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Title: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 17, 2009, 11:16:59 AM
Breaking Bad: Neon/10

I've wanted to get into this series for awhile now, and Target had season one on sale for $20.  The down side is that season one is a whopping seven episodes. :(

Anyway, this series is something different.  There's a lot of "down time", but you're always waiting for the next thing to happen.  Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on August 17, 2009, 06:54:32 PM
I don't really watch TV much. The last show I was interested in was Charmed. I would give the series a 8/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2009, 07:41:11 PM
The Shield: 10/10

From beginning to end this series had me. Season 6 was a little toned down due to it being one season stretched out to 2, but Season 7 was a ride all the way till the very end. I have not recommended any show more than this one. Was the Best show on Network television .(period)



The Wire: 8.5/10

When this show was good, it was great, but it wasn't always good. Lots of people compare it to The Sheild, but they are very different shows and the only thing they have in common is that they involve cops, politicians, drugs & their dealers. The tone and atmosphere of the shows are on 2 different planes. s1 was a good set up, but it's really slow, all character development and always leaving wondering where all the action was. by s3 the show was speeding uphill with no signs of slowing down all the way through s4. s5 wrapped it up, but s3 & s4 were by far the strongest seasons.


Dead Like Me: 7/10

Only lasted 2 seasons but was entertaining for what it was. Grim Reapers releasing souls before tragedy strikes. I would have watched a 3rd season, but unfortunately I didn't discover this show till long after it had been cancelled.



Jericho: 7/10

Post Apocalyptic America. Surviving in a small town with no idea whats going on in the rest of the country. 1st half of the 1st season was slow as they were doing the character building, but the 2nd half of the 1st season is where things really got interesting. I immediately jumped into the 2nd season, but it was only a few episodes long, which was too bad because the 2nd season was excellent from episode 1 till the end.



Arrested Development: 9/10

No show that I have watched has ever had so much self referencing humor. Lots of the jokes were subtle but always very funny. The Bluth family was definitely an interesting bunch and it sucks that this show came on FOX and didn't get all the support it needed. If you like comedy, you should rent/buy this show and watch it.


Chuck: 8/10

Very very entertaining show. A boy becomes an entire government intelligence computer and get protection to continue to attempt to live his normal life working at the Buy More(best buy). I marathoned though s1 and couldn't get enough. I also marathoned through s2 where I sit waiting to see how s3 turns out. This is a really fun show that deserves all the viewership that it can find, so I hope you all catch up and start watching this fall when s3 starts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 17, 2009, 08:13:49 PM
Heh, I thought Jericho kind of fell apart during Season 2. And what's with the giant cliffhanger? The producers knew they weren't being renewed. And Arrested Development is one of TV's greatest shows.

Me? I'm in the middle of the second season of Pushing Daisies. I loved the first season, but the second season isn't as good. Kind of like House, M.D. in that when they try to mess with the established formula, it's not as good. Still has excellent writing, aethetic appeal, and Kristin Chenoweth, but it's just not the same. Still good, just not...AS good.

Also, Chenoweth sings a song in every other episode. That must've gotten written into her contract, because it doesn't make ANY sense when she sings.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2009, 09:31:52 PM
I think Jericho was hoping for a save the show internet campaign that kind of worked for Arrested Development.


True Blood: 9/10 (and climbing)

So far this show is great. The 1st few episodes of s1 might be a little slow, but you gotta get to know the characters and whats going on. Once you get past that, it's sex, blood and WTF!? s1 supposedly follows the book very closely, but s2 takes it's own liberties from what I've been reading. In this one Vampire reveal themselves to the Human world and hope to co-habitate peacefully, but as usual with there are alot of problems that get in the way of that. This show is currently the best show airing on any channel on TV at the moment. 3 episodes left in s2 so you better subscribe to HBO and get caught up.


Eureka: 8/10

One of my favorite shows and the only show I watch on the SyFy channel. Takes place in Eureka, CA, a place that seems to be a normal small town at first glance, but is really the front for the U.S.'s most tech savvy secret base. So many weird & crazy experiments going on here that you never know what tomorrow today is gonna bring. Another fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously but is grounded in what appears to be actual theoretical scientific study.



Dexter: 9.5/10

A serial killing cop who hunts murderous criminals that seems to have escaped the law.... ironic right? But one of the best shows on television without debate.
A man with a moral code of conduct, A vigilante with a flare for unlawful justice. A forensic blood splatter analysis with a love & lust for blood. There is no one out there as flawed as Dexter who can do wha he does and still manage to hold it all together. All 3 seasons of this show is good & s4 is sounding like it could be one of the best ones yet. It's on Showtime so you better get you subscription before the new season starts.


Burn Notice: 8/10

The 3rd hit in the USA triple threat (Monk & Psych). Whats it like to be a US Spy that been burned(blacklisted)? That's what Michael Westin is finding out in this action show from USA. It's kinda like MacGuyver meets Miami and even co-stars Bruce Campbell as the side-kick goto guy Sam. Every episode has its fair share of action as Michael usually takes on clients(to help them solve problems) while he searches for who burned him and why. Very entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on August 17, 2009, 09:33:46 PM
Wow BNM and I like many of the same shows, True Blood, Dexter and Eureka (never seen Burn Notice though I do love Bruce Campbell)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2009, 09:40:50 PM
Wow BNM and I like many of the same shows, True Blood, Dexter and Eureka (never seen Burn Notice though I do love Bruce Campbell)

Burn Notice is probably the best show on USA. Monk was good, but its old now. I'm glad they are on their last season. Psych is fun but there is not taking your self too seriously, and then there is Psych. Alot of it is just stupid fun and there is nothing wrong with that, but Burn Notice is noticably better.

I haven't watched In Plain Sight, but Royal Pains is ok too. At first watch you think House M.D. in the Hamptons, but its not. More like Monk the Doctor in the Hamptons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: that Baby guy on August 17, 2009, 09:51:40 PM
BNM, I think you forgot about Psych.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 17, 2009, 09:53:09 PM
Monk has slowly gone downhill in quality (and focus). The show's first few seasons were the best, when the underlying plot thread was Monk trying to find Trudy's killer. They seem to have completely lost that important grounding, though. Tony Shalub has said this next season will be his last.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 17, 2009, 10:22:55 PM
BNM, I think you forgot about Psych.

I mentioned it, but I was mostly rating the 8's and above that I can think of right now. (trying to think of shows that are over or that I would recommend without think of personal preference)
Psych falls more into 7/10 fun guiltless pleasure. It's co-starring Kenny aka "Buuud!!" from the Cosby show (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYRaGrs5iPg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 18, 2009, 11:15:41 AM
Geez BnM watches a lot of tv.

Tv for me is something thats usually just on in the background as i do other things, like cook, clean or browse the forums at home. When its on i usually just keep it on comedy central (makes it easy to get entertainment out of it because usually you don't HAVE to be watching to get the jokes) or in the mornings i'll put on the local news to catch the weather/traffic before work, thats about it.

There are no shows i'm interested in enough to have that "oh man, ___ is on tonight, gotta watch it!", because i never catch any of these new shows. Sure some of them look good, or the impressions you guys give make them sound good, but I never make the efford to catch these shows. Perhaps one day I'll get a tivo or something and start watching these shows when its convenient.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on August 18, 2009, 12:30:48 PM
I've been watching Burn Notice Season 2 on DVD this week. This show keeps a good balance between fun and serious, character development and plot. Miami is a pretty town to film in and the show feels different than what's currently on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2009, 01:25:48 PM
Geez BnM watches a lot of tv.

I have DVR, Netflix & OnDemand. I watch almost everything at my leisure.
I could rate the hell out of the movie thread too, but most of them would be movies you never heard of, I wouldn't really recommend, and you probably wouldn't want to watch (thanx Netflix...).

I also watch almost everything (except the best shows) while surfing the internet at the same time. I'm a great multi-tasker like that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 18, 2009, 02:13:37 PM
Colossal Squid:  10 tentacles out of 10

That was one huge slippery mofo.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 18, 2009, 02:42:21 PM
breaking bad 10/10

weeds 8/10 First 2 seasons 10/10

dexter 10/10

lost 10/10

Californication 8/10

Dead like Me 9/10  Great Show, but sucks how it ended though and the movies wasn't great
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 18, 2009, 03:04:52 PM
^You couldn't describe any of those??

Avatar: The Last Airbender

This takes place in a world where people can manipulate (bend) the elements: earth, fire, water, and air. The Avatar is the only one in the world that has the ability to bend them all. In the beginning, the four nations (each representing a different element) lived together in peace, but using the awesome power of a comet, the fire nation attacked with the ambition of dominating the world. The Avatar could have stopped them, but he was nowhere to be found. A 100 years later, you follow the young avatar named Aang as he masters the elements and tries to restore order to the world. But to do so he must defeat the Fire nation and more incredibly, the Fire Lord, the most powerful bender in the world.

The series is great for two reasons: characters and animation. Both parts were meticulously crafted and make the show incredible to watch. There are moments that gave me goosebumps from the raw emotion presented on screen or the beautiful fighting choreography. This show truly raises the bar in that respect.

The show is funny, quirky, interesting, imaginative, and awe-inspiring. Best of all, the conclusion doesn't fail. Instead it adds more mythos, action and character development and wraps it all into an impressive ending; one of the best endings that I have ever seen.

And that is why I give a 10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2009, 03:11:17 PM
"weeds 8/10 - First 2 seasons 10/10"

I kinda agree, only giving the 1st two season 9's and this last season a 7. It's wierd how they keep forcing Celia onto the show. how did she even find them to begin with?


"lost 10/10"

I'm not sure what to rate LOST yet. I have to see how it concludes. This isn't you normal type of show and every season intersects with another through weird connections so best I can do is give it a 9/10 for overall entertainment & the fact that they still have me watching even though I still don't fully have a grasp on what the hell is going on.


"breaking bad 10/10"

This is that show that comes on AMC right? I saw previews for season 3 and it really had me intrigued. On second thought though, that might have been Mad Men or something like that. What is Breaking Bad about? Has anyone seen Mad Men?


"Avatar: The Last Airbender 10/10"

This is that cartoon that comes on Nick or CN or something right?
And this also has absolutely not connection to the movie coming out pretty soon right?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 18, 2009, 03:19:23 PM
Yep, it's a nickelodeon show if you can believe it (it shows blood and deals alot with death and treachery).

The Last Airbender (the movie) is based from the show. M. Night Shamalamalamamalon said he isn't changing **** either, which is good (what a twist!). And just like how there were three seasons of the show, there will be three movies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2009, 03:26:42 PM
I was talking about the James Cameron movie Avatar.
Just making sure they weren't related. Didn't know M. Night. Shayamalamananananam still got work in Hollywood.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 18, 2009, 04:35:32 PM
Torchwood: Children of Earth. 8/10.

Science fiction done properly. John Barrowman is as camp as ever in places, but the story was strong (except in points in Days Two & Four), it felt tight over 5 consecutive days and the ending of Day Five fits in perfectly into Jack's reintroduction into Doctor Who for the role of The Doctor handing over from David Tennant to Matt Smith.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 18, 2009, 05:07:28 PM
I was talking about the James Cameron movie Avatar.
Just making sure they weren't related. Didn't know M. Night. Shayamalamananananam still got work in Hollywood.

Ya, they renamed it "The Last Airbender" so there would be no confusion with Cameron's film. Hopefully, they'll both rock.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 18, 2009, 08:58:48 PM
Fringe 5/10

I have no idea what this show is trying to achieve. The plot goes all over the place and gets resolved weekly by a walking Deus ex machina "doctor" whose idea of science is based on the X-files. While Alias had many similar problems, it was a heck of a lot more entertaining.

Burn Notice love/10

A completely awesome show. Funny, intelligent, serious and well written. I combines everything I might love. Macguyver, insane women, spies, explosions. Miami finally gets a fair showing that it isn't CSI Miami portrayal as shoot out capital USA.

Chuck 9/10

Can't go wrong. It's got a lot of what Burn Notice has, but with a heavy geek/nerd slant and a somewhat more overblown plot. They almost wrote themselves in to a hole last season (mostly because of the limited premise of the show), but next season looks even more promising than ever as the main characters have finally developed enough to move to the next level and expand the show.

Californication 6.5/10

An interesting show that doesn't care what it is doing. I don't really care about the characters, the plot or anything about this show but what stupid messed up thing happens next.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: stevey on August 18, 2009, 09:09:59 PM
Don't have much time for following TV show watching anymore

Burn Notice 10.1/10

Best new show I've seen in years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 19, 2009, 12:21:38 AM
Hell's Kitchen - 8/10, it's definitely made over-the-edge in order to cater to it's Fox audience, but it's still damn entertaining, especially if you're in the restaurant business.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 19, 2009, 03:12:35 AM
breaking bad is about a chemistry teacher with lung cancer whose wife is pregnant with a baby, and his teenage son has cerebral palsy. He sells Meth with a former student to pay for their futures along with his cancer treatment. You think your life is bad? The show is riveting! Its like weeds on meth.

The colony 6/10 A great idea that could have been executed better, minus points for being obviously staged.
Title: True Blood V----V/10
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 03:38:55 AM
(http://i31.tinypic.com/jl2qkw.jpg)

there are two people in this pic... do you see them?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 19, 2009, 10:05:11 AM
breaking bad is about a chemistry teacher with lung cancer whose wife is pregnant with a baby, and his teenage son has cerebral palsy. He sells Meth with a former student to pay for their futures along with his cancer treatment. You think your life is bad? The show is riveting! Its like weeds on meth.

The colony 6/10 A great idea that could have been executed better, minus points for being obviously staged.

Thats one of the few shows in recent memory i've seen ads for and looked interesting, but as usual i never end up watching. I really need to get either a dvr/tivo or a decent computer so i can watch these shows online.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 11:22:23 AM
I watched an episode of The Colony on DSC the other day. It reminded me of the European version of Big Brother that spunoff to a show about "Big Brother" only the people joining the show didn't know they were gonna have to survive during a Zombie outbreak.... only The Colony wasn't that interesting. 

Some of the people impressed me with their ingenuity with putting together parts from random machines to create other machines, especially one that generates electricity, but like ThePerm said, it suffered from obviously being staged. Which is not it's fault since it does take place in the middle of LA.   They probably should have moved the show to some unknown abandoned factory town in CA, it might have helped with the atmosphere.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on August 19, 2009, 12:18:59 PM
Oh man you guys throw 10/10's out like they're nothing. I'd only ever give 5 TV shows perfect 10/10's.

The Office (UK original)
Futurama (The movies don't count)
Seinfeld (Season 8 & 9 weren't as great though)
Curb Your Enthusiasm (Sooooooo pumped for Season 7, it's gonna be Seinfeld x Curb. I think of too many greater things)

Arrested Development (I'd actually give this 100/10)

Of the **** I have been watching recently though, basically on DVD.

Flight Of The Conchords - 7/10
Two New Zealanders in a comedy folk rock band try to make it in America. The first season was good and had relevant songs, in the second the jokes are starting wear thin and most of the songs suck.

Scrubs - 7.5/10
Daydreaming doctor clowning around in a hospital. First 5 seasons were gold, season 6 and 7 sucked. 8 was a return to form and had a great ending for the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 12:44:54 PM
I've only given 1 show a 10/10 because only one show has drawn me in to the point where one of the actors might have gotten his ass whooped on sight. That's The Shield. I seriously has a "Wanted: Dead or Alive" reward going in my head. I knew it was just an actor on the show, but I wanted his head on a stake.  If a show can draw you in with great over arching story lines, excellent acting & unique flimography till you're so invested and dedicated that you almost take the show is a reality, then that definitely says something either about my grip on reality or the excellence of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 19, 2009, 03:28:10 PM
Oh man you guys throw 10/10's out like they're nothing. I'd only ever give 5 TV shows perfect 10/10's.

I've noticed that too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 05:09:12 PM
Oh man you guys throw 10/10's out like they're nothing. I'd only ever give 5 TV shows perfect 10/10's.

I've noticed that too.

Wanna know whats really funny about that statement...?

# of 10/10's given in this thread

BNM - 1
Pro - 1 (jokingly)
The Perm - 4
Stogi - 1
stevey - 1
Dasmos (who made the comment about passing out 10's like candy) - 5

8 (10's) between 5 people vs 5 (10's) from 1

So who's passing them out like nothing?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 19, 2009, 06:54:40 PM
i only gave 3 10/10s

when i said weeds was 8/10 but the first 2 seasons were 10/10 i meant, man weeds has been going downhill. That 2nd 10/10 didnt count
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 19, 2009, 07:04:14 PM
Excuse me. May I have your attention please.

The first episode of Dexter has just been released on the internet.

That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 07:18:42 PM
Excuse me. May I have your attention please.

The first episode of Dexter has just been released on the internet.

That is all.

I will wait until it airs or a block of them consistently hit the airwaves. I don't want to watch now and be left hanging for a few weeks until another new episode.

i only gave 3 10/10s

when i said weeds was 8/10 but the first 2 seasons were 10/10 i meant, man weeds has been going downhill. That 2nd 10/10 didnt count

I realize that, but the point was that the person calling us out for giving out 10's gave out the most 10's.
I even included Pro's even though he was obviously joking
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 19, 2009, 07:51:28 PM
yeah i watched the first episode of weeds this season on Netflix, then they didn't have the other episodes. I missed 3 episodes thinking i would just catch up only to find out that they even pulled the first one. I had to wait till a marathon to catch up, and shortly after we canceled our cable, so i was left hanging.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on August 19, 2009, 11:43:02 PM
Yeah, I am going to remove Seinfeld and Curb from my list. There are episodes and Seasons which I avoid, so they don't deserve it. Anyway they are the only 10's I would give out of all the TV shows I have watched, definitely nothing recently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 11:51:48 PM
Operation Repo: 187/10 (187 as in *censored* each and every single repo person on this show)

Ahhh!!! I can't stand repo people, especially these holier than thou self righteous I'm jackin you for your *censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*
*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*
*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*
*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored*censored* assholes.

I wanna miss a payment on something just so they can show up to my house. I know I would end up in jail, and people would say "was it really worth it over a car" and my only reply would be "...it wasn't about the car". But atleast I would put an end to this show. No reality show gets me worked up more than this one & I hate watching it, but my girl won't change the freaking channel!!!!!! because she knows how I get worked up while this show is on. I'm always rooting for the hopeful gun toting, knife wielding, crazy, murderous psycho to be the next repo. I just never get what I was hoping for.

I'm sure it has to do with the fact that I've had a car repo'd and the repo man tried to kill us(story for another time), but this show gets under my skin.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 20, 2009, 12:19:51 AM
god that show gets me pissed of so much, actually there is court precedence saying if you tell them no and they persist than they have to leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repossession

The other show that makes my blood boil is the meter cop show..**** that bullshit
**** parking wars, parking fees are an immoral practice. A good design structure should make places for regular visitors to park and also allow walkability.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 20, 2009, 12:45:36 AM
god that show gets me pissed of so much, actually there is court precedence saying if you tell them no and they persist than they have to leave.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repossession

The other show that makes my blood boil is the meter cop show..**** that bullshit
**** parking wars, parking fees are an immoral practice. A good design structure should make places for regular visitors to park and also allow walkability.

I wish I could forward that link to every single person on that show that got something repo'd against their will.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 20, 2009, 12:58:48 AM
Excuse me. May I have your attention please.

The first episode of Dexter has just been released on the internet.

That is all.

I will wait until it airs or a block of them consistently hit the airwaves. I don't want to watch now and be left hanging for a few weeks until another new episode.

Suit yourself. Just thought I'd let you know.

**** was crazy btw
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 20, 2009, 01:40:13 AM
Excuse me. May I have your attention please.

The first episode of Dexter has just been released on the internet.

That is all.

I will wait until it airs or a block of them consistently hit the airwaves. I don't want to watch now and be left hanging for a few weeks until another new episode.

Suit yourself. Just thought I'd let you know.

**** was crazy btw

Don't tempt me. let me know if ep2 shows up as well, I might bite if I can get a few eps ahead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 20, 2009, 08:02:33 AM

Scrubs - 7.5/10
Daydreaming doctor clowning around in a hospital. First 5 seasons were gold, season 6 and 7 sucked. 8 was a return to form and had a great ending for the series.

Finally someone mentions a show I watch and enjoy greatly! :P
I actually didn't get in to Scrubs until they started airing the series on comedy central, but then i fell in love with it. Sadly, i somehow missed the last few seasons so until CC starts catching up.. I have no idea what happens after JD's son is born, etc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: stevey on August 20, 2009, 12:35:15 PM
Oh man you guys throw 10/10's out like they're nothing. I'd only ever give 5 TV shows perfect 10/10's.

I've noticed that too.

Wanna know whats really funny about that statement...?

# of 10/10's given in this thread

BNM - 1
Pro - 1 (jokingly)
The Perm - 4
Stogi - 1
stevey - 1
Dasmos (who made the comment about passing out 10's like candy) - 5

8 (10's) between 5 people vs 5 (10's) from 1

So who's passing them out like nothing?

Hey, what's wrong with giving out 10/10 to good things? Also you can't just go around comparing other people's reviews score scales to each other...

EX:
The (shitty) NWR scale
10 ?­??
9 The second coming
8 Amazing
7 Awesome
6 Good
5 OK
4 Meh
3 Boring
2 Bad
1 Crap
0 Unplayable-ly broken

The Zelda scale
11/10 Amazing
10/10 Awesome
9.5/10 Great
9/10 Good
8.8/10 ****
<8.5 Just plain embarrassing
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 20, 2009, 01:00:02 PM
There is nothing wrong with giving out 10's to things you think deserve them. I was just pointing out that the person ridiculing us for giving out soo many 10's, gave out more 10's than any of us.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2009, 12:26:06 AM
Bravo stevey, Bravo.

Look, if you guys want to balance it out, go watch some rubbish shows like Days of Our Lives and give it a 0/10. I am sure that will make everyone here happy.

Reality 0/10

Any talent/singing/idol show. Why zero?, because none of them has anything as talented as this.

http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/08/ukraines-got-real-talent.html (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2009/08/ukraines-got-real-talent.html) Or this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uYne5ezkfw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2F (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uYne5ezkfw&eurl=http%3A%2F%2F)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heMgid4rkzU&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heMgid4rkzU&feature=related)

I also hate reality TV is a passion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2009, 12:43:12 AM
Sex Decoy: -5/10

This show is absolutely horrible. It wants to be like Cheaters (which is entertaining 7/10), but they never actually catch anybody doing anything. Everything is left up to "what ifs", "might haves" & "maybes".

example you say. sure why not.
Man suspect fiance of cheating because lately she always takes his dog (which she hates) to the dog park after work. So instead of staking out the dog park for a few days(like any idiot investigator would do) to see if she is meeting someone there, they immediately set up a male decoy through one of the female investigators to approach her, but they **** it all up. the female investigator approachers her and is very blunt in introducing the male decoy and aggressively sets up a double date between the "mark", the decoy, the investigator and her imaginary BF. It ends up with "the mark" the decoy & the investigator in the park and they ask if she("the mark") is married, to which she honestly replied "No, I'm not married".....
her fiance jumps out of the van(prematurely) and confronts her right away and they still haven't proved that she was doing anything.

It's the exact same thing with the woman trying to catch her husband cheating. They have no proof of anything and leave you with a bunch of "well at this point they could have done this or this.... but we moved in too early to prove that any of that would have even happened."

This show is pointless.


Cheaters 7/10

This show is the perfect background distraction. You put this show on while you surf the net or do (home)work. The situation they find people in is just some damn entertaining television and nothing beats the expression and the arguments you see once the wrong doing cheater is confronted. Sometimes they run, sometimes they beg for forgiveness. Sometimes they leave with their cheatee & other times the accuser gets put in their place. You just never know, and thats what makes it great. In one episode the host of the show got stabbed and thrown off the side of a boat.... you can't script that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2009, 04:58:55 PM
The only drama I could give an unqualified 10/10 would be Star Trek: Deep Space 9. If you're not a Star Trek fan you may have some kind of preconceived notion of what the series is, and chances are you're way off when it comes to Deep Space 9. DS9 is unlike any other Star Trek; it's by far the best written, and somehow manages to simultaneously be the darkest Trek and the funniest Trek. There's so much more story depth and character development in DS9 than in any other Trek series or movie. I'd say that there are fewer than 5 episodes of the series that aren't at least very good, and the Dominion War storyline that takes place over the latter half of the series is amazing. I'm a big fan of Star Trek in general, but I'd put Deep Space 9 head and shoulders over anything else the series has ever done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 25, 2009, 03:17:20 PM
The only drama I could give an unqualified 10/10 would be Star Trek: Deep Space 9. If you're not a Star Trek fan you may have some kind of preconceived notion of what the series is, and chances are you're way off when it comes to Deep Space 9. DS9 is unlike any other Star Trek; it's by far the best written, and somehow manages to simultaneously be the darkest Trek and the funniest Trek. There's so much more story depth and character development in DS9 than in any other Trek series or movie. I'd say that there are fewer than 5 episodes of the series that aren't at least very good, and the Dominion War storyline that takes place over the latter half of the series is amazing. I'm a big fan of Star Trek in general, but I'd put Deep Space 9 head and shoulders over anything else the series has ever done.

Nope, sorry, lifelong Trekkie here, and urong. The best show, by far, was Next Generation. It basically laid the foundation for every Star Trek that came afterward. TOS has its place, but it's almost too campy to revisit. Star Trek is about diplomacy, peace, and exploration: Next Generation basically defined each term. DS9 tried and succeeded for awhile, but when the Gem'Hadar/Founders/Federation war started dragging beyond two seasons, things quickly went downhill. Religion was also a heavy theme in DS9 (Bajoran gods) which didn't gel with the rest of the series (or franchise). It eventually turned into something of a soap opera.

Voyager inhereted Next Generation's mantle and, for a time, provided a worthy follow-up. Then the Borg thing happened. Always with the goddamn Borg in Voyager. Toward the end of the show, it was Borg Borg Borg. That annoyed me. The first four (maybe five) seasons were great. The exploration of Seven as a disconnected Borg was great, but they didn't need to, afterwards, Borgify the entire show.

Anyway.

I just started Home Movies. You'll only like this show if you liked Dr. Katz (which I did): it's by the same people, but a little more plot-driven. My favorite part of Katz was the interaction between Dr. Katz and his son, I ddin't so much like the therapy sessions, which were just comedians doing their routines. Home Movies removes that aspect of the show and focuses on the characters, which I like.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 25, 2009, 03:24:42 PM
Home Movies, with Brendan Small?

Have you gotten to the guitar lesson? It's probably my favorite scene.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 26, 2009, 10:02:18 AM
Cheaters 7/10

I'm sad I've never actually seen this show.. the most I've seen were clips on Talk The Soup and I've LOVED 'em. My favorite was when they caught this one guy in the middle of his bondage fetish. The dominatrix had him bent over on the bed and was in the middle of whipping him when they burst thru the motel door and his/her (they were debating whether or not the dominatrix was a woman lol) reaction was PRICELESS. I think the gimp had a gimp mask on, but i'm not positive, but i'm sure the look on his face was just as epic. He runs out after his gf/fiance, with his hands tied and his little bondage outfit, and begs for forgiveness. He also tried to claim that he was doing those acts for the benefit of the relationship, claimed he had some intimacy issues he had to work out lol
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 26, 2009, 12:45:42 PM
Cheaters 7/10

I'm sad I've never actually seen this show.. the most I've seen were clips on Talk The Soup and I've LOVED 'em. My favorite was when they caught this one guy in the middle of his bondage fetish. The dominatrix had him bent over on the bed and was in the middle of whipping him when they burst thru the motel door and his/her (they were debating whether or not the dominatrix was a woman lol) reaction was PRICELESS. I think the gimp had a gimp mask on, but i'm not positive, but i'm sure the look on his face was just as epic. He runs out after his gf/fiance, with his hands tied and his little bondage outfit, and begs for forgiveness. He also tried to claim that he was doing those acts for the benefit of the relationship, claimed he had some intimacy issues he had to work out lol

I saw that one when it aired on Cheaters. Classic TV moment and the guy is lucky he was wearing a mask. It was so obviously a tranny dom that it was just disgusting. So many great TV moments have been had on that show. You chould check it out if you get the chance. It comes on G4tv all the time and Fox Reality channel too i think.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 27, 2009, 09:08:14 AM
How many times do you guys have to make me feel inferior for not having:

-"good" cable channels
-tivo/dvr service
-netflix
-a decent computer with the ability to use sites like hulu

???
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 27, 2009, 01:39:22 PM
Some other good moments from cheaters is when this guy finds out that his girl is sleeping with her male cousin, or when some girl gets caught and flips the whole thing back onto her husband and gives him the guilt trip to where he started apologizing. There was also another one where some old school playa (black man) got caught while with the other woman and basically told his woman to either get with the program or bounce. He really put her in her place, it was kinda funny.

Then there where these two episodes that involved same sex cheating. The first one, this guy finds his fiance tied up to the bed with three other girl massaging her with oils and dildos and getting really really kinky. She tried to say it was for him or some bullshit, but I don't think she invited him to join in.
In the next one, this guy finds his girl sleeping with another woman, he confronts her and both women invite him to join in and he can have 2 women. I was surprised to see him say NO. You just never know what you're gonna see on that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 27, 2009, 01:45:53 PM
How many times do you guys have to make me feel superior for having better things to do than watch TV all day?

???
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 27, 2009, 01:51:10 PM
How many times do you guys have to make me feel superior for having better things to do than watch TV all day?

???

Like armchair mod the forums and post here all day?

Lucky for me I get to do 3 things all day long.
Work(mostly from home), watch TV(or movies) & surf the net. all at the same time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 27, 2009, 02:09:34 PM
Since i don't watch tv all day long, does that make me superior too?

???
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 27, 2009, 02:11:13 PM
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on August 27, 2009, 02:44:26 PM
So taking the vudu route; Yes, I am superior to everyone here that watches too much tv ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 28, 2009, 02:11:38 AM
The only drama I could give an unqualified 10/10 would be Star Trek: Deep Space 9. If you're not a Star Trek fan you may have some kind of preconceived notion of what the series is, and chances are you're way off when it comes to Deep Space 9. DS9 is unlike any other Star Trek; it's by far the best written, and somehow manages to simultaneously be the darkest Trek and the funniest Trek. There's so much more story depth and character development in DS9 than in any other Trek series or movie. I'd say that there are fewer than 5 episodes of the series that aren't at least very good, and the Dominion War storyline that takes place over the latter half of the series is amazing. I'm a big fan of Star Trek in general, but I'd put Deep Space 9 head and shoulders over anything else the series has ever done.

Nope, sorry, lifelong Trekkie here, and urong. The best show, by far, was Next Generation. It basically laid the foundation for every Star Trek that came afterward. TOS has its place, but it's almost too campy to revisit. Star Trek is about diplomacy, peace, and exploration: Next Generation basically defined each term. DS9 tried and succeeded for awhile, but when the Gem'Hadar/Founders/Federation war started dragging beyond two seasons, things quickly went downhill. Religion was also a heavy theme in DS9 (Bajoran gods) which didn't gel with the rest of the series (or franchise). It eventually turned into something of a soap opera.

Voyager inhereted Next Generation's mantle and, for a time, provided a worthy follow-up. Then the Borg thing happened. Always with the goddamn Borg in Voyager. Toward the end of the show, it was Borg Borg Borg. That annoyed me. The first four (maybe five) seasons were great. The exploration of Seven as a disconnected Borg was great, but they didn't need to, afterwards, Borgify the entire show.

Anyway.

I just started Home Movies. You'll only like this show if you liked Dr. Katz (which I did): it's by the same people, but a little more plot-driven. My favorite part of Katz was the interaction between Dr. Katz and his son, I ddin't so much like the therapy sessions, which were just comedians doing their routines. Home Movies removes that aspect of the show and focuses on the characters, which I like.



The Next Generation is very overrated. At it's best it's unbelievably great but most of the time it's probably my least favorite Trek series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 29, 2009, 01:21:47 AM
the big bang theory 3/10, l had to change the channel its like a really long star trek geek snl skit that isn't that good. I didn't even stay to see if they leave the house, but i doubt they do.

...wait i thought this was a new show...i just wikipedia's it and its been on for 3 seasons....Tv guide totally made it out to be new.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 29, 2009, 10:44:34 AM
The Middleman: 9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 01, 2009, 12:48:29 AM
Defying Gravity 8/10 pretty good, a little slow...i just hope they don't cancel it!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 06, 2009, 12:22:21 AM
I haven't seen mention of Ghost Whisperer yet.
The premise is a girl can see ghosts and she tries to get the ghosts to cross over. I've seen a few episodes and I like what I have seen thus far. 8/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 06, 2009, 11:43:51 AM
The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien infinity/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 06, 2009, 12:17:52 PM
The Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien infinity/10.

That's not nearly high enough.


NewsRadio - 9.5/10

I just recently finished watching through the whole series and it's a great one. A really great ensemble cast featuring the great Phil Hartman and the very underrated Stephen Root along with some other very good actors and actresses. An extremely well-written show, I'd call it the greatest live-action TV comedy ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 06, 2009, 03:26:52 PM
News Radio was the ****, so was "Working" with Fred Savage. I can't believe that show got canceled so quickly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 06, 2009, 04:22:06 PM
News Radio was the ****, so was "Working" with Fred Savage. I can't believe that show got canceled so quickly.

:thumbs up; x2

The office attraction episode of Working was so true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 08, 2009, 01:34:52 PM
It's Seinfeld that's the greatest live-action sitcom ever.

I just watched the pilot of "Glee." It's got real potential. Loved the ending (DON'T STOP...BELIEVING!), but the all-vocals soundtrack bothers me. It's what kept me from enjoying "10 Items or Less" (well, that and the writing), and I don't like it here, either.

I'm liking the third season of "Mad Men" so far, too. Christine Hendricks may have the best figure on television today.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2009, 02:18:27 PM
Seinfeld's a great show, but there are definitely a couple I'd put ahead of it. Maybe it's just because I've seen every Seinfeld too many times but that hasn't stopped me from putting The Simpsons in the number one slot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2009, 02:42:40 PM
The Simpsons sucks hasn't been good for more years than it's was good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2009, 02:59:20 PM
That's irrelevant and also depends on where you put the line for where it stopped being good. Personally, while I think it stopped being great around season 10 I'd say it was still good until 12 or 14. Even then, seasons 3-9 are the 7 best seasons of any TV show ever. No one's forcing you to watch the newer stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2009, 03:03:36 PM
I don't even watch the older stuff.

I've never really been a Simpsons fan. It can be entertaining, but I never really found it funny all that often. There are definitely episodes that I like, but those were far and few inbetween. Not enough to keep me into the show for the last 18 or so seasons.

I've read threads of Simpson fans talking about the show, and most of them have agreed that the show has been lacking for atleast 8 or more years. So while I haven't watched the show(outside of an episode or 3 or 4) in more than 6-7 years, I know I'm not the only one to feel the show has not been what it used to be for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 08, 2009, 03:50:54 PM
No, it hasn't been good for a while. Like I said, I'd say it was good through season 12 or 14, season 21 starts pretty soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2009, 04:12:13 PM
is it really upto season 21 already!?

I can't wait to see what the complete collectors edition is gonna look like and cost whenever this show finally decides to end. I can't wait till Futurama comes back. It was like the Simpsons only funny since they didn't have to be grounded in reality. I'm sure the Simpson writers have run out of fresh ideas a long time ago and are just running on auto-pilot. I'm sure they could really use something different like Futurama to allow a little more creative freedom to bring the funny back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 08, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
Why, Halbred....why?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 08, 2009, 05:13:40 PM
The older Simpsons seasons are by far the best. My two favorite episodes are: 1) Where Homer becomes obese...

"The hand you have used to dial is too fat. Too obtain a special dialing wand, please mash the keypad with your palm now."

And 2) When Sideshow Bob is pursuing Bart for the first time...

"Very well, Bart. I shall send you to heaven before I send you to hell. And a two and a three and.."

Seinfeld is great no matter how many times I see it. I won an autographed script in a contest, so I have a special connection with the show. I can recite lines like nobody's business, and I used to do dialogues from the show onstage when I was in high school. Unlike so many shows I see, there's never an episode of Seinfeld that I won't watch. That is, there are no BAD episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 08, 2009, 05:20:18 PM
Quote from: Halbred
I just watched the pilot of "Glee."

I actually have an excuse for having seen this. What's yours?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2009, 05:35:01 PM
I watched it out of curiosity. Is it HS Musical done right? I wouldn't know since I've never seen HS Musical, but at the same time I don't see myself tuning in for this one. If FOX had advertised Arrested Development as much as they do this show*, then AD would probably still be on the air.

*I've seen so many ads for Glee for so long, they led me to believe I missed the first season already.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 08, 2009, 07:57:32 PM
I watched the first ep of Glee and it wasn't bad at aall, but then i never watched another episode, they have it on Hulu and i could catch up, but it seems like it could be all soap opera-y. The main teachers story arch reminds me of the story arch from the character from Freedom Writers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2009, 08:47:22 PM
But the show hasn't aired yet.... has it?

What would you be catching up on?
I know they hav the pilot episode up on Hulu, but the series premier is tonite.

...or so I thought.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 08, 2009, 09:00:41 PM
I believe they showed it about 3 months ago as a preview.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2009, 09:18:41 AM
is it really upto season 21 already!?

I can't wait to see what the complete collectors edition is gonna look like and cost whenever this show finally decides to end. I can't wait till Futurama comes back. It was like the Simpsons only funny since they didn't have to be grounded in reality. I'm sure the Simpson writers have run out of fresh ideas a long time ago and are just running on auto-pilot. I'm sure they could really use something different like Futurama to allow a little more creative freedom to bring the funny back.

To me the grounding in reality is what makes The Simpsons great as opposed to something like Family Guy that's just crazy. The great thing about Futurama was that it got to be realistic and crazy at the same time because of a crazy reality.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 09, 2009, 01:34:02 PM
But The Simpsons have done all they can with the characters and the setting. The have literally done everything. I hear that they have been recycling ideas because there is nothing left to do. I just think Futurama will bring some creativity back to the writers with characters and setting that haven't been milked dry already.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2009, 01:59:18 PM
Yeah, they're pretty much out of ideas, I didn't even watch the last season. I also can't wait until Futurama comes back, that show was just as good as the best years of The Simpsons, the only reason I have Simpsons at 1 and Futurama at 2 is The Simpsons did it first and was there longer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on September 09, 2009, 02:10:31 PM
I hear that they have been recycling ideas

They have. I tuned into a new episode once and thought "wait a minute, didn't they already have this storyline? Why would Bart steal the head off another statue?*" It was kinda sad. Keep in mind this was at least 2 years ago lol

**This wasn't the plot of the newer episode, just happened to be the first instantly recognizable plot from the series history.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 10, 2009, 04:09:24 AM
that would explain why i hadn't seen it since, I watched it after the season finale of American Idol
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 13, 2009, 09:11:32 PM
I just finished my Avatar: The Last Airbender - Book 1 (http://www.netflix.com/WiMovie/Avatar_The_Last_Airbender_Book_1/70043989?trkid=1211018) Marathon.
Lets just say that Book 2 & 3 have been added to the Netflix list. It's too bad that Book 2 & 3 aren't on the Instant Watch list like Book 1, otherwise the marathon would continue.

I don't want to rant and rave at how good of a cartoon it is, but there was really only one episode that I saw that was "uuggghhh ::rolleyes::" worthy, the great divide with the feuding tribes episode.

Now I look forward to the Last Airbender movie that's coming up, and the next two books of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 13, 2009, 10:07:28 PM
Yeah, I hated that episode too.

Season 2 and 3 are way better than 1, so look forward to those. There's an episode in Season 2 called "The Desert" and it was the reason I decided to watch Avatar. It's one of my favorite episodes.

However, there's a couple of episodes I don't particularly enjoy in the those seasons though, just like "The Great Divide" mainly because it doesn't progress the story, shed light on earlier events, or has weak action scenes. Still, all the episodes are generally more action packed, more story driven and more hilarious. This is especially true for season 3 with the finale being one of the greatest endings I've seen in recent history.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 13, 2009, 10:32:25 PM
So the show is still on-going?
is Book 3 a Season Finale or a Series Finale?

Because Book 3 was back in 2007.

Also, do you know if the movie is re-telling the story, or is it a continuation of?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 13, 2009, 10:57:10 PM
Book 3 concludes the series. Though there is a rumor that they may continue the show with another avatar, past or future.

The movies are a re-telling of the series. They are planning on a making it trilogy with each movie representing a different book. Each book has a main subplot along with an overarching plot, so it makes sense to make a trilogy (unlike, say, The Pirates of the Caribbean).

The story and setting are great, so my main concerns with the movie are the cast and director.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 19, 2009, 04:52:58 AM
Jericho 7/10 so far, its kinda slow, but maybe it'll pick up. I'm only on episode 5.  A show about Nuclear holocaust should get better as things get worse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2009, 12:49:04 PM
Jericho 7/10 so far, its kinda slow, but maybe it'll pick up. I'm only on episode 5.  A show about Nuclear holocaust should get better as things get worse.
Jericho: 7/10

Post Apocalyptic America. Surviving in a small town with no idea whats going on in the rest of the country. 1st half of the 1st season was slow as they were doing the character building, but the 2nd half of the 1st season is where things really got interesting. I immediately jumped into the 2nd season, but it was only a few episodes long, which was too bad because the 2nd season was excellent from episode 1 till the end.

Keep watching, it gets better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 19, 2009, 06:27:11 PM
2 weeks later really made that difference now its approaching 8 terriory, by the end of season 1(alot of episodes in season 1..its more like 2 seasons itself) things should start to approach Road Warrior(things have totally gone ape ****). Were still in Mad Max territory(agencies are still running, but things are a little nuts). Too bad it got canceled
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2009, 08:07:04 PM
what episode are you on?

Once the show picks up, it never really slows down again. s2 was short and sweet, but they knew the show was getting canceled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 19, 2009, 08:59:15 PM
Speaking of Jericho, I just found out the other day that there is a comic book miniseries coming out written by writers of the show that continues the storyline.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 20, 2009, 01:38:55 AM
its getting good, especially since ep 12
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2009, 09:22:14 PM
now I wish it never ended, Jericho got to be 10/10 at the end. I'm hoping the comic is as good as the show was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 21, 2009, 10:17:51 PM
now I wish it never ended, Jericho got to be 10/10 at the end. I'm hoping the comic is as good as the show was.

I'm glad you share the same thoughts on Jericho that I did. It's a shame that I didn't start watching the show until long after it was canceled. But I probably wouldn't have stuck it out through the 1st half of the first season if I had to wait a week in between episodes for about 2.5 months.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 22, 2009, 12:22:38 AM
I found out that besides the comic book, a movie might be in the cards too.

http://www.tv.com/story/12123.html
http://scifiwire.com/2009/07/is-a-jericho-wrap-up-tv-m.php

speaking of good shows that got canned too early....Defying Gravity, i knew it would get canned. Or at least its in a shady hiatus mode before the season finished.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 22, 2009, 01:44:48 AM
Tonight's Episode of House was Pure-Awesome/10.

Seriously, I know there are some people who cannot stand this show.  I don't know why though...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 22, 2009, 02:11:00 AM
Tonight's Episode of House was Pure-Awesome/10.

Seriously, I know there are some people who cannot stand this show.  I don't know why though...

I knew where is was going for certain parts, but I loves every second of it.
I figured it was 2 hours long from the start so that they could wrap up the entire opening storyline and get back to diagnostics, but they really managed a touching moment with the release of the voice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 22, 2009, 02:18:02 AM
Watched my first episode of Heroes tonight. What season are they on?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 22, 2009, 02:22:05 AM
Tonight's Episode of House was Pure-Awesome/10.

Seriously, I know there are some people who cannot stand this show.  I don't know why though...

I knew where is was going for certain parts, but I loves every second of it.
I figured it was 2 hours long from the start so that they could wrap up the entire opening storyline and get back to diagnostics, but they really managed a touching moment with the release of the voice.

Yeah, as soon as they introduced the character who couldn't talk it was painfully obvious how that was going to end.

I would *love* to see Mayfield as a spin-off series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 22, 2009, 02:27:44 AM
Tonight's Episode of House was Pure-Awesome/10.

Seriously, I know there are some people who cannot stand this show.  I don't know why though...

I knew where is was going for certain parts, but I loves every second of it.
I figured it was 2 hours long from the start so that they could wrap up the entire opening storyline and get back to diagnostics, but they really managed a touching moment with the release of the voice.

Yeah, as soon as they introduced the character who couldn't talk it was painfully obvious how that was going to end.

I would *love* to see Mayfield as a spin-off series.

It worked with NCIS for NCIS LA so it could happen. House could even make a pity appearance every now and then.... to check up on "Super Man"`& "Annoy-A-Lot".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 24, 2009, 05:22:07 AM
I realize that I'm the last person in the world to discover this show, but Firefly: Blown-Away/10. I joined the Sci-Fi/Fantasy Club at my college, we had our first meeting tonight and we watched the first episode of it. I can't wait to see the rest of them and the movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2009, 05:29:19 AM
The movie was good, never seen the TV show though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 24, 2009, 10:58:38 AM
It's always Sunny In Philadelphia, season 5, episode 1... they're at it, yet again lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 24, 2009, 11:21:54 AM
Yeah...that show is awesome. I'm glad to see it back on the air.

Now if the Boondocks would return already for season 3, I'd be golden.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 24, 2009, 04:33:33 PM
The Boondocks

This show is about two children (Huey and Riley, 10 and 8 respectively), and their Grand dad, Robert Freeman (yes it's a pun). It is one of the finest pieces of television I've seen in a long time. It's just so damn funny. It came out so long ago, but I still watch an episode at least once a week. While the second season was more for laughs, especially because it followed my favorite character, Riley, the first season makes a lot of good points about some diligent topics. This show is definitely geared towards the brothas, but I have many non-black friends think it's funny as hell; funny enough to buy the dvds. The dvds are even more hilarious because they are uncensored and this show does cuss alot.

It also has Charlie Murphy, Samuel L. Jackson, and even Katt Williams lending their voices for characters.

Anyway, can't wait for the third season which comes out this year sometime.

10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2009, 04:56:36 PM
The Boondocks (the cartoon version) is horrible.  The first couple years of the comic strip were great.  When Caesar was introduced the strip jumped the shark.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 24, 2009, 08:10:09 PM
Of course you'd say something like that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2009, 08:56:06 PM
I'm sorry, but it's true.  I was really psyched (although skeptical) when I heard they were making a cartoon.  The comic was smart.  It was funny.  It didn't always go for the obvious joke.  I can't say any of those things about the cartoon.  It was made for the lowest common denominator, which generally means those that appreciate the nuances lose out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 24, 2009, 08:57:48 PM
How many episodes have you actually watched? One? Two?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 25, 2009, 01:43:33 PM
I tried watching two.  I didn't make it through either of them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 25, 2009, 02:22:11 PM
As a person that's read the comics after seeing the show, I can more or less say that it stays pretty faithful to it. I think you need to give it another shot.

May I suggest Season 1 - "The Passion of Ruckus"? It's definitely my favorite episode (though not by much), and I feel, out of all the episodes, this one is the most like the comic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 25, 2009, 02:27:49 PM
Is the show available on NetFlix Instant viewing, Hulu, etc.?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on September 25, 2009, 02:28:19 PM
Venture Brothers season 1. I really enjoy this show, after seeing a few episodes on cartoon network I had to get the first season and enjoyed virtually every episode!

8/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 25, 2009, 02:49:09 PM
Is the show available on NetFlix Instant viewing, Hulu, etc.?

Yeah, season 1 is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2009, 03:42:59 PM
Is the show available on NetFlix Instant viewing, Hulu, etc.?

Yeah, season 1 is.

No it's not.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 25, 2009, 04:46:45 PM
I thought you watched it on Netflix?

EDIT: My bad, that was avatar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 25, 2009, 07:01:42 PM
Tonight's Episode of House was Pure-Awesome/10.

Seriously, I know there are some people who cannot stand this show.  I don't know why though...

I agree. My bro hates it saying how its "always a new case every week". I forget hospitals are like that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 27, 2009, 06:57:20 AM
I watched Heroes. I'm officially done. It had 2 hours to grab me, and failed.

I won't be watching anymore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 28, 2009, 02:44:36 PM
i watched part of the first season of heroes, but missed episodes and have been ost ever since, I'll wait till the series is over and then watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
skip S2.
If you do it, you won't know to thank me, but if you don't, you'll wish you had listened.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 29, 2009, 12:03:32 PM
Dexter S04 E01: I can't wait for how this season is going to evolve. Lots of challenges for Dexter.

Californication S03 E01: WTF. LOL! That's all I have to say.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 03, 2009, 03:32:26 PM
Stargate Universe. 9/10. Wow. Tense is the best word for it. And the cast is just full of talent. This is what Atlantis should have evolved into.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 05, 2009, 03:05:03 AM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars (CGI animated)

So I watched the first season and I thought it was incredibly well done. The action, the drama, the voice acting; all of it. I found a site that had the entire season and watched them almost all in a row. Now the second season started on Friday and I finished watching it and man.....it is so dope already. Zero G fight scene? You kidding me? It also sets up Skywalker's inner struggle (though barely). This show is great for anyone who likes well done animation and a solid storyline.

9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 06, 2009, 01:31:16 PM
Dexter, Season 4, Episode 1: I'm simply not going to watch this season if it involves a screaming baby. My wife feels the same way. I already hate the older kids, now Aster is being a fracking brat? The new serial killer looks cool, but...I'm not going to put up with a baby all season.

Mad Men: The Brits don't know how to interact with Americans. It's hilarious, but you feel sorry for everyone at Sterling & Cooper. Don't go, Joan!

Glee: It seems like the show is still trying to find its stride. Kirstin Chenoweth is always a joy, though. Am I the only one who absolutely hates the Rachel character? I want her to DIE.

Packers v. Vikings: I don't know who this Aaron Rodgers guy is, but he can't throw a football to save his life. Every time he got the ball, he got sacked. Seven sacks in one game! Meanwhile, Favre basically PWNED the Packers. He was throwing bullets all night, straight 'n' true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 06, 2009, 02:51:27 PM
You should watch the next episode of Dexter. It's pretty good.

Entourage: This is some bullshit. Ari is by far the only reason to watch this show now. He's carrying it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2009, 04:12:21 PM
Dexter, Season 4, Episode 1: I'm simply not going to watch this season if it involves a screaming baby. My wife feels the same way. I already hate the older kids, now Aster is being a fracking brat? The new serial killer looks cool, but...I'm not going to put up with a baby all season.
You will watch it and you will enjoy it. Probably more than a previous season.

Quote
Glee: It seems like the show is still trying to find its stride. Kirstin Chenoweth is always a joy, though. Am I the only one who absolutely hates the Rachel character? I want her to DIE.

I watched the last episode because of Kristin Chenwoeth. She is such a hot little tiny package. But that lead singer chick sux. You can tell her background is Broadway since she has this need to over act and project to the back of the room. You are on television now, tone it down a bit and be a little more natural. Over expression is not needed when the camera is focused on a close up of your face. That last episode she didn't do it as bad as the first episode, but she was hardly in the episode so it's hard to gauge.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 07, 2009, 12:47:25 AM
Stargate Universe. 9/10. Wow. Tense is the best word for it. And the cast is just full of talent. This is what Atlantis should have evolved into.

There's too much Battlestar Galactica in my Stargate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 07, 2009, 07:46:33 AM
Stargate Universe. 9/10. Wow. Tense is the best word for it. And the cast is just full of talent. This is what Atlantis should have evolved into.

There's too much Battlestar Galactica in my Stargate.

It doesn't feel that similar. It doesn't feel as foreboding and OH NO WERE ALL DOOMED AAAAHHA.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bosshogx on October 07, 2009, 10:37:09 AM
Big Bang Theory S03E02

Awesome as usual.  Too many LOL moments to count.  The only thing that baffles me is how this show is written by the same guy who does Two and a Half Men.  o.0

9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 01:38:16 AM
Monster Bug Wars - **** Yeah!

I'm still watching it on the DSC channel, but this is the tv show version of the website that detailed in video the same things we used to do as kids. Find random insects, put them in an arena and then takes sides on who we think would win a fight.

They profile the insect/arachnids with 3D models and list out their strengths while the narrator dramatizes the entire encounter, complete with expert opinions. They even add sound effect for viewer enjoyment. I think this is one of my new favorite shows.

All I have to say is, that if giant insects ever become a reality, we're all fucked. without a doubt, fucked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 08, 2009, 02:20:51 AM
i never liked the stargate SG1. Atlantis was more tolerable. This new one looks to have grabbed some talent, but the visuals still looked pretty budget. Im thinking this one won't be so bad.  My favorite sc-ifi series of all time is DS9. It looks like it might go that way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2009, 08:26:40 AM
i never liked the stargate SG1. Atlantis was more tolerable. This new one looks to have grabbed some talent, but the visuals still looked pretty budget. Im thinking this one won't be so bad.  My favorite sc-ifi series of all time is DS9. It looks like it might go that way.

Are you serious? I watched it in HD and its stunning. They even said they got the movie division (and not the TV division) of their CGI studio to make the effects.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 08, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
Modern Family

Good comedy about a fairly mixed family. It involves Sofia Vergara, so...it's a winner in my book. They could produce a show involving her sitting in front of a white wall chewing gum and I'd watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 07:07:22 PM
Pushing Daisies - 7.5/10

This show started off all good, but by the time I got to the second season, I just couldn't stand the relationship dynamic anymore. I don't want to give anything away, but annoying f'n couple about wraps it up. Olive was great, Emerson was the man, the Aunts were fine, but the couple of Ned & Chuck... just fucking touch her already. Whats most disappointing about the series though, is how it got canceled in the second season, but they were about 1-2 episodes away from having a satisfying finale. The last episode does a quick wrap up and boom it's over. But to sum this show up in a few words, Dr. Suess for a more mature audience.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2009, 01:48:42 AM
i never liked the stargate SG1. Atlantis was more tolerable. This new one looks to have grabbed some talent, but the visuals still looked pretty budget. Im thinking this one won't be so bad.  My favorite sc-ifi series of all time is DS9. It looks like it might go that way.

Are you serious? I watched it in HD and its stunning.

I have to agree with Plugabugz on this one, and SG1 rules all. I was actually surprised Teal'c did not make an appearance on SGU. Teal'c is awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 09, 2009, 12:23:45 PM
FLASH FOWARD

So I've been watching this show about how everyone on earth blacked out at exactly the same time for exactly the same length. But instead of not remembering anything, people lived out a portion of their lives 6 months into the future. Everyone saw their future and everyone saw their future at the exact same time in the future. It's been pretty interesting so far, and it has a lot of potential. However, I just saw the last episode and because of the cliff hanger ending, I'm probably never going to watch it again.

Thanks alot for nothing/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2009, 01:36:40 PM
That show just never captured me from the beginning, now I wait for the show that looked kinda similar, but was about aliens.

Most of the new fall schedule for network TV really sux, and I'm having a hard time trying to find something to watch through most of the week. I find myself saying "Is it 11 o'clock yet?" because that's when The Daily Show starts.

For those of us that may regularly tune into primetime TV, what are you watching?

Monday: House (Fox 8pm) (Heroes....DVR later)
Tuesday: .....
Wednesday: .....
Thursday: Fringe (Fox 9pm)
Friday: Smallville (CW 8pm) Dexter (Sho 9pm) Monk (USA 9pm) Psych (USA 10pm)
Saturday: .....
Sunday: Animation Dominantion block(minus The Simpsons) (Fox 8:30-10pm)

To be honest, the only days I look forward to are Mon. & Fri. if you exclude Daily Show & Colbert Report.
What else is worth watching regularly?

p.s. I'm waiting to check out V (alien show), Human Target (based on a DC comic) & the return of Chuck (NBC replacing Heroes in March)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: D_Average on October 09, 2009, 02:02:04 PM
Dollhouse 3/5
Bored to Death 4/5
Bears v Lions 5/5 for Cutlers Elway impression
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 09, 2009, 02:04:46 PM
@BlackNMild: I agree, the second season was really up and down. I didn't understand why Olive sang a song in every other episode. Hard to beat the first season of that show, though.

Shows The Wife and I Regularly Watch (or record):

House (me only), Glee, Top Model, The Office, Ugly Better (her), 30 Rock, Mad Men, Dexter, Californication, Daily Show
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2009, 02:42:07 PM
I forgot to add Dexter to my Sunday line up.
30 Rock isn't on right now.
I don't like the lead girl in Glee, she is too broadway for TV.
I watch Top Model from time to time, but I'm not dependent on new episodes, reruns are just fine.
I saw few episodes of Califonication when it first started, but it just seemed like an excuse for Moulder to get naked with women of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Not a fan of The Office and never watched Ugly Betty.

Mad Men is something I've meaning to check out, but I want to start from the beginning.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on October 09, 2009, 02:57:16 PM
I just started watching 30 Rock last week.  So far I'm halfway through season one.  I like it well enough.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bosshogx on October 09, 2009, 02:58:47 PM
I forgot to add Dexter to my Sunday line up.
30 Rock isn't on right now.
I don't like the lead girl in Glee, she is too broadway for TV.
I watch Top Model from time to time, but I'm not dependent on new episodes, reruns are just fine.
I saw few episodes of Califonication when it first started, but it just seemed like an excuse for Moulder to get naked with women of varying degrees of attractiveness.
Not a fan of The Office and never watched Ugly Betty.

Mad Men is something I've meaning to check out, but I want to start from the beginning.

I'd add the Big Bang Theory to your line up, but it's on Monday's (9:30 ABC) so it doesn't help your Tue-Thur dilemma. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 10, 2009, 01:21:44 AM
It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
Infinity/10
Seriously. This is the funniest show ever made by humans. If you have never seen it, you absolutely owe it to yourself and your country to change that weakness about you. You can watch all of them on Hulu or fxnetworks.com for free, I believe, at least the current season. It's basically like Seinfeld, only the characters are complete assholes and alcoholics.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 10, 2009, 04:39:29 AM
^I agree with this completely.

I just watched the most recent episode and it almost made me **** my pants.

true story
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 19, 2009, 01:39:24 PM
Dexter

Oh ****/10

Did not see that coming at all!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 19, 2009, 02:17:01 PM
Dexter (yesterday): Good episode, though the Angel/LaGuirta subplot is quickly getting old. The end was a shocker, though! Poor Debra!

Californication: The show becomes more juvenile the longer is going on, especially this season. I'm starting to not believe that Hank Moody could actually operate in the real world. This season is kind of all over the place: the only consistent storyline is Runkel's, which is fine, but Hank is being pulled in too many directions. However, I've been enjoying Eva Amurri's strip club scenes.

30 Rock: Great season opener.

Bones: Just watched the first disk of the first season. People have been telling me to watch it for a long time, and I finally gave in. I like it--the two leads have the same kind of ribbing banter that Scully and Mulder did back when the X-Files was good, and the cases are interesting. The supporting cast is okay, but the kid (named Zach--argh!) seems like an android who was just given an emotion chip last week.

Emily Deschannel > Zooey Deschannel
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 19, 2009, 02:27:29 PM
Ya honestly, the whole relationship subtext for ALL the characters is boring; even Dexter. But now I have more hope for the season since what happened will fuel Dexter's drive to MURDER even more.

I love it!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 19, 2009, 06:24:24 PM
Sanctuary. WTF! that is an amazing season opener. It did in 2 episodes (people with powers fighting each other) what Heroes in 4 years still hasn't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 20, 2009, 04:22:50 PM
bones is pretty good, i always don't watch many episodes and then suddenly catch it for their Halloween episode. The last one with Rider Strong was pretty good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 25, 2009, 06:07:11 AM
Bones is excellent. While both of the Deschannel sisters have their differences, I will have to agree that Emily is the "Better" one.

On the flip side, I just caught and episode or two of CSI Miami and holy god, it's awful. It's so bad that they have this "surface computing" thingy ma bob that you can place evidence on and it will tell you everything about it and it has a user interface designed by Michale Bay/Ricers. Every episode I have seen of this trash has at least one team member being assaulted/threaten/shot at with more explosive use than Mythbusters.

1/10

It gets a one instead of zero because seeing sunglasses off/on/off/on is a little funny. Maybe it will make a good drinking game...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 02, 2009, 03:25:45 PM
V: The Original Series & V: The final battle 7/10
was a pretty good concept, but was clearly showing its age, some of it just seemed to drag on. I bet it was the bomb when it was new, some great action sequences especially at the beginning. Thank you Scifi channel, because I didn't have to netflix it.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 02, 2009, 03:47:19 PM
Newest episodes of Dexter: Ooh. It's gettin' good now. The 3rd Rock dude is AWESOME.

Finished up season 1 of Bones: I'm totally hooked now. Agent Booth could totally be Nathan Drake in an Uncharted movie. I liked how you get little touches of emotion from Brennan throughout the season. My wife likes Angela the most. I really like their boss--he needs more screen time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on November 04, 2009, 12:02:40 AM
V: The Original Series & V: The final battle 7/10
was a pretty good concept, but was clearly showing its age, some of it just seemed to drag on. I bet it was the bomb when it was new, some great action sequences especially at the beginning. Thank you Scifi channel, because I didn't have to netflix it.



I just finished watching the first episode of the new series on ABC just now. It is an interesting show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2009, 12:07:18 AM
V (on ABC Tues. @ 8pm)

This show has got my attention. I have no idea if it's based off the same source material as teh miniseries V on the SyFy channel, but so far I like what I see. Basically Alien motherships show up above every major metrolpolis in the world and make contact. The aliens refered to as Visitors or V's for short appear to be there to make friends, heal and share technology with the humans. Some are skeptical of their intentions.  At first it reminded me a little bit of the 4400 and that is a good thing, but it quickly shed most of that comparison as the story started to progress and the plot line of the series started to take shape.  This could be my favorite new show of the season, I suggest you check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2009, 01:40:08 AM
newer V looked pretty good, definately taking the good plotline of the original series and using better storytelling and directing tools
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 04, 2009, 08:39:30 AM
This show (original) was on SyFy all day for the past few days. I watched like 5 minutes, then the horrible acting made me kill myself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2009, 10:06:10 AM
Yeah, I figured it might have been, but i didn't watch it for more than 2 minutes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2009, 03:23:18 PM
lol, its hard to take the Beast Master Marc Singer in V(os) seriously...he's the main character but he sounds like one of the Ambiguously Gay Duo
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2009, 03:33:04 PM
I was about to tell you you had the wrong guy, but then realized that you meant the old mini series V and not the new primetime V which has the guy from The 4400 (who through a vaseline lens might look like beast master).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2009, 04:53:35 PM
yeah, the new priest dude sort of looks like the old main character dude. For a second I thought a Ken Foree was move being played. Then I heard him talk, and definately not Marc Singer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2009, 01:38:26 AM
The Supernatural (The CW Thursdays @ 9pm)

I watched this show 2 weeks in a row and I think I have to watch it till the end now. Both episodes were so good, but tonites episode was 1 LOL after another. Tonites episode they had to deal with a "trickster" and he stuffed them into TV Land where they end up in parodies of very familiar shows on TV.

Here is an example of one segment of the show I didn't catch the first time around. Funny enough that I unknowingly got up and went into the kitchen when this segment started.... just watch it and you'll know why.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmypAnX4fEY

This show has made a viewer out of me. I have to go and netflix this from the beginning now.

Here is another winning moment from last nights episode:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K4yioL2ngI
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 06, 2009, 02:55:05 PM
lol, its hard to take the Beast Master Marc Singer in V(os) seriously...he's the main character but he sounds like one of the Ambiguously Gay Duo
Little known fact (probably widely known) - Steve Carell and Stephen Colbert voiced the Ambiguously Gay Duo.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2009, 05:45:07 PM
The best TV series of the ’00s (http://www.avclub.com/articles/the-best-tv-series-of-the-00s,35256/1/)

Does everyone agree with this list? It's a Top 30 TV series since late 1999 (the 2000's)
I haven't seen all the shows listed, but I would like to think that some of the ones I have seen would be a little bit higher up (The Shield, Dexter).
Are there any shows you all think should be on there and aren't?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 12, 2009, 06:27:59 PM
ROFL Wondershowzen!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 12, 2009, 07:18:53 PM
Battlestar abandoned the Ship of Quality after the second season. After that, it just stopped making sense. It shouldn't be on that list. I think it's there as the token sci-fi show.

Arrested Development FTW!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2009, 08:57:49 PM
I'm wondering why House M.D. isn't on the list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 12, 2009, 10:09:37 PM
this season of survivor is GREAt! :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 13, 2009, 12:00:45 AM
Battlestar abandoned the Ship of Quality after the second season. After that, it just stopped making sense. It shouldn't be on that list. I think it's there as the token sci-fi show.

Arrested Development FTW!

What didn't make sense apart from space robots writing All Along the Watchtower thousands of years ago? And since Firefly's on the list BSG can't be the token sci-fi show.


I was about to go off on the fact that The West Wing wasn't on there, but then it showed up at number 30 so the list is fine by me unless they're in order, and then I'm fighting for higher positions for a few things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2009, 12:15:56 AM
You watch Tim & Eric Awesome show? is it actually funny?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 13, 2009, 12:20:57 AM
No, I probably haven't seen half the shows on the list, but all the shows in the last decade I liked (except the one everyone but me hates) are on the list.


WAIT A MINUTE! I just realized Jericho's not on the list, which changes things slightly. Now instead of more or less agreeing with the list, I would vigorously argue for those who compiled it to be savagely beaten.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2009, 03:54:12 AM
Smallville Season 9

Best season since.... since.... well best season in a long freaking time.
last season started off good, but then the budget took a major hit and it really affected the show.
This season has been good ep after good ep especially the last few back to back.

For all those Smallville fans that abandoned the show, now is the time to get caught up and back into it again. Progress has been made and the plot holes and loose-ends are being explained and tied up.
The episode tonite had the Wonder Twins and it was done really really well. I was expecting something so bad it was funny, but this show has just been pure enjoyment like the 1st few season.
Clark might still not know how to fly but you really can think of this season as Superman: Year One (training wheels)

Season 9 (so far) - 9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on November 17, 2009, 04:06:32 PM
Any Monk fans? It's 3 episodes out from the finale and there's been not one Trudy clue-hunting episode. The writers clocked out way ahead of the show's ending and it's a shame. 4/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 04:53:16 PM
Monk has been on auto pilot for 3 season now. I'm riding it out just to see how it ends.
It could get better and end on a good note, but I'm honestly just glad the the show is going to get a proper ending and wrap up the story and not continue to drag on like some shows tend to do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 17, 2009, 04:58:48 PM
Smallville Season 9

Best season since.... since.... well best season in a long freaking time.
last season started off good, but then the budget took a major hit and it really affected the show.
This season has been good ep after good ep especially the last few back to back.

For all those Smallville fans that abandoned the show, now is the time to get caught up and back into it again. Progress has been made and the plot holes and loose-ends are being explained and tied up.
The episode tonite had the Wonder Twins and it was done really really well. I was expecting something so bad it was funny, but this show has just been pure enjoyment like the 1st few season.
Clark might still not know how to fly but you really can think of this season as Superman: Year One (training wheels)

Season 9 (so far) - 9/10

I couldn't agree more, I've been loving Season 9. Season 8 showed promise but was kind of bumpy, probably because the creators of the show left and the news guys were adjusting, but now it looks like the creators leaving was the best thing that could have happened to the show. The writing is quite tight this season and it looks like it has a bit more budget to work with. Got to love the end of the Wonder Twin episode too! I had a huge smile on my face, it was so out of no where.

If you asked me 2 years ago about what I thought of Smallville I would have said one more season, maybe to tie things up but it was dropping it quality fast. Now I want to see a season 10! Especially since there is a chance this may be Supernatural's last season since the creator only wanted to do 4 seasons and this is the end of his 4 year arch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 05:55:26 PM
I just started tuning into Supernatural. I really want to start from the beginning now.
I'm glad that the creator had an original vision for the show and is sticking to it.
Tell your story and get out, no filler, no dead end stories, no staying past your welcome.
More shows need to follow that lead, the shows that have a story arch that leads to an eventual story conclusion that is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 17, 2009, 05:58:52 PM
I just started tuning into Supernatural. I really want to start from the beginning now.
I'm glad that the creator had an original vision for the show and is sticking to it.
Tell your story and get out, no filler, no dead end stories, no staying past your welcome.
More shows need to follow that lead, the shows that have a story arch that leads to an eventual story conclusion that is.

Yeah,Smallville was falling into that trap big time, most shows never pull out of a downward spiral like Smallville was on but it seems to be doing it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 06:16:35 PM
Smallville still has a story to tell and they are just now getting around to telling it again.
They fell off track somewhere in s4 with the whole Lana witch thing and just got back on again last season (ironically after Lex left the show).

Now Smallville has a 2 parter story arch that is getting turned into a mini-movie event. A budget increase is happening and new talent is coming to the show(Pam Grier aka Foxy Brown). If the rating keep up, a 10th an final season is a shoe in(then they can change the name of the show to Metropolis ;) )
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 17, 2009, 06:37:24 PM
I really like the addition of Oliver/Green Arrow. And there are some rumblings that Rosembaum may return, which I think is fine if done correctly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 06:45:58 PM
I'm hoping Lex comes back. I like that they play it like he may still be pulling strings from some unknown location since that always leave them a way to bring him back. It allows allows him to not know that Clark and Superman are the same person since I think it's inevitable that Tess will be dead before the dust settles.

But Green Arrow isn't the only one to be back this season. The mini-movie should really set thing in motion next year when the show comes back from it's break since I think it's being written by the comicbook writer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 17, 2009, 06:48:22 PM
Zod is an interesting villain, he is actually a pretty complex villain and in some ways you understand his ambition.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2009, 07:04:03 PM
I'm actually more interested in what they are gonna do with Chloe, but they seem to be handling the Zod story line fine so far, so I'll just wait to see where it goes and how it develops.

I've never read a Superman comic and have only seen the movies, TAS & JLA/U so I'm real interested in how everything plays out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 17, 2009, 07:13:20 PM
Top Model - I stopped caring a loooong time ago this season, but this episode had Marissa Miller, which made me stand at attention.

Why can't Top Model accept more girls who look like THAT?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 17, 2009, 10:15:39 PM
V brings new meaning to the word A.L.F

that mother daughter aliens they are total alfs
Alfs in v are like milfs except aliens
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2009, 04:10:38 AM
HOLY **** 10/10 EPISODE OF DEXTER

During this episode I was completely relaxed wondering when **** was gonna hit the fan. Right after the Thanksgiving dinner scene I was no longer laying down but sitting on the edge of the couch for the rest of the episode. I had several theories as to how things were gonna play out and they were all wrong yet all right at the same time. I can't wait to watch the rest of the season to see how all this drama continues to unfold. Some blood is about to be shed but I'm still not sure all of who's it's gonna be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 23, 2009, 01:13:39 PM
Californication: Meh. This season is so unfocused it's just not fun to watch. None of the characters are really likable this season. I'm so sick of Hank's daughter, and I can't understand how Hank is rich enough that he doesn't have to write...or have a job...or support a family. It annoys me.

Monk: Finally, they're getting somewhere. By which I mean, next week they'll start getting somewhere.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 25, 2009, 12:13:21 AM
V brings new meaning to the word A.L.F

that mother daughter aliens they are total alfs
Alfs in v are like milfs except aliens


I couldn't agree more.
There are few women that I think can pull of the short hair look (Ms. Berry) and Momma ALF doin just fine.
Momma ALF is seriously hotter than Daughter ALF. So many great close-ups of Mommas face today and zoom outs of full body shots with the power suit/skirt and those heels. It's startin to get hot in here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 25, 2009, 11:25:33 PM
speaking of V, i just saw episode 4..the last shot reminds me of a picture i rendered in 3d class

http://www.tetrametrics.com/theperm/Renders/drog.jpg
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/v.jpg

obviously, theirs looks better, but its funny when you see the similarity. I also didnt try to model the best ships or put the best shaders on the planets, i was messing around with particle generators and reflections. That frame took about 5 hours to render :o.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2009, 10:21:11 PM
LOL, I just started watching Avatar: TLAB Book 2 episode 2 (Love Cave or something like that)and damn is this cartoon funny.

sister says to brother, "Why is your forehead all red"
[close up of red spot on brother's forehead]

wandering nomad walks up and says
"Don't freak out when I tell you this, but I think that guy over there is the Avatar"

Brother: [FACEPALM.....again]


Stogi, thanks for recommending this otherwise I never would have gotten around to watching it. It's pretty mature for something that was shown on Nickelodeon, has plenty of action, it's well choreographed and has plenty of humor.

Starting to make me more interested in the live action movie that coming up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 04, 2009, 10:43:30 PM
Dexter: See, I thought this was the 2nd-to-last episode, but it's not. There are two left. Having said that, this has been a slow season overall, with the real knockout moments spread unevenly throughout. These last two episodes will probably be off the chain, though.

Scrubs: Med School: Interesting direction for the show. I don't like the main girl, but maybe she'll grow on me. It's pretty obvious that Bill Lawrence isn't heading up this new season, and his light touch is missed. And WHO is that beautiful Australian doctor? Hubba hubba!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2009, 07:01:33 AM
30 Rock - Must See TV indeed

Goto Hulu and watch the latest episode. It is hilarious.
From Liz to Tracy and even Frank, all brought the laughs this week.
I have never laughed so hard at a single episode of this show before.

Liz: "This is how I cry now thanks to that generic eye surgery you made me get"
The HD Camera
Frank in Liz mode

Tracy & Wife:
"Really? Have you lost your mind? I'm not gonna raise another child by myself."
"What are you implying? I'm a very attentive father."
"Oh please, Tracy. Where were you last week during Tracy Jr's birthday party?"
"There was a better kid's birthday party up the street!"


& a special appearance from Whoopi, this episode was on point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2009, 02:17:46 PM
LOL, I just started watching Avatar: TLAB Book 2 episode 2 (Love Cave or something like that)and damn is this cartoon funny.

sister says to brother, "Why is your forehead all red"
[close up of red spot on brother's forehead]

wandering nomad walks up and says
"Don't freak out when I tell you this, but I think that guy over there is the Avatar"

Brother: [FACEPALM.....again]


Stogi, thanks for recommending this otherwise I never would have gotten around to watching it. It's pretty mature for something that was shown on Nickelodeon, has plenty of action, it's well choreographed and has plenty of humor.

Starting to make me more interested in the live action movie that coming up.

Glad to hear you like the show, as Season 2 is the best of the series (though the series has one hell of a finale at the end of Season 3).  I always make a point to tell people about Avatar whenever I hear someone mention how American animation just isn't what it used to be.

Actually, if you like Avatar you might want to give Star Wars: The Clone Wars (the CG series) a try.  Many of the staff of Avatar moved over to The Clone Wars when Avatar finished, and it shows in the action scenes.  The show itself is very well-written and is (in my opinion) more Star Wars-y than the entire prequel trilogy.

As for me, the last show I watched was the now-canceled Dollhouse.  5/10.  Lousy show that took a rather limited (for television) premise and went absolutely nowhere interesting with it until now...when it's been canceled.  Some good actors and some decent writing, but just not good enough of either.

Battlestar abandoned the Ship of Quality after the second season. After that, itjust stopped making sense. It shouldn't be on that list. I think it'sthere as the token sci-fi show.

Nice to see someone agrees with me on Battlestar.  The first 2 seasons were phenomenal, but after that it gets bogged down in religion, whining, and pretentiousness (two things that often go hand-in-hand).  The series was so much better when it was just Humans vs. Cylon for the Future of Humanity (TM).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2009, 02:40:46 PM
I've been watching Clone Wars since the beginning (might have even mentioned somewhere in the thread) and I'm not really a Star Wars fan at all. It a good cartoon and better than most of the movies and that clone wars miniseries that came before it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 06, 2009, 06:19:29 PM
Stargate Universe - It took a LONG time but i feel like something is finally coming together now. I'm still loving the actors and visual style (and the crew for making it!) more than the actual writing though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 07, 2009, 03:42:58 AM
LOL, I just started watching Avatar: TLAB Book 2 episode 2 (Love Cave or something like that)and damn is this cartoon funny.

sister says to brother, "Why is your forehead all red"
[close up of red spot on brother's forehead]

wandering nomad walks up and says
"Don't freak out when I tell you this, but I think that guy over there is the Avatar"

Brother: [FACEPALM.....again]


Stogi, thanks for recommending this otherwise I never would have gotten around to watching it. It's pretty mature for something that was shown on Nickelodeon, has plenty of action, it's well choreographed and has plenty of humor.

Starting to make me more interested in the live action movie that coming up.

:) I'm glad you're enjoying it. It's really is a great series and if your enjoying it as much as you are now, you'll probably agree with my rating once you finish it.

Season 2 is probably the funniest season because of Toph. But there's one episode that comes to mind in season 3 that had me in tears.

But yeah, enjoy the ride!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 07, 2009, 03:49:23 AM
Season 2 is probably the funniest season because of Toph. But there's one episode that comes to mind in season 3 that had me in tears.

But yeah, enjoy the ride!

I'm sure if you look up "awesome" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of Toph there.  She's my favorite character in Avatar, and she kicks ass.  She's the only character in the entire show who even by the end of the show could still kick Aang's ass, and she's absolutely hilarious (and often self-depricating).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 07, 2009, 05:31:58 PM
Final episodes of Monk: Both episodes felt slapped together. The bad guy didn't have six fingers, all of sudden there's a present Monk never opened for 12 years (where has it been during the past seven seasons?), there's suddenly an unsolved case involving some nurse at a hospital...it was all very lazily written.

However, I thought it was nice that Monk has a new "Trudy" now, and the final song was touching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2009, 05:43:14 PM
I was very disappointed that they didn't plan out the ending and plant little easter eggs through out the seasons leading up to things that would all get wrapped up in the final episode.

Like maybe one day Natalie is cleaning in Monk's den and goes to move that little present and Monk gets all protective over it, or Monk passing by that Mid-Wife clinic with Sharona and mentioning something about it, or having visited the Judges house with the captain in some past season and mention how weird it is to put a sundial in the shade. Then flash back to all those little things that they included over the years as Monk starts to put it all together.

That would have been a little more satisfying than the build up to the finale that they had. Because it really did seem like they just came up with it and haven't been leading us up to any big reveal like you would expect out of a detective show where he has been "actively" trying to find the killer of his wife since the very first episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 07, 2009, 07:14:06 PM
Yeah, he was only actively looking for his Trudy's killer for the first two seasons. After Sharona left, I suspect many of the writers did too, and all of a sudden Monk is going camping and gets attacked by a bear.

Sheesh. You get the feeling that the people who wrote the final episode didn't bother to watch the previous seasons of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2009, 12:32:00 AM
Dexter - 2nd to last episode of the season and the build up was great.

Hello, Dexter Morgan.

I can't wait to see the season finale on Sunday.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 11, 2009, 12:01:35 AM
Yeah Dexter's getting good (finally!)

Always Sunny is still cracking my **** up. Their season finale was amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2009, 03:01:09 PM
Season 2 is probably the funniest season because of Toph. But there's one episode that comes to mind in season 3 that had me in tears.

But yeah, enjoy the ride!

I'm sure if you look up "awesome" in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of Toph there.  She's my favorite character in Avatar, and she kicks ass.  She's the only character in the entire show who even by the end of the show could still kick Aang's ass, and she's absolutely hilarious (and often self-depricating).

I just finished disc 2 of book 2 and that Toph chick is cold blooded. LOL.
She would not let up on Aang or that Water Tribe chick and I didn't want her too, although I did feel a little bad for Aang at first. Sucks that I didn't have disc 3 waiting for me though because of how the last episode ended (Knowledge temple).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 12, 2009, 04:06:12 PM
That's where it ended?!

That's a shame. The next episode is probably my favorite of the whole season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 12, 2009, 09:04:08 PM
*looks at his Avatar Book 2 episode listings*

Ouch, yeah that's a nasty place to be left hanging.  Still, you have some really outstanding episodes ahead of you once Discs 3 and 4 arrive from Netflix (which is what I assume you're using)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2009, 09:07:42 PM
Netflix all day everyday.

Netflix has become a necessity in my daily/weekly routine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 14, 2009, 01:20:09 PM
Dexter season 5

I don't know if I can watch this show. I've been there since the beginning but it's becoming kinda trite with the finale finally making me realize this.

I'll make my assessment to continue watching based on the first episode of next season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2009, 01:36:15 PM
I haven't watched the last  ep of 4 yet, but I'm guessing they didn't end the story like most hoped it would end huh?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 14, 2009, 04:09:45 PM
THANK GOD they ended Dexter that way. I was SO TIRED of that aspect of the show. Trinity did our boy a favor, no doubt. Good ending to a good season overall, though it really dragged on in places.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 15, 2009, 12:06:46 PM
I fucked up here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2009, 12:52:23 PM
Holy Mountain, wasn't that the 70's movie with several different stories and one of them was the big ass sex machine?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 15, 2009, 09:58:44 PM
The Holy Mountain - 10/10
Fucking epic movie. You'll think it's all nonsense if you can't follow along, but the end makes everything else make sense. Also, if you know anything about tarot cards it helps, I guess. Watch it, then thank me. Lots of nudity, male and female, and some pretty disturbing scenes, so watch it only with people that can handle **** like that (or watch alone).

lol, alone. I think i learned a while back to just watch things alone if you want to really enjoy things. Very few people will watch anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 15, 2009, 11:47:43 PM
****, that was supposed to be in the "last movie you watched" thread. My bad...reposting it there. Last show I watched was the Office (actually Monday Night Raw)...it was great.

Edit - and yes, BNM, that is the movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 21, 2009, 08:42:35 PM
I finally caught up on Dexter

Holy ****!/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on December 22, 2009, 03:08:48 PM
Lost Season 5. LIKE A BOSS/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 22, 2009, 06:08:37 PM
Christmas with the Cranks: Geezus H. Christ/10

My wife rented it. It wasn't as bad as I thought it would be, but it was still pretty terrible. The one happy moment came when I found out that Jamie Lee Curtis still has a pretty kickin' bod for being in her 50's. Not quite as incredible as she looked in True Lies, but she's aged well, let's put it that way.

Otherwise, the film was a complete travesty.
 
EDIT: Oh, this is the TV thread. *sigh*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 22, 2009, 06:19:35 PM
Paradox. The show can be best described as "Flashforward meets 24". Better still, its only 5 episodes.

The last episode really was crazy. I'm not sure what to make of it yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2009, 07:03:53 PM
I just finished the 1st disc of Book 3 of Avatar: TLAB and I almost thought this show had lost most of what made it enjoyable. All of a sudden everything was all serious and and I was starting to lose interest. Then the Cave/bandana & Saka & the Sword Master episodes happened and everything was right in the world of Avatar again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 24, 2009, 09:09:16 PM
I just finished the 1st disc of Book 3 of Avatar: TLAB and I almost thought this show had lost most of what made it enjoyable. All of a sudden everything was all serious and and I was starting to lose interest. Then the Cave/bandana & Saka & the Sword Master episodes happened and everything was right in the world of Avatar again.

Well, first off this is the show's final season.  It has to get increasingly serious as the show builds up to its incredible finale, or it just doesn't work.  That said, I found Book 3 to be a strange beast.  Up until the halfway point of the season (Day of Black Sun - Parts 1 and 2), it literally follows a pattern of every other episode being mediocre-to-poor.  Thankfully, after Day of Black Sun, the show hits a consistent note and rides it all the way to the finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 24, 2009, 09:21:45 PM
I understand that it's the finale season, it's just that in the 1st two episodes were slow and lacking of charm from the usual suspects which made think they had lost something inbetween the end of s2 and beginning s3. But it recovered nicely after that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 27, 2009, 02:43:07 AM
Ok, I have a bit of an oldie for you guys.  I just started really watching it for the first time since I caught random episodes of it on TV over a decade ago:

Zorro - 9/10 - This is the old Disney show from circa 1957, recently released on DVD via Disney's Limited Edition Walt Disney Treasures line.  I got both seasons of the show (39 episodes a season, mind you) and am currently working my way through the first season, and so far I love this show.  Unlike most of the Disney TV shows from back in Walt Disney's day, this show doesn't come across as corny and lame and I can easily marathon it.  I admit I'm biased with this show: this show has faults, but it does so much well that they don't bother me.  This show just has amazing production values for its time, reasonably good writing and acting, a great sense of pacing, and an incredibly catchy theme song.  The half hours just fly by, and to add even more value this show is actually pretty heavily serialized with distinct story arcs.  Only 30,000 copies of both seasons were put out there and they are a little pricey, but this show comes highly recommended.  It's over 50 years old now, but it can easily hold its own.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 28, 2009, 02:59:04 PM
Haven't watched it yet, but the first disk of Darkwing Duck came in the mail today. EXCITED!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kraken613 on December 28, 2009, 06:23:07 PM
NCIS Season 1- 9/10

This show is by far one of my favorites. It's just interesting! I've watched random episodes for along time but never watched it all the way through. I am going through all the old seasons on Netflix. Season 1 was great and established everything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2009, 06:56:56 PM
I haven't really watched the 1st couple of seasons(I have caught random episodes though), but the 1st 2 seasons with Corte De Pablo (Ziva) is what got me watching the show. Tony Denozo was the real hook, but something about Ziva kept me watching.
I think I've seen pretty much every episode from s4 and up.

spoiler almost spoiled it for me at least, NCIS is a JAG spinoff
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kraken613 on December 28, 2009, 08:09:09 PM
Yeah, Ziva comes on Season 3 I think. Because you have Kate Todd (Sasha Alexander) in the first 2 seasons of the show. Denozo is great especially how he acts with Gibbs! Gotta love it!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on December 28, 2009, 08:37:30 PM
I'm really late to the game on this one, but I've really been enjoying Arrested Development...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2009, 08:46:43 PM
what season are you in?
I just re-watched the entire series with my girl a few months back and now we both look forward to watching the movie that should eventually come out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on December 28, 2009, 08:59:37 PM
Watched a few odd episodes from who knows when on IFC.  They recently started the series over and I've just gotten into season 1.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on December 29, 2009, 09:41:40 PM
Stop watching after season 1.  You'll thank me later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 30, 2009, 03:58:58 AM
^Don't listen to him.

watch and enjoy every episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 01, 2010, 04:51:38 AM
Zorro - Season 2 - 7.5/10 - Ye Gods, what happened here?  It's ironic, but the strength of season 1 was that despite it having 2-3 distinct 13 arc storylines (the last 2 arcs are really one big 26-episode arc with a big subplot), the show was very tightly scripted and flowed well.  Season 2 drops the whole idea of set story arcs and just plays everything by ear with 1-4 episode stories of random interest, often having Zorro appear in an episode for no logical reason.  It often felt like half the episodes this season were about Zorro playing match-maker or match-breaker, and I'm sorry but I don't want my romantic cavalier swashbuckler wasting his time playing Cupid (I know that's ironic, but I'd rather have him taking down thieves and corrupt politicians).  Don Diego is more than capable of doing that.  What's worse, though, is that...she...appears in a 3-episode arc.  I am, of course, referring to that shrill harpy of the Disney family known as Annette Funnicello.  Now, maybe this is a skill she acquired later in life but the poor girl is just an abysmal actress in these episodes.  She shows up in one of the rare Season 3 episodes as well to stink up another 48 minutes of quality Zorro action.  Still a good season, and even the "Mountain Man" episodes (by far the lowest point of the season) are at worst average.

Zorro - "Season 3" - 8.5/10 - Well that's more like it.  Even though this final "season" of the show only consists of 4 hour-long episodes (which are really 8 half-hour episodes spliced together), 3/4 are excellent and classic Zorro action with opponents and situations worthy of the vigilante.  Even that last 1/4 is only bad when...she...is on-screen.  The stories flow well, the action is excellent, and the series goes out on a high note.  It even features Ricardo Montebahn in a rather suitable role foreshadowing his most famous one not too many years later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 02, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
speaking of old shows..remember FX?..no i don't mean their modern incarnation, i mean their original incarnation, which was sort of like TV land, but they picked shows like fantasy island, and a couple of other good old shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 03, 2010, 07:28:07 AM
I just finished the 1st disc of Book 3 of Avatar: TLAB and I almost thought this show had lost most of what made it enjoyable. All of a sudden everything was all serious and and I was starting to lose interest. Then the Cave/bandana & Saka & the Sword Master episodes happened and everything was right in the world of Avatar again.

I love the bandana episode! Aang is such a little pimp. And don't let the "seriousness" get you down. For one, the finale is definitely worth it and two, the season still has its usual goofy episodes. In fact, there's one episode in particular that had me in tears (did I already say that?).

Anyway, how did you like season two? My favorite episode is "The Desert." That's the episode where Aang is furious that someone stole his bison all the while Soka and Momo are tripping balls off of peyote. How that episode could be so light hearted, yet serious is why I like Avatar in the first place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 03, 2010, 10:34:50 AM
The Peyote episode was great. Saka and Momo had me rolling. I really hope M. Night captures all of this in the live action movie because this show is a little like that show Chuck, in that it has a little bit of everything all rolled into one great little package.

I've moved the rest of Avatar to the top of my queue, and the only thing that will interrupt me finishing s3 are New Releases. Depending on whats coming out on Tuesday, I should finish the series this week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 05, 2010, 03:39:14 PM
Doctor Who: The End of Time. GOODBYE DAVID TENNANT.

His final line pretty much summed up how i felt at the end of it: I don't want to go!

Matt Smith has massive boots to fill.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 05, 2010, 05:11:53 PM
Finished Season 3 of Bones a long time ago (Zach did it? Com'on.), and have started Season 4. Love this show. Love it SO MUCH.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on January 06, 2010, 03:28:55 PM
The Goode Family - If you think of animated sitcoms as mathematical equations, then you get the formula animation + Situation * Comedy = show.  From here, the best way to describe "The Goode Family" is the inverse King of the Hill in both the situation and the comedy.  The show is still animated.
3/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 06, 2010, 06:37:18 PM
Better Off Ted

You all need to watch this show. It is HILARIOUS, nerdy, and corporate-based.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 06, 2010, 06:46:27 PM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Grievous Intrigue/The Deserter (two episodes aired back-to-back) - 9.5/10 - This show just continues to get better, especially in Season 2 where it's really begun to shine.  The stories are well-written and acted, the action's well-staged and exciting, and the visuals are very nice (as usual).  One of the elements I was happy to see return came up in the 2nd episode: the continuing evolution of the clones as characters with identity and morality beyond the biological automaton pawns depicted in the prequel movies.  It's a shame that this show continues to air under the cloud of both being a product of the Star Wars prequels and a TV CG series, because this show is a worthy successor to Avatar: the Last Airbender.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2010, 03:45:33 PM
Avatar: The Last Air Bender - Book 3

What an incredible show. Have you ever been watching something so hard that you find yourself trying to watch harder, eyes wide open and you leaning forward as if to enter the TV because you are so into what you are watching? that was me during the final episode of this series. 10/10

Avatar: The Last Air Bender (The Entire Series)10/10

I couldn't recommend this more. The entire series was just great. You develop a connection with each and every character and everything is handled so well with a mix of everything and something for everyone. I feel that it could have been a little deeper, but you have to remember that this was a cartoon produced for Nickelodeon and is by far the most mature thing that has ever aired on the network. I really wish there was more as I would like to know what is next for Team Avatar, so now I really look forward to the live action movie, but it has a lot to live up to.
There is no way that they can capture this series in a 2 hour movie and make you feel as invested in the story and characters like I feel I am right now.

One thing though: I really wish that Katara and Toph and taught Aang how to blood bend and metal bend, or atleast have Katara blood bend Azula during the final fight. I would also like to know what happened to Azula after everything was said and done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 09, 2010, 05:47:34 PM
My big complaint about the ending of Book 3 is that they knew the series was ending, yet they brought up the issue of Zuko's mother in the final minutes of the show without resolution.  We're never going to find out what happened to her now.  With the exception of that and the little bit of Deus Ex Machina the show pulls with Aang during the fight with Ozai, the show pretty much ended perfectly.

As for the 3 Live Action movies, I have absolutely no expectations of quality for them.  In fact, I'm assuming already that they're going to be crap, because they're directed by (and I'm sure I'm going to butcher his name) that hack M. Night Schylalaman.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 09, 2010, 06:41:16 PM
I'm glad you liked it BnM! how did you like the Ember Island Players? That episode cracks my **** up; sokka and toph especially

And Katara couldn't have bloodbended because it wasn't a full moon. Also if Aang knew how to metal bend, then Toph wouldn't be as cool as she is.

Broodwars: I don't have high expectations for the movie, but it's not because of M. Night. He is actually a great director but his storytelling sucks! Big difference. Also there is enough sprinkled in the series to know what happened to Zuko's mother. She was exiled and now he is going to find her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 09, 2010, 07:09:10 PM
There needs to be one more episode, or maybe a new 2 hour(including commercial breaks) made for TV movie episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 09, 2010, 11:15:47 PM
Broodwars: I don't have high expectations for the movie, but it's not because of M. Night. He is actually a great director but his storytelling sucks!

That's the problem, though: as director, it is through his eyes that we see the movie.  Really, how long do you think we'll have to wait before we find out he's cast himself as Avatar Roku, or even Fire Lord Ozai (granted, the idea of seeing whatever kid they've cast as Aang beating the snot out of M. Night does hold some appeal)?  I just don't think he has the ego to distance himself from meddling with the storytelling.

As for the 2 hour TV movie idea, the problem with that idea (besides the fact that all the actors have aged considerably since the TV series aired, and puberty's a ***** when it comes to voice acting [just ask the English VA for Alphonse Elric in Fullmetal Alchemist]) is that the show already hit its peak with the finale.  No matter what they could do in the Epilogue movie, the only place to go from there is down.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 10, 2010, 01:32:18 PM
I'm glad to see that Avatar is getting so much love.  It really is a great show.  Hell, even my wife got into it after making fun of me for watching it. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_Lindy on January 10, 2010, 05:17:05 PM
Trailer Park Boys - 10/10.

I'm not sure if I've rated it before, but I'm rating it again.  I've been watching it ever since it went on the air up in Canada (one of my buddies up there hipped me to it).  One of the best mockumentary series ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 10, 2010, 09:15:30 PM
Trailer Park Boys - 10/10.

I'm not sure if I've rated it before, but I'm rating it again.  I've been watching it ever since it went on the air up in Canada (one of my buddies up there hipped me to it).  One of the best mockumentary series ever.

Bubbles is the best.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 10, 2010, 10:51:29 PM
Chuck (Seasons 1 & 2) - 8.75/10

I'm sure I've rated this at the beginning of the thread somewhere, but it just awesome enough to rate again(I'm possibly even rating it higher than before). Also the Season 3 premiere airs tonite and then goes back to it's regular time slot on Monday nites.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 11, 2010, 02:47:15 AM
Trailer Park Boys - 10/10.

I'm not sure if I've rated it before, but I'm rating it again.  I've been watching it ever since it went on the air up in Canada (one of my buddies up there hipped me to it).  One of the best mockumentary series ever.

When I first watched Trailer Park Boys I thought it was an American show (An easy mistake to make outside of NA I guess). But as time went on I realised for a show about trailer trash it was too clever/quirky to have been made by Americans. Upon realising it was Canadian just makes it even funnier.

Sure My Name is Earl is funny, but it isn't great like TPB.

GO CANADA
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 11, 2010, 05:42:17 AM
 Iron Man: Armored Adventures - First 5-6 episodes: 5/10.  Final 19-20 episodes of the first season: 8.5/10

Man, this is one very strange show.  I basically started watching it because I was a big fan of Spectacular Spider-man, and I was in the mood for a good Comics superhero show I hadn't seen before.  Besides, Iron Man looked decent enough in both the recent Animated and Live Action movies.  Nothing could have prepared me for this series, though: a cel-shaded (think the MTV Spider-man show, only cheaper-looking) series that turns Tony Stark into a 16-year old kid and basically reshapes the Iron Man concept into something like Spectacular Spider-man-meets-Johnny Quest (not in itself a bad combination, but it's just a complete 180 degrees from the core of the IM character).  This is a show you just have to stick it out for a handful of episodes, because the opening batch are average at best and do a poor job of selling the show's concept with annoying characters and "lame supervillain of the week" plotlines.  The animation also comes off poorly, mostly because the animators for some bizarre reason decided to set action scenes involving laser blasts and explosions...at high noon outdoors, where absolutely nothing in this series looks good.  The show also suffers from the same problem that the MTV Spider-man series had: the animation looks decent enough in the action scenes, but as soon as the costumes come off the characters move and act very robotically.

Then something miraculous happens around episodes 6-7: something snaps and suddenly the show gets dramatically better.  The animators finally show some sense and start staging battles in areas with decent lighting and solid action, the writing starts involving actual drama, characters stop being (as) obnoxious, and the show's concept starts showing the heart (franchise pun not intended) it needed to convince me this was a show worth following.  By the end of the first season, I'm definitely looking forward to season 2.  It's definitely not a fantastic show up there with Spectacular Spider-man, Beast Wars, the DC AU, or Avatar...but it's decent enough if given the chance to iron out the problems, much like I saw with The Batman (another show that started out as utter crap, but got increasingly better with each season until by the end there were episodes that could hang with the best of the DC AU).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on January 11, 2010, 09:40:17 AM
Modern Family - Why the **** hasn't Modern Family been mentioned more than once in this thread? It's a fucking tragedy that you guys either aren't watching it or don't like it. It comes at a great time when both 30 Rock and The Office are starting to get ****. The best new sitcom since Arrested Development, there I said it. 9/10.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: RABicle on January 11, 2010, 10:30:13 AM
The News:
Pretty good cos it was all about how the WA economy is teh strongest in Australia and that WA beat Victoria in the cricket. **** yeah! What a great day to be Western Australian (and not Victorian).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 11, 2010, 02:35:40 PM
I've been watching it Dasmos, and I love it. Very funny show, with a great cast and a goofy sense of humor. Also, Sofia Vergara is haaaaaawt.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on January 11, 2010, 07:56:19 PM
I've been watching it Dasmos, and I love it. Very funny show, with a great cast and a goofy sense of humor. Also, Sofia Vergara is haaaaaawt.

Yeah, you were the sole poster who mentioned it. Glad someone enjoys it. Also Sofia Vergara? Is that the columbian chick? If so, then yes, I agree 200%.

So basically it's summer here which means Australian TV channels finally show some decent shows that they feel would be too risky to try at any other time. This is besically the only time we ever see new comedies like Aressted Development, Scrubs, Always Sunny and stuff at a decent hour. So I have been watching Parks and Recreation, I'm told they're viewing the second season here at the moment, so I'm going to try and track down the first season even though I have heard mixed things. Anyway this show is definitely enjoyable, it's like The Office, but fresh. Also anything with Aziz Ansari is okay in my books. 8/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2010, 09:07:13 PM
I've seen pretty much every episode of Modern Family. It's alright, definitely one of the better comedies on TV but I'm not rushing home on a Wed. nite just to catch it, or even setting the DVR to catch it for me. It's entertaining, but is nothing like an Arrested Development, yet it is still a good show.
I don't really like the dad that is married to the blond chick. It's mostly his voice I don't like, but everything else about the show has been pretty entertaining.

edit:
Another show I've been watching is The Middle (aka Malcom in the Middle 2). It's co-starring the Janitor from Scrubs and that has also been a pretty good show which borrows heavily on the MitM family character and style minus a little bit of the goofing off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 12, 2010, 12:20:18 AM
Heroes (on NBC)

I haven't even finished the episode that just started 15minutes ago and I'm 100% convinced that this show is handled exactly the same way that Southpark said Family Guy was. Manatees in a tank with some labeled balls.

Who is writing the script for this show?
I only continue to watch it this far because I've already invested so much time into it, but I really think it more like Nascar Syndrome, I stick around waiting for the inevitable crash. This show is so bad..... what happened? It used to have such promise.
I really wish they would put this back on at 8pm against House and move chuck to 9pm instead so I can watch House and then Chuck.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 12, 2010, 04:06:56 AM
Is it just me, or is that Malcolm in the Middle kid EXACTLY the same age he was like eight years ago on "Malcolm in the Middle?" It's freaking creepy is what it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 12, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
I don't watch that show (do they even make new ones?) - but I've seen it on my TV and it looks like he went from 12 years old to 35 years old between seasons at one point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 13, 2010, 01:40:36 AM
about Conan O'brien....

if he doesn't get what he wants i'm boycotting NBC....i would already be boycotting NBC, but if i couldn't watch Conan then i would have no reason to ever watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2010, 01:43:21 AM
What about Chuck?

I hear Zachary Levi (Chuck) is on Conan tonite. How did that go?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 14, 2010, 08:28:57 PM
Doctor Who: The End of Time. GOODBYE DAVID TENNANT.

His final line pretty much summed up how i felt at the end of it: I don't want to go!

Matt Smith has massive boots to fill.

Certain people around here ought to like the Timothy Dalton action, too.  They should have switched those parts so Dalton would be the next Doctor, actually.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 14, 2010, 10:47:12 PM
Conan has been absolutely on fire all week with his monologues. NBC is making the biggest mistake in history, if they think their ratings suck now, wait until Conan is on Fox.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 14, 2010, 11:01:55 PM
I hope the Tonite Show bombs if Leno takes it back and then Leno is blacklisted from television in the process.

Leno needs to step up and retire from the talkshow. Then go get a hotrod car show that comes on midday/early afternoon and enjoy his real true passion. He could still do interviews when he does something similar to MTV Cribs and check out Celebrity cars inbetween car shows, custom car mods and restoration shops.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 15, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
For all those that have no idea what going on with the whole Tonite Show on NBC thing

In 2004 Jay Leno and NBC agreed to pass on The Tonite Show to Conan in 5 years just as Johnny Carson has passed it on to Jay Leno 17 years ago.

>>>>>>>>>>>fast forward to last year

Jay Leno passes the torch to Conan, but now decides he isn't ready to retire and would like The Tonite Show back. Jay pressures NBC into getting him a 10pm show so he wouldn't go to a different network and compete with Conan. 10pm show is a ratings disaster killing Conan's all important lead in which in turn lowers Conan's start up ratings. Not to mention that Jay was trying his hardest to book all the big guest before they could show up with Conan, and you can already see was going on here.

Now you can catch up with everything you missed right here:
http://gawker.tv/5448615/the-late-night-war-reaches-its-boiling-point-all-the-clips-you-missed (http://gawker.tv/5448615/the-late-night-war-reaches-its-boiling-point-all-the-clips-you-missed)

+2 respect for Jimmy Kimmel with his appearance on 10 @ 10 on the Jay Leno Show.

edit: Howard Stern also has a good outlook on what Jay was doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 15, 2010, 05:53:00 PM
Doctor Who: The End of Time. GOODBYE DAVID TENNANT.

His final line pretty much summed up how i felt at the end of it: I don't want to go!

Matt Smith has massive boots to fill.

Certain people around here ought to like the Timothy Dalton action, too.  They should have switched those parts so Dalton would be the next Doctor, actually.

Absolutely. But hey, its Matt Smith now. I don't mind him. I'm more excited that Steven Moffat is taking over as headwriter and executive producer because even though he wrote, at most, 2 episodes a year his ones were always the best ones by MILES. Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead are two of the greatest episodes science fiction has ever seen.

Lets make sure:TIMOTHY DALTON WAS IN DOCTOR WHO!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: D_Average on January 15, 2010, 09:56:02 PM
Big Bang Theory 1/5 - Predictable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 16, 2010, 12:34:13 AM
I tried that show for a few weeks but always came away underwhelmed. I know people think the girl is super hot, but I don't see the big deal. The tall geek is mean-spirited, too. I would argue that Better Off Ted is just as geeky but much funnier and more likable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 16, 2010, 12:58:51 AM
You know it's not that good when a hot girl isn't enough to sway Halbred.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on January 16, 2010, 10:21:39 AM
You know it's not that good when a hot girl isn't enough to sway Halbred.
LOL.  I was just thinking the same thing.  ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on January 16, 2010, 02:56:45 PM
I don't watch enough tv to warrant posting in this thread but last night I saw Human Giant for the first time...

0/10

Why? Because it was full of some random and hilarious **** that sounds like the kinda stuff me and my friends would think up when driving around aimlessly. Woulda been a 10/10 if it didn't make me feel like **** for not having my own show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 16, 2010, 04:10:40 PM
You know it's not that good when a hot girl isn't enough to sway Halbred.
LOL.  I was just thinking the same thing.  ;D

It's true! I just don't find her that attractive! Now, Sofia Vergara on Modern Family...hubba hubba!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: D_Average on January 16, 2010, 04:27:57 PM
Yeah.  She's not very hot at all.  Nothing to drool over certainly.  Just good enough.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 16, 2010, 06:10:51 PM
For all those that have no idea what going on with the whole Tonite Show on NBC thing

In 2004 Jay Leno and NBC agreed to pass on The Tonite Show to Conan in 5 years just as Johnny Carson has passed it on to Jay Leno 17 years ago.

>>>>>>>>>>>fast forward to last year

Jay Leno passes the torch to Conan, but now decides he isn't ready to retire and would like The Tonite Show back. Jay pressures NBC into getting him a 10pm show so he wouldn't go to a different network and compete with Conan. 10pm show is a ratings disaster killing Conan's all important lead in which in turn lowers Conan's start up ratings. Not to mention that Jay was trying his hardest to book all the big guest before they could show up with Conan, and you can already see was going on here.

Now you can catch up with everything you missed right here:
http://gawker.tv/5448615/the-late-night-war-reaches-its-boiling-point-all-the-clips-you-missed (http://gawker.tv/5448615/the-late-night-war-reaches-its-boiling-point-all-the-clips-you-missed)

+2 respect for Jimmy Kimmel with his appearance on 10 @ 10 on the Jay Leno Show.

edit: Howard Stern also has a good outlook on what Jay was doing.

also how many people watched Leno just because it was before Conan? Im betting some percentage of extra Leno ratings were people who just couldn't stay up! Leno and Bret Favre should have show together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2010, 06:31:12 PM
Lost Tapes (no The Animal Planet)

Oh My, how intense. This show had more suspense and horror than most of the horror movies I've been forcing myself to watch from Netflix over the last year or so. Supposedly real stories and supposedly real footage mixed in with their re-creation using actors, scientific and historical backgrounding have had me watching the last few episodes with a slightly elevated heart rate. Very unexpected.

just the 2 eps I've seen so far - 8/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: D_Average on January 18, 2010, 10:44:38 AM
Jersey Shore - 5/5
Mindless "we're the sh## " debauchery at its finest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 18, 2010, 12:37:10 PM
Doctor Who: The End of Time. GOODBYE DAVID TENNANT.

His final line pretty much summed up how i felt at the end of it: I don't want to go!

Matt Smith has massive boots to fill.

Certain people around here ought to like the Timothy Dalton action, too.  They should have switched those parts so Dalton would be the next Doctor, actually.

Absolutely. But hey, its Matt Smith now. I don't mind him. I'm more excited that Steven Moffat is taking over as headwriter and executive producer because even though he wrote, at most, 2 episodes a year his ones were always the best ones by MILES. Silence in the Library and Forest of the Dead are two of the greatest episodes science fiction has ever seen.

I'm not convinced.  Moffat's preference for the horror side of Who might get pretty old if stretched past more than two episodes a year.  On the other hand, if he can write a season without yet another way of bringing back the Cybermen or Daleks, more power to him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 18, 2010, 04:49:09 PM
Big Bang Theory 1/5 - Predictable.
I tried that show for a few weeks but always came away underwhelmed. I know people think the girl is super hot, but I don't see the big deal. The tall geek is mean-spirited, too. I would argue that Better Off Ted is just as geeky but much funnier and more likable.

I recommend "The IT Crowd".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 18, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
Big Bang Theory 1/5 - Predictable.
I tried that show for a few weeks but always came away underwhelmed. I know people think the girl is super hot, but I don't see the big deal. The tall geek is mean-spirited, too. I would argue that Better Off Ted is just as geeky but much funnier and more likable.

I recommend "The IT Crowd".

That reminds me, I put that on my Netflix Instant Queue because someone, probably in this very thread, mentioned it. I should watch it some time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 20, 2010, 06:52:19 AM
Lost (Seasons 1-5): *Dons Flame-retardant armor*  Well, I just finished Season 5 of Lost, the show that apparently everyone loves but me and for the life of me I can't understand why.  This show is one giant tease (to use a forum-friendly term) that in the end was obviously scripted by the writers throwing darts at a board and using an endless barrage of flashbacks, flash-forwards, and (to use a Funny Farm term) even in places seemingly flashing sideways to just drag the series on for as goddamn long as humanly possible.  For the first two seasons, at least half of every episode was spent covering the characters before they reached the island, as if that was something I ever cared about.  Then we finally seemed to gain something approaching momentum in season 3 only to see the show jump into one of the most ridiculous Deus Ex Machina plot points I've ever seen.  Once again, the dart board...

Writer A: "Ok, we need to find a way to explain all these freaky things on the island.  Ok, steady hand...*

*thwack*

Writer B: "BRILLIANT!  THE ENTIRE ISLAND IS A GIANT TIME MACHINE!  OF COURSE!

Then we spend the next two seasons repeating the oh-so-cute Pulp Fiction-style nonlinear storytelling, glacial pacing, predictable plot points, and unlikeable characters.  Joy.  It's especially fun knowing that at any moment one of the writers could just get bored and pull out the dartboard again.  The worst thing about it all, though, is that there is a genuinely interesting story hidden somewhere in here, one that would be infinitely more enjoyable if they just stopped trying to be cute with all the time-wasting flashbacks and whatnot and just told a straight-up story.  The episodes in themselves are perfectly enjoyable when taken as individual stories, but the moment you try to put them all together the show just falls apart.

Sadly, I've already wasted so many hours of my life on this series, yet ABC will probably have many more of them in a few weeks when Season 6 starts up...if only to watch and see how they can possibly resolve this train wreck without using the big "Reset the World!" button they've already hinted at a few times now.

3/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2010, 01:44:13 PM
"The worst thing about it all, though, is that there is a genuinely interesting story hidden somewhere in here"
"Sadly, I've already wasted so many hours of my life on this series, yet ABC will probably have many more of them in a few weeks when Season 6 starts up...if only to watch and see how they can possibly resolve this train wreck without using the big "Reset the World!" button they've already hinted at a few times now."

^Thats how I feel about it too.
Time invested + curiosity on how they actually wrap the whole story up and make it seem like they weren't just making it up as they go along = me sticking around till the very end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 20, 2010, 03:57:18 PM
Yeah. I feel like the show only started getting good during the last two seasons, when the island itself was the focus. Still, a LOT of stuff doesn't make sense. This last season has a LOT to answer for.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 22, 2010, 12:51:29 AM
"The worst thing about it all, though, is that there is a genuinely interesting story hidden somewhere in here"

It's an illusion. Like a mirage in a desert. What you're doing is the equivalent of drinking sea water because you are thirsty. Go watch a show that actually satisfy you and you won't go back to watching garbage. Go play some games or something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 22, 2010, 01:03:05 AM
lol the plotline of Lost is pretty easy to get
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2010, 05:41:11 PM
Spartacus: Blood and Sand (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHxn8mTpAJU) <--Trailer [NSFW]

It's basically 300 meets Gladiator and from what I'm told also Rome.
It's like the the moves of Brad Pitt in Troy in the arena of Gladiator with the action and style of 300. Slow motion action shots, highlighted blood on a muted brown tone look with glowing outline. It actually reminds me a lot of the look from High Voltages Gladiator A.D. and if this show becomes a hit of any kind, they should try to do some sort of cross promotion since visually they are very similar.

Did I mention lots of gratuitous sex, nudity and violence? It's also produced by Sam Raimi and has Lucy Lawless(Xena: Warrior Princess) in it? So far I'm pretty into it. 4/5 stars

It premiers tonite on Starz in you get that channel, but it's already up on Netflix (like everything that comes on Starz) if you want to check it out early:
Spartacus: Blood and Sand (http://www.netflix.com/WiPlayer?movieid=70119826&trkid=496682) <--Netflix Instant Watch

or you can check it out on Starz.com
Spartacus: Blood and Sand (http://www.starz.com/originals/spartacus/screeningroom/Pages/screeningRoom.aspx#/episode-101) <--Starz.com
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 22, 2010, 06:39:06 PM
Considering it. I used to be in love with Lucy Lawless, so I might check this out just for her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 22, 2010, 07:00:14 PM
The only thing I've ever seen Lucy Lawless in was Battlestar Galactica, but I really liked her in that, and I have Netflix, so maybe I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 22, 2010, 07:36:30 PM
Lucy Lawless has a sex scene.
It's not in the first episode, but I hear the first 3 eps have been leaked online.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 22, 2010, 09:45:07 PM
That would have been awesome 15 years ago. She has had a lot of work done, so she looks decent...but still. Meh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 23, 2010, 03:54:23 AM
My Sophomore English teacher in high school looked like Lucy Lawless' twin sister.  The resemblance was uncanny.

It's an illusion. Like a mirage in a desert. What you're doing is the equivalent of drinking sea water because you are thirsty. Go watch a show that actually satisfy you and you won't go back to watching garbage. Go play some games or something.

The thing is, aside from a couple animated series that are still in production and won't be out for a while (like Clone Wars, which seems to air at really random times; Wolverine & the X-Men; and Iron Man: Armored Adventures), there really isn't anything else on TV right now I'd otherwise be watching.  I stopped watching 24 after Season 5 (and I'm amazed I lasted that long with such a monumentally stupid show) and Heroes after 2 1/2 seasons (ditto).  Warehouse 13's second season won't be out until Summer, so that just basically leaves Caprica to fill in the gap.  Besides, I do want to see how Lost tries to wrap itself up, even (maybe especially) if it leads to a spectacular collapse of Battlestar Galactica proportions.

On a side note, I've started watching the 2006 Fantastic Four animated series.  I'm only a few episodes in so I'm not ready to pass judgment on it yet, but so far it's spectacularly average (and, unfortunately, dubbed in Canada so there are some very familiar voice actors on this show I recognize from past Gundam projects).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 23, 2010, 04:25:26 AM
Lost is awseome. Please modify your posts. That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 23, 2010, 05:11:09 AM
Last episode of Conan:

Awesome. The man is a class act.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2010, 06:27:06 AM
Brood, you're into Warehouse 13 and I've never watched that, but maybe you should check out Eureka. I think it comes on right after that (when they're both on the air) but you have some catching up to do before the new season starts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 23, 2010, 06:43:55 AM
Brood, you're into Warehouse 13 and I've never watched that, but maybe you should check out Eureka. I think it comes on right after that (when they're both on the air) but you have some catching up to do before the new season starts.

I've heard good things about Eureka, so I'll look into it.  Warehouse 13 is just goofy Sci-Fi fun, with a neat historical twist (like X-Files meets Indiana Jones National Treasure)...a bit of guilty pleasure, but with some stellar casting.

*looks up Eureka*

Hmm...sounds like Twin Peaks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 26, 2010, 01:14:41 PM
Yeah. I feel like the show only started getting good during the last two seasons, when the island itself was the focus. Still, a LOT of stuff doesn't make sense. This last season has a LOT to answer for.

Lost fell victim to (what i consider to be) the biggest problem concerning American TV: TOO MANY EPISODES! Look at how tight Doctor Who has been at 13 episodes a season (and even then that's quite long). Primeval's third (and final-for-now) season was 10. Paradox was only 6.

Inevitably writers may have a story plan but with too many episode orders to do there's just going to be junk to fill out empty episode spaces. That's why we got stuff explaining why Jack got his tattoos. This same problem usually falls across every show in which it has 15+ episodes. Stargate has this problem, Sanctuary will (now it's extended to 20), House has it, the CSI trilogy definitely has it, Heroes suffers badly from it and so on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2010, 02:01:19 PM
That's kinda why I like how USA is handling some of their shows, like Burn Notice, and Eureka (SyFy is owned by USA Network i think). Half Seasons. 13+ episodes split into 2 story arcs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 26, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
Battlestar Galactica did that, too. The second, third, and fourth seasons were each 20 episodes, but they split them in half. It was annoying, though, that it made a show that ran for 4 seasons go on for 6 years, and many would argue that the show still suffered from those problems.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2010, 05:14:30 PM
USA does it differently though.

1st half season runs it's arc and then takes a 3 month break, then it comes back for the second half of the season and runs it's second arc then takes a 3 month break before the new season starts and the cycle continues.

I kinda like it because you don't go without your favorite shows for too long and they also don't have to force in some filler episodes to flesh out the series longer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on January 26, 2010, 05:24:39 PM
Top Gear - 9/10

I think it's been discussed before, but I ignored that because I'm not a "car guy."  I caught an episode on accident about a month ago, and I'm hooked.  If Netflix has old episodes, I may be tempted to sign up.

My only complaint is that nothing I hear on the show will ever be of any practical use to me.  Also, apparently BBC America is a whole season behind in spite of claiming that last night's show was the premiere of the new season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2010, 05:33:32 PM
Top Gear: Series 10 is on Watch It Now & DVD

Top Gear: Series 11 & 12 are only on DVD

Top Gear: Series 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 13, 14 & Polar Special aren't out on DVD thru Netflix yet.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 26, 2010, 05:45:00 PM
USA does it differently though.

1st half season runs it's arc and then takes a 3 month break, then it comes back for the second half of the season and runs it's second arc then takes a 3 month break before the new season starts and the cycle continues.

I kinda like it because you don't go without your favorite shows for too long and they also don't have to force in some filler episodes to flesh out the series longer.

That was my problem with BSG, the breaks were too long. Season 3 ended with a massive cliffhanger (actually several different massive cliffhangers) and it was over a year until season 4 started.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2010, 06:03:02 PM
But that's where I think the difference is. There is never a long ass break in between since the show would run for about 6-10 episodes and then take a 2-3 month break then continue.  You are never without an episode for too long, and just when you start to wonder, "hey, I wonder when blah blah blah comes back", there is a commercial saying its coming back next week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: hartnsoul88 on January 26, 2010, 11:08:34 PM
My one would have to be Heroes and although the show started off well, it could never fill the shoes of shows such as Prison Break. As the seasons have gone on, I feel it has lost it's appeal somewhat. At the moment, I would give it 6/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 26, 2010, 11:11:45 PM
Heroes is horrible.
It lost it's appeal back at the middle of season two and then again at the beginning and end of season 3 and then again as soon as season 4 started.

But for some reason I still manage to catch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 27, 2010, 01:27:13 AM
Prison Break is a terrible series.

 I can understand the first season of the show, but later seasons has nothing to do with breaking out of prison. Hell the second season was mind numbingly asinine by having them break into a prison. If they left it at one season you wouldn't have this ridiculous situation where a bank robbery is a front on a threat to attack the president.

Top Gear UK isn't and will never be a practical show seeing that the vast majority of the population can't afford their recommendations. When was the last time they tested a out a Toyota without throwing it into the North Atlantic. I love the other half of the show unquestionably, where they engage in some real world test/race/construction. But the rest of the show is really not much more than Car Porn. I don't give a damn about the reviews.

I have caught an episode or two of Top Gear Australia, but I can't watch it for any meaningful length of time without wanting to throw rocks at my own TV. There can only be one Top Gear.

I would be careful about throwing House into the same category Plugabugz. Any long term story arcs were pretty losse to begin with. You can jump to almost an episode without worrying about the arc, but if you do follow the arc, you get rewarded with bonus content.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 27, 2010, 03:03:05 AM
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I have caught an episode or two of Top Gear Australia, but I can't watch it for any meaningful length of time without wanting to throw rocks at my own TV. There can only be one Top Gear.
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I hear you.  I watched the first 3 episodes.  Haven't looked at it since.  The first was rubbish, the second was a marked improvement, enough to make me watch a 3rd.  3rd went downhill from the start.  The hosts are idiots and they try to copy UK too much.  Just because they are top gear doesn't mean they have to copy (and ruin i might add) everything from UK. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2010, 03:19:33 AM
Human Target (Wed. 9pm FOX)(normally at 8pm Wed.)

I just saw this air after hearing about it for the last several weeks. I was the 3rd episode that I just watched that made me goto Hulu and catch up on the other 2 that I had missed previously.

Supposedly based on a comic book, but this show is the best new action show on TV. I'm sure this will replace 24 next year assuming that this is the last season of 24 and FOX doesn't cancel this. It's a little like Burn Notice in that every week they take a new client and try to help them in some sort of undercover way.

This show does a couple of things right and the fight scenes so far have been pretty damn good. It also stars Chi McBride playing a role only vaguely similar to his role on Pushing Daisies, the guy who is securing the clients, Jackie Earl Haley as the scary information guy and Mark Valley as the in the field action star.

I really wish this show always come on on Tuesdays. There is nothing to watch on Tuesdays.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 27, 2010, 08:27:29 AM
I would be careful about throwing House into the same category Plugabugz. Any long term story arcs were pretty losse to begin with. You can jump to almost an episode without worrying about the arc, but if you do follow the arc, you get rewarded with bonus content.


I'm sure though there are episodes (maybe one or two) that you feel that you can skip without being detrimental to the arc. The ep last week in particular falls into that box and the one before that showed from Wilson's perspective (even though it was very refreshing).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 30, 2010, 09:14:38 PM
A couple things I've been watching:

Fantastic Four (2006) - 5/10 - I've never much cared for the Fantastic Four, and this series didn't make me like them any more.  The plots are dull when they aren't cliched, and this series' Dr. Doom is laughably bad (I think Megatron in the original Transformers was more successful in his plans, as well as more threatening).  The animation is notably worse than both the series it replaced on Cartoon Network (Justice League Unlimited) and its chief competitor on Nickelodeon (Avatar: the Last Airbender).  This could have been a good series if the writing weren't so bad, but as it is it's pretty average.

You're a Good Man, Charlie Brown - 7/10 - Yeah, more a TV special than a TV series, but whatever.  The more I buy these Peanut Specials that I supposedly loved when I was a child, the more I wonder why I keep buying them because they're pretty damn depressing (aside from Snoopy's antics, which are still amusing).  That isn't so much an issue here, through, as the chief culprit this time was casting children to sing songs written for adults.  The songs are mostly fun and often catchy, but when will filmmakers ever learn this cardinal rule of life: CHILDREN CAN'T SING HIGH NOTES.  They will ALWAYS sing off-key when you do that.  There are also some real stinkers in this special (Lucy's Song about marrying Shroeder and both of Snoopy's songs), though they are counterbalanced somewhat by the clever "Book Report" and "Home on the Range" pieces.  The real gem, though, is "Happiness" which concludes the special.  I do wish this special had something approaching a story, though, as it's very disjointed with these random dialogue sequences between the songs.

And no second Special alongside the main feature this time is ridiculous given the rate that these DVDs are being released (4-5 a year).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on February 01, 2010, 02:43:50 AM
MASH Season 6 - 6/10

It seems like this show hit a peak in season 5, because very little in 6 sticks out. None of the guest stars are particularly interesting or bring a unique plot angle, though Winchester makes for a pretty good replacement for Burns. I can't believe he tried drugging up a mouse for a race! :Q

I finally got the slender case version and I'm quite happy it has the play all button, but it seems like the video quality isn't as cleaned up compared to the phat case editions. There's a lot of that dated, brownish home video look PLUS you can't skip right to the end of the opening credits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2010, 03:07:44 AM
The Life and Times of Tim: Season 1

I think I made a thread about this before. I may have to bump it because this show is just so damn good. I rewatched the first season to prepare for the second one and the timing of the voice acting is perfect; the situations, hilarious; and the fact that it's on HBO makes the sky the limit. It's literally the best cartoon since Futurama; hands down. Episode 2 where Tim is forced by his boss to act Mexican is the funniest thing I've seen in a long ass time. I can't wait for the second season to air next week.

9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 02, 2010, 05:45:52 AM
So, I'm hyped for the last season of Lost starting today and will probably post about it a lot as it goes on. Should I put it in this thread or a start a new thread?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on February 02, 2010, 01:42:08 PM
Neither; you should utilize this thread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=13462.0).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 02, 2010, 02:45:14 PM
That my friends, is called a Batman Gambit. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on February 03, 2010, 03:51:36 PM
Freaks and Geeks

Watched the entire series--all eighteen episodes--over the past couple weeks.  Enjoyable, but falls a bit short.  I like most of the characters, but since the series ended prematurely it's full of half-baked ideas the writers didn't get to fully flesh out.  It's neat seeing lots of familiar faces long before they started doing movies.  Even features a guest appearance by a very young Rashida Jones (from The Office).

I like the geeks more than the freaks.

3 Stars
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 03, 2010, 04:39:29 PM
I didn't like that show. If you enjoyed it, check out "Undeclarted," which is basically the same show, but in college. I thought it was funnier.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 05, 2010, 07:04:32 PM
For the past 2 to 3 weeks I've been watching the 1st and 2nd seasons of Supernatural, and my friend is bringing me the 3rd season on Monday. So far I like Supernatural. For the first 2 seasons I rate this series an 8.5/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Gameboy Freak on February 06, 2010, 12:25:22 AM
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers 2010 Episode 2 - High Five

4/5

One of my favorite episodes as a kid! I am so glad they are re-airing episodes on Saturday mornings again! Even though they added a comic book like style to the episodes I still enjoy watching them.

Plus they re-released the MMPR toyline. Now I finally have the Original Mega Zord!  ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 06, 2010, 01:05:07 AM
Smallville: Absolute Justice

A 2 hour made for TV movie episode. Hawk Man, Dr. Fate and Star Girl. All handled pretty good. Costumes were surprisingly better than you may expect and that's excellent for a show with Smallville's budget. It's not a movie you can watch independently of the show, but it was a really good of the show. The special effect weren't cheesy and there was quite a few of them through out the episode/movie.

I'm just hoping that this mean Clark turns into Superman sooner rather than later and that JLA gets up and running sooner rather than later too. This has honestly been the best season of Smallville since I think season 4 (it's on a questionable streak for quite some time) and I hope they are getting the rating for one last season to cap it all of at season 10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 06, 2010, 04:38:33 AM
I've been watching a lot of Cheers lately, and I have to give it a solid 9/10. It's a standard sitcom, but it's done extremely well, with a great ensemble cast and excellent timing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 07, 2010, 12:13:31 AM
Cheers is amazing. It holds up extremely well. Norm!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 07, 2010, 12:27:35 AM
I never really got into Cheers.  It was a little before my time.  I was a big fan of Fraiser, though I never really followed it that closely (I'll be surprised if I've seen more than half its episodes).  Lots of love for Murphy Brown as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 07, 2010, 05:04:20 PM
See, I prefer Cheers to Frasier. The latter derives half its plotlines to overusing audience conceits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2010, 06:32:34 PM
Frasier is a spin off of Cheers right?
Dr. Frasier Krane or something like that?

I just watched an episode of Cheers last nite for the first time in a long time last nite since it was mentioned in this thread. Just as good now as it was then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2010, 06:35:39 PM
Frasier is a spin off of Cheers right?
Dr. Frasier Krane or something like that?

I just watched an episode of Cheers last nite for the first time in a long time last nite since it was mentioned in this thread. Just as good now as it was then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 10, 2010, 02:13:25 PM
Reboot - 8/10 - This one's been on my replay list for a while now, and it was fun actually watching the whole series from start to finish for a change (rather than the somewhat random order I saw the episodes on Cartoon Network).  This really is a show of 2 worlds, though: the first 1 1/2 seasons, and then the rest of the show.  The former is episodic, cheesy, boring, formulaic, and frankly sporting pretty ugly CGI (even for that era).  I don't think it's a coincidence that the show dramatically improves about the same time as Mainframe started working on Beast Wars, that company's best show.  Thankfully, once the war with the Web gets underway, the show becomes quite enjoyable and the CGI much more pleasant.  I still think the best section of the show is that small window where Enzo is learning to be a guardian and mount what little defense he can against MegaByte, before getting sent off to the Web after losing in Mortal Kombat.  I really would have liked to see where that story would have gone, but instead what follows that section takes a long time to grow interesting; Enzo becomes nearly unlikeable; and the plot really drags.  Once the show gets its plot threads in order, though, everything comes to an epic and very satisfying conclusion that would unfortunately be utterly destroyed by the pointless Reboot "Season 4" "movies".

Looking over the show, I'm a little surprised that given the information age that there haven't been more series like this.  The show is rough and often seems to be more interested in cute homages and parodies than quality writing (and often the quality of the episode is directly related to the quality of whatever Game is in town, but it's still a very enjoyable series with a novel concept.  Supposedly, we have a trio of Reboot movies on the horizon that...well..."reboot" the franchise, but it's starting to look doubtful that we'll ever see those.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 14, 2010, 01:05:39 AM
Survivors 9/10 Caught the premier on BBCA although that score means nothing. Not to be mistaken for Survivor the reality show. This is a British post apocalyptic post pandemic tv show about a couple of people that surved a deadly flu plague. Was pretty good, could become the next big thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 16, 2010, 03:39:07 PM
I just got Weeds Season 5 and have gotten through the first 3 episodes. So far, not bad but definitely fails to live up to the first 3 seasons. Once they left Agrestic, the show hasn't been the same. Elizabeth Perkins' and Kevin Nealon's characters have both descended into near total triviality, Romany Malco's absence is sorely felt, and the suburban satire elements of the series are almost completely absent now. But Mary Louise Parker and Justin Kirk are still goddamn awesome actors and it's fun to see the kind of **** that Shane and Silas are getting into now. I'd give the first 3 seasons a 9/10 average and seasons 4 and 5 (so far) a 7/10.

EDIT: Why the hell is "s u b u r b a n" being changed to sUncleBob (is awesome!) (is awesome!)urban?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2010, 04:35:52 PM
I just got Weeds Season 5 and have gotten through the first 3 episodes. So far, not bad but definitely fails to live up to the first 3 seasons. Once they left Agrestic, the show hasn't been the same. Elizabeth Perkins' and Kevin Nealon's characters have both descended into near total triviality, Romany Malco's absence is sorely felt, and the suburban satire elements of the series are almost completely absent now. But Mary Louise Parker and Justin Kirk are still goddamn awesome actors and it's fun to see the kind of **** that Shane and Silas are getting into now. I'd give the first 3 seasons a 9/10 average and seasons 4 and 5 (so far) a 7/10.

I agree. I might have even rated it the same way somewhere earlier in this thread, but I agree.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 20, 2010, 02:02:17 PM
I just finished Weeds season 5, the final scene is AMAZING. The last few episodes in general are really good. They've set up season 6 pretty nicely. Even the Celia/Doug/Dean/Isabel crew have some interesting potential now for season 6.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 20, 2010, 02:08:52 PM
what happened at the end? I don't remember if I ever finished s5 or not.

please [spoiler] where necessary.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 20, 2010, 02:10:05 PM
Shane bashes Pilar in the head with a croquet mallet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 20, 2010, 02:12:11 PM
Yep. I've seen it.
It's been a while since the season ended. Do you know when next season starts?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 20, 2010, 02:16:07 PM
I'm not positive but I think around May. I don't have Showtime and I don't think they put Weeds episodes online, so I might have to find other means to catch the show... I don't really want to wait till the Season 6 DVD comes out this time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 20, 2010, 02:28:31 PM
I have showtime at my moms house but not where I stay and I know for a fact that I'm not waiting till DVD hits, so if I find a way to watch it without going to my mom's house, I'll let you know.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caterkiller on February 23, 2010, 03:07:43 AM
National Geographic Fight Science
 
Episode: Fight Like an Animal!
 
5/10 HORRENDUS! Take a look at the preview
 
http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/fight-science/4323/Photos#tab-Videos/07717_00 (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/fight-science/4323/Photos#tab-Videos/07717_00)
 
I used to think Nat Geo was pure and true! Good god was I wrong!
 
First Glen Levy (yeah the guy who hit me with the devastating hammer fist) was representing Crane Wushu/Kungfu. He is a friend of mine and I love the guy, but trust me when I say he is NOT the guy who should be demonstrating that. It just looked really awful. And they barely talked about the combative techniques of the Crane. Terrible.
 
Li Jing of the Beijing wushu team was representing snake style. She knew what she was doing, but I wish she just composed herself differently during the tests if her hands were faster than the snakes. Plus she got picked over me and a few other guys in the next Star Wars video game so naturally I'm biased.
 
Tiger Guy was awesome, and what was said and done was great and spot on.
 
Wong Wei was the Mantis, dude is amazing! Also another friend of mine from China, who taught me many monkey techniques. His skill is top notch! But they had him literally catching flies like a mantis. They put him in a giant tank of hundreds of dirty flies too see if he could catch them. They gave all this sciency mumbo jumbo about how he caught 7 of them. LAME! Again nothing about how a Mantis guy would actually fight.
 
The monkey... ugh! This guy isn't even a Monkey Martial Artist, at least not as far as how they introduced him. He is a free runner who incorporated Monkey wushu into his movements! He is a blasted gymnast and they had him swinging on trusts like a monkey! That is absolutely not Monkey style! He did like 2 true monkey movements the entire time, and the rest was watching him flip and hang around like spider-man. You know what makes it worse?! I was auditioned by the producers to be the monkey on this episode, and obviously I was turned down. But it didn't matter to me because as far as monkey was concerned I felt there were people who were much better. BUT THIS GUY!? I bet not in a 100 years could he even explain how a monkey practitioner strikes!
 
NAT GEO really let me down with this one. I seriously have to think twice before I can trust something from them again.
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 23, 2010, 11:06:59 AM
I tend to not watch these kind of shows because they just seem like a circus act. I have respect for the martial artists, but the producers of this show have no respect for martial arts.

"Li Jing of the Beijing wushu team was representing snake style. She knew what she was doing, but I wish she just composed herself differently during the tests if her hands were faster than the snakes."

Would you be able to tell me if that Snake stance she used to strike the head can limit her striking speed? It just didn't seem that fast to me. I was watching some videos of Kendo, and some of the top guys in Japan had some mad striking speeds.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caterkiller on February 23, 2010, 12:54:12 PM
You know she was standing completely upright so I doubt her stance was limiting at all. But she is a bit past her prime, she is in her 30's now and not quite as fast as she used to be when she had to train on her team. I wouldn't doubt that she actually went faster than the snake if thats what the machines are saying, but there are much faster hands out there thats for sure. One thing I don't understand, is that they didn't measure the distance between the snake and the balloon. So how did they calculate the distance? Maybe i'm just remembering it wrong, but there was something that made me go "what a sec, how could they come to that when they didn't do this". Not sure though.

All I know is that fight like an Animal was a bunch of hogwash! I should of been the monkey consarnit!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 23, 2010, 01:05:22 PM
I hate it when American Idol is on. It screws up House' schedule.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 24, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
So you guys know how I've been hyping up The Life and Times of Tim, right? Well another show came on right after it on Friday on HBO and it's called The Ricky Gervais Show. Both of them are cartoons and both of them are hysterical. You guys should do whatever you have to do to watch these shows. Seriously, they are the funniest shows on television and I'm a big fan of Tosh.O.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 24, 2010, 07:05:06 PM
I watched both. Life & Times of Tim is always great. I was surprised at how much I ended up liking the Ricky Gervais Show, because it's basically a cartoon produced after-the-fact of Gervais' normal podcast, which I may have to subscribe to if it's free.

Who whole thing about the space monkey had me rolling on the floor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 24, 2010, 07:11:33 PM
yeah, that bit was hilarious.

his podcast is free by the way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 24, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
Well, I finally got around to watching the first 4 episodes of Caprica these last couple days (which, oddly enough, complement Heavy Rain very well), and although I generally liked the pilot episode I saw on DVD last year I'm really conflicted about this show.  On the one hand, it's well-acted and generally well-written, and I enjoy watching it and I want to see more of it.  On the other hand, calling this show's pacing "glacial" is an understatement.  Although there have been several interesting side plots explored thus far, there has been very little movement on the main story (which is cyber Zoe in the prototype Cylon).  I also have a general complaint about the setting: this is a futuristic society and is randomly advanced.  They have this virtual Ghost in the Shell-esque cyberspace with paper that can access the internet; space travel; and advanced robotics...but they drive 1950s cars and their buildings look modern at best.  This was an incongruity I had with Battlestar as well, but is a bigger issue here because you don't have the epic space battles and explosions to cover it up (besides, the Galactica was always supposed to be an ancient ship in the fleet with antiquated technology).  It's something that shouldn't bother me, but damn does it kill the immersion.  The world this show presents just doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 24, 2010, 07:40:25 PM
Funny you should call it "glacial." I don't watch Caprica but I do watch Mad Men, and that's a similar situation. Luckily, the setting holds up in Mad Men.

Also, Christina Hendricks is in Mad Men.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 26, 2010, 05:43:01 PM
Supernatural - Season 3: Frickin' awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2010, 07:02:59 PM
Everybody Hates Chris - I love this damn show. I wish I watched it when it was new, but I was already juggling too many TV shows to fit in another. If only I had known. This show makes me think back to the behaviors of people in my family, especially when it comes to the things the mom would say. This show always has me LMAO. Do they still make new episodes?

Human Target - Did I mention how entertaining this show is? Just Watch it, it's based off some DC comic book or something. Always good action even on a TV show budget. Someone once described this show as Chuck minus all the romantic drama and "best Buy" stuff. pure SpyTV.

Burn Notice - Always a treat. Season 3 Finale is next week and it should be full of action.

Spartacus - This show is the best new show of the season. hands down. Sex, Violence, Nudity, Gore, Action and Drama all wrapped into a nice visual package with a good story so far. WATCH IT (if you have Starz or Netflix)!!!! It actually airs on Netflix before it airs on Starz. The last episode(#5 Shadow Games) had a huge build-up and an intense finale.
New episodes come Saturdays on Starz but ep6 is already up on Netflix as we speak.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 28, 2010, 12:58:04 AM
Last night I was flipping around the channels and nothing was on. I came across HBO On Demand and watched The Life and Times of Tim because Stogi was talking it up in this thread. It is indeed a fantastic show. The On Demand channel only had about 6 episodes; I've got to find another way to watch the rest of them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on February 28, 2010, 04:28:12 PM
Twin Peaks

1st half of the series:  4.5 stars
2nd half of the series:  3.0 stars

David Lynch's version of a soap opera.  What a fucked up show.  Very entertaining.  Loses its way after they solve Laura Palmer's death but it finds its way before the series wraps up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 28, 2010, 06:34:35 PM
Mighty Morphin Power Rangers 2010 Episode 2 - High Five

4/5

One of my favorite episodes as a kid! I am so glad they are re-airing episodes on Saturday mornings again! Even though they added a comic book like style to the episodes I still enjoy watching them.

Plus they re-released the MMPR toyline. Now I finally have the Original Mega Zord!  ;D

I had noticed they re-released the toys, which i thought was cruel because only people my age would buy them. So, they have re-packeaged the shows? That makes more sense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 01, 2010, 05:14:35 AM
Here's a music video for anyone that saw the latest episode of 'The Ricky Gervais Show'. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGxGgsGVbOs)

You're welcome :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2010, 01:54:21 AM
Hulu is having a Best In Show competition here they pit certain shows in certain categories up against each other and you vote for the best one.

http://www.hulu.com/spotlight/bestinshow/0

This is week 1 of 5, so get to voting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: RABicle on March 03, 2010, 09:23:50 AM
Hungrybeast

10/10 Had a scene where tehy sliced off protuding labia. watch it for yourself! (http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/labiaplasty)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 03, 2010, 10:01:27 AM
that was the weirdest sentence I've heard in at least three weeks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2010, 11:18:01 AM
Hungrybeast

10/10 Had a scene where tehy sliced off protuding labia. watch it for yourself! (http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/labiaplasty)
"Only viewable from within Australia."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2010, 06:04:10 PM
Spartacus: Blood and Sand - This show is the best new show of the season. hands down. Sex, Violence, Nudity, Gore, Action and Drama all wrapped into a nice visual package with a good story so far. WATCH IT (if you have Starz or Netflix)!!!! It actually airs on Netflix before it airs on Starz. The last episode(#5 Shadow Games) had a huge build-up and an intense finale.
New episodes come Fridays on Starz but ep6 is already up on Netflix as we speak.

Here are some reasons to check out Spartacus. A few of the best ones I can think of....
NSFW The Bath Scene (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=gly&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&q=Lucy+Laless+nude+on+spartacus+egotastic&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=) NSFW
*click the first link*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 03, 2010, 06:24:45 PM
I don't know if that link is kosher on these boards...

Haven't seen it, but I've been tempted to. Mostly by Xena, Warrior Princess.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2010, 06:41:06 PM
The link itself doesn't really show anything so I thought it would be alright to link to it. But if I need to add a buffer zone between here and the actual web page I can do that too.


I'll edit it just to be safe.

It's edited and even better since I linked to the actual video and not just the stills.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 03, 2010, 06:47:25 PM
Nice, thanks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 03, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
I watched it all the way up to the most recent episode and its decent at best.

It seems like the director or writer before they made this show loved to beat off to 300. Seriously, this movie plays out more like a softcore porno with an exuberant budget and the plot of Gladiator attached, than a legit show. There's literally titties every five minutes...during every kind of scene...even the fighting ones! You'll see some dude get stabbed in the chest, then some lady in the crowd pulling out her babylons.

Then the show just seems to get more and more homoerotic. They make the gladiators constantly wear skippier and skippier underwear and towels (nothing but these sexy metal pants) until they aren't wearing anything at all. Then for some reason you have a dude fucking a little boy in jail cell. I mean...WTFuck.

Sure it's bloody and gorey and there's nudity and all that, but it really could do without that because one of the best parts about it is the story. It's actually very decent. It's the only reason I've watched thus far (Lucy Lawless titties were a bonus).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 03, 2010, 08:45:34 PM
It's supposed to be an accurate portrayal of the times, which means lots of nudity and gratuitous sex. And back then it as very common for there to be homosexual relationships as everyone was very open about sex, pleasure and eroticism in general.

Thems was some freaky times.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 03, 2010, 08:59:39 PM
LOL. I can wait till this show pops up in NZ. I have to say, based on what I have heard here, Blood and Sand is pure entertainment.

Trauma: A pretty new Medical drama set in San Francisco focus on first responder EMT/driver/pilot, with some pretty forgettable characters. One thing saves this show. I a man named Rabbit, played by no other than, Cliff Curtis. He just comes in and owns every scene he walks/fly/drives into. Rabbit 7.5/10 No Rabbit 5/10.

House Season :confused; Current one: Still good. Nice black Adder Cameo.

NCIS LA: Very touch and go so far. It has potential to turn in to CSI Miami of the NCIS franchise. Which is a bad thing. They have half pointless computer equipment and an extravagant HQ. No sunglasses yet, but there is a significant jump in shoot outs and body parts. Black dude needs surgery to get that stick out of his ass. 7/10

Winter Olympics Ice Hockey Final: DAAAAAMMMNNN that was a great game. I am no Hockey fan, but damn that was good. I was half expecting a fight to break out and was left disappointed in that regard. Canada now officially owns North America (at least got an IOU from it).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kraken613 on March 08, 2010, 02:57:05 AM
I saw Chuck about an month back and am now addicted. I bought season 1 and 2 of it and have caught myself up in season 3. Damn, how did I miss this show for 3 year?!?!?! IT'S AWESOME!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on March 08, 2010, 10:10:40 AM
Hungrybeast

10/10 Had a scene where tehy sliced off protuding labia. watch it for yourself! (http://hungrybeast.abc.net.au/stories/labiaplasty)

Hungrybeast probably has one good story per episode and the rest is just trash. It's a pity.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2010, 10:28:30 AM
I saw Chuck about an month back and am now addicted. I bought season 1 and 2 of it and have caught myself up in season 3. Damn, how did I miss this show for 3 year?!?!?! IT'S AWESOME!

I guess I haven't done enough to promote the show around here. I almost missed the first season and I have to say that marathoning it will definitely get you hooked on the show.

But if you like this show, you should give Human Target a chance too. It's more Spy TV without the romantic drama/comedy angle and more focused on action with much better fight scenes. Wednesdays on FOX.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 13, 2010, 06:39:53 AM
Sparticus: Whore

So I saw the latest episode pre-air. I know what your thinking. "Weren't you the dude that ragged on it for being a shallow piece of ****?" Yeah...I was. But you see boobies every 5 minutes and see people get the **** kicked out of them! It's a man-code no brainer. BTW Lucy Lawless has some big ass nipples lol The amount of male nudity is toned way down in this latest episode and the drama is turned way up (my two biggest criticisms reversed). Also, I think I only heard the word "Cock" three times, which is way below the "Cock" quota of a 117. This was directly reflected in the dialogue feeling a bit more natural and less retarded (I still think everyone sucks at acting except the Domino's and Spartacus...luckily they talk the most).

Anyway, this latest episode was awesome; better than any before it (except maybe the pilot). It also gave me some awesome ideas. Fucking with masks on is going my check list. Can't see myself being painted gold though....but maybe if 6 women were forced to massage it on me, I might be more up to it....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 13, 2010, 11:33:55 AM
I haven't watched this weeks episode yet, but I hear next weeks is even better.

And honestly, I think the 1st episode was the weakest and it only got better and better every single week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 15, 2010, 04:02:22 AM
I just watched the latest ep of Spartacus and all i have to say is O.M.G.!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2010, 12:42:06 PM
I hear that last nights episode of The Daily Show was off the hook last night. half an episode of Jon tearing Glenn Beck a new asshole. Just giving anyone that would want to tune in a heads up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 19, 2010, 01:05:58 PM
Yeah I watched it. I couldn't stop laughing!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 19, 2010, 01:09:50 PM
It was great, I was chuckling the whole time. I can't believe people actually WATCH Glenn Beck and take him seriously. I can't believe Glenn Beck takes Glenn Beck seriously.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2010, 02:19:23 PM
I don't think Glenn Beck takes himself seriously. I remember a clip somewhere of him saying that he's a character and and this is what his character does. Fox News' own Colbert type.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 19, 2010, 07:17:52 PM
So is Glenn Beck actually trying to satirize wingnut conspiracy theorists? I doubt it.

Here's the segment: http://is.gd/aPnep
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 19, 2010, 08:44:34 PM
I used to watch Beck, just because I found him an enjoyable entertainer about a year or so ago.  Then he plunged into a year-long series of conspiracy theorizing and economics lectures that bored me to tears.  I just wanted to hear responses to the news of the day, which he doesn't really do anymore.  When I watch for that, I watch Hannity now (but even that is rare with me working now).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 21, 2010, 05:29:41 PM
Ricky Gervais Show: The monkey's on call with the fire department. Brilliant!

Life & Times of Tim: God, this is a great show.

The Last Three Episodes of Lost: Good to be caught up. Sahid's clearly losing his mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on March 26, 2010, 01:37:04 AM
3rd Rock From The Sun (1st Season)

9.5/10

It's pure comedian genius... in my opinion of course.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 27, 2010, 07:46:31 AM
Blood+ - 9/10 - Well, after 2 years my long Odyssey of trying to get through this 50-episode show finally concludes, thanks to being able to multitask watching this while playing Resonance of Fate.  To this day, I still can't fathom Sony's decision to release this show in 2 $80+ sets with a 2-year window between releases.  Anyway, overall I really liked this show, and it's probably the only anime I've seen since Fullmetal Alchemist (with the exception of the recent Evangelion 1.11) that really reminded me of the kind of shows that got me into anime in the first place (Cowboy Bebop, Escaflowne, Robotech, Gundam 8th MS Team, etc.).  It's certainly the only Production I.G. show I can stand so far.  Blood+ is also one of the very few series I've seen where I feel the 50-episode length was justified without having to rely on fanservice and padding, instead focusing squarely on good character development and a plot that surprised me at times with the directions it would go.  I really only have two big complaints: first, there's a pointless and irritating plot development that comes out of nowhere in the final 8 or so episodes that not only severely detracts from what was otherwise a very character-driven plot, but insults me as an American (seriously, the Japanese need to get over WWII).  The other complaint is that although I like Sony's English dub, it suffers from very obvious budget problems: Simply put, this is a massive story with a suitably-massive number of characters, but the dub cast by comparison is very small.  This means that you frequently have minor and less-major characters doubling up with the same actors, leading to scenes where it's quite common for an actor to be talking to himself...talking to himself...talking to himself in barely differentiated voices (Crispin Freeman is a repeat offender here with one of the most hilariously-bad French accents I've ever heard). 

On minor complaints, there's also a plot arc with a minor character that spends a great deal of time going exactly nowhere, with 2 characters basically shadowing the main group for well over half the series.  The show's also extremely heavy on the jargon, so if you aren't paying attention it can be easy to get lost.  Finally, the first half of the show seems to be where this show makes or breaks it with people: if you're expecting an action show like the original Blood: the Last Vampire (a movie I despise), look somewhere else.  There is action, but it's mostly a lot of talking and character development (though nowhere near the levels of endless vocal white noise you get in something like Ghost in the Shell).

On a sidenote, Marc Manchina's orchestral core for this series is fantastic and fits the animation perfectly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 28, 2010, 10:26:11 PM
Well over the past few days I have been watching Spider-man:The Animated series.
It is a great series overall and a must watch show for fans of Spiderman and 90's animation in general.
5 out of 5.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 29, 2010, 05:15:34 AM
Well over the past few days I have been watching Spider-man:The Animated series.
It is a great series overall and a must watch show for fans of Spiderman and 90's animation in general.
5 out of 5.

If you haven't seen the recent Spectacular Spider-man, you should.  It completely annihilates the 90s animated series in everything but scope (which is a byproduct of one series lasting many years and another only 2).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on March 29, 2010, 10:42:34 PM
Sons of Tucson 7/10 it loses a half a point every time they reference Tucson without actually researching Tucson.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 30, 2010, 04:17:04 AM
Well over the past few days I have been watching Spider-man:The Animated series.
It is a great series overall and a must watch show for fans of Spiderman and 90's animation in general.
5 out of 5.

If you haven't seen the recent Spectacular Spider-man, you should.  It completely annihilates the 90s animated series in everything but scope (which is a byproduct of one series lasting many years and another only 2).
Well I started watching the series a little bit after your post here and finished the series a little while ago. My thoughts it is a pretty fun series. The combat is better in this series than the 90's series.
The story is ok. I felt myself getting into the 90's series more. Unfortunatly both series leaves a cliffhanger at the end of the respective series.

The 90's series grabbed my attention more and held it.
Both are good series.
5 out of 5.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on March 31, 2010, 03:13:05 AM
3rd Rock From The Sun (2nd Season)

9/10

Damn if this isn't some great comedy. I really liked their dream sequences, even though I didn't have 3D glasses to watch them with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 31, 2010, 01:45:59 PM
Season 3 of Greek. My wife has been watching the whole series, and I sit on the couch and play Pokemon. I'm not that interested in the show (I really hate girlie politics, which is basically the whole show) but some of the ZBZ's are cute, and Cappy is funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 01, 2010, 02:30:46 AM
Supernatural Season 4. It was a great watch, but I think scope of the show has almost gotten too big for its own good. My favorite episodes are usually the monster of the week episodes (I think because they remind me so much of the X-files) but to bounce between "Teddy Bear comes to life" and "The fate of the universe is in your hands, kill your brother!" it is a tough thing to pull off.

3 stars
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on April 01, 2010, 10:11:26 AM
The scope of the show is even bigger in Season 5... I caved in and started downloading all the episodes so far because I couldn't wait any longer for the season to finish and for this season to come out on bluray.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sessha on April 01, 2010, 12:01:18 PM
I seen Stogi already mentioned this on page 2 but Home Movies, one of my favorite shows I would give a 9/10 it would get a nine but season one had this terrible thing called squigglevision.  The other 3 seasons rely heavily on retroscripting and branching stories that meet up in the middle much like Seinfeld.  A drunk soccer coach that has no idea how to play soccer that somehow becomes a competent father figure somehow works so well.  If you start to watch I would suggest not starting with season 1. It only lasted 4 seasons but it has a proper season finale that wraps everything up so nicely.  I

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLZgESsVeAY&feature=related
Short clip
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 01, 2010, 09:12:39 PM
AHAHAHAHAHA I just watched the new southpark!

**** was hysterical. Do yourself a favor and watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2010, 02:41:04 AM
Just wanna remind everyone that FOX is up on Netflix now.
Lots of FOX's TV shows are up for streaming.

We're talking about all seasons of:
Arrested Development, 24, Bones, Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse, Prison Break, The Dead Zone, X-Files, Firefly, Sliders, 21 Jump Street, King of the Hill & Rescue me.

Most of them listed here:
http://www.netflix.com/WiGenre?trkid=1457040&sgid=1446&lnkce=mdp-genre (http://www.netflix.com/WiGenre?trkid=1457040&sgid=1446&lnkce=mdp-genre)

But this allows me to catch up on those last 6-7 episodes of 24 that I missed last season, that also prevented me from even watching it at all this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on April 02, 2010, 12:07:13 PM
Speaking of Netflix, I started watching Buck Rogers. Awesome trip down memory lane, but my god is this show cheesey. I suppose if you keep it in context of 1978 then its not so bad. Also, Knight Rider, Airwolf, and The Incedible Hulk are more great early 80s hamfests.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on April 02, 2010, 01:14:40 PM
Just wanna remind everyone that FOX is up on Netflix now.
Lots of FOX's TV shows are up for streaming.

Sweet.  Thanks for the heads up!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on April 03, 2010, 03:59:35 PM

Just wanna remind everyone that FOX is up on Netflix now.
Lots of FOX's TV shows are up for streaming.


We're talking about all seasons of:
Arrested Development, 24, Bones, Buffy, Angel, Dollhouse, Prison Break, The Dead Zone, X-Files, Firefly, Sliders, 21 Jump Street, King of the Hill & Rescue me.


Most of them listed here:
http://www.netflix.com/WiGenre?trkid=1457040&sgid=1446&lnkce=mdp-genre (http://www.netflix.com/WiGenre?trkid=1457040&sgid=1446&lnkce=mdp-genre)


But this allows me to catch up on those last 6-7 episodes of 24 that I missed last season, that also prevented me from even watching it at all this season.


HELL YES.


I just added Arrested Development and the first episode of season 1 is DVD only, what the hell??
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 03, 2010, 04:06:25 PM
Doctor Who (Season 5) - The Eleventh Hour.

Matt Smith is... wow. It's found its feet pretty damn fast.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on April 04, 2010, 10:10:22 AM
YES!

"On 29 September 2009, it was announced that a deal had been struck between ITV, Watch, Impossible Pictures, German broadcaster Pro7 and BBC Worldwide to produce two new series of the show for transmission in 2011. [4]
Filming for series 4 and 5 of Primeval started on 22 March 2010 and is due to finish in November 2010,[citation needed] with a supposed January 2011 airdate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval)"

I'm watching primeval again, this time I got the DVDs for Season 1 and 2 in one volume. Creatures from many time periods appearing in modern day England because of some temporal rifts that happen to pop up here and there, and the characters are quite likeable, and this show isn't as random as Doctor Who or Torchwood... this show is just made of awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2010, 11:36:48 AM
Primeval s1, 2 & 3 are up on Netflix Instant Watch, so if it's as good as you say, maybe I'll check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on April 04, 2010, 03:37:35 PM
It won't hurt to give it a try.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 04, 2010, 04:33:24 PM
YES!

"On 29 September 2009, it was announced that a deal had been struck between ITV, Watch, Impossible Pictures, German broadcaster Pro7 and BBC Worldwide to produce two new series of the show for transmission in 2011. [4]
Filming for series 4 and 5 of Primeval started on 22 March 2010 and is due to finish in November 2010,[citation needed] with a supposed January 2011 airdate. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval)"

I'm watching primeval again, this time I got the DVDs for Season 1 and 2 in one volume. Creatures from many time periods appearing in modern day England because of some temporal rifts that happen to pop up here and there, and the characters are quite likeable, and this show isn't as random as Doctor Who or Torchwood... this show is just made of awesome.

I made a big hubbub about this last year :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on April 04, 2010, 07:25:23 PM
You did? My bad. I need a new brain...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on April 06, 2010, 01:53:11 PM
I just added Arrested Development and the first episode of season 1 is DVD only, what the hell??

It's just the extended pilot that's disc-only.  Honestly, you're not missing much.  There's a few extra minutes of footage.  However, the pacing of the extended pilot isn't nearly as good as the final version.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2010, 07:27:15 PM
I am on a Firefly marathon right now (thanx Netflix & Fox) and I'm really disappointed that there are only 14 episodes of this show. I just finished ep9 and I've already seen the movie Serenity, but I can't see why this show didn't at least get a second season.

I mean Paris Hilton gets a job or gets a life or whatever that show was called has 2 or 3 seasons and that show was just stupid. Heroes might even get a 5th season and that show hasn't been good since the 1st season. Now I see why all those Firefly fans have been crying out for so long about this show and now I feel bad for never bothering to figure out what it was all about.

It is good to see that most of the people have moved on to other shows and I even recognized a few of them; like the "Companion" chick is Anna from V, John Casey from Chuck has pretty much the same character on this show, the pilot was also on V, the pilots wife was on several things including The Shield, the crazy chick was a Terminator and I think is now on Dollhouse and The Captain is on Castle (which I've never watched, but might check out now).

So far I give Firefly an 8.5/10
I'm gonna have to re-watch the movie again after this series and see if it get any better(I had already really liked the movie without ever having seen an episode of Firefly).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spinnzilla on April 11, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Just watched some of UFC 112.  Confirms my thoughts that Anderson Silva is a complete douche. 
 
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2010, 04:18:41 AM
ep 12 of Spartacus..... If you are not watching this show, then you are missing THE best new show on television this year.

Get past the 1st few episodes (since some don't like them) and get past the obvious comparisons to 300 (the stylized blood does pass) and stay for the character development, action, nudity ;) and story and you will just as ready for the season finale (which airs this week) as I am. Absolute craziness with how everything has developed up to this point. I can't wait to see how they bring all this to a close and set things up for season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on April 12, 2010, 09:20:52 AM
To go back to the OP - if you're not watching Breaking Bad, you should be.  Season three is AWESOME.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Armak88 on April 12, 2010, 11:43:45 AM
To go back to the OP - if you're not watching Breaking Bad, you should be.  Season three is AWESOME.

I just got into breaking bad and have caught up on the first two seasons and it is awesome. I have been a little underwhelmed by the third season though. The second season was so good, and this season is taking forever to have anything happen. I know that things are building up towards something crazy, but I can't handle episode after episode of ratcheting up the tension without anything else happening. I think that the first two seasons did a great job of having multiple plot threads going on at once. In this season it seems like all of the plot threads are converging, which is cool, but there isn't really anything else going on in the meantime. I'm still watching because I'm completely hooked, but after yesterday's episode I felt a little let down.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2010, 12:27:13 PM
Breaking Bad is not up for Instant Watching, so it has to wait till I finish 6 Feet Under and I'm not sure how long that is gonna take.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 12, 2010, 12:57:38 PM
6 Feet Under is THE most depressing show I've ever seen. Watched the whole series, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2010, 02:15:36 PM
Tell me about it.... I'm at the last disc of s2 and while the show is intersting it is sort of a downer. Gay Dexter doesn't help either, but this show is the bookend on my death trilogy of Dead Like Me (Reapers taking souls just before they die), Pushing Daisies (Bringing those that just died back to life to help find who killed them) and now Six Feet Under (Undertakers restoring the bodies and putting them to final rest).

I plan on finishing the series, but it's few and far inbetween of getting season disc since I keep filling the space between the top and disc 5 with more recent movies. Is the 3rd season really good, should I keep watching till the end? Is there a light at the end of the tunnel?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 12, 2010, 04:53:21 PM
NO! No there's not! Not at all! The show just gets into this horrible downward spiral. There is a GLIMMER of hope in the last episode, but up until then, it's just shitty situations piled on shitty situations.

It doesn't have to do with death, but if you liked Dead Like Me and Pushing Daisies, you may well enjoy Wonder Falls, which was created by the same people (and it's very obvious).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2010, 04:57:37 PM
I liked Dead Like Me(but the movie sucked) and Pushing Daisies was alright(a little too Dr. Seuss for me), but if Wonder Falls is on Instant Watch, I might check it out.

edit: WF is not on IW, but I'll keep an eye out for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 12, 2010, 07:50:57 PM
ep 12 of Spartacus..... If you are not watching this show, then you are missing THE best new show on television this year.

Get past the 1st few episodes (since some don't like them) and get past the obvious comparisons to 300 (the stylized blood does pass) and stay for the character development, action, nudity ;) and story and you will just as ready for the season finale (which airs this week) as I am. Absolute craziness with how everything has developed up to this point. I can't wait to see how they bring all this to a close and set things up for season 2.

(http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/e/eb/Scruffy_2.jpg/225px-Scruffy_2.jpg)

Second.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2010, 08:35:10 PM
ep 12 of Spartacus..... If you are not watching this show, then you are missing THE best new show on television this year.

Get past the 1st few episodes (since some don't like them) and get past the obvious comparisons to 300 (the stylized blood does pass) and stay for the character development, action, nudity ;) and story and you will just as ready for the season finale (which airs this week) as I am. Absolute craziness with how everything has developed up to this point. I can't wait to see how they bring all this to a close and set things up for season 2.

