Topic: REVIEWS: Sonic Unleashed

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

Sega could launch a new console thanks to Mario&Sonic success.

[Plugabugz]

All I can hope for now is that Sonic and the Black Knight is at the same level of Secret Rings.

The Sonic Cycle starts again.

[NWR_pap64]

Sonic Heroes shows up at the highest there (74%).

Sorry, this data has to be THROWN OUT.

The numbers are for the GC version. The PS2 and XBOX version received the worst numbers, with the belief that the GC version was superior.

[trip1eX]

Nothing against the score except in relation to his other scores.  Shouldn't gameplay be a 4 too then?  It just seems the 4 makes scoring the other categories irrelevant.  Why bother then?

The gameplay is an even split of good and bad for me, even though that even split is altered in the final score.

Well that's the problem.  The scoring isn't consistently figured out the same way. 

And if the subscores don't have much to do with the final score then why bother with them? 

Do I need to know the graphics are a 9 if the game is a 4?   

It's a larger issue.  NOt just this review mind you.

Kind of like the Animal Crossing review.  It got a 10 for lastability, but the author scored it a 7.5 or something overall based on it mostly being the same game as on the DS.  That scoring seemed inconsistent too.    Hey it's the same game you played, but it will last you a long time?!???! 

[vudu]

That's the reason why a review is more than a series of numbers.

I've never played an Animal Crossing game before so I wouldn't mind that it's essentially the same as the previous two games.  (I'm not going to play it for other reasons, but that's a topic for another thread.) 

[NWR_Neal]

trip1eX, I get what you mean, and it is a much larger issue.

It is a very tricky rope to walk across because it all comes down to the whole "greater/less than the sum of its parts?" argument. In this case, while the game looked beautiful, sounded decent, and controlled fine, it just wasn't fun to play. I'll also still stand by my reasoning for the gameplay score and the final score. Half of the gameplay was good and half of it was bad. About 40% or so of the final game was good and the rest was bad.

As a note to everyone that's speaking up about this review and its scores, I'm enjoying this thread even though my review's getting questioned. None of you guys are throwing out personal attacks, and that's great.

Note: After saying that, this is probably going to get slammed by some Sonic fan site.

[IceCold]

Tokyo EAD could make the best Sonic game ever.

[NWR_Lindy]

Neal, you suck and you're the worst reviewer ever.  I JUST BROKE THE THREAD

We'll be reviewing our review process soon.  I think it's time to tinker with it a bit.

[NWR_Neal]

IceCold - totally. Sonic Team can't make a good Sonic game anymore. I'm convinced.

Does that mean we can give our review process an arbitrary score?

Graphics: 2.0

The presentation of our review process is very plain. It's all a bunch of text. Text is boring.

Sound: 0.0

There is none. Lame!

Final: 5.0

[GoldenPhoenix]

The review and the reviewer is stoopid and has a goofy face

[NWR_insanolord]

Tokyo EAD could make the best Sonic game ever.

You could replace the word Sonic in that sentence with any word or phrase and it would be just as true.

[Peachylala]

I still stand by my belief that Yuji Naka and Sega of Japan ruined Sonic after that Sonic X-Treme tragedy.

I wonder what Hirokazu Yasahara is up to, he was the level designer for all three Genesis Sonic games (and he helped out a bit on X-Treme). Maybe Sega should ask him for help?

[Schadenfreude]

Tokyo EAD could make the best Sonic game ever.

You could replace the word Sonic in that sentence with any word or phrase and it would be just as true.

I don't think Halo, Half-life or numerous other games would work.

[Luigi Dude]

I still stand by my belief that Yuji Naka and Sega of Japan ruined Sonic after that Sonic X-Treme tragedy.

Actually that's a well known fact.  That incident showed that the higher ups at Sega didn't give a sh!t about Sonic since he was never popular in Japan.  Which is why Sega has never allowed Sonic Team to have enough time to properly even finish developement of a 3d Sonic, and that's why every single 3d Sonic game was a rushed, buggy mess.

Now some of these messes were better then others, but when the best 3d Sonic game is only mediocre, that says something about how poor the quality of the series is.

Oh well, now we wait until Black Knight comes out and the Sonic Cycle starts to move again.  Of course in Black Knights case everyone started hating on it when it was first show and then started liking the idea when more info came out.  In the other cases like Unleashed, people like the game right away and then start hating when more info comes out.  Does this mean the Cycle has been broken?

Probably not but right now we can still hope at least. 

[MegaByte]

Given our site's policies, I don't see how that final score was produced.  5 on our site means an even amount of good and bad.  4 implies that there's more wrong with the game than there is right.  Given all of the praise in the other areas, and nothing glaringly broken (just unsatisfactory), I don't see how it could be below a 5.  "Almost halfway to being a good game" does not mean almost halfway to a 10.  I actually think Neal's original score rather than the edited one was proper and was shocked to see the final version.  Even given TYP's score formula, which seems reasonable, I don't think the werehog portions were bad enough to warrant something as low as a 2.

[trip1eX]

I'm just poking fun at the scoring system. 

[GoldenPhoenix]

best 3d Sonic game is only mediocre

Sonic Adventure was great.

[Schadenfreude]

best 3d Sonic game is only mediocre

Sonic Adventure was great.

Was it great or only good? It did have Big the Cat.

[GoldenPhoenix]

best 3d Sonic game is only mediocre

Sonic Adventure was great.

Was it great or only good? It did have Big the Cat.

I loved fishing.

[DAaaMan64]

Sonic Adventure 2 is bestest.

[NWR_Neal]

Even given TYP's score formula, which seems reasonable, I don't think the werehog portions were bad enough to warrant something as low as a 2.

I do.
I've played some bad games over the years, but the Werehog portion of Sonic Unleashed was one of my least favorite experiences. And it is the majority of the game. My distaste with this game might be enlarged by my past love for Sonic games but even still, this game is a very bad overall package.

[Jonnyboy117]

I hate all the 3D Sonic games.  Every single one.  The idea that Sega should aim for recreating the "magic" of Sonic Adventure is so sad.  They should move forward and do something new, different, and better, not look backwards to a mediocre and overrated launch title that is now approaching ten years old.

[NWR_Neal]

While I enjoyed Sonic Adventure 1 and 2 (much in the way I enjoyed movies like the Ice Pirates and Battlefield Baseball), Jonny is so right.
My favorite game in the series still stands as Sonic 2, and even that doesn't hold up as well as I thought.

[Peachylala]

Actually that's a well known fact.  That incident showed that the higher ups at Sega didn't give a sh!t about Sonic since he was never popular in Japan.  Which is why Sega has never allowed Sonic Team to have enough time to properly even finish developement of a 3d Sonic, and that's why every single 3d Sonic game was a rushed, buggy mess.

It's always been common knowledge that a vast majority of Sega's more famous Sonic Team icons (Sonic, NiGHTS) have a bigger fanbase in America and Europe, and we are the most vocal of them.

To bad they don't listen to us.

[Nick DiMola]

I agree with Jonny. All 3D Sonic games suck and it appears this one is no exception. Maybe if we scream at Sega loud enough, they will eventually get the message that Sonic is meant to be in 2D.