EXCLUSIVE: Things have come to a standstill at Sony today, after the computers in New York and around the world were infiltrated by a hacker. As a precaution, computers in Los Angeles were shut down while the corporation deals with the breach. It has basically brought the whole global corporation to an electronic standstill. I’d heard that this began with a skull appearing on screens, and then a strangely ominous message telling users they’d been hacked by something called #GOP. It gets more bizarre as the message claims this is just the beginning and then threatens to release documents by 11 PM this evening. There is no reason given why this is happening, and no specific demands. Mentioned are websites in places around the world, some of which don’t even function. While Sony works this through, there are no corporate emails going in and out and you can’t use your computer and it’s hit or miss on whether calls are going to email. “We are down, completely paralyzed,” said a source. Waiting on reaction from Sony, but if you’re not getting your calls or emails returned from Culver City, don’t take it as an insult or reason to feel small. No comment from the studio.
Deadline is in 35 minutes. Reddit is breaking down what's at the links provided. passwords, financial details and other random stuff, but no concrete details just yet.
No word on what the demands were, but I'm gonna say what everyone is (or should be) thinking: Demand #1 - Stop Ruining Spider-man! Returned Spidey to Marvel/Disney ASAP.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on November 24, 2014, 06:53:10 PM
What happened?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on November 24, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
I think the Republican party hacked the PlayStation network because Obama. I'm really not sure.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 24, 2014, 07:18:36 PM
This type of thing is awful...and quite scary. Whatever the demands, I hope nobody gives into them.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Khushrenada on November 24, 2014, 07:42:09 PM
The news blurb you linked states the following: "It gets more bizarre as the message claims this is just the beginning and then threatens to release documents by 11 PM this evening. There is no reason given why this is happening, and no specific demands." Yet, the hacker's message states: We've already warned you and this is just a beginning. We will continue until our request be met." So, it would seem that this may have been done on a smaller scale or that higher-ups know more about it and are keeping the details of it all hush-hush. Unless of course these people are just making stuff up. It is all very strange.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Triforce Hermit on November 24, 2014, 08:06:49 PM
Whoever this hacker is never took a grammar class. "this is just a beginning" "We continue till our request be met"
I'll guess that the new documents are. Something, something, NSA. Something, something, money.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: pokepal148 on November 24, 2014, 08:50:17 PM
Whoever this hacker is never took a grammar class. "this is just a beginning" "We continue till our request be met"
Well I would expect such from a hacker that doesn't know that "GOP" is already taken and doesn't come across as particularly threatening or intimidating. Apparently a rejected first choice for their name was WASP (stinging insects are fucking bad ass, dude!) but they didn't want to be associated with that heavy metal band.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on November 25, 2014, 02:01:28 PM
Or with White Anglo-Saxon Protestant.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on November 25, 2014, 02:09:52 PM
On the forum home page, the title of this thread showed only "Breaking News: Sony..." I thought the rest was going to read "...sells Spider-Man film rights back to Marvel" since BlackNMild's Marvel thread tends to get he most traffic and responses in General Chat.
This is far less interesting. I'm responsible for my extreme disappointment.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 25, 2014, 02:54:01 PM
"Breaking News: Sony...has now sold 4,000 PlayStation Vitas in North America."
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Triforce Hermit on November 25, 2014, 03:16:18 PM
I'm pretty sure that it has something to do with the Vita. There was something about they are refunding Vita owners who bought before 2012 or something. They lied about one of its "game-changing features".
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 25, 2014, 03:20:31 PM
Yeah, they dramatically overstated the ability for connectivity between Vita and PS3. Well, I guess not so much the ability as how widespread it would be.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 25, 2014, 03:52:13 PM
I take it no one has heard if the "demands" were met, or if the financials and/or inner corporate dealings were leaked?
There was something on Reddit about a MS security hole that could have been exploited prior to patch that would give them root access, which is how they were able to take over every computer at the site. I'm not really familiar with how to navigate Reddit, or the legitimacy of the claim, but they claimed that the financial docs alone would be devastating to the company, and some of the password docs are really stupid as the password to access them are in the name of the file...
Sound like Sony was very relaxed about security updates, protocol and actual security. looks like someone people will be looking for new jobs pretty soon.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on November 25, 2014, 04:49:08 PM
They released two ZIP files and a readme. The readme contained information to contact GOP if they wanted the real files. And here's what that means...
Inside the two zip files are text documents named List1 and List2. In these documents are the names of the files GOP likely stole and it's a lot. The size of one of the text files is 600 mb and the other is 1 gb, so you can imagine if these lists only contain the name of the files just how many files they took. A **** TON.
Now since those texts are so large, few people have the ability to even open them entirely and instead open them by line. But some have skimmed through them, and so far they mention everything from security and passwords, to financial documents and scripts. The GOP ransacked everything they could get their hands on, and it appears that they had access to everything.
And if you want those files, they are willing to send you them.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 25, 2014, 05:27:06 PM
yeah, all that I know. I'm wondering if anyone has verified that the info is real by actually seeing it, and what that really means for Sony as a company.
They say the financials leak could be devastating, but has anything come of it yet? I doubt any legal action could come Sony's way because of it as the information would be gained illegally... but I imagine some partners may want to reneg on deals once they see how accounting practices have actually been handled.
I'm just wondering what effects this whole thing has on Sony, and what all the information means, if it's actually made it's way into the wild.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on November 25, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
Well for one, people are pretty wary of asking GOP for the files.
Two, people who do get the files probably won't post about it immediately or at all for their sake.
Three, give it time. This is a massive dump of info.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 25, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
None of the information will make into the wild, unless somebody like wikileaks posts it...or a site like 4chan...or people are not afraid to reveal information...or think they are safe to what they want.
That is what makes this demand really crazy. Sony can't possibly give in, because the data the person has collected never goes away. You give in once and you have to continue. The hacker has leverage, but can't capitalize on it. Sony can't ever trust that the payoff will be respected.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2014, 01:47:43 PM
4 unreleased movies (DVD quality) leaked to torrent sites: Fury, Annie, Mr. Turner, and Still Alice http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/30/7309375/dvd-rips-of-fury-annie-mr-turner-and-still-alice-hit-the-web (http://www.theverge.com/2014/11/30/7309375/dvd-rips-of-fury-annie-mr-turner-and-still-alice-hit-the-web)
not sure if this is related to the hack... but timing is probably not just a coincidence, even if Oscar season is coming up. Only Fury has been released to theaters. The other 3 have not seen release of any kind yet.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on November 30, 2014, 02:48:22 PM
Ouch.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2014, 03:22:47 PM
and I just saw this on Reddit:
Quote from: yesterday
Earlier today the GOP released a 1.15GB subset of the files to select emails of media correspondents. The file list can be found here. http://pastebin.com/8HbbUSkr They said they have 'tens of TBs of data' and they will release it as soon as feasible. It sounds like they may be having trouble managing the scale of the release.
lots of personal employee info, corporate financial info, and generally anything that was stored on a corporate computer.... like nude photos of Vanessa Hudgens. yes, that was also in the file list.
Sony Pictures could be kinda screwed if lots of that financial stuff makes it out into the wild. could make them ripe for a Disney buyout ;) just to strip them of SM and maybe JB and sell them off again.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 30, 2014, 03:23:46 PM
Should have done it at the beginning of the weekend...
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2014, 04:08:06 PM
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 30, 2014, 06:56:18 PM
I had no clue that they could have got full movies. That is kinda a game changer. If Sony has been waiting to release movies and all the big releases launched on the internet 2-3 months before releasing in the theater...that could significantly hurt Sony's profits and movies in general.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: pokepal148 on November 30, 2014, 09:20:03 PM
Breaking news: sony has now sold a total of 3 Vita TV's in North America
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2014, 01:13:46 AM
Sony Pictures Exec Salaries leaked by #GOP http://deadline.com/2014/12/sony-hacker-executive-salaries-michael-lynton-amy-pascal-1201305434/
I wonder what kind of drama this will drum up in the office building. Generally people aren't supposed to know what each other make. Some people might be demanding raises now, but surely many headaches will be caused by all this.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 02, 2014, 01:17:20 AM
I'd be more concerned with other studios using this information to poach talent.
I wonder what the deal is with those two folks making $.04. That's weird.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 02, 2014, 01:34:00 AM
Apparently you get a $0.04/yr raise after 17 years.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2014, 01:47:09 AM
I'd be more concerned with other studios using this information to poach talent.
That's kinda what I mean by asking for raises. another studio might see an opportunity to snatch and make an offer. that person then request a raise as he knows someone else is willing to pay more. ...or they could be pissed because Dumbass in the office down the hall makes $0.04 cents more than him or the other way around and they are mad that they only make $0.04 cents more than that dumbass down the hall, and that's unacceptable.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 02:14:45 PM
We already knew that the Sony Pictures hack was bad, but this is just absurd. BuzzFeed's discoveries include documents detailing "employee criminal background checks, salary negotiations, and doctors' letters explaining the medical rationale for leaves of absence." They also include "the script for an unreleased pilot written by Breaking Bad creator Vince Gilligan to the results of sales meetings with local TV executives." Better call Saul.
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Sony Pictures suffered a pretty devastating hack last week. In fact, according to documents recently leaked on the web, it looks like Sony Pictures might've just suffered one of the worst corporate hacks in history. Salary numbers, layoff strategies, personal details of laid off staffers, and some 3,800 Social Security numbers are now out in the open.
this is terrible.... Sony should be ashamed that even after the PSN hack they didn't take a company wide initiative to shore up their defenses and secure themselves of such a thing happening again.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 03, 2014, 05:08:17 PM
Terrible, but pretty funny.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 05:43:39 PM
so damn embarrassing.... http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomgara/sony-hack (http://www.buzzfeed.com/tomgara/sony-hack)
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In the days after the April 2011 breach, Sony enlisted three independent computer security and forensic consulting firms to assess its security infrastructure and identify the culprit of the hack, according to a letter from Sony to members of Congress. In the letter, Sony defended its decision to wait five days to admit its security had been compromised and called on the government to help make the internet safer. “We ask the Committee to consider as well the connection between data security and the cybercrimes and cyber terrorism that threaten to make the Internet unsafe for consumers and commerce,” the letter read.
Years after that hack, Sony Pictures still seems to have a long way to go. One of the files leaked this weekend was a Word document titled “Passwords” that contained an executive’s computer, LotusNotes, and American Express usernames and passwords, as well as Amex credit card numbers, expiration dates, and four-digit security codes.
In the days after the April 2011 breach, Sony enlisted three independent computer security and forensic consulting firms to assess its security infrastructure and identify the culprit of the hack, according to a letter from Sony to members of Congress. In the letter, Sony defended its decision to wait five days to admit its security had been compromised and called on the government to help make the internet safer. “We ask the Committee to consider as well the connection between data security and the cybercrimes and cyber terrorism that threaten to make the Internet unsafe for consumers and commerce,” the letter read.
and here's where it gets kinda funny
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Sony Pictures employees now face the grim prospect of extremely personal information bouncing around the internet forever. The documents lifted from company servers include email exchanges with employees regarding specific medical treatments they are undergoing, while one disciplinary letter details a manager’s romantic relationship and business travel history with a subordinate. None of the names on any of the files is redacted. In some cases, extensive stores of personal employee files — documents that have nothing to do with Sony corporate business — were included in the breach. One document swept up in the hack outlines the breastfeeding diet of a senior executive.
no names withheld either. everyone will have to live this shame down. I'm sure corporate lawyers won't be the only kind involved in all this mess. A few divorce lawyers may be getting in on this frenzy of "Top Secrets" being revealed.
edit: here is more info from the leak http://gawker.com/sony-hack-reveals-25-page-list-of-reasons-it-sucks-to-w-1666264634 Random Employee Complaints. Apparently the general public isn't the only ones sick of Adam Sandler and the **** he creates..
