Post by: ThePerm on February 21, 2005, 04:59:09 AM
Post by: Bill Aurion on February 21, 2005, 05:22:12 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 21, 2005, 06:25:08 AM
I could see using grey's for facial and clothing details, and graphic effects, with Black and white being the colors for the background.
One thing you will have to be careful of is if you do black in white you are going to need extremely nice and detailed textures to bring the appearance to an eye friendly level.
Post by: couchmonkey on February 21, 2005, 11:23:40 AM
Post by: PaLaDiN on February 21, 2005, 11:33:28 AM
But a detective film noir game would be awesome with the right art and tech.
Post by: darknight06 on February 21, 2005, 12:22:59 PM
Post by: ThePerm on February 21, 2005, 04:48:05 PM
Also i was having my finger printed for my job recently...i noticed something really cool...when they finger print you they start off with one side of your finger and roll it out....it looked just like a gameskin...and i thought...hmm what if we took sections of a persons face...inked it and put it on paper...we could then stick these prints and use them for bump mapping.
Besides a Noir Game...it be cool to do a horor game too
also what i would do is i would create a sort of hyper imposed shadowing....think of how you see things regular shaded...it goes in a gray scale spectrum...think about cell shading it takes that spectrum...takes about 20 percent of that spectrum and makes it one color and the other 80 percent and makes it another.....imagine if you did regular shading...but then at the last 20 percent turned it into a sudden black in a black and white game. or perhaps 5% white 75 percent shaded 20 percent black....
http://theperm.tetrametrics.com/Misc/ModPic.jpg
i did that picture ages ago in paint brush...each face is two colors only....i think however they look really damn good.
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2005, 03:14:57 AM
After seeing your pictures I thought, why not just have flat colors. Create a world in Black and White, and use flate colors for people. This would allow that same look you desire, but also allow characters and action to standout.
Post by: KDR_11k on February 22, 2005, 06:01:09 AM
Just make sure to use 8 bit, 16 bit is awful for greyscale (look at PN03 for an example of the artifacts created by 16 bit).
Post by: vudu on February 22, 2005, 07:48:38 AM
Post by: ThePerm on February 22, 2005, 08:26:12 AM
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2005, 08:45:17 AM
And in elementary school I had a friend whose parents wouldn't let him hook his NES to the living room TV so we had to play it downstairs on their black & white TV. It was like playing the Gameboy on the TV years before the the Super Gameboy. It actually improved the graphics somewhat I felt.I like the idea of black & white game. That could be a really cool effect though I think it likely woudn't sell all that well unfortunately. Now do you have any solid ideas for the gameplay? A neat graphic effect doesn't mean much if the game isn't too hot. If I want that I'll play XIII. Think up some solid gameplay ideas and then build the graphics around it. If you think "graphics first" the gameplay is going to be hurt.
Personally I think a graphic adventure like the classic Lucasarts SCUMM games could work really well with a detective approach. If you're already going with an arty graphic style that will limit the game to niche appeal why not use a genre that has niche appeal? Those who still appreciate a graphic adventure will appreciate intentional black & white visuals.
Post by: vudu on February 22, 2005, 10:13:12 AM
Post by: darknight06 on February 22, 2005, 11:29:12 AM
Game Boy pocket? Cuz otherwise I remember it being 4 shades of luscious green.
Post by: Ian Sane on February 22, 2005, 11:39:26 AM
Post by: ThePerm on February 22, 2005, 07:34:35 PM
Also, i want a game that takes advantage of the microphone...imagine a game where you ask an npc a question verbally...and through his ai skills ala seaman he answers your question. Also imagine giving certain characters commands like "hey lets go to the store" and they come with you.
Post by: The Omen on February 25, 2005, 04:51:41 PM
Post by: ThePerm on December 14, 2005, 08:07:32 PM
Post by: Kairon on December 14, 2005, 08:22:18 PM
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Post by: IceCold on December 14, 2005, 08:45:50 PM
Post by: MysticGohan24 on December 14, 2005, 09:35:24 PM
Post by: Ceric on December 23, 2005, 06:54:06 AM
With Black and White they give all the implication of what they want you to see but it's up to you to fill in the color. Sort of like we all know that if Link or Mario talked they wouldn't be the kick- characters that they are. There are very few games where the voice acting actually helps when there is a text box. In fact I find that most of the time the expressions that are shown in the little portrait detract too. Though the emoticon system used in Golden Sun was great.
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 23, 2005, 09:13:12 AM
My only problem I had was designing an engine that would allow for hiding. Perhaps something that allows you to blend character models together when they are hiding or something.
Anyway, a limited color palate would probably lend itself better to this design, so that you can easily have characters blend in and hide.
Post by: ThePerm on April 12, 2006, 01:22:13 PM
Post by: Kairon on April 12, 2006, 01:58:07 PM
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: wandering on April 16, 2006, 10:31:54 PM
Oh, Bill Watterson, good, yes.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 17, 2006, 05:04:22 PM
Yeah. Looking forward to seeing more on Sadness.