(http://theinfosphere.org/images/thumb/e/eb/Scruffy_2.jpg/225px-Scruffy_2.jpg)

Second.

I just want to add that everything that they have been building up to, all the plot points that have been created(starting in the 3rd or 4th episode), all the relationships that have made and all the characters that have been introduced all come to a point where all paths cross in the next episode.

This is a result of the entire story, including all the characters, dialog and plot twist for every episode being written out long before they even started filming. I guess it doesn't hurt that it has some historical reference to follow, but I just think it was an amazing build up from something that seemed so shallow to begin with to become what it is now.

I really hope they treat the second season the same if not better.

I'm really hoping that Batiatus and Sucretia make it to next season. Same with Ashur and Illithia. I guess I hoping that they don't end the story of the House of Batiatus just yet and save it for sometime next season instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 16, 2010, 03:22:12 PM
Haven't done one of these in a while, since I've mostly been embroiled in Final Fantasy.  Thanks to the seemingly-endless amount of grinding, though, required to complete some of the harder post-game content, though, I did manage to slip in...
 
Sakura Wars TV - 3/10 - Playing the recently-released (in the US) Sakura Wars 5 got me in the mood to try and watch this again.  Man, if I hadn't only been half-watching this as a distraction from all that tedious FF XIII grinding, I don't know how I would have gotten through this show.  I tried it once before and just couldn't.  Anyway, this series is pretty much a perfect example of why I find it hard to watch most anime from before 2001 or so: it's bland, it's boring, it's not terribly well-drawn or animated, and the English voice acting is terrible.  What's bizarre about this is that this series was supposedly animated by Studio Madhouse, an studio well-known for its awesome animation.  The show's plot just goes through the motions, never being outright bad and never being terribly good.  The villain is comically bad, which is sad because he has an interesting backstory that could have gone interesting places if the writers gave a damn.  He's evil because...Trix are for kids.  Hell if I know.  I guess he just picked up the script one day, saw that he was penciled in as a Stock Anime Villain Trying to Plunge the World Into Darkness with the Powers of Evil (TM), and just decided to go for it.
 
The one good thing this show has going for it is its insanely-catchy opening theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__DlvhFix60) (which I will now subject you to), produced in the days before the anime intro was so overwhelmingly J-pop singer-advertising as it is now.

Anyway, I've already devoted more words to this show than it deserves, but I will say this: I've started watching the movie that was produced shortly after this show concluded its run, and it's fairly enjoyable (and contains a few characters from Sakura Wars 5, if you're interested).  I'll have more to say about that in movie thread.
 
EDIT:  Actually, to the show's credit there is one other compliment I can give it: despite being a show about a bunch of teenage girls (and one gradeschooler) performing in plays and battling in steampunk robots, there's not a single goddamn exploitative scene in the show.  If this show were made nowadays, it would be covered in panty and breast shots, especially of the gradeschooler.  You can't imagine how refreshing it is (after all these years of watching anime) to see a show that has every opportunity to do so, but never sinks to that level.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 16, 2010, 04:12:27 PM
I'm currently going through Season 1 of Big Bang Theory.

Sheldon is annoying, but the show is good overall.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2010, 03:42:26 AM
Spartacus - Season Finale
Holy ****!!! 10/10

There was one scene that was straight out of a ghost horror movie. It was fuckin creepy, scary and OMG WTF crazy. You'll know the scene when you see it.

Season 2 couldn't come soon enough as I can't wait to see what happens next.

Best NEW show of 2010 confirmed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on April 19, 2010, 12:22:34 PM
I still prefer Rome to Spartacus, but Spartacus is enjoyable to watch, and I too cannot wait to see what happens next.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2010, 01:12:07 PM
Looks like we're gonna find out what happened before season one before we find out what happens after it.

Starz is making a 6 episode Prequel to fill in for the delay since that actor that plays Spartacus was diagnosed with a form of cancer and production on s2 was halted so he could get it treated.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 19, 2010, 01:43:42 PM
Finished season one of The Big Bang Theory.

Math, science, history, discovering the mystery that all started with a big bang (BANG!)/10

Season ended on a high note. Sheldon is less annoying now that I've gotten used to him. I can't figure out if Penny is hot or merely cute. Sheldon's sister IS hot, though. Yabba-dabba-doo hot. A little tall.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 15, 2010, 12:34:12 AM
V is turning into power rangers
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2010, 12:40:48 AM
V is turning into power rangers

how so?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 15, 2010, 01:54:39 AM
Anna is turning into a Rita sort of character and the resistance are like the Power Rangers. The original series was about fascism. Though this would be like a much better version of power rangers. If there were zords and giant monsters though...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2010, 04:28:27 AM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 15, 2010, 08:00:54 PM
Season Finale of Modern Family: WTF/10

There was more of the blonde in a bikini than Sofia Vergara. THERE IS NO JENOVA.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 15, 2010, 08:44:14 PM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.

It was an amazing season finale, so many possibilities for season 10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2010, 09:43:58 PM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.

It was an amazing season finale, so many possibilities for season 10.

who do you think was the old lady that went into Tess' room after she flatlined?
and what do you think it was that came ofter Ollie in the airvents? "Cloe, They're not Kandorians!"
he didn't really sound all that scared when he said that part.

Do you think That Clark pulls the dagger out and finally flys away, or that Martian Manhunter catches him since he has no superpowers with Blue Kryptonite near him?
Where do you think Aquaman and Impulse were? there were the only 2 missing members of JL I think.
How do you think Lois is gonna & Clark are gonna move forward now that Lois has finally figured out who The Blur is. You think Clark denies it or that Lois is now part of the secret squad and even more of a liability to Clark because she knows? Will they take her to Watch Tower? Will she find out Ollie is the Green Arrow and Chloe has been in on the secret almost the entire time Lois has been in the picture?

I think this whole season was solid. It's a shame they wasted season 5, 6 & 7 with so much nonsense. I also really hope that Lex(Rosenbaum) gets off his high horse and comes back for the final season so they can wrap this up properly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 15, 2010, 11:19:49 PM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.

It was an amazing season finale, so many possibilities for season 10.

who do you think was the old lady that went into Tess' room after she flatlined?
and what do you think it was that came ofter Ollie in the airvents? "Cloe, They're not Kandorians!"
he didn't really sound all that scared when he said that part.

Do you think That Clark pulls the dagger out and finally flys away, or that Martian Manhunter catches him since he has no superpowers with Blue Kryptonite near him?
Where do you think Aquaman and Impulse were? there were the only 2 missing members of JL I think.
How do you think Lois is gonna & Clark are gonna move forward now that Lois has finally figured out who The Blur is. You think Clark denies it or that Lois is now part of the secret squad and even more of a liability to Clark because she knows? Will they take her to Watch Tower? Will she find out Ollie is the Green Arrow and Chloe has been in on the secret almost the entire time Lois has been in the picture?

I think this whole season was solid. It's a shame they wasted season 5, 6 & 7 with so much nonsense. I also really hope that Lex(Rosenbaum) gets off his high horse and comes back for the final season so they can wrap this up properly.

Oh yes Seasons 5-7 were pretty disappointing, the creator's of the show leaving after season 7 was the best thing to happen to it. It is one of the few shows that improved tremendously later on its life.

I'm hoping the woman who is knitting is Granny Goodness, meaning Darkseid shows up in season 10 as the villain. Who knows what the things were that were attacking Green Arrow. What was especially awesome about this episode was the Clark "dream" about Metropolis in 2013 and receiving the superman uniform!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2010, 11:44:56 PM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.

It was an amazing season finale, so many possibilities for season 10.

who do you think was the old lady that went into Tess' room after she flatlined?
and what do you think it was that came ofter Ollie in the airvents? "Cloe, They're not Kandorians!"
he didn't really sound all that scared when he said that part.

Do you think That Clark pulls the dagger out and finally flys away, or that Martian Manhunter catches him since he has no superpowers with Blue Kryptonite near him?
Where do you think Aquaman and Impulse were? there were the only 2 missing members of JL I think.
How do you think Lois is gonna & Clark are gonna move forward now that Lois has finally figured out who The Blur is. You think Clark denies it or that Lois is now part of the secret squad and even more of a liability to Clark because she knows? Will they take her to Watch Tower? Will she find out Ollie is the Green Arrow and Chloe has been in on the secret almost the entire time Lois has been in the picture?

I think this whole season was solid. It's a shame they wasted season 5, 6 & 7 with so much nonsense. I also really hope that Lex(Rosenbaum) gets off his high horse and comes back for the final season so they can wrap this up properly.

Oh yes Seasons 5-7 were pretty disappointing, the creator's of the show leaving after season 7 was the best thing to happen to it. It is one of the few shows that improved tremendously later on its life.

I'm hoping the woman who is knitting is Granny Goodness, meaning Darkseid shows up in season 10 as the villain. Who knows what the things were that were attacking Green Arrow. What was especially awesome about this episode was the Clark "dream" about Metropolis in 2013 and receiving the superman uniform!

I just watched the episode again and the dream actually hinted that Lois already knows Clark is Superman. Also they mentioned Jimmy Olsen, who only 3 years from now would only be about 12-15years old tops. I doubt he'd be working at the Daily Planet.
I've also heard speculation that Darkseid could be next, but I don't know anything about who Granny Goodness is(I was more of a Marvel kid).
Care to inform me?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 16, 2010, 03:06:08 AM
Smallville season 9 finale - sogood.gif

2 cliffhangers in one episode and a huge tease right in the beginning.
Looks ti be a nice set-up for the final season, so I hope the get it together and do it right.

It was an amazing season finale, so many possibilities for season 10.

who do you think was the old lady that went into Tess' room after she flatlined?
and what do you think it was that came ofter Ollie in the airvents? "Cloe, They're not Kandorians!"
he didn't really sound all that scared when he said that part.

Do you think That Clark pulls the dagger out and finally flys away, or that Martian Manhunter catches him since he has no superpowers with Blue Kryptonite near him?
Where do you think Aquaman and Impulse were? there were the only 2 missing members of JL I think.
How do you think Lois is gonna & Clark are gonna move forward now that Lois has finally figured out who The Blur is. You think Clark denies it or that Lois is now part of the secret squad and even more of a liability to Clark because she knows? Will they take her to Watch Tower? Will she find out Ollie is the Green Arrow and Chloe has been in on the secret almost the entire time Lois has been in the picture?

I think this whole season was solid. It's a shame they wasted season 5, 6 & 7 with so much nonsense. I also really hope that Lex(Rosenbaum) gets off his high horse and comes back for the final season so they can wrap this up properly.

Oh yes Seasons 5-7 were pretty disappointing, the creator's of the show leaving after season 7 was the best thing to happen to it. It is one of the few shows that improved tremendously later on its life.

I'm hoping the woman who is knitting is Granny Goodness, meaning Darkseid shows up in season 10 as the villain. Who knows what the things were that were attacking Green Arrow. What was especially awesome about this episode was the Clark "dream" about Metropolis in 2013 and receiving the superman uniform!

I just watched the episode again and the dream actually hinted that Lois already knows Clark is Superman. Also they mentioned Jimmy Olsen, who only 3 years from now would only be about 12-15years old tops. I doubt he'd be working at the Daily Planet.
I've also heard speculation that Darkseid could be next, but I don't know anything about who Granny Goodness is(I was more of a Marvel kid).
Care to inform me?

Ah ok

Granny Goodness is one of Darkseid's minions, she is usually represented as being more on the masculine side in regards to her physical looks and is one of Darkseid's best soldiers
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 17, 2010, 05:04:20 PM
I had no idea Smallville was still going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2010, 05:17:00 PM
I had no idea Smallville was still going.

Not only still going, but best season is many many seasons.
Series finale is next season though, so if you were interested, this summeris the time to play catch-up

---------------

Community (on NBC)
Modern Warfare (http://www.hulu.com/watch/147571/community-modern-warfare)
^Hulu link to episode

A mash up of action movie stereotypes while the school is having a massive paintball fight where the last man standing gets a prize. Lots of laughs throughout the entire episode, especially the slow motion scene. Great execution on this episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 17, 2010, 06:06:01 PM
Would you recommend Smallville to someone who knows NOTHING about the mythology of Superman, or about comic books in general?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2010, 07:04:39 PM
yes. I don't know much about Superman comics myself, since I've never read one & I'm not a fan of Superman in general, but I'm a big Smallville fan (it start to fall apart somewhere around s5 an doesn't recover till s8. - <s9 just ended>)

I think it actually helps if you are unfamiliar with the mythos, but know who Superman is. Smallville covers from the beginning all the way up to his journey of becoming Superman, so you learn everything you need to during the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 17, 2010, 09:19:42 PM
Would you recommend Smallville to someone who knows NOTHING about the mythology of Superman, or about comic books in general?

Not in the least, Smallville doesn't really follow the comics, just basic mythos picked here and there. It is its own unique entity and is completely stand alone. In fact fans of the comic whine all the time about how it doesn't follow them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 18, 2010, 04:29:27 PM
I use to like smallville but gave up on it because there are way better series to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 19, 2010, 10:00:33 PM
Well Smallville's season 10 will be its last.

http://tv.ign.com/articles/109/1091183p1.html (http://tv.ign.com/articles/109/1091183p1.html)

Kind of bitter sweet to me, because I still really enjoy the show especially these last couple of seasons, but I want the show to go out on its own, not by some last minute cancellation. This will give the writing staff time to build up to a proper ending for the series. So far the writing staff has improved every season and I hope the final season is one of the show's best now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 19, 2010, 10:48:32 PM
The Good Guys - Awesome/12

I checked this out because I loved Bradley Whitford on The West Wing, and it did not disappoint. He plays his character fantastically well, with some really hilarious lines, and a pretty good supporting cast. Really funny show; I can't wait to see more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 20, 2010, 01:00:09 PM
Season finale of Modern Family. Such a good show. Also, Sofia Vergara is so unbelievably good looking.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2010, 01:26:24 PM
Season finale of Modern Family. Such a good show. Also, Sofia Vergara is so unbelievably good looking.

She was. In the last episode all wet in the bathing suit and especially hot in that white dress.
But I can't stand her voice sometimes. She reminds me of Fran Drescher (The Nanny).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 20, 2010, 01:37:14 PM
She said in an interview that she will exaggerate her accent on some words for comedic effect. But for the most part, that's what she really sounds like.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2010, 02:21:55 PM
That sux cause Fran Dreschers voice is nails on a chalkboard to me.

Her voice reminds me of it way too often. Especially when whe speaks loud or drags on a certain sound like JaaAAAy, you so crAAAAzy
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2010, 12:58:51 AM
The REAL Avatar (The Last Airbender) Books 1, 2 & 3 are streaming on Netflix
incase anyone wanted to catch up before the movie comes out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 23, 2010, 07:37:20 AM
Stargate Universe (Episode 18, Subversion) - 9/10. The perfect balance between humour and actual dramatic tension.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 23, 2010, 06:19:20 PM
both Modern Family and the Middle are great shows, whoever set that block up should get a promotion

the last time ABC had anything decent was home improvement, and before that was TGIF
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 24, 2010, 12:31:31 AM
ricky gervais show 1x13

funniest episode yet

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 24, 2010, 02:33:48 PM
Season 5 of Doctor Who

Bloody fantastic governor/10

The story dynamic has somewhat changed from last season with the change in doctors. Where in the last 3 seasons, the awesomeness that is David Tennant really helped carry the show, especially when he was attached to Martha Jones and at times questionable story telling. David had made it believable.

Matt Smith has massive shoes to fill and doesn't quite fill them, but he is still more than adequate for the job at hand. What is even more well planned and influential was the change in writers. With RTD stepping down has allowed some very fresh and most excellent writing. It's so good, that I am tempted to torrent the episodes instead of waiting for the broadcast.

The new companion Amy Pond/Karen Gillan is a feast for the eyes and full of baggage. Secondary characters are more important than ever and has more often than not displaced the doctor rendering him a observer himself.

Fantastic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 25, 2010, 07:27:11 PM
Season 5 of Doctor Who

Bloody fantastic governor/10

The story dynamic has somewhat changed from last season with the change in doctors. Where in the last 3 seasons, the awesomeness that is David Tennant really helped carry the show, especially when he was attached to Martha Jones and at times questionable story telling. David had made it believable.

Matt Smith has massive shoes to fill and doesn't quite fill them, but he is still more than adequate for the job at hand. What is even more well planned and influential was the change in writers. With RTD stepping down has allowed some very fresh and most excellent writing. It's so good, that I am tempted to torrent the episodes instead of waiting for the broadcast.

The new companion Amy Pond/Karen Gillan is a feast for the eyes and full of baggage. Secondary characters are more important than ever and has more often than not displaced the doctor rendering him a observer himself.

Fantastic.

Have you seen The Time of Angels and Flesh & Stone?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 25, 2010, 07:47:59 PM
Yeah I am now on The Time of Angels. It hit me side on with a surprise 2 parter. Oh that was a clever as hell episode making the "Perception filter" 4th wall breaking. I mean, bloody hell I should have noticed it before the "reveal" but the writers had distracted me from the obvious the entire time. I can't wait for the next part. Oh, I love how the "Church" has finally moved on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on May 25, 2010, 08:29:31 PM
the last time ABC had anything decent was home improvement

Speaking of which..

Home Improvement season 8 -- 6/10 augh??

Tacked-on Tool Time segments, throwaway cameos by half of the main cast, no more tool/life metaphors, boring guest stars. A couple very good eps here, but the disappointing ones stick out like a...sore, accidentally hammered thumb.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 25, 2010, 08:55:12 PM
back to Sofia Vergara, google image search her name and be very satisfied :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on May 30, 2010, 10:57:50 AM
Rome: 15/10

2 friends and I just watched the entire first season again over the course of 4 days and we're starting the second after we get back from Memorial Day vacation to Maine--I know weird, but IT is very good up here :) . Rome is the best show I have seen on T.V when done with this second season I will have watched it 8 or 9 times all the way through while watching episodes here and there as I introduced it to other people who loved it. It is for the most part historically accurate beginning with Caesar's rise to power and ending with Augutus becoming First Citizen. It tells the story of Rome mostly through the viewpoint of two of the greatest characters ever scripted in any T.V show. I could rant for hours and hours about this show, but I'll stop now.

Oh and Perm, thanks for the heads up... I like her better with dark hair, and that a$$!!!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 31, 2010, 11:18:31 PM
Season finale of House: They've been dragging the House/Cuddy thing on for WAY too long, so I'm SORT OF happy it's "resolved," but I also stopped caring a long time ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 01, 2010, 12:03:09 AM
I have to agree with you, Halbred. I hope that next season is the last. Did you notice near the end when the camera panned towards House's hand, and that it looked purple, as if it was ready to be amputated or something?

I think I'm the only one here that watches Supernatural, and I have to say that the season finale was awesome. I love this tv series.
I cannot wait for season 6. Even though this season was supposed to be the last, and it ended how the main producer/creator wanted it to end, I'm still excited for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2010, 12:23:30 AM
I was watching Supernatural during this season, but stopped so I could watch it from the beginning (Why didn't I watch this show when it first started?). I was really enjoying it but seeing all the way through from the beginning sounded too tempting since I just started watching this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 01, 2010, 12:28:53 AM
I will only mention new episodes (or at least new to me) I watch here since I watch a lot of re-runs. I thought tonights episode of WWE Raw was great. They really tried to elevate Evan Bourne and the renewed focus on the tag team division is nice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 01, 2010, 12:45:40 AM
(Why didn't I watch this show when it first started?)

Same here. For a few years I have this policy to not watch TV, so most of the stuff I watch is downloaded because of word of mouth from here, or from local friends. It was a friend of mine that lent me his seasons 1 to 3 DVDs that made me change my mind. I was so hooked that I bought season 4 on bluray, and by then season 5 was running. I thought I could hold out until the season 5 bluray would come out, but I just couldn't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 01, 2010, 12:52:48 AM
The thing is that I remember when it started. The main guy was a guest star for Smallville for one of it's worse seasons (s5) as Jason Tiege or something like that and he left that show in a hurry to start Supernatural. I saw the first episode, and I think it started at the same time as some 20 minute sitcom about the devil and I was just watching/following too much TV back then to make the time to give it a real chance.

I then caught an episode or 2 during s3 and really liked what I saw, but was still committed to too many shows at that time to add another one. I finally started watching this season, but starting from the beginning is the way to go since they keep referencing things I don't know about.

I would have started it already on Netflix, but my girl wants to finish 6 feet under first so she can see what happens to "Gay Dexter" (as she refers to him).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 01, 2010, 01:42:12 AM
Gay Dexter... ahahahahaha! I wonder if they recorded the newest season? I say this because Dexter had cancer, or so I was told.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 01, 2010, 04:31:03 AM
NewsRadio - 10/10

I started watching it again recently because it was the anniversary of the tragic death of Phil Hartman and I wanted to watch something with him in it, and I've already gone through a season and a half. I've called it the best live-action TV comedy ever made, and I stand by that. I consider Phil to be the funniest man who ever lived, and he's great in this, but he's not the best character; that would be station owner Jimmy James, played incredibly by the very underrated Stephen Root (probably most famous for being Milton in Office Space). From what I remember, the show kept getting better and better until Hartman's death between seasons 4 and 5, and I've put on hold watching shows that I'm watching for the first time to go through NewsRadio for what has got to be at least the third time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 01, 2010, 09:25:06 AM
Spider-Man: The Animated Series (1994) - 7.5/10 - While I was trudging through the never-ending hell that is completing Resonance of Fate, I decided to throw on this show as background working through the entire series.  Overall, eh it's decent.  The show had an unfortunate habit of using stories from 60s-70s era Spider-Man, so there could be an awful lot of goofiness in the writing.  Unlike its successors, though, this show went on long enough to give characters time and space to develop and allow some interesting stories to form.  The show has an outstanding vocal cast, though Peter Parker's has a tendency to go into full-on "Speed Racer" mode with internal monologues that never seem to pause for more than a half of a second.  Where this show got hit hard, though, was with the censors, where this show was notorious for just head-scratching lunacy (example: one standards return the team got said that when Spider-Man lands on a rooftop, he's not allowed to disturb any nearby pigeons) that really toned down what they were allowed to do.  Still, despite the sometimes goofy writing; sometimes hideously bad episodes; at times laughably bad animation; constant flash-backing; and the looming threat of censorship, there are some really entertaining episodes here.  In fact, "Turning Point" (the Season 3 Finale) still holds up fantastically as one of the best Spider-Man episodes ever made across all series.  That's kind of the problem, though: the series peaked early with Seasons 2 and 3, and it never reached those heights again.  On the bright side, in general this show did excellent cross-overs between Spidey and multiple other Marvel properties that just could not be done these days due to legal issues.  Overall, I'd say the show's held up better than X-Men has and can be genuinely fun to watch, but it doesn't quite rise to the heights of Spectacular Spider-Man.  A pity that show was assassinated by Disney, because I would have liked to see where it could have gone with 65 episodes to work with like the 90s series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 01, 2010, 05:27:17 PM
i used to love that Spiderman show, but i watch it nowadays and the animation is soooo bad, the plots and setups are still pretty good though. The thing is though is that I remember thinking about how the animation was much better than previous incarnations when I was a kid. Same thing with X-men too. The new series have been out, but i have not been able to enjoy their plot lines.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 01, 2010, 05:41:51 PM
Spider-Man has aged a lot better than X-Mn has, and I still consider it my favorite incarnation of the character (by far better than the movies, and I won't get into how much I hate the "Ultimate" universe and what they did to Venom in it). I wish it would be released on DVD, but licensing issues may be a problem (Disney owns the rights to the Fox series, but Sony currently has the TV rights; things might be a little easier now that Disney owns Marvel since now that means any deal would only require two companies rather than three to reach a deal).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on June 02, 2010, 02:11:23 PM
I've recently started watching season 1 of X-Files.  First time seeing the show since it originally aired but I remember really liking it as a kid.

I'm about 8 episodes in and I gotta ask--when's it get good?   :-\
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 02, 2010, 02:41:24 PM
I recently watched the whole series via Netflix, Vudu.

The short answer is: it never really does. The show is VERY hit or miss from episode to episode. Once the writers find their core mythology (the Black Oil), which is relatively late in the show, it gets a little better, but it still has a lot of bad episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2010, 02:53:13 PM
How do you feel about Fringe?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 02, 2010, 03:32:26 PM
Never seen it, though I do keep meaning to put the first season on the queu.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2010, 03:43:14 PM
I think The X-files holds up if you watch it for the monster of the week episodes, the mythology episodes aren't nearly as strong.

Fringe starts out pretty dry but improves as it goes on. Season 2 is better than Season 1.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2010, 03:53:18 PM
Never seen it, though I do keep meaning to put the first season on the queu.

Halbred: click here (http://www.netflix.com/AddToQueue?authURL=1275508322703.Us7atQXbmwC5nGYUfyaUul9bxo4%3D&movieid=70100704&section=0&trkid=222336&strackid=665a83146da77bd8_0_srl&strkid=1421104308_0_0)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 02, 2010, 04:01:23 PM
I think The X-files holds up if you watch it for the monster of the week episodes, the mythology episodes aren't nearly as strong.

Fringe starts out pretty dry but improves as it goes on. Season 2 is better than Season 1.

I would hope so.  I've been watching Season 1 off and on for a few months now, and so far (my best friend and I just finished the first season) it's nothing special but it's serviceable.  In fact, we've had most of our enjoyment mocking several goofy aspects of it (the wondrous FBI database that can find exactly what you're looking for no matter how vague the search term, the special effects, the cow, etc.).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2010, 08:20:44 PM
broodwars, have you spotted an Observer in each episode?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 02, 2010, 08:27:12 PM
broodwars, have you spotted an Observer in each episode?

Not in each episode, no.  It's not like it's a series I've been hardcore watching.  My best friend just Netflixes the show and brings over a disc like once every 3-4 weeks or so, so I just casually watch it every once in a while.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on June 04, 2010, 12:30:57 PM
I've started rewatching X-Files too, and yeah, the show hasn't aged too well. I did love it as a kid, though, which seems weird to me now, given how dry and depressing the show seems to be most of the time. I'll keep watching though because I do remember the series getting better after Season 1.

insanolord, I like NewsRadio too, especially Stephen Root, but best live-action TV comedy of all time is a bit of a stretch IMO...

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 04, 2010, 12:37:38 PM
I would put Newradio in my top 10 sitcoms of all time.

In no paticular order:
News Radio
Cheers
Seinfeld
I Love Lucy
Taxi
Wings
The Cosby Show
The Office
Plus two more.

I noticed that most of the shows come from NBC.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 04, 2010, 12:41:43 PM
I would put Newradio in my top 10 sitcoms of all time.

In no paticular order:
News Radio
Cheers
Seinfeld
I Love Lucy
Taxi
Wings
The Cosby Show
The Office
Plus two more.

I noticed that most of the shows come from NBC.

Would Fraiser be one of the other comedies from that list?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2010, 12:54:23 PM
I would put Newradio in my top 10 sitcoms of all time.

In no paticular order:
News Radio
Cheers
Seinfeld
I Love Lucy
Taxi
Wings
The Cosby Show
The Office
Plus two more.

I noticed that most of the shows come from NBC.

Did you ever watch Golden Girls?

RIP Rue "Blanch" McClanahan
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on June 04, 2010, 11:12:42 PM
Clearly Betty White is a Time Lord or something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 05, 2010, 02:29:54 AM
Anybody remember the extremely short-lived, but very good Spider-Man series on MTV? One of the only good things that channel has ever produced. Very attractive CG models and great plots. It's a shame the first season ended on a GIGANTIC cliffhanger and was never renewed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 05, 2010, 03:22:05 AM
Anybody remember the extremely short-lived, but very good Spider-Man series on MTV? One of the only good things that channel has ever produced. Very attractive CG models and great plots. It's a shame the first season ended on a GIGANTIC cliffhanger and was never renewed.

I remember it, didn't watch it because I thought it looked lame, same with that goofy looking "The Batman" series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 05, 2010, 05:04:44 AM
MTV had quite a line up of cartoons at one time. Now they seem to focus on trashy reality shows. Do even the teenie boppers care about MTV anymore?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 05, 2010, 12:43:03 PM
Anybody remember the extremely short-lived, but very good Spider-Man series on MTV? One of the only good things that channel has ever produced. Very attractive CG models and great plots. It's a shame the first season ended on a GIGANTIC cliffhanger and was never renewed.

Sure have, though I found it only "ok".  The series was done by Mainframe Entertainment, the folks who created my All Time favorite Transformers series: Beast Wars.  Unfortunately, they never really learned how to animate living beings.  The action sequences looked really good, but the sequences with the human characters were really robotic-looking.  The voice acting was also pretty terrible, especially the stunt casting they pulled for The Black Cat "not-Black Cat".  The series did probably have my favorite version of Electro, though, and although the writing was pretty mediocre for most of the show, it ended on a good note.  I would have liked to see where that show would have gone, but like all Spider-Man series after the 90s series it got canceled right before it really got a chance to shine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 05, 2010, 02:10:41 PM
I thought MTV's version of Spider-Man sucked. I gave it a chance, but after about 3 episodes I still hated it. I guess I wasn't alone because it only lasted about one season. The only two Spider-Man shows i've enjoyed were the one Disney made for Fox, and I sorta liked The Spectacular Spider-Man (although much less). I hated MTV's Spider-Man and Spider-Man Unlimited. I haven't seen enough of Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends to judge it.

Speaking of shows ending on cliff hangers,  I loved John Doe and hated that it ended on a huge cliffhanger. A few months later the creator of the show told TV Guide what they had planned to do in season 2 to resolve it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 07, 2010, 04:16:46 PM
Fringe (Season 2 201 & 202) - 5/10 - Yeah, they're still ripping off X-Files left and right (and, in the premier, the premier of the second season of Quantum Leap as well), dropping for the exciting possibilities that the Season 1 Finale left us at with the parallel universe and meeting Bell...at least until it's narratively convenient.  Honestly, that's probably the thing about this show that bugs me the most: it has the potential to handle the parallel universe theory in a manner that's never been done well before in Science Fiction television, but they're still pussyfooting around the X-Files' rejected scripts and stretching things out as much as humanly possible.  There are also three potential plot holes that just bug me:
 
1.  It's been a few months since I saw the season 1 finale, but I could have sworn it ended with Dunam walking into an office building, getting into an elevator, and getting zapped into the parallel universe so she could meet Bell.  When was she in a traffic accident before that?
 
2.  Why is no one bothered by the fact that she just appears in thin air around everyone crashing through the windshield of an empty vehicle?  I'll excuse Walter not being that bothered by it because he's well aware of the parallel universe and was expecting it, but c'mon neither Peter nor the new FBI agent OR Duman's supposed partner is bothered by this?
 
3.  What the hell happened in that first episode with Dunam in the hospital?  One moment she's in critical condition in a coma everyone said she'd never wake up from, including a scene where Peter and the Director are raising a toast to her in a bar.  The next moment, she's perfectly fine having only suffered minor damage.  WTF?

 
Oh, and Dunam's "partner" (and I put "partner" in the biggest air quotes imaginable because he's barely been on the show) has now been replaced by a shape shifter from the parallel dimension.  Well, nice knowing you, buddy!  Oh wait, we didn't know you at all!  I really wish Hollywood would get over that nasty habit of trying to give a character an extremely noticeable "moment" in the episode where they're about to kill them off.  Gee, why didn't they just have him give a speech about What He Was Going to Do When the War Case Was Over (TM) while they were at it, maybe a reference to a Girlfriend Back Home He was Going to Marry (TM) or something while they were at it?
 
Oh, and why cover the parallel universe when we can have a standalone case involving Gollum's stunt double?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 07, 2010, 04:49:52 PM
Boondocks Season 3

So far not as funny or original as the first two, but I never laughed so hard during Granddad's "nightmare". Fucking hysterical.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 07, 2010, 04:54:20 PM
Anybody remember the extremely short-lived, but very good Spider-Man series on MTV? One of the only good things that channel has ever produced. Very attractive CG models and great plots. It's a shame the first season ended on a GIGANTIC cliffhanger and was never renewed.

I remember it, didn't watch it because I thought it looked lame, same with that goofy looking "The Batman" series.

The Batman was a fine series.  It just took a few seasons to develop and realize it didn't have to be the exact opposite of Batman: The Animated Series (though there are episodes of Seasons 1 and 2 I really enjoyed), but when it came into its own around Season 3 (of 5) it was an excellent (if a little simple) series with interesting character designs and great animation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 07, 2010, 05:20:08 PM
Boondocks Season 3

So far not as funny or original as the first two, but I never laughed so hard during Granddad's "nightmare". Fucking hysterical.

oh ****. that started already?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 07, 2010, 07:12:45 PM
A few weeks ago (they just aired episode 6 yesterday). I like "Stinkmeaner 3: The Hateocracy", which has Stinkmeaner's old "gang" friends trying to kill Granddad, Huey, and Riley to get revenge for Granddad killing him.

BTW, watching the show on DVD is disturbing. The last thing I ever wanted to see was Granddad's penis (a season 1 episode had him working out in the nude, and they show it all uncensored on the DVD).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 08, 2010, 12:33:28 AM
Dexter season 3 disc 1. Jumping into another season of Dexter, I don't like the new Detective Quinn... 3 stars so far
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on June 12, 2010, 01:37:25 PM
Spider-Man The New Animated Series: GS122/10

Well, the hottest chick ever voiced Mary Jane and NPH voiced Peter Parker - it's worth watching just for that.

Ideally, the series is a follow-up to the first movie - and it's pretty good.  The animation... well... leaves a lot to be desired.  There are some points where it really shines, but, all-in-all, I prefer the style of the FOX series.

The show only had one season and just *ends* with no resolution on several plot points.  That's a real downer.  On the other hand, it's only 13 episodes and you can watch it all for free via Hulu, so, if you like Spider-Man, go for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 12, 2010, 03:21:15 PM
If you're not watching The Good Guys, you really should be. Someone I know described it as "Monty Python meets Dragnet" and that seems about right. Bradley Whitford completely nails his part, which is good because he's the heart of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 12, 2010, 05:12:44 PM
I am watching The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 thanks to Netflix, I hadn't seen the show since Pax TV aired it like 12 years ago. It's not as bad as Zach said it was on the Newscast a few months ago, but it's not as good as The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.  It always annoyed me that Dic Entertainment changed the names of the Koopalings.

Also, it makes me sad that the Princess was a fan of Milli Vanilli (as was Kootie/Wendy Koopa). The plot of one episode had the Mario Bros., Toad, and the Princess attending a concert from them in the real world, then Kootie kidnapped them to make them perform just for her. Princess Toadstill even called them the greatest band in the world.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on June 12, 2010, 05:32:04 PM
I am watching The Adventures of Super Mario Bros. 3 thanks to Netflix, I hadn't seen the show since Pax TV aired it like 12 years ago. It's not as bad as Zach said it was on the Newscast a few months ago, but it's not as good as The Super Mario Bros. Super Show.  It always annoyed me that Dic Entertainment changed the names of the Koopalings.

Also, it makes me sad that the Princess was a fan of Milli Vanilli (as was Kootie/Wendy Koopa). The plot of one episode had the Mario Bros., Toad, and the Princess attending a concert from them in the real world, then Kootie kidnapped them to make them perform just for her. Princess Toadstill even called them the greatest band in the world.

To be fair, what was your music preference in the 80's? ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 12, 2010, 05:41:22 PM
I was born in 1986, so pretty much the only music I heard in the 80s were the music to cartoons I watched (I still love the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme).

One downside to Shout Factory DVD releases is that they don't pay music licensing fees, so they replace licensed songs. This was especially awkward in the Milli Vanilli episode as the scene has them "singing" to their song "Blame It On the Rain", but the DVD release has generic rock music playing (but still shows their mouths moving).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 12, 2010, 07:56:43 PM
Everyone was a fan of Milli Vanilli back in the day, that's what made the news of a lipsync "boy" band so controversial back then and why it's still remembered to this day.

"Blame it on the rain"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 12, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
i was born in 1984, and i head 80s music all the time, and lots and lots of 70s music
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on June 13, 2010, 01:57:59 AM
I was born in 1986, so pretty much the only music I heard in the 80s were the music to cartoons I watched (I still love the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles theme).

Forget the TV show theme.  Ice's Ninja Rap is where it's at, baby.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFLGRidfFo4
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 13, 2010, 11:40:04 PM
NINJA, NINJA RAP NINJA NINJA RAP
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 13, 2010, 11:56:21 PM
Was not impressed with Stargate Universe's season finale. Cliffhanger, after cliffhanger, after cliffhanger, because that's what took to finish off the first season: 3 episodes. *facepalm*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 14, 2010, 01:27:29 AM
The cliff hanger nature of SGU I can deal with since it really helps to set itself apart. Instead a bunch of loosely associated stories which Atlantis/BSG became, it just one all continuos story. Their fight for survival doesn't stop because they solved this weeks problem. It actually feels really old school. I laughed a little with the next episode preview where everyone looks to be praying in a Universe where it's pretty much proven there is no God. Just entities of unimaginable power/technology. I know I am viewing that clip out of context, but I can't help it.

Mind that I have only seen the first 4 episodes. I hope they keep it tight the whole way through. I enjoyed Star trek Voyager for what it was, but we only need one Voyager and one show with massive amount of lost potential.

As for Doctor Who, I have just finished watching Amy's Choice. So far the episodes have had some fantastic writing except for the fact I am starting to dislike how each episode resolves themselves. I can't put my finger on it, but things feel rather unsatisfied. The new doctor is still weak since I felt he got out done by the guy who played Dream Lord.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on June 23, 2010, 06:36:33 AM
Star Trek The Next Generation season 1 -- 6.9/10

I like that they jump ahead 80 years or so and imagine how the technology will advance, while keeping the back history. I like that the red alert sound is reused, the away mission planets have that TOS horizon-glow, and the instrumental interludes are classy. Recycling whole episodes, not so much.

Unexpectedly, I found most episodes clunky and left me dry. The pilot feels long, there's a Q episode where he talks about having them play a "game" against some army but eventually it revolves around Riker getting Q powers, and the Ferengi ship's bridge is just a white screen like they forgot to build the set! Then there's weird 80s stuff like the running episode or the other one where these superpowered aliens kidnap all the children on board.. because they want to preserve their culture and can't produce any offspring of their own. I don't know if that's a specifically weird 80s thing? Were impotent couples kidnapping children back then or something? I don't feel like rooting for the alien kidnappers, and I'm not rooting for Wesley to be rescued; since I don't get what the message is supposed to be, it just comes off as creepy.

The holodeck is awesome and some other special effects are ahead of their time, but the first season is only memorable in that it, one, plants the seeds for future episodes to mine: Q's power, doomed aliens attempt to preserve their culture, holodeck goes haywire, debating whether a life form is sentient, etc; and two, for establishing a few interesting characters.

Also the unintentionally funny, (or intentionally?) funny moments make it worthwhile, but the running episode, "Justice", is pure lol. The Enterprise looks at this new planet to see if it'd be any good for spring break tourists, and it turns out that everyone is healthy and runs everywhere they go, and everyone is friendly. Worf approves with a "Nice planet!" that is so deadpan I can't believe it didn't win an Emmy.
(http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/117/l_89fd5c803ece4efe868de9046b4bea76.jpg)


Of course once they learn that capital punishment is the punishment for all crimes on this planet, they immediately need to find Wesley to warn about it, because even though he's supposed to be a child-genius, he's actually a terrible human being. That's not what they say, but it's so obviously implied, and then proven by the next scene where he falls while trying to catch a ball, that the Picard facepalm is truly understood.

A scene begins with the camera zooming out on this stuff.. WTF
(http://c2.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/114/l_ac8779acddeb43268fec799687594055.jpg)(http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/128/l_1b7ff6b68c154f4084729d2c16e3f8a7.jpg)(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/132/l_9368f81fd079494fba4a194b454d391c.jpg)



Oh, and there's this other episode, "Symbiosis", wherein a whole planet of people need a steady supply of this 'medicine'....
(http://c1.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/150/l_31993744d9c849c8bd04cff03fec528c.jpg)

S.1 is disappointing but lolworthy
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2010, 09:55:19 AM
I've always thought TNG was overrated. It hits some amazing highs, but also has a lot of pretty mediocre episodes. It's not a bad show, but it's probably my least favorite Trek series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 23, 2010, 10:06:55 AM
TNG is probably my second-favorite Star Trek series, behind Enterprise (yes, I know that's a bizarre pick for favorite Trek series.  I just found the characters in that series more "human" than in previous Treks, and the last 2 years of its 4 years were fantastic.  Plus, Bakula.).  TNG was incredible from about Seasons 3-5, but was pretty mediocre to terrible in the first 2 and last 2 years.
 
And before someone mentions Deep Space Nine, yes that series was great as well...in its final 2-3 years when they decided to stop screwing around with the Dominion War and actually tell that story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2010, 10:20:34 AM
I love Enterprise, it's my second favorite series. Seasons 3 and 4, especially 4, were fantastic, and I'd say seasons 1 and 2 were better than TNG on average. I loved DS9 the whole way, it's my favorite Trek series, but I agree that it took them a bit too long to get to the meat of the Dominion War.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 23, 2010, 02:14:25 PM
TNG's first two seasons are absolute drivel. They didn't get into the meat of the series until the third season, though parts of the second season are pretty great. My absolute favorite Star Trek episodes are from TNG, so it ranks right up there for me. Several stand out:

1) Data is on trial for being a toaster (not a joke--it's a great episode)
2) Moriarty escapes! It has one helluva twist.
3) The one where Counselor Troi is taken over by some dead woman's slutty spirit and winds up basically topless because she has a sheer nighty on and nothing else (ON NATIONAL TV, NO LESS) (and DVD). The episode is crap, but that scene is awesome.
4) THE BORG!
5) The final episode is pretty incredible, seriously.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2010, 03:00:48 PM
If I were making a list of the top 10 Star Trek episodes ever, TNG episodes would probably make up half of it, or close to it. After that top tier, though, the quality drops off fast.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 23, 2010, 03:34:19 PM
The first season of TNG was horrible, easily the worst of any season of any Trek show. There are TNG episodes, but it is my second least favorite Trek (I would rank them DS9, ENT, VOY, TNG, TOS; I have never seen TAS).

I wish more people had watched ENT, the Xindi arc that took up the whole third season was great (it was the same reason I loved the Dominion War that was the focus of the last 3 seasons of DS9). Season 4 gave us episodes to help bridge it with the other series (like the two part "In a Mirror, Darkly", the episode that finally explained why the Klingons of TOS looked so different than future Klingons, etc.).

BTW, I am so glad that after season 2 of TNG they realized that Trek fans do not want clip shows; the season finale of season 2 was a freaking clip show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 23, 2010, 04:42:37 PM
I watched Voyager, but i found the show lacking something, obviously maybe because it was on at the same time as DS9, and DS9 was awesome. I woulld have watched more  Enterprise, but it was never on at a good time and then it became unavailable in my area.

also, TAS is surprisingly good. I caught several episodes on netflix, and its entertaining in the same way the Twilight Zone is still entertaining. Not to mention that they have remastered the series, and despite the bright 60s colors it doesnt come off as camp and cheezy because of this. So, make sure you watch the remastered version. I think episodes are available on CBS.com too.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2010, 05:23:16 PM
There are some great Original Series episodes, but more than half the series is completely unwatchable. "The City on the Edge of Forever" is one of the best Trek episodes ever, though, and a truly great sci-fi story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 23, 2010, 08:38:16 PM
yeah, i read the episode description before i watched them...and i picked good ones. I dont have netflix anymore, and i havent checked it out on cbs.com yet. So, i have yet to see a terrible episode. I watched about 6-8 episodes or so.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 24, 2010, 05:52:30 PM
And before someone mentions Deep Space Nine, yes that series was great as well...in its final 2-3 years when they decided to stop screwing around with the Dominion War and actually tell that story.

The entire Klingon Arc in Season 4 was to do with Paramount saying they needed to shake up the story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 24, 2010, 05:58:44 PM
And on the note of SGU, i liked the finale but i still don't connect to the characters yet.

Not sure why.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 24, 2010, 06:21:57 PM
SGU is forced on you
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 24, 2010, 06:28:33 PM
SGU is forced on you

How do you mean?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 24, 2010, 11:28:24 PM
as far as shows of its type, its all there is. If DS9 were new episodes and just had came out..which would you watch?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 24, 2010, 11:55:17 PM
DS9 and SGU do have some similarities. However early seasons of DS9 was no where as cohesive as SGU, at least not until the much later seasons. Even then you had episodes that had nothing to do with the big arc of the season.

If DS9 came out now and assuming I never got burned by Enterprise, I would watch it, but I would still be pissed off with the heavy handed religious rubbish that permeated that show.

Both SGU and later seasons of DS9 feel "real". With DS9 you had visits back to Earth where is it a garden of Eden, but going back to the station felt more like the real world. You still had the technology and the thinking that made earthly utopia possible, however it's is warped by the outside world to something more practical. Then you had section 13, which quite literally should have earned it's own spin off. Eden was good but not perfect as it needed dark men in the shadows to defend it from all who threaten it, internal or  external.

I would love to see a new Star Trek show based on Section 13. How much blood would you spill to protect Heaven?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 25, 2010, 08:11:20 AM
SGU has a feeling of realness, partly to do with the Stargate universe taking place at realtime - hence all of Season 1 took place in late 2009/early 2010.

I liked the religious angle in DS9 because its the opposite of what we know takes place in stargate. In the Star Trek universe its generally assumed there is no gods of any sort. But then we become aware of the Prophets who are gods almost, and can bend the rules as they see fit. It breaks established rules in the universe and does a lot to set it apart. They did spend a lot of time in Bajoran religion but that was the main context of the show. A lot of the more religious episodes i deliberately skipped.

In stargate there is assumed to be gods because earth culture (egyptian, medieval, i think aztec) was based on aliens coming to earth with their technology who built/wrote/told things based upon it.

The best episode of Season 1 SGU was Time simply because what it achieved was incredible. It was a triumph of how you can make interesting episodes about time travel yet be bold enough to deliberately playw ith your head and not neatly tie up the episode either.

To be fair if they were on now i'd be watching both of them. DS9 Season 1 was a wibbly mess and it only started to pick up from Season 3 onwards when they started knuckling down into the characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 25, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
First two episodes of the new season of "Bullsh*t!" (fast food and martial arts)

I love this show, although sometimes Penn comes off as a little angry. They're covering vaccines this season, which I'm REALLY looking forward to, although I imagine the people who need to hear it won't listen.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (disk 1 of season 1)

Not sure what to think yet. The production values are just as high as the original, most of the original cast is back, and there are some subtle changes in terms of characterization that I'm finding interesting. HOWEVER...it's the same show. According to Wikipedia, the original anime didn't break with the manga until after the brothers go back to re-train with their teacher. That's aways away.

I feel like I should just wait until THAT season comes out, then start there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 25, 2010, 02:08:46 PM
First two episodes of the new season of "Bullsh*t!" (fast food and martial arts)

I love this show, although sometimes Penn comes off as a little angry. They're covering vaccines this season, which I'm REALLY looking forward to, although I imagine the people who need to hear it won't listen.

Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood (disk 1 of season 1)

Not sure what to think yet. The production values are just as high as the original, most of the original cast is back, and there are some subtle changes in terms of characterization that I'm finding interesting. HOWEVER...it's the same show. According to Wikipedia, the original anime didn't break with the manga until after the brothers go back to re-train with their teacher. That's aways away.

I feel like I should just wait until THAT season comes out, then start there.

Like I said, the story diverges around episode 15, where the anime finally puts the brakes on after all the speeding it's been doing through rehashed material.  The brothers will be back with Izumi by the end of your set, so you'll be there before you know it.  And by the way, that's Disc 1 of Season 1 Part 1.   :P:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 28, 2010, 02:37:46 PM
OMG. I never thought they would do a season 4, but they have. The IT Crowd. I'm so happy. I was chuckling all the way through episode 1.


By the way. Has anyone else seen the latest True Blood episode, episode 3? That was some fucked up **** at the end. Really fucked up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 29, 2010, 04:56:13 PM
By the way. Has anyone else seen the latest True Blood episode, episode 3? That was some fucked up **** at the end. Really fucked up.

The scene with Bill?
yeah I saw that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on June 29, 2010, 06:53:44 PM
Underbelly: 9/10 It's an Australian TV show that I pick up on BitTorrent and is also available on DirecTV, but not as current.

Great show! The thing I love best about it is that each season is different, and each season is based on a true story about the "Underbelly" of Aussie society. The third season has concluded and while not as great as seasons 1 and 2, it was still better than most of the crap on American TV. It's not your typical 'gangsta' stories, because 1. They are true stories, and 2. It's not American TV. Check it out.


Oh, and I liked the 1st season of TNG. Two Q episodes, we're introduced to Lore, and in another episode you get to see Lt. Yar's side boob right before she has sex with Data... CLASSIC! Sure the season as a whole was not as fluid as later seasons, but 'drivel' seems a little harsh considering that without the first two seasons, the rest of the show could not have taken place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 29, 2010, 08:39:33 PM
There were some good episodes in the first two seasons, but the majority were terrible IMO. Some of the particularly bad ones that pop to mind include the one where Yar is kidnapped by this species that look and act like they are from 19th century Africa (you wonder how they even have warp drive), the episode where Yar was killed by a tar monster (which looked worse than even TOS's special effects), the episode where two Klingons try to take over Enterprise, and the episode where Troi becomes pregnant. I also did not like the second Q episode (where Riker is given the powers of a Q). I did like that Lore episode though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 29, 2010, 08:59:50 PM
i liked that Q episode where Riker gets powers, most Twilight Zone/ TOS/ Lost in Space episode i can think of.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 30, 2010, 04:25:21 AM
Underbelly: 9/10 It's an Australian TV show that I pick up on BitTorrent and is also available on DirecTV, but not as current.

Great show! The thing I love best about it is that each season is different, and each season is based on a true story about the "Underbelly" of Aussie society. The third season has concluded and while not as great as seasons 1 and 2, it was still better than most of the crap on American TV. It's not your typical 'gangsta' stories, because 1. They are true stories, and 2. It's not American TV. Check it out.


I can't believe I just read that.  Season 3 has been on TV for a couple of months now.  Or something like that anyway.  Now I have never watched it, so I won't criticize it.  It is given lots of praise here, but we Aussies must be pretty easy to please considering the other junk they call australian TV.  ANY other Australian show is absolute junk.  I can't stand it.  As soon as I see "New Australian Show" on an ad, that's my cue to avoid it like the plague and turn back over to NCIS, or Bones or something.

I might add that I am talking about my own countrymen television here, so I'm not biased.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 07, 2010, 04:49:51 PM
Second-to-last disk of Daria: 9/10

This may be MTV's best, most well-written TV show ever. It's a shame it's gone, and it's a shame these DVD's couldn't afford th licensed music that was originally on the show. Still, it's barely noticable because the writing and animation are so good. The show is wrapping up (the last disk has the two "movies") nicely--characters are maturing and Daria has a steady boyfriend. In fact, it's becoming apparent who ISN'T changing: Daria's father and Sandy are more annoying now than they were before, because everyone around them is maturing while they remain cardboard cutout characters.

Even Stacy is standing up to Sandy now, which is pretty big.

I'll be sad to see the show go, but I'm excited to see how the last two "movie" episodes wrap everything up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 08, 2010, 08:39:27 PM
Just watched SGU Time. Holy hell that was brutal and is some of the best Sci-fi I have ever seen. I went back several times just to watch Chole die by bug. It's easily the strongest first season episode of any sci-fi. I would expect to see such a awesome episode at the end of a series.

The Rush/Eli combo continues to really carry the show through the rough spots like water/earth. I really like Greer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on July 08, 2010, 09:44:55 PM
I think that Greer, Eli, and Young are great. I feel that all the other characters are just annoying, and the only eye candy on screen for me is Ms. James.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on July 10, 2010, 10:52:46 AM
Eureka's back. Oh man, what a great episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2010, 01:03:23 PM
Eureka's back. Oh man, what a great episode.

What!! were were all the ads? all I've seen advertised was Warehouse 13 and that got me thinking about Eureka. I was starting to think that it got quietly canceled.




edit: Are there any other good shows coming back for a summer run?
I just got a new DVR box (free for a whole year again) and had to reprogram everything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 10, 2010, 01:57:00 PM
Eureka's back. Oh man, what a great episode.

What!! were were all the ads? all I've seen advertised was Warehouse 13 and that got me thinking about Eureka. I was starting to think that it got quietly canceled.




edit: Are there any other good shows coming back for a summer run?
I just got a new DVR box (free for a whole year again) and had to reprogram everything.

Well, you already mentioned it, but Warehouse 13 is an enjoyable show returning for the Summer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on July 10, 2010, 02:02:23 PM
Eureka's back. Oh man, what a great episode.

What!!

I was just as surprised as you when I saw it listed yesterday on EZTV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2010, 04:00:50 PM
I've never watched Warehouse 13, but maybe I'll play some catch up on s1 and start s2 too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on July 15, 2010, 04:01:19 PM
Heroes Season 1:  3 Stars

I enjoyed it, but it started to get bogged down at the end as more and more characters were introduced that I really didn't care about.

I've heard that the other seasons aren't worth watching because the show quickly becomes a mess.  Is this true?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 15, 2010, 04:06:04 PM
Yes. Season 2 is virtually unwatchable, as is Season 3. I then completely tuned out, haven't looked back, and have't regretted it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2010, 04:10:01 PM
Heroes Season 1:  3 Stars

I enjoyed it, but it started to get bogged down at the end as more and more characters were introduced that I really didn't care about.

I've heard that the other seasons aren't worth watching because the show quickly becomes a mess.  Is this true?

It's not worth going any further if that's how you feel about s1. s2 is pointless and s3 isn't much better(until near the end, then it gets bad again at the end). s4 I finished only because I knew it had to end soon and wanted to see how they concluded it.

It was a show that had lots of potential in the beginning and then nosedived off a high cliff into a shallow pool.

In other words, don't bother, there are much better shows on TV to catch up on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 15, 2010, 04:19:59 PM
I have to echo everyone else's sentiments.  I watched the first 2.5 seasons of Heroes, and the first one is easily the best.   Then the show just plunges into the depths of Total Suck and never emerges again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 15, 2010, 04:33:48 PM
Just watched SGU Time. Holy hell that was brutal and is some of the best Sci-fi I have ever seen. I went back several times just to watch Chole die by bug. It's easily the strongest first season episode of any sci-fi. I would expect to see such a awesome episode at the end of a series.

The Rush/Eli combo continues to really carry the show through the rough spots like water/earth. I really like Greer.

It really is one of the best episodes Stargate, over the entire franchise, has produced.

The sad thing being that because its science fiction it's going to be ignored, and because its Stargate it's going to be avoided, so no emmies or awards.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 15, 2010, 08:54:20 PM
The same thing happened with the different Star Trek series. There were several episodes (especially TNG) that were worthy of awards, but didn't get them (people were shocked when the final season of TNG had several Emmy nominees, mainly because it was a syndicated show). The Stargate franchise has existed for over 15 years, but barely gets any mainstream attention.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 17, 2010, 06:43:39 PM
I am only through disc 2, but I am watching the first season of the current Doctor Who series. The episodes are not that bad, but I can't stand Christopher Eccleston as the Doctor, David Tennant was so much better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on July 18, 2010, 02:48:49 PM
Heroes was originally designed to be a one season story.  That is why the first season is good and the show drops like a rock right after.

Once it became super popular the studio basically forced it to keep going.  I read that the writers wanted to come up with a new group of Heroes for season 2  but the studio basically said "No, people like these characters so find a way to use them again."

This really helps you understand why season 2 was so ****ty Peter was supposed to die.  Sylar was supposed to die.  Peter's brother was supposed to die.  Instead in season two they need to "explain" how everyone miraculously survived and they need to find ways  to depower both Sylar and Peter because they are invincible as well as write in the other characters in whatever way possible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 26, 2010, 04:52:42 AM
True Blood s3

The Cliffhanger endings with the scene skip continuations are really killing this show for me.
It's still very entertaining, but I HATE how they have a huge build up cliffhanger ending to each episode, and then the conflict is over and everyone is onto the next scene when the next episode starts.

It so fucking annoying. I wish they would quit it and stop cutting all the action.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on July 26, 2010, 11:03:25 AM
Yeah cliffhangers can be quite annoying. A lot of TV shows now are like that. It's pathetic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 26, 2010, 11:17:32 AM
I don't mind cliffhangers too much (although I feel like killing network executives that cancel a show that ends on a cliffhanger and don't let them to a episode that concludes it). On a tangent, I hate the trend of shows to split up into two mini-seasons (i.e. South Park having one half in the spring and the other half in the fall, or Glee having the first half from September to November and having the second half from April to June).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 26, 2010, 11:30:18 AM
It's not the cliffhanger ending that bother me, it's the scene skip continuations that do.

Sookie is in a Werebar and everyone is transforming including her friend that tells her to get out NOW!!! episode ends.
The following week, they are safely back at his house or driving to his house in the car.
WTF happened at the bar? How did they get out? Why isn't he transformed anymore? Where is that 2-5 minute scene that explains shows what happened between last week and now?

You can't cliff hang just before an action scene and then continue the next episode after the action scene you never shot. Thats Bullshit.
They've done it to every single episode this season so far and I HATE it. It needs to stop, it's ruining the flow of the show for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 26, 2010, 12:57:46 PM
From what I have seen, most of the time that is done when the writers don't want to have to figure out a good way to resolve the situation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 02, 2010, 09:53:28 PM
Almost done with King of the Hill on Netflix. What a ridiculously good show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 02, 2010, 10:17:48 PM
Too bad you can only watch a small amount of the episodes on Netflix. The show was on for 13 seasons but Fox has only released the first six on DVD, the last release being back in May 2006 (season six included a flyer advertising season 7 on DVD, but Fox stopped due to low DVD sales). Cartoon Network airs two episodes every night on their Adult Swim programming block though.

I loved the show and was disappointed when Fox canceled it, I hoped another network would pick it up but I guess it was just too expensive since it was gonna be the 14th season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 02, 2010, 10:32:39 PM
The whole series is available on Netflix Instant, even the seasons not out on DVD.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 03, 2010, 03:04:13 AM
Sherlock 8/10.

If you've seen the recent Robert Downey Jr movie, this is NOTHING like that. Even though its a unbelievably short season at 3 episodes, each one is 90 mins each giving you enough time to get soaked into the story. Benedic Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman work great together to product such a subtle attraction between their chararcters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 03, 2010, 09:56:45 AM
The whole series is available on Netflix Instant, even the seasons not out on DVD.

Really? I guess Fox figured it costs them $0 to put them up on Netflix and they apparently have no interest in releasing the last 7 seasons on DVD, so why not put them up for streaming.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 04, 2010, 12:58:45 AM
Yep, the entire series is up on Netflix. It's amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 04, 2010, 01:17:03 AM
That's one of the great things about Netflix Instant. They also have the show Coach, a personal favorite of mine, in its entirety, despite only the first three seasons being available on DVD.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 04, 2010, 02:06:55 PM
And yet they only have the first two seasons of Dexter available for instant viewing.  :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 04, 2010, 04:07:46 PM
Because the studio that owns the show actually has interest in releasing it on DVD still. Fox and Universal have no interest in doing the same for KotH and Coach.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 04, 2010, 04:19:41 PM
Don't talk to me like I don't know why the latter seasons aren't available for instant viewing.  I didn't ask a question.

I'm just complaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 04, 2010, 05:19:39 PM
1st Season of Justice League (animated): Goddamn/10

Great show. Worthy successor to the Batman & Superman shows, and better than Batman Beyond. Flash is a player and Batman's a dick. It's so great!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 04, 2010, 05:51:23 PM
Justice League took Batman's awesomeness to hilarious levels.  Say there were a bunch of robots attacking.  On Super Friends, Superman would punch dozens of them to pieces, and then Batman, with Robin, would use some gadget to knock just one over.  On Justice League, Superman would punch one to pieces, then look up to find Batman had disabled the rest already.  And then turned them on their creator.  And discovered free energy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 04, 2010, 07:00:35 PM
I loved Justice League, the show got even better as time went on (like the episodes that crossed over into Batman Beyond). Some of my favorite episodes was the one where an alternate universe of the Justice League was formed after The Flash died, and they used their powers to basically become rulers of Earth. And in the episode "Injustice for All", Batman shows he can be a mack when he wants to when he got Cheetah to turn on Luthor and kissed him.

I also loved the moment when the Justice League was forced to go into hiding after Hawkgirl turned on them when hr people invaded Earth, they had to get rid of their costumes (Flash was reluctant to reveal his identity, but then Batman proceeded to reveal all of their real names, including his own).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 06, 2010, 04:06:46 AM
I've been watching 30 Rock on Hulu Plus lately. I just started the 4th season, and the show's writing just keeps getting better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 06, 2010, 05:27:35 PM
the show's writing just keeps getting better.

Really?  I thought season 3 went downhill a bit after they started doing celebrity guest spots every week.  Still totally worth watching, but not as funny as the first season.

For what it's worth, I thought the Muppet scene (the world as viewed through Kenneth's eyes) is about the funniest thing I've ever seen on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 06, 2010, 05:37:39 PM
I'm fine with and actually like the constant guest appearances for the same reason I like the product placement: they're so blatant about it and go out of the way to make it seem forced that it becomes funny in and of itself. And when I praised the writing, it was mostly about the writing for Tracy. He's gotten a lot funnier over the last season I've watched; that's not to say he wasn't funny before, but they've really got a good handle on his character at this point.

The show is very good with what I think is one of the best ways to structure a TV joke: setting you up for what seems like a predictable line, and then giving you something different. Predictability is usually, in my opinion, a good indicator of the quality of a show; the less predictable it is, the better, at least to a certain point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 08, 2010, 08:14:40 PM
I need some help deciding what to watch next.

Finished the first two seasons of Dexter (and the more recent ones aren't on Netflix Instant View).  Finished all of Lost.  Finished all but the last season of 24 (which isn't out yet).  Finished the first season of Heroes (and no interest in the other seasons).  Slowly making my way through The X Files.

What should I watch next?  Something preferably available on Netflix Instant View.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 08, 2010, 08:23:58 PM
Not sure if you are into the series, but I would suggest Doctor Who. The first four seasons of the current series are all available for instant streaming (along with all of the TV specials from those four seasons, except the special that had concluded David Tennant's run as the Tenth Doctor and being regenerated into the Eleventh Doctor). I didn't really like the first season that much as I didn't like Christoper Eccleston as the Ninth Doctor, but even those aren't bad. The fifth season only just ended in the UK in June, so it's not available yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 08, 2010, 08:34:56 PM
What should I watch next?

Supernatural.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 08, 2010, 11:59:16 PM
Christopher Eccleston wasn't that bad and another season from him would have been alright, but if it meant sacrificing a season of David, then no. But David gets the weakest companion of the new series, Martha Jones. Just plain boring.

Go watch it and see something that isn't made in North America.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2010, 12:55:08 AM
I need some help deciding what to watch next.

Finished the first two seasons of Dexter (and the more recent ones aren't on Netflix Instant View).  Finished all of Lost.  Finished all but the last season of 24 (which isn't out yet).  Finished the first season of Heroes (and no interest in the other seasons).  Slowly making my way through The X Files.

What should I watch next?  Something preferably available on Netflix Instant View.

Finish Dexter.

Check your PM's.


What should I watch next?

Supernatural.

That is next in my queue after I finish 6 Feet Under.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 09, 2010, 10:06:14 AM
Christopher Eccleston wasn't that bad and another season from him would have been alright, but if it meant sacrificing a season of David, then no. But David gets the weakest companion of the new series, Martha Jones. Just plain boring.

Go watch it and see something that isn't made in North America.

I will admit that Eccleston got better as the season went along. I have to disagree on Marth though, I thought she was a good companion (not as good as Rose or Captain Jack, but slightly better than Donna; I won't get into the companions he only had for one or two episodes). I loved the season 4 two-part finale ("The Stolen Earth"/"Journey's End") that had the Doctor united with the Children of Time to stop Davros and the New Dalek Empire.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 09, 2010, 12:24:44 PM
Donna is far and above the best companion simply because of the actress.

She's primarily a comedian and i thought that she couldn't act for poo. Her show was never funny and was usually based on repetition and shouting. There were elements of that in Who but when her character settled into the emotionally-driven (like in Silence in the Library & Forest of the Dead and Planet of the Ood) she really came into her own. The other companions bar Jack (ignoring Amy) weren't like that. Martha's blank stares didn't work for me a lot of the time.

To me she proved the actress has her chops. Rose and Martha... not so much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 09, 2010, 12:35:49 PM
She may have been a good actress, but I didn't like her as a companion. Her voice was annoying (and she liked to talk a lot). Martha's stares were something I liked, and were never there for reason. Both Rose and Martha did improve over time, even more so when they came back after leaving the Doctor (Rose especially was great when she came back late in season 4).

The one time companions (mainly used for the TV specials, although they have had ones like Adam Mitchell; Adam was a companion to the Ninth Doctor for two episodes, he got kicked out of the TARDIS after the Doctor caught him trying to use future technology to help him and his family back in the present) have been pretty good and likeable. I think Jackson Lake would have been a pretty good Doctor (he was in the special "The Next Doctor".) I didn't like Michelle Ryan's character though, she was the Doctor's companion in the mediocre "Planet of the Dead" special.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on August 09, 2010, 12:46:56 PM
The IT Crowd - 5x2 out of 100/10

Fantastic show.  Hilarious characters, dialog, settings, etc..  everything!  My only disappointment is that each season is very short.  I wish there was more!

Although quite the normal person, Jen is very very odd.  And I love this about her. There's almost a bit of sexiness because of it.  I think the funniest/best episode thus far was definitely when they went to go see the "gay" theater play called.. well, "Gay!" Hah.  Every moment had some sort of comedic bit that I just could not stop laughing.  My jaws hurt so much by the time the episode was over.  Too hysterical. I love it.

And Moss? Oh man, Moss is great. Probably the most unique character I have ever seen in a tv show/movie EVER. He's phenomenal at his part.

There are only three seasons out so far, right?  Because I want more. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 09, 2010, 01:34:42 PM
It's run for 4 "seasons" so far (the fourth season just ended last week, so of coarse it is not up on Netflix yet), and a fifth and sixth season have been confirmed. I put "seasons" in quotations because each one is only six episodes, I have no idea why UK shows love to have seasons that are less than 10 episodes. This is odd to me because even a 13 episode season here is considered short. Standard TV seasons are between 20-25 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 09, 2010, 01:36:07 PM
God, I hated that show. My wife and I watched the entire first disk of season 1 and found the comedy to be way too broad, as is the case with many British comedies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 09, 2010, 04:24:39 PM
It's run for 4 "seasons" so far (the fourth season just ended last week, so of coarse it is not up on Netflix yet), and a fifth and sixth season have been confirmed. I put "seasons" in quotations because each one is only six episodes, I have no idea why UK shows love to have seasons that are less than 10 episodes. This is odd to me because even a 13 episode season here is considered short. Standard TV seasons are between 20-25 episodes.

Because we prefer short taught seasons rather than long drawn out ones. Plus we don't have a "TV season" that starts in september, so the budget means new shows all year around. Doctor Who is arguably the longest at 14 episodes a year.

On that note:

Sherlock 9/10. It's a THREE episode season at 90 mins each, but wow the finale was fantastic. Moriarty was so campified yet so entertaining to watch. I'm looking forward to seeing it come back next year for a slightly longer run.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 09, 2010, 04:47:16 PM
I don't think I could accept a show I like being so short. So what is the general opinion on most US shows that air over there (I have no idea how long other countries TV shows are)? Very few shows I like feel like they would be better with fewer episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 09, 2010, 05:39:55 PM
I don't think I could accept a show I like being so short. So what is the general opinion on most US shows that air over there (I have no idea how long other countries TV shows are)? Very few shows I like feel like they would be better with fewer episodes.

Most people i know tend to thing that most american seasons run too long. Heroes season 1, for instance, would have been perfect IMO if it was chopped from 24 (or 26?) episodes to 15.
CSI is too long at 24. 24 was too long, but the format of the show requires it. Stargate is too long at 20 and can safely be cut to 15. There's nearly always four or five filler eps which normally wouldn't happen if it was just a shorter season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on August 09, 2010, 05:49:15 PM
I can see how that would make you crave a show more -- especially if the writing is really phenomenal.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 09, 2010, 07:54:36 PM
Tried watching Dr. Who but was forced to turn it off after about 6 minutes.  OMG was it bad.  Some girl who needs acting classes gets attacked by living mannequins and then is rescued by some random dude?  Does it get any better?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 09, 2010, 08:56:31 PM
Yes, you are describing episode 1 of season 1 of the current series. That season gets better over time (the girl is Rose Taylor, who is the Doctor's companion for the first two seasons), and the series becomes vastly superior when David Tennant becomes the Doctor in season 2. I think seasons 2 & 3 are the best (I haven't seen season 5 yet because it is still airing in the UK I think).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 09, 2010, 11:11:30 PM
The IT Crowd - 5x2 out of 100/10

Moss, and Denholm are my favorite characters from The IT Crowd.

God, I hated that show. My wife and I watched the entire first disk of season 1 and found the comedy to be way too broad, as is the case with many British comedies.

Because The Big Bang Theory is so much better.

a fifth and sixth season [for The IT Crowd] have been confirmed.

Where did you read about this?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on August 10, 2010, 12:18:17 AM
My only disappointment is that each season is very short.  I wish there was more!

They do this with almost all UK TV shows. It's frustrating, but most of the time it's more quality over quantity type situation. I mean there's only 12 episodes of the UK version ofThe Office and that's was one of the most popular comedies of its time. It's short, but it's damn near perfect. Hell, Fawlty towers only has 12 episodes too and it's one of the greatest shows of all-time.

I guess this frustrating and annoying system they have prevents what happens with a lot of US comedies, where they keep dragging on and continually decline in quality. An example being the US version The Office, they should have culled it after Season 4.

God, I hated that show.
found the comedy to be way too broad,
as is the case with many British comedies.

Coming from an American this is lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 10, 2010, 12:24:40 AM
I have seen typical British "humor", and I can't believe that it is supposed to be funny (different people have different tastes I suppose). I don't  get why people find Ricky Gervais funny. I personally think everything of his I have seen has sucked, whether it is The Office (both US and UK versions) or even the episode of The Simpsons that he wrote and guest starred in (which is my least favorite episode of the series and one of the very few episodes I don't like).

Caliban, the show's creator announced it back in May during the preview screening for season 4 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/may/26/it-crowd-fifth-series (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/may/26/it-crowd-fifth-series)).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 10, 2010, 12:40:30 AM
Thanks TJ.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 10, 2010, 02:03:38 AM
Now now. There are some British shows I love, including "Are You Being Served" and "Fawlty Towers." Monty Python anything, really anything involving John Cleese. Look, there's a huge difference between the comedy of those older shows and The IT Crowd or Black Books (another show we tried and hated).

And yes, big Bang Theory is much funnier.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 10, 2010, 02:12:11 AM
What? No Harry and Paul? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKCAGb6Pzcg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKCAGb6Pzcg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 10, 2010, 07:35:39 AM
Yes, you are describing episode 1 of season 1 of the current series. That season gets better over time (the girl is Rose Taylor, who is the Doctor's companion for the first two seasons), and the series becomes vastly superior when David Tennant becomes the Doctor in season 2. I think seasons 2 & 3 are the best (I haven't seen season 5 yet because it is still airing in the UK I think).

Season 5 finished airing in June.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 10, 2010, 11:01:16 AM
Coming from an American this is lol.

Yes, a ton of American sitcoms are extremely broad, but usually not the ones considered to be "good" by people who claim to have refined tastes. Anyway, the idea that British comedy is so much subtler and smarter than American comedy as a whole is pretty overblown. Even Simon Pegg agrees: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2007/feb/10/comedy.television
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on August 10, 2010, 12:26:07 PM
Look, there's a huge difference between the comedy of those older shows and The IT Crowd or Black Books (another show we tried and hated).

Not really. Well not as much as you seem to be implying.

Quote
And yes, big Bang Theory is much funnier.

Despite hating both shows, TBBT is the lesser of the two.

Coming from an American this is lol.

Yes, a ton of American sitcoms are extremely broad, but usually not the ones considered to be "good" by people who claim to have refined tastes. Anyway, the idea that British comedy is so much subtler and smarter than American comedy as a whole is pretty overblown. Even Simon Pegg agrees: http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2007/feb/10/comedy.television

That article doesn't really say that at all. Basically he's saying despite the differences between the two styles of comedy some of the same jokes/situations/emotions can evoke the same reaction on both sides. He also goes on in length to essentially say that it's a fallacy that "Americans don't get irony", which is, of course, rubbish. It's just most UK humour relies on irony far more heavily than American humour.

There's obviously differences between US and UK comedy shows, to say there's not is stupid. Hell, the IT Crowd and The Big Bang Theory (both of which I greatly dislike) are essentially the same show told from each side of the Atlantic. US comedy is far more in your face, while Uk comedy is more subtle. It's just how it is. Which is better? To each his own, I guess.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 10, 2010, 01:32:14 PM
In the very first episode of IT Crowd, the one guy has a head wound for half the episode that he's unaware of but everyone else is. Ironic? Sure. Subtle? Not at all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on August 10, 2010, 11:09:59 PM
Yes, yes. I'm sure we can all show specific examples within specific shows that are exceptions, but it doesn't really change anything on a larger scale, does it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 11, 2010, 10:36:15 AM
There's obviously differences between US and UK comedy shows, to say there's not is stupid. Hell, the IT Crowd and The Big Bang Theory (both of which I greatly dislike) are essentially the same show told from each side of the Atlantic. US comedy is far more in your face, while Uk comedy is more subtle. It's just how it is. Which is better? To each his own, I guess.

I'd agree with that, I just wouldn't say either is intrinsically "smarter" than the other.


But I guess this whole argument was about "broadness", which I took to mean "stupidness" but I guess that's not really what it means, so never mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: blackfootsteps on August 12, 2010, 07:25:45 PM
I have seen typical British "humor", and I can't believe that it is supposed to be funny (different people have different tastes I suppose). I don't  get why people find Ricky Gervais funny. I personally think everything of his I have seen has sucked, whether it is The Office (both US and UK versions) or even the episode of The Simpsons that he wrote and guest starred in (which is my least favorite episode of the series and one of the very few episodes I don't like).

This upsets me greatly. I personally loved both Office and Extras but feel the standups and the podcast with Steve and the half-human half-godape Karl are the greatest things he's done. Although Karl deserves 90% of the credit for the podcasts.

A show for anyone who loves British humour is Plus One. 5 episodes only, but very clever, incredibly awkward, cringeworthy laughs abound. Pandas in negative have never been so funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 13, 2010, 05:58:30 AM
Seeing as everyone is all "british humour is x" right now, i highly suggest everyone go see Sherlock. It's Sherlock Holmes (as based on the books), but based in 2010 and the lead character is probably more socially inept than House.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 13, 2010, 03:57:30 PM
Yeah the animated version of the Ricky Gervais show is brilliant (the two episodes I've seen, anyway.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 13, 2010, 04:31:37 PM
Yeah, it's very good. Karl Pilkington makes that show, of course.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 16, 2010, 03:10:56 AM
I've been keeping up with the 2nd Season of Warehouse 13, and overall it's been a pretty good season despite some visible wheel spinning as the show doesn't seem terribly interested in actually pursuing the plot arc established in the premier.  Considering this season's only 9 episodes long and episode 7 aires on Tuesday, that's not encouraging.  Still, the cast is as solid as ever, the special effects are marginally better than they were last year, and the writers seem to have gotten more comfortable writing for this show (despite the last episode being horrifically bad by focusing on Pete going crazy due to an artifact).

Something worth noting is the recent Warehouse 13/Eureka crossover week, where Fargo from Eureka guest starred on Warehouse 13 and Claudia guest starred on Eureka.  Interesting, the Warehouse 13 episode with Fargo was by far the better of the two.  The idea of crossover episodes is to introduce new fans to a show they potentially have never seen before, show how cool this "new" show is, and give the crossover character something interesting to do to represent their show.  The Warehouse 13 episode did that just fine as a standalone episode that highlighted what the show was and had some great moments.  Fargo even had some stand-out moments when Artie wasn't hilariously insulting him (as he does all young people who come into his warehouse and start messing with stuff).  The Eureka episode, on the other hand, was hard to get into because it seemed like an episode actually steeped in the story of the show, which didn't give people like me who had never seen the show a reference point to get into the story and know the characters.  Plus, Claudia didn't do jack in the episode except flirt and eventually make-out with Fargo (in a minefield, no less), which is stupid considering she's probably the second most competent character on Warehouse 13 (right after Artie).  Overall, I am interested in seeing Eureka now, but that episode was just written very sloppily in terms of being a crossover.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 16, 2010, 10:11:59 AM
The newest season of Eureka has been so-so. I like it, but not as much as the first 3 seasons. It's because they're stranded in an alternate Earth, so to me all the episodes they've done so far are just pointless even if they ever find a chance to come back.

Claudia's hot by the way. It was the first time I saw her because I don't watch warehouse 13.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 16, 2010, 04:51:22 PM
The fact that so much of the plot of Eureka this season is dependent on the aftermath of accidental time travel made it a really bad time for the crossover.  Even the Warehouse 13 episode would have made more sense last season, when Fargo was still the lowly gofer they would have sent on an errand like that.

I've enjoyed this season of Eureka so far, though.  Among other things, the big mix-up let the writers freshen the romantic tension between Carter and Allison again, added a capable new rival for her affections, gave Fargo even more opportunity to get into trouble as well as opportunity to grow as a character, and once more made things difficult for Henry so that he isn't just the boring "fix everything" guy.  This show could easily end up in a rut of "guest star scientist's invention goes wrong, then Carter uses everyman logic and selfless heroism to save the day with Henry's counter-invention," so I welcome the changes, especially compared to the horrendous product placement season.  Also, despite how crazy and loose the "science" on the show usually is, this was probably one of the better handled time travel scenarios I've seen on TV SciFi.  If for no other reason than because it didn't work like a cosmic reset button after they wrote themselves into a corner.

Warehouse 13 has been more of the same this season, which I guess isn't so bad.  For some reason, the idea of seemingly normal objects having strange powers really appeals to me.  That probably colors my reaction to the show a bit rosier than it would be otherwise.  The season premiere's bad guy switch seemed unnecessary to me, though, especially since the new villain hasn't done anything yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 16, 2010, 07:36:37 PM
The wife and I just started watching Eureka through the magic of Netflix. Good show, but I wish there was some eye candy. Allison needs to eat an entire cow and the redhead is...I mean, she's clearly SUPPOSED to be the eye candy, but she's not doing it for me.

I like that the show often takes plotlines from something like Star Trek (sometimes blatently) but the Earthbound cast is able to make a whole different show out of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 16, 2010, 10:42:58 PM
Allison needs to eat an entire cow

Go play Soul Calibur, or something.

and the redhead is...I mean, she's clearly SUPPOSED to be the eye candy, but she's not doing it for me.

Redhead? This actress (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0628120/)?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 17, 2010, 12:08:38 AM
No, the therapist spy woman. I know that not all shows can have Christina Hendricks, but...you know...why not?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 17, 2010, 01:01:20 AM
Oh I remember now. I figured you were talking about the latest season. My bad. She's old, but she's hot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Barrett on August 17, 2010, 07:10:15 AM
breaking bad 8/10
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 18, 2010, 11:55:10 AM
I'm partially through the first season of Eureka, and so far I like the show but it feels very rough so far.  It can't seem to make up its mind whether it wants to be a lighter action/comedy like Warehouse 13, or a more serious (though factually goofy) pseudo-science mystery series like Fringe.  The characters are really hit or miss with me: Although I like most of the characters, Allison and the therapist/enigmatic spy just bug me.  I'm already sick of the cheap SyFy-grade "sexual tension" between Carter and Allison, and I was sick of the therapist by the second episode (seriously, she's not being particularly subtle about what she's doing).  You'd think someone would be able to add 2 + 2 and follow the trail of bodies and unexplained events to her.  I wish Warehouse 13 had this show's special effects budget, though.
 
I was looking into the DVDs, though, and a local Best Buy has the first season on sale for $10.  I'll pick it up later today.  I wish it were on Blu Ray instead of DVD, but whatever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 18, 2010, 12:04:25 PM
I wish it were on Blu Ray instead of DVD, but whatever.

Ditto, but I will wait. I just know it's bound to happen. I was so pissed off when Rome was released on Blu Ray because I have the DVDs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 18, 2010, 01:16:34 PM
The sexual tension between Allison & Carter continue throughout the entire season, and it's still going on in season 2 (which I'm watching).

Season 2 is not as good as season 1.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 18, 2010, 01:37:20 PM
The sexual tension between Allison & Carter continue throughout the entire season, and it's still going on in season 2 (which I'm watching).

Oh joy.  I wouldn't mind the romance angle if the writers weren't constantly trying to bash us over the head with it with increasingly contrived situations.  The episode where the two "accidentally" fall asleep in the same bed with Allison's purse "accidentally" left out on the couch just had me rolling my eyes.
 
On the flipside, though, I do enjoy the little comedy bits with Carter's experimental home.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 18, 2010, 02:49:28 PM
You get breaks from the UST occasionally when one or the other gets into a temporary relationship, but no TV writer in existence can resist will-they-or-won't-they romantic subplots.  Or at least no TV producer is willing to let any TV writer avoid them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 21, 2010, 06:49:49 AM
I know this is random, but "In The Pale Moonlight" is one of the darkest DS9 episodes they ever made  - and for that reason one of the best in the franchise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2010, 01:23:58 PM
I know this is random, but "In The Pale Moonlight" is one of the darkest DS9 episodes they ever made  - and for that reason one of the best in the franchise.

That's my favorite episode of the series. It's a great story with a great twist.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 21, 2010, 03:58:08 PM
I know this is random, but "In The Pale Moonlight" is one of the darkest DS9 episodes they ever made  - and for that reason one of the best in the franchise.

That's my favorite episode of the series. It's a great story with a great twist.

It really is. It's no surprise that a lot of my favourite Trek episodes come from DS9. I still feel that even though the show ended eleven years ago its still one of the few sci-fi shows with a heavily developed range of characters both permanent and recurring. There's never been a character quite like Garak since.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 21, 2010, 04:31:22 PM
I wish Spike still aired Star Trek, they used to air TNG, DS9, and VOY. They stopped that though when they decided to air like 6 hours of CSI every day. DS9 is my favorite series of Trek and they did a phenomenal job with the multi-season Dominion War arc.

I don't know if I would call "In the Pale Moonlight" my favorite episode, but it is up there. Sisko knowing that he was responsible for Garak killing that Romulan senator (because Garak knew that the senator wouldn't believe the forged data rod) i order to convince them  to end their non-aggression pact with the Dominion and join the Federation Alliance. The ending is great too when Sisko admits that he would do it all again as he was getting tired of having to post casualty lists of thousands of people every week and is willing to do anything to end the war. One of my favorite quotes from the episode is Sisko quoting his father about "the road to hell is paved with good intentions. I laid the first stone right there."

This makes me wish that Paramount would go back to the real timeline rather that this alternate timeline created in the 11th and 12th movies. I especially want to see how the destruction of Romulus and Remus changed things, especially since the major powers (Federation, Klingons, Cardassians, and Romulans) were still recovering from the Dominion War. I was thinking that maybe the movies could focus on that alternate timeline while Paramount could launch a new TV show that would focus on the normal timeline.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 21, 2010, 11:25:41 PM
Which one is "Pale Moonlight?"

My favorite DS9 episode was the one where Sisko was trapped in the 1920's or something, and Ben was trying to get him back. That was cool.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 22, 2010, 12:08:50 AM
Brief description of "In the Pale Moonlight":

The Dominion War is going badly for the Federation Alliance. A ship that has a close friend of Dax's was destroyed by a Dominion ship that traveled through Romulan territory, something that was happening more and more since the Dominion and the Romulan Star Empire signed a non-aggression treaty (something several other species have done in order to avoid war). Sisko is determined to stop this and realizes that the only way to do that is to get the Romulans to join the war on the side of the Alliance. Sisko talks to Garak to have Garak use his few remaining contacts on Cardassia Prime to provide proof that the Dominion plans to invade Romulan space. A problem happens when all of Garak's contacts get killed less than a day after talking to him. Sisko and Garak decide to fake the evidence. Sisko calls in a favor to Chancellor Gowron to have a convicted criminal pardoned rather than be executed because Garak plans to have him create a data rod (basically a future version of a flash drive) that shows a security video of Weyounn and Damar planning a invasion of Romulus. Sisko convinces a influential Romulan senator to come to DS9 after meeting with the Dominion and view the recording. After the senator examines the data rod though, he realizes that it is a fake and tells Sisko that he plans to tell the Romulan Senate. As his shuttle is leaving though it blows up. When Sisko talks to Garak, Sisko realizes that Garak planned it. Garak said that he hoped that the data rod would be to fool him, but had a back-up plan just in-case. He planned that the ship would be blown up after leaving DS9, the Romulans would find the data rod in the debris and assume that the Dominion blew up the ship to prevent the evidence of the invasion from getting back to Romulus (with Garak saying that the Romulans would think that any flaws with the data rod would be blamed on the explosion). Sisko's plan worked and the Romulans entered the war on the side of the Alliance. The entire episode was told as a log entry by Sisko, with him struggling to cope with what he did under the gist that the end justifies the means. Sisko then admits that he would still do it again, then deletes the entire log.

Hal, I am not sure which episode you are talking about as that doesn't sound like any episode I have seen. I am trying to think of some. There are a couple of episodes involving "Benny Russell". Benny was a science-fiction writer in the 1950s. All of the DS9 regulars (including the actors who played Martok, Dukat, and Damar, among others) play characters in this world, letting us see what they look like out of make-up. The only time travel episode I can recall is the two-part episodes "Past Tense (Part I)" and "Past Tense (Part II)"  when Sisko, Dax, and Bashir end up in 2024 San Francisco and Sisko ends up having to replace Gabrielle Bell, a man who helped end massive riots and led to closing of the Sanctuary Disrticts (basically ghettos were mentally ill people, violent people, and homeless people, were all forced to live because the government had given up trying to help them) after people became outraged at what was happening in them and forced the government to pass real reforms. This was funny because Sisko's image replaced Bell's in history books and would be mentioned a few seasons later when Sisko got a visit from Temporal Investigations in "Trials and Tribble-ations".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 22, 2010, 12:56:34 PM
Just finished the first two seasons of Eureka, and eh...it's ok.  The cast is excellent, the special effects are serviceable, and there is a good sense of fun to the series.  Unfortunately, the series seems so far to be in love with "everyone in Eureka is acting strange"-type plots, which gets old really fast.  Sometimes on top of the "everyone is acting strange" plot, they also toss in the "people are getting sick" plot, which is my most despised Television plot.  Seriously, does anyone take episodes where everyone's getting sick of some illness seriously?  We all know nothing of any consequence will happen, because the hero always shows up in the nick of time with the magic cure that makes everyone better.  Just once, I'd like to see someone important actually die in a "sick" episode.  And you already know my issues with this show and its habit of pandering with sexual innuendo.

I have Seasons 3 and (what's been aired of) 4 to watch now, but so far I've been enjoying the show despite its issues.  I just hope they start using some new material instead of seemingly-endlessly remixing the same stories that Star Trek already beat to death years ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 22, 2010, 01:40:35 PM
The episode that Halbred is referring to is called Far Beyond The Stars.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 22, 2010, 01:42:51 PM
That was a good one too, though they were pretty much all good ones. I'd be hard pressed to come up with more than a few I'd call bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 22, 2010, 02:31:01 PM
I didn't care for the first season of DS9 (although there are some good episodes in it), but that is really true for all of the Trek series as the actors are still getting used to the roles and the writers are still adjusting too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 22, 2010, 02:41:39 PM
The only episode I can think of off the top of my head that I didn't like was the second of the three Lwaxana Troi episodes (the one where she's having all kinds of wacky effects on people's personalities and love lives). Considering how awful I found her character to be on TNG, though, it's a testament to the amazing quality of DS9's writing that they managed to make her not just bearable, but genuinely interesting, twice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 22, 2010, 05:10:38 PM
I agree with that too. Characters like Lwaxana, Rom/Nog, Garak and Dukat are all very much recurring (Garak and Dukat being almost semi-permanent mainly due to the actors nailing it and the characters being such a hit) but they were nicely developed out as time went on.

What i did notice was how Voyager really doesn't hold up to scrutiny on repeat viewings. Endgame I and II are particularly weak compared against What You Leave Behind and the 10-part serial beforehand.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 22, 2010, 08:48:05 PM
"Year of Hell" was awful television. It was two episodes of awesome followed by "oh, it was just a dream (sorta)."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 22, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
While I agree that reset devices are terrible on TV (basically saying that the audience wasted their time as nothing happened with the characters), the actual two episodes were pretty good in my opinion.

Hal, what do you think of the episode "Living Witness", which takes place 700 years in the future and doesn't  technically feature any of the characters? If you don't remember that episode based on the title, it's the one where a backup copy of the Doctor is activated 700 years in the future and basically has to correct what this alien species actually think Voyager did. The actual Doctor is not in the episode (it's just a backup of his program and has his memories) and the other characters are only represented by holograms in this holodeck recreation, so technically none of the characters appears ad it has no effect on the series (as it takes place hundreds of years i the future).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 23, 2010, 12:05:00 AM
I do remember that one, I think. Is that the episode where he gets his portable holo-emitter?

And I'll agree that "The Year of Hell" was actually pretty awesome, but I don't care how awesome something is if it ends in a dream sequence because the writers wrote themselves into a corner. As for "Living Witnesses," I like that premise because it's essentially archaeology.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2010, 07:22:20 AM
I do remember that one, I think. Is that the episode where he gets his portable holo-emitter?

And I'll agree that "The Year of Hell" was actually pretty awesome, but I don't care how awesome something is if it ends in a dream sequence because the writers wrote themselves into a corner. As for "Living Witnesses," I like that premise because it's essentially archaeology.

I liked the Year of Hell for what it did but ultimately the episode is now unwatchable because it means nothing to the characters or the story or anything. Skip right past it and you miss nothing. You learn only character moments and background history. The only people who may have been aware of the events of the episode was the Temporal Section of Starfleet. Which leads on nicely, because..

"Relativity" was a good episode because even though it sort of features a reset button Seven and Janeway are not allowed to talk about their experiences due to the Temporal Prime Directive they are both aware of it and its a good romp into past events and their own previous experiences.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 10:03:51 AM
How about something like "The Visitor" on Deep Space 9? I'd say it's one of the most emotionally powerful episodes of any Star Trek, but it gets reset at the end and nobody remembers what happened.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Well,

Hal, the Doctor got his mobile emitter in the two-part episode "Future's End". Voyager ended up in 1996 Los Angeles and had to stop this man, Henry Starling, from using a 29th century starship (that he had stolen from the guy who crashed it) from going to the future to get technology and bring it back to the 20th century for profit (the storyline established that he had used technology from the future to basically invent every bit of computer technology we currently use, like microchips). At one point Starling managed to copy some stuff from Voyager's database, including the Doctor's program. He gave the mobile emitter to the Doctor and at the end of the episode the Doctor kept it.

Although the episode may not have affected the characters on Voyager, it was not quite a total reset device because it did affect the Krenim by undoing all changes that the temporal ship had done (including giving Annorax his wife back). Also, Kurtwood Smith is a great actor and it was nice seeing him.

insanolord, not quite. Captain Sisko remembers what happened.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2010, 12:31:25 PM
How about something like "The Visitor" on Deep Space 9? I'd say it's one of the most emotionally powerful episodes of any Star Trek, but it gets reset at the end and nobody remembers what happened.

That episode easily is the best of any Star Trek (including the movies), and yes it had a reset button, but Sisko remembers the experiences and the purpose of the episode at the end really is to solidify Jake and Ben's relationship.

The Year of Hell didn't have a character-aimed focus, but ultimately cancels out any and all forward momentum it created by blowing up the ship.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
"The Visitor" is great, but to me it loses some of it's effect by being a DS9 episode, in the sense that the whole series is so great and because of that it doesn't stand out as much. On the flip side of that, I think I give "The City on the Edge of Forever" a little too much credit because of how much better it is than any other TOS episode, and any other episode of any TV series of that era.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 12:47:35 PM
How about something like "The Visitor" on Deep Space 9? I'd say it's one of the most emotionally powerful episodes of any Star Trek, but it gets reset at the end and nobody remembers what happened.

That episode easily is the best of any Star Trek (including the movies), and yes it had a reset button

I think "The Inner Light" from Star Trek: TNG (that's the one where Picard gets zapped by an alien gizmo and lives out a lifetime as another person, right?) might have to disagree with you there.  "All Good Things" (the TNG series finale) and "Best of Both Worlds: Part 1" are also strong candidates for that honor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Seacor on August 23, 2010, 01:34:02 PM
I always enjoy watching TNG's Yesterday's Enterprise and is in my top list of TNG episodes.  This is the episode where a temporal rift twists up the current timeline when the 20+ year old Enterprise C (with Tasha Yar) emerges into the timeline. The federation is at war with the Klingon empire and is nearly defeated.

Tapestry is also another favorite. This is where Picard is near death and Q allows him to go back in time to relive a portion of his life as an Ensign.  I also agree that Best of Both Worlds and Inner Light are great episodes as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 23, 2010, 02:31:36 PM
I liked the Moriarty episode of TNG with the big twist ending. That was kind of mind-blowing the first time I saw it, and it holds up today. Moriarty was a great villain.

I also liked the episode of Voyager with the Borg "children" who were freed from the collective but kept being sent into space as a sort of ritualistic offering to keep the Borg off their lawns. That episode featured particularly good character development for Seven.

Actually, one of the most interesting aspects of the later Voyager episodes was the mentor/apprentice relationship between Seven and Janeway.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Art_de_Cat on August 23, 2010, 03:41:52 PM
I havent really kept up with many tv series lately. The last full one being aired on TV was Avatar The Last Airbender.  I do still enjoy watching Law & Order, and Full Metal Alchemist when I can catch it on Cartoon Network if it is still on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2010, 05:17:36 PM
How about something like "The Visitor" on Deep Space 9? I'd say it's one of the most emotionally powerful episodes of any Star Trek, but it gets reset at the end and nobody remembers what happened.

That episode easily is the best of any Star Trek (including the movies), and yes it had a reset button

I think "The Inner Light" from Star Trek: TNG (that's the one where Picard gets zapped by an alien gizmo and lives out a lifetime as another person, right?) might have to disagree with you there.  "All Good Things" (the TNG series finale) and "Best of Both Worlds: Part 1" are also strong candidates for that honor.

This will get me in hot water but Sisko was far better at gathering my attention. I don't want to degrade into X is better than Y but In The Pale Moonlight and his entire monologue is also a strong reason for why i like him so much.

TNG had great episodes too, but the story arc in DS9 set it apart from the other 4 series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
How about something like "The Visitor" on Deep Space 9? I'd say it's one of the most emotionally powerful episodes of any Star Trek, but it gets reset at the end and nobody remembers what happened.

That episode easily is the best of any Star Trek (including the movies), and yes it had a reset button

I think "The Inner Light" from Star Trek: TNG (that's the one where Picard gets zapped by an alien gizmo and lives out a lifetime as another person, right?) might have to disagree with you there.  "All Good Things" (the TNG series finale) and "Best of Both Worlds: Part 1" are also strong candidates for that honor.

This will get me in hot water but Sisko was far better at gathering my attention. I don't want to degrade into X is better than Y but In The Pale Moonlight and his entire monologue is also a strong reason for why i like him so much.

TNG had great episodes too, but the story arc in DS9 set it apart from the other 4 series.

I agree with that last sentence 100%. DS9's writing is way better than that of any of the other series on a much more consistent basis. I think the biggest problem with Voyager was that it was too much like TNG and not enough like DS9. A Voyager with the tone of DS9, showing the desperation of the situation they were in, trapped and alone in the Delta Quadrant, would have been so much better than the way they did it. Enterprise had that problem early on, but I think they struck the right balance in the third and especially the fourth seasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 06:05:59 PM
The big problem with DS9, though, is that the writers didn't start actually taking the Dominion War as something worth following till the 6th season, and they didn't really commit to it till the 7th.  Until then, the show just constantly flipped between caring about the Dominion War and focusing on the latest thingy of the week.  DS9 was a great show, but it took for-frickin'-EVER to get to the meat of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
If they'd focused on it more earlier on it would have been over too soon or stretched too thin. I think the way they did it was the best of both worlds, allowing them to have a core storyline, but also letting them do other things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 23, 2010, 07:54:09 PM
The big problem with DS9, though, is that the writers didn't start actually taking the Dominion War as something worth following till the 6th season, and they didn't really commit to it till the 7th.  Until then, the show just constantly flipped between caring about the Dominion War and focusing on the latest thingy of the week.  DS9 was a great show, but it took for-frickin'-EVER to get to the meat of the show.

actually, the wart being in the background is kinda a realistic thing, things like wars are of little concern until your forced to be involved. Like during WWII, U.S. Kinda avoided it until the Japanese forced them to get in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 07:55:09 PM
If they'd focused on it more earlier on it would have been over too soon or stretched too thin. I think the way they did it was the best of both worlds, allowing them to have a core storyline, but also letting them do other things.

IMO, the way they handled the Dominion War did stretch it out too thin, though.  If I remember correctly, the first open hostilities started somewhere around the finale to season 3.  Then for the next few years the writers basically gave off this half-hearted tone of "hey, did you hear there was a war going on?  Oh, but more importantly..."  Then suddenly in Season 6 it was as if the writers walked into the room and went "what the...hey, who left this war in here?!  Dude, there's a WAR going on here!"  It was so hard to take the Dominion War seriously for so many years because the show wasn't taking it seriously.  You're probably right that they couldn't have focused on it so hard all that earlier and made it work (Babylon 5 is a perfect example of the concept getting stretched too thin), but I could have done without 3 or so seasons of waiting for something to actually happen.  They didn't need to do so much teasing, especially since the almighty Dominion War was the only reason I even started watching DS9 from the beginning.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 08:07:37 PM
Most of those 3 years it wasn't actually a war, though; it was more of a cold war. There was clearly tension there, but fighting didn't break out until later. Dominion forces didn't even come through the wormhole until the middle of the 5th season, and major fighting started pretty soon after that, as the Season 5 finale involved the Dominion taking Deep Space 9. (I'm part proud and part ashamed that I didn't know all that by heart; I had to consult Memory Alpha.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 23, 2010, 08:12:45 PM
I largely agree. I remember the final few seasons of DS9 really drew out that war. Remember how Voyager just got ass-deep in Borg crap for the last like three seasons? That's how I felt about the Dominion War.

I was also somewhat disappointed in DS9's finale because that episode wrapped up the war, AND NOTHING ELSE. It's because DS9 eventually became "that Star Trek series about the Dominion War." At least Voyager's finale brought closure to the entire arc of the show: Janeway ensuring that her crew gets back home.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 08:15:41 PM
The DS9 finale also brought closure to the story arc of the Bajoran religion and Sisko's ties to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 23, 2010, 08:19:56 PM
That's true. I thought the "final battle" between Sisko and Gul Ducat was surprisingly disappointing. Sisko basically just shoved him into a lava pit or whatever that was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 08:39:19 PM
I had similar issues with the finale to DS9 as I did to the Battlestar Galactica finale (both, not-so-coincidentally, written by Ronald D. Moore): both are really stirring and emotionally satisfying finales destroyed by really half-assed/pretentious conclusions.  I can just see the writers room now for "What you leave Behind...":

Writer 1: "Wow, we have 1:40:00 of pure awesomness.  We resolved the Dominion War, we gave each character a proper send-off with a touching farewell speech, and we got it all done just in time for tomorrow's 9 AM deadline!"

Writer 2: "Yeah....oh crap, we forgot about Dukat!  Quick, to the Batcave!"

*5 minutes later*

Writer 2: "Ok, Dukat unleashes Zuul (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RorXnigtCTM) (Not Safe for Work), and then Sisko kills him.  And then he becomes a God...some...how.  Oh well, off you go!"

To Deep Space Nine's credit, at least its rushed conclusion was only the last 20 minutes, not the entire second hour like Galactica's finale suffered under.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 08:42:53 PM
Deus ex machina isn't a problem when the gods are established characters on the show.


What bothers me about the DS9 finale is that Sisko's gone for pretty much no reason. I get that he went to be with the Prophets for a while, but it was clearly established that they exist outside linear time. He could stay with them for as long as they needed him, and still be back in his office on the station 2 minutes after he left, but the ending has him gone indefinitely just for effect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2010, 10:50:02 PM
The ending to that scene was pretty fitting to me. Sisko (the emissary of the prophets and essentially "good") sacrificed himself to defeat Dukat (the epitome of "evil") once and for all. Sisko was rescued by the prophets but not allowed to return to Bajor due to a earlier promise made by the prophets. When the Federation Alliance was re-taking Deep Space 9 and theDefiant was in the wormhole trying to stop thousands of Dominion ships from getting through, Sisko and the crew were willing to sacrifice themselves fighting the Dominion. The prophets didn't accept this, but Sisko told them that he was trying to protect Bajor. When the prophets said they didn't involve themselves in corporeal matters, Siskso called them out on that and pointed out that they had gotten involved multiple times. Sisko even told them "You want to be gods, then BE gods" when saying that the only way Bajor would survive would be to stop the Dominion ships from getting through the wormhole. The prophets told him that he would never be able to return to Bajor. Sisko was actually supposed to die with no chance of coming back and Sisko becoming a prophet, but after shooting the scene Avery Brooks said he was unhappy with the scene as he was uncomfortable with the fact that they were basically having a black man leave his pregnant black wife to raise their child alone. That is why they quickly made the change. It's fitting that Sisko would become a prophet though since he was created by the prophets (the "Sarah" prophet inhabited the body of Sisko's mom, had her marry Sisko's dad, get pregnant and give birth to Sisko before leaving Sarah's body). It was not his choice to leave, they decided that it was finally his time to join them like they had basically been telling him for years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 11:01:35 PM
I'm just saying, unless he was never coming back, which they seemed to indicate was not the case, there's no reason he couldn't come back immediately, at least from the perspective of our timeline.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2010, 11:12:33 PM
Maybe, but I guess part of that was because as I pointed out the scene was supposed to end with Sisko telling Kassidy that he was never coming back (they even shot the scene that way). Had they changed it before production started, they may have done something. The way I see it, Sisko could be happy with the prophets and just see Kassidy and their kid by coming to them in visions.

Not to open a can of worms, but this got me thinking about the Enterprise finale. That was very controversial as the entire finale was nothing more than a holodeck recreation (based on a real event, but still on the holodeck) set during a season 7 TNG episode ("The Pegasus"). There is also the fact that many fans, myself included, thought that killing Tucker and the way they did it was such a let-down. The ending scene was great though with them blending the three Enterprises (NX-01, 1701, and 1701-D) and having the "These are the Voyages" opening spoken by Archer/Kirk/Picard.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 11:16:28 PM
Not to open a can of worms, but this got me thinking about the Enterprise finale. That was very controversial as the entire finale was nothing more than a holodeck recreation (based on a real event, but still on the holodeck) set during a season 7 TNG episode ("The Pegasus"). There is also the fact that many fans, myself included, thought that killing Tucker and the way they did it was such a let-down. The ending scene was great though with them blending the three Enterprises (NX-01, 1701, and 1701-D) and having the "These are the Voyages" opening spoken by Archer/Kirk/Picard.

That episode does not exist.  Its sheer putrid horribleness tore open a rift in space-time that wiped it from the face of the universe.  Enterprise ended with "Terra Prime", and let's let it remain that way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 11:17:03 PM
"These Are The Voyages" taking place entirely in a holodeck simulation is the one thing that saves it. That one minor story choice opens the loophole that the Enterprise relaunch novels (which are completely awesome and I highly recommend to everyone) use to say that's not exactly what happened.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on August 23, 2010, 11:19:11 PM
What's everyone think of Redemption part I and II from TNG? I've tried watching it twice and just can't care, but I liked the other Klingon themed episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 11:22:02 PM
What's everyone think of Redemption part I and II from TNG? I've tried watching it twice and just can't care, but I liked the other Klingon themed episodes.

It's one of my favorite TNG episodes. I'm of the opinion that Worf didn't really get that good as a character until he was on DS9, but I thought that episode was among his best on TNG.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 11:26:42 PM
One last thing on that last bit of that Enterprise episode that doesn't exist, TJ Spike: yes, the last 30 seconds or so was pretty cool, but there was just one little problem with it (http://www.youtube.com/watch#%21v=QU-JRD4_Ffk&feature=channel) from the perspective of an Enterprise fan.  See if you can figure out what it was.  ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 23, 2010, 11:44:32 PM
I remember the rumors that they wanted to have Archer actually say that in a new opening. It's a shame that they never got to do a fifth season since Manny Coto (who was a writer on the series and became showrunner in season 4) had some great ideas planned. Shran may have joined Enterprise as an adviser, they would have had a story arc showing the origins of the Federation (rather than having to cram it into the series finale), have the Romulans become major villians in order to foreshadow the Earth-Romulan War (which would have started in the shows possible sixth season as the war started in 2156), a major revisit to the Mirror Universe (possible four or five episodes in a mini-arc to show Hoshi Sato after she proclaimed herself Empress of the Terran Empire), have Alice Krige (who played the Borg Queen in Star Trek: First Contact and the series finale of Star Trek: Voyager) play a medical technician who makes contact with the Borg and becomes the Borg Queen, and to have T'Pol meet her father and reveal that he is Romulan (making her half-Vulcan/half-Romulan). They also planned to do a prequel to the Star Trek: The Animated Series episode "The Slaver Weapon", which would have made the Kzinti canon.

There is also the intriguing idea that Russel T. Davies wanted to do a Enterprise/Doctor Who crossover, but those plans were nixed due to Enterprise being canceled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2010, 11:52:25 PM
Seriously, everyone, read the Enterprise relaunch novels. They fixed it so Trip didn't die, told the original story behind the Kobayashi Maru, and started the Romulan War. They've explained how a few things fit into continuity, and are actually attempting to explain in a semi-reasoned way why TOS era things look the way they do despite being from 100 years after Enterprise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 23, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
Seriously, everyone, read the Enterprise relaunch novels. They fixed it so Trip didn't die, told the original story behind the Kobayashi Maru, and started the Romulan War. They've explained how a few things fit into continuity, and are actually attempting to explain in a semi-reasoned way why TOS era things look the way they do despite being from 100 years after Enterprise.

I honestly didn't know Enterprise was popular enough to get a "relaunch" series of novels.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 24, 2010, 12:01:23 AM
Relaunch is the standard way to refer to Trek novels taking place after the series finale of one of the shows; they all have them. The great thing about the novels is that they don't even have to try to appeal to mainstream people; they know they're only going to sell to the fans, and because of that contain all kinds of great references only they'd get. These Enterprise novels, for instance, are full of offhand references to other series, like making Travis' family's cargo ship being the one that left the book "Chicago Mobs of the Twenties" on the planet from the TOS episode "A Piece of the Action."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 24, 2010, 03:08:15 AM
The Dominion arc was building up slowly from Season 2. Season 4 with the Klingons was due to Paramount insisting on breaking up the flow (which IMO benefitted the show). Trom "Sacrifice of Angels" and "Waltz" which set Sisko and Dukat as enemies did the show start its final march to the finale.





There is also the intriguing idea that Russel T. Davies wanted to do a Enterprise/Doctor Who crossover, but those plans were nixed due to Enterprise being canceled.


I wonder how this would work when it's almost been completely established that the TARDIS is a more powerful ship than anything Starfleet has: For instance the ship can be directed to a particular point in time/space by an "emergency control disk" (a DVD, proven in Blink), if a companion is left inside the ship alone for 5 hours it will automatically return them to their time (in Silence in the Library), breathable atmosphere can be extended outside the ship (in The Beast Below and The Time of Angels) and the TARDIS automatically translates languages telepathically so everyone speaks english (in The Christmas Invasion), and if it crashes and wrecks itself it can rebuild itself (The Eleventh Hour). I wouldn't see the point the two having a crossover really.

EDIT: Oops, i forgot to press send on this message last night..
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 24, 2010, 01:47:49 PM
It would be cool to set a new Star Trek series one or two generations in the future (from TNG/DS9/Voyager's perspective) to see what the universe looks like now. What areas have been mapped, what technological advances have been made, etc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 24, 2010, 04:11:37 PM
Mad Men 8/10 very entertaining. Need to watch season 3 and 4.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 25, 2010, 02:35:20 PM
Eureka - Season 3 - This is easily the best season of the show so far, as the writers tried to break out of the Eureka formula a bit with a couple interesting story arcs, not as much sexual pandering, and some needed character developments.  My only issue with it is that while the show was fairly-consistenty good (outside of a Recap episode and a few "sick" episodes, and I hate those), it rarely attempted to take that next step and be "great".  Incidentally, whatever happened to that Drycleaner lady that Carter was seeing for a while?  She was his girlfriend for several episodes, and then she was just...gone, replaced by Tess.  :confused;
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 25, 2010, 03:10:47 PM
Funnily enough, my wife and I just stopped watching Season 2 because it was so terrible and don't intend to pick up Season 3. I've got Justice League Unlimited on the way now. If its predecessor was any indication, JLU will be awesome.

I'm still waiting on Bones season 5...it comes out in October, which is annoying. I've been itching for that show for a loooong time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 25, 2010, 04:47:21 PM
i always liked Bones, its like a forensic show where I actually like the detectives.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 25, 2010, 05:24:32 PM
I watched a little Bones, maybe I got the wrong impression but it seems incredibly cliche and poorly-written... am I wrong?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 25, 2010, 05:45:42 PM
it is really cliché, but a good mix of cliché. Its pretty much your standard CSI show, just move on from there. No need to follow an ongoing serial plot. Something to watch when your bored. I like it better then CSI, only because Deshcanel and Boreanaz give off a Molder/Skully vibe. The Halloween episodes are always good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 25, 2010, 06:37:06 PM
That's exactly why I like it: Bones and Booth make a great banter-driven team. I'd try the show again, Grant, but rent the first season and start from the beginning.
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Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 27, 2010, 02:08:45 PM
Also, despite how crazy and loose the "science" on the show usually is, this was probably one of the better handled time travel scenarios I've seen on TV SciFi.  If for no other reason than because it didn't work like a cosmic reset button after they wrote themselves into a corner.

I am officially retracting this statement about Eureka because they're using the time travel plot to bring back a dead character, so it was a cosmic reset button after all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 27, 2010, 02:09:55 PM
Also, despite how crazy and loose the "science" on the show usually is, this was probably one of the better handled time travel scenarios I've seen on TV SciFi.  If for no other reason than because it didn't work like a cosmic reset button after they wrote themselves into a corner.

I am officially retracting this statement about Eureka because they're using the time travel plot to bring back a dead character, so it was a cosmic reset button after all.

Let me guess: Nathan?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 30, 2010, 01:04:41 AM
Last week's episode of Mad Man: Meh/10

Indeed, how DOES Joan Holloway stand up? I'm really getting sick of the ex-Mrs. Draper. The daughter, Sally, is also starting to on my nerves. The show is becoming less and less about the business and more about these unresolved family issues that have been brewing since the 2nd season. Maybe Sally will die or something, and THAT will force Don and Betty to take a hard look at what they've been doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 30, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
Also, despite how crazy and loose the "science" on the show usually is, this was probably one of the better handled time travel scenarios I've seen on TV SciFi.  If for no other reason than because it didn't work like a cosmic reset button after they wrote themselves into a corner.

I am officially retracting this statement about Eureka because they're using the time travel plot to bring back a dead character, so it was a cosmic reset button after all.

Let me guess: Nathan?

Huh? It was all an illusion of sorts. Nobody came back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on August 30, 2010, 11:09:26 AM
Also, despite how crazy and loose the "science" on the show usually is, this was probably one of the better handled time travel scenarios I've seen on TV SciFi.  If for no other reason than because it didn't work like a cosmic reset button after they wrote themselves into a corner.

I am officially retracting this statement about Eureka because they're using the time travel plot to bring back a dead character, so it was a cosmic reset button after all.

I am officially retracting this retraction because the time travel plot was unrelated to the incident to which I referred.  That's what I get for jumping the gun and basing my opinion on a preview.

Also I am officially apologizing to Caliban for not getting this retraction posted earlier to avoid confusion.


That said, the time travel thing does make me wonder why Carter was so sure the person in question was really supposed to be gone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 30, 2010, 12:05:00 PM
It's alright. I actually thought you just didn't finish watching the episode the whole way through lol. I have to say though, if they do bring him back I would not mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2010, 12:20:39 PM
I still have one disc left, but I am watching Beast Machines: Transformers. I remember why I didn't like the show when it originally aired, it basically craps all over Beast Wars. On a commentary for the show, the showrunner even admits that Mainframe Entertainment (the animation company that made the show) hired him specifically because he was not a Transformers fan and told him to ignore Beast Wars because they didn't want to have a continuity to the show. They completely changed Rattrap's personality, the explanation for Rhinox becoming a Vehicon and wanting to destroy both Optimus Primal and Megatron is weak at best, and they never offer any explanation for why they lost their transmetal forms. I now realize why many of the events of it were basically retconned for the Transformers: Universe comic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 30, 2010, 12:27:33 PM
I still have one disc left, but I am watching Beast Machines: Transformers. I remember why I didn't like the show when it originally aired, it basically craps all over Beast Wars. On a commentary for the show, the showrunner even admits that Mainframe Entertainment (the animation company that made the show) hired him specifically because he was not a Transformers fan and told him to ignore Beast Wars because they didn't want to have a continuity to the show. They completely changed Rattrap's personality, the explanation for Rhinox becoming a Vehicon and wanting to destroy both Optimus Primal and Megatron is weak at best, and they never offer any explanation for why they lost their transmetal forms. I now realize why many of the events of it were basically retconned for the Transformers: Universe comic.

I didn't like Beast Machines, either, when I originally saw it on TV.  I have the DVD boxset, though, and I thought the show dramatically improved in its second season and had a pretty impressive finale.  Rattrap in particular reverts back to something like his older self in the last batch of episode.
 
Also, to Beast Machines' credit, due to the stylization its animation has aged a lot better than Beast Wars' has.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2010, 12:37:39 PM
I don't know about that last point. I watched the original Beast Wars a few weeks ago and it still looks great. It looks pretty much the same as Beast Machines (which isn't that surprising since the same animation studio made both). I will admit that it got better in season 2, but it comes nowhere near as close as Beast Wars in quality.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 30, 2010, 12:48:02 PM
I don't know about that last point. I watched the original Beast Wars a few weeks ago and it still looks great. It looks pretty much the same as Beast Machines (which isn't that surprising since the same animation studio made both). I will admit that it got better in season 2, but it comes nowhere near as close as Beast Wars in quality.

The first season of Beast Wars looks terrible now in most episodes, with a sea of blurry textures and really bad-looking explosions and particle effects.  The second and third seasons have aged a lot better, though, since of the characters gained shiny (literally) new Transmetal models and the effects got a slight overhaul.
 
I definitely agree on the relative quality of the two properties, though: Beast Wars is IMO the best Transformers series ever made by sheer virtue of writing and imagination, which is why I'm both sad and a little annoyed that everyone gushes over the original crappy Transformers series instead and constantly demands that the original series is constantly remade in new TV, movie, and videogame projects.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2010, 12:59:33 PM
At least hardcore fans still enjoy it and they have continued to make Beast Wars comics. It would be nice to have a movie based on it (at least give us a DVD movie).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 30, 2010, 02:40:07 PM
I never got in to Beast Wars. I loved Reboot, but I never understood BW with it's even then terrible CG. There was a purpose to the CG in Reboot, but why bloody BW.

Part of it was me raging that Optimus wasn't a truck and me as a kid thinking WTF is going on? Feel free to blame it on kids like me for wanting G1 as retarded as I was back then.

Ahh, Reboot, learned much about computers that I needed to unlearn from that show. Running games kills your system. Running in 8bit mode is like an acid trip. Viruses taking their sweet time doing god knows what. The internet is a series of tubes with fly Galleons.

Good times.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caterkiller on August 30, 2010, 03:03:23 PM
Pheneas and Pherb! 10/10

I always just wrote this show off as another Disney mess, but after just one episode I became hooked! It is so clever and funny!
For me Fairly Odd Parents became the new Spongebob, now this is the new fairly Odd Parents. I havn't laughed even laughed at Family Guy like i've laughed at this in a long time.

But for those of you who have no soul and and can only laugh at adult low brow humor, this may not be for you. For everyone else, next time you are sitting around watching tv with the little ones, check it out!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 30, 2010, 03:41:23 PM
oohhboy, most people who felt like you did changed their mid when they actually watched the show and saw how great it was. Everybody is entitled to their opinions though. I hate The Office and Lost (for example), but I know both shows have big followings.

The Transformers franchise was almost dead at the time and this brought it back. They also wanted to differentiate it from the past 2 series, that is why they had the transformers land in prehistoic earth (and since this was before humans had even learned how to talk, they had no choice but to scan animals as their alternate forms. How can you call it terrible CG, especially when it's the same as ReBoot? It may not be state of the art now (although it still looks good), but it was the best thing going at the time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 30, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
I've learned not to trust TJ Spike's opinion on anything, his tastes work differently than other peoples, but it probably gives him a unique perspective.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 30, 2010, 05:10:53 PM
True Blood. I watched the first episode and thought its too much sex. I watched the second and right beyond the credits was more of it. Where's the story arc?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on August 31, 2010, 04:11:01 PM
Where's the story arc?

In my pants
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 31, 2010, 04:20:29 PM
Justice League Unlimited season 1:

Good stuff. Highlights:

1) Hawkgirl's redemption
2) Wonder Woman gets turned into a pig--Batman sings to save her
3) Black Canary generally
4) Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman, and Batman as kids

Great series, but not quite as good as the original Justice League series. The music, for one thing, is now hard rock and it sucks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 31, 2010, 04:22:01 PM
Justice League Unlimited season 1:

Good stuff. Highlights:

1) Hawkgirl's redemption
2) Wonder Woman gets turned into a pig--Batman sings to save her
3) Black Canary generally
4) Wonder Woman, Green Lantern, Superman, and Batman as kids

Great series, but not quite as good as the original Justice League series. The music, for one thing, is now hard rock and it sucks.

*starts chuckling, knowing that Halbred hasn't seen the Cadmus arc yet (including Batman Beyond references crossovers FTW!), which is among the most awesome things done in any DC: AU show.*
 
Personally, I didn't think Justice League was all that good of a show until its second season (and then Unlimited).  The way the show was structured just didn't work for me, nor some of the ho-hum scripts and iffy lighting the show suffered from for a while until they fixed their issues with the overseas animators.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 31, 2010, 04:39:13 PM
They're hinting at Cadmus, though: Power Girl Galaena, those cloned superhero kids, Joker's card-themed villains, and sending a Kryptonite nuke to take out Superman and Doomsday. That's the last episode I saw, actually, and Batman was telling Superman and Wonder Woman that the Cadmus people are right to be afraid of them, what with the dimension gun and the giant freaking laser in space.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 31, 2010, 04:59:25 PM
They're hinting at Cadmus, though: Power Girl Galaena, those cloned superhero kids, Joker's card-themed villains, and sending a Kryptonite nuke to take out Superman and Doomsday. That's the last episode I saw, actually, and Batman was telling Superman and Wonder Woman that the Cadmus people are right to be afraid of them, what with the dimension gun and the giant freaking laser in space.

Yeah, that's the beginning of the arc, anyway (and it's "Galatea", btw.  ^_- ).  Joker's card-themed goons are a reference to Batman Beyond's Royal Flush Gang as well.
 
btw, how are you liking the Jeffrey Combs-voiced "The Question"?  IMO, he comes close in Unlimited to almost being more awesome than Batman, and that's tough to do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 31, 2010, 05:08:21 PM
Yeah, that dude's insane. He needs to be in every episode.

I also like that The Doctor (from Voyager) is the voice of the gold Android dude.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 31, 2010, 10:52:42 PM
I also like that The Doctor (from Voyager) is the voice of the gold Android dude.

Robert Picardo.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 31, 2010, 11:48:22 PM
Yup, that guy. It was driving me crazy, too. But it was a certain word or phrase where I was suddenly like "THE DOCTOR!"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 01, 2010, 12:23:52 AM
Louie 9/10 su ch a great show, it was an instant hit with me
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 01, 2010, 12:44:44 AM
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood - Episodes 14-26 - (Viewed via recent "Season 1, Part 2" Blu Ray) - Wow, talk about the total opposite of the first set.  As a big fan of the first series, I was skeptical that this series would actually live up to the hype the manga nuts threw out.  Well, it turns out that after an incredibly rough first 13 episodes getting the show to the big breaking point with the first series at warp speed...yeah, it really did.  This was just an awesome volume, where there's just major event after major event, awesome (and often gruesome) animated sequence after awesome animated sequence.  What's nice, though, is that this series doesn't really feel like it's replacing the first series, as it's doing very much its own thing.  There are some things about the plot I care more for in the first series, and others in this series.

That said, I do have to scratch my head a bit at one of the major inclusions in this series that wasn't in the first: the characters from the land of Xing (who are so totally not based on the Chinese, I assure you.   ::) ).  While they can be amusing and Ling makes for a nice change in giving Ed someone besides Alphonse to talk to, they really don't do all that much (at least in this volume).  One of them even has a panda bear the size of a stuffed animal that rides on her shoulder, which feels kind of out of place in this show.  I can't say I care much for this version of Scar, either, and this show tends to rely on the "wacky" comedy a bit too much.  Still, this is definitely an awesome volume and highly recommended.  Man, the wait for the next set is going to be long.   :'(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 01, 2010, 01:11:35 AM
Yup. Gotta rent that now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 02, 2010, 08:21:59 AM
Where's the story arc?

In my pants

And thats why i cannot go there!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 02, 2010, 10:08:12 AM
Human Target

Oh my Giddy Aunt, what can I say about this. Seen the first two episodes and if nothing else I have to say that they really need to hire some real technical advisors and stop making **** up out of the writers collective arses.

Now the premise of the show is solid. Bodyguard gets one time high risk clients to protect with a small background team. The Bodyguard himself has a less that stellar past to be revealed as the show goes on. Unfortunately they got Mark Valley for the lead and I don't think that he is quite charismatic enough for the role.

However, actors are the least of their concerns. The writers just make **** up. Episode one is based on a train. Not something I know a lot about but even I know no sane engineer would allow the brakes on a bullet train to be enable without cutting power let alone let them overheat to the point where they fly out of their mountings in a fine display of "I told you so". The fact they can't cut power to slow the train even with the designer on board is just weak no matter how nice looking said designer is.

But damn it episode two is based on a plane. I am a fucking pilot and I bloody well know you can't fucking do that. The whole episode is full of "You can't fucking do that" and "That's not how is fucking works". Not sure what what altitude that were flying, but **** your flying on a commercial jet. The air is two thin up there for fire without pressurisation or oxygen source. The fire is in an unpressurised part of the aircraft started by a bullet piercing for what I can tell the reserve tank of bleed air used to pressurise the aircraft blowing air on some sparking wires cut by the Threat to force the a diversion. Except literally everything down there except for the fuel is inflammable. It has been that way for decades.

Stuff that all that. Smoke gets to the cockpit and this airline is so **** as to have both pilots oxygen masks fail. Out they come and our hero has to take the controls. Assuming the fire takes hold, our hero figures that they need to blow the fire out. Correct... If the fire was on the outside of the aircraft which our hero correctly figures isn't. He speeds the aircraft up to force more air, which actually does the opposite since none of the openings of the plane are in to the airflow. He decides to pop open the gear doors to allow more air and cranks up the pressurisation, where he finally takes the correct action by referring to the flight manual for all the wrong reasons like looking at the entire section devoted to an onboard fire. Doors open and surprise, not enough air.

So reasoning that the upper portion of the plane, because of air pressure would force more air through the plane decides that the rational thing to do is to fly upside down. Beside been wrong some more, I actually have no problem with them flying the plane upside down. Sort of. Most planes can fly upside down without needing to be designed to. The problem is fuel flow which isn't designed for inverted flight. So most panes will fly until the lines run dry. Lets ignore the fuel issue because the writers do something even more stupid. They crash the onboard computer because the plane is upside down. The computer locks the controls out which is designed to be overridden with a switch when said computer is said to have crashed.

So out comes our principal with a technobabble solution of routing the flight control software through their laptop. They get the software through the plane's manufacture's private network via the use of magic hacks. So they have to hop down to the unpressurised portion of the plane to hook the computer up. They reason it's cold down there and gear up. They forget there isn't enough air there for tem to breath. They don't care, so it isn't an issue. Quick patch work and a fight later with a revealing fact about our hero they land, some hint hint wink wink security speak goes down end of show.

The most harlious thing about all this is that our hero is still wearing the jacket that he used to protect himself from the cold all the way to the hand off at the end of the episode.

The rule of cool can't cover all these glaring mistakes. At this point it's just taking the piss. The character interactions are paper thin. The scipt is ok, the premise is solid. But the package is a block of **** wrapped in gold.

Rated

"Do not watch"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2010, 11:49:53 AM
I like that show. It's meant to be exciting, not realistic, and most people that watch the show wouldn't know how that stuff works nor care.

You want mindless fun & action, then Human Target is a surprisingly decent show that provides both. You want intelligent realism that isn't based off a comic book, then you should probably look elsewhere.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 02, 2010, 12:30:43 PM
I like that show. It's meant to be exciting, not realistic, and most people that watch the show wouldn't know how that stuff works nor care.

You want mindless fun & action, then Human Target is a surprisingly decent show that provides both. You want intelligent realism that isn't based off a comic book, then you should probably look elsewhere.

I want to like the show and as I said the premise is good. The fights is pretty well shot and pretty well choreographed. They open up the episode pretty well by setting up the mystery of who is the threat for the episode or in the case of the second episode not only don't they know who the threat is, but they don't know who the principal is.

The problem is that the danger is so contrived. They have these potentially interesting characters with less than pure pasts saving people in badass ways. The problem is that it's so badass it's stupid. The writers must take every technical situation to it's most EXTREME.

There is no reason why you can have mindless fun and action with clever use of Macgyvery elements that make sense. Any other way is just plain lazy and shows they haven't done any homework.

If I want big, dumb and stupid, I would go watch Commando and that is an excellent movie. It's doesn't hide the fact it's stupid. **** blows up and the good guys go home. Fat Australian eats a pipe through and extra hole.

Human Target is nothing like that. You already have an external threat with each episode which provides more than enough reason for everyone to use a lot of violence. There is no need to add a death trap to it. The Threat should be more than enough. If they can work the show more towards that I don't see why this show can't continue.

Look at Shoot Them Up. An insane movie where all the protagonist's problems are solved with guns. Mindless fun and action, but it makes sense within his world. Human target is set in our world with no allusions to anything else.

I assume you have watch far more episodes than I have, does the show move away from moving death traps or death traps in general?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2010, 01:21:28 PM
I've seen them all and I agree that the show could be better, but it is based off a comic book and the show creates it problems based off the solutions it would like to use. Is it lazy? sure, is it fun to watch though if you don't really think about it? sure.

Lots of cool action scenes with questionable science behind most things that happen, but still fun.

Does it get away from the death trap scenario? not really.
There is always a situation that gets jacked up on roids and taken to the extreme, but that's just to keep the audience's attention.
This was a mid season show that was fighting for ratings so you have to take that into account. It's lucky to have found an audience and finished it's whole first run then get picked up for a second season.


Think of it as popcorn TV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2010, 03:42:25 AM
Fringe is popcorn TV. You know what every they do in the episode it's going to be fucked up and they never try to sell it to you in any other way.

Until you told me, I never knew HT was based off a comic book. That makes it worse since you aren't told. There is a line that says "Developed for TV" which is pretty meaningless.

Christ, just looked up the source material and man they were digging deep. Quite frankly they should have just went all out and just straight up used it's comic roots fully by using the DC universe, not ours. I would watch the heck out of the original premise.

What wasted potential.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 06, 2010, 02:46:50 PM
I've been in the mood for something a little retro lately, so I've been rewatching my DVD of The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest.  While the animation is fairly average for 90s TV animation (and the CG animation is even worse than the first season of Reboot), overall I still really enjoy the writing in this series.  It's still refreshing to watch an adventure series where there is consequence: people die in these stories, and they often die on-screen.  The show also still has one of the most amazingly epic intros (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFccIOABuRE) of any show I've ever seen.  Thing is, watching this 13-episode DVD set always makes me angry, just as it does whenever I watch my Animaniacs or Gargoyles sets.  Why?  Because these are all series that their respective companies abandoned on DVD and didn't finish (Gargoyles especially hurts).  Right now, I'm downloading the remaining episodes of Jonny Quest just so I can see them again.  I shouldn't have to do that, and I don't want to do that.  I bought that first DVD set, and I would have bought all the others.  But because sales of the first set were apparently low, I'm stuck with an incomplete series.   :@   What happened to Animaniacs is especially head-scratching, because all the sets sold well yet we still don't have volume 4.

Maybe we'll luck out someday and remastered versions of these series will get released again.  I know WB is putting together an On-Demand service for burning DVDs for specific series like The Pirates of Dark Water on command, but the DVD-Rs they use have major compatibility issues.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 06, 2010, 07:03:26 PM
A lot people don't like it, but my wife and I love "'Til Death." We're both annoyed that seasons 3 and 4 haven't been released yet. Same story with "The New Adventures of Old Christine." I don't understand why some networks just don't bother releasing the entire show.

Brood, I'm assuming you've seen "Venture Bros."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 06, 2010, 07:11:40 PM
A lot people don't like it, but my wife and I love "'Til Death." We're both annoyed that seasons 3 and 4 haven't been released yet. Same story with "The New Adventures of Old Christine." I don't understand why some networks just don't bother releasing the entire show.

Brood, I'm assuming you've seen "Venture Bros."

Yeah, I've seen Venture Bros. and I don't much care for it.  It just features too much of that "hilarious" "Adult Swim"-type humor for my tastes, which is a general problem I have with most Adult Swim shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 06, 2010, 07:59:49 PM
I like a few Adult Swim cartoons: The Boondocks, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, sometimes Robot Chicken. The rest I don't care for.

Hal, I agree with you. I like traditional sitcoms, so 'Til Death was right up my alley. I really liked the story arc in the final season with Doug becoming paranoid and thinking he was in a sitcom. Characters breaking the fourth wall is entertaining, and I liked how he pointed out that his wife looked different but no one noticed (they had four different actresses play his wife over the four seasons of the show; one played her seasons 1 & 2, another did season 3, one did the first half of season 4 and another did the last half).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 07, 2010, 01:03:06 AM
We saw that episode on a lark. It was great.
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Post by: ThePerm on September 07, 2010, 03:41:53 AM
its kidna funny to think, and i haven't watched the show, but a character believing they are on a sitcom....thats pretty interesting ,and unless they talk directly to you then they technically aren't breaking the 4th wall, unless there's a 5th wall. In which the character realizes the cameras are there, and then we see the camera and set for what it is. There's a Fresh Prince episode with that.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on September 07, 2010, 01:52:03 PM
Maybe it's not technically breaking the fourth wall, but it is close (and I didn't know this, but apparently there is now a "fifth wall" term, it's when they acknoledge critics). Take the Pokemon movies for example, in the third movie Team Rocket saves Ash. When Ash asks why they did it, they said without him they say that without him they would be out of show business. In the Pokemon Ranger movie (which aired during season 9), Meowth mentions Diamond and Pearl are good names for games, and later when James said they would find diamonds and pearls Meowth responded by saying  "let's get through this season first." (the next season was Pokemon Diamond and Pearl).

In the final season, Doug would point out sitcom cliches like when one of them would say they need something from the store and then right after the mom got home from the store with the items, or that all of the food items had generic names and looks (rather than brand names and having to pay for those). In one of the later episodes he starts seeing a shrink and the shrink is recording it (and has her own cameraman) to air as a show, so that adds in a whole new set of humor.

I think part of what hurt the show in ratings was that they kept moving it around, didn't advertise it, and just didn't seem to care. I think Sony Pictures Television (who made it) only wanted to keep it around so it could reach the 100 episode mark that really helps sell a show in syndication.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 07, 2010, 07:08:28 PM
Mark yon calendars: Modern Family starts back up on the 22nd.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 07, 2010, 07:25:59 PM
on the 5th wall

animaniacs would always make jokes about the censors, and would often have really dirty jokes that got by

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xmAC9Qu908
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 08, 2010, 09:52:13 AM
Over the weekend I watched the two day marathon of this season of Futurama on Comedy Central (they aired 6 episodes on Saturday and 6 on Sunday). Really good season, only 1 or 2 mediocre episodes. I won't spoil anything for people who haven't seen it, but I wonder if the way the season ended (with the mutants now being allowed to walk above ground whenever they want) will have much impact on next season. I also hope next season is more than just 12 episodes.
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Post by: gbuell on September 08, 2010, 09:52:36 AM
Mystery Science Theater 3000 - Santa Claus. This one is delightfully bizarro.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 08, 2010, 11:50:13 PM
I wonder if the way the season ended (with the mutants now being allowed to walk above ground whenever they want) will have much impact on next season. I also hope next season is more than just 12 episodes.

That was the end of the season? Awww, I want more Futurama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 09, 2010, 09:31:08 AM
Yeah, I thought it was gonna be longer too but Comedy Central (which airs it here in the US) kept mentioning in the ads that the season was over but they would air all 12 episodes in a marathon. I have no idea when the next season airs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TheBlackCat on September 09, 2010, 10:38:27 PM
I watched the first episode of a great new show for Discovery Channel called "Bad Universe".  The guy doing the show is an astronomer and author I really like, Phil Plait, who wrote a book called Bad Astronomy (http://www.amazon.com/Bad-Astronomy-Misconceptions-Revealed-Astrology/dp/0471409766/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284085627&sr=8-1) that dealt with astronomy myths and misconceptions and a second one called Death From the Skies (http://www.amazon.com/Death-Skies-These-Ways-World/dp/B001U0OGPE/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284085627&sr=8-4) that was about various astronomical threats to us, such as asteroid, comets, black holes, solar flares, alien attacks, supernovas, and gamma ray bursts. 

The show is along the lines of the book.  This episode was about asteroids and comets.  Like the book it starts off with a plausible scenario (in this case a few dozen meter asteroid hitting Sydney), then goes into more detail about the science behind asteroid and comet impacts, including a number of scale experiments to see what the effects would be and how effective different strategies would be for protecting us.  When I say "scale", I mean their first experiment is to blow up a 7000 pound fertilizer/fuel oil bomb (equivalent to about 3000 pounds of TNT) to see simulate an impact (that is about 1/20th scale for what they are looking at).

In short, imagine Mythbusters dealing with space, and a lot bigger explosions.  There was a lot of interesting science, cool facts, fancy CG reconstructions, explosions, big guns, lasers, and some more cartoony reconstructions (the dinosaur extinction event was made to look like an animated comic book, for instance).

I thought it was pretty cool, although he was really pushing for people to take this threat seriously (which I agree with).  It is pretty staggering how little effort is being put into this.  I am also a bit disappointed they didn't discuss more about the Tunguska impact, since I think that would have driven the message home more. 

This is just the first episode, judging from the intro they are also going to deal with at least: alien invasions, black holes, supernovas, and solar flares. 

So I would say, probably 9/10, only because I don't think the 3D reconstruction of the impact was as good as it could be, they skipped Tunguska, and Phil didn't come across as serious as he probably meant to when emphasizing the threat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 14, 2010, 04:53:51 PM
i liked that episode, but i felt his simulation of a nuke impact wasn't accurate. He basically simulated just crashing the thing into the asteroid, not landing on the asteroid and then detonating it. A more accurate representation would be c4 on a boulder. Not enough impact to destroy the asteroid, but enough to create reverse propulsion. Although if the asteroid was the size of a football field then yes it would destroy it.


Burn Notice thumbs up+
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TheBlackCat on September 15, 2010, 02:36:04 PM
The problem with using explosives, and the reason the impact is a good model, is that there is no air in space.  That means there is nothing to carry the shockwave like there is on earth, all of the energy would be dumped into the asteroid at the point of the explosion (minus some negligible radiation damage).  In air the shockwave would be carried by the air as well, which completely changes how the damage is distributed.  So a kinetic energy impact against a solid object is a pretty good model for a nuke in a vacuum, much better than an explosion in air would be.

That is another problem with the show, he doesn't always do the best job of explaining why they used certain approaches.  He also doesn't explain much about the kinetic impactor model, the size, weight, or makeup of the model asteroid in that case (or why those parameters were selected), how they know how much it needed it to move, and so on.  Considering that is really the only approach that actually worked, they should have explained it in more detail perhaps at the expense of some of the other bits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 16, 2010, 04:20:17 AM
even if there is no air, the rock would be superheated and some of it would become gas, also not to mention the gas created by fission. If I were to do the landing strategy I would pack it in a shell filled with metal dust.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TheBlackCat on September 16, 2010, 11:29:34 PM
There would be a tiny amount of gas, but nowhere near enough to carry a noticeable shockwave due to the very low density (it would be a vacuum) and the total kinetic energy would approximately zilch due to the really low mass (relative to the mass of the asteroid). 

With a nuke, metal dust would become gas, and if the gas is what you are looking for you are better of lining the walls of the nuke with a solid shell of depleted uranium or some other really dense material.  It doesn't really matter what you do, it would still be vaporized.  Of course nukes have that anyway because they need to keep the bomb together long enough for the nuclear reaction to take place (it's called a tamper).  But the affect of the gas would still be pretty much negligible because of the tiny mass and very low density.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 17, 2010, 01:38:48 AM
The mass of the nuke is negligible compared to the astroid no matter of what you used. What you need is multiple multi-stage thermonuclear warhead that can direct the force into the astroid like a shape charge. Losing more than half the energy to space is very wasteful You would need multiple hits anyway and from the side. The nukes would also have to be very sizeable in order to produce useful delta V (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta-v).

At best we can deflect, not stop and most certainly not shatter one without causing an internal explosion of insane proportions.

Give it a bunker buster design so you can vaporise the astroid to increase propellent which will increase energy delivered. However any plan would be based on how much time you have. Further out you detect it, more time you have to deflect, however it will also increases any inaccuracies. It means intervening could cause a near miss to be a hit. The bigger problem is that we can only scan a tiny proportion of the sky.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TheBlackCat on September 17, 2010, 09:06:16 PM
The solution the show settled on was a high-velocity kinetic impactor (basically a hunk of metal accelerated to really high speeds), which would push the asteroid out of the way at least for the impending impact.  This would be a lot more effective than a nuke, because a lot more of the energy would go into pushing the asteroid.  Then they would put a gravity tug next to it to pull it into a safe orbit over a longer period of time.  A gravity tug is just a satellite with a weak, long-lasting ion engine that you park next to the asteroid then use the thrusters to prevent the two from touching.  I think ideally we would crash it into the moon or one of the other planets just to be safe.  Throwing every nuke we could at it would be a last resort.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 19, 2010, 07:44:46 PM
"The Closer" (first two episodes)

Surprisingly good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 20, 2010, 11:06:36 AM
Reno 911. Working through season 2. Some crazy funny moments in this one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 20, 2010, 08:17:49 PM
Just finished Garfield and Friends season 1 thanks to Netflix. It was better as a kid, but I still enjoyed it (they even managed to sneak in a rare adult joke that kids wouldn't get).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kraken613 on September 20, 2010, 11:06:19 PM
Hawaii Five-O seems cool a fun action show can always be good.

Chuck was good tonight, can't wait until they really get going with the season.

Now off to watch House and How I Met Your Mother.


All the shows I watch are on Mondays and Thursdays and at the same times as eachother... Annoying.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 20, 2010, 11:19:34 PM
Boardwalk Empire Pilot - 9/10

I only gave it a 9 because I think it has the potential to do even better in the future. A truly excellent show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2010, 12:24:21 AM
yeah the Boardwalk Empire Pilot was really good. It has a lot of potential. That time period is pretty interesting. People think society is going down the tubes, its a perennial complaint, but the truth is everything is always getting better. You can't get away with crime nowadays, so you hear about it all the time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 21, 2010, 02:18:47 AM
I watched the first 3 episodes, season 1, of Mad Men. I don't get what's the fuss about this show. I like the era, but that main character leaves much to be desired. All I see is falsity from him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 21, 2010, 01:17:00 PM
I haven't seen Mad Men but I hear it really gets better after the first several episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 21, 2010, 01:19:49 PM
He gets more complicated as the show goes on, but Don Draper is NEVER likable. He's very much an anti-hero. Actually, almost none of the characters are likable. I'd say that Peggy (the new girl) sort of is, and Joan gets better as the show progresses. I like Roger, although he has his own demons, too.

Episode 1 of HOUSE!

Not that great. Kinda boring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 21, 2010, 01:23:57 PM
I really like shows with unlikeable characters. I'll probably pull a Lost and wait for Mad Men to finish up and marathon the whole thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 21, 2010, 07:18:02 PM
Mad Men to me is just entertaining, its basically just a high production value soap opera.

8.5/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 24, 2010, 09:25:46 AM
**** my dad says. Not bad for a 1st episode. It's a son and dad kind of comedy with William Shatner and some other guy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 24, 2010, 10:52:35 AM
*snip*  Wrong Thread.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 24, 2010, 11:28:29 AM
brood, I think you meant to put that in the last movie thread, this is the last TV show thread.

Watched the season premiere of The Big Bang Theory last night, still one of the best shows on TV. I thought they did a good job with Sheldon going on his first date, and how one of the topics of discussion at dinner was him calculating that Penny has probably dated around 193 men in her life and had sex with about 30.93 (which he then rounded up to 31).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 24, 2010, 11:32:58 AM
brood, I think you meant to put that in the last movie thread, this is the last TV show thread.

Oops...yeah...*snip*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 24, 2010, 01:41:53 PM
Season Premier of Modern Family: Excellent, as usual. As an added bonus, Sofia Vergara made chocolate milk the old-fashioned way in a low-cut top. Quality telemundo, right there.

Disks 1 & 2 of Season 3 of Big Bang Theory: Sheldon has leveled off somewhat, in a good way. I like the fact that Walowitz has a girlfriend who's basically autistic. I don't know how much I like the fact that Leonard and Penny are together now, though. I always thought they worked better together as friends. Also, is it just me, or is Kuthropali becoming really really gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

ANTM Cycle 15: I'm not rooting for ANY of the girls this year. Screw 'em all, even the one with G-cups. None of them can model their way out of a paper bag.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2010, 01:46:05 PM
**** my dad says. Not bad for a 1st episode. It's a son and dad kind of comedy with William Shatner and some other guy.

It's not based off the Twitter feed, is it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 24, 2010, 01:50:41 PM
Yeah, it is. There's also a book.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2010, 03:12:11 PM
**** my dad says. Not bad for a 1st episode. It's a son and dad kind of comedy with William Shatner and some other guy.

It's not based off the Twitter feed, is it?
season opener of community was joking about that the whole episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 24, 2010, 04:16:11 PM
Really? Based off twitter? Oh my.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 24, 2010, 04:16:23 PM
**** my dad says. Not bad for a 1st episode. It's a son and dad kind of comedy with William Shatner and some other guy.

It's not based off the Twitter feed, is it?

For obvious reasons though, the show's name is actually $h*! My Dad Says (officially pronounced as Bleep My Dad Says). I don't see the concept lasting long though, it's like when they tried to take the GEICO Cavemen commercials and turn that idea into a show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on September 24, 2010, 04:18:38 PM
Really? Based off twitter? Oh my.

http://twitter.com/Shitmydadsays
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 24, 2010, 04:20:40 PM
Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on September 24, 2010, 08:35:37 PM
*BEEP* My Dad Says: This shows lives and dies on William Shatner being a complete self-parody, and I thought they did a good job with the pilot at least.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 24, 2010, 08:38:36 PM
Nobody does self-parody better than William Shatner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: apdude on September 24, 2010, 08:50:29 PM
Anyone know when FX will run a new season of Justified?
 
I really enjoyed the first season's blend of action, drama and humor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 24, 2010, 09:15:24 PM
**** my dad says. Not bad for a 1st episode. It's a son and dad kind of comedy with William Shatner and some other guy.

The book was humorous enough to warrant the read. It's not very long, and can be finished in just a few hours.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 24, 2010, 09:38:18 PM
Anyone know when FX will run a new season of Justified?
 
I really enjoyed the first season's blend of action, drama and humor.

From what I could find, the second season is supposed to air in early 2011.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 25, 2010, 05:25:54 AM
Season Premier of Modern Family: Excellent, as usual. As an added bonus, Sofia Vergara made chocolate milk the old-fashioned way in a low-cut top. Quality telemundo, right there.

Disks 1 & 2 of Season 3 of Big Bang Theory: Sheldon has leveled off somewhat, in a good way. I like the fact that Walowitz has a girlfriend who's basically autistic. I don't know how much I like the fact that Leonard and Penny are together now, though. I always thought they worked better together as friends. Also, is it just me, or is Kuthropali becoming really really gay (not that there's anything wrong with that)?

ANTM Cycle 15: I'm not rooting for ANY of the girls this year. Screw 'em all, even the one with G-cups. None of them can model their way out of a paper bag.

yeah her stirring milk was awesome
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 25, 2010, 01:33:07 PM
Undercovers - While i can never get bored with the lead actors, it's fun and silly. A refreshing change to Fringe (which i'm on Season 1) and others.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 26, 2010, 12:59:56 AM
I've been keeping up with a couple shows lately:

Warehouse 13 - Well, season 2 has come and gone and...eh, it was a good season, though it ended on a spectacularly dull note.  Sure, on paper the idea of stopping a villain from destroying the world sounds like a good way to end a season, but it was one of those "stopped by the power of LOVE" kind of endings and just came off really lame.  The final episode couldn't have had a more perfect name: "Reset".  It took most of the meaningful direction this show was going this season and then threw it out the window, though I am interested to see what they do with Myka after this season.  As usual, Claudia and Artie were the shining stars of this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 26, 2010, 01:03:27 AM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars - Alright, this has been irritating me for a while now, but it's really become a problem in Season 3: 2 out of the first 3 episodes have been prequel episodes to events of the first season and the movie.  They did this last year, too, and it irritated me then as well.  I know that Lucasarts must be deathly afraid of actually moving forward with this story because they're starting to intrude upon Revenge of the Sith's time period, but character and story development moves forward not backwards.  All this time-wasting time-jumping is giving me a headache and just hurts the show overall, even if the actual episodes have been pretty decent.

EDIT:  I had to split the shows up into 2 separate posts due to  buggy forum code randomly bolding everything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 26, 2010, 07:20:31 PM
Mad Men (last Sunday's episode): The problem now is that Don is getting more sympathetic and is actively working to improve himself, but Betty is just getting worse and worse. I wish she would die at this point. Her own daughter hates her, and I can't blame her for that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2010, 02:05:18 AM
Terriers Episode 3. Watch this show. Tune in on FX Wednesdays, go to Hulu and watch the first three episodes. It's a dark private detective show with Donal Logue. Take Veronica Mars and go even harder Noir.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 04:33:04 AM
you realize that the shows 4th episode aired tonite right?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2010, 04:50:13 AM
Have you seen the show? What did you think?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 10:21:53 AM
I like it. I've started watching a few of the new shows from this new season though.

Terriers
Undercovers
Lone Star
No Ordinary Family
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on September 30, 2010, 11:43:40 AM
b[]Adventure Time with Finn & Jake: 9/10 This and The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack are the best cartoons I have seen in a long time. I was thinking of theming my mafia game after Adventure Time, but I'm not sure enough people watch/like it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on September 30, 2010, 11:44:32 AM
Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck, why can't I edit my posts?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 30, 2010, 11:49:21 AM
Lone Star

So are you bummed that it was already canceled? Fox has said that they will still air the remaining episodes they already taped though, although they will be aired Saturdays at 11PM (like what ABC did after they canceled Pushing Daisies but still were willing to air the episodes already taped). I never watched the first two episodes because I was watching WWE Raw instead.

I really like Hell's Kitchen, last night's episode was pretty good. I also checked out the series premiere of Law & Order: Los Angeles, I didn't like it that much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 12:02:38 PM
Lone Star was cancelled already!?

But crap like Running Wilde continues on uninterrupted?

Oh well, guess I can stop watching it now. No need to get invested into something they aren't gonna finish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 30, 2010, 12:14:12 PM
The show was getting very low ratings. It got about 4.1 million viewers (it's lead in show was House and that had 10.7 million viewers). Fellow rookie show The Event (which aired at the same time) had over 10 million viewers and Dancing With the Stars had over 20 million. It's a tough break for the show, which became the first show of the fall to get axed (last year that dishonor went to the Ashton Kutcher-produced show The Beautiful Life: TBL on The CW). Since the show was produced by Fox itself, there isn't much hope for another network to pick it up.

I haven't seen Running Wilde (although I hope it does well because of Will Arnett), but it does slightly better. Sitcoms also cost less money to make than dramas, so ratings are more important for dramas. If you want to consider specific demographics, Fox may have been disappointed that it got a 1.3 rating in the adults 18-49 demo (compared to 4.2 for House).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 30, 2010, 12:51:32 PM
Supernatural (Season 6 - Episode 1)

It was a good start for the season. There were a few surprises of course, but they will all be sorted out I hope.

Stargate Universe (Season 2 -Episode 1)

I liked this episode a lot. There were 2 faces from the alliance that I don't remember seeing in the first season, this gorgeous lady (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1617837/) and this guy (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0460694/). It's off to a good start, so let's see where Destiny leads them.

The Event (Season 1 - Episode 1)

Eh. One week ago, 2 hours ago, 4 years ago... just cut it already. It's annoying. I will still keep watching this show to see where it goes, but I'm not impressed.

It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia (Season 6 - Episode 1, 2)

These guys are awesome. The first 2 episodes are hilarious.

House (Season 7 - Episode 1, 2)

The first episode was ok. They had to make it a closure for what happened at the end of last season. The second episode was so much better because it was House (not the character) back to usual. I'm sad that 13 had to go, but I'm hoping there will be a return of some kind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 12:56:32 PM
Advertising for it was crap, especially compared to the wanna be LOST meets 24 show that is The Event (I was bored with the season opener but they advertised the hell out of that show since about 4 months back).

If more people gave it(Lone Star) a chance, and Fox had made it more known(& given it some time), I'm sure it would have found it's audience.

Running Wilde on the other hand is not funny, is only mildly entertaining, and I'm being nice because I really wanted to like it.
That is just based off the 1st 2 episodes that have aired so far.

Another new show that is pretty good is Boardwalk Empire on HBO.
Only 2 eps so far, but I'm liking it. Prohibition Age Atlantic City. rise of Al Capone seems to be a future plot point.

Another new show I checked out the other night was Raising Hope. I only saw the 2nd episode, but it was interesting enough that I'm trying to watch the 1st episode when I get a chance then probably the 3rd ep when it airs.
OMG @ the girl with the tooth. LOL.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 30, 2010, 01:07:37 PM
Another new show that is pretty good is Boardwalk Empire on HBO.
Only 2 eps so far, but I'm liking it. Prohibition Age Atlantic City. rise of Al Capone seems to be a future plot point.

Oh. I just put the first episode on my download list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 30, 2010, 01:10:41 PM
My wife really likes "The C Word" on Showtime, which is about Laura Linney having cancer and not telling anybody about it. I don't really care for it. Even though the show has a totally different premise, it reminds me of "Weeds," another show I don't like.

Modern Family, episode 2: This show is so great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2010, 01:15:10 PM
Yeah, I really liked LoneStar, too bad about it being canceled. Out of the new shows I've seen:

- The Event was horrible
- No Ordinary Family was a bad pilot, but it could get better
- Running Wilde was not funny
- Detroit 187 is good
- Hawaii 5-0 was surprisingly good
- Outsourced was dumb
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 01:32:43 PM
I watched Detroit 1-8-7....
I haven't seen the second episode yet, but the 1st ep had me thinking that they want to be the next The Wire only using a character that was sorta Caruso-ish from CSI. I'm not really feeling that. I have the second ep recorded though, so I'll give that a watch and see how I feel about it.

No Ordinary Family I liked. It was like The Fantastic 4 meet The Incredibles. I expect entertainment out of that show. & it stars Vic Mackey so I'm a little biased going in. :P

I also just watched the 1st episode of Raising Hope. L.O.L.
I will definitely be watching episode 3 when it airs next week. If they can make me literally laugh out loud 3 episodes in a row, then they have my attention for the rest of the season. It's a bout a teenage kid with no direction in life, that has a dysfunctional white trash family and a senile grandma, who is suddenly stuck raising a baby. If you get a chance, check this one out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 30, 2010, 01:54:45 PM
The fact that Raising Hope is from the guy who created My Name is Earl (Greg Garcia) is enough to at least get me to check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 30, 2010, 03:57:48 PM
The Event (Season 1 - Episode 2)

Oh wow. I actually followed through the whole episode. I'm getting a "First Wave" vibe with this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 30, 2010, 11:45:17 PM
Boardwalk Empire (Season 1 - Episode 1)

What a superb show. I'm glad I watched it in HD. The sets are just gorgeous. The actors/actresses also perform admirably.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2010, 11:47:49 PM
I watched the second episode of Undercovers.

I think the best part of this show is the wife.
She is like the NEW Jessica Alba. So hot!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 01, 2010, 11:19:38 AM
The Big Bang Theory - Good episode. Sheldon calculated that he would die just before they invent the technology to transfer your conscience into a robot, so he decides to take steps to increase his lifespan (like eating brussels sprouts on Thursdays instead of pizza, but that ends up causing him to fart a lot).

TNA Impact! - I am a big wrestling fan, so I watch most of the wrestling shows, this weeks episode was not as good as last weeks. Next week will be a live episode though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 01, 2010, 01:29:58 PM
I thought robo-Sheldon was hilarious, especially in the car.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 01, 2010, 01:51:25 PM
Sheldon is always entertaining, I like Leonard's reaction later when robo-Sheldon couldn't get into his office because of the doorknob (I am surprised Sheldon didn't think to put some sort of mechanical arms on it). Having a cameo from Steve Wozniak was pretty cool too (and him calling Sheldon a nerd).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 01, 2010, 06:03:26 PM
The C word premier was interesting, it seems like a show that I would like, but not be in love with. If there weren't so many good shows on television right now though it would be pretty much up there.

I think i mentioned it earler but board walk empire looks like it will be spectacular.

I started watching Grey's Anatomy and its the goriest doctor show i've seen. I am a horro buff and this show has made me cringe and dry heave on occasions. Its a bit soap opera-ish, but some of the episodes are really good.

Nurse Jackie is pretty funny, i saw most of the first season, but we canceled our premium channels.

Burn Notice is also great, so many awesome situations. Its smart and action packed.

Its Alway's Sunny this just reminds me of an extreme Seinfeld, where the characters are self serving sociopaths is taken to a new level. This brings me joy though. When I started watching them 2 years ago, i watched all the episodes over a period of a week, Then FX took them off their website the day after.

Curb your Enthusiasm Thank goodness for syndication, I'm kinda disappointed I didn't start watching this sooner.

 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 04, 2010, 04:03:24 AM
The last episode of It's Alway's Sunny was perfect. Seriously, sitcom perfection was achieved.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 04, 2010, 05:55:44 AM
the funny thing is i knew what wuld happen right from the beginning, totally obvious really
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 04, 2010, 10:05:23 AM
I love Fox's Animation Domination block:

The Simpsons - I had no idea that Muhammad Yunus was a real person until the credits rolled and listed him as a guest star. Apparently he is the guy who  came up with this whole micro-loan program that Lisa did in the episode. Good episode, not great.

The Cleveland Show - Interesting concept with it being a "live" episode and like they were actors. I wonder why they took a jab at American Dad! and didn't even mention Futurama at the beginning. They also poked fun at how they get around actors supposedly being nude on sitcoms (like wearing underwear that is blocked from view by objects).

Family Guy - I am a little surprised that they actually kept Diane dead after Stewie killed her last week. I thought it was not realistic for Brian to suddenly change his opinions just because he read Limbaugh's book.

American Dad! - Apparently part one of a two part episode. Not sure why they had Haley decide to marry Jeff. It was funny listening to Deputy Director Bullock talking about how he missed banging Haley.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2010, 12:45:13 PM
Didn't watch the simpsons - have no interest in that show

The Cleve show - not very funny

Family guy - not funny

American Dad - much better than the other 2 I watched.

Overall - disappointed in last nights Animation block.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 04, 2010, 01:00:34 PM
Do you just not like those shows or was it the specific episodes?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2010, 01:35:39 PM
I like those shows, other than The Simpsons, it's just that none of them were particularly funny last night.

Famiily Guy has had some episodes that were hilarious like PTV, American Dad has had lots of laughs and Cleveland show has been sorta funny at times too, but last night was just disappointing. For the most part theyh just need to be highly entertaining even if not funny and I was just not feeling most of the 1st 2 shows and enjoyed the 3rd.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2010, 11:03:00 PM
Just finished the last episode of Family Guy, and I can safely say that I can place this episode right up there with Saw 6 under "entertainment" I find offensively bad.  Episodes like this remind me of the South Park episode "All About the Mormons", which spent a great deal of time making fun of the wacky history of my ancestry...and then actually ended with a very fair and balanced view of the matter.  I don't like South Park as a show (I just don't find its sense of humor altogether funny most of the time), but that show at least can sometimes leave off with a good message.  This episode just makes me...angry, as it was nothing but a platform for the show's creators to spout off on just how much they hate Conservatives.  And it wasn't even funny!  How do you do a show featuring Brian taking on Rush Limbaugh and not make it funny?!  ARGH!

Oh yeah, and Eureka Season 4 ended well, somehow managing to (thankfully) avoid performing the universal Reset it threatened so hard to do.  And somehow Star Wars: The Clone Wars managed to have an episode featuring Greedo and a George Lucas stand-in in a canteena and somehow not do a "Han shoots first" joke.  FAIL!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 04, 2010, 11:26:55 PM
Oh yeah, and Eureka Season 4 ended well

It's only a mid-season break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 04, 2010, 11:50:54 PM
How do you do a show featuring Brian taking on Rush Limbaugh and not make it funny?!  ARGH!

By doing what they did, basically spend the whole episode praising Limbaugh. I was hoping they would make fun of him and conservatives (especially since Seth is a proud liberal).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2010, 05:07:37 PM
They had to write an episode Limbaugh was willing to appear in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 05, 2010, 05:52:27 PM
Limbaugh also appeared in the hour-long episode "Blue Harvest" (which was the FG version of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2010, 06:19:24 PM
Did anyone watch the season openeer to Dexter sunday b4 last?

such a missed opportunity for a Six Feet Under reference by using the other brother from that show as the funeral director.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 05, 2010, 06:30:14 PM
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!!!

It's gonna be a good season, though. However, it's going to be damn hard to top last season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2010, 06:31:20 PM
Limbaugh also appeared in the hour-long episode "Blue Harvest" (which was the FG version of Star Wars Episode IV: A New Hope).

I loved that cameo; it was a really funny little non sequitur joke.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2010, 07:09:21 PM
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I THOUGHT!!!

It's gonna be a good season, though. However, it's going to be damn hard to top last season.

(http://i52.tinypic.com/5bbigy.jpg)
"I'm sorry for your loss"

would have been so perfect and would've brought such a smile to my face, regardless of how sad that scene was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 05, 2010, 08:10:26 PM
How do you do a show featuring Brian taking on Rush Limbaugh and not make it funny?!  ARGH!

By doing what they did, basically spend the whole episode praising Limbaugh. I was hoping they would make fun of him and conservatives (especially since Seth is a proud liberal).

Were we watching the same episode?  :Q   There were loads of insults and insinuations aimed at Republicans and Rush in that episode.  They just weren't funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2010, 04:06:44 AM
Supernatural Season 1 - Good Television

Not every episode was the best but almost all were really entertaining. This is a show I wanted to watch when it started (during s5 of Smallville, and I know this because the actor from Smallville stars on this show) but I had a full load of shows to watch back then and my VHS tape could only handle so many recordings at a time (1, it could handle one recording at a time, it was a freakin VHS tape. Gimme a break, I didn't get my DVR box until 2006). But this show has been great so far, ghost, spirits, demons, possessions, magic, good, evil, life, death, humor and violence. what's not to like about this show? & Holy **** at the ending of the season. My Jaw dropped because it caught me off guard. Can't wait to see how season 2 starts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 06, 2010, 11:35:43 AM
That has got to be one of the best season enders ever for TV history, or at least from what I've watched.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2010, 12:11:30 PM
That has got to be one of the best season enders ever for TV history, or at least from what I've watched.

