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Offline BigJim

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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #125 on: February 01, 2005, 01:31:43 AM »
They don't spin backwards, but the laser starts from the outside and goes inward.

That is how DVD players read the second layer of DVDs. (They go in-to-out, then go from out-to-in for the 2nd layer).  This implies that the first layer on GC discs is either blank or contains some kind of l33t data. Even to this day it's still not widely known exactly what's on the first layer. Unless I missed the explanation somewhere.

I forgot to mention before that I also heard that the Revolution and xbox2 media capacities were roughly the same... Whether or not that means they actually use the same format, I don't know.

Blu-ray capacity is 50GB, HD-DVD is 30GB. If Nintendo went with blu-ray (or blu-ray-esque) and made the first layer blank again, that would bring the disc close to 25GB... making them almost even. But that's just my speculation.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #126 on: February 01, 2005, 10:49:02 AM »
awsome, good to finaly have this cleared up. in my head anyway.

looks like all three systems are going to be revealed at e3, i hope nintendo's system steals people away from the other two evils.  
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #127 on: February 03, 2005, 05:44:21 AM »
in a sort of way, I've been raised by Nintendo so I'll be loyal. But in the meantime I follow Final Fantasy wherever they are going (I mean Real Final Fantasy, not like mystic quest or Crystal Chronicles) so I'll have to buy a ps3 as well

Yeah you heard me, I like ps3 too but in my heart Nintendo is first so in the console war I'd like to see Nintendo=1st
Sony=2nd....Xbox good LAST.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2005, 06:22:24 AM »
Wait until FF is out before you get the PS3, if Sony fumbles as badly as everyone's expecting FF will go to someone else.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #129 on: February 05, 2005, 05:08:13 PM »
Could Mircosoft buy it if it went up for bids? Or do you think that it would just be 3rd party.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #130 on: February 05, 2005, 05:54:23 PM »
Square-Enix is already a 3rd party...It's just that SE likes being with the market leader...
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #131 on: February 05, 2005, 06:11:32 PM »
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Square-Enix is already a 3rd party...It's just that SE likes being with the market leader...


Yes, but Sony has shares to extend its influence. The Saturn was selling better than the PS in Japan when they made FFIV. If SE are going to move away from Sony, then some sort of financial intervention will probably be required. They'll also likely be asked to make a high-profile title for PS3 launch, which means they'll have experience with PS3 development kits.

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« Reply #132 on: February 05, 2005, 07:30:39 PM »
Once Square merged with Enix, Sony's influence in the company dropped to the point that they don't have much control over them anymore.  They are not the biggest shareholder in Squareenix so the company is free to go wherever it pleases.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #133 on: February 06, 2005, 03:42:15 AM »
Yeah, Sony owns too little to have any influence. If Sony wants to keep Squenix it has to keep the market.
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #134 on: February 06, 2005, 07:30:17 AM »
I have only 2 questions about the Revolution for Noble~Feather and neither one of them has anything to do with the hardware.

My first question is, will the Revolution impress 3rd party developers, or will most 3rd party developers shun the Revolution because its too different.  And my second question is will the Revolution impress the mainstream gaming media?

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #135 on: February 06, 2005, 07:47:08 AM »
I can answer that second question...No, because it's Nintendo... =P
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #136 on: February 06, 2005, 08:13:53 AM »
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My first question is, will the Revolution impress 3rd party developers, or will most 3rd party developers shun the Revolution because its too different. And my second question is will the Revolution impress the mainstream gaming media?


Well, I can't predict the future, but...

1) I have a feeling that some 3rd party publishers will shun Revo, but only the ones who haven't seen a damn thing of it. Once everyone sees Revo, yes, I have a strong feeling 3rd parties will flood there way to the Revo. I know the devs that have seen Revo are very, very, very satisfied with it.

In answer to your Q; YES.

2) I'm not sure how I would answer that, but I'm sure people will except it, even more so than the DS. Also, I can almost assure you we won't see the negativity that we see with the DS.

Keep in mind, I've never seen the Revo in person, but I have been thoroughly explained to about it, so I can concretely give you these details. In other words, I can assure you all of this information.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #137 on: February 06, 2005, 08:21:02 AM »
Note the difference between dev and management wishes. The devs might want to work on that hardware but managem,ent's going to say "no, we want you to make a generic run-off-the-mill game for the PS3 because it's more profitable". If devs were left to do what they want we'd see bucketloads of innovation on the market and much fewer bad games.