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 03, 2014, 06:54:40 PM
Somebody need to leak the demands of the pirates.
They can never be met, but if I was the pirate, I would release some silly demands that seem trivial to get public perception even more on our side, and make it look like they are fighting a noble fight. Even something as silly as forcing Sony to share 100% movie rights with Marvel.
Or not release the North Korean movie...or something.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 07:23:30 PM
or going by that "anonymous employee suggestion/complaint" list
Demand #1: Stop making Adam Sandler movie.
this has to be an inside job of some sort right? How do you steal over 100TB's of data remotely from who knows where, and then have time to comb though it and announce it to the company themselves before IT was even aware that they were hacked? It makes no sense to me.
Can you dump 100TB of data that quick, or do you think they got some backdoor that allowed them to seep it all slowly over the last few weeks or what?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on December 03, 2014, 08:40:18 PM
Any data worth stealing should be properly organized.
Plus, they probably just torrented the whole thing.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
they torrented the whole thing from the Sony servers? after zipping it up all nice and neat.... and no one noticed till their computers where completely taken over announcing that it had been done?
well, then I have to hand it to the hackers. They have made history by finding Sony's Giant Enemy Crab and hitting it's weak spot for MASSIVE DAMAGE. Bravo.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on December 03, 2014, 11:27:36 PM
It was probably saved as a backup.
I'm still waiting on the nudes to leak.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 11:54:51 PM
nudes? you mean like the casting couch vids?
If they leak, I will let you know ;)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 04, 2014, 12:16:24 AM
A hundred terabytes is a lot of information, but I don't think it would take too long to download. Another way to look at is like this...it's roughly 100,000 gb. If I split that amongst different systems I grant access (let's say 20), each system is responsible for downloading 500 gb. If I, your average joe, can download a 40gb file in a couple hours on a shitty ISP plan, then surely each system could download 500gb in half a day.
Then again, what the **** do I know?
I hope it was an inside job.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2014, 12:21:18 AM
w/o IT noticing though?
that's what I don't get. Was there no one on duty? was their security and firewall literally the asbestos packed room they keep the servers in with a guard standing outside the door?
pathetic. Or maybe I just don't understand how hacking and draining an entire tech companies servers of valuable and private information works.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 04, 2014, 12:31:57 AM
That would make one interesting article.
Or TED talk.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 04, 2014, 12:40:30 AM
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Need to improve the creative staff in Motion Pictures. Seems like we just reboot old product instead of coming up with new ideas like the Hunger Games.
Need to improve the creative staff in Motion Pictures. Seems like we just reboot old product instead of coming up with new ideas like the Hunger Games.
Removing Sony Pictures on earth is a very tiny work for our group which is a worldwide organization. And what we have done so far is only a small part of our further plan. It’s your false if you think this crisis will be over after some time. All hope will leave you and Sony Pictures will collapse. This situation is only due to Sony Pictures. Sony Pictures is responsible for whatever the result is. Sony Pictures clings to what is good to nobody from the beginning. It’s silly to expect in Sony Pictures to take off us. Sony Pictures makes only useless efforts. One beside you can be our member.
Many things beyond imagination will happen at many places of the world. Our agents find themselves act in necessary places. Please sign your name to object the false of the company at the email address below if you don’t want to suffer damage. If you don’t, not only you but your family will be in danger.
Nobody can prevent us, but the only way is to follow our demand. If you want to prevent us, make your company behave wisely.
and the FBI is on the case. GOP are taking on the company, the employees, and everyone close to them.
Either someone is really trying to play up the viral marketing for The Interview. (That engrish is so broken) or North Korea may really have something to do with it.,
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 06, 2014, 07:21:40 AM
It sounds very Korean-like English. I mean Korean that has been put through a translator. The complicated phrases is something I hear everyday…That said my wife disagrees, because it sounds too perfect.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2014, 03:32:24 PM
looks like I posted these in the wrong thread....
Corporate powerpoint slides from Sony are out in the wild....
this one really makes no damn sense.... where's the Playstation marketing? (http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--8M-sIMR3--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/laxjgppcohgtpk7t3dwm.png)
Reuters) - Despite its poverty and isolation, North Korea has poured resources into a sophisticated cyber-warfare cell called Bureau 121, defectors from the secretive state said as Pyongyang came under the microscope for a crippling hack into computers at Sony Pictures Entertainment.
A North Korean diplomat has denied Pyongyang was behind the attack that was launched last month but a U.S. national security source said it was a suspect.
Defectors from the North have said Bureau 121, staffed by some of the most talented computer experts in the insular state, is part of the General Bureau of Reconnaissance, an elite spy agency run by the military. They have said it is involved in state-sponsored hacking, used by the Pyongyang government to spy on or sabotage its enemies.
Pyongyang has active cyber-warfare capabilities, military and software security experts have said. Much of it is targeted at the South, technically still in a state of war with North Korea. But Pyongyang has made no secret of its hatred of the United States, which was on the South's side in the 1950-53 Korean War.
Military hackers are among the most talented, and rewarded, people in North Korea, handpicked and trained from as young as 17, said Jang Se-yul, who studied with them at North Korea's military college for computer science, or the University of Automation, before defecting to the South six years ago.
So it really could be N. Korea lashing out because of that movie.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 06, 2014, 08:39:36 PM
I wish I didn't live in Nebraska. Out station only ran a 30 second story on this but we devoted two fucking hours to the Huskers new head coach. We did cut into the NASA launch live so that was exciting and I met my first semi-celebrity we had a comedy central comedian on our talk show so that was kind of interesting. But this whole Sony thing is really heating up so I was expecting we would have more info on it but so far we haven't run anything more than just a few clips we got from GMA.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 06, 2014, 09:32:46 PM
Honestly, I don't think the general population realizes how huge the implications of this is. The GP is so used to "hack of the week" stories and most folks think this is just another one of them.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2014, 10:09:41 PM
I wish I didn't live in Nebraska. Out station only ran a 30 second story on this but we devoted two fucking hours to the Huskers new head coach. We did cut into the NASA launch live so that was exciting and I met my first semi-celebrity we had a comedy central comedian on our talk show so that was kind of interesting. But this whole Sony thing is really heating up so I was expecting we would have more info on it but so far we haven't run anything more than just a few clips we got from GMA.
maybe you should show some ambition and write a story about iand submit it to the production people. make sure you cite all your sources (NWR is not a good source BTW ;) ) and write it up in whatever style the anchors like to deliver it.
Maybe you could get yourself promoted sooner rather than later. or at the very least, get your name known by someone higher up the food chain.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 07, 2014, 12:30:28 PM
I should totally do that. I will see what we got going on in the morning and see if I can put something together. At the very least I could pass along the story idea to one of our producers/anchors. I just started my new job last week so I am not even sure I am ready to move up again so soon. Maybe after I do this for a month or so get used to what they consider news. Couldn't hurt to try though.
Doesn't look like it its a go. They want me to master my current position first and get a feel for what is important to our audience. I don't give a **** about corn, corn farmers, or the corn huskers so my chances here are pretty damn slim. Gotta just put in my time till I can go someplace better I guess. Not bashing my employer they are a great place to work its the market we cover that sucks.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2014, 07:53:50 PM
you asked about it first?
I probably would have just written something up, left it on the head producers desk when I go in his office to talk about it, and made sure my name was on it, just incase he decided to credit me for doing the legwork first. That way it's already done, it's there for him to look at, and should he decide to hand it off, it's ready to go.
But better luck next time.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 07, 2014, 08:16:21 PM
The reason is for national news they just use whatever ABC or CNN is going with, if GMA does a story we might run it but those are up to the producer and the morning show is run by her, nobody else gets there at 3 in the damn morning. The only way they would do something other than pull it down from one of the major sites is if we could put a local spin on it, an angle I had considered but the producer told me that was overstepping my scope and that I needed to master being an AP first before I tackle news story. I did share the idea with the anchor so if she wants to do something with it she gets the final say, its her show. At the very least I will see what she has to say and maybe bring it up to the attention of the morning producer when she gets to work. I don't know I am too new to this I might just let this one go, its not their usual type of story we really are a locally focused station.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2014, 08:49:39 PM
just let it go. Don't go behind the back on one producer to ask another.
If you already told the anchor, if they show interest, they'll follow it up.
I was just saying that next time, I would have my presentation ready to go instead of just pitching an idea. Give them something tangible to go with, with major online news sources to cite for reference. That way if something comes up and they need a last minute piece to fill a gap in programming, maybe they will throw someone on that story since most of the leg work was done and all they need to do is verify and fact check.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 08, 2014, 03:04:59 PM
update. Well the first person I sent the story idea to was the anchor and she is the morning producer too. The person who told me it wasn't a good idea is one of the morning reporters/producers on a different show I work on but his advice was mostly wait till I get more experience as an AP before I try writing. The anchor told me today, if I write it up and turn it in she will go over it with me and see if they can use it. In addition even if that doesn't work out, she did offer me a chance to do a holiday shopping guide for one of the upcoming shows as long as the big boss says it is okay this would be my first shot at real reporting.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2014, 04:34:09 PM
you are welcome.
I would like a shout out when you become local celebrity.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: pokepal148 on December 08, 2014, 04:45:02 PM
North Korea denies involvement (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2014/12/07/north_korea_calls_sony_hack_a_righteous_deed.html)
Oh and PSN got hacked again (http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-30373686)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 09, 2014, 10:34:00 PM
Sony was in talks with Marvel regarding Spidey crossover... http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/09/sony-marvel-discussed-spider-man-movie-crossover/
Will update with quotes when done reading and back at a computer. But some tasks about an animated movie and something about bringing back Sam Raimi.
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Sony Pictures has considered partnering with Marvel, bringing back director Sam Raimi, and producing an animated comedy as it looks to revamp its big screen strategy for “Spider-Man.”
Details of the discussions are contained in e-mails to and from Sony’s motion picture chief Amy Pascal, which were released on the Internet by hackers this week.
The e-mails reveal extensive discussions between executives at Sony and Marvel owner Walt Disney, all the way up to their respective chief executives Kaz Hirai and Robert Iger.
In an Oct. 30 e-mail, Sony Pictures president Doug Belgrad tells Ms. Pascal about a potential scenario that would see Marvel produce a new trilogy of Spider-Man movies while Sony retains “creative control, marketing and distribution.”
In a separate e-mail, Ms. Pascal tells a business partner that Marvel wanted to include Spider-Man in its planned third “Captain America” movie.
Some fanboys have clamored for Marvel Studios, which producers the blockbuster “Avengers” and “Iron Man” films, to take back control of Spider-Man from Sony, which has a long-term license. Sony’s last Spider-Man movie, “The Amazing Spider-Man 2,” received a mixed reaction from fans and modestly underperformed at the box office.
The talks with Marvel eventually broke down and Sony is now planning to go ahead with its own Spider-Man slate, according to people familiar with the matter. As of late November, executives were planning a “Spidey summit” for January to discuss future plans. Among projects in development are an animated Spider-Man comedy that would be produced by Chris Miller and Phil Lord, the team behind “22 Jump Street” and “The Lego Movie,” as well as previously disclosed Spider-Man spin-offs focused on villain team Sinister Six, super-foe Venom, and women from the webslinger’s life.