Whats sucks is that after watching the season 2 opener I realize that it was all for nothing. It could have all been avoided and they could have ended up with the same result and had that demon dead. Sam will probably not know the truth for a while, but Dean knows since the dad whispered something in his ear(I assume that's the logical conclusion to make after finding out what the dad did to save him - and the secret about Dean being a chosen baby or something. I've only seen s2e1 so far.)

I really hope s2 is as good or better than s1. I caught a few eps from last season and that's what prompted me to finally start watching this show, but I doubt that really spoiled anything since there are 3 seasons I missed inbetweenlots of story to catch up on before knowing about being the Devil's vessel.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 06, 2010, 12:22:06 PM
I watched last night's episode of Glee, called "Grilled Cheesus" (it refers to a grilled cheese sandwich that Finn makes that has a image of Jesus burned into it). Not one of the best episodes IMO. It had some pretty good songs, like Finn singing "Losing My Religion" and the entire New Directions club performing "One of Us", but I was not a big fan of the religion themed episode. I did enjoy the storyline of Kurt and his father. Brittany had yet another memorable quote when she asked if God was a evil dwarf (it came after someone asked Kurt why he didn't believe in God and he basically responded that there is no proof it exists and said "You can't prove that there isn't a magic teapot floating around the dark side of the moon with a dwarf inside of it that reads romance novels and shoots lightning bolts out of its boobs, but it seems pretty unlikely, doesn't it?").
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 06, 2010, 01:30:11 PM
My wife and I have been watching Glee since the beginning, and we've both agreed that the show has gone steadily downhill since...well, the first episode. First they started hitting us with these really emotionally-driven storylines like with Kurt and his dad. Then the lead singer woman started becoming THE MOST IRRITATING PERSON ON THE PLANET, then these themed episodes. Madonna was bad enough, but Lady Gaga? Brittney? Religious songs?

It's like they're running out of ideas in the second season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2010, 10:08:43 PM
Supernatural: s2 - Prankster ep

This is by far the funniest episode of the series so far. The dynamic between the 2 brothers is always humorous, and Dean is always making small jokes, but the way he describes whats going on in this episode was just LOL. When Sam described it, it seemed so normal, nothing out of the ordinary, but when Dean starts talking, the whole situation is out of control. His whole portrayal of Sam had me laughin my ass off and I seriously hope they do more episodes like that.


-Supernatural marathon continues.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2010, 06:39:39 PM
Supernatural Season 2 - more great television!

If you are into anything that the name suggest, this is such a good show. Once again, not every episode is the best, but it's all handled very well and the special effects are pretty damn good for being television. The last ep got a little emotional at end, but things are looking good moving forward.

On to Season 3 now as the Supernatural marathon continues.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TheBlackCat on October 09, 2010, 09:35:06 PM
I watched bad universe episode 2.  This one deals with extraterrestrial attacks.  It had some cool stuff and some disappointments.  It was necessarily much more speculative than the last episode, but I don't think he adequately explained the issues with his arguments and I anticipate a lot of objections to his characterization of interstellar travel. 

For one thing, I do not think he adequately explained the flaws in the Drake equation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) (we only have wild guesses for most of the numbers, making any conclusion totally meaningless).  I also don't think E. coli was a good choice at all as an example of a bacteria to smash into the ground.  On the other hand, I am glad he talked about the experiments with exposing bacteria and tardigrades to extended period of time in space (having a bacteria survive in space is okay, but having an animal able to survive is pretty amazing, plus they're my second favorite animal :) ). 

The last two segments are the best, but I think he explained the scenario von Neuman probes much better in his book.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
The thing with Supernatural is that I thought it just kept on getting better, and better, season after season. The last season (in regards to how the creator originally intended it to end, so basically the 5th season) pretty much does not have much filler episodes, and even any filler episodes in this series tend to be good to great.

By the way, season 3 is shorter because of the writers strike at the time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 09, 2010, 09:56:42 PM
Personally I have always preferred the "Monster of the Week" episodes in Supernatural, and there are some real doozies coming up for you, BnM.

Some of my favorites:
The Bank Job
Dean's unlucky day
Dean is scared
Ghostfacers
Old time monster movie
Scarecrow
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2010, 10:14:04 PM
The Hoodoo Rabbits Foot episode was f***in HILARIOUS.
even better than the Trixter episode.

Dean is crackin me up with all the movie references and just generally being Mr. Macho Man's Man.

Also the british chick in the red the episode after than is soo fine. Makes me think of what Lindsey Lohan should have grown up to look like if she hadn't wrecked herself in the meantime.


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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 09, 2010, 11:59:49 PM
If it's hotties, these 2 are may favs:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1775214/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3004295/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 10, 2010, 12:04:11 AM
If it's hotties, these 2 are may favs:

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1775214/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm3004295/

I'm not into blondes, but it seems like there is always a hottie of the week.
Like Dean's baby mama and the werewolf chick.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2010, 09:53:26 PM
Supernatural Season 3 & 4

OMG no more filler eps that aren't trixter related please!!!!
Monster Movie and GhostChasers made me want to skip to the next episode so many times.
Everything pushing the story forward is gold, and the monster of the week fillers are ok, but the silly themed or filler eps that aren't Trixter related have got to go. GhostChasers are cringeworth and the Monster Movie B&W episode was horrible.

But I'm into s5 now and there are a few eps from this season I've already watched when they aired like the the TV show parody episode (L.O.L.), so I'm really looking forward to this season and the 3 episodes this new season that have aired so far.

back to my Supernatural marathon...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 12, 2010, 11:39:33 PM
I wouldn't be so fixated on the Trickster if I were you...
Wasn't Dean's mom hot, or what lol.

For season 6 you can skip the first 2 episodes, but you might miss little hints of what Dean and Sam will encounter later on.
The 3rd episode was awesome, so don't miss it. After watching it I think I know what the brothers might have to do because it's going to be quite a journey.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on October 13, 2010, 10:39:43 AM
With no computer access at home, i've been watching a lot of Netflix on my PS3.

MythBusters: i've watched the first 3 collections (even though i've seen every episode on TV), and this is one of my favorite TV shows. It got even better when Grant, Kari, and Tory became regulars on the show.

Beavis and Butt-head: The Mike Judge Collection
Volumes 1 & 3: The downside to instant streaming is that you don't get any of the extras on the DVD release. For the Beavis and Butt-head releases, these extras include a bunch of those music video commentaries from them, features on the show (like developing it, the impact the show had on society, etc.). With the Instant Streaming, you just get the actual episodes themselves. Still funny.

Doctor Who: The City of Death: This was a four-part episode that originally aired in 1979. Tom Baker was OK as the Doctor, but it makes me wonder why people often call him the best Doctor (I think David Tennant was superior in every way). Maybe it's because I have no particular love for 70s sci-fi, but the special effects and costumes were so bad. The costume for the Jagoroth was especially bad. I did like Ramona as his companion though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2010, 02:01:56 PM
I wouldn't be so fixated on the Trickster if I were you...
Wasn't Dean's mom hot, or what lol.

For season 6 you can skip the first 2 episodes, but you might miss little hints of what Dean and Sam will encounter later on.
The 3rd episode was awesome, so don't miss it. After watching it I think I know what the brothers might have to do because it's going to be quite a journey.

Deans mom was pretty hot and the "trickster" episodes were all great, especially the TVLand episode.
But I'm not skipping any episodes. I'm watching season 5 right now and even though I've seen a block of about 7-8 eps before starting from the beginning, I'm now re-watching those eps in the context of the story line of the show where everything makes a lot more sense. Good or not so good, I'm watching it from beginning to end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 13, 2010, 02:48:03 PM
"O Death" is great song from season 5. BnM, what do you think of Chuck?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 13, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
I like Chuck, but it doesn't capture me like it used to.
Now I continue to watch it out of habit and support, only I do it willingly(unlike the self-punishment that was Heroes) because I still enjoy Chuck.
The first 2 seasons were the best and the last 2 season have had their moments, but something about the show just isn't quite the same(or maybe it's too much the same {with a gimmick added ontop}, it's kinda hard for me to tell).

Either way, unless Chuck has a major jumping of the shark moment, I'll probably ride it out till the end(which seems to be every season). But it would be nice if NBC would let them tell the story they want instead of making them attempt to wrap up everything all nice and neat in uncertain season orders(ask for 13 episodes with possibility of a back 9 order, no certainty of a next season and blah blah blah, I really think it hurts the show).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 18, 2010, 11:03:01 AM
Is anyone else still watching Undercovers?

I watched the second episode and while its funny it does feel very episodic; little carried over into that ep and there's nothing in the way of a story arc. The chemistry of the lead actors won't carry the show alone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2010, 01:09:57 PM
I still watch it, but mostly because the wife (Ugabi?) is pretty freakin hot. But you're right, their relationship issues and on screen chemistry needs to be met with a deeper season long story arc of some sort. They need a conspiracy to unravel, which was hinted at in the last episode, but there is no telling at this point if it will be interesting or more than a few episodes long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 19, 2010, 06:51:29 AM
I need to watch episode 3 now to catch up. Hopefully it starts to progress forward.

I did watch episode 2 of The Event last night. Lost had the right idea when flashbacks were mainly used for character development and backstory about them. The Event, however, uses them to jump around to explain the narrative but instead jumps BACKWARDS on itself. First at the present moment then going back to a point to explain how he/she got there and what's happening. Makes for a confusing watch.


This guy who attempted to hijack the plane to prevent it being destroyed ran away because he pilot, who himself was coerced into crashing the plane, told him to or else he will die. "It's not help".
REALLY? Not a single reason was given as to why he should go. You've just been through a plane crash, helicopters and trucks are coming and you're going to believe the pilot who ATTEMPTED TO CRASH YOUR PLANE?


After Stargate Universe last week, I'm convinced its the new Lost. Except its actually answering questions at a very smooth pace. Any Lost fan i urge you to give it a go and watch through Season 1 to catch up to now. It's on Hulu. It's a little slow through Season 1 but works better for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 19, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
This guy who attempted to hijack the plane to prevent it being destroyed ran away because he pilot, who himself was coerced into crashing the plane, told him to or else he will die. "It's not help".
REALLY? Not a single reason was given as to why he should go. You've just been through a plane crash, helicopters and trucks are coming and you're going to believe the pilot who ATTEMPTED TO CRASH YOUR PLANE?

You didn't notice that the pilot was the father of the babe that "this guy" is with?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 19, 2010, 11:43:07 AM
No, but it had been two weeks since i watched episode 1. Shows how much attention i've been paying :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 19, 2010, 12:42:13 PM
It's alright, the first 2 episodes can be a bit confusing, specially the first one. It does get better, less flashbacks, more story development.


Did anybody watch Sanctuary (Season 3 - episode 1)? It was great. I hope it continues to have good episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 20, 2010, 10:51:23 AM
It's alright, the first 2 episodes can be a bit confusing, specially the first one. It does get better, less flashbacks, more story development.

I watched episode 2 of The Event yesterday. What a weird episode. It definitely took a step forward but then almost ruined it with that truck/caravan crash in the middle of the desert for absolutely no reason. Did anybody check to see if the driver was alive or  not? Because it never was mentioned again.

Did anybody watch Sanctuary (Season 3 - episode 1)? It was great. I hope it continues to have good episodes.

I did enjoy Sanctuary too. Sanctuary really feels like the series Heroes could have became. I liked how the ending implied theres other powerful abnormals out there like Big Bertha. It really opens up other avenues where to go and how to lead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 21, 2010, 03:51:42 PM
Out of curiosity after reading the show's summary I watched the only episode (the 10th) that was available where I usually get my episodes. Ugly Americans. It was in cartoon form to my surprise, but I like it. Hey, I would go as far as saying that it's as good as Metalocalypse, but without the Metal music, so at least it does have its own sense of being creative in its own way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 21, 2010, 04:03:55 PM
Great episode (as usual) of Modern Family last night. I thought it was so great when the daughter carved a cell phone out of a piece of black soap. "She Shawshanked us!" And then the parrot comment by the neighbors...so great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2010, 09:40:18 PM
This forum sooooo dead lately. It's a shame.

Latest episode of Community was so good. Episode before that was so stupid. This show is very hit and miss and the last 2 episodes have set the low bar and the high bar for this show for this season so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 23, 2010, 12:15:35 AM
I just finished the first season of Mr. Show with Bob and David, and it's one of the best sketch comedy shows I've ever seen, up there with SNL in its prime and Monty Python.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on October 23, 2010, 12:31:03 AM
I just finished the first season of Mr. Show with Bob and David, and it's one of the best sketch comedy shows I've ever seen, up there with SNL in its prime and Monty Python.

I love Mr. Show, although it rarely makes me laugh out loud - the sketches are super funny, but they're "thinkers" more than gut-busters. There are several exceptions to that though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 24, 2010, 10:28:19 PM
The Good Guys - 8/10

Such a good buddy cop show. I think it's starring Tom Hanks son or much younger brother or something. It kinda look like a family resemblance and they share the same last name. But back to the show... It's about an old-timey off the cuff detective that's been permanently demoted to the property crimes and continually lives on his shining glory of saving the Governors son back in the early 80's being paired up with an ambitious young detective who believes he is unfairly being punished by being paired up with this guy and has more to offer than being stuck in the property crimes division. This show does not take itself too seriously and is not a procedural cop show. Actually, the duo almost always find a way to turn some petty property crime (someone stole my bike, missing air conditioner, petty vandalism) and turn a big case out of it to the dismay of their divisions chief.
It's a very fun show to watch and the chemistry is just perfect.

I think it comes on Fridays on FOX.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on October 25, 2010, 07:57:52 AM
Yep, that's Tom Hanks' son.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 25, 2010, 04:07:48 PM
Star Wars: The Clone Wars - This show just continues to be mediocre this season, some episodes more than others.  The two-parter on Mandalore was pretty much a total wash unless you want to play a drinking game with the number of times the word "Corruption" is said.  Then what do you know?!  The following episode is another prequel episode to a previous season, and not only that, but the ending of that episode makes it clear that the 2-parter in Mandalore was as well.  What the ***, Lucasfilm?!  What is it going to take for you to actually tell an episode in Season 3 that actually takes place after Season 2?  And it's not like the individual episodes have been all that good, either.  Man, this season has been so frustrating, especially after Season 2 kicked so much ass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 25, 2010, 05:03:43 PM
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes!
This show airs on DisneyXD and I found it surprisingly good. There's only been one episode so far (not including the episodes prior to the actual forming of the Avengers) but the action is good, voices are decent, stories compelling, and they even showed the death of Captain America's sidekick Bucky. I say that to say it's not a kiddy interpretaion of the Avengers, it's the real deal. I don't want to give away the villain, but he did a hell of a lot of damage, to the point where people had to have died. I'm very interested to see where they take this show. 7.5/10

Also, anyone watching Dexter this season? I was a little worried to see what not having Rita would mean for the show, but so far, so good, and next episode looks to a doozy. This is my favorite show on T.V right now 9/10.

Speaking of Dexter, the actress who played Rita is now the wife on No Ordinary Family, which I watched and wasn't disappointed, I don't really like the son but everything else is pretty good so far. Tentative 6.8/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 25, 2010, 05:06:04 PM
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes!
This show airs on DisneyXD and I found it surprisingly good. There's only been one episode so far (not including the episodes prior to the actual forming of the Avengers) but the action is good, voices are decent, stories compelling, and they even showed the death of Captain America's sidekick Bucky. I say that to say it's not a kiddy interpretaion of the Avengers, it's the real deal. I don't want to give away the villain, but he did a hell of a lot of damage, to the point where people had to have died. I'm very interested to see where they take this show. 7.5/10

Huh, I didn't know that this show existed.  I'll have to look into it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 25, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
MJ: Dexter has been good, but not great this season. I always liked it when Dexter was always trying to cover his ass and the past few episodes it finally seems like it's getting there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 25, 2010, 06:35:10 PM
I agree that it's been good, and not great, for the same reason, but it was necessary. Rita was so important in his life, she could have been another aspect of his psyche like Harry is. They had to show him taking time to get over it, and of course not really know how to deal with it. Also losing the kids was big for him as they were basically extensions of Rita, and part of his grounding to humanity. Without them, he's gotten a little sloppy, none of his kills have gone smoothly and he's fighting with himself more than ever. I like what Julie Bowen's character (Lumen) is adding to the show, so I'm hopeful for this season.

I just want to give an honorable mention to The Big C which is also on Showtime. Interesting characters so far (except the husband who got slightly more interesting last episode) and a unique storyline.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2010, 07:03:59 PM
I like what Julie Bowen's character (Lumen) is adding to the show, so I'm hopeful for this season.

You mean Julia Stiles? Julie Bowen is the Blonde on Modern Family.

And Dexter has mediocre at best in comparison to past seasons. I haven't seen the preview for next week yet, but they really need to pick it up on this show. There are only 13 episodes and 5 have passed already. I need more drama(not of the Bautista/Laguerta type), suspense and excitement on this show. I know they are getting there and it takes time to build the suspense, but I just want things to pick up sooner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 26, 2010, 12:44:52 PM
Lol yeah I get my blondes mixed up rather easily and I was thinking about posting about Modern Family which I love.

I agree on the Bautista story arc... BORING! If anything they should have continued the IA investigation for punching that guy out rather than this bs with his wife, which he was totally in the right about. Who knows, maybe it'll all come around somehow, Laguerta has always had a thing for Dexter...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2010, 01:40:58 PM
apparently she always had a thing s***ing c*** too.

And once you see that LaGuerta was undercover as a prostitute or a whore of some sort Bautista was probably a little turned on considering how he started his last relationship ;)

But Dexter is known for it's build up to conclusion, so maybe the jealous lover story line ends up working it's way into something much more interesting and not be a drag on the show which is already taking too long to build up something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 26, 2010, 03:17:48 PM
I wouldn't mind the LaGuerta side story if she was hot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2010, 04:02:10 PM
I wouldn't mind the LaGuerta side story if she was hot.
Same goes for Deb.
I know that's MCH's wife and all, but that chick needs to eat a sandwhich or something. That wouldn't fix her "hotness" problem, but atleast she wouldn't look so damn skinny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 26, 2010, 04:24:31 PM
None of the women on Dexter have ever been especially good-looking. Remember that crazy pyro English chick from Season 2? Seriously, here was something wrong with her. Deb looks like a teenage boy, and LaGuerta's eyes are constantly in danger of popping out. I never liked Rita, either. Girl needed to put on some weight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2010, 04:37:40 PM
I thought Lylah (chick from s2) was kinda sexy, but she was a little skinny too.

The hottest chicks I can think of from any season of Dexter is the latina cop that's on this season right now and Quinn's GF last season (Trinity's daughter), the female cop Dex off'd last season ("are you gonna rape me now?") and a not so close fourth would be Rita.

I can't remember any specific examples from season earlier than last season though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 26, 2010, 05:18:11 PM
I think the casting decisions for the characters in Dexter are intentional weird. Everyone in that show has some nasty flaw, some more nasty than others. Ritas personality is reflected in her weak body. Nicer looking the chick is, more insane they are. Deb is a tomboy of sorts.

Besides, it's more realistic not to have a world loaded with 10/10 good looking people.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 26, 2010, 08:18:45 PM
I was with you guys until you started hating on Rita, she's not skinny, she is seriously stacked up top and has a fairly round bottom for a non-thick chick. Face is only a 6 or 7 but I could work with it lol. I also thought Lylah was pretty hot, Quinn's gf last season and Deborah as well but not as much, but I kinda got a thing for thin.

I don't remember what the cop Dexter killed looked like, but I remember thinking she was hot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 26, 2010, 08:30:33 PM
I was with you guys until you started hating on Rita, she's not skinny, she is seriously stacked up top...

"Stacked up top" is not a term one can apply to Rita. Here's a list of actresses/characters it DOES apply to:

1) Joan on Mad Men
2) Salma Hayek's characters on Ugly Betty & 30 Rock
3) Jeri Ryan on Voyager
4) The brunette on Stargate Universe
5) Counselor Troi on Next Generation (to a lesser degree)
6) Sofia Vergara on Modern Family

Standards, man. Get some. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2010, 08:40:07 PM
I don't remember what the cop Dexter killed looked like, but I remember thinking she was hot.

I just looked her up because I didn't really remember what she looked like either. She's not really that hot, but she looked good on Dexter. her name was Christina Cox if you wanna refresh your memory.

And Rita (Julie Benz - now starring on ABC's No Ordinary Family)was not too thin, she was in the area of decent body. not thick, but not skinny, not stacked but definitely not flat, a nice little booty and had an above average face. She is actually probably in her prime right now looks wise too as someone's "hot Mom" or MILF.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 26, 2010, 08:46:02 PM
Seriously, Google image search Julie Benz she's stacked WAY more than Troi from TNG not as much as Sofia Vegara and Christina Hendricks (Joan from Mad Men) but still stacked.

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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 26, 2010, 09:26:24 PM
I thought Julie Benz looked good in Boondocks Saints II. I never thought she was unattractive, but blondes aren't my thing (unless they have an accent).

Deb is way too skinny...sickly so. Eat a steak for god sakes.

The hottest chick in any season thus far is that latina cop BnM mentioned (April Hernandez) and she's not even that hot, she just has a nice booty.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 26, 2010, 11:47:39 PM
Agreed on April Hernandez.

I just finished watching Sons of Anarchy which tonight was a good hour and a half long (though the numbers of commercials leads me to believe there was only like 10mins of extra show).

Very explosive episode, as usual; lots of action, nice plot turns and the deeper involvement of some new characters. I never thought I could get into a show about bikers but this is one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 28, 2010, 12:28:34 PM
Last night's Modern Family, I usually don't like holiday themed episodes, but this show has managed to strike a good balance between the themes and the congruence of the show. Last season's Christmas episode was also well done for a theme show, but I still wish there were no holiday-themed episodes. Just do the shows with no respect to time, or anything else besides the characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 28, 2010, 01:29:49 PM
[size=78%]I liked it, and Raising Hope's Halloween episode was pretty good too.[/size]

[size=78%]I was loving the correction of Gloria's english words as I go through the same thing with my girl sometimes (she's Mexican and sometimes mispronounces stuff - instead of saying "hand me that bag", she might say "hand me that bog" :D ) but her talking in her "American" accent made me appreciate her Colombian accent more. I just wish she would tone down the high pitch JAAAAy come here JAAAAAy (ahhhh my ears... shut that parrot up!!!)[/size]


edit: since I never delivered the Gloria jiggle and shake form a few eps back

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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 29, 2010, 05:25:53 PM
Is she jailbait, or can I legally think she's freaking HOT?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on October 30, 2010, 10:54:42 AM
Is she dressed as Bridgette in that last one?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 30, 2010, 12:50:24 PM
Looks like a slutty mother Theresa to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2010, 01:01:16 PM
Is she jailbait, or can I legally think she's freaking HOT?

She is 19 going on 20 in a few months. She was legal when the show started.

Is she dressed as Bridgette in that last one?

"Mother Teresa...when she was still hot"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: vudu on October 30, 2010, 04:57:53 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v144/kingvudu/bridget.gif)

Sure looks like Bridget to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 31, 2010, 02:23:12 AM
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes!
This show airs on DisneyXD and I found it surprisingly good. There's only been one episode so far (not including the episodes prior to the actual forming of the Avengers) but the action is good, voices are decent, stories compelling, and they even showed the death of Captain America's sidekick Bucky. I say that to say it's not a kiddy interpretaion of the Avengers, it's the real deal. I don't want to give away the villain, but he did a hell of a lot of damage, to the point where people had to have died. I'm very interested to see where they take this show. 7.5/10

Based on your recommendation, I went back and started watching this series and I'm sorry man, but this show is weak (especially compared to the Marvel show that immediately preceded it, Spectacular Spider-Man).  The animation is just "blah" (with some particularly awful action animations that don't look anywhere near as powerful as the reaction they get), the writing is childish at best (and not in a good way like in Spectacular Spider-Man or Justice League), and the voice acting is spotty.  Probably the thing that bugs me most watching it, though, is that I just feel nothing watching it.  I don't hate it, but outside of a few witty lines (uttered by the Hulk of all people) the show's just so...average.  The show's also hit hard by the censorship mallet, as just in these opening episodes there are many times when an attack should have inflict major if not fatal injury that normal people just shrug off (a scene where a woman gets slammed upon by the sharp edge of a giant axe blade comes to mind, which only "slams her into the ground").  And where are the big name villains of the Marvel Universe?  It's pitiful when the biggest named villain I could find was The Crimson Dynamo.  The villains on this show don't look like they'd make a decent C or D-class Rogue's Gallery.  This show makes me very fearful of what Disney will turn out with Ultimate Spider-Man.

That isn't to say it's all bad, though.  Like I said, the writers occasionally slip in a funny line (as mentioned, one line from the Hulk when a villain decides turning his body to rock is a good idea is particularly amusing) and I do like the continuity between episodes.  I also like this duality angle they're exploiting with The Hulk, which hasn't really been done in animation before with the two sides of Banner talking with one another and reasoning through situations.  I'm hoping that this series manages to find a way to make Ant Man and The Wasp not completely and utterly lame, but that's like trying to make Aquaman not totally lame...oh wait...*eyes Justice League*

EDIT:  One other good thing about the series, though: it does have a pretty cool theme song, in that 80s/90s sort of way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 31, 2010, 07:23:32 AM
Yeah, if you were expecting blood, you've come to the wrong show. I don't recall any 'normal' people getting hit with an axe, but there are quite a few 'supers' who could withstand such an attack.

I don't know what your problem is with the voices, Iron Man sounds like Robert Downy Jr and the only people with any inflections in their voice are Hulk and Thor, with only Thor's voice being a little off for me. The other character sound like normal everyday people.

And did you see the first 'official' episode? Gravitron?? If that's not a good enough villain from the Marvel universe to start off a series, I don't know who is.

Anyway, I gave it a 7.5/10 for potential, not exactly a glowing review, but I don't agree with, nor understand your grievances, but feel free to have them. :)

And, I'm very glad to hear that chick from Modern Family is of age. I was having a serious problem with myself for finding her so delectable at what I imagined was a young age. I notice they're using more adults to play children, the chick on No Ordinary Family has been around for awhile in some small roles (at least I've only seen her in such) and her character is around the same age as Cutie McCute Cute on Modern Family.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 31, 2010, 12:06:29 PM
And, I'm very glad to hear that chick from Modern Family is of age. I was having a serious problem with myself for finding her so delectable at what I imagined was a young age. I notice they're using more adults to play children, the chick on No Ordinary Family has been around for awhile in some small roles (at least I've only seen her in such) and her character is around the same age as Cutie McCute Cute on Modern Family.

yep, Kay Panabaker (No Ordinary Family) is 20 years old
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659048/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659048/)

and Sarah Hyland (Modern Family) turns 20 next month
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0405103/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0405103/)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on October 31, 2010, 08:10:07 PM
Neon Genesis Evangelion / End of Evangelion
What in the bluest of blue hells did I just witness / 10

I will say that after reading about Gainax's money and censorship troubles the last few episodes make a little bit of sense, but I'm still freaking lost about everything that happened after about episode 20.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 31, 2010, 08:14:52 PM
Neon Genesis Evangelion / End of Evangelion
What in the bluest of blue hells did I just witness / 10

I will say that after reading about Gainax's money and censorship troubles the last few episodes make a little bit of sense, but I'm still freaking lost about everything that happened after about episode 20.

Honestly, just ditch everything about the original Evangelion series and movies, and look forward to the new movies.  Evangelion 1.11 (the new reboot movie) is pretty awesome and what I've heard of Evangelion 2.0  tells me that they're fixing a lot of the problems the original series had.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 31, 2010, 08:56:51 PM
And, I'm very glad to hear that chick from Modern Family is of age. I was having a serious problem with myself for finding her so delectable at what I imagined was a young age. I notice they're using more adults to play children, the chick on No Ordinary Family has been around for awhile in some small roles (at least I've only seen her in such) and her character is around the same age as Cutie McCute Cute on Modern Family.

yep, Kay Panabaker (No Ordinary Family) is 20 years old
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659048/ (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0659048/)

She looks likes she's 16 in No Ordinary Family. She's cute anyway. What's worse is that in episode 5 there were 2 of her friends that definitely looked like they were not from high school. By the way, is the dad from No Ordinary Family the same guy that played Thing from the Fantastic Four movies?

Edit: LOL Yeah, he is. Go figure why he's playing that role...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 31, 2010, 10:08:03 PM
Dare I say that I liked the Evangelion series and first movie? It was weird, and the story arced (sp?) strangely, but having watched the series twice the beginning explains the end in a strange fashion.

I haven't heard about a reboot movie, but I didn't like the Escaflowne (still my favorite all time anime series) movie which was basically a reboot of the series, or just blatantly incongruent which caught me wildly off guard.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 31, 2010, 11:52:03 PM
I have to second Broodwars suggestion. The reboot has made the original NGE pretty much obsolete. The last 1/4 of the original is BS and the movie they made to show the "real" ending was even more BS. I don't mind a touch of mysticism or psychology, but they went off the deep, then off a cliff. It was Southland Tales before Southland Tales.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 01, 2010, 12:26:34 AM
the walking dead- wishes do come true
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2010, 01:34:50 AM
Six Feet Under - The Entire Series

What a sad sad ending. Everything in this show just continually gets more and more depressing and complex. There were points when I wanted to stop watching, mostly somewhere near the end of the 3rd season and beginning of the 4th, but the 5th season was pretty damn interesting. It's still a trip to see Dexter as an openly Gay man and being the girl in his relationship (PMSing from time to time), but he played the role so damn well along with most everyone in the show. It was really good for what it was and if you like a good drama with interesting characters, this is a series worth checking out.

I have to admit that the death in the beginning of every episode stopped having a point and became just a signature act. there was almost no point to in throughout almost the entire 5th season and probably most of the 4th too.

I give the series as a whole an 8/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 01, 2010, 01:56:26 AM
God, I started hating that show the longer I watched it. Almost too depressing and melodramatic. NOBODY on that show is happy. Despite this, I couldn't stop watching it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2010, 03:40:36 AM
It seriously got to the point where you started expecting the worse to happen, and the minute it sounds like something may be going someones way, you can almost guess what is gonna **** it up.... well not really guess, but you know that something is gonna happen to take the wind out of anybodys potentially happy content sails. They all live under an eternal storm cloud, but yes the show was quite addicting. But to be honest, I never would have finished it if it wasn't for the fact that my girl really liked the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 01, 2010, 09:37:11 AM
I've been meaning to check out Six Feet Under. I don't do the Netflix thing, but this series and others have me contemplating signing up.


How about last night's Dexter?
**Spoiler Alert**
Very nearly gets caught, covers up two murders while giving Deb a good case to wrap up in light of the Fuentes brothers 'failures', the Batista/Laguerta story arc wrapped up in a nice way, Quinn very nearly said 'I love you' to Deb (and the scenes from next weeks episode make it look like he does love her, to the point he may want to call off the disgraced cop), and the back and forth between Dexter and Lumen at the warehouse was freaking hilarious! I actually missed a few lines (before rewinding cuz I love me some Tivo) because I was laughing so much. It seems that in relying on Dexter, Lumen is coming to trust him; she let him touch her face, and didn't completely freak out when he was watching her in the tub, so she could turn into his new love interest, but I'm hoping that either they make a significant amount of time pass before their relationship is known, she dies before that, or gets caught before that (fingerprints on the hose nozzle) and exonerated because of what was done to her, perhaps even make Dexter a hero for freeing her before their relationship starts, for the sake of honoring Rita.

Anyone watching Boardwalk Empire? As a New Jersian I was hoping this show to be good, but it started off painfully slow, I missed two episode (I think 4 & 5) then I got back into it and it's pretty good so far, and last night's episode was particularly good. I like the soldier's returning from war aspect, hopefully it'll shed some more light on the fact that we're still facing the exact same problems today.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2010, 11:43:31 AM
Dexter last night was great.
Masuka FTMFW Autoerotic Mummification!!!? (http://i54.tinypic.com/123xhf5.jpg) where does he come up with this ****?
is that even something real? *loads up Google Search :P: *

but that one wrapped up a little too nice.
I'm not sure how you explain the blood trail and the phone thing and the lack of blood at the scene of the death even though "plastic man shot the other guy while being choked", but I guess that's why they faded out Masukas explanation of what happened. and Dexter responds with "The blood is consistent with Masukas theory" when he supposedly wouldn't have seen any of the blood because it's all in the warehouse, not at the scene of the death.

But finally an episode that I didn't think was just mediocre. Dexter and Lumen were great. Bautista actually surprised me. But I still don't trust Quinn(I have not seen next weeks previews) because I think he is playing Deb and their whole affair is a bullet train with no brakes heading down hill while carrying explosives on a track that dead ends at a cliff.


I'm also watching Boardwalk Empire, but I still need to watch the last 2 episodes. I like the show, but I never watch it on Sundays, usually in the middle of the middle of the week after a few episodes have gone by. I usually have to play catch up. Last episode I saw was that hooker getting her face slashed and then killing herself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on November 02, 2010, 01:44:16 AM
I'm also watching Boardwalk Empire, but I still need to watch the last 2 episodes. I like the show, but I never watch it on Sundays, usually in the middle of the middle of the week after a few episodes have gone by. I usually have to play catch up. Last episode I saw was that hooker getting her face slashed and then killing herself.

The 2 episodes after that were great. Don't miss out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 02, 2010, 09:33:45 PM
Yeah, I was surprised at how easily Masuka filled in the blanks for Dexter's set up, and the funny thing is, when they investigate the guy Dexter was going to kill before Lumen interrupted him, he was into homo-erotic fantasies. Also, Lumen's fingerprints are probably still on the hose nozzle Masuka made a point of telling everyone not to touch and the guy Lumen wanted to kill is connected to Boyd who is a missing city worker, so this might not have wrapped up as easily as they want us to believe.

The episode of Boarwalk Empire with hooker getting her face slashed, is actually the one that convinved me to give the series another try.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 03, 2010, 11:22:52 AM
I'm finally watching Battlestar Galactica. I'm on the third episode after the miniseries. Good stuff so far, I like their depiction of a future with FTL travel and advanced robots alongside neckties, dry erase boards and wired telephones.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 03, 2010, 11:29:48 AM
I'm finally watching Battlestar Galactica. I'm on the third episode after the miniseries. Good stuff so far, I like their depiction of a future with FTL travel and advanced robots alongside neckties, dry erase boards and wired telephones.

My advice is to watch to the end of Season 2 and just stop.  Though the show did have standout episodes after that point, to me the show stopped being "fun" after Season 2 and started trying to be "about something" and just turned pretentious.  IMO, the show went downhill after Season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 03, 2010, 01:50:46 PM
You can't just stop at that point. Season 2 ends with a massive cliffhanger; I don't think you can just walk away without seeing how it's resolved. Also, my favorite episode of the series, the Exodus two-parter, happens a few episodes into season 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 03, 2010, 03:06:26 PM
Haha yeah Masuka's little charades was hysterical, as was Lumen and Dexter fighting. Great episode can't wait to see how it all ends.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 03, 2010, 05:11:21 PM
Yeah I'm positive I will watch the whole thing. I don't mind when shows try to be "about something". It might annoy me but it'd be worse to not have the story finished.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Armak88 on November 06, 2010, 01:33:31 AM
I just finished watching the first season of Community. It started off a little slow. I was enjoying it, but I didn't find that I was laughing very often. By the fourth episode though, things really started clicking and it just kept getting better every episode after that. The cast chemistry is really great. I feel like it is difficult for a cast of seven main characters to be fair to each one, but I really felt like there was no weak link in the line up. At some point in the series every character had moments that I enjoyed or found funny. Highlights for me were the chicken finger mafia episode, the paint ball episode and Allison Brie's cleavage in the debate episode. I look forward to season two.     4/5
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2010, 07:36:14 PM
Misfits - 9/10

It's a UK show about some young adults that have to do community service and get struck by lightning and get some sort of "super" power. It's only a 6 episode first season, but every episode is good. Everyone that gets affected by the storm seemed to be affected by how they felt at the time of the storm..... all except for one guy who can't seem to figure out why he didn't get a super power. He also happens to be the comic relief of the series and a total and complete fuckin prick. The characters are so good but there is one chick whose accent is so horrid that I can't help but make fun of her. High recommendations for this one... If you can figure out how to watch it.


edit: S2 just started too and so far so good except why would there be a pipe like that in the locker room? that makes no sense.

and this is one of the many reasons why I like to watch this show:
(http://imgur.com/R3Z8e.jpg)

and here is where you can try to watch the show:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/misfits/4od#3009365

and this is the shows website:
http://www.e4.com/misfits/index.html
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 13, 2010, 10:07:42 PM
Well, we're 9 episodes into Clone Wars: Season 1.5 (aka "Season 3") and the show just continues to find new ways to suck, the latest episode having the romance between an effeminate Hutt and that long-mouthed alien singer from Jabba's palace as a central part of the story.  Yeah...it's like Lucasfilm is going out of their way to try to kill any awesomeness this show acquired towards the end of Season 1 and Season 2.   :@

A show that is not sucking at the moment, though, is Disney's Avengers cartoon.  You might remember that I was very critical of this show, and I don't believe I was wrong in the slightest for finding the early episodes mediocre.  However, 10 episodes in the show seems to be settling into a comfortable groove and we're starting to see some genuinely good character interaction and some decent fight scenes.  Honestly, it reminds me a lot of the first season of Justice League: very rough and generic early on, but gradually things are beginning to gel and the writing is getting better.  Check it out if you're into Superhero animation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 14, 2010, 11:19:12 AM
A show that is not sucking at the moment, though, is Disney's Avengers cartoon.  You might remember that I was very critical of this show, and I don't believe I was wrong in the slightest for finding the early episodes mediocre.  However, 10 episodes in the show seems to be settling into a comfortable groove and we're starting to see some genuinely good character interaction and some decent fight scenes.  Honestly, it reminds me a lot of the first season of Justice League: very rough and generic early on, but gradually things are beginning to gel and the writing is getting better.  Check it out if you're into Superhero animation.

Glad to see you've come around :)

It might help to know that there have only really been 5 episodes so far in the main story, and the other 5 were introductory episodes that were originally 5 minutes long, and then compiled into full episodes after the series official launch.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Avengers:_Earth's_Mightiest_Heroes_episodes

They have a summary of the next episode there as well... I was disappointed to read despite knowing that it had to be coming eventually.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2010, 06:44:28 PM
Misfits - 9/10

It's a UK show about some young adults that have to do community service and get struck by lightning and get some sort of "super" power. It's only a 6 episode first season, but every episode is good. Everyone that gets affected by the storm seemed to be affected by how they felt at the time of the storm..... all except for one guy who can't seem to figure out why he didn't get a super power. He also happens to be the comic relief of the series and a total and complete fuckin prick. The characters are so good but there is one chick whose accent is so horrid that I can't help but make fun of her. High recommendations for this one... If you can figure out how to watch it.


edit: S2 just started too and so far so good except why would there be a pipe like that in the locker room? that makes no sense.

and this is one of the many reasons why I like to watch this show:
(http://imgur.com/R3Z8e.jpg)

and here is where you can try to watch the show:
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/misfits/4od#3009365 (http://www.channel4.com/programmes/misfits/4od#3009365)

and this is the shows website:
http://www.e4.com/misfits/index.html (http://www.e4.com/misfits/index.html)

I just wanted to temp all of you into checking this show out one more time.

The scene that makes the other chick such a draw to this show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0t2YVRHAZY&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0t2YVRHAZY&feature=related)

^just watch it^


p.s. NSFW
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 14, 2010, 08:49:32 PM
Just wondering if anyone is watching No Ordinary Family?

The title sucks, and I am worried that it'll turn into another Heroes, but right now they're doing a good job of combining family drama, super powers, and suspensful intrigue. On those three fonts I would say the show is working because none of them are taking the front seat, and are instead sharing it.

Every episode so far has shown their typical year 2000+ family issues, the advancing of their powers, and given small pieces of the overall picture of what's going on in the world around them and the mystery of their powers. Not so much on that last part in the most recent episode actually, but I would recomend this show and it's on Hulu, so you can watch the 1st episode and decide.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 14, 2010, 08:58:37 PM
Ever since teh son has come out to his family the show has gotten better. They dragged that on for too long and it was really working my nerves. I'm really liking the show so far though and after the last episode, you can really see the family starting to accept that they are different but that they can use it to be a better family and not just a family of freaks.

the show I linked above (Misfits) is better though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: greybrick on November 15, 2010, 04:00:38 AM
after the miniseries.

I just realized that I have been misreading the word, "miniseries" my entire life, and for some reason I thought it meant something entirely different than, "mini-series."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2010, 04:58:07 AM
Dexter

This is the best show on television. It's always been on the up and up with few disappointments. Can't wait for next weeks episode!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on November 15, 2010, 06:21:01 AM
Dexter

This is the best show on television. It's always been on the up and up with few disappointments. Can't wait for next weeks episode!

Definitely. What I love about it is that each season has a different feel to it. I was afraid the quality would go down with the departure of the creator but this season is shaping up to be great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 15, 2010, 07:52:20 AM
Undercovers:

Its episode 8 into a 13 episode season. Still no story arc. The lead actors are still a sight to behold but this just isn't clicking. It's already been reported that NBC isn't ordering any more yet gave The Event a full 22? episode season order WTF man! so the format clearly isn't resonating.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2010, 08:21:26 AM
I heard that Undercovers was already cancelled and they are gonna continue to air the remaining episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 15, 2010, 09:13:49 AM
I haven't seen an official cancellation announcement, but "not ordering any more episodes" usually amounts to the same thing.

The irony is, i looked at the entire credits and quite a lot of the producers and writers actually moved over from Lost.

Stargate Universe: THIS is the new Lost. Only it's doing it a lot better in terms of story development. It's just episode 2
7 of season 2 and they just revealed the purpose of the Destiny. For the equivalent on Lost it came about in Season 5.  I know Season 1 has had a lot of whining and moaning and bitching by the characters but as season 2 kicked off there's a lot of story elements and a gradual and smooth progression into the series arc. A lot of the undesirable elements have been toned down quite heavily.

I wish i could get more NWR folk to watch it but it appears the "cheesyness" of Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis (Atlantis in particular) has put people off from SGU.  To put it differently, SGU has the best actors, the better set and lighting and the better CGI talent. Not many shows can grab Robert Carlyle and Louis Fererra (who off-camera is a complete clown playing pranks on the cast/crew yet on-screen is very sour faced and ragged) and put them against each other.

I wish more people would watch, or at least give it a try.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 15, 2010, 09:44:10 AM
I love SGU. The characters are amazingly complex. Just as I like someone, they do something to rub me the wrong way. There are a lot of them I don't like, but respect. I am only barely halfway through season 1 on free to air TV, but at this point, I really can't just pick a guy and root for.

I use to be firmly in Dr Rushes camp, but his increasingly apparent lack of ethics/stability is starting to make me think twice. Col Young on the other hand I never really liked because he always comes off as weak and is always strong at the wrong moment. Not saying Rushe is always right, but Young's lack of real leadership make me wonder how he made Colonel in the first place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 15, 2010, 09:48:38 AM
I watched the first season of Battlestar Galactica (the 2000s version, not 1970s), and I don't see what all the fuss was about. There were some good episodes, but overall the season did not make me interested enough to continue on with the series. Maybe it gets better? The first season of Seinfeld sucked, but it became a great show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 15, 2010, 10:48:03 AM
Last night's Dexter was one of the best episodes so far this season!

**Spoiler Alert**

It is going to be very interesting from here on out. Quinn knows Lumen's name, her prints were pulled off the hose nozzle from two episodes ago, and he seems to be falling hard for Deborah, the only thing I didn't like was his fear of the investigating cop, what happened to him being a borderline dirty cop? Why should he not be able to threaten an aging and disgraced ex-cop, especially one who is trying to extort him and threatening his girlfriend? I also liked how Lumen was tentative about seeing Dexter kill and being a part of his world, and Deborah's internal conflict about killing that guy. I can't believe the spanish cop sold out Deb and Batista is going to back her, but it does fit both characters. I wonder if Dexter is going to kill Quinn and his the old guy or if Deb will kill them to protect Dex, or if Quinn will kill the old guy and turn a blind eye to his suspicions about Dex for Deb's sake. Whatever happens, I love this friggin show!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 15, 2010, 01:22:48 PM
The Walking Dead

I've been downloading the episodes thus far, as I don't subscribe to any sort of television service. I had read the first sixty or so issues of the comic a while ago. From what I can recall, the show seems to be following the source pretty well. The acting is definitely up there, and the whole thing has a great look to it, both in the cinematography and the special effects (ie: not a lot of ridiculous CGI). It's directed as if it were a film, not a television show, and that helps it a lot. The pacing is slow, but so was the comic. This isn't a zombie killing splatter-fest, it's a character drama with the zombie apocalypse as a backdrop. I'd definitely recommend watching at least the first two episodes before deciding whether or not it's for you.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2010, 04:37:28 PM
I haven't seen an official cancellation announcement, but "not ordering any more episodes" usually amounts to the same thing.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/blogs/live-feed/nbc-pulls-plug-undercovers-35799

Re: Dexter
Last nights episode was good, but how are they gonna explain the busted doors inbetween rooms when they realize head of security is missing and how did Robocop get pics of Dexter onthe boat when Dex usually heads out to sea to catch the gulf stream (ever since his last "burial ground" was found)?

Re: The Walking Dead
ep3 was good other than the whole cutting off the hand part. Who even not in their right mind wouldn't try to saw the handcuffs off before jumping to the last resort and cutting off your own freaking hand. You might even try breaking your own thumb to slip out of the cuffs before you cut your freaking hand off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2010, 05:56:52 PM
BnM - I wondered that too. In fact, I remember saying "That's one hell of a camera." As for the door, I'm ok with the assumption that Dexter either fixed it or thinks it's alright.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2010, 06:04:09 PM
BnM - I wondered that too. In fact, I remember saying "That's one hell of a camera." As for the door, I'm ok with the assumption that Dexter either fixed it or thinks it's alright.

I'm guessing that he got pictures of them boarding the boat but probably not dumping anything even though the first pic is directly after they dumped(bad editing?). It would be pretty sloppy of the writers to forget how careful Dex is about dumping after the whole Bay Harbor Butcher case.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 15, 2010, 06:44:55 PM
With the broken door (he would only had to break the one on Dexter's side), the camera (though it was definitely that ginormous lense) and the hose nozzle, it seems to me that Lumen is breaking Dexter's focus and making him a little sloppy. He hasn't even seen the Harry side of himself for two(?) episodes, and neither has he been very concerned about Harrison and his development; everything is about Lumen. I understand that it's because he's been searching for someone like Lumen who could see who he is and not be repulsed or destroyed by it and he's sort of become mesmerized by her, but with Quinn having him tracked it's becoming a liability.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 18, 2010, 05:45:12 PM
Modern Family - *bouncy bouncy*

More than any other episode, this one featured Sofia Vergara's rack. So I loved it, naturally. But as usual, it was hilarious. Cam is so great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 18, 2010, 10:58:26 PM
on walking dead

who would cut off a limb to escape?

haha, to answer your question...theres a whole movie out right now based on that idea

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlhLOWTnVoQ

even though this didn't happen in the comic book...i have a pretty good idea where this is leading

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 18, 2010, 11:17:35 PM
^if that's you response to what I said about The Walking Dead, then you've completely missed the point I was making.
also 127 days involved breaking the arm so that the bone didn't have to be sawed through. he absolutely exhausted every other option before even coming to the conclusion that he needed to break and then saw off his own arm to ultimately survive.


I don't know if the movie followed that arm breaking part, but that's what happened in the actual story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 19, 2010, 11:18:46 AM
@Halbred
Agreed on Sofia's rack, but I thought this episode was a little weak on the comedy (except Cam as you mentioned) while doing a better job of showing their ties as a family. Good episode, just not terribly funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 19, 2010, 11:37:37 AM
oh wow, i did miss the point haha. Yeah, that Mearle was kinda dumb, but the hand was kinda gory as in not the cleanest cut. He might have chewed his own hand off. He might not have accessed to the saw. Then again, he should have just chewed his thumb off. Also, at the end of the first season I don't expect anyone to be in their right mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 19, 2010, 06:01:21 PM
The metal bar looked thin enough to get through with a hacksaw. It sure would have been easier to cut than his own flesh and bone. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 19, 2010, 06:30:21 PM
You ask "Who in their right mind would do that?" but he clearly wasn't in his right mind, as evidenced by his deliriousness earlier in the episode, as well as sheer terror from seeing the zombies at the door.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2010, 07:45:23 PM
wrong. that's not what I said.

Re: The Walking Dead
ep3 was good other than the whole cutting off the hand part. Who even not in their right mind wouldn't try to saw the handcuffs off before jumping to the last resort and cutting off your own freaking hand. You might even try breaking your own thumb to slip out of the cuffs before you cut your freaking hand off.

I know he wasn't in his right mind(that is what I said), but he also knew that his danger wasn't immediate from the zombies considering they had been having trouble getting through the door the entire time he was struggling. even the craziest of crazy people would explore other options if they knew they didn't need to be out of the cuffs in 2 seconds.

But I don't want to argue over that. Either they explain it in the next episode or they were following some storyline from the comic, but still, it just seems like lazy writing that could have easily been avoided by showing cut marks on the cuffs and on the bar.


It's the same type of bad writing that I had issue with on this weeks No Ordinary Family too.
I don't know if anyone here is watching that show too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 19, 2010, 07:54:33 PM
I'm sorry, I misread what you said. Still, I think it's odd to assume that he would be thinking clearly enough in that situation to make that decision, and that it's a bit overly critical to call it lazy writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2010, 08:46:27 PM
Overly critical to think that even in the most stressed out situations where death is not an immediate threat, you wouldn't automatically jump to cutting your own hand off instead of atleast trying to cut the cuffs or the bar they are attached to? maybe breaking your own thumb or something like that?

This ain't Evil Dead and he ain't Ash, and I got the impression that they were going for a "realistic" approach to surviving a Zombie Apocalypse. A man with only one hand will have a lot harder time defending himself when push comes to shove or run comes to climb.

The lazy part of the writing is not the cutting off of the hand, but the skipping what led to it. If they show what happens this week, then fine, but otherwise it really only would have taken a few attentions to details to not even have the thought come up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 19, 2010, 09:03:49 PM
I don't think he saw it as a situation where death wasn't an immediate threat. He didn't see what the other guy did to lock the door so he didn't know how secure it was, and it doesn't seem like the kind of situation where you assume that you have time and are safe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 19, 2010, 10:07:33 PM
This ain't Evil Dead and he ain't Ash [...]

Ain't that the truth. Now I want a Marvel Zombies miniseries... the Evil Dead based prequel to that was great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 19, 2010, 11:09:36 PM
Just finished BSG S2.5 E6 , I can't believe they killed Billy! :( :( 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 19, 2010, 11:24:45 PM
Oh man, I would love to be able to watch BSG for the first time again. You're getting into the best part of the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 21, 2010, 02:25:02 AM
Skins - 8.5/10

I watched this show because I recently got into another UK show by the name of Misfits, and the way Misfits was described to me was "Skins with a heroic twist", so I decided that since I like Misfits so much, maybe I should check out Skins too. Well I went into Skins not knowing anything about it other than it was another UK show. A few episodes in and I wasn't 100% sold, but for some reason I just had to keep watching it. teens finishing their 2 years of College (equivalent of American 11th & 12th grade I think) who are involved in everything a normal teen is into back those days.... drugs, sex, more drugs, liquor, smoking, did I say drugs, girls/boys, partying & drugs.

The first 2 seasons were pretty good, good enough to keep me interested, but the 3rd season was probably my favorite. The first 2 seasons focus on 6 or 7 teens, and then the 3rd & 4th carry on by focusing on the sister of one of the 1st 2 seasons main characters and all her new friends as she starts the College her brother just graduated from. I wasn't really a fan of the 4th season outside of 2 episodes (Cook & JJ), but Oh **** at the way it ended.

My girl tried to relate it to Degrassi (which I've never seen), but I was told that this was nothing like Degrassi since it's actually good and the only similarity is that it follow kids in "High School". Very good watch. Looking forward to the 1st episode of s5 just to see the resolution of the end of s4.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 21, 2010, 12:21:26 PM
Just finished BSG season 2.5, WOW the plot really took a hard left turn didn't it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 21, 2010, 01:29:00 PM
My girl tried to relate it to Degrassi (which I've never seen), but I was told that this was nothing like Degrassi since it's actually good and the only similarity is that it follow kids in "High School".

I'm pretty sure that Degrassi is a melodrama aimed at tweens. No high-school show will ever be better than Freaks and Geeks. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 22, 2010, 03:19:13 PM
Fringe just got moved to the friday night death slot. Not because it was performing badly but because they wanted to give American Idol "more market".

Goodbye Fringe. It's been fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 22, 2010, 03:33:24 PM
Fringe just got moved to the friday night death slot. Not because it was performing badly but because they wanted to give American Idol "more market".

Goodbye Fringe. It's been fun.

Honestly, I'm surprised that Fox has given this show 3 years.  This season has been ok, but it took too long to shed its "X-Files" facade and get into the real meat of the story.  Farewell, Fringe.  I shall miss mocking the absurdity of your increasingly-obtrusive location title cards.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 22, 2010, 04:13:00 PM
I agree it took too long.

And those location cards got more and more blatant. I'm only early season 2 but i eventually started looking for where it'll be spliced in.

Random sidebar: I HATE the new Sanctuary theme tune.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 22, 2010, 05:00:56 PM
Smallville has actually thrived on Friday nites over the last few years and even Supernatural its doing fine.

So don't write it off just yet
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 22, 2010, 07:40:29 PM
Funny you say that about Smallville. I use to hate it, but when they finally moved away from all the teenage melodrama  ie, moved to Metropolis, I have become regular to the show.

Also with the proliferation of DVRs that are easy to use with multiple tuners and digital TV, time slots are becoming less and less of an issue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 22, 2010, 08:07:44 PM
True. With DVR, On Demand and Internet Streaming, when a show comes on is becoming less and less important.

If Fridays weren't a death sentence for the struggling Smallville 5 years ago till today, then Fringe may still have a chance.

What needs to change though is the Neilsen data collecting. They should just track everyone with a cable box/DVR, all online streaming from advertising sources like Hulu or the network websites. It's all digital nowadays so it really should be that hard to step the rating tracking into 2010 and out of 1985.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 23, 2010, 01:24:48 AM
Dexter

It was a decent filler episode up until the last minute. That's when it got fucking AWESOME!

Can't wait for next week!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 23, 2010, 01:56:29 AM
The Walking Dead is the best show on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2010, 02:48:03 AM
Dexter

It was a decent filler episode up until the last minute. That's when it got fucking AWESOME!

Can't wait for next week!

Agreed. I was also a little surprised that it was Astor that showed up. Dexter handling the friends mom's BF was great too.

The Walking Dead is the best show on television.

I don't exactly agree with that, but yesterdays episode was exactly what I want more of from this show. Slightly unexpected twist and lots of Zombie killings (that goes both ways). Great episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 23, 2010, 03:03:16 AM
Were you satisfied with the explanation they gave for the guy sawing off his hand?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2010, 03:09:55 AM
Were you satisfied with the explanation they gave for the guy sawing off his hand?

It is what it is, but at least they explained it.
I was just hoping they didn't gloss over it since it only took 3 seconds to explain or show what happened, and they gave a reason, so I'll accept it for what it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 23, 2010, 05:08:29 AM
What needs to change though is the Neilsen data collecting. They should just track everyone with a cable box/DVR, all online streaming from advertising sources like Hulu or the network websites. It's all digital nowadays so it really should be that hard to step the rating tracking into 2010 and out of 1985.

Bingo. People are saying that Stargate Universe is failing because 1# its an expensive show (at $1+ million per episode) and 2# it only gets ~1 million viewers live. When they looked at the numbers including DVR's (Live + 7 days) it registered a 78% increase. Hulu and other means push it up even further. But none of those numbers are considered important because in the case of SGU (or any other TV show except for those produced by commercial-free channels like the BBC) because none of them generate revenue for the network producing it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 23, 2010, 10:33:17 AM
Why doesn't Hulu generate revenue for the network? Shows on Hulu have ads. Are the networks getting no ad revenue from that?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 23, 2010, 11:12:09 AM
They do, and they also get from DVR as well, but less, through their blatant use of products during the show (like how often you see the Ford sign on Fringe).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 23, 2010, 03:19:29 PM
Two of the executive producers of SGU have actually said something along the lines of "'oh i went and downloaded it' doesn't help us. the only way to keep SGU is to watch it live". The other said that DVD sales and online streamings all help to mould its decision on renewal but do nothing to directly influence SyFy into keeping it.

This probably may differ on other shows, as MGM licenses the Stargate name to SyFy to use, but overall its sttill pretty accurate given how nielsen ratings are only measured by faces in front of boxes (and not how any faces in front of said boxes).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2010, 03:42:27 PM
Another really GOOD show in desperate need of LIVE viewers is Terriers on FX.

I believe it from one of the creators of The Shield and they also asked for live viewers if you want to help ratings.
I don't know if any of you watch that show, but it's not about dogs in literal sense.

It's about an Ex-Cop working with an Ex-Con as private detectives in a Southern California city. It's definitely worth checking out Wednesday nites at 10pm on FX.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 23, 2010, 08:08:10 PM
I don't get FX, so I can't watch their shows on TV.

As for Nielsen ratings, i've always had a problem with the fact that a few thousand households are used to predict what the entire country watches. I would support just tracking everyone with their cable/satellite packages, I have a feeling that some people would start complaining about big brother.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2010, 08:38:26 PM
But the cable companies already track cable box and DVR usage anyways. might as well make that the official rating to go by.

It also might speak well for shows on NBC (i.e. Chuck) when Comcast takes over, because they have direct viewership records so they know exactly who is watching what and can judge a show on actual ratings instead of just extrapolated ratings based on the television habits of a few people.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 23, 2010, 09:18:08 PM
Human Target, A revisit season 1

I was pretty harsh and critical of this show when I first saw it and in many ways I still am. The main arc took far too long to pick up. The situations/writing is still pretty poor and generally contrived. The show has little charm. Blackmild2k1 gave me enough of a nudge to keep it at least in the back ground.

However, one thing has saved it. It's season end episode. This episode finally breaks away from it's original contrived, repeating plot lines of death trap(s) of the week to what the meat of the show really should have been. Who is Christopher Chance. Who his support team is and how they relate to CC. CC's origins.

All said, it's still a poor show, but it might have finally found it's feet and is rubbish if you compare it to the much superior Burn Notice. It's still background watching, but I rescind the death wish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 24, 2010, 12:46:27 AM
The Walking Dead is the best show on television.

I think that it has the potential to be. It's still too early for me to really decide however. Truthfully though, I'm not too fond of 99% of what's on television. I download the handful of shows that I'm interested in, and supplement my movies with NetFlix. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2010, 02:50:26 AM
There are still 2 shows I keep hearing about that I wanna check out in the near future.

1 is Mad Men and the other is Breaking Bad.

I've seen one of the episodes from teh 1st season of Breaking Bad and it looked pretty cool, so I might check that on out first.
Anybody have opinions on those 2 shows?


Re: Human Target - I think it's a fun show. It's not deep or anything but I would liken it to popcorn television. It was almost all action almost all the time. Supposedly they have made some changes behind the scenes and with the screen with this show. They added 2 female characters and want to focus less on the action bits, so it might appeal to your taste more now, but it's still too early to tell since there has only been 1 episode of season 2 so far.


No Ordinary Family was mostly a filler episode tonite. But what was the guys power that is keeping an eye on the family?
And why was the dad still going out without a mask on? wasn't the scare of the last guy seeing his face enough to make him think that maybe he should hide his identity if he is gonna be going out to fight crime? and what did he do with the car jackers? they got a good look at him and saw him use the powers in the bright of day. No way to avoid being identified unless he didn't actually turn them in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 24, 2010, 04:49:37 AM
I don't mind action, just not how they do it in Human Target with it's asinine setups. It's like a nine year old writing an action sequence with each scene and twist "Bigger" and more contrived than the last. There is nothing technically wrong with the action, people get shot die, thrown out of windows etc, but it's like watching bad pxxx, it's got people going at it, the lighting is good, the camera work is a bit utilitarian, the female looks good, but damn, there is nothing exciting about it. You just don't care.

In many ways it's is the same show as Burn Notice, but it lacks any real charm, cleverness or intrigue you expect out of it. But with the season final, it finally got some of that, so hopefully it is mostly a first season issue.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 24, 2010, 05:30:42 AM
There are still 2 shows I keep hearing about that I wanna check out in the near future.

1 is Mad Men and the other is Breaking Bad.

I've seen one of the episodes from teh 1st season of Breaking Bad and it looked pretty cool, so I might check that on out first.
Anybody have opinions on those 2 shows?


I watched the pilot of Breaking Bad on the advice of the same friend that got me to start watching The Walking Dead and loved it, but I haven't gotten back to it because I've been pretty busy. I've been using my current term break to get caught up with some stuff, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. I recently picked up the complete series of The Wire on DVD pretty cheap based on near-universal praise, so I'll probably do that, then Breaking Bad, and then probably Mad Men, which I too have heard great things about.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 24, 2010, 11:34:35 AM
@BnM re: No Ordinary Family

The guy following the family is telekinetic, they haven't explicitly said so, but that what it looks like. Also, about the mask, I assume they are using the reasoning from the previous episode with the mobster about people seeing him; who will believe you, how do you find him, and how do you prove it? Lastly, what annoyed me was why ***spolier alert*** the wife's lip gloss caused an allergic reaction in Jim, but not in her. They plainly showed that the chemical affected the plant that gave them powers, and not just Jim uniquely. Other than that I liked it, except the asshole teacher having a hot wife...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2010, 12:13:09 PM
@BnM re: No Ordinary Family

The guy following the family is telekinetic, they haven't explicitly said so, but that what it looks like. Also, about the mask, I assume they are using the reasoning from the previous episode with the mobster about people seeing him; who will believe you, how do you find him, and how do you prove it?

I still thinks it's stupid. Anybody could see him jumping all over town and landing loudly on the roofs of buildings, not just the criminals. I hope some people recognize him on the street one day when he's just minding his own business. His boss (Guierrmo from Weeds) is already suspicious of his actions, so having someone come in to the station to describe the man they saw do something impossible (like land in the middle of an alley from somewhere over the building across the street, or get shot 7 times and not go down or pick up a van and toss it or stop a speeding car in it's tracks) then point out the sketch artist as the guy they saw would probably be a very bad idea and a good reason to conceal his identity while out doing things out of the ordinary.


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Lastly, what annoyed me was why ***spolier alert*** the wife's lip gloss caused an allergic reaction in Jim, but not in her. They plainly showed that the chemical affected the plant that gave them powers, and not just Jim uniquely. Other than that I liked it, except the asshole teacher having a hot wife...
I was talking to my girl about that. She said it was because she put it on and it got inside of him somehow. I said BS. They all got their powers from the same source so i fit doesn't affect her externally, then it shouldn't affect him either. It's not like he was licking the gloss off her lips and eating it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 24, 2010, 03:59:15 PM
So the lip gloss got "inside" of him "somehow"... aye? Hawt.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 30, 2010, 03:07:31 PM
Finished BSG, enjoyed it. I'm not sure why so many people seem to dislike the ending.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 30, 2010, 03:09:18 PM
Finished BSG, enjoyed it. I'm not sure why so many people seem to dislike the ending.

It's pretentious, overblown, and underwhelming.  The second half of the final episode just obliterates anything awesome about the first half.  On second thought, I think that just about sums up the last season in general.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 30, 2010, 05:45:08 PM
I liked BSG's ending, partially because it was one of the possible endings I came up with early in the run of the series. Pretty heavy deus ex machina, but it can be forgiven a bit considering the spiritual undertones of the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 30, 2010, 06:14:24 PM
Dexter: 10.1/10
I loved how the interactions between Dex and Lumen turned murder into normal couple conversation. I honestly thought Lumen was about to ask if her outfit made her look butt look big.

***SPOILER ALERT***
I wish they would have shown the old cop planting the cameras because it took me by surprise that he had done so, so simply, but as I said before, I think Lumen is making Dexter a little sloppy.

I also wish they had waited one more episode for Dex and Lumen to hook up for the memory of Rita's sake, but I'm guessing watching her own rape was as therapeutic for Lumen as Dexter discovering all the details surrounding his mother's murder. Facing your demons does make them easier to deal with, but it still seemed a little sudden.

This by leaps and bounds the best show on television, and it makes me sad that there are only two episodes left this season, and there are rumors that the next season may be the last.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on November 30, 2010, 06:56:03 PM
Currently watching 3rd Season of Mad Men (just finished episode 9) on Netflix.


Good show.  It's got issues, and the storylines aren't always believable... but the characters are interesting enough to make up for the shortcomings.  I often find myself drawn in farther and the plot deserves.  Highly recommended, and good enough to justify the Netflix service even if we didn't watch other stuff too.






Regarding the final season (and more specifically, the final episode) of Battlestar Galactica, I also disliked it.  The "answers" they gave weren't satisfying and felt like a hollow resolution because the writers didn't plan well enough to provide a more compelling end to a tremendous show.  True: things are resolved well enough to end the series... but it just didn't give any sense of payoff after investing so much time in the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 01, 2010, 08:50:29 AM
OK, seriously, the Season 3 opening theme music for Sanctuary is unbelievably bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 01, 2010, 11:58:04 AM
But this season's great so far. Who cares about the opening. It's an acceptable trade-off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 01, 2010, 06:13:57 PM
The last episode was fantastic. Gasp.

FINE! You win.

For a 160 year old woman Helen Magnus can seriously kick ass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: RABicle on December 02, 2010, 02:29:31 PM
Ok so I jsut watched the first 4 seasons of 30 Rock. I rate it the funniest american show I've ever watched. Everything about it is the best.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 02, 2010, 04:30:42 PM
This season of SGU is also great, and I'm just waiting for Destiny to transform into Voltron at one point or another.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 02, 2010, 06:58:58 PM
Ok so I jsut watched the first 4 seasons of 30 Rock. I rate it the funniest american show I've ever watched. Everything about it is the best.

Yes, it's unbelievable how good the writing on that show is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 02, 2010, 07:06:01 PM
Ok so I jsut watched the first 4 seasons of 30 Rock. I rate it the funniest american show I've ever watched. Everything about it is the best.

You should watch It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, which is the one comedy on TV right now I consider better than 30 ROck.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on December 04, 2010, 02:35:30 AM
So I've watched a fair bit since I last posted here so I'm afraid it might be a bit of a longish one (by my standards at least).

Six Feet Under (Seasons 1-5): I watched this after a bunch of recomendations from friends. I'm not sure if I liked it, but I think that might have been the point. These unlikable characters doing fairly unlikable things, but remaining interesting at the same time. Looking back I'm not sure there was one character that I liked for the entire run, I think Nate was the closest I got, but he defintely had story arcs that shitted me off to no end. The only character that frustrated me the entire time was Ruth, man I wanted her to die, so bad. From the very first episode everything that woman did shat me to tears.

It's a weird show, that definitely made me think, but I'm not sure I liked it.

Community (Season 1): My brother bought the DVD and I had seen one episode and didn't vomit so I decided to watch this based on pretty much nothing. It was a pleasant surprise. I enjoy the mish-mash of crazy characters, doing crazy things in a quasi-realistic setting. It's pretty cool how they can do episodes like the paintball one and not make it seem unrealistic in the scheme of the show. Those zanier episodes weren't really my favourite ones though, and to unfortunatley they already have seemed to make a few more in season 2.

7.5/10

Eastbound & Down (Season 1): I love this show. I don;t know what it, but anything Danny McBride says I find instantly funny. Something about the phrasing or delivery I guess. Kenny Powers is over-the-top, crude and outrageous, but the show can be surprisingly dramatic at times, which is why I think it works so well. I've watched the first two episodes of Season 2, I'm missing April already.

8.5/10

Eh, I have more but I cbf writing' them now. I might later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 04, 2010, 08:01:21 PM
Parks and Recreation Season 2, quite good. I'm loving the cast, especially Aubrey Plaza and Nick Offerman, but everyone's pretty great. Marked improvement over the first season, as they've fleshed Amy Poehler's character into something more than a female Michael Scott. It's a good watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 04, 2010, 08:45:05 PM
I stopped watching Parks & Rec pretty early on when it became clear it was a complete ripoff of The Office; the assertions of the Newscast and this thread that they've fixed that are making me want to give the show another shot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 04, 2010, 08:49:09 PM
Bones season 5

Lovin' it so far. Booth is dealing with the repercussions of a brain tumor removal. Gordon Gordons (the always imaculate Stephen Fry) shows up in one episode. He's always welcome. There was an interesting episode that's obviously inspired by King of Kong (the bad guy has an American flag tie) while simultaneously advertising Avatar. Bones is trying to show 'em off more than usual this season, which I appreciate. She's growing as a character (finally), become more empathetic. God, Emily Deschannel is so goddamn gorgeous.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 04, 2010, 08:53:24 PM
I stopped watching Parks & Rec pretty early on when it became clear it was a complete ripoff of The Office; the assertions of the Newscast and this thread that they've fixed that are making me want to give the show another shot.

I agree with Andy that S2 is a lot better than S1, and there are several characters who don't have equivalents in The Office. To be honest though I'm not sure I'd still be watching if Aubrey Plaza wasn't in it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 06, 2010, 08:15:13 AM
This season of SGU is also great, and I'm just waiting for Destiny to transform into Voltron at one point or another.

The last episode was the perfect balance for me. A right twinge of the drama established from previous episodes Eli's grieving and Chloe's ongoing transformation and an immediate pressing problem to deal with.

Unfortunately it's now on hiatus to 2011 some time (lets hope its not April like last time!).

Which is a bugging problem for me. Why do shows like SGU take a break halfway through the run (when storywise it shouldn't) when shows like Glee which can be split more easier, don't?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 06, 2010, 10:38:35 AM
Actually, Glee WAS split into two last year. Season 1 had its first half air from September to December (not counting the sneak peak of the first episode in May), then aired the second half from April to June.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 06, 2010, 03:50:29 PM
Oh really? It didn't here.

I wish they do that to other shows like that more often to give shows like The Event and SGU and V the space they need uninterrupted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 06, 2010, 04:35:05 PM
I tolerated it because it let me catch up on episodes I missed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 09, 2010, 09:40:56 PM
I just watched the last two episodes of The Walking Dead. I can't really think of anything to say except "holy ****!"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on December 09, 2010, 10:16:56 PM
Terriers Season Series finale. 10/10 a perfect first season, it died because you didn't watch it. Catch it in the future, everything ties up nicely in one season, so it's like a a 13 episode beach noir movie. Think one part Veronica Mars, one part Brick, and a Smidgen of the Big Lebowski.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 10, 2010, 03:04:23 AM
I didn't like Veronica Mars. It took itself so damn seriously. Got through about half of the first season, but couldn't bring myself to keep watching it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on December 11, 2010, 09:50:02 PM
The Whitest kids you know. Horribly offensive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 12, 2010, 09:37:29 AM
I'm a huge Simpsons fan, and am so happy right now that my roommates, who had never watched it before, have become hooked on the show. It's also given me reason to watch some of the ones I haven't seen in a while. The second season is better than I remembered.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 12, 2010, 09:09:12 PM
The second season is the first season. That's how good it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2010, 02:09:45 PM
Dexter Season 5 - Disappointing.

Weakest season of the 5 as far as I'm concerned. It's almost as if nothing changed from last season other than Deb found a new side of herself and a BF. Quinn has the same exact suspicion(only much stronger). Dexter is alone with the kids again, the nanny had no purpose, Lumen is gone, La Guerta is still in charge, Deb is still a detective. This was like the second season of Heroes where nothing really mattered and you wouldn't miss anything if you skipped the entire season.

On the good note though, did you see Masuka's date at the end of the ep.
I'm gonna post a pic for those that missed it....
(http://i55.tinypic.com/2wovhtt.jpg) (http://i44.tinypic.com/6zc9rq.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 13, 2010, 04:17:58 PM
Yeah...it ended a little too nicely. I've been waiting so long for Deb to finally see Dexter for what he is, and it came so close to delivering it but yet again, it ended up being another dick tease.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2010, 08:59:56 PM
I started watching Community on the recommendation of the Newscast crew, and I'm really liking it. It's a great ensemble cast, but so far (8 episodes in) my clear favorite is Chevy Chase. He plays the part of the out of touch old guy so well, and I'd argue he's had the most consistent writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on December 14, 2010, 12:44:48 PM
About Dexter
I loved this season. I also thought it wrapped up a little too nicely, but Lumen leaving kind of brought it back down to Earth.

Deb not finding out about Dexter made sense because she's a cop, and you could see how much she struggled letting them go; she shot at Lumen, and if she had seen them, how could she let them go?

While I didn't care much for the Batista/Laguerta story, it shows that the other characters aren't stagnant pieces of a story. They are integral to Dexter's life, and have lives of their own.

Laguerta protected Dexter from Quinn, which she might not have done except for the problems she was having with Batista, and her previous attraction to Dexter. Also, because Deb and Quinn got together, Quinn was willing to overlook the obvious fact that Dexter was involved in something sinister and killed Liddy. Their relationship is also what convinved Dexter to clear Quinn, rather than kill him, or turn him in. Quinn had no evidence so Dexter would have been in the clear.

All the pieces of the story came together, even Lumen leaving, which I didn't completely like, but it gives Dexter hope that one day, some sense of completion could rid him of his dark passenger.

That is what Dexter has always been about small problems and pieces coming together to roll into huge problems for Dexter and his killing of people, which in the end he solves by killing more people, in this case, Jordan Chase and his followers. This season also showed a lot more of what kind of person Deb is beyond a foul mouthed cop. She didn't even ask Dexter for help that much this season. Like Dexter, she's much different from her peers and has had problems finding love. This season, they both found great loves. Dexter lost his love, and saved Deb's; he's a killer, but a great brother, trying to be a good dad. He saw Rita as his connection to humanity, but in his lss, and throughout the season he got closer to and struggled to keep the rest of his family close, and happy. I thought it was the best season so far, maybe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 14, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
Well said, er written.

Still, I don't know. I thought the 2nd season was probably the best.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2010, 01:23:40 PM
s5 was the weakest.
It started off really really bad and didn't start to pick up until halfway through the season.
There also wasn't a whole lot of tense situations this season, but it's really hard to follow last season, especially when you have a bunch of new writers on the show that were responsible for me losing interest in 24.

There was for too many instances where things wrapped up too neatly, things happened conveniently, and other things are just totally forgotten about. Like dexter finding the the video camera because of the baby monitor, which wasn't even on, but flickered the video signal on randomly. Or that Deb who was demoted to the file room was suddenly off demotion the next day and lead detective back on the Barrel Girl case and the new Laina cop who got promoted was no where to be seen again since her promotion. Or that Quinn is completely cleared from all charges in connection to Liddy's death because the blood didn't match, but we'll completely forget the voicemails/calls in his last hour or the fact that he was in possession of police surveillance equipment "signed" out by Quinn and that equipment was missing and that all the fingerprints on the van were Liddy & Quinns.


There are so many other things too, like how hey just completely gave up on the case that got Deb demoted in the first place (the other brother is still out there). And how the police never identified the 1st girl in the videos and never found out that Jordan Chase was an alias and his real name was Eugene Grier. When you check into someone like that I think it would be very weird if they just appeared on this earth at age 27 or whatever and hod no history before that. The police should have known it wasn't his real name.


I could keep going, but there was just too much of this this season that it broke the suspension of disbelief as there is always some stuff like that in shows like this, but this season just said **** it, and created things and forgot about things as they were needed to get to the very weak ending that this season served us. It was still a decent watch and I will definitely be there Day 1 for next season, but the season is easily the lowest on the totem pole.


s1 great
s4 great
s2 very good
s3 good
s5 ok
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on December 14, 2010, 02:07:12 PM
@ Unagi
I did say maybe lol. ;) Season 2 was pretty damn good.

@BnM
I think it's a little harsh to say it started off badly, it was slow, but I felt purposefully so, Dexter was lost without Rita, to the point that killing even lost some of its enjoyment for him. He had to rediscover himself, and didn't until Lumen came into the picture, and began turning things around for him.

Deb was reinstated because in being demoted to the file room she found new evidence, and Batista had her back, and Laguerta was both making up for her mistake in demoting her, and trying to make her husband happy; another validation of the Batista/Laguerta story.

Deb knew he was called Eugene Greer, I think she even mentioned it to Laguerta. The hole in the story was her not checking the name against property holdings like Dexter did, but I thought they were either trying to maintain Dexter's intellectual superiority, or Deb's overworking of the case made her overlook something. Also, Jordan had his name legally changed (if I'm not mistaken) at a young age, so technically there shouldn't have been any propety in his old name.

I forgot about the other killer brother, (hopefully they start next season with Dexter finding and killing him) but I imagined that Deb being reinstated meant there was no longer a place on their squad for the latina cop, and the fact she betrayed a cop that the rest of the unit defended, would have made her time there difficult.

As for Quinn, his fingerprints weren't inside the van, and a handwriting expert would have been able to tell his signature was forged. They kind of just skipped over the investigation, but I imagine that his being a cop makes it easier for his name to be cleared, much like Quinn was right that if Dexter wasn't part of their team they would've taken a harder look at him as a suspect.

I know I'm reading between the lines a little, but I think it's all there, except the other brother thing. Batista should have been investigating that since Deb and Quinn had lead on the barrel girls.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 14, 2010, 02:50:20 PM
But that was the problem, they just skipped over so many opportunities to build tension or a sense of panic/fear for whats gonna happen next, but they wasted too much time in the first half of the season just getting it going that there was no time left unless they extended the season (which I would have been fine with).

My main worry about Deb having gotten stuck down in the filing room was that she was look more into Dexter's past and piece together more clues about Dexter and his brother Brian Moser, but that plot line has been conveniently forgotten too. Not to mention the fact that Deb was still staying with Quinn even after she told him to **** Off!?
Another detail conveniently forgotten: The red car Dex stole from the dock to chase down Jordan to the camp. It was flipped over and had blood DNA (which Dex could contaminate later), but it would be known that it was stolen from the dock around the time the police were there and somehow ended up at the crime scene. That should raise a few questions at the very least.

There are a few things I would have done very differently that I think would have made for a better season and not followed Laguertas last lines "Lets' give us a seconds chance and start over from the beginning";

Debs demotion and reinstatement was a little quick. Was she even demoted for 24hrs? with all the red-tape that Laguerta kept talking about, you'd think that the case would have to carry on without her and she would have done some unofficial off the clock work on it herself. She would have dug more in to Dexter while in the file room and also have discovered the property owned by Eugene by making a few phone calls and then discovered (Dexter and/or) Lumen at the murder scene at the camp and then let it go since she was there in an unofficial capacity and sympathized with the effort. Having discovered Lumen's secret (being #13 and the vigilante) she would have assumed that Dexter was the one helping her and all the research she did in the file room (this season and previous ones) would start to slowly come together.
Having been found out, Lumen would have every reason to skip town while she could get away with it and then Deb would ask suspicious questions of Deter who would deny even knowing what she was talking about.

Dexter would have found out about the camera's in a slightly different way that actually made sense, and it wouldn't have been hard since he is such a neat freak. He could have noticed the small hole in the base of his lamp or gotten electrical interference from another device. Maybe he gets suspicious after he sees Liddy near his apartment getting into a van and that's after seeing Liddy at the police station rifling though Quinns desk. Either way the Liddy story plays out the same (Dead) but the case doesn't get dismissed (after Dex cleared the blood charge) and it is forcing to light the situation that Quinn had hired Liddy to investigate Dexter even though Laguerta had already suspended him for such actions (The scene where Deb tries to talk to Quinn in interrogation is where he tells her and only her about what Liddy was upto.) casting suspicion back on Dexter and triggering more thoughts in Deb's head as it all starts to come together for her, even if she keeps this theory to herself.

*some of this could still happen next season*

that's how I would have it all go down this season leading up some suspense for the next.




edited to clean up a few sentences and add more context.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 14, 2010, 08:56:53 PM
You bring up some great points. It all seemed very rushed didn't it?

Oh well...kinda makes me want to write my own show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 14, 2010, 09:02:36 PM
Oh well...kinda makes me want to write my own show.

Even without any knowledge of what it would be about, based purely on your posts, let me be the first to say I'd totally watch that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on December 15, 2010, 10:59:56 AM
@BnM
Deb was demoted for the killer brothers, and reinstated for the barrel girls. All the red tape was for brothers' case since civilians got hurt. If she hadn't gone to the file room she would've stayed obsessed with finding the other brother. And they didn't forget about Dexter's brother, Deb mentions that she knows what the girls went through, and that was because of the Ice Truck Killer aka Dexter's brother, taking her hostage.

I also think (but not sure) that Deb complained to Quinn about going to the file room for 'another day' suggesting that it was more than one day. Like you, I thought Deb was going to find out more about Dexter through the file room (I was thinking the clerk would say something about Dex always wanting to look at old files) but they transferred that suspense to the fact that the barrels girls case was reopened, and that brought her directly in line with Dexter's extra activities.

I sort of assumed Dexter either burned the car, or with the hour Deb gave them, he would have flipped it back over with the bulldozer or whatever he ran into and used the car to escape since they had to carry Jordan's body. I also assumed Deb wouldn't have run into it because she wasn't in as much of a hurry, or as distracted, as Dex was.

I do like your ideas about Dexter finding the camera better than what happened, but it did add some suspense that Dexter might go after Quinn, it just could have been done a lot better.

I also wouldn't have minded an extended season. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2010, 12:01:25 PM
I'm pretty much done analyzing Dexter for all it's inserted conveniences, open plot threads/holes and missed opportunities to connect previous seasons to current season and actually add some real drama, but you don't get publicly demoted one day and then be lead detective on a different (higher profile) case 2 days later.

And I can accept that since Dex came from across the bay he might have entered the camp from a different side than Jordan and Deb so she wouldn't have seen the overturned car, but we know that's not true since Jordan passed that same bulldozer on the way in and Deb took the same route he did.... and apparently so did Dexter.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 15, 2010, 04:39:41 PM
Oh well...kinda makes me want to write my own show.

Even without any knowledge of what it would be about, based purely on your posts, let me be the first to say I'd totally watch that.

Haha that makes me want to start typing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 17, 2010, 06:45:52 AM
Stargate Universe has been cancelled. And that marks the end of the franchise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 17, 2010, 01:07:38 PM
WHAT? They cancel it when it starts to get good. Of course if they had done the first season with a bang then maybe they wouldn't have cancelled, but who's to know anyway. It's going to be a bitch for them to have an ending that in a manner isn't made of suck. Oh well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 17, 2010, 05:55:44 PM
canceling a decent series is a surefire way to keep cult fanship going
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 18, 2010, 03:11:13 AM
I didn't watch the show, but I'd always intended to, what with Julia Anderson (Benton) and all.

Here in Hawaii, I'm watching a lot of Family Guy reruns. The show maintains its humor extremely well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 18, 2010, 10:23:25 AM
It's my least favorite of the MacFarlane shows though, I think both American Dad! and The Cleveland Show are great. Family Guy is really hit and miss.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 18, 2010, 11:07:01 AM
Stargate Universe has been cancelled. And that marks the end of the franchise.

Woohoo! Now nothing will get in the way of me watching wreslting on the Sci-Fi channel!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on December 18, 2010, 04:33:33 PM
That's Syfy to you, sir.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 18, 2010, 05:12:02 PM
Does it really matter that much? I mean, SyFy is pretty much what Spike is nowadays... which is pretty much what TechTV became after G4 destroyed it. Television simply isn't worth watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 18, 2010, 05:51:26 PM
G4 was good at first, until it basically became a clone of Spike. I used to watch Spike when they aired a lot of Star Trek; now they are mostly CSI and UFC. I used to love watching The Twilight Zone on Syfy, now all I watch on it are ]Star Trek: Enterprise (which doesn't air on a regular basis) and WWE Friday Night SmackDown.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 18, 2010, 07:09:41 PM
i wish there was a tv channel that focused on Science Fiction shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 18, 2010, 07:16:32 PM
This stuff doesn't bother me that much because I almost never watch live TV outside of sports. Pretty much everything I watch is through Hulu or Netflix or some other internet source, so I never have to worry about what channel has what and when it's on. It sucks when good shows suffer because of network politics, but that's inevitable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 18, 2010, 07:26:31 PM
G4 was good at first, until it basically became a clone of Spike.

I can't agree with that. Everything that TechTV had was far superior. I mean, c'mon, the Screensavers?! Now the only thing that survives is a watered down X-Play. Of course, I remember spending a lot of time watching ZDTV back in the day, even before it was TechTV. It just goes to show that there is no place for intelligent programming. It's a big reason why I don't subscribe to any kind of television service... it simply isn't worth it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 18, 2010, 07:33:26 PM
G4 had a lot of good shows: Icons, Judgement Day, Electric Playground, Cinematech, G4TV.com, etc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 20, 2010, 02:21:44 AM
4th season of the IT Crowd. Ploppers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiuoIfNCyhA). Love this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 20, 2010, 01:12:29 PM
G4 had a lot of good shows: Icons, Judgement Day, Electric Playground, Cinematech, G4TV.com, etc.

If you say so. For me though, G4 is nothing more than an abomination of a once-great channel, catering only to retarded teenage boys who play way too much Xbox and love their right hand.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 20, 2010, 01:15:18 PM
Let's not generalize, 8-15% of them love their left hand.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 20, 2010, 02:10:34 PM
i just like attack of the show, xplay, and ninja warrior. I dont like campus p.d. and cops much sooooo they should start airing good stuff. I miss Cinematech, and Icons
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 03, 2011, 12:31:03 PM
Primeval, season 4, episode 1. It's made of awesome sauce.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 03, 2011, 06:03:11 PM
Boardwalk Empire

9/10

Awesome when it's awesome. Boring when it's boring. And it ended a bit too nicely. Still, some of the characters (especially Steve Buscemi) are some of the best and well rounded of any show I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 10, 2011, 07:08:14 PM
Among the other shows I watched in Animation Domination, I watched the series premiere of Bob's Burgers (from the same guy who created Home Movies). It was OK. but not great. I had no interest in the mom, and the story could have been better. Most of the family members sound alike, though I think that was on purpose.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 10, 2011, 07:59:20 PM
Being a big fan of Home Movies I watched Bob's Burgers last night.  It was okay but I expect a first episode to usually be a little rough.  I will give it a chance though.  They clearly have men voicing two female characters though and that is rather weird.  The mom's voice just irritated me.  It sounds too much like someone doing an unfunny stereotypical gay voice.

What is weird as all hell though is hearing all these voices from Home Movies coming out of different characters.  I hear McGuirk's voice but that's not McGuirk.  But then way back when King of the Hill debuted I had the same problem where Hank was just Mr. Anderson from Beavis & Butthead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 10, 2011, 08:06:16 PM
King of the Hill also started pretty rough, but got better. That is why I will give this a chance too, maybe it will get better in time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on January 10, 2011, 11:41:15 PM
I always thought King of the Hill was a take off from Beavis and Butthead.

I tried to watch Bob's Burgers but I couldn't stand it. I don't need to watch yet another show about morons doing what morons do best. I had my fill with that thanks to Everyone Loves Raymond. Bob's Burgers wasn't even funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 10, 2011, 11:45:52 PM
I am sure you know that KOTH was from the same guy that created B&B (Mike Judge), so no surprise there.

I hope Fox at least gives it a chance, they didn't give Sit Down, Shut Up much time before they yanked it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 11, 2011, 01:13:13 AM
Well, it only took them half a season  ::) , but Lucasfilm has finally turned out a good episode of Season 3 of Star Wars: The Clone Wars with last Friday's episode.  I finally got around to watching it, and after the abysmal failure that was the first half of "this season" it was nice to finally see a Clone Wars episode that

A.) Actually takes place after Season 2.

and

B.) Actually focuses on the Clone Wars, the series' namesake.

The action is excellent with great staging and some decent animation, though I think the lightsaber duel that kicks off the episode looks very odd, with characters basically just snapping to poses as "fighting".  Thankfully, the duel that ends the episode is much better.  This episode also brings in elements that really made earlier episodes in the series shine: concepts adapted from expanded universe material and some unusually dark material (hello Force Lightning and Force Choke!).  I'm also surprised at how effective the exposition dump was halfway through the episode, where we finally get to see Ventruss' backstory (a character that, up till now, I never cared much for).

If this episode is a sign of things to come, the second half of Season 3 may just make up for the craptastic first half.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2011, 04:23:28 AM
The Cape - ....What can I say about The Cape

I can say that I really want to like this show. I can also say that they make it really hard to do that. ***Summer Glau looked damn good with the Cleopatra Cut at the end.
So much is left out that I have a hard time not only believing whats going on, but actually getting into it and the premiere is 2hrs long!
I can overlook the cheap special FX or the fact that a city in the USA would be able to privatize it's police force and it's jail system, but they way the main character "perfects" fighting and magic in what seems to be a day or 2, maybe a week at best or how he was even set up to begin with by the ARK corporation who happen to leave him with a master key card to everything the corporation is in charge of when he hadn't even started his new job yet at ARK Corp. and countless other little things that happen like falling out of a hi-rise window, landing on a car and walking away after being poisoned and still managing to walk away and survive till the next day with out any medical treatment (it apparently is a BIIIG city since it took hours to drive from the scene of the fall & stabbing/poisoning back to the circus where he got poisoned again to cure his first poisoning/stabbing.). Did I mention that Orwell - the eyes and ears of the city that seems to know more than the police, is a single female (Summer Glau) who has her own Batcave in her garage with a computer that is apparently capable of blocking cellphone traffic in specific locations of the city and maybe anything else The Cape ask of her since I don't remember them discussing everything that she is capable of with out leaving her computer chair.*
**The boat. How did he know what boat they were on? and why did the midget show up alone & how did the midget get past the other security.

The one thing that this superhero has going for him though is that atleast he has enough sense to wear a damn mask when patrolling the streets in pursuit of the badguys (yes I'm referring to No Ordinary Family). I just hope that now that they got the pilot out of the way (which I hear was re-edited and re-edited again before being aired) that it gets better, because it hasn't earned the benefit of being this lazy and still holding it's audience (like the middle seasons of Smallville) since it doesn't actually have an audience yet, This show has potential to be interesting(Spawn meets Batman meets Houdini), but if it doesn't get better from here on out, I don't see it lasting past this season if it even finishes this season at all.

Pilot episode - 5.5/10


*i fell asleep about 4 times during this episode and had to rewind numerous times in hopes that I didn't miss anything,
**edit
The pacing of this show was just bad. But like I said, I heard it was edited and then re-edited again after early reviews before airing (once or twice). So much seemed to have been left out, skipped over or just assumed, that it made the suspension of disbelief hard to maintain. Hopefully things get better in later episodes.
***edit 2
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 11, 2011, 12:17:06 PM
But then way back when King of the Hill debuted I had the same problem where Hank was just Mr. Anderson from Beavis & Butthead.

Uh... Hank isMr. Anderson for all intents and purposes. King of the Hill was a spin-off of Beavis & Butthead, just like Daria was. Daria is arguably the funniest of the three, even if King of the Hill did become much more humorous and satirical as it went on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 11, 2011, 12:32:19 PM
KOTH was not a spin-off as it had nothing to do with Beavis and Butt-head. Yes Hank was basically the same look and voice of Mr. Anderson, but was still different and not related. I love Daria though, and picked up the complete series when it was finally released on DVD a few months ago (it's a good set, although they obviously had to change some of the music since the show used licensed songs sometimes; it doesn't hurt the episodes though). It's a shame that Fox didn't even let KOTH air all of their remaining episodes. After the last official episode aired, there were a few more episodes left that Fox let syndication stations choose when to air (which I hated because at that time my local Fox station was airing the series at 2AM).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 11, 2011, 05:21:17 PM
@BnM
I only read the first few lines of your post, just like I only watched the first few minutes of The Cape, but the prison system is already largely privatized (kind of a conspiracy theory, but I think it's a big reason we spend more money incarcerating instead of rehabilitating and why petty thieves and drug users get serious jail time) which is why I didn't think it was such a stretch for a privatized police force.

I fell asleep during The Cape, and I just gave up on it. Maybe I'll watch it again though, maybe not.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 11, 2011, 06:06:52 PM
At first The Cape sounded interesting but I eventually got sick of seeing ads for it during every single commercial break for every single Sunday Night Football game.  I find there is a general rule that hard sell = teh suck.  If they shill the absolute **** out of something it usually means that they know it's crap.  There will be no favourable reviews and no good word of mouth.  Therefore you bombard everyone with ads in hopes of grabbing the rubes before negative word gets out.  You really notice this with films where there is an obvious incentive to get suckers into seeing a bad film opening weekend before the bad word of mouth starts spreading.  With a show I'm not so sure how well the strategy works since a show's success requires repeat viewings.  You have to deliver in the eyes of the target audience.

I find if there is true confidence in a show or movie there is a little less desperation in the ads.  So they don't have to start running ads months ahead of time or show them in every single commercial break.  They probably figure that a truly worthwhile product will create it's own buzz with just a little bit of promotion while a dud product has to have an ad blitz to stay in peoples' minds.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 11, 2011, 06:13:50 PM
There's a hilarious review of "The Cape" at i09

http://io9.com/5729264/if-the-cape-is-really-our-new-hero-then-america-is-doomed

And Ian, I agree in some respect with your "Hard Sell = teh suck" theory, but plenty of movies have done just that and been fantastic. I think it's more of a marketing tactic used by companies who are either really insecure or completely confident. There isn't a comfortable inbetween.

And yes, just like you, I was sick of those commercials. But unlike you, I was sick of the commercial half-way through the first one. It looked so stupid and cheesy. Instead, I pictured the lazy TV exec listening to one of his "top" aides pandering an idea that because Super hero movies are doing well, a Super hero show could do well. And it wasn't a bad correlation. Even I would be intrigued, but I wouldn't take the first script out of the pile and make it. And that's exactly what "The Cape" seemed like to me. All that from half a commercial. I'm sure I'm not alone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 11, 2011, 06:29:10 PM
the cape sounds like a second hand knockoff of The Shadow and The Spirit
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 11, 2011, 08:27:43 PM
MJ maybe I should have italicized the AND inbetween Police force and Prison System. That is corruption at it's finest from the get-go especially when it's within the same corporation and would never happen in real life.

But there was just so much wrong with that show. If I didn't know any better, the 2nd half of the 2hr premiere was actually the 3rd or 4th episode but they condensed all the previous episodes down into the 1st hour due to mixed early previews and no budget or time to re-shoot. I'll tune into the next episode or 2 and let you guys know if it gets any better, but if you don't hear about it again from me, just assume that it sucked and wasn't worth mentioning again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 12, 2011, 03:36:25 AM
V was oddly topical today despite being filmed a while ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 16, 2011, 05:07:23 PM
Watched the first disk of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." I almost died I was laughing so hard. How have I not seen this show yet? Dee screaming in the bathroom at the old folk's home might have been the best thing EVER.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
Watched the first disk of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." I almost died I was laughing so hard. How have I not seen this show yet? Dee screaming in the bathroom at the old folk's home might have been the best thing EVER.
I've been meaning to start that show for so long (about 2 seasons ago), but just never found the time to fit it in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 16, 2011, 05:49:54 PM
All my friends, and my "friends" on Facebook all love It' Always Sunny, but I've watched 3 episodes and I just don't get it. There was like one joke per episode I found funny, and not even laugh out loud funny... Is there some dynamic to this show that I'm just not getting?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 16, 2011, 06:24:09 PM
Watched the first disk of "It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia." I almost died I was laughing so hard. How have I not seen this show yet? Dee screaming in the bathroom at the old folk's home might have been the best thing EVER.

The show keeps getting better, especially once Danny DeVito joins the cast. BnM, I definitely think you should find the time to watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2011, 06:28:23 PM
I just have sooo many shows on the roster right now.
I technically have the time, but not sure I want to invest it in another comedy right now. Especially one that is already 6 seasons deep and I have lots of catching up to do on. I'm already RLTTP, so there is no rush to get caught up right now.




My Television Backlog (off the top of my head) looks something like this right now.
Lost s6
Sopranos
Always Sunny
The last 3 seasons of South Park
Nip Tuck s4-6
last 2 seasons of 24 (will probably never watch)
and I'm sure there are more...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 16, 2011, 08:01:37 PM
South Park has been annoying me the last few seasons because they'll have like ten episodes (IF THAT) and call it a season. Bullshit. BlacknMild, how far into Sopranos are you? I got through the whole series in one big marathon and ended up liking it less and less.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 16, 2011, 08:13:14 PM
South Park has been annoying me the last few seasons because they'll have like ten episodes (IF THAT) and call it a season. Bullshit.

Every season has had at least 13 episodes. In fact, the last 8 seasons have each had 14 episodes (the shortest season was season 1, which had 13). It may not seem like that because they split each season into 2 (spring and fall). They usually split it into 7 episodes in March/April and the other 7 in October/November.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2011, 08:14:08 PM


South Park has been annoying me the last few seasons because they'll have like ten episodes (IF THAT) and call it a season. Bullshit. BlacknMild, how far into Sopranos are you? I got through the whole series in one big marathon and ended up liking it less and less.

I haven't started it yet. It's made it into my Netflix queue about 8 months ago and that is as far as it's gotten ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 17, 2011, 01:41:20 AM
I recently started watching The Bob Newhart Show. I was reading an article somewhere (I think it was the Onion A.V. Club) that mentioned it as being really good, and then I noticed it was on Hulu (I subscribe to Hulu Plus; I'm not sure if the show requires it or not). It is quite good, with no real hook or gimmick, but very well written. Easily the best show from the 70s that I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 17, 2011, 10:47:18 AM
All my friends, and my "friends" on Facebook all love It' Always Sunny, but I've watched 3 episodes and I just don't get it. There was like one joke per episode I found funny, and not even laugh out loud funny... Is there some dynamic to this show that I'm just not getting?
Yes, everyone on the show is an asshole. I said it before, it's like Seinfeld but instead of generally likeable characters, they're all a bunch of self-serving asshole. It's a great show, but the last few have been pretty bland. The second part of the one where Charlie became a school janitor was hilarious though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 17, 2011, 10:59:07 AM
They were all self-serving assholes on Seinfeld too.


Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on January 17, 2011, 11:02:58 AM
I recently started watching The Bob Newhart Show. I was reading an article somewhere (I think it was the Onion A.V. Club) that mentioned it as being really good, and then I noticed it was on Hulu (I subscribe to Hulu Plus; I'm not sure if the show requires it or not). It is quite good, with no real hook or gimmick, but very well written. Easily the best show from the 70s that I've ever seen.

Did you watch Newhart, the show Bob did after The Bob Newhart Show? If not, you should. The last episode was a killer. But its one of those 'famous' moments so you probably already know about it. If you don't know about it, don't look it up without at least watching a number of episodes so things make sense. I watched it when it first aired and my jaw dropped.

Bob's sense of comedic timing is great, and his ability to be a vehicle that the viewer rides along with as craziness happens around him is what makes his shows special. He's not the one causing problems, he just happens to be there, and we laugh as he just shakes his head. Though when he does laugh, you know he was laughing the whole time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 17, 2011, 11:37:22 AM
All my friends, and my "friends" on Facebook all love It' Always Sunny, but I've watched 3 episodes and I just don't get it. There was like one joke per episode I found funny, and not even laugh out loud funny... Is there some dynamic to this show that I'm just not getting?
Yes, everyone on the show is an asshole. I said it before, it's like Seinfeld but instead of generally likeable characters, they're all a bunch of self-serving asshole. It's a great show, but the last few have been pretty bland. The second part of the one where Charlie became a school janitor was hilarious though.

That's the one with Lethal Weapon 5, right? If so, then I strongly agree.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 17, 2011, 12:01:59 PM
Wait a minute there is a Lethal Weapon 5?!?! I thought they were too old for this **** since they DeKaffainated an embassy, burned down the housing development and drowned Jet Li by ventilating him while in sea water.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 17, 2011, 12:15:49 PM
Wait a minute there is a Lethal Weapon 5?!?! I thought they were too old for this **** since they DeKaffainated an embassy, burned down the housing development and drowned Jet Li by ventilating him while in sea water.

The characters in It's Always Sunny wrote and filmed their own Lethal Weapon movie, Lethal Weapon 5. It was, of course, a total trainwreck, in a hilarious way. Mac and Dennis switch roles halfway through the movie, making it even worse (better), with Dennis using a truly awful Australian accent and Mac in full-on blackface.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2011, 02:39:44 PM
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Did you watch Newhart, the show Bob did after The Bob Newhart Show? If not, you should.

My brother got the first season of Newhart on DVD last year.  Funny stuff though apparently the show gets better in later seasons.  But only the first season is on DVD.  Argh!
 
Bob Newhart's comedic timing is just brilliant.  The only problem I had with the first season of Newhart however was that it's an 80's sitcom and that means it has its fair share of broad comedy and feel good moments.  But I find that to be a problem with a lot of 70's or 80's sitcoms.  Even a classic like Cheers is going to have the occasional clunker episode full of hugs and applause from the studio audience.
 
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They were all self-serving assholes on Seinfeld too.

I never saw them like that.  Well George is but he always gets his come-uppance in the end.  I always felt the Seinfeld cast came across as very real people.  A lot of old comedies, even ones I like, are full of real do-gooder characters.  They'll always help and agree with each other.  One show I find really guilty of this is Taxi.  I always liked Louie in Taxi because, even though he is a jerk, he has some semblance to a normal person.  Everyone else is willing to help and do the right thing and when they decide to do something as a group they're all enthusiastic and everyone wants to be involved.  BULLSHIT!  Who the **** is like that in real life?
 
It is very normal in real life to be irritated by co-workers or to think your family is crazy or to have relationship problems due to bizarre mundane trivial things or to have a sarcastic attitude towards the bullshit you encounter in day-to-day life.  It does take it to a little bit of an extreme for comedic purposes but I always felt the characters were somewhat likeable because they seemed more like someone I would meet in real life and were living a life more like my own and those around me.  Most people in life aren't really bad people who try to screw everyone over but aren't really good people either that specifically go out of their way to help others.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 17, 2011, 03:10:43 PM
Always Sunny is hilarious. There's no need to catch up on any of it. Just watch it at random (there's only a couple of episodes that self-reference, but you don't have to have seen them in order to enjoy it).

Who ever said it was like Seinfield is correct, but it's like Seinfield on crack.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 17, 2011, 03:33:50 PM
it's like Seinfield on crack.

I can't emphasize enough how accurate this description is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 17, 2011, 03:45:07 PM
I tend to agree that Seinfeld had fairly fleshed out characters most of the time, but they often emphasized their selfish natures, and of course the last episode of the series hinged entirely on the fact that they were basically self-centered people.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2011, 04:15:44 PM
I completed the 1st season of It's Always Sunny last night.
I liked it, but my girl tried to pretend she wasn't interested in it at all.

But I sat through her Better With You marathon, so the trade off was that she had to watch It's Always Sunny with me.
What she didn't realize is that I while I knowingly agreed to sit through 12 episodes of BWY, she unknowingly agreed to sit through 6 seasons of IAS with me ;D

BWY isn't a horrible show, it has it's funny moments, but I'm not really feeling it as most of it just feels so forced, but I'm liking IAS better since it's more of a guys line of thinking show. We were both laughing at the tranny scene in episode 5 or 6 though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 17, 2011, 04:56:55 PM
Just finished episode 18 of the new Avengers animated series.  Overall, I'm pretty conflicted about it.  On the one hand, the superhero action was awesome and the plot was suitably epic as the Avengers fight off a worldwide invasion.  This series has really come a long way from its pilot.  On the other hand, this story is way too big for a show this small.  Throughout the episode, we're told about fights all over the world, but apparently the ONLY target of interest in New York is the Avengers.  Where are the X-Men, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, or the Fantastic 4 (who have already been mentioned just an episode prior) just for starters?  And those are just the Marvel superheroes I can think of that live in New York!  Outside of a strange addition of some guy with a sword on a flying horse in what looks like Great Britain, apparently the only superheroes in the entire world on this show are the Avengers.  As a result, this story seems to be getting resolved way too easily and revolves around Tony Stark being artificially stupid.  I applaud the show for going for the brass ring, but there are just too many inconsistencies and logic holes given the vast Marvel universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2011, 05:07:34 PM
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  I tend to agree that Seinfeld had fairly fleshed out characters most of the time, but they often emphasized their selfish natures, and of course the last episode of the series hinged entirely on the fact that they were basically self-centered people.

Yeah, but what Seinfeld fan likes the last episode?  You might as well exclude it from the show.  You could never use it as an example because it does not represent what anyone actually watched Seinfeld for in the first place.  I will agree thought that it did tend to emphasize their selfishness for laughs.
 
Another aspect of the show that I feel really hits home is the isolation of the main cast from the rest of the world.  The four of them are a tight-knit group of friends and the rest of the world is on the outside.  Kramer is the only character who regularly appears to have friends outside the main cast (Newman, Mickie, Bob Sacamano).  The other three pretty much hang out exclusively with each other.  They date and have families but these other people are never part of the main group.  Jerry, Elaine and George see each other as mostly normal.  If anyone outside that group does, says or thinks things that are different from that norm they talk about it as if it is abnormal.  Hell, George pretty much talks about this in an episode Susan is starting to hang out with Elaine and how he doesn't want Independent George and Relationship George to collide.  Despite being his fiance, George doesn't regard Susan as part of the group and he knows their engagement is a huge mistake.
 
Real relationships are kind of like that.  There is a handful of people that really matter to you and represent what you consider to be normal.  Everyone else is outside that though once in a while you meet new people that enter in.  This is where private jokes come from.  When you encounter something unusual in your life, these are the people who talk to about it and their opinions on the matter shape what you consider normal and abnormal.  You save these people a spot in line at the expense of strangers.  It could be seen as somewhat selfish, particularly in a big picture "greater good" way.  But that's how life works.  Seinfeld gets that accurately.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 17, 2011, 05:25:25 PM
What are you talking about? The last episode was one of the best in the series. It's a must see for any fan (unlike the first season, which had several terrible episodes).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 17, 2011, 06:00:07 PM
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  I tend to agree that Seinfeld had fairly fleshed out characters most of the time, but they often emphasized their selfish natures, and of course the last episode of the series hinged entirely on the fact that they were basically self-centered people.

Yeah, but what Seinfeld fan likes the last episode?  You might as well exclude it from the show.

What does one's opinion of the episode have to do with anything? Disliking an episode doesn't magically banish it from existence. Either way, I thought it was a fine episode.

I agree with the rest of your post, but regardless of whether that's how "life works" or not, their social isolation only reinforces my point about their self-centeredness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 17, 2011, 06:37:21 PM
I guess my argument is that if the Seinfeld cast is self-centered then so is pretty much everyone.

My point about the last episode is that because it is generally unpopular and came at the very end of the show it is not a good example to draw from.  I don't feel it is reflective of the overall series.

No last episode is really a good example because it is the one episode that can exist outside all others.  The writers can make whatever episode they want with no real repercussions if the viewers don't like it.  There is no audience to attract for next week.  You could kill off the main character or reveal that he's an alien or whatever batshit insane thing you want and it will have no effect on the show's continued success because there isn't one.

St. Elsewhere ended with the reveal that the "show" didn't exist at all and was entirely in the imagination of the one the characters.  Realistically it was a big "**** you" to anyone who was a fan of the show.  Odds are if such an episode aired anywhere else in the show's run it would have killed the viewership outright.  For shows where things went off the deep end and turned off the viewers (Roseanne is a great example of this) one would never use episodes from that time period as any example of the tone or feel of the show.  The last episode has special "immunity" of sorts from viewship killing disasters.  Thus the tone or feel of that one episode could be out of character with the rest of the show.

I always saw the Seinfeld finale as if the writers were telling us the characters we had loved for years were in fact unlikable jerks and that we were tools for liking them.  It's like the episode was written by people that didn't like the show and wanted to stick to everyone that did.  It's like turning on an episode of your favourite show and you just get an old man on a stool lecturing directly into the camera about how much of an idiot you are for watching the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 17, 2011, 06:42:49 PM
the last episode is that because it is generally unpopular

What makes you think that? And if you don't like the end of St. Elsewhere because it turns out the show didn't exist, then you are gonna hate the end of Newhart because it does the exact same thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 17, 2011, 06:56:35 PM
I guess my argument is that if the Seinfeld cast is self-centered then so is pretty much everyone.

Then we are in complete agreement.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2011, 07:19:36 PM
the last episode is that because it is generally unpopular

What makes you think that? And if you don't like the end of St. Elsewhere because it turns out the show didn't exist, then you are gonna hate the end of Newhart because it does the exact same thing.

Why would you spoil this when you know people are trying to get someone else interested in watching it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 17, 2011, 07:37:55 PM
I'm going to modify that with spoiler tags, if no one minds.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 17, 2011, 07:40:33 PM
My mistake, usually I am more careful with spoilers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 18, 2011, 08:24:23 AM
I always saw the Seinfeld finale as if the writers were telling us the characters we had loved for years were in fact unlikable jerks and that we were tools for liking them.  It's like the episode was written by people that didn't like the show and wanted to stick to everyone that did.  It's like turning on an episode of your favourite show and you just get an old man on a stool lecturing directly into the camera about how much of an idiot you are for watching the show.

Now that's hilarious. Seinfiled should have strived for more humor like that throughout it's run. It might have been worth watching then. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 18, 2011, 12:55:56 PM
Actually, that sums up the whole series. They were a group of friends who had their own little inside jokes and nuances, and either messed with other people, each other, or got screwed over themselves and talked with their friends about how much people sucked.

They were all assholes, but they were funny. Curb Your Enthusiasm is built on that same premise except Larry David (creator of Seinfeld) is the only asshole.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 18, 2011, 01:13:30 PM
Larry David (creator of Seinfeld) is the only asshole.

That's far from true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 18, 2011, 01:57:16 PM
In Curb Your Enthusiasm I often find myself siding with Larry.  Not always but quite often.  Where him and I differ is that I know when to pick my battles while he will be confrontational over the smallest things.  But a lot of Curb Your Enthusiam is Larry calling people on bullshit where you would think the same thing in the same situation only you wouldn't say anything and he does.

My brother loves the show but fails to realize that in a lot of ways he is Larry.  He resorts to the shouting match at the drop of a hat.  I've seen him in public getting into arguments with complete strangers who are telling him to go **** himself.  I don't think I've ever had any stranger ever yell and swear at me while for him this happens at least twice a year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 18, 2011, 02:32:11 PM
These last couple of pages have been a window into Ian's psyche. It explains so much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 18, 2011, 05:51:48 PM
@Grant
Okay, his best friend whose name I forget is also an asshole, and so was Jerry when they were doing the reunion show. Larry is just the biggest asshole, he's also kind of an idiot, but those are both the point of the show, George from Seinfeld was based on Larry David; a "careful" with money, self-righteous, uncaring, idiot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 18, 2011, 06:00:34 PM
yeah the Jeff Green character is an asshole too

my two favorite sitcoms in the past couple of years is Curb and Sunny...both have Kaitlin Olson
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 18, 2011, 07:42:32 PM
Have you guys forgotten about Susie (Jeff's wife)?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 18, 2011, 09:14:46 PM
George from Seinfeld was based on Larry David; a "careful" with money, self-righteous, uncaring, idiot.

That doesn't mean he was based off of anyone... it just means he was the Jewish character. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 19, 2011, 12:49:50 AM
George from Seinfeld was based on Larry David; a "careful" with money, self-righteous, uncaring, idiot.

That doesn't mean he was based off of anyone... it just means he was the Jewish character. :P

Trying to get banned?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 19, 2011, 09:30:15 AM
Seriously, and Jerry was the Jewish character...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 19, 2011, 10:25:10 AM
Seriously, and Jerry was the Jewish character...

George from Seinfeld was based on Larry David; a "careful" with money, self-righteous, uncaring, idiot.

That doesn't mean he was based off of anyone... it just means he was the Jewish character. :P

Trying to get banned?

What do you mean? The short fat guy was Jewish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 19, 2011, 10:39:17 AM
And what relevance does that have in relation to the MaryJane sentence you quoted?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 19, 2011, 11:04:00 AM
And the only religion ever mentioned about George was being Latvian Orthodox.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 19, 2011, 11:16:45 AM
Wikipedia is amazing:

Quote from: Wikipedia
Although Estelle's ethnicity is never mentioned on the show, both Larry David and Jason Alexander considered her to be Jewish. David referred to George as "half-Jewish" in an interview [1], and Alexander stated that he had no fixed ideas about George's ethnicity until the casting of Harris as his mother, and said that "she can't be anything but Jewish." [2] In "The Strike," Frank Costanza refers to the genesis of Festivus as springing from an occasion in which he was buying a Christmas gift for George, showing that Christmas was celebrated in the household, likely by Frank who is Italian (although it has become a secular holiday).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 19, 2011, 11:25:10 AM
True, but I meant that it was never actually said on the show what other religion he had besides the one he convert to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 19, 2011, 11:36:14 AM
Ugh...way too much nitpicking Seinfeld conversation.  I couldn't stand that show when it aired.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on January 19, 2011, 12:33:17 PM
Just to add to the Seinfeld nitpicking there is an episode where Kramer is hosting "Jewish Singles Night" and George's father lets him host it as the Knight of Columbus hall.  The Knights of Columbus are a Catholic fraternity.  Combining that with Frank being Italian I figured that George would be Catholic, if of any religion at all.  His father seems to be anyway.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 19, 2011, 12:38:52 PM
I think it's safe to say that George himself probably didn't practice any religion. Hell, he converted to Latvian Orthodox just to be with a woman.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 22, 2011, 01:31:00 AM
I've made it no secret over the past couple of years of my growing disdain for the Japanese animation industry's increasing dependency on the twisted Japanese otaku market, and as a result I've largely ignored anime (outside of Fullmetal Alchemist) for about 2 years now.  However, earlier this year Amazon practically had a fire sale on Funimation anime Blu-Ray sets, so I ended up purchasing quite a few sets I've had my eye on for a while now (most of which are upgrades).

The first of those to arrive was a very strange series called Heroic Age, ostensibly an epic fracking space opera.  Epic fracking space operas (preferably with epic fracking space battles) are my favorite kind of entertainment, so I popped it in and now that I've completed it...I'm very disappointed.  Vandread, this is not.  It's not that it's a bad show, just that it's an extremely unfocused one that can't make up its mind what it is and so pleases no one.  Frequently, the show will just crank up the epic orchestral music and bask in the glory of space travel and human interaction with other space-faring races, also known as the good parts.  However, to please the otaku culture's love for giant robots, we also have certain characters (who like to drone on about contracts and much ado about nothing for most of entire episodes) who can transform into essentially giant Evangelions with the power of Gods.  Then they proceed to fight each other for episode upon episode, and yet never seem to create an interesting fight because there's never any consequence.  These have to be the most mind-numbingly lame giant robot/beast fights I've ever seen, and they take up most of the running time and never move the plot forward.

The show also has a severe problem with technical jargon.  It's based on a series of light novels, and apparently the production company assumes we've read them because nothing about how this universe works is ever explained.  Then there are the characters, which there are too many of and there is too little character development.  You also could create a very dangerous drinking game around the number of times in every episode the lead character, the Princess, cries (though oddly enough, she's one of the stronger characters on the show).

So what saves the show?  Well, Japan really doesn't do epic space opera anymore (in favor of shows with fetishes that quite disgust me), so when this show does space opera it's quite good.  The animation is also pretty decent, which is kind of unusual for Xebec.  The music is awesome, and the show generally ends well.  Overall, if you like Star Trek you might like this series.  Just makes sure to get up and make a sandwich or something when the giant mecha beasts (called "Nodos") step on-screen.  I assure you that you can finish a 3-course meal by the time a given fight scene is over.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 22, 2011, 04:17:36 PM
Heroic Age was comparatively good to what is usually being produced these days. I can suggest Aquarion (Mechs), Eden of the East (Sci-Fi Conspiracy? lol), Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple (Martial Arts), and Birdy The Mighty (Aliens) as good anime.

I've just been watching Dragon Ball lately. It's my favorite of the DB series, when Son Goku is still a kid and he just goes around exploring the world.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 22, 2011, 04:26:39 PM
Parks & Recreation came back as strong as ever. I strongly recommend everyone check it out. The first two seasons are on Netflix Instant Streaming; I recommend starting with the second season, as the first isn't that good and you'll get up to speed pretty quickly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 22, 2011, 05:54:23 PM
Heroic Age was comparatively good to what is usually being produced these days. I can suggest Aquarion (Mechs), Eden of the East (Sci-Fi Conspiracy? lol), Kenichi: The Mightiest Disciple (Martial Arts), and Birdy The Mighty (Aliens) as good anime.

Funny you should mention Eden of the East, because it's also one of the Blu-Ray sets I have on backorder right now.  I ordered it at the beginning of the month, and Amazon's saying it should arrive by the beginning of the next.  Yeah, Amazon really thought ahead and made sure they had ample supply because they started that sale.  Incidentally, Tears to Tiara is the last "new" show scheduled to arrive sometime soon, and it should be here Monday or Tuesday because I ordered it from TSRI.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 23, 2011, 12:37:33 AM
I've been catching up on my 'toons the last two weeks or so.  Family Guy, American Dad, Cleveland Show, the Simpsons.  Ordered several of the sets I was behind on picking up (only have four left, including the latest season of Futurama).  Still have 8 sets left to watch.  Should I watch Simpsons season 20, or wait it out for seasons 14-19 to be released?

Anywhoo - American Dad is the far superior series to Family Guy.  It's funny though, re-watching the American Dad pilot - it really started out as a pure Family Guy clone, with the non-nonsensical cut-scenes and such.

Partial Terms of Endearment - it was an okay episode of Family Guy.  Not worth full price.  Glad I got it cheap. :D

Seth MacFarlane's Cavalcade of Cartoon Comedy - Paid $2 for it.  Paid $3 too much.  It pretty much consists of Family Guy-esque cut-scenes.  Some are funny.  Most aren't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2011, 12:42:08 AM
Don't bother with the season 20 set, it was nothing but a cheap cash-in. The set is literally nothing but the episodes, no extras (except a trailer for the fan special they aired last year). Eventually they will release the real season set.

I agree with American Dad! being superior to Family Guy. The Cleveland Show is also superior to FG. I have "Partial Terms of Endearment" on my Netflix que list, I have no intention of buying it.

I just bought Futurama season 5 on Blu-ray Disc, although I don't think there are any extras on it compared to the DVD version (at least based on the boxes). I saw all the episodes on TV, so I already know what to expect from the episodes themselves.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on January 23, 2011, 12:43:55 AM
I watched the Witchblade anime on Netflix, and while I enjoyed it, it had a bit of that weirdness to it. I miss shows like Robotech and Cowboy Beebop. Less silly crap and more action. Seems you can't get too far from the silly **** though. I like Full Metal, but I can do without the exagerated mouth drops and crosses on foreheads. Beebop did a little of it, but not much. I tried Aquarion, but couldn't get into it. I'll have to see what I can find on Eden of the East, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 23, 2011, 12:55:59 AM
Don't bother with the season 20 set, it was nothing but a cheap cash-in. The set is literally nothing but the episodes, no extras (except a trailer for the fan special they aired last year). Eventually they will release the real season set.

Well, I already bought it. ;)
The only extras I've ever gotten into with any of the sets is the commentary on Simpsons DVDs... which, sadly, this set is missing. :(  Lucky, I only paid about $10 for it. :D

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I agree with American Dad! being superior to Family Guy. The Cleveland Show is also superior to FG. I have "Partial Terms of Endearment" on my Netflix que list, I have no intention of buying it.

I do like the Cleveland Show - I ordered season 1 from Amazon for $13.99 - can't wait for it to arrive.  As for PTE - they should have just thrown it on Volume 9 and called it a day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2011, 01:23:53 AM
You will like the season 1 set, the first episode even has Mike Henry doing a audio commentary in character as Cleveland. They also have a table reading of the episode featuring Kanye West (with West attending, which is rare for a guest star to attend table readings).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 23, 2011, 04:02:49 AM
I'm 4 episodes into The Wire, and so far it completely lives up to the massive amount of hype it gets. This show is amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2011, 12:54:09 PM
If you are liking the first 4, it only gets better as you get more invested.

I would have to say that s3 on the docks was the weak point, but even at it's weakest point it is still far better than most shows at their peaks.

The only show I've watched that I think was on the same level of development of character was The Shield which I actually liked better because it had more action. So after you watch The Wire, watch The Shield and you would have watched 2 of the best shows on television in as long as I can remember.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2011, 11:33:09 PM
Spartacus: Gods of the Arena

I think this episode has hit the record for Full Frontal in a single hour of scripted US television. But the show itself (a prequel to the 1st season) starts off very strong. If you were into the 1st season at all, then the second season opener does not disappoint.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 24, 2011, 12:18:15 AM
Totally agreed about Spartacus: GoA, it's Spartacus without Spartacus, and still good which is great for some of the characters. I was a little upset Lucy Lawless' character died, as I don't imagine she gets many offers for roles. Long live Xena!! I also hope the guy who played Spartacus makes a full recovery from his cancer, just like Dexter's actor did.

A couple other "premium" shows:
Shamless: I'm not sure I like this show, but it is horribly interesting. The reason I'm not sure I like it is because I don't really like any of the characters; I just don't get them. Having said that, I still badly want to see what happens. A character I especially don't like is the gay son, not because he's gay, but because he's the second gay (underage) son on Showtime to be having relations with an older man. I'm all for gay characters (Modern Family) but it really doesn't help the LGBT community to show older gay men as pedophiles.

Big Love: It's the final season, which I am disappointed about, but the complex dynamic that made the show great is still there, even if the first episode was a bit of a sleeper. It was just too obvious, which I may not have cared about, but this is the final season, and they only had a few things in there we couldn't have guessed would have happened.

The Onion News Network: Hilarious! If you've ever seen the movie, this is the same premise but with current issues and in half an hour form. From the way IFC promotes it, I guess they've done more than the movie, but it's all I've ever seen of them.


The Ricky Gervais Show: I almost don't like this show because I'm usually laughing so hard that I have to rewind to catch everything. Ricky Gervais can be sometime annoying, but the other two guys, especially the round headed guy make up for that. The round head guy is actually the star of the show, it is really fantastic.

Funny or Die Presents:

Absolute garbage, or just another show (like Always Sunny) that I just don't get.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2011, 12:37:32 AM
I'm not sure if you know this, but Shameless is based off a UK show that has already entered it's 8th season. I don't know how closelythey follow the story lines, but if you really wanna see where it might be going, you can check out the original.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 24, 2011, 09:31:27 AM
The Ricky Gervais Show: I almost don't like this show because I'm usually laughing so hard that I have to rewind to catch everything. Ricky Gervais can be sometime annoying, but the other two guys, especially the round headed guy make up for that. The round head guy is actually the star of the show, it is really fantastic.

Karl is a god. http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page (http://www.pilkipedia.co.uk/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on January 24, 2011, 06:04:19 PM
I didn't know the details about Shameless, but I knew there was an original because IFC airs it. Now that I've started the new series I would hate to cheat on it with the original lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 24, 2011, 11:42:40 PM
Another of my long-backordered anime Blu-Rays arrived today, and man you couldn't ask for a more different show than Heroic Age.  I'm 4 or so episodes into Tears to Tiara, and so far I really like this series.  I'm a big fan of the Fate/Stay Night anime series from a few years back, and this series shares a similar origin: an anime based on a censored Playstation 3 RPG remake of a PC erotica game.  Fate/Stay Night hid its origins fairly well, focusing on the Highlander-esque storyline with a slightly harem twist...and a terribly-animated CG sex dragon.  And no, I'm not going to give you the context for that (not that it would help, anyway).  Tears to Tiara cleans up well from its sordid origins, though not as well as Fate did, leaving a surprisingly straight-forward fantasy series loosly based on a combination of Greek, Celtic, Welsh, and Arthurian lore.  And oddly enough, both series involve (King) Arthur.  It's no Record of Lodoss War, but it's probably as close as you can ask for in this era of anime.  The story moves at a decent pace, and the characters are fun to watch.  This series knows what is is, and it's just going with it.

There are a couple of interesting things about the Blu-Ray: first off, this has to be the laziest Blu-Ray I've seen in anime yet (and the first I've seen from the recently-resurrected and renamed ADV Films-successor Sentai Filmworks).  The main menu just features a chapter listing with a single piece of artwork and no music.  As for the transfer, maybe Heroic Age; Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood; and Full Metal Panic - The Second Raid spoiled me, but this transfer looks very soft and probably not that much of a step up over a DVD transfer.  This is probably an upconvert.  The big notable feature of this Blu-Ray is that it features an English dub.  Apparently, the subtitle-only DVDs sold well enough to justify one, and wow does this dub make me feel nostalgic: it's definitely an ADV Films dub, with all the familiar voice actors playing very familiar roles and the dub in general being kind of gimmicky.  What makes the dub unique, though, is that the ADR director decided the best way to suit a world composed of heavily Celtic overtones...is to have most of the actors perform using hilariously Irish accents that I'm sure would offend actual Irish.  It's especially hilarious hearing Tiffany Grant try to do an Irish Accent, considering her stock and trade is German accents in other anime, and the cast in general sometimes forgets they're supposed to have Irish accents.  Still, for some bizarre reason, this dub works and it breaths a little unique life into a series that could be very dry and dull with the wrong execution.

Anime has a tradition of continual failure IMO when it comes to telling a consistent story and then wrapping it up with a fitting ending (with notable exceptions), so we'll see how I feel about it towards the end, but so far I rather enjoy the series and recommend it to those looking for relatively-serious fantasy anime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 25, 2011, 09:38:53 AM
Aw...it's almost adorable how much Sentai Filmworks wants to believe that this (http://www.behindthevoiceactors.com/tv-shows/Tears-to-Tiara/Rathy/) is a boy in the English dub of Tears to Tiara, and so cast Greg Ayers to voice her.  Granted, this isn't the best picture of her, but I guarantee you that a few minutes of googling would have cleared up the gender issue very quicklyOr if you just could not find the time, you could perhaps...use your eyes.  Ayers' performance is fine, but he is hilariously miscast.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 25, 2011, 01:27:49 PM
Speaking of Anime, just finished watching Gundam 00(Season 1 & 2) and have to report it's a lot of good looking wankery.

It's stuff like this that dissuade people from watching anime or put off fans. It contains a massive cast of characters that exist to be killed off, yet you just don't care as the show tries to develop them all with a terrible script which contains dialogue that doubles as comedy and torture. The protagonists are all cyphers with exactly one major flaw that is expected to be resolved in due time, with the grace of a sledgehammer and predicable enough to convince the audience think that they are clairvoyant. The villains are one dimensional psychopathic cut outs that love repeating themselves with motivations befitting cartoons like Elmer Fudd. Major political powers are not exempted from being given a cartoon once over.

Their idea of character development is to make everybody experience some "Tragedy", then proceed to have then do a 180 then resolve it through deus machina or in a lot of cases, in universe "Magical non-science". Plot lines tangle not unlike a smashed spiders web then straighten to form something linear.

The protagonists Gundams are so overpowered, it requires absolutely massive amount of plot wrangling to even present an illusion of tension. Sumeragi Lee Noriega (An export from Gundam Seed, Marrue Ramius who also has her counter part imported too) is an Operation Strategist who doesn't do her job very often and while elements of her plans are sort of clever, but at the end of the day it just comes down to the Gundams overpowering the opposing force. The writers then notice that they are overpowered, so they present a much stronger opposition to balance it out only to go too far only to re-compensate by making the protagonists even more powerful than ever, rinse and repeat until everything becomes arbitrary.

There are a lot of themes like war and peace. The nature of existence, vengeance and the like. It's handled clumsly and gets brushed aside whenever it is convenient for the action. The themes are distilled and reduced to mere slogans the characters shout like catch phrases. This insanity drives the characters to kill each other as they literally live these slogans without thought. God is tossed in and gets dropped halfway through, then picked back up as villains start proclaiming themsleves God.

Whoever wrote the dialogue, loves people's full names. Characters tell everybody else's full names like they are reading name tags regardless of how relevant or familiar they are. If you stacked all the full names end on end you could burn a full 60 Minutes out of the total 600 minutes running time of both seasons. Slogans abound and calling your attacks are back with a vengeance with a twist! They call half their attacks after they have attacked.

They also import Lacus Clyne in the name of Marina Ismail, the Princess "Elected Queen" of what is modern day Iran who's entire existence is utterly pointless unlike her original. She "sings" like Lacus, but it's entirely pointless like everything this character does and is so overpowered by the children singing with her, you could remove her voice and not notice. The opening and closing songs are justas bad as Marina Ismail, flat, uninspired, auto-tuned and equally pointless.

As the first Gundam series to be done in HD, it looks sharp. But the extra pixels are wasted. The only things that really benefit from this are the computer display text and the particles. Oh the particles, everything that moves spew particles. It a cheap effect to use now that everything mechanical is animated by computer, so is spammed relentlessly. While I don't like any of the designs of the Mobile suits, they are rendered well and animated with great precise fluidity only a computer can offer. Due to the lowered costs, there is very little recycling going on and battles are vast without losing much detail.

The incidental music is quite good, but lacking quantity. You hear the same loop from the beginning of the series to the final episode. While this normally wouldn't be too much a problem for a much shorter series, there is just too much repetition. Sounds effects are pretty standard, but lacking depth.

The director manages to pull out of all this some cool action scenes like the destruction of a space elevator and the resulting aftermath, but he is crippled by the vast collective weight of retardation over everything he has to work with.

This show is a gold plated poisonous turd attached to a jackhammer, just as aggravating and destructive. Watch at your own risk.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 25, 2011, 01:36:32 PM
Yeah, I've only seen the first half of Gundam 00 (I have the other half, but haven't gotten around to it yet), but that was roughly my opinion of the show as well.  It's a Gundam Seed-ized Gundam Wing, with just as much self-righteousness; just as much pretentiousness; and just as much poor writing.  I've had a bit of a falling out with Gundam since the mediocre-to-abysmal Seed Destiny, and this certainly didn't help matters.  Aside from the superb Gundam 8th MS Team; the second half of Gundam Seed; and some of the goofier bits of G Gundam, I can't say I really care for the franchise much anymore.
 
And what is up with all the pink explosions, anyway?   :confused;   I've never understood that addition to Gundam that's stuck around since Seed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 25, 2011, 02:04:27 PM
They are purple in Gundam 00, but yeah, no bloody idea. I actually like the pink explosions over the purple ones. The purple is too dark, lacking in energy.

Gundam Seed is an excellent retelling of a classic story with the only flaw being the director's blatant abuse of flashbacks that becomes a systemic cancer with Destiny. While Destiny is heavily flawed, it's quite watchable and enjoyable compared to 00 or Wing(dings) or Victory Gundam which is another terrible Gundam that goes on for 51 episodes!.

Are you as confused aboutTieria Erde as I am? Well atleast I got a good laugh out of that character and some very messed up Bridget level of confusion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 25, 2011, 02:05:40 PM
Are you as confused aboutTieria Erde as I am? Well atleast I got a good laugh out of that character and some very messed up Bridget level of confusion.

Sorry, I haven't seen the first half of Gundam 00 in probably about a year or so, so I have no idea who you're talking about.
 
Edit: *runs a Google Search*  Oh yeah...that prick.  He's...unlikeable, and it really shows how memorable that cast is if that's all I can think of to say about him.  I don't know about him being "confusing" since I haven't seen all of 00, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 25, 2011, 02:21:32 PM
I believe this Link (http://l7world.com/2008/11/gundam-b00bs.html) will provide you all the info you need without causing too much damage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 27, 2011, 09:49:11 PM
My Eden of the East Blu-Ray set arrived today, and I've delved into the first few episodes.  So far, I'm pretty happy with this Mystery series, despite the cliche right off the bat of the main character having a dark past but no memory of it.  It just clicks with me, reminding me somewhat of the days when I would watch the likes of Cowboy Bebop and other such shows that had wide appeal.  The dub's pretty good so far as well, but on the audio side what I'd really like to draw attention to is...well...

THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwLsw9MlzJQ&feature=related)

That is probably the most badass anime opening theme song I've heard since When They Cry's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hHKmiRwyBU); Shakugan no Shana's (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBvpBCgiZ7M); and Code Geass' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHPRAI1RMZw&feature=fvst) a few years back.  I'm a strong proponent of music and audio in general in my entertainment, despite seemingly most people ignoring it in theirs.  Because of this, I can usually tell how good a piece of entertainment will be within the first 5 minutes by listening to the music.  If the creators cared enough to devote time and effort into something most people ignore on a conscious level, chances are they cared enough to put a AAA effort into everything else (also known as, to me, the "Yoko Kanno Principle"  ;) ).  That intro is just about perfect, very well timed and energetic, setting the tone and mood of the series excellently. 

Unfortunately, because the band Oasis and the record companies wanted licensing fees for every instance the song was used on the discs, Funimation could not obtain the rights to use the song on the North American DVDs/Blu-Rays beyond the first episode.  As a result, they were forced to use a secondary song the production company picked for the international release, and it's well...this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tb09jB1BM9A&feature=related).  It's so generic; slow; and sets the completely wrong tone, lacking any of the energy of the original version and the animation obviously isn't timed to it.  Pity that music licensing rights had to get in the way, but at least Funimation was able to license the original song for the first episode's intro.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 28, 2011, 02:47:07 PM
Eden of the East (TV) - Yeah, I marathoned the whole 11-episode show in one night, and overall I do really like it...Buuuuuuuuuuutt, this is one of the more frustrating series I've seen in a while.  It's a good show that could have been great if Production I.G. had tightened up the script, because this show is full of plot holes and plot threads that don't really seem to go anywhere.  It's perfectly fine for the first 8 or so episodes moving at its own leisurely pace, and then suddenly in the last 3 episodes the writers just throw in information dump after flashback after plot convenience.  This series was originally supposed to have a second season, which then became 2 movies.  Something tells me that the writers suddenly realized in the last few episodes that they weren't going to get that second season so the series needed to end immediately and set up the movies, so they scrambled to just throw something up.  Sadly, this leads to a pretty sloppy open ending that feels impenetrable in its half-assed complexity and contrivance, as well as making the viewer wonder why several characters and plotlines in the story even needed to exist (especially since the main character has essentially a magic cellphone).  I also have to wonder why the show is called "Eden of the East", when the series' namesake only has a token role in the story.
 
Those gripes aside, this is still a fun, addictive, and most gratifyingly original show that will keep you hooked until the end.  The animation is excellent (though I see Production I.G. still can't animate CG cars with any semblance of believability), the English dub is excellent, and the music is above-average (especially the show's original intro, as I've detailed previously).  I'm looking forward to the show's 2 sequel movies releasing later this year, which perhaps might give this story a proper ending.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 29, 2011, 06:50:43 PM
Spartacus Season 2

This show picks up exactly where it left off -- being the best softcore porno I've ever seen. I mean, what other show has a chick orgasming in the same montage as a dude getting merked?

But in all seriousness, the best thing about the show is how conniving motherfuckers are willing to be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 29, 2011, 07:24:35 PM
Where it left off? Season 2 is more of a prequel season than anything else. It's still enjoyable though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2011, 07:33:30 PM
He explained what he meant. It's still the best softcore porno on cable TV.

And the way the season starts, it appears that it's all a flash back in Bautiatus' life in his last moments before death. Like a reflection of what got him to where we ended the 1st season.

My favorite new show by far. The deceit and backstabbery are top notch on this show. It's a shame that this season is only 6 episodes long especially since I was disappointed that last season was only 12 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 29, 2011, 07:52:42 PM
This season is only 6 episodes long?

That blows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on January 29, 2011, 11:42:19 PM
Eh, what a short season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2011, 11:57:04 PM
Well it was originally supposed to be a pre-season 2 filler that was gonna air to give time to Spartacus recover from his Non Hodgkins Lymphoma, but that didn't work out as planned, so now this is the new Season 2.

Only good thing about it is that they get to boil the story down to just what is important and avoid all the filler eps and drawn out plotlines and dialogue. Not that last season had any of that, but it was only 12 episodes long unlike most TV shows that might get drawn out to 20 or so episodes.

OTOH though, Dexter was only 12 episodes long and we just had an entire filler season. Most other shows could learn a lesson or two from Spartacus about storytelling and drawing a lot of emotion and character out of so few episodes. I could definitely do with more shorter but great shows than fewer longer but decent ones. But if that's not possible, then more shows could follow the half season story arcs instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 30, 2011, 12:14:19 AM
yeah, Walking dead was only 6 episodes the first season....what the heck with such short seasons lately? i guess budgetary restraints? The way its going is there is going to be 6 episodes a year on some of these shows...and the plotlines will go nowhere. A mini-series is 3 episodes....and each episode in a mini series is 1- 2 hours long....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2011, 12:52:34 AM
Walking Dead had a really high budget for a TV show though, so they only ordered a 6 episode season just incase it didn't take off. In hind sight, I'm sure they wished they had ordered atleast a 9 episode run, but I'm not sure I would have like The Walking Dead if it was any longer. At least not if they stretched that same exact plot line out for another 3 episodes. They should go with 6 episode half seasons to keep the plot lines tight and the story moving along.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 30, 2011, 01:11:31 AM
thats the thing though....they dont have to write the plotlines! They deviated from the comic a bit, which is good, because otherwise it would be like watching something I read previously, but it was like the last episode was filler. This isn't the first post-apocalyptic show I've seen, the British show Survivors started off really good...and then got mind numbingly boring. The comics are full of action though. I always read the comics in the graphic novel form, which was like 6 months worth of comics. They were about a 2 hour read. If going by the comics...we aren't even on issue 6 yet(the comics are about 24 pages each). So, talk about dragging things out. It isn't like the show is bad, but it could head that way if it starts getting like Survivors.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2011, 03:55:46 PM
But they still have to adapt it to TV and that's not as easy as it sounds, and I'm not specifically focusing on just The Walking Dead, but all TV shows of it's type. It's best for certain types of shows to not drag things out longer than they need to just because they are trying to fill a certain number of programming slots throughout the year. It's also good for those types of shows to know when the story is over and end it on a high note and let everyone involved move onto a new project instead of dragging it out and ruining whatever the show had going for it.


But on a completely unrelated note. I'm all caught up on It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. Not quite as funny as it's been hyped up to be, but it definitely has it's moments.... quite a few of them actually. Everybody is a bunch of self-serving assholes with the combined common sense and maturity of a bunch of first time drunk & high 12 year olds. Since I marathoned it(all 6 seasons) over the last couple of weeks, everytime I feel the need to rant about something I always picture it happening the voice of Charlie with that raspy yell. Also Mac's portrayal of Dee at the costume party was probably the hardest laugh I had during the entire run so far.

Any word on when the 7th season starts?

also it it wrong that when I see of this
(http://i56.tinypic.com/b472nc.jpg)
I think of "Frank" wanting to play a prank on The Gang but something went wrong off screen at the last second and now he's trying to get the hell out of there instead?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2011, 06:52:20 PM
Shameless (US)

New show in Showtime that's a remake of a UK show that's in it's 8th or 9th season now. Down and out welfare family struggling on a day to day basis. Disabled alchololic dad that's more interested in being drunk than anything else. Early 20 something daughter who has had to take on role of caretaker. 2 Brothers, one smart the other gay. A younger sister and a youngest half brother all living in the same house. And the 2 neighbors that all contribute to this rag tag group of urban miscreants. Only 1 episode in, but so far I'm into it.

For some reason I find the oldest daughter to be really damn attractive. Like a mix of a young Julia Roberts meets this girl I went to HS with. Combined, she is hotter than them both. She is my main draw to this show ATM, but it is interesting.


(http://i56.tinypic.com/2qslxsn.jpg)


I've seen all 3 episodes, and I am just drawn in by her.
Emily Rossum I think.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 31, 2011, 12:03:52 AM
Well, I've finished Tears to Tiara, and overall I'm pretty satisfied with this relatively-straightforward fantasy anime.  The series has a good flow to it, character designs and personalities are nice and distinct, the animation is above average for television animation (though still nothing extraordinary), the quirky English dub is excellent, and for fracking ONCE the series features a satisfying ending that wraps up the major plot points of the series.  Aside from some rather convenient writing towards the end, a fairly bland music score, and a couple fairly wasted characters (the elves, mainly), there really isn't much to complain about here.  I definitely recommend it if you are looking for a successor to Record of Lodoss war.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 31, 2011, 05:18:54 PM
The Wire -- so far 11/10

I've been watching this show as if it were my job. I'm in the middle of the 3rd season and it's making me feel good. I've even clapped at the end of episodes as if it were the premiere of a hollywood blockbuster. This show is engaging, brilliant, and most of all, thorough. I know the characters so well that 99% of the time I can logically conclude what they are going to do. There are some curve balls but rarely though the characters themselves. You see the crossroads coming in regards to characters ambitions. They are that well-rounded and contemplated. It's unlike any show I've encountered. "Best show on TV"? More like "Best show period".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2011, 10:14:48 PM
The Wire is great, but I still consider The Shield as my #1 Cop involved show ever. The Wire is a close 2nd though.
They are very different shows and not really directly comparable, but since they always seem to be, I thought I would make my preference known... again.

But as to why I came back into this thread;
I've decided that I'm never gonna finish 24 or Lost and that Sopranos was low on my watch list at this point in time. I'm all caught up on every other show I watch or have started at this time (except for Skins s5 UK), and that is ALOT of TV shows* at this point in time. So now I'm looking for a new show to watch inbetween all those other shows. Ive currently decided on Carnivale. A cancelled HBO show about a traveling Circus that has been highly rated by fans and supposedly abruptly ends somewhere in the 2nd season, yet is supposedly still very worth the watch.

I just put on the 1st episode of s1, should I continue knowing the show never finishes even though I am mildly interested in the first 15 minutes so far?
Is there something else worth checking out at the moment? preferably something that is many seasons deep and/or already off the air?


* Current DVR Schedule:
Sun: Family Guy, Cleveland, American Dad, Shameless
Mon: House, Chuck, Being Human
Tue: No Ordinary Family, V, Tosh.0
Wed: Human Target, Modern Family, The Middle, Cougar Town
Thu: Community, 30 Rock, Royal Pains
Fri: Smallville, Supernatural, Spartacus
Sat: N/A

Other Shows: Skins (UK), Misfits (UK), It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, Dexter, Weeds, Boardwalk Empire

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 31, 2011, 11:36:23 PM
Boardwalk Empire is dope. Slow but like The Wire, it's all for character development. And we know that's coming back with a second season later this year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2011, 12:14:25 AM
yeah, I'm all caught up on that(it's listed at the bottom).

I just realized that Breaking Bad is also in my "to be watched soon" queue.
Maybe I'll watch that instead of Carnivale.... or maybe just finish Carnivale since it's only 2 seasons long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2011, 02:01:37 AM
Well...I've lost all interest in The Wire. How after I was so ecstatic? Well because Stringer, my favorite character, has been murdered.

BnM, should I continue watching?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 02:30:50 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/2QdsQ.jpg)
That was Season 3 right? You are already past the worst (s2 @ The Docks) and the the show only gets better from there
Your most hated event is only leading up to a more intense show, so yes you should continue if for nothing else just to finish the story.

You can still root for Omar... even though you may not agree with all of his umm... lifestyle choices.
You only got 2 more seasons to go.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2011, 04:43:28 AM
Omar's my nigga, don't get me twisted. But Bell was me. The cold calculating type, with his mind on the end result. It's a shame that I basically died.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 05:05:56 AM
"They seen your ghetto ass coming from a mile away"

Definitely finish the show. That was a Holy **** moment, but the rest of the show is still pretty good (s4 is barely better than s2, but s5 is really good).

Going off memory I think I would rank it like this;
s3 > s5 > s1 > s4 > s2
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2011, 06:52:23 PM
This was the worst season yet.

I have no one to root for.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 07:06:58 PM
which season are you on?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2011, 07:58:11 PM
Just finished 3, bout to start 4.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 02, 2011, 11:33:07 PM
Did anyone watch Tosh.0 last night?

2 words. Vathighna & Thunt.

If you saw the episode, you would know what I'm talking about. That part had me almost spit-take my green tea.
I didn't see it on the Tosh.0 website, but I found the pic he used elsewhere
http://tinyurl.com/29lq53h (http://tinyurl.com/29lq53h) - NSFW (it is SFW, but it doesn't look like it is)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 03, 2011, 10:48:09 PM
Tsubasa: Tokyo Revelations/Spring Thunder OVA Collection (Blu) - Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicles is not a good anime series.  It's badly animated (Bee Train...ugh...), it's badly written, it's slightly boring to watch, and calling the story progression "glacial" is a vast understatement (you could literally cut out all but about 6-8 of the 52 episodes, and you'd lose nothing).  The main villain spends the entire run of the show sitting on a couch watching the action unfold, as if he's prepping to be Darkseid's understudy in Countdown (if you got that reference, congrats).  The show also literally doesn't end by the end of the 2nd season, insulting anyone who stuck around just to see how it would end.  Despite this, the show's something of a guilty pleasure for me and I really don't understand why, save that the character interactions are genuinely entertaining, the show has a generally-pleasing art design, and the anime-meets-Sliders concept is interesting to watch.  It's the kind of relaxed show you put on the background while you're doing something tedious to make the experience more bearable.

So naturally, Funimation recently released a Blu-Ray set containing the 5 OVA episodes produced after the series run, episodes that originally were only included as bonus pack-ins with volumes of the associated manga in Japan.  I just finished watching them, and...well...

Holy Crap.

Funimation should have changed the name of these OVAs to "Tsubasa: STUFF FINALLY ****ING HAPPENS!!!"  I'm serious, more happens in these 5 OVA episodes than happened in the entirety of the 52-episode TV series.  "Tokyo Revelations", indeed.  The main villain's plans are finally revealed (though he still never leaves that goddamn couch, and it's not really clear why his plan would fulfill his goal.   :@ ), the story takes many giant leaps forward (one too many, actually.  There's a major story arc that's shown only in pieces in flashback form that was a major storyline in the TV series), and some pretty brutal and messed-up stuff happens to the main characters.  The xxxHolic connections pretty much removed from the anime make a delightful return.  Even girly-girl Sakura actually does stuff in these episodes besides just sit around and look mopey as everyone fights on her behalf!  With Bee Train now out of the picture, Production I.G. takes up the animation reins, and words can't convey what an utter improvement that is.  Where was all this in the TV series?

Of course, though, just as these episodes were really gearing up and our heroes were set to take the fight to our villain...the set's over, and there has been no word of future Tsubasa releases since the last episodes of this set released in 2009.  How fitting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 05, 2011, 03:35:06 AM
Whole lot of the Witchblade anime. I started not really liking it...way too overtly sexual in the beginning, but it's changing as the heroine becomes more in control of the Witchblade. It's not the best anime in the world (the animation is up and down) but it has its moments. I wish more crap was being explained, like exactly what Ex-Cons are.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 05, 2011, 11:08:46 PM
Smallville

HAHAHALOL
Smallville was the Matrix last night, Clark was Neo, Chloe was Trinity, VRA was the Agents and a lone Agent took over Chloe's Avatar and was Agent Smith.
They shamelessly ripped off the Matrix and I can't be sure but i think they even lifted some lines straight from the movie. On the plus side, Clark finally flew... but it was only in the virtual world. I guess you gotta take what you can get. It's a shame though, because Smallville has been on such a roll just before the break only to return with this episode. Hopefully next week is better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 08, 2011, 03:04:41 AM
I'm a bit behind Unagi, so I just finished the first season of The Wire. The season was 13 episodes long, and I did that in three sittings, including the last 6 in a row just now. This show is just amazing. The thing is, while I'm glad there's more of it because it's so fantastic, I feel like if season 1 were a movie, I'd be upset if I heard they were making a sequel. Season 1 was just so perfect as it was; it doesn't seem to need anything further.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 08, 2011, 05:16:09 PM
Fringe is really ramping up in Season 3 as it heads first into its own thing. I really love the use of the twin towers as a stark contrast between each universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 11, 2011, 12:57:28 AM
Parks and Recreation - 9/10
This has pretty much become my favorite show. I'm not sure if it's because The Office started off weak this season (though it's become hilarious once again), but this show gets funnier every week. Only bad thing this week was a *huge* spoiler during a promo when the commercials started at the final break (before the credits/"bonus" 30 second scene), so if you are a fan and have it on DVR (and you should), I highly recommend fast forwarding through the commercials.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 11, 2011, 01:31:15 AM
I have it on DVR, but I'll probably watch it on Hulu; either way I'm good. It really is a fantastic show, the best comedy on television right now, especially given weaker than I expected showings this season from Community and It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 11, 2011, 10:08:35 PM
In addition to all the new (and new to me) stuff I watch, I also tend to have a lot of older stuff I've seen before on in the background while I do other things. Recently, the rotation has brought me around to Spin City. It's a really good workplace comedy, with an excellent cast and great writing. I liked it the whole way through, but it was at its best in its first four seasons, before Michael J. Fox left.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 11, 2011, 10:12:28 PM
I loved Spin City, and I will agree that it was not as good once Charlie Sheen came in to replace Michael J. Fox (although I still like it later). Barry Bostwick was great as the mayor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 12, 2011, 10:18:58 AM
Don't know if I mentioned it before, but the show Working with Fred Savage was hilarious (at least I thought).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 12, 2011, 12:49:49 PM
Don't know if I mentioned it before, but the show Working with Fred Savage was hilarious (at least I thought).

I second this. Office Crush episode was so true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 13, 2011, 09:33:08 PM
Man, I need to rent Spin City. That show was so great!

If I recall correctly, early seasons featured Carla Gugino.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 13, 2011, 09:53:55 PM
You are correct...Jesus I wish there was a full color version of Sin City...at least certain scenes.

Edit - yes, I know you're talking about Spin City the TV show, but I'm referring to Sin City.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 15, 2011, 07:56:50 PM
Monday Night Raw was the most electrifying WWE programming in seven long years...

...if ya smeeeeelllllalalalalow...

...what The Rock...











...is cookin'.

10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 15, 2011, 08:08:23 PM
Huh? I actually like your post. That was easily the best part of Raw, and makes me wish more people were as good on the mic as him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on February 15, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
The man made "fruity pebbles" a badass insult last night.

I'm buying Wrestlemania just to see what happens.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 15, 2011, 08:23:42 PM
I wonder how serious he was about not going away again. I don't expect him to be there every week, but it would be nice to see him on a regular basis again.

And I guess the censor fell asleep or something, because the only part of his comments that got muted was during his line about being a jabroni-beating, pie eating...

There is apparently speculation that someone else will also be appearing on next week's Raw (one person is obviously The Undertaker, but the second video showed another person as well).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 15, 2011, 08:52:29 PM
The Rock is wrestling again?


Is Stone Cold still doing his thing?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 15, 2011, 09:07:28 PM
No, Rock returned to announce that he would be the "guest host" of WrestleMania XXVII. He did say he would not be leaving though.

Austin will probably never return full time due to injuries (he may have one match left though). Austin will be the host of Tough Enough when it returns the night after WrestleMania (it will then run every Monday night before Raw).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 15, 2011, 09:30:32 PM
Pretty sure RAW is technically over at 11:05, so anything in the over-run doesn't have to be TV-PG. Rock said he could never come back and fit in with the PG rating, looks like he was serious. He also pretty much said he plans on kicking John Cena's ass at some point, and single-handedly (as in the hand that was holding the microphone) bitch-slapped the past seven years of WWE programming. Jesus Christ that was awesome.

Edit - my "Finally the Rock Has Come Back to Orlando" shirt has been waiting in my closet for years...time to bust it back out! I wonder if he'll be at WrestleMania next year (it's in Miami after all). If he is, then I will be there too (I was at WM25 in Orlando).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 16, 2011, 07:06:01 PM
Human Life 10/10 if it keeps up like this

Made by the same people that gave us Planet Earth and Blue Planet, Human Life is an objective study about how we humans live and ultimately excel in whatever environment we are pitted against. There's only one episode out at this point and it was leaked, but it's enough for me to be enthralled in this should-be-great series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 21, 2011, 06:46:40 PM
I'm still waiting for the upcoming Blu-Ray release of this, but I've started watching the anime Soul Eater.  I'm up through the first 3 episodes, and while this show has some problems (I really can't stand one of the protagonists) I've found it pretty enjoyable.  The concept is paper-thin and involves a bunch of kids at a Death Training Academy training to battle (and subsequently take the souls) of evil beings that exist to devour others' souls.  Get 99 of those evil souls and the soul of a witch, and you become a member of Death's Army (yes, the Grim Reaper himself) as a "Deathscythe".  If this show sounds somewhat familiar to other shows in the Shonen model like Naruto and Bleach...that's because it is.  However, the show has a nice sense of "fun" to it, the dub is nice and quirky, the show has an interesting and extremely cartoony art style to it, and (being made by Bones) the show has some decent to above-average animation.  Best of all, in a genre filled with ludicrously long shows (200+ episodes), Soul Eater is blessedly only 52 episodes long so hopefully the filler will be kept to a minimum for a change.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 22, 2011, 01:46:54 AM
Soul Eater is great. Who is it that you can't stand?

I finished Basilisk. I enjoyed it, but the ending? Boooooooooo.

Started to watch Heroic Age on bluray. Love it even if it's the second time I'm watching it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 22, 2011, 03:41:26 AM
Soul Eater is great. Who is it that you can't stand?

Black Star.  His personality just grates on me, as if someone took the worst traits of Naruto and multiplied them x100.  Tsubaki, quite possibly the best and most versatile of the Weapons, is pretty much wasted on him.  I'm 10 episodes in, though, and he's starting to approach "tolerable".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 22, 2011, 11:23:29 AM
Black Star is one of my favorites lol, but his character does get better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 22, 2011, 11:27:16 AM
What is a hip/hop group doing in an Anime show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 24, 2011, 02:58:46 PM
Carnivale

This show is much like that TV show Jericho in that it just took too long to get you invested into the show before it became really interesting. The characters seem interesting, but everything just slowly moved along slowly pulling back the curtain while they try to build the individual characters of the show. Problem is that it just took a little too long and it didn't help that there wasn't a single attractive person on the show... not even the ones that were getting naked.

Fortunately, things picked up in the second season, With all the character building out of the way, they were able to focus on the real story. The bad part is that the season ends leaving you wanting to know what was gonna happen next, but sadly we will never know since it was cancelled.


Currently enjoying Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 24, 2011, 04:34:33 PM
I just finished the second season of The Wire. If BnM is right and it is the weakest season, this is the greatest show in the history of television.

EDIT: Just to be clear, even if he's wrong, it's probably still the best show ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 24, 2011, 05:07:08 PM
s2 is the weakest season of the 5, but that doesn't mean it was bad. The Wire's weakest is still better than most good shows best.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2011, 07:16:46 PM
Breaking Bad

I just finished all 3 seasons of Breaking Bad and OMG, when does s4 start? Everytime things seem to start looking up, something has to go wrong or someone has to get greedy and **** everything thing up. Why can't people just be happy getting paid and getting paid good. They are constantly diving in head first and biting off more than they can chew. Constantly trying to compete 2 leagues above their station and always drowning in their own miserable self complicated existence. This show is great, I'm hooked, and if I had to rate the 3 seasons so far it would be 3>1>>2.

And for those wondering what the show is about, it's about a highly overqualified HS Chemistry teacher who finds out he has lung cancer even though he has never smoked or done anything of the sort during his entire life. He figures his time is almost up, his wife is pregnant again with an unexpected baby, his only son has Cerebral Palsy, they have a mortgage on the house and his death benefits are not likely to take care of his family for very long especially considering they don't have enough insurance to cover all his treatments for cancer. After seeing the amount of money that his DEA brother-in-law confiscated from a local Meth dealer, he decided that if some loser junkie flunky could cook up something to make that kind of money, how hard can it be for a very determined Doctorate owning chemistry specialist with a lot of free time and a clock winding down to it's last few ticks?
So he sets out to make his own meth and set his family up with enough cash to pay for his treatments and take care of them in his absence.






Up next on the watch list is Mad Men
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 25, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
Breaking Bad was already next on my list once I finish The Wire, and you just got me more excited for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Where are you in the Wire?

And is The Shield on your list too? or have you already watched it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 25, 2011, 09:46:59 PM
Breaking Bad

I just finished all 3 seasons of Breaking Bad and OMG, when does s4 start? Everytime things seem to start looking up, something has to go wrong or someone has to get greedy and **** everything thing up. Why can't people just be happy getting paid and getting paid good. They are constantly diving in head first and biting off more than they can chew. Constantly trying to compete 2 leagues above their station and always drowning in their own miserable self complicated existence. This show is great, I'm hooked, and if I had to rate the 3 seasons so far it would be 3>1>>2.

And for those wondering what the show is about, it's about a highly overqualified HS Chemistry teacher who finds out he has lung cancer even though he has never smoked or done anything of the sort during his entire life. He figures his time is almost up, his wife is pregnant again with an unexpected baby, his only son has Cerebral Palsy, they have a mortgage on the house and his death benefits are not likely to take care of his family for very long especially considering they don't have enough insurance to cover all his treatments for cancer. After seeing the amount of money that his DEA brother-in-law confiscated from a local Meth dealer, he decided that if some loser junkie flunky could cook up something to make that kind of money, how hard can it be for a very determined Doctorate owning chemistry specialist with a lot of free time and a clock winding down to it's last few ticks?
So he sets out to make his own meth and set his family up with enough cash to pay for his treatments and take care of them in his absence.

Up next on the watch list is Mad Men

Breaking Bad always seemed like the kind of show that never lets up, like Six Feet Under. I just can't watch shows like that anymore.

Yet I like Mad Men. Go figure. Christina Hendricks helps.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 25, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
Where are you in the Wire?

And is The Shield on your list too? or have you already watched it?

I just finished season 2 yesterday, and am planning on starting the third tomorrow. I've never seen The Shield, but your talk about it earlier in the thread putting it in the same league as The Wire definitely made me interested in it at some point. I want to do Breaking Bad first, since a friend of mine has been bugging me to watch it for a long time (the new season starts in July, to answer your earlier question), and then I'll either watch The Shield or Mad Men, depending on how I'm feeling then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2011, 11:15:19 PM
Breaking Bad

I just finished all 3 seasons of Breaking Bad and OMG, when does s4 start? Everytime things seem to start looking up, something has to go wrong or someone has to get greedy and **** everything thing up. Why can't people just be happy getting paid and getting paid good. They are constantly diving in head first and biting off more than they can chew. Constantly trying to compete 2 leagues above their station and always drowning in their own miserable self complicated existence. This show is great, I'm hooked, and if I had to rate the 3 seasons so far it would be 3>1>>2.

And for those wondering what the show is about, it's about a highly overqualified HS Chemistry teacher who finds out he has lung cancer even though he has never smoked or done anything of the sort during his entire life. He figures his time is almost up, his wife is pregnant again with an unexpected baby, his only son has Cerebral Palsy, they have a mortgage on the house and his death benefits are not likely to take care of his family for very long especially considering they don't have enough insurance to cover all his treatments for cancer. After seeing the amount of money that his DEA brother-in-law confiscated from a local Meth dealer, he decided that if some loser junkie flunky could cook up something to make that kind of money, how hard can it be for a very determined Doctorate owning chemistry specialist with a lot of free time and a clock winding down to it's last few ticks?
So he sets out to make his own meth and set his family up with enough cash to pay for his treatments and take care of them in his absence.

Up next on the watch list is Mad Men

Breaking Bad always seemed like the kind of show that never lets up, like Six Feet Under. I just can't watch shows like that anymore.

Yet I like Mad Men. Go figure. Christina Hendricks helps.

Breaking Bad is NOT Endlessly Depressing. In fact they almost never let you feel bad or depressed about anything or anyone. You watch a desperate man who only wants to provide for his family slowly become everything he never thought in his wildest dreams he would become. You see him transform from a by the book stand up guy just trying to stay within the lines to a bad ass take no ****  C.R.E.A.M. Get The Money Motherf***er.

As a matter of fact, there are so bad ass moments throughout Season 3. Make no mistake, this show is nothing like SixFeetUnder. not in tone, content or depression to the point of suicide storylines. This show is about someone that doesn't want to be depressed, sitting around waiting for death to finally snuff out their light. Someone that doesn't want to sit around and just see where things take him, so he takes life by the horns and and goes out to get his. It's actually quite the opposite to that horribly sad and depressing show, so considering how you feel about SFU, you might want to fast track this show up your list since you had it all wrong.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2011, 03:25:10 AM
Holy ****!!! @ the final blow in the opening games in Spartacus: Gods of the Arena.

I almost thought it was a scene straight out of Saw.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2011, 11:48:30 PM
Mad Men Season 1

This show is nothing like I was expecting, and because of that, it took me a little while to get over it and enjoy it for what it actually was. I'm not so sure what my expectations were or how they got where they were, but I was expecting some mafioso type situation, not boardroom politics and backroom shenanigans.

