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« Reply #225 on: April 21, 2020, 08:15:27 PM »
On the other side of that, some States have been closed for 3 weeks or so now.  Many small business owners can't really afford to be closed that long.  And many more employees can't be without a job for that long.  The stimulus checks are barely enough to cover needs for 1 month is pathetic, so I can see the desire to open early. 

Add to that some of the countries that are doing really well in this Crisis didn't shut everything down.  I know South Korea didn't...the government advised some business to shut down and many did, but it was like for a week.  If you allow businesses to be shut down for longer than 2 months, then the only businesses left will be corporations, and not the small business corporations, but the big large ones that people don't want to gain even more power. 

I don't know what the answer is, because it seems like Americans are being foolish and stupid when they go out.  Not wearing any kind of face masks, and American healthcare leaves so much to be desired that I understand not going to the doctor and just risk being sick, because of costs...so I get why having longer shut downs is important.   

And yeah it does eventually come down to the dollar and money, and that is life unfortunately...because the only people that can truly afford a long shutdown are the wealthiest and they aren't suffering through this.  This isn't to say I am for reopening, I just understand why people are moving quickly to try to reopen things. 

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« Reply #226 on: April 21, 2020, 08:32:37 PM »
The country to watch in all this is Sweden. They gambled on keeping everything open through the 1st wave, planning on a larger sick & death toll early on compared to their neighbors in exchange for significantly lessened 2nd and 3rd waves due to herd immunity, all while not crushing their economy in the process.
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« Reply #227 on: April 22, 2020, 02:04:19 AM »
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unless we are also able to quarantine entire zones, like regional areas, then it just sets the entire effort back by weeks. That's nearly impossible to police, so the only real effective effort is to massively increase testing and everyone quarantine (at the same exact time) for 45-60 days.

since that's already been fucked up.... we are really just dragging this on at it's highest level for much longer than I think it probably would've been needed otherwise.

But good luck to all those out there really trying their best to distance and mask and protect their loved ones from having any direct consequences from this whole situation.

and on a side note.... opening the restaurants is kinds stupid considering you can't wear mask while eating and drinking, and everyone sitting in the same rooms inches to feet apart from each other in this situation doesn't make sense. Especially since most restaurants are still open an doing business well enough with takeout and delivery options. This will also likely endanger the people just coming in for togo orders and the workers in the restaurants as well as the airborne virus just settles on any and everything in the restaurant because everyone is just in there breathing and talking in close and closed quarters.

and all those poor healthcare workers that's gonna have to deal with this influx of people that just couldn't resist.

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« Reply #228 on: April 22, 2020, 02:37:13 PM »
Also playing Fortnight or any other hobbies is good so you can take care of your mental health if that does it for you.  Really any distraction or creative thing you are doing at leasts gives you something you are doing which is not directly tied to COVID-19.   

It's making me mad a lot too though, because these rando squadmates are dumb as heck, or have no mics, or are children. So what do I do
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« Reply #229 on: April 22, 2020, 03:05:40 PM »
A co-worker of mine is taking this all very hard.  Our manager tries to be optimistic but I think it's clear that he doesn't really know what to say to her and neither do I.  How do I explain how I'm also afraid and worried but am still able to carry on with my day-to-day life the best I can and not suffer a nervous breakdown?  She expresses her concerns and feelings about the situation and I agree and sympathize with all of it but she's an emotional wreck and I'm not.  I'm not criticizing her or bragging about myself; I would like to say "I do this" to help her and I can't because I don't think I'm doing anything right nor is she doing anything wrong.  This just affects her emotionally a lot more than it does me and that's just how it is and that sucks.

The brother that I live with works an essential service and his job can't be done from home.  So during all of this he's been out in the world a lot more than the rest of our family.  He has observed the traffic go from virtually empty roads to essentially the same congestion it was before.  He drives through Vancouver and sees people walking down every sidewalk and waiting at every crosswalk and it no longer looks like the ghost town it was weeks ago.  The rest of my family is starting to get very impatient with this social distancing thing and they want to see each other again in person.  My brother observing more and more people abandoning social distancing is becoming less concerned about it and talking more about when he will also stop observing it.

