The best launch would have enough consoles and games produced for everyone to buy a system that wants one at launch, but not too many that you just have them sitting on shelves collecting dust.

Nintendo Revolution is in a great position to create hype and buzz without resorting to the usual tactics.  

1)Unique control device, people who love it will be spreading its praises, and even the haters will create buzz that it is a controller everyone at least has to TRY.

2)Virtual Gaming Library.  Hey, Retro gamers, here is the 100% legal way (and easy way) to collect all your favorite past games on any Nintendo system.)  This alone will create a hype.  Revolution launches with a back library of over 400 games making it the largest console launch lineup ever.  Hey if Sony tried to make those claims with the PS2, why can't Nintendo do the same with the Revolution?

3)Its true Nintendo.  Everyone thinks of Nintendo as something different and innovative.  People actually look to Nintendo for change and direction.  So I believe just the media seeing Nintendo attempt change will bring positive press, which creates hype.

Yeah, Nintendo needs to start producing their new Revolution ASAP so that we can have enough units for everyone.  And it really needs to be launched ASAP to combat Sony, and show Microsoft's big mistake.  The buzz around the Xbox 360 is already starting to die, you notice.

Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Ceric on December 29, 2005, 04:41:06 AM
I agree with Spak-Spang and everyone who says that to much product can be as bad as to little.  Like oil in a car.  All pre-orders should be filled and have a little extra given to them, think things like stickers nothing to exciting but still cool.  Then there should still be enough that every place that sells game systems will have at least 2 or 3 extra.  Then there is Walmart and the like that do no pre-orders and they have the 5 or 9 at the day of launch.  With another batch being ready to go and fill gaps by the next week.  I would also personally hold off on the Kiosk displays, lets face it they'll need room and tethers, until the day the system launches to help keep down people cutting the tethering cord and stealing the controller. (It be a novelty type thing before the console was released.)  Just my thoughts -Ceric
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 29, 2005, 04:51:13 AM
Ceric:  I know what you mean about theft of kiosks, but at the same time.  Nintendo needs to choose one vendor that they can trust to setup and maintain a good demo kiosk to allow people try before they buy.  

Either that, or Nintendo needs to create a HUGE revolution campaign bringing demo units to those Fusion Tour Parties, and to malls around America.  Letting people try the system, heck even have a prelaunch with the event where if you go there you can buy the system and a few games early or something.

Anything to create hype and buzz.

Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: UncleBob on December 29, 2005, 05:35:05 AM
> heck even have a prelaunch with the event where if you go there you can buy the system and a few games early or something.

If Nintendo did something like this (assuming that you were implying that it would be Nintendo ran and not tied in with a major retailer), it would be bad.  If a major company started selling direct, the retail stores would be pissed and slow down/stop support for that company.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 29, 2005, 05:45:52 AM
UncleBob:  Not if it was at a few small select events.  Yes, if they did that buy selling online or something that would be bad.

But if they had a limited number they were selling or giving away at a special party to preview the system it wouldn't cause a stir at all.  I am not talking anything big.  I am talking like at most 5,000 systems given or sold around America during these "Fusion Revolution" tour idea of mine.

It would help create buzz, because the people that would feel special and can brag and tell the internet and the world about their new system.

Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 29, 2005, 09:42:27 AM
Quote

Originally posted by: Rhoq

True - They will have to produce less than what's pre-ordered and not ship any more units until after Christmas!!! It's the MS/Sony/Nintendo way. LOL.


Fixed.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: animecyberrat on December 29, 2005, 04:01:54 PM
except tahst what Sega did with Satrun, the limited the pre launch to select retailers and pissed off a lot of others in the process. But selling direct woudl also be bad for them because that would push more retailers away and sqeeze them more into that Niche market they are trying to avoid.  
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Hawkeye_a on December 30, 2005, 12:45:12 AM
It would be nice to have a couple of stickers with the Nintendo logo. (Kinda like what Apple does). I'd gladly put one of the stickers next to the Apple one on my car.

Pre orders should get a "Special edition" sticker or a poster or a free download or something to that effect.
But i dont think Nintendo needs to resort to crappy marketing tactics like Sony/Microsoft, who use prerendered graphics, exagerated numbers, and purposely undersupply stores to claim a "sellout" when there wernt many to go around anywhere.

Nintendo needs to have an advertizing strategy in all territories ala the "Think Different" campaign...or even the first few DS ads. Then, team up with companies like McDonalds to promote the console with free giveaways like games, controllers,etc..... ensure logistics can deliver consoles to high demand areas (urban centers). deliver preorders on time....and have a healthy library in as many retail outlets (Walmart, Kmart, EB,  etc) as possible.

A healthy supply should be maintained to ensure those who want one get one, or they could just as easily get a PS3 or XB360 if they wanted to.

As far as marketing....KISS applies.....keep it simple stupid.

Cheers    
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: animecyberrat on December 30, 2005, 05:36:18 AM
hey thats agreat ideah, have KISS reunite for teh Revolution launch and proclaim the KISS army suports nintendo, and use their Song Psyco Circus to advertise it....


on second thought maybe not.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: kirby_killer_dedede on December 30, 2005, 08:16:50 AM
Or, you know, not.
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: stevey on December 30, 2005, 11:46:25 AM
"Pre orders should get a "Special edition" sticker"

Umm no, There are sticker in Nintendo Power and I want something cool for perordering the revo, like a golden triforce logo/color on the side of revo or a t-shrit. And nintendo is aiming at get lol of system at launch because they couldn't make enough cube and that hurt the start of the sales and its hyw, and the ds had lot of units at launch and that didn't hurt its sales/hype.  
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Ceric on December 31, 2005, 08:32:32 AM
I would love a shirt too.  The thing is to keep it simple.  The tour idea is a good thing but I think that an equal oppurtunity launch would be better.  Let the press get theirs early and have a giveway to have the Fusion tour come to your neighborhood and be the first regular citizen to own a Revolution.  That Sound the best to me.

Ok, if you can find me a place without an abused DS then they should get the Rev demo kiosk early because they are obviously watching there consoles. :-P Good Luck...

(On a side note I was probably the first person in my town to get a DS, midnight at Walmart first to get one.  Without any protection unless you look at my bottom screen just right you couldn't tell it wasn't new.  Trust me it's been played.)

-Ceric
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: nickmitch on December 31, 2005, 11:00:07 AM
The shirts should be limited edition and have something really cool on them.
It must must be known that only a true Nintendo fan would posses this shirt.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Ceric on January 01, 2006, 06:07:02 AM
Maybe something retro.  Or something nice showing you are with the "Reggie-lution" or whatever  the marketing is. (Though who would be interested in Reggie-lution shirts and like to wear to launch?)
Title: RE: Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: UncleBob on January 01, 2006, 07:31:31 AM
I hate the shirts that Nintendo always gives out.

They're never in a 2XL size... (I'm not hefty by any means, but I have broad shoulders).

Bah... Give me cool toys.  Or e-Reader cards.
Title: RE:Revolution Goes Gold?
Post by: Ceric on January 01, 2006, 07:37:30 AM
Only if they make or build in an e-Reader for Revolution.  Which ironically enough would make the buying of Game downloads on cards much much more feasibly and easier on everyone.