This show is about The Advertising Business and more specifically, focusing mostly on one man at an Advertising Firm. It's an interesting, nothing too crazy happened, but Sterling Cooper sounds like the place to work back then (if you are a white male). It actually reminds me of 2 jobs I had where the men would conspire around the women of the office, some even benefiting from what I will refer to as "Office Syndrome"*  & others desperately throwing themselves out there for any sort of attention.

I've actually gotten into this show( and I might have given up if it weren't for my girl liking it), but up until near the end of the 1st season, I had to keep guessing what year it was and how much time was passing since they give you no reference of time. I noticed somewhere around the middle of the season that Peggy looked pregnant since she had a little gut growing on her. My girl thought I was crazy for even mentioning such a thin, But then she went from mousy unattractive to fat rat looking complete with chubby cheeks and second chins. My girl kept thinking I was an ass for thinking that she was pregnant, fat, ugly and disgusting[....and maybe I was, but my suspicions turned out to be true in the end, So whatever. We're still not sure how she could have given birth to a baby that big and healthy looking while barely showing and not even have known she was pregnant at all or that anything was wrong until she was about to pop the baby out

Also I can't stand the way Campbell talks, Cut throat Bitch is the neighbor to the Drapers (from House M.D.), Annie is much cuter on Community(she doesn't even look like the same person), Mrs. Draper looks like a Stepford Wife, Cooper looks like a short fat Colonel Sanders, Campbells secretary is the finest chick in the building and last but not least Christina Hendricks is beautiful on the show as she fits the style perfectly, but WTF is up with that 45o angled hinge on her neck? She needs posture lessons to bring her head straight up and her shoulders back.

Now having said all that.... On to Season 2.


edit: I forgot to mention that I love the intro music.
It's like a hip hop infused waltz or something. I keep picturing Antonio Banderas teaching a bunch of troubled highschool youth how to dance classically to it.


edit 2: I forgot to explain "Office Syndrome"
It's something that I've first seen explained on a TV show called Working (s1e2) starring Fred Savage (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0118517/). Where you work in an office environment seeing the same people day in and day out. Some you find attractive and some you don't. Eventually the ones you don't start to slowly become attractive as you start overlooking the things that un-attracted you in the first place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 07, 2011, 12:45:59 AM
I'm trying to somehow get through the pilot for the American version of "Being Human", just for something different to watch.  Unfortunately, the show is pretty bad.  The Werewolf is incredibly whiny, the vampire is a Twilight reject sans glitter sparkles (and it frustrated me that this "vampire" has a normal life and job during the day in full sunlight, which makes no sense), and the ghost is just annoying.  Maybe I was just expecting a more refined or interesting show than it is (an angsty drama for the 'tween" demographic), but I just do not like this show so far.  I haven't seen the UK version to compare, though I can't imagine it being any worse than "Siffy's" version.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on March 07, 2011, 04:47:24 AM
Soul Eater is great. Who is it that you can't stand?

Black Star.  His personality just grates on me, as if someone took the worst traits of Naruto and multiplied them x100.  Tsubaki, quite possibly the best and most versatile of the Weapons, is pretty much wasted on him.  I'm 10 episodes in, though, and he's starting to approach "tolerable".

I hate Blackstar too.  I've only read the manga but I can't stand him.  One of my favorite parts was when Kid kicked the **** out of him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2011, 04:56:30 AM
I'm trying to somehow get through the pilot for the American version of "Being Human", just for something different to watch.  Unfortunately, the show is pretty bad.  The Werewolf is incredibly whiny, the vampire is a Twilight reject sans glitter sparkles (and it frustrated me that this "vampire" has a normal life and job during the day in full sunlight, which makes no sense), and the ghost is just annoying.  Maybe I was just expecting a more refined or interesting show than it is (an angsty drama for the 'tween" demographic), but I just do not like this show so far.  I haven't seen the UK version to compare, though I can't imagine it being any worse than "Siffy's" version.

Give it a few more episodes. It gets better.
Of course this show would be alot better if it wasn't on SyFy and had been on FX or even premium cable, but it does get better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2011, 12:08:52 AM
About Campbell on Mad Men

I just placed what the way he talks reminds me of. He sounds like Jon Lovits.
All of his lines are delivered like a slightly toned down Jon Lovits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: RagnaBlade on March 09, 2011, 06:27:32 PM
Re-watching The West Wing. 14.5/10. Holy **** it's good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2011, 06:44:15 PM
Ah! you just reminded me of the other show I wanted to get around to watching.

The West Wing +added to my TV Queue
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 09, 2011, 07:51:37 PM
I absolutely love The West Wing. If I didn't have so many things I wanted to watch that I haven't seen before, I'd love to go back and watch that again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: RagnaBlade on March 10, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
It's so amazing. It's one of those shows that everyone should watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 14, 2011, 11:09:19 PM
*sigh*

Well, I finally got around to finishing my two sets of Xam'd: Lost Memories, and I should have known better than to start watching this show.  Eureka Seven was the anime that proved to me that despite their animation prowess, Studio Bones was perfectly capable of producing boring crap (no, I haven't seen Wolf's Rain, but I hear that was pretty terrible as well).  Fast forward through a few Fullmetal Alchemist series, and here is Bones once again with a show that bears an incredible visual similarity to Eureka Seven, and it sucks as well...and in half the time (E7 was a 2-season series, Xam'd is just one).  Man, where to begin with this show...

Actually, the show starts out fairly decently, also like E7, with a seemingly terrorist attack followed by the main character being granted this mysterious power/curse of Xam'd.  The first dozen or so episodes are pretty decent (even if there are some very nonsensical plot twists with some of the secondary characters), focusing mainly on Akiyuki learning how to deal with this power and learn to live with this strange cast of airborn postal workers.  Then suddenly the series decides it's going to spend 8 or so episodes doing absolutely NOTHING.  Akiyuki gets hit with an affliction that completely removes him as an active character in the story as he just wanders around for the rest of the show.  Then, 5 episodes before the end, the show suddenly (kind of) decides what it wants to be about and dumps every single plot thread and character outside of the main three and just collides into a very typically lame Japanese ending.  And if you've seen the show, I hope you understood what the ^&&*@ was going on with the story and world, because I couldn't tell you after watching 26 episodes of this crap.  This show just had no fracking idea what it wanted to be, so we have a war that's going on for...some reason we're never told; a race of spiritual people persecuted because...of some reason we're never told; we have a ship of postal workers who are important because...of some reason we're never told; we have all this business with creating Xam'ds and "The Quickening" (insert obligatory Highlander joke here) and "The Emperor" that...is never really explained and wrapped-up in a half-assed manner.  At least Eureka Seven, as spectacularly dull as that show got, had the kindness to let the audience in on what is going on for most of the series.

This is one of the worst anime series I have seen in quite some time, despite having a fairly decent opening.  Watching it reminds me of partly why I went on a multi-year hiatus from anime a while back: no respect for how to tell a proper story and no sense of pacing, just filling the void with mindless dialogue.  Bleh, I'm going to have to watch Full Metal Panic or something now to remind myself that the artform isn't beyond redemption.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 14, 2011, 11:39:58 PM
I like all the latest love for Breaking Bad... 1,100+ post later and about a year and a half later. Really... go back and read the first post. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 14, 2011, 11:48:06 PM
I absolutely love The West Wing. If I didn't have so many things I wanted to watch that I haven't seen before, I'd love to go back and watch that again.

Ditto.  I'm not a big fan of the show's left-slanted political view (and because of this didn't start watching the show until it started releasing on DVD, and now I have the whole series on DVD), but the show does a good job of feeling fairly inclusive so you can enjoy it regardless of your political affiliation.  Plus, the dialogue is very well-written and frequently hilarious.  Pity the show starts going downhill in the last few seasons.  If it weren't for the fact that I have so much stuff to watch and play, I'd gladly rewatch that series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 15, 2011, 09:08:36 AM
@broodwars

You missed something significant in Xam'd. All of your 'for some reason we're never told' moments were actually explained. Especially the reason for the war, why the postal people were important, and why the spiritual were being persecuted.

I'll give you that it got boring in the middle though, there's no denying that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 15, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
@broodwars

You missed something significant in Xam'd. All of your 'for some reason we're never told' moments were actually explained. Especially the reason for the war, why the postal people were important, and why the spiritual were being persecuted.

I'll give you that it got boring in the middle though, there's no denying that.

Hmm...maybe that stuff was something revealed in one of the dozens of dialogue sequences in the show (especially towards the end) where the dialogue is so low that the music actually drowns it out (at least in the dub version).  In any case, considering that I watched almost the whole series with my best friend, and neither of us as of episode 20 (the last episode we both watched) could figure out any of those things, I still say the show does a pretty poor job of conveying that information.  I would rewatch the series to see if that info's really there, but to be honest I've moved on now and no longer care.

Anyone see the new Gibli Wizard of Earthsea movie ("Tales of Earthsea")?  I noticed it was somehow released last week with pretty much no fanfare and Best Buy at least isn't carrying it.  I kind of liked the original book so I have some interest in it, though to be honest I have a bad feeling I'll be incredibly annoyed by Gibli's likely inclusion of their usual monotonous pro-environment, anti-man additions (which creep up in pretty much anything related to miyazaki).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 17, 2011, 06:43:20 AM
After watching the previous two episodes of Stargate Universe.... seriously. Damn. That show has some of the best CGI ever seen on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Toruresu on March 19, 2011, 12:09:42 AM
After watching the previous two episodes of Stargate Universe.... seriously. Damn. That show has some of the best CGI ever seen on television.
I was starting to like SGU too. I've been a fan of the franchise for a while, and just when SGU finds its groove, it gets canceled :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 19, 2011, 12:34:31 AM
SGU never had to find it's mojo, it had it back in episode one. I am only at the end of season one, but there has been no word as to whether they are going to continue showing the rest of the series here, so I might have to download to see it. Sify logo and all.

I rather like how they are fighting for survival instead of fighting some external enemy most of the time. I also like how you can't really like any of the characters too much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2011, 04:46:37 AM
Mad Men s2 & s3

I'm into it, my girl is into it, but if I wasn't waiting for her to watch episodes, then I would have finished the entire series already. It's good drama and the the school teacher in s3 is Fiiiiine [/Pablo Francisco]. Just started s4 about 2 hrs ago. Will report back when its all wrapped up.


Luther

BBC UK show about a really smart detective with lots of emotion baggage and a weird relationship with a known criminal that was just too smart for him to bust. She got away with the crime and rubs it in his face all day everyday and he swears he's gonna take her down, but somewhere in their game of cat and mouse, there is a weird friendship. Starring Idris Elba, who played Stringer Bell on The Wire, and so far it's pretty good. 1st season is only 6 episodes long and I'm almost done with it, but i can definitely see myself tuning in for season 2, whenever that is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 19, 2011, 02:49:00 PM
I just finished watching all of Seinfeld in order. I've always been a fan of the show, but I've never watched it that way before. It really adds something to it that you don't get from catching a rerun here or there. I didn't realize how much continuity the show had before this. I would argue that George Costanza is one of the best characters ever on television.

Also, if you're not watching Archer on FX, you need to rectify that. It was pretty good in the first season, but the second season has been amazing so far. It's got impeccable writing and a fantastic voice cast, and I'd argue it's easily the best comedy on television right now after Parks & Rec and Community.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on March 21, 2011, 10:04:11 AM
So I just finished watching Season 2 and (what there is of) Season 3 of Parks & Recreation. Why didn't anyone tell me this show got substantially better after Season 1? I guess I should have had more faith, I mean The US Office only got good in Season 2. Steve Carell actually created more of a character in Michael Scott instead of trying (and failing) to copy David Brent. The same thing basically happening with Leslie Knope basically just being a female Michael Scott in Season 1. Other things that improved where Andy became less annoying and is now one of the best characters in the show. Ron Swanson just became unstoppable. Everything that guy does is genius. Storylines improved (mainly because they had more time to develop them), the townfolk got more backstory (it's almost developing into a Simpsons style universe) and Aubrey Plaza is still (hot) in it.

I just feel like it's a feelgood comedy, there's no cringe-worthy moments and the humour insn't snarky or mean in any way (except to Jerry).

Fucking top stuff/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: the_dan_x on March 21, 2011, 10:47:58 AM
Recently, I've been watching Sherlock from the UK. If you guys haven't seen it, it's basically Sherlock Holmes, but in present day London. As far as I know, there is only one season and three episodes, but each episode is an hour and a half long. Pretty awesome stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 21, 2011, 11:10:34 AM
So I just finished watching Season 2 and (what there is of) Season 3 of Parks & Recreation. Why didn't anyone tell me this show got substantially better after Season 1?

If you listened to NWR Newscast you'd have known that months ago! (Also I'm pretty sure people have said that on this thread.)

But yeah, great stuff. Andy and April are just lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 21, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Last night on HBO, was the series finale of Big Love, which by far away was the most unique family drama on television.

If you don't know the series was about Bill Hendrickson, a wealthy polygamist Mormon, continually trying to better himself and his family. One of the ways he tries to make things better for his family is bringing polygamy into the open so they don't have to hide. He tries this many times in many ways with different results each time over the seasons, all the while trying to keep his family from breaking apart from the outside influence of other polygamist groups and family ties and questions of faith and morality from his three wives.

What made this show great, beyond its large, but never overwhelming, cast and interweaving story arcs, was the actors. From the first show to the last, their performances never broke, or felt forced. That also has to do with the excellent writing though, because the characters never really did any thing out of character. There were surprises to be sure, but they all were within the character's personality and history.

This was a great show, and it was very religous at points, but it was always religious for a reason relating to the character development or story advancement.

This was one of my favorite shows on television, but I hated its opening theme, and there were like 2 or 3 dull episodes in its 5 seasons. The last season also felt a little rushed, and I'm not sure yet if I liked the ending. All in all, I rate Big Love a 9.2/10

It will be missed.

"It's good to have an open mind, but not so open that your brains fall out." - Nicki, my favorite character, because of her many flaws.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 22, 2011, 10:47:59 AM
Recently, I've been watching Sherlock from the UK. If you guys haven't seen it, it's basically Sherlock Holmes, but in present day London. As far as I know, there is only one season and three episodes, but each episode is an hour and a half long. Pretty awesome stuff.

It's made by the same exec producer who is heading up Doctor Who (hence why they are both stuffed full of awesome). Season 1 is only 3 episodes but it was such a smash hit over here (~10 million watched all three episodes) it got renewed for another 3 in Autumn/Fall 2011.


The reason why it only got another 3 episodes was because the same exec producer is busy nearly all-year-around with 14 episodes of Doctor Who and hence cant squeeze anymore out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2011, 07:25:11 PM
Justified Season 2 episodes one and two on Hulu. 3.75 Stars

You should be watching this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2011, 10:28:13 PM
Luther (on BBC UK) - 4/5

What a way to end a 6 episode 1st season run. **** these short UK seasons. If they are gonna have seasons this short, then they need to have 2 of them a year. 1 in the spring and 1 in the fall or something. More like the USA & SyFy 1/2 season that work pretty well on Eureka, Pysch & Burn Notice. They really leave you on a cliffhanger with a whole year before you get a measly 6 more episodes. How do you Brits do it? That's gotta be torture for your favorite shows... but it does keep everything short and sweet, straight to the point and no time for filler, but the wait... the f'n wait.

Needless to say (because I've basically just said it) i await a 2nd season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 23, 2011, 05:17:42 AM
**** these short UK seasons.

To compensate we simply have more quantities of shows rather than fewer longer ones.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 23, 2011, 02:40:21 PM
I gave Justified a chance until the episode where he touched the hood of a car that was sitting in the middle of a desert and he said 'it's still warm'. Yeah... I bet it was really hot as a matter of fact.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 23, 2011, 02:45:59 PM
I think I saw the first 2 episodes of that one when it first aired. Didn't capture my interest. I think I will wait until it's cancelled next season, fans cry that it was unjustified & critics tell me it was much better than rating showed and then I'll play catch up.... :evil grin:

j/k, I might check it out again, but I think The Sopranos is next on my series catch-up list now that I'm almost done with Mad Men.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 23, 2011, 09:46:28 PM
Lost: Season 1 on Netflix Instant: I liked it, I genuinely liked it. There's definitely a lot of intrigue, and I think so far the show has been "answering questions" at a good pace. (I mean, how would you explain polar bears on tropical islands, anyway?) The characters are mostly likeable, Kate being the notable exception (though Jack is starting to get on my nerves). I think the whole "The island is soooo mysterious and powerful" angle is getting a bit annoying, but I'm willing to work with the show on that one.

The one thing that bothers me is that I don't think the show can maintain this level of quality for 6 seasons, not when they're this long. I didn't watch the show when it aired originally, but I was aware of all the attention it was getting. I wanted to watch it, but I thought seeing it all online all at once would be best.

We'll see how my interest holds up for season 2!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 23, 2011, 09:57:31 PM
I've never watched Lost, and have come to the conclusion, based on reactions people had to it, that it's not worth it to me to attempt to do so, despite it being on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 24, 2011, 08:52:49 AM
Lost is brilliant and totally worth watching. Season 1 is great but season 4 (and season 5, arguably) are just truly brilliant. If you can make it through the relative lull of season 3 (which ends amazingly, by the way), you will find it well worth the effort I think.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 24, 2011, 10:49:18 AM
Oh Christ, the last episode(Introduction to Statistics (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1528909/)) of Community had me crying from laughter and we are still in season 1. Pierce (Chevy Chase (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000331/) ) really gets to shine this episode. This quite effectively sums up the insanity that is Community
Quote
Professor Michelle Slater (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0196913/) : Are you like a court appointed guardian to these people?
Jeff Winger (http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0164636/) : No, uhmm, they are my classmates.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on March 24, 2011, 01:34:33 PM
I've never watched Lost, and have come to the conclusion, based on reactions people had to it, that it's not worth it to me to attempt to do so, despite it being on Netflix.

Lost exists to make dumb people feel smart. It's convoluted to the point of being ridiculous. Of course, it stands to reason that anything that got as much attention as it did during it's run is going to be lackluster one way or another.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
Save yourself. I realized it too late and will never watch the final season of Lost, but you are still very early into it. You can still save yourself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 24, 2011, 02:09:45 PM
I've never watched Lost, and have come to the conclusion, based on reactions people had to it, that it's not worth it to me to attempt to do so, despite it being on Netflix.

Lost exists to make dumb people feel smart. It's convoluted to the point of being ridiculous. Of course, it stands to reason that anything that got as much attention as it did during it's run is going to be lackluster one way or another.

I think the world must be coming to an end: we actually agree on something.   :Q   Lost is one of the most over-rated, badly written shows I've ever seen.  The show has plenty of good moments and twists, but the show just can't string them together well and before too long the show's formula really drags.  It's a whole lot of build-up without any good pay-off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 24, 2011, 02:11:25 PM
EYEROLL.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2011, 02:19:55 PM
It's funny. My telecom AI loved this show and couldn't help but talk about it during our discussions. And I couldn't help making fun of him for it.

He rated it above Soprano's. Now I haven't seen lost, save for a few minutes, but I've seen quite a bit of the Soprano's and that comment blew my mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on March 24, 2011, 04:23:30 PM
I've never watched Lost, and have come to the conclusion, based on reactions people had to it, that it's not worth it to me to attempt to do so, despite it being on Netflix.

Lost exists to make dumb people feel smart. It's convoluted to the point of being ridiculous. Of course, it stands to reason that anything that got as much attention as it did during it's run is going to be lackluster one way or another.

I think the world must be coming to an end: we actually agree on something.   :Q

There's more where that came from. You never want to just talk anymore though.

As I recall, we both like romantic walks on the beach... ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2011, 04:30:55 PM
I've never watched Lost, and have come to the conclusion, based on reactions people had to it, that it's not worth it to me to attempt to do so, despite it being on Netflix.

Lost exists to make dumb people feel smart. It's convoluted to the point of being ridiculous. Of course, it stands to reason that anything that got as much attention as it did during it's run is going to be lackluster one way or another.

I think the world must be coming to an end: we actually agree on something.   :Q

There's more where that came from. You never want to just talk anymore though.

As I recall, we both like romantic walks on the beach... ;)

OMG!!! THIS WHOLE TIME YOU 2 HAVE JUST BEEN FLIRTING WITH EACH OTHER!!!???
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 24, 2011, 06:56:29 PM
Actually, that would explain a lot...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 24, 2011, 11:17:47 PM
Yeah it would, because Lost was great and stupid people couldn't figure it out. Not saying you guys are stupid, but how does confusing a stupid person make them feel smart?

I was a Lost hater (because like which ever of the lovers mentioned, I thought its popularity meant I wouldn't like it) until I was at a friend's house and too 'lazy' to tell him to change the channel. I don't even remember what episode it was (I would if I saw it again) but it blew my mind, and I was hooked. The show was nothing like I thought it was, and absolutely incredible. Though I will say that my friends who watched the show missed some intricacies and I missed some as well, so that was always great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 25, 2011, 03:56:30 PM
NOOZ!

Both Futurama AND Fringe has been renewed :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2011, 03:59:29 PM
Fringe made the cut!?

That's good, I've been meaning to play catch up on that series, restarting from the very first episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on March 25, 2011, 10:35:01 PM
Yeah it would, because Lost was great and stupid people couldn't figure it out. Not saying you guys are stupid, but how does confusing a stupid person make them feel smart?

I was a Lost hater (because like which ever of the lovers mentioned, I thought its popularity meant I wouldn't like it) until I was at a friend's house and too 'lazy' to tell him to change the channel. I don't even remember what episode it was (I would if I saw it again) but it blew my mind, and I was hooked. The show was nothing like I thought it was, and absolutely incredible. Though I will say that my friends who watched the show missed some intricacies and I missed some as well, so that was always great.

I really enjoyed Lost as well.  There aren't enough serials out there and all the attempts to recapture the magic of Lost have all fallen flat on their face (Flashforward and The Event).  I really wanted to like these other shows because having series long or season long stories just makes them much more rewarding and gives the characters and events time to really develop.  I gave Heroes a shot but it turned horrible after the first season (it was made to be one season originally) and I tried Prison Break but it was a later season and the all the main characters were trying to break out of a second prison they purposely entered in Mexico or something. :Q It made me lose all interest.  When Prison Break was airing it was huge here in China too.  The guy who played Michael Scoffield is still on all kinds of billboards.

I think a lot of the non-popularity based hate for Lost comes from the fact that everyone in the tail end was killed because of DUI's and real life circumstances.  It made quite a few things change and made one of the seasons weaker than the others.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 25, 2011, 10:42:35 PM
I didn't like Flash Forward or The Event. I felt both shows were trying way too hard, especially The Event. Every week witht he latter was a cock tease and then a poor attempt at hype because no matter what happened, it wasn't "The Event." I couldn't even watch it long enough to care if anyone actually said what the event was or if it even happened. My friends liked Flash Forward, but I couldn't get in to it. It started off feeling pretentious and didn't stop feeling that way. Twists in the plot seemed to hurt the overall story than enhance it.

In any case, I'm gonna stick it out with Lost. I have my reservations and doubts, but I had those before and now I'm pretty hooked in to the story. I'll keep posting my thoughts on each season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 25, 2011, 10:48:06 PM
Yeah it would, because Lost was great and stupid people couldn't figure it out. Not saying you guys are stupid, but how does confusing a stupid person make them feel smart?

I was a Lost hater (because like which ever of the lovers mentioned, I thought its popularity meant I wouldn't like it) until I was at a friend's house and too 'lazy' to tell him to change the channel. I don't even remember what episode it was (I would if I saw it again) but it blew my mind, and I was hooked. The show was nothing like I thought it was, and absolutely incredible. Though I will say that my friends who watched the show missed some intricacies and I missed some as well, so that was always great.

I really enjoyed Lost as well.  There aren't enough serials out there and all the attempts to recapture the magic of Lost have all fallen flat on their face (Flashforward and The Event).  I really wanted to like these other shows because having series long or season long stories just makes them much more rewarding and gives the characters and events time to really develop.  I gave Heroes a shot but it turned horrible after the first season (it was made to be one season originally) and I tried Prison Break but it was a later season and the all the main characters were trying to break out of a second prison they purposely entered in Mexico or something. :Q It made me lose all interest.  When Prison Break was airing it was huge here in China too.  The guy who played Michael Scoffield is still on all kinds of billboards.

I think a lot of the non-popularity based hate for Lost comes from the fact that everyone in the tail end was killed because of DUI's and real life circumstances.  It made quite a few things change and made one of the seasons weaker than the others.

You really need to watch more cable shows. Serialized shows are the norm there, and there are a lot of really good ones.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on March 25, 2011, 11:23:43 PM
I didn't like Flash Forward or The Event. I felt both shows were trying way too hard, especially The Event. Every week witht he latter was a cock tease and then a poor attempt at hype because no matter what happened, it wasn't "The Event." I couldn't even watch it long enough to care if anyone actually said what the event was or if it even happened. My friends liked Flash Forward, but I couldn't get in to it. It started off feeling pretentious and didn't stop feeling that way. Twists in the plot seemed to hurt the overall story than enhance it.

In any case, I'm gonna stick it out with Lost. I have my reservations and doubts, but I had those before and now I'm pretty hooked in to the story. I'll keep posting my thoughts on each season.

I didn't like those shows either and dropped both of them.  After Lost I wanted to watch another show but they didn't cut it, not at all.
I suggest you stick it out with Lost, its worth it.

Can you recommend some serials insanolord?  I would prefer ones that have a continuous story with few "monster/case of the week" type episodes but its okay if the overall story is good.  Ones that I have recently watched are Breaking Bad, Walking Dead, True Blood, and Rome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 25, 2011, 11:39:39 PM
Breaking Bad and The Walking Dead are the two big ones that are on right now, but I'm also liking Boardwalk Empire. It's a little slow to get going but it's a fascinating premise (alcohol bootleggers during prohibition) and Steve Buscemi's great in anything.

Going into the back catalog, if you haven't watched The Wire yet, that's what you should start with. I've only finished three of the five seasons, but I'm already comfortable calling it without a doubt the best police drama I've ever seen. Each season follows one major case where the characters try to take down a drug kingpin or organized crime leader. No show I've seen has done nearly at well at crafting deep, complex characters, all in shades of gray, and manages to take a somewhat controversial stand about the state of crime in this country without forcing it on you.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on March 26, 2011, 12:12:19 AM
Boardwalk Empire sounds interesting.  I've seen some things about it but nothing really led me to believe it was about bootleggers which seems pretty cool.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2011, 12:15:58 AM
Fringe is great. It's melted cheese on a block of Cheese. Last episode I saw had a goofy 1980's opening (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjua7n0n2SM).

Never bothered with Flash Forward and The Event. You could tell the entire thing was a cock tease by committee. Both were focus on this one thing and they had to string you along. If this was fishing, even the fish would be pissed off at how poor the bait was.

Prison Break is retarded. Granted season one worked, but it was always going to be a one season show. I groaned as each episode had them breaking out or into something or get thrown into another prison for a season. Then they raised the stakes from bank robbery to Presidential BS watchamathingy.

Lost was never a good show. Especially when you could guess(Later confirmed) that the writers had no fucking idea what they were doing. Problems and mysteries were being thrown into the show with no intention or ability to ever resolve. Nothing good comes from watching Lost.

No Ordinary Family working nicely. It's not sliced bread, but it's kicking the corpse that was Heros at it's peak, mocking it with it's coherency. The daughter is really starting to piss me off though and I wonder if they are taking cues from Family guy making her a Meg. Nice to look at, but has a more repulsive personality than villians your suppose to hate/dislike.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 26, 2011, 12:53:53 AM
Indeed, Lost is such a writing catastrophe.  The writers spend the first 3-4 seasons just throwing in layers of "mysteries" without any idea how they planned on "explaining" them, padded by constant flashbacks to potentially more interesting shows.  Naturally, in the last season the writers suddenly realized the reckoning had come and they actually had to start explaining the crap they had haphazardly thrown in, and as expected what few things they did explain weren't the least bit satisfactory.  In fact, the writing is so shoddy that the writers and their fans had to start claiming that the show was about "the journey" and "the characters", and that it was "never about the mysteries".  Well, I call B.S. on that when the show leaned on them so heavily in the earlier seasons and used those "mysteries" to drag the show along.  Maybe I could buy that excuse if the characters were compelling and I actually cared about their fate, but they weren't and I don't (outside maybe a couple like Hurly, Jin, and Sun).  And that ending...wow, what a cop-out.  When your ending can basically be summed up by THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrcF7dYADsw) and THIS (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/5-second-movies/23145-lost-in-5-seconds) (spoilers, naturally), that's pitiful.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2011, 03:17:05 AM
Watch The Shield


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 26, 2011, 10:14:02 AM
@oohhboy, broodwars

A lot of shows and serial books are written with an overarching story and then as they progress new things are introduced without any particular finality so that as the series is ending they have meat to fill the bare bones of it. The original mysteries of Lost were used to create the atmosphere of the island. At first, it didn't matter so much who 'the others' were, why there was polar bear, what the black smoke was, the where Dharma Initiative came from and went to, or how the island worked and brought the plane down, all that mattered was that the island was mysterious and a bunch of strangers were trapped on it.

What I believe did happen was that the end approached the writers too quickly, and they had more filler than they had time for. And any story's ending can be explained differently than the one chosen by its creators.


Flashforward would have been better if it stuck to the books it was based off of because the Flashforward event in the book actually had the people jump further into the future (I forget how long exactly, but the main character saw himself as old man with a bad back and a different wife). As you can imagine was a lot more disconcerting because people freaked out about their old age, had no idea when they were going to die, and could both more readily and less accurately predict the stock market and other things because of the large gap. It would have also helped saved the show from the pettiness that brought it down.

I was going to watch Prison Break but I found out that it was renewed for a second season before I started, and I lost interest because I thought it was just going to be a mini-series. Here's something I don't understand though, when there's a hot chick on a show and the show is stupid, it fails, but when it's a 'hot' guy, the show will be as successful as he stays relevant.

I still like No Ordinary Family, but the villains are bringing it down a little imho.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
Show that everyone should add to your must watch list:
The Wire
The Shield
Supernatural
Spartacus
Breaking Bad
Boardwalk Empire
Mad Men

Those are all hour long shows that I would recommend and have reviewed somewhere in this thread.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 26, 2011, 01:43:25 PM
The reason why The Event, Flashforward and Stargate Universe all failed: They all came after Lost.

No show can "out-Lost" Lost now. That door is closed. I have a friend who watched Lost religiously but i can't even get him to watch the pilot of SGU, even with the description "Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship", or Doctor Who with the description "a 900 year old time travelling alien who flies around in his spaceship phone box".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2011, 03:25:10 PM
How does that explain people who didn't watch Lost or watched some of it, causing said people to scream "This is BS"?.

The Event, Flash Forward had literally the entire show riding on what happened in the pilot. If you didn't take the bait and it was terrible bait, nothing else mattered. Given how much Astro turfing was going on with those two shows, the endless ADs, online adverts, overblown trailers, you could taste the desperation. Those shows were doomed, just like V was.

I think the problem with SGU was mostly to do with the audience and bad timing. Fans have had over a decade of continuous Stargate and Atlantis showed that it needed to rest. To avoid that problem they shifted the tone of the series, alienating their core audience, leaving the show with no natural base to jump off on. Being Stargate, not Lost, there is almost, always a payoff, so the comparisons between them are poor at best.

Lost had 6 bloody seasons to come up with an ending, which they failed. Dollhouse, canned mid season 2 managed to come up with an abrupt, yet workable ending. BSG FUBARed their ending, they even reveled they had no bloody idea what they were doing last season. Lost's writers incompetence far better and a far more simple explanation than oh ****, we need an ending. Writing for Lost would go something like this - Is it mysterious? If YES, shoot it! If NO, GOTO 10. Nowhere in there did they ever consider how they would answer their own problems. The only thing Lost convincingly achieved was shooting on a tropical island without leaving the sound stage. Quite frankly one Lost is one Lost too many, I hope a show like this never shows up ever again.

The reason why The Event, Flashforward and Stargate Universe all failed: They all came after Lost.

No show can "out-Lost" Lost now. That door is closed. I have a friend who watched Lost religiously but i can't even get him to watch the pilot of SGU, even with the description "Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship", or Doctor Who with the description "a 900 year old time travelling alien who flies around in his spaceship phone box".

Who the hell came up with Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship? Labeling anything Grey's is a terrible thing to do. I mean, GREY'S?!.

Doctor Who has far more history and came well before Lost to be "out lost" if there ever a horrible thing to achieve.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on March 26, 2011, 05:10:21 PM
Lost had 6 bloody seasons to come up with an ending, which they failed. Dollhouse, canned mid season 2 managed to come up with an abrupt, yet workable ending.

The fact that you actually watched the Dollhouse series finale is worrisome to me... lol (that was a joke)


The Event, Flash Forward had literally the entire show riding on what happened in the pilot. If you didn't take the bait and it was terrible bait, nothing else mattered.

Is it too much to ask that people follow a story from its beginning? Though I will say that the story progression in The Event was terrible and it was too focused on its name, and I already stated my view of Flashforward, but if you're going to grade something, it has to be from its beginning to end. I'm not saying you didn't watch it, but I don't agree with your point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 26, 2011, 05:21:00 PM
Flash Forward's plot was too clever for them to make into a workable plot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 26, 2011, 07:10:19 PM
How does that explain people who didn't watch Lost or watched some of it, causing said people to scream "This is BS"?.

The Event, Flash Forward had literally the entire show riding on what happened in the pilot. If you didn't take the bait and it was terrible bait, nothing else mattered. Given how much Astro turfing was going on with those two shows, the endless ADs, online adverts, overblown trailers, you could taste the desperation. Those shows were doomed, just like V was.

I think the problem with SGU was mostly to do with the audience and bad timing. Fans have had over a decade of continuous Stargate and Atlantis showed that it needed to rest. To avoid that problem they shifted the tone of the series, alienating their core audience, leaving the show with no natural base to jump off on. Being Stargate, not Lost, there is almost, always a payoff, so the comparisons between them are poor at best.

Lost had 6 bloody seasons to come up with an ending, which they failed. Dollhouse, canned mid season 2 managed to come up with an abrupt, yet workable ending. BSG FUBARed their ending, they even reveled they had no bloody idea what they were doing last season. Lost's writers incompetence far better and a far more simple explanation than oh ****, we need an ending. Writing for Lost would go something like this - Is it mysterious? If YES, shoot it! If NO, GOTO 10. Nowhere in there did they ever consider how they would answer their own problems. The only thing Lost convincingly achieved was shooting on a tropical island without leaving the sound stage. Quite frankly one Lost is one Lost too many, I hope a show like this never shows up ever again.

The reason why The Event, Flashforward and Stargate Universe all failed: They all came after Lost.

No show can "out-Lost" Lost now. That door is closed. I have a friend who watched Lost religiously but i can't even get him to watch the pilot of SGU, even with the description "Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship", or Doctor Who with the description "a 900 year old time travelling alien who flies around in his spaceship phone box".

Who the hell came up with Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship? Labeling anything Grey's is a terrible thing to do. I mean, GREY'S?!.

Doctor Who has far more history and came well before Lost to be "out lost" if there ever a horrible thing to achieve.

SG1 and SGA was based on the "issue of the week" format with a light overlying arc sprinkled throughout but there was no overrunning arc. SGU switched that to a series arc about Destiny travelling to a specific destination. The exec producers have said that if the show got to Season 5 that the reason why the ship was sent there would be dealt with and would conclude the series there.. That shift was pretty dramatic, and the first 10 episodes was spent setting up the drama, hence why i called it Grey's Anatomy on a spaceship. Put the two together, and combined with 15 seasons of SG1 and SGA everyone just gave up in droves. I called it Grey's Anatomy on a Spaceship because he likes that show and i hoped it would hook him in. Unsurprisingly it didnt.

Doctor Who has 40+ years of history but since the 2005 reboot its generally season arcs so it's not quite the same as Lost in that vein.

Speaking of Lost on a sound stage: it wasn't. Everything except any indoor non-America shots was done in Hawaii and around there. The shots in London were sound stages and CGI. Things like The Exit was on-location.

For those who watched Flash Forward, there was three key eps about the intentions of that show. The first was the pilot , the second was when there was a statement about multiple blackouts (hence indicating season arcs, this being after the production team got a refresh) and the third was when they proclaimed in-show about the endgame in December 2015. As soon as i saw that i thought "Are they seriously going to attempt stretching this for SIX SEASONS?"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 26, 2011, 11:23:58 PM
The only thing Lost convincingly achieved was shooting on a tropical island without leaving the sound stage.

Yikes - really hard to take seriously the opinion of someone who gets something so basic wrong.

I'll never understand how someone could so strongly hate a show that they watched for hundreds and hundreds of hours. How could you sit through so much material that you don't enjoy?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2011, 11:44:41 PM
I didn't, that's why I got it wrong.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 26, 2011, 11:53:07 PM
Yeah, that last remark is more aimed at broodwars, who seems to have seen the whole series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 27, 2011, 12:17:08 AM
Battlestar Galactica when on for 74 episodes, only to FUBAR the last season and the critical ending. There was some serious lack of payoff going on. Not only that, last season effectively rendered the first 3 seasons a pretty pointless exercise. Plan? WE HAVE NO PLAN.

So yeah, it would be more than possible for someone to have wach an entire series and come out bitter. It effectively happened to most of BSG's fan base.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 27, 2011, 12:37:40 AM
Yeah, that last remark is more aimed at broodwars, who seems to have seen the whole series.

I watched the whole thing out of morbid curiosity, because surely there had to be some payoff for 6 seasons of B.S.  Also, at the time the entire office was watching the show, and when the entire floor is talking about "last night's episode", it helps to actually have seen it.  Besides, there wasn't much else on TV I was interested in watching outside the occasional animated series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2011, 02:06:23 AM
Murdoch's Mysteries It's Canadian, and I still like it. Scientific crime investigation sat in 1890's Toronto. Three Poutines
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on March 27, 2011, 10:15:22 PM
Supernatural

What's the verdict on the new season of Supernatural?  I stopped watching last season since it was obvious that it was supposed to end.  When Sam showed up again at the end, I and the other people who watched just said "what?"  I looked online and lo and behold the creator left with that being his finale while it was renewed for another season and someone else would take the helm.  Will the new season leave a bad taste in my mouth because it's techinically supposed to be over?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
So far? No, it's actually been pretty good and getting more interesting as they get they get deeper into the plot of what's really happening.

I think next season will be the last one though. This season looks to have a 2 season story arch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kytim89 on March 28, 2011, 01:41:07 AM
I have been watching the old Law and Order series and actually like it. The DVD bundles are little expensive, so I have been relegated to watching reruns, which happen to be the same episodes in some cases. I have been thinking about ditching cable and getting Netflix, so would I be able to watch any of the Law and Order shows that I want?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 28, 2011, 06:00:19 AM
Smallville S9.  AWESOME!!!!!

Us Aussies have been shafted when it comes to Smallville.  2 different networks have tried airing it but I guess noone watches it here and it gets chopped. They have just started showing it again for the 3rd time, but lately it has been showing at stupid midnight slots so it will probably go the same way.  They just finished showing season 8 here. 

I rented out season 9, and WOW.  I couldn't stop watching it.  I don't know if this is the general consensus, but I loved it.  Especially THAT punch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fARWBL6x5BY)   (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fARWBL6x5BY)

I am once again feeling that rage i get when we get presented with the abominations that are cliffhangers. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 28, 2011, 06:41:55 AM
"KNEEL BEFORE ZOD!"

I never got into Smallville until they left Smallville. It was too much of a teen drama to be enjoyable. Now in Metropolis, it's a much better show especially since they have connected it to much much larger world. I think NZ is a season ahead of you right now, but still has it in a near midnight slot, not that it matter to DVRs. There is a great cameo later and had me grinning like a fool over Lois and Clake.

This is about as close to a living being a TV show can be. It has learned, evolved, grown into to something that just gets better. Is it wrong that I like Tess more than Lois?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on March 28, 2011, 08:56:43 AM
I have been watching the old Law and Order series and actually like it. The DVD bundles are little expensive, so I have been relegated to watching reruns, which happen to be the same episodes in some cases. I have been thinking about ditching cable and getting Netflix, so would I be able to watch any of the Law and Order shows that I want?

They have several Law and Order seasons available on DVD, but not all of them. None of them are available for instant viewing. If you like SVU, pretty much all of those are available on instant and DVD though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2011, 11:12:29 AM
Smallville S9.  AWESOME!!!!!

Smallville is a guilty pleasure of mine.
S10 (The Final season) is even better than 9 so far.

s1-4 was good
s5-7 was horrible
s8-10 is increasingly better
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2011, 12:44:09 PM
I all caught up on Mad Men and I gotta say this show really draws you in. It's a shame the next season hasn't even started production yet.

I also watched the first few episodes of The West Wing;
This is a very, and I mean very busy show. Constant dialogue. I mean literally non-stop. conversations inter-weave and people are cutting each other off, and i feel like if I stop paying attention for a little bit I might lose whats even going on. This is a very high level, hectic and fast paced show with lots of political talk, so if you're too slow to keep up, you probably won't watch past the 1st episode. So far I like it, but I'm only 4 episodes in. The good thing is that there is a fair amount of humor, but like I said, if you weren't paying close attention, you might miss a lot of it.

I also watched the 1st episode of The Sopranos;
I can already tell that I am gonna like this show. That is all I have to say about it after only 1 episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2011, 03:23:14 PM
I'm triple posting now, but these are 3 completely unrelated post.

Can we put together a list of all the new shows from the 2010-2011 season and just see what was cancelled, what was worth watching, what needs to die and what got a second season.

I can start it off here:
Hellcats
Nikita
Raising Hope - (renewed, entertaining show, sometimes hilarious)
Outsourced
Mr. Sunshine
Shameless - (getting a 2nd season, a good watch)
Being Human - (worth a watch, remake of a UK show)
Hawaii 5-0
Lonestar - (Cancelled)
The Event
Running Wilde (Cancelled
My Generation
No Ordinary Family - (Cancelled)
The Walking Dead - (renewed)
Undercovers - (Cancelled)
The Good Guys - (Cancelled)
Better With You - (I hope it's cancelled)
Perfect Couples - (Cancelled)
Skins - (remake of a UK show)
The Cape - (Cancelled)
The Chicago Code
Harry's Law
Louie
Treme
Camelot
Off the Map
The Whole Truth - (Cancelled)
Body of Proof
S#!t my Dad Says
Mike & Molly
Bob's Burger
Traffic Light
Breaking In

Anybody else know anymore and/or have anything to say on them?
Know their statuses?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 28, 2011, 03:49:09 PM
Louie is awesome. Definitely worth a look for anyone looking for a different kind of comedy from the normal sitcoms and Parks n Recs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 28, 2011, 04:20:57 PM
Excuse me if I bring something old to the list, we are a bit behind on TV.

No Ordinary Family - (Cancelled) Really? I went to check and read it got cut back, but no one has said the word cancelled. Limbo hell appears to be order of the day.

Hawaii 5-0. Not sure why this exists outside of nostalgia. From what I have seen it's NCIS in Hawaii, sans the high body count.

Archer. If you haven't seen this mutant sadistic spy weirdness, you're missing out. I would choke Cheryl Carol so hard.

Community. If university was a tenth this interesting, I would have stayed there.

Mercy(dead). I have no idea why I watch this. It's a hospital soap, maybe it reminds me of Trauma(Good show) without the insanity that was Rabbit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2011, 05:44:50 PM
The season finale of No Ordinary Family airs on a saturday. I'm pretty sure that means it's canceled.

Edit: I forgot to mention that Micheal Chiklis  supposedly already signed onto a new show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ian Sane on March 28, 2011, 06:10:42 PM
I've been watching Raising Hope and I like it a lot.  It isn't Parks & Rec good but that's kind of a high standard to meet.  I really liked My Name is Earl and Raising Hope is made by the same people and pretty much has a similar style of humour so it makes sense that I like it.  The parents (or grandparents I guess - Jimmy's parents) are the best characters.

Regarding cancelled shows I'm not surprised to see that Running Wilde got canned.  I watched the first episode because it was made by the creators of Arrested Development.  It was so brutal and hard to watch.  Just not funny and incredibly forced.  It's funny that Perfect Couples is already axed since it was a mid-season debut.  When I tune in to The Office I usually catch the ending credits of it and it is just NEVER funny.  I can't imagine anybody wanting to watch it.

People talk about funny shows like Arrested Development and Futurama getting cancelled too soon.  While that sucks I will give the networks credit on one thing - they will give legitimately funny shows a bit of a chance.  I can't think of any truly hilarious comedy that was canned in the first season.  Those shows are just absolute clunkers with forced attempts at humour that just falls flat.  The networks seem to at least recognize the difference between a show that hasn't found an audience and a show that hasn't found an audience because it absolutely sucks.  If a comedy is actually funny they won't seem to can it immediately.  But when a comedy has no audience and just is not funny they seem to able to recognize that it's a lost cause.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2011, 07:44:38 PM
The Soprano's s1 - 9/10

I don't know why I put this show off for so long.  I was hoping to do a slow burn on this until the fall TV season starts, but I've already worked my way into the 2nd Season and will likely be into the 3rd before the week is over. This show has also motivated me to finally sit down and watch The Godfather series when I'm done. This is good television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on April 04, 2011, 09:47:44 PM
The Borgias

The first episode was pretty good, and did a very good job (probably the best I've ever seen in a series premiere) of introducing you to the main characters AND the links between them. The show has a lot of uncovered depth, and I can only hope that it lasts long enough to explore it all.

As they shove down you throat at in the intro and outro, the writer of The Godfather based that family on the real life Borgias family. The similarities are obvious from the start, but in a good way; they aren't carbon copies, but they share personality traits. There's lots of violence and sex, but what I find it less senseless pleasure, and more informative because (so far) they both only came into play as it pertained to the story.

Anyway, great first episode and I'm looking forward to the rest of the season/series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 05, 2011, 08:00:15 PM
So, another couple of months, and we have another Blu-Ray volume of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, this one covering episodes 40-52.  Unfortunately, after watching this set I really think this series peaked in the "Part 2" set (episodes 14-26).  The show has been consistently less interesting as it has dragged on, with the emphasis on "dragged on."  While the show is still quite watchable and enjoyable, it's basically devolved into a collection of stoic dialog sequences and fairly toothless action sequences that drag on for episode upon episode.  It's easy to see why fans of the manga picked on the first series so much: the first FMA actually had a soul, as well as knowing when to end.  But this?  It's just run-of-the-mill Shonen Jump B.S., with characters constantly conveniently making stupid mistakes that serve to drag the story on beyond its breaking point: I'm at episode 52, and despite the show only having 13 episodes left it doesn't feel like there's an end in sight.  I love a good fight scene and I love well-handled dialog sequences, but at this point it's just become an endless barrage of padding that's growing tiresome.  But hey, because it's a panel-by-panel translation of the manga, it MUST naturally be perfect, right?   :-\
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2011, 03:43:07 AM
No Ordinary Family "series?" finale

Looking past all the grief I've given this show, I'm gonna be sad to see it go now that it just got really interesting.
Everyone is still a moron, especially the sister since she has the most useful power out of all of them but still has to be told when and how to use it. But they finally got around to turning the show into a Live Action "The Incredibles' only to see the show possibly be canceled.

They just came together as a family unit and they just got a bunch of new enemies to fight, so another season probably would have been where the show came into it's own, but too little too late (In unrelated news, ABC's new Medical/Crime Drama had 18 million viewers last week.... I guess people that watch network TV don't like variety). As much as I hated this show, I loved watching it for some reason. But I guess now there is room for better shows, and now my Tuesday TV schedule is empty.

Back to the actual episode:
The last episode had it's issues, but it was enjoyable. You can tell that the order got cut and they tried to wrap everything up before signing off, so some things were rushed, but it really left me wanting a second season. Too bad Michael Chiklis already signed onto another show for a different network, so I think that all but guarantees it ain't coming back or at the very least is very unlikely.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on April 06, 2011, 01:23:44 PM
yeah im in the same boat, it seemed like a really hoaky show at first, but now its interesting. That's the problem with having a serial plotline. It has to have time for it to mature before it can be any good. Same thing happened with the new V. The new V started off interesting, got extremely boring and unwatchable, and then at the very end got really good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 06, 2011, 03:11:31 PM
The Incredibles is in the top 3 of my favorite Pixar movies. If this show was cancelled, I would have considered checking it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 09, 2011, 01:17:25 AM
The Sopranos (s2 & s3)

I just wanted to say that I am hopelessly hooked on this show. I walk around the house talking with the accent and everything. I need to take a break, but I'm only halfway thru s3 and I can't quit till it's over. It's that good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 09, 2011, 11:36:34 PM
The Larry Sanders Show (season 1)

Holy crap, you people need to watch this. The whole series is on Netflix Instant now. It's amazingly funny, and it's so great to see lots of famous actors at younger ages. Rip Torn is absolutely pitch-perfect as Larry's friend and producer. If you haven't seen or heard of this show, go watch it now. You'll love it.

Also, Larry wife is hot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on April 13, 2011, 03:10:02 AM
I just finished the first season of the X Files.

Very enjoyable.  Some of the episodes were just too cheesy but a lot less than I expected.  The show had a very cinematic quality from the first episode that I really liked.  I was really surprised when Deep Throat got killed.  I thought for sure he was going to screw them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on April 13, 2011, 07:33:55 AM
From what I remember, it gets considerably better after S1. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on April 13, 2011, 10:00:00 AM
And then gets considerably worse a few seasons after that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 13, 2011, 10:01:49 AM
Twin Peaks - ..../10

I'm serious, I just don't understand why this show is so beloved. It's boring, it's cheesy and the fucking background music!!!! give it a break already. This show constantly puts me to sleep, and I TRY so hard to watch the whole first season, but the fucking background music!!!! give it a damn rest already. I'm probably gonna watch the 2nd season and see if it gets better, but the 2nd season better not have that same damn background music or I quit this damn show for good. It seriously plays every other scene like everytime something is supposed to be creepy or moody or there are people on the screen. I think in one scene they were already playing music and the background music kicked in and they both just played at the same time. I think it's even the same music in the intro and during the end credits and I just can't handle that damn BG music any more.

I just have to finish the last 30 mins of the 1st season, but I just don't get how people loved this show so much. I actually think I want to start it over before finishing it and actually pay attention, because as it is now, I only watch it while doing something else, but that's mostly because the BG music is like a freaking lullaby to me. Is the background music part of the humor on this show, because it's not funny and much better show have gotten canceled for less.

Now there is a funny moment every here and there, but it took me 6 sessions to actually make it through the 1st episode and on average 2 sessions to make through almost every other episode too. I kept falling asleep during the 2HOUR premiere, but I usually pause most of the rest of the episodes and finish them in bits and pieces. That why I want to restart, (not from the 1st episode), but I do want to give this show a real chance to see if the humor and the intentional cheesiness grows on me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on April 13, 2011, 10:43:30 AM
And then gets considerably worse a few seasons after that.

Well, yeah. I really want to run through the X-Files on Netflix, but I still haven't decided if I care enough about the overarching story to go through the last few seasons (which I've never seen).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 13, 2011, 12:12:29 PM
I'm going through season 4 of the X-files right now. The Monster of the Week episodes hold up much better than the Mythology episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 13, 2011, 12:35:08 PM
I hated the Mythology episodes. The whole thing was a perpetual cock tease of the highest order not to mention the whole Scully and Mulder unfulfilled hard on for each other. When they do resolve something, it usually ends up disappearing in some bloody lights that fly away leaving everybody nothing to do but shrug their shoulders and go home.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 13, 2011, 12:36:56 PM
The Last TV Show I saw as of right now was "My Little Pony."  The writing is laughable, the villains are varied and plentify, the lead are not very bright and somewhat discriminatory, and the most interesting part is there is a breed of vicious fairy ponies that sometimes show up and pwn someone.  Also there are no male pony except for 1 week throughout there year...
 
On the X-Files been rewatching those but I have to stay I stand by my stand that the serious would have been 100 times better in my eye if it had stuck to its roots and left all the super long arch conspiracy stories out.
 
Also I can't believe what they do to the Lone Gunmen...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
Looks like a couple of series I've been watching have wrapped up now for the season, so...

The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (Season 1) - I made no secret at the beginning of this season that I thought this show started weak.  Thankfully, after an early series of mediocre standalone episodes, the show has dramatically improved over the course of the season with multiple story arcs and some truly entertaining writing (especially with the Hulk, who is probably the show's best character and has all the best lines).  It's not up there with the Justice League animated series yet and there are still some minor issues with characterization here and there (Iron Man sometimes comes off as a child, and Wasp can be annoying), but it's getting there.  The season started with a wimper and ended with one of the better season finales (which may not have aired in America yet, as the final episodes just popped up on my TV Torrent site) I've seen in an animated show in years.  Highly recommended, and I hope it returns for another season despite it's underwhelming ratings.  Hey Disney, if you want good ratings don't stick a show on Disney XD, which few people have.

Being Human (US) - Like Avengers, this was another slow burn.  I started out hating this cast and thought the writing was weak, but over the course of the short 13-episode season the show has gotten a lot better.  The special effects are still goofy and the acting can be hit or miss in places, but this is a pretty solid (though not spectacular) show now with some decent writing.  I look forward to this one returning next season, hopefully for a longer season.

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 3) - Wow, Season 3 was extremely hit or miss.  It's pretty distinctly divided into two halves: the ****ty first half where we have such riveting stories as "the droids go for a bath!" and "investigate poisoned TEA!"....and the pretty awesome second half that returns to what makes this show and Star Wars in general entertaining with epic fights and delving into the Star Wars expanded universe lore.  I don't know what happened that caused this season to end up this way (especially since literally only half this season takes place after Season 2), but it really is disappointing.  In the end, the number of bad episodes just about equals the number of excellent episodes for a pretty mediocre season in general.  I hope the production staff at Lucasfilm have learned their lesson about making bad television in Season 3, because Season 4 is already confirmed.  I just pray that Season 4 can make up for the failures of Season 3 and live up to the awesomeness of Season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on April 13, 2011, 01:10:08 PM
Twin Peaks - ..../10

I loved Twin Peaks. I find it hard not to love just about anything David Lynch puts out however. That said, the middle of the second season is almost unwatchable. They wrap up Laura Palmer's death and then enter into a lull, where every secondary character gets their own side plots. Having to sit through episodes focused on Donna and James was almost enough for me to turn it off at the time. The second season does pick back up however, as the shows centers itself around Cooper again. It's just too bad Lynch made that terrible Twin Peaks film, instead of wrapping up the show's cliffhanger.


Also I can't believe what they do to the Lone Gunmen...

Yeah...

Thankfully, you can always watch their spin-off show! I actually didn't care for it very much at the time, but have since gone back and watched it. It kept me pretty entertained.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 13, 2011, 02:16:42 PM
Loved the Lone Gunmen spin off show and I was hoping it go for a little bit after X-Files.  Though watching Chuck now has a very similar vibe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 13, 2011, 02:22:18 PM
Looks like a couple of series I've been watching have wrapped up now for the season, so...

The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes (Season 1) - I made no secret at the beginning of this season that I thought this show started weak.  Thankfully, after an early series of mediocre standalone episodes, the show has dramatically improved over the course of the season with multiple story arcs and some truly entertaining writing (especially with the Hulk, who is probably the show's best character and has all the best lines).  It's not up there with the Justice League animated series yet and there are still some minor issues with characterization here and there (Iron Man sometimes comes off as a child, and Wasp can be annoying), but it's getting there.  The season started with a wimper and ended with one of the better season finales (which may not have aired in America yet, as the final episodes just popped up on my TV Torrent site) I've seen in an animated show in years.  Highly recommended, and I hope it returns for another season despite it's underwhelming ratings.  Hey Disney, if you want good ratings don't stick a show on Disney XD, which few people have.

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STuff
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I just got done watching the First Season of the new animated Iron Man, where Tony is a Teen,  let me tell you that starts out on a trajectory for cash-in but after getting a few under the belt its really good.  The tie in to things that happen in earlier episodes is very surprisingly well done.  Is the Ironman in this one from that series?

Like Justice League Unlimited, I vote for it in the best Cartoon ever category, was a continuation of Batman: The Animated Series, the Superman that was going on WB a little after Batman: The Animated Series, a Prequel for Batman Beyond (Batman Beyond was done before JLU).  If so done by some of the same writers as the Animated Ironman a slow start with a strong mid and end game be what I expect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2011, 02:30:15 PM
I just got done watching the First Season of the new animated Iron Man, where Tony is a Teen,  let me tell you that starts out on a trajectory for cash-in but after getting a few under the belt its really good.  The tie in to things that happen in earlier episodes is very surprisingly well done.  Is the Ironman in this one from that series?

No, Iron Man: Armored Adventures is its own thing, and you'll be happy to know that a second season of that show is...finally (several years after the first season)...coming in late Spring/Summer of this year.  While not my favorite interpretation of that character, I agree with you on that show's quality: it starts out weak and derivative, but becomes quite good as it develops into its own show 6-7 episodes in.  I just wish that it wasn't the only Marvel animated series created before the Disney merger to survive to reach another season after that merger, as the loss of Spectacular Spider-Man was tragic and even Wolverine & The X-Men had found a solid footing by then. 

The Iron Man in Avengers: EMH (all the characters, really) seems to be based on a culmination of traits and personalities from several different sources (namely, the "normal" Marvel universe, the Ultimate universe, and the Live-Action movies), including his voice actor doing a Robert Downey Jr. impression (incidentally, all the Avengers voice actors are the same as those used for those characters in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 13, 2011, 11:04:46 PM
Sports Show with Norm MacDonald - 10/10
Norm MacDonald is the funniest person to ever appear on a television. Ever since I saw him on Saturday Night Live as a kid I've been a huge fan. Sports Show's series premier had me (and my wife for the most part) laughing hysterically for half an hour straight. If you missed it, you need to set your DVR and get ready to laugh your ass off. Even if you're not into sports at all, you'll still get all the jokes.

Also his stand up special on Comedy Central (Norm MacDonald: Me Doing Stand Up) is absolutely hilarious.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 13, 2011, 11:55:18 PM
I just got done watching the First Season of the new animated Iron Man, where Tony is a Teen,  let me tell you that starts out on a trajectory for cash-in but after getting a few under the belt its really good.  The tie in to things that happen in earlier episodes is very surprisingly well done.  Is the Ironman in this one from that series?

No, Iron Man: Armored Adventures is its own thing, and you'll be happy to know that a second season of that show is...finally (several years after the first season)...coming in late Spring/Summer of this year.  While not my favorite interpretation of that character, I agree with you on that show's quality: it starts out weak and derivative, but becomes quite good as it develops into its own show 6-7 episodes in.  I just wish that it wasn't the only Marvel animated series created before the Disney merger to survive to reach another season after that merger, as the loss of Spectacular Spider-Man was tragic and even Wolverine & The X-Men had found a solid footing by then. 

The Iron Man in Avengers: EMH (all the characters, really) seems to be based on a culmination of traits and personalities from several different sources (namely, the "normal" Marvel universe, the Ultimate universe, and the Live-Action movies), including his voice actor doing a Robert Downey Jr. impression (incidentally, all the Avengers voice actors are the same as those used for those characters in Marvel Vs. Capcom 3).

That sort of drags... I like Ironman in a way but they really make Tony Stark way to over flawed at times.  Spectacular Spiderman didn't make it that stinks was going to watch through that next...


I don't know if I could watch another X-Men show.  The Fox one even with its flaw is the best to date.  The one done after the Movies was... the opposite of IM:AA it started out ok but quickly went south.


Guess I like to see the Marvel world do what DC did with JLU and all the shows that lead to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 14, 2011, 03:12:44 AM
Spectacular Spiderman didn't make it that stinks was going to watch through that next...

Yeah, and Sony won't even put out the second season as a collected package on DVD like the first season (let alone put either of them on Blu-Ray, where really most animation should be these days since the format's so suited to it).  Despite the show being cut significantly short and several plot threads left hanging, I still highly recommend you watch the two seasons of Spectacular Spider-Man.  They're very well-written, funny, and well-animated.  In other words, they're the exact opposite of all 3 Live-Action Spider-man movies.  Seriously, is it really so hard to write Spidey as a snarky little punk when it comes to the Live Action movies?  Oh wait...Tobey Maquire...yes, it is too hard.  -_-'

And, incidentally, you didn't like X-Men Evolution?  IMO, that's one of those shows that got a lot better by the start of the 3rd season, when it was pretty generic up till that point.  I do miss the days when you'd have long-running Marvel/DC series with interconnected plot threads weaving throughout the show.  I guess it's just not economical to do serialized animated shows these days.  Oh well, at least we have the return of Avatar: The Last Airbender to look forward to in that department.

I would recommend jumping over to Avengers after watching Spectacular Spider-Man, and then wait for the Ultimate Spider-Man (which, despite having almost the exact same premise does not share continuity with Spectacular Spider-Man) series coming later this year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on April 14, 2011, 10:18:34 AM
I have the first two "Marvel Anime" series (Iron Man and Wolverine) sitting on my desktop waiting to be watched. I'm interested to see how they turned out, but not overly enthusiastic. Marvel-based shows just can't seem to live up to their 90s incarnations.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 14, 2011, 10:20:28 AM
I have the first two "Marvel Anime" series (Iron Man and Wolverine) sitting on my desktop waiting to be watched. I'm interested to see how they turned out, but not overly enthusiastic. Marvel-based shows just can't seem to live up to their 90s incarnations.

I've seen a bit of the Iron Man anime, and I found it pretty dull.  I haven't seen the Wolverine anime, but it seems to be somewhat better regarded.  There's also an X-Men anime that just started recently, but I haven't heard anything of its quality.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 14, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
Did anyone on of you watch the Ultimate Spiderman that was done a long time back?  Wonder if it be worth finding.

Also to my wife's chagrin I've been slowing going through Quantum Leap.  Which surprisingly I think I enjoy about as much as I remember enjoying it when I was  kid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on April 14, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
I've been wanting to watch Twin Peaks as well because it has such a buzz cult following, but it's just hard to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on April 15, 2011, 02:06:08 PM
I have the first two "Marvel Anime" series (Iron Man and Wolverine) sitting on my desktop waiting to be watched. I'm interested to see how they turned out, but not overly enthusiastic. Marvel-based shows just can't seem to live up to their 90s incarnations.

I've seen a bit of the Iron Man anime, and I found it pretty dull.  I haven't seen the Wolverine anime, but it seems to be somewhat better regarded.  There's also an X-Men anime that just started recently, but I haven't heard anything of its quality.

Yeah, I read that they're going to do Blade after X-Men. :)


I just started watching this (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=machinima&feature=iv&annotation_id=annotation_556482#p/c/0/6s6UiEuCYXA) the other day. It's a new Mortal Kombat "web-series" based around that Mortal Kombat: Rebirth short film from a while back. The production values look great so far and the cast is certainly nothing to scoff at.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2011, 02:28:24 PM
The MK series started!?

I'm gonna go check that out.
That also reminds me that I was supposed to watch the second ep of the Xmen anime too. I think ep 3 should be up later tonite too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 18, 2011, 01:36:11 AM
Game of Thrones ///

I have no idea what the hell is going on. The first scene is pretty dope, then after that it kinda wades in the water without ever sinking. Then the last scene, as usual with these kinds of series, is dope as well.

But nothing...literally NOTHING happened during the middle of the episode. Some chick got raped, some midget had an eight-some, and some dude got his gut split open.

Don't know what to think just yet. It has potential simply because the first scene was dope and the main characters have wolf puppies with one that looked my stolen husky/wolf puppy. It also has a bunch of nudity, though I have an inclination it's going to end up like Spartacus (i.e. way too far).

I did find myself laughing a lot throughout the show. Not because it was funny, but because of how cheesy somethings were.

Anyway, if I had to sum it up in a word: unimpressed.

Camelot ///

Decided to watch the 3rd and 4th episode.

Finally, a character whom I actually like: Gwain. Cut-throat bastard who made Arthur look like the pansy little bitch he is. And I'm warming up to Merlin as well. They honestly should just call him The Avatar, because I guess that's what he is. Pretty dope.

The story is still in shambles. I have no idea what's going on. Something about a love triangle and a jealous sister. That's basically all I got out of it.

And I love how Merlin lied about the story of Excalibur. Brilliant. It had me laughing the entire time he was explaining it.

The series as a whole is still "meh". Not bad, but most certainly not good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 19, 2011, 08:17:13 AM
It's over, folks. The franchise comes to a screeching halt.

After Stargate Universe ends, at the end of Season 2, there will be no follow-up movies to finish the story. The Atlantis and SG1 movies are both cancelled as well.

I suspect they're simply going to leave the franchise dormant for 5+ years then reboot it into an alternate timeline sound familiar? to wash their hands of established events and to possibly rewrite how the stargate works.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 19, 2011, 09:32:25 AM
It's over, folks. The franchise comes to a screeching halt.

After Stargate Universe ends, at the end of Season 2, there will be no follow-up movies to finish the story. The Atlantis and SG1 movies are both cancelled as well.

I suspect they're simply going to leave the franchise dormant for 5+ years then reboot it into an alternate timeline sound familiar? to wash their hands of established events and to possibly rewrite how the stargate works.

But how the Stargate works is a key part of the core of that franchise.  Changing the rest come first.  Though I have to say the later series have been much more series and not as fun as the first half of the original.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on April 19, 2011, 04:39:23 PM
What did you guys think of the animation portion of last weeks Fringe?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 20, 2011, 08:11:27 AM
Thats good. Maybe they can get the oldest of fans, the ones like me who really liked the original movie but nothing subsequent, to actually give a damn.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 21, 2011, 11:59:52 PM
Still watching Larry Sanders. By season 4, it's starting to get...more serious than funny. Still funny, no doubt, thanks largely to Rip Torn's pitch-perfect delivery of his character, Arthur.

HEY NOW.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 22, 2011, 12:41:34 AM
I read an article recently putting The Larry Sanders Show in the same discussion as NewsRadio, which led me to immediately put it on my Netflix Queue. I'd have to get through Arrested Development (which I haven't started yet (I know)) before I get to it, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 25, 2011, 12:16:01 PM
Doctor Who is back!
 
I love Steven Moffat's writing. Whenever he does two parters its always 90% setup to the second. Looking forward to next week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 25, 2011, 12:19:50 PM
Doctor Who is back!
 
I love Steven Moffat's writing. Whenever he does two parters its always 90% setup to the second. Looking forward to next week.
Are they showing it online?  I'm a big Dr. Who fan but I have no cable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 25, 2011, 12:23:35 PM
Sherlock Great show, wasn't sure I would like the modern twist, but the creators did a great job of translating the mythos and really know the character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 25, 2011, 01:45:17 PM
What did you guys think of the animation portion of last weeks Fringe?

As an animation fan, I thought it looked like ****.  None of the characters in animated form looked like their live-action counterparts.  Plus, that gimmick went on way too long.  In an episode inspired by acid trips, I think the gag would have worked better as a sub-1 minute gag rather than a 30-minute gag.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on April 25, 2011, 09:23:39 PM
What did you guys think of the animation portion of last weeks Fringe?

As an animation fan, I thought it looked like ****.  None of the characters in animated form looked like their live-action counterparts.  Plus, that gimmick went on way too long.  In an episode inspired by acid trips, I think the gag would have worked better as a sub-1 minute gag rather than a 30-minute gag.

Agree.  Outside of Belle nobody looked like their live-action counterparts.  Olivia seemed like they just grabbed "stock blonde girl 02" and had her voice it.  It had potential but they just didn't use it.  There is so much they could have done with the animation that they couldn't do in real life but instead they had random zombies show up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on April 26, 2011, 06:17:27 AM
I agree with the sentiments so far, and I'm also not a big fan of that half-animation/half-3D model art style. It was kind of cool at first because it made sense in weird sort of way, but then it went on and on. I know Fringe was picked up for another season, but what if this was a test run for what the show will ultimately become in order to save money? If they improve the animation, it wouldn't be terrible, but it would it survive? Would an animated show be able to stay on TV or will it be web-only? Fringe has one of the lowest viewer counts of any network show, and Fox has to be thinking of doing something to save themselves money, broaden the base, or cut ties altogether without getting nerds mad at them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 26, 2011, 06:35:41 AM
Can't lose Fringe. Besides Doctor Who, the world will be out of good Sci-fi to watch. The world will be dominated by endless comedies, medical dramas, police procedural shows and the omnipresent reality show.

I guess with TV sucking so much I can just play more games instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 26, 2011, 06:45:47 AM
Finally got around to watching The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya's "second season" (which is just 14 new episodes interspersed in-between a rebroadcast first season), and man does it suck.  I've always been rather lukewarm on Haruhi, appreciating it's mildly sarcastic tone and occasional moment of wonder, but never understanding why that show of all shows would gather such ridiculous hype.  But this "second season" takes whatever I enjoyed about the show and flushes it down the toilet.  The season is composed of one dull standalone episode and 2 arcs, one 8 episodes long and one 5 episodes long.

The 8-episode "Endless Eight" arc is legendary for its high magnitude of awfulness, being so terrible that it probably single-handedly destroyed the franchise, causing the production staff and voice actors to have to publicly apologize for it.  To make a ridiculously long story short, "Endless Eight" has the characters stuck in a 2-week time loop where they forget everything at the end of the loop.  Every episode has the same scenes and the same dialogue.  And this crap goes on for 8 episodes, with an especially lame conclusion.  Yeah...

As for the other arc, it just details the making of the intentionally crappy "Episode 0" fan movie from the first season.  It's not terrible, just stretched out way too long and ruined by long scenes of dull exposition that ruin any potential humor.  This was a problem I had with the original season as well, but the issue's so much more pronounced here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 26, 2011, 06:46:12 AM

Can't lose Fringe. Besides Doctor Who, the world will be out of good Sci-fi to watch. The world will be dominated by endless comedies, medical dramas, police procedural shows and the omnipresent reality show.

I guess with TV sucking so much I can just play more games instead.

There's lots of good TV right now. Pretty much everything on HBO and AMC, most of what's on FX and NBC's Thursday night, plus some assorted other things. Though a lot of that stuff is out of season at the moment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 27, 2011, 03:48:26 AM
Can't lose Fringe. Besides Doctor Who, the world will be out of good Sci-fi to watch. The world will be dominated by endless comedies, medical dramas, police procedural shows and the omnipresent reality show.

I guess with TV sucking so much I can just play more games instead.

There is several one-off series coming out of the UK (alongside the Doctor Who universe) like Marchlands, Outcasts etc but there is very little US produced stuffs now. And i'm thinking Terra Nova is going to "flop" not because its doing badly but because its so expensive its "success numbers" will be just that higher.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on April 27, 2011, 04:20:24 AM
The first two episodes of Game of Thrones have been excllent.  I haven't read any of the books but it hasn't been any impediment.  The sets and costumes are excellent and with actors like Sean Bean involved the cast is great.  I was pleasantly surprised that the dwarf I heard about was a real life dwarf and not a fantasy dwarf.  The character is one of my favorites so far.

At the end of the second episode you can really see a lot of the different confilcts building.  This is must watch stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 27, 2011, 04:52:26 AM
Sixth...our opinion's couldn't be more different. I will agree, however, that the midget is by far my favorite character.

That said, Game of Thrones is awfully boring right now. Everything I've seen is either predictable or unwarranted. Conversations just seem to go on and on.

I'm going to continue watching simply because it's the first season, I like the settings and those wolves are bad ass. But something better happen soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on April 27, 2011, 10:21:11 AM
The first two episodes of Game of Thrones have been excllent.  I haven't read any of the books but it hasn't been any impediment.  The sets and costumes are excellent and with actors like Sean Bean involved the cast is great.  I was pleasantly surprised that the dwarf I heard about was a real life dwarf and not a fantasy dwarf.  The character is one of my favorites so far.

At the end of the second episode you can really see a lot of the different confilcts building.  This is must watch stuff.

I agree! My only complaint is that until the end of the latest episode everyone was having sex doggy style. The conversations are deep, but I actually like that, it's more book-like. There is a lot going on, and I watched the first episode twice to better understand the differing factions, but I definitely like where the story is going.

It's pretty good so far, and it's definitely better than Camelot. I haven't read the books, but now I probably will, and still watch the show.

The only thing I'm really disappointed in is the bastard son going to the wall, I wish he would have stayed with the family. I also didn't like them killing the wolf, and I hope that redhead doesn't marry that dick-headed prince. But even there, as I hate the prince, I like the character's (potential) effect on the story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 28, 2011, 02:38:43 AM
Parks and Recreation

I know I'm late but I had to write something about this phenomenal show. I'll keep it short though and say that Season 1 wasn't needed (6 episodes?!). Season 2 was awesome (24 episodes?!). And I almost pissed myself watching 'Soulmates' in Season 3.

Top 3 favorite characters.

Ron is an awesomely ironic character who only becomes greater the more I see him. Easily one of the best characters created since Ricky Gervais's 'The Office' manager.
Tom is easily the funniest person on the show. Maybe not the most awesome, but definitely the funniest.
Jerry is the 'Butters' of this show, except he's actually really talent, making the jokes (usually made by Tom) even more hilarious.


EDIT:

New South Park

Thank God this show is back on the air. It has once again brought up an issue I hadn't realized was a problem, i.e. Apple tracking your location through your iphone/ipad. I also laughed - a lot. Cartman's rants are something that really can't get old.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on April 30, 2011, 05:26:25 PM
game of thrones is all sorts of awesome
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 30, 2011, 08:53:06 PM
Lost Season 2: I still like it. The theme of every character randomly going crazy is getting a bit old. Some character motivations are a bit random as well. Also, there seem to be a few abandoned plot lines popping up here and there. The season finale was good, I suppose. It feels like a lot of characters have getten written off this season, which doesn't seem like it'll bode well for the rest of the show. All in all, the plot is keeping me motivated, and the show still throws out a couple of good surprises here and there. Still liking it.

Oh, and this same one thing keeps bothering me: WTF do the other 30 some odd people do on the island all day? It's like there were 42 of em and then a couple died, and the show still only follows like 10 of 'em and that's still after they added the people from the back of the plane.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2011, 01:14:14 AM
The secret answer to all of your questions about LOST
they are making it up as they go along. It all makes sense if you over analyze it for meaning that aren't there
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 01, 2011, 01:08:51 PM
Gets really good at the end of Season 3 and for all of Season 4. Ignore the haters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 01, 2011, 01:50:17 PM
Doctor Who... i called this last week. Steven Moffat knows how to write 2 parters and this is no exception. His writing is fantastic and even though the didn't completely resolve last week's cliffhanger it's been written to play long ball over the season.

Looking forward to seeing how this plays out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2011, 01:58:35 PM
Gets really good at the end of Season 3 and for all of Season 4. Ignore the haters.

never said it wasn't interesting, and I know that no original show has a 6 season arc planned from the beginning, but this show just seemed like they didn't even plan out the whole season at the beginning of the season. Everyone had to analyze it for deeper meanings and if you didn't follow the wiki, official fan sites & forum discussions, you probably missed alot of the "connections" to have things make sense.

I probably makes for a much better show if you just marathon it, but once a week in seasons led to too many questions and not enough answers to really follow everything in detail. By the time they answer a question, it's 12 episodes later, and ......

actually I really don't want to get into this. I was Lost on Lost and I will leave it at that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Crimm on May 01, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
I give the last show I saw a 6
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 04:02:36 AM
Sopranos - 9.5/10

I've enjoyed each season and pretty much every episode up until the 6th season where some eps where hit and miss. I found myself not giving a **** about most of the characters that would run into "trouble" when they ran into trouble I used to really like Chris Moltisanti, but by the time he met his untimely demise, he had already fallen out of my favor with the repeated abuse of not only Adriana but the drugs. & WTF at the ending. I knew it was coming because of all the controversy back when the show ended, but WTF was that. I didn't expect it to be like that. Honestly I'm not that mad since I knew it was coming, but what a fucked up way to end th show. Either way, it's highly recommended.

Now I have freedom to check out The Game of Thrones and The Killing before moving onto The West Wing and whatever is in my backlog/queue.

Which reminds me, I have a few episodes of Mortal Kombat to catch up on. The 1st ep was pretty interesting and it sounds like it gets better from some things I've read online.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 02, 2011, 08:53:55 AM
I probably makes for a much better show if you just marathon it, but once a week in seasons led to too many questions and not enough answers to really follow everything in detail. By the time they answer a question, it's 12 episodes later, and ......

Yeah, I marathoned the first 5 seasons and I really think it helped. Connections between events in different seasons are much more obvious if you've seen those seasons within a few days of each other.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 02, 2011, 09:42:31 AM
I've marathoned the first few seasons of Lost as well.  I enjoyed it, though some parts where drawn out way to long.  I don't think I was really to Lost on the whole thing but I think that is just because how my mind works.  After hosting a Mafia game Lost actually gives me the same fill where you have someplace  you want to go but events keeping finding a way to go the  totally unanticipated way and you've go to pull things together and try to weave a rug with the thread your given.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2011, 09:46:20 PM
Mortal Kombat Legacy

Why is this show censored now? Before I was watching episode 2 I saw a pic of Jax punching Kano's eye out, but when that scene came up, it black screened then cut to an angle where if you didn't know Kano lost an eye, you couldn't tell that is what just happened.... yet they still say "****" uncensored.

edit: Actually in ep 3 they even sensor the work "****".
Why? where are the uncensored clips?


edit 2: I found ep2 uncensored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPKaCgP8Ux4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPKaCgP8Ux4)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on May 03, 2011, 05:10:59 PM
You can get all of the episodes uncensored through various torrents. I really hope they clear up the issue on YouTube however. The second episode is practically made by that one scene with Jax and Kano!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 03, 2011, 05:25:57 PM
Mortal Kombat Legacy

Why is this show censored now? Before I was watching episode 2 I saw a pic of Jax punching Kano's eye out, but when that scene came up, it black screened then cut to an angle where if you didn't know Kano lost an eye, you couldn't tell that is what just happened.... yet they still say "****" uncensored.

edit: Actually in ep 3 they even sensor the work "****".
Why? where are the uncensored clips?


edit 2: I found ep2 uncensored
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPKaCgP8Ux4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPKaCgP8Ux4)

Apparently the uncensored episodes appear after the censored ones do, by about a week.

Oh, and this same one thing keeps bothering me: WTF do the other 30 some odd people do on the island all day? It's like there were 42 of em and then a couple died, and the show still only follows like 10 of 'em and that's still after they added the people from the back of the plane.

That bothered me to extremes. Around 50 people were on the plane when it crashed, yet only THREE get off at the end of the series finale. We know what happened to Rose and Bernard, and we know Nikki and Paolo died, so where's the other 46 :confused;
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 08, 2011, 04:02:44 PM
Party Down - 8/10

I always meant to check this one out when it first came out but i didn't have Starz.... but I did have Netflix, so I guess I have no excuse. This show really grew on me, but I can only guess that it's already been canceled.

It's about a group of mostly wanna be hollywood types working for a catering company while trying to find that big break. They work all sorts of parties and all sorts of crazy things happen while on the job, and every episode tends be be entertaining/funny enough to keep you watching.

Funniest moment was the end Reunion episode near the end of the first season. Ron, the team leader, decides to pound a bottle of whiskey and then ends up puking his brains out in the parking lot while trying to ask some chick to call an ambulance while spewing puke all over the ground.(think burping out your ABC's only while puking)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 08, 2011, 07:47:36 PM
Party Down is wonderful. So annoyed it got cancelled. I'm glad Adam Scott landed that Parks and Rec role, he was really excellent in Party Down.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2011, 01:07:35 AM
I marathoned both seasons starting Friday afternoon. Had some free time and that was one of the first things that popped up on my IW list, so I just hit play.... and then next episode... and then next episode and then 2 days later (20 episodes) it was all done. This show could have used another season or 2 so I kinda regret not getting on board sooner in hopes that it wouldn't have gotten canceled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on May 09, 2011, 07:33:13 AM
Yeah I just finished watching Party Down last week. I like it, but as you said it could have used a few more seasons, but with Adam Scott leaving to Parks & Rec, there was no way it was going to happen. It wouldn't have been any good without him anyway. Overall it was good, but just felt a little underdeveloped as a whole.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 09, 2011, 08:36:48 AM
ANNOUNCEMENT EVERYONE: For everyone who watched Lost and wanted a show like it but fixed its "it doesn't answer questions?" irritatant?

See: Fringe.

The season finale was complex, mind-bending yet made sense in it's own universe. It answered questions and setup season 4 perfectly with "what now?".

And Asterix is just a sight to see. I will never get bored of her face.


I just wish some of the hype Lost got went to Fringe as its far more deserving and definitely fixes the "long ball" issues of writing stories that Lost had. I feel a bit bad in thinking "oh i'll catch up to Fringe later on", only doing so now 3 years later, but knowing it's this good i wish i did sooner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2011, 10:43:38 AM
Fringe is and has been on my list since it aired.

I've watched most of the 1st season and an ep or 2 from the 2nd, but I felt lost in the world of Triptophan and and dimensional shifts. I plan on starting over from the beginning sooner or later though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 09, 2011, 10:48:24 AM
Been watching with my Son the 90's Mega Man cartoon with the Super Fighting Robot them song.  He enjoys I actually do to.  I like how they get the one liners in and the interplay between characters.  Though most of an episode my son is pointing at Protoman going, "He's his brother." and then Rush with "That's his Puppy."  Though poor Roll doesn't get identified.

Also watched the First 2 episodes of Dr.Who from this season.  Their... good.  I don't know how they are going to wrap the whole Doctor True death thing around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 09, 2011, 11:42:53 AM
Triptophan?

They overdose on cough medicine on Fringe?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 09, 2011, 08:26:03 PM
Has anyone here been watching Treme? I haven't started it yet, but it's rocketing up my backlog because it's made by David Simon (creator of The Wire). I still need to finish The Wire, and then I'm going to catch up with Breaking Bad, but then I'll probably go for this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 16, 2011, 12:15:08 AM
Forget what I said about Game of Thrones....all those episodes where it seemed like nothing happened, that was intentional. The character development has been on par with some of the greatest HBO shows including Boardwalk Empire and Soprano's. Now it seems, as this last episode has crossed the half way mark for the season, that all these characters and their relationships are coming to head. I am anxiously awaiting the conclusion, because as of now, anything can happen. Like The Wire, it has this overwhelming presence that not even main characters are safe from death or an equal destruction. That presence is unique and refreshing in itself, but so is a show filmed with this setting actually being good.

If you haven't watched a single episode, I would honestly tell you to wait till the season is over to start. Why? Because you'll want to watch the whole thing from start to finish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 16, 2011, 12:38:03 AM
I just bought the book on my Kindle, so I feel like I should read that instead of watching the show. Beginning to regret that decision.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 16, 2011, 08:55:23 AM
X-Files Season 2 Episode 7 - "3". The first one so far that I just plain disliked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on May 16, 2011, 09:52:05 AM
I always thought that "3" was decent. The actual plot suffers from a lack of logic in some places, but the overall mood and atmosphere is great. Scully has been gone for a while now and Mulder is depressed. The entire episode really plays out more as a state of Mulder's mind than anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 16, 2011, 10:50:34 AM
I just hate vampire stuff in general I think. Plus I missed Scully. Plus Mulder making out with that vampire chick just seemed so out of character, I don't care how depressed he was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GK on May 16, 2011, 12:39:48 PM
Stargate Universe season 2(and series) finale - 7/10

Wasn't a bad ep. Actually it was pretty good. But seeing as the show was announced as cancelled well beforehand, the whole thing was a bit of a downer as you knew it was going to end on a cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 17, 2011, 10:29:02 AM
hmm game of thrones

incest, beheadings, horse decapitation, falling off castles, dwarf sex, brothels, eunichs, rape, poisoning, attempted infanticide, treason, wooden lance tracheotomies, so much stuff keeps it interesting. eah it did slow down after episode 1, but it picked up last episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2011, 02:46:52 PM
I don't know if I've commented on this yet, but

Community Season 2 finale (pt 1 & 2) was great.
Another paintball episode that started off with a western theme and finished up on a Star Wars one. Probably one of my favorite episodes of the season that I can remember.

Smallville Series Finale
I've chosen to overlook lots of little things that happened in the last episode due to it being the last episode and time and budget constraints being taken into account. Over all I liked it but wished they had spent more time with Clark in the suit.
TBH Season 8, 9 & 10 were all a giant step up in quality of story from 5, 6 & 7. But if you've seen 5, 6 & 7, you would no that wasn't too hard to do. I'm glad I rode it out till the end though. It was a good 10 years. Maybe that Bruce Wayne show gets greenlit now that Smallville is off the air, but it probably won't.

The Killing
This is a show about a town where a girl goes missing and is presumed dead, they spend the whole season trying to solve the murder. Some parts of this show remind me of Twin Peaks right down to the annoying sound/music they use during every other scene. Thankfully it lacks the soap opery production,  dialog & acting and replaces it with something that I can actually enjoy.

Game of Thrones
Not much to say as it's already been said in this thread several times. I haven't seen the latest episode yet, but I figure I'll be watching this one till the end as long as the quality stays the same.

House M.D.
Dr. House has lost his damn mind. I don't know if any of you still watch that show, but House is on some sort of thrill seeking live or die suicide run. I hear next season is likely to be the last, so I'm curious as to how they are gonna play out his downward spiral of self destruction.

Mortal Kombat Legacy
It's a youtube series and it's been very well handled so far. Production values are pretty high for this sort of thing and it needs more viewers so that they continue making them and hopefully bring it to television. I'll link you to all the recent *Uncensored* episodes:

Episode 1: Jax Sonya & Kano pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6UiEuCYXA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6UiEuCYXA)

Episode 2: Jax, Sonya & Kano pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTSEa--Alkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTSEa--Alkw)

Episode 3: Johnny Cage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4dDzPMK0ko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4dDzPMK0ko)

Episode 4: Kitana & Milena pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFbGNqs0JQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFbGNqs0JQ)

Episode 5: Kitana & Milena pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QRSbf9H5M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QRSbf9H5M)

Episode 6: Raiden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWh4Z42SJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWh4Z42SJk)

I'm very interested to see how this all plays out since right now it's just setting up all the characters. The episodes are kinda short and I really wish they would be atleast 12-15 minutes long consistently, but it's straight and to the point on what I assume is a pretty low budget (It's backed by WB I believe), so I'm really not gonna nitpick on things like that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on May 19, 2011, 10:10:43 PM
Lost Season 3: The show has now officially switched premises. The show was about a group of people who crashed on an island, struggling to get by and find a way to get rescued. Now, it's about a bunch of people trying to solve the mystery of the people they seem to be at war with. Not that it's, bad. The story kept things happening, even when **** got kinda weird. However, lot of things were explained, even if most of the "why is that on the island?" questions have the same answer the Dharma Initiative people put it there. In any event, the story is still exciting and doesn't yet feel strained, though I feel like it's about to in a big way. Also, the same thing keeps happening where side characters are introduced just to die. Also, I think too many main characters died this season just to make room for there to be more development of the others. Speaking of which, I hate Juliet. She has the same fucking smirk in every scene, and I hate her. She's incredibly annoying. Even her flash backs started pissing me off because I had to keep watching her make that same stupid face. But, this was the season that two major things happened: we're introduced to the idea that everyone on the island is dead, which is blatantly stated, then reinforced; and that they eventually get off the island. The season finale had the first flash-forward where we see what Jack's life is like after leaving the island. It's not pretty. All in all, still liking it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 20, 2011, 10:07:20 AM
Season 3 is pretty poorly regarded, though the finale is just plain awesome. For most of season 3, they didn't know how long the show was going to last, and it shows - it definitely seems like they're treading water. Once they figure out that they're going to do exactly 6 seasons, it gets much more focused, and that's reflected in seasons 4 and 5, which are both wonderful, imo. That's the point where you can start to tell that they're building toward something more specific, even if it is still nuts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2011, 11:41:46 AM
Reaper s1 - 8/10

At first this show had some similarities to Chuck. Loveable loser (aka no good with women) working at big retailer with loveable loser friends gets special abilities that allow him to go on missions to hunt down bad guys and save the day.  Those similarities end rather quickly though. They don't mess with the "will he, won't he" nonsense toward his love interest thing for very long,  his best friend is very Jeffster meets Awesome, the other is kinda Ellie meets Morgan and while his girl is no Sarah, I think she is finer from a purely looks standpoint (I'm also very biased towards brunettes over blonds). It's kinda like Supernatural meets Chuck, but this kid is no Sam & Dean... he is very much more Chuck, but in a very Supernatural world of Angels & Demons.

So what is this show about? A kid who's parents sold his soul to the devil and now he has to work as Hell's bounty hunter to stick escaped souls back in Hell. The Devil provides him with a vessel, which is a special item tailored for each of his special jobs, to get the job done with, and then he needs to return that soul safely to one of Hell's Gate Keepers so he can get on with his day. In this case, that portal to hell is at the local DMV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 20, 2011, 01:07:36 PM
Reaper s1 - 8/10

At first this show had some similarities to Chuck. Loveable loser (aka no good with women) working at big retailer with loveable loser friends gets special abilities that allow him to go on missions to hunt down bad guys and save the day.  Those similarities end rather quickly though. They don't mess with the "will he, won't he" nonsense toward his love interest thing for very long,  his best friend is very Jeffster meets Awesome, the other is kinda Ellie meets Morgan and while his girl is no Sarah, I think she is finer from a purely looks standpoint (I'm also very biased towards brunettes over blonds). It's kinda like Supernatural meets Chuck, but this kid is no Sam & Dean... he is very much more Chuck, but in a very Supernatural world of Angels & Demons.

So what is this show about? A kid who's parents sold his soul to the devil and now he has to work as Hell's bounty hunter to stick escaped souls back in Hell. The Devil provides him with a vessel, which is a special item tailored for each of his special jobs, to get the job done with, and then he needs to return that soul safely to one of Hell's Gate Keepers so he can get on with his day. In this case, that portal to hell is at the local DMV.
I remember catching a few episodes of that on TV and meaning to actually watch it.  Have you ever watched "Dead Like Me"?  This sounds a lot like that as well.  Though have you found out who is Dad is in Season 1?  He knew the few episodes I watched.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2011, 01:19:46 PM
I've seen Dead Like Me and it's a little like that show.
A mix of Dead Like Me + Chuck + Supernatural would be a simplified way of generalizing it.

Dead Like Me in that they are hunting down souls that should be somewhere else.
Chuck by the setting and general characters/personalities
Supernatural as they are hunting and fighting "creatures" with specialized "weapons". There is also The Devil, Demons and spirits with otherworldly powers.

And I'm a actually a few eps into season 2(Netflix Streaming), so I know all about the daddy drama. It's a good show, you should check it out from the start. It's only 1 & 1/2 seasons long, so it shouldn't take that long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2011, 01:59:02 AM
Just finished Reaper s2

talk about a show that got cut off too soon. A short order on the second season and no 3rd season to follow it up. It didn't end with a lot of tension or unresolved conflict, but it just kinda ends and leaves you wondering whats next for them. I would have really liked a 3rd season just so they coudl end the show definitively instead of like it was just gonna pick up in a second half of season 2 or maybe in a 3rd season, which obviously never happened.

Although it's rumored that Netflix is gonna rescue a show from cancellation this year, it's too bad Netflix can't resurrect shows from the grave instead, because I would recommend this show to be one of the candidates if possible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on May 21, 2011, 11:09:08 AM
Season 3 is pretty poorly regarded, though the finale is just plain awesome. For most of season 3, they didn't know how long the show was going to last, and it shows - it definitely seems like they're treading water. Once they figure out that they're going to do exactly 6 seasons, it gets much more focused, and that's reflected in seasons 4 and 5, which are both wonderful, imo. That's the point where you can start to tell that they're building toward something more specific, even if it is still nuts.

I was definitely getting that feeling, so it's good to know it has some basis. I liked season 3, but not as much as one or two mostly because of all the main characters that died, which was pretty much everyone from the back of the plane except Bernard. But yeah, the finale is pretty epic especially the last flash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on May 22, 2011, 09:02:35 PM
I recently watched the first disc (Oceans, Deserts, Arctic) of three with the series Human Planet by BBC Earth. I'm enjoying it, and loving to see how some people live on such extremes.
My only nitpick is that the footage is in 1080i. Why even bother putting it on a BR if it's not 720p or 1080p.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on May 22, 2011, 10:59:20 PM
Just saw the finale of Fringe.

I didn't expect what happened at all.  There was one thing I couldn't figure out through Why does Peter no longer exist?  Did he unmake himself back to the future style when I wasn't looking?

I was definitely getting that feeling, so it's good to know it has some basis. I liked season 3, but not as much as one or two mostly because of all the main characters that died, which was pretty much everyone from the back of the plane except Bernard. But yeah, the finale is pretty epic especially the last flash.

A lot of those characters died because of circumstances outside the show (a couple of DUIs and some personal reasons).  Unfortunate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 23, 2011, 12:45:22 AM
So I just watched two new episodes of Game of Thrones. One premiered tonight, and its successor premiered afterwards but only online.

This is easily my new favorite show. I find it so interesting in fact, that I search out for more back story and history on the internet and am contemplating reading the books just so I don't have to wait to see how this story ends.

It is truly fascinating. Like I said before, everything is coming to a head...not slowly, but galloping towards the end. And it's not like this show is unpredictable, it's exactly the opposite. It takes all these great characters and then asks itself, how could I make the most out of them? The answer is always conflict. If I have to kill off a character in order to drop the civilities between mutual parties, then so be it. And that's why I love it. Anyone can get the ax. I can predict what is going to happen, but it still doesn't prepare me for the veracity of the conflict or the death of the character. It's amazing to watch.

Only 3 more episodes left. I can't imagine everything being tied off perfectly with a little knot in that time frame.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2011, 01:33:01 AM
Are you saying that there were 2 new episodes on tonite?
One on the air and the other online only?

I haven't watched tonites episode yet, but I don't want to miss an extra ep if I have to find it online too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 23, 2011, 02:36:58 AM
Yeah two episodes came out tonight; one on air, one online. You can only access the one online through HBO GO and that requires a subscription. I've tried to look for it on torrents simply because the quality HBO stream was so awful I could barely read the subtitles (which at one point is all you can understand during a epic...EPIC speech).

Still, if you have the ability to, definitely watch it. I can't wait to watch it again in HD glory...that's how good it was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
My mom has HBO and my email is attached to her Comcast account, but I've never figured out how to sign up through the HBO site. But I've also never really tried to figure it out either. do you need some special code or account number?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 23, 2011, 12:24:38 PM
Nope. Just go to HBOgo.com, click sign in, click Comcast - it'll redirect you to comcast to login, once you do you get thrown back to hbo go and your set. If it does ask you to create an account, and it might, all you need is your comcast login; nothing special.

Or you can watch the episode at xfinity.comcast.net. Just login and go to on demand.


So I just saw the latest episode in HighDef. What a difference that makes. I could actually read the subtitles and holy shite. I'm about to spoiler it up for those that want to speculate. I got a couple theories on how it'll all end.


So Ned is prisoner to the Lannisters - That means Ned's Son will more than likely gather up an army to free him. War is a-comin'. The old Lannister and Jamie are already marching with troops. Who knows what Jamie intends to do with his half.
The Imp and the swordsman - I'm pretty sure they'll want no part of it and just avoid the entire situation. Who knows though, he may get himself into trouble again. Especially if Rob is the first to find him. I hope I see more of them regardless. They seem like quite the hilarious pair.
Cat Stark - More than likely will get word from Rob and ask her sister to join forces.
The girls Stark - I got a sneaky suspicion that the red head is still in Kings Landing. The short one probably not.
The Dead King's Gay Brother - He dipped right? Well I bet he still thinks he'd be a better king than any Stark or Lannister. My guess is he'll have something important to do these next few episodes. I have no idea what though.
Dragon Queen - I think there will be one more attempt on her life. One that might come from close within her inner circle. I also think the Dothraki will have far more trouble travelling over the sea than they expect.

In the end - I expect full well that Ned Stark will die. I really really don't want him too, but just like Stringer Bell...I'm sure his days are numbered. I also think the young prince/king will die...leaving Jamie to pursue the crown which might make for an epic battle against the horse lords. Who knows though. This show is crazy like that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 25, 2011, 12:52:36 AM
Just saw the finale of Fringe.

I didn't expect what happened at all.  There was one thing I couldn't figure out through Why does Peter no longer exist?  Did he unmake himself back to the future style when I wasn't looking?

Yeah, that Season Finale was terrible, even for Fringe.  I don't know why Science Fiction shows repeatedly think basing an episode around the initial concept that episode used is inherently interesting (Star Trek is especially fond of it).  Without context and having seen the journey, I was just bored watching the episode.  And then the final 5 minutes came, and I was just dumbfounded at what a cheap leap in logic that was.  It's also a cop-out since it rips out any dramatic tension in the Big Plot this scene was trying to drive home.

For my birthday last month I got a gift card I eventually used to pick up a Blu-Ray set for an anime series called Ga-Rei-Zero.  I've watched the first 2 episodes, and man this show isn't grabbing me.  This is one of those series where the writers think it's really cute to show the ending of the show first and then jump back to show how the "tragedy" came to be, and it really doesn't work so far (the show hasn't even jumped back yet).  These first two episodes are incredibly generic and boring, which is kind of the gag the writers are trying to pull off but much like No More Heroes "daring to bore me" does not make the show any less hard to sit through.  It's going to take a lot of effort and/or boredom to get me to continue watching this 12/13 episode series.

I also picked up the Soul Eater Parts 1 & 2 Blu-Ray today, but sadly there's only a couple of episodes on there I hadn't seen already so the wait till July is already looking long.  I might just watch the rest of the series in downloaded format first while I wait, much like I did waiting for this set to come out after its multi-month delays.  The show looks quite nice in HD, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 27, 2011, 09:49:36 PM
Is anyone here watching "Happy Endings?" It's shockingly good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2011, 10:18:26 PM
I've seen a few eps, but I've honestly been meaning to play catch up.

Damon Jr. looks just like his daddy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SlighTlyKauLField on May 28, 2011, 05:26:48 PM
Party Down.  Season Two Ep 3


5/5
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 31, 2011, 03:10:38 AM
Started a show on Netflix Instant called "Out of Practice."

Despite a promising case (Clark Kent from Ugly Betty, Phil Dunphy from Modern Family, The Fonz, Lisa Cuddy's sister from House, some lady as the mom, and Jennifer Tilly), the show suffers from predicatable and unimaginative writing. The core conceit--they're a family of doctors, falls apart after the second episode because none of them are ever at their jobs. They spend more time in each others apartments (which are all in the same building) and the coffee shop, which destroys the illustion. They don't even really talk about medical things.

So after 10 episodes, I think we're going to stop watching it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on May 31, 2011, 10:18:39 PM
So I just saw the latest episode in HighDef. What a difference that makes. I could actually read the subtitles and holy shite. I'm about to spoiler it up for those that want to speculate. I got a couple theories on how it'll all end.

You forgot about Robert's other brother who we never met.  Ned sent him a note which I assume says that the prince is not the rightful air.  That brings yet another army marching towards the King's Landing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 31, 2011, 10:31:37 PM
You're right. And I forgot about Jon Snow as well. Presumably, he'll want a piece of the action. Ned is the only person who knows his mother.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on June 01, 2011, 03:40:48 AM
You're right. And I forgot about Jon Snow as well. Presumably, he'll want a piece of the action. Ned is the only person who knows his mother.

I've been wondering how Jon Snow can get involved. He obviously cares for his family and Ned treated Jon excellently compared to Robert's bastards.  When he went to the wall he even talked about Jon fulfilling the role Stark's have played for generations.  I know he will want to do something but how?  He just swore off duty to houses and if he leaves he will be executed.  I could see him eventually rising to commander and taking over but that would take a long time.  With the white walkers around and other things it seems like they will all be needed at the wall soon enough too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 01, 2011, 11:41:09 AM
You are right. It doesn't seem possible. But I got an inclination that Jon Snow will be a more important character than he's been.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2011, 08:50:33 PM
I just finished 2 seasons of Sons of Anarchy.
(lots of late night viewing over the past couple of days)

Great show. Everyone should check it out and it was a suitable replacement for The Shield on FX, but I have some issues with the s2 finale.

So they pack up all the women and children at the club to keep them safe while they go out and handle some business. But Gemma goes with Jax's girl and the baby to run some errands while Prospect watches their back. After they go shopping they and Gemma follows that one chick back to the Irish house, Jax's girl and Prospect meet back up at Jax's house.... Why? why would they go there? and if there was so much drama, why would they possibly want to take the baby out to run some errands with them? The baby should have been left at the club and Jax's girl should have returned straight to the club after she dropped Gemma off. But I guess that wouldn't invite all the extra drama if they followed the rules they set up for themselves to keep everyone safe in the first place.

Now that I got that out of the way, when does the 3rd season start?

and what others shows should be on my Watch List?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 04, 2011, 09:08:39 PM
Boardwalk Empire. I can't wait for the second season to start. Other than Game of Thrones, it's easily HBO's best show.

Louie. Most hilarious show on TV. Louie C.K. might be the funniest person on the planet right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2011, 09:27:23 PM
I'm all caught up on both Boardwalk and Game of Thrones.
All caught up on Son of Anarchy
All caught up on...
Breaking Bad, Mad Men, The Killing, The Borgias (another good show), Supernatural, Shameless, It's Always Sunny (when does the new season start?), Weeds (I think... has a new season started yet?), Luther, Being Human, Spartacus, Misfits, The Walking Dead...

I've watched Reaper, Party down, Carnivale, The Sopranos, The Wire, The Shield, The Good Guys...

I guess I could get back into The West Wing or see how The Chicago Code plays out since i stopped watching it weeks ago (I hear it's been canceled) or maybe that X-men anime... but I just haven't been able to get into anime for such a long time now.

That show Breaking In.. has anyone watched that? I hear that's been canceled too. Was that any good? How about Happy Endings?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 04, 2011, 09:43:18 PM
If you haven't seen it, a friend of mine has been raving lately about Six Feet Under. This being the same friend who insisted I watch The Wire and Breaking Bad, I intend to get to it, but I have a couple things I want to watch first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2011, 10:00:00 PM
Seen SixFeetUnder

would not watch again. But I do recommend it.
It' too depressing to put myself through again. But it's a good show.

also all caught up on Dexter.

Maybe I'll look into watching the entire X-Files series or see if Fringe is streaming on Netflix. Been meaning to watch both of those all the way through.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 04, 2011, 10:15:30 PM
Has anyone seen Treme? It basically has the cast of the Wire except in New Orleans.

I've only seen snippets of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2011, 10:19:45 PM
I saw the first episode, it didn't really draw me in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 04, 2011, 10:40:19 PM
I'm interested in Treme, but I have at least half a dozen other things I want to get through first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 04, 2011, 11:55:16 PM
Whats on your "Watch List" list?

Right now mine looks like:
West Wing (working on the 1st season)
Fringe (seen most of the 1st season when it aired)
X-Files (seen lots of eps, never the whole series though)
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Lost s6
24 s6 & s7
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on June 05, 2011, 09:47:00 AM
Has anyone seen Treme? It basically has the cast of the Wire except in New Orleans.

I've only seen snippets of it.

I couldn't get past the first episode, it's missing something that I can't put my finger on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 05, 2011, 10:37:11 AM
First I need to finish The Wire.
Then I need to watch the rest of Breaking Bad before the new season starts next month.
After that would be Mad Men, The Sopranos and Six Feet Under, though I'm not sure which order to do them in.

And that's just the dramas. I missed the last few episodes of Community and Parks and Recreation because of finals, plus I want to finally get around to Arrested Development (I know), and then also Party Down and The Larry Sanders Show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 06, 2011, 11:44:03 AM
Seen SixFeetUnder

would not watch again. But I do recommend it.
It' too depressing to put myself through again. But it's a good show.
That sounds like my Recommendation for "Grave of the Fireflies (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grave_of_the_Fireflies)".
I recommend you watch it exactly once because it is very good but, its way to depressing to watch more than that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on June 06, 2011, 12:22:39 PM
X-Files Season 2, episodes "Colony" and "End Game". This 2-episode arc is epic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 06, 2011, 12:31:17 PM
I've just started X-Files from the beginning.

Mulder and Scully look so young.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 06, 2011, 04:13:46 PM
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes To War.

What a way to go on break until September. I'm not going to spoil anything, anything at all. I will wait for other people here to catch up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 06, 2011, 04:42:20 PM
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes To War.

What a way to go on break until September. I'm not going to spoil anything, anything at all. I will wait for other people here to catch up.
Yeah, I need to get online and Catch up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on June 07, 2011, 09:19:08 AM
Ancient Aliens [Series] 8/10

Very interesting, provocative stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 12, 2011, 10:05:08 PM
Game of Thrones

Welll...I called it. It sucks, and it didn't happen the way I thought it would, but it still happened. I really don't know who's going to carry the next season. Robb, John, Tyrion? It's a damn shame really. Oh well. I still can't imagine everything ending all nice and wrapped up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 14, 2011, 04:11:31 AM
Game of Thrones

Welll...I called it. It sucks, and it didn't happen the way I thought it would, but it still happened. I really don't know who's going to carry the next season. Robb, John, Tyrion? It's a damn shame really. Oh well. I still can't imagine everything ending all nice and wrapped up.

That **** was cold. I hope you know who gets what's comin to him
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 14, 2011, 04:36:38 AM
Hopefully that brat of a king.

(http://i.imgur.com/vXJz1.jpg)

Haters gon' Hate.

But seriously...I think Jon is going to take over. His story has barely begun and it seems like he's on the brink of making a huge, very interesting step. Other than that, Robb might die at some point. Arya will probably become the greatest warrior ever and Bran will become more important (cuz I mean...he kinda has to). No idea what'll happen to Sansa. I got a feeling either Drogo or his unborn son dies....I don't know...I knew something was going to go wrong but I had no idea it would be this serious.

Anyway, after the next episode...depending on how they wrap it up of course, I need to have an extremely entertaining year so the wait for next season is quick. Last Airbender comes back next year as well. Dope.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 14, 2011, 09:44:45 PM
Didn't know where to put this, but since Sean Bean is on Game of Thrones, I thought this to be a fitting place

http://www.wwtdd.com/2011/06/sean-bean-is-the-coolest-dude-on-earth/

That's a sick story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on June 14, 2011, 10:30:29 PM
Joffrey

(http://i111.photobucket.com/albums/n121/avatars_bucket/slap.gif)



The more See Robb the more I like him.  He was in the background for so long I didn't expect this.  Do you think he is going to kill that incestuous brother pusher Jaimie now that Nedd is gone? The cast for this show is amazing.

I think Jon Snow is going to play a big role too, Unagi.  **** on the wall is going down. I can't wait to see the look on Joffrey's face when that guy throws an undead and presumably still moving hand in front of him
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on June 15, 2011, 06:19:40 PM
True Blood: Happened to see the premiere of season 4 thanks to my employer (a cable company)... **** be ****ed, yo.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 15, 2011, 06:53:34 PM
True Blood: Happened to see the premiere of season 4 thanks to my employer (a cable company)... **** be fucked, yo.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 15, 2011, 07:03:43 PM
That show has always been fucked. Nothing makes sense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 23, 2011, 11:18:39 PM
I've been going back an rewatching Futurama from the beginning in preparation for the new episodes. I'm getting toward the end of the first season. My god, this show is just so damn good. I've seen all the original episodes at least a dozen times, but I'm still noticing new details I'd never seen before. Still one of the best shows I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 23, 2011, 11:41:46 PM
X-Files

I know there are a few of you that have watched this show religiously at some point. I'm already into Season 4 and enjoying it, but why do they put the tape "X" on the window? I think I missed that detail somewhere in the earlier season when it was explained.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on June 24, 2011, 12:33:19 AM
It's a signal for Mulder's contact(s) to pay him a visit. It's discreet enough to not draw attention to those out of the loop... or so they think and hope. Think of it like the Bat signal.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 24, 2011, 03:37:15 PM
Game Of Thrones

10/10

I've already written several times why I like this show, so this won't take long. In fact, all I'll say is this: the season is over - download it or wait for it to be released on DVD and watch it. I bet you can't watch just one (even if the first episode is by far the weakest).

My only criticism is that I wish it had a few more episodes. Somethings seemed a bit rushed towards the end. A 12 or 13 episode season would have been just right. I'm glad HBO recognizes this. Season 2 has been approved for 12 episodes.

Wilfred - New Comedy on FX

I don't even know what to think. This show, which originally came from Australia, is about a severely depressed man who is on his wit's end. He then meets his next door neighbor, some hot chick, and his neighbor's dog. The dog is a dog, but in his eyes, it's a full grown, foul-mouthed, pot-smoking man - in a dog costume. It's a strange concept that actually watches better than it sounds. I couldn't help myself from busting out laughing on quite a few occasions. Elijah Wood is perfect for the role because those big creepy eyes of his show how confused we all are. I honestly can't wait to see the second show.

Louie: Season 2 Premiere

Hilarious as always. We pick up where....I guess we never left off actually. It's still as dark, honest, hilarious, and self-deprecating as ever. Watch it if you like to laugh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 24, 2011, 03:48:33 PM
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes To War.

What a way to go on break until September. I'm not going to spoil anything, anything at all. I will wait for other people here to catch up.
Caught up on my trip to Vegas.  Interesting way to do the break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on June 24, 2011, 05:13:21 PM
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes To War.

What a way to go on break until September. I'm not going to spoil anything, anything at all. I will wait for other people here to catch up.
Caught up on my trip to Vegas.  Interesting way to do the break.

I've actually been kind of disappointed with the series since Moffat took over. He's created some of my favorite episodes throughout the newer series though, so I'm hesitant to lay all of the blame on his shoulders. Still, the Eleventh Doctor never seems quite as clever or observant as he should be. I'm glad that they've toned down the use of the sonic screwdriver, but other than that the bad has outweighed the good for the past one and half seasons. The current season in particular has been ridiculously predictable, running heavily through the meta-plot while ignoring better side stories (like The Doctor's Wife). Then you have other questionable changes, like the "upgraded" Daleks. Still, it's worth watching. I no longer expect it to go anywhere surprising however, which saddens me.

On a brighter note, I hear that Torchwood is making a return this summer! :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 24, 2011, 05:19:22 PM
Doctor Who - A Good Man Goes To War.

What a way to go on break until September. I'm not going to spoil anything, anything at all. I will wait for other people here to catch up.
Caught up on my trip to Vegas.  Interesting way to do the break.

I've actually been kind of disappointed with the series since Moffat took over. He's created some of my favorite episodes throughout the newer series though, so I'm hesitant to lay all of the blame on his shoulders. Still, the Eleventh Doctor never seems quite as clever or observant as he should be. I'm glad that they've toned down the use of the sonic screwdriver, but other than that the bad has outweighed the good for the past one and half seasons. The current season in particular has been ridiculously predictable, running heavily through the meta-plot while ignoring better side stories (like The Doctor's Wife). Then you have other questionable changes, like the "upgraded" Daleks. Still, it's worth watching. I no longer expect it to go anywhere surprising however, which saddens me.

On a brighter note, I hear that Torchwood is making a return this summer! :)
That's the thing.  Not all the Doctor's are very clever.  I honestly think out of all the newest ones he really is closest to the style of Doctor I enjoy and grew up with.  Tom Baker is probably my favorite though.  I also liked Paul McGann too even though he had only 1 appearance and I haven't heard the Radio drama's he did or the books the Eighth Doctor is in.  You know I never read any of the books to be honest.

I have mixed feelings about Torchwood.  The non-connected stories are good but the arcs I could sort of live with out.

I do like "The Doctors Wife"  I thought that was a fun episode and its nice to see that relationship in a way fleshed out.  I really wish they do some Flashback content to actually show when the Doctor became the Doctor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on June 24, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
X-Files

I know there are a few of you that have watched this show religiously at some point. I'm already into Season 4 and enjoying it, but why do they put the tape "X" on the window? I think I missed that detail somewhere in the earlier season when it was explained.
It's a signal for Mulder's contact(s) to pay him a visit. It's discreet enough to not draw attention to those out of the loop... or so they think and hope. Think of it like the Bat signal.

Yeah. It's actually much more like the flowerpot that Bob Woodward would place on his porch to signal Mark Felt (the real Deep Throat) to meet with him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on June 25, 2011, 02:42:48 AM
I've actually been kind of disappointed with the series since Moffat took over. He's created some of my favorite episodes throughout the newer series though, so I'm hesitant to lay all of the blame on his shoulders. Still, the Eleventh Doctor never seems quite as clever or observant as he should be. I'm glad that they've toned down the use of the sonic screwdriver, but other than that the bad has outweighed the good for the past one and half seasons. The current season in particular has been ridiculously predictable, running heavily through the meta-plot while ignoring better side stories (like The Doctor's Wife). Then you have other questionable changes, like the "upgraded" Daleks. Still, it's worth watching. I no longer expect it to go anywhere surprising however, which saddens me.

On a brighter note, I hear that Torchwood is making a return this summer! :)

I couldn't disagree with you more.  I think the last two seasons of Doctor Who have absolutely blown away the other recent seasons.  The writing is head and shoulders above what it was before, Doctor Who is fun again, and the cheese factor has thankfully been cut way down.
Time travel is now sometimes used for more than just going somewhere at the start of the episode.  I especially like how the Doctor and River are traveling in opposite directions.  Everytime they meet the Doctor knows her more and she knows him less.
I really like that there are new bad guys too.  The Silence was an excellent and creepy idea.  I am sick of seeing the same bad guys again and again.  It's unfortunate they have to put the Daleks in each season because of the rights holder.

Predictable? You honestly predicted that The real Amy was kidnapped and the Amy we saw was a walking pile goo being controlled from far away?

I recently tried to watch some of the older new Doctor Who episodes again and it was painful.  Chrisopher Eccleston carried the first season so much that I'm surprised the guy can still stand up straight.

Did Torchwood get better?  I watched the first season and really didn't like it.  I couldn't bring myself to keep watching it, especially after everyone was forgiven so easily
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on June 25, 2011, 12:06:43 PM
Predictable? You honestly predicted that The real Amy was kidnapped and the Amy we saw was a walking pile goo being controlled from far away?

Yes. The second time that the woman mysteriously peaked through the door-slot, I called it. Obviously, I was unable to concluded the exact nature of her copy until they introduced the concept of the Gangers. I have a reputation for figuring out plots very quickly. A lot of people won't watch films with me because of it, while others think it's entertaining to ask what I think at every plot point. I assume it comes from being a writer myself, but can't say for sure.

Now don't get me wrong. There's plenty to like about the last two and half seasons and I certainly wouldn't try to sway anyone from watching them. But there are so many absolutely glaring flaws that I can't see it going anywhere but down if it stays the course. I honestly hope that's not the case though.

I liked Torchwood overall. It's not Doctor Who, so you shouldn't go into it expecting that. The Children of the Earth mini-series (season 3) was particularly good, I thought.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 25, 2011, 10:12:03 PM
The Children of the Earth mini-series (season 3) was particularly good, I thought.

Even the ending? You didn't feel like punching the **** out of Captain Jack Harkness?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on June 25, 2011, 10:53:03 PM
You mean when he sacrificed his grandson to save the entire prepubescent population of the planet? As I recall, Harkness had to make a few tough calls throughout that story arc. Jack has always walked the line between hero and villain (remember his first appearance on Doctor Who?). The finale wasn't too far out of line with what we had already been presented, and kept in tone with the series as a whole. It's nice to see media that doesn't just magically end with smiles and rainbows. Life sucks, and sometimes even entertainment needs to acknowledge that to a degree.

The best thing about Children of the Earth? No goddamn Owen Harper! ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 25, 2011, 11:03:07 PM
Jack has always walked the line between hero and villain (remember his first appearance on Doctor Who?)

The best thing about Children of the Earth? No goddamn Owen Harper! ;)

I haven't watched any episodes of the modern Doctor Who. I remember watching an episode or two of Doctor Who in the late 80s, but I was too young to understand such randomness.

Yeah, Harper wasn't that much of a likable character to begin with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 25, 2011, 11:07:56 PM
I actually figured we were watching Amy's Dream in all the episodes till it was revealed she was Goo. I never actually thought she was back.  It wasn't very Dr. Who like so I can't say I was super super suprised. I was more confused about the babyswapping in and out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 26, 2011, 09:29:11 AM
Been watching through Reaper.  I haven't finished it yet but I've seen enough to know that I would probaly murder Andy of I was Sam.  That is a one way Dysfunctional relationship.  Something always wrong for Andy.  I personally would prefer the Crazy Lady he was dating.  She was cute and bursty Crazy instead of always Crazy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 26, 2011, 12:45:03 PM
I finally got around to finishing Soul Eater, and it's yet another Shounen series with a lot of build-up towards the end but a mediocre ending.  There are numerous character threads that don't feel tied-up satisfactorily (we never even see Maka's mother, and Crona never does give Medusa a well-deserved "I AM A MAN! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0qcXjMQyWk)" punch), and the main villain is literally taken out with the Power of Love (TM) and Deus Ex Machina.  Meh.  At least the build-up to the ending had some great and insane moments, and Soul Eater managed to stick to its comedy roots a lot better than its contemporaries like Bleach (a show that has completely gone off the deep end and looks like it'll never recover).  It's a shame that so few anime series know how to end well, though at least Soul Eater knew to end when it was still a good show, which once again is more than I can say for its contemporaries like Bleach and whatnot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 26, 2011, 08:54:34 PM
Remember how the first Full Metal Alchemist anime wasn't faithful to the manga? It's the same with Soul Eater.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 26, 2011, 08:56:31 PM
Remember how the first Full Metal Alchemist anime wasn't faithful to the manga? It's the same with Soul Eater.

Yes, but in the case of Fullmetal Alchemist, we got a better anime the first time around than the manga (and the subsequent anime series that's a panel-for-panel translation of the manga).   ;)   Not having the manga to go by is no excuse for bad/lame writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on June 26, 2011, 09:01:36 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 26, 2011, 09:39:36 PM
So I just finished Trains-Formers (http://www.trains-formers.com/index.html)  It reminds me a lot of Cars 2 :P:  Seriously though its really 2 Flash animations made for a sons different birthdays.  Its What happens when you combine Thomas the Tank Engine with Transformers and it breaks the 4th Wall.  Its funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sundoulos on June 26, 2011, 09:44:46 PM
Remember how the first Full Metal Alchemist anime wasn't faithful to the manga? It's the same with Soul Eater.

Yes, but in the case of Fullmetal Alchemist, we got a better anime the first time around than the manga (and the subsequent anime series that's a panel-for-panel translation of the manga).   ;)   Not having the manga to go by is no excuse for bad/lame writing.

You know, I actually liked the second series better. 

My wife and I have been having a marathon of Psych via Netflix.  I didn't like it for the first few episodes, but the comedy really seemed to hit its stride by the end of the first season.   We're almost to the end of season 2. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 27, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
Remember how the first Full Metal Alchemist anime wasn't faithful to the manga? It's the same with Soul Eater.

Yes, but in the case of Fullmetal Alchemist, we got a better anime the first time around than the manga (and the subsequent anime series that's a panel-for-panel translation of the manga).   ;)   Not having the manga to go by is no excuse for bad/lame writing.

You know, I actually liked the second series better. 

Yeah, I can understand that.  So do a lot of people, mainly due to the improved animation and all the action sequences.  My issue with Brotherhood is that it feels like nothing but action sequences, which makes it feel soul-less and uninspired.  It plays out like every other shounen action series:  Horrible pacing issues?  Check.  Characters running around in circles for episode upon episode not really advancing the plot and constantly repeating things the audience already knows?  Check.  Battle sequences that span 2-3 episodes without anything of consequence actually happening?  Check.  Characters artificially acting like morons to extend the length of the series?  Check.

The first Fullmetal Alchemist had its issues and its fight scenes are nowhere near as well-choreographed than those in Brotherhood, but I actually cared about the events and characters in it (plus, the first series had a better origin for the Homunculi).  Brotherhood just feels to me like it's going through the motions of adapting panel-by-panel the original manga.  Even uninspired Fullmetal Alchemist is better than most anime out there, though.  I still have 13 episodes to go to finish Brotherhood, so I'll see how I feel about the series then, but for now the first series is the one with heart and I'll take that anytime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 27, 2011, 11:36:06 PM
Yeah their are some things that work a lot better in Manga and a week by week format.  Like Dragon Ball Z is a better Manga then show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 30, 2011, 12:51:18 PM
First episode of the new season of Chuck, so far so good, it looks like they finally got most of the budget back after being cut off last season that almost staved the show to death.

I like the new season of Doctor Who, especially now that all the characters are finally properly established and free of David's shadow. Opened strong But I hate the two part Ganger episodes. So stretched out, boring filler that could have been just one episode. I fell asleep watching one of them. I have no trouble dumping those on the bottom of any list.

The episode after that is fantastic, but **** those two episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 30, 2011, 12:56:07 PM
First episode of the new season of Chuck, so far so good, it looks like they finally got most of the budget back after being cut off last season that almost staved the show to death.

I like the new season of Doctor Who, especially now that all the characters are finally properly established and free of David's shadow. Opened strong But I hate the two part Ganger episodes. So stretched out, boring filler that could have been just one episode. I fell asleep watching one of them. I have no trouble dumping those on the bottom of any list.

The episode after that is fantastic, but **** those two episodes.
Historically Doctor who was always multi-part episodes.  The new one is the first to really shorten it, like the later season of JLU.
I didn't realize the new season of Chuck was starting.  I thought that was August.  I'll have to watch that tomorrow.  I'm going to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. (http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: apdude on June 30, 2011, 01:09:14 PM
I'm going to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. (http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)

They tape the show on a Thursday?  Why did I think they performed that live on the weekends, then again it does sound like it gets edited.  I wonder if they involve the audience more live then they do on the radio.  Sounds like fun though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 30, 2011, 01:15:13 PM
I'm going to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. (http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)

They tape the show on a Thursday?  Why did I think they performed that live on the weekends, then again it does sound like it gets edited.  I wonder if they involve the audience more live then they do on the radio.  Sounds like fun though.
OMG someone knows what I'm talking about... Will you be my 3DS friend? Ok, I was going to try to friend you anyways
I thought they did on Saturday as well.  That was part of the reason I was a little mad when WPLN started airing it on Sunday, for 2 hours of Says You... I mean seriously 1 hour is enough of that show.  Their is another quiz show they do I always forget anyways.  I hope they do involve the crowd more.  Also shot out shirts.  Or a hat with the bubble in foam.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 30, 2011, 01:22:46 PM
I am in a time dilation field called New Zealand, so new for me maybe old for you. The first episode of the "new" season contains Linda Hamilton and Chuck coming out of "retirement" after exploding the Buy More.

I have no issue with multiparts or having entire seasons tied to an arc, it's just that those two episodes were absolutely boring, terrible *Add negative adjective* and add almost nothing except establishing the Gangers, something that could have been done in one episode not two.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 30, 2011, 01:40:51 PM
I am in a time dilation field called New Zealand, so new for me maybe old for you. The first episode of the "new" season contains Linda Hamilton and Chuck coming out of "retirement" after exploding the Buy More.

I have no issue with multiparts or having entire seasons tied to an arc, it's just that those two episodes were absolutely boring, terrible *Add negative adjective* and add almost nothing except establishing the Gangers, something that could have been done in one episode not two.
Agreed but, its not really breaking from tradition on a lot of the older episodes. I've been working though them on Netflix  Though with today pacing doing episodes like that one are not nearly tolerated as they use to be.

I will say the same about the newest HP Movie... and the second part isn't even out
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 30, 2011, 03:24:23 PM
I am in a time dilation field called New Zealand, so new for me maybe old for you. The first episode of the "new" season contains Linda Hamilton and Chuck coming out of "retirement" after exploding the Buy More.

I have no issue with multiparts or having entire seasons tied to an arc, it's just that those two episodes were absolutely boring, terrible *Add negative adjective* and add almost nothing except establishing the Gangers, something that could have been done in one episode not two.

YES! But if you watch the entire episode as a setup to what happens at the very end of the second then it becomes a little more tolerable - it doesn't make it a better episode though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: apdude on June 30, 2011, 04:45:22 PM
I'm going to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. (http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)

They tape the show on a Thursday?  Why did I think they performed that live on the weekends, then again it does sound like it gets edited.  I wonder if they involve the audience more live then they do on the radio.  Sounds like fun though.
OMG someone knows what I'm talking about... Will you be my 3DS friend? Ok, I was going to try to friend you anyways
I thought they did on Saturday as well.  That was part of the reason I was a little mad when WPLN started airing it on Sunday, for 2 hours of Says You... I mean seriously 1 hour is enough of that show.  Their is another quiz show they do I always forget anyways.  I hope they do involve the crowd more.  Also shot out shirts.  Or a hat with the bubble in foam.

Yeah I listen to NPR a lot.  Wait Wait is the only thing on NPR my girlfriend will allow me to listen to while she is in the car.  We only have 1hr of Says You on KQED and agree that would get old over 2hrs, but I only catch that one every once in while anyway. 
 
I'd like to hear how the live show is so I know if I should try to catch it if/when it comes to town.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on June 30, 2011, 04:47:37 PM
I'm going to Wait Wait Don't Tell Me tonight. (http://www.npr.org/programs/wait-wait-dont-tell-me/)

They tape the show on a Thursday?  Why did I think they performed that live on the weekends, then again it does sound like it gets edited.  I wonder if they involve the audience more live then they do on the radio.  Sounds like fun though.
OMG someone knows what I'm talking about... Will you be my 3DS friend? Ok, I was going to try to friend you anyways
I thought they did on Saturday as well.  That was part of the reason I was a little mad when WPLN started airing it on Sunday, for 2 hours of Says You... I mean seriously 1 hour is enough of that show.  Their is another quiz show they do I always forget anyways.  I hope they do involve the crowd more.  Also shot out shirts.  Or a hat with the bubble in foam.

Yeah I listen to NPR a lot.  Wait Wait is the only thing on NPR my girlfriend will allow me to listen to while she is in the car.  We only have 1hr of Says You on KQED and agree that would get old over 2hrs, but I only catch that one every once in while anyway. 
 
I'd like to hear how the live show is so I know if I should try to catch it if/when it comes to town.
Will do.

For my wife it's Car Talk.  It was a struggle to get her to even come to this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 03, 2011, 03:55:47 AM
Still loving "How I Met Your Mother."

Still irritated by the script calling for commentary on Robin's bosom surprisingly often, because she doesn't HAVE one. Every time somebody brings it up ("Robin, stop puffing out your breasts!") my wife and I say, together, "WHAT BREASTS?" It's like the writers have never seen the woman who was cast in that role.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 05, 2011, 10:05:47 AM
Still loving "How I Met Your Mother."

Still irritated by the script calling for commentary on Robin's bosom surprisingly often, because she doesn't HAVE one. Every time somebody brings it up ("Robin, stop puffing out your breasts!") my wife and I say, together, "WHAT BREASTS?" It's like the writers have never seen the woman who was cast in that role.
You can see her boobs.  That may actually be the joke because their not large but shes not totally flat..  I just don't remember that many reference.  Yesterday I watched the Lemon Law episode, Skanky Pumpkin, Cock-a-mouse, and Lily Stabbed by a Sword one.  (My Wife is watching through these so I catch some.  Even though I think I've seen most.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 05, 2011, 10:31:56 AM
The one and only problem I have with HIMYM is that I hate Ted. He is not funny unlikable asshole like the folks over at It's Always Sunny, but he is a weak pissant whiney douche who has the world going for him more often than not and he still complains. Everybody else is awesome though and I would marry Robin in a heartbeat, that is some near perfection going on there and for bonus points, a Canadian.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 05, 2011, 10:35:30 AM
I have watched about 15 minutes of this show and it was completely unbearable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 05, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
I have watched about 15 minutes of this show and it was completely unbearable.

^THIS

Anything with a laugh track is already shitty (except for Seinfeld), but this show seems so overly scripted that there is no natural flow to it. It's terrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 05, 2011, 08:07:24 PM
I've always liked Jason Segal, so I was pretty disappointed to see that his hit show was so devoid of laughs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 05, 2011, 08:26:16 PM
It was because of him and NPH that I even checked out the show. It really is disappointing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 05, 2011, 08:48:54 PM
Perversion of Justice - 0/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 07, 2011, 06:04:40 PM
Falling Skies:
I'm not going to assign this a numbered rating because I've only seen the season premiere, and I can't yet tell if I like it enough to keep watching.

The premise is interesting, the acting is surprisingly good, and production value is good but still TV grade special effects. There were some real 'human' momentas that connected you to the characters and what they're going through, the story progressed nicely, though it felt slightly forced, and character development was pretty decent as well. However, a lot of characters acted out of character (and this just within the two episode season premier) and that annoyed me to the point where all those good things about the show went out the window. If they stay consistent with the characters being inconsistent, or  don't randomly change their feelings again, I think I'll like this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 10, 2011, 09:05:13 PM
I'm not sure why I bother sometimes, but I just finished watching the anime High School of the Dead and it is...utter gutter trash.  Sure, the show starts out decently enough with your run-of-the-mill zombie (though strangely no one calls them that) apocalypse and people running around and dying as several kids struggle to stay alive.  There was a little bit of fanservice here and there (this show loves its panty and breast shots), but the show was a bit of a guilty pleasure for at least not trying to hide what it was and having a bit of fun in the process.  And then at Episode 6 of this 12 episode series, the creators decided it was time to turn this zombie apocalypse into something very close to a softcore porno (naturally, none of the girls have proportions even approaching believable, even by anime standards).  And from that disastrous episode onwards, the show makes some stabs to return to its "dumb fun" roots but never really recovers.  And because the manga is still ongoing, the show just stops at episode 12 without anything approaching an ending.  That this show is a major new anime release makes me sad for the medium.

On the upside, there is a gun otaku/nerd in the show that is an utter badass.  I never got tired of watching him kick ass from the moment he managed to craft an assault rifle from a nail gun and some classroom materials. So at least there's one bright side to this series.  :D

That show left such a bad taste after finishing it that I'm going back and rewatching some older anime from the late 90s/early 2000s before moe nearly destroyed the art form, starting with a show that recently was re-released on Blu-Ray: Samurai Champloo.  I'm a couple of episodes in; I haven't seen this show in well over 5 years; and I was never its biggest fan, but watching it now it just seems so fresh and interesting with an energy you just don't see in modern shows.  Man...what happened to anime after this late 90s/early 2000s renaissance, where it felt like there was so much experimentation/quality storytelling in anime?  Vision of Escaflowne; The Big O; Trigun; Samurai Champloo; Outlaw Star; Cowboy Bebop; Gundam 8th MS Team etc.?  I don't want to come off as the relative old guy here lamenting that things today aren't "as good as in my day", but they certainly aren't outside of a rare show or two.

And by the way, if you've been wondering if it's worth it to get the Blu-Ray release, I'd say it's probably not if you already have the DVDs.  The colors are a bit faded and the picture quality is fuzzy by modern standards.  It's not a fault of the show itself, but this is an HD upscale for a standard definition show and it looks every bit of it.  If you don't already own the series, though, it's still a fine release for what was possible with a show made in the early 2000s.  I'm actually pleasantly surprised that the show is in widescreen, because I'd forgotten that and most anime didn't go widescreen until several years later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on July 10, 2011, 10:15:07 PM
Highschool of the Dead was pretty mediocre. The animation was a lot more fluid than most anime I see though. I thought that the entire thing was brought down by the ridiculous amount of fanservice peppered throughout every episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 10, 2011, 10:24:02 PM
Highschool of the Dead was pretty mediocre. The animation was a lot more fluid than most anime I see though. I thought that the entire thing was brought down by the ridiculous amount of fanservice peppered throughout every episode.

Eh, I found the animation pretty hit-or-miss the whole series.  While it was pretty decent for most of the series (I don't recall ever seeing panned still frames, for instance) and occasionally showed the excellence I regularly expect from a revered studio like Madhouse, I saw the characters go off-model (Rei is a frequent offender) in several episodes and there's an awful lot of scenes where only characters' mouths are (slightly) moving.  Overall, I'd say it was competent, but I'm seeing way more consistent and fluid animation in Champloo right now and I expect a lot more from the studio that made Death Note and is supposedly working on Hellsing Ultimate.

The thing about fanservice is that I don't have a huge problem with it so long as it's kept to a minimum and tastefully executed.  I can enjoy a good harem or slice-of-life series every once in a while that occasionally uses it, my favorite being "Ah!  My Goddess!" (which, incidentally, is one of the most tame and sweet series of its genre ever created).  Modern anime just doesn't seem to know how not to cross the line into creepy and pedophilic, and I blame that on the creepy Japanese otaku the industry is a slave to right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 10, 2011, 10:26:45 PM
Renaissances end, simple as that. You are not alone in your disdain for the quality of current anime, it's bad enough that I regret even given a copy of Gundam 00 - The definition of a gold plated turd. There are a couple of things I have/want to see, but they are few and far between compared to 10 years ago and they are mostly sequels and remakes from that period(Slayers, Evangelion remakes, Gunslinger Girls, sequal to Kite).

Ahh, Samurai Champloo, a bloody good show. The original is a hair fuzzy, not something that can be helped even if the show is heavy with digital models like Area 88(2005) given the limitations of SD resolutions espically if you want more details. Favorite episode has to be 23:Baseball Blues, something that finally makes that drab game inteeresting.

Smallville Final Season 10. Simply put, it is the Superman that fans of the show from the beginning were waiting for and finally the Superman everybody else knows and loves. It's also sad since while everyone finally got what they wanted, it ends here. They also killed my favorite character Tess. Any word that there is a sequal to this?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on July 11, 2011, 03:19:58 AM
I haven't watched much anime in a while.  So much is based on manga but butchers the pacing, development, sometimes the story itself, and is full of filler episodes.
I've read the begining of Highschool of the Dead and one of the chapters had straight up tits, no steam, no fog, no shadows, so the anime has probably toned down the fanservice.

The last anime I did see was Baccano! and I definitely recommend it to anyone who hasn't seen it.  The first couple episodes are a little awkward because of the non-linear story telling but it is one of my favorite animes.  A ton of great characters, and a very intersting premise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on July 11, 2011, 10:22:49 AM
Eh, I found the animation pretty hit-or-miss the whole series.

I probably don't watch enough anime. I watch a lot of animated films (which usually do look awesome), but generally don't get into many series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 12, 2011, 12:36:08 AM
Well, I've finished Samurai Champloo, and I'm glad I gave this series another chance because I really didn't care for it all that much back when I originally saw it.  I think back then, this show was really trapped in the shadow of its spiritual predecessor: Cowboy Bebop, a standard it never did and never could measure up against.  Watching it now after so many years have passed, I think I can enjoy it more on its own merits...with some caveats.  Like Bebop, comedy episodes and adventure-y episodes work great as the show continually throws the main trio into various situations, playing their personalities against each other for maximum effect. Unlike Bebop, though, when the series tries to be overly dramatic it just doesn't work because the writers have the cast separate, and I'm sorry but these characters just aren't interesting enough to carry some of the more substandard stories by themselves.  And while there are some really cool sequences in certain episodes, I don't think the writers allowed themselves to really let loose enough.  There's a certain restrained insanity that fueled Bebop that this show tries to emulate with its hip-hop/samurai mixture, but it just doesn't go far enough in most episodes to carry some of these stories.  How do you manage to have a boring zombie episode, for example?   :Q   And I'd forgotten just how pessimistic and depressing so many of these episodes can be, which didn't help me care about their stories when they weren't supported with comedy episodes between them.

On the upside, I remembered the ending being a lot more boring and depressing than it really was (I came away much more satisfied this time); the dub is still excellent for its time; and when it works the show is just cool in a similar way to how Bebop often was.  The music's excellent as well, especially the very relaxing ending credits theme (which is something very, very few anime get right).  Unfortunately, I don't know if this is just how the dub was made or if it's a problem with the Blu-Ray transfer, but the English audio mix on this Blu-Ray re-release is kind of messed-up.  The audio levels jump all over the place in this show, with some scenes being extremely quiet only to gradually grow louder, and some vice-versa.  At first, I though it was my TV or PS3 doing stuff in the background to equalize the sound so I made sure all those options were disabled, but I still heard it to some extent.

Overall, Champloo's better than I remember it with a good style and (when the writers decide to unleash it) a good sense of fun, but it's held back by some really dull writing in sections and stories that just aren't that interesting.

Started watching Trigun on my old Geneon Tin-pack DVD re-releases, and man I'd forgotten how genuinely funny this show is in its first half.  It's amusing hearing how fresh and lively Jonny Yong Bosche sounded before he became the Nolan North of the anime dubbing industry.  I'm sorry, though, Madhouse...I know how much work you put into this show's animation, but this show always has and always will look like crap with its extremely faded color palette.  With colors this bleached, the show looks a good 10 years older than it actually is.  It reminds me of how the original Evangelion TV series looked before that show got a total color restoration to actually look like it was made in the mid-90s.  Perhaps the show's creators wanted it to look like that, though, because looking at the trailers for the upcoming Trigun: Badlands Rumble revival movie you can still see some of that bleached color palette.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 12, 2011, 09:28:34 AM
On Trigun I think how it looks is really a slight callback to the Spaghetti Westerns that had to influence part of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: apdude on July 13, 2011, 04:39:52 PM
Anybody watching Wilfred?  It's pretty funny.  I guess it's based on an Australian show.  I don't know how long they can run with it since the premise of the show is a bit of a stretch, but its definitely worth viewing.  I think it's on hulu as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 18, 2011, 07:58:49 PM
Falling Skies: 8/10 Okay so after 4 episodes, this is getting pretty good. The plot is thickening with wonder, and the characters are becoming more endearing with each episode. The changes I complained about in the first episode have been maintained through the others and it works well.

Curb Your Enthusiasm Season 6: 7/10 so far. The first episode was freaking hilarious, but the second was a little disappointing. Usually happens, so I'm just glad this show is back on the air and can't wait for more Cheryl episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 18, 2011, 08:09:24 PM
You like Cheryl? I have no idea what she adds to the show, other than making David chase her. She's almost completely useless. I'm glad Leon is getting more lines because he's hysterical. The line about how that stripper was communicating with her body. “Those titties can talk. Those titties are a blabbermouth.” Genius.

But you're right. The first episode was better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 18, 2011, 08:11:23 PM
She herself doesn't bring much to the table, but Larry's interactions with her are the funniest. And yeah, Leon is great, he pretty much saved the second episode for me, that and the whole spousal abuse thing and the guy watching the laptop.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 18, 2011, 09:20:21 PM
Curb Season 6 is probably my favorite season, solely because of Leon. As for Cheryl, well, you have to have some sort of "straight man".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 19, 2011, 10:23:56 PM
Finished Trigun, and yeah it's still a fantastic series, though I am a little less fond of the writing in the standalone stories now than I was when I first watched the series.  Vash the Stampede and Wolfwood are still two of the best-realized characters in anime IMO, and the animation is better than I remembered (though I still think the series would have looked much better if the colors were richer than they were).  Next up, I think I'm going to go back and re-watch one of the more "fun" series in my collection (and likely one none of you have actually seen): the original Gatekeepers anime, a series so unbelievably (but intentionally) goofy that it's hard not to have a good time with.  I may re-watch its anime companion in crime as well: Vandread.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 19, 2011, 10:30:11 PM
I need to watch Gatekeepers I watched/have the others.

Just finished watching wants on Netflix of Avenger: Earth's Mightiest Heroes  Believe that is right.  I really enjoyed it.  The writers did a very good job of tieing every episode in together.  Their would be items that happened in earlier episodes that would be reflected in later.  Their be slight teaser of the things to come that were organically part of the end.  Really well done series.  Actually remind me on how well Iron man Armored adventures first season was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 19, 2011, 10:33:57 PM
I need to watch Gatekeepers I watched/have the others.

Just finished watching wants on Netflix of Avenger: Worlds Greatest Heroes  Believe that is right.  I really enjoyed it.  The writers did a very good job of tieing every episode in together.  Their would be items that happened in earlier episodes that would be reflected in later.  Their be slight teaser of the things to come that were organically part of the end.  Really well done series.  Actually remind me on how well Iron man Armored adventures first season was.

Just so you know, Iron man: Armored Adventures is airing its second season right now.  They just started last Wednesday at 8:30 PM EST on Nickelodeon.

And yeah, while I was very lukewarm on Avengers: EMH at the outset, it gradually grew to be a really entertaining animated series.  Amusingly, its DC counterpart, Young Justice, got off on shaky footing; lasted for only 9 episodes; and then went on hiatus until next year.  -_-'
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 19, 2011, 10:37:29 PM
I need to watch Gatekeepers I watched/have the others.

Just finished watching wants on Netflix of Avenger: Worlds Greatest Heroes  Believe that is right.  I really enjoyed it.  The writers did a very good job of tieing every episode in together.  Their would be items that happened in earlier episodes that would be reflected in later.  Their be slight teaser of the things to come that were organically part of the end.  Really well done series.  Actually remind me on how well Iron man Armored adventures first season was.

Just so you know, Iron man: Armored Adventures is airing its second season right now.  They just started last Wednesday at 8:30 PM EST on Nickelodeon.

And yeah, while I was very lukewarm on Avengers: EMH at the outset, it gradually grew to be a really entertaining animated series.  Amusingly, its DC counterpart, Young Justice, got off on shaky footing; lasted for only 9 episodes; and then went on hiatus until next year.  -_-'
But you can just go back and Watch Justice League, Batman: The Animated Series, Batman Beyond, etc for DC.  They had a good run relatively recently.  Spectacular Spider-Man was good on Marvel side.  Iron Man... But I really can't think of anything else more recently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 19, 2011, 10:47:12 PM
They just started last Wednesday at 8:30 PM EST on Nickelodeon.

Minor correction: it airs on Nicktoons, not Nickelodeon (two different channels, I get Nickelodeon only). I don't like the whole idea of the new Iron Man cartoon because it doesn't fit into the Iron Man character at all (at least some superheroes like Spider-Man and Superman actually had their powers as a teen).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 19, 2011, 10:49:00 PM
They just started last Wednesday at 8:30 PM EST on Nickelodeon.

Minor correction: it airs on Nicktoons, not Nickelodeon (two different channels, I get Nickelodeon only). I don't like the whole idea of the new Iron Man cartoon because it doesn't fit into the Iron Man character at all (at least some superheroes like Spider-Man and Superman actually had their powers as a teen).

Wow, those are two separate channels now?  Man, I remember when "Nick Toons" were just cartoons that ran on Nickelodeon...Well, I hope that the new Avatar: Last Airbender series doesn't air on Nicktoons as well, then, because I don't think I get that channel either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 19, 2011, 10:54:15 PM
Well, the cartoons on Nickelodeon are still called Nicktoons, but it's also its own channel now. The Nicktoons channel is all cartoons and includes one of my favorite Nickelodeon shows (Rocko's Modern Life). Dragon Ball Z Kai also airs on it.

Brood, right now the plan is for The Last Airbender: Legend of Korra to air on Nickelodeon first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 20, 2011, 09:42:30 AM
They just started last Wednesday at 8:30 PM EST on Nickelodeon.

Minor correction: it airs on Nicktoons, not Nickelodeon (two different channels, I get Nickelodeon only). I don't like the whole idea of the new Iron Man cartoon because it doesn't fit into the Iron Man character at all (at least some superheroes like Spider-Man and Superman actually had their powers as a teen).
I was with you when I started watching the series with my son but, with how young he is its more appropriate and the side-stories after the first few starts to grow on you.  The main story is still hokey.  After watching the full first season, its still Iron Man just minus the Pre-Iron man adult phase that gives him his edgy adult problems that you couldn't explore in a show geared to a non-adult demographic anyways.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 22, 2011, 03:41:14 AM
I finished Gatekeepers, and to my delight the show still holds up remarkably well, though there are certainly a few episodes in the 24-episode series that just don't work.  This show hails from what I consider the Golden Age of Gonzo animation, back when Gonzo was known for excellent animation (including surprisingly good 3D model integration), as well as taking familiar concepts and putting their own unique spin on them.  Gatekeepers has a really simple premise: a bunch of kids with superpowers (which are triggered by opening portals to other dimensions known as "gates") band together to destroy the assholes of the world, who in turn can throw on goofy Black Sunglasses to turn into alien Men-in-Black.  Naturally, these Men-in-Black can fuse together to form such intimidating forms as giant balls, evil Big Boy statues, chunks of freeway, giant Japanese lanterns, 50-foot werewolves, etc.  And did I forget the giant mecha controlled via car steering wheels, stick-shifts, and gas pedals?  Perhaps I forgot the 1950s B-Movie Big-headed Alien and Alien Nazi who goes around shouting "Hail Vader!"

Yeah, this is one goofy series, and I've barely even touched on the sheer amount of awesome silliness in it.  This show is just pure fun: stupid, silly, intentionally cheesy, hopelessly optimistic fun.  It's a show that very carefully straddles the line between being a fairly sincere "Sailor Moon"-esque series and being an outright parody of it (in much the same way that Martian Successor Nadesico and Vandread play off of the Space Odyssey genre), and it's a show that's often willing to make fun of itself if there's a good laugh to be had (and there are good laughs to be had).  The cast is enjoyable, the (excellent) dub has probably every notable English voice actor in 90s/early 2000s anime, the animation has (for the most part) aged very well, and the story does a pretty decent job of balancing between plot-important episodes and stand-alones as it heads towards a better conclusion than most anime get these days.  It's not a show for everyone, as you're either going to love the optimistic and bombastic (but sincere) style the show is going for or you aren't.  I could nit-pick it to death by harping on the shallow characters, the occasional terrible writing, and all the repeated stock footage/music cues, but honestly this show isn't about any "deeper meaning" or "complex characters".  It's about having fun, and I don't see the point in criticizing it for what it's clearly not trying to be.  I highly recommend the show for the experience it is, especially if you liked some of the other shows I named and anime like Godannar; Gravion; and Gurren Lagann.

The show has long since been out of print on DVD (and I doubt that Funimation will license-rescue it), but I know Netflix carries it and here's a streaming link (http://www.dubzonline.com/watch/gate-keepers/) from a site with the dub if you want to check it out.

A word of warning, though: this show did get a sequel OVA series named Gatekeepers 21, and I HIGHLY suggest you avoid it like the plague.  It is an evil, hateful series that goes out of its way to destroy anything you may have liked about the first series.  I have only seen one other P.o.S. anime sequel that matches it in sheer loathing for its source material, and that's the Martian Successor Nadesico movie Prince of Darkness.  If you've seen that, you might understand what I mean: excessively dark, depressing, takes glee in the wanton character assassination of beloved characters, betrays core concepts of the original show, etc.

So, I guess it's Vandread next.  That should be fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 24, 2011, 03:15:23 PM
Wilfred: 8/10
Funny as hell while keeping a deep meaning.
I decided to watch this show based on recommendations in this thread (maybe only one but I'm on my phone and don't feel like looking) and I'm glad I did. There were two episodes out of five that weren't all that funny, but the 'lesson' of the show carried it through. This is definitely a show to check out. It's kind of Donnie Darko meets Yes Man, and it works great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2011, 03:39:19 PM
Wilfred: 8/10
Funny as hell while keeping a deep meaning.
I decided to watch this show based on recommendations in this thread (maybe only one but I'm on my phone and don't feel like looking) and I'm glad I did. There were two episodes out of five that weren't all that funny, but the 'lesson' of the show carried it through. This is definitely a show to check out. It's kind of Donnie Darko meets Yes Man, and it works great.

I was recommended this show the other day. But I was told to just wait till the season was over and just marathon it instead.
It was a glowing recommendation though, so it's been moved onto my watch list
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 24, 2011, 04:48:06 PM
Yeah, I've watched a couple of episodes of a trio of "Siffy" shows lately: Alphas, Warehouse 13, and Eureka.  I've also watched one episode of Haven (first season).

Alphas is...ok as far as "Heroes"-esque shows go, but there's just something about the show that hasn't really clicked with me yet.  Maybe it's the various Alphas not being all that likeable and their powers being portrayed in less-than-impressive ways.  The show feels kind of like if the X-Men kind of...sucked.  It did improve greatly in its second episode, though.  I do wish that TV networks would stop trying to do superpower shows in Live-Action, as IMO you just can't portray larger-than-life stuff like that well in Live Action.  That's what we have animation for.

Warehouse 13 definitely hit the ground running, and it's off to a good start.  The new "Jinx" character adds a nice dimension to the show, and Pete is a lot less annoying than he has been in previous seasons.  Claudia and Artie continue to be very fun to watch, and the writing's going for much more of a serialized feeling this season than in previous ones.  The artifacts have been pretty cool so far, though I'm annoyed given Eureka's love for it that it took Warehouse 13 only 2 episodes to do a "watch the cast act weird!" episode.

Eureka is...well...more Eureka.  It's funny in places, the cast has good chemistry, but the show just doesn't have that spark to it I really enjoyed in earlier seasons.  Maybe the show slowly going more serialized will help that.  I could have done without the Sci-Fi patented "two guys get trapped in a deadly space" story in the season premiere, as well as Eureka's seeming obsession with "ticking clock" episodes.

Haven's pilot feels like Eureka if it were less interesting and the characters had less personality.  It's CSI Alan Wake, and I'll have to see if that works better as the show goes on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on July 24, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
I haven't seen Alphas but I have to agree on the live action superheroes stuff.  One of the things I hated about Heroes was that they never showed us anything.  Despite characters like Sylar having crazy powers they would use 1 constantly because it was easy to show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 25, 2011, 01:52:07 AM
I haven't seen the Alphas either, here being the first place I even heard of it, but live action isn't a complete wash. No Ordinary Family was quite good at showing the fights. Most of the fights were pretty good, nice and destructive. Too bad everyone on that show were one flavor of retarded or another. Super Brain my ass.

They were showing Warehouse 13 here a while back, but suddenly stopped mid season 2. It was pretty alright, surprising since to tagged itself as a SYFY "Original", you know with SYFY not doing SciFi anymore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2011, 01:58:01 AM
Alphas was interesting.
I really didn't think I was gonna like the EMF guy, but his character traits became less annoying and more humorous in the 2nd episode.

Eureka has been great since it's return. I agree that it's not quite the same as it was in the first 2 seasons, but it's still good and very enjoyable for most episodes. The timeline storyline was a great way to sort of reboot some of the story and keep the show from getting stale.

Haven is extremely boring. At least it was for the first 3-4 episodes. I stopped forcing myself to give another chance at that point. I'm not sure how it made it to a second season.

I don't watch Warehouse13, so I can't comment on that.

I can say that True Blood has been very off so far this season. But I haven't watched tonites episode yet. Episode 1-4 keep leaving off at a point where you think it's gonna be real good in the next episode, but then it's not. It's not always bad, but it's far less interesting than you thought it would be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2011, 05:11:18 PM
I watched the first episode of Wilfred..... LOL WTF

There was some humor, but I can only imagine the amount of drugs that were consumed when this show was thought up, written, presented, green-lit, produced and then aired. I started the 2nd episode too, but it was somewhere past 3am in the morning, so I fell asleep. I think it's a pretty safe bet that I will be caught up before morning of tomorrow.

This show makes me think of that Married with Children knock off with Nicki Cox and Greg the Bunny, only there are no puppets this time around. Just a sad man whose new best friend is the neighbors dog.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 25, 2011, 06:11:21 PM
Lol Mr. Floppy. I had completely forgotten about Unhappily Ever After.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 25, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
It's a minor thing, but it's really starting to bug me how Siffy (yes, I know how it's "supposed" to be spelled, but I'm not acknowledging that "Poor Literacy is Kewl") seems to have banned opening credits from their shows.  Warehouse 13 had a really fun and unique opening sequence, and starting this season it looks like it's gone for good.  Eureka's was removed last season, too and I really haven't seen a noticeable increase in content to compensate for the 1.5 minutes "saved" by removing the credits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on July 25, 2011, 09:33:13 PM
I think the timeskip has made things a bit wonky in True Blood BnM.  I like the Eric and Bill stuff but the other plots that just seemed to appear over the last six months like the ghost baby/doll and Sam's big group of other shifters he somehow met after years of knowing no others is weird.

I think they should take away one of the plotlines, at least temporarily, so they don't need to jump around so much and make some of the slower moving stories go faster.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 27, 2011, 09:49:00 AM
Torchwood: Miracle Day.

I'm struggling to like it. For a show set and based in Wales the whole thing is set in the USA. That itself is fine given how Doctor Who's 2 USA episodes felt very british still except at the same time there is loads of "disconnect" to the universe as a whole, particuarly the Children of Earth season and The Stolen Earth/Journey's End 2-parter, the latter of which overlapped into both Torchwood AND Sarah Jane Adventures. The events of both should have been noticed in the USA given they both affected THE WHOLE WORLD! and yet there's people sounding surprised at the mention of things that couldn't have come from Earth.

The story itself has a lot of interest, although the americanisms keep sucking me out like the big car crashes and explosions and car crashes. It's supposed to be Torchwood not CSI Torchwood.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on July 27, 2011, 11:54:36 AM
I have a feeling that the new setting is strictly a byproduct of Starz taking it over. Even still, I'm liking it so far. It's been slow to get the ball rolling though, with the first two episodes being absolutely nothing other than introductions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 27, 2011, 11:57:46 AM
I have a feeling that the new setting is strictly a byproduct of Starz taking it over. Even still, I'm liking it so far. It's been slow to get the ball rolling though, with the first two episodes being absolutely nothing other than introductions.
I need to find the interview with the creator but its a combination of that and the director actually wanted to move it anyway and Starz gave him an opportunity too.  Felt Britain was a little bit stifle for the show.  I need to watch it.  I've watched all of British Torchwood.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 28, 2011, 12:02:36 AM
I'm all caught up on Wilfred.
Wow.... Stogi, you gotta check this show out if you haven't already. I think you will like it.
Lots of subtle cheap jokes and good one liners

"why don't you go back to where you came from.... over there... where you were before you came over here"

It's nothing that will make you have cramps in your side, but I find it hard to not enjoy as there is a deeper message being delivered in every episode, and that message is being delivered by the neighbors dog.

-------------

Eureka. The last episode was good.


-------------


Breaking Bad s4
Off to a good start picking up exactly where it left off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 28, 2011, 10:04:40 AM
I've seen it. In fact, I think I put up a review in here.

But yes, while the last scenes with them smoking herb and talking are great (especially the hospital episode), I think the best part of the show is when Wilfred instigates frodo, which is alot.

My only qualms with the series is that I do not think it has longevity. How many lessons can frodo learn before we pay him no attention?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 28, 2011, 03:12:37 PM
I have a feeling that the new setting is strictly a byproduct of Starz taking it over. Even still, I'm liking it so far. It's been slow to get the ball rolling though, with the first two episodes being absolutely nothing other than introductions.

Russell T Davies said somewhere (need to find it) that he wanted to film it in the USA but BBC budgetary constraints wouldn't allow for that and needed to partner up with an american network. He backed away from the Fox deal (thank gawd, Fox and Jack Harkness? No way) and said that if it wouldn't work he'd just film it in Wales. Then Starz came along and he got his wish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 28, 2011, 03:29:51 PM
In the Fox Board room

Exec "So Jack is gay"
RTD "No"
Exec "So he's straight"
RTD "No"
Exec "Bi-curious?!"
RTD "No"
Exec "Asexual?!?! TELL ME!!!"
RDT "He is omni-sexual"
Exec *Strokes out*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 28, 2011, 04:58:36 PM
In the Fox Board room

Exec "So Jack is gay"
RTD "No"
Exec "So he's straight"
RTD "No"
Exec "Bi-curious?!"
RTD "No"
Exec "Asexual?!?! TELL ME!!!"
RDT "He is sexual and maybe too Sexual for you"
Exec *Strokes out*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 28, 2011, 10:08:06 PM
My only qualms with the series is that I do not think it has longevity. How many lessons can frodo learn before we pay him no attention?


I'm hoping that in later episodes he's putting into practice the things he learned, but will need reminders, and in the new situations he encounters Wilfred will be a constant reminder of his new choices and lifestyle.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 29, 2011, 02:09:26 AM
Been watching "How I Met Your Mother." Actually, we've seen all the DVD's released now.

The central conceit of the show is getting old. Reveal the damn mother, already. It's otherwise a good show, not great, but Neil Patrick Harris is awesome (loved his "Suit" song) and the rest of the cast, especially Jason Segal, is strong, too. Robin is GORGEOUS but needs to gain some weight and...grow some...you know what I'm gonna say. It's not a show for everybody, but it's definately funny, but in a different way than something like Seinfeld or Modern Family.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 29, 2011, 02:14:58 AM
HIMYM is one of those shows where I can enjoy it if I watch an episode, but it wouldn't bother me if I don't watch the show at all. I haven't even seen a new episode in like 2 years and it doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 29, 2011, 02:20:35 AM
I'm in the same boat as TJ Spyke. It's a decent enough show (and it's certainly the best comedy on CBS, at least until Dave Foley's show premieres in the fall, but that isn't really saying much of anything), but I don't care enough to watch it regularly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on July 29, 2011, 02:35:32 AM
also on the same boat with HIMYM, its a good show, but im not going to go about trying to watch every episode. I'll slowly absorb it through syndication.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 30, 2011, 12:00:51 AM
I had been seeing a bit of a buzz building around a new anime title called Angel Beats!, so I decided to check it out and now I've finished it.  While the series has some serious writing problems and 13 episodes is way too short for a series like this to give proper diligence to a cast this huge, I really enjoyed this series.  The animation is surprisingly good (when it needs to be) considering I've never heard of this animation studio before, the music is excellent (and there is a lot of vocal music in this series), there is a pretty good balance between comedy and drama, and the series has exactly ZERO fanservice of pretty much any kind.  I should also emphasize that this show is legitimately funny, with excellent comic timing.  Quite a few modern anime series could learn from Angel Beats' example that you can get a laugh without the usual fanservice route anime tends to take.

The concept of the show is that these high school kids find themselves dead and in a sort of "high school"-esque purgatory designed more or less for them, where they can feel pain and "die" but revive soon after.  Each had the honor of Fate having handed them pretty lousy and tragic deals in life, so now the kids fight to keep themselves from being "obliterated" from existence (the manner of which this happens being a pretty big spoiler).  Yes, oddly enough this is comedy show, and odder still it actually works that way.  Naturally, over time the kids discover that there's more meaning to this purgatory than they thought, so halfway through the series it changes gears a bit and goes a bit weird and random.  The story ties itself up nicely enough and there are some touching scenes towards the end.  I didn't care much for the ending and the writing can be pretty atrocious, but it did wrap up most of the loose ends and leave plenty of room for decompression and resolution.  In fact, it's probably the only way it could have ended outside of the cliched "IT WAS ALL A DREAM"-style B.S.  I just didn't care for the bittersweet way it goes.  Highly recommended, and I don't often have reason to say that about modern anime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 30, 2011, 10:59:39 AM
Breaking Bad: 5/10

Just didn't entertain me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on July 31, 2011, 06:04:31 AM
your saying the series or just the last 2 episodes?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on July 31, 2011, 11:31:57 AM
I started watching season one, and after four episodes I just couldn't take it anymore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 31, 2011, 01:31:17 PM
You, sir, are a crazy person.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 31, 2011, 01:45:32 PM
You, sir, are a crazy person.

+1
Breaking Bad is one of the best shows on television right now, and that is across all networks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 31, 2011, 02:31:37 PM
Wow. Season one? The first two episodes alone are so great they could've been a movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on July 31, 2011, 05:17:26 PM
also, **** Breaking Bad is one of those shows where the characters change....a lot.

They keep going down a deep hole, and where they are now is the no return point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on July 31, 2011, 05:43:34 PM
ThunderCats episode 1 and 2 were great, and made awesome by hearing and watching once again that famous line that Lion-O said so many times.  I'm definitely going to follow this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 31, 2011, 06:06:58 PM
I didn't like it. The animation style was alright, but I just wasn't feeling it like I did the old series (which I watched on Netflix last year, and watched the episodes Cartoon Network aired last week).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on August 01, 2011, 09:35:14 AM
I went into Breaking Bad with mediocre expectations, and the first episode was good, the second also pretty good, though I wish it would have covered more ground, and then the next two episodes were near pointless and hardly funny all leading to the inevitable execution. It's like those episodes of Dragon Ball Z where Goku spent the whole episode powering up a kamehameha or 3 rising to the new level of super saiyan. One of the great things about Weeds is how quickly things happen, not that I have ADD or can't appreciate a movie like Gone With The Wind (one of my favorites of all time btw), but I just hate when things drag out endlessly and then reach the foregone conclusion. If they could have worked it out with Krazy 8 or killed him accidentally, or something other than the obvious he died trying to defend himself after magically getting an opportunity to get a weapon, it wouldn't have annoyed me as much. It's just too much of the same for me...

