Topic: New North American (NPD) Sales Thread

[Mario]

Not yet, it's a little strange there's none in the top 20 though.

Can I post Japanese sales in here too? Or just this once because NDS just launched there.

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Media Create Software Sales: 29 Nov - 5 Dec

platform - title - publisher - this week - total
1 PS2 Dragon Quest VIII: Sora to Umi to Daichi to Norowareshi Himigime Square Enix 476,281 - 2,643,353
2 DS Super Mario 64 DS Nintendo 151,373 new
3 DS Sawaru Made in Wario Nintendo 148,825 new
4 DS Pokemon Dash Pokemon 56,337 new
5 DS Daigasso! Band Brothers Nintendo 33,911 new
6 GBA Power Pro Kun Pocket 7 Konami 30,410 new
7 GC Mario Party 6 Nintendo 29,959 178,352
8 DS Kime no Tame Nara Kimi Shineru (Feel the Magic) Sega 27,250 new
9 DS Chokkan Hitofude (One Line Puzzle) Nintendo 25,415 new
10 GC NARUTO: Gekitou Ninja Taisen! 3 Tomy 22,799 - 183,834

Media Create Hardware Sales: 29 Nov - 5 Dec
platform this week - last week - 2004 total
1 Nintendo DS 468,883 new 468,883
2 PlayStation 2 93,829 - 108,148 - 2,292,239
3 GameBoy Advance SP 27,313 - 31,198 - 2,211,510
4 Gamecube 5,465 - 6,107 - 533,178
5 Gameboy Advance 822 785 - 191,981
6 Xbox 621 - 669 - 35,495
7 Swan Crystal 44 - 38 - 7,274
8 PSone 40 - 30 - 13,864

Nintendo DS was only out for 3 days too, Nintendo has 9 out of the top 10 games.  

[mjbd]

Not bad sales for Metroid Prime Echoes, just not great.  I am sure it will be a million seller, but its gonna take a few months.  I am sure December will be another good month for both Paper Mario and Metroid.  I cant believe how well X-box is doing these days, but then again, Gamecube is beating the pants off X-box in Japan.  Once again Gameboy SP is a beast, and the DS looks like its getting off to a good start.  Mario Party 6 is doing well in Japan, I wonder if it will do that well in the states.  Nintendo is making a profit  though, so even though it may not have all the big numbers, its go the one that counts.  Something Microsoft has little chance of doing any time soon.

[Mario]

If it's not a million seller then this will be the first holiday season EVER (in over 15 years) that Nintendo is lacking a million selling holiday game.

But really, looking at the GBA and DS sales, Nintendo are in one of the best positions they've ever been in, I just hope they work harder to try and revive interest in their home consoles.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

I see PooP:Weakness Within's generic angst and hip color schemes couldn't make the cut in these charts.

[mantidor]

yeah, I was surprised about no gba games in the top 20 too, I just hope MP2 sales pick up in the holiday season

[God Speaks]

Any figures for Mega Man Anniversary Collection?

[ruby_onix]

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Can I post Japanese sales in here too?

We used to have a Japanese sales thread, but it died from lack of interest a very long time ago. I think the more detailed "weekly" nature of the Japanese reports makes it harder to keep anyone's attention (I know that I even get bored with the monthly NPD numbers sometimes).

I would say that yeah, Japanese numbers are welcome in this thread. It mixes things up a bit, and keeps it interesting. Does anyone want me to edit some details out of the thread's topic?

[Mario]

Yeah, i'll post Japanese numbers if there's something interesting about them like a big game launch or Nintendo dominance. More numbers slowly trickling through...

GBA games over 100k -

GBA THE INCREDIBLES $6,515,073 235,757
GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $5,070,848 157,613
GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $5,011,944 165,280
GBA THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE $3,961,270 147,403
GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR $3,531,408 115,445
GBA SHREK 2 $3,288,651 133,334
GBA CARTOON NTWK BUNDLE $2,992,834 113,666
GBA SHREK 2:BEG FOR MERCY $2,564,586 102,508
GBA NAMCO MUSEUM $1,357,705 126,096
GBA MIDNIGHT CLUB: STREET $1,017,762 117,113

NDS games over 100k -

NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417

[Ian Sane]

Pretty disappointing to see generic crap like NFS outselling MP2.  I'm quite disappointed in Metroid Prime 2 sales so far but I'm not really surprised either.  Was it a mistake to release it the same month as Halo 2?  I don't think so.  It's on a different system so it attracts a different audience.  I think the biggest mistake was a lack of hype.  Metroid Prime 2 didn't have the kind of advertising a game of that calibur should have.  Metroid Prime is one of the greatest games ever made and therefore its sequel should get a lot of promotion.  Just mentioning that the first game won several GOTY awards in an ad would have helped.