Ms. Pascal also talked to Sam Raimi, who directed the studio’s first three “Spider-Man” movies, about returning to the franchise, possibly to direct again or as a producer.
Now I hope Spidey fails in Sony's hands. Although an animated feature might not be a bad way for then to go for a few movies.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: shingi_70 on December 09, 2014, 10:38:41 PM
It was Obvious that Spider-man wasn't going to happen sadly. BlackPanther will probably play the role that peter played in the civil war comic book.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 09, 2014, 10:45:03 PM
But now we know all the rumors were true.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 09, 2014, 10:51:04 PM
Well, the problem with the rumor and why Marvel would not go for that is simple.
Sony wanted to keep creative control. If I was Marvel, I would let Sony keep production and distribution control, and profits but demand creative control and usage in Marvel universe. Just basically tell Sony..."Look you suck at making Spiderman. Let us make it for you and you get the money, but you have to take the monetary risks and investments...which isn't a risk, because well look at our track record."
But Sony would never go for that anyway.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 09, 2014, 11:35:01 PM
The film, which the emails say will be animated, is only in the very earliest stages of production, with no personnel currently attached (though there are daydreams that Samurai Jack's Genndy Tartakovsky might be tempted).
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Yet the Buzzfeed report says they "could not find any emails in which anyone at Sony Pictures expressed concern about any conflicts with their video game corporate cousin Sony Computer Entertainment, which is a direct competitor with Nintendo."
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 01:24:13 AM
I bet they would do it better than most, and I'm sure Disney isn't interested at the moment.... (still waiting on Mushroom Kingdom Hearts).
and I had just come in here to post that the Sony Chairman Amy Pascal (who made emails about Obama and more all linked in previous post) has decided to own the incident and speak about it. http://deadline.com/2014/12/amy-pascal-breaks-silence-sony-hacking-1201321005/
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 12, 2014, 01:31:52 AM
Sony was also hacked in February and we're only just finding out about it now. This is getting worse by the day.
The film, which the emails say will be animated, is only in the very earliest stages of production, with no personnel currently attached (though there are daydreams that Samurai Jack's Genndy Tartakovsky might be tempted).
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Yet the Buzzfeed report says they "could not find any emails in which anyone at Sony Pictures expressed concern about any conflicts with their video game corporate cousin Sony Computer Entertainment, which is a direct competitor with Nintendo."
Thinking this over, I really can't picture a compelling Mario 3D animated movie....
now if they did a Samus/Metroid movie, a Link/Zelda movie or maybe even a StarFox movie.... or better yet, a Nintendoverse movie in the vein of maybe The LEGO Movie, where Mario gets caught up in a whimsical adventure that takes him into all sorts of **** and lands in him all of Nintendo's properties to resolve it, involving all he comes across, then maybe that will work. But just Mario & Luigi.... in the mushroom kingdom.... I'm just not seeing it.
what will be interesting though, is who get the game rights to the movie? and will it appear on a system other than a Nintendo one?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 02:08:41 PM
Sony was in talks with Marvel regarding Spidey crossover... http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/09/sony-marvel-discussed-spider-man-movie-crossover/
Looks like The Russo Bros. were in talks with Sony as well to produce the Marvel/Sony Spider-man movies and take it out of the hands of Avi Arad.
The real juicy stuff are from the discussions between Sony Entertainment Chairman Amy Pascal and the Captain America: The Winter Soldier directors Anthony and Joe Russo that took place last month. The Russo brothers begin their email to Pascal with, "A pity that negotiations with Marvel did not work." They're referring to the proposed deal with Marvel Studios that would have brought Spider-Man into the Marvel cinematic universe by giving him a cameo in Captain America: Civil War. They then let Pascal know that they will be directing Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 and Part 2, but that obligation won't prevent them from directing The Gray Man beforehand for Sony. Then on November 17, Joe Russo sent Pascal an email offering to have him and his brother produce Sony's Spider-Man films through their newly-formed production company, Bullitt. He acknowledges that a "difficult conversation" would have to take place with current Spider-Man producers Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad, but Russo says it would be a "conversation worth having." As far as overtice.com knows, Pascal never replied to Russo's offer. Keep in mind, Sony's computer system was shutdown just a week after Russo sent that email, so Pascal very well could have by now.
Brazilian website, overtice.com, came across some other great tidbits. In previous emails, Pascal begged Sam Raimi to help her with Spidey but in another email she tells a Sony exec that she doesn't need his help because he went "Joel Schumacher on the third." I'm sure Raimi won't like being compared to the Batman & Robin director. In a separate email, Avi Arad begs Pascal to give him the green light on a Venom movie because the toys and video games based on the character are popular. Lastly, Motion Picture Group President Jeff Robinov warns Pascal not to make a deal with Marvel, but you have to question his advice as he still thinks Stan Lee can create more characters in the Spider-Man universe for Sony. Check out all of those emails by clicking here.
considering this is all so recent... maybe the deal could still be on the table. It's probably a little late to shoehorn Spider-man back into CA:CW in the capacity they originally imagined for him, or maybe not, but Marvel w/ creative control over usage of Spider-man, and Sony taking that "silent" partner and profit position sounds so damn good in comparison to how things are now.
the last 3 spider-man movies have gone from terrible to so bad it was almost entertaining, but in all the wrong ways, so this kind of change would be amazing. Fully onboard with The Russos taking over production as well, since Avi Arad apparently has been a big problem with most of the past Spidey movies.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 02:53:39 PM
Sony Hack brings more movie news to light: Star Wars, Ghostbusters and more. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/12/shocking-new-reveals-from-sony-hack-j-law-pitt-clooney-and-comparing-fincher-to-hitler.html?via=twitter_page (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/12/shocking-new-reveals-from-sony-hack-j-law-pitt-clooney-and-comparing-fincher-to-hitler.html?via=twitter_page)
Star Wars:
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Unless you’ve been living under a rock, you’re probably aware that Star Wars: The Force Awakens, J.J. Abrams’s continuation of the Star Wars story, will hit theaters late next year, and there are several other planned Star Wars films by Rian Johnson (Looper), Gareth Edwards (Godzilla), and Josh Trank (Chronicle). An email dated September 20, 2014, from Michael De Luca, President of Production for Columbia Pictures, to Amy Pascal discusses the plans for Disney’s upcoming Star wars films—and may have spilled some interesting new details.
“Star Wars: Any studio would have lost josh trank and rian Johnson to this, it's freaking Star Wars. Your After Earth writer Gary Whitta is writing Gareth Edwards stand alone Star Wars film. Simon Kinberg is writing Josh Tranks. No one knows what they're about but Boba Fett is rumored to be the subject of one. Rian Johnson as you know is doing the main ones, episodes 8 and 9 of the Luke and Leia story lines, after JJ. Not sure anything is gained by looking at what Lucasfilm is doing except we are stalking all these people too, except Whitta whom I think blows.”
Ghostbusters:
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The Ghostbusters Film May Star Jennifer Lawrence, Emma Stone, and Melissa McCarthy
An email dated October 8, 2014, from Pascal to Ivan Reitman, director/producer of the original Ghostbusters film, revealed some key details about the planned reboot, scheduled for release ideally sometime in summer 2016:
“Agree that everyone is way too nervous about how this issue and how we. present it but it's isn't a sequel to the 80s movies and it is gonna be totally original with completely different characters and our job is to find a clever way to connect the movie to the original franchise so that we can use all the assets and everything that is great about the original franchise,” the email read. “Paul's movie is gonna be the first one and from what I'm hearing jennifer lawrence and Emma stone and Melissa McCarthy and Amy schumer and liszzy [Lizzy] Kaplan just to name a few have already said thy wanted to be in....”
more at the link above.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 06:10:10 PM
Sony was in talks with Marvel regarding Spidey crossover... http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2014/12/09/sony-marvel-discussed-spider-man-movie-crossover/
Looks like The Russo Bros. were in talks with Sony as well to produce the Marvel/Sony Spider-man movies and take it out of the hands of Avi Arad.
The real juicy stuff are from the discussions between Sony Entertainment Chairman Amy Pascal and the Captain America: The Winter Soldier directors Anthony and Joe Russo that took place last month. The Russo brothers begin their email to Pascal with, "A pity that negotiations with Marvel did not work." They're referring to the proposed deal with Marvel Studios that would have brought Spider-Man into the Marvel cinematic universe by giving him a cameo in Captain America: Civil War. They then let Pascal know that they will be directing Marvel's Avengers: Infinity War Part 1 and Part 2, but that obligation won't prevent them from directing The Gray Man beforehand for Sony. Then on November 17, Joe Russo sent Pascal an email offering to have him and his brother produce Sony's Spider-Man films through their newly-formed production company, Bullitt. He acknowledges that a "difficult conversation" would have to take place with current Spider-Man producers Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad, but Russo says it would be a "conversation worth having." As far as overtice.com knows, Pascal never replied to Russo's offer. Keep in mind, Sony's computer system was shutdown just a week after Russo sent that email, so Pascal very well could have by now.
Brazilian website, overtice.com, came across some other great tidbits. In previous emails, Pascal begged Sam Raimi to help her with Spidey but in another email she tells a Sony exec that she doesn't need his help because he went "Joel Schumacher on the third." I'm sure Raimi won't like being compared to the Batman & Robin director. In a separate email, Avi Arad begs Pascal to give him the green light on a Venom movie because the toys and video games based on the character are popular. Lastly, Motion Picture Group President Jeff Robinov warns Pascal not to make a deal with Marvel, but you have to question his advice as he still thinks Stan Lee can create more characters in the Spider-Man universe for Sony. Check out all of those emails by clicking here.
considering this is all so recent... maybe the deal could still be on the table. It's probably a little late to shoehorn Spider-man back into CA:CW in the capacity they originally imagined for him, or maybe not, but Marvel w/ creative control over usage of Spider-man, and Sony taking that "silent" partner and profit position sounds so damn good in comparison to how things are now.
the last 3 spider-man movies have gone from terrible to so bad it was almost entertaining, but in all the wrong ways, so this kind of change would be amazing. Fully onboard with The Russos taking over production as well, since Avi Arad apparently has been a big problem with most of the past Spidey movies.