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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #138 on: February 06, 2005, 09:24:44 AM »
PS3 is gaining the image of being so costly that one may as well take the chance of developing a game on either of the competing consoles that may not turn out the market leaders with fewer financial requirements for production at risk of not being able to access the same number of gamers as one would be able to access if the game were put on the PS3.  What this is going to cause is Sony's slip from market leader in the console market and their inability to sustain themselves in the portable market against two Nintendo handhelds, both possibly with vast libraries of games and one having supperior visuals compared to the PSP in the situation that the Cube were made portable.  If the Cube were portable, from the start Nintendo could claim conquest to the media and developers over Sony's PSP since the Cube already has an installed userbase.  
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #139 on: February 06, 2005, 03:35:38 PM »
Nintendo is going with some sort of Flash Drive, no DVD's
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #140 on: February 06, 2005, 08:43:54 PM »
i highly doubt the revolution will use anything but optical media. not that i claim to be a professional but... yeah fuc*&@$ right.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #141 on: February 07, 2005, 06:09:53 AM »
I think pmp was referring to the non-volatile RAM, not the games.

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« Reply #142 on: February 07, 2005, 07:55:01 PM »
Question for Noble Feather that I think he could answer as it doesn't have anything to do with spilling secrets and whatnot lol.  Since the Rev is supposed to be taking a different route than your usual consoles, how is this going to affect mutli platform releases.  Is Nintendo's Revolutionary features going to hinder or enhance ported games?  I was just wondering cuase I still want my sports games like Madden (NFL 2k wouldve been my choice though, damn bastards that are EA) and 2k basketball to be represented on the Rev without taking a hit in quality or playability.
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #143 on: February 07, 2005, 09:21:55 PM »
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Originally posted by: Truthliesn1seyes
Question for Noble Feather that I think he could answer as it doesn't have anything to do with spilling secrets and whatnot lol.  Since the Rev is supposed to be taking a different route than your usual consoles, how is this going to affect mutli platform releases.  Is Nintendo's Revolutionary features going to hinder or enhance ported games?  I was just wondering cuase I still want my sports games like Madden (NFL 2k wouldve been my choice though, damn bastards that are EA) and 2k basketball to be represented on the Rev without taking a hit in quality or playability.


Well, considering Revo can play GCN games, yes.

Think of it this way, GCN can still play 2D games like Mario or Zelda, only it can do it with an analogue stick.
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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #144 on: February 08, 2005, 04:10:12 AM »
Nobel Feather, how do you know so much again about this?  People on this board actually seem to listen to you, and not take you with a grain of salt like most rumor starters...so how do you know this information?  

From the last comment I suspect a few things.

1)Backwards compatiability, interesting...so is Nintendo going to keep that mini-disk format, but with a different, larger capacity disks?

2)You purposefully mentioned using the analog stick to play Zelda and Mario...so are you hinting that the control device will be that radically different.  The difference between playing with an analog stick and the D-Pad is pretty great...sometimes it works, other times it ruins the game, so this kinda worries me.
 

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #145 on: February 08, 2005, 04:31:55 AM »
PGC mod's suck rite? RITE.

Use the thread above to post your false information with no proof.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #146 on: February 08, 2005, 06:00:40 AM »
um... this is fast forward, we can have more than one thread on Revolution.
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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #147 on: February 08, 2005, 06:28:40 AM »
"Think of it this way, GCN can still play 2D games like Mario or Zelda, only it can do it with an analogue stick."

So it's useless for any game that requires digital control?  Nice to know ahead of time that the mistakes of the Cube controller are being made WORSE for the Revolution.

How the hell can there be backwards compatibility with no d-pad?  Though few (or possibly no) Cube games exclusively use the d-pad for movement several games like Rogue Leader and Metroid Prime use it as extra buttons.

Unless the analog stick somehow can function in both an analog or digital mode.  If possible that would be revolutionary and incredibly flexible.

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RE: Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #148 on: February 08, 2005, 07:55:56 AM »
I still say Nintendo should've just bought GTA and Final Fantasy exclusives and made a traditional system that is the most powerful out there and made a heck of a lot more games for it.

But what do I know...

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RE:Something important to know about the Revolution
« Reply #149 on: February 08, 2005, 08:27:46 AM »
I suppose we will have to wait until E3 before we get a board for Revolution entirely.  I wonder if this means the site's name will be changed to planetrevolution.com?  
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