As for Thundercats, why did no one tell me this started already? :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 01, 2011, 02:14:29 PM
I also just finished watching the two-part opening to the new Thundercats series, and IMO it's as awesome as the original series is terrible.  The animation is very good, the character and environmental designs are very eye-pleasing, and the writing is very solid.  They took a fairly generic, formulaic 80s action cartoon and turned it into a grand fantasy epic with a big emphasis on world-building.  They also made much needed changes to the cast and world that make this feel like its own show, and not just a retread of what came before.  Characters I despised in the original show (Snarf and, at times, the Wily Kids), I rather enjoyed having on-screen.  If the original show was inspired by 80s action cartoons and random inclusions of various mythology, this show feels inspired by shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender and Lord of the Rings.  I'll take that pedigree gladly, thank you.

Mumm-Ra actually looks seriously threatening now as well, something he hasn't been since probably the opening arc of the original series.  I also appreciate how despite everything that happens in this opening being very bad for the Thundercats, they brought it upon themselves.  In fact, the Thundercats as a society come off as pricks overall, so it should be interesting to see how that is followed-up in the coming season.  I do have to take a bit of an issue with the music, though.  I have to admit I miss the original Thundercats theme song, and this show so far doesn't have a theme song.  As for the music, it's good but I heard a couple really familiar refrains in the background music.  I swear I heard one of the Star Trek movie theme songs (Wrath of Khan?) when the Clerics were fighting at the gates late in the pilot.  There's a lot of potential in this series on display, so I hope the show's writers can maintain this level of quality.  After all, the original Thundercats also had a pretty good opening 5 or so episodes (and the occasional excellent story like the Trials arc), and it went downhill pretty quickly afterwards.  For now, this is looking to be a very good series that hopefully sets the standard for cartoon revivals.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 01, 2011, 03:08:47 PM
I also just finished watching the two-part opening to the new Thundercats series, and IMO it's as awesome as the original series is terrible.

I stopped reading at that point. That was all the encouragement I needed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 05, 2011, 05:19:41 PM
Mortal Kombat Legacy
It's a youtube series and it's been very well handled so far. Production values are pretty high for this sort of thing and it needs more viewers so that they continue making them and hopefully bring it to television. I'll link you to all the recent *Uncensored* episodes:

Episode 1: Jax Sonya & Kano pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6UiEuCYXA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6UiEuCYXA)

Episode 2: Jax, Sonya & Kano pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTSEa--Alkw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTSEa--Alkw)

Episode 3: Johnny Cage
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4dDzPMK0ko (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4dDzPMK0ko)

Episode 4: Kitana & Milena pt 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFbGNqs0JQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIFbGNqs0JQ)

Episode 5: Kitana & Milena pt 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QRSbf9H5M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4QRSbf9H5M)

Episode 6: Raiden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWh4Z42SJk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5tWh4Z42SJk)

I'm very interested to see how this all plays out since right now it's just setting up all the characters. The episodes are kinda short and I really wish they would be atleast 12-15 minutes long consistently, but it's straight and to the point on what I assume is a pretty low budget (It's backed by WB I believe), so I'm really not gonna nitpick on things like that.

Episode 7: Scorpion & Sub Zero - Pt. 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Wnc8OyUj0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5Wnc8OyUj0)

Episode 8: Scorpion & Sub Zero - Pt. 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQv-kYsclSM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQv-kYsclSM)

Episode 9: Cyrax & Sektor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwDyWfjb48 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OwDyWfjb48)


I don't know if anyone has or was interested in watching these, but I think the first season is done, so I'll make it easy for you to catch up on all of them. I enjoyed them and would love to see them not only get a second season, but actually get expanded into a full length show, possibly even on TV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 05, 2011, 09:15:54 PM
I am not sure if it's even violent enough to bother censoring. I was rather disappointed with Raiden since he spent the entire episode not doing anything. The effects are well done, although Cyrax & Sektor was somewhat over ambitious, and didn't quite work. I really wish they stop desaturating everything. I know they are going for dark and gritty look, but it just looks dark and cheap.

The package so far is competent, but it lacks that Holy **** factor. I was surprised by the relatively well known names they got for the first 2 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on August 06, 2011, 02:04:37 AM
The series was done well enough for what it was. The exception being the Kitana & Mileena episodes, which I didn't much care for. I really wish that they had been allowed to stick to the Rebirth themes instead. It made for a much more interesting alternate universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 06, 2011, 02:30:56 AM
The Kitana & Mileena episodes didn't quite work either due to how inconsistant they were. If they were going for Animated = Flashback, and kept with it, it might have worked. But they didn't and failed to follow their own rules. It was all over the place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 06, 2011, 02:57:50 PM
I also just finished watching the two-part opening to the new Thundercats series, and IMO it's as awesome as the original series is terrible.

I stopped reading at that point. That was all the encouragement I needed.

The bolded statement couldn't be any more true.
This is how you revive an old childhood favorite.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 06, 2011, 03:21:41 PM
I just watched the last 9 episodes in season 4 of The Wire in a row. Everyone here who hasn't watched that show needs to do that, or else you're banned from the forums.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 07, 2011, 02:06:16 PM
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 08, 2011, 02:48:45 PM
Black Dynamite - The Animated series.

Just watched the pilot episode on adultswim.com
http://video.adultswim.com/black-dynamite/black-dynamite-the-pilot.html

L-O -F'n-L MuthafukkkkkAAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on August 08, 2011, 03:29:55 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that's just awesome. More people should know about Black Dynamite.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 08, 2011, 04:01:28 PM
I never told nobody this, but.... I used to be a children


Have you ever been slapped across yo' face with a frog dick!?
::smaaaack::
Oh what's that!? it sounds like you just had a frog dick on yo' mouth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 08, 2011, 04:27:56 PM
That was amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on August 10, 2011, 12:02:04 AM
I just watched a great show on hulu called The Booth at The End. You should go watch it. http://www.hulu.com/the-booth-at-the-end
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 10, 2011, 02:05:45 AM
Well, one long run has finally come to an end.  Well over a year after the first set released, Funimation has finally released the Part 5 Blu-Ray of Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood, containing the final 13 episodes.  I've been very critical of this second Fullmetal Alchemist series since the beginning, but this is a pretty good volume that's up there with the best run of the show (what was released in the "Part 2" set).  The battles are satisfying, most of the plot twists are well-executed (aside from a really DUMB nod to the End of Evangelion movie and a really lame plot twist involving Scar suddenly having new abilities he previously just "refused to use"), and the animation is really top-notch.

This is usually the part where I then complain that the ending is a steaming pile of crap because the Japanese usually have no idea how to write satisfying endings, but honestly I really have no complaints about FMA:B's ending.  The plot wraps up in a satisfying and fitting manner both logically and thematically, and the writers left about 1 1/2 episodes after the final battle to wrap up loose ends and give the story room to breathe.  This is how an ending is supposed to be done.

Overall, Brotherhood is a good series that falls just short of being a great series.  Its main problem is that it's slavishly faithful to the original manga, so for a large chunk of the series it comes off as rambling and lacking in the heart and emotion that the first Alchemist series exuded so passionately.  Had the folks at Bones trimmed a good 20 or so episodes off the 64-episode run, the show would have flowed much better.  It wouldn't have dragged so much with endless dime-a-dozen Alchemy battles and even more endless padding with conversation scenes that serve only to repeat information the audience already knows.  Of the two series, I much prefer the original Fullmetal Alchemist as a whole for its emotional execution and pithiness, but Brotherhood is still worth watching due to its better animation and much more satisfying ending.

Incidentally, it's rare that you see these on anime DVDs/Blu-Rays and even rarer still that they're actually funny, but the FMA Part 5 set contains a 7-minute Outake montage that I actually found pretty funny.  Check it out sometime if you happen to pick up the set.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 13, 2011, 03:04:53 PM
I finished The Wire, so I'll probably stop gushing over it after this (maybe). It was an amazing ride, and somehow managed to be crazy and believable at the same time, especially in the final season.

The way Jimmy invented a serial killer out of thin air to manipulate Carcetti into giving the police the money and resources they needed to catch Marlo unfolded and escalated beautifully, and ending it the way they did with everyone covering it up to protect their own asses, so they couldn't even fire Jimmy and Lester for their wildly illegal actions was brilliant.

Michael becoming the new Omar was pretty awesome, and even though the way they killed Omar was disappointing, it kind of needed to be for the kind of show The Wire is. Nothing ever changes, and the people who stick out their neck to make things better instead of just looking out for themselves get screwed. An extremely cynical and depressing message, but a fairly realistic one.

No show will ever be better than this. I'd love to be proven wrong, but I can't see how.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2011, 03:16:36 PM
Have you seen The Shield?

I'm not saying it's better, but it's another high quality show dealing with the dark side of cop work and business on the streets.

They are too different for a direct point by point comparison, but if you appreciate one, you should be able to appreciate the other.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 13, 2011, 03:20:47 PM
It's on my list, based on your previous recommendations of it. Right now I'm moving on to Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2011, 03:24:43 PM
Another good choice.


Only problem with Breaking Bad is that once you are all caught up, you have to wait for the new season to start and then go week by week for the next episode like the rest of us.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 13, 2011, 03:35:21 PM
So, I finally finished Lost. It was a fairly good series, all-in-all. The ending was a bit weird to me though. It was just weird to see that was where all the alternate reality flashes were headed after watching them for how ever long they were going on. I did like how they kinda gave you the ending you were expecting, then changed it a bit to "shock" you and then give you a third ending that was supposed to kinda tie things together. Though, one thing I didn't like was the fact that the show was just like, "Well, a bunch of **** happens next, but since Jack dies, we're just gonna end the story now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 13, 2011, 03:37:36 PM
Another good choice.


Only problem with Breaking Bad is that once you are all caught up, you have to wait for the new season to start and then go week by week for the next episode like the rest of us.

Yeah, I would have gone nuts if I'd had to watch The Wire that way. Like I said, I watched most of season 4 (the last 9 episodes) and then most of season 5 (the last 7) marathon style, essentially back to back. The Breaking Bad creator wants to do one more season after the current one, though, and I don't want to wait that long to start it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2011, 04:35:53 PM
You could atleast delay that start to Breaking Bad by watching The Shield first.
By the time your done with that and into BB, this current upcoming season might be most of the way through.


7 seasons, 12-13 episodes each.
The first 5 are great, 6 is it's low point* (much like I thought s2 <the docks> of The Wire was its low point), but s7 gives it a fitting end.


There was originally only 6 seasons planned, but they couldn't fit it all in the way they wanted into only 13 episodes, so they stretched s6 out and put the final season as 7 instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 13, 2011, 04:47:56 PM
The Wire is amazing and will probably never be dethroned, but the way Game of Thrones is building up, the world it is creating especially regarding its mentality that any character can die, it's essentially The Wire in fantasy land. Each characters motivation and choices lead to realistic consequences, even if there are zombies and dragons.

Another great show is Board Walk Empire. It's better than Breaking Bad in my opinion, but it's less realistic. It kind just plays the "Wow....that was badass" card over and over again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 13, 2011, 04:50:35 PM
You could atleast delay that start to Breaking Bad by watching The Shield first.
By the time your done with that and into BB, this current upcoming season might be most of the way through.


7 seasons, 12-13 episodes each.
The first 5 are great, 6 is it's low point* (much like I thought s2 <the docks> of The Wire was its low point), but s7 gives it a fitting end.


There was originally only 6 seasons planned, but they couldn't fit it all in the way they wanted into only 13 episodes, so they stretched s6 out and put the final season as 7 instead.

I don't want to do another cop show right away, and a friend of mine has been bugging me to watch Breaking Bad for a while now.


@Stogi I started Boardwalk Empire when it was airing and liked it, but I never finished the season. I definitely want to get back to it, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 13, 2011, 09:21:29 PM
So, I finally finished Lost. It was a fairly good series, all-in-all. The ending was a bit weird to me though. It was just weird to see that was where all the alternate reality flashes were headed after watching them for how ever long they were going on. I did like how they kinda gave you the ending you were expecting, then changed it a bit to "shock" you and then give you a third ending that was supposed to kinda tie things together. Though, one thing I didn't like was the fact that the show was just like, "Well, a bunch of **** happens next, but since Jack dies, we're just gonna end the story now.

My big problem with the show was that they tried to cram ALL THE ANSWERS into the final few episodes, but actually just chickened out of most of them. Like why the island can move, what's being corked, who built that statue, all that stuff. No answers for it. So disappointed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 13, 2011, 10:09:03 PM
wrong thread
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on August 15, 2011, 12:39:02 PM
Thundercats: 8.5/10 Loving it, but wish it would move a little faster, the 4th episode seemed like a filler, though I understand it's importance to the story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 15, 2011, 12:56:17 PM
True Blood

Please pleae let Sookie die or atleast stop loving Eric so much, and please let Eric go back to being the old Eric.
The whole Sookie/Eric sappy romance novel **** is making me sick to my stomach. It's just gone too far.
And can they get some more nudity in there besides Sookie every damn week? I enjoyed seeing her naked the first few times, and she can continue to od nude scenes, but it feels like she is looking for any excuse to be naked on screen at this point so that all the other actresses don't have to. Terra's GF, the 400year old witch (not Marnie), Sam's Shifter GF, JESSICA!!! anyone someone semi-attractive other than just Sookie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 15, 2011, 03:28:03 PM
I completely agree. I've been watching it and the show is pretty awful. The only redeeming factor is Lafayette and that's only because he cracks me up (though some of his scenes are hard to watch). Other than that I'm staring blankly at the screen waiting for something...I don't know what, but something to happen that makes it all worth while.

Entourage: I'm glad this is the last season. It feels like all those characters (except Drama) have overstayed their welcome. Yes, even Ari. I actually think it's because of Ari that I am even saying this. He dominated the show. Every single scene he was in throughout the earlier seasons were the shows best. Now he's all depressed and lonely and most of all, unfunny. Even when he makes fun of Lloyd, his creme-dela-creme, it sounds so forced and boring.

By the way, their "entourage" has gotten oversized. There's like 10 of them now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2011, 02:34:16 PM
The New Looney Tunes on Cartoon Network

HAHAHAHA Daffy cracks me up & for once Bugs wasn't being a dick, but actually getting played.
So many things happened in the episode I just watched that made me laugh. Daffy blowing off Lola (female rabbit) as she look like a pathetic stalker after being rejected. Bugs being the poor sucker who is trying to date Lola as Lola stalks Daffy while he is out dating Tina (female duck).
If it wasn't for a few lines from Daffy I would've kept right on not paying attention as it played in the background.

"All women are crazy" - Daffy Duck

Another ep just started (On Demand) and Daffy has me laughing in this one too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2011, 02:47:05 PM
How does it compare to the golden oldies? I mean you seen what happened last time they brought bugs out of retirement.

On the other hand it did produce this bit of comedy gold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9nOD1h0m8Q&feature=related).

Uncensored (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ivzp9wmrcwE&feature=related).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2011, 02:52:51 PM
I'm only glancing at the TV every once in a while, but if they wanted to revive Looney Tunes for the youth of today while still being able to interest the youth of 20 years ago, then I think they did a damn good job from the 2 episodes I just passively watched.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 21, 2011, 02:54:53 PM
Are they better than the commercials for it? I remember seeing the commercials Cartoon Network aired for it before the show premiered, and thought it looked bland and uninteresting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2011, 03:02:07 PM
Haven't seen the commercials. Only just rediscovered Cartoon Network thanks to ThunderCats.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 21, 2011, 03:08:36 PM
Here is the one I saw most often:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLkkHIln5Gw&feature=related
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 21, 2011, 03:43:37 PM
the new Looney Tunes show is 2 and a half men, Daffy is Charlie Sheen, Bugs is the straight man in this show. I like the show, the witch cracks me up, outside her different voice, which is hilarious(she's a different witch than the one on the old cartoons), the other voiced are kinda off a bit, but Mel Blanc is dead, so not much you can do about that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 21, 2011, 03:51:36 PM
Has anyone been watching Drew Carey's Improv-a-ganza?  It's basically Whose Line Is It? V 2.0.  Pretty good stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2011, 04:36:04 PM
Watched a bunch of New Loony Tunes episodes online.

Too much story and nowhere near enough toon on toon violence(It's virtually non-existant). Visually it's ok if not a little cheap with the poor use of CGI. The character designs aren't bad, if a bit short. Just not enough Loony, too suburban. So tame.

The Road Runner shows aren't too bad, but don't measure up to the oldies in almost every way. The Road Runner show is completely CGI, which in itself isn't the issue, but there is no attempt of any kind to make it look like a cartoon, so the entire thing comes off feeling cheap. It's missing the drop into a ravine and leave a hole in the shape of an outline, lacking the quiet tortured desperation that the coyote has, no pulling the road off the ground as the speeds pick up. In the end the only thing better is that it has a lot of speed and it has it in spades.

Both shows has a lot of potential and hey got some of the basics, but there is massive room for improvement.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 21, 2011, 04:40:15 PM
These are pretty much the first good impressions I've read on the new Looney Tunes series.  ToonZone.net had 2-3 written reviews of the first few episodes of the series, and they were very negative.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2011, 06:17:32 PM
I'm not a Looney Tune critic and I was only passively watching the episodes while I was researching CM7 for my phone, so I wasn't paying too much attention to details of story and whatnot. It was humorous with some jokes aimed at older audiences and it caught my attention by making me laugh at some of them.

I did catch a quick glimpse of the roadrunner (3D CGI animated) but i didn't see the whole thing, so I couldn't form any opinion on it other than it didn't look right in CGI. And there was plenty of violence in the last 2 episodes that came on while I was at the computer. Daffy getting his face punched in by Scarlett Johansen's Bodyguard several time comes to mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on August 21, 2011, 10:26:34 PM
Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner were my favorite of the original Looney Toons and I know I will just be repulsed by making them cg so it is a show I will avoid.

True Blood

Alcide might actually have a point after just being there for the whole season.  After the Sookie, Eric thing becomes so sweet my teeth hurt it seems it will finally end now that the witch is controlling him.

One thing I did like was Hoyt and Jason's reactions to Jessica.  After Jessica has that dream sequence where he was pathetic I was glad to see the real him stand up for himself and show that she really didn't know him at all.  That and Jason finally turned down some poontang.  There are still like 5 million different plots with the characters that now are all loosely connected but don't seem to have much to do with each other.

Wilfred

I saw the first episode.  I wasn't really sure what to expect when I started it except that Elijah Wood was the lead so there were talented people involved.  I like the concept and a few parts really got me.  I'll keep watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2011, 10:44:07 PM
Wilfred will grow on you.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 22, 2011, 12:48:22 AM
oh yeah that was my other complaint with the new looney tunes, the animation is crap. Looks like some more flash cartoons. I guess at least there is some representation of Bugs and Daffy, but **** Tiny Toons is still one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: SixthAngel on August 22, 2011, 02:45:25 AM
After watching some of Wakfu I've changed my mind about flash animation.  Some of the action scenes are absolutely amazing and if I wasn't told it was flash I wouldn't know.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 22, 2011, 06:36:22 AM
Looney Tunes:

Lola: 'Call me!"

Daffy: 'Aha Ahahahaahahahahahah'

Me: HAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 22, 2011, 07:19:18 AM
theres nothing wrong with flash animation, its the style thats flash animation. Theoretically you could animate everything frame by frame and it would look great, but everyone has the urge to do a crapload of motion tweens.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on August 22, 2011, 08:14:43 AM
I just finished a couple of collections of Anthony Bourdain's No Reservations. I really like this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on August 22, 2011, 10:36:23 AM
Both Mad Men and Friday Night Lights are now on Netflix streaming, and I'm having a hard time figuring out which to watch first. Think I'm going for Mad Men.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2011, 11:09:00 AM
Looney Tunes:

Lola: 'Call me!"

Daffy: 'Aha Ahahahaahahahahahah'

Me: HAHAHAHAHAHA

That's the episode I was watching yesterday.


My reaction was exactly the same.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 22, 2011, 03:46:49 PM
Has anyone been watching Drew Carey's Improv-a-ganza?  It's basically Whose Line Is It? V 2.0.  Pretty great stuff.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 22, 2011, 04:15:38 PM
These are pretty much the first good impressions I've read on the new Looney Tunes series.  ToonZone.net had 2-3 written reviews of the first few episodes of the series, and they were very negative.

I am still negative on the new Looney tunes, it's not as bad as "You have raped my childhood and shat down it's neck" that is Buzz Bunny. But I am not going to keep wasting bandwidth watching it online if I know it's going to keep wasting my time with the whole suburban housemate routine. If Daffy isn't going to take a shotgun to the face with Bugs nibbling a carrot saying "Ain't I a stinker" and other sundry playful toon violence there isn't much to see here.

While I don't expect to see Roger Rabbit level of cleverness and adult themes, I don't want something so completely PC and inoffensive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 22, 2011, 05:46:09 PM
yeah, to be honest Looney Tunes should be a batshit crazy show on adult swim where they belong. I'd hate to have Aqua Teen hunger force kids 50 years from now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2011, 12:23:32 AM
I just finished the first season of Breaking Bad. The show's fantastic. It's unpredictable, in a way The Wire (which is still a better show) never was. With it, you had a decent idea of where they were headed. You knew they'd get Avon Barksdale, but you didn't know how. With this, it just keeps escalating; you never know what'll happen next. I need to find a way to catch up to the current season before the end of the week when I move back to school.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 23, 2011, 01:11:05 AM
I just finished the first season of Breaking Bad. The show's fantastic. It's unpredictable, in a way The Wire (which is still a better show) never was. With it, you had a decent idea of where they were headed. You knew they'd get Avon Barksdale, but you didn't know how. With this, it just keeps escalating; you never know what'll happen next. I need to find a way to catch up to the current season before the end of the week when I move back to school.

Don't miss the two seasons in between!

Breaking Bad is seriously Television at its finest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2011, 01:56:52 AM
What I meant by "catch up" was that I want to watch every episode between where I'm at now and those currently airing in the next four days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 23, 2011, 02:12:53 AM
Ah.
If you're into more legal methods (and want to support the show), Best Buy has seasons 1-3 on DVD for $15 each. :D

And a free $10 Gift Card when you buy three. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2011, 02:20:31 AM
Great show, great deal. All three seasons for under $50, and that's before the gift card. Order placed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 23, 2011, 02:25:54 AM
Order placed.

As everyone should. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 23, 2011, 02:28:17 AM
Of course I'll probably have watched all those episodes before the DVDs arrive, but they'll still be nice to have.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2011, 04:12:45 AM
Of course I'll probably have watched all those episodes before the DVDs arrive, but they'll still be nice to have.
LOL +1
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on August 23, 2011, 07:42:45 PM
Underbelly: Razor 7.8/10

Fourth season of an Australian show that I find fantastic. But so far not so much. I'm not sure how I feel about the premise, and they've already announced the death of my favorite character so far. But I'm going to keep watching because some things look good, but as with the other seasons, there are multiple story arcs. In the past seasons they've always chosen the best story lines to follow, but I don't feel that way about the first two episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 24, 2011, 09:37:57 PM
Deadliest Warrior

I want to be on this show. Great guns, great martial arts, great history, great narrator.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 28, 2011, 10:25:43 PM
I recently finished two animated TV series (+ 1 TV movie), one relatively old and obscure anime and one American show that for me is very nostalgic:

The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest - I've been rewatching this show off and on for a few months now, but now that I've finally finished it I can say the show holds up pretty well after all these years.  Man, that remixed and symphonic Jonny Quest theme song still kicks ass, and the writing in many of the episodes is pretty good.  The show does a good job overall of telling compelling adventure stories.

Unfortunately, there are really two big sticking points with me rewatching this series.  The first is that the laughably poorly-animated (even for its time) "Quest World" segments don't hold up at all.  The entire concept of this VR world being tied into just about everything is goofy enough, but besides looking extremely bad it's also pretty badly shoe-horned into quite a few stories that would have been better off without it.  The other major problem is that the show received a major overhaul between the first and second "seasons" of the show.  The entire voice cast was replaced (for the worse, IMO), characters were redesigned, and the stories were made more "fantastic" and crazy (with some tie-ins to the original 1960s Jonny Quest series).  Part of the charm to me of the earlier episodes is that while they were very pulp adventure-y, they also felt relatively believable.  By going to some really Sci-Fi/fantasy extremes in the second season, I thought the show lost some of its intrigue and became a little too goofy.  They also replaced most of the poorly-animated CG Quest World segments with even more poorly-animated 2D Quest World segments. 1 Step Forward, 3 steps back. That's Hanna-Barbara for you, but this is still an entertaining show after all these years that holds up well overall.

I also recently had a chance to check out the Jonny Quest TV movie for the original 60s series Jonny's Golden Quest, and while there are some goofy moments here and there (mostly with the script constantly trying to hook up 12-year olds Jonny and Jessie) the movie is both surprisingly dark and a very entertaining watch.  Just to give you an idea how dark this movie can go, at least one major character dies in this movie (with major emotional repercussions slowly worked out on-screen) and multiple times throughout the movie you see people dissolve (ala acid) down to the skeletal level on-screen.  As the Nostalgia Critic would say, "You know, FOR KIDS!"  The movie feels grounded in some form of believable world, it moves with a steady and exciting pace, and for a Hanna-Barbara work it's very well animated.  Hell, it's probably better animated than the Real Adventures of Jonny Quest was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 28, 2011, 10:27:53 PM
That last post was pretty long, even by my standards, so I decided to break it up into two posts for easier reading.
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Finally, a few years back, I heard some very good things about an underselling but supposedly excellent anime called Planetes.  Having finished it, I think the show is overhyped but it's still a decent watch.  I'm actually surprised Johnny Metts hasn't said anything about it, because the show was pretty much made just for him.  It's a Science Fiction show that takes place in 2075, following a team of astronauts as they go about their daily lives in space.  In this story, the space around the Earth has become so polluted by various debris from man's exploits in space that they have to send people out to collect it before it collides with things like space shuttles and kills people.  Yep, our heroes are outer space garbage men.

Surprisingly, the premise of the show turns out to be fairly compelling, the characters are likeable enough, and the show tries its best to follow actual physics and laws of science.  For example, there is no sound in space, and characters move with believable momentum in space.  Where the show runs into a snag is that towards the end, half the cast turn in unlikeable jackasses.  That's somewhat rectified by the end (with a full two episode epilogue), but it's a case of too little too late.  This is also a very "slice of life" show, so if you're expecting an epic story there simply isn't one there.  Also, I have to take issue with how the show treats women on the show.  With one lone exception (that being the team's captain, who is an awesome character), if you're a woman on this show you're either chasing after a guy or psychotic.  And, naturally, despite the show using "new recruit" Tanabe appearing early on to be the show's main character and avatar for the audience, she's almost completely thrown off the show by the halfway point.  *sigh* Naturally, the character who takes over the story for most of the show is your dime-a-dozen angsty, short-tempered Japanese boy.  And yeah, he's one of the jackasses towards the end of the show.  Hooray for Japan's Institutional Sexism!

Still, for all its problems, Planetes is still the sort of anime you'd never see made today.  It brings up real issues mankind will face going into space, its setting is a little preposterous but believable, and most of the cast is fairly old by anime standards (meaning 30 or older).  The standalone episodes can be quite enjoyable, even if the overarching plot is lackluster.  And despite the show being made by Sunrise, the animation is pretty decent even if the show's overall look is pretty bland.  Check it out if you're interested in some hard-ish Science Fiction.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 31, 2011, 03:53:06 AM
Doctor Who - Lets Kill Hitler:

Trying to explain the confusing mess of River Song and how she becomes to be her was already difficult enough but this knocked it out of the park. The fact that the episode managed to present itself so cleverly, explain River, introduce some more questions to the season arc AND throw in several paradoxes (with all of it making sense) should be a measure to how good Steven Moffat is.

If Lost answered things like this especially with the time travel element in season 4/5 it would be getting universal praise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 31, 2011, 10:24:07 AM
Hey, I thought the 5th season of lost was the best of the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 31, 2011, 10:28:52 AM
I need to acquire that Dr. Who episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 31, 2011, 03:50:09 PM
X-Files Season 7 - disappointing

Such a downgrade from earlier seasons.
I think it's very obvious that they were running out of ideas because I'm a little past halfway in the season and practically every episode has been some silly slapstick filler episode that is seriously making me feel like I'm never gonna get to the last 2 seasons. Duchovny even seems like he is just dialing it in for most of this season, and with the material that was being produced at the time, I don't blame him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 31, 2011, 03:58:35 PM
X-Files Season 7 - disappointing

Such a downgrade from earlier seasons.
I think it's very obvious that they were running out of ideas because I'm a little past halfway in the season and practically every episode has been some silly slapstick filler episode that is seriously making me feel like I'm never gonna get to the last 2 seasons. Duchovny even seems like he is just dialing it in for most of this season, and with the material that was being produced at the time, I don't blame him.
If you like the original X-File Seasons with new cases each episode you have to wade through all this conspiracy drama junk and it gets back to it when Duchovny is gone.  If memory serves where your at I couldn't stand it either.  Made me stop watching the show then I saw the more back to the roots type episodes in the last few seasons.

Though by that point The Lone Gunman was a better show.  Its been over 10 years so my memory might be fuzzy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 31, 2011, 04:13:05 PM
The last episode I watched was with two sets of twins that would cause rage when they were in each others presence and the ground to shake and glass to shatter. Moulder got sucked into a man hole and the whole episodes was rather cheezy.
The one before that was about hollywood and I've been dragging through this season very slowly as it's all rather uninteresting with cheezy plots and effects and dialed in acting. I've burned through the previous 6 seasons, but I've been on this season for about a month now.

If Duchovny left before next season started, I can see why. The show has been at a low for the last 14-18 episodes and you can really tell he's not into any more.... and I'm not either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: EasyCure on September 01, 2011, 10:08:36 PM
hahahahaha

I don't normally post here since I don't watch a lot of tv, but the newest Futurama is on and the Modern FPS parody was priceless!

video game titled "World War II 3" ha!

so was the psychedelic black light Hypnotoad poster in the bedroom. I swear sometimes those small visual gags that go unnoticed are the funniest parts of the episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 01, 2011, 10:37:10 PM
X-Files Season 7 - disappointing

Tell me about it. :(

For me, the thing that really started to kill the show was the increasing focus on the metaplot. I much preferred the monster-of-the-week format for the most part.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 02, 2011, 01:49:05 PM
X-Files Season 7 - disappointing

Tell me about it. :(

For me, the thing that really started to kill the show was the increasing focus on the metaplot. I much preferred the monster-of-the-week format for the most part.
Same here.

My Son found my JLU DVD's.  With Batman and Superman on them he wanted to watch them.   The lesson of the day: 3 Year olds are not old enough to watch multi-hero awesomeness.  He kept wanting to get to Superman.  Guess I'll just stick to the old Cartoon on Netflix... Wish they had the newer Superman cartoon that was the precursor to JLU... and Batman the Animated Series all on streaming.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 10, 2011, 11:18:19 PM
While I was gone I watched a lot of Breaking Bad. I've watched through the first episode of season 4 (the current season), and now I can safely say that this is easily the best show on TV right now.

Also, now that UncleBob guilted me into buying the DVDs, the first three seasons of Breaking Bad are on Netflix Streaming starting today. If you haven't watched the show, rectify that immediately.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 11, 2011, 12:18:00 AM
Speed Grapher - I finished watching the show a few days ago, waiting to talk about it until I've mulled it over for a few days.  Honestly, I'm still not sure if I liked this show or not, because while there was entertainment to be had I can't even begin to count the number of things in this show that should make me hate it.  It's a Gonzo show from around the point where the beloved animation studio began their Fall from Grace, but if you didn't see the Gonzo logo you wouldn't know they made it.  The character designs are very simple; the coloring is very flat; and the animation is as bad as you can get without resorting to still frame camera pans.  Gonzo was once what Madhouse is now: a studio known for awesome animation even if their scripts could be sometimes iffy.  Seeing a product like this from them now just saddens me, though not nearly as much as watching some of their most recent work.

There is something both very appealing and yet repulsive about the tone and characterization in the series, as it's very Noir.  It's a show about human decadence: almost every character in the show (including to some extent the main character, former war photographer Saiga) is a despicable human being.  And man does this show like to show you that.  Sexual deviance, serial fetish-related murder, rape, child molestation, financial ruination, political corruption, flagrant abuse of police power...this show has its perverse base covered pretty thoroughly.  Because this ends up being a show about how money and obsessions inevitably destroy people (in often comically exaggerated ways, such as a man who loves music turning into a walking boombox that kills people with sonic vibrations), that didn't bother me as much as it probably would otherwise but it comes just short at times of becoming a snuff film.

For all its pretensions, however, Speed Grapher is a very simple show: guy discovers decadent secret society, finds girl with strange power, gets a strange power, fights dudes, escapes with girl, and the society sends people with strange powers to kill guy and recapture girl.  There are some wrinkles here and there (some work, some don't) and the show takes a pretty drastic hook at a "message" towards the end, but for the most part it's just a dude with the ability to kill people with his camera fighting all sorts of obsession-empowered superhumans.  I would like to really commend the writers for the series' main villain, though.  He is very well-written, perhaps one of the best I've seen in anime.  His motivations are simple and his plan actually makes sense, and in a great twist he actually achieves pretty much everything he wanted.

There is one thing I've been putting off, though, that really bears mentioning because it's a very icky subject this show dabbles in: however much the series tries to dance around this, the main character is a 30  year-old man who falls into a mutual relationship with a 15-year old girl.  Like the rest of the show, the writers managed to deflect a lot of the "icky"-ness by re-framing the relationship in other forms like "Father-Surrogate Daughter" and others (to avoid spoiling too much) and there never is anything physical shown or even hinted at on-screen.  At the end of the day, though, it's still a romantic relationship between a 15-year old girl and a guy probably literally twice her age.  That's probably a big issue for most people, and I wish the writers didn't bring it to that.  At least they handled it with much more class than you would expect from anime.

Speed Grapher is a hard anime to recommend.  I really feel like I shouldn't like this series, and maybe it was just the case of the right kind of show at the right time.  There are certainly worse shows out there, and it's entertaining enough and thought-provoking at times.  I didn't feel B.S.-ed by the ending, and that's certainly rare with anime.  That said, Gonzo has produced far better and far, far, FAR better-looking shows than this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 11, 2011, 12:30:35 AM
While I was gone I watched a lot of Breaking Bad. I've watched through the first episode of season 4 (the current season), and now I can safely say that this is easily the best show on TV. right now.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2011, 12:55:05 AM
The Wire is still better. I will say, though, that if it continues on as great as it's been and ends satisfyingly it will probably take that crown.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 11, 2011, 10:23:51 AM
Just finished up watching Torchwood: Miracle Day. Talk about boooooring.

I generally liked the original show, even if it was always campy and too-often-than-not overly dramatic. I really liked Children of the Earth and was hoping for that same level of quality from this mini-series/season. What we got was a very interesting premise and some great world building, but nothing more. The show just kind of crawled along the entire time without anything happening, then in the very last episode, tossed out some half-assed conclusion. This season sucked, and I'm inclined to put at least some of the blame on the shoulders of Starz. A lot of the action and storytelling definitely had an "American" feel to it. Still, I can't imagine this particular story could have been told any better without trashing everything but the initial premise (which is very interesting and well thought out).

John de Lancie should have been in every episode. Him and Lauren Ambrose had the only real interesting characters, even above Jack and Gwen... who both seemed incredibly out-of-chracter at times.

Oh well. I suppose the show had a decent enough run, especially for a spin-off. With that in mind, the continuation of this season's Doctor Who started up a few weeks ago. The last two episodes have been pretty good. I'm sure they'll go back to all that boring River Pond crap at the end of the season, but until then, I'm enjoying the one-off episodes.
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Post by: gbuell on September 11, 2011, 11:14:39 AM
Also, now that UncleBob guilted me into buying the DVDs, the first three seasons of Breaking Bad are on Netflix Streaming starting today. If you haven't watched the show, rectify that immediately.

Yay, awesome. Netflix is getting some damn good TV lately... Mad Men, Friday Night Lights and now this. I'm in season 1 of Friday Night Lights now and it's great, but I'll hit Breaking Bad next probably.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 11, 2011, 03:03:11 PM
Just finished up watching Torchwood: Miracle Day. Talk about boooooring.

I generally liked the original show, even if it was always campy and too-often-than-not overly dramatic. I really liked Children of the Earth and was hoping for that same level of quality from this mini-series/season. What we got was a very interesting premise and some great world building, but nothing more. The show just kind of crawled along the entire time without anything happening, then in the very last episode, tossed out some half-assed conclusion. This season sucked, and I'm inclined to put at least some of the blame on the shoulders of Starz. A lot of the action and storytelling definitely had an "American" feel to it. Still, I can't imagine this particular story could have been told any better without trashing everything but the initial premise (which is very interesting and well thought out).

John de Lancie should have been in every episode. Him and Lauren Ambrose had the only real interesting characters, even above Jack and Gwen... who both seemed incredibly out-of-chracter at times.

Oh well. I suppose the show had a decent enough run, especially for a spin-off. With that in mind, the continuation of this season's Doctor Who started up a few weeks ago. The last two episodes have been pretty good. I'm sure they'll go back to all that boring River Pond crap at the end of the season, but until then, I'm enjoying the one-off episodes.

I was disappointed with Torchwood as well. IT would have done better if this season was 7 episodes maximum. Starz definitely should take blame for this given how there was more explosions, less aliens, less connection to Doctor Who how did any of this happen when Amy/Rory were back on earth around the time? and almost no reference to anything in seasons 1-3. The season should have been american money and american production capabilities to a british-written/directed show and nothing more.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 12, 2011, 01:12:10 PM
True Blood Season Finale was pretty good last night if you ignore most scenes with Sookie in them.

Some big changes happened which should lead to something more interesting next season than this season

finale spoilers:

-Jesus (Lafayettes BF) is dead and had passed his Brujo magic onto Lafayette thanks to a possession of Laf by Marnie
-Ugly waitress from the diner has improved her magic and helped summon the dead from their graves to rid Lafayette of Marnies possession
-Debbie (stupid werewolf chick) blasted Tara's brains out with a shot gun when she intended to shoot Sookie instead. Not sure why she didn't just rip her to shreds in wolf form instead though.
-In return, Sookie used that same shotgun and blasted Debbie in the face point blank.
-Vamp hating priest from that Church cult Jason joined is back.... and he is a Vamp now.
Oh, and he is standing on Jason's porch with his fangs out.
-Someone freed Russel Edgington from his concrete grave
-Bill and Eric killed their ex-representative from the Vampire Hierarchy (I forget what it's called) as she threatened sookies life while also delivering news of a Vampire rebellion against the powers that be (I assume Russel was freed due to this rebellion)
-Jessica got butt booty naked with J. Stackhouse on the couch. I'm sure if you look hard enough, you might be able to convince yourself you saw a nip.
-I almost forgot, The redhead waitress' dead serial killer husband came back to deliver a message about her new husband... gave warning for her to get away from him ASAP because his past is resurfacing and it will be trouble.


and my speculation is that Tara will be back. Not like Jesus who will be appearing to Lafayette in ghost form to coach him through magic and Brujo powers, but I think Tara will either be turned to a Vamp or even worse, she may be the shows very first zombie.


Either way, long wait till next summer to find out. There should be lots of Vampire Politics next season
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 12, 2011, 08:06:40 PM
I watched the finale as well and this was the best episode in the season. Why? Because it killed so many people I hated....though I wish it was Sookie who got blasted. I really really really hate her. Her and her damn romances are revoltingly cheesy.

I think this show is retarded though. It's a shame because it could actually be pretty awesome. Every time I see the beginning song/title clip, I always think that if it were filmed in that light, with that grainy realism, it would be far more interesting than this neo-soap opera bullshit. Not like a documentary, but in a real town with more than 15 people, a government, a vampire mob, the religious right, conspiracy theorists, and a werewolf counter culture. It could be like Boardwalk Empire but with booze replaced with "V".

But instead, they decide to make it more about 30-something year old actors fucking each other on screen while thin plot lines reach their predictable conclusions. And every time someone needs a new romance, it's one of two characters, like a revolving door, fucking every character in the damn show. Even when this show was good, it was never anything more special than a fun popcorn-eating romp.

If they happen to bring out Zombies, I'll probably watch it due to my love for Zombies, but if not I won't be watching it next summer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 12, 2011, 10:47:07 PM
Best scene in this season was when Eric just drinks the blood out of the heart while using the artery as a straw, hilarious and bad-ass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 12, 2011, 10:53:06 PM
Entourage 7/10

Entourage is a show that should have ended two seasons ago. When it was new and fresh, it portrayed a side of Hollywood that I have always been curious about and frankly, didn't know how exactly it worked. That's why I loved Entourage. The characters displayed and shown may not be true to life but they each play a critical stereotype that helps explain the movie industry as a whole. And better yet, it was funny....really funny. Case in point, is Entourage's stereotype of an egotistical, yet bold talent agent named Ari Gold. If he wasn't in the show, it would have collapsed, period. His antics, sayings, and overall demeanor made not only the show interesting, but other characters interesting. From the shows onset, I really really thought that they might give him more of the focus. They finally did in Season 8, but that was little too late and turned out to be very predictable.

Still, even though this show has been characterized as the guy's version of Sex in the City, it's way better than that. I've been forced to watch that show. It is static and lame. Entourage is way more clever and informative.

I recommend anyone looking for a great comedy to check it out but stop at season 4. There are some bright spots afterwards especially Ari rolling through the office and paint-balling people he fires but it is all down hill from there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 15, 2011, 07:31:58 AM
Bad news for fans of Sherlock (the TV series, not the inferior-but-noisier movies with RDJ although RDJ is a great Sherlock in his own right, they don't have the chemistry as Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch), season 2 has been delayed to 2012 :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 15, 2011, 09:26:31 AM
Bad news for fans of Sherlock (the TV series, not the inferior-but-noisier movies with RDJ although RDJ is a great Sherlock in his own right, they don't have the chemistry as Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch), season 2 has been delayed to 2012 :(
Typical BBC Rubbish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2011, 02:14:20 AM
So a new season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars is upon us with a two-part (out of a 3 episode arc) premier taking place entirely under the seas of Mon Calamari, and after watching it I can only shrug.  These episodes were a bad idea, both from a story and animation standpoint.  With the entirety of both episodes taking place underwater, that meant instead of the usual painstakingly-crafted Clone Wars backgrounds and movement, we got a whole lot of blue/green/black backdrop and characters swimming in circles.  Exciting.  The story really isn't anything special so far that we haven't already seen done in previous episodes of the show, and I'm astonished that the writers managed to put Admiral Ackbar in these episodes while resisting the urge to have him say his famous line.  And then the show brings the Gungans in (including Jar-Jar), which must have been some kind of editorial mandate as George Lucas continues to mock the Star Wars fanbase.

This premier wasn't bad, but it was painfully mediocre and boring (and we still have another episode to go on Mon Calamari).  Not a good start for a show still trying to redeem itself for how poorly the first half of Season 3 went.  It feels like the show is stuck in place and spinning its wheels.  C'mon, Lucasfilm.  This is the show's fourth season.  Let's pick up the pace and actually move the story forward towards the events of Revenge of the Sith, or at least towards more interesting events than this.

And a big "BOOO!" to Cartoon Network for having Thundercats sit this week out so Clone Wars could take its time slot.

BTW, did anyone else notice that Young Justice returned tonight after its 7 month hiatus?  Pretty decent episode, too.
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Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2011, 02:32:45 AM
With tonight's two premiers out the way and several shows nearing the end of their season (or at least the halfway point), I'd like to highlight how a few other shows are going right now:

Thundercats (Season 1 - 8 episodes) - This show hit its stride early, and has been consistently entertaining, exciting, and very well-animated and acted.  It also likes to prey on your expectations if you've seen the original series so it can subvert them.  If you haven't started watching this show yet and you love shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender, I suggest you climb aboard because this is a great show.  My only big complaint with it is that the show has no real opening credits song, merely a 4 second reprise of the end of the 1980s Thundercats theme.

Warehouse 13 (Season 3 - 9 episodes) - This show's had a pretty strong season this year, helped greatly by expanding the cast and the mythology of the show.  This season's had a few episodes that just don't work (like the typical horrible episode that takes place inside a video game modeled after the Elder Scrolls...that uses Arcade sound effects and mannerisms...ugh), but it's been a solid season overall and the overarching plot is pretty interesting.  I was happy to see the show picked up for a season 4 next year as well, especially after Eureka is being canceled after next year.

Eureka (Season 4.5 - 9 episodes) - Honestly, I wasn't too sad to see this show getting the axe after next year.  This season has shown that the show's formula is just getting increasingly stale, despite the writers' best efforts to try to spice it up.  The formula's gotten so prominent at this point you could have a rather dangerous drinking game based on it, but at least the show's still fairly entertaining and the cast is great as always.  And you have to love the geeky in-jokes this show will just throw out at any moment.  But it's seriously time for this show to start moving forward, as the "disaster of the week" stuff is really getting tiresome.

Alphas (Season 1 - 9 episodes) - This show came out of nowhere, and while it had a bit of a rough start (as Warehouse 13 did its first season) the show has gotten consistently better with almost every episode.  The cast is growing on me (especially Gary, who despite a potentially-obnoxious character trait in his autism is probably my favorite character on the show), the stories are pretty engaging, and the show actually manages to portray low-grade superpowers in live action fairly convincingly.  The show still has some ways to go, but it's been picked up for a Second season and deservedly so.  It's a good show that's showing the potential to become a great one.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2011, 05:07:04 PM
Always Sunny s7

OMFG. I feel like I haven't seen this show in forever, but I also haven't laughed that damn hard in a while. Frank's hooker and the crack, Charlie in the limo with the ridiculous plan (I had to pause and rewind it since I missed what was being said) and Fat Mac with his "Diabetus".


Quotes of the episode:
"this jacket is tighter than dickskin" - Roxy
"Now help me dig these crack rocks outta my ass" - Roxy
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 19, 2011, 06:05:27 PM
What about the dude who claimed to be McNabb coming back as Tiger Woods? Or even better, Dennis's need to do crack once again? That scene with him and Mac eating chimichangas is why I watch this show.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 19, 2011, 06:16:48 PM
I wasn't trying to spoil the episode. I was laughing the whole time.

Franks hair is so crazy. Fat mac and his trash bag of chimi's, Dee sucking off Alvin from The Cosby Show, Roxy... oh fuckin Roxy. RIP. just met ya, already gonna miss ya.


And Charlie makes this show for me. Mac is great, Dennis is good, Frank is fuckin crazy, but Charlie, that guy gets me.
And he was practically himself still in Horrible Bosses. it was great.
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Post by: Stogi on September 19, 2011, 06:21:47 PM
Yeah Charlie is my favorite as well, though the show didn't enter greatness till Frank joined in.
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Post by: Caliban on September 19, 2011, 06:27:15 PM
That was a great start for their Season 7. Laughing all the way through, and that limo scene was just awesome lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 20, 2011, 12:55:53 AM
new himym and 2.5 was pretty meh
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Post by: Khushrenada on September 20, 2011, 01:16:05 AM
The Emmy's - Disappointing.

Would have like to see Amy Poeler and Steve Carrell win. Can't believe Jon Hamm didn't get best actor in a drama. I thought for sure he was a lock with his performance in "The Suitcase" episode and with no Cranston around. And will they please give the Emmy for best variety show to someone other than Jon Stewart. At least The Amazing Race took back best reality program and Mad Men won best Drama.
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Post by: Morari on September 20, 2011, 09:57:58 AM
...people outside of the industry watch the Emmy Awards?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 20, 2011, 12:10:27 PM
"Khushrenada
Creativity is at an all-time low."

sounds like he's part of the industry to me,
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 20, 2011, 05:21:56 PM
Alphas is...ok as far as "Heroes"-esque shows go, but there's just something about the show that hasn't really clicked with me yet.  Maybe it's the various Alphas not being all that likeable and their powers being portrayed in less-than-impressive ways.  The show feels kind of like if the X-Men kind of...sucked.  It did improve greatly in its second episode, though.  I do wish that TV networks would stop trying to do superpower shows in Live-Action, as IMO you just can't portray larger-than-life stuff like that well in Live Action.  That's what we have animation for.
Alphas was interesting.
I really didn't think I was gonna like the EMF guy, but his character traits became less annoying and more humorous in the 2nd episode.
Alphas (Season 1 - 9 episodes) - This show came out of nowhere, and while it had a bit of a rough start (as Warehouse 13 did its first season) the show has gotten consistently better with almost every episode.  The cast is growing on me (especially Gary, who despite a potentially-obnoxious character trait in his autism is probably my favorite character on the show), the stories are pretty engaging, and the show actually manages to portray low-grade superpowers in live action fairly convincingly.  The show still has some ways to go, but it's been picked up for a Second season and deservedly so.  It's a good show that's showing the potential to become a great one.

I had thought this show had ended after 7 episodes since no updates were online since then that I saw until Brood posted that he saw 9 episodes.

I know most people have probably written this show off already, but this show was like if they rebooted heroes from the start but merged it with The 4400, set it up like the X-Men and kept it all based in reality as much as possible. There are no crazy people that can siphon all powers and horde them for later use. There are no people that can fly or shoot lasers out of their eyes. And actually ever single power that is in this show has some sort of scientific explanation and is actually very subtle in its use for the most part.


And Gary, he used to annoy me so much, but half the time he is comic relief now, some other times he is just a little annoying, but where I thought I was gonna hate him, he is now the most entertaining one on the show.


edit: So if there are any Heroes, The 4400, X-Men, No Ordinary Family fans out there that are looking for an actual good super show(The 4400 is the exception since that show was great), I think Alphas has been doing it all just right so far. Give it a shot, watch the first few episodes, realize that this is much better than Heroes or NOF.

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Post by: Khushrenada on September 21, 2011, 01:55:25 AM
...people outside of the industry watch the Emmy Awards?

Absolutely. It's a way to validate the time I've wasted watching TV. As far as award shows go, I watch the Emmy's, Oscar's and Golden Globes. Some years they suck, some years they are very entertaining. A Ricky Gervais appearance is always a highlight, especially if he hosts. Don't really watch much award shows after that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 21, 2011, 02:03:26 AM
Khush watches the GLAMOROUS awards shows, broodwars complains about BEAUTY AND THE BEAST DVD... What the heck is wrong with this forum  :-*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on September 21, 2011, 02:08:24 AM
Meanwhile BnM gets locked and warned for a thread about good old fashioned man-woman interactions. Do I detect an agenda?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 21, 2011, 02:15:23 AM
+1 my friend
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 21, 2011, 02:21:29 AM
Khushrenada is secure of his manliness. So secure he watches musicals and romances. Alone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 21, 2011, 05:57:34 AM
Alphas is...ok as far as "Heroes"-esque shows go, but there's just something about the show that hasn't really clicked with me yet.  Maybe it's the various Alphas not being all that likeable and their powers being portrayed in less-than-impressive ways.  The show feels kind of like if the X-Men kind of...sucked.  It did improve greatly in its second episode, though.  I do wish that TV networks would stop trying to do superpower shows in Live-Action, as IMO you just can't portray larger-than-life stuff like that well in Live Action.  That's what we have animation for.
Alphas was interesting.
I really didn't think I was gonna like the EMF guy, but his character traits became less annoying and more humorous in the 2nd episode.
Alphas (Season 1 - 9 episodes) - This show came out of nowhere, and while it had a bit of a rough start (as Warehouse 13 did its first season) the show has gotten consistently better with almost every episode.  The cast is growing on me (especially Gary, who despite a potentially-obnoxious character trait in his autism is probably my favorite character on the show), the stories are pretty engaging, and the show actually manages to portray low-grade superpowers in live action fairly convincingly.  The show still has some ways to go, but it's been picked up for a Second season and deservedly so.  It's a good show that's showing the potential to become a great one.

I had thought this show had ended after 7 episodes since no updates were online since then that I saw until Brood posted that he saw 9 episodes.

I know most people have probably written this show off already, but this show was like if they rebooted heroes from the start but merged it with The 4400, set it up like the X-Men and kept it all based in reality as much as possible. There are no crazy people that can siphon all powers and horde them for later use. There are no people that can fly or shoot lasers out of their eyes. And actually ever single power that is in this show has some sort of scientific explanation and is actually very subtle in its use for the most part.


And Gary, he used to annoy me so much, but half the time he is comic relief now, some other times he is just a little annoying, but where I thought I was gonna hate him, he is now the most entertaining one on the show.


edit: So if there are any Heroes, The 4400, X-Men, No Ordinary Family fans out there that are looking for an actual good super show(The 4400 is the exception since that show was great), I think Alphas has been doing it all just right so far. Give it a shot, watch the first few episodes, realize that this is much better than Heroes or NOF.



What about Sanctuary?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 21, 2011, 06:18:00 AM
Never got into Sanctuary. All I know is that it is some UK super natural creature show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 21, 2011, 08:29:03 AM
Khush watches the GLAMOROUS awards shows, broodwars complains about BEAUTY AND THE BEAST DVD... What the heck is wrong with this forum  :-*

Actually, I complained about an aspect of the Beauty & the Beast Blu-Ray while talking about hopes for the upcoming Lion King Blu-Ray.  "Human Again" was a terrible song that was cut from the original theatrical version for a reason: it was terrible and redundant ("There may be something there that wasn't there before" covers all the same ground a few minutes prior).  But then the show got popular on Broadway and they shoehorned that terrible song back into the movie, and then changed the look of the movie so the story only makes sense if "Human Again" is in it.  I hate that aspect of the Beauty & the Beast Blu-Ray, which is otherwise flawless.  I don't want the same thing to happen with Lion King and the even worse "Morning Report" song, which was another song cut from the original theatrical version for good reason and restored later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 21, 2011, 11:40:15 AM
Never got into Sanctuary. All I know is that it is some UK super natural creature show.

It's North-American...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 21, 2011, 03:05:35 PM
Bad news for fans of Sherlock (the TV series, not the inferior-but-noisier movies with RDJ although RDJ is a great Sherlock in his own right, they don't have the chemistry as Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch), season 2 has been delayed to 2012 :(
Typical BBC Rubbish.

Wait, are you calling Sherlock rubbish?

No. Way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 21, 2011, 05:28:49 PM
The delay is rubbish. You damn Yanks, can't even decipher the Queen's English.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 21, 2011, 05:29:56 PM
Bad news for fans of Sherlock (the TV series, not the inferior-but-noisier movies with RDJ although RDJ is a great Sherlock in his own right, they don't have the chemistry as Martin Freeman and Benedict Cumberbatch), season 2 has been delayed to 2012 :(
Typical BBC Rubbish.

Wait, are you calling Sherlock rubbish?

No. Way.
Edit: Morari beat me to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 21, 2011, 08:08:09 PM
Fastest keyboard in the west, partner. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 22, 2011, 02:58:54 AM
I'm not a yank, but yes  :-X
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 24, 2011, 01:35:14 AM
I recently started watching a new anime, one apparently based on the live-action sci-fi/horror series Supernatural.  I'm a couple of episodes in, and honestly it's hard to get a bead on this series.  For one thing, this series is just not designed for newcomers.  After a couple of episodes, if I didn't have my best friend watching it with me who had seen the live-action series, I wouldn't know such "minor" things as: "who are these guys?", "what do they do?", "why do they do it?", "what is their goal?", etc.  This series just doesn't seem designed for newcomers to this universe, and it makes getting into it more difficult than it should be for a premise this formulaic.

As for the stories themselves, so far they're pretty standard horror archetypes, though the second episode is full of plot holes.  The writing just seems to be missing a certain "snap" to it that engages the viewer and keeps them interested.  The animation's disappointing considering this is a Madhouse production, but considering I just learned today that studio was also responsible for gutter trash like Final Fantasy: Legend of the Crystals (the show where a character's ass glowing is actually a critical plot point), maybe I need to start downgrading my expectations for that studio.

Another show that's started gearing back up lately is Young Justice.  Two episodes into this "new season", and the show's definitely improving.  The writing has that certain "snap" to it I alluded earlier, with amusing little jokes and DC universe references hidden in the script that makes the show fun to watch.  That said, I am pretty close to despising the two characters that seem to be getting a lot of the spotlight lately: Ms. Martian and Superboy.  Ms. Martian...good god.  I'd say the reason I hate her can't be summed up in words but yes they can, two of them specifically in fact (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB2_L4Hn5kI).  As for Superboy, he's a whiny, emo, fairly unlikeable bitch.  To say he has a personality is an overstatement.  The show's going to have to work a lot harder to make me like these characters, and it's not like they're the only troublesome members of this cast (Robin with his wordplay puns and Flash with his libido are annoying as well).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2011, 01:42:18 AM
I recently started watching a new anime, one apparently based on the live-action sci-fi/horror series Supernatural.  I'm a couple of episodes in, and honestly it's hard to get a bead on this series.  For one thing, this series is just not designed for newcomers.  After a couple of episodes, if I didn't have my best friend watching it with me who had seen the live-action series, I wouldn't know such "minor" things as: "who are these guys?", "what do they do?", "why do they do it?", "what is their goal?", etc.  This series just doesn't seem designed for newcomers to this universe, and it makes getting into it more difficult than it should be for a premise this formulaic.
LOL. Ok, stop right there, go watch the live series. It the best and only consistently really good thing the CW has had going for it for years. I know you prefer your animation, but this is a good show. You should definitely go watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 24, 2011, 01:54:34 AM
LOL. Ok, stop right there, go watch the live series. It the best and only consistently really good thing the CW has had going for it for years. I know you prefer your animation, but this is a good show. You should definitely go watch it.

Yeah, I had hoped to experience this franchise the other way around, figuring that if I just didn't like the show, at worst I'm only out 24 half-hour episodes of my life.  If I did like it, I thought I'd check out the live-action series.  But hey, I thought that maybe the Japanese would write an anime adaptation that didn't assume you'd already seen the live-action series.  I might check out the live-action series instead.

But since you have seen the series, you might enjoy the anime version.  From what I've heard from my friend, the main characters are drawn as caricatures of their real counterparts and they have the same actors reprising their roles.  From what I've read, several episodes are actually adaptations of specific episodes from the live-action series as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2011, 01:58:30 AM
I'm gonna go look for it right now.

It's in English right?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 24, 2011, 02:07:10 AM
I'm gonna go look for it right now.

It's in English right?

Yes, Warner Bros. recently released it on Blu-Ray with an English dub reportedly using at least the two main characters from the live-action show, so it shouldn't be hard to find.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2011, 02:17:20 AM
I'm gonna go look for it right now.

It's in English right?

Yes, Warner Bros. recently released it on Blu-Ray with an English dub reportedly using at least the two main characters from the live-action show, so it shouldn't be hard to find.

That explains why I could only find a complete season on bluray. Netflix has it on DVD, and I would add it to my queue, but why wait.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 24, 2011, 06:04:05 PM
Supernatural: Poor man's Buffy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2011, 06:19:48 PM
Supernatural Anime

If you are interested in the series at all, don't start with the anime. After watching more than half of the first season, I can definitely say that this anime is for already existing fans of the show. It's sort of a re-imagining of the first season (IIRC), but they just kinda throw you right into it all and slowly start to get to the motivating factors behind the characters later.

Sam is voiced by his actual Actor, Jared Padalecki, but Dean is voiced by someone else. This actually throws the show off a bit mixed with the fact that the characters don't actually resemble themselves very much (especially Bobby... WTF did they do to Bobby?). Dean is also not voiced very well either and lacks that chemistry with Sam like they do in the show. That can be a little off putting after 6 seasons of the show on TV.

This anime is still interesting and I will probably finish it sometime today, but this is more fan service for the show than an actual substitute for it. Go watch the actual show first. It's much better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 25, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
How did season 6 end? I kind of lost track after a few episodes in the beginning and never got to it, and just recently I noticed they were going to start season 7... like, really, already?


By the way Boardwalk Empire is back today I believe... it's probably on right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2011, 09:52:09 PM
Season 7 started on Friday. , You've already missed the first ep.

Season 6 (IIRC) ended with Cas teaming up with Crowley to obtain all the souls from Purgatory. He got too power hungry and the Winchesters made a tough choice and decided that they had no choice but to kill Cas. Unfortunately the Angle Blade had no effect. Cas then proclaimed that he is the new God and that all shall bow down to him. That is where the new season picks up

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 25, 2011, 10:01:37 PM
Oh, ****. That's an epic ending. I need to go back and finish season 6 asap.
I know this is not related to season 6, but I've had this theory as to why God is hiding on Earth, and it has to do with how God is hiding from Death (Horseman) from his own death. We know that Death is as old if not older than God, so it's possible God's just hiding from his end until someone rises to the task to take his throne. I vote for Dean.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 12:37:08 AM
Ok, so I've finished the Supernatural Anime

It's like a severely condensed version of the actual show. It's missing all kinds of details considering it has the same episode count but each episode is only half as long. They changed some things and They didn't copy the story line 100%, but it's close enough.

I still advise against watching the anime before the actual show since not only is the actual show have more story elements, but it is also much deeper with character development and build-up to the climax. The anime series managed to tap into the emotional factory a little bit, but th ereal show handles everything much better.

The actual show I give a 9/10
the anime series I give a 7/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 02:24:13 AM
Breaking Bad

Someone has replaced the fan with an airplane propeller cranked up to the highest setting, then taken 2 scoops of elephant **** and flung it right towards it. I expect it to be very messy over the final 2 episodes of this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 02:41:40 AM
i'm about to watch it right now!

EDIT: This **** got real! Well...again...I swear I say that at the end of each episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 26, 2011, 10:55:25 AM
Newest Doctor Who episode.  Not a bad episode except...  They felt a need to fill there Cyberman  quota..  At least Cyber-gnat came back
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 26, 2011, 01:14:22 PM
It was an alright episode. They could have substituted the Cybermen for just about anything, though. They didn't play a very prominent role, after all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 01:53:07 PM
i'm about to watch it right now!

EDIT: This **** got real! Well...again...I swear I say that at the end of each episode.

That could have been a season finale.

The screaming turning into crying turning into laughter was a crazy moment. The Whites are fucked.

Also 2 comedians being Saul's "A-Team" was pretty funny, but not as funny as this entire scene
(http://i.imgur.com/6SlaD.gif) (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=31282394&postcount=8042)
^click for entire scene played out in gifs
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 02:14:25 PM
I honestly thought the whites had more money than that. They are sooo fucked. What would be your next move? You can't leave, you're brother in law is about to get murdered, your former partner cares about you but only enough to spare your life, and you have a fucking gangster about to kill all of you. What do you do? Kill Jessie?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 03:03:27 PM

Well considering that Skyler made him spend $1million on that carwash, then gave another $661k to Ted, that's a huge chunk of what they had already. Factor in Saul's fees and the cost of all the things that he's done for Walt/Jesse and you are probably out several more 100k. The cost of the 2 cars they bought for Jr., plus all of Walt's medical bills for the cancer (I bet most people have pretty much forgotten about the cancer) and then the bills they were picking up for Hank on top of all that, and you realize that he has likely burned through a huge chunk of his cash already.
Would've had enough to live on if it weren't for Skyler though.


As far as what would I do in that situation?
Killing Jessie probably isn't gonna happen, but helping Jessie realize that he needs to kill Gus might. Jessie is still carrying around that cig. But Walt should bunker down with Hank in his DEA protected house for now till he can figure out his money problem and/or get Jessie to come to the realization that Gus will do to him what he is trying to do to Walt right now.

But this whole situation is Walt's fault anyway for getting drunk and running his mouth at the dinner table with Hank listening, essentially re-opening the case of the blue meth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 26, 2011, 03:28:25 PM
It was an alright episode. They could have substituted the Cybermen for just about anything, though. They didn't play a very prominent role, after all.
Yes they could of and I wish they would have.  Except I was glad to see Cyber-Gnat but that's from the old line of Cybermen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 03:43:15 PM
Killing Jessie isn't going to happen since he's too influential in the series, but it would solve Walt's problem and if this show is becoming more like the 'The Wire', it probably could happen. If I had to guess, I think Walt might go state and go into witness protection. Jessie isn't going to kill Gus. He saved Gus. Now you know where his loyalty lies. There is no way Walt can convince him, not through words anyways.  As far as I'm concerned, as Walt, Jessie is expendable especially if it saves my family's life.

But in terms of plot, my guess is that Walt will use his brother-in-law to take on Gus. He'll become Columbo like his brother-in-law was joking with him about.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 26, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
it also didn't help that Walt said he wanted to kill Gus to Mike, or that he caused this huge leak by killing Gale, killing Gale pissed Gus off, from all accounts he created Gale years ago. Gus seems to be someone who can be loyal, Walt's idea that Gus was going to kill him was unreasonable paranoia, he was thinking Gus was going to be some gangter like Tuco, but this is not the case, he's much too smart, Walt should have never had Jesse kill Gale

Yeah, coming clean to Hank might be a chess move for Walt, or really really piss him off

Why is Walt laughing? Imagine if you were in a contest to see whose year was Worse?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 03:54:48 PM
If Walt didn't kill Gale, he would have been shot in the face. I don't understand how he couldn't kill Gale. And Gus is gangster, he may be smart, but he's been trying to replace and kill Walt from the beginning. His ties into the DEA are too severe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 26, 2011, 04:10:32 PM
No, i think Walt would just be unemployed. Gale replacing Walt means Walt is just useless, but not expendable, Walt doesnt want to go to the DEA because it puts Walt in jail too. Gus would know this and have trust in Walt. Walt however jumped the gun. Also, even if Walt was no longer needed in chemistry, he could have postured himself better with Gus. Walt constantly makes bad decisions, he shouldn't have tipped off the DEA on Hank till he was free and clear out of Harm's way, and always don't count your eggs till they've hatched. That stupid car wash too, there are much better ways to launder money. Heck if he asked he could have been board of directors at Dos Hermanos, if anyone recalls Gus invited Walt to dinner and had a candid conversation about how when he started in the business he made a bunch of mistakes and how he could help advise him to keep this from happening. Walt is a valuable asset because he knows how to make super meth, but heres the deal as a gangster id go with 70% purity, Gale wouldnt be any more valuable than Walt
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 04:39:59 PM

Walt will try and communicate with Jessie again.
Walt will tell Jessie that Gus threatened his family, and that Jessie's family (the hot chick and her son) could be next.
I doubt Mike would flip, but just the fact that he never told Gus about his conversations with Walt, leads me to believe that Mike kept quiet just incase Walt became a viable exit strategy for Mike's early retirement.
Jessie is gonna get a little cocky and misjudge the generosity of Gus up to this point as weakness, and refuse to cook because of the drama with Mr. White. Gus is gonna flex his pimp hand and show Jessie that his freedom of choice in the matter was just an illusion this whole time.
Work condition quickly deteriorate and Jessie's performance does the same, Jessie figures at that point that the only way out was to have listened to what Mr. White had said all along and kill Gus (since Gus likely threatened Jessie's family at this point too just to keep him cooking).
The **** hits the fan after Walt Jr. and Hank's wife are killed. Walt no longer feeling he has anything left to lose becomes Heisenberg X and sets his sights on Gus in the worst way and after Gus is taken care of, Mike immediately stands down since "the boss is dead and he no longer has anyone left to fight for".


I don't expect all of that to happen, but I wouldn't be surprised if some of that came true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 26, 2011, 07:10:08 PM
that certainly would be some good episodes
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2011, 07:17:07 PM
Jessie isn't going to kill Gus. He saved Gus. Now you know where his loyalty lies.

To Mike?
If Jessie has shown anything, it's that the closer he gets to Mike, the more he withdraws from Walt. He even opened the door for the doctors to take Mike first before the doctors realized that Gus was in the backseat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on September 26, 2011, 07:40:40 PM
Dexter: 8.5/10
Episode one got leaked on to the interwebs and I managed to see it. Overall, the show was very good, there was good killing, good progression of Dexter's character, interesting plot setups, and a changing of relationships that I liked to see. I did have two problems with it though: *Note first spoiler is minor, second is major, but I try not to give too much away in either.

1. The first two people he kills he does by electricity. He still ties them down and does his ritual, but still...

2. They've introduced religion to the show in a much bigger way than they did with Santa Muerte. Dexter's apparent main enemy is ritualistic in his killings, but religiously so, and even has a sort of spirit guide with him, though his is physical, unlike Dexter's hallucinations of his dad. Then Dexter is also starting Harrison in Pre-K and takes him to a Catholic school which brings up religious questions for Dexter's life and life overall. I'm a little worried that the show might be trying to tap some of the mysticism of the books, which I didn't like at all.

Pan Am: 7/10 (with a decent probability of getting better)
What happened to Christina Ricci's tits? They're gone. She's like a solid A or weak B now. But anyway, the show was surprisingly interesting, there's a historical spy aspect to go along with what would be expected of a show about stewardesses.

Boardwalk Empire: 8/10
Why the hell didn't they do a recap? Otherwise, great freaking show. I'm not even going to say anything else, just watch it, seriously.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 26, 2011, 08:03:28 PM
They did a recap. It was at the beginning of the show before the "HBO AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" comes on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 27, 2011, 01:00:29 AM
Christina Ricci got them axed around Speed Racer. While I am surre she had her reasons, I am sure nobody anywhere is happy with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 27, 2011, 03:13:42 AM
Newest Doctor Who episode.  Not a bad episode except...  They felt a need to fill there Cyberman  quota..  At least Cyber-gnat came back
It was an alright episode. They could have substituted the Cybermen for just about anything, though. They didn't play a very prominent role, after all.
Yes they could of and I wish they would have.  Except I was glad to see Cyber-Gnat but that's from the old line of Cybermen.

They really didn't. The episode felt like a stop-off to the big arrival which is next week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 27, 2011, 03:14:32 AM
American Dad - Officially funnier tham Family Guy. That episode with Cee Lo was hilarious. And i never get bored of Steve's singing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on September 27, 2011, 10:03:58 AM
They did a recap. It was at the beginning of the show before the "HBO AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" comes on.

Hmmm... somehow my DVR missed that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 27, 2011, 10:09:44 AM
American Dad - Officially funnier tham Family Guy. That episode with Cee Lo was hilarious. And i never get bored of Steve's singing.
The first Season was better then Family guy but then it turned into a Family Guy clone for the most part.  Stopped watching after that.

Also just looked at a picture of Christina Ricci.  Yeah...  She's scary looking.

On Dexter my Wife and I are finishing up last season and I have to say the writers are doing a terrible job with it.  So many inconsistancies with Dexter the character as he been developing the rest of the series.  They are really missing the boat with what it means for Dexter to be a Single Dad and Harrison.  People fly off the handle at a moments notice.  Make assumption at the bat of an eye.  It seems as bad as "You had Grape juice this morning you must have cheated on me."  Then they have the original Black Cop side story going on all over again but with a different cop.  Deb is dating another loser in the big picture.  Lumen is not even pretty or an interesting character.  If the writers don't step up there game then they should just stop.  They are even getting the Mytho wrong.  They had someone taking Pictures of Dexter dumping the bodies into the ocean when its well established he is out there and there wouldn't be a strong enough Telescopic lens to take those pictures.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 27, 2011, 03:53:23 PM
American Dad - Officially funnier tham Family Guy. That episode with Cee Lo was hilarious. And i never get bored of Steve's singing.


"Tractor Boy......Got you in my tractor beam." (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzTyaFtJytw)

And just in case someone didn't see the Cee Lo green episode he's talking about, watch this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlTBwGRomLM
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 27, 2011, 05:16:08 PM
So the season finale to Alphas aired last night, and DAMN it was awesome and epic.  It did everything a season finale should do: it answered some questions, presented a lot more, introduced some new plot twists, showcased some awesome character moments, and ended on an epic cliffhanger to leave the audience wanting more.  I don't want to spoil it for anyone else who hasn't seen it yet so I'll let it at that for now, but suffice it to say that Alphas has officially thrown down the gauntlet to end its first season and I'm very satisfied with that.  I'm eagerly looking forward to this show's return next summer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 27, 2011, 06:41:27 PM
Alphas reminds me alot of The 4400, and that is a very good thing.

and I actually just found out that the show runner from The 4400 has been running the show since after the pilot episode, so that's probably why :P.


I also watched Terra Nova. not bad, shows promise, blah blah blah, but the dinosaur CGI was pretty bad. Almost reminded me Raptor Island, only with an actual budget attached. I guess i kinda hped for better effects considering that Jurassic Park was 15 or years ago and even video have approached a level where they could have done some effects a little better, but I see the show having plenty of room to get better. I'll tune in for a second week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 27, 2011, 06:42:05 PM
MaryJane on BoardWalk empire, they also replayed all the episodes in marathon on Sunday. Which was good, because i got them on my DVR for the HBO preview weekend. Otherwise I wouldn't have it to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on September 27, 2011, 10:15:34 PM
I also watched Terra Nova. not bad, shows promise, blah blah blah, but the dinosaur CGI was pretty bad. Almost reminded me Raptor Island, only with an actual budget attached. I guess i kinda hped for better effects considering that Jurassic Park was 15 or years ago and even video have approached a level where they could have done some effects a little better, but I see the show having plenty of room to get better. I'll tune in for a second week.

My feelings exactly. Exactly like, I was just about to post this but read this first, Jurassic Park reference and everything. Oh but not Raptor Island, I don't even know what that is.



MaryJane on BoardWalk empire, they also replayed all the episodes in marathon on Sunday. Which was good, because i got them on my DVR for the HBO preview weekend. Otherwise I wouldn't have it to watch.


Damn, wish I had seen that... I watched season 5 of Dexter the week before watching the 1st episode and that definitely helped.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on September 27, 2011, 10:16:56 PM
sorry... double post I meant to write in the quick reply and then copy and paste in edit then forgot...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 28, 2011, 05:12:28 AM
My single question for Terra Nova: does the CGI and set design surpass Stargate Universe? which has the best CGI on tv STILL!

Also, does anybody remember Shadow Raiders from the 1990s?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 28, 2011, 12:59:38 PM
Also, does anybody remember Shadow Raiders from the 1990s?

Yes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 28, 2011, 11:25:55 PM
American Dad has been funnier than Family Guy for a long time IMO.

Anyways, my and my GF started watching True Blood and have gotten through the first 2 1/2 episodes. I love it. The third episode got a lot weirder than the first two, but it's interesting. I can't watch the show live even if I wanted to though since I don't have HBO.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 29, 2011, 02:44:42 AM
Also, does anybody remember Shadow Raiders from the 1990s?

Yes.

I REALLY wish that got a third season to wrap it up. After they found the planet engines it really opened up what they could do with that series. Although they never explained how atmosphere and weather was affected by the use of them and how there was never permanent night and winter - but these are minor points.

Wiki does say there was some sort of shield in place, oops.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 29, 2011, 12:43:00 PM
This show had so much potential, and even more now if it were ever to have a video-game... a Star Fox clone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on September 30, 2011, 07:32:45 AM
Person of Interest: 7/10

It's been a long time since I was interested in any sort of cop drama, but what makes this one interesting is that the main guys are neither cops nor government agents, but 'merely' concerned citizens, one of whom has access to a 'big brother' machine being used by the government to prevent another 9/11 but that can also pick out violent crimes that are likely to happen as well. What's holding me back is that I was a little disappointed in the acting from the guy from Lost. I don't know if it's his tone of voice, lack of inflections, or what, but something about the way he talks seems not only false, but is somewhat annoying. I'm trying to accept it as just the way his character talks, but it's hard.

Playboy Club: 2/10
I'm giving it a 2 because of the boobage, but otherwise absolutely terrible. I literally disliked everything about it; the acting, cinematography, story, and execution. The concept is good I suppose, but it just did nothing for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 03, 2011, 08:42:51 PM
Last night's Breaking Bad (Season 4, Episode 12): Holy ****/10

That ending was incredibly intense, and I can't wait to see what they have in store in next week's season finale. The question floating around the internet, though, is whether Gus actually poisoned Brock, or was it Walt. I've seen some pretty detailed theories arguing for the latter, and it doesn't conflict with the episode, but I still don't believe it. Vince Gilligan confirmed that it will be revealed next week, though, so we'll know one way or the other come Sunday.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 03, 2011, 09:07:26 PM
Eon Kid Ep: 1-9

If you like Avatar the Last Airbender and have some time to kill with Netflix.  I would watch some of this you may like it.  Warning Ep. 6 is in the 9th spot on Netflix for some reason.  My son is enjoying the series and I am too.  Its an animated cartoon... Well I'll just link the Title it pretty much sums it up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqtn4CHJdMU)

Though thats just what the story is suppose to be.  In reality theres about 3 or 4 different storylines that are going an at any given time.  Its surprisingly complex in a way and the universe is thought out so far.  The series is 26 episodes and if it continues how I think it will I think that it will be an enjoyable ride.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 03, 2011, 09:20:29 PM

Last night's Breaking Bad (Season 4, Episode 12): Holy ****/10

That ending was incredibly intense, and I can't wait to see what they have in store in next week's season finale. The question floating around the internet, though, is whether Gus actually poisoned Brock, or was it Walt. I've seen some pretty detailed theories arguing for the latter, and it doesn't conflict with the episode, but I still don't believe it. Vince Gilligan confirmed that it will be revealed next week, though, so we'll know one way or the other come Sunday.

The theory I subscribe to at the moment is that Walt had Saul's Bodyguard swap the cig pack off of Jesse, and that was the real reason for the urgent meeting. Walt then brewed up a non lethal poison that would simulate some of the ricin symptoms in a much quicker than ricin. Since Saul is the one that regularly visits the girl and her son, he slipped it to the son somehow.
Knowing that Jesse would realize that the cig was gone, he would automatically assume that since only him and Mr. White were the only 2 that knew about it, it had to have been Walt that took it and gave it to the kid.
Walt knowing that Jesse would come to him had already concocted a story to over sell Gus as the mastermind behind it all and he oversold it perfectly while playing to Jessie over flowing emotions.
Jesse played right into Walt's hands and the team-up is back.

Gus having come to the realization that something isn't right as he got back to his car, stops to think.... "how did the kid get poisoned... if I didn't do it... then it must have been Walt... but Jesse is probably thinking that I did it and that's why he called me here.... it must be some sort of set-up"
so Gus heads back into the hospital to find out if the kid is really poisoned, what kind of poisoning and how they found out about it.


but it will be a long week waiting to find out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2011, 05:11:09 AM
The Family Guy / American Dad / Cleveland Show crossover?

It wasn't a crossover at all. Just a central theme running through each episode (the hurricane itself) resulting in 30 seconds of crossover their houses are NEXT TO EACH OTHER? for no actual reason.

I thought they were actually going to merge the three episodes together and have a 90 minute special where the cast of all three were in one place. Stewie and Roger together would have been a riot, but we got this instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 04, 2011, 10:13:39 AM
Those shows are pretty good at trolling their audience.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2011, 03:01:42 PM
Those shows are pretty good at trolling their audience.

Irritatingly yes. Furthermore, who turned the acid trip on Family Guy down?

It's been gradually getting slower and slower in pace and energy since PTV in season 4 *6 years ago* (which is still the absolute peak of the series), and now we get a "very special episode" in which the plotline which causes Stewie to even say that to start with is a b-plot to another one which itself hits the reset button at the end of the episode.
Ain't there meant to be a hurricane going on?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2011, 03:18:41 PM
Doctor Who - The Wedding of River Song.

MEGATONS!

Did they just effectively reboot the series? Moffat has BALLS for attempting this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 04, 2011, 03:42:43 PM
Homeland

It's a show about terrorists from the producers of 24. I thought the show was good and interesting, until I saw the "This season on Homeland" after the episode. The problem their facing now seems like it's going to be the issue for the whole season which will be lame because it's barely scratching the surface of what I thought/hoped the show was going to be about. This show is on Showtime, and there was a mini-series called Sleeper Cell that I hoped this show would emulate in some way, and while the first episode did whet my appetite, I thought this initial story would be a one or two episode arc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 04, 2011, 03:47:10 PM
Doctor Who - The Wedding of River Song.

MEGATONS!

Did they just effectively reboot the series? Moffat has BALLS for attempting this.
No.

They Rebooted the stinking Universe and didn't really reboot the series.  I really don't see this move as very risky at all.  You could pretty much see that coming.  Still a cool episode though.

I personally think that "The Doctor's Wife" and Episode 12 of this season was riskier then the this one.  Especially "The Doctor's Wife" because its effect will probably last the longest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2011, 03:51:44 PM
Doctor Who - The Wedding of River Song.

MEGATONS!

Did they just effectively reboot the series? Moffat has BALLS for attempting this.
No.

They Rebooted the stinking Universe and didn't really reboot the series.  I really don't see this move as very risky at all.  You could pretty much see that coming.  Still a cool episode though.

I personally think that "The Doctor's Wife" and Episode 12 of this season was riskier then the this one.  Especially "The Doctor's Wife" because its effect will probably last the longest.

I consider it a reboot because:



The name Doctor Who is now linked to the show's core itself. Answer that question and the show ultimately ends.
By still going through with his death they can change the angle in which the Doctor goes about things, meaning he could go "black ops" or anything less obvious.

The potential to go off in any direction now is huge.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2011, 03:55:29 PM
I saw Homeland too, but it was the censored web only version 2 weeks ago.

It grabbed my attention, and I have gotten the uncensored version to watch later.
Gotta finish weeding out all the new show this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 04, 2011, 04:21:58 PM
I personally think that "The Doctor's Wife" and Episode 12 of this season was riskier then the this one.  Especially "The Doctor's Wife" because its effect will probably last the longest.

Agreed. That was a great episode anyway.

I haven't been very fond of the River Song metaplot since the beginning. She became overused after two or three episodes, several seasons back. I was only further disappointed when The Wedding of River Song amounted to little more than a season long cop out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 04, 2011, 04:55:20 PM
After last night's Terrra Nova (the 2nd episode), I'll be removing it from my DVR queue. The show is just awful, with an absolute disregard for accurate portrayals of prehistoric animals. Have you ever heard of flesh-eating rhamphorhynchoids? Neither have I.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 04, 2011, 04:57:54 PM
I personally think that "The Doctor's Wife" and Episode 12 of this season was riskier then the this one.  Especially "The Doctor's Wife" because its effect will probably last the longest.

Agreed. That was a great episode anyway.

I haven't been very fond of the River Song metaplot since the beginning. She became overused after two or three episodes, several seasons back. I was only further disappointed when The Wedding of River Song amounted to little more than a season long cop out.
I go both ways.
I think the River Song Plot was way too drawn out to have a resolution (Dr. Who has set the precedents of not resolving long going plot points before.  Also where is his daughter from that one episode.)
Though I think River Song should have been more of a driving force in a more condensed timeframe.  Including episodes were she is the companion for all intents and purposes.
 
After last night's Terrra Nova (the 2nd episode), I'll be removing it from my DVR queue. The show is just awful, with an absolute disregard for accurate portrayals of prehistoric animals. Have you ever heard of flesh-eating rhamphorhynchoids? Neither have I.
1 out of 1 Dinosaur Expert agree that Terra Nova Needs a Dinosaur Expert.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2011, 05:00:40 PM
I haven't seen the 2nd episode of Terra Nova yet, but I think faithfulness to science went out in the very first episode.  There are SO many questions I have about how communication works back-and-forth with the Alternate Future, given that they've stated the wormhole/singularity/time machine/deus ex machina is a one-way trip. That said, this is a parallel universe and timeline, so who's to say these creatures couldn't have existed?  At this point, I'm treating that show like a new incarnation of Sliders given how random that show is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 04, 2011, 05:13:26 PM
I haven't seen the 2nd episode of Terra Nova yet, but I think faithfulness to science went out in the very first episode.  There are SO many questions I have about how communication works back-and-forth with the Alternate Future, given that they've stated the wormhole/singularity/time machine/deus ex machina is a one-way trip. That said, this is a parallel universe and timeline, so who's to say these creatures couldn't have existed?  At this point, I'm treating that show like a new incarnation of Sliders given how random that show is.

The communication is one way as well, they've never said anything about sending information back to the future. At least not that I picked up on, because I have been looking for such an inconsistency since they first mentioned it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2011, 05:33:16 PM
Well, I had a long post written out here detailing how awesome last night's Season 3 finale to Warehouse 13 was, but it was lost in a random Backspace press.  Damn it.
 
 Suffice it to say, the Warehouse 13 writers have a nasty habit of building-up to an epic game-changing event, and then taking the easy way out and leaving matters on an unsatisfactory note.  That doesn't seem to be the case this time, as there are several major character and story events that happen in this finale that could have major lasting impact on the series moving forward.  The last few minutes of the finale were oddly poignant and beautifully-handled.
 
 I have my fears about the ending, though, where there's a callback to a moment way back in Season 2 that could give the writers an easy out from what they've done in this finale.  I hope they don't take the easy way out and undo what has happened with these characters.  Like Alphas, I'm really looking forward to Warehouse 13's return next Summer.  The show has really come into its own this season.  If you haven't had a chance to catch this series so far, you have a year to catch-up.  I hope you do because this show has been consistently entertaining, and now it's looking like it may be taking that final step to being a great show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 04, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
Also where is his daughter from that one episode.

I've been wondering that for a very long time. I don't think that Moffat necessarily wants to ties into anything that came "before him" though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2011, 05:40:09 PM
The communication is one way as well, they've never said anything about sending information back to the future. At least not that I picked up on, because I have been looking for such an inconsistency since they first mentioned it.

There's just something that really bothers me about how Terra Nova began.  They show this robotic probe that they sent through the vortex, but they were never able to find later on because it appeared in an alternate dimension.  So how did they know they could send people through it, and once people were on the other side how were they able to tell people in the Alternate Future that they were establishing a camp and that they could send people through?

For that matter, how does the Alternate Future know it can send more people through, that the camp isn't filled to capacity or that everyone's not dead?  How do they even know what Terra Nova IS if no one can cross back and communication only works one way?  And how did Taylor know that our main character was in prison before he arrived on Terra Nova?  Was that just information periodically sent over, despite it having no real value to them?  The setup of this show cannot function in a believable manner without 2-way communication, IMO.

Also, given that you'd think communication with people in this camp as they explored the terrain would be a big deal, you'd think they'd have launched a communication satellite or something to make that possible, but that doesn't seem to have been the case.

There's another interesting plot quirk created by Taylor in the pilot.  He said that when he crossed over with his team, he was the first one through and he was on his own for 180 days before the next member of his team arrived and so on.  So does that mean that our main family arrived one-by-one on Terra Nova with a 180 day window between arrivals?

Just so many questions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 04, 2011, 06:01:08 PM
I always thought that they were going to spin off the Doctors Daughter. It also serves as an "out" when the Doctor finally runs out of lives.

This bloody annoying episode lag is driving me nuts. I am up to a month behind. Do they want me to pirate and get it in HD to boot?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 04, 2011, 07:00:11 PM
The communication is one way as well, they've never said anything about sending information back to the future. At least not that I picked up on, because I have been looking for such an inconsistency since they first mentioned it.

The head of the science department said that he put in a request for The Lady Doctor to get transferred to Terra Nova, so there has to be some sort of data flow between the portal'd worlds.

After last night's Terrra Nova (the 2nd episode), I'll be removing it from my DVR queue. The show is just awful, with an absolute disregard for accurate portrayals of prehistoric animals. Have you ever heard of flesh-eating rhamphorhynchoids? Neither have I.

I have never even heard of a rambunctahrianeruedkj or whatever you just said, so I don't think that is the biggest problem with this show.

There's just something that really bothers me about how Terra Nova began.  They show this robotic probe that they sent through the vortex, but they were never able to find later on because it appeared in an alternate dimension.  So how did they know they could send people through it, and once people were on the other side how were they able to tell people in the Alternate Future that they were establishing a camp and that they could send people through?
I came to the same thoughts earlier today when I tried to explain the premise of the show and events of the 1st episode to my girl.... I started to realize that some things didn't really make any sense.

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For that matter, how does the Alternate Future know it can send more people through, that the camp isn't filled to capacity or that everyone's not dead?  How do they even know what Terra Nova IS if no one can cross back and communication only works one way?  And how did Taylor know that our main character was in prison before he arrived on Terra Nova?  Was that just information periodically sent over, despite it having no real value to them?  The setup of this show cannot function in a believable manner without 2-way communication, IMO.

Also, given that you'd think communication with people in this camp as they explored the terrain would be a big deal, you'd think they'd have launched a communication satellite or something to make that possible, but that doesn't seem to have been the case.

There's another interesting plot quirk created by Taylor in the pilot.  He said that when he crossed over with his team, he was the first one through and he was on his own for 180 days before the next member of his team arrived and so on.  So does that mean that our main family arrived one-by-one on Terra Nova with a 180 day window between arrivals?

Just so many questions.

My guess is that they have a data cable running through the portal. That is the only way it makes any sense at this point. And because of this constant flow of data back and forth, they have tweaked the portal to do more instant transfers and no more "lost in time" sequences where people arrive months before someone else that went through at the same time as them.

Of course I'm sure I just put more thought into it than the show runners over there at Fox.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on October 04, 2011, 07:34:59 PM
Broodwars asks so many good questions; the fact that they spent the second episode on a (killer?) bird infestation instead of trying to answer them isn't very promising.

Which may make it good MFT potential \o/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2011, 07:47:34 PM
Incidentally, was anyone else getting a good laugh out of everyone drinking that Blue Milk in the pilot?  The Jurassic Park/Blade Runner/etc. jokes you can make while watching this show are bad enough, but did they really want to give us Star Wars ones we could make, too?   ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 04, 2011, 08:00:24 PM
I was under the impression that the science guy put in the request for his team before leaving, but then again, I don't know how long they've been there. There have been 10 pilgrimages, and they have been in Terra Nova for 10 years, so that's 1 a year if that's the logic. If they only do one a year, and the doctor put in his request before leaving, it would make sense that her departure was delayed due to other getting in first.

As for the unknown species, that could be chalked up to one of two things; 1. their bones didn't survive the eons that passed between them and humanity or 2. they only exist in the separate time stream.

With the beacon and sending people through, they could very well just be guessing. The future is overcrowed and polluted, so if they can send thousands of people of away with a premise of a better future, so be it, even if in reality it means their deaths.


As for the doctor knowing about the jail time, again, that happened over the course of years. I forget now how long they said he was in jail, but it was a few years.

They have some means of steady communication, and judging by the distances they can communicate over, I would say that it is a satellite.

With the family, no they did not arrive 180 apart, rather during the first transfer they didn't realize there would be any delay, or they weren't using enough power, but then that would beg the question why change procedure if they didn't know anything was wrong?

What bothers me is that one of those bird things flew into the weather balloon. I don't think they fly satellite high, but they definitely fly higher than birds.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 04, 2011, 09:24:31 PM
They're not birds, people, they're pterosaurs, like Pterandon.

Halbred's Crazy Dino-Bitching About Terra Nova

Okay. FIRST OFF.

There's no reason to use fictional dinosaurs when there are PLENTY of awesome REAL dinosaurs in the fossil record. I don't know what the f*ck that "Slasher" thing was supposed to be. It was clearly designed by a committee: "Let's put a dilophosaur head on a raptor body, ignore well-established rules regarding wrist orientation in theropods, and then put a spike-thing on its tail!" Don't get me fricking started.

Second, the carnotaurs. I love Carnotaurus. It's my favorite dinosaur (for realz). But if any of the designers had bothered to read Carnotaurus' Wikipedia page, they would have seen that ol' Carnotaurus basically doesn't have arms. It has short little immobile stumps with a paw that was probably encased in soft tissue. Seriously, go look at this bugger's arm. IT'S WIERD. And it would've taken a 2-second internet search to realize that.

It's sad when Disney's Dinosaur gets something right that you can't, FOX.

NEXT COMPLAINT.

Brachiosaurs. Jesus. Talk about a Jurassic Park moment. But these were rubber-necked beasts with lips for some reason. When the Older Daughter called them "Brachiosauri," I wanted to scream, and when she started talking about how they also ate lizards and had differentiated incisors, I wanted to shoot the TV. Also, hey folks, Brachiosaurus lived in North America during the Late Jurassic period. Carnotaurus lived in Patagonia during the Late Cretaceous. THIS ISN'T HARD.

If you want to have Terra Nova in a dinosaur-infested time, pick the Late Jurassic's Morrison Formation. All the sauropods, stegosaurs, ornithopods, and theropods you could want.

Finally, let's get to the rhamphorhychoids.

Everybody here has seen a picture of Rhamphorhynchus. It's a small pterosaur with a long tail that has a diamond-shaped vane on the tip. It has a long snout and long, procurved teeth for CATCHING FISH. In Terra Nova, it's a death-dealing skybound terror. AWESOME. There's also no reason a rhamphorhynchoid (that's the larger paraphyletic group to which Rhamphorhynchus belongs to) would nest on the ground. These animals could barely walk on the ground, and in fact the complete lack of rhamphorhynchoid trackways suggests that they DIDN'T or did very rarely, and when they did they were EATEN. The structure of their uropatagia joined the hind limbs at the ankles. These animals were arboreal. THEY NESTED IN TREES.

YOU IDIOTS (not you readers, the people who made Terra Nova).

GODDAMMIT IT MAKES ME ANGRY.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 04, 2011, 09:52:37 PM
Something else that bothered me about Terra Nova when I watched the pilot that I just remembered: so...with your planet dying and your futuristic society on the verge of extinction, your first solution for your overpopulation problem was to send handfuls of people through an inter-dimensional portal to a prehistoric world that may or may not exist?  You'd think the first option may have been...oh I don't know...space travel?  What, has this futuristic society capable of stabilizing a rift in space and time not invented intergalactic travel?  Has it not even attempted to colonize other worlds, or did humanity's technological advancement stop when we invented the Blade Runner-esque 50 ft. television screens?

EDIT: Oh no...I just saw on IGN that Terra Nova's showrunner is Brannon Braga.  This isn't going to end well, unless Manny Coto miraculously shows up to save this series as well (like he did on Enterprise).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 04, 2011, 11:23:59 PM
They're not birds, people, they're pterosaurs, like Pterandon.

Halbred's Crazy Dino-Bitching About Terra Nova

Okay. FIRST OFF.

There's no reason to use fictional dinosaurs when there are PLENTY of awesome REAL dinosaurs in the fossil record. I don't know what the f*ck that "Slasher" thing was supposed to be. It was clearly designed by a committee: "Let's put a dilophosaur head on a raptor body, ignore well-established rules regarding wrist orientation in theropods, and then put a spike-thing on its tail!" Don't get me fricking started.

Second, the carnotaurs. I love Carnotaurus. It's my favorite dinosaur (for realz). But if any of the designers had bothered to read Carnotaurus' Wikipedia page, they would have seen that ol' Carnotaurus basically doesn't have arms. It has short little immobile stumps with a paw that was probably encased in soft tissue. Seriously, go look at this bugger's arm. IT'S WIERD. And it would've taken a 2-second internet search to realize that.

It's sad when Disney's Dinosaur gets something right that you can't, FOX.

NEXT COMPLAINT.

Brachiosaurs. Jesus. Talk about a Jurassic Park moment. But these were rubber-necked beasts with lips for some reason. When the Older Daughter called them "Brachiosauri," I wanted to scream, and when she started talking about how they also ate lizards and had differentiated incisors, I wanted to shoot the TV. Also, hey folks, Brachiosaurus lived in North America during the Late Jurassic period. Carnotaurus lived in Patagonia during the Late Cretaceous. THIS ISN'T HARD.

If you want to have Terra Nova in a dinosaur-infested time, pick the Late Jurassic's Morrison Formation. All the sauropods, stegosaurs, ornithopods, and theropods you could want.

Finally, let's get to the rhamphorhychoids.

Everybody here has seen a picture of Rhamphorhynchus. It's a small pterosaur with a long tail that has a diamond-shaped vane on the tip. It has a long snout and long, procurved teeth for CATCHING FISH. In Terra Nova, it's a death-dealing skybound terror. AWESOME. There's also no reason a rhamphorhynchoid (that's the larger paraphyletic group to which Rhamphorhynchus belongs to) would nest on the ground. These animals could barely walk on the ground, and in fact the complete lack of rhamphorhynchoid trackways suggests that they DIDN'T or did very rarely, and when they did they were EATEN. The structure of their uropatagia joined the hind limbs at the ankles. These animals were arboreal. THEY NESTED IN TREES.

YOU IDIOTS (not you readers, the people who made Terra Nova).

GODDAMMIT IT MAKES ME ANGRY.

Have you taken a look at this series, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primeval ? I love it, but I would like to know how does it fair with actual knowledge.


Something else that bothered me about Terra Nova when I watched the pilot that I just remembered: so...with your planet dying and your futuristic society on the verge of extinction, your first solution for your overpopulation problem was to send handfuls of people through an inter-dimensional portal to a prehistoric world that may or may not exist?  You'd think the first option may have been...oh I don't know...space travel?  What, has this futuristic society capable of stabilizing a rift in space and time not invented intergalactic travel?  Has it not even attempted to colonize other worlds, or did humanity's technological advancement stop when we invented the Blade Runner-esque 50 ft. television screens?

That's the first thing I thought when I watched a trailer for Terra Nova. It was so bad, I didn't even have the intention of watching Terra Nova just to check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 05, 2011, 03:39:42 AM
I finished the anime series Claymore.

I haven't been able to get into an anime in years. I'm not sure why, but everytime I would turn one on, I would quickly lose interest and turn it off. That didn't happen with Claymore. I actually watched the whole 26 episode series in a few days and enjoyed every second of it. I would love to do a Brood style write up, but that's just not my style, so just know that I enjoyed it.

Now what I want to know is, is there a sequel or follow-up series?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 05, 2011, 05:33:43 AM
Well, most animé is hard to watch because the Japanese don't seem to get tired of clichés. In fact it seems to be the opposite. They openly embrace them and copy. It gets worse, some stuff seems to be downright plagiarism.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 05, 2011, 09:47:47 AM
I think we can establish that Halbred knows more about Dino's then anyone on this board..

I just read an article he wrote on Psittacosaurs where he ripped a new one into a paper on the dinosaur.  Though I would find it amusing to watch a "...frog-kicking, flipper-handed doggy-paddler with the tail of both a crocodile and a lizard, the skin of an ichthyosaur, the tail of a salamander, and the environmental preference of a beaver."  Swimming... and maybe building a dam.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 05, 2011, 09:52:11 AM
I finished the anime series Claymore.

I haven't been able to get into an anime in years. I'm not sure why, but everytime I would turn one on, I would quickly lose interest and turn it off. That didn't happen with Claymore. I actually watched the whole 26 episode series in a few days and enjoyed every second of it. I would love to do a Brood style write up, but that's just not my style, so just know that I enjoyed it.

Now what I want to know is, is there a sequel or follow-up series?

No, according to Anime News Network's database, Claymore only had the 26 episodes.  Having never seen the show (there's just something about that art style that turns me off), it's hard to think of an another series like it to recommend.  You might like...

Darker than Black - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7382 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=7382)

Moribito - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6634 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=6634)

My-Hime - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4155 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=4155) - an older Bandai series I like that takes the concept of "girls fighting monsters" and spins it into Highlander halfway through. 

Hellsing Ultimate - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5114 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5114)

Hell Girl - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5577 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5577)

Just some ideas, but there's plenty of good anime out there, albeit older ones.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 05, 2011, 11:11:15 AM
Darn you Halberd because, of you I saw the intro to the Japanese Ninja Turtles.  I must say that looks Spectacle-bad. Also I did like the newer CGI movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 05, 2011, 11:33:07 AM
I think we can establish that Halbred knows more about Dino's than anyone writing for Terra Nova...

Fixed!


But personally, it's fiction and it's an alternate time stream so...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 05, 2011, 11:41:11 AM
I think we can establish that Halbred knows more about Dino's than anyone writing for Terra Nova...

Fixed!


But personally, it's fiction and it's an alternate time stream so...
...I demand to see Flying Monkeys :P:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 05, 2011, 09:43:20 PM
I think we can establish that Halbred knows more about Dino's than anyone writing for Terra Nova...

Fixed!

But personally, it's fiction and it's an alternate time stream so...

Not an excuse for bad science.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 06, 2011, 03:45:03 AM
I think we can establish that Halbred knows more about Dino's than anyone writing for Terra Nova...

Fixed!

But personally, it's fiction and it's an alternate time stream so...

Not an excuse for bad science.

How so? If a show reliably establishes it's own universe and is own application of science then how can that be bad?

For instance, are you going to take to fault Doctor Who with a 900 year old time travelling alien who flies around in a spaceship phonebox?
Or Primeval with time-travelling portals allowing past and future creatures/dinosaurs (some known, some not) into the present?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 06, 2011, 09:26:04 AM
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If a show reliably establishes it's own universe and is own application of science...
...
I haven't gotten around to watching Terra Nova yet but, it doesn't sound like the show meets that minimum requirement. 

I like cartoons quite a bit but, the best ones only have you suspend belief for 1 or 2 elements when you boil it down.  Now these may be huge, different rules for physics let say, but, you can learn them and see that items are consistent.  I'll just have to watch it.

Now on Dr. Who, they've done a lot of things to change there rules more than once.  Especially since the series resumed.  In its own continuum the Doctor has worked with past versions of himself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Doctors_%28Doctor_Who%29) but, they make a big deal about the Tardis allowing Multiple Amy's to survive. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Girl_Who_Waited)  The Series also only has officially 2 more doctors left.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
American Horror Story - Wednesdays on FX

Well, this should be a fun ride. I'm not gonna critique the show, but I will say that some will find it horrible and others will find it very....umm, interesting.

It's about a family that moves to LA from the East Coast and moves into what may be a Haunted House. I wouldn't call it scary, but I sure as hell will be tuning in next week. I can't tell if it's so bad it's good, or exactly what I wanted expected, but a few more episodes will sort that issue out.

"Ugh, I hate trees" - one of the twins as he hits taps the tree with his bat.

"I want my drugs" - mean girl from the high school

But I will say one more thing. Hot Maid is HOT!!! except when she is old...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 06, 2011, 02:09:38 PM
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But I will say one more thing. Hot Maid is HOT!!! except when she is old...
Pics or it isn't true :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2011, 02:27:45 PM
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But I will say one more thing. Hot Maid is HOT!!! except when she is old...
Pics or it isn't true :P:

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2wn5xqe.jpg)


And when I say hot, I not just talking looks, but actions. She is a slutty maid.


Spoiler from same scene....
http://i56.tinypic.com/riw2ur.jpg
^"cold shower"/"thinking about baseball"/"sobering" moment
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 06, 2011, 02:29:32 PM
After the whole thread that shalt be mentioned.  I'm a little disappointed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2011, 02:52:26 PM
If you were in his position.... you would not have held strong.


She appears to be the old maid to the wife and daughter but the young amid to the husband. She struts around in her thigh high stocking giving him the sexy eyes and pouty lips. The reaon they moved is because he got caught heating on his wife in their bed and they wanted a fresh start. His wife is upset and hasn't touched him in a year and the man had/has needs.
Straight out of the shower, he walks in on the maid masturbating (first pic) and immediately runs away to relieve himself in a similar fashion somewhere else. Later when in his office, the maid comes in and ask if she can clean in there... he declines, but she insist and then struts around the office playing right towards his manly needs and desires. She unbuttons her shirt, grabbing and squeezing her breast, then unfastens her thigh highs and straddles over him. She baits him into cheating again by mentioning that his wife ain't home and how she never mentioned him walking in on her earlier that day... it can be our little secret.



unfortunately, the daughter walked in and saw them, and that was the spoiler pic reminding us that she was really an old maid, not a young sexy one.


The show is twisted and a little creepy rubber suit guy. Right up my alley actually, so I will probably commit myself to atleast the next 3-4 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 06, 2011, 03:00:57 PM
As for Breaking Bad, it seems like everyone is jumping onboard the Walt poisoned Brock bandwagon, which to me makes it seem even less likely. He's shown over the course of the series that he's not very good at planning ahead and I really don't think he's a good enough actor to pull off the scene with Jesse the way he did if he actually had.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 06, 2011, 03:05:22 PM
There was a clip from the guy who plays Gus that if you watched it would lead you to believe that Walt was the likely culprit as the actor explains the motivations behind his character Gus and how he didn't know that the kid was poisoned

Of course it could be Tyrus, but there is only 1.5 more days till we find out for sure. But just looking at they way everything is being foreshadowed, I think that Walt is likely the one who poisoned the boy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on October 07, 2011, 10:40:26 AM
I liked American Horror Story as well. It should be good the way everything is connected and mysterious and individualized.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on October 09, 2011, 08:56:20 AM
...
But I will say one more thing. Hot Maid is HOT!!! except when she is old...
Pics or it isn't true :P: : :

(http://i56.tinypic.com/2wn5xqe.jpg)


And when I say hot, I not just talking looks, but actions. She is a slutty maid.


Spoiler from same scene....
http://i56.tinypic.com/riw2ur.jpg (http://i56.tinypic.com/riw2ur.jpg)
^"cold shower"/"thinking about baseball"/"sobering" moment

This reminds me very much of a scene from the first season of Misfits. But both fortunately and unfortunately you get to see a lot more of both sides of that transformation in that example though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 09, 2011, 01:00:39 PM
Breaking Bad fans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugY6HNLOCo&feature=related
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2011, 04:32:51 PM
No. this is for Breaking Bad fans :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtZpo89mmJo
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 10, 2011, 11:10:31 AM
I watched the entire 1st season of The Walking Dead yesterday on Netflix.

As of Thursday, I'm caught up on all of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia on DVD.

I have Louie on DVD as well. I'll probably start that this week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on October 10, 2011, 01:09:14 PM
I just finished Louie S1 on Netflix, what a devastating, dark, brilliant show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 10, 2011, 04:56:42 PM
HOLYSH!T @ Breaking Bad

I have a new avatar for Halloween but I'm not gonna start using it yet because it is VERY spoilerish.

Those that have seen the episode know what I'm talking about. So if you haven't seen Breaking bad yet, you have 1 week to catch up before I ruin it for you.
unless heavily request not to use spoilertar

Fucking gruesome.
Now i need to go back and see how many my predictions came true (I'm gonna guess that it was most if not all of it)


Spoiler Teaser Hint:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPYese-Hl8M#t=27s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPYese-Hl8M#t=27s)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 10, 2011, 09:56:04 PM
lol I already know what the halloween avatar is, i like how Gus just walked out of the door and adjusted his tie, that man is a straight up gangster to the bone.

edit: here BnM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/horroravatars/gus.jpg

and an animated one!
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/horroravatars/gus1.gif

edit: brighter version
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r259/theultimateperm/horroravatars/gus3.gif
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 11, 2011, 12:16:39 AM
Dexter....

Finally, it starts to get interesting. I could give a **** about office politics or the asian dude being a perv (though I did laugh a couple times). We finally have an interesting character and the fact that he's played by Mos Def makes it even better. The whole issue of God and Religion was getting boring until now.

The main villain this season is probably the worst actor I've ever seen though. Still, I can't wait to see how he kills again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 12, 2011, 01:47:05 PM
Normally I wouldn't write up an individual episode on a long running series like NCIS, but this is, in the words of Christoper Walken "This guy is Unfucking Believable (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFKylgGk73I)".

Now, I don't watch shows like NCIS for it's intelligence, or it's America **** yeah jingoism, but for the absurdity. This particular episode was more absurd than usual which means it's outright asinine. This episode was called Kill Screen (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1683256/). Yes it is that kind of Kill Screen (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_screen), so it's a computer and gamer episode all wrapped up in one!

The case starts off simple enough, pick pocket pick pocketing until security busts him. (Un)fortunately the purse he just nabbed contains finger tips and teeth. The team quickly ID the remains and just as quickly conclude the guy is already dead. A little later local police find his remains and they discover he is also a feet "taller" than he should be. They learn nothing from him besides knowing he was horrifically tortured and killed.

McGee the resident tech head has been having issues with his computer which quickly draws the attention of an agent from another alphabet soup agency who implies McGee is hack his own computers for classified information. McGee has actually done this before, but no one has ever given him **** about it.

So the team goes off chasing down the dead guy's relations. They zero in on one of his ex-girlfriends who was now using a dead mans credit card. It turns out she is some hot gamer chick so everyone passes her on to McGee, because you know, he is one of those people. The chick goes on about how awesome of a gamer she is and how she has the HIGH SCORE on a DOZEN MMORPGs. I leave it to you as to how "Unfucking believable" this is. they suffer a drive by shooting almost immediately after the gamer girl shows McGee the kill screen she ran into in one of her MMORPGs.

The kill screen contains some sort of encrypted code and no one can make heads or tails of it initially, but they very quickly find a money trail to an arms dealer coming out of the game company leading to a programmer who is now missing. Some more bread crumb clues later they find the programmer dead, naturally in some run down building that looks like the insides of a ship. The architecture is all over the place. He has been dead for over half a week with his fingers and teeth gone. They figure the arms dealer didn't do it since he was nowhere near the country at the time so they turn to the only other person in the investigation who might have knowledge of the goings on of this case. They interrogate the agent from the other agency and with a bit of "We have evidence on you trickery" the rogue agent blurts out a confession that he kill those people because they were hacking into the Pentagon and no body else was doing anything about it.

The bad thing is that the first guy he "Enhanced interrogated" and killed had nothing to do with it, the programmer only wrote the tools to hack the Pentagon, didn't use it, meaning he committed no crime and he committed attempted murder on gamer chick who stumbled on the kill screen. So Special Agent Man is 0 - 3. Also the arms dealer having paid for the tools never received it, so he gets out of jail for free. 0 - 4.

Then things get completely FUBAR. The programmer had wrote in a dead man switch in the program he had inserted in the MMORPG which has 15 MILLION users and they all happen to be connected concurrently. It starts hacking the Pentagon with the goal of wiping all data from Americas defence network. McGee ascertains there is a central server controlling all these computers and attempts to back hack. With what could only be described as divination, they figure out where the physical server is. They return to where they found the dead programmer (Way to fucking go clearing the crime scene) and discover a false wall. Gibbs the team leader kicks the wall down setting off every alarm in the building and trapping the two fellow agent following him, leaving him alone. McGee in the process of back hacking finds a real time map of the building the away team is with flashing skulls and triangles. Mcgee's background contains this.

(http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/5088/eyetvsnapshott.jpg)
It explodes and has sound effects and everything.

(http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/9922/eyetvsnapshot1u.jpg)
Mcgee now has to guide agent Gibbs through the trap filled maze with a first person camera. He controls Gibbs like a first person shooter with his voice. McGee has a "Revelation" that it's all just a game. This has some very poor results.  Gibbs proceeds to get gassed, almost gets set on fire then blown up while a helpful female voice proclaims in the wrong order which firewall has been breached. Even when Gibbs is flat on his back the gun on the screen never moves. The man has an absolute death grip on his gun. It's practically a skull gun.

Entering the server room they lose video and sound starts breaking down. Gibbs is half deaf from getting blown up. After pulling all the power cords nothing happens, so McGee tells his computer illiterate boss who hates computers to use the UNIX command line. Gibbs obviously having a bad day starts shooting, McGee freaks out. Cut back to Gibbs who has shot up the computers including most of the screens. Then to salt the wound one of the computer fans and screen starts up again exactly where it was before. Gibbs shoots again breaking the final screen, killing it. You see what they did there HAHAHA. Your KILLING ME.

This is some seriously bad TV. It so bad it's bad all the way to it's so bad, it's ironically funny. Unholy ****.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 12, 2011, 02:08:42 PM
That is particularly bad but, using MMO Clients for hacking isn't a bad idea.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 12, 2011, 02:22:34 PM
It would be easier to use and build a normal botnet rather than to to make WoW do distributed computing. Between Q&A, other coders and ever vigilant power users, hiding the code would be near impossible for any lengthy period of time before it tracks back to you.

If you really want to hack something just hire an existing botnet or a commercial cluster. Going through WoW is doing it the hard way.

edit.

I forgot to mention this little gem. When McGee arrive at Gamer Girl's house he quickly spots her computer tower and say "Is that a 12 Core?" GG replies "16 with a 10 Meg pipe, I need the faster response times for the newer online games, there are a lot of people after my high scores."

Mind fucking blown.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2011, 04:33:30 PM
What does that mean!?

Is that a real thing? 16 Core with a 10Meg Pipe?

I've actually seen that episode too, I think it was also part of a compilation of all the retarded gamer related episodes found on TV somewhere. I'm gonna go look for it.

edit:
Here is the scene you just mentioned
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRhGPVYRsOY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRhGPVYRsOY)

edit2:
Here is one from Life on NBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFfJ4ZC1AtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFfJ4ZC1AtA)

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 12, 2011, 04:37:18 PM
NCIS has another real gem of a gamer episode besides this one.  They should just stop.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 12, 2011, 04:58:31 PM
edit2:
Here is one from Life on NBC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFfJ4ZC1AtA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFfJ4ZC1AtA)

Ugh, I'd heard about that sequence, but I'd never seen it.  Good god, someone was actually paid to write something so wrong on so many levels (pun not intended).  I especially love the "Game over" text they splashed over the screen with references to X # of levels in Prince of Persia: Two Thrones, a game that does not have levels and has a rewind mechanic.  Yeah...

Incidentally, on your recommendation I've started watching The 4400.  I'm on episode 4 of the 5-episode first season, and so far I really like the show.  It has an interesting premise with a mystery I want to see solved, it has likeable characters with situations I want to follow, there's just enough of a mystical hook to the series to keep things interesting, the acting is consistently believable, and it manages to avoid annoyingly-obvious TV tropes that other shows like this haven't.  For instance, there isn't the faintest bit of sexual attraction between the two investigative partners.  They're partners with their own lives outside of work, and that is all.  Man, that's refreshing.

The show could stand to pick up the pace a bit, as some of the episodes so far are a little too ponderous, but so far it's been a pretty good show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2011, 07:20:51 PM
It get's better, and better all the way up to the climax in s4.

The 4400 is sorta what Heroes was biting off of, but The 4400 was soo much better... as is Alphas (on SyFy).

Once it get's going, you will get into it.
I used to love that show. I wish Netflix would pick it back up and finish it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 12, 2011, 08:46:25 PM
Somehow the lack of a cliffhanger on the Breaking Bad finale is more annoying to me than a cliffhanger would have been. I can't wait for next season, and want to do some crazy speculation, but I don't have anything to base it on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2011, 09:38:05 PM
How about knowing that Hank will now he was right about Gus after seeing him dead at the old folks home with a known Cartel member and the fire leading to a giant Meth Lab under his laundry mat.

and then knowing that Hank is on the case now with FULL DEA (I'm sorry, "Dee-ah" is not a complete word... do you want to finish it?) backing, Jessie and Walt have to work together to keep off the radar and make sure they covered up all their tracks. Mike may now come back into the picture to tie up any loose ends that will lead back to anyone alive that was involved.
But will Mike be pissed about Gus dying? or will he just move on since "he has no one left to fight for" or whatever Gus said after killing off the Cartel in Mexico?


now that Jessie is off the hook for the poisoning, he is still gonna want to know what happened to the Ricin Cig, so he is gonna continually bring it up to Walt who will eventually respond with "I took it to Protect You" or something along those lines and then Jessie is gonna put 2 and 2 together to realize that Walt poisoned the kid and played him for a fool.

and since Hank is back on the case with full confidence in himself since he was proven right, he is gonna start questioning some of Walt's weird reactions and strongly suspect that Walt is infact Heisenberg this whole time.

So now we all wonder if Walt & Jessie get back to cooking to make ends meet (gotta pay off Mike for cleaning up this mess... and cutting off his revenue stream) and keep the pipeline going. Not anywhere near the multi-state volume they had before, but Mike knows the ins and outs of the business, so they should still have a supply line intact.

That leads us to assume that next season will most-likely be Jessie & Walt vs Hank/DEA which will eventually lead to Jessie vs Walt vs Hank/DEA

But either way next season is 16 episodes split into two 8 episode arcs over the next 2 years.
So that should give you something to base it on ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 12, 2011, 09:48:32 PM
You confused me with the multiple Hank/Walt changes but I understand what you meant. You might be right relationship wise but I think a new comer has to join the scene and I think I know where to find him/her. Who was Gus supplying to? How did they make all that money? Who is going to be fucking pissed to hear Gus gone and his supply of the best meth never to be made again?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 12, 2011, 09:52:59 PM

How about knowing that Hank will now he was right about Gus after seeing him dead at the old folks home with a known Cartel member and the fire leading to a giant Meth Lab under his laundry mat.

and then knowing that Hank is on the case now with FULL DEA (I'm sorry, "Dee-ah" is not a complete word... do you want to finish it?) backing, Jessie and Walt have to work together to keep off the radar and make sure they covered up all their tracks. Mike may now come back into the picture to tie up any loose ends that will lead back to anyone alive that was involved.
But will Mike be pissed about Gus dying? or will he just move on since "he has no one left to fight for" or whatever Gus said after killing off the Cartel in Mexico?


now that Jessie is off the hook for the poisoning, he is still gonna want to know what happened to the Ricin Cig, so he is gonna continually bring it up to Hank who will eventually respond with "I took it to Protect You" or something along those lines and then Jessie is gonna put 2 and 2 together to realize that Hank poisoned the kid and played him for a fool.

and since Hank is back on the case with full confidence in himself since he was proven right, he is gonna start questioning some of Walt's weird reactions and strongly suspect that Walt is infact Heisenberg this whole time.

So now we all wonder if Hank & Jessie get back to cooking to make ends meet (gotta pay off Mike for cleaning up this mess... and cutting off his revenue stream) and keep the pipeline going. Not anywhere near the multi-state volume they had before, but Mike knows the ins and outs of the business, so they should still have a supply line intact.

That leads us to assume that next season will most-likely be Jessie & Walt vs Hank/DEA which will eventually lead to Jessie vs Walt vs Hank/DEA

But either way next season is 16 episodes split into two 8 episode arcs over the next 2 years.
So that should give you something to base it on ;)

Those are all plausible scenarios. I really hope they bring Mike into it again, I love his character. But yeah, going up against Hank and the DEA is definitely where this is heading.




You confused me with the multiple Hank/Walt changes but I understand what you meant. You might be right relationship wise but I think a new comer has to join the scene and I think I know where to find him/her. Who was Gus supplying to? How did they make all that money? Who is going to be fucking pissed to hear Gus gone and his supply of the best meth never to be made again?


That's assuming Gus was actually answering to someone and not merely using his position to facilitate his own scheme, without the knowledge of those above him in the legitimate corporation. And even if there were someone, I think they might be just as likely to stay out of it and go dark because, like BnM said, there will be a massive DEA investigation into the whole operation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2011, 10:06:02 PM
I fixed it to end confusion.

but yes, Heisenberg & Jesse going back into business may be a forced decision by big players from the other end of the supply chains forcing them to cook. The thing is that they wouldn't know who Walt and Jesse are since Gus never introduced them to the other end due to competitive reasoning. That would mean that Mike would have to come back into the picture and relay the message... or help them both disappear. Since Mike is "The Cleaner" after all (who I assume would be the same person on the other end of that phone number that Walt never called since he didn't have the money - that will be Mike's entrance call for next season).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 13, 2011, 04:59:28 AM
people are going to be itching to get some chicken. I had always assumed that maybe they put meth in the chicken to get people addicted, in very small doses and not in every batch. Of course so many people would fail drug tests, so that's less plausible, but they could have gone there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 14, 2011, 10:49:48 AM
I watched the pilot of Bones. I liked it. Odd choice of music considering one of the main character's quirks is her lack of pop culture knowledge and social awkwardness. Not sure if they were being ironic or just wanted to use those songs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 14, 2011, 11:12:12 AM
pilot for bones?

where is that?

how long has bones been on the air now?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 14, 2011, 11:54:24 AM
I think Bones is entering its 7th season. My coworker is a huge fan and has been recommending it for a while. I noticed Bones on Netflix the other day and checked it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 16, 2011, 03:32:14 AM
Just finished the second season of The 4400, and while the show is still good some problems are starting to pop up, particularly with the writing.  For one thing, the whole concept of the show of why the 4400 were abducted and what they were sent back to prevent reminds me uncomfortably of the very similar (and very poorly handled) "temporal cold war" from Star Trek: Enterprise.  The whole thing is just spectacularly vague, and the fact that only one person on this show even seems to question the motives of the abductors and the logic behind following them is absurd.  I keep waiting for Scott Bakula to stand up and tell the abductors to "go **** off", like he did in Enterprise.  Amusingly, in another Enterprise connection, it looks like this is where Jeffrey Combs went after the show was canceled.  More Jeffrey Combs can only be a good thing.   :D

There's also a very shoddily handled plot element in Tom's new wife, a character literally created by plot contrivance in a single episode just so he would have a wife from here on out.  Words can't even begin to describe how bad an idea this was and how bad the execution for it similarly is.  At least there's a long-awaited payoff with Diana possibly finding herself a future "partner", in a plot thread that's taken 2 seasons to come to fruition.

And oh look...it's Garret Dillahunt playing the same frickin' character with the same complete lack of emotion or expression that he played on Terminator: The Sarah Conner Chronicles.   ::)

Overall, a good season but the writers need to step up their game.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2011, 01:53:45 PM
I think season 3 is where things begin to get much more intense with a major push on plot progression.

I don't remember exactly what happened at the end of season three so i'm trying to be extremely vague, but i'm glad you are enjoying it despite it's issues.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 18, 2011, 12:12:59 AM
So The Walking Dead premiered its 2nd season on Sunday night, and I have to ask: did anyone else walk away strangely uninterested by it?  I enjoyed the first season so I was looking forward to this, but something just didn't click with me about this first episode and I'm not quite sure what.  The show was just as gore-y (if not more so) as usual; the acting was just as good as usual; and the episode's situation was as appropriate for the story as usual.

Hmm...maybe it's the characters.  I remember generally finding them an interesting enough bunch last season, but for some strange reason I just don't care about most of them now.  And considering this episode was all about the characters wandering around and bickering at each other while looking for another character I barely know, the episode seemed to go on forever and yet accomplish nothing.

Well, here's hoping this will be a good season, because this show had a lot of promise last year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 18, 2011, 12:36:51 AM
there were too fucking many commercials is what happened, there would be 3 minutes of show, 5 minutes of commercial, im tempted next week to just do something else while my DVR tapes it. Plus a whole lot of Nothing happened really till the end.  If they can start to veer back into the comics territory then we can get somewhere. Things will be changed just to keep you interested. Also, Tyreese should be coming soon, I had thought T-dog was going to be Tyreese, but Tyreese is a badass and so far T-dog isn't. Theres speculation Keith Allen Hayes will be Tyreese.

edit: or that was a bit of self promotion on the Walking Dead Wiki, Who knows, but **** will get interesting once they introduce some of the newer characters in walking dead, id hate all future episodes to be mundane "searching through parked cars" episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on October 24, 2011, 08:16:51 PM
Breaking Bad Season 4. ∞/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 25, 2011, 05:42:25 AM
Breaking Bad Season 4. ∞/10

That's not nearly a high enough score.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 25, 2011, 05:04:50 PM
I can't figure out if I like "Two Broke Girls" or not. Always been a fan of Kat Dennings (GUESS WHY), and whole the show's premise is interesting, it just feels way too scripted. I suppose all first-season shows are like that, but...eh. It often feels like the characters are reading cue cards.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 25, 2011, 08:45:10 PM
In the spirit of Halloween and a bit of whimsy, I've started watching random old episodes of that old "SNICK" show Are You Afraid of the Dark?  When I was a kid, I loved this show but oddly I can only remember probably a handful of episodes from it.  Watching it now, though, is kind of...painful but not altogether bad.  The child acting in most of the episodes is pretty cheesy; the production values are pretty weak (even by 90s standards); and outside a couple of well-done twists the writing is pretty "Goosebumps" (i.e. it's kind of lame and predictable).  It's hard to bag on the show too much, though.  The show was meant to be a kid-friendly version of Tales From the Crypt, and for what it is it probably succeeds.  It's not a bad show overall, but man I wish these stories had more bite to them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2011, 02:58:11 PM
Finally finished X-Files yesterday. 8.5/10

It was all really good for the most part aside from Season 7 where you could tell Moulder was just dialing it in. The introduction of Agent Doggett really helped the show out as it needed a new skeptic since Scully was so deep into everything at that point that there was no longer any question in her mind that the X-Files were bogus and without Moulder, she wasn't holding my interest at all (although Gillian Anderson "Scully" became really attractive over the course of the series).

The biggest down points throughout the series though were the episodes that focused on Scully. Or should I say any episodes that didn't focus heavily on Moulder and in the later eps, Doggett.

I have to go back and rewatch all the movies now that I know all the back story for them. All 202 episodes of back story. I wonder if I will like the movies more the second time around?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 26, 2011, 05:30:12 PM
You should have watched the first film (Fight the Future) in chronological order with the show. I believe it takes place right after Season 5.

I'd say that many of the later episodes fail strictly because they are so heavily tied into the overarching mythology of the series. Those were always boring episodes, right from the beginning. The move to focus almost exclusively on them did not make anything better. Outside of that, the series changes drastically in tone around season 6 or 7, where the bulk of the one-offs are much more humorous. Not a bad thing in and of itself, but the monotony grew weary pretty quick.

For me, I never much liked Doggett. Reyes was even worse. To be fair though, I don't think you could have necessarily come up with a better set of characters. By that point, the X-Files was Mulder and Scully... no one really could have replaced them. Even to that point, Mulder and Scully were wearing thin due to a lack of compelling episodes. For all of its faults, the mainline show still had a handful of gems right up to the end. I really can't stand much of Seasons 8 and 9 though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2011, 06:03:45 PM
I thought 7 was so bad that I almost gave up on the show.

I don't remember specifically everything wrong with it, but I remember it just seeming like Mulder wasn't into it and Scully couldn't carry it. Introducing Doggett (in s8 i think?) was a breath of fresh air for the show after Mulder left as it switched the formula back up to something much closer to the beginning of the show with a hard skeptic and a believer. Someone who had seen it with their own to eyes and someone who thought there had to be a reasonable explanation and anything else was crazy talk.
So I thought s8 & most of s9 were much better after sludging through s7. I admit that s9 had a few corny Scully Reyes eps (numerilogical episode with the musical), but over all I enjoyed it.

p.s. I was gonna watch the movies in time with the show, but Netflix didn't have them streaming, so I didn't bother.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 26, 2011, 07:13:55 PM
Like I said, Season 7 was just goofy. Not bad, but the tone was way off from earlier seasons.

I appreciate the attempt they made at switching the roles up. It wasn't a bad idea to flip Scully's role, but I didn't think Doggett really ever provided a strong inverse. Heck, he comes off as plain old dumb in a lot of the episodes. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2011, 07:46:36 PM
I didn't see it as dumb, just old fashioned and "it has to be this... because that's just crazy"

You gotta remember that he didn't want to be on the X-Files, but was put there as some sort of punishment to slow his crawl to the top or something. They were trying to discredit him as much as possible by making him sound as crazy as Mulder, so he would try hard to not accept that there was any such thing as "supernatural phenomenon" as he has been doing this job for 35+ years and never ran into any such **** as that before.

Once he realized that there was some sort of consipiracy going on and witnessed things with his own eyes, the series was practically over at that point, so his delayed acceptance of the things we already knew to be true just came off as ignorance on his part.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on October 26, 2011, 09:14:51 PM
It wasn't so much his disbelief of what was going on that made him seem dumb. I don't expect someone to immediately buy into an alien conspiracy. That said, it has been years since I've really watched any of those later episodes. I wouldn't be able to accurately point out any specific instances of Doggett's personality to back up my opinion. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 29, 2011, 02:16:02 AM
I haven't really settled into a show I'm in the mood to watch lately, so I've just been watching a little of a bunch of shows (mostly anime).  So some quick impressions:

The Walking Dead (s2 ep. 2) - I'm very quickly getting to the point where I want to see half this cast suffer horrible, agonizing deaths.  Despite the appearance of seemingly likeable characters in this episode, the sheer amount of angst and whining from much of the cast is getting really annoying.  And this show really needs to start picking up the pace, because this show is getting really hard to watch.  It's still not a bad show...yet.

Fire Emblem (anime OVA) - Yes, this is a show that actually existed.  It was made in 1996, and looks like it was made in 1986.  ADV's English dub also sounds like it hails from that era, and if you remember their dubs from that era that's mostly not a good thing (especially with the horrendous lip-synching.  The animation's about average for mid-90s anime, but the show's surprisingly not that bad.  It's pretty standard-issue fantasy, with Prince Marth (or "Mars" as this show calls him) trying to start a revolution to retake his kingdom and it feels pretty true to the games.

The main problem with this show? It's only two episodes long, so the show literally begins just as it gets going and doesn't even attempt to resolve its story.  It just stops.  Yeah, why'd you even bother, Nintendo?

X-Men (anime) - Completely pointless so far (with only the pilot having aired).  There is literally NOTHING this show does that hasn't been done before and done better in either comic or animated form.  Of course it looks like the show's going to take place completely in Japan with a new Japanese schoolgirl mutant as the McGuffin, because apparently that's all the Japanese writers know how to do after pretty much using this same plot in the Iron Man and Wolverine anime series.  Not a bad show, but so far it doesn't look like it has a reason to exist.  At least Steven J. Blum is playing Wolverine again after the character was horribly miscast in his own anime.

Monster (anime)
-  I just started watching this show, and as it is 74 episodes long and I'm only 3 episodes in I have a long way to go.  Right now, I could go either way on this series.  The art and animation are pretty poor by Madhouse standards (man, I've had reason to say that a lot lately), but the dub is pretty decent and the story has potential. 

The story is about a young surgeon in 1980s Germany who sacrifices his career to save a young boy dying from a gunshot wound...who then grows up to become a serial killer.  Yeah, this show's looking to be a rather dark character study, and it's certainly intriguing.  I just wish the show would pick up the pace a bit, because it moves incredibly slowly.

And hey, Thundercats is back with an episode focusing on everyone's favorite Ewok clones from the original series: the Ro-Bear Berbils.   :D   The hilarious thing about the episode is the moral of the story: Wily-Kit and Wily-Kat getting high on Candy Fruit (http://www.toonzone.net/news/image.php?imageID=16844&___r=%2Fnews%2Farticles%2F39215%2Fthundercats-clip-amp-stills-for-oct-28-2011-premiere-episode-berbils%2F) to make themselves so buzzed that they can dance around attacking enemies.  See kids?  When you're in trouble, just get high!   ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 29, 2011, 07:03:41 AM
Yeah Walking Dead Season 2, its got one more episode to pick up before I just start DVR-ing it so i can watch it in a spree. ****, when I was reading the Volumes, I thought about how each Volume would fit perfectly into a season of TV. Now there's filler, and its like wtf is the point? The show is expensive enough as it is to make, no need to add filler. The show will be taken off before the plot gets anywhere. This "character driven" angle idea their tossing around doesn't bode well. Lost did the same thing and ultimately failed miserably at the end because the plot eventually sucked. Breaking Bad is like watching a movie, though I think there was a stale episode here and there it ultimately payed off in spades. So, we can hope.  I've read 13 volumes, and it takes me about 1- 2 hours to read a volume. So it is possible to make these shows faster paced. The rate at which were going, we'll never get to volume 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 30, 2011, 05:19:49 AM
I'm trying to watch the pilot episode of Terra Nova. I'm about 20 minutes in and i'm bored.

You know how Lost or SGU or even Fringe established its universe in the opening episode? This isn't really doing that. I'm going to stop soon. What is this series ABOUT?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 31, 2011, 10:31:24 AM
I'm trying to watch the pilot episode of Terra Nova. I'm about 20 minutes in and i'm bored.

You know how Lost or SGU or even Fringe established its universe in the opening episode? This isn't really doing that. I'm going to stop soon. What is this series ABOUT?
Making Halbred Mad.  That is its whole purpose in existance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 31, 2011, 10:00:49 PM
I'm trying to watch the pilot episode of Terra Nova. I'm about 20 minutes in and i'm bored.

You know how Lost or SGU or even Fringe established its universe in the opening episode? This isn't really doing that. I'm going to stop soon. What is this series ABOUT?
Making Halbred mad.  That is its whole purpose in existance.

Indeed. It makes me want to punch a small child. More than usual.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 31, 2011, 10:31:48 PM
I'm trying to watch the pilot episode of Terra Nova. I'm about 20 minutes in and i'm bored.

You know how Lost or SGU or even Fringe established its universe in the opening episode? This isn't really doing that. I'm going to stop soon. What is this series ABOUT?
Making Halbred mad.  That is its whole purpose in existance.

Indeed. It makes me want to punch a small child. More than usual.
You watched another episode didn't you?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 01, 2011, 04:34:08 AM
That's the thing... i didn't even SEE a dinosaur (i must have been less than 5 minutes away) and i was bored.

You know the series is off to a bad start creatively when it has to info-dump its premise on you by TEXT in the opening scene.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 01, 2011, 08:13:34 AM
I tend to like series that jump your right into the middle of it when everything is established.  Then just sort of gives you the premise and like as it going with maybe an origin episode later.  Thats one of the things I hate about the new Spider-man movie coming.  They are going to do the Origin again.  For goodness sakes if its Spider-man, Batman, or Superman people in mainstream culture know what the origin is or can ask the person next to them.  Just skip it and get into it.   Like the most recent Ninja Turtle movie did and there origin is more obscure
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2011, 04:53:21 PM
The latest episode of Pan Am

Christina Ricci was all kinds of FINE in this episode.

normally she has to be careful how she wears her hair because of her big ass forehead, and her looking too skinny can throw her whole look off, but in this episode she could do no wrong. She was absolutely perfect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 01, 2011, 05:20:19 PM
I tend to like series that jump your right into the middle of it when everything is established.  Then just sort of gives you the premise and like as it going with maybe an origin episode later.  Thats one of the things I hate about the new Spider-man movie coming.  They are going to do the Origin again.  For goodness sakes if its Spider-man, Batman, or Superman people in mainstream culture know what the origin is or can ask the person next to them.  Just skip it and get into it.   Like the most recent Ninja Turtle movie did and there origin is more obscure

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with getting into the series with its premise established. SGU did that (by assuming continuity from SGA and SG1) and Lost did it in its later seasons by developing the backstory over the 50 years prior to the pilot. What Terra Nova did was just barf the issue out in 90 seconds of text (THE WORLD IS DYING AND OUR HOPE IS GOING BACK IN TIME). It just suggested a lack of grace and a scripting problem if they had to do that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 01, 2011, 09:26:16 PM
@Ceric: I did not. I have not since the 2nd episode, and I have not looked back. I've considered it, then my wife reminds me that I'd just end up angry.

@BlackNMild2K1: Remember when Ricci actually had some meat on her bones? That kid was Top Ten material, I'm not even kidding. Then she gutted herself for "Black Snake Moan" and never bothered to eat again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2011, 09:56:15 PM
I do remember, and to be honest, there was a trashy sexiness about her in BSM, but she has hit a perfect balance in this last episode that didn't quite seem to pull together in previous episodes.

I should post some screen caps.... maybe later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on November 02, 2011, 12:30:27 AM
Tonight's Last Man Standing was a giant step above recent episodes. In this one, Mike encouraged one daughter to go to college, made the other one not turn in a plagiarized homework paper, and got the youngest one to play in the company baseball game as the pitcher. 5 American apple pies out of 5.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 02, 2011, 01:03:14 AM
Terra Nova is one of the best new shows IMO, and off to a great start. Lost was mentioned earlier, but I HATED the first 6 episodes of that (was so bored that I just stopped watching). The first episode was especially good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 03, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
Holy hell, I just saw the infamous episode of Top Gear goes to America. It was funny through out, but WTF America, ****, you guys have issues. I know it's TV and they were taking the Mickey out of you at every opportunity, but America had to be the worse country they had visited up to that point. Mind you I haven't seen the Iraq episode which I hear could be worse.

Top Gear, as always, in Top Gear.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 03, 2011, 12:07:53 PM
Terra Nova is one of the best new shows IMO, and off to a great start.

I have to respectfully disagree.  I had issues with the pilot but generally found it enjoyable, but I haven't been able to force myself to watch any of the episodes after it to completion.  It's just so uninteresting and by-the-numbers genre show.  And that's 45 minutes of my life every week I can put towards a show, movie, or game I actually enjoy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2011, 12:56:17 PM
There was a dinosaur in the last one for about 15 seconds (literally... I'm not joking)

2-3 seconds in the beginning when it killed someone, again for about 5-7 seconds when they hunted it down and then again for about 4-5 seconds at the end when a baby one hatched.

At this point I'm still tuning in just to see how they explain the communication with the future.
I'm still not sure why the murder was setup(maybe I missed a detail... my attention was very divided while "watching" that show) so maybe someone can catch me up on that.

Also whatever happened to the Commander's son? the one that was writing mathematical messages on the rocks?
Seems like such a random thing to bring up only to never really mention it again up to this point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 03, 2011, 05:33:57 PM
They are setting up future plotlines, so not everything is explained right away.
The murder really happened, they just set up the one guy to confess to basically make the real killer lower his guard.

Not every episode will feature a lot of dinosaurs, this was more about the characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 03, 2011, 06:04:17 PM
They are setting up future plotlines, so not everything is explained right away.

Not every episode will feature a lot of dinosaurs, this was more about the characters.

See, I saw these exact same excuses being used for Lost, and Lost turned out to be total **** by the end.  I'm not falling for this same stunt twice.  You have compelling content from the beginning and maintain that, or I stop watching.  I just don't have the patience to endure another Lost-type situation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UltimatePartyBear on November 03, 2011, 07:54:53 PM
Holy hell, I just saw the infamous episode of Top Gear goes to America. It was funny through out, but WTF America, ****, you guys have issues. I know it's TV and they were taking the Mickey out of you at every opportunity, but America had to be the worse country they had visited up to that point. Mind you I haven't seen the Iraq episode which I hear could be worse.

Top Gear, as always, in Top Gear.

Which trip to America?  I think there have been three, but from your reaction I'm guessing you saw the one where they drove used cars through the Deep South and ended up in New Orleans?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2011, 08:46:15 PM
They are setting up future plotlines, so not everything is explained right away.
The murder really happened, they just set up the one guy to confess to basically make the real killer lower his guard.

Not every episode will feature a lot of dinosaurs, this was more about the characters.

No. I understand why the fake out on the arrest, I didn't understand the motivation for the murder in the first place.
Why did one soldier murder the other? That's the explanation I seek.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 03, 2011, 10:46:15 PM
Because soldiers are specifically programmed to murder other soldiers? :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2011, 12:25:31 AM
Ending of Community was great tonite.

best laugh the show has gotten out of me all season... probably the entire series actually.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 04, 2011, 01:12:21 AM
Parks & Rec tonight: Okay, not great.

Modern Family last night: Are Jennifer Tilly's breasts larger than Sofia Vergara's? They were struggling for release.

Happy Endings last night: I love this show so much.

Bones tonight: I didn't know how I'd feel about Bones being preggers, but so far I'm okay with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2011, 11:58:30 AM
yeah, i like how the camera kept panning between Tilly and Vergara, no way all 4 of those would fit on camera.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2011, 12:12:35 PM
yeah, i like how the camera kept panning between Tilly and Vergara, no way all 4 of those would fit on camera.

Not at current TV resolutions. All the more reason to push for 4k TV's. and with autostereoscopic3D ontop of that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 04, 2011, 05:38:56 PM
Started watching The League, and I love it so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on November 05, 2011, 01:07:49 PM
Because soldiers are specifically programmed to murder other soldiers? :P

I think you could ask that about a lot of real life murders, where you don't know why they did it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2011, 11:46:16 PM
I was gonna go out tonite, but there yet another mini-quake and it was pouring for a while and it's soaking wet out now. So I decided to check out a new show per Netflix recommendation.

The Gates (ABC - 2010 - 1 season)

I watched the first episode. So far so good.
It's about a prestigious gated community with residents that reside there due to the level of privacy that the community provides from the rest of the outside world.
Turns out there are Vampires, Werewolves and Witches in The Gates and all of them so far (well, the female Vamp and the Witches... especially the female Vamp) are pretty damn hot.
Anyway, new Sheriff comes to town to take over for the old Sheriff that retired, and immediately he gets suspicious of some of the residence in the community.

I don't want to give too much away, but so far I'm into it. Too bad it didn't get picked up for a second season, but I have a feeling that if it had debuted this year instead, it would have done pretty well.


edit:
4 episodes in and I'm really liking this show.
A nice amount of residents within have secrets that they wish to remain that way and the new sheriff in town has a knack for knowing when something just ain't right and likes to dig until he figures out why.
One of the Netflix user reviews said Vampire Diaries is for teens, The Gates is for Adults.
I've never seen an episode of Vamp Diaries outside of the pilot ep, so I can't confirm that comparison, but if someone was looking for a Supernatural Drama, this show (so far) would be on that recommendation list.


edit2: The Sheriff's wife is sooooo damn cute/hot

There is not a woman on this show that wouldn't get it.
Sheriff's Wife & Vamp Wife just happen to be at the top of the list.


edit3: I finished the whole series vaderNoooOOOOoOOo.jpg
fucking cliffhanger. I want more.
Why did this show not make the cut?
In the end it made me think True Blood meets The 4400. I'm not sure exactly why it kept making me thinking The 4400, but I think it was more the way the story progressed. Normal guy having to deal with ever escalating drama between people that were far from normal.


A more direct comparison would be True Blood meets Eureka meets Desperate Howsewives... even though I've never watched Desperate Housewives, it kinda has that type of vibe going for it. But don't let that scare you off, this show is GOOD, it just contains lots of Hot Women Drama mixed with a whole lot of Supernatural Drama and a bunch of Crime Drama.

Good show, shame it didn't continue. I hope someone picks this up to fill a gap in their schedule.
Maybe the CW will wise up and get it since this is the last year of Supernatural and it will leave a gaping whole in their already lacking schedule.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2011, 08:28:02 PM
Has anyone been watching Homeland on Showtime?

Good show.

POW captured in Iraq and held captive for 8 years finally gets released and sent home.
One of the Agents abroad gets a tip that a US soldier has been turned from an Iraqi prisoner and now she is hell bent on proving that the just released U.S. soldier is that turned terrorist double agent. She is a little crazy and willing to bend/break some rules to get it done, but it's not gonna be as easy as she originally though it was gonna be.

Episode 6 just aired last nite (Sundays @ 10pm)
so you got some catching up to do.

Easily one of the best new dramas of this year

--------------Another interesting show from this year?---------------

American Horror Story

Have I recommended this one yet?
[fake edit: it appears I already did (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29156.msg700109#msg700109)]

I am enjoying this show too. It's doing good in the ratings and already got picked up for a second season. So if you are looking for another show to watch, I would check this one out.

------------Hmmmm anything else....?------------

Pan Am
has been pretty decent. But I commented on that a few days ago.

The Walking Dead
....major side boobage this week and a possible nip shot, but I didn't rewind to confirm. Well Zombie scene was beyond stupid and in the end pointless, but it was also extremely gory at the end, so I guess it gets a pa.... no, **** that. The idea was stupid. Nobody was gonna drink from a well that a zombie has been marinading in for a few days. There is no point in risking one of your men to retrieve the zombie from the well. There were other wells to drink from.

Once Upon a Time
Fairytale land has been sent to the real world where they can't leave their town and have no idea of who they really are. Can Dr. Cameron from House save the town and restore the fairytales back to their fairytale lives?

My girl is sort of into this one, but it's not bad. I'll let you know if it gets good. You will never hear about it again if it gets worse.

Dexter
A definite improvement over last season, but that's setting the bar pretty damn low.
La Guerta's voice is just jarring to me now, but atleast Bautista is a likable character again.
I actually tell the TV to just shut up and stop talking everytime La Guerta comes on screen. Very annoyed with her for some reason.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 07, 2011, 10:19:17 PM
I've never liuked LaGuerta.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: MaryJane on November 07, 2011, 11:12:37 PM
In the books Dexter kills her, but I don't mind her because she's supposed to be a dislikeable character to give balance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 08, 2011, 10:49:21 AM
In the books Dexter kills her, but I don't mind her because she's supposed to be a dislikeable character to give balance.
Seriously.  I might actually read the books now.
 
Because of BnM, My Wife and I have been watching The Gates.  So far this show has taught me that Women are the cause of all problems.  Every problem in the show can be traced back to a women so far.  I'm 3 episodes in.  I honestly thought I had watched more.  A lot is going on.  Talking about shows with a lot going on.
 
My son and I have about 4 more episodes to finish up Eon Kid.  At this point I'm fairly sure they knew the show was going to be finished because they could have easilly expanded a lot of sections this last few episodes.  I'm hoping for a clean resolution.  This series really is a very long Movie and pretty good.
 
Just started Better Off Ted.  I'm really enjoying it.  Its how I imagine a documentary on Aperture Science would be.  Shame I kept blowing it off when it was on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 08, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
Walking Dead sucks. It's so boring and emotional. If I were in a Zombie Apocalypse, and God willing I will be, I would go Zombieland on them undead sons of bitches. Banjo and everything.

Dexter is getting better. It was kinda flat-lining till the last episode. It's a shame that Mos Def is dead though.

Boardwalk Empire was kinda flat-lining as well till the last episode as well. The feud is going to reach a fevered pitch now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 08, 2011, 07:06:21 PM
Walking Dead sucks. It's so boring and emotional. If I were in a Zombie Apocalypse, and God willing I will be, I would go Zombieland on them undead sons of bitches. Banjo and everything.

It is starting to feel that way. They have so much material to work with, and instead they're lingering on these absurd character interactions. It could work if more of the characters were actually likable. You don't survive society's downfall by bickering with a ragtag group... you survive by killing just about everyone in your path.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 08, 2011, 07:23:48 PM
The excruciatingly slow pacing of The Walking Dead is really starting to get on my nerves.  I didn't read the comics and I'm not going to read the comics, so I really don't care whether it sticks to the story of the comics or not.  I just know that the folks behind the show knew they only had 6 episodes to work with in that first season, so each episode of that show was just packed with things to keep you interested.  They didn't have time to just screw around like they're doing this season.

Unfortunately, because they have so many more episodes now and they already know they're getting a 3rd season, they're just throwing away the story potential of entire episodes now to focus on characters just sitting around bickering.  For instance, this whole business with Sophia should have been resolved in 1 or 2 episodes, but they've somehow managed to drag it out through four with no end in sight.  It's time for these characters to move on and show us more of this world, because this is getting pretty boring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 08, 2011, 08:51:21 PM
The first season was good.  It stuns to hear this is becoming like most Zombie series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 09, 2011, 12:09:28 AM
I finished watching the Dresden Files.

It was alright, but it just seemed like every episode they would make up some new magic **** for him to deal with that was sometimes very weird.  Between this random magic stuff and his potions, it all just seemed kinda inconsistent. But just as I was starting to really get into it, it was over. I guess it was cancelled, but what I found kinda funny was that the lead actor Dresden was a character on the show The Gates that I had just watched before it.

In The Gates, the new sheriff had just left Chicago to work at this gated community called the Gates. In the Dresden Files, it took place in Chicago and happened a few years before The Gates. Both shows dealt with magic and supernatural beings like Vampires. Just a funny coincidence.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 09, 2011, 08:43:29 AM
House - The show that should have ended a few years back. Hugh Laurie is still great and Wilson is a perfect balance but i don't get the feeling this show has an idea how it's going to end.

American Dad - Now that Family Guy's decline is terminal, (see the clusterfuck that was sunday's episode) AD really shines now by having such a varied and crazy mix of characters that will do crazy and varied things. Principal Lewis is a riot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2011, 03:14:51 PM
Claymore (Anime)

I remember someone here reviewing this show. Was it you, BlacknMild?

Anyway, I finished the whole series in less than a week. I gotta say, I was quite impressed with it all. It didn't pick up until the Teresa episodes, but after that, it flew. It's unfortunate that those are the best episodes though. They set up the revenge plot and give the story structure. It also featured the best action up to that point (and unfortunately of the entire series...yes, even better than the Silver-eyed Lion King).

After that, it got a little nonsensical. Why wouldn't the top fighters just hunt down the half-awakened ala what they did with Teresa? Why give them a chance to unite, a chance to figure out how to hone their new found skill? Regardless of that point, I still like the progression through the story. It's always nice to see the hero get her ass kicked several times. And just like any good adventure, she becomes stronger. It's a damn shame that Ophelia died though. She was easily my favorite character.

Then the ending happened and it sucked. I'm not talking about the cliffhanger ending. I'm talking about the major battle that ended in a whimper. I would have allowed Clare to kill the **** out of Priscilla, then realize that she doesn't feel any better and that she's awakened too far even for the technique she used on that one twisty arm chick. It's in this moment she repents and asks for Teresa forgiveness saying that she should have accepted her gift to "Be Human." That's when she asks one of her teammates to behead her so she doesn't become a monster. None of them can bring themselves to do it or when they try, she fucks them up. So she uses her strength of will to do it herself. She stabs herself in the heart, but instead of dying, her self-sacrifice turns her into a Goddess which is what I thought was going to happen the entire fucking time!

They built that up so much that I was so let down when it didn't happen. The setup was there. I mean, how many times can you flashback in the final scene? They did it to a ridiculous degree but I thought it was setting up the dichotomy between Priscilla and Clare. Priscilla went bat-**** crazy and lost her mind when revenge took her. She became the Angel of Death. Clare was about to do the same, so yeah...the setup was there. /rant


Anyway, despite the bad ending, some extremely annoying characters (ROCKY STOP FUCKING CRYING) and nonsensical story beats, I actually liked it. Though mostly because I think it could be a great blockbuster movie. Every fight, every twist, I kept envisioning an awesome live-action movie. Think about it; it has everything. It would be '300' except with an army of hot chicks. Decapitation, Demons, and an army of dope chicks; it's got it all.


No review score, instead these are my faces during the series from beginning to end.


 :Q :) ;D ::) :D :confused; :@
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 15, 2011, 04:44:08 PM
I dont know why Walking Dead retains its slow zombie like pace. Don't avoid the comic series because of the show. The comic book series has a much faster pace. When I was reading it years ago, it was when Dexter first came out. I had thought they could work them into a movie, but then I thought it would be better as a mini series. Then I thought it would be great as a Premium channel show. Now its on cable, and whats in it? Filler. Filler. Filler. They are adding so much stuff that they'll never get to the real guts of the show. Not to mention 25 minutes of the show are commercial. If only the show had a full 60 minutes uninterrupted to work with they could fit 2 episodes in without stupid commercial break cliffhangers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2011, 05:46:03 PM
Claymore (Anime)

I remember someone here reviewing this show. Was it you, BlacknMild?

Yes it was me.

Quote
Anyway, despite the bad ending, some extremely annoying characters (ROCKY STOP FUCKING CRYING) and nonsensical story beats, I actually liked it.

Every fucking scene he was in he was whining and crying. he couldn't have been more annoying.

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No review score, instead these are my faces during the series from beginning to end.


 :Q :) ;D ::) :D :confused; :@

we should all do review like that ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2011, 05:55:38 PM
I watched Terra Nova last nite.....

LOL at the special effects. They are SOOOOO BAD.
I really want to gif a clip of the "Marlin" fishing that they were doing, but it would take more effort than it is really worth.

It looked like the scene was shot in normal 24fps, but the CG (or was it stop motion?) was done in 7fps as it was cheap looking and choppy as hell. It was terribad. It didn't fit at all. The "fish" jumped out of the water and it looked like strobe light effect without the lights ever flickering once.

I don't know why I continue to watch this show. It's not the worst thing in the world... but it's so far from good.

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Dear Halbred.

Can you watch the last episode that just aired and tell me what kind of dinosaur that was. It's the very first scene so you don't have to watch very much of the show.

Thanx,

BNM
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 15, 2011, 06:05:02 PM
Terribad?

Didn't you mean Terra Bad?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 15, 2011, 09:15:20 PM
Dear Halbred.

Can you watch the last episode that just aired and tell me what kind of dinosaur that was. It's the very first scene so you don't have to watch very much of the show.

Thanx,

BNM
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Is it, like, online?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 15, 2011, 09:32:16 PM
Dear Halbred.

Can you watch the last episode that just aired and tell me what kind of dinosaur that was. It's the very first scene so you don't have to watch very much of the show.

Thanx,

BNM

Is it, like, online? At least describe what it looked like, where it lived, etc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
it looked like a sailfish to be honest.

but you have to see it in motion.... ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 15, 2011, 09:50:45 PM
Based on Zach's complaints about the show, it's probably something they just made up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 15, 2011, 09:51:12 PM
So it's...not a dinosaur? There were no marine dinosaurs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 15, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
Just put up a screen shot so we can all mock the terribadness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on November 16, 2011, 12:16:18 AM
Game of thrones season 1

I fucking love HBO. If political intrigue is your thing go watch this right now

10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2011, 12:44:43 AM
Just put up a screen shot so we can all mock the terribadness.

Ok, you guys win. When I get home, I'll just make a gif of the scene in question.

or just a screen shot if I'm feeling lazy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2011, 04:06:43 AM
16MB GIF @ this link
http://i.minus.com/ifDfH3gAs3GWF.gif

screenshot below (for those of you on 56K connections)
















(http://i.imgur.com/X1QLh.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 16, 2011, 04:14:54 AM
all those problems would be solved by adding an environmental map of the sea background to the fish models. Its damn reflective things like fish that are easiest to make look real. You can't just do specular lighting and thing that solves the problem. The animation isn't terrible though.  Should just take a photo of a real fish out of water and add stuff to it. Its only on screen for a couple seconds, stuff could be done manually. Shouldnt have added the whiskers either...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on November 16, 2011, 10:14:48 AM
Game of thrones season 1

I fucking love HBO. If political intrigue is your thing go watch this right now

10/10

I watched the entire season in just one sitting right after the finale. Well worth the investment. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 16, 2011, 10:32:15 AM
It's pretty bad and looks no better in motion. It's not quite SyFy channel bad, but that's not saying much. They were far too ambitious with their shots, far out striping the budget and technology on hand. They would have done far better as Theperm pointed out if they shot real fish and modify it. There are a fair number of Marlin in NZ and I am sure some high quality stock footage would have been available at a nominal price given the raw number of hours shot for the fishing shows here.

Now on to something positive. Parks and Recreations had a very ho hum first season, it wasn't bad, but it lacked pop. After watching season 2 episode 5: Sister city, it finally found some pop. I hope it continues. And yes, we are 2 and 3/4 seasons behind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 16, 2011, 10:36:04 AM
Been watching Better Off Ted
We're to the Second Season and the show is still good.  The Misses turned around to me last night and wondered why this show didn't continue after the second season.  We will find out.

I don't think I posted it but we also finished The Gates
The show was good till about the last four episodes or so.  Which are entertaining enough but they must have known by then they weren't getting picked up because they wrote themselves into a ton of corners if they ever wanted to get back to a show like the first half.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 16, 2011, 10:43:35 AM
Regarding Better Off Ted, your answers lie here (http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/better-off-ted-abc-tv-show-cancelled-no-season-three/) and here (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/03/better_off_ted_victor_fresco.html). It's a real shame too. It was a genuinely funny show that got pushed out the door to die. By the time I discovered the show, it was too late.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 16, 2011, 11:46:33 AM
Regarding Better Off Ted, your answers lie here (http://tvseriesfinale.com/tv-show/better-off-ted-abc-tv-show-cancelled-no-season-three/) and here (http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2010/03/better_off_ted_victor_fresco.html). It's a real shame too. It was a genuinely funny show that got pushed out the door to die. By the time I discovered the show, it was too late.
Yeah, when it was aired I remember the name Better Off Ted but in was in a slot where I couldn't tune in for it or I just missed it when it came on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2011, 01:49:39 PM
Now on to something positive. Parks and Recreations had a very ho hum first season, it wasn't bad, but it lacked pop. After watching season 2 episode 5: Sister city, it finally found some pop. I hope it continues. And yes, we are 2 and 3/4 seasons behind.

You're in for a real treat, as the show just keeps getting better. Now that Community has effectively been canceled it's probably the best comedy on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 16, 2011, 02:25:55 PM
Yeah Parks and Rec picks up tons of steam, especially in season 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 16, 2011, 02:54:15 PM
I just want to say that I have finished watching the first 2 seasons of Gossip Girl
(don't judge me)
and.... and.... I think I'm hooked.

This show is not really what I was thinking it was gonna be going in. It's not a girly girl drama like Sex and the City. It's a high society drama about the over privileged who have the luxury to take all the little things in life for granted and therefore deal with things almost strictly related to other peoples perception of them through deceit, debauchery, and well.... gossip.

Truth is that the 1st season was good. Very good. I felt ashamed going in that I liked it, but I was just hooked on the drama and the characters.

Serena (Blake Lively) - the wild girl looking to quietly fit back into her old life and get things back on track (she used to be the Queen of the school until she took off). She ran off after something  bad happened and just wants to move on, but old friends and old lifestyle make old habits hard to avoid.

Blair - The Queen "B". The Leader of the "Mean Girls" and Serena's best friend. You don't **** with this girl unless you want everyone to know your business.... and it likely won't be pretty.
If she sets out to ruin you, consider yourself ruined. She's queen for a reason.
She has the plan to lead the perfect life, so if you get in her way or cross her path, you better hope she doesn't squash you like a bug.

Chuck Bass - Son of a self made Billionaire. Playboy Extraordinaire. The one guy you will probably hate but would rather have as a friend than an enemy. If there is dirt, he can find it. If there is something he wants, he will get it. If you do him wrong.... he will right it, and enjoy every second of it since it's all just a game to him.
(I love this guy)

Dan Humphrey - The average guy who doesn't exactly fit in. Dad is working his butt off to afford him going to that school and is hoping to keep his grades up to get a full ride to Yale. Oh and he is madly in love with Serena since the first time he kinda spoke to her several years ago... bu he isn't even on her (or anyone else's) radar.

That is 4 of the main people (there are more) and it starts off with them in their Jr. year of HS.
Gossip Girl is actually a website run by some anonymous person that post all the juicy gossip that gets submitted by everyone at the school and blasted to everyone's cellphones, keeping the whole school up to date on everything... all the time.

Season 2 was good too, but I'm not sure if I just understand the characters too much now or the show became a little predictable, but I could call 75% of everything that was gonna happen long before it did. It didn't make it any less enjoyable to watch... infact it got me a little more into it as I had to prove to my girl that I was right (and I was).

p.s. Michelle Tractenberg was in the second season too... and should be in the 3rd.
Not to mention that Venessa (dan's friend) & Blair are both pretty damn hot as well.


 :D :Q :D ;D :cool; :-[ :-X ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 16, 2011, 03:16:14 PM
Keep your girl happy as long as you enjoy it.

ARCHER

Ok. It's Official. I am a fan of Archer. I just finished the first season and from the very first 10 seconds of the very first episode, it is hilarious.

Archer is the man. He is the top field agent (or spy) for a company called ISIS run by his mom. He's an inconsiderate dick who says obnoxiously funny things to people simply because he doesn't care. His wit is impeccable and everyone wants to sleep with him.

Except for the other top field agent and his partner (as well as past lover), Lana. She is the sensible (if a little crazy) one. She's banging and because of that everyone, even the girls and gay dudes, want to bang her. Archer's main mission other than protecting his own life is to try and get her back (into the DANGERZONE).

That's basically the setup. But it's filled with a great cast of other people, ranging from pretty normal to sex deviant. But the best of the bunch is Dr. Krieger, a half-mad half-brilliant always funny scientist. He might be the best character on TV besides Ron Swanson (who will likely never be dethroned).

It's a great series and I guess it just started it's third season so it's doing well.


 ;D :cool; :) :D ;D :P

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 16, 2011, 03:20:01 PM
Archer is amazing. Pretty much anything H. Jon Benjamin touches is gold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 16, 2011, 03:25:11 PM
With his voice...touches with his voice. I saw that Jon Benjamin has a van and it was terrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 16, 2011, 03:56:21 PM
Oh, didn't catch that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2011, 04:13:11 PM
If you like the first season of Archer just wait till you see the second. The first is great, but the second is, in my opinion, one of the best seasons of any comedy I've ever seen. Brilliantly written, marvelously performed. I can't wait for the third.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 16, 2011, 07:04:22 PM
I've been watching them like an obsessive stalker; i.e. profusely and they are even more hysterical. Krieger...my god Krieger had the best line ever "That'll do Pigly...That'll do." *Gunshots*, I literally spit up my drink.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 16, 2011, 08:11:02 PM
You're in for a real treat, as the show just keeps getting better. Now that Community has effectively been canceled it's probably the best comedy on television.

Please tell me your a terribad person and spawn the lies of Satan. I know the station here did something really stupid and stopped showing episode mid season 1 before restarting over half a year later which may have dicked with the ratings. Currently on Jeff plays pool episode.

Archer is amazing. Pretty much anything H. Jon Benjamin touches is gold.

He makes Archer work in the most excellent way, but I present to you evidence of your lies : Bob's burgers. It's good, but never gold. Also, to hell with Lana, I want to choke  Carol Cristal Carina Cheryl so bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 16, 2011, 10:04:13 PM
You're in for a real treat, as the show just keeps getting better. Now that Community has effectively been canceled it's probably the best comedy on television.

Please tell me your a terribad person and spawn the lies of Satan. I know the station here did something really stupid and stopped showing episode mid season 1 before restarting over half a year later which may have dicked with the ratings. Currently on Jeff plays pool episode.