Re: a Marvel/Sony movie, just wanted to point this out from the Latino-review leak http://www.latino-review.com/news/marvel-wants-a-fresh-start-with-spider-man-without-andrew-garfield
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IF the Marvel/Sony deal were to go forward, Andrew Garfield would no longer be Peter Parker and any baggage from existing films, Raimi or Webb, would be non-canonical, Marvel doesn't want any part of those films. The idea is that the Spider-Man romance movie has been played out over five installments, so any new Spider-Man films would focus on the difficulties of being a teenager and a superhero with a romance side-story, not the film's focus. Marvel also thinks that the origin story is well-trodden territory, so any Spider-Man movies under this deal would begin with Peter Parker already leading a dual life.
really hope that if Marvel can't get it back outright, that this deal finds a way to happen.... with a clause in there that after 3 movies, rights fully revert back to Marvel
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 12, 2014, 08:25:56 PM
Weird question... does all this make anyone more/less likely to see The Interview?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on December 12, 2014, 08:31:09 PM
I typically enjoy the pairing of Seth Rogen and James Franco so I would have watched The Interview eventually anyway. It isn't a movie I'd see in theaters. I still haven't seen Interstellar. I think the last movie I bought a ticket for was Guardians of the Galaxy.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 08:59:26 PM
when it hits Netflix streaming, i might.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 12:19:20 AM
Meet The Movie Press: Talks Sony Hacks, incompetence and all around stupidness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV6MaRNITtY#t=1337
including: 21 Jump Street meets MIB..... yes, that is a real movie they are considering. Starring Jonah Hill... WTF!?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 01:56:44 AM
http://defamer.gawker.com/new-sony-hack-docs-reveal-the-ridiculous-aliases-of-a-b-1668495661 Movie star aliases.
http://insidemovies.ew.com/2014/12/12/james-bond-spectre-script-leaks/ James Bond script leaks
http://mashable.com/2014/12/12/spider-man-may-appear-in-captain-america-3-but-not-played-by-andrew-garfield/ More details on the Sony/Marvel Spidey talks.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on December 13, 2014, 02:49:13 AM
Ugh, I wish Sony would just let Marvel/Disney handle Spider-Man creatively. I don't care how they split everything else like distribution, marketing, etc. Sony has shown itself to be artistically bankrupt and incompetent in so many ways. Let Sony even keep the rights if it helps Sony execs feel like they have a seat at the adults table, just let Marvel show those idiots how to make movies.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 02:54:53 AM
I think Marvel's main hang up is that while Marvel is technically trying to get over on Sony, they are still doing them a HUGE favor by taking creative control. But Sony want to be play like they are in the power position on this deal and be able to use Marvel characters in Sony produced Spidey movies w/o Marvel's permission... and that is certainly a deal breaker, because that means more contract negotations and possible interference w/ ongoing MCU plotlines and characters.
Sony just needs to realize that they get to profit from Marvel doing most of the heavy lifting and just accept that check. Almost no risk, all reward. and they no longer need to waste time, talent and money on terrible movies that should've been good.
One thing I do want to know, is what does this mean for Drew Goddard? Who left his passion project of Daredevil to pursue a blockbuster writing/directing role for Sinister Six?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 04:53:02 AM
The bad news is just rolling in this weekend.... Sony got it bad. can't catch a break.
I wonder when legal action or something bad (financial or status) actually happens to Sony because of all this private info being leaked?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2014, 01:25:03 PM
North Korea is not striking back against the allegations that they've done bad stuff - they've not created a Youtube channel to spread the good word of North Korea as not made by them.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 05:30:08 PM
More proud that Sony is lost when it comes to Spider-man... http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/13/exclusive-sony-hack-reveals-studio-planning-another-spider-man-reboot.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+thedailybeast%2Farticles+%28The+Daily+Beast+-+Latest+Articles%29
Sony's backup plan was to reboot again with an adult Spider-man played by Gosling!?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 07:59:52 PM
**** just keeps rolling downhill for Sony.... and I expect these stories to keep happening over the next 2 months as they comb though 100TB of data.
update. Well the first person I sent the story idea to was the anchor and she is the morning producer too. The person who told me it wasn't a good idea is one of the morning reporters/producers on a different show I work on but his advice was mostly wait till I get more experience as an AP before I try writing. The anchor told me today, if I write it up and turn it in she will go over it with me and see if they can use it. In addition even if that doesn't work out, she did offer me a chance to do a holiday shopping guide for one of the upcoming shows as long as the big boss says it is okay this would be my first shot at real reporting.
I hope you haven't turned your report in yet... all the juicy stuff is coming out this weekend. or atleast submit an update before they broadcast. Your station isn't affiliated with Sony in any way is it?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2014, 10:06:41 PM
So... silly question... Why wasn't The Interview leaked with the other movies? :D
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 10:58:01 PM
Because if N. Korea is behind it, went would they leak the movie they want no one to see?
And more leaks that really could hurt Sony financially http://www.buzzfeed.com/peterlauria/sony-pictures-business-secrets-revealed-in-hack-yep-seinfeld?s=mobile Movie and television licensing and syndication deals.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2014, 11:15:00 PM
Because if N. Korea is behind it, went would they leak the movie they want no one to see?
But they said they weren't behind it! :D
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Of course they said that. I wouldn't want to admit to it either ;)
the actual hackers still want to keep any focus of of themselves, and as long as prior think it's N. Korea, that pays in both their and Sony's favor.
And they even thought of all us and are promising a great Xmas gift for all interested. http://news.yahoo.com/sony-hackers-promise-deliver-large-christmas-gift-223232467.html
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The email also said that a "Christmas gift" would be arriving soon that will "put Sony Pictures into the worst state."
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 13, 2014, 11:27:58 PM
I wonder when/if we'll start to see any kind of legal actions taken against Sony for anything that gets released.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
I was wondering the same thing regarding legal repercussions. I'm just hoping that after everything coming to them, it causes them to willingly release Spider-man in the process.
And here is everything that had happened up till earlier today.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2014, 02:14:39 AM
Looks like Sony has shut down production on active shoots. Unable to process payments. http://www.businessinsider.com/sony-shuts-down-filming-on-movies-2014-12
Because if N. Korea is behind it, why would they leak the movie they want no one to see?
But they said they weren't behind it! :D
http://mashable.com/2014/12/08/hackers-emailed-sony-execs/ The demands that were sent before the Sony shutdown hack.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2014, 11:28:39 AM
Spidey plan #3 at Sony: lend to Marvel, then use that popularity to continue the ASM series with new actor.... Directed by Lord and Miller. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/14/exclusive-sony-emails-reveal-destiny-s-child-and-kanye-west-movies-and-spidey-cameo-in-capt-3.html?via=twitter_page Also, Fox does actually plan to crossover F4 & X-Men. Sony still planning to expand the spideyverse for a big team up film of their own.
And Jeff Nichols (Mud) is directing Aquaman for WB.
Edit: and a breakdown/analysis of all the leaks so far https://www.riskbasedsecurity.com/2014/12/a-breakdown-and-analysis-of-the-december-2014-sony-hack/
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 14, 2014, 07:03:53 PM
They didn't need to go to the trouble of mailing it to media outlets: they could have left it in Sony's most secure database and we'd have gotten it even faster.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2014, 01:01:03 AM
LOL.
In new news. Amy Pascal might be getting fired (aka Golden parachuted) to set an example. http://m.nydailynews.com/entertainment/sony-exec-amy-pascal-fired-emails-source-article-1.2044435
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Ceric on December 15, 2014, 05:35:07 PM
I normally feel bad about someone losing there job but, I can't for anyone who has a Golden Parachute. Them getting fired is like me not having to work for the rest of my life at my current wages.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2014, 06:05:14 PM
I normally feel bad about someone losing there job but, I can't for anyone who has a Golden Parachute. Them getting fired is like me not having to work for the rest of my life at my current wages.
You and probably you're immediate family too.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 01:17:43 PM
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ObbyDent on December 16, 2014, 04:51:19 PM
The hackers are also threatening to attack theaters that play The Interview "9/11" style. This **** is getting a little too serious for my blood.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 16, 2014, 05:21:46 PM
Bring it on, bitch. This is America. The land of the free. The home of the brave. If you want to kill us over a movie, then obviously we're doing something right.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 05:31:56 PM
I didn't drop that in this thread because they denied the last threats that were made against the Sony employees, so I'm not so sure they made these ones either.
as far as I know only Variety was reporting it, and as reliable as they are, I think it's a false ass threat anyway.
They better ship out all the info they got, and do it quickly, because we will probably have a story in 2-3 months of about 6 basements getting raided and 4-5 young men getting arrested for cyber terrorism and corporate invasion and sabotage or something.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 16, 2014, 05:41:04 PM
They're getting real desperate in their attempts to convince people they're actually from North Korea.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: pokepal148 on December 16, 2014, 06:29:33 PM
Bring it on, bitch. This is America. The land of the free. The home of the brave. If you want to kill us over a movie, then obviously we're doing something right.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stratos on December 16, 2014, 10:35:46 PM
I like to imagine this is Disney trying to wrest control of Spiderman back from Sony.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2014, 11:49:38 AM
One Theater chain in NYC cancels The Interview premiere (and all screenings?) http://deadline.com/2014/12/the-interview-new-york-premiere-canceled-1201327757/
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Khushrenada on December 17, 2014, 01:28:22 PM
One Theater chain in NYC cancels The Interview premiere (and all screenings?) http://deadline.com/2014/12/the-interview-new-york-premiere-canceled-1201327757/
I hope it is the only theatre that gets attacked. The irony would be delicious.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on December 17, 2014, 03:52:22 PM
Now I have this urge to see this movie twice AND buy the bootleg.
(and I don't think North Korea had anything to do with this treat)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 17, 2014, 04:21:08 PM
When it was announced that theaters had started pulling screenings, I immediately asked my fave theater if they were still showing and planned to go just out of spite. Initially, they said they still had it on the schedule, but 10 mins ago, they just posted on their Facebook that they were pulling it.
Boo. Thumbs down. Terrorists win.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2014, 04:33:14 PM
Looks like "ALL" Major theaters are pulling the movie, and Sony has pulled all advertising.
I hope the hackers still release the Xmas Present they had planned though, as long as it's all high level corporate shenanigans and not personal lowly employee related files.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 17, 2014, 04:53:29 PM
I don't think the hackers will stop. They have too much power with this. You never give in to terrorists, especially when they already have your data.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 17, 2014, 06:24:00 PM
Sony Cancels the Theatrical Release for The Interview http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony-cancels-theatrical-release-for-the-interview-on-christmas-1201382032/ (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/sony-cancels-theatrical-release-for-the-interview-on-christmas-1201382032/)
and sources say that the US Gov. has stated that N. Korea is responsible for the Sony Hacks.
"American intelligence officials have concluded that the North Korean government was “centrally involved” in the recent attacks on Sony Pictures’s computers, a determination reached just as Sony on Wednesday canceled its release of the comedy, which is based on a plot to assassinate Kim Jong-un, the North Korean leader."
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 17, 2014, 06:52:52 PM
And terrorism wins.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 17, 2014, 07:11:42 PM
Yup.
Funny - Two hours ago, Wired ran an article titled "North Korea Did Not Hack Sony." Roughly an hour ago, it was released that NK did hack Sony.
Original WIRED article (although with a new name): http://www.wired.com/2014/12/north-korea-did-not-hack-sony-probs/
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 17, 2014, 07:19:15 PM
I'm still skeptical. The email that came out a few days before the hacking from the hackers to Sony execs never stated they wanted "The Interview" to never release. It said they wanted money, lots of it. You would think that they would still want money and further extort Sony but instead they flipped their motives. Why? It doesn't make sense.
It's going to be so great when we find out a couple of bored 15-year-olds from Iowa caused all this mess...
Well, basically. NK didn't themselves hack Sony. They hired some third-party to do the dirty work. For all we know, it really was a couple of 15-year olds.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ShyGuy on December 18, 2014, 08:11:10 PM
I'm disgusted.
and I have a new get-rich quick plan! cyber corporate blackmail!
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 18, 2014, 08:19:35 PM
So... Paramount isn't allowing theatrical showings of Team America...
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 18, 2014, 08:43:24 PM
So... Paramount isn't allowing theatrical showings of Team America...
I was just coming in here to post that....
It's time to turn in those stars and stripes.... all the red has run down onto the floor.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 18, 2014, 08:45:00 PM
I wonder how much trouble Paramount would go through to go after folks projecting large public (free) performances of Team America screenings in public areas...