But a lot of the mistakes were made before MP2 was even started.  Low sales for Cube games are common because of very major mistakes made within the first year of the Cube's life.  The Cube has too low of a userbase and is almost completely ignored by the general public.  That's the overall problem and low MP2 sales are the result.

[1day]

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Originally posted by: Professional 666
I see PooP:Weakness Within's generic angst and hip color schemes couldn't make the cut in these charts.

Don't forget it actually released Dec 2nd after a few short delays. So yeah and Metroid Prime 2 and Metal Gear Solid 3 sales really bombed horribly, so sad.

[zelos_rules]

I think Ian pretty much got it right as to why Metroid bombed. A lack of advertising seems to have really hurt the game. Another reason I believe is the game has absoloutly no main stream acceptance (at least in Australia). Alot of my friends have played the first Prime game and couldnt get used to the control system. The enemies were too sparse and the whole adventuring idea turned them off. I think there are certain features which really would of helped this game get mainstream attention. Maybe if there was more character interaction and more storyline (or at least a different way of devoleping storyline). Also if you could maybe control a unit of bounty hunters or something. Obviously if Retro decided to put these in they would have to be pretty strict to keep the Metroid feel but I believe extras like this would be a great addition.

[Rugal]

DS software sales were poor, even Mario only did ok. Shame Feel the Magic was the worst performer, Sega just can't catch a break.

Mario 64 214,417
Spiderman 2 40,706
Madden 2005 32,889
The Urbz 26,908
Asphalt Urban GT 26,605
Feel the Magic 13,270

Megaman cumulative totals:
Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 183,370
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 177,328
Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 31,969
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 24,246

GC cumulatives:
Paper Mario 2: 333,102
Pikmin 2: 193,661
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 192,332
Donkey Konga: 172,805

[Mario]

Finally, complete everything!

Top Publishers

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1 MICROSOFT (CORP) $178 21.0%
2 ELECTRONIC ARTS $133 15.6%
3 TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE (CORP) $100 11.8%
4 NINTENDO OF AMERICA $74 8.7%
5 THQ $71 8.4%
6 ACTIVISION $63 7.4%
7 SONY (CORP) $41 4.8%
8 KONAMI OF AMERICA $34 4.0%
9 ATARI $24 2.9%
10 NAMCO $18 2.2%
11 VIVENDI UNIVERSAL (CORP) $16 1.9%
12 MAJESCO $14 1.6%
13 UBISOFT (CORP) $12 1.5%
14 MIDWAY $10 1.2%
15 LUCASARTS $8 0.9%
16 SEGA OF AMERICA $7,382,597 869803.1%
17 BUENA VISTA GAMES $6,201,760 730679.2%
18 CAPCOM USA $5,022,287 591716.0%
19 EIDOS INTERACTIVE (CORP) $3,837,475 452123.8%
20 SQUARE ENIX INC (CORP) $2,964,024 349215.5%