This is the problem with the re-opening situation.  When people see other people not following a guideline they will naturally think "everyone else is doing it, so I should be fine."  The more people defy stay-at-home orders the more other people will observe them and presume that it should be okay for them as well.  Like the early ones are more the "**** this" selfish people that are just doing to do whatever they want but the later ones are more people making their decision based on what they see and are assuming from others' behaviour that it must be okay to socially interact again.

My attitude is very much that you let other people jump in the pool first and I've expressed that with my family and they're quite agreeable with that.  So I think I can keep them from jumping the gun and risking infection until we've seen others do it first and see if the infection rates go up.  I don't think the rest of them would agree to get together without me if I refused to.  Well that's how I feel now.  Months from now this sort of thing might be causing rifts between families and friends.

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« Reply #230 on: April 22, 2020, 04:47:53 PM »
Also playing Fortnight or any other hobbies is good so you can take care of your mental health if that does it for you.  Really any distraction or creative thing you are doing at leasts gives you something you are doing which is not directly tied to COVID-19.   

It's making me mad a lot too though, because these rando squadmates are dumb as heck, or have no mics, or are children. So what do I do
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« Reply #231 on: April 22, 2020, 05:40:27 PM »
Just dropping some quick tidbits....

Doctors recommend against using Hydroxycloroquine / higher deathrate for Covid combo
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/u-s-virus-treatment-guidelines-reject-trump-backed-drug-combo

A Doctor that questioned the use of Hydroxycloroquine was removed from post for questioning it....
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/us/coronavirus-live-coverage.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage#link-652aa9c3

and if we needed more evidence that states this isn't just the Flu and that Mother Nature is actually out to kill us all (and those ignoring the threat because $$economy$$ are high risk)....

Coronavirus is causing mysterious bloodclot issue that is resulting in more deaths.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/22/coronavirus-blood-clots/

WTF is up with this damn virus, and why is 2020 the worst?
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« Reply #232 on: April 22, 2020, 06:00:14 PM »
You don't want me getting into why 2020 is the worst. 

Anyway our mayor in Phoenix she has spent 27 million on homelessness and housing support to help folks affected by COVID-19.  Homelessness was already a problem here is Phoenix and she was fighting that but now it becomes more important than ever to help the homeless.

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/local/phoenix/2020/04/22/hotels-affordable-housing-and-more-how-phoenix-support-homeless-population/5168962002/
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« Reply #233 on: April 22, 2020, 09:03:45 PM »
The novel corona virus has mutated into 30 different strains. Link.

I'm no expert, but I think that's a lot.
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« Reply #234 on: April 22, 2020, 09:12:15 PM »
The novel corona virus has mutated into 30 different strains. Link.

I'm no expert, but I think that's a lot.

In other words, there's probably never going to be a vaccine unless some strains die off, because there are just too many to account for. It's like trying to make a vaccine for the Flu: we try to focus on 1 or 2 of the more common strains every year with the annual vaccine, but it's still no guarantee because the virus mutates so frequently.
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« Reply #235 on: April 22, 2020, 09:18:32 PM »
The novel corona virus has mutated into 30 different strains. Link.

I'm no expert, but I think that's a lot.

Mother Nature with the contingency plan. She ain't playin'.

we are so fucked. LOLOLOL

Is it too late to go get that TB shot?
I hear that at least preps the body and makes Corona less than lethal.

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« Reply #236 on: April 23, 2020, 06:27:33 AM »
I absolutely don't believe that people are capable of sheltering in place for anything like 9 months to a year for something as invisible as this. It'd have to be a danger that's ultra visible, like a war, to make people be that compliant. At such long timetables I not only expect most people to get too antsy to over best practices about such an invisible threat, but also I don't think our society (including the economy) wouldn't function.

People breaking shelter in place NOW though after what amounts to a month and a half in some places and just weeks in others is ridiculous, we really ought to be made of sterner stuff in general than to crack this quickly. (Understandably some people have it much worse than others in shelter-at-home situations, but I do know in CA we've always been allowed to go out, just with masks and maintaining social distancing).

We really need more testing, tracing, and public health tracking of this virus and those infected so we can make decisions based on data instead of emotion, and so when we reopen we truly know what percentage of the public might have it, and so we can detect if things are getting bad again so we can close up again.

