Topic: Mafia XLI:Looney Toons End game Conversation and Wrapup and MVP voting thread.

[BeautifulShy]

Taz(Plugabugz) has been found out! He tries to kill Elmer Fudd(Stevey) but
he is unsuccessful. The remaining Toons of Michigan J Frog(NuclearSpeed),Elmer Fudd(stevey) and Gossamer(Nickmitch) and Sam The Sheep Dog(The Perm) take him and gives him a "Wild Turkey Surprise" and Taz is no more.

Marvin is going to take the offensive and capture Sam The Sheep Dog(The Perm) and torture him until he can't take it anymore.

Marvin and his Instant Martians have defeated all of their rivals and is triumphant.
Marvin the Martian(Mop_it_up) will revel in this victory for a very long time. Her team consisting of The Martian Queen(Dasmos) and Instant Martian # 1(Stratos) and Instant Martian #2(Golden Phoenix) has beaten the fiercest of players. But there is a vast universe to conquer where will Marvin and his followers go next?

[BeautifulShy]

Plugabugz the killer was voted out.
The Perm was killed by Marvin.He was a townie.

Alive Players.Mop_it_up,Stratos,GoldenPhoenix,stevey,Nickmitch,and NuclearSpeed.

3 to each side means
The Mafia wins the game!

[BeautifulShy]

I didn't really get that many PMs from people.Aside from hits I only got Khushrenada's Role PM that went to everybody. That was an interesting plan. There has been some questions about why thatguy died. Well as you guys know now that Plugabugz was the killer.He sent his hit around 6am. Khushrenada sent out that PM I think a few hours after that.While thatguy had his post asking about the killer I think 1 pm PST so Plugabugz didn't see the post because of the time difference.

This game was my first time hosting. I am wondering if any of the players had any problems with the game?

I want to try to make the next one better if possible. I think I may try to use a 24 hour voting schedule next time. I had some ideas that could help the Mafia to win but since Dasmos was gone than that route went down the drain. If he was the last member of the Mafia he could place hits and if he had any protections left he could use them on himself. He could be voted out though.

If anybody is wondering about the members of the Mafia I did not pick them. I used Random.org List Randomizer.Here is how I did roles. I first wrote all of the roles on a piece of paper and Townies were up top with the Roles in this order.Investigator,Doctor,Vote Changer, than 9 townies.
Then the Mafia came in this order.Marvin, The Martian Queen than the 2 Instant Martians.
Finally the killer down at the bottom. I entered the players based on Sign up order. Whoever had the number 1 slot got the Investigator Role and so on...

I was kinda worried about the mafia after day 1 because Dasmos was gone and I would see how they played together. As the results show they did very well.  If you guys want you can vote for a MVP for both sides while the killer could be included in both sides as a possible MVP.
OK I have gotten some PMs for the MVP vote. If everybody wants it to be a surprise than PM me. You can post in this thread also if you like.
Anyway comment away!

[Dasmos]

oh score. we won. i barely paid attention after my team mates bailed on me on day 1.

[BeautifulShy]

oh score. we won. i barely paid attention after my team mates bailed on me on day 1.

Was there a conversation that they thought it would be best that you were gone or was there a problem with time issues?

[Mop it up]

No excuses mate, we failed you on day 1 Dasmos. I was so nervous about doing anything suspicious that I couldn't bring myself to break the tie, so I hoped GoldenPhoenix would do it. It would seem Khushrenada still had me figured out somehow, but through some miracle he didn't stick with his conviction.

In any case, thank you for hosting Maxi. Everything went fine as far as I'm concerned, but one thing I did want to mention is that I felt the consequence for violating your voting rule was a bit strict. I feel that it should have just been that the person's vote doesn't count.

[BeautifulShy]

I will keep that in mind Mop_it_up for next time. 

Oh if no one hasn't noticed you can vote for a MVP for both sides. Once everybody has voted for a MVP member than I will make note of those people.I am going to send out a Mass PM to everybody about MVP voting.Also you may vote for the Wild Card Player.

Edit:I just sent out the Mass PM.

[Stratos]

Woo-hoo!

Pinky: "But now what do we do Brain?"
Brain: "What we always try to do, Pinky, Take Over The World!"
Pinky: "But I thought we already won?"
Brain: "We merely defeated the Toons, Marvin and his alien friends are merely a stepping stone to Conquering The Galaxy!"
Pinky: "...NARF!..."
Brain: "...My genius is lost on the foolish."

My vote for MVP was Mop it up. She seemed to pull off all the right moves and even dodged the scrutiny of Khush for a while. Well played, friend. It was great to serve under you.

[BeautifulShy]

Gonna head to bed. Man hosting can be tiring but fun to see what happens in the game. Also I am kinda out of the loop on most things and it is nice to see how things develop.
Also what did everybody think of my story. I tried to make it tense at times while a bit funny as well. The tense was when Taz was killing and the funny was the vote out posts. Marvin was a mix of the two.

Added something in my thoughts and questions post. It states if you want to PM me your MVP votes. Than you can do that or post them here.

[ShyGuy]

Mafia Steam Rolled us.

[GoldenPhoenix]

I'm going to vote Mop_it_up her intuitions were great giving us an easy win.

