Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Luigi Dude]

The 360 has had a slight increase in Japan, but that's not saying much.  Microsoft's sales increase in Japan is like scoring a 12% on a test, and then retaking it and scoring a 17%.  Even though your test score has improved, it's still a huge failure, just like the 360 in Japan.

[Kairon]

360 hardware sales are dead. 360 software sales can rely on around 80k to 200k sales at max.

[Ceric]

Yes but a test is just a stand alone unit and there are not nearly as many.  What we are starting to see is consistent growth.  Its not sudden growth mind you but it is consistent growth.  While the PS3 on the other hand has some wild swings and is on a decrease.  Over time a consistent week to week growth in the number of units that you actually sell will equal a fairly sizeable amount for the year.  So it might only be around 177 units more each week compared to the previous week.  It all adds up.  So I would not say that the Hardware Sales are dead in the least until I start seeing at least a leveling off if not aa consistent decrease or sales levels much like the original XBox, which sold in the 3 digits per week not 4.

[Kairon]

The XBox 360 sells about 2000 units a week. That's dead enough for me.

[Mr. Magus]

Mr. Magus is pleased with the Wii's progression. Mr. Magus is certain they will keep up the momentum and become the number 1 console of this generation and take back their place as the rightful king's of gaming.

[31 Flavas]

Morbo is pleased that you are pleased with Wii's progression. Tremble puny humans, the Wii will destroy you all!

[Chozo Ghost]

Maybe if Microsoft would put out more games the Japanese market actually cares about they would do quite well over there. Halo means nothing over there, so they need something else. Where is the 'Microsoft Dogs' or '360 Sports'? Microsoft has more money than just about anyone, so why can't they make good non-FPS games a reality for their system?

[Ceric]

It sort of like why there really popular Flight Simulator hasn't made an appearance on any of there consoles.  We know they are not adverse to special controllers.

[Darc Requiem]

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Originally posted by: nintendogamecube86
Nobody should EVER use NexGenWars or VGChartz. Both sites are well known for making up BS numbers and then changing them when the REAL numbers are made known.

Microsoft flooded the market before Christmas so they could say they met their goal of 10 million shipped. That is why they also announced that they would only be shipping 500K Xbox 360's during the entire first six months of 2007.

The Wii has sold about 7.5 million copies already, and at this rate it will easily pass the Xbox 360 worldwide by the end of the year (maybe even by the end of the summer depending on how well it does in North America). It will take a little longer in North America (the only region where the 360 is still doing pretty well), but now it's just a matter of WHEN the Wii becomes #1 rather than IF.

Also, we do get monthly sales data from the NPD. So it's not just Japan that we get regular data from.

Oh, it's pretty interesting that the PS3 has been under 10K in Japan for the last couple of weeks. The PS2 has been out in Japan for over 7 years, and it has only sold less than 10K twice (both times were in November 2000 when the PS2 was suffering a wordwide shortage).

I can't speak to NexGenWars because my limited experience with them leads me to believe your accessment of them making up numbers is accurate. I do frequent the VGChartz forums and your claim of the site just making up numbers is gross inaccurate. VGChartz numbers are usually +/- 10% of the more trusted tracking firms numbers. I'd like you to explain how Ioi of VGChartz pulls weekly sales numbers for all three regions out of his ass and have them consistently mirror Media Crate and NPD numbers? I could see him getting lucky once, but several times? Extremely unlikely.

[Ages]

The only thing that'll bring the Xbox back from the dead in Japan is a couple hundred....thousand...square-enix games.  It's been the only (and I mean only) thing that has caused a blip in 360 sales.

[Deguello]

The VGchartz forums are possibly worse than gamefaqs.  Intelligence is simply not valued.

They make some of our forum twerps here look like geniuses.

[Louieturkey]

Shouldn't we be expecting the NPD numbers for May pretty soon?

[vudu]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
These estimates are not including May NPD which comes out this thursday.

[Louieturkey]

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Originally posted by: vudu

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1
These estimates are not including May NPD which comes out this thursday.

Heh, I go reading everything and I miss that one sentence.  Boy do I feel sheepish.