People will need hope that things will get better, and that hope should be built on and around good data and good plans to act on that data.
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« Reply #237 on: April 23, 2020, 06:52:37 AM »
The novel corona virus has mutated into 30 different strains. Link.

I'm no expert, but I think that's a lot.

In other words, there's probably never going to be a vaccine unless some strains die off, because there are just too many to account for. It's like trying to make a vaccine for the Flu: we try to focus on 1 or 2 of the more common strains every year with the annual vaccine, but it's still no guarantee because the virus mutates so frequently.

There's probably way more nuance in vaccine making than just the number of distinct strains we catalog. For example, I just looked it up and Influenza A has over 100 strains known (and that's not even counting the B and C subtypes). If we could magically whip up a vaccine this year for coronavirus that was as effective as our current Flu Vaccines, that'd be a total win.

Instead of being worried about a mutating virus making vaccines tough (and ALL viruses mutate, some faster some slower, but they ALL do so this isn't a real surprise), be concerned at how complex it is to create a vaccine. Scientists have to find the right biochemical proteins or microcellular structures to target or imitate, and our bodies need to respond in effective ways. This is easier said than done.

We got lucky with vaccines for polio and smallpox. BUT, consider that we don't really have a vaccine for HIV yet 40 years or so after it emerged on the world stage.

I think we have a good shot at developing a succesful vaccine, but I even optimistically I'd expect it next year at the earliest. Not because Coronavirus is some sort of super mutating thing but because I think vaccines are just that complicated and serious to begin with.
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« Reply #238 on: April 23, 2020, 09:42:36 AM »
Good Luck Las Vegas (and Southern Nevada)

LV Mayor offers up city a "control group" for virus. Suggesting that Las Vegas will be the "Placebo" in the study, and then attempting to "correct" Anderson Cooper ("don't put words in my mouth") before confirming exactly what he just asked.

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253041723510587394?s=20

Quick Paraphrase:
AC: So you want the Casino's open?

LV Mayor: That's not what I said..... don't put words in my mouth. I want the hotels open, and the restaurants open... I want these people back to work

AC: well, they're not coming to Hotel's and restaurants without the casino's... so you want the casino's open?

LVM: Well, that's part of it. But we also have sports....

AC: So are you gonna be out on these casino floors with all these people?

LVM: No, I have a family at home


And then when asked about the national impact such decision would make, she basically says "not my problem"
https://twitter.com/TPMLiveWire/status/1253059829469458436?s=20

AC: So you're encouraging 100's of 1000's of people from all over the country to come to Vegas and gamble in the casinos, touching slot machines, gather at shows and restaurants, breathing recycled air, and then essentially return home to their own states in their own town to their own homes and families.... I get the economic suffering people are experiencing right now, but doesn't that sound like a virus petri dish!?

LVM: Sounds like you're being an alarmist

AC: "!?alarmist?" How do you expect the casinos to prevent the spread of the virus if they all open up?

LVM: That's for them to figure out, I don't own a casino.....

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/las-vegas-mayors-interview-with-anderson-cooper-was-a-spectacular-train-wreck

But her lack of concern over public health, over the life of her constituents continues....
I don't want to summarize every point here, but she then goes on to say
 
LVM: "if business then fail because the virus spread, that's the free market at work, and businesses need to figure it out... not my problem."

also LVM: "We also don't need more testing, you're all being crazy.... just take a shower. "

winning Quote? (context: AC explaining how a virus could spread if LV is reopened)
LVM: This isn't China, this is Las Vegas, Nevada!!!

AC: ....wow, that's ignorant.


So good luck LV, and I can't speak for other states, but I'm sure if you leave Cali and go to Vegas, I'm hoping you will return to a mandatory 14 day quarantine in a special facility (like a repurposed cruise ship). So better make it worth it.
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« Reply #239 on: April 23, 2020, 11:58:47 AM »
Las Vegas relies a lot on tourism so it will get hit by the economic effects of the lockdown especially hard.  So the mayor is giving off the same vibes as the mayor in Jaws, who knew that closing off tourism would bankrupt his town.