[BeautifulShy]

I'm interested in the thought process of the hits of Plugabugz and Mop_it_up.

I would imagine that Plugabugz was worried about being found out by really experienced players. Also I think a few of the kills were placed in order to try and place blame on perhaps the Mafia and townies for them.

Mop_it_up hits for the most part I feel were low activity players that weren't that helpful in the vote. Also leaving in the active players cast suspicion on everybody in the game as everybody could be a threat.

Is that pretty much the thought process Plugabugz and Mop_it_up or am I wrong?

[that Baby guy]

I'm not too surprised with the end result of all this.  Plugabugz's mistake was not communicating who he was, so that he could stay alive to prevent a mafia win, believe it or not.

Had DAaaMan paid attention to the rules, which Maxi posted, then I posted AGAIN, just to be certain they'd be read and followed, the game could've been a lot different.  But, he didn't.

Beyond that, I was a bit surprised no one figured out that Mop_it_up or GP were mafia from the hits.  Hopefully they didn't pick 'em at random, because from the hits alone, those were my top two suspects.

I'm not going to vote, though, because I didn't really play   The people involved can figure all this out.

[Mop it up]

The first two hits were not random. The two factors were finding roled players and avoiding the protection of the doctor. Thatguy and Khushrenada are clichéd first-day targets so I figured there was a good chance one of them would be protected. On the second day, it seemed likely that RABicle or Khushrenada would be protected (though RABicle ended up being the subject of the votes). As far as players with roles, I got one of the two right, so I don't see how you could say it was a bad choice. That said, if any of you actually did suspect me, then I must've been playing TOO smart.

After the first twos days, the remaining players weren't very active, so it basically became guesswork at that point. We had to find the killer to clinch our victory but there was no real indicator of who that was, so we weighed our choices and picked the more likely candidates. The townies seemed clueless so as long as we didn't do anything obvious I wasn't worried about being found.

You all can make excuses all you want, but you just can't beat Birdo with a mallet. 

[Plugabugz]

I'm interested in the thought process of the hits of Plugabugz and Mop_it_up.

I would imagine that Plugabugz was worried about being found out by really experenced players. Also I think a few of the kills were placed in order to try and place blame on perhaps the Mafia and townies for them.

I deliberately went after the most capable people, but then realised i forgot to go after the people who notice me the most. I didn't say anything because i was treating it in the same capacity as the Green Player from Mario Kart.

[BeautifulShy]

The killer Role is probably the hardest role to win with.You have to make it so that the two sides are pretty even.Did you know who the Mafia was Plugabugz?

[GoldenPhoenix]

I deliberately went after the most capable people

I feel insulted for some reason.

[that Baby guy]

Also, I have to ask:  Was I the only one TheFleece told his role to?  I'd imagine that wasn't the case, since Mop_it_up hit him on the first day, but still, I feel it should be asked.

[Plugabugz]

I deliberately went after the most capable people

I feel insulted for some reason.

Why hunnywunnybunchkins? I knew that the longer i leave ThatKhush in the game they would just deduce from my timezoned-absence that something would be up.

The killer Role is probably the hardest role to win with.You have to make it so that the two sides are pretty even.Did you know who the Mafia was Plugabugz?

No idea...

[Stratos]

Honestly, I was shocked you turned out to be the killer as well, Plugabugz. Us mafia had collectively decided to off Perm because we thought his deliberately causing ties was suspicious. I merely started bandwagining you the last day because you were tied the day before and I also was more convinced that Nickmitch was townie than you.

[BeautifulShy]

Stratos if you look at your voting record post from Day 4 than there really couldn't be a way that The Perm could of been the killer.He wasn't online the first day. The killer made a hit on the first day. So at the very least Perm and NickMitch couldn't be the killer. Plugabugz,stevey, and NuclearSpeed were more likely killers suspects.

[DAaaMan64]

Had DAaaMan paid attention to the rules, which Maxi posted, then I posted AGAIN, just to be certain they'd be read and followed, the game could've been a lot different.  But, he didn't.

Ya thats my bad. The stupid part is I was totally paying attention this whole game. I just took this as a traditional mafia game and assumed everything was pretty normal. I mean I've played 20+ games of mafia, so I assumed I was good on the roles. I was totally reading a ton then too, I bet I got a huge spike in my online time too

[stevey]

I blame Khushrenada

Vote Khush

[Stratos]

I do agree that the rules felt rather harsh.

The game was balanced I'd say, it was just that Mop it up and Plugabugz made the right moves at the right time to cripple the townies swiftly and succinctly. The fact that they did not hit each other during the killings was also amazing.

Also, I must ask Rabicle: Were your guesses of Dasmos and Mop it up purely guess work or did youknow something the others did not?

Also, Dasmos, I didn't purposefully hang you out to dry. I would have done more if I could as I felt it wrong to turn on you to make me a more believable townie. Sadly my work schedule hinders me from making last minute vote changes. :/

[Mop it up]

Also, I have to ask:  Was I the only one TheFleece told his role to?  I'd imagine that wasn't the case, since Mop_it_up hit him on the first day, but still, I feel it should be asked.

You just don't want to give me any credit.

I deliberately went after the most capable people

I feel insulted for some reason.

lol I thought the exact same thing.