[Deguello]

Despite my hatred for vgchartz forum, I will support the site's existence, because it gives NPD competition.  Their monopoly coupled with their slapstick methods are why our video game sales numbers suck ass in comparison to Japan's, which has THREE tracking services.

[Ceric]

Media Create, Famitsu, Whose the third?  I know I'm missing one but I can never remember the name.  Also I don't know if the new numbers are out yet.  I know some of you know where to find them on Neogaf.  I think BnM is having comp problems again so I can parse them if need be.

[Kairon]

Well... to be truthful, NPD DOES just poll retailers and make educated guesses.

VG Chartz is nowhere near quotably reliable yet, but they make for an easy source of ROUGH numbers for speculation and casual discussion. I see no harm in that.

[Ceric]

No one told me NeoGaf had Pie Charts and links as well...

[IceCold]

Dengeki?

[Kairon]

Yours are better Ceric.

[ezaphlix]

While we're waiting for the US numbers, why not kill the time for a little Canadian sales...

Wii - 37 300
DS - 35 900
PS2 - 18 200
PSP - 15 000
360 - 12 300
PS3 - 6 500
GBA 6 100


Pokemon Diamond--DS--Nintendo--24,900
Pokemon Pearl--DS--Nintendo--19,500
Mario Party 8--Wii--Nintendo--17,700
Wii Play w/ Wii Remote--Wii--Nintendo--16,000
Spider-Man 3--PS2--Activision--14,500
Forza Motorsport 2--Xbox 360--Microsoft--12,600
Super Paper Mario--Wii--Nintendo--10,000
Command & Conquer 3: Tiberium Wars--Xbox 360--Electronic Arts--9,500
Spider-Man 3--Xbox 360--Activision--9,200
Guitar Hero II--Xbox 360--Activision--9,000

Welcome to Canada, AKA Nintendo...da?  

[Ceric]

Media Create Sales 6/4 - 6/10

01./00. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 10: CR Neon Geneses Evangelion (D3 Publisher) - 80,586 /  New!
02./01. [DS] Practice by Observing: DS Observation Training (Nintendo) - 62,537 / 157,371
03./00. [PSP] Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road (Bandai-Namco) - 44,337 /  New!
04./00. [PSP] Final Fantasy II (Square-Enix) - 36,637 /  New!
05./05. [Wii] Wii Sports (Nintendo) - 29,570 / 1,687,388
06./03. [DS] Moero! Nekketsu Rhythm Damashii: Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan 2 (Nintendo) - 26,078 / 139,988
07./00. [Wii] Harvest Moon: Tree of Peace (Marvelous Interactive) - 21,866 /  New!
08./06. [DS] More Brain Age (Nintendo) - 21,680 / 4,349,623
09./08. [Wii] Wii Play (Nintendo) - 20,897 / 1,376,899
10./07. [DS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo) - 19,715 / 4,519,879