Nintendo sales for November only

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NINTENDO OF AMERICA


GBA ADVANCE WARS $272 23
GBA ADVANCE WARS 2: BLACK $111,701 6,112
GBA BEACH BLANK-OUT BLAST $113,550 6,459
GBA BOMBERMAN CLASSIC $40,672 2,985
GBA CASTLEVANIA CLASSIC $331,552 19,193
GBA DISNEYS MAGICAL QUEST $3,807 188
GBA DONKEY KONG CLASSIC $496,794 26,567
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY $349,586 17,954
GBA DONKEY KONG COUNTRY 2 $2,175,076 74,355
GBA DR. MARIO CLASSIC $835,746 48,311
GBA EXCITEBIKE CLASSIC $111,113 6,227
GBA F-ZERO GP LEGEND $77,407 2,542
GBA F-ZERO MAX VELOCITY $3,004 207
GBA FINAL FANTASY TACTICS $220,010 6,566
GBA FIRE EMBLEM $153,287 5,174
GBA FOR HO-OH BELLS TOLL! $145,197 8,164
GBA GAME & WATCH GALLERY4 $5,851 367
GBA GOLDEN SUN $385 26
GBA GOLDEN SUN: LOST AGE $58,850 2,985
GBA HAMTARO: HEARTBREAK $17,800 623
GBA HAMTARO:HAM-HAM GAMES $195,216 6,376
GBA ICE CLIMBER CLASSIC $50,743 3,680
GBA JOHTO PHOTO FINISH $157,534 8,656
GBA KIRBY AMAZING MIRROR $3,531,408 115,445
GBA KIRBY: NIGHTMARE $252,576 8,087
GBA MARIO & LUIGI SAGA $432,099 14,261
GBA MARIO BROS 3: MARIO 4 $1,400,153 46,774
GBA MARIO GOLF ADVANCE $354,067 11,530
GBA MARIO KART: CIRCUIT $559,792 18,339
GBA MARIO PINBALL LAND $2,086,009 68,384
GBA MARIO VS. DONKEY KONG $915,091 29,740
GBA METROID CLASSIC $294,409 17,464
GBA METROID FUSION $102,436 3,260
GBA METROID ZERO MISSION $296,733 10,462
GBA PAC-MAN CLASSIC $341,405 22,443
GBA POKEMON FIRERED W/ADP $5,070,848 157,613
GBA POKEMON LEAFGRN W/ADP $5,011,944 165,280
GBA POKEMON PINBALL: R&S $144,568 5,673
GBA POKEMON RUBY $797,542 24,582
GBA POKEMON SAPPHIRE $767,450 23,790
GBA POKEMON-I CHOOSE YOU! $171,803 10,127
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE $110,708 3,780
GBA SUPER MARIO ADVANCE 2 $734,992 23,808
GBA SUPER MARIO CLASSIC $813,565 43,004
GBA SWORD OF MANA $73,857 2,706
GBA WARIO LAND 4 $605 33
GBA WARIOWARE INC: MEGA $46,777 1,495
GBA XEVIOUS CLASSIC $27,099 2,047
GBA YOSHI'S ISLAND:MARIO3 $230,189 7,380
GBA ZELDA CLASSIC $384,657 20,422
GBA ZELDA II CLASSIC $646,500 36,971
GBA ZELDA: LINK TO PAST $382,898 12,769


GCN 1080 AVALANCHE $128,910 4,846
GCN ANIMAL CROSSING $448,543 23,310
GCN CUSTOM ROBO $167,612 4,524
GCN DISNEY MAGICAL MIRROR $34,725 1,659
GCN DONKEY KONGA W/BONGOS $2,866,788 58,822
GCN ETERNAL DARKNESS $26,683 1,707
GCN F-ZERO GX $129,298 8,500
GCN FINAL FANTASY CRYSTAL $210,765 5,402
GCN KIRBY AIR RIDE $467,267 24,267
GCN LUIGI'S MANSION $503,081 27,491
GCN MARIO GOLF: TOADSTOOL $678,205 36,951
GCN MARIO KART: DOUBLE $1,145,769 23,893
GCN MARIO PARTY 4 $67,142 1,459
GCN MARIO PARTY 5 $699,176 14,380
GCN MARIO POWER TENNIS $4,824,762 98,100
GCN METROID PRIME $291,571 16,397
GCN METROID PRIME 2: ECHO $9,483,345 192,332
GCN NBA COURTSIDE 2002 $3,604 263
GCN PAPER MARIO: THOUSAND $6,699,387 143,399
GCN PIKMIN $44,899 3,076
GCN PIKMIN 2 $1,434,597 30,622
GCN POKEMON CHANNEL $87,960 4,375
GCN POKEMON COLOSSEUM $704,232 14,450
GCN PREVIEW DISC $3,010 376
GCN STAR FOX ADVENTURES $79,114 4,248
GCN SUPER MARIO SUNSHINE $1,070,650 57,283
GCN SUPER SMASH BRO MELEE $1,153,320 42,521
GCN WARIO WORLD $186,242 9,845
GCN WARIOWARE INC: PARTY $115,309 4,092
GCN WAVE RACE: BLUE STORM $13,967 905
GCN ZELDA: FOUR SWORDS $595,574 12,940
GCN ZELDA: FOUR W/O CABLE $16,811 393
GCN ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER $1,238,598 71,000


NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417

More November numbers

NDS SUPER MARIO 64 DS $6,474,906 214,417
NDS SPIDER-MAN:THE MOVIE2 $1,456,745 40,706
NDS MADDEN NFL 2005 $1,303,238 32,889
NDS THE URBZ:SIMS IN CITY $1,029,216 26,908
NDS ASPHALT: URBAN GT $793,442 26,605
NDS FEEL THE MAGIC: XY/XX $393,678 13,270

GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE 2 $368,513 9,306 (ouch)

GCN VIEWTIFUL JOE $123,555 6,844
PS2 VIEWTIFUL JOE $158,452 7,518

XBX BLINX 2: MASTERS TIME $129,223 3,376 (tee hee)

PS2 GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $1,373,225 27,820
XBX GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $1,229,808 24,933
GCN GOLDENEYE:ROGUE AGENT $846,002 17,091

GCN BATEN KAITOS: ETERNAL $938,732 18,996

GCN SONIC MEGA COLLECTION $925,695 52,431
PS2 SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS $1,205,809 62,203
XBX SONIC MEGA COLL PLUS $696,127 35,725

GBA GRAND THEFT AUTO ADVN $799,373 27,325

GCN THE INCREDIBLES $3,383,708 87,562
GCN THE SPONGEBOB MOVIE $2,565,922 68,534
GCN SPONGEBOB: BATTLE $736,988 40,194
Lifetime sales

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Super Smash Bros. Melee: 2,509,278
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!: 1,731,903
Super Mario Sunshine: 1,658,103
The Wind Waker: 1,608,491
Luigi's Mansion: 1,509,505
Metroid Prime: 1,220,779
Mario Party 4: 949,293
Animal Crossing: 817,951
Star Fox Adventures: 783,815
Mario Party 5: 774,623
Pokemon Colosseum: 698,449
Pikmin: 659,148
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour: 445,520
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: 383,662
Paper Mario The Thousand-Year Door: 333,102
Kirby Air Ride: 328,362
Wave Race: 327,594
Four Swords Adventures: 280,404
Eternal Darkness: 276,923
F-Zero GX: 267,497
Wario World: 239,011
Pikmin 2: 193,661
Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 192,332
Donkey Konga: 172,805
Preview Disk: 171,117
Pokemon Channel: 159,496
NBA Courtside 2002: 158,242
Custom Robo: 147,775
Magical Mirror: 117,523
Mario Power Tennis: 98,100
Wario Ware Inc: 95,823
1080 Avalanche: 94,115

Mega Man Anniversary (GC): 183,370
Mega Man Anniversary (PS2): 177,328

Mega Man X Command Mission (GC): 31,969
Mega Man X Command Mission (PS2): 24,246

Viewtiful Joe (GC): 274,134
Viewtiful Joe (PS2): 46,954
Viewtiful Joe 2 (GC): 9,306

Resident Evil Zero: 428,034
Resident Evil: 468,750
Resident Evil 2: 35,760
Resident Evil 3: 48,574
Resident Evil Code Veronica X: 32,699

La Pucelle: Tactics: 58,373

Star Wars Rogue Squadron II Rogue Leader: 867,619
Star Wars Rogue Squadron III Rebel Strike: 434,605

Soul Calibur (GC): 718,395
Soul Calibur (PS2): 665,111
Soul Calibur (Xbox): 472,420

Tales of Symphonia: 255,240

Baten Kaitos: 18,996

TimeSplitters 2:

PS2 267,530
GCN 230,128
XBX 219,969

[zelos_rules]

Dont take this the wrong way but I'm kind of glad Viewtiful Joe 2 bombed. Serves capcom right for rushing a game to the market so soon. Dont get me wrong I love the series but straight away when the sequel was announced I knew it was too soon.

But OUCHH!!! for Baten Kaitos. Only 18 000? ...thats got to hurt namco. HAHAHA they thought that this game will sell half a million worldwide.

[Infernal Monkey]

Ahahaha, it's cool because EA were probably hoping GC fans would jump all over GoldenEye: RA. "ZOMG IT'S GOLDENEYE!11 HERE'S MY PILES OF MONEY IN EXCHANGE FOR TRASH"

I guess Baten Kaitos will get a PS2 port now. And blol at the piss poor Blinx 2 sales (it's not really a bad game, dudes).