No, I'm afraid NBC has removed Community from their midseason lineup. It's sounding like the rest of season three will be completed and possibly aired next summer if not only appearing on DVD, but that's the end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 16, 2011, 10:28:42 PM
16MB GIF @ this link
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screenshot below (for those of you on 56K connections)

(http://i.imgur.com/X1QLh.jpg)

My god. MY GOD. I have no words. That's like a "Legendary Swordfish" or something from D&D. I'm so glad I don't watch that crap anymore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 17, 2011, 09:13:22 PM
OMG, I'm watching ep 6 of Archer and LOL

"Cause you walked into Strippers Discount Warehouse and said help me showcase my intellect!"
(http://i.imgur.com/4u8wj.jpg)

So many funny ass lines in this show. So many twisted "WTF" lines in this show too.

I watched the pilot episode when it had first aired on FX but for some reason never caught the show when it actually aired a month or 2 later. I've also had it in my Netflix queue since it first popped up on streaming, but I only just started watching it because of the comments made by you guys yesterday.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2011, 01:59:23 AM
Kyle XY

I was surprised at how much I liked this show. I'm gonna guess that it didn't get good ratings because the story ends on a reveal, but I was really into it.

It's about a teenaged boy that wakes up in the middle of the forest without any knowledge as to who he is or where he is or why is. He wanders into the city butt ass nekkid where he then gets adopted by his therapist and her family. Turns out this boy is very special though and has abilities that no human should have. The son of the family swears up and down that "Kyle" (they boy from the woods) is an alien, and even though the rest of the family doesn't believe he's an alien, they certainly know that he is not a normal human.

The thing that got me most in the beginning was the sad and innocent puppy dog eyes that Kyle had as e tried to figure out what it meant to be "human". He was a mathematical genius, and he was able to learn facts extremely fast, but his understanding of why people do or say the things they do and say was a much different learning experience. This show is actually pretty damn funny, thanx mostly to Kyle not understanding human behavior, but the banter between the brother and sister are usually on point too.

This looks like yet another good show cut down before it's time, but it was fun while it lasted.


:confused; :Q :) ;D :'( ;) ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2011, 04:49:28 PM
Battlestar Galactica

Man decides to play god and create a robotic slave race. One day the robotic slave race (The Cylons) decides that they want freedom and decide to fight back. This leads to the near extinction of the human race. The only military ship left in the Galactic Human Army was BS Galactica and they have to find a way to preserve the human race and destroy the Cylon threat before it's too late.

I've watched the first 2 episodes, and I'm into it. It's nothing like what I thought it would be other than it takes place in space. It's not too techie, and I haven't seen any alien races yet, which is good because I was trying to avoid those type of shows for the moment. So far it's actually kinda suspenseful with lots of action and drama as they try to figure out who is not who they say they are while just trying to keep the peace and order.

Onto episode 3 ;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 27, 2011, 04:57:36 PM
Battlestar Galactica

Man decides to play god and create a robotic slave race. One day the robotic slave race (The Cylons) decides that they want freedom and decide to fight back. This leads to the near extinction of the human race. The only military ship left in the Galactic Human Army was BS Galactica and they have to find a way to preserve the human race and destroy the Cylon threat before it's too late.

I've watched the first 2 episodes, and I'm into it. It's nothing like what I thought it would be other than it takes place in space. It's not too techie, and I haven't seen any alien races yet, which is good because I was trying to avoid those type of shows for the moment. So far it's actually kinda suspenseful with lots of action and drama as they try to figure out who is not who they say they are while just trying to keep the peace and order.

Onto episode 3 ;D

If you really do end up loving the show, do yourself a favor and just stop watching the series after Season 3.  Personally, I'd actually argue to stop after Season 2, because those first two seasons are easily where the show peaked, but Season 3 has its fans.  The show just takes a spectacular nosedive in quality with Season 4, culminating in the only TV show ending that's pissed me off more than Lost's (and that's only because I cared about Battlestar more).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 27, 2011, 08:10:44 PM
While I would normally say he should watch the whole thing so he can make up his own mind... Blacknmild21k, consider yourself given fair warning. The show couldn't crater any harder into the ground than it did besides a K-T asteroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%93T_boundary) event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_crater).

Just started Season 2 of SGU. Yeah, the cracks are starting to show. I really liked the first season since it was mostly the crew verses the ship, but the season season is starting to become LOST, which is BS. Young continues to improve his kill death ratio, in TKing. Rush is rightfully going insane even though he is their best chance to get home as the collective pressure not only from external threats, but from his own shipmates has proven his paranoia correct to everybody's determent as they continue to bring earth politics to the other side of the universe. One of the only sane people Eli, is now effectively marginalised into an extra on and off set. Professional cock tease Chloe continues to frustrate both the crew and the viewing audience to the dismay of many right handed persons.

There has been a drop in the quality of the writing marked with one very poorly written death that shouldn't have happened for a number of in universe reasons. They have been trying to bring in other demographics, but LOST style story arcs are the last thing any show needs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 28, 2011, 04:57:13 AM
While I would normally say he should watch the whole thing so he can make up his own mind... Blacknmild21k, consider yourself given fair warning. The show couldn't crater any harder into the ground than it did besides a K-T asteroid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%A2%C2%80%C2%93T_boundary) event (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shiva_crater).

Just started Season 2 of SGU. Yeah, the cracks are starting to show. I really liked the first season since it was mostly the crew verses the ship, but the season season is starting to become LOST, which is BS. Young continues to improve his kill death ratio, in TKing. Rush is rightfully going insane even though he is their best chance to get home as the collective pressure not only from external threats, but from his own shipmates has proven his paranoia correct to everybody's determent as they continue to bring earth politics to the other side of the universe. One of the only sane people Eli, is now effectively marginalised into an extra on and off set. Professional cock tease Chloe continues to frustrate both the crew and the viewing audience to the dismay of many right handed persons.

There has been a drop in the quality of the writing marked with one very poorly written death that shouldn't have happened for a number of in universe reasons. They have been trying to bring in other demographics, but LOST style story arcs are the last thing any show needs.

SGU was planned to be a 5-season show from the start, so a lot of those arcs were written with the idea of going into the next season to resolve. I felt that the stories were starting to become stargatey, which is a good thing almost, except some of the characters should have been more prominent.

Greer should have been more of a major character rather than a "as and when" one. If they swapped Camille's sexuality storyline with his bad-parentage/bad-upbringing one it would have given us more reason to see Greer do more un-Greer things rather than be a standard military type all the time. I always felt that Jamil Walker-Smith (who plays him), Louis Ferrera (who plays Young) and Robert Carlyle were the best three actors on the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 28, 2011, 06:06:48 AM
so Walking dead finally picks up....and then mid season hiatus....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 28, 2011, 06:24:38 AM
I expected the multi-season arcs since it is Stargate and those arcs was what made the show successful. What I don't like is the pseudo mystical rubbish they started bringing in at the start of the second season. SG while self aware a lot of time, is a pretty science-y show with mysticism kept at arms length. While Daniel Jackson dealt with that aspect, it was always know it was always a case of having really advanced aliens.

Season 1 has SG like episodes like "Time" and it was easily the best in season 1. Camile is a really pointless character, her only function which is the same function she had back in Atlantis, is to play Real Politiks. Her sexuality has absolutely no bearing and is only included so they had an edgy character to chaff American sensibilities. It never should have become a plot point. Who gives a damn, you're stuck on a ship you have no control of in the otherside of the universe, you have bigger problems.

I don't blame the actors, not one bit. Young should have maned up to his new responsibilities by now, but the writers keep writing him into a corner, making him worse and worse with each passing episode. Greer is awesome, but like Eli, they keep getting written out. Season 2 feels like it is actually moving away from SG even with the inclusion of space corn pirates.

The shows setup is a perfect Metroid like story structure. The ship like Samus starts off weak and to explore she must get more powerful by exploring. SGU is the same with exploration and increased control being one and the same. Atlantis is similar, but the whole thing about being cut off from the rest of humanity was pretty quickly forgotten. Maybe doing a Atlantis redux on a ship may have been too soon, instead of exploring more of our own galaxy.

But I am only on season 2 episode 2 and maybe they are the worse episodes of the bunch. Season 1 was pretty good, if not a little too serious for it's own good. At least it doesn't have "Our people" Taylor going on and on. A drinking game based on her would be lethal.

They haven't started showing the 2nd season of Walking Dead here, but there seems to be a nasty pattern of networks trying to kill shows that aren't "reality" shows by putting them on mid season hiatus even if they might have shot more episodes so they can justify dropping the show after the ratings naturally slip as people have to find the show again. It's even more asinine when a perfectly good show gets bumped by a "Reality TV event".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 28, 2011, 06:59:12 AM
I expected the multi-season arcs since it is Stargate and those arcs was what made the show successful. What I don't like is the pseudo mystical rubbish they started bringing in at the start of the second season. SG while self aware a lot of time, is a pretty science-y show with mysticism kept at arms length. While Daniel Jackson dealt with that aspect, it was always know it was always a case of having really advanced aliens.

Season 1 has SG like episodes like "Time" and it was easily the best in season 1. Camile is a really pointless character, her only function which is the same function she had back in Atlantis, is to play Real Politiks. Her sexuality has absolutely no bearing and is only included so they had an edgy character to chaff American sensibilities. It never should have become a plot point. Who gives a damn, you're stuck on a ship you have no control of in the otherside of the universe, you have bigger problems.

I don't blame the actors, not one bit. Young should have maned up to his new responsibilities by now, but the writers keep writing him into a corner, making him worse and worse with each passing episode. Greer is awesome, but like Eli, they keep getting written out. Season 2 feels like it is actually moving away from SG even with the inclusion of space corn pirates.

The shows setup is a perfect Metroid like story structure. The ship like Samus starts off weak and to explore she must get more powerful by exploring. SGU is the same with exploration and increased control being one and the same. Atlantis is similar, but the whole thing about being cut off from the rest of humanity was pretty quickly forgotten. Maybe doing a Atlantis redux on a ship may have been too soon, instead of exploring more of our own galaxy.

But I am only on season 2 episode 2 and maybe they are the worse episodes of the bunch. Season 1 was pretty good, if not a little too serious for it's own good. At least it doesn't have "Our people" Taylor going on and on. A drinking game based on her would be lethal.


Camille's sexuality wasn't anything worthy to be spoken about, but it's yet to be shown on TV properly when its either male or black. I actually put that point to the producers and one of them agreed that "there's more to be done".
Plus Greer is such a kick-ass character i would have loved to have seen a different side to him alongside his brutal military nature. Imagine if Greer's aggressive personality was due to a bad relationship on earth that just left him distrusting of nearly everyone and deeply caring about those who he cares for, like his bromance with Scott? I'd only accept it if it was written in a way that directly influences who he is now, not what he did before.

The only reason i mention the actors, and especially those three (and Eli to a point) is that except for Rush and Young the rest (especially Greer and Eli) didn't get much to chew on and flex themselves with.

It's interesting you mention the Metroid story structure - it's so accurate now that you mention it. Who knows, maybe in season 3 they could have accessed the computer core which accessed the AI and hallucinations to explain the dead bodies we found in the pilot?

I won't spoil any episodes but there's a couple of good ones coming up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 10:34:03 AM
So if I decide to bail on BSG after s3, should I bother watching Caprica?

I've already added it to the queue just incase.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 28, 2011, 10:51:59 AM
I think you should watch the whole series personally.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 28, 2011, 11:02:18 AM
It would be pretty hard to stop at the end of season 3 given how ridiculous the cliffhanger is. I've seen people argue you should stop at the midpoint of season 4, which I could see working.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 28, 2011, 11:06:49 AM
Just watch it and make up your own g.d. mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 12:19:11 PM
I was gonna watch the whole thing anyway as long as i didn't lose interest.

But should I watch Caprica too?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on November 28, 2011, 12:21:06 PM
That I haven't seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 28, 2011, 12:25:04 PM
I was gonna watch the whole thing anyway as long as i didn't lose interest.

But should I watch Caprica too?

I've seen all of Caprica, and it's just a total mess.  I wouldn't bother with the series, as it's another show about a bunch of unlikeable characters trying to screw each other over.  The show tries desperately in the final episode to tie better into Battlestar Galactica, but if you've seen the backstory told in BSG you'll know that the two just don't mesh.  The show got canceled after one season for good reason: it's terrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 28, 2011, 06:00:04 PM
Just a shout-out since I know we have some Claymore fans on here, but for "Cyber Monday" for today ONLY The Right Stuf has the Blu-Ray for that series on sale for $22 (http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/0tOQlfJu2pc7kpNsHs/browse/item/85840/4/0/0).

There are some other notable anime blu-rays and DVDs on sale as well (http://www.rightstuf.com/rssite/main/news/individual/?ForumThreadName=FT0000003062&ReturnTo=Main) worth checking out, as I ordered the Angel Beats Blu-Ray for $28 (and it's a short series I do recommend for its hilarious comedy and somewhat-satisfactory ending).  So yeah, check it out.  But remember that this sale ends at 11:59 PM tonight (EST, I believe), so get on it if you're interested.  TRSI is a great site that I've used in the past for a lot of my anime ordering.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 28, 2011, 07:01:20 PM
Archer Season 3 Teaser: Heart of Archness

:-D

Boardwalk Empire

Soooooo dope. Keep it coming HBO. Keep it coming.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 07:24:22 PM
I've stopped watching Boardwalk....

I'm watching too many shows and that one was just moving way to slow.
I guess I'll pick it back up after the season ends and I can just marathon it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 28, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
so when i hear caprica i think land of goats, are there goats?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 28, 2011, 08:53:52 PM
Walking Dead....

Why can't every episode be like that one?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 08:58:00 PM
I was thinking the same thing.

I was almost ready to just catch up on that show later too, but they finally picked things up and made some damn progress.


I didn't watch the preview for the next episode, but what do you think is gonna happen next?
(no preview or comic book spoilers please)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 28, 2011, 09:04:00 PM
Walking Dead....

Why can't every episode be like that one?

Indeed.  I just finished watching it.  Stuff finally happens, after what...7-8 episodes now?  How appropriate that the episode is titled "Pretty much Dead Already", because that's what this show has become for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 28, 2011, 09:05:04 PM

I was thinking the same thing.

I was almost ready to just catch up on that show later too, but they finally picked things up and made some damn progress.


I didn't watch the preview for the next episode, but what do you think is gonna happen next?
(no preview or comic book spoilers please)

Don't care as long as more walkers die and people keep pointing guns at each other.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 28, 2011, 09:07:38 PM
well there's finally pea soup like tension between people. They took way too long to get where they are now though. They could have done it in 3 episodes. If all future episodes remain like this then im in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 09:51:30 PM
BSG

Why does no one think this doctor guy is BATSHIT CRAZY INSANE!? LOL

they catch him in "day dream" situations all the time where he is talking to himself and doing something that looks very peculiar when taken out of context (as that is the only way everyone else can take it). Just figured there would be some gossip or something about his odd behavior in the inner circles. I know that they have mentioned it, but there should be more talk about it as he is doing it all the time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 28, 2011, 09:59:11 PM
He's not batshit insane, he's just dry humping his swivel chair. I wouldn't think too much into it since it leads to nothing. Those scenes have only one purpose, it's to have Tracia Helfer dry hump the life out of something. The implications are obvious. It's a sexy red herring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 10:04:03 PM
I don't even think she is attractive.... but them ore they keep forcing her on me in skimpy outfits acting all provocative... she is starting to get a little sexy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 28, 2011, 10:42:50 PM
Tricia Helfer is attractive due to the Law of One Woman On the Show:

If there's only one female lead on a TV show or in a movie, you will start to think she's attractive because there's absolutely nobody else to compare her to. In Battlestar Galactica's case, Helfer is competing with Starbuck, who herself is no prom queen. Between the two of them. Helfer is the more attractive woman.

But that ain't sayin' much. Eat a sammich, Tricia.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 28, 2011, 11:04:53 PM
Tricia Helfer is attractive due to the Law of One Woman On the Show:

If there's only one female lead on a TV show or in a movie, you will start to think she's attractive because there's absolutely nobody else to compare her to. In Battlestar Galactica's case, Helfer is competing with Starbuck, who herself is no prom queen. Between the two of them. Helfer is the more attractive woman.

But that ain't sayin' much. Eat a sammich, Tricia.

Don't forget Boomer, though, who I always thought was the most attractive lady on the show.  You do see way too much of her, though, as the series goes on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on November 28, 2011, 11:12:06 PM
I was gonna watch the whole thing anyway as long as i didn't lose interest.

But should I watch Caprica too?

I've seen all of Caprica, and it's just a total mess.  I wouldn't bother with the series, as it's another show about a bunch of unlikeable characters trying to screw each other over.  The show tries desperately in the final episode to tie better into Battlestar Galactica, but if you've seen the backstory told in BSG you'll know that the two just don't mesh.  The show got canceled after one season for good reason: it's terrible.


to be fair it got cancelled in the middle of the season pretty abruptly  so they had to cram everything in one episode. I liked Caprica after they stopped with the shitty cylon/A.I arc but by then it was like 10 eps in. If BnM lost interest in BSG after season 3 i dont think he'll like this.


as for BSG it was awesome, but the cylon dialogue made me cringe big time. Also the mutiny arc in the middle of season 4 was freaking amazing
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2011, 11:15:10 PM
I just finished ep 7 of s1

the one where Star Buck recovers the Cylon Ship

So I'm not anywhere near s3 yet, but if it holds my interest all the way through, I might check out Caprica just to cap the entire series off and put it to bed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
Supernatural

Bobby.... :'(
month long cliff hanger episode too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 05, 2011, 01:04:19 AM
BoardWalk Empire....

Tonights episode was like I a car accident...I couldn't look away no matter how horrifying parts of it were. Easily one of the better episodes of the season. I don't know how many episodes are left, but as usual motives are well explained, characters are well-rounded, and everything is coming to a head.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2011, 10:31:27 PM
Well, a couple of mid-season report cards (Thundercats and Iron Man: AA are both on mid-season hiatus now):

Thundercats - This show started out really strong with one of the best animated series pilots I've ever seen.  Unfortunately, while I think the show overall has been very solid, it's definitely had some peaks and valleys, and it never has approached the high quality of the pilot since.  It's also prone to getting sidetracked with standalone episodes featuring a new Third Earth creature, which won't make any sense to people who never saw the original Thundercats.  Sure, I had fun seeing a new incarnation of the Berbils; the village of the swordsmen; or the Miyazaki-esque Petalars, but people who signed onto this show because of the pilot may wonder what the point of it all is and when we were going to get back to Mum-Ra; the Book of Omens; and the Magic Stones.

I still think this is the best animated show on television right now (how the Annie's overlooked this show in favor of the pilot for the mediocre Green Lantern show, I can't fathom).  But it needs to be much more consistent in telling its overarching story.  I have a feeling that the creators are holding back on using Mum-Ra because he was so overused in the original series, but I think they've held back too much.  This Mum-Ra doesn't seem particularly involved with the affairs of this show, and I think it hurts the story's believability. 

There was also way too much of a focus on Lion-O in these first 13 episodes, often "teaching" him the same "lessons" every episode.  It got tedious.  We still don't know much about the Thunderkittens, Panthro is cool but pretty much one-note so far, it's hard to get a read on Tigra since he rarely has much to do, and Cheetara is a walking Cock-tease.  There's been way too much focus on the Love Triangle between Lion-O; Tigra; and Cheetara, though hopefully the end of episode 13 changes that.

Overall, a good show that hasn't quite lived up to the "great show" promised in the pilot, but it's still very enjoyable and far better than the original 80s Thundercats.  A-

Iron Man: Armored Adventures (Season 2) - Yes, this show still exists.  This season has been pretty solid, in that I can't say there's a "bad" episode this season, but it has been pretty weird at times (the episode where the Goth girl sets up improbable SAW-style death traps everywhere comes to mind).  The overarching story involving the theft of the Iron Man designs to Justin Hammer and Obediah Stane (thus creating Titanium Man and Iron Monger) has just gotten dull since every episode is basically the same as the one before it.  The new Iron Man 2.0 is pretty cool-looking, though.  They really need to update that intro with new footage.

The creators have promised more appearances by more-beloved Marvel appearances like the X-Men and Fantastic Four, so there is hope yet for a more interesting series of stories this season.  My big complaint with this show is that it isn't as fun to watch as it needs to be, considering it's probably right on the verge of cancelation.  Still, Nickelodeon could do worse than this show. B

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 4) - I really don't care anymore.  I lost interest in this show early on this season with a series of really lackluster episodes, so I have something like 6-7 episodes to catch up on and I just can't muster up the willingness to care.  I'll probably catch up on it when the season's over. C-
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2011, 10:37:50 PM
Now that that's out of the way, a couple of days ago I was at my folks' house and spotted an old DVD set of the Aaron Sorkin TV series Sports Night just discarded on the floor.  I'm a big fan of the West Wing despite its politics (though as far as I'm concerned that abomination known as Studio 60 doesn't exist) so I borrowed it, and so I've been watching the first season.

So far, I like the show.  The characters are engaging to watch, even if several of them were flat-out copied by The West Wing (including the same actors).  The actual concept of the show was pretty much ripped-off by Sorkin's later Studio 60.  The pilot is also eerily similar to the first episode of the West Wing, in that a large aspect of it is the drama over one of the main cast potentially being fired.  The show has a nice flow to it, I think the 22-minute running time keeps the stories from becoming too bloated, and the show is really well-cast.  Outside basketball, I dislike sports, but that's ok because this series is barely about it.

My only real complaints about the show so far are that the comedy isn't as smart and funny as The West Wing's, and the constant shipping between two of the leads is flat-out annoying.  Dana isn't even that attractive or even likeable in some instances, and yet I'm supposed to care whether she hooks up with Casey?  They need to either hook up or the show needs to drop this storyline, because it's just not entertaining to watch.  Otherwise, it's fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 06, 2011, 10:47:40 PM

Star Wars: The Clone Wars (Season 4) - I really don't care anymore.  I lost interest in this show early on this series with a series of really lackluster episodes, so I have something like 6-7 episodes to catch up on and I just can't muster up the willingness to care.  I'll probably catch up on it when the season's over. C-

I am so over anything to do with the Clone Wars.  Everything is Anakin this and Obi-wan that.  Why can't they give us something set after the movies.  Or something set WAY back like in the KOTOR days?  (Come to think of it, I think Bioware should immediately stop making games and focus exclusively on Star Wars cutscenes.  Those cinematics for The Old Republic are nothing less than magnificent) I'm reading the latest Fate of the Jedi series of books, and this stuff is really interesting.  Why can't we have something like that?   

Give the Clone Wars era a rest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2011, 11:00:41 PM
I am so over anything to do with the Clone Wars.  Everything is Anakin this and Obi-wan that.  Why can't they give us something set after the movies.  Or something set WAY back like in the KOTOR days?  (Come to think of it, I think Bioware should immediately stop making games and focus exclusively on Star Wars cutscenes.  Those cinematics for The Old Republic are nothing less than magnificent) I'm reading the latest Fate of the Jedi series of books, and this stuff is really interesting.  Why can't we have something like that?   

Give the Clone Wars era a rest.

What really disappoints me about Clone Wars is that that show's second season was excellent.  It was bold, daring to do things that animated shows just don't do, like having Anakin torture an enemy for information or show the Separatists electrocuting a prisoner to death onscreen.  The show looked like it was going to tell some really engaging stories set in this time period, maybe give us a much grittier side of this war that the movies just didn't do.

Then Season 3 came, and the show seemed to get toned down and pointlessness ensued ("poisoned tea", anyone?).  The writing got sloppy.  Then Season 4 came, and we literally have two episodes devoted to an homage to the old Droids cartoon; incredibly lame underwater fights; and more episodes focused on Clone Troopers we just don't care about.

I wonder if Lucas had an "upend the tea table" moment with the creators of Clone Wars after Season 2 because of how dark/seedy and interesting it got.  They couldn't upstage the prequels, of course!  So the show got toned down and excessively padded so that it could be extended to 5 seasons until the new Live Action Star Wars series allegedly starts.  Ugh, what wasted potential.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 06, 2011, 11:03:13 PM
Last I heard this live action show was about bounty hunters or something.  Is that true?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 06, 2011, 11:10:56 PM
I like Sports Night, though now that I think about it I don't believe I finished it. I was watching it via Netflix (discs, not instant) a while back, but I'm pretty sure I got sidetracked onto something else and never went back. It's available for streaming on Netflix now, so I should go back and watch the rest of it.

Also, why isn't The West Wing on Netflix streaming? Sports Night and Studio 60 both are, and it seems like most other NBC shows are there as well.

And speaking of Aaron Sorkin, I am hugely excited for his new show. It's on HBO, which is always a good sign, and it seems similar to Sports Night in that it's behind the scenes at a TV show, except this time it's a news show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2011, 11:23:26 PM
Last I heard this live action show was about bounty hunters or something.  Is that true?

Something like that, last time I heard.  Expect Lucas to screw it up somehow, much like how Retro Studios was never allowed to make Samus Aran an actual bounty hunter in the Prime games despite that being her title.

And speaking of Aaron Sorkin, I am hugely excited for his new show. It's on HBO, which is always a good sign, and it seems similar to Sports Night in that it's behind the scenes at a TV show, except this time it's a news show.

Oh come on.  Is he really recycling his Sports Night idea again?  I love the guy's writing, but we've now had shows from him about:

1. Behind-the-scenes of a sports show.
2. Behind-the-scenes of the White House.
3. Behind-the-scenes of a painfully unfunny Saturday Night Live-style comedy show.

Do we really need to add...

4.  Behind-the-scenes of a news show.

...to the list?  Well, hopefully it'll be more like The West Wing and Sports Night, and less like Studio 60.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 06, 2011, 11:27:39 PM
Probably Boba Fett's life story or something like that.  Whatever it will be, it will be something that will be merchandise friendly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 06, 2011, 11:35:32 PM
And speaking of Aaron Sorkin, I am hugely excited for his new show. It's on HBO, which is always a good sign, and it seems similar to Sports Night in that it's behind the scenes at a TV show, except this time it's a news show.

Oh come on.  Is he really recycling his Sports Night idea again?  I love the guy's writing, but we've now had shows from him about:

1. Behind-the-scenes of a sports show.
2. Behind-the-scenes of the White House.
3. Behind-the-scenes of a painfully unfunny Saturday Night Live-style comedy show.

Do we really need to add...

4.  Behind-the-scenes of a news show.

...to the list?  Well, hopefully it'll be more like The West Wing and Sports Night, and less like Studio 60.

Well Sports Night got prematurely canceled and Studio 60 was just a strange choice of backdrop given what they tried to do with it, so he's never really been able to get into a groove with his "behind the scenes of a TV show" premise. The West Wing was something else entirely.

I think HBO is a good fit for his style; I love The West Wing, but I have no idea how it lasted seven seasons on a broadcast network. Though if you weren't a fan of The West Wing's politics you may not like this show, as it's supposedly about a cable news pundit kind of show (the kind of thing Colbert is satirizing).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 06, 2011, 11:39:16 PM
Probably Boba Fett's life story or something like that.  Whatever it will be, it will be something that will be merchandise friendly.

Yeah, I could see Lucas doing a Young Indiana Jones-style show with a young Attack of the Clones-era Boba Fett.

I'm really getting sick of the prequel era.  It's like I was really excited to see that Disney & Lucas were rebuilding the Star Tours ride at MGM and Disneyland with a new experience and new footage.  Then I saw that the new ride took place largely within the Prequel timeline, and Facepalms ensued.

Though if you weren't a fan of The West Wing's politics you may not like this show, as it's supposedly about a cable news pundit kind of show (the kind of thing Colbert is satirizing).

I think the real credit to the West Wing is that the show rises above Sorkin's politics.  It's obvious which side of the various arguments he believes in, but at least the show has the decency to provide both sides to a given situation without insulting either.  I'm a conservative, and the West Wing is one of my favorite TV shows of all time due to its writing and characters.  It's honest about where it stands, but at least it's fair.  If the new show does its audience the same courtesy, I won't have a problem with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on December 07, 2011, 12:07:00 AM
Curb Your Enthusiasm s4e1

To put it mildly, I looooove this show. I saw the first four seasons a few years ago as they were coming out on DVD but I had forgotten just how awesome it is. It might take you a while to get past some of the awkward/painful moments of the show, but once you do and accept Larry for the wonderful bastard that he is, it's gravy. I've rewatched the first 31 episodes and every one of them has been awesome. I want to be Larry David when I grow up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 07, 2011, 12:12:22 AM
Curb Your Enthusiasm s4e1

To put it mildly, I looooove this show. I saw the first four seasons a few years ago as they were coming out on DVD but I had forgotten just how awesome it is. It might take you a while to get past some of the awkward/painful moments of the show, but once you do and accept Larry for the wonderful bastard that he is, it's gravy. I've rewatched the first 31 episodes and every one of them has been awesome. I want to be Larry David when I grow up.

unfortunately, I think I already am, but the difference.... Im broke.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 07, 2011, 02:37:45 AM
Larry David is the man, but he's an idiot. So many situations could be avoided if he simply had the foresight to see them. But that's the point of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 07, 2011, 09:57:49 AM
Seasons 6 and 7 of CYE are both great. I hear 8 is great as well, haven't seen it though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 08, 2011, 01:27:19 AM
I have recently gotten into The Vampire Diaries. I had no interest in the show because is a CW show, but my girlfriend made me give it a shot an I am glad she did. The show is really good, the vampires are pretty bad ass (not Twilight non-sense), and interesting storylines. I finished catching up with the most recent episode, it returns in January and the mid-season finale had Stefan telling Klaus that he had the bodies of Klaus's family (Klaus is on of the original vampires, but his mother had had an affair with a werewolf and resulted in him being a wolf/vampire hybrid).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2011, 01:53:00 AM
*spoilers*?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 08, 2011, 02:09:40 AM
Can it really be considered a spoiler? The episode aired almost a month ago. Shouldn't the statute of limitations on spoilers expire several weeks after a TV episode has aired?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 08, 2011, 02:11:11 AM
Can it really be considered a spoiler? The episode aired almost a month ago. Shouldn't the statute of limitations on spoilers expire several weeks after a TV episode has aired?

Considering the tendency, especially here, for people to catch up on shows via torrents; Netflix; and whatnot, I tend to er on the side of caution when it comes to spoilers just to be safe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 08, 2011, 02:15:30 AM
I think something is fair game once it airs. However, I have decided to put part of my post in spoiler brackets. With TV shows, movies, and video games, there has to be a point where something is not considered a spoiler anymore. For example, saying that Maggie Simpson shot Mr. Burns is fine now, or that Aeris dies in Final Fantasy VII.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2011, 02:47:03 AM
Yes, but you are rating a show that you admit you are playing catch up on yourself.

Had I already seen VD and decided to detail some of the finer plot points before you got a chance to get into the show, then you might not appreciate that.

It's not like we are talking classic stuff that everyone knows, like Vader is Luke's father, so it should be possible for you to talk about the show without actually telling the details about what is happening, and if you must... spoiler brackets are much appreciated.

Vampire Diaries is on my list of shows to watch at some point, and now that you've confirmed that it is no Twilight bastardization of the genre, I will probably get to it sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 08, 2011, 03:45:29 AM
Is it me or is the general rise of vampires and werewolves caused the sudden death of anything else scifi (Stargate Universe, Caprica both cancelled, Fringe is struggling etc)?

And going back to my Family Guy dislike this season: I got half way through last week's episode and stopped. The fact that they can't even set up the story of WHY they were put into prison correctly, including directly ignoring that Joe (a police officer!!!!) has his badge thrown away and their car headlights smashed in by another police officer, but does nothing to report it and calls the trial a fix. What happened to laywers?

If this increasing flop of a show ain't going to make an effort then i'll just stop watching at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2011, 03:50:02 AM
I haven't seen a single episode this season.
Not of FG, AD or TCS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 08, 2011, 08:18:54 AM
If in doubt, just spoiler it.

This is a fairly international forum with people from all over the world and some are months, seasons and sometimes years behind. Sure some people could torrent them etc, but between data/speed caps, no doubt the incessant bitching from TJ Spyke over PIRACY!!!!?!?!, it might not always an option for whatever reason.

So yeah, a "Month" is very well within spoiler zone. Hell, significant plot points from old shows are spoiler territory if the show is a bit obscure or someone has stated they are catching up on it. It's not hard to spoiler something. Just do it out of common courtesy.

I asked for it quite a while ago, but never got an answer as to whether a spoiler button could be added to the tool bar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 08, 2011, 09:36:50 AM
I have to agree with the spoilers talk now.  Since Netflix and Hulu a lot of us our playing catch up more than we use to.  Especially using the recommendations here.

I tend to go be the general rule of:

1. Common Knowledge- Its just been known for so long that even before I watched the show I had known it.  Bruce Wayne is Batman. Optimus Prime Dies.
2. Core Part of the Shows Concept- I wouldn't spoiler out the Walking Dead has Zombies or that Captian Marvel is really a little boy.

Things I would spoiler ... I can't think of anything off the top of my head right now.  I think that because I haven't really been watching much lately.  Wait I thought of one.  In Transformers Animated Sari Sumdac is a very advanced Autobot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 08, 2011, 10:38:04 AM
I haven't seen a single episode this season.
Not of FG, AD or TCS.

Skip the other two, just watch AD. It's been hitting its stride this season with a string of great episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 08, 2011, 01:26:37 PM
I've been catching up on some shows.
Stargate Universe's ending was a bit lackluster. If they could just have one more season to decently finish it off.
I almost finished with Supernatural's season 6. I'm glad the show started to go back to normal i.e. Sam got his soul back, and now they could focus on just being who they are. I took a glimpse at the ending of season 6 and hot diggity damn are the Winchesters in for a ride. Of course I know season 7 is running, but hey it's still an epic situation.
Primeval, season 5. I'm still enjoying this series despite my favorite character not being in it since he got killed off, but it's still fun to watch.
Dexter's latest season has been good I think, I liked the recent twist.
Boardwalk Empire has been stale as of late I think, but it's somewhat enjoyable to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2011, 03:47:03 PM
I finished BSG yesterday....

"How did you do that so quickly!?"

I'm a FRACKIN' CYLON. I don't need no frackin' sleep.

S1 - Good, really pulled me into the show. Sense of near hopelessness of the situation yet they all hold onto the belief that there is an Earth out there (well, most of them anyway).
Tricia Helfer (Blonde Cylon) is was not that attractive to me, but they just keep prancing her around sometimes fully naked... she started to grow on me... well, something started to grow on me, but enough about that.
 :) :P: :cool;

s2 - Another good season... minus the slight shift to inter politics.
I have to say that Kara Thrace (Hot Shot female pilot "Star Buck") was actually kinda attractive herself once she started to grow her hair out. The boy cut was not doing her any favors. The longer her hair, the prettier she was. And Boomer would get it.
 :D ;D :confused;

But back to the show.... I seriously don't see why more people didn't think that Gias Baltar was a nut case. I know some thought he was odd since he is often looking off in random directions, but they often caught him having conversations and interacting with no one. He even got caught humping a FRACKIN' table!!

and WHAT THE FRAK is up with the self censorship? FRAK THIS!! NO. FRAK YOU!!!

s3 - This one started off alright, but the dynamic of the show changes somewhere around the middle. If I had to wait a week between episodes and months inbetween seasons, I might've quit somewhere in the middle of s3. But I was watching on Netflix and powering though 4-6 episodes a night, knocking out a season in a few days time, so it was easy to overlook some of the things that may have turned a bunch of people off to the show at that point.
so I figured I would just see it though to the end since I've come this far....
 :confused; :-\ :(

s4 - What The FRAK is going on now!? Now I'm not exactly sure where one season ended and the next one started, but all things aside... I think this is truly were things have just gotten stupid. back from the dead... harbinger of death who is actually already dead but is there to lead you to the true earth?. It's a good thing this is the last season.

But after it was all said and done, I enjoyed the show. "It's all happened before and will all happen again." and the message at the end about humanity's pursuit of technology ultimately being it's undoing tied in nicely with the overall message of the show.
 :Q :-\ :)

Overall - 3.25/5

I've also started Caprica....
more on that some other day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 08, 2011, 04:03:37 PM
What no Faces?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 08, 2011, 05:07:36 PM
Well, Black, I did warn you to turn back before the end of Season 3.  Now you endured the spiral of awfulness that that show became just as we did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 08, 2011, 11:12:51 PM
I have seen the pilot to Caprica. It wastes absolutely no time going from zero to season 4 awful in 10 minutes. The whole thing is pointlessly irrelevant and pretentious especially when you know that A. Everything gets nuked. B. They rip open the same packet of instant philosophy. C. The underlying "Culture" and world that is BSG is no near deep enough to support drama only.

Torchwood Miracle day might have spent too much time building a world that already exists, but the fun has always been seeing the subtle differences between theirs and ours. Caprica has the subtlety and the impact of a foam bat with frack and pointless use of polytheism. BSG before it crashed and burned, worked quite well with it's weird paper because the underlying culture was quick an easy to understand since it was contained. Everybody are on ships and they have to deal with each other. Sure they invoke the Gods here and there, but the end of that day they still had to confront the problem with fairly normal human manner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 08, 2011, 11:53:12 PM
I have seen the pilot to Caprica. It wastes absolutely no time going from zero to season 4 awful in 10 minutes. The whole thing is pointlessly irrelevant and pretentious especially when you know that A. Everything gets nuked. B. They rip open the same packet of instant philosophy. C. The underlying "Culture" and world that is BSG is no near deep enough to support drama only.

Torchwood Miracle day might have spent too much time building a world that already exists, but the fun has always been seeing the subtle differences between theirs and ours. Caprica has the subtlety and the impact of a foam bat with frack and pointless use of polytheism. BSG before it crashed and burned, worked quite well with it's weird paper because the underlying culture was quick an easy to understand since it was contained. Everybody are on ships and they have to deal with each other. Sure they invoke the Gods here and there, but the end of that day they still had to confront the problem with fairly normal human manner.

I also thought the progress of technology depicted in Caprica made absolutely no sense, less even than the glimpses we see of it in Battlestar.  They have paper that can connect to a holographic internet, but they still use 1950s-style cars and a fairly standard subway-style mass transit system.  They can travel the stars, but they still use guns with bullets and knives.  It just makes no sense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 09, 2011, 01:11:59 PM
Torchwood Miracle day really could have benefitted from having 1 or 2 typical Torchwood alien episodes in there to break up what was essentially a SUPER long Torchwood episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 10, 2011, 03:26:29 AM
i can see the cars thing, 1950s cars have good style, they are retro.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 10, 2011, 06:25:46 PM
Just started watching Community.

Dude. It's so awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2011, 06:28:56 PM
Can I spoil you with gifs from the latest episode?


sample:
http://i.imgur.com/0vSUt.gif
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 10, 2011, 06:32:19 PM
Please don't, as I haven't gotten around to watching any of the episodes from the current season yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2011, 06:56:39 PM
Well considering that we need to get more people interesting in the off chance that the show hasn't been canceled....

This is my "Save Our Show" effort

Haters Gonna Hate:
http://i.imgur.com/RcTUc.gif (http://i.imgur.com/RcTUc.gif)

Annie being Sexy:
http://i.imgur.com/9Gi19.gif (http://i.imgur.com/9Gi19.gif)
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http://i39.tinypic.com/2gub01t.jpg (http://i39.tinypic.com/2gub01t.jpg)
http://i.imgur.com/DjbUU.gif (http://i.imgur.com/DjbUU.gif)
http://i.imgur.com/pYGCy.gif (http://i.imgur.com/pYGCy.gif)
http://i.imgur.com/0vSUt.gif (http://i.imgur.com/0vSUt.gif)

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 10, 2011, 07:18:48 PM
Yes. Good. More of that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 11, 2011, 01:44:05 PM
(http://cdn.wg.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/brie-clay.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 12, 2011, 09:41:23 PM
Just saw that episode last night. I laughed very hard, especially at the outtakes of this scene!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2011, 09:52:03 PM
please post a link to the outtakes. I haven't seen them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 12, 2011, 10:31:13 PM
NO GHOSTING!

That women is a national treasure.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2011, 11:27:11 PM
So I've been watching Caprica.... sort of watching. been giving it about 40-65% attention span.
But this show is kinda dull, to put it lightly.

I think one of it's main problems is that it doesn't know what kind of show it is trying to be.
You've got The Matrix meets The Lawnmower man going on complete with 2 Neo's and Homeland (Domestic Religious Terrorist), Law & Order, Dexter's Labaroatory, The Terminator & Grand Theft Auto meets Goodfellas all in a Next-Gen HD mush of Greys and Browns.

There is simply too much going on yet nothing all that interesting is really happening.
I'm sure I cold mash some more movie/tv titles into the comparison, but I think you get the point.

I'm not sure why I force this on as background noise, but I think I'm just trying to get through the series.
I have to say though that Zoe in her skin tight leather pants kicking ass in the New Cap City was pretty hot. Peaked my interest for the last few eps... until they did the whole "we control this universe" thing and transformed the terrain like this was minecraft.


edit: I forgot to mention that they have a mix of tech from 2048 with style from 1948
They have the tech to live their entire life virtually and create robots that are fully automated and very capable, yet drive around in cars from the late depression on up to late 90's models of a Ford Taurus. They have MS Touch Tables as a computer interface, digital paper that is like a tablet you can fold into a paper crane and stuff in your pocket and holovisors that you put on and live a virtual life, but they still use conventional ammo for their guns and no sight of a plasma knife or some other weaponry tech that would fit with their level of advancement.


But at least the special effects are better than you would expect from a cable TV show. Far from great, but very acceptable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 13, 2011, 12:09:37 AM
Speaking of boring shows, I finished season 1 of Sports Night and sadly I'm finding my interest in the series severely waning.  While the first half was fun and breezy, the second half just got bogged down in romance drama and not terribly interesting stories.  It's gone from a show that I could enjoy just listening to the dialogue (a trait it shares with the West Wing) to a show I can easily follow only somewhat paying attention to the episodes, and that's not good.  I don't care if Casey and Dana get together, as I find them both almost equally annoying.  Despite them having almost no chemistry, the show has gotten obsessed over whether they'll hook up or not.  Bleh.

I might as well watch Season 2, though.  I have hours of tedious grinding to do in Fate/Extra on my PSP, so I might as well let that be my background noise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 13, 2011, 02:47:04 PM
I edited my previous post, but I forgot to mention that I finished Caprica.

It's basically the birth of the Cylons and was suppose to lead into s2 which was the lead in to the original Cylon war.

But what doesn't make sense was the preview for next season
How would Sister Clarice not only still be free, but still have access to the V world? The Graystones would have definitely gotten her arrested, not only for the attempted murder of them, but the attempted mass suicide/terrorist attack on the stadium that she orchestrated. She should be locked deep into a whole in their equivalent of  Guantanamo Bay never to be seen or heard from again.

So glad that was a 1 seasoner though. It was dull, the scenery was drab and the storyline was contrived in a way as to force 2 pieces of a puzzle together that don't actually go together. Only they were doing it with 4 or 5 pieces from several different puzzles and box of legos.

Overall 2.5/5

 :-\  (http://i.imgur.com/uZkuv.jpg) :confused; :) :-\
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2011, 05:34:11 PM
I never watched Caprica; it never appealed to me, but I am somewhat excited for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome, the upcoming show that's set during the first Cylon war.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 13, 2011, 05:41:26 PM
I never watched Caprica; it never appealed to me, but I am somewhat excited for Battlestar Galactica: Blood & Chrome, the upcoming show that's set during the first Cylon war.

The problem with that show, though, is that it's not only a prequel, but a prequel where we already know how the story ends (especially since we see how it ends in the Battlestar Galactica: The Plan movie).  I'm not against a prequel show that fills in story that previously wasn't altogether defined, which is why I watched Caprica and Star Trek Enterprise.  But although I expect that Blood & Chrome will have some nice action scenes noticeably missing from both the last few seasons of Battlestar and Caprica, is there really much it can say or do that we don't already know?  Well, I hope the writers are up to the challenge.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 13, 2011, 06:08:42 PM
Star Trek Enterprise Didn't Happen. There is no Starship Enterprise before NCC-1701.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 13, 2011, 06:11:16 PM
Star Trek Enterprise Didn't Happen. There is no Starship Enterprise before NCC-1701.

Eh, Enterprise was a decent show that had a great last couple of years.  I'm still amused that after the terrible Star Trek reboot that Enterprise is the only show left in continuity.  Must suck for you.   :P: : :

Now the original Star Trek?  There's a show I'd like to wipe from continuity.  Good lord that show was bad, redeemed only by 3.5 out of the 6 movies that followed it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 13, 2011, 06:15:15 PM
Enterprise was a better show than the original series, ESPECIALLY seasons 3 and 4. The problem is that UPN had no patience, Enterprise was finally hitting its stride and the storylines planned for season 5 (which new showrunner Manny Cotto revealed after the cancellation announcement) were gonna be really interesting.

brood, nothing was wiped from continutity. All the last movie did was create ANOTHER timeline. The original timeline still exists. Enterprise does have the distinction of being part of both timelines though (and in the main one, Romulus is now destroyed, which may be interesting to explore when Paramount finally goes back to it).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2011, 06:23:04 PM
The last two seasons of Enterprise were great, and the first two seasons were at least as good as the first two seasons of any other Star Trek show (and far, far better than the largely awful first two seasons of TNG). That show gets a lot of undeserved hate.

(and in the main one, Romulus is now destroyed, which may be interesting to explore when Paramount finally goes back to it).

It's very optimistic of you to use the word "when" there. Though, based on some of the non-canon stuff that's been done there, there's a lot of interesting potential if they decide to go back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 13, 2011, 07:09:59 PM
I thought that Enterprise was pretty good outside of that entire season wasted on the Xindi War (and the opening theme). I stopped watching it then and there. It was only within the last two or three years that I went back and watched it all consecutively. The final season was by far the best and showed a lot of potential. It's sad that most people stop caring before it got to that point.

Regardless, Enterprise was by far better than that J.J. Abrams film. *shudder*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 13, 2011, 07:37:33 PM
I think too many people hate on the Xindi story arc, I thought it was pretty good for the most part.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 13, 2011, 07:45:00 PM
I think too many people hate on the Xindi story arc, I thought it was pretty good for the most part.

So do I.  Not only is it probably the most consistent story arc in Star Trek (yes, I know about the Dominion War.  I watched it.  It was maybe 30 episodes of content dragged out over the course of 4 years with a lot of filler in-between), but it also featured some story ideas that Star Trek just wouldn't have been done in other shows (like the really great episode where Archer attacks and boards a friendly ship to steal ship parts they need to get to their vital rendezvous in time.  Plus, it was pretty cool seeing just how close to being completely obliterated the Enterprise got towards the end of that arc, with persistent damage that had the thing practically crawling through space towards the end.

My only real problems with the Xindi arc was how long it took to get going, plus how it ended with a cliffhanger tying into the lame story arc that looked like it would never end: the Temporal Cold War.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2011, 08:42:58 PM
To be fair, that storyline did end, and in the very next episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 13, 2011, 09:46:11 PM
The show was already hemorrhaging viewers, the last thing it needed was a serialized plot line. The fact that the Xindi arch was nothing more than a poorly conceived response to the 9/11 attacks didn't help either. Despite the push from Rick Berman, Star Trek has never been about war, let alone been a propaganda piece. As you said, the best thing to come of the entire story thread was an end to the even dumber Temporal Cold War. If they had wanted to dwell on such conflict for a few episodes, they should have saved it for a theoretical fifth or sixth season with the Romulans... not some laughable splintered species that they pulled out of their ass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2011, 09:59:31 PM
You're reading way too much into it if you think the Xindi arc was a propaganda piece. And I don't see why Star Trek shouldn't touch on war from time to time (though I wouldn't really consider the Xindi thing a war anyway). One of the reasons I love DS9 and the later seasons of Enterprise so much is that they offer a more realistic take on the Star Trek mythology.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 13, 2011, 10:03:28 PM
I swear you guys get into a Trekky argument once every 3 pages.

Boardwalk Empire S2

Dope as hell, but not as hmmm...how should I put this?....smart as the first season. It seemed to try to do too much and then kinda ended up doing to little to satisfy my lust for back-stabbery even though there was plenty of it. It kinda has me in a weird place. I can't really find any faults to point at, but I feel as if something was missing. Still, one of the best new shows on HBO and TV in general.

 ;D :) :( :D :Q :cool;
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 13, 2011, 10:04:19 PM
Yeah, give or take. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 13, 2011, 11:01:35 PM
I swear you guys get into a Trekky argument once every 3 pages.

It's Trekker, not Trekkie! :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 13, 2011, 11:49:53 PM
I just started 30 Rock the other day. I'm hooked.

"Yeah, suck it. I do read the paper."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 14, 2011, 12:28:28 AM
I've been watching that with my roommates lately. It's their first time; I've seen up to the end of Season 4 but that was a while ago. We're buzzing through it, watching the first two seasons in about four or five nights, and loving it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 14, 2011, 12:39:51 AM
I just finished the second (and last) season of Sports Night.  Overall, I hated this season.  Yeah, it's terrible.  What was a somewhat amusing comedy series about the wacky things that can happen in broadcast television got mired in romantic subplots that I just couldn't give a flying **** about, with characters I feel similarly about, and nothing else.  They even managed to ruin for most of the season the only good romance on the show, the one between Jeremy and Natalie.  There were a few good moments, though, that really felt like they could have been hilarious if the show had expanded the concept, such as the episode where they discover they have to do 2 hours of coverage on what turns out to be a 7 second long boxing match.  That's funny and interesting, so why weren't there more episodes about that rather than who in the office is ****ing who?

For as much as I hated about 1.5 seasons of this show, though, it did have a good ending.  It was built-up well, the characters had some resolution, and the way the story played out was a good note to end the series on.  I still don't recommend this series, though.  If you want to watch an Aaron Sorkin show, watch the one that was actually great: The West Wing.  Accept no substitutes, at least until we see how this upcoming HBO series of his turns out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 14, 2011, 01:40:47 AM
Aww. I missed the Enterprise debate. That said, I'm still going to quickly add my thoughts to the matter.

I've always like Enterprise. Yes, there were a lot of things that could be grating. But I honestly like it better than any other series except TNG. Last year, I watched all the episodes again from beginning to end also and finally saw a couple I had missed when they aired way back when.

Anyways, I did enjoy the early exploration feel in the early first season. Like when Archer and crew finally step on a newly discovered M2 class planet and are taking pictures of the event. That's very true to life. The show really took off in the latter half of the second season only to get derailed by having the whole Xindi plot.

That said, I have mixed feelings on the Xindi plot. Some parts of it were really good and other parts were subpar or filler. I liked the whole sphere mystery and how badly the Enterprise got beaten down near the end and that Archer had to resolve a lot of the matter by negotiating.

The Temporal Cold War was a mess. It started out with much potential and I didn't mind the Suliban as villians but then it turned into such a lowstakes ending and so much of it was rendered irrelavent. You look back on the first two seasons, nothing featured about the Cold War had anything to do with how it ended. Though for that matter, things were also kept pretty vague a lot of the time on any plot details about it so it all ended up being a wash.

The fourth season definitely started to pick the pace back up to where season 2 had gotten but I was never a fan of the 3 part arcs. Some worked better than others. And then it didn't end well. The Orion women taking over the ship. The Xenophobe Moon plot was rushed and muddled and then they turn the finale into a sidepoint/footnote of a TNG episode and kill Trip just because. Somehow, that makes it more powerful I guess.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 14, 2011, 04:12:30 AM
The Xenophobe Moon plot was rushed and muddled and then they turn the finale into a sidepoint/footnote of a TNG episode and kill Trip just because. Somehow, that makes it more powerful I guess.

Hey, the First Rule about being an Enterprise fan is that we do not acknowledge the existence of that abomination of an episode that Shall Not Be Named, which served only to worship TNG and destroy everything Enterprise was.  The series ended decently with Terra Prime, and that is reality.   ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 14, 2011, 01:59:45 PM
Battlestar Galactica: Blood and Chrome? Is that title a deliberate spoof/homage of "Spartacus: Blood and Sand"?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 14, 2011, 02:08:04 PM
I'm guessing Enterprise is on Netflix with the rest of them.  I'm wondering if its worth forcing myself through the first season.  I was super excited for Enterprise when it came out.  It sounded like exactly what I wanted in a new Star Trek.  Then it thoroughly offended me by the middle of the first season and I just stopped watching it.  Though I did watch the monster hunting series that aired after it.  That was fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on December 14, 2011, 02:11:40 PM
It's worth watching. It's short enough that I'm sure you can grind through it. Stick it out through the Xindi arch and you'll be pleased by the end. It's still a more entertaining show than DS9 ever was. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 14, 2011, 03:04:59 PM
DS9 is the best Trek series to me (especially seasons 4-7). The Xindi arc is something people seem to either love or hate.

If you like the Mirror Universe episodes from DS9 and TOS, you will want to make sure and watch the two part season 4 episodes "In a Mirror, Darkly". They are set entirely within the Mirror Universe (none in the regular one) and they even created a new intro just for these two (that focus on war and conquering rather than exploration).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 14, 2011, 03:25:14 PM
In a Mirror, Darkly is the answer to the question "How much fan service can you pack into one story while still being fun and enjoyable?".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 14, 2011, 03:39:12 PM
It's worth watching. It's short enough that I'm sure you can grind through it. Stick it out through the Xindi arch and you'll be pleased by the end. It's still a more entertaining show than DS9 ever was. ;)
Blasphemy :P  I like DS9 Until the Dominion Wars.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 18, 2011, 03:43:17 AM
As I've been playing Skyrim, I've started watching Season 3 of The 4400, and honestly I'm really not enjoying this season.  The writing has been very unsatisfying, especially with the way the start of Season 3 writes Lily (a generally likeable character) out of the show and makes Isabelle an even more annoying character (which I hadn't thought possible).  And the way that Maya has been dealt with feels particularly unsatisfying, as it feels like 2 years of stories with her have just been rendered completely pointless.

And seriously, **** the people from "the Future" and their "Great Calamity".  Future civilizations like this are why people in the past are often so reluctant to help time travelers in movies and TV shows.  They're just complete and total pricks (how appropriate that they seem to be led by the Borg Queen herself), and every bad thing that happens on this show is pretty much their fault.  It really is Enterprise's Temporal Cold War all over again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on December 18, 2011, 04:23:37 AM
I just finished up the finale of Cheers. I think I've talked about the show before in this thread, but it really is one of the best examples of the sitcom genre that has ever been produced. Not many shows that last for 11 seasons can be said to have been great the whole way through, but Cheers managed it by reinventing itself a couple times along the way. Shelley Long leaving when she did may have been the best thing that could have happened to the show, as it forced them to switch up the formula. The Sam and Dianne mechanic, a cliche that was invented by and named after this show, could not have lasted 11 years, but by forcing the change they prolonged the life of the show by turning it into something very different, but just as good.

Any fan of TV comedy should watch this show. It's remarkable how well it holds up almost 30 years after it started, and is full of laugh out loud moments from the pilot right up until the end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 04, 2012, 04:32:06 AM
Community: Modern Warfare. Best episode EVER. Until the next one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 04, 2012, 08:26:09 AM
Sherlock - A Scandal in Belgravia. Steven Moffat is on rip-roaring form here. The pace and speed is blistering but everything, everything is on point. Writing, acting, editing, directing. All of it.

It's just that good. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GK on January 06, 2012, 08:33:56 AM
Been hooked on a British series airing on Hulu called Misfits lately. Just saw Two from season 2 last night. Another good ep, the ending has an unexpected twist, & apparently party drugs make super powers work in reverse.

The show is something like Heroes only the main cast are a group of degenerates serving a community service sentence. While there are serious moments, you'll find yourself laughing a lot especially whenever Nathan is in the scene. No matter what's going on, he seems to always find a way joke around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2012, 01:24:43 PM
That was my favorite show for a moment.

At first Nathan was an annoying little bugger, but then he quickly grew to be my favorite person on the show. I actually just finished the 3rd season a few days ago. Looong wait till season 4.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 06, 2012, 02:10:43 PM
Misfits is what Heroes could have became if it didn't try to be a big sprawling show IMO.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 06, 2012, 03:04:24 PM
Sherlock - A Scandal in Belgravia. Steven Moffat is on rip-roaring form here. The pace and speed is blistering but everything, everything is on point. Writing, acting, editing, directing. All of it.

It's just that good. Highly recommended.

Agreed. It's probably the best yet. I'm still not sold on the guy they have playing Moriarty, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 15, 2012, 06:36:57 PM
Sherlock - A Scandal in Belgravia. Steven Moffat is on rip-roaring form here. The pace and speed is blistering but everything, everything is on point. Writing, acting, editing, directing. All of it.

It's just that good. Highly recommended.

Agreed. It's probably the best yet. I'm still not sold on the guy they have playing Moriarty, though.

Nor am I.  I just started watching the show a couple of days ago, and now I'm caught up to last week's episode.  I really don't like this show's Moriarty, who comes off less as a meglomaniacal kingpin of crime and more of a Joker impersonator by way of the Dark Knight.

Overall, I like the show and I think it largely makes the right updates to make the source material relevant to a modern audience (though I still really like Basil Rathbone's Sherlock Holmes).  Really, my only two big issues with the series are that the 2 hour stories can really drag around the 1 hour mark, and I wish the show didn't reference the original stories as much as it does.  It was particularly absurd in the Season 1 finale, where at least 3 old Sherlock Holmes stories were thrown together in a blender.  I could also do without the gay jokes, especially with this series making it very much clear that Holmes and Watson are not.  It's not blown ridiculously over-the-top like the Guy Richie movies do, but I still have to groan as a Sherlock, Holmes fan every time they go to that well.

I've also been watching the occasional episode of the 1991 animated TV series The Adventures of Tintin, somewhat in preparation for eventually seeing the recent animated film.  It's good old-fashioned adventure storytelling that reminds me a lot of Jonny Quest (or perhaps I should say that Jonny Quest reminds me a lot of Tintin considering the Tintin novels came first).  The animation is really spotty and the video quality of this restored series varies wildly, but the character designs are nice and memorable in their simplicity.  Sadly, the show seems to have a nasty case of Twin Peaks syndrome in its soundtrack, where the show only uses the same one song the entire episode.
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Post by: nickmitch on January 16, 2012, 12:01:06 AM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.
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Post by: Morari on January 16, 2012, 02:27:16 PM
Sherlock - A Scandal in Belgravia. Steven Moffat is on rip-roaring form here. The pace and speed is blistering but everything, everything is on point. Writing, acting, editing, directing. All of it.

It's just that good. Highly recommended.

Agreed. It's probably the best yet. I'm still not sold on the guy they have playing Moriarty, though.

Nor am I.  I just started watching the show a couple of days ago, and now I'm caught up to last week's episode.  I really don't like this show's Moriarty, who comes off less as a meglomaniacal kingpin of crime and more of a Joker impersonator by way of the Dark Knight.

I can see that. I think he just seems, well, whiny more than anything. I wonder if this has been the general reaction, as they seem to have moved off of the topic of Moriarty quite quickly after building up to him the way they did. I'd rather he be an unseen force in the background anyway. I just hope that the series finale (years from now?) takes the 7% Solution route. ;)

I just watched through the first season of American Horror Story. I was interested to see how an anthology show would play out with season-long stories. I hope that the next season fairs better. While I was initially intrigued by this season's plot, it quickly became convoluted in a menagerie of minor characters and their seemingly pointless histories. The ending played out just as you would have expected from episode six onward, filling just about every haunted house trope you can imagine. No real payoff. Still, the acting and production values were generally good... so I'm interested to see what they'll do with a completely new tale next season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 16, 2012, 05:17:46 PM
Legend of Galatic Hereos

10/10

I could write a thesis 20 pages long about this show and its depth and wonderful insight into human motives, passion, and consequences, but I will spare you what would amount to be an incredibly interesting paper and simply recommend this show.

Though the animation is simply decent and there are several times where you'll notice the same b-roll, the real strength is the story which is a Game of Thrones-like Space Opera. Characters are fleshed out to such a degree that ambitions predict motives, motives predict actions, and actions predict plot. Some may want peace, others wealth and others power; rarely are there one-sided characters. Best of all, the narrative doesn't force an agenda or message on you. There isn't an antagonist and protagonist, a right or wrong; there is only the telling of the story. When axe battles (yes axe battles) full of blood and badass-ery are slightly less entertaining then a conversation between two Admirals, you know through and through that you are watching something special.

Though it may start slow and very anime-ish, I can't think of an episode that could be labeled as filler. A couple points during the 110 episodes it focuses on past history, usually told in a documentary watched by a character, but even those episodes are incredibly entertaining and round societies with a wealth of depth.

This show will not be for everyone due to its meticulous pace and sub-par animation, but to those who are looking for a series that takes care of its characters, setting, and story with pointillism quality, this should not be missed.

Lastly, there was several times as I was watching where I said to myself "This could be an amazing trilogy." I even felt compelled to write a script loosely based on it. I'm sure many of you who watch it will feel the same way.

 :confused; :) :D ;D :Q :D :)

P.s. there are some genuinely funny moments usually by Commander Poplan who would be perfectedly played by Ryan Reynolds talking to his celebit friend about women or age or by the overall strangeness of anime from time to time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 16, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
I've heard a lot of great things about Legend of Galactic Heroes (it sounds a lot like what Crest/Banner of the Stars was trying to do), but as it's very likely to never be picked up by a western distribution company I'll probably never see it.  Watching a show undubbed with subtitles is a real turn-off for me, especially as dubs have improved so much over the last 15 years or so.  I'll check it out if Funimation or Sentai ever feels brave enough to pick up the license.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 16, 2012, 06:08:22 PM
Im usually not a fan of dub but it could have been used here because of how quickly and concisely they speak (odd for Japanese but they use a lot of metaphors). I'm a quick reader and even I had to rewind sometimes in order to recieve all the information. The voice acting is really good however. I wasn't shock to find out that there were over a hundred voice actors. That's nearly one for every character.

I wouldn't ignore it since this is such a wonderful show (I refuse to say anime as it is deserving to be judged outside of that category). It takes a bit to get into but it soon becomes addicting.

I would also recommend to those that want to watch it to go to YouTube and search "logh" instead of downloading from torrents.  It has all the episodes (usually split into three parts) and the subs used on YouTube are much better.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 16, 2012, 07:38:01 PM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on January 16, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.

We will have to agree to disagree. I thought that movie was absolute garbage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2012, 11:36:30 PM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.

We will have to agree to disagree. I thought that movie was absolute garbage.

2nd'd.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 17, 2012, 12:04:02 PM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.

We will have to agree to disagree. I thought that movie was absolute garbage.

2nd'd.

3rd'd
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 19, 2012, 01:53:42 AM
i just started watching the big bang theory, i was an idiot for not liking it before

also, if you ever lived in a primarily mormon town in idaho than Napoleon Dynamite is one of the funniest things ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 19, 2012, 11:26:11 AM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.

We will have to agree to disagree. I thought that movie was absolute garbage.

2nd'd.

3rd'd
4th'd

The Misses 5th'd
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Manthony Chopkins on January 19, 2012, 06:53:17 PM
Started watching Breaking Bad over my Winter Break. It has since become my latest addiction. Drama is a genre that I can have a hard time getting into, but with this show it is different. It does help that there are comedic moments in quite a few of the episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 20, 2012, 06:16:32 AM
Started watching Breaking Bad over my Winter Break. It has since become my latest addiction. Drama is a genre that I can have a hard time getting into, but with this show it is different. It does help that there are comedic moments in quite a few of the episodes.

You're in for a real treat. In my opinion, Breaking Bad is easily the best show on television right now, and probably second only to The Wire all time. Also, luckily for you, season four (the last to air) doesn't end on a ridiculous cliffhanger like season three did, so it won't be as torturous to wait for the next and final season once you catch up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 20, 2012, 11:26:06 AM
Yeah, end of season 4 could have worked as the end of the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 20, 2012, 03:12:26 PM
The Napoleon Dynamite cartoon premiered today. It was almost as terrible as the movie.

The movie was not bad, so saying the show is as good as the movie is a good thing.

We will have to agree to disagree. I thought that movie was absolute garbage.

2nd'd.

3rd'd
4th'd

The Misses 5th'd
6th'd.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on January 21, 2012, 07:54:28 PM
Boardwalk Empire Season 2

...it was glorious :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 24, 2012, 12:20:04 AM
Finished season 1 of American Horror Story. Watched the last 8 episodes in the last 2 days. Really good show. Co-creator Ryan Murphy has said that season 2 will be in a new location and with a new cast, which pretty much is needed after what happened by the end of season 1. Pretty much none of the characters were that good, except maybe Mrs. Harnan.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 24, 2012, 12:39:21 PM
I also just watched through the first season of American Horror Story last week. I was interested to see how an anthology show would play out with season-long stories. I hope that the next season fairs better. While I was initially intrigued by this season's plot, it quickly became convoluted in a menagerie of minor characters and their seemingly pointless histories. The ending played out just as you would have expected from episode five onward, filling just about every haunted house trope you can imagine. The ending had no real payoff, with the very last episode being downright stupid. Still, the acting and production values were generally good... so I guess I'm interested to see what they'll do with a completely new tale next season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 25, 2012, 01:52:07 AM
I'm watching Arrested Development again.  Just finished the first half of Season 3.  If you've never watched this show before, do it now.  Arrested Development is to the sitcom what Breaking Bad is to drama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 27, 2012, 05:27:39 PM
Bob Loblaw.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 27, 2012, 06:52:01 PM
's Law Blog
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2012, 12:04:34 AM
House of Lies (Showtime)
starring Don Cheadle & Kristen Bell

Top business consultants show how the game is played to put it as vaguely as possible.

My favorite new show of the new year so far. It's fast paced and a little raunchy. So far (3 episodes in) I luv it.

Check it out if you have time and are looking for a new show. Adult Humor, Sexual Content, Nudity,  Language and everything else you would expect from a SHO dramedy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 28, 2012, 03:11:23 PM
wait nudity? Kristin Bell?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 28, 2012, 04:50:57 PM
wait nudity? Kristin Bell?

What's the point?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 28, 2012, 11:24:38 PM
what's not the point?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2012, 11:33:45 PM
Entertaining show.

plenty of sex and nudity.

Cheadle is breaking them off, sexually and financially in the show.
It's funny, it's fun and even a little informative as Cheadle sometimes pauses the action to clue you into terminology, little trade secrets or just to get you up to speed by walking you through the scene. (Think of when Zack Morris would call time out on Saved by the Bell).

Very worth atleast checking out if you have the time. You'll know if you like it or not in the first 5 minutes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 28, 2012, 11:45:42 PM
Life and Times of Tim s3

As funny as the first and second season if not funnier. I thought nothing could beat Mexican Tim, Homeless Tim or Mad Dog Tim, but man Jenga was hysterical.

EDIT:

On BNM authority, I watch HOUSE OF LIES and it's a damn good show. Hopefully soon it'll become great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 29, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
what's not the point?

Did you...did you see Forgetting Sarah Marshall? Here, let me lift up my shirt real quick. There: more impressive. You can thank me later. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 29, 2012, 06:35:57 PM
I've been going back through Community from the beginning to introduce it to one of my roommates, and we got through season 1 (in three sittings). This show is just so brilliantly written and just the right amount of crazy. Still for my money the best comedy on television right now, although it has some stiff competition.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 29, 2012, 09:00:26 PM
The set of que
what's not the point?

Did you...did you see Forgetting Sarah Marshall? Here, let me lift up my shirt real quick. There: more impressive. You can thank me later. LOL

The set of questions is
Do I like to see girls naked? Yes
Who would I rather see naked: Rosie O'donald or Kristen Bell? Kristen Bell
Would I want to see Kristen Bell naked? I don't not want to
Have I seen Sarah Marshal? Yes
Do I remember seeing her nude? No, the only thing i remember from Sarah Marshall is Jason Segal's dong, and Mila Kunis's Photoshopped shot. Kristen Bell wears a top even in sex scenes.
Do I care she may not be the bustiest women in television? Not so much
If there was a more attractive actress would I rather see her? Yes, but preferably I would like to see all of them.
So in conclusion that is the point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on January 29, 2012, 09:57:27 PM
Still for my money the best comedy on television right now, although it has some stiff competition.

Agreed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 29, 2012, 10:39:58 PM
The set of que
what's not the point?

Did you...did you see Forgetting Sarah Marshall? Here, let me lift up my shirt real quick. There: more impressive. You can thank me later. LOL

The set of questions is
Do I like to see girls naked? Yes
Who would I rather see naked: Rosie O'donald or Kristen Bell? Kristen Bell
Would I want to see Kristen Bell naked? I don't not want to
Have I seen Sarah Marshal? Yes
Do I remember seeing her nude? No, the only thing i remember from Sarah Marshall is Jason Segal's dong, and Mila Kunis's Photoshopped shot. Kristen Bell wears a top even in sex scenes.
Do I care she may not be the bustiest women in television? Not so much
If there was a more attractive actress would I rather see her? Yes, but preferably I would like to see all of them.
So in conclusion that is the point.


Respect.

Naw, she didn't get her top off in Sarah Marshall (neither did Mila, who's similarly un-endowed) but she DID have a bikini top on. Even I admit, there are some girls who are flat as a board or PROBABLY flat as a board who I wouldn't mind seeing sans top: chief among them Anna Kendrick (Up in the Air, 50/50). I can't explain it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2012, 02:12:02 AM
Let's just say that I could gif Kristen Bell dancing around in her bra and panties (w/ close-ups) if I wanted to.

I enjoy the show. Stogi enjoys the show.
and I just hope it stays as good if not gets better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 30, 2012, 12:48:38 PM
I haven't seen the show, but thanks to egotastic, which you introduced me to, im in good hands
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 31, 2012, 01:31:54 AM
Egotistic is amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2012, 09:17:33 PM
LOf'nL @ ep5 of House of Lies.

The Mormon chick and everything was hilarious.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 07, 2012, 04:36:29 PM
http://i.imgur.com/EcUC1.jpg
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Post by: Stogi on February 15, 2012, 10:28:54 AM
Spartacus Season 2 (so far)

This is the future of television - euphemisms and metaphors intermingled with bad grammar, indiscriminate nudity with absolutely no purpose, and blood -- gallons of it -- tossed at the screen in super slow motion.

Still the best soft-core porno I've ever seen though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 15, 2012, 03:22:58 PM
I'd prefer to think the rise of intelligent, well-written drama like on AMC and HBO is the future of television, but realistically what you said seems much more likely, sadly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 15, 2012, 04:12:12 PM
I have a fairly extensive backlog of movies/tv/game impressions to write on the forums, so I might as well get this one over with first:

So The Walking Dead is back, and despite numerous viewer complaints the characters are still on that ****ing farm bickering at each other and generally being emo, making me despise each and every one of them.  If this show doesn't pick up soon, this will be my last season of the show.  I haven't seen a show descend into "suck" this badly and this fast since the second season of Heroes, a comparison I'm sure AMC is proud of.

While playing through Final Fantasy XIII-2, I also finished watching The 4400, and while the show did improve since the last time I talked about it (several episodes into season 3), by the end I just didn't care about the show anymore.  There's only so many backstabbings; sudden character changes; and allegiance-switching I can take before I just want the entire cast to die horrible, painful deaths, and The 4400 crossed that line by the end of season 3.  There were almost no likeable characters left by the end of the show (and several I'd despised for several seasons, like Isabelle, somehow managed to stay alive), where (naturally) it ended on an extremely open and unsatisfying ending because the show was canceled.  I will give the writers credit, though: the moral dilemma they presented as the main story of Season 4 was an interesting one, though looking back I think it made the show less engaging by downplaying the importance of the characters we had followed the previous seasons.  A good show with a lot of unrealized potential, ruined by trying so hard to be "edgy" that it was no longer likeable.

I've started watching House as well, and as I'm nearly at the end of the first season I like the show despite generally not liking this kind of show.  House is an interesting character, and the characters he surrounds himself with generally don't irritate me that much.  The show's formula can get rather grating ("everyone gets the diagnosis & treatment wrong until the last 6 minutes, where a last piece of missing information leads to the miracle cure"), but the characters make the show worth watching.

The US version of Being Human is back as well, and it's been a good season so far.  I'm disappointed that a key element of Nora and Josh's relationship from last season got written out so easily since it was leading Josh down a path I found really good for his character, but the twist it has taken has not been boring.  Sally has more to do now that she can possess people, and Aidan is...not irritating.  The writing has been engaging enough, so for now it's a show worth following.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 15, 2012, 04:19:25 PM
It's House's last season. While I'm said to see my favorite FOX character die, I'd like to think that it opens Hugh Laurie to other projects.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on February 16, 2012, 07:26:07 AM
after watching breaking bad season 3 ep 7

I'm kind of dissapointed they kept Jesse Pinkman around, the creators of the show I mean. He was fine at first and the way he is makes sense for the first 2 seasons but i really cant stand his character anymore, espesially when he was having a bit of character development but then goes back to crime :/


Aside from that I'm really liking it :D



Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 16, 2012, 08:34:08 AM
I don't want to spoil anything, but I think you may change your mind about him a bit once you've completely caught up with the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 16, 2012, 08:39:15 AM
House of Lies

So far so good. Still as witty as ever and it seems like character development is growing with each episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on February 16, 2012, 02:17:33 PM
I don't want to spoil anything, but I think you may change your mind about him a bit once you've completely caught up with the show.

Yuuuuuuuuup.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 16, 2012, 10:29:34 PM
Modern Family

This season's not nearly as hilarious as Season 2. It seems like they're focusing more on character growth, which is great, but it gets in the way of the ha-has.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 16, 2012, 10:41:08 PM
Just started Doctor Who, series 1 from 2005. 3 episodes in, it's fun. I'm hoping it lives up to the hype as I keep going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 16, 2012, 10:45:11 PM
Season 1 was so-so, with only a couple of good episodes (not just my opinion, it's the one most people seem to have). It gets much better when David Tennant takes over as the Doctor (who is still the best doctor IMO).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 16, 2012, 11:02:40 PM
I liked the second episode a lot ("The End of the World"), very Doug Adams-y.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on February 17, 2012, 02:05:12 PM
Season 1 was so-so, with only a couple of good episodes (not just my opinion, it's the one most people seem to have). It gets much better when David Tennant takes over as the Doctor (who is still the best doctor IMO).

Nah, Christopher Eccleston was great. He just wasn't given enough time to really shine. The show does pick up considerably once Tennant comes on board, but that's mostly due to the writing, not the acting. Sadly, it starts going down hill pretty fast once Matt Smith takes over.

Tom Baker was the best Doctor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 17, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
Eccleston never seemed all that into the role. I love Tennant's doctor, how he could go from being jokey and fun loving to being ultra serious if he got pissed off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 17, 2012, 02:31:12 PM
Eccleston goes in the category of the Non-Traditional Doctors.  Tennant and Smith are more traditional doctors.


I like Matt Smith much more then Eccleston.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on February 18, 2012, 02:12:11 AM
Just watched the first episode of Sherlock. A very impressive first episode to what I can already see to be a great series. I cannot wait for Series 2 to premiere in May on PBS. Anyone else watch this show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 18, 2012, 02:22:03 AM
Just watched the first episode of Sherlock. A very impressive first episode to what I can already see to be a great series. I cannot wait for Series 2 to premiere in May on PBS. Anyone else watch this show?

Yeah, several folks watch it on this site, including me.  I've already watched Season 2, and it's very good.  My only real complaint about the show is that 90 minutes is too long for 1 or 2 of these stories.  I'd rather have seasons longer than 3 episodes than have 3 episodes and have only 2 of them be entertaining.  I have issues with the show's Moriarty as well, but he definitely gets more fun to watch in Season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on February 18, 2012, 02:23:48 AM
Any legal way to watch Series 2 before it comes on PBS?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on February 18, 2012, 02:52:50 PM
Legal schmegal. BBC does make quite a lot of their shows available on their website. Perhaps check there?

Season 2 is, unbelievably, even better than the first. I do agree with Broodwars however, in that the show's Moriarty just doesn't do it for me. He doesn't quite come across as the criminal mastermind, working from the shadows. Actually, I think that it was Broodwars that so aptly compared him to the Joker.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 18, 2012, 03:08:31 PM
I don't want to spoil anything, but I think you may change your mind about him a bit once you've completely caught up with the show.

Yuuuuuuuuup.

QTFF
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on February 18, 2012, 08:36:35 PM
Legal schmegal. BBC does make quite a lot of their shows available on their website. Perhaps check there?

Season 2 is, unbelievably, even better than the first. I do agree with Broodwars however, in that the show's Moriarty just doesn't do it for me. He doesn't quite come across as the criminal mastermind, working from the shadows. Actually, I think that it was Broodwars that so aptly compared him to the Joker.


I think they only have Series 1 on their website, but I'm not sure. I'll check.


And wow, the first series sure ended on a great cliffhanger. The entire episodes was freaking amazing. Will Anderson (from the first episode) be in any other episodes? His dynamic with Holmes was pretty hilarious.


EDIT: Just checked BBC. They don't have the episodes on their website. I don't want to wait til May to watch them on BBC so I think I'll just find them online.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2012, 10:33:32 PM
I've been watching Workaholics all day while I tried to fix my phone (bricked it, but that a story for a different thread)

I'm up to ep10 right now and this show is pretty damn funny.
I've seen a few episodes before and enjoyed them, but now I'm watching it straight through the 1st season on Netflix. It's kinda like Always Sunny in an office environment instead of a bar. Actually I think that's the perfect description, Comedy Central's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 27, 2012, 01:22:49 AM
Latest episode of Spartacus: *Applause*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on February 27, 2012, 05:40:16 AM
I've been watching Workaholics all day while I tried to fix my phone (bricked it, but that a story for a different thread)

I'm up to ep10 right now and this show is pretty damn funny.
I've seen a few episodes before and enjoyed them, but now I'm watching it straight through the 1st season on Netflix. It's kinda like Always Sunny in an office environment instead of a bar. Actually I think that's the perfect description, Comedy Central's Always Sunny in Philadelphia.

Yeah, that's the way I've described it to my friends. The characters are a little more varied than in Always Sunny, which is nice too. The Mitchell Hurwitz cameo in Season 2 is awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on February 29, 2012, 10:25:40 AM
I don't want to spoil anything, but I think you may change your mind about him a bit once you've completely caught up with the show.

Yuuuuuuuuup.

QTFF




I just finished the last ep of season 4 a few minutes ago, it was fucking awesome. Gus Fring is probably my favourite TV character/villian in a long time. I don't think they really thought about an exit strategy once they did that though, looks like this is going to bite them in the ass later on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on February 29, 2012, 11:59:06 AM
I'm pretty sure they've got an exit strategy sussed out seeing as season 5 is the final season (albeit split into 2 mini-seasons).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on March 01, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Also I forgot to mention one of the most hilarious death scenes in the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI)
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 01, 2012, 09:42:11 PM
Also I forgot to mention one of the most hilarious death scenes in the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI)

It never was confirmed that that was it for him. What if we see him again?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on March 02, 2012, 01:46:19 PM
Also I forgot to mention one of the most hilarious death scenes in the show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwzDqN7foyI)

It never was confirmed that that was it for him. What if we see him again?

its funny and very Fargo-esque
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 06, 2012, 12:53:03 AM
Anyone who was a fan of Avatar (The Last Airbender, not Dances with Wolves in Space), Nick has set up the Facebook page with some info on the new series/new season...  Can't wait!

http://sot.ag/NTM0MDMw

(PS: I get points for a contest thingee if you click that link - and more if you register for updates.  Alternatively, you can just go to Facebook and search Avatar. :D)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 06, 2012, 08:37:55 AM
Alcatraz - This show is beginning to piss me off. All it does is stretch things out, including characters not saying things simply to not say anything. Hauser knows way more than he says (yet everyone knows that!) but doesnt bother sharing that information with any of the other characters. Madsen herself somehow is so timid and meek in response to Hauser over and over. To add to that Soto HURLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! is so unbelievably miscast because so far his character is used as a glorified info dump. Jorge Garcia's size pretty much limits any physical activity for the character on top of that.

The episode structure is based around getting the 63s as a week-to-week format but skipping the overall story arch of the series is boring me quickly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 06, 2012, 11:48:49 AM
Terra Nova has just been **** canned (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17269054). I am sure there is one person very pleased with this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 06, 2012, 01:25:58 PM
Ironically I still haven't actually watched an episode of Terra Nova.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 06, 2012, 06:30:41 PM
I liked that show. It was not as good as I hoped, but I enjoyed it and think season 2 could have been better. It's a shame it was on Fox though as its ratings are about equal to The Office (which is the highest rated show on NBC). A good example of how shows on NBC can have terrible ratings but be renewed because NBC doesn't have anything to replace them. I am sure the fact that Terra Nova was expensive to produce (IIRC, it had the most expensive pilot in history) didn't help.
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Post by: Halbred on March 06, 2012, 09:30:34 PM
I heard about this today and immediately threw a bitchin' party.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 07, 2012, 04:20:48 AM
Zack should go have a look-see at Primeval instead. Initially it uses real dinosaurs but they quickly abandon this and use fictional ones (but the production company have made several shows and documentaries which are accurate).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 07, 2012, 04:24:00 AM
Terra Nova has just been **** canned (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-17269054). I am sure there is one person very pleased with this.

And there was much rejoicing from me.  I already described in great detail with my impressions of the pilot and the first few episodes all my problems with this series.  And judging by the reviews I saw of the episodes that followed, this will be no great loss to the television wasteland.

I'd say that "maybe Fox will put a show in its place that doesn't suck", but it's Fox.  That's a near-total impossibility.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 12, 2012, 09:58:34 AM
I know this is like at least a year old, but I was watching Always Sunny in a strange 2 part episode which for some reason was intentional meandering along. It was strange since they usually spend an entire episode setting up one massive punchline, and they had spent two episodes being very random(More than usual). Then BAM! Lethal Weapon 5.

I have no words to express how funny it was. Not to mention they used to episodes to set it up. You can see it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjhV1DavSRM), but it has been cut from the episode it was in, so some of the editing doesn't make any sense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 24, 2012, 03:21:52 PM
Now that I've introduced my roommates to Community and Parks & Rec and we're all caught up with those, we've moved on to a new comedy, and it's Curb Your Enthusiasm. I'd never seen it before, but I'd always heard good things, and I have to say this show is fantastic. Larry David proves yet again that he is a master of comedy, and the cast around him is great. I'm only about halfway through the first season, and the one of us that's seen it before says it just gets better from here. I'm excited to see more of it!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2012, 03:27:01 PM
Wait till you meet the Blacks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 24, 2012, 09:43:00 PM
I feels so sorry for Larry. They piss me off so much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2012, 10:33:05 PM
Racist.






But seriously, Leon Black is the funniest character on the show hands down.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2012, 10:50:10 PM
Curb has been on my "maybe one day" list for a long time.

How many seasons is the show? maybe I'll add it to my sooner rather than later list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 24, 2012, 10:58:18 PM
I have 7 seasons; I think there may be 1 or 2 more I don't have. They're only 10 episode seasons, though, so you can burn through them pretty quick.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2012, 11:26:46 PM
I'm currently catching up on Vampire Diaries (can't believe I never got into this show from the beginning although s3 isn't the best one). I'm almost caught up to the most currently aired episode.

and then I have Breaking In & Happy Endings on standby, but that is far from a priority.
Fringe is in the wings somewhere, along with all the episodes of West Wing I've sworn to myself I was gonna watch. But I think I can maybe move Curb up to next on the marathon list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on March 25, 2012, 08:01:30 AM
There's 8 seasons of Curb. It's one of my all-time favourites. They're all great, but Season 7 is special because it's about as close as we're ever going to get to a Seinfeld reunion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on March 27, 2012, 02:14:17 PM
Gintama (http://www.anime-planet.com/anime/gintama)

Just watched the last ep. Pretty sad that the funniest anime I've seen in ages is finally ending, although This show has a penchant for trolling it's fans, they had a fake-out ending before the show was jumping the shark the last few months so I'm pretty sure the Author's thought so too. but 252 episodes is a good run.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 29, 2012, 04:44:51 AM
I finally watched the season (likely series?) finale of Alcatraz last night.

It took a long time - very nearly too long? - for it to find its feet. But it did in ep 13 where they threw out a bunch of interesting options for a potential season 2.

I have three problems though.

Sam Neill feels miscast as Hauser, or his character is deliberately stiff to the point of frustration.
Sarah Jones feels very miscast as Madsen, she feels so passive and nowhere nearly as badass as Hauser is.
Jorge Garcia feels incredibly miscast as Soto. His size basically limits his role to the "walk and talk" variety which is grating when you see how much the other two run around and shoot things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 29, 2012, 07:16:58 AM
Just finished SGU. What a touching last episode. It's a damn, damn shame it got killed by SG1/A fans. I just don't understand. I hated Enterprise, which was honestly a bad show, but I sure didn't go out of my way to try to kill it. A real case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. SGU is no Enterprise. If left alone, it could have been the greatest of the 3 SG series, maybe not quite reaching the astronomical highs of Babylon 5, but certainly give doctor Who a good whooping. While farewells have been said, it is still very, very open and unresolved. It struggled to find it's voice with a handful of terrible Lost type BS episodes and the very rough transition from season one to two, but when it finally had a fix, it became glorious.

Now for something different.

Homeland. A very clever show. If nothing else, the one thing that is always front and center to the show is the high level of paranoia it can induce on to the viewer. I never got into 24 due to it's highly unrealistic and absurd nature of the show that could be broken down to "Show me the bomb, WHERE IS IT!!! *Shoots wife*".

The show isn't about a bunch of characters, but a collection of people who met each other with differing agendas, histories, flaws, methods that make sense to their history. The casting has been phenomenal, and getting some primetime tits on screen doesn't hurt one bit. Claire Danes performance is well beyond what her history indicated she could do. Her instability is played with a very fine balancing act. While I can't personally appreciate Damian Lewis ass or sex face, it's an equal opportunity offender, so there is something for both sexes to enjoy.

I am only half way through, but I can't see them coming out with an ending that can satisfy the high expectations that it set itself. As much as the average viewer might want a happy ending, I much rather have a realistic ending that isn't neat, that is grey with all sorts of weird colours.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 05, 2012, 07:25:41 PM
Well, I've been putting this off long enough, so I'd better get on with it.  I've been watching a great deal of TV of late as I've been grinding in Tales of Graces F:

House M.D. - Well, I'm now caught up with the broadcast, and I have to say: this is possibly the most cowardly-written show I've ever seen.  The show is now in its 8th and final season, and it's essentially the same show it's been since episode 1.  Every time the writers threaten that a big event is coming that will change the show as we know it, the writers quickly undo that event to return things to the status quo as soon as possible.  There is no strength of conviction in this show's writing, and only the strength of House as a character keeps this show going (because none of the characters surrounding him are terribly interesting).  The show is merely average, which was very disappointing.

Iron Man: Armored Adventures - Now that it's back from mid-season hiatus, this is still seeming like a show in desperate need of something to kick the story into high gear.  The episodes have been consistently good, but they've lacked that certain "something" to make them great.  I think the main problem is how this show seems to have severe budget problems.  The human animation is weak, and the action scenes are merely "decent" without the energy or choreography of something like Avengers EMH or Young Justice.  Just about every new character introduced on the show seems to be a re-skin of one of the existing ones, and just about every villain introduced seems to be in a suit of armor (whether it makes sense or not, such as Magneto seemingly wearing armor and no cape).  It is nice to see some Marvel characters outside of the Iron Man universe, but it occurs too rarely.

Young Justice - Like Iron Man AA, the show is consistently good without being "great".  I think the main problem with this show is that it's unable to pay off on emotional moments.  The action is good and the storytelling is decent (when every episode isn't ending on an ominous "everything went according to plan" dialogue scene with the villains), but I still don't feel anything for these characters.  It is very nice, though, to see a mostly serialized story as well as characters that really didn't show up much (if at all) in previous DC animated series, like Sportsmaster; Captain Marvel; Zatanna; etc.

The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes - Season 2 has now finally begun, and I'm happy to say that the show is still great.  The animation is good with especially good timing, the writing is solid, the voice acting is consistently great, and The Hulk STILL has the best lines and moments in the series.  I never would have thought he'd be my favorite character on the show, but he is.

To be Continued...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 05, 2012, 07:54:16 PM
Ultimate Spider-Man - Alright, let me get this out of the way: I was a big fan of the previous Spectacular Spider-Man and the Ultimate Spider-Man comic series.  Despite its name and its production pedigree, this show deserves neither its name nor its place as the show that killed Spectacular Spider-Man because it's nothing like either of them.  This is Cartoon Network's Teen Titans re-skinned with Spider-Man and some assorted relatively-obscure Marvel heroes (Luke Cage, Iron Fist, etc.) and a small dash of elements from the Ultimate Spider-Man comics.

I loved Cartoon Network's Teen Titans series.  I loved its humor and the way it could easily transition between being very serious and extremely goofy.  But while I feel the comedy is really good and wacky in Ultimate Spider-Man (such as Parker's fondness for freezing time so he can turn to the audience and make a random aside or monologue), this just isn't the Spider-Man series I want.  I think this direction works better for me with Spider-Man than it did for Batman in The Brave & the Bold, but it just disappoints me that this is the end product.  How is the extremely flawed 90s Spidey series still the only one to last long enough to actually tell its stories?

But beyond the fact that the show is neither narrative-ly nor tone-ally similar to the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, I just get this constant feeling watching the show that it's talking down to its audience.  Young Justice and Iron Man AA feel like they're written for a wide audience, but Ultimate Spider-Man feels like it's written for young children.  It's a series that acts like it still wants to do some classic Spider-Man storytelling, but it doesn't yet feel like a series that can function when the focus isn't on comedy.  It's a series that I enjoy on some level, but it really could have been so much more.

Game of Thrones (Season 1) - Hey!  It's The Elder Scrolls IV: Skyrim - THE TV SHOW.   ;)   (seriously, the first thing that came to mind while watching the 1st episode was Skyrim).  I just started watching this last night against my better judgement, given how badly other widely-acclaimed series like House; Lost; and Battlestar have disappointed me.  I'm a couple of episodes in, though, and so far I really like the series.  The sets and costumes are amazingly detailed, the world feels very fleshed-out and intriguing (helped greatly by being based on an ongoing series of novels), the characters are interesting, and the fantasy elements and political intrigue are engaging.

I realize that this probably makes me seem a prude with some of you, though, but my main problem with the show is the nudity and sex.  I don't have a problem with nudity being in a show, but here it doesn't feel integrated with any kind of artistry or class, so when it shows up it just feels very distracting and makes me wonder whether it's there for any other reason than to scream "hey!  It's an HBO show!  Boobs!".  It just feels there to be there, and I could really do without it.  I like the show overall so far, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 05, 2012, 08:14:24 PM
I assume there is some bare male ass strutting around to balance things out. Something for the whole family!

Go watch Homeland if you want to see Morena Baccarin's goods.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 06, 2012, 03:43:24 PM
Just finished SGU. What a touching last episode. It's a damn, damn shame it got killed by SG1/A fans. I just don't understand. I hated Enterprise, which was honestly a bad show, but I sure didn't go out of my way to try to kill it. A real case of cutting off the nose to spite the face. SGU is no Enterprise. If left alone, it could have been the greatest of the 3 SG series, maybe not quite reaching the astronomical highs of Babylon 5, but certainly give doctor Who a good whooping. While farewells have been said, it is still very, very open and unresolved. It struggled to find it's voice with a handful of terrible Lost type BS episodes and the very rough transition from season one to two, but when it finally had a fix, it became glorious.


Twin Destinies - The episode with the two destinies caused by them trying to dial back to earth (which itself is the catalyst for human descendants out there, which is how Destiny was going to be saved in the S3 premiere!) is a brilliant episode and a great example of what SGU can do when its premise is mined properly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on April 22, 2012, 11:15:44 PM
Logan's Run - 'meh/10.

I *LOVE* the movie (one of these days, I need to read the books).  It's just perfect cheesy 70's sci-fi.

The TV show?  It's very hit-or-miss.  Mostly miss.  A couple of stand-out episodes (Man Out of Time is the best out of the series - pretty Twilight Zone-esque ending), pretty poor acting (although Donald Moffat's performance as REM is pretty awesome).

If you're a fan of sci-fi from the period or of the movie, you *might* consider watching the show... otherwise, you'll probably be like my wife, wondering if it's over after every episode.

PS: The Theme Song?  If there's an award for worst television theme of all time, then Logan's Run gets it twice.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 23, 2012, 12:58:18 AM
I suspect the Logan's Run opening is what a Romulan mind probe would feel like.

Finished a marathon of Star Trek DS9. Season one was pretty terrible overall. If it came out in today's environment, I doubt it would have survived to the end of the season. Season 2 started to equal TNG's average. From there the DS9 universe just keeps building up it's background, but the big arcs don't factor in to the show until the 4/5 season. All the character build up start paying off as they are tested again and again. Season 6 is DS9's magnum opus. I can't think of one bad episode in that season. Season 7 is one very long goodbye and brings the adorable Ezri Dax.

DS9's strengths was it's arcs when it finally got them and the break away from technobabble. Solutions to problems weren't of a technological nature, but of moral ones with lasting consequences. The Federation idealism is still there. but it's tempered by a measure of realism.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2012, 01:45:23 AM
I've described DS9 to people as like what you'd get if you had AMC do a Star Trek series today. It's not surprising at all that one of the main guys behind it would go on to make Battlestar Galactica.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2012, 05:41:05 AM
After one episode, Veep is already one of my favorite comedies on television. Julia Louis-Dreyfus has widened her already huge lead as the most successful post-Seinfeld career, and has a great cast around her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 23, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
You mean other than Seinfeld himself? Because he's still one of the highest paid comedians out there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2012, 09:50:52 AM
He's doing what he's always done, and a lot of the reason he brings in the money he does is the popularity of the show. He hasn't really branched out from that, while she has. If you define success in terms of money he wins, but creatively she's far and away the winner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on April 23, 2012, 11:55:30 AM
I wish Jason Alexander would do more :( I guess he's doing some voice work in the new Kingdom Hearts for 3DS, reprising his Hunchback character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 23, 2012, 04:56:16 PM
Fringe has evolved from being a stone average sci-fi procedural to probably one of the best sci-fi shows in years. It's probably second to DS9 at this point.

John Noble can act circles around EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on April 23, 2012, 05:09:55 PM
Interesting you say that, I'd heard other people say it's gone way downhill. I still haven't seen it at all, but I want to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on April 23, 2012, 06:19:01 PM
Interesting you say that, I'd heard other people say it's gone way downhill. I still haven't seen it at all, but I want to.


They don't know what they're talking about. The latest episode took a risk that not many shows these days take. Heck, not even LOST took the risks that Fringe has taken. I seriously hope that the show gets renewed so we can see where they take the new characters and storyline.


And Plugabugz is so right. John Noble is an amazing actor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on April 23, 2012, 06:36:34 PM
Jason Alexander needs to bring back Duckman. That was an amazing show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 23, 2012, 06:45:42 PM
Well, he couldn't bring it back since he was only a voice actor on the show He has no control or ownership of it. CBS owns it.

Maybe Alexander is afraid that if he starred in another show, it would bomb like his last two shows did (Bob Patterson and Listen Up).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 23, 2012, 10:35:16 PM
Seriously, though, go watch Veep. It's like a cross between The West Wing and Arrested Development.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 23, 2012, 10:40:35 PM
Comparing Fringe to LOST is an insult to Fringe. Fringe at least has the decency to make sense within it's own universe while LOST is a collection random ideas that a 8 year old would come up with. John Noble single handedly keeps the show going, he is insane. The man should ride a cow into work. Fringe now is better than it started, but it must at all cost not go into LOST territory, it must maintain that air of plausibility that makes the show.

Seinfeld is still a thing? As far as I am concerneed he might a well be dead as he has absolutely no presence outside of what I assume North America. Julia Louis-Dreyfus has had a continued presence in one show or another. I don't really watch any of her shows, but she is there and somewhat funny. Although it really helps that she is really bangable. I will give VEEP a shot if it shows up here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on April 23, 2012, 10:47:31 PM
I assume there is some bare male ass strutting around to balance things out. Something for the whole family!

Go watch Homeland if you want to see Morena Baccarin's goods.


Lake Bell too, if I'm not mistaken, or is that a different show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 23, 2012, 11:05:07 PM
Different show. Homeland doesn't show up on her IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1128572/).

Damian Lewis has some seriously funny sex faces in a first couple episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 24, 2012, 03:37:19 AM
The last episode "Letters of Transit" is very much an episode designed to throw forward into next season, completely ignoring if they get a season 5 or not. The only way it will make sense now is if it's tied into the current storyline, or whatever happens in episodes 20-22. I have hopes they do.

Fringe always goes for the long ball, but deals with it and moves on after a season. Only a few major things keep going on beyond that.

And can i say now, even though John Noble is an incredible actor the rest of the main cast are all equally as amazing. Jasika Nicole, who plays Asteroid, completely nails the alternate Austrid, her mannerisms and that stunted cadence.

It's an insult that Fringe and Lost premiered at the same time while Lost got all the hype and accolades.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on April 24, 2012, 07:05:13 AM
watched the first ep of VEEP it has potiental from what i can tell, kind of like parks and rec but upscaled to capitol hill


edit:


finished episode 100 of One piece. I really like how so far all of the stuff that happened in past episodes actually matter. I was worried that with a show this long (and i've only seen about 1/5th of the series) that they would pull a DBZ and add a shitton of filler and resets (oh the main bad guy is killed! alright let's add a new random bad guy that's even STRONGER and do the exact same song and dance all over again!)


but one thing that strikes me about the art style is how reminiscent it is of older styles of american animation like the old popeye cartoons, It gives the show a real unique look to it since it's old american animation filtered through an anime lense, the art style becomes the best of both worlds because of that imo. The Anime art style was originally inspired by those old cartoons and after a couple of decades of divergent evolution became what we know as anime today, so it's kind of a nice callback.


Speaking of art styles, after watching this show I get the sense that windwaker was heavilly inspired by One Piece, both in art and setting.


(http://i.imgur.com/AMC3c.jpg)


and


(http://i.imgur.com/BHQSR.jpg)




are pretty good examples of what i mean. Hell, Apis (the character above) is basically Girl link personality wise.
she even has a hat [size=78%]http://i.imgur.com/hcqYB.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/hcqYB.jpg)[/size]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 24, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
DBZ is easily one of the worse Anime out there that got popular. Besides the Vegeta saga, it pretty much falls off a cliff. A Shitton of filler is understating how much filler that show had. In the uncensored, uncut version I saw which had the full 45 minute episodes had even more filler. The cut western release on TV had half an episode at 20 so minutes and half of that was recap of the previous episode. If filler could be weaponized, DBZ would win any war.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 24, 2012, 11:52:01 PM
Wow, I could not disagree more. DBZ was a great anime. Sure there was some filler, but mainly it happened when they caught up to the manga and had to stall for time while Toriyama write more issues. It gets really good as it goes along.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 26, 2012, 11:53:49 PM
Tonite's episode of Community was great.

Law & Order parody that was very well done without losing what Community is in the process.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on April 26, 2012, 11:58:01 PM
Jason Alexander needs to bring back Duckman. That was an amazing show.

QFT
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on April 27, 2012, 02:05:26 PM
DBZ is easily one of the worse Anime out there that got popular.

I could not agree more. The entire "super-powered guys fighting each other" genre is about as bland as you can get. Unless you're a ten year-old boy, of course.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 27, 2012, 03:32:15 PM
DBZ is easily one of the worse Anime out there that got popular.

I could not agree more. The entire "super-powered guys fighting each other" genre is about as bland as you can get. Unless you're a ten year-old boy, of course.
Wow, I could not disagree more. DBZ was a great anime. Sure there was some filler, but mainly it happened when they caught up to the manga and had to stall for time while Toriyama write more issues. It gets really good as it goes along.
DBZ had its moments, but the Manga is much much better.  For the simple fact that fight that took multiple episodes in the series boil down to a couple of pages in the Manga and you still get the sense of scope and time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on April 27, 2012, 03:45:02 PM
I think it boiled down to the same reason as filler, they were making the show at the same time Toriyama was making the manga, so they had to stretch it out so they wouldn't catch up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 27, 2012, 03:47:26 PM
I think it boiled down to the same reason as filler, they were making the show at the same time Toriyama was making the manga, so they had to stretch it out so they wouldn't catch up.
I beleive its two fold.

1. Filler.
2. In print saying "1 year Later..." is just or more effective then say 5 pages of charging.  On TV your really need some real time to go into it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 27, 2012, 06:39:45 PM
If filler could be weaponized, DBZ would win any war.

Even against Naruto's 70+ straight episodes of filler?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on April 28, 2012, 12:23:36 AM
Didn't they remake DBZ with almost no filler?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2012, 12:30:48 AM
Didn't they remake DBZ with almost no filler?
Yes they did.

If filler could be weaponized, DBZ would win any war.

Even against Naruto's 70+ straight episodes of filler?

I'v never really watched Naruto, but I find it hard to imagine a show that could dethrone DBZ in the land of filler. We're talking 2-3 straight episodes to cover about 2 minutes of actual action, yet we were all hooked on the damn show like it was crack.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 28, 2012, 04:41:24 AM
This week's Community did the well-trodden Law & Order parody, but executed it very well. I would have loved it regardless of overall quality, though, after Professor Kane (Michael K. Williams) made a point by saying "A man must have a code."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 28, 2012, 05:19:51 AM
Fringe has been renewed!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 28, 2012, 09:31:07 AM
Didn't they remake DBZ with almost no filler?
Yes they did.

If filler could be weaponized, DBZ would win any war.

Even against Naruto's 70+ straight episodes of filler?

I'v never really watched Naruto, but I find it hard to imagine a show that could dethrone DBZ in the land of filler. We're talking 2-3 straight episodes to cover about 2 minutes of actual action, yet we were all hooked on the damn show like it was crack.
Naruto had quite a bit of filler and when it got back from Filler the series had become so stereotypical it was no longer worth watching.  Same goes for Bleach.  THen there is the whole Inuyasha thing.  They rushed through a good refillable plot and then had many seasons where they didn't know what to do.  I'm pretty sure what happened was the season they rushed the main plot along they were told would be there last but, they got renewed before it was to late to stop what was happening.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on April 29, 2012, 12:07:50 AM
I loved DBZ, but Morari was right on the money because I was also Ten. As far as filler less DBZ goes, there is Dragonball Kai, its not so much cutting out the filler as it is re-cutting the show to follow the Manga as far as i know. Of course you can allways just see Team Four Star's DBZ abridged (http://teamfourstar.com/page-episode-list) instead. You can thank me later.

Never watched Naruto or Bleach because i heard horror stories about the filler, I thought One Piece might be the same which is why i put off watching it until now but it's actually really good. I think i can count the filler episodes on one hand after 104 eps.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 29, 2012, 09:43:44 AM
I loved DBZ, but Morari was right on the money because I was also Ten. As far as filler less DBZ goes, there is Dragonball Kai, its not so much cutting out the filler as it is re-cutting the show to follow the Manga as far as i know. Of course you can allways just see Team Four Star's DBZ abridged (http://teamfourstar.com/page-episode-list) instead. You can thank me later.

Never watched Naruto or Bleach because i heard horror stories about the filler, I thought One Piece might be the same which is why i put off watching it until now but it's actually really good. I think i can count the filler episodes on one hand after 104 eps.
The super One-Piece fans can correct me on this but I think One-Piece puts more filler in as they go instead of just having a long arch all the sudden of filler.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 30, 2012, 12:59:32 AM
Didn't they remake DBZ with almost no filler?
Yes they did.

If filler could be weaponized, DBZ would win any war.

Even against Naruto's 70+ straight episodes of filler?

I'v never really watched Naruto, but I find it hard to imagine a show that could dethrone DBZ in the land of filler. We're talking 2-3 straight episodes to cover about 2 minutes of actual action, yet we were all hooked on the damn show like it was crack.

It was like 76 straight episodes of nonsense where the manga had a three year time jump.

Bleach was bad because the filler arcs were lengthy and pointless, sometimes even damaging to the continuity. There was even (at least) one filler arc that was smack dab in the middle of another arc that totally ruined the pace of the show. Then they get back tot he main story and have to remind the viewers of what was going on before everyone just kind of fell in a hole and got distracted on the way out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 20, 2012, 02:52:21 PM
Prison Break 9/10 I like the first 3 seasons, sort of jumps the shark in season 4, ill eventually get back to the show, but i watched it for several days straight.

The Riches 8.5/10 this was pretty good, too bad they took it off

United States of Tara 8.5/10 again good show, i started watching it when it first came on but dropped showtime to save money, but didnt see season 2 until i got netflix recently, again kinda dissapointed they took it off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on May 20, 2012, 03:37:22 PM
I thoughfint season 3 was meh, season 4 is better IMO. The whole Scylla arc and finding out how everything from the 4 seasons wrap together and how/why The Company did what they did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 20, 2012, 04:31:33 PM
oh well maybe i should watch season 4 haha, its just you know hey your girlfriend is dead! wait no shes not! Hey you freed this guy out of prison after extensive planning, he's now....dead! You were in prison....your free! I watched just the first episode of season 4 and thats when i decided to take a break. Too much deus ex machina going on.

I did start watching Breakout Kings which has Prison Break DNA, I watched the first episode, and then I found out T-Bag was on episode 3, so i skipped to that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 21, 2012, 01:23:25 AM
I never really started with Prison Break. It jumped the Shark at the end of season one as far as I was concerned. It was one of those concept shows that was never meant to be a ongoing series. Break out of prison, the series ends. From the bits and pieces I saw of the later seasons, it just got more stupid as th group would get themselves thrown into another prison, jail or confined space where they had to break into or out of for X reason what got to the point where it became a running joke.The story just grew out of control with no end in sight. Stupid.

Sherlock 11/10. Hot crumpets. I haven't seen the last episode of season 2 but damn this is good. not saying more until then.

Warehouse 13. Still continues to entertain, gutsy at times, still fairly predicable, characters a hair inconsistant. Has enough sexual tension to cut with a knife. It knows it's not a complicated show and it happily stays there. Oh hey it's Kate Mulgrew!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on May 21, 2012, 02:42:57 AM
Just saw the last episode of Sherlock Series 2. Ho-lee shyt. That was the best and most entertaining hour and a half of television I've had in a long time. Though I have to wonder, Why did the police stop trying to find Holmes? Why is Moriarty dead? And how the **** did Holmes not die? He fucking jumped off a building!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 22, 2012, 08:26:23 AM
Sanctuary has been cancelled. It never was amazing but it was a good series that maintained its premise well. I'm noticing since SGU started there has been increasingly cheaper shows taking priority (Eureka, Warehouse 13, Alphas) over the ones that broke tradition. I'm just glad that the season 4 finale actually works quite nicely as a series finale.

Person of Interest - A lot of people got hyped up at first over this (because its a JJ series), then the hype disappeared fairly quickly because it appears to be a basic procedural. At first it beds down into that procedural rut but then, very smoothly, starts expanding its list of recurring characters and players into the game. It's strange how this show simply became more interesting. It's intriguing use of post 9/11 paranoia really sets the tone with some of the characters. Lets hope S2 takes this and goes forward.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2012, 09:21:51 AM
Sanctuary has been cancelled. It never was amazing but it was a good series that maintained its premise well. I'm noticing since SGU started there has been increasingly cheaper shows taking priority (Eureka, Warehouse 13, Alphas) over the ones that broke tradition. I'm just glad that the season 4 finale actually works quite nicely as a series finale.
...
I have to disagree here.  I thought Sanctuary very quickly got off its premise.  It didn't take long before they were no longer finding and helping odd individuals.  Warehouse 13 on the other hand seems to always came back to the artifacts even though they have really toed the line on to much deviation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 22, 2012, 09:45:47 AM
Sanctuary started helping the individual and went, over time, to the larger group and race of people. Then the politics around what they do and the outside world.  In that respect it simply had a bigger scope.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 22, 2012, 03:28:28 PM
Anyone getting a bit fatigued with Game of Thrones? There are just so many arcs with so many characters, that each arc is lucky to get 10 minutes of progression out of each episode. It's like watching 7 different but similar shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on May 22, 2012, 08:03:39 PM
I haven't been watching this season, but that's exactly how the books are.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 22, 2012, 08:22:02 PM
I just started the first book yesterday, and yeah, each chapter jumps to a different character with a different story going on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 23, 2012, 02:10:53 PM
I never really started with Prison Break. It jumped the Shark at the end of season one as far as I was concerned. It was one of those concept shows that was never meant to be a ongoing series. Break out of prison, the series ends. From the bits and pieces I saw of the later seasons, it just got more stupid as th group would get themselves thrown into another prison, jail or confined space where they had to break into or out of for X reason what got to the point where it became a running joke.The story just grew out of control with no end in sight. Stupid.

Sherlock 11/10. Hot crumpets. I haven't seen the last episode of season 2 but damn this is good. not saying more until then.

Warehouse 13. Still continues to entertain, gutsy at times, still fairly predicable, characters a hair inconsistant. Has enough sexual tension to cut with a knife. It knows it's not a complicated show and it happily stays there. Oh hey it's Kate Mulgrew!

i wouldn't go as far as to say the show was over when they were out of prison, they still have to be on the run
season 1- breaking out of prison
season 2 - on the run, and in the search of the 5 million dollars Westmorland buried, so its like Rat Race/mad mad mad world meets escaped con movie, which makes it good in its own right
season 3- In Panama Prison- ok id say for some it had jumped the shark at this point because breaking out of prison sounds outlandish and stupid, but this was a very different kinda of prison and that made it interesting in its own right as well, the concept of this season had its own appeal.
season 4 - everyone is cleared of charges, people who were dead are now alive, now they're a task-force aiming to stop the secret evil shadow government agency, ok now its definitely jumped the shark.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 26, 2012, 08:15:32 AM
Warehouse 13 just went from "Entertaining" to hardcore. Season 3 end spoilerMotherfucker blew up the warehouse with an Artifact Nuke, it was pretty. The lovely H.G. Wells is dead and Fredric is a mummy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 27, 2012, 11:46:37 AM
Just saw the last episode of Sherlock Series 2. Ho-lee shyt. That was the best and most entertaining hour and a half of television I've had in a long time. Though I have to wonder, Why did the police stop trying to find Holmes? Why is Moriarty dead? And how the **** did Holmes not die? He fucking jumped off a building!

The clues are there. Mycroft no doubt had a hand at easing the police pressure to give Sherlock a fighting chance given his unwitting betrayal. It's possible that Moriarty isn't dead, Holmes never checked. Given the emotional stress he was under and Jim's acting ability it could have been done. The simpler solution is that Moriarty really is dead and he shot himself as a final **** you to Holmes having believed that he had finally cornered him.

Sherlock faked his own death like he faked the death of Irene. He made John his witness and made sure he stayed back so he couldn't witness the impact. Just as Watson rounds the corner a trailer is driving away with something that looks deflated, the bicyclist intentionally knocks Watson down so the switch can be completed and to throw Watson off from examining too closely. Molly assisted with the body and records. It was Holmes that choose where to met Moriarty. The method allows him to mangle the body. The "Final" conversation is a big magic show.

I really like how they lead the viewer around during the episode. The audience is always expecting something clever, so it's a massive reveal when Moriarty's opening gambit was as simple as daylight robbery, completely lacking the finesse of his earlier work.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 30, 2012, 02:12:56 AM
i just watched the pilot for Better off Ted - diamond in the rough!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 30, 2012, 10:29:46 AM
I watched one or two episodes of that, seemed like it was too clever for its own good, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 30, 2012, 10:30:32 AM
Just watched The Killing, S1E1. I'm intrigued.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 30, 2012, 11:40:45 AM
i just watched the pilot for Better off Ted - diamond in the rough!
Better Off Ted is great.  It sad that it ended, but it was clear it was time.  My wife and I really enjoyed that series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 30, 2012, 01:43:57 PM
Eastbound & Down Season One. Best series ever. If you don't watch this show, you need to. There are only like 25 episodes...it's hilarious.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dasmos on May 30, 2012, 09:44:35 PM
Season 1 is great. Season 2 fell off the wagon a bit, but still wasn't horrible. I have only watched 3 episodes from Season 3, but it already seems better than S2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on May 30, 2012, 09:55:57 PM
i just watched the pilot for Better off Ted - diamond in the rough!
Better Off Ted is great.  It sad that it ended, but it was clear it was time.  My wife and I really enjoyed that series.

Yeah, it's awesome. My wife and I just recently marathoned the whole show on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 01, 2012, 12:17:12 PM
Stated watching Grimm, up to episode 14. Why have I not been watching this show before? It's pretty cool, and I am so happy that Silas Weir Mitchell is a regular on it (I liked him as Haywire back on Prison Break).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 02, 2012, 04:39:15 AM
I watched a couple episodes of Grimm since the pilot, its a likable show, but it has a few issues. Ill just wait till its in consumable lump form rather than watching it week to week and/or wasting DVR space. I had the reverse reaction when I saw Haywire on Grimm and its because I watched Grimm first. "Oh his cell mates the guy from Grimm!"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2012, 05:03:13 AM
Grimm is not that bad, but it would be so much better if they didn't use a bunch of stupid names for everything. it's off putting, but the later/newer episodes have been much more interesting that the earlier ones.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on June 02, 2012, 02:45:11 PM
Perm, the first season is over I think. So you can watch it all together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 02, 2012, 08:24:28 PM
well if they ever get to a season 3 or if not the end of season 2
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 26, 2012, 10:01:23 PM
The Newsroom Episode 1 - Sorkin/10

I liked this show a lot, but it is unabashedly an Aaron Sorkin show. Big idealistic speeches, snappy, almost too-perfect dialogue, and of course walking and talking. If you didn't like The West Wing, you're not going to like this, but I'm a fan of his style and I thought it was his best work in a long time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 23, 2012, 01:24:51 AM
So I'm surprised that no one is talking about Breaking Bad.

Tonight's episode...my god. It's up there with some of the best movies I've ever seen. The way this season is going, this series might beat out The Wire for best television drama ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on July 23, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
So I'm surprised that no one is talking about Breaking Bad.

Tonight's episode...my god. It's up there with some of the best movies I've ever seen. The way this season is going, this series might beat out The Wire for best television drama ever.

There was an interview where (I thought) Vince Gilligan said he wanted the show to portray Walter White's descent from Mr. Chips to Scarface.  He's definitely fallen, but that cold open in the first episode this season just shows that he hasn't hit rock bottom yet, and that's scary.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 27, 2012, 09:19:43 AM
Yeah I'm enjoying it so far. The way he's manipulating Jesse is like whoa.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 27, 2012, 01:47:20 PM
Louie - first four episodes so far. The show is great...if you really like Louis C.K. then you should love this show, but you have to like ALL of his humor, or you'll find yourself bored at some points.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 28, 2012, 08:43:24 PM
My wife and I started that show, but it got to an episode pretty early where it was basically just Joan Rivers talking about showbusiness for a half hour. It wasn't funny. I didn't understand what the point was. The previous episodes were hit or miss. Overall, it seemed like an uneven show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 29, 2012, 05:13:59 PM
That's a fairly weird episode. That's in season 2 I think, did you not watch season 1? A lot of this show isn't "funny", but I'm totally fine with that. It's about more than that. The Afghanistan episodes were amazing, and a perfect example of what the show is trying to do. If you want to try it again at all, just skip up to those.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on July 31, 2012, 10:52:06 PM

Season 2? Huh, maybe we were watching it on Netflix or something.


I've heard that the show is very difficult to categorize. I'm okay with that TO A POINT, but I'm just not that patient.

Hmph. Well, we're back to watching Community. That show is streets ahead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 01, 2012, 01:21:53 AM
Louie is the type of show you just sit back and enjoy like a good book. Because that's what this is; an semi-autobiographical book, one episode at a time. It's not a laugh a minute, it's not even funny sometimes, but it is always endearing. There's something about watching this comedian on screen dealing with his daughters, pregnant sister, neighbors, hecklers, women in general, and other comedians that is mesmerizing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 20, 2012, 01:16:48 PM
What's the plan Walt? What's the plan?!?!

And what is the thing that causes all the dominoes to start falling against you?

Can't believe there are only two more episodes left and then one whole year until the final conclusion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 20, 2012, 03:42:44 PM
I thought last night was only episode 6? Are there only 8 episodes this season?

And I've been saying "What's the plan Walt!?"  all morning.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 20, 2012, 05:01:31 PM
They split the final season, which is 16 episodes, into two smaller chunks: one this year and one next year, each 8 episodes long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 20, 2012, 06:46:14 PM
They split the final season, which is 16 episodes, into two smaller chunks: one this year and one next year, each 8 episodes long.

I know. They tricked me. I heard that this was the final season so I decided to finally watch it all so since I heard it was very addictive and didn't want to be constantly for future seasons only to find out halfway through watching it would be divided into 2. Just great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 21, 2012, 01:55:21 AM
That episode had some great moments but overall it was pretty weak. There were a lot of out of character moments. Just things that the main characters would do that they normally are smart enough to avoid. "Even pros make mistakes" I guess.

As for Walt's plan, I think we all have an inclination of what is going to happen. Maybe not specifically but plot wise. It's probably going to go to **** for everyone else but Walt. Sorry Mike.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on August 21, 2012, 08:27:15 AM
I'm still catching up on Breaking Bad. I just finished season 3. Great show, but not as good as some people might suggest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2012, 03:54:34 PM
I'm still catching up on Breaking Bad. I just finished season 3. Great show, but not as good as some people might suggest.

You're banned from these forums.

Also, I haven't watched any of season 5 yet, because toward the end of last year I introduced my college roommates to the show and I promised them I wouldn't watch the new ones until we could watch them together. Splitting the season is really going to screw us up, though, because unless they want to stay and do grad school like I am they won't be there to watch the final episodes together. Maybe I should sabotage their grades so they have to stay one more term.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on August 21, 2012, 07:54:14 PM
I'm still catching up on Breaking Bad. I just finished season 3. Great show, but not as good as some people might suggest.

You're banned from these forums.


lol.
 
I'm still enjoying it, but I do think that people have overestimated how good it is. The show's portrayal of drug dealers, the street and the police is incredibly simplistic and uninteresting in my opinion (epecially when compared to the likes of The Wire and The Corner). I also think that some of the characters are just poorly written (The Moncada brothers for example). At this point (season 3) I've also completely lost the thread for what Walter's motives are. I love the ambiguity of the character but sometimes I get the sense that the writers have lost the character to the narrative.
 
It's among the better shows on TV right not, there's no doubt about that, but it's far from perfect.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2012, 08:39:45 PM
I see where you're coming from, and yeah, it doesn't do those things as well as The Wire, but I'd argue it's not trying to. The show's about Walt and his breakdown, and an accurate portrayal of the street level stuff isn't really important to that. In season 3, Walt's basically just fighting to stay afloat. He had gotten in over his head and probably didn't expect to still be alive at that point, so he's kind of grasping at straws. Not having watched any of season 5 yet I can't vouch for that, but I think season 4 does a good job of focusing things onto a goal, and Walt's got a pretty clear motive at that point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 21, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
3rd season of Community.

It's...so different than the previous seasons. Not sure what to think about that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 21, 2012, 09:51:10 PM
I don't think it's that different. It's still basically the same show as it's always been, at least as it was in season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2012, 02:46:48 AM
Did anybody watch Season 1 of Person of Interest? Anyone looking forward to S2?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2012, 03:50:05 PM
I saw season 1. It was alright.... I'm actually surprised it for a second season to be honest, but I mighty tune in if I don't have a full tv load at the time
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 24, 2012, 10:18:52 AM
I saw season 1. It was alright.... I'm actually surprised it for a second season to be honest, but I mighty tune in if I don't have a full tv load at the time

It surprisingly did very well in the ratings, so S2 was guaranteed at that point.  It started off very weak and formulaic but they started layering stuff in by the middle and paid off really nicely.

It's one of the few shows this season that caught my eye.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 24, 2012, 01:22:39 PM
I don't think it's that different. It's still basically the same show as it's always been, at least as it was in season 2.

I agree with this.  There are actually sort of parallels between Community and Arrested Development in terms of how they've progressed from somewhat normal comedies to absolutely absurd (hilarious) situations/episodes.
 
Both season 2 and 3 have a more heavy focus on concept episodes and storylines that deviate from the community college class focus Season 1 had.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 27, 2012, 01:17:49 AM
That episode had some great moments but overall it was pretty weak. There were a lot of out of character moments. Just things that the main characters would do that they normally are smart enough to avoid. "Even pros make mistakes" I guess.

As for Walt's plan, I think we all have an inclination of what is going to happen. Maybe not specifically but plot wise. It's probably going to go to **** for everyone else but Walt. Sorry Mike.

Damn, called it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 27, 2012, 03:02:05 PM
That episode had some great moments but overall it was pretty weak. There were a lot of out of character moments. Just things that the main characters would do that they normally are smart enough to avoid. "Even pros make mistakes" I guess.

As for Walt's plan, I think we all have an inclination of what is going to happen. Maybe not specifically but plot wise. It's probably going to go to **** for everyone else but Walt. Sorry Mike.

Damn, called it.

No more half measures.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 03, 2012, 11:41:16 PM
Well, as folks on my Twitter feed can attest, playing Transformers: Fall of Cybertron got me in the mood to watch Transformers stuff again, so I decided to give Transformers Prime - Season 1 another shot via its Season 1 Blu Ray.  Well, that first episode is still kind of iffy, but once I got past that...holy ****, how does this show EXIST?!  It's written by two of the main writers for the first two Transformers movies, and yet somehow it's...GOOD and well-written?  WTF? How does that happen?   :Q

I'm still early in the first season, but I'm floored by how much I'm enjoying this show so far (especially the dark, for Transformers, depths the show will go).  It still isn't reaching the heights that Beast Wars hit with its interesting and entertaining character dynamics, the squishy humans are still obnoxious and irritatingly non-squishy, and Bumblebee is modeled after his non-talking movie version.  But still...this show is a statistical impossibility, given how it came to be and who wrote it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 04, 2012, 10:46:50 PM
Isn't Prime on Netflix?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 04, 2012, 10:57:54 PM
Isn't Prime on Netflix?

I think the first season is, yes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 05, 2012, 12:23:18 AM
Isn't Prime on Netflix?

I think the first season is, yes.
It is.
Though they haven't put the second season up or Rescue Bots up.  Which Rescue Bots might be the oddest of the Transformers from what I've seen.  Ironically though it may in its own way be the most realistic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on September 05, 2012, 12:25:24 AM
community season 2

god i love the paintball episodes
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 05, 2012, 01:51:11 PM
So no one wants to talk about Breaking Bad?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 05, 2012, 02:45:02 PM
Good call. Last episode was great. It had two of the best montage sequences I've seen on television. And an awesome ending. Though it seems uncharacteristically stupid of Walt to leave that book in his house. I guess nobody's perfect though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 05, 2012, 02:50:05 PM
I'm still behind on Breaking Bad because I waited to watch the new season with my friends at school after introducing them to the show in the spring. We watched episode 5 last night; it's amazing that they literally robbed a train and I was able to suspend my disbelief and say "Yeah, that makes sense." The evolution of this series is astounding.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 05, 2012, 03:28:39 PM
Yeah, that was amazing. Jesse is pretty brilliant this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Glad0s on September 05, 2012, 07:16:53 PM
I saw season 1. It was alright.... I'm actually surprised it for a second season to be honest, but I mighty tune in if I don't have a full tv load at the time

It surprisingly did very well in the ratings, so S2 was guaranteed at that point.  It started off very weak and formulaic but they started layering stuff in by the middle and paid off really nicely.

It's one of the few shows this season that caught my eye.




I thought it was great. LOST quality? Hell no. But still, it's a fun crime show with a neat premise and semi-interesting execution, so I'll definitely be watching when it starts back up.


As for my own show, I recently started the second season of Sherlock. Maaaaaannnn, is it good. The first season had some fun mysteries and all, but now the show's really getting some great character development and interaction. If you have ANY interest in Sherlock Holmes or mystery TV shows, or whatever -- check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on September 05, 2012, 08:04:17 PM
Good call. Last episode was great. It had two of the best montage sequences I've seen on television. And an awesome ending. Though it seems uncharacteristically stupid of Walt to leave that book in his house. I guess nobody's perfect though.
completely agree, i don't understand why he would leave it there even though he was expecting guests, one of them being a detective -_-
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on September 08, 2012, 08:08:39 PM
Good call. Last episode was great. It had two of the best montage sequences I've seen on television. And an awesome ending. Though it seems uncharacteristically stupid of Walt to leave that book in his house. I guess nobody's perfect though.
completely agree, i don't understand why he would leave it there even though he was expecting guests, one of them being a detective -_-

Because he's too prideful? Too egotistical? He's the type of person who would  keep a gift given by someone he looked down upon as being inferior and whose death he ordered . Also, subconsciously part of him wants  recognition for his intelligence, his superiority, even if that means getting caught . At least, that has always been my understanding of his character.
 
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2012, 01:10:38 AM
Finally watched the last episode of Breaking Bad. Holy ****.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 10, 2012, 02:52:45 AM
Doctor Who - No spoilers, but that budget seems to have gone into space.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 10, 2012, 07:42:37 PM
Grimm (NBC) - Kind of like Van Helsing in the modern world. It's about a detective who discovers his ancestors had the power to see the hidden "evil beast" within people. He keeps his "secret identity" hidden from his colleagues and friends ( up until Season 2 ).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 10, 2012, 07:44:28 PM
I love the show and have been watching it since a few months ago (plowed through season 1). As for your spoiler, the only person he has told his secret to this season is Hank. No normal humans besides Hank knows yet..
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 10, 2012, 08:00:59 PM
Doctor Who - No spoilers, but that budget seems to have gone into space.
The new episodes are showing up here in about 72 Hours and i am looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 10, 2012, 08:10:31 PM
I love the show and have been watching it since a few months ago (plowed through season 1). As for your spoiler, the only person he has told his secret to this season is Hank. No normal humans besides Hank knows yet..


Juliette also found out about Nicks "secret" after she awoke from her coma, yet she doesn't remember Nick.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on September 10, 2012, 09:20:09 PM
Doctor Who - No spoilers, but that budget seems to have gone into space.
The new episodes are showing up here in about 72 Hours and i am looking forward to it.
This past Saturday's episode, Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, was brilliant. Some of the funniest dialog written in Doctor Who. But as much as I like Matt Smith as the Doctor, I'd love to see the chemistry on screen between David Tennant and Karen Gillan. My head would probably a'splode. :O
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 15, 2012, 07:27:53 AM
Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated. I'm a few episodes in and it's funny as hell, and has a lot of jokes that are obviously aimed at adults.


(http://i.imgur.com/ROU3e.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/V0Icy.png)


Lewis Black and Patrick Warburton voice a couple supporting characters, and there are some pretty awesome guests that come in. Bronies are obviously watching the wrong cartoon.


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on September 15, 2012, 12:28:55 PM
I want a subscription to Traps Illustrated!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 15, 2012, 05:37:00 PM
Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated. I'm a few episodes in and it's funny as hell, and has a lot of jokes that are obviously aimed at adults.


(http://i.imgur.com/ROU3e.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/V0Icy.png)


Lewis Black and Patrick Warburton voice a couple supporting characters, and there are some pretty awesome guests that come in. Bronies are obviously watching the wrong cartoon.




So is this anything like the horrible "What's New Scooby Doo"?


And has Cartoon Network renewed "The Looney Tunes Show" for a new season yet? It's been on hiatus for a while.


I'm guessing Frank Welker is still voicing Freddy and Scooby (he's been Freddy's voice for over 40 years, since the original "Scooby Doo Where Are You" cartoon). And I bet Matthew Lillard is voicing Shaggy again, after playing him in the live-action Scooby Doo movies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 15, 2012, 06:02:00 PM
I've been meaning to try that Scooby show. I keep hearing good things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: S-U-P-E-R on September 17, 2012, 02:55:37 AM
I just saw an episode with George Takei :faust:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on September 23, 2012, 03:46:20 PM
With Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones on break, and with Treme not quite here yet, I've started watching The Shield which I've heard good things about. While The Shield pales in comparison to the likes of The Wire and Treme in terms of portraying crime and law enforcement in an urban city, the individual cases and the over-arching storyline of police brutality and corruption are still pretty entertaining. It's an enjoyable show if you approach it with the appropriate expectations.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on September 23, 2012, 05:45:49 PM
Finally checked out Revolution this week. I was impressed. There's sword fighting and crossbows. SOLD.

But seriously, I really liked how the premise kicks off immediately, and you're thrown into this new world. I could see some really good programming coming out of this show. Hope the rest of the season turns out great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nintendokid1996 on September 26, 2012, 08:11:03 PM
The Walking Dead 10/10

The Simpsons 10/10

Teen Mom 0/10

Storage wars 7/10

Shipping wars 7/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 26, 2012, 08:28:57 PM
New girl 8/10
Revolution 6/10

Can't wait for arrow and hart of dixie too. Come back next month.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 27, 2012, 04:21:49 AM
The LA Complex - This show has received the lowest ratings for any major network show, yet its also pretty damned good. It ended its second season perfectly. If it doesn't come back it bowed out just right. Not many shows handle the ending very well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on September 27, 2012, 11:15:20 AM
Fringe S1E1. Not bad, not mindblowing, but I could see it getting cool.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2012, 11:26:38 AM
I've been introducing my roommates to Battlestar Galactica. I had almost forgotten how great the first two seasons were. I've tried to brace them for the inconsistency of the last two.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on September 27, 2012, 02:31:23 PM
I've tried to brace them for the inconsistency of the last two.

Don't remind me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 27, 2012, 02:45:42 PM
Fringe S1E1. Not bad, not mindblowing, but I could see it getting cool.

The first half of S1 is bone average. From there it just launches into amazing. Keep going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on September 27, 2012, 03:56:37 PM
I've been introducing my roommates to Battlestar Galactica. I had almost forgotten how great the first two seasons were. I've tried to brace them for the inconsistency of the last two.

I couldn't get into it, the whole first season was a big "meh" and did nothing to make me want to keep going and hope it would get better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on September 27, 2012, 04:37:09 PM
I've been introducing my roommates to Battlestar Galactica. I had almost forgotten how great the first two seasons were. I've tried to brace them for the inconsistency of the last two.

I couldn't get into it, the whole first season was a big "meh" and did nothing to make me want to keep going and hope it would get better.

I thought the first season was really cool. Gaius in particular I found to be fascinating. The story and characters ended up going in a direction I really didn't appreciate, though. It was a real shame.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 27, 2012, 04:38:23 PM
Modern Family S4E1

Entirely predictable, which is becoming a consistent problem on that show. I don't know if I'm going to stick with it this season. Season 3 was almost unbearably inconsistent in terms of writing, and I'm really not liking what they turned Claire into the last season. Also, am I the only one who hates Lily with the burning passion of a thousand suns?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Glad0s on September 27, 2012, 07:47:47 PM
Revolution, Episode 1: Eh...not bad. As far as JJ Abrams pilots go, it could be much better, but hey, I'll give it a shot. The main actress overacts WAAAAY too much at times, and there were several very predictable plot points. Also, the whole "one man takes down an entire army" thing was extremely cheesy, to me. I hate those kind of "overblown sword fight" things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2012, 08:23:22 PM
I've been introducing my roommates to Battlestar Galactica. I had almost forgotten how great the first two seasons were. I've tried to brace them for the inconsistency of the last two.

I couldn't get into it, the whole first season was a big "meh" and did nothing to make me want to keep going and hope it would get better.

Really? That show is one of the best I've ever seen, on the level of The Wire or Breaking Bad, through the first two seasons. After that it's a lot more inconsistent and takes some weird turns, but the beginning is amazing. Then again, you love The Big Bang Theory and can't stand Community, so this just supports the idea that you hate quality television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 27, 2012, 11:41:18 PM
Bones, S9(?)E2

I missed the season premier, so I'm not sure how Bones got back without...consequences.

Anyway, it was a fairly predictable episode. The most interesting thing about it (the rising tension between Booth and Bones) never amounted to anything important. I am HAPPY to say that Bones retained some of her baby weight in the best possible places.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 27, 2012, 11:54:08 PM
My girlfriend got me into Covert Affairs and Burn Notice.

Burn Notice - 8/10 - It has Bruce Campbell in it, so it's cool.

Covert Affairs - 7.5/10 - A spy drama about a girl who goes undercover to catch international criminals. Most of the time she is up against male suspects, whom she usually "seduces" to get valuable intel.

My girlfriend and I also started watching a new show called The New Normal. It's a comedy about a gay couple that has a surrogate mother carry their child. It's... interesting in a good way.


South Park, Season 16 ("Cartman Finds Love") - One of the best episodes of South Park in years. It is the highlight of a dull 15th season. Hopefully the second half of the season is improved. I honestly miss the gross-out, insane humor of the older seasons. Oh well, there's always Ren & Stimpy and Family Guy for that kind of stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BeautifulShy on September 28, 2012, 12:12:44 AM
Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated. I'm a few episodes in and it's funny as hell, and has a lot of jokes that are obviously aimed at adults.


(http://i.imgur.com/ROU3e.jpg)


(http://i.imgur.com/V0Icy.png)


Lewis Black and Patrick Warburton voice a couple supporting characters, and there are some pretty awesome guests that come in. Bronies are obviously watching the wrong cartoon.




The voice acting is pretty solid but the clip you gave didn't really sell it to me. In the down time between seasons since season 2 has been over since the end of April I have been watching Gravity Falls as per as suggestion of someone on DA and it is 11 episodes in and it is fun and kinda weird but it is the good kind of weird where you want to keep on watching it. Also it has an continuous arc so if you watch it from the beginning it references things from previous episodes so it is best to start at the start. Probably the episode that most people here could relate to is the 10th one and that is the gaming one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 28, 2012, 12:27:35 AM
I'm currently watching the newest episode of South Park, "Sarcastiball". Oh God this is a horrible episode. The premise is retarded, the plot goes nowhere, and the endless sarcastic jokes got lame after 2 minutes.

South Park has gotten really lame over the last few years. The gross-out humor has been toned down (the jokes are sometimes tamer than an episode of Family Guy, and that show has a lower rating of "TV-14"). So what warrants South Park's "TV-Mature" rating?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2012, 12:42:30 AM
Animal Practice:
Veterinarian Hospital show. Lead doctor thinks himself a genius and is quite full of himself. He is constantly trying to keep distance between himself and his crazy staff of fellow vets and assistants.... except for his right hand man, Dr. Rizzo, his pet monkey.

There are a couple of interesting characters so far, starting with Dr Rizzo (I want one), his poodle haired crazy assistant, the asian vet (Bobby Lee from Mad TV) and of course the lead doctor (brother in law from Weeds).

I've seen the first 2 episodes so far, and so far I really enjoy it. I could see my self sticking around for the rest of the first season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 28, 2012, 09:16:19 AM
The New Normal is interesting.  I'm surprised what there allowing them to get away with on Network TV.  They had a whole episode that focused on the election and they weren't really pulling any punches.

I have the distinct feeling that this show that its not going to be something like friends or any other long running series so its going for the burn quick route.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 28, 2012, 11:54:22 AM
Like both of those shows. Will both probably be cancelled this season though.

Got caught up on nikita this pass week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on September 28, 2012, 03:54:08 PM
If you want to watch bad TV, there's a new show on NBC called Go On with Matthew Perry. He plays a sports radio host who avoids his homelife because he can't cope with his deceased wife's absence.

The premise sounded interesting, but then my girlfriend and I started watching the show and just couldn't get into it. The humor is terrible, the acting is horrendous, and the whole show feels completely mismatched. Is it trying to be a comedy? Cause I wasn't laughing at all.


The only redeeming quality is the touching moment(s) when Matthew Perry goes home to realize his deceased wife isn't there. It's quite sad to see him suffer like that. You almost feel sorry for the guy, but then he acts like a complete asshole to his coworkers and friends.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 28, 2012, 07:00:13 PM
If you want to watch bad TV, there's a new show on NBC called Go On with Matthew Perry. He plays a sports radio host who avoids his homelife because he can't cope with his deceased wife's absence.

The premis sounded interesting, but then my girlfriend and I started watching the show and just couldn't get into it. The humor is terrible, the acting is horrendous, and the whole show feels completely mismatched. Is it trying to be a comedy? Cause I wasn't laughing at all.


The only redeeming quality is the touching moment(s) when Matthew Perry goes home to realize his deceased wife isn't there. It's quite sad to see him suffer like that. You almost feel sorry for the guy, but then he acts like a complete asshole to his coworkers and friends.

Matt Perry also called the "can't get a show to stick like friends" guy
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2012, 06:39:18 PM
The New Normal is interesting.  I'm surprised what there allowing them to get away with on Network TV.  They had a whole episode that focused on the election and they weren't really pulling any punches.

I have the distinct feeling that this show that its not going to be something like friends or any other long running series so its going for the burn quick route.

I checked this show out on your recommendation, and I really like this show now.
ep 4 wasn't really as bad as you had led me to believe, but wow, is the mom crude.
Every episode I find myself a little shocked at something that comes out of her mouth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on October 01, 2012, 01:15:46 PM
Weeds S7. 6/10. Of course it's still not as good as seasons 1-3 but it's still got occasional moments of great writing, mostly with Andy. There are still some scattered pointless subplots (the polyamorous relationship, Doug Wilson taking steroids) and the season ending felt vague and rushed, but the main plot and new setting were pretty interesting. I liked a lot of the stuff with Doug's new company and the SEC. But yeah, I'm ready for this show to be over, so I'm glad S8 is the last one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on October 01, 2012, 09:21:47 PM
The gross-out humor has been toned down (the jokes are sometimes tamer than an episode of Family Guy, and that show has a lower rating of "TV-14"). So what warrants South Park's "TV-Mature" rating?[/size]

How many grown men have to drink a child's cum for a show to be edgy?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 02, 2012, 03:22:53 AM
Fringe - Nothing makes TV seem completely normal like seeing Walter walking around outside with no pants/trousersd.

Person of Interest - This is a basically a 21st century take on Batman, where several people all play "parts of" Batman. The first half of season 1 starts off very dull and simple, then it started to lay the groundwork. By the end of S1 it was actually firing off at all cylinders and all the main points began to come into play.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 02, 2012, 11:35:37 AM
The New Normal is interesting.  I'm surprised what there allowing them to get away with on Network TV.  They had a whole episode that focused on the election and they weren't really pulling any punches.

I have the distinct feeling that this show that its not going to be something like friends or any other long running series so its going for the burn quick route.

I checked this show out on your recommendation, and I really like this show now.
ep 4 wasn't really as bad as you had led me to believe, but wow, is the mom crude.
Every episode I find myself a little shocked at something that comes out of her mouth.
I would recommend listening to the Fresh Air Interview of the Really Gay Fellow, name is escaping me, about the show.  He give big hints that they don't stop being creative with her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 06, 2012, 03:22:31 PM
peep show 9/10
theres no more episodes left to watch :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 10, 2012, 03:11:39 AM
Just watched my first episode of "How I Met Your Mother". NPH is the only reason to watch it.

That said, I don't think Ted is those kids father. There is an equally good chance that he could have been sneaking out of the house after drunkenly slaying a single mom stripper and getting caught by her kids who were playing on the couch. They, rightfully so, ask this random stranger "How do you know my mom?" And instead of just saying "Work" and bouncing, he hungoverly decides to tell them his entire life story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 10, 2012, 06:10:03 AM
peep show 9/10
theres no more episodes left to watch :(

apparently its been renewed for a season 9 and 10 though

and its on netflix
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on October 14, 2012, 04:43:52 PM
modern family s4 ep 2
eeyup. don't think i'll be watching this anymore.

japan inc (http://www.nfb.ca/film/japan_inc_lessons_for_north_america/)
funny watching documentaries about japan during the bubble economy, seems like most of the things they cite as a good example actually sound pretty horrible. Well the office layouts seem ok at least though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 14, 2012, 06:05:45 PM
i just watched that documentary, that may be how things run in toyota, but thats not how they run in other Japanese companies. That wasn't how things run in Hiroshi Yamauchi's Nintendo.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: CM30 on October 14, 2012, 09:01:29 PM
Last show I watched was Dragon's Den (equivalent to the US program Shark Tank I think).  It was pretty decent, I always like seeing what inventions and businesses people bring in, but I've watched so many episodes by now I can pretty much predict everything that'll happen merely by looking at the clock and seeing how much longer is left.


Last fictional show was Only Fools and Horses, can't say the episode I watched was my favourite one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 14, 2012, 09:55:38 PM
A few of the shows I've watched recently;

Arrow:
A new Green Arrow reboot, and this is not the Oliver from Smallville. Better than expected is what I can say at this point. Action was pretty good so far, and no one was pinned to the wall by their clothing. You get hit with an arrow to the chest, you are likely dead. Yes, people were getting killed. It was good enough that I will tune in next episode, and if the quality stays at worst, as decent at the pilot, then I will probably ride it out till the end of the season.
edit: and Harry Dresden from The Dresden Files in this.
edit2: I'm not real familiar with Green Arrow comic history, but apparently there is all kinds of namedrops, hints of future characters and even some throwbacks to Smallville in the first episode.
Speedy & Deathstoke mean anything to you?



Beauty and the Beast:
Lana from Smallville is back, and she is still lookin' pretty damn hot. This show has nothing to do with the fairytale of a peasant and her cursed prince.... well, not really.
A beautiful girl finds herself in trouble and is rescued by a beastly man that is a little more than human. They reveal the origin of his "beastly" condition, but have yet to dive into the details why she was a damsel in distress to begin with, but it altered her whole life trajectory starting with an understandable career change. I have my assumptions as to why she ended up in crosshairs, but I'll likely tune in for atleast a few more episodes to see how it pans out. So far it was decent.


666 Park Avenue:
An old hotel in New York being run by Supernatural. Deals being made and lives being changed, payment is of course expected. Locke from Lost stars as the "Gate Keeper" in this one, and making a deal with him is like making a deal with the devil. This looks like a nice place to live, but you'd be better off living somewhere else. An interesting watch so far, and something that fans of supernatural thrillers should at least give a chance.


Homeland:
This is probably, undeniably, the best new show of last year. There has not been a bad episode yet, and that continues into the 2nd season so far. s02e03 airs tonite, and I look forward to tuning in as soon as I can. This show is a must watch for anyone looking for good television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 14, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
Meet the Press - 8/10
I will not discuss the political aspect, since that would be a crime, but it was one of few occasions where someone gets the real Stephen Colbert to do an interview. It's online too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 14, 2012, 11:56:57 PM
Homeland:
This is probably, undeniably, the best new show of last year. There has not been a bad episode yet, and that continues into the 2nd season so far. s02e03 airs tonite, and I look forward to tuning in as soon as I can. This show is a must watch for anyone looking for good television.
First season had a plenty of boring ones. Overall the entire season was pretty underwhelming, when instead of spy thriller you get erotic melodrama about a crazy person. The main motivation is pretty BS-y, too.

The ending was really good, though.

For some reason i find that this and Shadow Line (BBC show) are really similar even if they don't match in genre, setting or anything really. The overall paranoia feel is similar and the tone even more high strung in Shadow Line, which is also i feel is an overall better show. Prepare for some of mind screwing twists at the end of every episode.

As to me, i started watching new TMNT show. Overall i like it, it's inoffensive and funny, i like rubbery animation and the intro is really kickass. Very last episode was eh, but the first three very pretty good.

Also Green Lantern: TAS. Last steampunk episode was really cliche'd but the ending was really, REALLY good. Also, "thanks" CN for not airing it.

The show is kinda all over the place: it starts usually with establishing main threat and then you get a few fillery Star Trek TOS-y episodes (which are very good in their own right). Then by episode 10-12 it got REALLY good with all plot lines coming to half season finale.

Overall the best airing superhero cartoon, too bad that with Avengers gone there is simply no competition.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 15, 2012, 06:14:37 PM
Last Resort - this show is kinda awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on October 15, 2012, 10:12:28 PM
Quote from: azeke
As to me, i started watching new TMNT show. Overall i like it, it's inoffensive and funny, i like rubbery animation and the intro is really kickass. Very last episode was eh, but the first three very pretty good.


Beast Boy (from Teen Titans) is Mikey? The voices sound so alike...


I hate the new character designs. Why are they so angular? It's like they took Bruce Timm's (Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS) character designs and mashed them with CG animation, which does not look good together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 17, 2012, 10:04:58 PM
They're a simplification of the 2007 CGI designs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 18, 2012, 12:01:10 AM
Like I said, I've been watching Battlestar Galactica again and introducing it to some friends of mine. We just finished season two, so it's pretty much all downhill from here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 18, 2012, 01:53:48 AM
Beast Boy (from Teen Titans) is Mikey? The voices sound so alike...
Yep. I really like his voice. Others are some Hollywood guys, one of them is American Pie guy and the other one is Samwise. Oh and April is Katara i think.

I hate the new character designs. Why are they so angular? It's like they took Bruce Timm's (Batman: TAS, Superman: TAS) character designs and mashed them with CG animation, which does not look good together.
I see nothing wrong with angularity. And it's not really Timm style. Check Green Lantern cartoon to see how Timm's style looks in CGI. Even GL is actually a very good show, but comparing them in animation and designs, TMNT looks much better.

And there is only so many styles you can draw turtles in. Even 2003 show's designs were pretty angular, being drawn and all.

Like I said, I've been watching Battlestar Galactica again and introducing it to some friends of mine. We just finished season two, so it's pretty much all downhill from here.
Yeah, at first i really believed that creators indeed have some plan for this show, but in later season it became pretty apparent they just make it as they go, which i hate.

After first two season, i think they only good moments were revelation of the five (?) but that was the last spot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 18, 2012, 02:18:32 AM
Well Vince Gilligan admitted that they're just making up Breaking Bad as they go along, and that may be the greatest show in television history, so it can work if you're good (or lucky) enough. And I'd argue there are more good moments than that in the later seasons, it's just a lot more inconsistent.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 18, 2012, 02:27:34 AM
Well Vince Gilligan admitted that they're just making up Breaking Bad as they go along
As far as i know they've got the outline for at least one flash forward ahead, and later as season goes, they fill in the details.

As long as there is at least some thought and some foreplanning involved, i'm fine. Ideally -- you're fixed in number of seasons and know exactly what you're doing in each of them and how you want your character to be like.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 18, 2012, 05:29:48 AM
As long as there is at least some thought and some foreplanning involved, i'm fine. Ideally -- you're fixed in number of seasons and know exactly what you're doing in each of them and how you want your character to be like.

If a show has a fixed number of seasons and fixed number of episodes in them (and knowing that from the show's launch!) nearly every show would simply be awesome. Think Torchwood: Children of Earth and Sherlock's 3 episode season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on October 27, 2012, 01:14:50 PM
The latest episode from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was fucking hilarious. It's a Halloween episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on October 27, 2012, 10:25:45 PM
The latest episode from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia was fucking hilarious. It's a Halloween episode.


Speaking of Danny DeVito, I really hope he makes a sequel to Matilda. I absolutely loved that movie.


DeVito is God. Or is that Pacino? :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 27, 2012, 11:00:56 PM
DeVito is God. Or is that Pacino? :)
Neither. This guy:
(http://i.imgur.com/kf5pY.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on October 27, 2012, 11:08:10 PM
Bruce Campbell?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on October 28, 2012, 02:25:03 AM
Humanity has declined (http://www.anime-planet.com/anime/humanity-has-declined) ep 3

So far it looks like this is comprised of a bunch of self contained story arcs, seems like its going for a "stupid with hidden not so hidden messages" approach in a sorta south park kind of way. So far it's pretty funny but because of it's self contained nature it'll probably be best to take this show slow instead of taking the weekend marathon approach. I also should add that the last half of episode 2 is the most epic thing ever XD

FYI: this is the show with the suicide bread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=37822.msg761076#msg761076) from the "best of anime" thread
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on October 29, 2012, 08:20:38 PM
Alright current television I am down to two shows, Big Bang Theory, and How I Met Your Mother. Big Bang Theory I can keep watching until the end of time, How I Met Your Mother, should have ended three seasons ago. I told myself when last season ended, that was it for me. I was getting into Doctor Who but that show runs on funky British time so the seasons is already over.

How do I rate it, let's see Big Bang is a good 9 out of ten right now, it keeps me laughing. It has had some bumps in the road but Sheldon continues to crack me up. How I met Your Mother, last season was a crappy 3 out of 10 and I can't keep going. Doctor Who has always been hit and miss, but it had a great ending despite a really sluggish start. I would say about 7 out of 10 as usual. Some seasons are better than others but for the most part the show remains fairly consistent.


As for what I really watch, my daily schedule is Everybody Loves Raymond, That 70's Show, Boy Meets World, and Roseanne DVD's. If not for those my TV would be collecting dust. Well until NBA seasons starts up again then it comes back to life.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2012, 11:00:27 PM
Mockingbird Lane

It'a remake of the old television show The Munsters.
All I can really say is that I enjoyed it pretty much from beginning to end.

It's a light hearted comedic monster family mash-up that I have already recommended to a co-worker that would probably appreciate the new take on the old show.




edit: And I just found out that it's by the same guy that did Pushing Daises (Fuller). I knew there was a familiar charm about this show, but I just couldn't put my finger on it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Lithium on November 04, 2012, 12:19:22 AM
Humanity has declined (http://www.anime-planet.com/anime/humanity-has-declined) ep 3

So far it looks like this is comprised of a bunch of self contained story arcs, seems like its going for a "stupid with hidden not so hidden messages" approach in a sorta south park kind of way. So far it's pretty funny but because of it's self contained nature it'll probably be best to take this show slow instead of taking the weekend marathon approach. I also should add that the last half of episode 2 is the most epic thing ever XD

FYI: this is the show with the suicide bread (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=37822.msg761076#msg761076) from the "best of anime" thread


So i finished the show, and my opinion is basically the same. At first the humour leans towards "wtf" humour, it tries to leave you flabbergasted, but slowly it's humour turns more macabre. It definitely is a show that is trying to be stupid on the surface but subversive on the inside. Not mind-blowingly, mind you, but its still worth mentioning as it sort of lets you have your cake and eat it too. All in all, i thought it was a great show.


4/5

Broodwars will be happy to know that the next anime I'm watching will be Escaflowne (at least I think he's the one thats been singing its praises) its been on my radar but i never really got around to it.


I was also watching  the west wing, im on season 2, episode 4 (i think, cant remember off the top of my head)
It's good but it has a pretty big "raw raw government" vibe going on which can come across as a bit cheesy at times. It's also fairly episodic with a glimmer of a plot in the background but all in all, its good enough that I'm still watching..


I've seen boardwalk empire episode 7 as well, the ending of the episode was pretty fucked up haha
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on November 04, 2012, 10:55:46 AM
666 Park Avenue (8/10)  - The hotel manager is basically the devil. People make deals with him, and he expects payment in return. If they don't keep their word, bad things happen. There's also a ghostly child hidden in the basement.

The Neighbors (7/10) - A [human] family moves to a community inhabited by green aliens disguised as fellow humans.

Once Upon a Time (10/10) - ABC's fairytale drama combines every single Disney-esque character into one show, and Rumplestiltskin is the main villain.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on November 04, 2012, 10:51:22 PM
Nick's TMNT cartoon (Episode...5?).

God, I love this show. It's a lot better than I thought it would be going in, but it's really grown on me, and the new theme song is BOSS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 08, 2012, 04:39:33 PM
Just finished watching arrow.  Now I'm no critic, nor am I terribly hard to please. However I am I the only one who feels absolutely nothing for the characters? 

The only 2 characters I feel a tiny little something for are Huntress and Laurel.  I honestly think that I feel more upset when that bird got killed than I would if any of the characters got bumped off.

Aside from that it's an OK show.  Mind you I'm a sucker for superhero awesomeness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2012, 08:55:42 PM
Just finished watching arrow.  Now I'm no critic, nor am I terribly hard to please. However I am I the only one who feels absolutely nothing for the characters? 

The only 2 characters I feel a tiny little something for are Huntress and Laurel.  I honestly think that I feel more upset when that bird got killed than I would if any of the characters got bumped off.

Aside from that it's an OK show.  Mind you I'm a sucker for superhero awesomeness.

Admit it, that little something you felt was n your pants, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 12, 2012, 04:30:09 AM
Actually, it wasn't.  Just happens to be a coincidence I guess.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on December 12, 2012, 01:03:49 PM
Just started watching Dexter and finished the first season. I really like the show, though it's a little hard to root for someone who is a serial killer with dozens of murder victims under his belt (even if they deserved to die).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 12, 2012, 01:29:57 PM
Finally starting Firefly. A few episodes in, I'm enjoying it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 12, 2012, 03:24:08 PM
Finally starting Firefly. A few episodes in, I'm enjoying it.

An excellent choice. Make sure you watch Serenity after you finish Firefly.

And if you want more Nathan Fillion awesomeness, have a look at Castle too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on December 12, 2012, 03:51:01 PM
Finally starting Firefly. A few episodes in, I'm enjoying it.

An excellent choice. Make sure you watch Serenity after you finish Firefly.

And if you want more Nathan Fillion awesomeness, have a look at Castle too.

Agreed. Firefly is incredible. Definitely watch Serenity, and if you still can't get enough the comics are quite good as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on December 12, 2012, 07:19:54 PM
I wish I could accidentally marry Christina Hendricks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on December 12, 2012, 07:33:14 PM
I wish she would take hold of my plow
 
See what I did there?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 12, 2012, 09:17:27 PM
I wish I could accidentally marry Christina Hendricks.

I'm with you. And I think my wife would understand.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 12, 2012, 10:23:06 PM
I haven't had the chance to have a read of the comics yet. I'm really interested in the Shepherd Story.

Oh what I would give for a new series.......
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on December 12, 2012, 10:48:59 PM
I wish I could accidentally marry Christina Hendricks.
Back then she was basically a completely different person.

She has developed a lot since then.

;D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 27, 2012, 10:56:21 AM
Ultimate Spider-man

This show is HIGHLY entertaining.
I caught a few episodes while at my girls mom's house for Xmas (kids were watching it), and now I want to catch up on the whole season before #2 starts next month.

I didn't catch the whole Batman: Brave and the Bold, but this is obviously Marvel's version of that formula (with a heavy influenced by Teen Titans though). One of the big differences being that Spider-man is highly sarcastic and therefore hilarious at times (sometimes you are lmao, other times you are smh). I've only seen the first 5-6, ending with The Hulk cameo (that was the only weak episode so far), and another 2 episodes from somewhere later in the season, but I haven't laughed at a cartoon like this for a long time.

It's heavy in jokes, cartoony slapstick sidebars & cameos
I think Stan Lee has an appearance in every episode I've seen so far.
It's aimed at the kids and the adults to watch together, so keep that in mind when checking it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on December 27, 2012, 05:17:34 PM
I wish she would take hold of my plow
 
See what I did there?

This post deserves more attention. Where are the Brown Coats?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on December 28, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
I wish she would take hold of my plow
 
See what I did there?

This post deserves more attention. Where are the Brown Coats?
True. I was disappointed that this post didn't get more appreciation also. I may have been on the losing side. Still not convinced that it was the wrong one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on December 28, 2012, 01:23:11 PM
Lilyhammer. American mafioso trades in info with FBI, and asks to be moved to Lillehammer... in Norway... because he watched the Olympics. Great show. Kind of makes me want to visit Norway after watching it. Such a calm life.


Edit: On another note, to those that are fans of the cartoon TV show "Adventure Time" (I have yet to see any full episode), the creators of that show have their own YouTube channel and they also have their own shows there. Some of their stuff is not exactly geared towards kids. I honestly like Bravest Warriors more than the other stuff they've created so far, but have a look:

http://www.youtube.com/user/CartoonHangover

http://www.youtube.com/user/BravestWarriors
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on January 02, 2013, 10:22:58 PM
Lilyhammer. American mafioso trades in info with FBI, and asks to be moved to Lillehammer... in Norway... because he watched the Olympics. Great show. Kind of makes me want to visit Norway after watching it. Such a calm life.


Edit: On another note, to those that are fans of the cartoon TV show "Adventure Time" (I have yet to see any full episode), the creators of that show have their own YouTube channel and they also have their own shows there. Some of their stuff is not exactly geared towards kids. I honestly like Bravest Warriors more than the other stuff they've created so far, but have a look:

http://www.youtube.com/user/CartoonHangover (http://www.youtube.com/user/CartoonHangover)

http://www.youtube.com/user/BravestWarriors (http://www.youtube.com/user/BravestWarriors)


Pendleton Ward? What else has he worked on besides Adventure Time? His character designs look very familiar... Almost reminiscent of "Codename: K.I.D.S Next Door".


As for other modern cartoonists, I've always loved John Kricfalusci (Ren & Stimpy), Craig McCracken (Powerpuff Girls, Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends), and Butch Hartman (The Fairly Oddparents). I'm still surprised that Fairly Oddparents is still showing new episodes, while Danny Phantom was cancelled a few years ago.


Speaking of cancelled cartoons, does anyone else miss the Jimmy Neutron cartoon?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 03, 2013, 10:40:15 AM
His most recent work is a web series called Bravest Warriors and the Cartoon Network show The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on January 03, 2013, 06:45:26 PM

His most recent work is a web series called Bravest Warriors and the Cartoon Network show The Marvelous Misadventures of Flapjack.


Pendleton Ward didn't create Flapjack.

Quote from: Wikipedia
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The show was created by cartoonist Thurop Van Orman (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thurop_Van_Orman) who has worked as a writer and storyboard artist on The Powerpuff Girls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Powerpuff_Girls), The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grim_Adventures_of_Billy_%26_Mandy), and Camp Lazlo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Lazlo).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 03, 2013, 06:54:12 PM
I never said he did. You asked what else he worked on. He was a writer and storyboard artist for the show though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 16, 2013, 10:08:57 PM
Anyone else here watch and like "Happy Endings?" Dude, that **** is hilarious.


I forbade my wife from watching "The Carrie Diaries" because "Sex & the City" is a crime against humanity. It actually worked. She's not going to watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2013, 10:44:08 PM
just let her watch it, with the horrible rating it had, it won't likely live past episode 5 anyway.


Then again... don't chance it. Better safe than sorry.


oh, and I think Happy Endings might not be having one... [on the fence] :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 17, 2013, 01:03:15 PM
It's on The CW, it doesn't have to do that well to be on the air (for example, 90210 has averaged a 0.8 rating for the last 2 seasons).

Apparently there was some minor uproar because they did not include shots of the World Trade Center even though the show is set in the 1980s and they had a scene right next to where the WTC was located.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 18, 2013, 04:01:32 AM
I'm convinced the only reason Community is still going at this point (like Fringe, this time a year ago) is not because of writing quality or ratings but purely to make it to 100 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 18, 2013, 10:34:56 AM
NBC does co-own the show (with Sony), so they do have a financial incentive to get it to syndication. But at this point I don't see how it can get another season when the ratings keep dropping every year for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 18, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
But if they are close to being able to Syndicate then it probably is a moot point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 18, 2013, 12:19:46 PM
It's in a really lousy time slot. Basically everything else they've put there, outside of the proven hit of 30 Rock, has done worse than Community. Community has a dedicated fan base, and it does better in terms of Hulu ratings and iTunes/DVD sales than most of their other shows. Unless they can come up with something that does better, which they haven't been able to do despite a lot of tries, it makes sense for them to keep the cult favorite, critical darling show around long enough to get the long-term syndication money.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 18, 2013, 12:37:21 PM
American Horror Story S1. Crazy and awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 18, 2013, 04:28:16 PM
I just finished re-watching all of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I just want to give a big **** you to every single one of you who didn't support this show enough for it to continue.

:(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 18, 2013, 09:55:45 PM
American Horror Story S1. Crazy and awesome.

Season 2 is crazy and weird.... and I'm not sure yet if either of those are meant in a good way or not.

There is a little too much going on in s2, not nearly as focused as s1 was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 21, 2013, 08:55:39 AM
Fringe's ending was touching yet perfectly done. I'm satisfied.

The white tulip in the final 10 seconds was the perfect way to end the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 21, 2013, 11:18:19 AM
I finished The Hard Times of RJ Berger this weekend. It was okay, had some decent jokes. It took most of the 1st season to get going. I feel like the writers/showrunners started to get more comfortable when they stopped trying so hard to be this hip show (self-aware because it's about an outcast) pandering to horny teenagers who can see half-naked chicks online (which they never stopped doing entirely, just focused on it less) and started thinking about how to make the characters more likable, interesting, and well-rounded. The show borrows a lot from far more interesting shows/movies like Freaks and Geeks (RJ's dream girl ends up being a less than ideal match. It's a shame that MTV cancelled the series when they did because it was starting to hit its stride and I thought season 3 had potential.