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 18, 2014, 08:59:19 PM
So, just harassed my theater to do a Christmas Day screening of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Great_Dictator
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on December 18, 2014, 10:15:24 PM
That's a creative idea.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2014, 01:52:04 AM
Everyone should bleach an American flag and fly that **** at full mast.
"We've surrendered our freedoms to fear.... All the colors have run dry... The terrorist have won."
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on December 19, 2014, 01:35:06 PM
So it was North Korea! I swear if WWIII starts and I can't see the next Star Wars film because of a Seth Rogan / James Franco stoner flick...I'm gonna be most grumpy!
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2014, 02:20:02 PM
Yes. The FBI has conluded that there was enough evidence to point this directly at N. Korea http://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/update-on-sony-investigation
and Obama called Sony a Pussy on live television for pulling the movie. At least our president's colors haven't run... but technically, Sony is a Japanese company, and SPE is a subsidiary based in America, but as long as the are here, they should know we don't give in to the demand of terrorist. This is AMERICA dammit.
(http://i.imgur.com/cUAl3jT.jpg)
Hopefully Obama give Presidential Executive Order to release the movie on New Years Day. just to let them know that we ain't afraid of no one, especially not N. Korea and their empty threats.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2014, 02:30:41 PM
it appears that the Hackers have decided to back off Sony for now...
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The hackers who attacked Sony Pictures have called off the release of further stolen data because of the studio's decision not to release The Interview, according to CNN. CNN reports that top Sony executives received an email from the hacking group last night with a message saying that it would leave them alone for now. "It's very wise that you have made a decision cancel the release of The Interview. It will be very useful for you," CNN reports the message as reading. The email concludes, "We will assure the security of your data unless you make additional trouble."
That's both good and bad news for Sony. It should be relieved that it has stopped the publication of damaging stolen data — such as executives' emails — for now, though the fact that it's still out there presents an ongoing problem.
but they promise to hold the blackmail over them should they cause any more problems....
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"Now we want you never let the movie released, distributed or leaked in any form of, for instance, DVD or piracy."
"And we want everything related to the movie, including its trailers, as well as its full version down from any website hosting them immediately."
It warns the studio executives that "we still have your private and sensitive data" and claims that they will "ensure the security of your data unless you make additional trouble."
and this is why we don't negotiate w/ terrorist Sony.
edit: And George Clooney was apparently the one man trying to stand up against all this... now calls Hollywood as a whole a bunch of pussies. https://deadline.com/2014/12/george-clooney-sony-hollywood-cowardice-north-korea-cyberattack-petition-1201329988/
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ObbyDent on December 19, 2014, 02:59:41 PM
And now Obama was just in some sort of press conference saying that the US will respond to this in some form or another.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Ceric on December 19, 2014, 03:07:07 PM
I guess its confirmed now that its North Korea. At that point it is a Cyber Attack involving American Citizen from a Foreign Power. At least on the Cyber front we really don't have much of a choice.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: pokepal148 on December 19, 2014, 04:32:11 PM
ooh.... MPAA, you dun (http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2473946,00.asp) got Google pissed. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2014/12/19/google-files-lawsuit-against-mississippi-attorney-general/)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 19, 2014, 05:50:15 PM
In other news that article I wrote about Sony was read by one of the reporters/anchors at my station and she liked it. I won't know details till Monday but there is a good chance they might run it. There is sort of a deadline in order for it to remain relevant but I still have time.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2014, 06:09:44 PM
its more relevant now than it was last week, but it would have been bigger for you had they first reported on it last week instead of next week. As you could be writing the follow up story to it now, instead of the initial report. It would show an eye for spotting that big story before it breaks.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 19, 2014, 06:29:17 PM
Porn to the rescue. and as american as apple pie.
Hustler to produce a Porn Parody of The Interview. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hustler-produce-porn-parody-interview-759578?utm_source=twitter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hustler-produce-porn-parody-interview-759578?utm_source=twitter)
Let hope they replace the assassination plot with an assassiraping plot instead ;)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on December 19, 2014, 07:36:23 PM
Finally.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ShyGuy on December 19, 2014, 07:43:18 PM
At least Larry Flynt is man enough to take on the DPRK. WHAT SAY YOU, KAZ HIRAI? :confused;
Hustler to produce a Porn Parody of The Interview. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hustler-produce-porn-parody-interview-759578?utm_source=twitter (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/hustler-produce-porn-parody-interview-759578?utm_source=twitter)
...from sea to shining sea.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 20, 2014, 05:33:20 AM
its more relevant now than it was last week, but it would have been bigger for you had they first reported on it last week instead of next week. As you could be writing the follow up story to it now, instead of the initial report. It would show an eye for spotting that big story before it breaks.
You would think, but in order to put a local spin on it I had to tie it into Christmas shopping and tech gadgets, its more relevant as a pre-Christmas shopping story but a few minor tweaks and I can turn it into a post-Christmas shopping story. I live in the mid-west and our local news has to have a very local slant the only ebola stuff we reported on was that one doctor in Nebraska and the patient in Kansas, everything else was not news worthy to our market. Our local slant on the cuba thing was interviewing a cigar smoker who used to be mayor.
But I am still hopeful they will run it, she told me that she wants to work with me to get it on air so if that does happen I will share the link because all our stories do get posted to our website.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2014, 12:40:25 PM
More Spider-man details leaked http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=112646
It's sounds like a deal had almost been reached with co-production, script, costume and actor approvals, a 3pic minimum deal, and the biggest reason why Marvel would even consider agreeing to this, is it changes the rights conversion from 1 movie every 7 years, to one movie appearance every 3.5yrs.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 21, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/sonys-lawyer-says-interview-released-161003610.html Looks like Sony has decided that it will release the movie afterall, it's just not 100% sure how yet.
http://nypost.com/2014/12/21/sony-plans-to-release-the-interview-on-crackle-for-free/ Looks like it might get a free showing on Crackle. The ad supported movie streaming service owned by Sony.
Let's just hope the Hackers don't shut down Crackle when time to premiere happens. Although that would be so damn hilarious.... probably even funnier than the actual movie.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 21, 2014, 04:28:42 PM
You know, I was thinking about this when Sony came out and pushed all the blame onto theaters, stating that they'd be interested in releasing the movie via a digital steaming service...
There's no way.
Your streaming services live and die on their ability to have a functioning and reliable connection to the internet. If they ticked off the wrong group - blammo. Could you imagine if they lost service for a day? A week? How long was the PlayStation Network down again? Ouch.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 21, 2014, 05:18:37 PM
That's why they should take up (Torrent Locker?) Bit Torrent's offer to distribute.
Not their service, it's a pay structure, and it will end up on the torrent services withing hours or days of being released in any format anyway for free, so they might as well make a little money back on it first. NK can't shut down the whole internet, and finding a way to shut down Bit Torrent would be an amazing feat.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 21, 2014, 06:32:41 PM
And who are you to tell Great Leader what he can and cannot do? ;)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 21, 2014, 07:34:16 PM
Well, just this rumor alone will help us get that "Christmas gift" the hackers promised us. But it also means that the hackers will release more damning stuff against Sony if they have anything. Let's see what happens next.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 21, 2014, 09:51:23 PM
I think this whole thing was an elaborate scheme to promote Crackle. Sony paid off North Korea to hack their own servers just to set it up.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Shaymin on December 21, 2014, 11:20:16 PM
Sports Jeopardy clearly doesn't pay the bills, so let's BURN THAT MOTHER TO THE GROUND.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 22, 2014, 01:40:50 AM
You know, you wouldn't have to pay North Korea to do it. If it was really a fake just hack yourself and release false information then make everyone believe it is true. Release some movies that wouldn't do great to the public and what not, and it is a great plan.
However, we know the information that was leaked was real, and so it definitely isn't a fake.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2014, 03:21:13 PM
The entire internet us down in North Korea. What a shame.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 22, 2014, 04:53:45 PM
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2014, 06:47:34 PM
It was either him or Anonymous.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 22, 2014, 06:54:47 PM
If the US government is really behind the internet outages in North Korea, then that is some pretty scary stuff the US government can do...and we should not be celebrating but concerned because it basically means the government can shut down the internet if it wants to.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 22, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
The best cyber war defense is a good cyber war offense.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2014, 07:42:18 PM
China controls NK's internet access, so the US couldn't shut it down as easily as China could, at least not with the "flip of a switch." Their access is pretty horrible though, so it probably wouldn't be too hard to physically shut them down.
But really the best cyber defense is a really good cyber defense. A good offense won't protect you at all.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 22, 2014, 08:03:20 PM
A good enough offense gets you mutually assured destruction, and we're not spending enough money on infrastructure to get to the point where we have a legitimately good defense anytime soon anyway.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 22, 2014, 08:21:51 PM
I have friends and colleagues who could attest that as a nation we're pretty good at both. Check out DARPA's Cyber Grand Challenge. One of my professors is on a participating team, pretty interesting and very relevant stuff.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 22, 2014, 08:25:30 PM
[...]the government can shut down the internet if it wants to.
Was there really ever any doubt that they could in the first place?
The government brought the internet into this world and it can damn sure take it out.
Yes, but that doesn't mean it should. Think about the power right there. Entire economies are dependent on internet business and transactions...that should concern everybody. Now, I don't believe the government is going to take out the internet...but the fact that it is possible...and possible on a targeted nation scale is pretty scary.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 22, 2014, 08:50:37 PM
This is the new cold war. The government has to be able to do that because there are other governments able to do it to us. It's not something you want to have to use but you have to have it in your back pocket in case you need it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 22, 2014, 08:52:31 PM
So, I was thinking - what would a fair response from the US government be to this?
Obviously a military strike isn't something I'd support.
This shutting down of the internet in NK isn't it. NK doesn't really use the internet like we do.
Oh, they don't use the internet... but what if they *did*?
Let's air-drop, smuggle in, whatever it takes a few million dollars worth of tablets. Walmart sold cheap-ass basic tablets for $29 each. They have a population of 24.9 Million (thanks Google). For less than a billion dollars, we should be able to purchase one basic Android tablet for every person in NK. Obviously, that's overkill, but you get the picture. In comparison, we spent between $4 and $6 trillion in Iraq and Afghanistan.
But what good is a tablet without Wifi? We need to come up with some way to blanket the country with WiFi.
We'll bring free and open internet access to every man, woman and child in NK.
That is how you strike back.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 22, 2014, 09:58:32 PM
UncleBob: I would think an appropriate response would be to support LiNK. Liberty in North Korea...and help smuggle citizens out of North Korea to freedom.
$2,000 can save a persons life. Imagine if the government was too support a program like when North Korea acted out and saved hundreds or thousands of lives?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 22, 2014, 10:04:29 PM
An overt action like that could have very negative side-effects. I can't imagine South Korea would be happy with the U.S. riling up North Korea like that. North Korea can't really do a ton to us, but they can sure as hell cause some **** in South Korea if we piss them off enough.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 22, 2014, 11:12:37 PM
Insanolord: South Koreans know far better than anyone else how much of a joke North Korea is. It is a fact that the reason they have the largest army in the world is literally every citizen is required to be apart of it...but that means that half the army is starving. In fact, there was a story not to long ago here in Korea talking about the North Korean Army and how they can't do regular routines of exercise because the army doesn't have the strength for it.