[ShyGuy]

Regarding the low software sales for the NDS, I wonder if the fact that the NDS came bundled with Picto Chat and the Metroid demo caused a lot of people not to pickup a title when they bought the game?

Think back, did you buy another title on the same day you got your NES? or were you content with Super Mario Bros and Duck Hunt for awhile?

Also, I imagine the fact that you can play GBA games on it cooled the need to get a DS title right away.

Hmm, if you look at it that way it's an argument against bundled games and backwards compatibility.

As soon as we see some better titles for the DS I'm sure software sales will pickup

and I would wager a spike in sales after the kids open their DS present (which the gift givers bought without an extra game) and get tired of the Metroid Demo. "Mom, can we go to the mall and spend my Christmas money? I want a new game."

I wonder what the DS killer ap of the future is going to be?

[Flames_of_chaos]

A DS killer app will probably be Yoshi's Touch and Go, Wario Ware Touched! or Metroid Prime hunters(since of the demo bundled in).

[Renny]

Animal Crossing, fool!

[Bartman3010]

Capcom said MMAC sold a total of 500,000 copies from both systems. However the numbers we got now is around 350,000.

Any new numbers?

Edit: Oh, what about Sonic Heroes?

[Mario]

Sonic Heroes totals:
GCN -  447,337
PS2 - 285,743
XBX - 128,571

Also,

GCN ALIEN HOMINID $39,960 1,393
PS2 ALIEN HOMINID $59,308 2,005

Very, very sad.

[ShyGuy]

You know, looking at Metal Gear 3, numbers,  The numbers for Silicon Knight's Twin Snakes remake don't look too bad.

IIRC:
Metal Gear Twin Snakes launch month: 180,000 some
Metal Gear 3 Snake Eater launch month: 290,00 some

And Snake Eater had "teh hype", TV commercials, and the larger user base with PS2.

Apparently Konami's Metal Gear franchise is out of vogue. Live by the sword, die by the sword. I guess.  

[Ian Sane]

"Ahahaha, it's cool because EA were probably hoping GC fans would jump all over GoldenEye: RA. 'ZOMG IT'S GOLDENEYE!11 HERE'S MY PILES OF MONEY IN EXCHANGE FOR TRASH'"

Goldeneye RA is the first time I've seen EA unsuccessfully fool reviewers into giving one of their Bond games a high score.  In the past it was always "it's not nearly as good as Goldeneye but who cares?  I love Mia's theme song!  9.8/10!"  But when  they actually used the Goldeneye name "not as good as Goldeneye" no longer was acceptable.  It's not just a Bond game anymore it's a Goldeneye game and thus a game with that name has to match up with the original.  So Rogue Agent has been rightly sh!t on by everyone with a brain.  I think had they just released "Rogue Agent", the exact same game but without the Goldeneye name, reviews would have been better and sales would have been higher.  It seems to take a lot to expose EA's mediocrity to people but even the dimmest casual gamer is going to spot someone milking Goldeneye's name.

[couchmonkey]

GameCube sales: I think Nintendo spread itself pretty thin this holiday season.  There was a new game for the company to promote every single month, and most of the advertising budget seems to have gone to DS.  I think Paper Mario and Metroid Prime 2 both should have done a lot better, but the marketing just wasn't there.  I've seen approximately one commercial for each GameCube game Nintendo published since September and I've seen the Halo 2 commercial about 8 times.  But that's just here in Canada, maybe things are different in the States.
Feel the Magic sales: I think the game is just too weird for it's own good.  A quick glance at the box leaves you with the impression that it's going to be soft porn or some kind of dancing game.  I think DS sales in general are weak because the lineup is weak.
As a whole: It's interesting to see just how fad-oriented gaming is becoming in North America.  All in one month you can see What's Cool (Halo), What's Out (Metal Gear), and What's Going Out (Grand Theft Auto).  What's Next?  Goldeneye.

[Chongman]

poor namco...

really, they're probably ninty's biggest third party ally right now...this really blows. i wish this game would sell...it really is pretty good too.

[Deguello]

The thing to note about Handheld games is that they notoriously pull in low numbers.  Handheld tie-in ratios are more than significantly lower than Consoles.