The show is definitely flawed. It's filled with cliches and some rather cheap attempts at humor (RJ has a ridiculously large penis). It exists as a teen show rather than a show about teens (I know they're movies, but think American Pie vs Ghost World). I think that's where it suffers the most. It sometimes tries to aspire for more yet refuses to commit to it. Despite giving some characters depth, others (namely RJ's best friend, Miles) remain woefully one-dimensional.  RJ trades one manic pixie dream girl for another manic pixie dream girl who tries so hard not to be one (but, unfortunately, never breaks the mold), meaning he never really learns anything, at least not during the show's run. Maybe that's a meta-concept where RJ has to reject the MPDG in order to learn anything of value, but I highly doubt the writers were that clever. I guess we'll never really know.

It won't win any awards for originality or anything in general and it will likely be forgotten in the annals of television history, but I actually didn't mind it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 22, 2013, 10:04:30 PM
I just finished re-watching all of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I just want to give a big **** you to every single one of you who didn't support this show enough for it to continue.

:(

But it's not canonical. So who cares?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 22, 2013, 10:42:16 PM
But it's not canonical. So who cares?
Terminator canon ended after T2: Director's Cut.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 23, 2013, 12:26:03 AM
The Walking Dead Season One - Best Show Ever/10

Kind of mad at myself for not starting this show a couple of years ago. The first season went by so quick and I started to watch the first episode of the second season instead, but the 3 minutes I watch were so great that I didn't want to start from that point. Best show ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 23, 2013, 05:08:36 AM
To everyone who hated the Lost finale, seriously, go watch the Fringe finale. It was a very rewarding end to the series and, unlike Lost, uses all of it's themes (family, sacrifice, redemption, how to become a better person) correctly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sundoulos on January 23, 2013, 08:48:51 AM
I just finished re-watching all of Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles.

I just want to give a big **** you to every single one of you who didn't support this show enough for it to continue.

:(

But it's not canonical. So who cares?

I liked TtSCC a lot and watched it every week.  The first season was awesome, and the second season started out that way...but I think that Josh Friedman and company made a lot of missteps around the middle of the season 2.  The plot started meandering, they spent more time talking and retreading the same plot points (the three-dot symbol), dragged out and Riley and Jesse story out way too long before the big reveal, and they especially spent too much time (seemingly) focused on Sarah losing her mind.  The ratings dropped precipitously on the back 10. 

They also had the misfortune of being broadcast on Fox, who doesn't have a history of being patient with sci-fi shows that aren't doing very well.  It's probably a show that would have benefited greatly from a shortened season, similar to what it had in it's first season.   Unfortunately, it got cancelled as soon as it started moving forward and getting interesting again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2013, 11:54:47 AM
Fox gave it a lot more time then you can expect a network to. The ratings literally dropped by half in the second season. I never watched the show, but it's hard to justify keeping the show going when the ratings dropped so sharply and it cost so much to make the show
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 23, 2013, 07:22:39 PM
Networks should just stop trying to do serialized shows. They basically never work out for them, the one real exception being Lost.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2013, 07:29:23 PM
By networks, do you mean over the air TV stations? Because The Walking Dead and Breaking Bad are both serialized.

Did you also forget that 24 was on the air for 9 years? That was serialized and did very well. There are other ones too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 23, 2013, 07:52:35 PM
Yes, by networks I mean the broadcast networks, as opposed to cable/satellite. For every one of theirs that succeeds there are probably 15 or 20 that bomb.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2013, 08:00:24 PM
Most of the current ones are episodic now. To be fair, many of the serialized shows they try are not good. And until recently, most cable shows only lasted as long as they did because they tolerate lower ratings.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 23, 2013, 09:21:09 PM
From here on out I expect every post to be about The Walking Dead. Stop watching other shows, because they're all terrible.


Except TRMS, The Daily Show, and The Colbert Report.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 23, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
The Walking Dead is only like the third best show on AMC, let alone all of television. It's good, but there are better shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on January 23, 2013, 09:34:46 PM
The books are better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 23, 2013, 09:39:52 PM
It wasn't the rating that really killed T:TSCC.  Had it been a regular show, the ratings (and DVD sales) likely would been enough to keep it going.

The problem was that FOX had to pay WB for the Terminator license... and WB got a huge cut of the sales from the DVDs.

In reality, the licensing agreement set the show up to fail from the beginning, unless it had crazy-high ratings and sales.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 23, 2013, 09:45:15 PM
I was gonna say that too (though Fox did co-produce the show), but had the show been successful then Fox would have kept it alive anyways. If the network owns the show, they have more incentive to keep it alive for DVD sales and potential money from selling it into syndication (whereas the network gets none of that if they don't own it). Sometimes the studio that owns a show will want to get it into syndication so bad that they will make deals (like how Sony practically let Fox have Til Death for free so it could stay on the air long enough to make it into syndication).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on January 23, 2013, 11:29:23 PM
The Walking Dead is only like the third best show on AMC, let alone all of television. It's good, but there are better shows.

Agreed. And it's quite the drop from Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 23, 2013, 11:38:32 PM
It's really come along in the last season or so, but nowhere close to Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 24, 2013, 01:12:42 AM
My wife and I really like(d) 'Til Death. It's a shame that the last two seasons will apparently never come out on DVD because...why?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on January 24, 2013, 01:45:00 AM
I would go so far as to say that the first two series of The Walking Dead are bad. I've really enjoyed the third one though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 24, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
I wouldn't go as far as bad, but they weren't great. Glad to see they've turned it around, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on January 24, 2013, 02:19:55 AM
I've been catching up on Game Of Thrones. I've read the first three books (trudging through the fourth) so none of the story stuff is much of a surprise. I have one episode left in season two, and I must say, I think season two is many orders of magnitude superior to season one. The acting is better, they're taking smart liberties with the source material (Arya being Tywin's cup bearer being chief among them) but mostly, the scale of the show feels so much bigger and cinematic. I dunno if their budget increased dramatically or not, but it sure feels like it. Season one felt small and cheap. Season two feels huge and expensive. Everything beyond The Wall feels like LAWRENCE OF ARABIA in the snow. Those segments at least match the LORD OF THE RINGS trilogy in terms of scale. Certainly blows the overly digital HOBBIT out of the water. The episode I just watched, the one entirely devoted to the battle of Blackwater, is the best episode of the series thus far. Glad to see them stepping up their game as time goes on. Hope this trend continues.

They're splitting the third and best book, Storm of Swords, into two seasons for the show. Unlike when they pulled these shenanigans for TWILIGHT, HARRY POTTER, and THE HOBBIT, I think this is a completely necessary move. There are way too many megatons in SoS to do it in ten episodes, especially in the second half. If you want to be watching this show, now's the time to catch up because **** is about to get cray.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on January 24, 2013, 02:22:28 AM
I had recorded Treme's third season but only got around to watching this week. I watched 8 episodes in one day! I haven't done that since David Simon's last show. Needless to say, I really enjoyed it. While some of the character arcs and storylines do feel recycled or redundant (I'm looking at you Sonny), for most characters the stakes have been seriously ramped up. Just as important though is the fact that the music continues to be outstanding. Although, I do feel that they might have done more with the Metal scenes, but that's more of a personal gripe. This show is highly recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on January 24, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
The episode I just watched, the one entirely devoted to the battle of Blackwater, is the best episode of the series thus far. Glad to see them stepping up their game as time goes on. Hope this trend continues.

That is the best chapter in the book (arguably the whole series of books) and I really did doubt that they would be able to pull it off on screen. I'm so glad that they were able to pull it off. That scene was incredible. The budget of this show must be orders of magnitude bigger than HBO's other programs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tasi12 on January 28, 2013, 07:19:02 PM
I think Jericho was hoping for a save the show internet campaign that kind of worked for Arrested Development.


True Blood: 9/10 (and climbing)

So far this show is great. The 1st few episodes of s1 might be a little slow, but you gotta get to know the characters and whats going on. Once you get past that, it's sex, blood and WTF!? s1 supposedly follows the book very closely, but s2 takes it's own liberties from what I've been reading. In this one Vampire reveal themselves to the Human world and hope to co-habitate peacefully, but as usual with there are alot of problems that get in the way of that. This show is currently the best show airing on any channel on TV at the moment. 3 episodes left in s2 so you better subscribe to HBO and get caught up.


Eureka: 8/10

One of my favorite shows and the only show I watch on the SyFy channel. Takes place in Eureka, CA, a place that seems to be a normal small town at first glance, but is really the front for the U.S.'s most tech savvy secret base. So many weird & crazy experiments going



on here that you never know what tomorrow today is gonna bring. Another fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously but is grounded in what appears to be actual theoretical scientific study.



Dexter: 9.5/10

A serial killing cop who hunts murderous criminals that seems to have escaped the law.... ironic right? But one of the best shows on television without debate.
A man with a moral code of conduct, A vigilante with a flare for unlawful justice. A forensic blood splatter analysis with a love & lust for blood. There is no one out there as flawed as Dexter who can do wha he does and still manage to hold it all together. All 3 seasons of this show is good & s4 is sounding like it could be one of the best ones yet. It's on Showtime so you better get you subscription before the new season starts.


Burn Notice: 8/10

The 3rd hit in the USA triple threat (Monk & Psych). Whats it like to be a US Spy that been burned(blacklisted)?    That's what Michael Westin is finding out in this action show from USA. It's kinda like MacGuyver meets Miami and evenco-stars Bruce Campbell as the side-kick goto guy Sam. Every episode has its fair share of action as Michael usually takes on clients(to help them solve problems) while he searches for who burned him and why. Very entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on January 28, 2013, 07:32:40 PM
I won't spoil it for you, but season 4 of Dexter makes him look a lot less honorable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 28, 2013, 08:00:40 PM
The Walking Dead Season Two - **** You Guys Season Two Is Great/10

I really liked the second season. It did seem that some episodes were dragged out, but I believe that was kind of the idea for when they get to the secret in the barn. You see it really drag on and on only to find out it was for nothing. I was kind of surprised by episode 12, I thought Shane would have stuck around a little bit longer and would go AWOL in the finale or something, which brings me to...

The Walking Dead Season Three Episode 1 & 2 - 10/10

The pacing has really picked up, and I'm glad they skipped a few months. I'm not even sure what to say, but this show is freaking great. Six more episodes to go until I'm caught up...should be there by Wednesday night if not tomorrow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2013, 08:43:02 PM
I think Jericho was hoping for a save the show internet campaign that kind of worked for Arrested Development.


True Blood: 9/10 (and climbing)

So far this show is great. The 1st few episodes of s1 might be a little slow, but you gotta get to know the characters and whats going on. Once you get past that, it's sex, blood and WTF!? s1 supposedly follows the book very closely, but s2 takes it's own liberties from what I've been reading. In this one Vampire reveal themselves to the Human world and hope to co-habitate peacefully, but as usual with there are alot of problems that get in the way of that. This show is currently the best show airing on any channel on TV at the moment. 3 episodes left in s2 so you better subscribe to HBO and get caught up.
Ummmmm..... no it's not, not even close to the best show. That title would go to Breaking Bad.
And you have at least 2 seasons to catch up on, do how can you claim it being the "current" best?

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Eureka: 8/10

One of my favorite shows and the only show I watch on the SyFy channel. Takes place in Eureka, CA, a place that seems to be a normal small town at first glance, but is really the front for the U.S.'s most tech savvy secret base. So many weird & crazy experiments going



on here that you never know what tomorrow today is gonna bring. Another fun show that doesn't take itself too seriously but is grounded in what appears to be actual theoretical scientific study.

One of my favorites too. Gonna miss it now that it is gone.



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Dexter: 9.5/10

A serial killing cop who hunts murderous criminals that seems to have escaped the law.... ironic right? But one of the best shows on television without debate.
A man with a moral code of conduct, A vigilante with a flare for unlawful justice. A forensic blood splatter analysis with a love & lust for blood. There is no one out there as flawed as Dexter who can do wha he does and still manage to hold it all together. All 3 seasons of this show is good & s4 is sounding like it could be one of the best ones yet. It's on Showtime so you better get you subscription before the new season starts.

If you haven't seen the season with John Lithgow, then you haven't seen the best that Dexter had to offer, and that no season since or before had been as good.


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Burn Notice: 8/10

The 3rd hit in the USA triple threat (Monk & Psych). Whats it like to be a US Spy that been burned(blacklisted)?    That's what Michael Westin is finding out in this action show from USA. It's kinda like MacGuyver meets Miami and evenco-stars Bruce Campbell as the side-kick goto guy Sam. Every episode has its fair share of action as Michael usually takes on clients(to help them solve problems) while he searches for who burned him and why. Very entertaining.

Another show I enjoy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 29, 2013, 10:22:23 PM
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Dexter: 9.5/10

A serial killing cop who hunts murderous criminals that seems to have escaped the law.... ironic right? But one of the best shows on television without debate.
A man with a moral code of conduct, A vigilante with a flare for unlawful justice. A forensic blood splatter analysis with a love & lust for blood. There is no one out there as flawed as Dexter who can do wha he does and still manage to hold it all together. All 3 seasons of this show is good & s4 is sounding like it could be one of the best ones yet. It's on Showtime so you better get you subscription before the new season starts.

If you haven't seen the season with John Lithgow, then you haven't seen the best that Dexter had to offer, and that no season since or before had been as good.

Truth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2013, 09:02:15 AM
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Dexter: 9.5/10

A serial killing cop who hunts murderous criminals that seems to have escaped the law.... ironic right? But one of the best shows on television without debate.
A man with a moral code of conduct, A vigilante with a flare for unlawful justice. A forensic blood splatter analysis with a love & lust for blood. There is no one out there as flawed as Dexter who can do wha he does and still manage to hold it all together. All 3 seasons of this show is good & s4 is sounding like it could be one of the best ones yet. It's on Showtime so you better get you subscription before the new season starts.

If you haven't seen the season with John Lithgow, then you haven't seen the best that Dexter had to offer, and that no season since or before had been as good.

Truth.
I have to say though the first 2 seasons were pretty good.  Then when Dexter had a son it very much became an Idiot Plot type of deal with the show.  They could have done so much differently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on January 30, 2013, 09:50:46 AM
I will never understand why so many people like True Blood, based on the 15 or so excruciating minutes I saw of it.

(Also, a lot of the ads on the side of this website really make me not want to come here... look at this gross nonsense: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590 (http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590))
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 30, 2013, 09:57:12 AM
I will never understand why so many people like True Blood, based on the 15 or so excruciating minutes I saw of it.

(Also, a lot of the ads on the side of this website really make me not want to come here... look at this gross nonsense: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590 (http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590))
Yeah, I keep saying we need better ads.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2013, 10:33:38 PM
i don't see any ads.... ever.

and I would have typed more about how True Blood was never the best thing airing on TV, but I was on my phone, and wordy post from a touch screen on the NWR forums, where the quick post is real finicky with my android, was not gonna happen.

True Blood is/was entertaining, especially in the earlier seasons (1/2) but now it's more of a habit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 31, 2013, 04:54:00 AM
Spartacus...

....Season 3..

Still the best softcore porno on tv.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 31, 2013, 05:31:57 AM
I will never understand why so many people like True Blood, based on the 15 or so excruciating minutes I saw of it.

(Also, a lot of the ads on the side of this website really make me not want to come here... look at this gross nonsense: http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590 (http://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/3ae61237-5586-4b4c-bdf2-1e5ae627da51/9916c4010b154278677597c73e0ee590))

I got stuck after the first episode - if the pilot doesn't tell me the point of the show (mysteries, aims, what happens??!), then why keep watching? Haven't watched since.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 02, 2013, 04:48:44 PM
Spartacus Season 3 Episode 2

People get SUPER MURDERED. You heard correctly. SUPER FUCKING MURDERED. Those poor Roman bastards.

At one point this guy chokes this dude then throws him off a sheer drop, but then SUPER MURDERS him with a Kirby axe spike. Was that really necessary? The dude died twice before he hit the ground which would have also killed him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 02, 2013, 06:54:34 PM
Just finished the first half of Walking Dead Season 3 (I watched 6 episodes yesterday!) - can't wait till it starts back up in a week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TrueNerd on February 10, 2013, 05:50:58 AM
I just marathoned House of Cards which has a number of things that would make it "high profile". One, it's Netflix's first foray into original programming. They spent a hundred million dollars for distribution rights to the first two seasons of this show. Two, it's executive produced by David Fincher and Kevin Spacey (who also stars) just to name a few. Yes, this is very much a show that wouldn't be out of place at all on HBO. 

Of course, none of that would matter if it wasn't good. And it is good. It's very good. If you've seen the West Wing (and if you haven't, do so immediately, it's also on Netflix), House of Cards is the exact opposite of that. Where West Wing restores your faith in America and politics and makes you want to hug Martin Sheen all the time, House of Cards assures you that all politicians are evil, power grabbing bastards who only fight for their own interests and have no care for the public. The show follows Kevin Spacey playing US Congressman Frank Underwood in his quest for political power, usually obtained through nefarious means. The show does an excellent job of weaving a rather complicated web and nothing is wasted, which I always appreciate. Season one does end on a cliffhanger with a couple large plot lines unresolved which is kind of frustrating, but it does set up for a bad ass second season. 

Also, the show is very much in contention for Most Handsome TV Show Ever. It looks REALLY good. Like, better than a lot of films. It's not the best show ever. It's not the best show going on right now. But it is very good. Definitely worth your time. Netflix was offering the pilot for free to non-subscribers, I dunno if they still are. Look into that.

And hey look! Rooney Mara's little sister!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 10, 2013, 09:59:36 AM
I watched the first three episodes of House of Cards yesterday.  I agree so far its good.  I don't think this is really giving me that Politicians are evil feel as much as its all a game to be played.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on February 10, 2013, 10:51:36 AM
Adventure Time with Jake and Finn

Damn this show weirds me out. It werids me out so much I can only watch one episode a day. There exists a world with logical absurdity and it can be viewed in Adventure Time. Comedy Gold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on February 10, 2013, 11:06:58 AM
I've been watching Downton Abbey, and I just finished the second series.

SO. MUCH. DRAMA.

I rate it: 11 marital affairs/10. It's good. Really good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 11, 2013, 10:34:13 PM
House of Cards.

This is going to completely change how we view entertainment. This show is really good AND it's not on a major Network or HBO. This is exactly what I wanted and hope shows follow suit (and apparently they are...new 'Arrested Develop' season coming out in May on Netflix). Release every episode and let me watch it at my own leisure.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on February 11, 2013, 10:47:33 PM
TMNT

Still great. I haven't seen a bad episode yet. This latest episode "wrapped up" Leonardo's arc with Karai, and it was also very good. I love the writing in this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 12, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
House of Cards.

This is going to completely change how we view entertainment. This show is really good AND it's not on a major Network or HBO. This is exactly what I wanted and hope shows follow suit (and apparently they are...new 'Arrested Develop' season coming out in May on Netflix). Release every episode and let me watch it at my own leisure.
I finished this.  I'm just going to say that while the show started strong.  They had Francis make a move in the 4th Episode that he wouldn't make by the established character and well it started going down hill from their.

First Season totally worth watching.  Second Season, unless they ditch this season, I'm probably going to watch when I'm bored and I'm not looking forward to because I already saw in the last few episodes the writers pretty much being burned out to cliches.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 14, 2013, 07:47:52 AM
They had Francis make a move in the 4th Episode that he wouldn't make by the established character and well it started going down hill from their.

I just finished this as well and thought it was gripping. Watching Frank do his thing was incredibly entertaining throughout the series, and I even got really caught up in Russo's arch which was tragic to say the least.
 
Remind me, what was the move you're referring to?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2013, 10:31:44 AM
They had Francis make a move in the 4th Episode that he wouldn't make by the established character and well it started going down hill from their.

I just finished this as well and thought it was gripping. Watching Frank do his thing was incredibly entertaining throughout the series, and I even got really caught up in Russo's arch which was tragic to say the least.
 
Remind me, what was the move you're referring to?
After lecturing Russo about this and that he turns around and Sleeps with the Reporter.  Which is fine if it was just a business move like they played it off to be that episode later on but, then a couple episode laters when she wants to stop that side of it, one she initiated, he can't really handle it and throws a hissy fit.
I'm sorry you can't be that good of a Manipulator for 30 years and make such a Rookie mistake.

Through I guess they had to find a way to make more of the cast more than background players.

Don't get me wrong their are some really good parts of this series and I can definitely identify with Early Francis but, well I just see them already on the slope to pull a Dexter.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 14, 2013, 10:55:16 AM
After lecturing Russo about this and that he turns around and Sleeps with the Reporter.  Which is fine if it was just a business move like they played it off to be that episode later on but, then a couple episode laters when she wants to stop that side of it, one she initiated, he can't really handle it and throws a hissy fit.
I'm sorry you can't be that good of a Manipulator for 30 years and make such a Rookie mistake.


Wow, I read those scenes in a completely different way.
 


I didn't get the sense that Frank was throwing a hissy fit. It was a blow to his ego perhaps, but it's all about power for Frank. When Zoe reaches her decision to kill that side of their relationship I think Frank was upset not because of the rebuke, but because that relationship was one of the few things in which he was still in control. Despite his well laid plans, Frank's influence and power was being eroded on all sides by his wife, Sandcorp, his colleagues on the hill and in the White House etc. His control over Zoe was one of the few things he had left that made him feel powerful.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2013, 10:58:06 AM
After lecturing Russo about this and that he turns around and Sleeps with the Reporter.  Which is fine if it was just a business move like they played it off to be that episode later on but, then a couple episode laters when she wants to stop that side of it, one she initiated, he can't really handle it and throws a hissy fit.
I'm sorry you can't be that good of a Manipulator for 30 years and make such a Rookie mistake.


Wow, I read those scenes in a completely different way.
 


I didn't get the sense that Frank was throwing a hissy fit. It was a blow to his ego perhaps, but it's all about power for Frank. When Zoe reaches her decision to kill that side of their relationship I think Frank was upset not because of the rebuke, but because that relationship was one of the few things in which he was still in control. Despite his well laid plans, Frank's influence and power was being eroded on all sides by his wife, Sandcorp, his colleagues on the hill and in the White House etc. His control over Zoe was one of the few things he had left that made him feel powerful.

But she was still a tool that he could use and how he handled it was not the professional planned disengagement you would expect from him.  The realization that as a tool she had now outlive her usefulness because the control was gone and to phase her out quitely.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 14, 2013, 11:20:29 AM
After lecturing Russo about this and that he turns around and Sleeps with the Reporter.  Which is fine if it was just a business move like they played it off to be that episode later on but, then a couple episode laters when she wants to stop that side of it, one she initiated, he can't really handle it and throws a hissy fit.
I'm sorry you can't be that good of a Manipulator for 30 years and make such a Rookie mistake.


Wow, I read those scenes in a completely different way.
 


I didn't get the sense that Frank was throwing a hissy fit. It was a blow to his ego perhaps, but it's all about power for Frank. When Zoe reaches her decision to kill that side of their relationship I think Frank was upset not because of the rebuke, but because that relationship was one of the few things in which he was still in control. Despite his well laid plans, Frank's influence and power was being eroded on all sides by his wife, Sandcorp, his colleagues on the hill and in the White House etc. His control over Zoe was one of the few things he had left that made him feel powerful.

But she was still a tool that he could use and how he handled it was not the professional planned disengagement you would expect from him.  The realization that as a tool she had now outlive her usefulness because the control was gone and to phase her out quitely.

Perhaps. The way I look at though is that he's a person who likes to think he's above emotional responses, a person who is too intelligent to be blindsighted be someone he considers inferior to himself, but he's still a person. A person with faults and hang-ups.
 
Spacey's asides to the audience need to be put in context. His monologues are all from his perspective. I don't think we should assume that he is as effective a political operator as he believes himself to be. In fact, the conclusion of the series would indicate that his machinations have  been complacent and rather lazy. The real rookie mistake was using Zoe to publish two storys that could be linked together.
 
It seems like we both agree that Frank made some pretty stupid mistakes. Where we differ perhaps is that I think that those flaws are not only within his character, but are actually inherent to why he's such an interesting character.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2013, 11:29:36 AM
After lecturing Russo about this and that he turns around and Sleeps with the Reporter.  Which is fine if it was just a business move like they played it off to be that episode later on but, then a couple episode laters when she wants to stop that side of it, one she initiated, he can't really handle it and throws a hissy fit.
I'm sorry you can't be that good of a Manipulator for 30 years and make such a Rookie mistake.


Wow, I read those scenes in a completely different way.
 


I didn't get the sense that Frank was throwing a hissy fit. It was a blow to his ego perhaps, but it's all about power for Frank. When Zoe reaches her decision to kill that side of their relationship I think Frank was upset not because of the rebuke, but because that relationship was one of the few things in which he was still in control. Despite his well laid plans, Frank's influence and power was being eroded on all sides by his wife, Sandcorp, his colleagues on the hill and in the White House etc. His control over Zoe was one of the few things he had left that made him feel powerful.

But she was still a tool that he could use and how he handled it was not the professional planned disengagement you would expect from him.  The realization that as a tool she had now outlive her usefulness because the control was gone and to phase her out quitely.

Perhaps. The way I look at though is that he's a person who likes to think he's above emotional responses, a person who is too intelligent to be blindsighted be someone he considers inferior to himself, but he's still a person. A person with faults and hang-ups.
 
Spacey's asides to the audience need to be put in context. His monologues are all from his perspective. I don't think we should assume that he is as effective a political operator as he believes himself to be. In fact, the conclusion of the series would indicate that his machinations have  been complacent and rather lazy. The real rookie mistake was using Zoe to publish two storys that could be linked together.
 
It seems like we both agree that Frank made some pretty stupid mistakes. Where we differ perhaps is that I think that those flaws are not only within his character, but are actually inherent to why he's such an interesting character.

I might agree with you if hadn't already obtained the position he already has.  It proves that he is skillful in playing the game.  Probably not as skillful as he believes himself to be but, skillful none the less.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 14, 2013, 11:32:39 AM

I might agree with you if hadn't already obtained the position he already has.  It proves that he is skillful in playing the game.  Probably not as skillful as he believes himself to be but, skillful none the less.

True. I'm looking forward to seeing where they take it from here. How cool would it be if the last series ended with Frank becoming president?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 14, 2013, 12:03:59 PM

I might agree with you if hadn't already obtained the position he already has.  It proves that he is skillful in playing the game.  Probably not as skillful as he believes himself to be but, skillful none the less.

True. I'm looking forward to seeing where they take it from here. How cool would it be if the last series ended with Frank becoming president?
They've already proven that the writers are uncapable of taking him there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 18, 2013, 04:02:42 PM
I watched the first 4 episodes of House of Cards last night, and honestly, it would have been more if I didn't have to go to work today.

This is nitty gritty low down and dirty politics at its finest.
It has a similar approach to the subject (politics) as House of Lies does to consulting, but this show is much more under handed in its delivery.

Can't wait to get home and knock a few more episodes.

That Netflix auto play almost kept me up all damn night.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 18, 2013, 04:50:59 PM
I watched the first 4 episodes of House of Cards last night, and honestly, it would have been more if I didn't have to go to work today.

This is nitty gritty low down and dirty politics at its finest.
It has a similar approach to the subject (politics) as House of Lies does to consulting, but this show is much more under handed in its delivery.

Can't wait to get home and knock a few more episodes.

That Netflix auto play almost kept me up all damn night.
Episode 4 I think is the high point for me but, the other episodes are good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 18, 2013, 05:27:17 PM
They've already proven that the writers are uncapable of taking him there.

Huh? What do you mean by that?

Anyway I totally disagree that Frank breaks character in the 4th episode. In fact it seems that's business as usual in his world, and is almost certainly not the first time he's been involved in such an arrangement. His wife certainly acts like it's not too surprising, anyway. When he "throws a hissy fit" later on, all it shows is that he's not a robot. He would be a far less interesting character if he made no mistakes and had no emotional responses to anything. They're still building his character by the 4th episode, and if you get upset by a new wrinkle they add to his personality at that point, it just looks like you desire a two-dimensional character rather than a three-dimensional one.


Also, I've got to say that Robin Wright's role is one of the best female characters I've seen on TV in a long time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 18, 2013, 08:01:06 PM
They've already proven that the writers are uncapable of taking him there.

Huh? What do you mean by that?

Anyway I totally disagree that Frank breaks character in the 4th episode. In fact it seems that's business as usual in his world, and is almost certainly not the first time he's been involved in such an arrangement. His wife certainly acts like it's not too surprising, anyway. When he "throws a hissy fit" later on, all it shows is that he's not a robot. He would be a far less interesting character if he made no mistakes and had no emotional responses to anything. They're still building his character by the 4th episode, and if you get upset by a new wrinkle they add to his personality at that point, it just looks like you desire a two-dimensional character rather than a three-dimensional one.


Also, I've got to say that Robin Wright's role is one of the best female characters I've seen on TV in a long time.
He already had plenty of dimension.  He already made mistakes.  My problem is that the moment they did that the show instantly went into Idiot Plot territory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 18, 2013, 08:03:36 PM
Everyone watch Hubris: Selling the Iraq War tonight on MSNBC, then we can all discuss that as the last show we watched and it won't count as political talk. Even if you don't want to talk about it, if you're an American you should watch it.
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Post by: Stogi on February 18, 2013, 08:05:57 PM
I don't know how you guys can pick out episodes from House of Cards. After completing it, it's a blur. Episode 4 does nothing to jog my memory of actual fake events.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 18, 2013, 08:53:42 PM
Everyone watch Hubris: Selling the Iraq War tonight on MSNBC, then we can all discuss that as the last show we watched and it won't count as political talk. Even if you don't want to talk about it, if you're an American you should watch it.

No, everyone, do not do this. This is a very bad idea and would result in very negative consequences.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 18, 2013, 09:10:55 PM
Well at least watch it and then we can talk in the chatroom someday.
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Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 01:48:54 AM
He already had plenty of dimension.  He already made mistakes.  My problem is that the moment they did that the show instantly went into Idiot Plot territory.

To be honest, I still don't completely understand what you find so egregious about that plot or where they took the character. It's like we watched different shows, lol.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 19, 2013, 09:03:57 AM
He already had plenty of dimension.  He already made mistakes.  My problem is that the moment they did that the show instantly went into Idiot Plot territory.

To be honest, I still don't completely understand what you find so egregious about that plot or where they took the character. It's like we watched different shows, lol.
I'm pretty sensitive to this type of stuff after getting pretty burned by Dexter.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 19, 2013, 09:13:43 AM
After finishing House of Cards there is one plot point I'm a little confused about:

Why did Frank get so angry at Claire for torpedoing the watershed bill? By the end of the season, it's clear that Frank wanted Peter Russo's campaign to fail, and the death of the watershed bill helped make that happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 19, 2013, 09:52:57 AM
After finishing House of Cards there is one plot point I'm a little confused about:

Why did Frank get so angry at Claire for torpedoing the watershed bill? By the end of the season, it's clear that Frank wanted Peter Russo's campaign to fail, and the death of the watershed bill helped make that happen.
It caused his plan to be implemented prematurely.  He wanted Russo to "naturally" spiral to irrelevancy after he kicked started him.  The Water Shed bill would have given the party the boost it needed to make this an easier victory for the VP.  Plus it would have given him some klout with Pennsylvania for HIS VP bid.  That and also Claire as a tool did not function how he wanted to.  Part of the reason he threw the Hissy fit with Zoe.  Coupled with he made promises and keeping the reputation of someone who can deliver is very powerful in politics.
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Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 10:02:24 AM
After finishing House of Cards there is one plot point I'm a little confused about:

Why did Frank get so angry at Claire for torpedoing the watershed bill? By the end of the season, it's clear that Frank wanted Peter Russo's campaign to fail, and the death of the watershed bill helped make that happen.

Frank did want Russo's campaign to ultimately fail, but he wanted the collapse of that campaign to be because of Russo's weakness rather than Frank's own miscalculation. Passing the watershed bill would have been another feather in Frank's cap, further proof that he would be a worthy nominee for vice-president. I think Frank's whole plan was to pick a candidate who Matthews did not deem good enough to be his replacement as governor, get matthews out there on the campaign trail to remind him of what he was missing, then leave it until the closing stages of the campaign to destroy Russo so that the only person capable of turning it around would be the former Governor himself. Basically, the plan was to not only convince Matthews that he wanted to be Governer again, but also to hold off on destroying Russo until such a late stage in the campaign that Matthews was the only one capable of fixing the problem (which fed into Matthews desire to feel like he was doing something productive).
 
The failure of the Watershed Bill was a set back as it made Frank as a Whip look incompetent, and therefore less likely to be nominated for VP, but clearly it didn't stop him from succeeding.
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Post by: Stogi on February 19, 2013, 10:09:05 AM
What I don't get about that situation is...

If the end game was always to have Peter Russo fail, then why didn't Frank and Claire come to an agreement before the bill failed to let it fail?
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Post by: gbuell on February 19, 2013, 10:11:05 AM
I buy that explanation, Pixies (which answers your question, Stogi.)
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Post by: Ceric on February 19, 2013, 10:48:44 AM
I buy that explanation, Pixies (which answers your question, Stogi.)
Fine then ;(
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Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 19, 2013, 11:03:02 AM
Fine then ;(

lol
 
Yeah, we basically said the same thing. The only difference is that I'm inefficient with my words.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on February 19, 2013, 11:56:22 AM
Oh sorry Ceric, I missed your post entirely!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on February 21, 2013, 08:37:30 PM
The Following -- 9/10


Kevin Bacon's first TV role; he plays a burned-out detective investigating a serial killer who recruits people to do his dirty work. The killer is obsessed with Edgar Allan Poe, and sees his killings as a somewhat "literal metaphor" that describes Poe's literary works. It's pretty much the equivalent of a cult.


Terrific acting, and the show is actually quite gruesome for broadcast TV (Fox). I'm surprised it's rated TV-14 (which is the equivalent of the film industry's PG-13).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 21, 2013, 08:44:18 PM
The Following -- 9/10

Kevin Bacon's first TV role

Except for the year he spent on the soap opera Guiding Light, and the 5 TV shows he guest starred on, and the 4 TV movies he was in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Pixelated Pixies on February 21, 2013, 08:47:42 PM
The Following -- 9/10

Kevin Bacon's first TV role

Except for the year he spent on the soap opera Guiding Light, and the 5 TV shows he guest starred on, and the 4 TV movies he was in.

Yeah...you know...apart from that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: tendoboy1984 on February 21, 2013, 08:59:49 PM
The Following -- 9/10

Kevin Bacon's first TV role

Except for the year he spent on the soap opera Guiding Light, and the 5 TV shows he guest starred on, and the 4 TV movies he was in.

Yeah...you know...apart from that.


I mean this is his first lead role on TV. Soap operas don't count because... soap operas.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on February 21, 2013, 09:02:16 PM
Even if you don't like soap operas (though they do count), he was the star in at least one of the TV movies (which means he had the lead role).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 22, 2013, 09:37:24 AM
Person of Interest - this show is all kinds of amazing now. When it focusses on its universe and its characters (like last night - introducing a new recurring character who is also tied to Root and the machine on the other side of Reese/Finch).

The show is thick, complex, not tainted by JJ-styled writing of MYSTERIES BUT WE WON'T TELL YOU YET!, and yet captures insane ratings numbers (three times what Community gets, and EIGHT times what Fringe did) by simply looking like a bog standard police procedural on the surface. Highly recommended.
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Post by: Sundoulos on February 22, 2013, 12:09:13 PM
I'm also a fan of Person of Interest.  I know people around here seem to be generally down on CBS shows, but this one is really worth checking out.   The show really hit it's stride around the middle of the first season, when they introduced Elias in the first season. 

I was already a fan of of Jim Caviezel and Michael Emmerson, so I was sold even before the show began.   Now that they've had time to build a strong rogue's gallery and supporting cast (Fusco is awesome!), it's become my favorite show on television at the moment. 

As an aside, I really enjoyed Mr. Finch's stint as a substitute teacher and his lecture on the importance of Pi from an episode earlier in January.  It fits in perfectly with the mythology of the show's premise: 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2013, 09:05:31 PM
The Following -- 9/10

Kevin Bacon's first TV role

Except for the year he spent on the soap opera Guiding Light, and the 5 TV shows he guest starred on, and the 4 TV movies he was in.

Yeah...you know...apart from that.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/2ppe8nr.jpg)

Best laugh I've had all day. +1 to you both.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on February 26, 2013, 01:32:13 PM
Watched all 12 episodes of the first season and first 2 episodes of season 2 of Suits. I love the show, Harvey is such a great character. Rick Hoffman does a really good job in the role of Louis Litt, really making you dislike him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 02, 2013, 09:08:02 PM
Spartacus

And the super murder continues. At one point this guy jumps off a roughly 25 foot drop to stab someone in the face.

As cheesy, overly bloody, and unnecessarily sexual this show is, I was surprised by the mastery of the camera work. There is a scene where three different main characters are fighting and instead of cutting to each, the camera focused on the foreground, middle, and background to highlight them all. Pretty damn impressive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 03, 2013, 11:54:14 PM
Walking Dead

Every episode is the best show ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2013, 12:20:22 AM
I have a question.

I was watching Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes
and they discovered Capt. America, who I believe they said disappeared in 1943, which was 70 years ago.

then they showed a pic of Tony Stark's Dad with Capt America, who looked.... I would guess mid to late 30's at the time. This picture would have had to be taken prior to 1943, since that is when Capt. A. was last seen.

Now assuming Stark's dad had him sometime before he was 50.... that's a generous 10 or so years after that pic. How is Tony Stark now only in his mid to late 30's come 2013?

How does the math work on that? or did it just make more sense when they originally made this story up about 30yrs ago?


Did Tony Stark stumble upon the Lazarus Pit?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 04, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
I'm also a fan of Person of Interest.  I know people around here seem to be generally down on CBS shows, but this one is really worth checking out.   The show really hit it's stride around the middle of the first season, when they introduced Elias in the first season. 

I was already a fan of of Jim Caviezel and Michael Emmerson, so I was sold even before the show began.   Now that they've had time to build a strong rogue's gallery and supporting cast (Fusco is awesome!), it's become my favorite show on television at the moment. 

As an aside, I really enjoyed Mr. Finch's stint as a substitute teacher and his lecture on the importance of Pi from an episode earlier in January.  It fits in perfectly with the mythology of the show's premise: 

Agreed. Michael Emerson's line 2 weeks ago of "i'm not one to play games" is probably the most mismatched line he could ever say in this show.

Also, have you noticed since Stanton uploaded the virus the machine has been glitching occasionally?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 04, 2013, 09:59:38 AM
I have a question.

I was watching Avengers: Earths Mightiest Heroes
and they discovered Capt. America, who I believe they said disappeared in 1943, which was 70 years ago.

then they showed a pic of Tony Stark's Dad with Capt America, who looked.... I would guess mid to late 30's at the time. This picture would have had to be taken prior to 1943, since that is when Capt. A. was last seen.

Now assuming Stark's dad had him sometime before he was 50.... that's a generous 10 or so years after that pic. How is Tony Stark now only in his mid to late 30's come 2013?

How does the math work on that? or did it just make more sense when they originally made this story up about 30yrs ago?


Did Tony Stark stumble upon the Lazarus Pit?

It's one of things that made more sense when the books were actually written. It'd be hard for them to update that aspect since the "present" is constantly shifting while WWII happened once over a particular period. And while they can bump Tony Stark's origin story to modern day conflicts, it doesn't work with Captain America.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2013, 11:09:15 AM
They could make it his grandpa and not his dad.
That would make more sense for those paying close enough attention to do the math.

But it's a minor detail.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 04, 2013, 11:31:23 AM
Actually the ironic part of the whole thing is that.  Tony Starks Dad having anything to do with Captain America is relatively new Mythos wise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: bustin98 on March 04, 2013, 05:26:33 PM
So, a restaurant from my town is the star of this week's Kitchen Nightmares. I haven't watched it, but I saw the trailer on Hulu Plus. I hate reality shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 04, 2013, 05:32:16 PM
Kitchen Nightmares is a really good show, as is Hells Kitchen and MasterChef (the other shows starring Gordon Ramsay). On Nightmares, you have to wonder how the owner didnt fix some of the obvious problems (like one episode where there were literally cockroaches crawling around in the kitchen).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 04, 2013, 05:34:04 PM
Ramsay's Kitchen Nightmares is/was better than the US version. It was made for people that own or work in restaurants. The US version is made for people that eat in restaurants.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on March 04, 2013, 05:38:15 PM
As a person who eats at restaurants, it's more interesting and worthwhile to have it made from the consumers POV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 04, 2013, 09:17:33 PM

Torchwood, Children of Earth
the inconsistent Doctor Who spinoff hit a HUGE stride in its third season and not only finally fulfilled what it set out to do but also created a well paced masterpiece
no asking questions just watch, its that great
do your self a favor, just skip the first two seasons and press play
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 05, 2013, 03:38:33 PM
I don't know I was hoping Torchwood would be more like one of the old UPN shows where they did what Torchwoods does but it was just a better show.  Came on after Enterprise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 05, 2013, 04:23:24 PM
I don't know I was hoping Torchwood would be more like one of the old UPN shows where they did what Torchwoods does but it was just a better show.  Came on after Enterprise.
yeah i understand where your coming (the torchwood series has been a very mixed bag (mostly for the worse)) but Children of Earth got everything right and blended it all into near perfection
although i hear miracle day messed it up again
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 07, 2013, 07:37:36 AM
I don't know I was hoping Torchwood would be more like one of the old UPN shows where they did what Torchwoods does but it was just a better show.  Came on after Enterprise.
i am still suprised that this came out of torchwood, i can't blame you
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 07, 2013, 09:06:08 AM
Miracle day was...
Well really not that good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 07, 2013, 01:38:29 PM
yeah ill take your word for it. im not going to find that out for myself
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on March 07, 2013, 07:05:40 PM
Children of the Earth is a masterpiece. The first two seasons were inconsistent, but largely enjoyable. I wouldn't recommend anyone watch Miracle Day though. It started with a wonderful sense of world building, but meandered for far too long before finally throwing a nonsense ending out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 07, 2013, 07:55:23 PM
i think children of earth was the miracle of the bunch. also apparently frobisher is a descendant of some guy from DW episode fires of pompeii,
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 09, 2013, 04:10:30 PM
Avengers: EMH

Does the Wasp ever get tired of being useless and a distraction to those that are useful in about 99% of all situations?

pew pew pew.gif
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 11, 2013, 10:40:34 AM
Avengers: EMH

Does the Wasp ever get tired of being useless and a distraction to those that are useful in about 99% of all situations?

pew pew pew.gif
No.  I do wonder why she just doesn't go large more often.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 22, 2013, 06:59:33 PM
Leave it to the Americans to screw up a fool proof show. American Ninja warrior was fairly true to it's Japanese counterpart in the first season with a shortcut taken in the third stage boiling down to beach rescue drills.

But second season is just shameful. Instead of a third stage, it degenerates into an awful reality show, eliminations and manufactured drama puke fest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Glad0s on March 22, 2013, 10:54:52 PM
Bates Motel: It's like Twin Peaks, but with a disgusting rape scene and a tie-in to one of the best movies ever. GO FORTH AND WATCH IT. Some parts are a bit iffy (one flirting scene in particular was groan-inducing, though it did feature Radiohead's "The Tourist" playing in the background, which was epic), but generally -- it's really damn good. Far more effective than The Following, simply because the scare-scenes are spaced cleverly throughout, as opposed to The Following's pattern of "BLOOD GORE EYEBALL-REMOVAL LOOK AT WHAT WE CAN GET AWAY WITH ON PRIMETIME TV WOOOO STABBING SHOOTING KNIFE BLOOD GORE SCARY OOOOO" which gets tiring and somewhat unintentionally hilarious after awhile. This is different -- I was actually rather disturbed by some of what went on in the pilot, which surprised me greatly. Hopefully they can keep it up. Color me interested.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2013, 11:46:18 PM
I saw it too. would recommend for someone looking for something new to watch and are familiar with Psycho.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on March 24, 2013, 03:52:13 PM
Bates Motel: It's like Twin Peaks, but with a disgusting rape scene and a tie-in to one of the best movies ever.

Sold.
It looked like a pretty cheap cash-in. I'll give it a look if it is in any way reminiscent of Twin Peaks though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 24, 2013, 11:27:44 PM
The Walking Dead - awesome episode. The one two weeks ago was a little too slow for my taste, but last week's and this week's were excellent thought I was surprised how quickly Merle was killed and how quickly Daryl killed him (in Walker-form) just minutes later. that was an awesome sequence of events though. I have high expectations for next week's season finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on March 25, 2013, 09:30:14 AM
Avengers: EMH

Does the Wasp ever get tired of being useless and a distraction to those that are useful in about 99% of all situations?

pew pew pew.gif


But she has awesome Banter with the hulk. But yeah from a power standpoint she is pretty freaking useless. They really should have went a more stealthy shield agent style approach like they plan to do with the Ant-man movie and DC is doing with the current atom in the comics.




Watched Kaijudo and it was entertaining if by the numbers digimon clone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2013, 02:59:33 PM
Avengers: EMH

Does the Wasp ever get tired of being useless and a distraction to those that are useful in about 99% of all situations?

pew pew pew.gif

Does a backup kicker ever get tired of receiving a superbowl ring?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 25, 2013, 07:01:13 PM
I get what you're saying, but most teams don't carry a backup kicker, as it's a waste of a roster spot.
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Post by: TJ Spyke on March 25, 2013, 07:09:06 PM
I guess you could say 3rd string QB then. Pretty much the only time they play is in the pre-season or if a team has locked up a layoff birth and want to rest their starters. They almost never get any actual time on the field, but they still get a Super Bowl ring and the pay that comes along with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on April 06, 2013, 07:16:40 PM
Rewatched the first episode of Gossip girl and it reminded me how legit the first and most of the second seasons of the show were. The rest go from god to terrible depending on the character and story arc. The biggest issue was going from seasons 2 to 3 and making a transition from high school to college. They make it really contrived by the end of the second season to make everyone still live in New York come the second season.  For a few characters it made sense why the would go to school in New York or just slack off, but a few others it didn't logically make sense. The show also drops the college angle pretty quickly even though it was a interesting storyline. The same could be said for the character pairing that are pretty predictable by the end of the series. Through all of this the show is still pretty great when it comes to set and costume design, and the music.
 
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 09, 2013, 08:22:53 AM
Person of Interest: The LAST episode was brutal. Nearly every single major arc pushed forward in one episode. All the scheming and moving of the season is starting to build up to something, and given the titles of some of the later episodes if i think what will happen actually does happen then this season will end on a totally destructive note.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2013, 09:37:38 AM
I finished American Horror Story: Murder House. I originally started in December or Janurary, but I didn't really like the pilot. I picked it back up a few weeks ago. After the pilot, it's pretty strong until the last two or three episodes. Too many things were left unexplained and the ending felt rushed. Season Two, Asylum, isn't on Netflix yet, but I heard it's worse than Murder House, especially the ending which supposedly made no sense or was open-ended (depending on who I spoke to).
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 17, 2013, 09:12:25 PM
C-SPAN today - 0/10. Speech afterward @ 5:30 - 10/10.
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Post by: nickmitch on April 17, 2013, 09:40:56 PM
+1
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 13, 2013, 08:40:22 AM
Person of Interest - This is probably the second best TV show that has come from JJ Abrams studio (first being Fringe), and definitely one of the better TV shows in general out of the USA in recent years. The finale was FANTASTIC and completely shifted some story arcs in a new direction for Season 3 and beyond.

If Lost was the start of "long form storytelling" then Fringe fixed a number of those concerns, and POI has now totally nailed it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 13, 2013, 12:48:41 PM
Lost wasn't the start of long-form storytelling. Maybe if you only count network shows, but even then there were earlier examples of it.
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Post by: gbuell on May 13, 2013, 02:05:27 PM
Yeah, such as: every soap opera ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on May 13, 2013, 02:07:00 PM
doctor who did so to an extent, radio dramas, comic books,
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on May 13, 2013, 02:11:22 PM
Twin Peaks is a big one that comes to mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 13, 2013, 02:18:10 PM
As far as I can tell, the only thing LOST popularized was BS nonsensical storytelling. Even that had a start in a previous show Alias.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on May 13, 2013, 02:30:03 PM
Lost had storytelling? All it had some bullshit to keep gullible viewers craving for new mysterious mysteries of mysteriousness.

Though it had pretty good one shots, but the story arc(s?) was complete and utter guano.

Similar to X-Files really. Man, i loved that show. But to these day i don't have any clue what was going on in the Smoker and Krycek episodes. Great one-shots though.

One of the very few live-action shows doing seasons long storytelling right is surprisingly Supernatural. Really great story arcs. Though constantly upping the stakes made the show a bit stale, there is no topping God, Satan and Apocalypse in season 5 or something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 13, 2013, 08:37:18 PM
Star Trek Deep Space Nine was largely serialized over a decade before Lost. The best serialized show ever made (The Wire) had already gone off the air before Lost came into existence.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 14, 2013, 03:12:55 AM
As far as I can tell, the only thing LOST popularized was BS nonsensical storytelling. Even that had a start in a previous show Alias.

oohhboy nailed what i meant. DS9 is the best serialised show i've seen (S3-7 are fantastically balanced), but i'm talking in a post-Lost era where shows throw out the hype-filled mysteries in the first few episodes then twiddle on them for at least a season. Caprica, Stargate Universe, Paradox and Outcasts did it, and even Defiance is doing it now.

I use Lost as a signpost because its what killed scifi (american ones, mainly) in the years after it. It's only now we're seeing it return in a big way, but POI perfected that balance because things that were raised in the pilot were answered in season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 14, 2013, 10:39:54 AM
What I really hate is now that for some reason or other Marketing decides that it HAS to show the meat of the show in the Commercials.  So if you watch the commercial you might as well not even bother with the show because the only thing you haven't seen is fluff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on May 14, 2013, 07:02:17 PM
As far as I can tell, the only thing LOST popularized was BS nonsensical storytelling. Even that had a start in a previous show Alias.
and Phantom Menace was out also...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 14, 2013, 09:58:43 AM
Rahxephon

I have no idea why people consider this even equal to Evangelion let alone better. It has way to many characters to give a **** about, pointless arcs, factions of no function and a mythos that makes less sense than Evangelion. The animation is uninteresting and having the dolems as inanimate lumps of dirt just makes it worse. Shinji might have been a hatable pussy in NGE, but at least you felt something towards him unlike Rah's protagonist Ayato, who personality is based on convenience of the plot disconnected from one episode to the next.

I am so glad I didn't buy this all those years agi when I saw the first episode which was pretty good. Once your ouside of the first episode it just goes down hill.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 13, 2013, 10:48:42 PM
Beware the Batman:

Ugh.  I'm about ten minutes into this and it's pretty painful.  Still going to give the series a chance, but man... CGI Man Nipples aside, this is just horrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on July 13, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
I liked Beware the Batman.

Action felt good and very Nolan-esque. He broke the shoulder and then "fixed" it by slamming into the car.

Alfred looks like a british thug is a drastic change but i kinda like it.

Caught up on Luther.

Why do they have to do this 24 thing every season? Where Luther not only has to deal with multiple cases but also defend himself from internal investigations. They did it in first, second and now in third season. Especially when they re-use the same characters to dig under Luther to do the same thing they did last season.

Otherwise, it's pretty good. Serial killer was creepy enough, and Idris Elba is amazing as always.

Oh, and i just caught first "season" finale of Lexx on TV. I loved this show as teenager. First three season are still good. Season where they go to earth was awful as i remember.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 14, 2013, 12:22:54 AM
I finished up Frasier last night. All in all, I liked it, but it wasn't anything special. Came nowhere close to living up to the Cheers legacy, but I respect it for doing its own thing. 11 seasons seemed like too long, and Kelsey Grammer had to be going insane after 20 straight years of playing Frasier  Crane.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 14, 2013, 12:30:11 AM
I just finished up the last of King of the Hill.  Bought 1-6 on DVD some time ago.  Since FOX hates me and won't release 7-13, and since we recently got Netflix for Arrested Development and my wife won't let me cancel it, I figured now would be a good time to finish it.

It's sad that shows like Family Guy and such continue on, while King of the Hill is dead. :(

Now to determine what I want to go on to next...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on July 14, 2013, 12:34:39 PM
It's sad that shows like Family Guy and such continue on, while King of the Hill is dead. :(

Why would anyone want biting middle class satire when they could have nonsensical skits coming at them rapid fire? Oh yeah, people are fucking stupid. :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on July 14, 2013, 01:47:19 PM
i actually enjoy american dad... king of the hill always seemed so slow to me and with family guy the skits were a nice change of pace until they were just overdone. american dad just seems like a much more well developed show then family guy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 14, 2013, 02:49:39 PM
The funny thing is, I don't *hate* Family Guy - and I'll watch the new episodes... but KotH was pure awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 15, 2013, 04:41:42 AM
I just finished a two-day-ish marathon of TRON: Uprising.  Good series.  Hope it gets some kind of resolution.  Probably won't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 15, 2013, 09:26:11 AM
I just finished a two-day-ish marathon of TRON: Uprising.  Good series.  Hope it gets some kind of resolution.  Probably won't.
Yeah, I talked about it on NFR 18 I believe.  I did the same thing.  Marathoned it in 2 days or so.  Its amazing how fickle public opinion is in that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 15, 2013, 09:32:38 AM
I liked Beware the Batman.

Action felt good and very Nolan-esque. He broke the shoulder and then "fixed" it by slamming into the car.

Alfred looks like a british thug is a drastic change but i kinda like it.

I'll be talking a bit about that first episode on NFR 20, but overall I'm kind of surprised at how much I didn't hate that episode, given how bad the trailers for this show have been. I really don't like Alfred's character design or his cockney accent and Batman's character design is just...weird, but overall it was a decent episode with some decent action.  It looks like the move to CG is going to give the show the same problems the new TMNT has, where apparently NO ONE lives in Gotham City because the streets are completely empty.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 15, 2013, 09:35:40 AM
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It looks like the move to CG is going to give the show the same problems the new TMNT has, where apparently NO ONE lives in Gotham City because the streets are completely empty.
Which I really don't understand.  I mean seriously how hard is it to make a couple male, female, adult, child, etc. models to use as props.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2013, 12:49:27 AM
My Fringe Binge is over. The series is complete.

Long story short: s1, s2, s3, stop.
s4 is an almost complete reset of the show up to that point
s5 is marginally better, but so many things just seemed to be not as well thought out as the rest of the show (& it's only 13 episodes). But things tend to become a complicated mess then you start involving time travel

Overall I enjoyed the show, one of the better Sci-fi shows I've sat through. I just wish it had better ratings and could have carried on the quality that was s2 & s3 into many more seasons going forward.

I really loved the theoretical sciencey nature of the show, definitely a nice change from the alien "invasion" of X-Files. But I still don't understand why there wasn't more of a technology, idea & crop (coffee bean) swap with the alternate universe. we could have gained super regeneration tech & powerful weapons, and they could have had coffee and helicopters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 20, 2013, 09:26:46 PM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 20, 2013, 10:32:52 PM
Today's episode of Beware the Batman with Magpie as the villain was quite good. This series is showing some promise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 21, 2013, 01:20:31 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Because it IS funny, vastly superior to the pile or turn known as Community. I'm baffled how you are in the minority in not thinking it is funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 21, 2013, 01:27:30 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Agreed.  But consider its target demographic.  LCD, man.  LCD.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on July 21, 2013, 01:43:45 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Because it IS funny, vastly superior to the pile or turn known as Community. I'm baffled how you are in the minority in not thinking it is funny.


Bahaha, the majority of the internet hates that show.


 
Plus, the writers are assholes. Did you see their Comic-con panel before the legend of korra one? Complete douchebaggery and cockiness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 21, 2013, 01:51:23 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Because it IS funny, vastly superior to the pile or turn known as Community. I'm baffled how you are in the minority in not thinking it is funny.
Your opinon means nothing because you are TJ Spyke because I said so.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 21, 2013, 02:54:38 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Because it IS funny, vastly superior to the pile or turn known as Community. I'm baffled how you are in the minority in not thinking it is funny.


Bahaha, the majority of the internet hates that show.


 
Plus, the writers are assholes. Did you see their Comic-con panel before the legend of korra one? Complete douchebaggery and cockiness.

The majority of the TV audience and the majority of critics like it. A small minority of people online are not representative of anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 21, 2013, 02:59:49 AM
Rank    Shows    R=Repeat S=Special P=Premiere    Net    18-49 rating    18-49 Viewers (000)
1    AMERICA'S GOT TALENT-WED-07/10    P    NBC    2.8    3483
2    UNDER THE DOME-07/08       CBS    2.7    3404
3    AMERICA'S GOT TALENT-TUE-07/09       NBC    2.6    3291
4    MASTERCHEF WED-9P-07/10       FOX    2.3    2918
5    MASTERCHEF WED-8P-07/10       FOX    2.2    2778
6    Big Brother 15-SUN-07/14    R    CBS    2.1    2672
7    Big Brother 15-THU-07/11    P    CBS    2.1    2661
8    HELL'S KITCHEN-07/11    P    FOX    2.1    2692
9    Big Bang Theory, THE-07/11    R    CBS    2.0    2522
10    Big Brother 15-WED-07/10       CBS    2.0    2578

Top ten.  Obviously, popularity=good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on July 21, 2013, 08:54:52 AM
I will defend MasterChef and Hell's Kitchen because Gordon Ramsey is actually entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 21, 2013, 11:02:21 AM
I never said popularity is the same as quality. But BBT is popular AND good. I know a tiny minority dont like it, but that doesnt matter
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 21, 2013, 11:33:14 AM
TJ Spyke doesn't care about minorities.


But seriously, I kinda like BBT. Sometimes the jokes are really bad, though. It's just an easy show to watch, especially in syndication, because the jokes are so "lowest common denominator". It's easy for me to kick back and watch it after a long day of work because it essentially lets me turn my brain off.

When you're explaining your favorite shows and have to mention how one would have to "appreciate" the humor or subtleties, you should note that not everyone wants to do that. I've only watched a little bit of Community, but the show just doesn't air when I'd like, and I don't like to look **** up on line.

One last bit, more and more people are getting their TV online now. So much so that Nielsen is working to count internet viewers in its numbers (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/tvs-connected-to-the-internet-to-be-counted-by-nielsen/). I don't think the numbers are "small". Relative to TV viewership? Sure. But we're talking about a group of people who watch live TV vs a group of people who watch internet TV. The one who was there first will be bigger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on July 21, 2013, 11:44:05 AM
So I'm not exactly watching it, but Big Bang Theory has been on my TV for that past couple of hours...and I don't get how anyone would ever think this show is funny. It is not. At all.

Because it IS funny, vastly superior to the pile or turn known as Community. I'm baffled how you are in the minority in not thinking it is funny.


Bahaha, the majority of the internet hates that show.


 
Plus, the writers are assholes. Did you see their Comic-con panel before the legend of korra one? Complete douchebaggery and cockiness.

The majority of the TV audience and the majority of critics like it. A small minority of people online are not representative of anything.


Doesn't matter; the writers are still assholes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 21, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
TJ Spyke doesn't care about minorities.


But seriously, I kinda like BBT. Sometimes the jokes are really bad, though. It's just an easy show to watch, especially in syndication, because the jokes are so "lowest common denominator". It's easy for me to kick back and watch it after a long day of work because it essentially lets me turn my brain off.

When you're explaining your favorite shows and have to mention how one would have to "appreciate" the humor or subtleties, you should note that not everyone wants to do that. I've only watched a little bit of Community, but the show just doesn't air when I'd like, and I don't like to look **** up on line.

One last bit, more and more people are getting their TV online now. So much so that Nielsen is working to count internet viewers in its numbers (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/tvs-connected-to-the-internet-to-be-counted-by-nielsen/). I don't think the numbers are "small". Relative to TV viewership? Sure. But we're talking about a group of people who watch live TV vs a group of people who watch internet TV. The one who was there first will be bigger.

Right, people who are too lazy and dumb to appreciate Community and other great shows will find themselves right at home with The Big Bang theory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 21, 2013, 11:47:11 AM
TJ Spyke doesn't care about minorities.


But seriously, I kinda like BBT. Sometimes the jokes are really bad, though. It's just an easy show to watch, especially in syndication, because the jokes are so "lowest common denominator". It's easy for me to kick back and watch it after a long day of work because it essentially lets me turn my brain off.

When you're explaining your favorite shows and have to mention how one would have to "appreciate" the humor or subtleties, you should note that not everyone wants to do that. I've only watched a little bit of Community, but the show just doesn't air when I'd like, and I don't like to look **** up on line.

One last bit, more and more people are getting their TV online now. So much so that Nielsen is working to count internet viewers in its numbers (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/tvs-connected-to-the-internet-to-be-counted-by-nielsen/). I don't think the numbers are "small". Relative to TV viewership? Sure. But we're talking about a group of people who watch live TV vs a group of people who watch internet TV. The one who was there first will be bigger.

Right, people who are too lazy and dumb to appreciate Community and other great shows will find themselves right at home with The Big Bang theory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 21, 2013, 11:52:15 AM
I never said popularity is the same as quality. But BBT is popular AND good. I know a tiny minority dont like it, but that doesnt matter
A tiny minority? Just because a show gets high ratings doesn't mean the majority of TV watchers like it - unless that show has 51% of ALL people watching TV at that moment, then the majority of TV watchers are watching something else. It's popular, but it's not good. It comes on Thursdays at 8:00 (had to check WikiSpykeia for that), the only other thing worth watching Thursdays at 8:00 is Hell's Kitchen (which hasn't been good in years).

Now back to the majority/minority - Calculus 2/Applied Statistics/Discrete Math are the highest math courses I've taken, so I'm legally not a mathematician - but if a competing show, Hell's Kitchen, gets higher ratings than Big Bang Theory in the same time slot, then I'm fairly certain that a majority of people (or a majority of TV watchers) cannot be watching Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory had about 2.5 million watchers on 7/11/13 (according to UncleBob's excellent reporting). According to Google, there are 313.9 million people in the US, so that is roughly 311.4 million people that did not watch Big Bang Theory on that night. Again, I'm not mathematician.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 21, 2013, 11:53:34 AM
Also, I don't like watching anything other than YouTube videos on my computer.

I might start watching it though, but it's low on my priority list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 22, 2013, 12:10:01 PM
I never said popularity is the same as quality. But BBT is popular AND good. I know a tiny minority dont like it, but that doesnt matter
A tiny minority? Just because a show gets high ratings doesn't mean the majority of TV watchers like it - unless that show has 51% of ALL people watching TV at that moment, then the majority of TV watchers are watching something else. It's popular, but it's not good. It comes on Thursdays at 8:00 (had to check WikiSpykeia for that), the only other thing worth watching Thursdays at 8:00 is Hell's Kitchen (which hasn't been good in years).

Now back to the majority/minority - Calculus 2/Applied Statistics/Discrete Math are the highest math courses I've taken, so I'm legally not a mathematician - but if a competing show, Hell's Kitchen, gets higher ratings than Big Bang Theory in the same time slot, then I'm fairly certain that a majority of people (or a majority of TV watchers) cannot be watching Big Bang Theory. Big Bang Theory had about 2.5 million watchers on 7/11/13 (according to UncleBob's excellent reporting). According to Google, there are 313.9 million people in the US, so that is roughly 311.4 million people that did not watch Big Bang Theory on that night. Again, I'm not mathematician.

And on any given week, BBT still gets over 10 times as many viewers as Community. A show that gets lower ratings every year and only still exists because the network it is on is desperate for any show that gets even mediocre ratings. Also, you realize that BBT is in re-runs right now and that it was up against a new episode of Hell's Kitchen? New episodes always finish in the top 5 for the week. Also, now TV show will ever get 51% of the audience again. Back when there were only 3 channels it was possible, but even just counting TV there are hundreds of channels (even basic TV has at least 6 channels: Fox, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, The CW). It's popular to hate on BBT, but that doesn't make it a bad show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 22, 2013, 01:22:34 PM
No, the horrible writing, bad jokes, crappy plots and clichés make it a bad show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on July 22, 2013, 01:52:26 PM
Dexter
Last episode's ending was retarded. It got even stupider in promo for the next episode. Writers obviously lost whatever idea they're doing by that point.

Luther
Last episode's ending was amazing. It got even more amazing in the promo for next episode. poor Justin but DAT Alice
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 22, 2013, 02:02:46 PM
Why do you keep mentioning Community? I watched the first 3 episodes or so and it was terrible so I never watched it again. Thank you for proving my point about your majority/minority comments being completely absurd though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on July 22, 2013, 02:27:09 PM
Chuck Lorre man. I can't stand his shows. Two and Half Men, Big Bang Theory, Mike & Molly, Grace Under Fire.

Normally, I wouldn't care that much about Big Bang Theory but what gets me about the show is how people think I should be all over it. Oh it has superhero references/jokes, science fiction references/jokes, or other such "geek" culture stuff. But none of it is clever or very funny. The writers would brag about how they'd put all these scientific jokes in the backround as well and that's what gets me the most is that the writers and cast think everything is sooo clever and brilliant but it always aims for lowbrow humor. They don't really trust the audience.

Frankly, I think the audience is mainly women anyways. It reminds me of Friends another show I can't stand that is the same type of broad and cliched joke telling as Big Bang Theory. But so many women love that show and it's the same with Big Bang Theory. The vast majority of people I ever see talking about it are women. Considering the show seems to be mainly more relationship focused now just lends more credence to this belief. Plus, the way the show treats the characters, it just feels like this is how women normally see the nerd/geek sterotype and plays them up to that nth degree.

At the same time, I'm not a fan of Community. If anything, it goes too far in the opposite direction. And Dan Harmon is just as big a moron as anyone from the BBT's writers pool if not more so with some of the asinine comments he's made.

For my money, Parks and Recreation is where it is at and does a much better job of managing to be appealing to a vast audience while still throwing in little injokes for the loyal viewing audience and is willing to make jokes on real-life issues/events. Heck, Time magazine picked it as the number one show of 2012 beating out things like Breaking Bad, Mad Men, Homeland. It always has some great laughs and it just gives me a sense of joy when watching it by smartly balancing some drama with its humor.

It just boggles my mind how people haven't tried to watch it but because of The Office so many people have the wrong impression of the show and I still talk to people who have never heard of it. This year it didn't even get an Emmy nom for Best Comedy but Veep and Girls did which I think are even worse than BBT and Community. I guess that's the problem with comedy. People can seem to agree on what makes a good drama but comedy is too subjective.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 22, 2013, 03:30:23 PM
TJ Spyke doesn't care about minorities.


But seriously, I kinda like BBT. Sometimes the jokes are really bad, though. It's just an easy show to watch, especially in syndication, because the jokes are so "lowest common denominator". It's easy for me to kick back and watch it after a long day of work because it essentially lets me turn my brain off.

When you're explaining your favorite shows and have to mention how one would have to "appreciate" the humor or subtleties, you should note that not everyone wants to do that. I've only watched a little bit of Community, but the show just doesn't air when I'd like, and I don't like to look **** up on line.

One last bit, more and more people are getting their TV online now. So much so that Nielsen is working to count internet viewers in its numbers (http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/02/21/tvs-connected-to-the-internet-to-be-counted-by-nielsen/). I don't think the numbers are "small". Relative to TV viewership? Sure. But we're talking about a group of people who watch live TV vs a group of people who watch internet TV. The one who was there first will be bigger.

Right, people who are too lazy and dumb to appreciate Community and other great shows will find themselves right at home with The Big Bang theory.

Can i just point out that Fringe came out with significantly lower ratings than BBT (in fact it's so low it would have been cancelled over here too years ago; Doctor Who gets triple the numbers) yet it finished at 100 episodes and is probably the single best JJ Abrams TV show he's overseen - Lost included.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 22, 2013, 03:46:12 PM
I haven't watched Parks and Recreation in a long time (over a full season) and never finished the last season of The Office...need to catch up on those. The last few episodes of The Office were pretty terrible though. Parks and Recreation is easily the best comedy series, on network television at least.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on July 22, 2013, 03:50:13 PM
I hate comedies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 22, 2013, 04:37:51 PM
Adventure Time

This show, simply put, is ridiculous. Watching it I become overwhelmed with creativity. And some of the most worthy laughs of the show are things that, as a child, wouldn't be funny at all. That's how weirdly hilarious it is. For instance, they took a Princess's cute giggle to be reason enough to hold people hostage. I laughed so hard at the explanation. "And then she laughed in my face man."

If you haven't seen it, give it a chance. The episodes are only eleven minutes long. And if they aren't funny, they're at least entertaining and goofy.

Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 25, 2013, 01:02:43 PM
Just chiming in to say that Big Bang Theory is indeed terrible and the fact that the number of people who like it is pretty high has exactly zero relevance to anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 25, 2013, 01:15:14 PM
Well, you are wrong in saying it is terrible. It just shows you have no good taste in shows and don't know what is funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2013, 01:30:38 PM
Re: Adventure Time - it is awesome.  Great show.

Re: TJ - I don't think *you*, of all people, should be going around insisting that the *opinions* of other forumers are "wrong".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on July 25, 2013, 01:35:33 PM
All comedies suck. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 02:18:04 PM
Well, you are wrong in saying it is terrible. It just shows you have no good taste in shows and don't know what is funny.

How did you get to this point in your life without realizing that comedy is an inherently very subjective thing? You seem to have this mindset that your opinions and tastes are absolute truths and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. That's a developmental phase that usually goes away around age 5 or 6.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on July 25, 2013, 02:32:23 PM
Why do you keep mentioning Community? I watched the first 3 episodes or so and it was terrible so I never watched it again. Thank you for proving my point about your majority/minority comments being completely absurd though.

Since no one responded to you before, this is what I'll say about Community:
 
Probably the first 1/3 of the first season of Community is a bit of a slog to get through, with the exception of a few episodes.  They spend more time on character identification and dialogue/motivations instead of humor, and the show suffers for it.  I personally think it's the weakest/most inconsistent of the first 3 seasons, but they set up a lot of what makes each characters who they are in these episodes, so unfortuantely it's sort of required watching.
 
The 2nd & 3rd season start with the understanding that everyone watching has a general idea who these characters are, and use it as a baseline to pivot off to a lot of the plot and episode decisions.  So while you still get some story development, they're able to focus a lot more on the humor of the show, and the payoff is great.
 
 
I certainly understand why it may not be justifiable for you to continue watching under the assumption that it'll get better, though.  I can't bring myself to pick up Parks & Recreation again simply because I watched 2/3 of the first season and found it incredibly mediocre.
 
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 02:43:49 PM
Your mistake was watching the first season of Parks & Rec. Just skip it, start at season two. That's what I did. You're not missing much by passing it over.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on July 25, 2013, 02:50:09 PM
Your mistake was watching the first season of Parks & Rec. Just skip it, start at season two. That's what I did. You're not missing much by passing it over.

Are there no callbacks or story archs that are in relation to the first season?  I just get the feeling that for most shows, even if the first season isn't good, then it at least has importance relating to the events that follow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 25, 2013, 03:01:27 PM
Well, you are wrong in saying it is terrible. It just shows you have no good taste in shows and don't know what is funny.

How did you get to this point in your life without realizing that comedy is an inherently very subjective thing? You seem to have this mindset that your opinions and tastes are absolute truths and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. That's a developmental phase that usually goes away around age 5 or 6.

I know people have different opinions, I was just acting like he was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 03:20:47 PM
Your mistake was watching the first season of Parks & Rec. Just skip it, start at season two. That's what I did. You're not missing much by passing it over.

Are there no callbacks or story archs that are in relation to the first season?  I just get the feeling that for most shows, even if the first season isn't good, then it at least has importance relating to the events that follow.

Not that much. You miss some of the backstory for Andy, but it's easy to pick up as it goes without having seen the first season. It's one of my favorite shows on TV and I still haven't seen season 1 except for part of the pilot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2013, 03:51:19 PM
Well, you are wrong in saying it is terrible. It just shows you have no good taste in shows and don't know what is funny.

How did you get to this point in your life without realizing that comedy is an inherently very subjective thing? You seem to have this mindset that your opinions and tastes are absolute truths and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. That's a developmental phase that usually goes away around age 5 or 6.

I know people have different opinions, I was just acting like he was.

No, you didn't.  He gave his opinion of the show.  You attacked this opinion.  That's a completely different thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on July 25, 2013, 04:28:40 PM
Just to chime in further on Parks and Rec. I watched the first season when it premiered and I agree that it is pretty mediocore. Some good Ron Swanson lines and evel a bit of Andy stuff is the only real redeeming stuff in that first season but I've never gone back to it to confirm if even that is worth recommending it.

The second season will begin by basically bringing you up to speed again on what is going on and then keeps developing from there. In fact, they even end the whole pit subplot kind of early on in Season 2 allowing it to start opening its focus more. But the fact that you even saw a bit of the first season should more than be enough to move on into the second season and go from there.

I actually stopped watching the show originally in season 2. I saw the first three episodes of it when the premiered and the last one I saw about a beauty pagent was actually one of the best episodes I'd seen at the time of the show but The Office just seemed better to me so I finally decided to give up on it.

Surprisingly, my mom kept watching it which I didn't think would happen since she completely disliked the show in its first season but I guess it was just a habit at that point. She would keep asking me if I'd watched this episode or that and kept saying that the show was really funny but I didn't really trust her opinion since she watches a lot of other stuff I don't find that great.

Eventually, Andy Samburg did a guest appearance on the show so I decided to check it out again and I loved it. She was actually right. It was pretty funny. So, then I saw the next episode and the next episode and I was hooked again from then on. Even though I was lost a bit at what had transpired in that abscence, I soon begin to figure out what was going on and then caught up on most of it. Although, to my secret shame, there are still two second season episodes I've yet to see.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 25, 2013, 05:06:12 PM
Well, you are wrong in saying it is terrible. It just shows you have no good taste in shows and don't know what is funny.

How did you get to this point in your life without realizing that comedy is an inherently very subjective thing? You seem to have this mindset that your opinions and tastes are absolute truths and anyone who disagrees with them is wrong. That's a developmental phase that usually goes away around age 5 or 6.

I know people have different opinions, I was just acting like he was.

No, you didn't.  He gave his opinion of the show.  You attacked this opinion.  That's a completely different thing.

No, he said it in a way like he was right. He did not say it like it's an opinion. For example, it's a fact that Community is a very low rated show that few people watch. That is not disputable since the facts support it. It's my opinion that the show sucks because different people have different tastes. He presented it as if his opinion were fact.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 25, 2013, 05:22:58 PM
Anything anyone says about the quality of any piece of art (and yes, sitcoms count) is inherently an opinion, and no one has to say it in some "special way" to show that it's an opinion. Similarly, TJ says I have terrible taste in comedy, which is inherently his opinion of the quality of my taste in comedy, and thus needs no additional explanation that it's just his opinion. So there are no problems here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on July 25, 2013, 06:51:38 PM
TJ, you're SUPPOSED to say your opinion as a fact, to avoid having to say, "in my opinion" every damn time. The "IMO" is supposed to be implied.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2013, 09:22:32 PM
"I disagree with PersonX's opinion." - a simple statement.
"PersonX's opinion is wrong and PersonX doesn't know what's good." - An attack on someone's opinion.

An opinion, by definition, cannot be "wrong" or "right".  It's the nature of an opinion.  Now, an opinion can be ill-conceived, if it's based off of poor information.  An example would be something like "I think it's wrong to do that because it's illegal." when there's no such law that says it's illegal - the opinion isn't right or wrong, but the basis for forming the opinion is faulty.

In this case, his opinion is, basically, "This show is terrible because it's a comedy and I don't find it funny."*

You say he is wrong because he doesn't know what is funny.  Since comedy is subjective, you can't really say if his opinion is based on faulty information - any more than I could split a group of people into those who like fake watermelon flavoring and those who don't like it, then tell one of the groups that they're wrong and they don't know what's yummy.  You can't *know* something that's subjective, and to suggest otherwise is an insult ("You're too stupid to know what's good." - or, basically, "You're too stupid to not have the exact same subjective opinion that I do.")

*Another example of an opinion based off faulty information would be "Man, Shindler's List is a terrible movie.  It's the most unfunny comedy ever."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 09:36:37 PM
Some people's opinions can be wrong though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 09:37:53 PM
Adventure Time

This show, simply put, is ridiculous. Watching it I become overwhelmed with creativity. And some of the most worthy laughs of the show are things that, as a child, wouldn't be funny at all. That's how weirdly hilarious it is. For instance, they took a Princess's cute giggle to be reason enough to hold people hostage. I laughed so hard at the explanation. "And then she laughed in my face man."

If you haven't seen it, give it a chance. The episodes are only eleven minutes long. And if they aren't funny, they're at least entertaining and goofy.

Highly recommended.

See, this is an example of a correct opinion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 25, 2013, 09:47:20 PM
There's probably 18 or so people in the world (slight exaggeration) that watch Tim and Eric Awesome Show Great Job, but it's it's much funnier than Big Bang Theory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 10:08:01 PM
Tim & Eric is so. . ."awkward" funny. Some of their skits are really good, but that show just makes me feel uncomfortable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 25, 2013, 10:33:08 PM
No, he said it in a way like he was right. He did not say it like it's an opinion. For example, it's a fact that Community is a very low rated show that few people watch. That is not disputable since the facts support it. It's my opinion that the show sucks because different people have different tastes. He presented it as if his opinion were fact.
No, he said it in a way like he was right. He did not say it like it's an opinion.

(http://i53.tinypic.com/a40ljr.jpg)
(I couldn't find a gif of a kid screaming and spitting while he talks)

How else would he express his opinion?
TJ I expect you to attempt to keep the level of discourse above 3rd grade.


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For example, it's a fact that Community is a very low rated show that few people watch. That is not disputable since the facts support it.

Just because McDonalds sells millions of "burgers" everyday doesn't mean it's the best burger in the world... actually doesn't even mean they make a good burger at all. All it means is that there are millions of people out there that apparently don't know any better or have settled for mediocre because it's convenient, "cheap" and what everyone else apparently likes (the sales #'s will support that....)
I cook about 10 burgers a month, and I guarantee you my burgers are without a doubt much better than anything you would find at McDonalds.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on July 25, 2013, 10:37:39 PM
Is there any way a moratorium can be put on speaking of The Big Bang Theory?  I find the show unfunny but inoffensive, personally, but at this point a lot of you are just using TJ Spyke's enjoyment of the show to troll him relentlessly because of how adamantly he feels he needs to defend it.


I'll try a few 2nd season episodes of Parks & Rec before I make a final judgement call, but I agree that basically Ron Swanson was the funniest part of the 1st season so far, and even he was hit or miss.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 10:58:58 PM
It seems like everyone here that isn't TJ Spyke agrees that The Big Bang Theory is a terrible, unfunny, lowest-common-denominator show, so I think we should just lay to rest any discussion of it. Nobody's changing anyone's mind, but it still comes up every few weeks and gets everyone riled up again. I would advise everyone avoid bringing it up in the future.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 25, 2013, 11:03:49 PM
A lot of TV shows and movies are good but have a vocal minority that thinks they aren't good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 11:07:19 PM
And a lot of TV shows and movies that are really popular with a lot of people are also terrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 25, 2013, 11:11:01 PM
And some shows are terrible and get low ratings, but survive because the studio is desperate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 11:11:49 PM

And Nickleback has like 5 platinum albums.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 25, 2013, 11:14:04 PM
And some shows are great but never manage to find an audience because of factors beyond their control.


All four of these things are true in certain cases. Which cases those are depends on your way of looking at it. Let that be the end of all this bullshit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 11:45:20 PM
And some shows are great but never manage to find an audience because of factors beyond their control.

See: Andy Richter's shows.

Actually, you can't because they all got cancelled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 25, 2013, 11:49:48 PM
See, this is an example of a correct opinion.

Well, I do have to say, I completely agree with that opinion.  Doesn't mean it's "correct" though. :D

Is there any way a moratorium can be put on speaking of The Big Bang Theory?

If our Overlords would be so kind, they could edit the word filter to replace "Big Bang Theory", "BBT" and "BigBangTheory" with something amusing (or, at least, more amusing than the show).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 25, 2013, 11:51:51 PM
See, this is an example of a correct opinion.

Well, I do have to say, I completely agree with that opinion.  Doesn't mean it's "correct" though. :D

See, that's an incorrect opinion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on July 26, 2013, 12:11:29 AM
See, this is an example of a correct opinion.

Well, I do have to say, I completely agree with that opinion.  Doesn't mean it's "correct" though. :D

Is there any way a moratorium can be put on speaking of The Big Bang Theory?

If our Overlords would be so kind, they could edit the word filter to replace "Big Bang Theory", "BBT" and "BigBangTheory" with something amusing (or, at least, more amusing than the show).

And replace "Community" with "Big Bang Theory" and you would have a show people watch and is good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 26, 2013, 12:31:04 AM
Question: NCIS had more people watching the week of BBT's season finale than BBT had watching.

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2013/05/21/tv-ratings-broadcast-top-25-the-big-bang-theory-tops-week-34-viewing-among-adults-18-49-ncis-on-top-with-total-viewers/183347/

Does this mean that NCIS is a better show than BBT?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on July 26, 2013, 12:47:00 AM
Pi is exactly 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 26, 2013, 03:17:31 AM
BBT isn't funny because it commits the cardinal sin of comedy. It explains the joke. One of the cast makes a Sci reference/joke, the "Normal" people look at them blankly, said reference maker explains reference. "Normal" person don't get it. Joke maker drives remainder of said joke into ground.

That is just one of the ways BBT isn't funny.

NCIS is a better show than BBT because it's funny, inadvertently so.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on July 26, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
See, this is an example of a correct opinion.

Well, I do have to say, I completely agree with that opinion.  Doesn't mean it's "correct" though. :D

Is there any way a moratorium can be put on speaking of The Big Bang Theory?

If our Overlords would be so kind, they could edit the word filter to replace "Big Bang Theory", "BBT" and "BigBangTheory" with something amusing (or, at least, more amusing than the show).

And replace "Community" with "Big Bang Theory" and you would have a show people watch and is good.

Ok, now you're just being antagonistic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: gbuell on July 26, 2013, 04:56:30 PM
Just finished Game of Thrones S2. Good stuff, awesome looking snow zombies at the very end. I was surprised no major characters died at the end of that episode. (A couple minor ones did.) I'm scared for Sansa.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 26, 2013, 06:40:54 PM
BBT isn't funny because it commits the cardinal sin of comedy. It explains the joke. One of the cast makes a Sci reference/joke, the "Normal" people look at them blankly, said reference maker explains reference. "Normal" person don't get it. Joke maker drives remainder of said joke into ground.

I would argue that the joke in that example is the initial character having to explain him the reference. The first joke is meant to also go over the audience's heads (eventhough they're already pretty low trajectory).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 26, 2013, 07:32:16 PM
You *could* argue that....

But then, you're saying that the vast majority of "jokes" on BBT basically consist of a slight retelling of the exact same joke.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 26, 2013, 07:38:05 PM
I think I'll settle this matter by bringing in an expert on Comedy:

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on July 26, 2013, 09:18:54 PM
I've just realized how big my instant Queue and not deleting stuff kind of defeats the prpose. So i'm on  a mission to clear it up starting today. Going to start House of Cards while knocking stuff off the list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 27, 2013, 09:26:33 AM
You *could* argue that....

But then, you're saying that the vast majority of "jokes" on BBT basically consist of a slight retelling of the exact same joke.

No because the "second telling" isn't the joke. The joke is the "awkwardness" of the non-nerd characters not getting the joke. The dumb characters are the straight man.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 27, 2013, 11:02:26 AM
I'll just say this, which isn't specific to BBT but does apply to it: any TV producer who puts a laugh track on a show in this day and age should be shot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 11:19:45 AM
The joke is the "awkwardness" of the non-nerd characters not getting the joke.

...so, a slight retelling of the same joke, over and over again, in the non-nerd characters reaction to the nerd?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2013, 12:01:07 PM
The joke is the "awkwardness" of the non-nerd characters not getting the joke.

...so, a slight retelling of the same joke, over and over again, in the non-nerd characters reaction to the nerd?

Kinda sounds like a different joke everytime.... same punchline over and over again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 12:40:38 PM
Beware the Batman:

Ugh.  I'm about ten minutes into this and it's pretty painful.  Still going to give the series a chance, but man... CGI Man Nipples aside, this is just horrible.

Man, I really dislike Anarchy in this show.  They're all "we don't want to tell another Joker story", so they've basically destroyed Anarchy's character and turned him into Joker-lite.

Also, this show does the same thing that The Batman did (and to an extent, Batman Begins).  They're trying to (re-) tell the early days of Batman, yet Batman just happens to have the exact gadget he needs on him for the situation?  Handy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 27, 2013, 12:46:24 PM
Beware the Batman:

Ugh.  I'm about ten minutes into this and it's pretty painful.  Still going to give the series a chance, but man... CGI Man Nipples aside, this is just horrible.

Man, I really dislike Anarchy in this show.  They're all "we don't want to tell another Joker story", so they've basically destroyed Anarchy's character and turned him into Joker-lite.

Also, this show does the same thing that The Batman did (and to an extent, Batman Begins).  They're trying to (re-) tell the early days of Batman, yet Batman just happens to have the exact gadget he needs on him for the situation?  Handy.

I haven't seen the episode yet and I'm not familiar with Anarchy.  What is he supposed to be like?  I'm not going to hold it against the show if the character they made is still compelling, but I'm just curious what your perspective on the comic version of Anarchy is.

And while Batman's library of gadgets has always been suspect, I think this show has done a better job of showing an early Batman than most. In the 1st 2 episodes, Batman's kind of sucked at his job. He's lost more fights than he's won up to the end of episode 2, and I kind of appreciate that for what they're trying to do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 12:56:54 PM
Anarchy is *supposed* to be an agent of social change for the people.  Not just random chaos and destruction.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on July 27, 2013, 02:02:53 PM
Man, I really dislike Anarchy in this show.  They're all "we don't want to tell another Joker story", so they've basically destroyed Anarchy's character and turned him into Joker-lite.
Yeah, this Anarky definitely feels like Ledger's Joker.

But i don't agree the show is too gimmick heavy. Having shark repellents is what Batman does, and really should do.

Still, i liked third episode. Once again pretty nice fights.  Not much to say except for that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 02:11:27 PM
But i don't agree the show is too gimmick heavy. Having shark repellents is what Batman does, and really should do.

Eventually, yes.  The thing about the Batman is that he adapts to a need.  Granted, later Batman can usually pull a rabbit out of his hat *because* of his prior experience.  He knows the Scarecrow has fear toxin, so he has the antidote in his belt.  But it'd be a boring origin story if the first time he met the Scarecrow, he already had the antidote.

We see it in this episode, where Anarchy has the "dead man's switch" and the Batman just happens to have a handy-dandy "frequency jamming disc" that he slaps on it to disable it.  Why does he have this disc?  Where did it come from?  How did it just happen to work so perfectly on the exact device Anarchy had at that moment?  If this had been aged Batman, I'd been willing to accept it - since he's probably encounter this kind of thing before.  But, for new Batman to pull this off... ugh.

Not to mention the entire Batcycle-transforming-into-Batglider thing..  Blatantly pushing the toys, there.  What's next? Neon Talking Super Street Bat-Luge?  Because I'd actually buy that toy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 27, 2013, 10:23:29 PM
Well, I've now seen the Beware the Batman episode in question and...yeah, that wasn't a very good episode.  The character is pretty blatantly modeled after the inferior (to Mark Hamill) Heath Ledger Joker, and he just comes off as a whiny little emo brat.  I really don't like the Anarchy character design, which is pretty clearly modeled after The Phantasm, but without any of the character bits that make that costume distinct.  He's a pure-white dude in a pure white cloak with a silly red "A" on his chest.  This character's supposed to be the embodiment of "anarchy" on this show: pure Chaos while Batman is the embodiment of Order.  Setting aside that that's supposed to be Dr. Fate's schtick, there's just nothing about Anarchy's design that shows him to be a creature of ChaosIf anything, he looks more like a representation of Order than Batman does.

I can understand why they went this direction with the character.  Ra's Al Ghoul is going to be a major villain on this show, and his thing is "causing destruction to advance a social aim" (in his case, environmentalism).  They probably wanted to avoid having two villains with similar motivations.  But so far, I don't think this new Anarchy they created works as they have presented him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 11:05:00 PM
Yeah, I wasn't keen on the costume - but wasn't sure how much of that was due to my dislike for the art style vs. the costume itself.

The major difference between Ra's and Anarchy is that Ra's wants to radically remodel the world into his image with him controlling it.  Anarchy wants to remodel the power structure with the people controlling it.  Yeah, this might be "too deep" for the target audience to understand, which is why I kinda wondered about the inclusion of Anarchy to begin with...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on July 27, 2013, 11:12:11 PM
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on July 27, 2013, 11:22:28 PM
Rebels vs. Freedom Fighters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 29, 2013, 10:01:27 AM
I caught an episode of Beware of the Bat this weekend and it was the Anarchy.  I found the Anarchy costume pretty much the opposite of the Batman costume which is to say I really don't like either one.  I don't like the new Alfred and his sarcastic comments.  I don't like the Arch in their that New Alfred is insisting Batman has a partner in this Girl who they are "Testing".  I don't like how most things were just glossed over in this episode.  I don't like the Anarchy character simply because he feels like Generic Batman Villian because we couldn't use the actual right villian.

If this episode is any indication of the quality of the show.  Then I'll take another Brave and the Bold or continuing The Batman.  Batman:TAS has nothing to fear from this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 29, 2013, 11:07:50 AM
I caught an episode of Beware of the Bat this weekend and it was the Anarchy.  I found the Anarchy costume pretty much the opposite of the Batman costume which is to say I really don't like either one.  I don't like the new Alfred and his sarcastic comments.  I don't like the Arch in their that New Alfred is insisting Batman has a partner in this Girl who they are "Testing".  I don't like how most things were just glossed over in this episode.  I don't like the Anarchy character simply because he feels like Generic Batman Villian because we couldn't use the actual right villian.

If this episode is any indication of the quality of the show.  Then I'll take another Brave and the Bold or continuing The Batman.  Batman:TAS has nothing to fear from this.

Well, it's unfortunate that this episode of Beware the Batman was your first, because I think we can all agree it's the weakest of the 3 thus far. Before you hang up the show in general, though, I suggest you watch episode 2: "Secrets", which is the Magpie episode.  By contrast, that was a pretty good episode with a character who wasn't just "not-Catwoman", and at times it felt like it could have been a Batman: The Animated Series episode.

I am concerned about this series after this last episode.  While it's not unusual for a series' 1st series to have some clunkers (Rewatch Batman: TAS sometime. Boy, does it have some baaaaad episodes in the early going), Anarchy is supposed to be this series' main villain and right now I'd prefer even Prof. Pig & Mr. Toad over him.  This series could really go either way right now, so hopefully episode 4 is more like episode 2 than 1 or 3.

As for Alfred, I kind of have to tilt my head at you taking issue with his sarcasm, as that's kind of Alfred's thing in most Batman animated incarnations. Hell, the Alfred in Batman: TAS was a particularly notable smartass.  I'm not sure how I feel yet about this more active and thuggish Alfred, but he does establish in the 1st episode why he wants Bruce to have a partner ("One day, I'm not going to be around anymore, and I want to make sure you're taken care of").
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 29, 2013, 11:29:15 AM
Theirs a marked difference.  Alfred would chide but he never really fully lamented his lot in life.  While he would gladly rib anyone it could never be construed as a "You know Who I am and now you have me doing this" type of moment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on July 29, 2013, 11:55:43 AM
Yep, BTAS fares very badly in terms of good/bad episodes ratio.

One of the many reasons i prefer STAS to it.

I'm okay with "new" Alfred cause it's a fresh new re-interpretation while staying true to the character to the letter (english butler/father figure, former secret agent).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TalesOfFan on July 29, 2013, 11:57:25 AM
Dororon Enma-kun Meeramera (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9XL35b9OjI) - 9/10
 
Meeramera isn't really a show for everyone, hell it'd be hard to recommend it to most anime fans, but it's gold for Go Nagai fans. Each episode loosely adapts a chapter from the 1973 manga, Dororon Enma-kun, while also throwing in tons or references to 1970s, Japanese pop culture and other Go Nagai works, such as Mazinger Z and Devilman.
 
Meeramera's story is pretty typical. The head of Hell, Enma the Great, sends his nephew, Prince Enma, along with his two friends, Princess Yukiko and Kapaeru, to unleash judgment on mischievous demons living in the human world. The story isn't really what makes Meeramera great, though it does have its moments; it's the series’ sense of humor that makes it worthwhile.
 
The series' humor is outlandish and adheres to the tone of Uncle Go's original work. To give an example of just how outlandish Meeramera's humor is, there is an episode where the Demon Patrol fight a demon named Fatty the Kid that becomes enraged when he sees skinny people. He then proceeds to transform the entire human population into globular masses with a huge case of the munchies. And in doing so, he brings about world peace, but Enma destroys him anyway and reverts everyone back to their old selves.

Aside from that, the show is also pretty perverted. It was made to appeal to people that grew up in the early 70s and watched, or read the original Dororon Enma-kun. It's definitely not for kids.

 
(http://i.imgur.com/CPyiRqk.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 29, 2013, 10:18:21 PM
Just watched the first episode of Beware the Batman. In short: it sucked. In the first few minutes, you meet 5 characters, and three of them have English accents. I dunno why, but I thought that was weird. Then the rest of the episode was just. . .blah.


Episode 3 was also on On Demand, so I watched it too. (Curious that the second episode wasn't there.) Anyway, that one sucked too for the exact reason UB stated earlier and like one or two more reasons. Can't say anything about this show is winning me over.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 04, 2013, 02:32:35 PM
Hm.  This weeks BtB episode was probably one of the better episodes.  Still not completely sold on the series.  Also, not a fan of Alfred shooting some kind of futuristic shotgun.  A) Guns and Batman don't mix (although Flashpoint Batman with guns was pretty neat) and B) Didn't the creators say that the early art featuring Alfred with guns was just promotional stuff and not to worry about it?

Aside from that, this is probably the best episode so far... but that's not saying a whole lot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 04, 2013, 03:29:17 PM
Personally, I was more bothered by the fact that Alfred was firing what was clearly a shotgun like one would fire a rifle.  I do question Bruce allowing guns in the house, though.

On a side note, why did the villain have to be named "Silver Monkey"?  Every time his name came up, my mine kept shooting to THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQvzoY9SaQY).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on August 05, 2013, 12:25:32 AM
It was a solid one, but Magpie episode was the best.

Some really nice action again, great fast fights, trick with bike jumping was just brilliant.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 05, 2013, 02:00:29 AM
Holy **** to the ending of Rising Hope's Deloren episode.

Rob.

Rob Schneider plays the straight guy in a comedy where he marrieds a Mexican bombshell of a wife in Vegas. Wife's extended family intrude like Hitler invading Poland. Ray Romano wants his old show back. Far more laughs can be found in Judge Dredd or Everyone Loves Raymond. Avoid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 05, 2013, 02:09:15 AM
Umm... I think you mean Raising Hope? :D

Raising Hope, in general, is freaking awesome. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on August 05, 2013, 11:49:34 PM
so John Frobisher Peter Capaldi is confirmed as the next doctor...
(http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_me5qyfxBSK1qhap1n.gif)
Seriously anyone who isn't excited by this hasn't seen Torchwood: Children of Earth. (which gets my upmost recommendation to anyone who can handle its extremely dark tone, which includes hands down the most sinister and (from a moral standpoint) disgusting villain in the franchises history

it will be interesting to see how he plays his new role.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on August 06, 2013, 12:00:39 AM
Caught season one finale of Gravity Falls.

It was okay i guess, you could see the ending from a mile away but it was still solid GF stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 06, 2013, 10:57:54 PM
so John Frobisher Peter Capaldi is confirmed as the next doctor...
Seriously anyone who isn't excited by this hasn't seen Torchwood: Children of Earth. (which gets my upmost recommendation to anyone who can handle its extremely dark tone, which includes hands down the most sinister and (from a moral standpoint) disgusting villain in the franchises history

it will be interesting to see how he plays his new role.

Meh, never heard of him. I will give him a shot though and hope he is better than Matt Smith was. Little surprised that went with such an older actor though (he's 55) since they haven't had an older Doctor in over 30 years. And he actually guest starred in a Season 4 episode ("The Fires of Pompeii").
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2013, 11:25:56 PM
I know Beware the Batman is supposed to focus around villains, but I like my Batman to tackle street crimes every now and then. It's kinda weird for there to be so many "super-villains" in Gotham so "early" in Bruce's career. I just think that Gotham feels too safe unless you're a millionaire. And there never seems to be any traffic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Morari on August 06, 2013, 11:35:54 PM
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 07, 2013, 03:27:21 AM
so John Frobisher Peter Capaldi is confirmed as the next doctor...
Seriously anyone who isn't excited by this hasn't seen Torchwood: Children of Earth. (which gets my upmost recommendation to anyone who can handle its extremely dark tone, which includes hands down the most sinister and (from a moral standpoint) disgusting villain in the franchises history

it will be interesting to see how he plays his new role.

Meh, never heard of him. I will give him a shot though and hope he is better than Matt Smith was. Little surprised that went with such an older actor though (he's 55) since they haven't had an older Doctor in over 30 years. And he actually guest starred in a Season 4 episode ("The Fires of Pompeii").

He's very well known over here for a variety of TV shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE8aDgYxfuY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE8aDgYxfuY) - the audio is NSFW. Use headphones.

Imagine having THIS doctor!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 10, 2013, 07:08:06 PM
Well, another Saturday, another new Beware the Batman episode, this time starring Humpty Dumpty.  Happily, this is easily the best episode since episode 2, and Humpty Dumpty got a good intro (albeit one as a wannabe-Toyman).  He was depicted as psychotic and creepy (his house gave me severe flashbacks to the final stage of Condemned: Criminal Origins), but sympathetic.  More episodes like this, please.  This show seems to do truly insane villains pretty well.

Oh, and bonus points for them pronouncing Ra's Al Ghul correctly: "Ray-sh". Of course, that should be expected from the creative team that brought us Batman Beyond, where they had Terry mocking Ra's an entire episode by mispronouncing his name "Ra-sss".  :P:

Oh yeah, and the new TMNT had its season finale today. Decent enough, and Kurai's backstory reveal was expected but appreciated.  That was a very good season overall, though I wish it was more consistently aired. The show randomly aired all season.
 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 10, 2013, 08:30:41 PM
I'd actually put this episode above #2 (which was *okay*, IMHO).  The series is on an upward trend, that's for sure.  I still don't care about this iteration Katana and the show isn't really giving me reasons to care about her.  Again, Alfred with a gun - that he pulls out at the drop of a hat?  Ugh.  And what's with all these civvies being cozy with Batman?  The Taxi Driver, Barbara...  Aren't the police and the media portraying him has some kind of whackjob that's a danger to the public and that's why they need to arrest him?

I liked how we see him "create" the gadget that he then uses to stop the toy soldiers.  Granted, the high-tech scanning doo-hicky was just really handy for him to have at that exact moment... but here we see young Batman using his brains to create the gadget, instead of just having the gadget handy.

In spite of all of my complaining, it was a pretty decent episode.

With that, I'd also like to say... geesh, I really hate the DC Nation Shorts where they're "Bringing the DC Universe one step closer to reality."  They're freaking ridiculous.  Oh, she can lasso a single guy slowly jogging across a crosswalk?  WOW!  SUPERHEROES ARE REAL!

...

I'd honestly love to see how many takes it took for her to get them. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 12, 2013, 12:15:05 AM
Breaking Bad s5e8 (s5pt2)

Starts off a strong.

I want to take a screen cap of the final scene in in the garage and set it up like SSFII, Walt vs Hank - FIGHT!!! power bars and all, Walts will have some damage done already of course. but that will have to wait till after everyone has seen the episode. don't want to spoil, even though it should be obvious already.

It should be a helluva ride from e9 through e16.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on August 12, 2013, 02:40:04 AM
Tread lightly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 12, 2013, 03:15:47 AM
If anyone posts Breaking Bad spoilers that aren't properly tagged I will ban you from this site.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 12, 2013, 03:32:13 AM
[spoilers]Walt. Jr. eats breakfast[/spoilers]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 12, 2013, 12:28:43 PM
[spoilers]Walt. Jr. eats breakfast[/spoilers]

It's been rumored that in the last episode, in a shocking twist, Walt Jr.'s breakfast eats him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 12, 2013, 12:36:49 PM
Breaking Bad s5e8 (s5pt2)

Starts off a strong.

I want to take a screen cap of the final scene in in the garage and set it up like SSFII, Walt vs Hank - FIGHT!!! power bars and all, Walts will have some damage done already of course. but that will have to wait till after everyone has seen the episode. don't want to spoil, even though it should be obvious already.

It should be a helluva ride from e9 through e16.

The remainder of the episodes will have to move at a breakneck pace if their intent is to tie up all the loose ends in the story.  A few thoughts of mine from the premiere:
 

I'm so glad this show has started moving towards the end.  I'm excited to see what rabbits the writers pulled out of their hats for this.
Title: Don't Read This Post!! ~or~ I have already been banned!?
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 12, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
If anyone posts Breaking Bad spoilers that aren't properly tagged I will ban you from this site.

[spoiling]
(http://i.imgur.com/i5i8ron.jpg)
[/spoiled]

that was a spoiler in the sense that a scene that perfect will likely not happen, and now you will be disappointed. I hope that didn't spoil it for you.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 15, 2013, 04:17:37 PM
LOST

Don't ask me why I decided to watch this (or even why now). If I told you the reason, you'd simply shake your head.

That being said, the only mystery I wanted answered by the end is how many times will they show someone giving birth. It turns out the answer is a **** TON. They even had this one chick, Claire, give birth seven separate times to the same child.

The show started out pretty good, but soon enough I found myself forwarding through the flashbacks and flashforwards just to move the plot along. It's too bad the plot eventually turned out to suck and then ended in the worst way possible. Seriously, they couldn't have wrote a shittier way for it to end except for it all being a dream.

There were so many interesting things that could have happened that simply didn't or wasn't explored further. All the questions they answered ended up making those questions non-consequential or completely bland. It also didn't help that they focused on the love-traingle (square?) for like three seasons.In all honesty, I could have watched the first two seasons and then the last and been completely fine plot wise. Nothing really happened in that time.

And that's really the main problem with the show. Nothing really happened despite a lot happening. Poor story writing is to blame for sure.

A waste of time/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 15, 2013, 05:31:23 PM
I think the fact you watched LOST is enough of a reason to shake one's head. Called BS on that show inside of two episodes.

I am about half way through Superman the animated series. It is overall better than Batman TAS, but alot of it is due to the fact STAS didn't have to learn the ropes like Batman did, making Batman more inconsistant. BTAS turning out the way it did is a miracle considering how god awful most 80's cartoons were coming into the early 90's. Serious drama in a cartoon? That's crazy talk. It was so different to everything else at the time they to go learn from the Japanese.

Of course STAS had Dana Delany who even when I watched it originally, sounds sublime as she does now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 15, 2013, 06:25:07 PM
Lost is not a good show. Seriously, if a show can not hook me by the end of the first season then I am not gonna waste any more time with it. I got about 8 episodes in and the show was not getting any better, I could not care less about the characters or if they lived, and the writers seemed to care more about making a needlessly complex at the expense of making it entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 15, 2013, 06:26:26 PM
Watching (and hating) Lost is a great example of why you should just give up and watch Fringe instead.

Better acting, better writing, better story and better chemistry.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 15, 2013, 06:32:46 PM
I love Fringe, MUCH better and one of the only good things JJ Abrams has done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 15, 2013, 06:37:37 PM
Almost Human (from the same guy who oversaw Fringe) looks to be as good too.

But that seems to be more of a JH Wyman thing, because Person of Interest is great too, as opposed to JJ Abrams.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on August 15, 2013, 11:44:10 PM
LOST is a horrible show overall, but it did have some nice moments.

It's a victim of showrunners not having a consistent vision for how the story will go further so they just make it up as they go along and make it more and more retarded in the process, sometimes even completely contradicting themselves by the end. Same was with BSG.

This kinda of drecks really makes me appreciate shows like Avatar: The Last Airbender or mini-series like Lost Room. Creators knew what they wanted to do from the get go and never strayed away from that.


I am about half way through Superman the animated series. It is overall better than Batman TAS, but alot of it is due to the fact STAS didn't have to learn the ropes like Batman did, making Batman more inconsistant. BTAS turning out the way it did is a miracle considering how god awful most 80's cartoons were coming into the early 90's. Serious drama in a cartoon? That's crazy talk. It was so different to everything else at the time they to go learn from the Japanese.

Of course STAS had Dana Delany who even when I watched it originally, sounds sublime as she does now.
I was always repeating that S:TAS is better than BTAS but noone believes me. STAS is even my favourite show in entire DCAU (because horrible season 1 of JL soured me on it's later seasons even though i can appreciate how much big of a jump in quality they made after that).

My favourite episodes in STAS are: World's Finest, Mxyzpixilated, Brave New Metropolis, Knight Time, and of course Late Mr. Kent (my favourite episode in any superhero show, DAT ending).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 16, 2013, 12:47:06 AM
LOST and Heroes are shows that I loved the first season, and lost (heh) their potential after that. Fringe is so much better than LOST it's not even funny.


Avatar: the Last Airbender is a good example of a show where they got to tell their tale and end it. Which makes me slightly wary of Korra (though unlike most fans, I'm optimistic of the creators).


Speaking of Korra, the release date of the new season got announced today: September 13th at 7 EST, a Friday.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 16, 2013, 11:41:34 AM
First season of Justice League horrible? LOL, I think you have bad tastes. It is the worst of the 4 seasons, but still pretty good. As for STAS vs. BTAS, overall BTAS is superior IMO.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 16, 2013, 12:32:26 PM
Oh man I hated Lost, I got into it for a couple episodes then bam my mom and sisters became obsessed with it so no matter whose house I went to it was always on. They have watched the show five times through each and it just boggles my mind. It must have some appeal to women or something that I don't see.


The only TV show I am into right now is the Big Bang Theory, which I am barely staying into since this last season really was a dull one. I was into How I Met Your Mother but that show has become a chore to watch so I gave up on it.


I would rate lost a sucky 2 out of 5, nothing really worth mentioning that isn't well known.

Big Bang seasons 1-3 I rate a 5/5 4-6 I rate 3.5/5, last season, I think it was 6 or 7, a 2.5/5 at this point if I keep watching it will because there is nothing else on.

I stopped watching HIMYM and I won't go back till the finale.


I did get into this show called Lost Girl on Netflix but it was only good for three episodes then it suddenly dropped in quality and I stopped watching. I am waiting for the last seas of Doctor Who to come to Netflix to get caught up on that but I am losing interest in that show since Amy left as I don't care for this new doctor as much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TJ Spyke on August 16, 2013, 12:42:46 PM

The only TV show I am into right now is the Big Bang Theory

Finally someone else here with good tastes. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 16, 2013, 02:23:26 PM
Ha ha. Not to start up another BBT war since I'm faily sure the last post was in jest but to counter it, he did say:

The only TV show I am into right now is the Big Bang Theory, which I am barely staying into since this last season really was a dull one.

Even a fan of the show is admitting it isn't that good. At least currently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2013, 03:23:15 PM
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I stopped watching HIMYM and I won't go back till the finale.
...
I wish I wouldn't had watched the last 2 or so seasons.  They had their moments but the show is away from its prime.  Plus the Mom I hate to say is a serious let down unless they suddenly switched it next season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 16, 2013, 04:07:27 PM
Big Bang Theory would make a great title for a porno.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 16, 2013, 04:14:33 PM
"Somebody" failed reading comprehension again...

HIMYM is seriously pissing me off now and I too wish it to end. It use to be pretty funny, but it has far outran it's premise and material. It doesn't help that Josh's character Ted is easily the biggest lamest douche on TV ever created. I wish him death every episode. I hate him more than actual villians.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on August 16, 2013, 04:22:18 PM
Big Bang Theory would make a great title for a porno.
I am strongly considering replacing lucarios quote with this
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 16, 2013, 04:33:53 PM
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It doesn't help that Josh's character Ted is easily the biggest lamest douche on TV ever created. I wish him death every episode. I hate him more than actual villians.
Theirs just only so long you can play that sort of character before that becomes the feeling.  All the archetype have given all they have to give.  The Mom should have been met 2 seasons ago and these last 2 seasons should have been courting plus the other stuff they been doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 16, 2013, 06:14:23 PM
I really hate what has become of HIMYM, it was such a great show at first, then it tried to be a Friends knock off and that is when it started to slip I think. I also grew to hate Ted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on August 17, 2013, 05:08:26 PM
Hey, you know what TV show really sucks? The Big Bang Theory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on August 17, 2013, 05:53:17 PM
Hey, you know what TV show really sucks? The Big Bang Theory.

I like the cut of this man's jib.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on August 17, 2013, 06:03:11 PM
http://www.sickchirpse.com/the-big-bang-theory-sucks/ (http://www.sickchirpse.com/the-big-bang-theory-sucks/)
http://www.ugo.com/tv/11-reasons-geeks-hate-the-big-bang-theory (http://www.ugo.com/tv/11-reasons-geeks-hate-the-big-bang-theory)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 17, 2013, 06:36:47 PM
The show is incredibly offensive sure but what mainstream sitcom isn't offensive to someone? Controversy is what makes good comedy.

I have yelled at the TV on more than one occasion for that very thing, especially their constant contradictions as well as complete lack of understanding the rift between Star Wars and Star Trek fans.


But nerds and geeks are not the same, geeks are just wanna be nerds who just don't get it.
I still like the show despite how offensive it is because it is still funny and like most real nerds, I can relate to it on so many levels. Stereotypes are okay for comedy because that is what makes it comedy, you think Roseanne is a true and accurate portrayal of lower class suburban American life? Bullshit it is pure hollywood stereotyping at its worst and yet it still related to those same folks it offended. If someone is so offended by a comedy that can't take a joke then that person has a problem.


Why I like the show personally is for all the negative stereotyping it does it still portrays the characters as real people who are aware of their shortcomings, instead of in the old days like Screech or Urkel where they were deliberately trying to be offensive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on August 17, 2013, 07:53:43 PM
I am waiting for the last seas of Doctor Who to come to Netflix to get caught up on that but I am losing interest in that show since Amy left as I don't care for this new doctor as much.

if you don't care for peter capaldi then heres what you should do

Netflix, Torchwood -> go right to season 3(first two are mostly crud and inconsequential) -> hit play, pay attention to John Frobisher.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 17, 2013, 08:24:14 PM
I meant Matt Smith, I haven't seen the newest Doctor. I loved all three seasons of Torchwood, the Starz one doesn't count though that was a mess. My favorite Doctor so far has been Eccleston followed by David Tennant, I don't care for Matt Smith at all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 17, 2013, 09:02:34 PM
"Somebody" failed reading comprehension again...

HIMYM is seriously pissing me off now and I too wish it to end. It use to be pretty funny, but it has far outran it's premise and material. It doesn't help that Josh's character Ted is easily the biggest lamest douche on TV ever created. I wish him death every episode. I hate him more than actual villians.

Watching the latter seasons of that show make me think the writers themselves wanted it to end. They wrote themselves into corners with a couple chicks, only to have them not be her. The on again off again with Robin was infuriating. NPH and Forgetting Sarah Marshall kept me watching that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 17, 2013, 09:34:24 PM
Wow Seriously?  Torchwood went down hill from the first season.  It started strong got week.  Matt Smith was a good Doctor.  David Tennant as well.  Eccleston was junk.  Easily my least favorite Doctor.  Though I have a feeling that you both have a short history with Dr.Who.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on August 17, 2013, 10:06:01 PM
Wow Seriously?  Torchwood went down hill from the first season.  It started strong got week. Matt Smith was a good Doctor.  David Tennant as well.  Eccleston was junk.  Easily my least favorite Doctor.  Though I have a feeling that you both have a short history with Dr.Who.
there are only 18 serials of the classic series in netflix, don't blame me.

Smith was pretty good but it felt like he was held back by writing (fish fingers and custard, SERIOUSLY!?!?)

Tennant was absolutely excellent, he seemed to work well with absolutely everything around him.

Eccleston was pretty good as well, when the revived series began the Doctor had just come out of the Time War and was struggling to recover from its effects on him (something that would continue on in Tennant and to a lesser extent Smith's careers).

Slyvester Mcoy i cannot make a judgement on(only one of the serials on netflix features him)

Jon Pertwee I am really enjoying what i've seen of him so far. neat little story idea of having him stuck on earth but the next episode netflix does has him being able to leave so screw you bbc

thats all i can say atm.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 17, 2013, 10:44:47 PM
Not all of them but I did see most of the old ones and the movie too. Even the old movies that were just barely had anything to do with Doctor Who. To be honest though Doctor Who/Torchwood is about the limit of my tolerance of British tv shows so it could be that too.


As for Torchwood, yes the first season was the best but season two was still mostly good, three was alright but I just hate how it ended. As far as I am concerned the Miracle Day never happened.


As for the old Doctors, I really only liked the first two and then the one from the movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 17, 2013, 11:00:23 PM
Have you watch Sherlock? Because holy **** you should watch Sherlock. Forget about the knock off show called Elementry. It will put some cream and sugar in that British cup of tea you have a low tolerance of.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on August 17, 2013, 11:20:27 PM
Yeah, oohhboy speaks the truth. BBC's Sherlock is incredible. I cannot wait until series 3 begins. Cumberbatch and Freeman are an amazing pair - their on-screen chemistry is so good that it's scary.

As far as Doctors go...Ceric, you're crazy! Eccleston is fantastic. I've gone through all of the classic Who episodes listed on Netflix, and if I had to rank them in order of favourites, it would probably go like this:

Tennant, T. Baker, Eccelston, Pertwee, Troughton, Smith, Davison, McCoy, and Hartnell.

I can't really include Colin Baker, as I haven't seen any of his serials yet. Soon, though. But, sheesh, his Who attire is crazy weird. It makes McCoy's question mark walking cane seem modest. Also, Smith and Davison are kind of interchangeable for me. There are episodes where I like Smith, and then there are those that I absolutely despise him. I blame this mainly on Moffat and his daft writing and storytelling. I can't wait until the show gets some fresh blood in it.

Peter Capaldi should make things really interesting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on August 18, 2013, 01:58:28 AM
I tried to gt into that whole Who thing.

I checked out one episode with Ecclestone guy. His mannerisms annoyed me so much i turned it off after 15 minutes.

And it's not really about this actor, because i LOVED his performance in Shadow Line (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1701920/) (one of the best mini-series i've seen in years, highly recommended, it's pretty gruesome but actors work in it was almost hyptnotic for me, that's how good it was).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 18, 2013, 03:17:49 AM
Sherlock's alright, but it's far from the brilliant piece of TV Nirvana it's made out to be. For one thing, at least 2 episodes out of the 6 they've made downright suck (the middle episodes of both seasons), mainly because their flimsy stories just couldn't withstand being stretched out over a 1.5 hour run time.  Hell, even the good episodes feel like they're crawling to the finish line by the end, leaving me feeling more exhausted than content.  I also just didn't care for that show's Moriarty in general, who was more a wannabe Joker than a puppet master Kingpin of Crime.

That said, I do really like Benedict Cumberbatch as Holmes, and the show's Watson is alright.  The show also does a really good job of updating the character for a modern setting.

I am looking forward to the 3rd season, but I find the show's format extremely lacking.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 18, 2013, 09:59:31 AM
Here's the problem,

Eccleston is easily one of the Grittiest doctors.  I don't like that style of Dr.Who.  Tennant was a return to a more traditional Doctor and had some stories to support that.  Smith, who I think is a good doctor, unfortunately had the Gritty Eccleston style stories to work with for the most part.  Smith is the victim of where they wanted to Arch the Doctor.  Honestly the whole Time Wars nonsense should have never happened.  Its only hurt the series in the long run.  Especially since they didn't dedicate any TV time to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 19, 2013, 03:39:26 AM
Well, I finally got around to watching the latest episode of Beware the Batman and...it's a Metamorpho episode. To be fair to the show, this is a better introduction than Justice League's double-length version of his origin story, but I've never cared for this character. It's odd because his backstory is very similar to Clayface & Twoface's (two "tragic" Batman villains I really like), but there's just something about the character that just strikes me as...lame.  Maybe it's his haphazard character design or the fairly arbitrary nature of his powers.

Overall, some solid animation & a pretty decent episode overall. I just hope this character doesn't pop up much in this series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 19, 2013, 09:47:24 PM
Arrow 8/10 pretty good..... for DC!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on August 23, 2013, 11:05:09 PM
So... Teen Titans Go!

I can't decide if I like this show or not.  Very strong mixed feelings.  It's fun, but it also makes me sad on how they ended the other series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 23, 2013, 11:50:36 PM
I like it. It's Chibi-camp. That makes me smile. We're not getting the old show back, so I just got over it and decided to enjoy what we have because it's good in its own way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 24, 2013, 12:42:58 AM
So... Teen Titans Go!

I can't decide if I like this show or not.  Very strong mixed feelings.  It's fun, but it also makes me sad on how they ended the other series.


IT'S SO DUMB, ****


Seriously, ONLY IN THIS SHOW could they have Beast Boy say **** like "swag". Seriously, this new "show" is an insult to the fans of the original show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 24, 2013, 12:57:23 AM
So... Teen Titans Go!

I can't decide if I like this show or not.  Very strong mixed feelings.  It's fun, but it also makes me sad on how they ended the other series.


IT'S SO DUMB, ****


Seriously, ONLY IN THIS SHOW could they have Beast Boy say **** like "swag". Seriously, this new "show" is an insult to the fans of the original show.

Indeed. I gave up on the show after the 2nd episode.  I'm perfectly fine with "dumb comedy", w/ an emphasis on randomness and simpler comedy. The "wacky" episode of the original series are among my favorites, but TTG is just STUPID humor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 24, 2013, 01:01:09 AM
You lasted that long? I gave up five minutes into the first episode. Hell, I knew it was going to be bad but I had to see it for myself.  I just hope that one day they'll revive the original show and continue the path they were heading.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 25, 2013, 08:46:22 PM
watch in the night garden with two little brothers then start complaining!:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: toddra on August 25, 2013, 09:44:42 PM
I guess Lost girl did last more than one season but stupid Netflix only has a few episodes so maybe I will wait till they get more and give it a second chance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 26, 2013, 12:23:40 AM
Obligatory holy **** Breaking Bad comment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 26, 2013, 06:56:08 PM
Heh. I wouldn't say there has been a shocking or unreal moment yet like, say, the One Minute episode or Face/Off episode. So far, it has just been a steady flow of tension as the dominoes start falling one after the other. Not getting too high or too low.

That said, I think next episode or the 5th episode in will be the one that might launch this season into the stratosphere. It was the 5th episode in last time that we got Dead Freight which I think was the highlight episode last year but with the way things are at now, it may be sooner that we see an episode of that caliber. Or maybe it will just stay on this even keel of tension as things move to their inevitable conclusion.

And now a bit of musings on the show involving a bit of spoiler/speculation.

So, all we have seen of the future is that Walter is still alive and returns to ABQ with some mission in mind. There are 5 episodes left. Do you think most of the characters are going to survive until the last or second to last episode and then start getting offed? Half live, half die? Almost everyone lives? The current speculation is most die with people hoping that Jesse is one of the few to survive but it seems unlikely. That said, with only 5 episodes to go, do you think the writers/creators would really wait until the end to start killing people off? I have a feeling it might start sooner with one major character after the next biting the bullet a few episodes in a row so as to show more of the fallout for each loss and keep escalating the situation.

Or do you think most everyone can stay alive for another 3 episodes and keep raising the stakes and stretching the situation further? If you look at it like that, I could see the writers being able to keep everyone alive until that point. Right now, the person most in danger of being killed is Pinkman because of where he is at when this episode ended but that could be overcome and left to simmer. And yet, if you get there with mostly everyone in tact, is it really going to be that big a deal to start whacking a bunch of them?

If instead most of the characters actually survive at the end, would you be satisified or does the show now require multiple deaths to meet expectations? Just something I've been thinking about today on the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 26, 2013, 07:35:18 PM
Obligatory holy **** Breaking Bad comment.
.

Hot damn. Broke bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 26, 2013, 08:48:59 PM
Heh. I wouldn't say there has been a shocking or unreal moment yet like, say, the One Minute episode or Face/Off episode. So far, it has just been a steady flow of tension as the dominoes start falling one after the other. Not getting too high or too low.

That said, I think next episode or the 5th episode in will be the one that might launch this season into the stratosphere. It was the 5th episode in last time that we got Dead Freight which I think was the highlight episode last year but with the way things are at now, it may be sooner that we see an episode of that caliber. Or maybe it will just stay on this even keel of tension as things move to their inevitable conclusion.

And now a bit of musings on the show involving a bit of spoiler/speculation.

So, all we have seen of the future is that Walter is still alive and returns to ABQ with some mission in mind. There are 5 episodes left. Do you think most of the characters are going to survive until the last or second to last episode and then start getting offed? Half live, half die? Almost everyone lives? The current speculation is most die with people hoping that Jesse is one of the few to survive but it seems unlikely. That said, with only 5 episodes to go, do you think the writers/creators would really wait until the end to start killing people off? I have a feeling it might start sooner with one major character after the next biting the bullet a few episodes in a row so as to show more of the fallout for each loss and keep escalating the situation.

Or do you think most everyone can stay alive for another 3 episodes and keep raising the stakes and stretching the situation further? If you look at it like that, I could see the writers being able to keep everyone alive until that point. Right now, the person most in danger of being killed is Pinkman because of where he is at when this episode ended but that could be overcome and left to simmer. And yet, if you get there with mostly everyone in tact, is it really going to be that big a deal to start whacking a bunch of them?

If instead most of the characters actually survive at the end, would you be satisified or does the show now require multiple deaths to meet expectations? Just something I've been thinking about today on the show.



You know, I almost feel as if Jesse has to die.  He's the most volatile, unstable character in the entire show, and he's been saved so many times simply because Walt sticks his neck out for him.  With Walt finally in a position opposing him, I can't see Jesse staying safe for the remainder of the season.


I see next week's episode, "Rabid Dog", as being the episode where Walt begins losing control over the situation.  Clearly his home has already been invaded by Jesse kicking-in the door and tossing gasoline all over the place.  Walt is no longer able to keep his home as a safe haven for his family, and somehow Walt Jr. is becoming aware of not knowing everything, if the preview for next week's episode is any indication.


The 3rd to last episode is titled "Ozymandias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias)", after a poem that has an overarching message of "the inevitable decline of all leaders, and of the empires they build, however mighty in their own time".  Walt is already losing control of those around him, and he's running out of allies.  I don't think we'll see a major character taking a trip to Belise until this episode, and i'm still conflicted as to how many people I expect to get killed.  If I were to guess, besides Walt, I'd say Hank will die from his attempt to capture Walt at any cost, Jesse's irrational actions will finally catch up with him, and Skyler will be collateral damage. 


Regardless, I've enjoyed every episode so far, and can't wait to see what twists and turns they throw us through next.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 27, 2013, 01:12:13 AM
Finally got around to watching Cowboy Bebop (I know, right?). Holy CRAP, people. SO GOOD.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 27, 2013, 08:32:44 AM
Finally got around to watching Cowboy Bebop (I know, right?). Holy CRAP, people. SO GOOD.

You make me want to watch it again, if anything, just for the music.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on August 27, 2013, 12:21:58 PM
Finally got around to watching Cowboy Bebop (I know, right?). Holy CRAP, people. SO GOOD.

Cowboy Bebop is the only anime I can tell someone is good without the qualifier "for an anime".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 27, 2013, 12:48:14 PM
Finally got around to watching Cowboy Bebop (I know, right?). Holy CRAP, people. SO GOOD.

Glad to see you're enjoying it. Just enjoy the episodic episodes while they last. IMO, 4 out of the 5 "plot" episodes (the Julia/Vicious/Spike ones) kind of suck (particularly the anti-climatic ending). Thankfully, the rest of the series more than makes up for it.

Incidentally, look forward to that series coming out on Blu Ray from Funimation later next year.  :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 27, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
Heh. I wouldn't say there has been a shocking or unreal moment yet like, say, the One Minute episode or Face/Off episode. So far, it has just been a steady flow of tension as the dominoes start falling one after the other. Not getting too high or too low.

That said, I think next episode or the 5th episode in will be the one that might launch this season into the stratosphere. It was the 5th episode in last time that we got Dead Freight which I think was the highlight episode last year but with the way things are at now, it may be sooner that we see an episode of that caliber. Or maybe it will just stay on this even keel of tension as things move to their inevitable conclusion.

And now a bit of musings on the show involving a bit of spoiler/speculation.

So, all we have seen of the future is that Walter is still alive and returns to ABQ with some mission in mind. There are 5 episodes left. Do you think most of the characters are going to survive until the last or second to last episode and then start getting offed? Half live, half die? Almost everyone lives? The current speculation is most die with people hoping that Jesse is one of the few to survive but it seems unlikely. That said, with only 5 episodes to go, do you think the writers/creators would really wait until the end to start killing people off? I have a feeling it might start sooner with one major character after the next biting the bullet a few episodes in a row so as to show more of the fallout for each loss and keep escalating the situation.

Or do you think most everyone can stay alive for another 3 episodes and keep raising the stakes and stretching the situation further? If you look at it like that, I could see the writers being able to keep everyone alive until that point. Right now, the person most in danger of being killed is Pinkman because of where he is at when this episode ended but that could be overcome and left to simmer. And yet, if you get there with mostly everyone in tact, is it really going to be that big a deal to start whacking a bunch of them?

If instead most of the characters actually survive at the end, would you be satisified or does the show now require multiple deaths to meet expectations? Just something I've been thinking about today on the show.



You know, I almost feel as if Jesse has to die.  He's the most volatile, unstable character in the entire show, and he's been saved so many times simply because Walt sticks his neck out for him.  With Walt finally in a position opposing him, I can't see Jesse staying safe for the remainder of the season.


I see next week's episode, "Rabid Dog", as being the episode where Walt begins losing control over the situation.  Clearly his home has already been invaded by Jesse kicking-in the door and tossing gasoline all over the place.  Walt is no longer able to keep his home as a safe haven for his family, and somehow Walt Jr. is becoming aware of not knowing everything, if the preview for next week's episode is any indication.


The 3rd to last episode is titled "Ozymandias (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozymandias)", after a poem that has an overarching message of "the inevitable decline of all leaders, and of the empires they build, however mighty in their own time".  Walt is already losing control of those around him, and he's running out of allies.  I don't think we'll see a major character taking a trip to Belise until this episode, and i'm still conflicted as to how many people I expect to get killed.  If I were to guess, besides Walt, I'd say Hank will die from his attempt to capture Walt at any cost, Jesse's irrational actions will finally catch up with him, and Skyler will be collateral damage. 


Regardless, I've enjoyed every episode so far, and can't wait to see what twists and turns they throw us through next.


Hah. After my post, I decided to look up and see if I could find out what the next episode titles were and turns out they are all announced. Next week's title is Rabid Dog and if you have a rabid dog, you generally have to kill it so it really seems like Jesse might be going down. However, it is possible the rabid dog could refer to Hank and his relentless pursuit or possibly the neo-nazi meth operation. You just never know.

Still, Jesse has been the right hand man of Walt since the beginning really. They've gone through a lot stuff together and saved each other countless times. Even if they have grown apart, at one point, Walt referred to Jesse as a son when Walt Jr. was looking after him. I really felt the desert scene with Walt recommending a change for Jesse was a genuine moment with Walt actually caring about Jesse even if the advice did fit Walt's agenda. There's been a lot of talk of the horrible actions Walt has committed to get to where he is. Would him killing Jesse be the worst of all? The final damning of Walt? And yet, if he does, I don't see much blowback towards Walt. It almost seems like it would help solve even more problems he's currently facing.

The sixth episode is title Ozymandias like you mentioned and I agree that something big happens to cause Walt to flee using the new identity resource and his empire/control crumbles like the death of Skylar or a family member. The seventh episode is Granite State which ties into the New Hampshire plates and suggests a flash forward as we see what life is like living on the run and what happened to his family if he abandoned them in Ozymandis. He's probably keeping tabs on them and something happens that he has to go back. The final episode would be Walt's last stand and the flash forwards as he returns to ABQ.

The theme of the season is Remember My Name. But which name? Walt or Hiesenberg? Is that why he returns? After losing everyone he built up, he goes back to unleash a one-man war against the Neo-Nazi Meth Empire and once more stamp his name in the desert? I think back to early on in the show, Hank gave Walt Jr. a book about how some law officials brought down some drug kingpin saying that he wanted Walt Jr. to read it because people often know the names of the bad guys but not of the good guys who brought them down. The point of Ozymandias was about trying to build great works that would last after death and achieve immortality. Might that be part of why Walt returns? To try and achieve that immortality?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 05, 2013, 10:07:50 AM
When you look at Futurama's central conceit not as a show in which someone was sent forward by 1000 years, but as "love, loss and the journey" it really makes the entire series look different.

The first and final episodes cement that point very very well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 05, 2013, 11:30:20 PM
It was so beautiful! T_T
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on September 05, 2013, 11:32:48 PM
Was TVman your old username?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 05, 2013, 11:34:44 PM
It was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 06, 2013, 10:12:33 AM
When you look at Futurama's central conceit not as a show in which someone was sent forward by 1000 years, but as "love, loss and the journey" it really makes the entire series look different.

The first and final episodes cement that point very very well.

Reading your post reminded me of the episode Jurassic Bark about Fry's dog which I think falls right in line with your theme and was also a very melancholy ending to an episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 06, 2013, 11:33:22 AM
It was a horrible ending to an episode.  It's all "Oh, things worked out okay after all!  Oh.... nope.  Life sucks."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 07, 2013, 02:45:37 PM
I thought it was sad, but in a touching way. A beautiful tragedy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 09, 2013, 12:06:45 PM
As much as I love Breaking Bad, I always seem to forget about it till the day it airs. Maybe it's some mental gymnastics that I've done, but I seriously don't understand how I'm not waking up sweating, looking at the clock impatiently for another episode.

The greatest thing about this show is that you are forced to think about all the possible outcomes and last night's episode was no different. It's the greatest quality about the show. If something could realistically happen, then it happens. Motives are key and for that reason, the show hit levels of entertainment that I simply wasn't expecting. Brilliant.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 09, 2013, 03:30:49 PM
When you look at Futurama's central conceit not as a show in which someone was sent forward by 1000 years, but as "love, loss and the journey" it really makes the entire series look different.

The first and final episodes cement that point very very well.

Reading your post reminded me of the episode Jurassic Bark about Fry's dog which I think falls right in line with your theme and was also a very melancholy ending to an episode.

There's several (nearly all of the best episodes in fact) that fit that theme. Jurassic Bark, the pilot, the finale, The Luck of the Fryrish, the episode only 2 weeks ago about the musical tone and spending more time with his family....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on September 10, 2013, 11:33:52 PM
As much as I love Breaking Bad, I always seem to forget about it till the day it airs. Maybe it's some mental gymnastics that I've done, but I seriously don't understand how I'm not waking up sweating, looking at the clock impatiently for another episode.

The greatest thing about this show is that you are forced to think about all the possible outcomes and last night's episode was no different. It's the greatest quality about the show. If something could realistically happen, then it happens. Motives are key and for that reason, the show hit levels of entertainment that I simply wasn't expecting. Brilliant.
Game of thrones is better! ::) pirated all 3 seasons! :P:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 11, 2013, 12:01:15 PM
GoT is awesome. I won't argue that.

Better? They are very different shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on September 11, 2013, 03:49:09 PM
Finally finished House of Cards (U.S. version). Awesome! Not perfect but damn good in many respects.


Also, Michael Kelly is my Best Under-Appreciated Actor of 2013. Had a big role in House Of Cards and pleasantly popped up in Man of Steel and Now You See Me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on September 11, 2013, 06:27:15 PM
Been watching it for a while, ARROW, pretty good stuff. but can't wait for agents of S.H.I.E.L.D to come out!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 11, 2013, 06:51:58 PM
Arrow is a funny show. I do like it. I thought it had a very good second half and found its legs and got a good handle on its characters. It had some good intrigue and mysteries going on and Malcolm Merlyn made an excellent adversary. And yet, I also have a weird disconnect with it. It seemed to be this odd blend of Batman Begins and the Sam Raimi Spiderman movie mixed together making it all seem a bit familiar.

Moreover, I just don't seem to feel any connection in the leads of Oliver Queen and Laural Lance. I find I'm more interested and excited with the other characters. As silly and stupid as her lines can be sometimes, I like the Felicity character a whole lot more than either of the leads. Still, with the season finale doing things I did not expect, I'm most curious to see where the show goes from here as it will no longer have the same vibe as before and should be able to forge itself an even more distinct personality.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on September 11, 2013, 09:42:33 PM
Gurren Lagann

Is it possible for a TV show to soothe possibly-clinical depression? Because this actually did it for a while.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 11, 2013, 10:07:39 PM
Arrow is a funny show. I do like it. I thought it had a very good second half and found its legs and got a good handle on its characters. It had some good intrigue and mysteries going on and Malcolm Merlyn made an excellent adversary. And yet, I also have a weird disconnect with it. It seemed to be this odd blend of Batman Begins and the Sam Raimi Spiderman movie mixed together making it all seem a bit familiar.

Moreover, I just don't seem to feel any connection in the leads of Oliver Queen and Laural Lance. I find I'm more interested and excited with the other characters. As silly and stupid as her lines can be sometimes, I like the Felicity character a whole lot more than either of the leads. Still, with the season finale doing things I did not expect, I'm most curious to see where the show goes from here as it will no longer have the same vibe as before and should be able to forge itself an even more distinct personality.

Well one thing you can expect is that there will be more than a cameo from The Flash, who is also getting his own series and this may all be part of DC's Cinematic Universe, but no idea if they will play their parts in the upcoming Justice League Movie or not.

But I'm looking forward to Arrow s2 even if I am a little skeptical of the above spoilered parts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on September 11, 2013, 11:32:47 PM
still think agents of S.H.I.E.L.D will be better!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 12, 2013, 10:31:41 AM

But I'm looking forward to Arrow s2 even if I am a little skeptical of the above spoilered parts.

I know what you mean. After basically establishing a realistic world with no superpowered heroes, they are now going to change that up and start introducing such things. I'm curious to see how it works out because I really like the job they'd done so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 14, 2013, 01:02:12 AM
Avatar: Legend of Korra 2x01-02

Well so far it looks like Unalaq is gonna be the main villain, just like Tarlok he creates conflict to seize more power for himself. I definitely bet on that it's him controlling the spirits all along.

Otherwise -- great start.

New animation studio is kinda bad, way too animey and gets off model too often. The art despite occasionally wonky animation is still gorgeous though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 17, 2013, 05:55:54 PM
It's a good thing that the normal animation studio will be back for Book 3 and 4. Also, I hold the belief that he isn't a villain, just a dude who wants a good thing but does it to a bad extreme, similar to Tarrlok. I doubt they'd be this obvious about the villain this early.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2013, 05:13:47 AM
I'm finally caught up in Breaking Bad. So, Jesse is a meth cooking slave now. Jeez, what else can the producers do to the poor guy with two episodes left? Personally, I think he'll get revenge on Meth Damon. I'm on the fence over whether Walt saves Jesse after what happened in the desert. There's a chance he'll find out Jesse is alive from Lydia (or just running into him while doing his Scarface thing).

I kind of want to see some atonement from Walt, in general, but especially regarding his relationship with Jesse and I think there's a chance there might be with the way "Ozymandias" played out and Walt kind of realizing just how far he's fallen (goodness, that phone call). While Jesse probably would have ended up dead eventually without Walt blackmailing him into cooking meth, it's a terrible shame what ended up happening and that Walt, of all people, was his mentor/father-figure. Even though Mike wasn't a model citizen by any stretch of the imagination, he was a better mentor than Walt ever was. Walt and Jesse's relationship is complicated to say the least. I think Walt genuinely cared about Jesse in his weird sociopathic way and felt especially betrayed by Jesse despite all the things he put Jesse through. Walt manipulated and used Jesse for his own ends, just like Walt manipulated and used everyone else. Sure, anyone who really cares about someone would never hurt them intentionally, but try telling that to a sociopath. That says more about how evil Walt has become and how conflicted the Walt and Heisenberg personalities are. On one hand, he desires to be the king who is rich, admired, and respected for his intelligence and cunning. On the other, he still wants to be a simple family man. He learned the hard way that Walter White cannot be both and now he is neither. At this point, Walt is well past the point of redemption as nothing can reconcile the sins he's committed, but I think there is room for some atonement. That's what he returned to Albuquerque for. Up to this point, I rooted for Walt because he's the protagonist even though he's a pretty shitty person and as a viewer, I can see through all his BS. In the final two episodes, I'm mainly rooting for some kind of atonement and I'm really not sure it's coming.

I haven't decided whether I think Lydia lives or dies though I'm leaning toward the latter just to tie up loose ends. It seems pretty obvious that the two flash-forwards in Season Five are probably leading up to Walt going full Heisenberg on Jack's gang of white supremacists, then again this show tends to be unpredictable so who knows at this point. I'm a little disappointed that white supremacist Nazis are the show's final villains because using Nazis as villains seems too easy for this show. Maybe the producers thought only Nazis can be more evil than Walt at this point so this is their last ditch effort to keep viewers on Walt's side for the final two episodes. Before watching any of the second half of Season Five I originally thought Walt would be trying to save Hank from Declan's gang. Boy, was I off...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 18, 2013, 05:19:48 AM
At least he still saved Skyler from jail for what it's worth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 18, 2013, 08:34:01 AM
What azeke said.

That's what the phone call was all about.[/spoiler.]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2013, 09:03:32 AM
I gathered that much. They weren't subtle about it with Walt almost breaking down on the phone. Coupled with that disturbing shot of Walt looking down on a frightened Skyler and Walt Jr. after the fight, I felt it was pretty clear that Walt was finally seeing how much his actions have affected those he cares about so he takes full responsibility for it, knowing the police were listening. Skyler is presumably off the hook.

I read an opinion piece suggesting that this is another power play by Walt to assert his dominance. By exonerating Skyler, he's taunting the police by admitting guilt and getting away with it so really he wins again. I'm not sure I buy that. I thought the conclusion the audience was supposed to have was the most obvious one. Walt, in a very small and very late act of atonement (small only in the way that it was literally the least he could do), finally does something that's actually best for his family in that moment even though he's lost them at this point. Still, that leaves Jesse who Walt saw as family yet sucker punched right before giving him a death sentence. No longer in the heat of the moment, I'm curious if he actually feels bad about it. That said, I wonder if Walt is coming back to Albuquerque to deal with Jack's gang as retribution for his money, Hank, or Jesse. Maybe all three?

On a related note, Jack is played by Michael Bowen who I recognized, but couldn't immediately identify. He played Buck "[who's] here to ****" in Kill Bill. I'm going to be honest, knowing that takes a little bit away from Jack's character. It's kind of like when I found out Uncle Phil from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air was the voice of The Shredder. Every time I see The Shredder, I just imagine him literally throwing DJ Jazzy Jeff out the front door of a mansion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2013, 06:48:05 PM
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Still, that leaves Jesse who Walt saw as family yet sucker punched right before giving him a death sentence. No longer in the heat of the moment, I'm curious if he actually feels bad about it

Jesse could have walked away with a fat sack of cash and all of this could have been avoided. Jesse is a dumb ass as far as i am concerned.

Hank could have kept spinning his wheels till he eventually decided to just live in defeat. Jesse could have stayed a new life anywhere with his new little family. Walt could have retired a carwash owner and every lives, maybe not happily ever after, but they all live and fury get to move on with their lives.

And I fully expect Walt to go to war for everything and onto on top of all that, the Heisenberg name, the legacy, the legend.

But we shall see. 2 weeks left.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 18, 2013, 08:03:35 PM
Hank couldn't have just sat around and did nothing.  It's not the kind of man he is.  He wouldn't beg to save his own life, why the heck would he let the most notorious drug kingpin in the ABQ off?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2013, 10:29:13 PM
He had no hard evidence and Walt has the video confession. His hardest evidence is a known drug offender's word which wouldn't stand a chance in court against Mr. White's squeaky clean record and sympathetic situation.

As long as Walt kept his nose clean by staying retired, and kept slipping Hank's family money when they needed it (and couldn't refuse/didn't know where it was coming from), eventually Hank would have to just let that one go. He was the head of the ABQ DEA and directly implicated in Walts video. Either he lets it go and stop spending valuable time invesitgating off the books, or he makes his move and risk going down with Walt.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 18, 2013, 10:34:09 PM
That's a very logical explanation - but, again, just not the kind of man Hank is.

Remember, Hank turned down a pretty significant promotion because he wanted to catch Heisenberg.  Hank is the kind of guy that would (and did) go down in flames to get his man.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2013, 10:50:55 PM
Walt lucked out way too many times at the end there. If this wasn't fiction, he probably would have been caught or killed ages ago, but even if he got to this point, being in a plaza with an intimidating looking man just waiting for his daughter was perhaps too convenient. Hank and Jesse would have outsmarted and caught Walt right there.

I'm not sure I agree with the idea of other characters just living with Walt's sins and accepting their fate. That line of thinking is strikingly similar to "Oh, but deep down he really loves me" or some other flimsy reasoning for accepting abuse or settling for unfortunate circumstances. If Jesse is the moral center of the show, there's no way he puts his head down and simply lives with Walt's atrocities. If someone was that abusive despite a few niceties here and there, would you be okay with that? Same goes for Hank as a law enforcement official. If we as a society just lived with defeat, we should have stopped trying to catch thieves, kidnappers, murderers, rapists, pedophiles etc. long ago and chalked it up to "Meh, **** happens."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2013, 11:00:56 PM
Jessie could have just taken off and dealt with his issue using a bottomless sack of blue meth.

Hank would never forget, but bide his time always looking for a way to catch Walt dead-to-rights.
The truth would burn in him till no end, but eventually he would have to just move on, even if he always left a candle burning throughout the nite for Heisenberg.

Walt would keep his nose clean and just keep laundering his massive fortune under the radar until eventually he passed from his cancer (assuming it came back at all that is).

It's not what I or anyone expected to happen, as that would be the happy ending that we knew was not coming, but it's a likely scenario that could have happened if Jessie hadn't knock down the first domino.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 19, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
I gathered that much. They weren't subtle about it with Walt almost breaking down on the phone. Coupled with that disturbing shot of Walt looking down on a frightened Skyler and Walt Jr. after the fight, I felt it was pretty clear that Walt was finally seeing how much his actions have affected those he cares about so he takes full responsibility for it, knowing the police were listening. Skyler is presumably off the hook.

I read an opinion piece suggesting that this is another power play by Walt to assert his dominance. By exonerating Skyler, he's taunting the police by admitting guilt and getting away with it so really he wins again. I'm not sure I buy that. I thought the conclusion the audience was supposed to have was the most obvious one. Walt, in a very small and very late act of atonement (small only in the way that it was literally the least he could do), finally does something that's actually best for his family in that moment even though he's lost them at this point. Still, that leaves Jesse who Walt saw as family yet sucker punched right before giving him a death sentence. No longer in the heat of the moment, I'm curious if he actually feels bad about it. That said, I wonder if Walt is coming back to Albuquerque to deal with Jack's gang as retribution for his money, Hank, or Jesse. Maybe all three?

On a related note, Jack is played by Michael Bowen who I recognized, but couldn't immediately identify. He played Buck "[who's] here to ****" in Kill Bill. I'm going to be honest, knowing that takes a little bit away from Jack's character. It's kind of like when I found out Uncle Phil from The Fresh Prince of Bel Air was the voice of The Shredder. Every time I see The Shredder, I just imagine him literally throwing DJ Jazzy Jeff out the front door of a mansion.

the Michael Bowen thing...I was looking for him, but he's so into that character i didn't recognize him. I was just pointing him out on an old 80s movie Night of the Comet to a friend. What i hadn't realized was i saw him twice that day. It took me like 4 episodes to recognize him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 19, 2013, 06:40:57 PM
Breaking Bad.

Adrock. I would admit that it seemed convenient to have someone with his daughter during the meet up, but in all actuality, Jesse was scared. He knows exactly how far Walt can go. Paranoia did the rest.

I'm not sure what is going to happen. I honestly don't care, in the sense that thinking about just makes the wait worse. Whatever happens I'm sure it'll be true to the character driven story line.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 19, 2013, 07:19:19 PM
Poor Hank. He was my favorite character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 19, 2013, 07:52:56 PM
Breaking Bad.

Adrock. I would admit that it seemed convenient to have someone with his daughter during the meet up, but in all actuality, Jesse was scared. He knows exactly how far Walt can go. Paranoia did the rest.

I'm not sure what is going to happen. I honestly don't care, in the sense that thinking about just makes the wait worse. Whatever happens I'm sure it'll be true to the character driven story line.

Yeah, I don't think Jessie would have made it to the phone.  *something* would have spooked him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 20, 2013, 05:13:49 PM
Person of Interest begins on Tuesday. I am READY.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 20, 2013, 05:17:08 PM
Brooklyn Nine Nine was actually entertaining and kinda funny, and I really expected it to be stupid and unfunny (like Dads - new Seth McFarlane show).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 20, 2013, 07:31:51 PM
Another great episode of The Legend of Korra. Starting to doubt my theory that Unaloq is a good guy...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 20, 2013, 07:54:11 PM
Not really liking Beware the Batman. Anarky is a terrible villain written by a 15 year old with a voice to match. CGI animation is never a good look and it doesn't change here. Batman sounds awful with dialogue making him come off as a prick all the time. The new Alfred is interesting, but lacks that classiness that old Alfred has.

If this is some sort of a year one Batman, he is way too cocky with far too many gadgets.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 21, 2013, 02:14:11 AM
Another great episode of The Legend of Korra. Starting to doubt my theory that Unaloq is a good guy...
I liked it, but Tenzin and siblings squabbling was kinda annoying. All of them are in their fifties by now, how come they haven't settled down all arguments between them? Same with Bolin and Mako dialogue.

But i like water tribe Civil War story, it's becoming way more interesting than i expected.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 21, 2013, 02:30:11 AM
Probably because they've been off doing their own thing. It looks like Tenzin hasn't even really interacted with his two other siblings that often due to the responsibility of being one of the last Airbenders.

What was wrong with Mako/Bolin? They didn't seem to be mad at each other to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 21, 2013, 02:46:29 AM
I meant that Bolin stuff was equally annoying.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 22, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
I don't know why I keep forgetting that eating while watching Fringe is a bad idea. Two feet parasitic worms started emerging from people's mouths. Fantastic...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 22, 2013, 11:17:48 PM
Breaking Bad: Neon/10

I've wanted to get into this series for awhile now, and Target had season one on sale for $20.  The down side is that season one is a whopping seven episodes. :(

Anyway, this series is something different.  There's a lot of "down time", but you're always waiting for the next thing to happen.  Highly recommended.

Where'd all that down time go? :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 23, 2013, 03:05:55 AM
Some of the shots from the latest episode:
(http://i056.radikal.ru/1309/56/94ab7a013782.jpg) (http://i056.radikal.ru/1309/56/94ab7a013782.jpg)
(http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1309/f6/e8bcd68b719b.jpg) (http://s017.radikal.ru/i429/1309/f6/e8bcd68b719b.jpg)
It says all, really.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 23, 2013, 08:28:47 AM
So much for that phone call last week. And I definitely was not expecting Saul to get out of that van. A round of applause for Robert Forster by the way.

(Some Spoilers)

I liked "Granite State" quite a bit (in addition to New Hampshire's nickname, it signified to me Walt hit rock bottom and perhaps, at the end, Walter White and Heisenberg's black becoming more of a gray) though it feels like "Ozymandias" was the real finale. This episode was more like part one of an epilogue, played perfectly and calmly relative to all the oh-**** that happened last week. It's hard to imagine any true happy endings. Skyler may be absolved of Walt's crimes, Jesse may not be a meth-cooling slave anymore, and Marie may find out where Hank's body is buried. Those are consolation prizes at best comparatively to what they've lost. Each of them is irreparably worse and broken. I think most viewers would have been ready and willing to accept "Ozymandias" as an appropriate ending. Walt's phone call exonerating Skyler seemed like it worked until Saul explained why that was a total nope.

Instead, we get more Deus Ex Machina and Walt's extraordinary luck (seeing Elliot and Gretchen on TV and bailing before cops storm the bar) which, at this point, is a rather minor flaw for a show as strong as Breaking Bad. I suppose it works for dramatic tension. It seems like the writers "tried on" various endings in this last batch of episodes: Walt retiring, Hank catching Walt, Walt going into exile (after losing his family and keeping some of his money with no way to give them any). They all worked in one way or another. If it wasn't for the season premiere, we wouldn't know Walt was in New Hampshire (seemingly the opposite of New Mexico) for months and the show could have ended last week, shocking as it was.

I'm glad it didn't though. It's ingenious how the season and show is coming full circle. Walt returning with a vengeance to take care of unfinished business works better for his character arc even if being separated from his family with literally a barrel full of cash is more ironic. The writers just had to twist the knife into Jesse a little more, and more than anything else next week, I'm interested in what happens to him. Surely, meth-cooking slave isn't his ultimate fate, but he doesn't have much left in the tank, physically and emotionally. Adopting Brock has roughly a zero percent chance of happening and wouldn't work in the world of Breaking Bad. Jesse is still a wanted man, having assisted in most of Walt's crimes. Still, I want Jesse to get away because even though he hasn't paid his debt to society, it feels like he's paid for his crimes. It would be nice to see him find some peace somewhere. Maybe he can manage a Cinnabon with Saul.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2013, 02:33:45 PM
Dexter - series finale

Is it possible to retcon a show back 4 seasons and start over?

If you have never watched this show before and wanted to get into it, just stop after the excellent season 4 and then pay a game of make believe till you get to q.v. ending that makes sense for you.
Seriously, just turn the series off and walk away. Preserve every positive thought you have about the show because that was as good as it got.

The final season... seasons are absolutely horrible and the final episode is stupid beyond belief.


Dexter murders a man in the police station interrogation room, to which he no longer worked, on camera in "self defense" when even on camera it doesn't look like self defense. They address this kinda, but shrug it off...
Dexter pulls his sister's life support, to which no nurse responded, and then proceeded to wheel her lifeless corpse out of the hospital, unnoticed and onto his boat, that was docked at the hospital (!?), and gave her a burial at sea... in the middle of a hurricane BTW
AND somehow made it back to shore, after wrecking his boat at sea (to be presumed dead) and joining the lumberjack trade somewhere in middle America (or wherever he was at).
In doing this, he ditched his young son in the hands of a serial murderess that he had literally known for months and had previously sent to prison (because she threatened to kill his sister). Had her take him away from his family (grandparents, sister and brother) to live with this lady in Argentina as if she had always wanted a son.


I could seriously go on and on and on, but I'm typing on my phone and it's really not worth the effort.

Season 5 should have been Dexter fucking up and getting caught by no other than Deb. Final season should have been him living like a boss murdering fools in prison.
That would have been much more satisfying that the garbage that we got.

Showtime needs to grow some balls and tell the story, not pander to ratings and demographics.

Dexter s8 - 2/10
It would have scored less if it wasn't for Masuka's hot daughter showing the goods ;)

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 23, 2013, 03:13:32 PM
I'm not too happy about Dexter's finale either. It seems like it was rushed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 23, 2013, 06:03:53 PM
So much for that phone call last week. And I definitely was not expecting Saul to get out of that van. A round of applause for Robert Forster by the way.

(Some Spoilers)

I liked "Granite State" quite a bit (in addition to New Hampshire's nickname, it signified to me Walt hit rock bottom and perhaps, at the end, Walter White and Heisenberg's black becoming more of a gray) though it feels like "Ozymandias" was the real finale. This episode was more like part one of an epilogue, played perfectly and calmly relative to all the oh-**** that happened last week. It's hard to imagine any true happy endings. Skyler may be absolved of Walt's crimes, Jesse may not be a meth-cooling slave anymore, and Marie may find out where Hank's body is buried. Those are consolation prizes at best comparatively to what they've lost. Each of them is irreparably worse and broken. I think most viewers would have been ready and willing to accept "Ozymandias" as an appropriate ending. Walt's phone call exonerating Skyler seemed like it worked until Saul explained why that was a total nope.

Instead, we get more Deus Ex Machina and Walt's extraordinary luck (seeing Elliot and Gretchen on TV and bailing before cops storm the bar) which, at this point, is a rather minor flaw for a show as strong as Breaking Bad. I suppose it works for dramatic tension. It seems like the writers "tried on" various endings in this last batch of episodes: Walt retiring, Hank catching Walt, Walt going into exile (after losing his family and keeping some of his money with no way to give them any). They all worked in one way or another. If it wasn't for the season premiere, we wouldn't know Walt was in New Hampshire (seemingly the opposite of New Mexico) for months and the show could have ended last week, shocking as it was.

I'm glad it didn't though. It's ingenious how the season and show is coming full circle. Walt returning with a vengeance to take care of unfinished business works better for his character arc even if being separated from his family with literally a barrel full of cash is more ironic. The writers just had to twist the knife into Jesse a little more, and more than anything else next week, I'm interested in what happens to him. Surely, meth-cooking slave isn't his ultimate fate, but he doesn't have much left in the tank, physically and emotionally. Adopting Brock has roughly a zero percent chance of happening and wouldn't work in the world of Breaking Bad. Jesse is still a wanted man, having assisted in most of Walt's crimes. Still, I want Jesse to get away because even though he hasn't paid his debt to society, it feels like he's paid for his crimes. It would be nice to see him find some peace somewhere. Maybe he can manage a Cinnabon with Saul.

I have my theories but I just couldn't careless what happens. If he goes back and kills everyone, awesome. If he goes back and gets caught, awesome. If he goes back and gets killed, awesome. No matter what happens, it's going to be interesting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 23, 2013, 07:25:10 PM
What if he wakes up and it's all been one long chemo-induced coma? :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on September 23, 2013, 08:41:37 PM
What if he wakes up and it's all been one long chemo-induced coma? :D


I also thought of this.  I would gladly accept a ridiculous conclusion like this if just to see the fallout and millions of obsessed fans cry out in rage towards Vince Gilligan.


I'm with Stogi on this one: The writers of Breaking Bad have done much better at crafting this funnel to strain the characters of this show through to direct them towards their unfortunate conclusion. 


Only comment I'll add about Granite state: When the theme music played in the background as Walt begins seething in the bar hearing Gretchen & Elliot downplay his role in Grey Matter, my hair stood on edge.  Such a satisfying way to see him decide to go out on his own terms.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 23, 2013, 10:42:48 PM
A troll ending would be hilarious. I really like the show, but I haven't invested as much in it as most people. I watched most of it in a matter of weeks a few months ago thanks to Netflix. If the writers were to go the "It was all a dream" route, I'd expect it to be Malcolm in the Middle related.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2013, 11:45:09 PM
Here is a speculated ending that I saw earlier.

Quote
He is going to kill Jack and his crew, give all his money to his family (if they want it or not), fake his own death, remarry a controlling wife named Lois, and have 5 boys.... Francis, Reese, Malcolm, Duey and Jamie.

But I think it would also be kinds funny if let's say Walt gets shot at, but just as the bullet is traveling toward him in slow motion, his entire life starts to flash before his eyes. all the way up to the moment where he wakes up in the hospital and realizes that it was all a dream. Heisenberg was a figment of his imagination, Gus and all of that never happened. His cancer was in remission and his family was happy. He gets up has breakfast with his family and then drives to work... in his Chrystler 300. He's flipping stations and flips past a channel that play Biggie Smalls "It was all a dream..." and then parks right infront of a building where his name is on the reserved sign "Founder & CEO". He looks up to the top of the building and in large lettering there is a sign that reads "Grey Matter"
that's when he snaps out of it. you see the bullet hit him in between the eyes and the screen goes black.
[/scene]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on September 24, 2013, 12:09:21 AM
I'm not too happy about Dexter's finale either. It seems like it was rushed.

I'd argue the series went downhill after Season 3 (Trinity).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2013, 12:30:34 AM
I thought Trinity was s4
and s3 was Jimmy Smits

either way, post Trinity is where Dexter should have gone off the rails.
That was really where the show took a major downward slide.
Everything after Trinity should have happened differently.

edit:
Is no one else pissed off at investing the time to see this series through even though it's been increasingly horrible for the past 4 seasons, only to have the writers break shatter the suspension of disbelief and dance on it's fragmented pieces. I'm sure the majority of us stuck around in hopes that it would go somewhere, and that there would be resolution for the characters. I hope they make the rumored spin-off so that we may all collectively ignore it. s8 was such a huge let-down that I'm just gonna forget that it happened and try to never speak of it again.

Showtime failed it's audience on this one. If you haven't seen it yet, just do yourself a favor and don't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 24, 2013, 03:18:37 AM
I only watched S1 and bowed out there. I saw everything i needed to see with Dexter there, and didn't really feel a desire to go back. Same with Misfits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 24, 2013, 05:13:26 AM
What if he wakes up and it's all been one long chemo-induced coma? :D

(http://i.imgur.com/h5lFH1w.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 24, 2013, 10:43:02 AM
I only watched S1 and bowed out there. I saw everything i needed to see with Dexter there, and didn't really feel a desire to go back. Same with Misfits.

Three of the first four seasons are pretty good. 1, 2 & especially 4. Season 3 was good, but everything post s4 was questionable. Season 8 was so bad that seasons 5-7 shouldn't have even happened, just erase it all.

As far as Misfits is concerned the first 2 seasons were good.... basically any episode with Robert Sheehan in it, once he left the show was ****. Once they swapped powers it was already down hill from there, so he exited at a good time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on September 24, 2013, 10:23:23 PM
What if he wakes up and it's all been one long chemo-induced coma? :D

(http://i.imgur.com/h5lFH1w.jpg)


...At least it wasn't a breakfast joke.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2013, 01:43:51 AM
Marvel's Agents of SHIELD

quick review - not setting the TV world on fire but was more than a decent pilot.
I'm sure rating will track really high and some will not be interested, but I think it accomplished what it set out to do, and that is be an interesting family show that picks up right off to the side of where the movies left off.

Some of the jokes fell flat, but some of them I laughed at, and even though this wasn't everything I was HYPED up for it to be, I will be watching week to week because I'm not reallly sure what I expected for a primetime ABC show.

bottomline. I'm in though the first season as long as it remains at the very least as entertaining as this episode.

a few spoilers:
- It appears that Agent Coulson is possibly a Life Model Decoy and likely did die in the Avengers.
- The show ties in with events from Iron Man 3 (Extremis) and not just The Avengers and all the movies that came before that.

Bonus:
(http://i.minus.com/iBCfa9g7q9NVL.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 25, 2013, 06:32:54 AM
Person of Interest: the most confident return to a new season i've seen in a while.

Root was absolutely on fire at the end. She knows that being in the mental hospital is just an inconvenience. The Machine has labelled her as a "analog interface" changing her to a black & yellow box in the process.... it's the little details that makes this show as good as it is.

I wished more people was into it (despite it being extremely popular).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2013, 10:18:15 AM
I've watched every episode, but I never picked up on most of the little intricacies like the color of her box or its meaning.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 25, 2013, 10:59:46 AM
Those boxes determine what the machine identifies the subject as:

Yellow: Know of the existence of the machine.
White: Under investigation.
Red: Possible threat to the machine.
Red/White: Threat to others.
Blue: Government agents.

Soon as Root says whether she's going to kill the psychiatrist the machine calculated his chance of death as being 76%. The details are in what the machine sees - that's where it notes right in the opening credits, where Root is shown that she is an Analog Interface.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2013, 11:07:19 AM
My overlooking of those detail are probably due to the fact that I surf the internet while watching TV most if the time so I will miss little details here and there.

Thanks for explaining though, now I'll now what to look for when those details pop up next time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 29, 2013, 06:41:42 AM
Agents of Shield - it took all of three minutes before it evolved into a "TV-friendly Fringe in the Marvel Universe".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 29, 2013, 08:41:47 AM
Legend of Korra: Civil War part II
Even i now have to admit that this is pretty inedaquate.
Part I had plot A with water tribe civil war and plot B with stupid fifty year olds bickering about the stuff long gone.
This time both halfs were pretty retarded. Plot A had the most obvious villain revelaiton and the most stupid investigation i've seen in while. Plot B had the most heavyhanded message for underschoolers that you shouldn't fight with your sibling. Felt like something even Nick jr would have rejected.

Beware the Batman: Control
Second very strong episode (first one would be the one with Magpie). I could be an easy target but i just enjoyed all that cheezy «awkward nerd romancing kungfu chick» with Jason.
Villain was pretty decent and creepy too, i guess .

Beware the Batman: Sacrifice
Aand we're back to 'Meh'.  That Anarky person isn't interesting at all. Nor is lady Shiva.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2013, 11:51:47 AM
Agree with you on Anarchy.  As I said before, they've totally turned him into Joker Lite.  I can't imagine a story where Anarchy would want to release a deadly toxin on people.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 29, 2013, 01:13:47 PM
Legend of Korra: Civil War part II
Even i now have to admit that this is pretty inedaquate.
Part I had plot A with water tribe civil war and plot B with stupid fifty year olds bickering about the stuff long gone.
This time both halfs were pretty retarded. Plot A had the most obvious villain revelaiton and the most stupid investigation i've seen in while. Plot B had the most heavyhanded message for underschoolers that you shouldn't fight with your sibling. Felt like something even Nick jr would have rejected.