But even if we ignore how callous and outright DUMB she sounds her plan doesn't even make sense.  The Las Vegas strip doesn't make its money from locals going to the casinos, it makes it from people coming in from out-of-town.  How many people are going to go there during this pandemic?  How many flights are even coming in to Vegas right now and you know that no international tourists are coming in, because they probably aren't even allowed to.  So it isn't going to do anything to reopen them other than risk the health of the employees.

There's two parts to this.  You can open your store but you also need enough customers that are comfortable going there to get back to the revenue you were at before.  There was a poll done with Vancouver small business owners and 40% of them (which just makes me want to cry) are concerned that they won't be able to stay in business even after re-opening because they know that enough people will be concerned about returning to crowded public places that they won't be doing enough business quickly enough.  It isn't like you re-open and everyone is going to just go back to their old routine overnight.  Some people will but not everyone, it will roll out as people get more comfortable.

Local economies serving local customers will be what opens first.  Tourism based business and crowd-based business like concerts and sporting events are going to be last.  The ideal control group isn't Las Vegas, it's a small town or area reopening non-essential businesses to their local community.

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« Reply #240 on: April 23, 2020, 05:23:23 PM »
The novel corona virus has mutated into 30 different strains. Link.

I'm no expert, but I think that's a lot.

In other words, there's probably never going to be a vaccine unless some strains die off, because there are just too many to account for. It's like trying to make a vaccine for the Flu: we try to focus on 1 or 2 of the more common strains every year with the annual vaccine, but it's still no guarantee because the virus mutates so frequently.

Well, it's 3-4 strains, but I question what the upper limit of strains a vaccine can protect from is.  For the Flu, there's bound to be the 1 or 2 going around that might spread, but with so many variations, it's only a bit better than a crapshoot.  I suspect the number is so low due to cost, but practically speaking, you couldn't make a 100-variant vaccine.  But is the max 5? 10? 20?  Could we cover enough of the corona strains to be effectively immune? Is that even feasible?  Or could there just be 5 versions of the vaccine that you need to get every two weeks?  I don't wanna give up hope on a vaccine, but it's tough.


Instead of being worried about a mutating virus making vaccines tough (and ALL viruses mutate, some faster some slower, but they ALL do so this isn't a real surprise), be concerned at how complex it is to create a vaccine. Scientists have to find the right biochemical proteins or microcellular structures to target or imitate, and our bodies need to respond in effective ways. This is easier said than done.

We got lucky with vaccines for polio and smallpox. BUT, consider that we don't really have a vaccine for HIV yet 40 years or so after it emerged on the world stage.

I think we have a good shot at developing a succesful vaccine, but I even optimistically I'd expect it next year at the earliest. Not because Coronavirus is some sort of super mutating thing but because I think vaccines are just that complicated and serious to begin with.

I think the nature of HIV is what makes a vaccine so difficult.  But you're right, either way it's gonna take time.  Plus, there's experts to deal with these difficulties.
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« Reply #241 on: April 23, 2020, 05:27:30 PM »
A co-worker of mine is taking this all very hard.  Our manager tries to be optimistic but I think it's clear that he doesn't really know what to say to her and neither do I.  How do I explain how I'm also afraid and worried but am still able to carry on with my day-to-day life the best I can and not suffer a nervous breakdown?  She expresses her concerns and feelings about the situation and I agree and sympathize with all of it but she's an emotional wreck and I'm not.  I'm not criticizing her or bragging about myself; I would like to say "I do this" to help her and I can't because I don't think I'm doing anything right nor is she doing anything wrong.  This just affects her emotionally a lot more than it does me and that's just how it is and that sucks.

Ian, that's a tough boat to be in.  I've been relatively calm about the whole thing since I have work to focus on.  The toughest part for me has just been feeling stuck inside with limited human interaction for so long.

I don't know how you can convince her to not panic or feel anxious, but hopefully your co-worker can take solace in the fact that she's probably doing everything she can at the moment by practicing social distancing, and that that's enough.
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« Reply #242 on: April 23, 2020, 05:56:28 PM »
Incidentally, since I mentioned her earlier in this thread, just FYI my "Aunt" Nancy has recovered from the virus, despite her poor health of late making her an extremely at-risk patient. I just spoke with her the other day. Unfortunately, in the midst of all this she also lost her nursing job with the medical research company she worked for, so...1 step forward, 2 steps back.
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« Reply #243 on: April 24, 2020, 05:00:23 AM »
Incidentally, since I mentioned her earlier in this thread, just FYI my "Aunt" Nancy has recovered from the virus, despite her poor health of late making her an extremely at-risk patient. I just spoke with her the other day. Unfortunately, in the midst of all this she also lost her nursing job with the medical research company she worked for, so...1 step forward, 2 steps back.
I am happy she recovered but it is a pain that she lost her job.  Is she able to get unemployment? 