So South Korea is bailing North Korea out with food and support throughout the year to build up the relationship. In fact, recently North and South Korea have been trying to slow the propaganda against each other.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 23, 2014, 01:21:16 AM
And that's a good thing, but I have to imagine the U.S. taking direct action against them would probably hinder that process. It would only serve to agitate an already unstable mess of a country. Also, China would be pretty damn upset, which is honestly the biggest reason we won't do it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ShyGuy on December 23, 2014, 01:59:48 AM
I need to get my satellite into the sky...
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 23, 2014, 08:52:07 AM
And that's a good thing, but I have to imagine the U.S. taking direct action against them would probably hinder that process. It would only serve to agitate an already unstable mess of a country. Also, China would be pretty damn upset, which is honestly the biggest reason we won't do it.
I doubt China be as upset as you may think. They have been gritting teeth with NK for a while.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2014, 12:21:13 PM
Looks like Sony decided to nut up and allow The Interview to be shown in theaters if the theaters want to show it. http://popcultureblog.dallasnews.com/2014/12/sources-sony-to-ask-theaters-if-they-want-to-open-the-interview-christmas-day-after-all.html/
support your product Sony, don't let NK of all places dictate how you run your business. what could they possibly have on you that you don't want to see come to light?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 23, 2014, 12:39:00 PM
what could they possibly have on you that you don't want to see come to light?
Especially considering they waited until after the hackers revealed a ton of incriminating **** to make that decision.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 23, 2014, 07:22:12 PM
I disagree wholeheartedly with Spak, the internet was originally created by the US Military FOR the US Military it is their damn right to do whatever the hell they deem necessary with it. If it means protecting us than yes they certainly should make a show of force, a reminder that you don't **** with the United States.
And to avoid turning this into blatant political discussion, lets talk about the Sony story I turned into my boss, after two weeks of showing it to two different reporters, re-writing it, and then finally tweaking it to perfection I sent it in and today he told me it was very good and that they will try to get to it next week after the Holiday madness is over. I won't be reading it on air, they handed it to one of their regular reporters but it was still a victory in my book.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 23, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
You can disagree with me. I don't mind...people have different opinions.
I wonder if the hackers will release anything on Christmas now that Sony seems considering releasing the movie again.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2014, 08:52:09 PM
@MMF make sure you post a youtube clip of the story once it goes live. congrats on the story moving forward though.
@Spak They better release the juicy tidbits they had on the actual CEO, and whatever other SonyScandal inducing info they got. I hope they attempt to bury Sony with the leak.... only for most of it to not really matter in the end. But all for our amusement.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 23, 2014, 08:52:49 PM
The internet was not created for the military or by the military.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 23, 2014, 08:56:15 PM
The internet was not created for the military or by the military.
True. it was created by Al Gore.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 23, 2014, 09:31:43 PM
Er... while I wouldn't credit the entire Inventory/Development of the internet to the US Military, there's no way it would have developed and evolved as fast as it did without military involvement (and, more importantly, military dollars) funneled into it.
Your mother might have birthed you, but it wouldn't have happened without your father's seed.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 23, 2014, 09:33:47 PM
And it's gone far, far beyond that in the intervening decades. To suggest that the U.S. military should still retain total control of it is ludicrous.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 23, 2014, 09:35:41 PM
Oh, no, I'm not saying they should by any reach. Just saying, I can't imagine it developing to where it is today without Military involvement in the early years.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 23, 2014, 09:43:38 PM
That's fair, the DoD did do a whole lot of the early work.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 23, 2014, 10:23:18 PM
Honestly I am torn.
I do not agree with this type of terrorism. But I find it really humorous that Sony was in such a security breach and so ignorant and foolish about it that they let THIS much information leak.
I also think The Interview is a pretty horrible idea for a movie...even a dark comedy and showing a sitting world leader get assassinated is pretty tasteless and I can understand why North Korea and really the world should want this movie pulled. It should have never been made in the first place.
Then again you should not never give into terrorism so I do not think Sony should have pulled it. (They should have never made it in the first place.) But if Sony doesn't give into the demands then they have to deal with the consequences of foolish security protocols. So let's see what happens with this movie and the hackers.
I predict that IF this is truly North Korea, they will release more things because of the internet outage and the movie releasing again.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 23, 2014, 10:38:17 PM
So Sony's releasing the movie to 200 theaters in 19 states. Funny.
I still don't believe these are North Koreans. It just doesn't make sense. Nothing before the hack ever mentions the Interview, yet now it's the hackers main agenda. Fishy. Very fishy.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2014, 12:25:30 AM
I still don't believe these are North Koreans. It just doesn't make sense. Nothing before the hack ever mentions the Interview, yet now it's the hackers main agenda. Fishy. Very fishy.
My thoughts exactly.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 24, 2014, 02:23:03 AM
The government seemed pretty confident in declaring that it came from North Korea, so I think it's safe to say at least some of it did. There's no reason for them to aggravate an already tense international relationship with nothing to back it up.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 24, 2014, 03:26:47 AM
Listen, I'm not extremely literate in the ways of the computer, but how hard would it be to spoof your IP address? On a scale of 1 to 10, how difficult would it be to reroute your IP though China and then tie in a connection to NK? Would it be unprecedented?
But forget all that. What I'm really concerned about is the motive. This isn't 9/11 conspiracy **** where the facts are plainly obvious. There's ties, three to be specific, that the FBI found but none of them explain the original motive which we have on record.
Let's assume the FBI investigation is true, then what is the explanation for the switch in motives? Did North Korea originally plan to steal the Interview under the guise of extortion but fail, forcing them to show their hand? If they hired someone, did those people want some extra money? And what would happen if Sony paid? Did they know they wouldn't? And why threaten the public about the movie specifically? Didn't they know that motive would easily conclude them as a suspect? What the **** was the point of all this?!
Now if we don't believe their investigations, things are more logical. The hackers wanted money. They didn't get it and hacked Sony. After the breach, the message and I'm paraphrasing "You did this to yourself" makes sense. But the media, with a lack of information, suspected North Korea because of a statement from the summer declaring the Interview an "act of war". Then and only then do the hackers ever mention the Interview as a motive...after the idea is floated. And we know the rest of the story.
Now there is one piece of information that doesn't make sense from this stand point either. The hackers took several movies that were about to release and threw them on the internet via torrent. One would assume the Interview would show up as well, as all the other movies were from the month of December, but it didn't. This gives more credence that the FBI is right. That it was about the Interview. But the damn timeline...it makes no sense.
Would North Korea really just try to extort cash from Sony? Would hired goons try to extort cash AND go through with the hack even if Sony complied? And did they gain access to the movie when they stole several others? If they did, why didn't they just delete it? Would it be obvious that they were part of the attack? Then why threaten movie goers for seeing it? None of this makes any sense. And even a dip **** like Kim Jong Un would ask why? Why was all of this necessary?
Then again he probably wouldn't know what the **** is going on and shake his head agreeably then clap overzealously.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 24, 2014, 04:01:18 AM
I'm fairly certain the FBI is aware of techniques used to spoof IPs. There's no reason they had to say anything about it, but they voluntarily and pretty strongly said it was coming from North Korea. There's definitely a possibility that only part of it was them, with whoever else piggybacking off it, but I'd be pretty shocked at this point if none of it was them.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 24, 2014, 07:29:30 AM
The FBI is filling in the truthiness hole left by Colbert. North Korea was never mentioned as a culprit until the media latched on to them, giving Sony and the FBI an easy out. The hackers never mentioned North Korea or The Interview in their original statement, and their attempts at broken English and Google Translate to Korean don't pass the smell test.
Sony in their statements have called this an "act of cyber terrorism", which is an insanely stupid thing to say. They're skipping out on their responsibility, and if it leads to terrible legislation, we're all screwed.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Ceric on December 24, 2014, 09:54:33 AM
For me the timeline fits better if you go from the idea that the hackers targeted Sony with the idea that The Interview in particular might be a lucrative commodity to sell to North Korea.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 24, 2014, 10:17:46 AM
The other idea is that the money was a red herring...a false demand, to see how Sony would respond...or something added by the hackers for NK, but not part of the officially sactioned demands...or to even throw suspicion off of NK.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Triforce Hermit on December 24, 2014, 10:38:44 AM
I thought it was pissed off ex-Sony employees. They got a little help through NK to **** with Sony. NK just wanted the movie gone. The ex-Sony employees wanted a little revenge and to show off the skeletons in the closet. I find it hard to believe that this is entirely one faction because a lot of this makes no sense if it is. Unless ex-Sony employees mimic NK's hacking methods.
If this is entirely ex-Sony employees exclusively, then what they are doing with the Interview is seeing how far they can push before they get told no. You know, today is the Interview, tomorrow is whatever.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 24, 2014, 11:07:17 AM
The Interview was a special case, which allowed people to make a connection. The hackers can't really make the same demands with say, an Adam Sandler movie.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 24, 2014, 11:15:53 AM
Or the whole Interview movie to hide their tracks. Another scary idea is this has nothing to do with The Interview or North Korea, but to avoid a panic from a huge cyber attack the FBI and Sony lied about North Korea's involvement.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 24, 2014, 11:18:02 AM
I just can't see them purposely lying about DPRK involvement. Seems like that would be a pretty bad move, politically and such.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 24, 2014, 11:33:14 AM
The Interview will (reportedly) be available to rent on YouTube. Which, of course means, it will be available to anyone for free a couple of hours later.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on December 24, 2014, 11:44:52 AM
It's weird what the Department of Defense has paid for over the years: GPS, Roombas, microwaves.
Weird.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Soren on December 24, 2014, 12:24:57 PM
$6 to rent. $15 to own.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 24, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
Might as well buy it for $15, cheaper than two tickets.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2014, 03:24:15 PM
Quote from: Press Release
Sony Pictures To Distribute “The Interview” Online Beginning Christmas Eve Through Google Play, YouTube Movies, Microsoft’s Xbox Video and Dedicated Website
Film To Be Widely Available On Demand Throughout The United States
[Culver City, CA – December 24, 2014] Sony Pictures Entertainment announced that The Interview will be available online across the United States starting today, Christmas Eve.
As of 10:00 a.m. PST, the film will be available to rent in HD on Google Play, YouTube Movies, Microsoft’s Xbox Video and the dedicated website http://www.seetheinterview.com at a price of $5.99. The film can also be purchased in HD for $14.99.
“It has always been Sony’s intention to have a national platform on which to release this film,” said Michael Lynton, Chairman and CEO of Sony Entertainment. “With that in mind, we reached out to Google, Microsoft and other partners last Wednesday, December 17th, when it became clear our initial release plans were not possible. We are pleased we can now join with our partners to offer the film nation-wide today.
“We never stopped pursuing as wide a release as possible for The Interview. It was essential for our studio to release this movie, especially given the assault upon our business and our employees by those who wanted to stop free speech. We chose the path of digital distribution first so as to reach as many people as possible on opening day, and we continue to seek other partners and platforms to further expand the release.”
“I want to thank Google and Microsoft for helping make this a reality. This release represents our commitment to our filmmakers and free speech. While we couldn’t have predicted the road this movie traveled to get to this moment, I’m proud our fight was not for nothing and that cyber criminals were not able to silence us.
“No doubt the issues we have confronted these last few weeks will not end with this release, but we are gratified to have stood together and confident in our future. I want to thank everyone at Sony Pictures for their dedication and perseverance through what has been an extraordinary and difficult time.”