11./02. [Wii] Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition (Capcom)
12./09. [DS] More English Training (Nintendo)
13./13. [DS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
14./10. [DS] Momotarou Dentetsu DS: Tokyo & Japan (Hudson)
15./17. [DS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
16./12. [DS] Kurikin: Nano Island Story (Nintendo)
17./22. [DS] Prof. Layton and the Mysterious Village (Level 5)
18./16. [DS] English Training (Nintendo)
19./15. [DS] Yoshi's Island DS (Nintendo)
20./18. [DS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
21./14. [Wii] Super Paper Mario (Nintendo)
22./11. [PSP] Final Fantasy Tactics: The Lion War (Square-Enix)
23./20. [DS] Kanji Brain Test 2M (IE Institute)
24./00. [DS] Detailed Japanese History B Total Training (Bandai-Namco) New!
25./00. [DS] Stock Trader Shun (Capcom) New!
26./21. [Wii] Big Brain Academy: Wii Degree (Nintendo)
27./25. [DS] Phoenix Wright 4 (Capcom)
28./28. [DS] Kekkaishi: Tale of the Raven Forest (Bandai-Namco)
29./27. [DS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
30./00. [DS] Detailed World History B Total Training (Bandai-Namco) New!
31./31. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
32./32. [DS] Mario vs. Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (Nintendo)
33./34. [DS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokemon)
34./41. [DS] Lucky Star Moé Drill: Travel (Kadokawa Shoten)
35./23. [DS] Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings (Square-Enix)
36./24. [PSP] Bleach: Heat the Soul 4 (Sony)
37./40. [DS] Pokémon Pearl (Pokemon)
38./38. [DS] Dragon Quest Monsters Joker (Square-Enix)
39./36. [DS] Kanji Test (Rocket Co.)
40./19. [DS] Simple DS Series, Vol. 15: THE Police Investigator 2: Eight New Cases (D3 Publisher)
41./39. [DS] Word Puzzle Mojipittan DS (Bandai-Namco)
42./45. [DS] Tetris DS (Nintendo)
43./35. [Wii] Wario Ware Smooth Moves (Nintendo)
44./00. [DS] Suujin Taisen (Nintendo) New!
45./00. [PS2] Magician's Academy (Enterbrain) New!
46./00. [DS] Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Disney Interactive) New!
47./46. [DS] Big Brain Academy (Nintendo)
48./29. [PS2] Shining Wind (Sega)
49./00. [Wii] Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Disney Interactive) New!
50./00. [DS] DS Kageyama Method Electronic Kanji Drills (Shogakukan) New!

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. DS - 117,228 | 123,211 | 3,531,436 | 17,537,115
2. Wii - 64,529 | 69,748 | 1,749,830 | 2,669,473
3. PSP - 24,711 | 26,358 | 978,499 | 5,510,628
4. PS2 - 11,097 | 11,814 | 380,121 | 20,534,980
5. PS3 - 8,776 | 8,998 | 461,955 | 919,513
6. 360 - 2,533 | 2,219 | 104,477 | 369,179
7. GBA - 799 | 573 | 38,951 | 15,337,030
8. GC - 167 | 226 | 8,003 | 4,177,471


# of Games Sold by System (Currently in no order):
Wii- 8 games
DS- 34 games
PS2- 3 games
PSP- 5 games

Number of New Games: 12 games

# First Party Games Split by Company
Nintendo: 23
Sony: 1

First to Third Party Number and Ratios by Company
19 out of 42 or 45% of games Published for a Nintendo System were 3rd Party.
7 out of 8 or 87% of games Published for a Sony System were 3rd Party.
Legend:
Game- Nintendo System
Game- Sony System
Game- Microsoft System
Disclaimer: All of the above non-Media Create links and data were auto-generated from the Media Create Data.  Therefore the accuracy of the links have not been verified.
This is from the newest version of the parser.   BnM is having comp problems from what I gather so I found the data and parsed it.  I thought the bullets would make it look nicer.  All it did was make it look more bloated.  Points to anyone else who can spot the other changes.

I'm also thinking of trying to replace the count with a bar graph if BnM would like.  Just mentioning it so I can get some opinion on whether you guys want that or not.  Though I'm going to ditch the bullets before I send this off to BnM.  

Edit: Updated the numbers and put in the hardware even though Bill beat me to it.  

[Kairon]

You mean replace the "# sold" section with bar graphs? That's a lot of visual real estate to represent 4 small numbers.

Oh, and I hope that RE4 (see #11) can keep its legs going, and that Harvest Moon has legs! They're the only two 3rd party Wii games up there right now!

[Ceric]

Actually it comes out to be the same size even without the bullets.  The bargraphs bars are each 12 pixels high which so happens to be a little bigger then 8 point font but smaller then ten.  Probably be something everyone would have to see though I really don't see it happening because the image would have to be manually linked in so it sort of stream line things less.

Isn't that the new Harvest Moon?

[BlackNMild2k1]

No Computer problems right now, just got home late and decided to make dinner before sitting down at MY computer (it seems like its been soooo long). I don't even have the parser installed on this computer yet anyway, so if you were gonna send me a new one, now would be a good time. And yes NeoGAF has charts and graphs and indepth analysis, but I prefer us to have our own little way of representing things instead.  

edit: nevermind my computer crashed again. back to using the other computer till I get it fixed.