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« Reply #244 on: April 24, 2020, 05:05:32 AM »
I don't know how much people are thinking about the prison system right now but that is one area which is likely to have high infected rates because of the lack of social distancing.  The prisons here in Arizona have a dormatory style prison so there is folks in the cell together and not single cell so social distancing isn't even possible.

There was an article on the prison infection rate and it is very likely going to have a 99% infection rate.

https://kjzz.org/content/1541266/correctional-model-predicts-99-covid-19-infection-rate-arizona-prisons

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« Reply #245 on: April 24, 2020, 07:10:41 AM »
Incidentally, since I mentioned her earlier in this thread, just FYI my "Aunt" Nancy has recovered from the virus, despite her poor health of late making her an extremely at-risk patient. I just spoke with her the other day. Unfortunately, in the midst of all this she also lost her nursing job with the medical research company she worked for, so...1 step forward, 2 steps back.
I am happy she recovered but it is a pain that she lost her job.  Is she able to get unemployment?

Probably? I'm not familiar with the unemployment laws in Utah.
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« Reply #246 on: April 24, 2020, 07:14:45 AM »
I don't know how much people are thinking about the prison system right now but that is one area which is likely to have high infected rates because of the lack of social distancing.  The prisons here in Arizona have a dormatory style prison so there is folks in the cell together and not single cell so social distancing isn't even possible.

There was an article on the prison infection rate and it is very likely going to have a 99% infection rate.

https://kjzz.org/content/1541266/correctional-model-predicts-99-covid-19-infection-rate-arizona-prisons

Yeah, I'm not terribly concerned with the health of prisoners, especially with governors releasing so many of them into the general populace these days & driving up the crime rate. There are only so many people I can give a damn about in all this, and I don't think it's unfair to have criminals not make the list, especially since the virus has a high survival rate.
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« Reply #247 on: April 24, 2020, 04:44:40 PM »
If they would separate the new inmates from the person existing inmates, i don't see why they would have a problem at all....

But of course, I've never been in the prison system, so maybe that's not feasible without a solid federal mandate to coordinate such an effort if it requires transfers and relocations.

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« Reply #248 on: April 24, 2020, 05:05:17 PM »
If they would separate the new inmates from the person existing inmates, i don't see why they would have a problem at all....

But of course, I've never been in the prison system, so maybe that's not feasible without a solid federal mandate to coordinate such an effort if it requires transfers and relocations.

Just sayin', California's releasing convicted murderers onto the streets because of this virus along with people awaiting trial & sentencing. Old murderers, to be sure (and they claim that at least some of these were started before the viral outbreak), but murderers nonetheless.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/california-gov-newsom-commutes-sentences-21-including-killers-n1170976

There's no practical way to separate the inmates. There are just too many people committing crimes leading to an overburdened prison system.
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« Reply #249 on: April 24, 2020, 05:34:06 PM »
Incidentally, since I mentioned her earlier in this thread, just FYI my "Aunt" Nancy has recovered from the virus, despite her poor health of late making her an extremely at-risk patient. I just spoke with her the other day. Unfortunately, in the midst of all this she also lost her nursing job with the medical research company she worked for, so...1 step forward, 2 steps back.

That's good to hear that she's recovered. Sometimes I feel like these days are just about tackling one problem at a time, and health and safety is definitely at the top of that list, though it's exhausting that the list of other crises only ever seems to get longer.

It sucks to hear that she lost her job though. I hope she can get unemployment insurance benefits relatively easily. I'd like to think that Utah has a good system in place, (California's UI system seems to be handling the increased load well, my mom filed here some weeks ago and there have been no problems) I'm just reminded of reports where people in certain other specific states are finding that they have to wrestle with the system to get their benefits.
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