Fans can watch The Interview on several platforms including:
· Google Play: the movie is available to buy or rent at play.google.com, and can be watched in the Play Movies & TV app on Android and iOS phones or tablets, or streamed in the living room via Chromecast, Roku or the Nexus Player. · YouTube: the movie is available at youtube.com/movies and can be watched on the web, in the YouTube app, or on select living room devices like Chromecast, Apple TV, PlayStation and Xbox. · Microsoft’s Xbox Video: the movie is available to buy or rent on the Xbox Video app on Xbox One, Xbox 360, Windows 8, Windows Phone 8 and XboxVideo.com. · SeetheInterview.com: In addition, The Interview is available at the dedicated website http://www.seetheinterview.com, which is sponsored by Sony Pictures and powered by Kernel and with payments through Stripe, a secure payment platform.
In addition to Google Play, YouTube, Microsoft and http://www.seetheinterview.com, The Interview is also being released in more than 300 United States theaters on December 25th.
Everyone be safe in your bunkers as you watch from home. Best Korea is preparing their retalliation.
(http://i.imgur.com/0stDUxm.gif)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 24, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
Well, I know what I'm doing tonight.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 24, 2014, 07:54:02 PM
It's weird what the Department of Defense has paid for over the years: GPS, Roombas, microwaves. Weird.
GPS isn't weird at all. The military applications and benefits of that are pretty immediately obvious.
GPS is obvious. Microwaves for cooking was an accident but, the ability to fastly prepare food is also a good benefit. Roombas would be a stepping stone technology.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 25, 2014, 12:36:24 PM
Google's Doodle (it links to it on Google Play) today.
(http://i.imgur.com/yyvX8H6.png?1)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 27, 2014, 08:40:55 AM
I don't know if this is related or not but I can't access any of my Sony movies through Ultra Violet anymore. I sent out emails hopefully I can just get some iTunes codes instead and UltraViolet can do to hell where it belongs. It shows my library and tells me what movies I own but won't let me watch or download anything.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Triforce Hermit on December 27, 2014, 11:58:33 AM
North Korea denies involvement, blames U.S for shutting down NK's internet (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/11314300/North-Korea-calls-Obama-a-monkey-in-latest-hacking-salvo.html)
To be fair, North Korea is insane. So who the hell knows. The U.S did likely shut their internet down though.
In other news, the hackers of XBL and PSN also released The Interview for free download. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2888339/Hackers-release-cache-13-000-passwords-credit-cards-Playstation-Xbox-Amazon-users.html)
So what the **** is going on here? It just seems like a mess at this point. Hackers are messing with other hackers by releasing a movie the other hackers didn't want out. Or maybe its the same group and they are trying to confuse everyone. I actually would believe the Lizard Squad is responsible for both and that they are just trying to make it seem like there are two different factions at work.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ObbyDent on December 27, 2014, 12:50:08 PM
Of course NK denies involvement. Who the **** would admit to that?
"Yes, America, we did threaten to blow up your theaters '9/11' style of Christmas Day. No harm, no foul, right?"
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 27, 2014, 01:02:21 PM
The XBL and PSN outage had nothing to do with Sony Pictures being hacked. Lizard whatever announced those plans a while ago, and Kim Dotcom got them to stop with...Mega Privacy vouchers.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 27, 2014, 06:57:29 PM
North Koreans trying to pay top dollar for copies of The Interview. http://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-demand-for-the-interview-2014-12
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: UncleBob on December 27, 2014, 07:07:37 PM
I wonder if Great Leader has seen the movie.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Shaymin on December 27, 2014, 08:28:34 PM
Whether or not NK actually did it, that's going to be the story because Sony looks really stupid if they admit that three script kiddies in a net cafe in Georgia* got the keys to the kingdom.
* The former Soviet republic, not the US state. I'm not sure how much of the state has internet
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2014, 06:08:29 PM
Theory: Sony Hack really an inside job!? https://securityledger.com/2014/12/new-clues-in-sony-hack-point-to-insiders-away-from-dprk/
If true, I'll just say I knew it. The north Korea angle just seemed tacked on after the fact once the media latched onto it. Didn't seem right to me. I figure at least one insider had to be involved. Whether or not NK was involved in some form or another is still up for debate though.
Edit: http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN0K71FK20141229?irpc=932 US suspects that N. Korea had help in the hacks. It had to be an insider/ex employee.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 29, 2014, 07:05:51 PM
I am beginning to think this was all fake. I would not be surprised is this was a marketing ploy gone very wrong.
Sony thought that they could hype up their movie with a "real hack." I would not be surprised if in the end all the information leaked was fake...and all these stories were advertisements for the movie.
The biggest clue to this would be the hackers themselves talking about a Christmas Present on Christmas Day and then we got the movie that nobody was supposed to because supposedly Sony won.
Now, you might say what about all the damages and movie leaks...perhaps they believed that the release of those movies wouldn't truly have a negative effect. I dunno...I just feel this could all be fake.
On the other hand, if it is real...and not North Korea...somebody is going to get caught and go to jail...only to be hired by the government to see how he did it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 29, 2014, 10:06:18 PM
There is no possible way that this is any form of a publicity stunt. This caused irreparable harm to the company and revealed several of their executives to be complete assholes, and released many names, addresses, social security numbers, etc.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stogi on December 29, 2014, 10:35:59 PM
A restructuring of the company? Many fired? Ex-employees disgruntled? This sounds like a logical motive, more so than anything that's come before it, so I'm more inclined to believe it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2015, 07:20:08 PM
Sony mad at Netflix for allowing their paying "pirating" users to access content across international borders.... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/sony-pictures-mad-at-netflixs-failure-to-block-overseas-vpn-users/
I would do it if I could get it to work for free. I don't really equate it to piracy, as I paid for access to Netflix. Seems more like an immoral loophole than an illegal act to me.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 03, 2015, 07:47:58 PM
Sony mad at Netflix for allowing their paying "pirating" users to access content across international borders.... http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/12/sony-pictures-mad-at-netflixs-failure-to-block-overseas-vpn-users/
I would do it if I could get it to work for free. I don't really equate it to piracy, as I paid for access to Netflix. Seems more like an immoral loophole than an illegal act to me.
This really bothers me. I live in South Korea…and technically I shouldn't be using iTunes or anything to access media not released in South Korea. But, I try to buy all my media I watch. Very rarely do I Bit Torrent, and I have watched some shows streaming online that I question the legality, but I almost always buy my shows off of iTunes. But It if Sony or anyone else starts to limit IP location downloads then I am going to be upset. Media needs to understand the era they are living in and change. Universal release dates. Let a single service or such be used world wide. Don't limit us by borders, because honestly some people travel or live abroad.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2015, 08:14:24 PM
not to mention that the very people they are mad at for VPNing across borders to access **** that is "available" yet not "available" on a service they have paid for, would only resort to finding it in other ways that cost them nothing at all should the convenience of a paid for legal service providing it all cataloged for them be taken away.
and whether or not they think they should be charging International streaming rights to Netflix for not blocking international streaming... well, maybe they should sit down with Netflix and work that out at a more reasonable price instead of potentially accepting nothing at all from all the people that will find a way regardless. Netflix has done the bare minimum beyond what is legally required of them in this instance, and personally I don't blame them. Where there is a will, there is a way, and blocking paying customers from finding additional value out of their service (through their own efforts and not at Netfllx's expense) is not in Netflix's best interest, regardless of the hardball that content providers want to play.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Stratos on January 03, 2015, 08:23:02 PM
It is the dying grip of a giant that does not realize it's time has come to a close.
I also try to be legal in how I acquire media (for the most part). But sometimes I am driven to alternative means because of dated media distribution. I wanted a special CD from a different country. It was never released in America. I found it on iTunes -but only in another country's region! It barred me from paying for it and a physical import is ~$25-30. It is little wonder people are driven to piracy when you actively block their honest purchases. I pirated that CD and later a similar collection of songs released in the states. I bought it to show my support for the band.
This article shows me to not buy anything digital from Sony.I see where they stand, calling consumers pirates. I hope Netflix and others keep the pressure on these media giants. Digital distribution should transcend traditional borders. Especially where they is no harm caused by the product being purchased.
Judging from Sony's current state, I think the right pressure could force them to adapt fully or perish.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 04, 2015, 12:00:08 PM
well they are supposed to run my story tomorrow. I will try to get a video to share if they do. We had to cut the part referencing Sony out though, so its now just a story about internet security.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2015, 08:09:53 PM
This happened because of the Sony Hack, so I'll put it here.
Amy Pascal steps down -> start her own sub-Sony production company that is in charge of a few properties at Sony, such as Spider-man. Spider-Man IP is now in co-production with Marvel Studios and before anyone ask, Marvel is the majority shot caller here. Amy/Sony is the money and the marketing. Marvel is the creative and the production.
So Sony hired a new head of Sony Pictures: Tom Rothman. http://deadline.com/2015/02/tom-rothman-replaces-amy-pascal-sony-1201380416/ (http://deadline.com/2015/02/tom-rothman-replaces-amy-pascal-sony-1201380416/)
who is Tom Rothman though? former head of Fox.
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It came down to Tom Rothman and Doug Belgrad, and someone had to lose in the battle to succeed Amy Pascal. Sony Pictures Entertainment chairman and CEO Michael Lynton today went with Rothman, the head of TriStar and former longtime co-leader of 20th Century Fox’s filmed entertainment division. Rothman this morning was named chairman of SPE’s Motion Picture Group.
Quote from: Devin Faraci of Badass Digest
Rothman used to run Fox during one of the great studio's low periods. He was cheap, so the movies often made money, but Fox was turning out absolute **** during his tenure. What's more, Rothman hates superhero movies, and he personally blocked a Deadpool film and refused to allow Sentinels to be used in an X-Men film. Like, he said in a meeting 'no giant robots.' Rothman became famous among nerds for micromanaging X-Men Origins: Wolverine to the point where he demanded sets be repainted without telling director Gavin Hood. It's pretty likely that the Marvel/Fox split (which is so ugly I can't even tell you - the two companies literally trolled each other in the media, which is what led to that Galactus being swapped for Daredevil story at one point) has a lot to do with Rothman.
and here is a list found at GAF detailing some of Rothmans more famous doings.
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Things that Fox under Tom Rothman's eye has been bashed for (as far as I know): *Editing "Die Hard 4" to make it a PG-13 film even though the previous three, had been R-rated. This pretty much meant that Bruce Willis couldn't say John McClaine's trademark "Yippie-ki-ya, mother ****er!" line as it was fully intended.
*The mismanagement of the production for "X-Men 3". For instance: **Not waiting for Bryan Singer to finish working on "Superman Returns", and not having a replacement director until I believe weeks before filming was due to start. And when a director is finally hired, it's Brett Ratner, who has grown a reputation for being a hack, douchbag, MTV music video, action director.
**Not waiting for several actors (e.g. James Marsden, Rebecca Romjin, and Anna Paquin) to take care of prior engagements before filming. For in the process, certain characters were "killed off" as a matter of convinence.
**Seemingly rushing the production as means of retailiating against Bryan Singer for heading off to make "Superman Returns" (which also opened in the summer of 2006).
**Tom Rothman also allegedly didn't want Sentinels (the gigantic, mutant hunting robots) appearing in an X-Men film because he believed that audiences would immediately think that giant robots appearing in live-action would be too "silly". This was of course, before "Transformers" (a movie for which Tom Rothman allegedly turned down) came out.
*Ordering Ridley Scott to edit his movie "Kingdom of Heaven" to make it look like a more formulaic action-adventure film, when Scott intended for it to be much deeper.
*Having "Daredevil" edited to make it appear more like a summer blockbuster (i.e. more CGI) in the mode of "Spider-Man". "Daredevil" was initially conceived as a more violent, R-rated film in the mold of Frank Miller's run with the comics.
*Not giving the "Fantastic Four" films a better budget, to go along with hirining Tim Story (who is primarily known as a comedic director rather than a sci-fi, action-adventure director) and aiming for a campy, cookie-cutter, sitcomy feel. Rothman also allegedly thought that it would be better for us to see Galactus as a cloud.
*Trashing plans for an "ID4" sequel.
*Browbeating "LXG" director Stephen Norrington until he quit the business altogether. Rothman also allegedly almost convinced "I, Robot" director Alex Proyas to give up filmmaking.
- Tried to ruin X-Men (2000) by cutting down budget and moving the release date from November 2000 to May 2000.
- X2's budget get cut down too.
- Said no to Alien 5 by James Cameron and Ridley Scott because "We have a good script for AVP."
- Burton's Planet of the Apes remake being rushed into production. Which resulted Burton's comment "I'd rather jump out of a window than do Planet of the Apes 2."
but Rothman did a lot of good to the bottom line while he was there, just not when it came to comic or fantastical movies.
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From 2000-2012, Tom Rothman was chairman and CEO of Fox Filmed Entertainment (FFE).[4] FFE includes 20th Century Fox, Fox Searchlight Pictures, Blue Sky Animation, and Twentieth Century Fox Television.[4][11][14][15] During this time, the studio was nominated for over 150 Academy Awards, won three Best Picture Oscars, earned over $30 billion in worldwide box office sales.[11][15][17] Fox had the best profit margins of any movie studio.[7] Some of the films produced over Rothman's tenure include: Lincoln, Life of Pi, Descendants, Cast Away, Master and Commander, Black Swan, Walk the Line, Juno, The Devil Wears Prada, The X-Men series, the Ice Age series, Rio, and several others.[19] Under Rothman’s leadership, Fox produced Modern Family, Glee, and Homeland.
oh, and according to Latino-review, Feige/Marvel already insulated all Spider-man related productions from outside Sony influence. so no worries there. http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=43091.msg863497#msg863497
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2015, 03:29:26 AM
Wikileaks decided to archive all the Sony leaks into something searchable by subject.
https://wikileaks.org/sony/emails/emailid/82585
that link takes you to the Drew Goddard email regarding Daredevil for Netflix and Sinister Six of Sony.
there was some drama, and Drew was about to get paid, but it sounds like it got resolved.... not sure if he still got paid out though... there was a lot of money coming his way from Sony if things had worked out.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Shaymin on April 18, 2015, 08:37:35 AM
The most interesting emails are the ones where Wheel and Jeopardy are almost fully digitized (yay!) and they want to charge $150 for a DVD (eff you).
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2015, 12:50:41 AM
More Spidey-related Sony news from the leaked emails... http://www.spidermancrawlspace.com/2015/04/19/sonys-amazing-spider-man-franchise-plans-part-one-the-sequels/
So glad Marvel got back infront of this one. Sony didn't know what it wanted, or how to execute it properly.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2018, 10:15:20 AM
Another email has leaked, this one from Amy Pascal
and good thing Marvel and Feige got the deal they did.... Sony had some delusions towards Spider-Man as a franchise. It's a shame they couldn't agree on a reasonable price to sell/buy outright
(http://i.imgur.com/meul9vj.jpg)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on August 02, 2018, 12:17:11 PM
Wow. So, they thought the Sinister Six movie was gonna hit $2 billion?! And bringing back Toby Macguire would also be $2 billion?!
LOL
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 02, 2018, 01:19:09 PM
Wow how fucking stupid can they be?
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2018, 01:46:43 PM
Marvel should have gave them $2B, and let them make 3 animated movies in a 7 year span to just get the rights back for good.
Maybe even throw in a depreciating participation on the next Spidey trilogy, just to ease the separation. I'm sure Sony would have bit on that.
But to answer the question directly.... they thought Sinister Six, after the declining returns and a "net gain of $35M" on ASM2, was somehow going to reach $2B
They also planned 7 more rapid-fire Spidey movies, which included an Emma Stone as Carnage and a Tobey vs Andrew movie, to finally make it to $2B in movie profits off the Spidey License (that's how I read it atleast - total of 12 spidey movies), and they thought that sharing the license with Marvel and letting them do all the work while they sit back and profit I guess benefited Marvel more than them?
So pretty damn stupid. Hopefully if Venom bombs, they are smart enough to just sit back and let Marvel do what they do, or just take the quick cash and release the license with some limited time exclusive profit sharing.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Shorty McNostril on August 02, 2018, 03:38:11 PM
I just saw the horrific spelling and started convulsing.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2018, 04:04:49 PM
I seen some questioning of the legitimacy of this email.... apparently it had to be after the initial leak.
But assuming that last part is true, and Marvel is doing this through 2020, where they then have the option to pay $2B to get the rights back in full, then it makes sense why Sony is quick to push out all these spidey-less movies, such as Venom, Silver & Black, Kraven, as they too are on a time limit to milk the franchise, which is also why they don't care that Spidey ain't in them.
how they they they get to $12B in profit in that time, I have no idea, I'm not even sure how they get to $12B in gross, much less profits, but that's not my field of expertise.....
This could also be why Sony and Marvel technically have 3 pic solo Spidey deal, but supposedly the 3rd movie isn't guaranteed (Sony Option or something, iirc), and why there was only concrete plans for the first 2 movies.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: nickmitch on August 02, 2018, 04:16:05 PM
If they're using that as a cumulative number, then it makes more sense, but they're clearly going for volume on diminishing returns, which is dumb business.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2018, 09:32:34 PM
If they're using that as a cumulative number, then it makes more sense, but they're clearly going for volume on diminishing returns, which is dumb business.
Well, there's already been 6 Spider-man movies, and they are no where near $6B in profit, and not that close to $6B Gross. It's right around $4.8B over 6 movies, and SMH is $10M behind the highest grossing SM film yet (SM3 = $890M). They need to average over $12B for the next 6 SM movies.
I realize this was supposedly 2 years ago, but that number is still absurd to think they were going to average $1B GROSS for each movie and just stupid if they meant $1B profit per movie. LOL But I guess they did plan to make $2B on Sinister 6 and $2B from selling SM to Marvel.... so maybe that's all included.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ThePerm on August 03, 2018, 01:49:07 AM
I've read some of their other e-mails. Par for the course. Amy Pascal was super out of touch. They seem unreal, but not in her context.
This Venom movie looks super bad, but not so bad it will convince some rubes to sit in the seats. 2 billion seems like a good deal for Marvel. It's shitty terrible deal, but way better than one I would expect. 6 billion is a funny number, I think I said somewhere else that would be the my predicted buyout rate. Which is too much to buy for your own character.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on August 03, 2018, 08:38:47 AM
Disney paid $4 billion each for Marvel and Lucasfilm (slightly more when adjusted for inflation). That said, $2 billion for just Spider-Man seems like an overpay. I imagine such a deal would include the rights to the previous six Spider-Man films and any other related properties like the upcoming Venom movie so it isn’t as egregious as it looks. That may explain why Sony is so adamant to **** out as many Sony Spider-verse movies as it can because more movies makes the $2 billion number more attractive though not in the way Sony thinks. Disney doesn’t care about the non-MCU movies. Disney wants Sony to stop damaging the brand with subpar content, confusing people with non-MCU Spider-Man releases, riding the coattails of Marvel Studios hard work etc. In a way, Disney would be overpaying Sony to go away.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 03, 2018, 10:43:05 AM
$2B is not too much to ask for just Spider-man, even if it is just for the theatrical rights. To regain full control of Spider-man has to be extremely valuable from a marketing standpoint, and merchandise sales alone from whatever movie(s) and other media he appears in has to be worth the cost.
I know this chart is outdated, but SM makes bank (https://i.imgur.com/B3C4uOj.png) so as you said, the cost of stopping Sony from fucking up their ability to market SM and all his associated characters with movies associated to the biggest money making series ever in the MCU has to be worth that $2B alone.
edit: and I'm adding this just because it relevant, and Sony should stop trying to sabotage the franchise (stop protecting Avi Arad's job as your comic movie specialist.....). try to work WITH Marvel Studios, and not make movies that possibly limit them behind their back. Imagine how much HYPE Venom could have if not only did it get that "in collaboration with Marvel Studios" banner, instead of just "Marvel" and then you also get to use SM in costume, and not just the rumored "Peter Parker" cameo. (https://i.imgur.com/7Pu3rOB.gif)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Adrock on August 03, 2018, 11:03:49 AM
I just meant upon first glance $2 billion looks like too much especially given that the rest of Marvel (minus movie rights to Hulk, X-Men, and Fantastic Four etc.) is about $2.7 billion more in 2018 dollars. Once we break down what Disney would be paying for, it starts making a bit more sense. A portion of that $2 billion would be Disney “saving” the Spider-Man brand from Sony’s gross incompetence. In the long run, it’ll be worth it.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ThePerm on August 04, 2018, 12:34:38 AM
I also think Spider-man i getting the real Symbiote suite in the next movie. Sony can have their catwomen venom movie, but Marvel will move on with that by the time they get the rights back.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 04, 2018, 08:17:36 AM
My prediction is that Marvel avoids the whole symbiote thing - Venom ends up being pretty good and Marvel gets the rights back to everything in 2020. They make a Venom sequel with Spider-Man in it, but this time Venom is the bad guy (at least in Spider-Man's view) up until near the end of the movie. They fight, the Symbiote gets ahold of Spider-Man for a bit before he's able to reject it finally, it goes back to Eddie and now he has the white spider logo. The 3rd Venom movie is also the 3rd Spider-Man movie and it's Maximum Carnage. MAKE THIS HAPPEN THANK YOU.
Title: Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters..... good thing they weren't named Fony
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2018, 02:57:04 PM
So Sony may be aiming to make a Venom a "Hard PG-13" instead of a R rated movie. They still have delusions that Marvel will somehow include Venom into the MCU through the use of Spider-man and other said Marvel CU characters. (Tom Holland and Spider-man is not in this movie) Having a PG-13 rating may make that pitch easier, is their reasoning.
If Venom does well, they have a Morbius, Silver Sable, Black Cat, Silk, Kraven, and several other C/D-list character movies planned.
Silver and Black's director decided to depart, but wants to stay on as Producer for the movies being split into 2 solo movies instead.....
They also refer to this series of movies as "Sony's Universe of Marvel Characters" or SUMC for short. It's a good thing Sony wasn't actually called Fony, otherwise that abbreviation may actually say what I think they mean F-U-MC (Marvel Comics)
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: Shorty McNostril on August 10, 2018, 01:44:23 AM
The non R rating is excellent for squeamish me. I'm most pleased.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ThePerm on August 11, 2018, 01:15:24 AM
My biggest problem with the new Venom trailers is it elevates Topher Grace's Venom. Tom Hardy is playing that same slow character from The Drop.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 11, 2018, 04:43:26 PM
Venom bites this guys head off in the trailer.... well, it cuts before we see anything happen. The question is, in the movie, do they show it?
If it's all implied like it is in the trailer than it's fine. I just don't want to graphically see the head removed and blood and gore hosing out everywhere.
Title: Re: Breaking News: Sony Pictures Servers Hacked
Post by: ShyGuy on August 12, 2018, 12:25:41 AM