And here I was thinking this was the best episode so far. :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2013, 08:59:43 PM
Can I just say, I think this is one of my favorite exchanges of the entire series:

"I would like to speak to the agent in charge of the Walter White investigation."
"May I ask who's calling?"
"Walter White."

Just perfect. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2013, 09:07:21 PM
I giggled when he pulled out the Marty Robbins tape. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2013, 10:13:46 PM
Breaking Bad: Neon/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on September 29, 2013, 10:22:29 PM
Goddamn.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 29, 2013, 10:23:54 PM
Yup.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 29, 2013, 10:26:05 PM
Djesse Unchained
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2013, 01:10:48 AM
I loved Breaking Bad, but it all felt like it ended too neatly.
I also think The Shield still holds the title for the most satisfying (and fucked up) final season.

I still give the series a 10/10 with all the highest recommendations though.
Virtual tie for favorite series ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 30, 2013, 02:00:21 AM
It definitely ended very neatly. Normally, I would dock a show points for that, but it was fitting. Walter White really is that smart so I wasn't taken out of the show when he literally thought of everything.

Anyway, as expected, the finale played out like an epilogue. They tied up every loose end that mattered. No, they never explained exactly why Walt sold his shares in Grey Matter. It doesn't really matter; what mattered was that he felt slighted and that was the start of everything. And Brock is going into foster care. They didn't need to show that happening. Sucks for him, but for Walt's narrative, it's fine to skip things like that. They hit all the important notes and that was all I really hoped for.

The scene between Walt and Skyler was absolutely perfect. I wasn't expecting Walt to be standing there when Skyler was talking to Marie. "I did it for me." That was one of the best character moments in the show and fitting for Walt's character arc. That admission doesn't magically fix everything between Walt and Skyler or make Walt's sins okay, but it was important for each of them. To finally admit that he wasn't really doing all that for his family (him first, them second) was really important for the finale. I wasn't sure they were going hit that note, but they did and the ending is better for it.

Meth Damon got what he deserved and that was awesome. Walt killing Jack before Jack could bargain with Walt's money was also awesome. Walt didn't care about the rest of the money. He killed Jack out of principle. I wish there was a little more between Walt and Jesse. Jesse choosing not to shoot Walt was an important character moment, but I wanted a little more. I suppose there couldn't be more than the simple nod Walt gave Jesse considering all that Walt did to Jesse (thought I did think for a second there that Jesse was going to back the car into Walt). It wasn't like they were going to hug it out and cry on each other's shoulders. Walt did tackle Jesse specifically to protect him from the machine gun fire (notably after realizing Jesse was a meth-cooking slave) when Walt easily could have let Jesse get shot the **** up which I took to mean that Walt did actually care about Jesse and he felt some remorse for what he did and saving Jesse was his way of trying to make up for it. Again, it doesn't make everything okay, but it fits into the theme of atonement that the entire episode had for the people close to Walt.

Typically, I'm pretty disappointed in endings of TV shows. I watch most shows on Netflix now so Breaking Bad was the first finale I've seen on the night the finale aired since Lost which was pretty weak. Breaking Bad's finale was particularly strong. I don't really have any negatives to say about it.

EDIT: I spelled "breaking" wrong at one point and I couldn't let that go.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2013, 08:23:00 AM
Jessie decides to take care of Brock, but doesn't have the financial means to do so.  So, he decides to start cooking again, but needs a partner - so, he hit's up the only one he can think of... Walt Jr.

Breaking Bad II: The Next Generation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 30, 2013, 08:50:10 AM
No Cable for me so o breaking Bad Finale. Finished up the first season of once upon a time yesterday and it was decent. Best characters of the show was Mr.Gold/Rumplistkin. The show takes a lot of ques from Lost with the non linear story telling for each character that eventually comes together. My biggest problem with the show was the absolute waste of Maleficent which I usually consider Disney's best villain not named Scar, bullet that killed Bambi's mother, or Skip Bayless. The actress didn't have that Flair that the cartoon version had and her story beats were pretty wasted unless we see more in season 2.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2013, 09:30:41 AM
You have internet, so no excuses on the Breaking Bad finale. figure it out.

And if Malificent is who I think she is on the show, the you will see more of her in season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on September 30, 2013, 10:19:57 AM
No Cable for me so o breaking Bad Finale. Finished up the first season of once upon a time yesterday and it was decent. Best characters of the show was Mr.Gold/Rumplistkin. The show takes a lot of ques from Lost with the non linear story telling for each character that eventually comes together. My biggest problem with the show was the absolute waste of Maleficent which I usually consider Disney's best villain not named Scar, bullet that killed Bambi's mother, or Skip Bayless. The actress didn't have that Flair that the cartoon version had and her story beats were pretty wasted unless we see more in season 2.


Almost the entire show is on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2013, 10:50:26 AM
Farewell to Breaking Bad

(http://big.assets.huffingtonpost.com/BB_400-1.gif)

edit:

How funny would it have been if after Jessie had sped away ecstatic that he had his freedom back, got road blocked by the police and then arrested and thrown into the back of a police car? Going form one cage to another. Nothing but tragedy for that guy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2013, 08:22:38 PM
I was really expecting him to drive off the road.

I guess they had to tie it in to Need For Speed somehow. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on September 30, 2013, 08:25:14 PM
I loved Breaking Bad, but it all felt like it ended too neatly.
I also think The Shield still holds the title for the most satisfying (and fucked up) final season.

I still give the series a 10/10 with all the highest recommendations though.
Virtual tie for favorite series ever.


I need to second this notion.  It didn't detract enough from the series finale to bother me, but for a show that has always hinged so heavily on creating suspense from the most well-laid plans going wrong, Walt's strategy paid off incredibly well without nearly a hitch.  It was satisfying to watch, but it detracted from any feeling of suspense the last act could have had.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2013, 08:29:10 PM
I have to disagree - I'm glad it wrapped up.  The only remaining question is what happens to Jessie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 01, 2013, 01:04:27 AM
I was really expecting him to drive off the road.

I guess they had to tie it in to Need For Speed somehow. ;)

Is he in a Need for Speed movie or something? because that's not the first time I've seen that said today? I was not aware of a NFS movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 01, 2013, 01:18:31 AM
Dude, they showed the trailer during the episode! :D
http://youtu.be/fsrJWUVoXeM
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 01, 2013, 01:25:19 AM
I didn't watch it on cable.

I never watch anything on cable. ;)

I hate commercials just as much as I hate ads.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 01, 2013, 01:31:51 AM
Oh, typically, I watch stuff on the DVR and zip though the ads.

But not this show.  Not this episode. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 02, 2013, 12:17:04 AM
Marvel's AoS e2

I'm diggin the show. It's fun and doesn't take itself too seriously.
Not to mention Nick Fury made an appearance at the very end. and it was quite humorous.
I do have an issue with the resolution for the hole in the plane.... using the inflatable raft, as if that was going to seal a hole even 1/4 the size. But I'm in for the whole season at this point. I enjoyed the second ep much more than the 1st, so I hope it continues to get better as they go along.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 02, 2013, 12:21:56 AM
Glad to hear the second episode was so much better.  Looking forward to watching it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 02, 2013, 12:30:45 AM
Agent Coulson does need to wipe that damn grin off his face that he wears 98% of his scenes.
It's almost creepy, like we aren't in on some joke that everyone else is apart of and also unaware of.

He wore that smirk up until Fury ripped his ass a new one.

edit: also here is the preview for next week. Looks like there is some Super Villianery going on here.

Graviton

edit2:
and with the end of the 2nd ep, and a clip from the preview of the 3rd. Here is a potential spoiler.

Spoiler (dropped on twitter - will find link later): The Character of Skye is an existing Marvel Character.

Speculation (from around the web): Since there weapon they found was based on Hydra technology, it is being speculated that they are still in play. Since we know that Skye is a double agent and is actually not the sole member of Rising Tide, it is speculated that she is infact working with Hydra. Now knowing that she is not who she says she is, possibly working for Hydra, has "a few tricks up her sleeve" and is an existing Marvel character, some are led to believe that she is actually Jessica Drew aka Spider Woman, as her origin is very very similar.


also I wouldn't be surprised if that artifact that was launched into space someone how was an Easter Egg in GotG.

edit3:
for those just tuning in, the show is campy, light, fun and anything else you can use to describe it in that manner.
Coulson can't wipe that ****-eating grin off his face all episode and everything seems to have a funny little quip to be made about it. So far this show is not a dark comic fantasy come to the small screen, it is intended for family fun and I think it delivers on just that (minus a few head crunching fight moments - ouch). This show will likely be my guilty Tuesday pleasure and I'm ok with that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 02, 2013, 07:39:23 AM
Person of Interest - It's introduced ANOTHER recurring antagonist group to the series. This is the fifth or sixth one so far.

I'm glad that the show has so many stories to run with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 03, 2013, 12:06:48 AM
GameCenter CX -- the best, the only videogame tv show you need in your life:

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10 kachos out of ten.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 03, 2013, 10:56:44 AM
I got to 2nd ep of AoS.  I agree w/ BnM. 

I think they know what they want to do w/ the other characters but Agent Coulson right now comes off as the Zordon of Shield w/ a boss.  I be in a way surprised if he actually survives the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 03, 2013, 10:57:52 AM
Jessie decides to take care of Brock, but doesn't have the financial means to do so.  So, he decides to start cooking again, but needs a partner - so, he hit's up the only one he can think of...
Alright.  Now think Pokemon.  Replace he with She.  Re-Read.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 05, 2013, 03:39:48 AM
Duck Dynasty.

Took less than 5 minutes for me to feel like finding the nearest American to punch in the face for inflicting this on humanity. An insult to actual red necks and anti-American propaganda.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 05, 2013, 07:28:11 AM
Legend of Korra 2x05


Yet another disappointing episode. The only highlights were Bruce Lee and Jacki Chan references. And i have officially lost any idea what the heck Tenzin is doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 05, 2013, 10:33:24 AM
Wait, what were the Lee and Chan references?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 06, 2013, 11:22:17 PM
One of the cops had a book with Bruce Lee on a cover.

And during the same conversation he namedroped "SuperCop" (i.e. the most mindblowing action movie you will ever see).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 07, 2013, 07:19:50 PM
Another great episode of The Legend of Korra. Starting to doubt my theory that Unaloq is a good guy...
Legend of korra?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on October 07, 2013, 10:04:03 PM
Another great episode of The Legend of Korra. Starting to doubt my theory that Unaloq is a good guy...
Legend of korra?
oh for goodness sake http://bit.ly/H2lTSr (http://bit.ly/H2lTSr)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 08, 2013, 12:35:22 AM
I see Burn Notice was sponsored by Microsoft. Windows Phone and Surface tablets all over the place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2013, 02:10:40 AM
The Blacklist - s1e3

first minute of the episode. Black SUV gets lit the **** up with uzis in the middle of a downtown pedestrian filled area, people on motor cycle bust passenger window while firing a hand gun and steal a suitcase, another motorcycle pulls up driver side, pops off a couple shots to the head, breaks window, cuts of dead drivers hand then speeds away.

Not a single **** was given by a singe pedestrian as they all carry-on about their business as if nothing had just happened 10 feet from them. no one is running, ducking, hiding or anything. they just keep walking casually as if it didn't happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2013, 02:41:50 AM
The Blacklist - s1e3

Funny you mention this show because, thinking about it, it doesn't really have much mileage. Once his list runs out, what then?

Is episodes 2 and 3 also filmed in Washington?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 08, 2013, 09:20:08 AM
The Blacklist - s1e3

first minute of the episode. Black SUV gets lit the **** up with uzis in the middle of a downtown pedestrian filled area, people on motor cycle bust passenger window while firing a hand gun and steal a suitcase, another motorcycle pulls up driver side, pops off a couple shots to the head, breaks window, cuts of dead drivers hand then speeds away.

Not a single **** was given by a singe pedestrian as they all carry-on about their business as if nothing had just happened 10 feet from them. no one is running, ducking, hiding or anything. they just keep walking casually as if it didn't happen.
That about sums up a Monday for me.  Not you?  :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 08, 2013, 06:18:46 PM
Merh like avatar but ahem u know what word i would have said there!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
Hannibal (specifically s1e7)

Now I can only assume that Dr. Lechter is serving exactly what I think he serving (there are a lot of "hallucinating/dreaming" scenes in the show), but I'll be damned if it don't look good!!

does that make me a cannibal? or just cannibal curious?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on October 08, 2013, 08:40:53 PM
so i'm taking a trip down memory lane and watching old pokemon episodes...
you know you're doing something wrong when your set of recurring villains has more interesting character arcs and development then your main heroes,

and i'm not joking either. ash as a character quickly becomes a broken record and it's far more interesting to see team rocket in their major defining episodes
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 08, 2013, 08:47:55 PM
I have just finished watching all of the movies and heres my top three
3. The first one
2. Lucario and the mystery of mew (surprise surprise that i'd pick that!)
1. the space time saga! (The rise of darkrai-arceus)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2013, 12:27:03 AM
Agents of SHIELD ep3

OMG Skye is so damn fine. I will have to find gifs of her soaking wet running in that pink red dress.
edit2:
(http://i.minus.com/iGlbqEoUhrWbJ.gif) (http://i.minus.com/iZgoUAcHmQb4N.gif)

Episode 3 was even better than ep2, which was better than ep1, so atleast it's improving.
They also created a super villian (aka Graviton) on the show tonite.
so it looks like things may start to ramp up.


edit: s1e4 promo
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 09, 2013, 09:02:19 AM
I'll probably watch that tomorrow.  I've got Potted Potter tonight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 09, 2013, 09:05:10 PM
fark americains ::)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 09, 2013, 11:43:57 PM
Arrow s2 ep1

Newscast: "A representative from Central City say that construction on the Star Labs Particle Accelerator should be completed by Xmas."

I guess the episode where "The Flash" happens will be in December.


edit: Good episode BTW.
Arrow fans should be pleased.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 10, 2013, 01:13:53 AM
Agents of SHIELD ep3

OMG Skye is so damn fine. I will have to find gifs of her soaking wet running in that pink red dress.
edit2:
(http://i.imgur.com/F8bXzS4.gif)

Episode 3 was even better than ep2, which was better than ep1, so atleast it's improving.
They also created a super villian (aka Graviton) on the show tonite.
so it looks like things may start to ramp up.


edit: s1e4 promo
I like her jigglypuffs! ::)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 11, 2013, 12:45:39 AM
The best part of Arrow s2 e1 was where Island Ollie goes full caveman and caves the bad guy's head in with a rock repeatedly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 11, 2013, 08:18:07 AM
The best part of Arrow s2 e1 was where Island Ollie goes full caveman and caves the bad guy's head in with a rock repeatedly.


Nah best part was Thea in the sorts and Ollie/Felictys banter.


Arrow S2 E1 really made my disappointment with agents of shield much more apparent. Granted Shield is just starting I dislike it doesn't have a big bad or any sort of real arc. Even Buffy an Angel new to establish those from the start through the Master and Wolfram and hart.


Loved all the little refrences to stuff only comic fans would get and the ending with Ollie not wanting to be the hood got me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 12, 2013, 08:38:11 AM
I am Nutock hero of the Water Tribe.


Korra has taken an interesting turn with a swerve on who's the Villain of the story. WhileI'm sure the Spirit World stuff will still have major pay off it makes sense in a more modern world (Steampunk?) that the threat is less about beating the Avatar (Amon) or Taking over the world (Firenation) and is more about Corporate Espionage, Propaganda, and War Profiteering.


I truly believe that Korra's Unce may have screwed over her dad but did it with his best intentions at heart.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 12, 2013, 02:21:27 PM
But amnesia? Really? That's lazy writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
Hannibal s1

Damn, I was strangely hooked on this show. It follows Dr. Hannibal Lecter as a Psychologist for the FBI helping to monitor/diagnose/treat an FBI asset who can think like a serial killer and help solve the crimes. What everyone in the FBI doesn't know (and the audience who should be familiar with the character should know) is that Dr. Lecter is a serial killing cannibal himself, and is more interested in manipulating those around him rather than actual treating them if it will amuse his own agenda.

Can't wait for s2, whenever that is supposed to start. hopefully it's soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 12, 2013, 03:03:53 PM
^ I shouldn't have read that spoiler. Who would have thought? What an unexpected twist! Absolutely minblowing!

Korra: rather predictable, but improving. Funnily it magically gets better when you take out both Tenzin and Korra out. Also plotlines are ALL over the place, last season people complained that it ended way too neatly and too convenient, well i hope you "enjoy" this tangled mess of barely related events.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 12, 2013, 08:04:05 PM
I feel that there's a lack of "goal" for this season series.  Last Airbender focused on defeating the Fire Lord and stopping the war.

This season was... Korra goes to learn Airbending - okay, that stewed in the background a little... then pro-Bending - well, that was two episodes and done... then Amon - oh, wait, now he's dead.  Oh, Korra lost all her bending?  That's something to build... oh, wait, no, she's got it back again.  Now what?  Oh something, something spirits, civil war, politics, something something...

Still, better than most animated shows on TV right now.

They released a Korra season 1 soundtrack.  It's flipping amazing.  Wish they'd release something for Avatar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 12, 2013, 08:37:11 PM
I don't blame them though. Korra was supposed to be a mini-series. Not a fully fledged show. They made season 1 with the intent to never make anything else. Plus, they have to make this fully fledged show on half the staff that made the original, with a fraction of the same amount of writers. For what they have to work with, I'd say they're doing a pretty damn good job.


In all honestly, Korra is going (or is) a series of mini series blended together and released a full show. They've already said as much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 13, 2013, 12:27:15 AM
I still love the show... but I feel the biggest issue is the lack of a direction.

Honestly, I wish they had just pulled the last episode and rewritten that ending as soon as they knew the show was extended.  I wouldn't want the show to be all about Korra relearning how to bend or something, but that ending was *weak*.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 13, 2013, 12:29:12 AM
I don't think you realize how hard animation is. The creators have said that it usually takes them a year to make an episode from planning to releases.


They didn't realize that they were extended until a few months after the finale. They aren't going to rewrite history. They also are infamous for refusing to go the George Lucas route.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on October 16, 2013, 11:02:31 AM
Watched episode one of the new (2nd) season of TMNT (2012). I like the new direction the show's going in with the mutagen cannisters - and equally happy that Wingnut is now a thing!

I just wonder when/if a certain Casey Jones is going to show up. And this episode also hints that Shredder's minions, Bebop and Rocksteady, might actually be a thing to happen this season (even though they were never in the original comic books - IIRC.)

Can't wait for the next episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 16, 2013, 11:07:39 AM
Casey was in the trailers for seccond  season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 16, 2013, 05:03:48 PM
Just watched the new shield and its slowly improving but my main problem is that they make the pre avengers world Mudane the publicd dodn't know what super powers were. While I do thinl the Avengers will be considered the turning point, there was a still of pretty public super fuckery going on if we take the other films etc into account.


I'm also peeved once I got into sleeply hollow the show decides to go on breake until novemeber. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 16, 2013, 05:31:36 PM
Agents of Shield has the exact same problem as Stargate Universe.

A bunch of characters defined purely as "purposes" with an arc which is set to blow up at the end of the season.

Difference is, SGU has better set design, better CGI, and better incidental music.

I still can't get over the 6-engined bus. When the 084 blew a hole in the side of the plane it should have damaged the rear wing and engine at the same time
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 16, 2013, 11:49:57 PM
Arrow s2ep2

WTF!!!!!? :confused; ?

you can't end on a cliff hanger like that.
I need the next episode to start ASAP! just like the first 30 seconds of it or something.

And I guess the no killing rule is in full effect. 2.5 trick arrows used this episode.
Smoke, taser & bolocuffs. This will come back to bite him in the ass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 17, 2013, 12:26:57 AM
Batman wouldn't let himself get suckered into that situation at the DA's office. ;)

I think he's going to be forced to kill somebody pretty soon.

I also think Alderman Blood is going to be a baddy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 17, 2013, 01:17:44 PM
Well Alderman Blood is Brother Blood is in the comics a notable Teen Titan bad guy.


Trick Arrows for the win. I know people may not like them but their part of the reason why I like characters like Green Arrow and Hawkeye.


Laurel is such an annoying character. Her Motivation makes no sense what so ever. "Your bad because your your Battle with Malcom Meryln caused Tommys death".


Right there I would have went off on Laurel because the guy had a fucking earthquake mahcine and wanted to level the glades, and to be completely fair I did Kill him and stop the machine, but no one would have guessed he would have a back up plan.


Tommy only died becuase Laurel didn't leave the glades when her father told her two and than she went back into a burning building during a earthquake for some files.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 17, 2013, 03:24:53 PM
Tommy only died becuase Laurel didn't leave the glades when her father told her two and than she went back into a burning building during a earthquake for some files.

That is likely the reason she is really mad. it's all deflection. She can't bear that it was her own selfish professional greed that got Tommy Killed and if "The Hood" had been a real hero, he would have been in two places at once... because... well... just because he should have known how important those files were to her ongoing cases.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 19, 2013, 02:57:32 AM
Legend of Korra 2x07–08 Beginnings


HOLY ****


Holy sheeeeeeeeeiiiiiiiiit.




asdfsdadswfswrsfaqsqsssss!




##%#@!ssssaaaaa!


Amazing! Absolutely amazing!


This was just as good as ATLA finale! And ATLA finale was the best thing i ever saw!


Wow. Bryke put a solid foundation under whole Avatar business, created completely new mythology for this one. I know it sounds cheezy, but this changes evrything...


Wow.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 19, 2013, 10:51:03 AM
Agreed.  Also, loved the art style for the flashback sequence.

The entire episode(s) was amazing.  Just when Korra was going from "watch it as soon as possible" to "when I get around to it", it's jumped back to "hmm... should I wait for the wife?" status. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 19, 2013, 02:03:26 PM
The thing I found funny about beginings is that it retroactively makes Korra's Super Sayin style use of the Avatar State okay, as that's how Wan used. (his use was more of a spirit fusion but its the same thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 19, 2013, 02:07:42 PM
*sigh* Do we really have to go back to Korra now? I think it says a lot about how terribly-written Korra has been as a character that all the best episodes of this season basically ignore her.  After an hour watching Wan's journey, I just wanted the show to stay there and follow him. He's about 10x more likeable and more engaging to watch.

But yeah, that was a very good two-parter, though the art style took some getting used to. It was nice seeing the genesis of so many of the key aspects of this series, and we finally have some idea of what Umalak's big plan is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 19, 2013, 03:12:43 PM
My only worry is where they go as a series when they defeat the source of all evil in this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 19, 2013, 03:44:22 PM
I'm pretty sure that they established that the darkness can never be defeated, etc., etc...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 19, 2013, 04:56:13 PM
I'm guessing were going to see this season playout with the coming of Vatta being set up as the main goal for the series. The way that Sozin's comet was set up in the second book of TLB as the main arc for the next two books.


I'm guessing Korra stops the Civil War and Unaloq becomes an Anto-Avatar with the next two books having their own plots that all lead up to fighting the devil.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 19, 2013, 05:37:40 PM
I guess I should start watching Legend of Korra again.
Kinda lost interest in the 1st 2 episodes of this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 19, 2013, 09:47:49 PM
Wrong, the creators have already said that each season will be its own mini series, esch with their own villian. Vatta is the season 2 villain, which is why I'm wondering what they'll do after this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 19, 2013, 11:08:48 PM
Aliens
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 20, 2013, 12:25:25 AM
There will be a discovery of a 5th tribe of people with a previously undiscovered 5th power.

This will baffle everyone as they thought the Avatar has all the elements....

So what is this 5th Power and what happens when the Avatar calls upon it!?

It is Heart. and when all those powers are combined, they summon earth's greatest champion. CAPTAIN PLANET!!!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 21, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
What if Unalaq knows how Wan became the first Avatar and is trying to become one himself? Two Avatars?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 21, 2013, 09:53:51 AM
Lots of Avatar spoilers.  Nothing new (aside from predictions), but spoiling anyway.

I also assume they're going to go with some kinda of nega-Avatar, with the dark spirit infusing himself into Unalaq - but Wan didn't get his multiple-bending powers from the spirit, he still got them from the Lion Turtles.

If I recall correctly, by Aang's time, there's only one Lion Turtle left - one that grants the power to "Energy Bend" (which Aang used to take away Ozai's bending ability... which sounds a lot like how we supposedly saw Water Bending used in Season 1).

What if Vaatu originally teamed up with Amon, sought out the only remaining Lion Turtle, learned Energy Bending, and planned to use Amon to fight the Avatar... but Amon was too weak and focused on his own goals, so Vaatu chose another host - one closer to the Avatar.

Now, with this Energy Bending ability, the whole time that Amon was "taking" bending, he was actually /taking/ it, and whomever is bonded with the spirit of Vaatu now has the power to bend all five elements - just like the Avatar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 21, 2013, 10:19:19 AM
Wrong again. :)


They've already said that Amon's "energybending" is him simply using his incredibly advanced waterbending to change the chi flow in one's chakras to permanently prevent bending. However, it can be fixed.


Aang's energybending that was given to him by the lion turtle is different. He undergoes an in battle with the other person, and has to have an unbendable spirit or else it'll turn on him. That, on the other hand, cannot be reversed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 21, 2013, 10:24:47 AM
There is also no reason why Vaato couldn't ask for the power to hold elements from the Lion Turtles either. They seemed pretty willing to give it to pretty much anyone. It's not as inciteful as your explanation, but it still works.


Either way, it seems like that's where it's headed. Why else would Unalaq trick the Avatar into opening the portal to the Spirit World? Why else would he spend time in the bridge between the two worlds if not to talk to Vaato.


And how utterly convenient for Korra to know exactly how she became the Avatar.


Anyway, brilliant hour long episode. Possibly the best episode since the finale or least the only one since that has given me goosebumps.

It really is too bad that we probably won't see Wan again. As Broodwars said, he has way more personality than Korra.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 21, 2013, 11:52:35 AM
I wouldn't say that Wan or Aang for that matter has more personality that Korra's its just their each more likable.

Korra has a pretty fleshed out personality (as does her supporting cast) She's a bit of a narsacstic entitled Bitch to be honest, and it was done intentionally by the writers. 

Remember Korra didn't have any struggle and her personality is built upon who she is.

Wan had to learn Humilty through his mistakes and his character arc made him a better person. Dude already had a bit of a ersonality and that kind hearted yet ready to fight spirit created the Avatar.


Anng didn't even know that he was supposed to be the Avatar till he was 11. Dude grew up as a normal kid with no expectations giving him the personality of a regular monk. It wasn't until the Firenation really started to push that the monks told Aaang and like any kid who had been alienated from his friends an has the fate of the world on his shoulders he couldn't deal so he ran.

Korra however we know knew she was the Avatar from around 4 or 5. After Annag and the last team Avatar saved the world, she grew up with a big head like anyone knowing they're the Avatar in a time piece would. She didn't have to train hard as everything came easy to her, and despite her family being poor Korra due to who she is wanted for nothing. Hell we see multiple times in republic city where Korra and her friends assume that being the Avatar should her special privileges.

Korra with who she is and season 1's main setting could be a a commentary on the this generations youth who have a self importance about them on top of their parents successes. Or I could be giving the writers to much credit and Korra is a Teen Drama in the avatar world.

It seems people tend to hate the character for having a personality, just not one they would like. Being the Avatar doesn't exclusively make you a good person.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 21, 2013, 08:39:59 PM
Wrong again. :)


They've already said that Amon's "energybending" is him simply using his incredibly advanced waterbending to change the chi flow in one's chakras to permanently prevent bending. However, it can be fixed.


Aang's energybending that was given to him by the lion turtle is different. He undergoes an in battle with the other person, and has to have an unbendable spirit or else it'll turn on him. That, on the other hand, cannot be reversed.

We have no evidence that it cannot be reversed.

As for the idea that Amon used advanced waterbending - he had to have some kind of explanation.  Did you expect him to just say "Oh, evil spirit Vaatu helped me gain this power." and give away his biggest secret?


There is also no reason why Vaato couldn't ask for the power to hold elements from the Lion Turtles either. They seemed pretty willing to give it to pretty much anyone. It's not as inciteful as your explanation, but it still works.


I think it was established that the other the other turtle lions are extinct by Aang's time.  They wouldn't be able to give Vaatu the bending powers by the time he escaped.

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It really is too bad that we probably won't see Wan again. As Broodwars said, he has way more personality than Korra.


It'd be neat if they did a new series after Korra that featured 2-3 episode story arcs and told a single event in various lives of the various Avatars.  Maybe somehow tie these various events into a singular event in a post-Korra Avatar story as the season finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 21, 2013, 09:08:28 PM
That's the greatest thing about Avatar. There are literally hundreds of main characters they could choose from.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 21, 2013, 09:16:01 PM
I just wonder if the audience would be receptive to the idea that they would have a new cast of characters every 2-3 episodes.  Part of what makes the series great is the supporting cast and the character development.  You'd lose that in a 2-3 episode rotating mini-series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 22, 2013, 12:59:50 AM
Unclebob, the proof I have is interviews done with Mike and Bryan. Word of God, bro. I ain't just making **** up. In the fucking DVD commentary for Season 1 they literally gave the explanation I told you. Amon was a kickass motherfucking waterbender. That's it. He is not tied to this new guy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 22, 2013, 08:45:07 AM
Dude, I've got the Blu-Ray (and the soundtrack, but that's unrelated).  I have no doubt that they'll stick with the same boring (and, honestly, stupid) explanation they used before.

I'm just saying, it'd be possible (and much more cool) if they tied it all together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on October 22, 2013, 10:07:51 AM
Oh yeah? Well, I've got the limited edition LaserDisc that says both of you guys are full of ****!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 22, 2013, 10:16:22 AM

Spoilers Ahead in my post. I'm getting sick of spoiler tags.



Dude, I've got the Blu-Ray (and the soundtrack, but that's unrelated).  I have no doubt that they'll stick with the same boring (and, honestly, stupid) explanation they used before.

I'm just saying, it'd be possible (and much more cool) if they tied it all together.


Doesn't matter if you found it stupid. That isn't the only place they used that "stupid" explanation. ASN and other websites like MTV and IGN did similar interviews and they said the same thing. Plus, if I remember correctly, it might have even been stated shortly after the season ended on their tumblrs.


His "energybending" is an extension of the fact that he could bloodbend at the age of 14, without moving any part of his body, before he even ran away from home. His "energybending" is his bloodbending.


I don't care what your opinion is, Word of God is Word of God. These two are not the types to go back on their explanations, especially when the fandom is fucking crazy about these details (including myself). In fact, they hate when people go back on etablished canon (They call it "Lucasing it")


There is a difference between this:


http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Energybending


And this:


http://avatar.wikia.com/wiki/Chi_blocking

Amon's bloodbending did the latter.


Now for something completely different: I am a little confused about the entire Wan storyline that we got. Oma and Shu (from the Cave of Two Lovers episode) were the first earthbenders and they learned it from the Badgermoles. Not the Lion Turtles. And waterbending was learned by the Moon. Airbending by the Air Bison. Firebending by the Sun/Dragons. If this is the case, why were the Lion Turtles the only one with this power if these people supposed already "discovered" it?


My only explanation is that since the different cities were so damn isolated and that each city pretty much thought that only they existed, Wan and other cities around the world hadn't realized that these people had already done it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 22, 2013, 10:41:23 AM
Despite what TJ here is saying, Amon Vaatu theory definitely makes more sense than what we got.
I'd be completely okay with it changed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 22, 2013, 10:42:49 AM
You may leave ASN, but ASN never leaves you. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 22, 2013, 03:35:58 PM
Oblivion, being able to firebend and learning to firebend are VERY different. There is a reason why they showed Wan learning how to firebend from a dragon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 22, 2013, 07:44:20 PM
These two are not the types to go back on their explanations, especially when the fandom is fucking crazy about these details (including myself). In fact, they hate when people go back on etablished canon (They call it "Lucasing it")

"These guys don't change established canon."


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Now for something completely different: I am a little confused about the entire Wan storyline that we got. Oma and Shu (from the Cave of Two Lovers episode) were the first earthbenders and they learned it from the Badgermoles. Not the Lion Turtles. And waterbending was learned by the Moon. Airbending by the Air Bison. Firebending by the Sun/Dragons. If this is the case, why were the Lion Turtles the only one with this power if these people supposed already "discovered" it?

"I don't understand why these guys changed established canon."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 22, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
Five Minutes into shield and it makes sense that their still isn't alot of people on their index list. I'm wonder how does something quantify to be put on the index .


Also they're digging deep with the peeps to use on the show. 
(http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/61102/1543627-screen_shot_2010_12_03_at_10.56.47_pm.png)


I wonder how they can use a charcater who's a mutant. (I guess it helps he started off as a Marvel U charcater so he applies in the same way Quicksilber and Scarlet Witch does)


On a unrelated note despite the storybook fantasy stuff being my favorite part of Once Upon of Time, the Wonderland spin off looks like garbage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on October 22, 2013, 09:39:57 PM
These two are not the types to go back on their explanations, especially when the fandom is fucking crazy about these details (including myself). In fact, they hate when people go back on etablished canon (They call it "Lucasing it")

"These guys don't change established canon."


Quote
Now for something completely different: I am a little confused about the entire Wan storyline that we got. Oma and Shu (from the Cave of Two Lovers episode) were the first earthbenders and they learned it from the Badgermoles. Not the Lion Turtles. And waterbending was learned by the Moon. Airbending by the Air Bison. Firebending by the Sun/Dragons. If this is the case, why were the Lion Turtles the only one with this power if these people supposed already "discovered" it?

"I don't understand why these guys changed established canon."
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Hey dipshit, that isn't what I said. I just want to know how the history goes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 22, 2013, 10:20:50 PM
:D :D :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2013, 10:40:06 PM
now now, no name calling child(ren).

Five Minutes into shield and it makes sense that their still isn't alot of people on their index list. I'm wonder how does something quantify to be put on the index .


Also they're digging deep with the peeps to use on the show. 
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/61102/1543627-screen_shot_2010_12_03_at_10.56.47_pm.png


I wonder how they can use a charcater who's a mutant. (I guess it helps he started off as a Marvel U charcater so he applies in the same way Quicksilber and Scarlet Witch does)

They stated that they have a list of characters they can use and which ones they can't.
There is a list that Marvel can't touch (the Spider-man, F4 & X-Men list) and there is the list that Marvel TV studio can't touch (things that will be used by Marvel Movie studios).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 12:52:49 AM
The Girl in the flower dress "Reyna" is FOINE. firmly puts Skye in a second place, with plenty of elbow and leg room to spare. Not even debatable.

But the Agents of SHIELD improvement meter ticks up another notch this week, for those of you sitting on the sidelines waiting to catch up once it crosses a specific. It's getting there slowly.

Next episode isnt' for 2 weeks, but things are moving forward.
It appears AIM is the big bad company behind things since they are pushing Extremis tech, and someone somewhere says that this series is taking place post-Avengers but pre-IM3, and will line up with the MCU during the season finale. We'll see if that is true and how that goes, but sounds good to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 23, 2013, 01:19:02 AM
The series can't take place Pre Iron Man 3 right. I mean that defeats the purpose of Starks struggle if shield already had a partial cure for Extemis. 


Still I hope they don't kill off Simmons. I can't take another nerdy, akward, yet still fine as hell girls dying in wheadon shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 03:53:06 AM
You may be right about the Extremis thing, but that was just one person talking.

The preview for next ep did make it look like Simmons may be in trouble, and from what I'm hearing, Wheadon likes to kill off a main character fairly early on in his shows.... but I think it was a misdirect.

Also the Skye reveal at the end sounds very much like they are pushing the Jessica Drew (aka Spider-woman) angle.

Speculation on GAF as to who the "clairvoyant" is
either the original Black Widow:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_%28Marvel_Comics%29 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Widow_%28Marvel_Comics%29)

or someone with connection to Jessica Drew:
http://marvel.wikia.com/Herbert_Wyndham_%28Earth-616%29 (http://marvel.wikia.com/Herbert_Wyndham_%28Earth-616%29)


anyone want to place their bets?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 23, 2013, 04:42:03 AM
Person of Interest - Shaw, Carter and Root are utterly and totally badass. Some of the best female characters on TV.

Agents of Shield -

1 - Verizon product placement on a SHIELD communication box? Really?
2 - In the car chase he actually plays a 5 second video on his phone called gridlock.mp4 in an app called "Act 1 Video Player". Really??
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 23, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
Agent of Shield has product placement but then Breaking Bad had a ton if you were looking.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 23, 2013, 09:49:51 AM
Product placement isn't a problem, but it wasn't even done with class. It was just slapped in the centre of the image. The point that got me truly was the gridlock video he played on his phone to imply he hacked the traffic systems when you actually see the file name and the app name in the same image.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 10:39:19 AM
Product placement isn't a problem, but it wasn't even done with class. It was just slapped in the centre of the image. The point that got me truly was the gridlock video he played on his phone to imply he hacked the traffic systems when you actually see the file name and the app name in the same image.

True, that was pretty lazy.... unless you believe that he is a hacker that wrote the program to look like something else less conspicuous on purpose.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 23, 2013, 10:42:58 AM
Product placement isn't a problem, but it wasn't even done with class. It was just slapped in the centre of the image. The point that got me truly was the gridlock video he played on his phone to imply he hacked the traffic systems when you actually see the file name and the app name in the same image.


You don't seem to watch most TV shows do you. Have you seen Arrow or most CW shows its total microsoft or whoever is sponsering the show product placement.


Take Gossip Girl it had cell phone product placment for sometime to the point that despite these being rich kids who would have all had iphones in 2006, they instead still had Blackberry style phones and droids.


I don't think SKye is Jessica Drew at all. Nine times out of ten she's Coulson and May's daughter.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 10:59:31 AM
I don't think SKye is Jessica Drew at all. Nine times out of ten she's Coulson and May's daughter.

Did you run this through a scenario probability machine?

9x out of 10?  Although I could see that also being a probability assuming they had a physical relationship like they almost alluded to earlier in the episode; "If you want I can lay out the mats downstairs and we can go a few rounds" (paraphrased), I'm not so sure.
(edit: it was also alluded to last episode - Skye: "Mom and dad are fighting downstairs"
let's hope that wasn't some foreshadowing - I would hope that Coulson would know that he had gotten May preggo and that May would have had SHIELD keep track of her daughter if she had to give her up. Fury at the very least would have known what was up. I really don't want to see a 'surprise!! we are your parents/I am your daughter' scene)


The whole missing parents, don't know who they are, working for a "Terrorist" organization, infiltrating SHIELD, ability to win over men (good looks or pheromones) against their better judgement, and the fact that we don't even know her real name or any of her history is all lining up with Jessica Drew at this point.

They've already established that there are people out there with special abilities (aka Scorch & The Clairvoyant), so it wouldn't be out of this world to think that Skye may have some dormant powers that she wasn't aware of or hadn't quite manifested yet.
Ward:  "You can't save everyone from themselves" -
Coulson: "You can if you get to them early enough" (that comment could have had a double meaning.)

and i'm expecting alot more Freak of the Week episodes going forward as they try to locate the people on this short list before AIM decides to ramp them up into super beings. Besides I would love to see more of Reyna (actress Ruth Negga) preferably on screen the same time as Skye (actress Chloe Bennet)... so much eye candy in the last episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 23, 2013, 01:15:30 PM
Well that and the allusion that the writers have been giving that May and Coulson had some prior relationship. While it would be a bit corny, I wouldn't put it past Wheadon to pull that card. Skye probably isn't Jessica Drew either since Drew is most likey in the top three candidates for the first female solo film. If we do see Drew on shield its most likely going to be as a different charcater, since Spider-woman is more affilated with Sword than she is with shield.


If we are dealing with AIM as the main villain than i'm guessing Reyna is the MCU version of superia. I still want to know when exactly the show takes place.   
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
Person of Interest - GOTDAMN SON!!!

"Gross" - LMFAO

Shaw and Det. Carter - Beautiful and deadly. Watch The F*** OUT!!
These women do not play.
Shaw I was aware of, but Carter just stepped her game up to level 11. She just crossed a line she can't come back from, but she had to play her hand. And play it well she did.

This show is like, What If!?
What if there were 2 Batmans, 1 Robin and an Oracle. They were licensed to kill and willing to do it.
They have an unlimited bank account and access to all the info they will need. No costumes. No Toys. And they always play for keeps.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 23, 2013, 09:47:46 PM
Let me just also say that if you are into Vampire Diaries
The Originals is very much worth checking out.

Klaus is very much in his element in this show.
You have to make it past the 1st episode, which is an edited and extended recut of the backdoor pilot from last season of VD, after that it gets pretty good. Last ep was pretty good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 23, 2013, 10:45:53 PM
Dumb question.  If blinking activates the backscatter/x-ray vision, wouldn't her handler notice that the SHIELD agent blinking isn't activating the backscatter?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 23, 2013, 11:27:51 PM
Walking Dead S04E2 - Awesome/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 24, 2013, 03:46:35 AM
Dumb question.  If blinking activates the backscatter/x-ray vision, wouldn't her handler notice that the SHIELD agent blinking isn't activating the backscatter?

I don't think that's how it worked. But the handler should have noticed that there was no more blinking (because it was a pair of glasses, not and eyeball).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 24, 2013, 08:07:51 AM
Yeah, that's what I meant.  There was no blinking when the backscatter was activated.

Also, he could totally see his white-man hands when he took down that guard.

Fairly decent episode... and I'm nit picky... but still...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 24, 2013, 09:15:34 AM
Well, He might not be overly observant that way since he was also being handled the same way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 24, 2013, 09:33:33 AM
Person of Interest - GOTDAMN SON!!!

"Gross" - LMFAO

Shaw and Det. Carter - Beautiful and deadly. Watch The F*** OUT!!
These women do not play.
Shaw I was aware of, but Carter just stepped her game up to level 11. She just crossed a line she can't come back from, but she had to play her hand. And play it well she did.

This show is like, What If!?
What if there were 2 Batmans, 1 Robin and an Oracle. They were licensed to kill and willing to do it.
They have an unlimited bank account and access to all the info they will need. No costumes. No Toys. And they always play for keeps.

Carter is totally badass, the final 10 minutes or so was incredible. Another brilliantly written episode. Root at the end, my jaw was in the floor

1- The look of terror in Laskey's face, at the end, was amazing. He knows he was just put totally in his place.
2 - Shaw being beaten by a 10 year old.
3 - Semeen hearing about the death of her father, then immediately replying "I'm hungry. Can i have a sandwich?". Such a devastating line.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 24, 2013, 09:35:10 AM
Well, He might not be overly observant that way since he was also being handled the same way.

True.  But I'm inclined to think his handler could also see what she was doing and such.  Otherwise, his handler wouldn't have the secret code that was on the wall yet...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 24, 2013, 01:03:03 PM
Person of Interest - GOTDAMN SON!!!

"Gross" - LMFAO

Shaw and Det. Carter - Beautiful and deadly. Watch The F*** OUT!!
These women do not play.
Shaw I was aware of, but Carter just stepped her game up to level 11. She just crossed a line she can't come back from, but she had to play her hand. And play it well she did.

This show is like, What If!?
What if there were 2 Batmans, 1 Robin and an Oracle. They were licensed to kill and willing to do it.
They have an unlimited bank account and access to all the info they will need. No costumes. No Toys. And they always play for keeps.

Carter is totally badass, the final 10 minutes or so was incredible. Another brilliantly written episode. Root at the end, my jaw was in the floor

1- The look of terror in Laskey's face, at the end, was amazing. He knows he was just put totally in his place.
2 - Shaw being beaten by a 10 year old.
3 - Semeen hearing about the death of her father, then immediately replying "I'm hungry. Can i have a sandwich?". Such a devastating line.
That awkward hug at the end was great

and Root will be playing the role of The Joker in this adaptation of The Goddam Batman.

which is all relevant with the Batman reference Shaw made just before that awkward hug.
"ward of a billionaire recluse"

to refine the characters on this show

Finch = The Billionaire Bruce Wayne & The Oracle
Reese = The Goddamn Batman
Shaw = Nightwing? Katana? (Cassandra Cain (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Cassandra_Cain_%28New_Earth%29))
Carter = The Street Level Robin
Fusco = ....Gordon?
Root = The Joker
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 24, 2013, 11:57:57 PM
Speaking of Batman, I just watched Arrow S2 Ep3.

Ras Al Ghul trained Merlyn. He also trained Black Canary. TRAINING IS NOTHING! THE WILL IS EVERYTHING! WHEN A FOREST GROWS TO WILD A PURGING FIRE IS INEVITABLE AND NATURAL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 25, 2013, 02:04:04 AM
Solid episode of Arrow all in all. That little tidbit was completely unexpected and just the perfect capper to the episode. Although I was about to fist pump that Merlyn was back but alas, it was just a tease. Still, after Merlyn referenced Nanda Parbat last year, people drew that conclusion about his origin but thought that was as far as the show with go inferring who trained him. And it helps explain why he had the solution he did for the Glades.
Now it looks like the writers are being given more and more freedom to access what they want from the DCU and the show is getting better for it. Maybe it has something to do with Agents of Shield and DC and WB finally realizing they have some competition and can work together to make their product better instead of the blocks that occurred during Smallville which always hampered it.

It's not perfect and the biggest problem usually has to do with the plot involving the villain of the week usually dragging things down or creating the biggest plot holes and logic gaps. But the rest of it all with the characters dealing with their lives and situations and secrets is top notch. If they can just tighten up that one bit, they really have a lot of potential right now of making this the best live action superhero show ever. (Which might still belong to Batman '66).

With the season so far, Arrow is fast becoming my most anticipated show of the week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 25, 2013, 03:12:10 AM
That awkward hug at the end was great

and Root will be playing the role of The Joker in this adaptation of The Goddam Batman.

which is all relevant with the Batman reference Shaw made just before that awkward hug.
"ward of a billionaire recluse"

to refine the characters on this show

Finch = The Billionaire Bruce Wayne & The Oracle
Reese = The Goddamn Batman
Shaw = Nightwing? Katana? (Cassandra Cain (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Cassandra_Cain_%28New_Earth%29))
Carter = The Street Level Robin
Fusco = ....Gordon?
Root = The Joker

I disagree with Fusco, he's something like Gordon but he's the comic relief for the show.
I would argue that Root and The Machine are both the joker, seeing as she is now the Analog Interface for it and the machine is self-governing now

But i still 100% agree. POI is absolutely definitely the live-action Batman now. Unofficially.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2013, 04:50:41 AM
So Fusco is Alfred?

Person of Interest is Batman with a gun

Arrow is Batman with a Bow
But on Arrow. Arrow has been awesome. Arrow is exciting hero TV.
They keep things moving and I like that. If DC & The CW comes through on their The Flash series as well as they have on Arrow, then at least they will be beating Marvel on the TV front.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 25, 2013, 10:54:23 AM
I guess I need to start watching Arrow.  I really didn't care for Smallville, so I had been avoiding it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 25, 2013, 12:59:10 PM
I guess I need to start watching Arrow.  I really didn't care for Smallville, so I had been avoiding it.


As someone who likes smallville I can understand why it would be off putting. However Arrow comes from a much different mold with the first season being much more like a Batman Year One tale. It has the usual CW love stories but action wise its up there with Nikita and Supernatural.


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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 25, 2013, 02:29:20 PM
Well, if you do start watching it, I guess I'll give you a bit more info to give you a more complete picture.

Season 1 starts off OK. It's not exactly the most compelling show but it scratchs that whole superhero / comic book itch enough to keep you pleased and entertained enough to stay with it. Plus, the people on the show are obviously trying to start incorporating feedback from the audience and start making adjustments to what works and doesn't work. But after about the first 10 episodes in, they've basically found their groove and have started to set-up the big season storylines. The show starts to ramp up viewer interest. And then by about the 18th episode or so, I had no problem recommending this show to anyone. It's been harder to convince people who watched Smallville to give this show since there was a version of Green Arrow on that show for a few seasons but this iteration is completely different.

The show gets compared quite a bit to Batman Begins or Spiderman and as you watch it, you'll see why. The look of it and some of the character situations seem to mimick it or give off that vibe that, even if I hadn't told you this, you'd probably end up thinking that yourself at some point. While the Batman influence / imitation is something the Green Arrow character has always struggled with even before he was on TV, there are enough differences that still make him his own unique creation such as how he has no problem killing villains and is dropping bodies almost every episode. One thing the show does right is focus more on those differences while downplaying the similarities as much as possible.

One of the better choices they've done is focus more on his time stranded on an island where he learned to become the Green Arrow. Moreover, it has allowed the show to have two stories in one. There are stories and mysteries from his time on the island in the past and stories and mysteries from his time back home in the present. The great thing about that is, instead of having just one show of his time in the present or one show of his time in the past for instance, they can avoid having filler material and spinning their wheels for awhile as well as keep things moving along at a nice pace.

That is one of the greatest differences between it and Smallville in that things move forward. Smallville spent way too long with the whole Clark/Lana romance and it falling apart because he was hiding something along with other such subplots. While Arrow may have the characters mope and angst about a situation for awhile, it generally doesn't last longer than 4 episodes until it is resolved and they move on. I mean, I know that since it is the CW, it is going to be marketed more to the high school crowd and so there is going to be some relationship drama or teen angst to appeal to that crowd. It mostly comes through the Thea character. However, I'm thankful it is not played up to the level that Smallville would take it at times and it just seems to be better handled and a bit more subdued as well that I can live with it and not roll my eyes or hate the characters. Unlike Smallville which dragged out the progression of Clark to Superman far longer than it should have been or really worked, with the character of Oliver Queen, and also the others around him, you can see a real progression being made as they keep adapting to the new situations facing them.

On the minus side, I've only now begun to warm up to the main character of Oliver Queen. It's not that there's nothing wrong with the actor or his portayal per se. It's just that the other characters have more interesting personalities or are given better moments to shine. With Oliver Queen, since he is hiding his identity and lying about what he does and really is, you don't often get to see him just be himself. And when he is, he's usually pretty serious and focus on his mission of trying to save his city. He even admits during the show that he is trying to keep people or form too much of attatchment to them since he doesn't know how it will end for him. Having him be semi-detached from people seems to have a similar effect on the viewer with myself only being semi-attached to him. Fortunately, as the character has been able to start opening up more and formed some attachments, it's also helped in my warming up to the character.

But the same can not be said for the character of Laural Lance which is a problem since she's a major character in the world of Green Arrow. I think the biggest issue with her is that it just seems every episode, they use her to get on somebody's case about something or half the time put her life in danger and they don't give her much else.

The episodic plots can be hit or miss and as I mentioned in a previous post, the one thing that the show could tighten up on. But the same was true of Smallville and its Freak of the Week episodic nature. It was the long running subplots that helped carry it through that and it is the same thing with Arrow with the secondary plots usually being the more interesting developments in an episode. While they moved slowly at first, the show seems to have found the right pacing for them and so there always seems to be little new developments each episode to keep you coming back for more.

If I were to use a 1-10 scale to rank it with 1 the worst and 10 the best, I'd rank the majority of Season at 7.5 with it moving up to 8 at the end. Season 2 has been about an 8.3 or so. With the material they currently have to work with and a few more adjustments and tighter scripting, this show has the potential to get to 9 or higher. Even if that doesn't pan out, it is still at a pretty good spot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 25, 2013, 02:37:12 PM
I, on the other hand, am getting quite curious about Person of Interest now from BnM and Plugabugz descriptions. I never hear anything about this show except from this site. From the promos of it years ago, my take on it was that it was a guy who had invented a system to track people and he had hired someone to then find people he tracked on the computer who were of a villainous nature and capture them or maybe take them out. It didn't really grab my interest and I never heard much about it or anyone talk about it. It was something I just thought would probably get cancelled and disappear from the air without anyone really noticing.

However, what you are describing has me very intrigued as to what this show really is and maybe start watch the beginning of it a bit to see what I think of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 25, 2013, 02:40:47 PM
Because of them I watched the first episode on CBS website I could find, S3ep1, and if someone would have told me this was pretty much in the same genre as The Pretender I probably would have watched it originally.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2013, 06:52:30 PM
I, on the other hand, am getting quite curious about Person of Interest now from BnM and Plugabugz descriptions. I never hear anything about this show except from this site. From the promos of it years ago, my take on it was that it was a guy who had invented a system to track people and he had hired someone to then find people he tracked on the computer who were of a villainous nature and capture them or maybe take them out. It didn't really grab my interest and I never heard much about it or anyone talk about it. It was something I just thought would probably get cancelled and disappear from the air without anyone really noticing.

However, what you are describing has me very intrigued as to what this show really is and maybe start watch the beginning of it a bit to see what I think of it.

Person of Interest is about a machine that was created to monitor everything (street cam, ATM's, phones, etc etc). The creator thought it was too powerful and may be used for the wrong things, so he hid the machine and instead uses it to protect people that are in need. The machine will spit out numbers, usually through a phone call with an automated voice, and those numbers usually indicate a person (SS# is the usual number string). It's up to this guy to figure out if they are preventing something bad from happening to this person, or stopping them from doing something bad. That is why he ("Bruce Wayne/The Oracle") hired an ex-special ops agent (now dubbed The Goddam Batman*) to carry out the physical aspects of these missions.

I too casually watched the first season thinking it would get cancelled, only to be surprised by the good ratings and the announcement of a 2nd season. It is now in it's 3rd season and the last episode that aired (3x05) was one of it's best yet.



*Jim Caviezel was actually in the running to be new Batman, which would have been kinda perfect considering that is pretty much the role he plays every week, voice included. All he had to do for the audition was show them a highlights reel from the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 25, 2013, 07:25:15 PM
Person of Interest has a very Nolan feel, and it is filmed beautifully on location in New York City.

Reese likes to shoot people in the kneecaps.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2013, 02:48:50 AM
American Horror Story.....

What in the F*** did FX just get away with putting on TV!?

Did anybody else watch the most recent episode? I'm gonna go baptize my eyes now.
They need to be reborn with new innocence.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 26, 2013, 06:26:41 PM
Person of Interest has a very Nolan feel

This is because the creator and showrunner is Jonathan Nolan - who has cowritten nearly all of Christopher Nolan's movies, including the Dark Knight trilogy.

If you want to see what Jonathan Nolan can do as director, watch season 2 episode 16 called "Relevance". He wrote and directed that one himself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2013, 02:45:55 AM
Supernatural - just violated my trust. I feel betrayed.

This episode was about Dorothy and the Wicked Witch of the West.
Yes you are reading that right. From Fucking Oz.

WTF. I feel that the show may have just fell off a cliff for me right there. Worst filler episode ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 30, 2013, 04:11:43 AM
Supernatural fell off a cliff when they killed Satan.

There is simply no topping that.

Still want to check out remaining episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 30, 2013, 05:42:44 PM
Person of Interest - Root and Shaw have an incredible chemistry. Root and Finch have an incredible chemistry.

Amy Acker has an incredible chemistry with everyone.

I really thought they wouldn't top last week, but somehow they managed it. Why The Machine decided to send Root/Shaw in seperately to Reese/Finch makes me wonder why that hacker is important. The potential for all these characters is very interesting.

The Blacklist - I don't watch this properly, except to see if its as  terrible as it seems. It is. But i love James Spader's voice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sundoulos on October 30, 2013, 11:59:53 PM
I'm also a fan of Person of Interest and mainly started watching it because I like both Michael Emmerson (Finch) and Jim Caviezel (Reese).  I was also afraid it would get cancelled early on in season one, but I think they really turned a corner after they introduced Elias for the first time.  It's currently my favorite show.

It's a little cheesy, but this scene from season 2 where Finch discusses the meaning of Pi while undercover as a  teacher  is still one of my favorite PoI moments:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWpb5b1qVc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDWpb5b1qVc)

As far as Batman analogies go, why wouldn't Fusco, especially season 1 Fusco, simply be Harvey Bullock?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 31, 2013, 04:31:14 AM
AV Club seem to both hate Hostages and The Blacklist (the former getting the first F since the Dexter series finale), so i'm having a little look at both to see if its as bad as they say.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 31, 2013, 11:49:56 AM
Supernatural fell off a cliff when they killed Satan.

There is simply no topping that.

Still want to check out remaining episodes.


To be fair the show was only written for 5 seasons and should have ended with the beating of Satan.
   
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 31, 2013, 12:08:17 PM
AV Club seem to both hate Hostages and The Blacklist (the former getting the first F since the Dexter series finale), so i'm having a little look at both to see if its as bad as they say.

The Blacklist is an OK, show. it has it's problems, but is kinda entertaining. Nothing I would recommend at this point, but maybe it will get there... but probably not.

I've never seen (or heard of) The Hostage, so no comment there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on November 02, 2013, 11:36:06 AM
Legend of Korra 2x09 The Guide

Cool off after monumental two parter before that and preparation for next two-parters. Pieces are setting up into the positions.

People are mad about Masami, i personally don't care about shipping much. As long as it's not taking too much time (like it happened in first season).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on November 03, 2013, 10:16:42 AM
Okay - so, I just finished Season 1 of Arrow.

Working through Season 2 on CW's website and the show is getting added to my DVR.

That means it gets my seal of approval. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 03, 2013, 04:22:30 PM
Person of Interest - GOTDAMN SON!!!

"Gross" - LMFAO

Shaw and Det. Carter - Beautiful and deadly. Watch The F*** OUT!!
These women do not play.
Shaw I was aware of, but Carter just stepped her game up to level 11. She just crossed a line she can't come back from, but she had to play her hand. And play it well she did.

This show is like, What If!?
What if there were 2 Batmans, 1 Robin and an Oracle. They were licensed to kill and willing to do it.
They have an unlimited bank account and access to all the info they will need. No costumes. No Toys. And they always play for keeps.

Carter is totally badass, the final 10 minutes or so was incredible. Another brilliantly written episode. Root at the end, my jaw was in the floor

1- The look of terror in Laskey's face, at the end, was amazing. He knows he was just put totally in his place.
2 - Shaw being beaten by a 10 year old.
3 - Semeen hearing about the death of her father, then immediately replying "I'm hungry. Can i have a sandwich?". Such a devastating line.
That awkward hug at the end was great

and Root will be playing the role of The Joker in this adaptation of The Goddam Batman.

which is all relevant with the Batman reference Shaw made just before that awkward hug.
"ward of a billionaire recluse"

to refine the characters on this show

Finch = The Billionaire Bruce Wayne & The Oracle
Reese = The Goddamn Batman
Shaw = Nightwing? Katana? (Cassandra Cain (http://dc.wikia.com/wiki/Cassandra_Cain_%28New_Earth%29))
Carter = The Street Level Robin
Fusco = ....Gordon?
Root = The Joker

Apparently Carter isn't Robin afterall, but actually Cat Woman instead! 0_0

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and I think Shaw is actually a crossover character. The Punisher
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 06, 2013, 03:32:33 PM
mmmm nice.




Agent's of shield finally started to hit its stride. The first half of the episode was a bit meh with the standout scenes being Coulson talking to the firefighter and the use of the Chitauri helmet as a plot point. The cast is really starting to gel together and the focus on fitzsimmons was the highlight of the episode.


I wish the series would start to intoduce more places like the Raft, but having cinematic universe orginal things like the sandbox are good too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 06, 2013, 06:10:46 PM
Okay - so, I just finished Season 1 of Arrow.

Working through Season 2 on CW's website and the show is getting added to my DVR.

That means it gets my seal of approval. :D

Glad to hear the recommendation worked out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on November 07, 2013, 09:20:54 AM
Don't Trust the Bitch in Apartment 23
It started off really strong. The first seven or right episodes were very funny and then it was up and down after that. I didn't dislike any episode. The show was cancelled after 26 episode which wasn't surprising because it was obvious that it wasn't a show that could sustain itself with its premise for much longer. Much of the humor is derived from just how irreverent Chloe (played by Krysten Ritter or Jane from Breaking Bad) is towards everything and everyone and the reactions from others (Jane's facial expressions are often priceless). Then, they gave her a quasi-love interest. Nope, doesn't work. Anything that might soften a character whose bitchiness is so essential to the show ultimately must be left out or it risks betraying what makes the show so appealing.

Krysten Ritter was often excellent though she played Jane so well in Breaking Bad that it was hard at first to see past that. Dreama Walker, the real protagonist, June, played the perfect foil though she was far less interesting. James Van Deer Beek was good, but Neil Patrick Harris played the whole fictionalized degenerate version of himself better and before Van Der Beek. Maybe that's not a fair comparison, but it's there nonetheless. Liza Lapira was hilarious despite being MIA for most of the second season.

Ultimately, I enjoyed it for what it was, but I'm not upset that there are no more episodes. I think it could have gone one more season before feeling like it was retreading ground (it got close a few times). There was no room for the characters to grow otherwise, it becomes a different kind of show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2013, 09:53:26 AM
This last episode of AoS I sort of wish they would have shown what the bracelet did and how it limit Skye some.  Don't think it was a bad episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 07, 2013, 10:14:08 AM
This last episode of AoS I sort of wish they would have shown what the bracelet did and how it limit Skye some.  Don't think it was a bad episode.


It Tracks every move and probably has some crazy shield tech that allows shield to see all the technology skye interacts with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2013, 11:42:30 AM
This last episode of AoS I sort of wish they would have shown what the bracelet did and how it limit Skye some.  Don't think it was a bad episode.


It Tracks every move and probably has some crazy shield tech that allows shield to see all the technology skye interacts with.

She did state how it limited her, but they didn't go into any specifics.
Did they state what would happen if she tried to remove it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 07, 2013, 12:43:09 PM
This last episode of AoS I sort of wish they would have shown what the bracelet did and how it limit Skye some.  Don't think it was a bad episode.

It Tracks every move and probably has some crazy shield tech that allows shield to see all the technology skye interacts with.

She did state how it limited her, but they didn't go into any specifics.
Did they state what would happen if she tried to remove it?
I don't think they did.  Episode before they said what it does and its nice that she makes a nod to it but, I would have liked to see what happens if she tries.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
Person of Interest

GODDAMIT SON!!  Part 1 of 3...
Carter is running game on these fools. **** has hit the fan on this show, can't wait till next week.



Brooklyn Nine Nine


Another funny episode with quite a few quotable lines.
Quote from: 70's flashback
"I'm Raymond Holt"
 "...Are you here to turn yourself in?"
you will have to watch for context, but it was hilarious.


Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I like that this show is steadily improving with every episode, but I still wish they could speed things up a little.
This episode got the most laughs out of me of any episode so far, and maybe it was just because Brooklyn Nine Nine warmed me up and left me in a good and laughable mood, but this was a probably the best episode yet.
Only issue I can see is that from what I've heard is that Agent Hand is supposed to be a real by the book hard ass, and she looked almost broken up about what happened towards the end. I expected her to be more... mean about it all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 13, 2013, 05:59:18 AM
Person of Interest

GODDAMIT SON!!  Part 1 of 3...
Carter is running game on these fools. **** has hit the fan on this show, can't wait till next week.

Agreed. This episode just ramped things up to 11.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 13, 2013, 09:07:57 AM
Person of Interest

GODDAMIT SON!!  Part 1 of 3...
Carter is running game on these fools. **** has hit the fan on this show, can't wait till next week.



Brooklyn Nine Nine


Another funny episode with quite a few quotable lines.
Quote from: 70's flashback
"I'm Raymond Holt"
 "...Are you here to turn yourself in?"
you will have to watch for context, but it was hilarious.


Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.

I like that this show is steadily improving with every episode, but I still wish they could speed things up a little.
This episode got the most laughs out of me of any episode so far, and maybe it was just because Brooklyn Nine Nine warmed me up and left me in a good and laughable mood, but this was a probably the best episode yet.
Only issue I can see is that from what I've heard is that Agent Hand is supposed to be a real by the book hard ass, and she looked almost broken up about what happened towards the end. I expected her to be more... mean about it all.


Things change from the comics to the MCU. In the comics Maria Hill is giant bitch who has a major disdain for the avengers. The whole thing is that Hand's still human but she's more by the books than most in shield. Take in the comics she would e the first to admit that having Norman Osborn take over shield is a hella bad idea but he was actually getting results, so she was there to keep his Goblin Persona and the Dark Avengers in check. 


A better example would Hand wouldn't have delayed the nuclear bomb to let the avenger's try and win the day. She would have closed the portal and killed half of New York for the greater good.


All of the shield stuff so far with the different level's and overall shadiness will defentilty come to a head next year once Cap comes out. Now that's the fallout episode I want as it will have direct implications for shield.


 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2013, 11:21:02 AM
All of the shield stuff so far with the different level's and overall shadiness will defentilty come to a head next year once Cap comes out. Now that's the fallout episode I want as it will have direct implications for shield.

And I am damn near sure that will be the season finale tie-in episode for AoS.

Person of Interest

GODDAMIT SON!!  Part 1 of 3...
Carter is running game on these fools. **** has hit the fan on this show, can't wait till next week.

Agreed. This episode just ramped things up to 11.

They better not kill off Carter before this arc is all wrapped up.
It's being alluded to with fleshing out the back story, guardianship "just in case", main objective (HR) being executed and putting the murdered friend at rest with the killer in custody. tying up all those story threads, I would be sad to see that be the end...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 14, 2013, 10:09:29 AM
They better not kill off Carter before this arc is all wrapped up.
It's being alluded to with fleshing out the back story, guardianship "just in case", main objective (HR) being executed and putting the murdered friend at rest with the killer in custody. tying up all those story threads, I would be sad to see that be the end...


Carter has evolved from a very basic like character with a single focus (catching Reese) to an almost militant level of badassery. She even bonds with Shaw now.

I really hope Fusco doesn't die, because he has been so underused this season and the show needs him to really balance things out.

Question: have you noticed with Shaw how its hinted that she's a lesbian, or at the very least likes the idea of violence and that strange relationship she has with Root?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 14, 2013, 10:27:23 AM
Watch the newest AoS episode.  She could have just given him the responsibility instead of manipulation.  The end thing was interesting for the arching plot.  This episode was very much about the compartmentalization of Shield.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 16, 2013, 09:36:47 AM
Nick put the last four episodes of Korra It was pretty crazy and a pretty interesting twist on the new Mythos, with that said I wish the series didn't have a dues ex machine but I guess those can't be helped.  Also was happy to see Eska/Bolin get together but at the same time hated how the writers shitted all over Asami.

re:AOS

This all set up for the new captain America film. Sheild's about to go through a Major Overhaul. At this point I think its more likely that Shield creates Ultron instead of Stark or Pym.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on November 17, 2013, 03:10:13 AM
Nick put the last four episodes of Korra It was pretty crazy and a pretty interesting twist on the new Mythos, with that said I wish the series didn't have a dues ex machine but I guess those can't be helped.
Finale was great, but Beginnings were still stronger. S2 finale was probably on the same level as Korra's S1 finale, while Beginnings were full blown ATLA level of epicness.

It's too bad that bad animation studio were the ones to do last episodes instead of guys who did Beginnings. So bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on November 17, 2013, 04:57:07 AM
What are you talking about Azeke? The "bad animation studio" didn't do the finale. The last episode they did was Episode 9. Mir (the good animation studio) did Season 1, Beginnings, and 10-14. They also plan on doing Season 3 and 4 also.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Legend_of_Korra_episodes (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Legend_of_Korra_episodes)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on November 17, 2013, 07:21:29 AM
Then they lowered their bar considerably, because that was just as bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on November 17, 2013, 01:36:37 PM
I disagree and according to a lot of comments on Twitter, Tumblr, my persona facebook, and what little I can access of ASN, they disagree with you.


I thought the animation was very, very, very beautiful and fluid. Are you sure it isn't because it just looked...weird... compared to previous episodes due to what happened? If you know what I mean. I'm trying not to spoil.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 17, 2013, 06:52:01 PM
Saw the ending coming so I wasn't surprised, but it wasn't as epic as I'd hope (even though it was epic in nature...you know what I mean.)

Anyway, there wasn't enough suspense for the conclusion. In ATLA, there was a mini-arc dedicated to Aang first being scared of the Fire Lord, then not wanting to kill him. In comparison, the answer to Korra's problem was trite; another thing being pulled out of the Avatar universe to fit their needs but this time there was no conflict, no time given to full appreciate how the answer was figured out. It's really too bad when the origin story was so fulfilling in that way.

Story aside, the animation was incredible. Makes me wish M. Night Shylamamananan wasn't such a piece of **** all over again. I would LOVE to see this stuff live action.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 18, 2013, 07:53:17 AM
Almost Human - The budget is huge, it's started off with a deliberately generic style (almost exactly like Person of Interest), and Michael Ealy (Dorian) stole the show from Karl Urban.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2013, 01:45:05 PM
Almost Human - The budget is huge, it's started off with a deliberately generic style (almost exactly like Person of Interest), and Michael Ealy (Dorian) stole the show from Karl Urban.

I enjoyed the pilot episode. and the short description of this show I've seen seems accurate: Buddy Cop Blade Runner. Same type of setup but less gloomy and boring.
Have yet to sit down and watch the followup though.


Agents of SHIELD
Another good episode with a little character progression, but I would hardly call that a Tie-in episode outside of a few references and an Asgardian (that we've never seen before) and his staff being on the show. I really hope the Captain America: The Winter Soldier episode is almost as if it's happening during the movie, leads up to the movie and carries on directly after the movie. Yesterday's episode could have come on during any week as the actual connection wasn't a direct connection.

I hope the TV show and the Movie MCU become more directly entwined. I give them a pass this time since this episode was filmed long after filming for Thor 2 had been completed. But if they have any sense, they will film a few episodes on the set of Winter Soldier, using extras and characters from the movie. Shoot it all as B-roll footage, and then just use it for the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2013, 05:47:48 PM
Person of Interest: pt2 of 3

FUSCOFACE.jpg!!!!!!

CARTERNOOOOOO!!!!!!!  ;_;

I haven't seen the preview for next week, but if the body count isn't particularly high, I will be disappointed.
edit: preview for next episode  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJD5UtwL1_E


Brooklyn Nine Nine
This weeks episode was a miss for me. not a single laugh. some parts were very predictable, or maybe I just wasn't in the mood.



Banshee
I watched the 1st episode last night. I went into this show blind, but it lets you know how things are gonna be fairly quickly. In the first 3 minutes there is a prison scene, a nude sex scene, a car chase, gun shots, cars crashing and people dying. In the 10-15 minutes to follow that is a pretty gruesome fight scene, and that's when I knew I was going to like this show. then they topped it off with more nude sex, more violence and just more all around bad ass behavior.
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Post by: Sarail on November 20, 2013, 11:20:16 PM
BnM, you must have not been in the mood, as I thought it was one of the best BNNs yet. Especially the sliding down the fire department pole scene, combined with Peralta's quick-witted reply to Charles' question. Hilarious stuff.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine is definitely my favourite new show this year. Easy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on November 21, 2013, 12:35:50 AM
Oh crap.

Teen Titans go.

Latest episode features Doctor Light. You know, the one that likes to rape people.  He's shown up before, but always goofy.  He's still goofy here, but, now, he's totally hitting on Starfire and Raven.  Which is creepy.  Even more so with his background.

So crazy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on November 21, 2013, 01:00:54 AM
^ if you think that's stupid, you should read Tiny Titans (in fact everybody should):

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-T_pFeshF57A/T8d9jEIjNcI/AAAAAAAAAC0/HQSwmf6mniM/s1600/lunchlady+darkseid.jpg)

Dr. Light is also there, he is a teacher, nothing really special. Slade, though, is awesome in this book.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 21, 2013, 06:51:50 AM
Person of Interest: pt2 of 3

FUSCOFACE.jpg!!!!!!

CARTERNOOOOOO!!!!!!!  ;_;

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! I really liked Carter and wished she stayed. She brought a level of badassery to the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 21, 2013, 02:38:18 PM
Arrow

Gotta love this show. They make a reveal Moira Queen had an affair with Merlin that leads to an obvious conclusion Thea is Merlin's daughter and instead of dragging it out for dramatic reasons, they confirm it by end of episode and then move on to more interesting ****. Some of the more interesting **** being that Merlin is back after a brief trip to Tahiti the Lazarus Pit and that Brother Blood is working with a now enhanced young man by the name of Cyrus (Gold? aka Solomon Grundy?).

And Barry Allen "Crime Scene Investigator" debuts in the next episode. it's a 2 part mid-season finale. It will likely deal with some Particle Accelerator in Star City and how some events in the next two episode will change everything in a Flash. (their words, not mine).

Preview for next weeks episode.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=6V3hBkRNBKo[/youtube]

edit: Ep3 of the Arrow Miniseries - Blood Rush

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 21, 2013, 05:11:07 PM
Still plowing through Season 1 and their seriously messed up view of IT.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 28, 2013, 05:01:24 AM
Person of Interest - Part 3 of 3. What an incredible end to that story. This show has evolved from plodding and highly episodic in S1 to an incredible balance of episodic and serialised storytelling.

Angry Reese is a force of nature. Shaw off the leash is unstoppable. But Root with the power of the machine is damn near invincible and utterly badass - the two guns!!!! While i will miss Carter the show gave the best tribute possible, by showing the remaining characters directly responding to that loss rather than being at a funeral.

It's a shame this show will not see any major awards or nominations. This is easily the best show under the JJ Abrams label, by far, and it's a shame that the hype afforded to Lost isn't given to POI.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2013, 11:00:23 AM
^co-signed
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 28, 2013, 05:34:55 PM
Before I forget I like the Banter in Almost Human.
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Post by: Halbred on December 03, 2013, 12:01:44 AM
Almost Human is great. I gave up on Agents of SHIELD.

Also addicted to the Steve Harvey version of Family Feud.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 03, 2013, 08:28:39 AM
Walking Dead mid-season finale - holy ****/10
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Post by: Stogi on December 03, 2013, 07:50:49 PM
Hello Ladies (HBO)

Steven Merchent from such things as The Office (UK) and the Ricky Gervais podcast stars in this series.

Half-way through and I'm not really sure what to think of it. There are some laughs but mostly its a slice of life of the most socially inept people in history. It's excruciating to watch something so awkward and embarrassing and that's coming from a Larry David fan. The difference is Larry David would never be in those situations because he's never trying to impress people. He is who he is, unlike Steven Merchant and his female counterpart. They have no idea who they are and are desperately trying to reach their vision of what they think they could become. And that's what this show is, watching desperate people trying to impress others. It's suppose to be so I guess they did a good job?

Anyway, it's good for some laughs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2013, 10:20:45 PM
Walking Dead mid-season finale - holy ****/10
I would like to add the following: ****, ****, Goddamn it, hell and pointless fist shaking.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on December 03, 2013, 10:46:35 PM
...pointless...
I agree with your your characterisation of all things Walking Dead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
I'm just now watching yesterday's episode of Grimm, and I don't know if it's a running theme now, but just like Arrow, they made a mention of a fictional trip to Tahiti.

Is that the 2nd show to take a digg at Agents of SHIELD?

Arrow Paraphrase:
- "Where do you think you're going!!?"
+"Uhhh.... to Tahiti"

Grimm paraphrase:
+"I'll be gone for a while, got some business to take care of. If anybody ask, I'm really enjoying myself out in Tahiti"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on December 09, 2013, 09:55:59 PM
The wife and I discovered Once Upon a Time on Netflix. Great show, with interesting cross-pollination between fairy tale characters/storylines. So far they're relying a LITTLE too hard on Rumplestiltskin as the guy who drives the plotline(s), but overall I think it's great. The mayor is a good bad guy.

And it's the only time in recent memory where I've actually LIKED Jennifer Morrison's character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 11, 2013, 05:22:16 AM
2 minutes into Almost Human and it flashes MX-series android genitalia at me it has none. That said, the writing and chemistry between Dorian and Kennex is rapidly improving.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 11, 2013, 09:38:18 AM
I talk about Almost Human on NFR28 and totally forget Kennex name throughout it.  I like the chemistry between most of the characters.  Especially as they seem to be migrating out who really is the second tier.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 12, 2013, 02:18:59 AM
In related note to almost human... Robot Combat League is so, so bad. It's like Wii boxing, but with even more arm flaying as 2 poorly built and designed "Robots" slap fight each other until one of them commit suicide out from feeling impossible shame. This show is made 20 years too early.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2013, 02:24:59 AM
Arrow mid season finale - A for Awesome.

So much happened, almost all of it handled perfectly.
So much to spoiler that I'll just wait till later/tomorrow.

AoS really could take a page out of Arrows book when it comes to pacing and action.
I think they need a new choreographer for fight scenes (among other things).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 12, 2013, 11:27:51 AM
Arrow **** **** **** this show is awesome and makes Agents of shield look boring.

-Cryus Gold is Solomon Grundy
-Brother Blood being a mook
-Straight up killing supporting Cast
-setting up Roy the drug addict and Red Arrow/Arsenal, plus obvious teen love trangle.
-Laurel keep fucking up
-Deathstroke about to make team Arrow's life a living hell
-Arrow gets a mask instead of the stupid paint

-The motherfucking speed force


I really like how the team handled Barry getting his super powers. The led up had me believing that team Arrow would have been at Star Labs when the PA went off with Barry stuck in it. I liked that the Particle Accelerator went off and either shoot off speed force engery or broke a quick hole between our world and the speed force.

This episoide also confirms the casting posts for the Flash were real, since Barry had experience with someone not realizing how he felt about them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 12, 2013, 11:30:45 AM
A bit of a nerd reference bit Linda Park the news reporter covering the particle accelerator is the 2nd Flash's Wally West's wife in the comics. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: jrlibrarian on December 13, 2013, 02:12:16 AM
Oh ****. I completely forgot that part was coming in Season 2. I smashed through the first season in a few days, but I never got around to starting 2, and I'm never home when it plays on TV. Guess I should change that, starting right now.
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Post by: Khushrenada on December 13, 2013, 02:14:10 AM
I thought Arrow had kind of dropped off the last couple episodes with some moments I had a hard suspending my disbelief for. But this episode totally made up for it all and was one great scene to the next with moments I expected handled well combined with ones not expected.

I think everyone kept expecting Barry trapped in the particle accelerator. Then when he was watching the news from lab with all the bottles and lightning striking, I was wondering how or why he would suddenly get there. Were they actually going to go with the classic Flash origin? In a way, they found a way to blend that classic with new. But I had hoped to see Barry Allen using his powers before once.

Things are happening on the island much faster than anticipated. I thought the Shado/Slade/Ollie triangle would play out this season and end with some division between Slade/Ollie. With Oliver spending 5 years on the island, I wondered if the island flashbacks would carry on for 5 seasons and then at the end of those 5 seasons, we'd either know if Slade is dead or alive and see him arrive as the big villain for a possible season 6 at that point. The way the island story is going now, I wonder if the writers are deciding to wrap it up and keep everything in the present. The flashbacks were often a great part of the show but this episode, I found the present scenes more exciting and interesting which is rare.

Unless there is a surprise with Shado, I did not expect her death so soon especially with all that has happened this season for her to go out suddenly like this was a woah moment. I kept thinking Slade was going to pop out at any moment and save her and Ollie but he came too late instead. My only problem with it is that I never got that much sense of a relationship formed between her and Ollie or her and Slade. Just the beginnings of a possible relationship with either one. So, her death wasn't as impactful as might be hoped. Tommy's death was much bigger in comparison since he got a whole season to grow and have more of a connection with viewers and the main characters. It was actually really great seeing him again briefly this episode. In fact, I think I like his cameo more than Malcolm's from the last 2 episodes.

Again, the fact that Slade was shown to be a prominent business man of some kind in Starling was not something I saw coming or anticipated having Slade join the present day so soon. I thought Rochov was going to be the main villain of the season but then that changed to Brother Blood and then possibly Ivo who could be aiding Brother Blood in the present day from his time on the island but now it could be Slade. The threats to Ollie are piling up. And there is still the daughter of Ra's Al Ghul to come into play yet. On the subject of Rochov, I wonder if she is also working for Slade and sent to take over Queen Industries for Slade's plan of taking down Oliver.

With the way things are going on this show, probably won't have to wait long for an answer. And I'll just say that Felicity is now my favorite character on this show. The writers always give her some funny line each episode usually a double entendre of some sort. In this case, her Jewish background. Any plans for Christmas? Light my menorah. Comedy gold.

Even Laural wasn't annoying! Top notch stuff.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 13, 2013, 09:23:49 AM
Watched Episode 5 of Almost Human.  I'm upset it didn't start in the Bar with Rudy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 17, 2013, 02:42:07 AM
American Dad - Another amazing christmas episode. They seem to have these seasonal episodes down perfectly.

Family Guy - Any show that features a time machine as a core component of the show can use it to undo any changes. And so Brian came back. Plus it was obvious he was coming back because he was mentioned in titles of future episodes
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Post by: oohhboy on December 22, 2013, 01:34:26 AM
Up to the second episode of Almost Human. A very strong episode. As long as they keep the writing strong and shenanigans high like a knife in the leg and trashing MXs, I will keep watching. I wish they didn't load the pilot with an over arcing mystery. The character interaction between Dorian and John is more than strong enough to hold the show together without a mystery box to bait you along.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 23, 2013, 09:29:02 AM
I finished Futurama. I liked the ending. It was probably my favorite of the four intended endings to the series and I thought it was appropriate to use time travel and being frozen in time as plot points. They keep it open for movies or any sort of follow up stories, but you know, I think this one works and I wouldn't be upset at Futurama being left as is. When Fox unceremoniously cancelled Futurama in 2003 (albeit unofficially), the show didn't feel like it was finished. The producers didn't have a chance to tie up loose ends and write an appropriate end with a gradual move in the direction to an appropriate conclusion. I'm glad they finally did because Futurama is a show that really deserved it and had the talent to do so in a really great way.

Three of my favorite shows ended this year (30 Rock, Breaking Bad, and Futurama) and I feel like they all did well wrapping up. I'd contrast that to Lost where it didn't feel like the writers were prepared for the end even though they had 17 episodes to get there. They kind of stalled until the final three or four episodes (and that's being generous).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on December 23, 2013, 10:39:03 AM
Coincidentally, i also finished Futurama last night. I actually thought that i've done with it when finale aired but apparently i missed most of the Season 7. Which is understandable because of how terribe some of the episodes in season 6 were. They went too topical and satire for things i can onky shrug at (like Scooby Doo, Smurfs and other things i can't even recognize).

The ending was really good though. They even managed to give good ending to Zoidberg.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 27, 2013, 05:14:31 PM
Rewatching Nu-who and just got to series 2.


But i'm mostly here to talk about this year's christmas episode. I haven't watched any Clara related episoides but this and the 50th so her as a character, but she seems to be the worse character traits of both rose and Martha, being a deux ex machina and having the whole unrequited crush plot line. The story itself it worked as a culmination of everything that had played out till than similar to the last episode of Tennnt's run being a culmination of all the story points to the end. I did like how the ending was much less bombastic than the end of time however, while that story action and bombast up to the end this was much more held back in terms of action.


Out of the three things I've seen to celebrate the 50th this has to be my least favorite but on its own its probably the 2nd best of the modern christmas episodes.




Overall of what I've seen of Eleven's reign I like it alot less than 9 and 10's. I found the RTD period to be much more fun and campy as well as having massive world building with things like Sarah Jane Smith and Torchwood. I kind of hated how Moffait pretty much ignored all of that world building and having most of the spin offs killed off. I would love to see audio drama or something about Miracle Day or Unit. Plus I felt like time rectoning modern day humans knowing alien's existed was terrible.  I think **** like that goes against the essence of who


Taking it as seperately however the series was pretty damn awesome with Amy and Roy being the 2nd best companions on the show thus far
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 28, 2013, 06:48:57 PM
I kind of hated how Moffait pretty much ignored all of that world building and having most of the spin offs killed off.

Torchwood is on ice because of RTD. Sarah Jane Adventures was cancelled because Elizabeth Sladen died - neither of those are to do with Moffat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on December 29, 2013, 02:37:42 PM
@shingi I always felt that Amy was just Rose if Rose picked Mickey (and if Mickey were killed like 18 times and erased from existence.)

That said you're top two companions is heavily flawed without the inclusion of The Brigadier and Donna as 1 and 2 respectively.

I kind of hated how Moffait pretty much ignored all of that world building and having most of the spin offs killed off.

Torchwood is on ice because of RTD. Sarah Jane Adventures was cancelled because Elizabeth Sladen died - neither of those are to do with Moffat.
Torchwood should have ended with Children of Earth
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on January 08, 2014, 12:47:35 AM
Well my picks were only from Nu Who

I'm watching Micrale Day and I like the monster of week stuff more. I do like the new Torchwood team, and the idea that if Unit is the whoniverse equilvent of shield, that makes torchwood the Secret Warriors of the universe.

I kind of hope during Calpai's regin we see another Torchwood series and more older who actors come back. Was a bit miffed we didn't see Jack or Mratha interact with 11.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 08, 2014, 03:56:10 AM
A reveal was made about Agent Coulson tonite. It was a very WTF moment and kinda creepy.

Pretty good episode overall.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 08, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
Well my picks were only from Nu Who

I'm watching Micrale Day and I like the monster of week stuff more. I do like the new Torchwood team, and the idea that if Unit is the whoniverse equilvent of shield, that makes torchwood the Secret Warriors of the universe.

I kind of hope during Calpai's regin we see another Torchwood series and more older who actors come back. Was a bit miffed we didn't see Jack or Mratha interact with 11.
Torchwood Jumped the Shark when it stopped being monster of the week so pretty early.  There was a great Paramount show that aired after Enterprise's first season that should have been what Torchwood was more like.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on January 08, 2014, 03:31:12 PM
I dont think it jumped the shark so much as they kept killing off cast without replacing them.

It MD and COTE actually make sense from a narrative direction l, when the who series itself always played with the fact that the doctor the walking deus ex machina won't always be their. We see it pretty well in Turn Left were the world goes too ****. It makes sense that stuff like the two torchwood series.

That's why it never made sense that the doctor was pissed at Torchwood blowing up the ship in the Christmas episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 08, 2014, 06:18:25 PM
Person of Interest - This was a great episode, especially with how they split all the groups from each other and played Cat & Mouse, but it turns out that the morse code the machine played to Control was REAL!

(The scene when Control brought the phone in it starts beeping. From there.)

http://www.reddit.com/r/PersonOfInterest/comments/1up00n/decoded_the_morse_code_spoilers/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/PersonOfInterest/comments/1up00n/decoded_the_morse_code_spoilers/)


This show continues to impress me with how they keep juggling story arcs, some times over a season later, and just bring it back into the mix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 08, 2014, 08:22:41 PM
Sherlock Season 3, episode 1.

Motherfucking brilliant! It's less of an episode and more of a feature film. I didn't think they could have topped themselves after season 2, but they managed it with stylish British flair without breaking a sweat while wearing tweed.

RE: Torchwood. He was pissed because the Doctor doesn't like unnecessary killing. Also the aliens were mean to serve as a warning to the rest of the universe that Earth was "Protected". He clearly outlined his intentions to the PM after old Torchwood blew up the ship. Unless I am mistaken as to which episode you are referring to....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 08, 2014, 09:58:31 PM
Sherlock 3x01 was underwhelming. Way too much fluff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on January 08, 2014, 10:23:22 PM
Sherlock s03e01, bloody brilliant. That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on January 08, 2014, 10:55:43 PM
Sherlock s03e01, bloody brilliant. That is all.

What?! I have to side with Azeke a bit on this one. Wasn't going to say anything until I see all the episodes of season 3 though so just you wait and I'll tell you how you were wrong. Ha ha ha.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 08, 2014, 11:10:16 PM
There were what... two "cases" this time? One took less a minute and the solution was super underwhelming and the other one was somehow even more underwhelming.

Oh and here is a new mysterious villain in the shadows in the end!.. Totally not Moriarty puppet master kind of guy!.. See, he wears glasses and he's older! Nothing similar at all!

The entire episode was more about relationship between Watson and Holmes which is fine if you swing that way. Some of my best friends like sappy romantic comedies too... Not like i judge that kind of stuff...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on January 08, 2014, 11:35:51 PM
This episode was more about Watson and Sherlock, which I don't mind at all. For what it's worth, the next episode was like ten times better.


EDIT: Why are you guys behind?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on January 09, 2014, 01:04:17 AM
Oh, I'm not behind, Oblivion. I was just stating the same feeling toward episode one as oohhboy had done.

And yup. The next episode is just as fantastic, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 09, 2014, 03:17:53 AM
Sherlock Season 3 ep 1 - There was a lot of padding going on in this episode judging by the amount of tube scenes. Take all of that padding out and it probably came up 7-10 minutes too short.

But living in London, and knowing the tube, it's amazing how they managed to screw that up how badly.

Video in the footage is a Jubilee line train thats round, clearly. Yellow shaded handrails. Watson is on it at the start. Bomb is on a District line train that's got green handrails, and is square.

Pull up a Tube map and lookie here http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-london-underground-lines-in-sherlock-are-all-wrong (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-london-underground-lines-in-sherlock-are-all-wrong)

Never mind there is no abandoned sections of track or sidings in that area.

At least do it properly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 09, 2014, 03:43:07 AM
You can't do it "properly". They are not going to shut down a working underground system just to shoot a film no matter who you are. Its a case of making do with what they had and editing it together.

I watch Sherlock mostly because of the interplay between Sherlock and Watson as well as their friends (Molly <3). Your crime procedural are a dime a dozen. If you want one of those, go watch Law and order, SVU, CSI #, NCIS #, Bones until your brains bleed out of your ears. You watch Sherlock for what Sherlock has, or you might as well watch Elementary for all the good it's going to do you.

It's the same with Almost Human, future crime is cool, but it's the shenanigans between Dorian and John is why I stay. Trashing MXs never gets old.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on January 09, 2014, 04:08:50 AM
Sherlock Season 3 ep 1 - There was a lot of padding going on in this episode judging by the amount of tube scenes. Take all of that padding out and it probably came up 7-10 minutes too short.

But living in London, and knowing the tube, it's amazing how they managed to screw that up how badly.

Video in the footage is a Jubilee line train thats round, clearly. Yellow shaded handrails. Watson is on it at the start. Bomb is on a District line train that's got green handrails, and is square.

Pull up a Tube map and lookie here http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-london-underground-lines-in-sherlock-are-all-wrong (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/the-london-underground-lines-in-sherlock-are-all-wrong)

Never mind there is no abandoned sections of track or sidings in that area.

At least do it properly.


I think the appropriate response to this is "who gives a ****?" To people complaining about the lack of "cases" or small details being wrong... oohhboy is completely right. What makes Sherlock special is the cases but how Sherlock, John, Molly, Mrs. Hudson, Lestrade, etc. interact and play off one another (especially Mary. She's adding a very nice third party role to the Sherlock/John dynamic that just tickles my fancy. Doesn't help that Martin Freeman and Mary actress are dating in real life so they have just great chemistry).


In any case, what tube scenes do you think counts as padding?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 09, 2014, 04:16:11 AM
All of them where it's just showing things but normally would be cut as its extraneous. Like Watson going to Baker Street. Things like the footage itself is fine, but lots of establishing shots and the like was used and they just kept going.

In comparison, episode 2 was fantastic and zippy to the point where it felt as dense as normal - but Sherlock's speech awkwardly dovetailing into realising there's a murderer in the room was very well acted.

For most people the complaint i pointed out may fall into "who cares?" but when you use it in daily life it tends to snap you out of it. Especially as everything else has been quite accurate up to now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 09, 2014, 06:03:59 AM
I wouldn't say "who gives a ****" as Oblivion said, but knowing why the inconsistencies are there makes them a non-factor. At worse, entirely forgivable since it wasn't out of incompetence or laziness.

The establishing shots weren't just "establishing shots" as they were there to visually show a state of mind, themes, the passage of time. Some of them weren't establishing shots, they were show, not tell.

Episode 2: I couldn't stop laughing during the entire drunk sequence. I was close to passing out when it got to drunk  Sherlock vision in the apartment.. Another brilliant episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 09, 2014, 09:37:44 AM
...
It's the same with Almost Human, future crime is cool, but it's the shenanigans between Dorian and John is why I stay. Trashing MXs never gets old.
I'm a little behind but my computer ran out of power last night before I finished watching the Unlucky DRN Episode.  I have to say getting an ex-Criminal by mistake that allows a car to run over a hydrant that shoots in the air to take out a flying drone that butchers an MX.  I had to laugh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 12, 2014, 09:27:43 PM
Almost Human has been disappointing me lately. The "psychic" episode was a complete dud, and last week's bomb-collar episode was incredibly by-the-numbers, formulaic, and predictable. I appreciate that they can't all be five-star episodes, but this show should not be running out of cool futuristic criminal ideas yet. It's the first season!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on January 13, 2014, 03:07:47 AM
Great Sherlock finale. I wonder if they won't explain what happened in the next season either :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 13, 2014, 03:09:50 AM
Almost Human has been definitely ticking over in autopilot the last few episodes.

I'm hoping the show takes a good look at Person of Interest and introduces a whole range of recurring enemies and plotlines rather than just one big bad. It's what makes POI so damn good.

And on another note, Tatiana Maslany did not win Best Actress for anything at the Golden Globes? Yet more scifi snubbing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 13, 2014, 10:41:43 AM
Sherlock 3x03

Damn, that last episode! Second episode was also very good (after rather hollow first one), but this one.. Wow!..

I really like how they're staying true to original book, because i initially raised an eyebrow when Mary just showed up because there was supposed to be a story about her (original "Sign of Four") but it made for such a great resolution.

Blackmailer was originally part of the Moriarty's network, in fact his case started the whole thing which ended with Reichenbach Falls. He made for a great villain taken individually.

Wow!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2014, 12:04:20 PM
Enlisted (Fox)
Pretty funny and pretty accurate description of Stripes (1981 - Bill Murray) reimagined for TV today.

Helix (SyFy)
Contagion meets The Host/The Thing. CDC goes to a secret Antarctic research facility to contain and identify an unidentified and deadly infection. Things do not go as planned and there is more to this than originally thought. So far (2 episode premiere) I'm interested and tuning in for more.


Host of Lies & Shameless have also started back up (Showtime). Solid premieres that leave me wanting to see where the season goes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2014, 02:08:52 PM
Person of Interest is back too.
Another good episode, and the next one sounds good too.

Here is an interview with the show creators that reveal some insights into what "The Machine" is and where the season is headed.
http://io9.com/person-of-interests-producers-tell-us-what-the-machine-1498754032
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2014, 02:29:20 AM
Arrow came back on tonite. There was something very distracting going on but can't quite put my finger on it...

(http://i.imgur.com/JgggsSA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/14IGzJS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jYQhkds.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 16, 2014, 04:41:10 AM
Season 3 of Sherlock. Damn this show knows how to flick my face in just the right way. Season 4/5 comfirmed (http://www.joblo.com/movie-news/sherlock-creator-steven-moffat-confirms-two-more-seasons-of-sherlock-are-coming).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 16, 2014, 08:18:23 AM
I'm a bit behind so i need to watch Helix, and Almost Human, American Dad and Family Guy.

I also had an interest in Intelligence, but episode one premiered at 16m viewers, episode 2 is 6m. With a drop that large it's fate has probably already been sealed. I'll watch episode 1 to see if it's worth it.

Sherlock episode 3 - while i did enjoy the episode, one thing (as is frequently the case with Moffat episodes) one thing stuck out. What happened with Lady Smallwood's letters? The entire opening sequence was devoted to them, she goes to get Sherlock, he breaks into Magnusson's house, finds Mary and..... then what? He just introduces a plot point, then drops it half way through.

Person of Interest - great to see Reese back in the fold again. He just needed to beat some people up and get his mojo back. Hersh asking "does your new employer treat you right?" to Shaw was priceless.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 16, 2014, 04:45:05 PM
Arrow came back on tonite. There was something very distracting going on but can't quite put my finger on it...

(http://i.imgur.com/JgggsSA.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/14IGzJS.jpg)

(http://i.imgur.com/jYQhkds.jpg)

As much as I love Arrow, I made another meme pic in a moment of inspiration

(http://imgur.com/DagAWSP.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 17, 2014, 04:20:04 PM
For those of you that haven't caught up on one of NBC's best new shows Hannibal, you've got a little over a month to do so, because Season 2 starts Feb 28th.

Short S2 Teaser
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 20, 2014, 04:26:27 AM
For all you Sherlock fans in here, have you read this?
http://www.avclub.com/article/its-elementary-sherlock-how-the-cbs-procedural-sur-200870

It states how the CBS show Elementary surpasses the BBC show Sherlock in many ways, starting with Sherlock himself.

What do this if you that have watched both think? And if you like Sherlock and haven't seen Elementary, do you plan on checking it out now?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 20, 2014, 04:40:09 AM
I stopped reading as soon as it said that the american TV model "allowed Elementary to breathe".

That same model is what has killed countless shows by simply being too long per season.

Person of Interest is, arguably, the only show that has multiple plotlines (there's about 7 so far) running simultaneously but smartly tying them to an individual character, rather than everyone, to prevent the burnout by having a single storyline everyone is engaged in.

Is three episodes of Sherlock every 2 years too little? Yes. But i can cope with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 20, 2014, 05:27:50 AM
My polite response to that article is to tell the author of it to go get his head examined.

Elementary at its heart is a by the numbers procedural with a coat of paint that American audiences have seen before but don't recognize as the same. CSI was all about the case until they tangled their case of the week in to "Personal" character show mostly by shooting at them for drama. Elementary is just a continuation of that with a British accent.

Sherlock is something grander than a TV show. It's so clever and inventive not only in story, but in visualization, messaging, camera work, playfulness that it makes make the feature films made with 10x the budget green with envy in all but the most expensive scenes. Its so arrogant sometimes the show itself is a character as a reflection of Holmes.

I want so many more episodes of Sherlock, but I would never, ever ask them to sacrifice a Plank length of quality if it wasn't ready. I want more Molly!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 20, 2014, 06:01:53 AM
Unsurprisingly, my comments about the season length on there is being downvoted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 20, 2014, 07:27:39 AM
True Detective 1x02

First episode was very good. Great acting from both leads.

First episode was more about McConaughey's character who is completely nuts, second one was more Harrelson's character who at least at first appears to goody two shoes "just regular dude".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on January 20, 2014, 01:29:55 PM
Is three episodes of Sherlock every 2 years too little? Yes. But i can cope with it.


There was a one year gap between season one and two. There's a two year gap with 2 and 3 only. I seriously doubt it would take another 2 years with season 4.


For all you Sherlock fans in here, have you read this?
http://www.avclub.com/article/its-elementary-sherlock-how-the-cbs-procedural-sur-200870 (http://www.avclub.com/article/its-elementary-sherlock-how-the-cbs-procedural-sur-200870)

It states how the CBS show Elementary surpasses the BBC show Sherlock in many ways, starting with Sherlock himself.

What do this if you that have watched both think? And if you like Sherlock and haven't seen Elementary, do you plan on checking it out now?


I've seen Elementary. That article is idiotic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 20, 2014, 01:32:42 PM
I haven't watched either of the shows, but I will say that, while I generally like the AV Club, they will occasionally go a bit off the deep end with an editorial. One in particular I remember was calling the show The Good Wife the new The Wire.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 20, 2014, 04:24:33 PM
Is three episodes of Sherlock every 2 years too little? Yes. But i can cope with it.


There was a one year gap between season one and two. There's a two year gap with 2 and 3 only. I seriously doubt it would take another 2 years with season 4.


Season 1's UK airdate was July 2010.
Season 2 was January 2012.
Season 3 was January 2014.


Granted there was only an 18 month gap between S1 and 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on January 20, 2014, 07:41:34 PM
First episode of True Detective blew me away. Can't watch the second one yet until my folks come over so I don't have to watch it twice. HOWEVER, I will say that I got a lot more out of my second viewing of the first episode. Maybe I should just do the same for episode two.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 21, 2014, 12:37:41 AM
^ There are two very good and squishy reasons for you to look forward in episode 2. Episode isn't as amazing but still very solid, case seemingly stops dead and we get more character analysis instead but with such good leads there are no reason to complain.


Personally i'm looking forward to Shea Wigham's character, he appears to be some kind of preacher in this show... He was really good in Boardwalk Empire.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on January 22, 2014, 05:51:12 PM
Sherlock is something grander than a TV show. It's so clever and inventive not only in story, but in visualization, messaging, camera work, playfulness that it makes make the feature films made with 10x the budget green with envy in all but the most expensive scenes. Its so arrogant sometimes the show itself is a character as a reflection of Holmes
I could say similar things about the revived series of Doctor Who which Moffat also had a huge hand in (although Slyvester Mccoy began to explore a darker side to the doctor towards the end of his run).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on January 27, 2014, 08:29:18 PM
Been binging on Pawn Stars, thanks to Hul... the internet. Man I have gotten good at guessing prices. This would be a good one to get drunk with your friends and make bets over appraisals, and who is going to accept/reject the deals.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 10, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
I finished Pushing Daisies yesterday (thanks, Amazon Prime). It was okay. Wonderfalls was better.

I went back to Fringe. I'm in the middle of season three. I kind of remember where I am, something about alternate unverses and a machine that only reacts to Peter. The show started off really strong then started to drag in season two after the opener. I heard seasons four and five are awesome so I'm trying to soldier on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on February 10, 2014, 10:53:38 AM
True Detective 1x04 Who goes there?

DAAAAAAAAMN.

The range this series has -- from slow ass thriller to drug fueled action all in within one episode.

Damn, this is good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 10, 2014, 12:31:06 PM
Bitten:

Something Vanderhooven.... or the blonde chick that played Super girl on smallvilleAnd the alien daughter on V starts the show off completely naked complete with full side Boob shot including nip I think. Not even 2 minutes after that, she is getting naked again... And I think twice more later in the episode... seems to be a running theme in this show.
Oh, did I mention this is about werewolves? I've only watched the first episode but if that's how this show goes, I'll l check out the next 2 or 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 14, 2014, 11:50:30 AM
House of Cards s2e1 (ch14)

Hot Diggity Damn, that was some unexpected ****.
I'm just watching, all relaxed and then DAYUM!!! WTF. Did that just happen!!?
completely unexpected. what a way to start the new season off.


and that ending shot.... damn. savage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 15, 2014, 10:12:43 AM
Betware the Batman S1 e1 through half of episode four.

Boy, this was poorly done. The animation looks really cheap and Gotham City is a Ghost town. Me and My Cousin joked that they had not finished rendering the people or the cars yet. Or the trees.

Wayne Manor is as conspicuous as Christ the Redeemer in Brazil.

Alfred is a cockney thug. At least he has a manlier face than baby faced pretty boy Bruce Wayne

Half the characters look like they are wearing S&M Costumes.

They screwed up Anarky

Toad and Professor Pyg were dull and stupid

Batman's face transforms into a praying mantis head when wearing the cowl.

Batman somehow doesn't have a secret entrance to the Manor when it is in security lockdown, so he crashes a motorcycle through the roof.

Poorly executed without even mentioning their use of C tier villians. Was there some sort of contract issue?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 15, 2014, 10:17:20 AM
They wanted to use the lesser-known villains because they didn't want to do "just another Joker story."

Which is why their turning of Anarchy into a cheap copy of the Joker is even worse.

It really was a piss-poor series and the fact that they cancelled Green Lantern and/or Young Justice (which I'll fully admit, both series had problems, but not to the scale of BtB) just really irks me to no end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 15, 2014, 09:43:00 PM
House of Cards s2e1 (ch14)

Hot Diggity Damn, that was some unexpected ****.
I'm just watching, all relaxed and then DAYUM!!! WTF. Did that just happen!!?
completely unexpected. what a way to start the new season off.


and that ending shot.... damn. savage.

I just finished ep7

This show has me hooked all over again. I still look forward to OITNB (coming Jun 6th), but I think they have another good season on their hands.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 16, 2014, 04:49:48 PM
Jeri Ryan has just landed in Helix.

It just took a serious step up in watchability with her on screen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 18, 2014, 01:45:09 AM
The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

I never would have guessed 5 years ago that Jimmy Fallon would ever host The Tonight Show, but he did a great job. I was sad and disappointed when it was taken away from Conan O'Brien, but to be honest it's wasn't a perfect fit. The thing that I like about Jimmy Fallon is when he has guests, he has real conversations with them, and anyone who is on seems like they are best friends. That might change with the type of guests that he'll probably be getting but we'll see. Glad to see The Roots are still The Roots (and not "The Tonight Show Band."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 18, 2014, 03:28:23 AM
Now that Jay Leno's gone I may actually watch it sometime. I never forgave him for what he did to Conan.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 22, 2014, 08:39:47 AM
House of Cards Season 2

Its house of card but without jumping the shark half way like it did the first season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 22, 2014, 09:43:07 AM
Can I let you guys in on my terrible secret?

I've become obsessed with a reality show.  To make matter worse, it's a cooking show.

My wife, who is insane, watches tons of Food Network crap.  I don't understand cooking all day, then coming home and watching cooking shows, but whatever.

Anywhoo, there's a show called "Cutthroat Kitchen".  It's amazing.  Basically, during the competition, the host auctions off sabotages that the chefs can use against the other chefs.  Things from having your chicken replaced with a whole canned chicken (ugh), to having all your knives replaced with an utility knife.  Then, there's the insane stuff, like having a potato masher duct-taped to your hand.  Or having to find your eggs, butter and flour for baking a birthday cake inside a bunch of other presents (while your competitor is making their cake and the clock is ticking!).

After it's all over, the judge comes down to judge their dishes... and the judge knows nothing about the crazy stuff they've gone through to make their dishes.

You should watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on February 22, 2014, 12:17:21 PM
Watched the last episode of Shield, was pretty boring even if it did have some cool moments. The worst part was this was the type of episode that hinged on the last 15 minutes and that was spoiled a week early when Marvel let it slip that dethlok was coming.


Started house of cards and I'm nearly done with the first season. Pretty great shoe thus far.

Watched the first two seasons of being human and man it seems like Josh is the only likable character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2014, 12:48:36 PM
I've tried watching True Detective ep1 about 3 times now....

either I have ADD and don't get what the **** they are talking about*, or this show is extremely boring with their monotone talk throughout the episode that causes me to constantly let my mind wander while I stare at the screen.

I keep hearing how awesome this show is, but I can't get into it.
and I even tried to watch episode 2, but the monotone was so monotone, that I eventually forgot I was watching it when I got up to do something real quick and didn't come back for 15 minutes... forgot to pause.

Can someone please just give me the Episode 1 summary of what's going on in this show (who they are, what/who they are investigating) so that I know I haven't missed something. If you must spoil part of ep2 to do that effectively, then do so. Nothing to lose at this point if I never get into the show.




*I kinda understand what's going on, but it's all guess work. I feel lost and therefore losing interest in continuing. help. It doesn't help that I've only tried to watch it later in the night, not exactly late night, but for some reason the monotone nature of the show makes my mind wander... or attention to focus on something else.


ps. Why does Woody look younger in the present interview than he does in the flashback investigation?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on February 24, 2014, 04:28:05 AM
True Detective 1x06:
Not much happens with actual investigation, it's mostly family drama stuff.

But the amazing performance from all sides sell it even if this particular episode does feel a bit redundant because basically all events in this episode we can already infer or expect from previous episodes.

1x04 was amazing because of THAT scene (eat your heart out, Cuaron). 1x05 was great because it great time jump scene with tiara (eat your heart out, Malick).

06 doesn't have anything like that, but a few scenes are really great, like Marty eating his pasta like a boss.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 27, 2014, 01:24:16 AM
Arrow is back and this episode was in point

So many moments were had, lots of them very awkward, all of them great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 06, 2014, 07:37:25 AM
Person of Interest just came back from the olympics-induced hiatus with another fantastic episode that did a lot of backstory for everyone.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2014, 12:29:16 PM
Person of Interest just came back from the olympics-induced hiatus with another fantastic episode that did a lot of backstory for everyone.

This show is consistently awesome. The depth and complexity of the characters and the world they portray here is fascinating, and the action is always top notch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 07, 2014, 03:01:35 AM
Person of Interest just came back from the olympics-induced hiatus with another fantastic episode that did a lot of backstory for everyone.

This show is consistently awesome. The depth and complexity of the characters and the world they portray here is fascinating, and the action is always top notch.

Agreed. When you think about it, POI has completely nailed both flashbacks and "flash sideways" (that Lost stumbled on) via the machine reviewing old footage and the relevant numbers .

At first i thought the machine would become a crutch to the show but its fast become the central character.

To anyone who hasn't watched it, or is undecided to then i recommend to give it a try. The first 10 episodes is almost entirely laying the ground rules for how this will work. Then it expands outward into the brilliance it is today.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 07, 2014, 09:13:04 AM
I want to watch Person of Interest but without jumping hoops I like to start from the beginning and I'm cheap.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 07, 2014, 11:25:22 AM
The cheapest way is too visit the bay.

Unfortunately it isn't streaming on Netflix.
It could be on Hulu, but you would still have commercials.
And it's not streaming for free under Amazon Prime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 07, 2014, 11:46:06 AM
The cheapest way is too visit the bay.

Unfortunately it isn't streaming on Netflix.
It could be on Hulu, but you would still have commercials.
And it's not streaming for free under Amazon Prime.
It's on CBS's site and I think its on Hulu Plus if memory serves.  Can't go back to even the beginning of this season if I'm remember right.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 08, 2014, 01:54:33 AM
OMG @ Hannibal tonite....

The opening scene was disgusting brutal. I love that NBC has become what it has become, otherwise this show may have never been. They are pushing limits for explicits when it comes to violence, nudity and things of a graphic & disturbing nature on just this show alone, and that's just the dressing to what is a FANTASTIC psychological thriller, with emphasis on the PSYCHO portion of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sundoulos on March 08, 2014, 05:39:43 PM
The cheapest way is too visit the bay.

Unfortunately it isn't streaming on Netflix.
It could be on Hulu, but you would still have commercials.
And it's not streaming for free under Amazon Prime.
It's on CBS's site and I think its on Hulu Plus if memory serves.  Can't go back to even the beginning of this season if I'm remember right.

The online streaming at CBS and Hulu plus only started a few months ago, I think.  For some reason, for the longest time Warner Brothers didn't license the show for streaming (even via CBS's site) or purchase online, which is kind of backwards when you consider the show's premise.    We cut cable before season 2 ended, and it was frustrating to discover that I couldn't easily legally watch the episodes after they aired.   

That being said, it's my favorite current show right now. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 09, 2014, 09:38:54 PM
Last episode of True Detective tonight makes me sad. It's such a good show, I wish it wouldn't end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 09, 2014, 11:57:50 PM
Cosmos - **** yeah/10!

Walking Dead - also **** yeah/10!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 13, 2014, 10:13:22 AM
I just discovered Till Death on Netflix, I am a sitcom junkie and I thought cool the guy from Raymond who could actually act. So far I am mid way through season 2 and it's losing my interest already. Season 1 was a slow start but it got going near the end, season 2 just kind of feels forced.


I am waiting impatiently for Netflix to get the last season of How I Met Your Mother, I missed the first half, watched a couple random episodes and decided not to watch anymore till I can see them all and Hulu does not have them all so I might catch the finale and then go back once Netflix gets them all.


I have Green Arrow and a couple other super hero shows in my list to watch but I am saving those for the summer when I have more time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on March 13, 2014, 10:40:43 AM
The First half of the Last season of How I Met You Mother is a slog.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 13, 2014, 02:19:22 PM
to be honest I stopped caring once Marvin was born by then the show was clearly dragging on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 15, 2014, 02:26:56 AM
Aw, me and the wife like 'Til Death's first two seasons. The next two...are just bad.

Now, let's talk about True Detective. Anyone want to talk about True Detective? Such an amazing series, so sad it's over. I'm not sure how I feel about the final episode. It was a little too straightforward considering what had come before. I dunno, I have to watch it again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 15, 2014, 02:32:30 AM
True Detective never did any story twists and always was very straightforward in terms of investigation progress, so why i don't why you expected different in the finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 15, 2014, 03:10:02 PM
I stopped watching Til Death it got real stupid real fast. I think the last one I watched he was learning how to swim or the one with his new convertible somewhere in there.

I moved on to Community, since I just signed up for Hulu I decided to give that a watch through, I've watched a few episodes here and there and it always looked really stupid but seeing it from the beginning I am starting to really like it now. I would say 9/10

Till Death I say 5/10 but I can't watch anymore for a while those last two episodes I saw just killed the show for me.


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on March 15, 2014, 05:42:03 PM
I heard the last season of Till Death is pretty self aware.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 15, 2014, 09:01:17 PM
It is, actually. The daughter's boyfriend becomes convinced that he's living in a sitcom. It's a pretty funny subplot.

@azeke: Lots of things kind of left unanswered: why'd he leave Dora Lang's body for people to find it? Why all the references to The Yellow King with no payoff? Why did the Tuttle connection just kind of get dropped? Who killed Reverend Tuttle? What about the "new" case that Cohle & Hart were being interviewed about? That never went ANYWHERE. And the connection to Errol Childress was so poorly conceived: maybe his ears had paint on them? Really? That's the best you can do? What painter gets paint on their ears? And nobody figured that out in 1995?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 15, 2014, 11:26:47 PM
Lots of things kind of left unanswered: why'd he leave Dora Lang's body for people to find it? Why all the references to The Yellow King with no payoff? Why did the Tuttle connection just kind of get dropped? Who killed Reverend Tuttle? What about the "new" case that Cohle & Hart were being interviewed about? That never went ANYWHERE.
Most of it can be easily figured by yourself or don't matter.


Errol wasn't the Yellow King that was either former head of the cult or even some god that they idolized. Tuttle connection wasn't dropped, it's being pursued, Billy Lee was killed by remnants of the cult (that has long gone inactive).


From what i remember Lange's body wasn't left to be found, but the body in new case was. This is explained using the same simplest hollywood serial killer logic: he wanted to be caught.



Most of the case is is shown in the first two-three episodes, all after that is regurgitating the same facts and they don't introduce anything new.


It's all trivial.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 16, 2014, 10:12:54 AM
I don't have cable so if I can't get it on Netflix or Hulu I don't watch it, and I just got Hulu this past week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 16, 2014, 11:45:25 PM
GameCenter CX in Budokan (http://www.sa-gccx.com/episode/arinos-challenge-in-budokan):

Amazing. Mario segment went a bit too long though, they should have cut majority of Arino's lame play there (seriously, how one person can be told not to jump repeatedly and go under Bowser, yet still jump time after time after time after time).

Derby Stallion segment was especially touching. Ogawa finally made it!

Veronica Mars The Movie:
It's like two-three episodes of the show. Which is great. Rather violent and talky. I forgot most of the cast, but it was still nice to see some familiar faces.

The outcome in terms of shipping is kinda shakey, but i gather they went for fanservice here (after all this entire thing IS fan-service and fan-paid).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 17, 2014, 10:20:51 AM
Can I just say that sometimes child actors are absolutely horrible.
Last night's TWD was a prime example of that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 18, 2014, 04:05:48 AM
Rick and Morty 1x08 Rixty Minutes


AAAAAAAMAZING!

With last say three episodes R&M has now overtaken Futurama in the "sorta sci-fi, sorta comedy" genre.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2014, 01:15:10 PM
Psych s8e9

The funniest episode of this show in a long time, if not ever.
Gus has nightmares. Goes to see a "Dream Shrink".  Good times are had.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 20, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Person of Interest - DAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMN. The Machine must be orchestrating all of this. Root with the Firmware Upgrade was another touch of brilliance.

Continuum season 3 started this week and finally set about a clear set of instructions with how time travel works too.

I watched Believe also this wee. The chemistry between the young girl and the lead actor is surprisingly good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2014, 02:26:01 PM
Psych - Series Finale ;_;

It was a good episode. with a few surprise celebrity guest appearances
another friend of a Cosby kid & Val Kilmer
a connection was made that was unexpected by me
since they moved to SF, Monk was still in operation, and working the case
and it was actually quite touching near the end.

Hopefully they do follow up with that unexpected connection. A Xmas or Halloween Special or something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 24, 2014, 04:49:41 PM
I am all caught up on Community, I am not liking this new season as much. I won't go into why but part of it is losing Chevy Chase, he was the hook that got me into the show. I also did not care for the VHS episode, it almost ruined those two characters for me entirely. I still like the show but I can tell it is going to a place I don't want it to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 24, 2014, 09:48:25 PM
Yeah, the show is moving in an awkward direction after Chevy and Donald left. There's clearly a void, and for like one episode it felt like Abed's new girlfriend might fill one of the roles, but I don't know where that story's headed. I don't think Harmon knows where to take the series now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2014, 02:07:04 PM
Rick and Morty....

Holy **** is this show funny. I mean, it's intelligent, quick, and the plot scripting is top notch. There's never a need to wrap things in a nice little bow if the show's starting premise doesn't allow for it or is too short to begin with. It just keeps rolling because the characters allow them to.

Speaking of which, Rick is the best character on TV, cartoon or otherwise.

EDIT: There's some references to past episodes so you may want to start from the beginning, but honestly, just jump in where ever. Every episode has been close or near perfection so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2014, 02:44:12 PM
Rick and Morty....

Holy **** is this show funny.

I've been meaning to check this out based on some praise I've seen regarding it. The look of the show was a bit of a surprise though. I though it would have looked a little different.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 25, 2014, 04:58:47 PM
Yeah...I can see that. It grows on you. I'm amazed sometimes by how ridiculous the animation is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2014, 10:24:28 PM
Psych - Series Finale ;_;

It was a good episode. with a few surprise celebrity guest appearances
another friend of a Cosby kid & Val Kilmer
a connection was made that was unexpected by me
since they moved to SF, Monk was still in operation, and working the case
and it was actually quite touching near the end.

Hopefully they do follow up with that unexpected connection. A Xmas or Halloween Special or something.

Do Not Click this pic until after you have watched the Series Finale of Psych.
http://i.imgur.com/RXYNLaH.jpg

do not travel back in time with this video until after you have seen the Series Finale of Psych... and clicked the pic above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=4nXIRXlT_20
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 27, 2014, 12:58:08 AM
I've tried watching True Detective ep1 about 3 times now....

either I have ADD and don't get what the **** they are talking about*, or this show is extremely boring with their monotone talk throughout the episode that causes me to constantly let my mind wander while I stare at the screen.

I keep hearing how awesome this show is, but I can't get into it.
and I even tried to watch episode 2, but the monotone was so monotone, that I eventually forgot I was watching it when I got up to do something real quick and didn't come back for 15 minutes... forgot to pause.

Can someone please just give me the Episode 1 summary of what's going on in this show (who they are, what/who they are investigating) so that I know I haven't missed something. If you must spoil part of ep2 to do that effectively, then do so. Nothing to lose at this point if I never get into the show.




*I kinda understand what's going on, but it's all guess work. I feel lost and therefore losing interest in continuing. help. It doesn't help that I've only tried to watch it later in the night, not exactly late night, but for some reason the monotone nature of the show makes my mind wander... or attention to focus on something else.


ps. Why does Woody look younger in the present interview than he does in the flashback investigation?

Were you still interested in knowing about this or seeing it? Also, do you watch Mad Men or like it because I would compare this series closer to that type of show and drama?

The point of True Detective isn't really about the case. It is more a study of these men and their journey through life which in the show revolves around this case. If you like classic film noir, (and who doesn't? That black and white bleak stuff is awesome!), then that is the vibe of True Detective. Like Film Noir, the focus isn't to much about the case. Often times, the case is so convoluted and twisting it is hard to keep track off. The most famous example is The Big Sleep with Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Becall and a question about a character called Taylor who was killed.

Quote from: Roger Ebert
"One day Bogie came on the set and said to Howard, 'Who pushed Taylor off the pier?' Everything stopped." As A.M. Sperber and Eric Lax write in "Bogart," "Hawks sent Chandler, (the author of the book), a telegram asking whether the Sternwood's chauffeur, Owen Taylor, was murdered or a suicide. 'Dammit I didn't know either,' " Chandler recalled.

Film noir is about an attitude and mood. The main characters do a lot of brooding and commenting about the cruel world they live in and the hardboiled people they encounter in it. True Detective is that style. If you aren't invested in the two leads and their life journey's than I don't think you'll ever find the show appealing to you. If you're looking for a complex twisting mystery with surprises, this isn't what the show is focusing on and it lays out the mystery and steps along the way to solving it pretty plainly.

I realized that pretty soon while watching the first episode. I've watched them all over the past few days. Then I read a bunch of reviews on them. It's interesting to note there were all kinds of theories going around and people were expecting some kind of twist or surprise to the mystery and were disappointed there wasn't one. So, if you do get into or decide to watch it, be prepared on that front. Or you can just read the quick episode summaries on Wikipedia, look up best of Rust Cohle quotes and call it a day.

@azeke: Lots of things kind of left unanswered: why'd he leave Dora Lang's body for people to find it? Why all the references to The Yellow King with no payoff? Why did the Tuttle connection just kind of get dropped? Who killed Reverend Tuttle? What about the "new" case that Cohle & Hart were being interviewed about? That never went ANYWHERE. And the connection to Errol Childress was so poorly conceived: maybe his ears had paint on them? Really? That's the best you can do? What painter gets paint on their ears? And nobody figured that out in 1995?

Just to address some things to your questions. Dora Lange's body wasn't the first to be left out in the open. Rust was able to start figuring out there was a serial killer by looking at other dead bodies found to start seeing a pattern. But Dora Lange's body was found by a sugarcane field that was being burned down and I always thought was that the intention was for the fire in the field to have spread and consumed the body but it didn't happen and that's why it was found like that. Plus, there is the fact that there was a great cover-up going on with people in the police force involved with the cult so there could have been other instances of bodies found that were covered up. There was the Christian Task Force which was implied to be set-up to take such cases and handle them presumably so that they could be further covered up.

I thought the Yellow King was the serial killer but in the end, I wasn't really following that part of the investigation that closely. I guess the Yellow King is the leader of the cult whoever that is which to me is implied to be the governor Tuttle or whoever the head of the Tuttle clan is. The Yellow King is who the cult follows as evidenced by Dora Lange's diary and is powerful enough that he can keep anyone from squealing on the group and keep it undercover. The Yellow King is mainly used as a way for the detectives to follow the trail leading to Childress. They don't mention it to others so when it is brought up, then they know they are on the right trail. Like Cohle said in the end, The Yellow King wasn't their man. They got their man which was Childress. Therefore, despite the Yellow King probably being behind some awful things, he wasn't the killer of Dora Lange. I also think the Yellow King part is left open as sort of a way of keeping fear open to the viewer. Sort of like how Hannibal Lector escapes and disappears at the end of The Silence of the Lambs. That chilling killer is on the loose still. Evil still roams.

The Tuttle connection didn't get dropped. It got covered up. The old maid woman who starts talking about Carcosa when Rust shows her the stick figures was a servant in the Tuttle house and I thought she brought up that Childress was a child of Sam Tuttle but with another woman than his wife. At the end, when the media is covering the story, you hear a reporter say that the allegations that Childress is a Tuttle relative are being denied (or were proven false) I can't remember the exact wording. Still, the point is, the powerful Tuttle family is already covering up their involvement and link to Childress and Marty and Rust know this but can't prove anything further and aren't going to prove it further. It's not their case anymore. It will be left to the other detectives really to move forward on it if they can since they now know the details from their interviews with Rust and Cohle and they are the ones handling the rest of the investigation from that point on.

Rust speculated that the cult killed the Reverend Tuttle for losing the pictures and videotape Rust found in his safe. Billy Tuttle obviously told someone in the cult about the theft and they killed him to cut that link in case he was blackmailed or was exposed. That's what Rust theorized and told Marty in the storage shed.

As for the other case, the two other detectives found another victim like Dora Lange and they had evidence of Rust being around the area. Thus, he was their prime suspect and they interviewed him and then Marty to find out more of how the earlier investigations were handled because they suspected Rust was behind the whole thing and covering his tracks and blaming other people to get away with it. They basically tell Marty their suspicions and evidence as to why they are interested in Cohle concerning this new victim but Marty rejects their hypothesis. From that point, they keep their eyes on Marty and Rust as shown when Marty meets the one younger detective before heading out to see Childress. He questions what Rust and Marty are doing at his private security firm all the time and wants to know what sort of leads they are pursuing about the case. They just don't have enough evidence to go after Rust yet or get a search warrant. We see them later trying to follow up on some of the details that Rust and Marty gave about their '95 investigation when they run into Childress to verify the facts. That's what their investigation was about.

I'll agree. The green paint connection was a weird way to crack the case. They were going a better route with the sheriff Childress who covered up the Marie Fontenot's case. Surely a connection could have been made that way. We even see the killer painting a school and yet he isn't sloppy enough there to have paint over his ears, (at least that I noticed) nor was it like he was wearing a mask that left his ears exposed while he was painting. But then, he didn't exactly look like he had spaghetti for a face either. I just thought that was supposed to be a mask like the other members of the cult wore. In the end, I just accepted it because the show wasn't about looking for clues. We were only going to learn about things as the detectives learned about them. This wasn't a show where you are given suspects and evidence have a chance to figure out the ending like say a Mentalist Episode. Rather, you are just coming along for the journey.

What bothered me even more was the cliché of the cellphone having no signal when getting into the killers house and then both detectives individually going into killer's maze system. I get you don't want the guy to get away after all this time but you are clearly entering into a place which you have no idea what the layout is, what's in it or have any back-up if he gets the drop on you. Not to mention, he is taunting and leading Rust on the whole time. Clearly, he isn't worried and has a plan to kill you. I would wait until a whole search force arrived and then go in after him. I'm just saying dumb, dumb, dumb in my head the whole time. Yet, I was also tense and nervous about it all so it accomplished what it was supposed to do.


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 27, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
I just got caught up on Season 3 of Last Man Standing. I loved the first season, but two and three are already winding down. At first I liked it because it felt like a remake of Home Improvement, then the more I watched it the more I realized it was just a remake of Home Improvement... currently 7/10 it could get better I like the characters, I like most of the cast and I do like the premise because I loved Home Improvement but it's starting to re-tread ground they already covered which is too soon for a show barely into it's third season.

Mostly I am traditionally more into comedies, especially 3 camera laugh track old school style sitcoms, but I like to get into other stuff. I just got Hulu Plus and I have been backed up on my Netflix log for a long while now but that will change this summer once I get caught up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on March 28, 2014, 11:08:33 PM

@azeke: Lots of things kind of left unanswered: why'd he leave Dora Lang's body for people to find it? Why all the references to The Yellow King with no payoff? Why did the Tuttle connection just kind of get dropped? Who killed Reverend Tuttle? What about the "new" case that Cohle & Hart were being interviewed about? That never went ANYWHERE. And the connection to Errol Childress was so poorly conceived: maybe his ears had paint on them? Really? That's the best you can do? What painter gets paint on their ears? And nobody figured that out in 1995?

Just to address some things to your questions. Dora Lange's body wasn't the first to be left out in the open. Rust was able to start figuring out there was a serial killer by looking at other dead bodies found to start seeing a pattern. But Dora Lange's body was found by a sugarcane field that was being burned down and I always thought was that the intention was for the fire in the field to have spread and consumed the body but it didn't happen and that's why it was found like that. Plus, there is the fact that there was a great cover-up going on with people in the police force involved with the cult so there could have been other instances of bodies found that were covered up. There was the Christian Task Force which was implied to be set-up to take such cases and handle them presumably so that they could be further covered up.

I thought the Yellow King was the serial killer but in the end, I wasn't really following that part of the investigation that closely. I guess the Yellow King is the leader of the cult whoever that is which to me is implied to be the governor Tuttle or whoever the head of the Tuttle clan is. The Yellow King is who the cult follows as evidenced by Dora Lange's diary and is powerful enough that he can keep anyone from squealing on the group and keep it undercover. The Yellow King is mainly used as a way for the detectives to follow the trail leading to Childress. They don't mention it to others so when it is brought up, then they know they are on the right trail. Like Cohle said in the end, The Yellow King wasn't their man. They got their man which was Childress. Therefore, despite the Yellow King probably being behind some awful things, he wasn't the killer of Dora Lange. I also think the Yellow King part is left open as sort of a way of keeping fear open to the viewer. Sort of like how Hannibal Lector escapes and disappears at the end of The Silence of the Lambs. That chilling killer is on the loose still. Evil still roams.

The Tuttle connection didn't get dropped. It got covered up. The old maid woman who starts talking about Carcosa when Rust shows her the stick figures was a servant in the Tuttle house and I thought she brought up that Childress was a child of Sam Tuttle but with another woman than his wife. At the end, when the media is covering the story, you hear a reporter say that the allegations that Childress is a Tuttle relative are being denied (or were proven false) I can't remember the exact wording. Still, the point is, the powerful Tuttle family is already covering up their involvement and link to Childress and Marty and Rust know this but can't prove anything further and aren't going to prove it further. It's not their case anymore. It will be left to the other detectives really to move forward on it if they can since they now know the details from their interviews with Rust and Cohle and they are the ones handling the rest of the investigation from that point on.

Rust speculated that the cult killed the Reverend Tuttle for losing the pictures and videotape Rust found in his safe. Billy Tuttle obviously told someone in the cult about the theft and they killed him to cut that link in case he was blackmailed or was exposed. That's what Rust theorized and told Marty in the storage shed.

As for the other case, the two other detectives found another victim like Dora Lange and they had evidence of Rust being around the area. Thus, he was their prime suspect and they interviewed him and then Marty to find out more of how the earlier investigations were handled because they suspected Rust was behind the whole thing and covering his tracks and blaming other people to get away with it. They basically tell Marty their suspicions and evidence as to why they are interested in Cohle concerning this new victim but Marty rejects their hypothesis. From that point, they keep their eyes on Marty and Rust as shown when Marty meets the one younger detective before heading out to see Childress. He questions what Rust and Marty are doing at his private security firm all the time and wants to know what sort of leads they are pursuing about the case. They just don't have enough evidence to go after Rust yet or get a search warrant. We see them later trying to follow up on some of the details that Rust and Marty gave about their '95 investigation when they run into Childress to verify the facts. That's what their investigation was about.

I'll agree. The green paint connection was a weird way to crack the case. They were going a better route with the sheriff Childress who covered up the Marie Fontenot's case. Surely a connection could have been made that way. We even see the killer painting a school and yet he isn't sloppy enough there to have paint over his ears, (at least that I noticed) nor was it like he was wearing a mask that left his ears exposed while he was painting. But then, he didn't exactly look like he had spaghetti for a face either. I just thought that was supposed to be a mask like the other members of the cult wore. In the end, I just accepted it because the show wasn't about looking for clues. We were only going to learn about things as the detectives learned about them. This wasn't a show where you are given suspects and evidence have a chance to figure out the ending like say a Mentalist Episode. Rather, you are just coming along for the journey.

What bothered me even more was the cliché of the cellphone having no signal when getting into the killers house and then both detectives individually going into killer's maze system. I get you don't want the guy to get away after all this time but you are clearly entering into a place which you have no idea what the layout is, what's in it or have any back-up if he gets the drop on you. Not to mention, he is taunting and leading Rust on the whole time. Clearly, he isn't worried and has a plan to kill you. I would wait until a whole search force arrived and then go in after him. I'm just saying dumb, dumb, dumb in my head the whole time. Yet, I was also tense and nervous about it all so it accomplished what it was supposed to do.



True, I've watched the episode again since. I still think the paint connection is weak, but if that's the weakest part of the whole season, I can live with it. Just an incredibly strong show all around. But yeah, you're right. They probably should've waited for backup. I mean, Christ, Cohle. Don't be an idiot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 03, 2014, 10:08:45 AM
Agents of SHIELD put out probably their best and an honestly good episode last night.
promotional photos of Deathlok looked quite cheap and poor, but in context and action, it really didn't look that bad. Special Effects for a specific Deathlok scene were obviously budget-capped but the overall episode was good. There were things at stake and the events lead up to something that happens in parallel to the events in Captain America 2 (which I hear changes everything in the MCU and most definitely will flip the show AoS on it's head).

So if you were planning on watching Agents of SHIELD and already have your tickets purchased for CA2, I suggest you start with maybe episode 11 or 12 and work up to the current episode of 16 to get you caught up on the UPRISING Arc that this whole show was created for*.

*My running theory is that Agents of SHIELD was created to specifically tie into the events of Captain America 2 with their UPRISING Arc in the story. The first 10  or so episodes were to set up the characters and events specifically for this section of the season and the ultimate tie-in. (If you think about it, this explains pretty much everything that people were complaining about early on, as the show has taken a much more serialized approach in the episodes starting around 11 or 12 and seen much improvement since doing so)

--------------

Arrow puts out another quality episode where Deathstroke is a fucking BOSS (for simp reasons...)
Ollie gets bullied out in the yard and then punked for his lunch money infront of the principal who laughs and goes back to work. Things are fucked up in Central City.
Suspension of disbelief is still a requirement for enjoyment, but the one thing they have needed to address and can no longer be overlooked is that Officer Lance still doesn't know the identity of The Arrow. I hear it happens maybe in the next episode in some way or another, and considering what happened in this episode, I find it hard to not believe it will happen.


Lets just say that this is yet another episode of Arrow that could have served as a Season Finale. But there are still like 5 more episodes... which should run straight after next weeks break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 03, 2014, 10:23:46 AM
Yeah, Arrow last night was very good. It reminded me of the start of season 2 when there was just so much stuff happening at once. It really illustrates how the show had slowed down a bit over the last 6 or so episodes. Last night, they finally picked up on pretty much every thread and got this train rolling again. 4 episodes left and with everything that is going on, I'm hoping they stay as fast-paced and jampacked as this episode. It's always great whenever you finally see the villain's masterplan take shape and there are still a few more hidden details to go. I'm wondering how its going to end especially looking at the episode titles for these last 4.

This episode did what it needed to do. Rounded all the players up, started the endgame rolling, and got the viewer hyped up to follow it through. The only thing I'm not sure about is the ending with the abrupt reveal of Ollie's secret identity to one character. I get the dilemma that is obvioulsy being set-up for the end but I'm disappointed with this being the way it happens a bit and it just seems like we are getting to a point where almost everyone knows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 03, 2014, 11:24:13 AM
Re: Arrow
Laurel knowing the secret will play into her telling her dad. So atleast that little game of "I'm a detective that can't detect the obvious" will finally be over.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 03, 2014, 12:36:38 PM
Maybe.

The dilemma I mention getting set-up is the fact that Lance is now being arrested on conspiracy charges but if he reveals the name of the Arrow, they'll get dropped in a deal. Sara obvioulsy isn't going to tell but with Laurel knowing, she will now face the dilemma of whether to tell her father or keep the secret. So, Lance being in the dark may continue.

Frankly, if I were to speculate. I'd say that the Green Arrow stops Blood's plan/army in such a way that the police are finally willing to accept his or at least tolerate his prescence. With Quinten being the only officer with ties and a connection to the Arrow, he'd get reinstated back to detective and act as the liason. There's already the fact that Quinten was right to arrest Slade Wilson for the kidnapping which the news then called his release a blunder for the police department. With last week's Huntress police trap going south and the cop working for Blood earlier in the year, I could see a shake-up in the police deptartment happening where Lance comes out on top without having to know Ollie's true identity.

The speculation is that Sara dies at the end of the season. If that happens and Laurel knows Ollie's identity, it could just be a step towards her being the future Black Canary. As well, Ollie did just save Laurel's life awhile ago when he killed the fake Brother Blood. I don't think she is at a point where she would be ready to just betray him and give up his secret identity right away to her father. But I guess we will see how it all shakes out.

I just wish they would stop referring to Shado's death as Ollie's choice. That has been bugging me for weeks now. Ollie's choice was for him to die before either Sara or Shado. Just because Ivo pointed the gun at Sara and Ollie ran in front of her wasn't a choice to kill Shado. If Ivo had pointed at Shado, you really think Ollie was just going to sit and watch? He most likely would have done the same thing and got in front of the gun pointed at Shado. It just bugs me how everyone acts and treats it like Ollie sat back and gave Shado's name as the one to die.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 03, 2014, 01:50:56 PM
Arrow was awesome last night

Roy tells the truth about Ollie being stupid and leaves (for Flash's town?) Like a boss
Slade takes Ollie's company away from him. Scratch that, Ollie gives his company away. Like a boss
Slade turns Thea against Ollie. Like a boss
Slade having an evil Shado in his head works. I'm guessing he will exorcise his demons and go semi-legit like Deadshot at some point. Like a boss
Slade swags into Laurel's apartment, drops a truth bomb and leaves. Will Laurel betray the Arrow to save her dad? My guess is she will try to tell him and he will say he doesn't want to know the Arrow's identity (he knows, but doesn't want to confirm) Like a boss
Time for Slade to pick off Felicity, Diggle and Canary. Ollie is outmatched and Moria needs to get ahold of Merlyn to save Ollie and the city. Like a boss.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 03, 2014, 05:42:16 PM
Who's ready for an Arrow Spoiler!?

Just click the link...
well, wait, don't you want to know what the spoiler is about?

Well, we know that Slade is not working alone, this spoiler is showing who one of those people are...
http://i.imgur.com/M3TYr47.jpg  <--Isabel Roschev (Summer Glau) is Ravager
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 08, 2014, 06:18:47 AM
Rick and Morty

Easily the best episode this season and by far the most creative thing I've witnessed in years.

What makes it even more special was that the voice work was pretty much done by one guy.

how about that twist though?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on April 08, 2014, 06:53:44 AM
Rick and Morty

Easily the best episode this season and by far the most creative thing I've witnessed in years.
Yeah it was really, really good.

Amazing consistency with quality in this show. With Futurama you had to wait maybe a season to get an episode as strong, Rick and Morty shits them out week after week.

The great thing about it is how packed to the gills it, in every frame there are jokes hidden within, in every episode there are sometimes four or so storylines at the same time, BAM! BAM! it never stops you blowing your mind. So much stuff crammed in.

Being a huge SF fan, i really love to recognize all these plots from books i read way back: cloning episodes, planet of the apes, evil clones from parallel dimension.

This one episode was kinda like Seventh Voyage of Ijon Tichy (http://english.lem.pl/home/bookshelf/the-seventh-voyage), of course with a bit more asses but just as funny and smart.

Such a good show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2014, 12:00:08 PM
Agents of SHIELD (tonites episode ep17: Turn, Turn, Turn - up on HULU now)

Hot Damn this show has hit it's stride. this current episode takes place during Cap2

lines are drawn in the sand and some surprises (and some not so surprises) are had.
Another good episode.

If you have yet to catch up on this show, and/or dropped off early, just pick up at Ep 11, and allow the internet to summarize the first 10 episodes for you. The serialized 2nd half is so much better than the procedural 1st half, but this episode just explained why everything was the way it was, why and how the team was assembled, and I can make assumptions on the reason why it's centered around Coulson, but that is related to Cap2 Fury wanted to know that the blue alien goo is safe, and since there have been no side effects, and it saved Skye's life, that is the stuff that Fury used on himself to heal his many life threatening injuries after the attempt on his life. He also needed someone he could trust to take a mobile SHIELD center off the grid and conduct covert missions outside of SHIELD's ever watchful eye.
The last 2 episodes are by far the best the show has had to offer, and judging by what's going on, I'm sure it's likely to continue on through the s1 finale.

For a while now I've suspected that the whole show was created for this Captain America 2 related UPRISING Arc, and based on the episodes within it, I believe that was confirmed. It's a shame that the earlier episodes weren't as engaging/interesting as the later ones, but they were really killing time to "build characters" until the tie-in could come up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 08, 2014, 04:58:36 PM
Rick and Morty

Easily the best episode this season and by far the most creative thing I've witnessed in years.
Yeah it was really, really good.

Amazing consistency with quality in this show. With Futurama you had to wait maybe a season to get an episode as strong, Rick and Morty shits them out week after week.

The great thing about it is how packed to the gills it, in every frame there are jokes hidden within, in every episode there are sometimes four or so storylines at the same time, BAM! BAM! it never stops you blowing your mind. So much stuff crammed in.

Being a huge SF fan, i really love to recognize all these plots from books i read way back: cloning episodes, planet of the apes, evil clones from parallel dimension.

This one episode was kinda like Seventh Voyage of Ijon Tichy (http://english.lem.pl/home/bookshelf/the-seventh-voyage), of course with a bit more asses but just as funny and smart.

Such a good show.

I just read the book/link. Superb. You got anymore?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on April 08, 2014, 05:15:50 PM
Watched some episodes of Borgen (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1526318/). It's good. It is a bit like House of Cards (British or American) in that it involves national politicians and reporters and such, but the similarities pretty much end there. Really good show. I was able to get it on DVD subtitled from the library.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on April 08, 2014, 10:07:01 PM
I just read the book/link. Superb. You got anymore?
It's not a book, just a short story in a collection (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_Diaries). Probably one of the best ones. Coincidentally i remember discussing this particular story with my colleague last month, you couldn't have said from her looks that she's sci-fi nerd type, but she definitely remembered it.

But generally everything written by Lem is of unrivaled quality. My favourite (sci-fi) writer.

I highly recommend his other short story collections: Cyberiad and Fables for Robots: they're short and snappy but contain mindblowing ideas that other writers are still inferiorly reinventing 50 years later. Oh, and they're also extremely funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 10, 2014, 02:41:17 PM
Watch the Series Finale of HIMYM.

Yeah... Seriously...

After all that Time Investment of the last 2 seasons this is how they end it?  There were parts that were good touch backs but they should have been the second half of this season.  And then how the Mom ended up in the end.  Also the Ultimate conclusion.  It's not what it should have been.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 11, 2014, 09:27:43 AM
Finally got to see the last episode of AoS which I will now go into Spoilers mode because of its Connections.

Ward actually wasn't a surprise with the early reveal.  In fact one of the Science Twins would have been a much bigger twist.  I'm disappointed with the death of Ice, the head women of the Hub, because if memory serves show would be needed for H.A.M.M.E.R and Dark Avengers.  Interesting that they didn't at the very least sneak a cameo on a screen or something for AoS in Winter Soldier.  They new the show was coming when WS was taping. 
This is probably going to change the tone of the show more and I don't know if that is going to be a good thing or not.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 15, 2014, 07:19:45 PM
Rick and Morty

What up my glib glops/10.

Edit: Season one is done. I'll do a review later. But this is easily the strongest first season for a show since Archer and Futurama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on April 15, 2014, 09:13:30 PM
I too just finished How I Met Your Mother, the finale was awful it kind of ruins the whole damn show. Plus I was always rooting for him to end up with Victoria so for me the show ended with them riding into the sunset, I wish it ended there or I stopped watching, I always hated Robin.



I also caught the Psych finale and in complete contrast that was a perfect ending for that show.

Right now I have been re-watching 3rd Rock from the Sun on Hulu Plus, I always liked the show when it was new but my parents hated it so I only ever watched a few off and on. I am only half way through season one and so far it's better than I remembered it being.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2014, 06:09:04 PM
I watched the first 7 episodes of Rick & Morty

Recommended for anyone that likes to laugh and double bonus to those that can catch movie references as almost everything seems to be a reference to some popular movie from the 80's 90's to present.
This **** is pretty damn consistently hilarious though, and no cartoon has really made me laugh since early Family Guy & South Park episodes from atleast 5+ years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 21, 2014, 09:14:06 PM
Alright Someone please say that the pilot episode of Rick and Morty is pure garbage?

The best part was the Jessica fantasy scene.

Hopefully it get vastly better.  I didn't find any of it funny...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2014, 10:33:37 PM
I found later episodes to be much funnier than the 1st.

supposedly the show creator wrote the 1st episode, but different writers take over after that. So that may explain why the 1st wasn't as funny as the rest (so far).

But if you are truly not liking the 1st episode, it just may not be the type of humor for you.
I would try ep2 & ep3 before quitting though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on April 22, 2014, 12:54:36 AM
Alright Someone please say that the pilot episode of Rick and Morty is pure garbage?
Yes, it's very, very weak.

Though it did had some neat moments:
(http://i.minus.com/is5KHLsip2Sm.gif)

R&M's second episode will already improve on it tenfold. And then it will only get better. There are a few some duds (first episode, final episode, devil episode), but otherwise it's an incredibly solid show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 22, 2014, 09:30:11 AM
The Devil Episode is a the second one.  I found that one ok.  Tried the 3rd one but at that point I got half way through and they showed that stupid coke commercial again and I was out.  I'll probably go back to it because concept wise I could see how that could be funny.

My biggest problem with the series so far is that there would have been a few parts that could be funny and then Rick:

1) Burps
2) Vomits
3) Dribble Vomit

and it kills the whole thing.  Its like your mother-in-law showing up and when you finally get a mood going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 22, 2014, 09:46:48 AM
Orphan Black - It's incredible that Tatiana Maslany wasn't nominated for an emmy, or something, and she's not even earning up the hype that Bryan Cranston did for Breaking Bad.

She's playing four separate, entirely distinct characters on screen in this (regularly two at once) and acting off everyone else - and everyone else - at the same time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 22, 2014, 08:40:35 PM
The Devil Episode is a the second one.  I found that one ok.  Tried the 3rd one but at that point I got half way through and they showed that stupid coke commercial again and I was out.  I'll probably go back to it because concept wise I could see how that could be funny.

My biggest problem with the series so far is that there would have been a few parts that could be funny and then Rick:

1) Burps
2) Vomits
3) Dribble Vomit

and it kills the whole thing.  Its like your mother-in-law showing up and when you finally get a mood going.

The second episode is actually the dogs one. The devil one is the ninth. And the end of that episode (after the credits) is hilarious.

Rick burping or drooling bothered me for the first episode but now I actually like it. That includes all the stammering as well. It's like the exact opposite of Archer.

But keep watching it as everything builds to what I think was the best episode I've seen on any cartoon due to its tight narrative and that's episode 10 Close Rickcounters of a Rick Kind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2014, 11:54:56 PM
The Following.... not sure why I continue to watch this show. It just gets more and more ridiculous. There are so many comically large plot holes, "dues ex machinima" and anything else you can think of for "This doesn't make any sense", "How did he get there and/or know to go there & "why would they do that!?".
I guess you just have to take it for what it is.


The Tomorrow People
- I almost gave up on this show many weeks ago, but it's fairly interesting. I only post about it now because hot dayum at the ending to that last episode. I didn't see that coming. I was wondering why she would want a call made at a specific time, but it didn't dawn on me until she opened the jacket right before the phone rang. SHOCKING!!!


Naked and Afraid
- On the Latest episode they show that the girl gets sick and needs to be rushed to the hospital. This chick was so annoying, I couldn't wait till she got sick and hoped it ruined her whole month. She sat at the camp doing jack **** all day while the guy went out and tried to find food. Her philosophy was "that a woman stays home and does dishes and a man takes out the trash".... bitch we aint got no plates and I don't see no garbage... she follows up this I'll stay at camp keeping the fire going attitude while you unsuccesfully attempt to hunt for food attitude by then stating something like "I don't know about this guy, but if I was out here with my husband he would have wrestled something out of the brush by now" as if she could do any better. They guy ended up tapping out due to exhaustion, dehydration and starvation.... she lasted another 5 days on her own since she sat around doing nothing for the first 16 days. I was so irritated by her. she didn't finish, but she made it to pretty much the last day. she didn't deserve it at all. And the poor guy had like 3 different tropical diseases, including malaria, so it's no wonder he didn't make it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on April 23, 2014, 11:52:49 AM
The Devil Episode is a the second one.  I found that one ok.  Tried the 3rd one but at that point I got half way through and they showed that stupid coke commercial again and I was out.  I'll probably go back to it because concept wise I could see how that could be funny.

My biggest problem with the series so far is that there would have been a few parts that could be funny and then Rick:

1) Burps
2) Vomits
3) Dribble Vomit

and it kills the whole thing.  Its like your mother-in-law showing up and when you finally get a mood going.

The second episode is actually the dogs one. The devil one is the ninth. And the end of that episode (after the credits) is hilarious.

Rick burping or drooling bothered me for the first episode but now I actually like it. That includes all the stammering as well. It's like the exact opposite of Archer.

But keep watching it as everything builds to what I think was the best episode I've seen on any cartoon due to its tight narrative and that's episode 10 Close Rickcounters of a Rick Kind.
The stammering I'm ok with but, I think they could have put something better for the burps and like.  Sighs be an option.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 23, 2014, 12:02:46 PM
But he's **** faced drunk all the time. The burping, the stammering and the drooling are all part of what makes his speech pattern funny to me. That and the fact that he always has to call out Marty's name.

I'm gonna try and watch the few episodes tonite. Ep8-finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2014, 01:15:31 PM
Arrow
OMG, was that a season finale episode... Yes. Yes it was, but at the same time, there are still 2-3 more episodes to go this season. WTF Arrow. Why do you make the DC movie efforts seem so lame in comparison?

If The Flash can keep up with Arrow in the pacing and intense comic action department, I'm just gonna hope they spin off like 4 more shows, start a DC Network, and go for the TVCinematic Universe that culminates into a Made for TV mini-series movie for Justice Squad or whatever they need to call it to differentiate it from the movies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 24, 2014, 02:29:02 PM
Arrow was indeed epic. They jam sooo much into each episode.

Roy is a full blown insane cop killer. Oliver has a 6-7 year old child out there somewhere. Sarah has left. Moira has known that Oliver is the Arrow for the last year. Moira was killed by Slade!! Next week it looks like Blood and Deathstroke unleash the Mirakuru army and Ollie still has a knee fracture. Only characters still standing are Diggle and Felicity and Ollie maybe with some crutches. Time for the return of Merlyn!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 24, 2014, 02:29:30 PM
Arrow talk!

Yes, that ending was a total surprise! When their limo was hit, I thought that was going to be the end of the episode with the fade to black but then it kept going and kept going all through that final choice and sacrifice. Totally unexpected. And yet, to me, part of the tragedy is lessened somewhat by thinking about how the Mirakuru could be used to save her. It worked with Slade and Rochov already. I understand Oliver not wanting to subject someone to it with the problems it has caused however with a cure being worked on, you'd think he might take a risk of doing it and then hopefully curing her. I never saw Slade's re-enctment of the choice coming but it was such a poetic way to get revenge. And he isn't done yet?!

Part of me was disappointed with the revelation Moira knew Ollie was the Arrow. I'd have expected more fallout or something more on her part indicating she knew who Ollie was then to suddenly bring it up and not make much of a deal out of it. That left just Thea and Quinten (who doesn't want to know) as the only main cast unaware of the secret identity. Ugh. Won't it be fun when Thea finds out? You lieeeeddddd tooo mmeeee. Still, when Moira later helped cover for Ollie's sudden disappearance, it was nice and I thought might make for an interesting dynamic. But not to be?

Ollie's in an interesting place heading to the season finale. Broken leg, dead mother, Roy's out of control, Sara's left, Rochov is alive and he doesn't know it and what she still has yet to do is undetermined. I'm surprised Diggle isn't more injured from the hit to the head from Roy. Or maybe he is. Can't say I such much of Diggle after that. Malcolm Merlyn is still in play and with Moira dead, will he come to collect Thea now? If Merlyn tells her that Ollie is also the Arrow and has been hiding that also, she may decide to throw in her lot with Merlyn after all. Blood will now win the election and with it, he has his army of mirakuru soldiers. What is the endgame there? Sara going off to see an old friend. I wonder if that means bring Lyssa Al Ghul back along with some League of Assassin members to fight the mirakuru army? That would be interesting. 3 episodes left.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 24, 2014, 03:58:13 PM
Officer Lance knows. He just never wants to confirm. He purposely ignores the everything revealing the identity. He kinda looks away when Arrow accidentally steps into the light.
He knows his daughter is Canary and dates Oliver, he knows Felicity is his contact for the Arrow and that she works for Oliver as a personal assistant/secretary and I'm pretty sure he knows Diggle was helping on stakeouts and that is Ollie's personal security/Black Driver.
He would have to be a full blown idiot to not know, but he chooses to not deal with the obvious and air on the side of caution with plausible deniability for his and The Arrows safety.

at least that is what I took away from his speech to Laurel.




Speculation going forward (possibly a little influenced by next weeks promo)





- Sarah runs off to see Nyssa Al Ghul, comes back to Starling with an Assassin Squad to help Oliver, but ultimately has to sacrifice herself to make the deal or save the day.
- Blood becomes front runner for Mayor of Starling, but gets exposed at the last second and Oliver takes Maoira's place on the Ballot. Wins on the sympathy vote (Mother Died, Blood was in cahoots with Slade - who kidnapped Thea and killed Moira, Queen was the name on the Ballot and that has not changed)
- Suicide Squad or League of Assassins confront Roy, he loses his arm. becomes Arsenal next season.
- Oliver cures Slade of the Miraku Rage - cure doesn't take away all physical enhancements of Mirakuru (kinda dilutes it), just heals the mind. Slade is arrested, locked away and then becomes the newest member of the Suicide Squad.
- Oliver also cures the CEO chick that he thought was dead (she appears briefly in the promo) and ultimately outs her from CEO of his company (or maybe Sarah kills her...)
- Merlyn helps Ollie take down Slade in a 2 vs 1 fight, the same fight where Slade gets cured just before killing one of the two.
- Thea finds out that daddy is alive and that Ollie is The Arrow. Laurel finds out Sarah was Canary.



or maybe


Ollie takes some Mirakuru, it heals his knee, he fights Slade. Roy eventually turns on Slade, who then proceeds to cut off his arm. That action enrages Ollie who then gets the upper hand, where he then struggles against his ghost mom telling him to kill slade, where he eventually overcomes and cures Slade, himself and ROy of the Mirakuru. Roy is missing an arm from the fight, eventually becomes Arsenal, Slade gets recruited to the Suicide Squad along with The Huntress.


Bring on the Suicide Squad backdoor pilot in Season 3.
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on April 25, 2014, 12:14:04 PM
Barry Allen gonna come in to save the day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 25, 2014, 10:28:19 PM
Parks and Recreation

Whoa! Going into the episode, I didn't expect a major shake-up and didn't even think the subplot of Leslie debate on whether to take the Federal job would even get resolved. In fact, I don't what I expected as I kind of kept forgetting about the Unity concert also. I guess just a low-key business as usual expectation especially with P&R having been announced for renewal so there didn't seem to be much reason to wrap up some of the recent conflicts and story ideas.

However, as the episode went on, I began to question whether or not there was going to be a major shake-up on the show for next season. With the Federal job, it suddenly seemed to indicate that things would suddenly be more far-reaching with Leslie's job being on a national level instead of local level. This would mean new characters and workmates. With her meeting her heroes like the bad boy of the interior, it struck me as though we might be seeing the introduction of a new cast for the next season. Then after Leslie took the job and all indications were that she would be moving, her trying to bring all the staff with her to her new job and them all refusing (except Larry) seemed to make me further wonder just where the show was going. Add in the fact that it seemed all the supporting cast were all getting a triumphant moment or two, it seemed as though it was setting up the goodbyes and final moments for a lot of the characters.

Yet, in the end, the show had a way to make it work that was a fairly obvious solution and so it seemed to be ready to go on as normal but with the team now having a much larger mandate to look after the national parks instead of local Pawnee parks only which could hopefully open up some new territory to mine for comedy gold. But then, the show went there and did offer up the chance for big changes next season with the time jump! I think it leaves the fate of a lot of characters open for change and possibly the chance we may see less of some of them and an introduction of more new characters. Or it could be the same old crew but just "older" and more wiser or slightly changed.

And then, just as I'm getting over the shock of the jump, Boom! Jon Hamm walks on for a quick 30 second cameo that had me wishing he becomes a regular or at least recurring guest star character. I'd love to see Don Draper now portraying someone even more incompetent that Terry (Ha!). He totally could too. Mad Men is wrapping up and filming its final scenes (if it hasn't done so already) so he would be available to join up in filming provided he doesn't now have other film commitments. Jon Hamm can be great for comedy as he proved hosting SNL. Those were some of my favorite episodes and his other appearances on the show have also been gold. It's odd how he pops up on shows for a quick joke like Conan or 30 Rock. Must be the SNL connection.

Man, I love how this episode pulled out all the stops with even most of the third tier characters making a brief cameo like Joan and Perd and the accounting guy that always wants to hire Ben. But best of all, more Jean-Ralphio. I always love his schtick and he delivered again even when sporting 2 ankle bracelets! I've heard this show get compared to other comedies before like The Office but I always think the show most reminds me of Newhart, a comedy from the 80's. Not sure how many have seen it but I think it is worth watching. It's one I like a lot. That show was about a small inn owner, played by Bob Newhart, and the wacky characters he puts up with in a small town. As the show went on, you got to meet more and more of the townsfolk and there would be plenty of recurring guest stars as they played these town folk from time to time. I always liked how the show did that and expanded its cast in that way and allowed for all these people to show up to provide all kinds of different jokes. I think that has been the greatest factor in Parks staying pretty funny after all this time by having these different citizens around to provide jokes that just couldn't be done by the main cast.

Still, this episode re-energized my enthusiasm for the show. I have to admit, this is the first season where I started to wonder if maybe it was all wearing thin. Up to this point, each season had been getting better and better and Season 5 seemed like a slowdown of that momentum but was still very strong and I recommend it a lot. But this season seemed to be a bit more repetitive and a lot of characters just seemed to be spinning their wheels or regressing at times. It still had some great moments and laughs but it just wasn't feeling as amazing as it used to. Hopefully with the changeup at the end of the episode, it will allow for a lot of new possibilities and reignite the crew with new comedy and character ideas and do the impossible by actually still getting funnier as the show continues.


Anyways, that's about all I wanted to mention. It's been awhile since I've just felt the need to rave about Parks so this episode definitely did it's job in entertaining this fan.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Phil on April 26, 2014, 06:52:15 PM
I saw Black Box on ABC on Thursday, and it has to do with a doctor who suffers from bipolar disorder. I only tuned in to see how badly mental illness would be portrayed, and how much worse the stigma behind mental illness would become.

I think it's safe to say that the show showcased the extremes of mental illness too heavily, and there was really no middle ground to speak of. Wasn't very impressed or satisfied.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 01, 2014, 03:10:03 AM
Almost Human has been cancelled. Thanks Obama!

But seriously, the show had promise and a very good idea to develop but was in a difficult slot (wasn't it up against Once upon a Time?), it's on Fox that has traditionally done scifi badly (both pre and post-Fringe) and one of it's creators left half way through.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 01, 2014, 10:09:36 AM
But seriously, the show had promise and a very good idea to develop but was in a difficult slot (wasn't it up against Once upon a Time?), it's on Fox that has traditionally done scifi badly (both pre and post-Fringe) and one of it's creators left half way through.

Cut out the stuff that made no real difference to your statement. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2014, 11:26:59 AM
Ratings weren't that hot, and it was a WB show picked up by Fox.
Maybe FX will pick it up. They probably won't, but it could happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on May 01, 2014, 03:33:37 PM
Awww I enjoyed watching Almost Human.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 01, 2014, 04:29:51 PM
In other news, please say you saw this weeks Person of Interest BNM???

PLEASE?

Root's line of two gods now playing with the same deck of cards and then what they did to Finch really sets the tone of this show. Absolutely heartbreaking what happened on the bridge with Grace - his paranoia is completely and totally justified.

Also, this show is definitely one of the best written american shows in recent years. It's criminal how underrated it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 01, 2014, 05:08:48 PM
It's sitting on my computer waiting to be watched. I just haven't gotten to it yet.

It's next up on my list as I don't think much comes on tonite.
Tuesdays and Wednesdays are kinda busy nights for TV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2014, 01:08:15 PM
Arrow

I've been watching the first season and here's a few things I've noticed.

1. Everyone apologizes to each other a lot. The show is suppose to be dramatic, sure, but this is pretty ridiculous.

2. I don't believe that any of them are actually rich. Sure the Queen's have a mansion and security and a couple nice toys, but wealthy people have pets. It may be easier to shoot scenes without animals, but it bothers me not seeing a dog or cat or horse or something running around.

3. Why is everyone on Laurels booty? It's pathetic.

4. Speaking of chicks, here's my ranking. The waitress, Shiva formerly known as McKenna, Jo the black chick who worked with Laurel at the law office, the Asian chick on the island who tried to pull an Avatar, the white girls starting with Felicity and ending with Thea. I think that's all of them.

5. The dialogue is pretty irrational. The show is entertaining for sure, but there are times when I can't help but think that it makes no sense. This also happens with the story. Something's just happen in order to move it a long and if you pause to think about it, you'll laugh at how ridiculous it is. I'd give you an example if I could remember one, but there's always quite a few instances in each episode.

6. So Arrow kills people. He's not like batman or superman. This dude kills people. So why doesn't he just murder everyone? It would save a lot of time. Plus, there are several incidences where if he would have killed someone, like ten people would still be alive. Seems justified to me.

7. And what's up with them showing Arrow working out all the time? We get it, the dude's buff. The least you could do is offset it with some chicks in panies or something.

8. Which brings me to my last point. I don't think these dudes are rich. I know I already said that, but seriously? No hoe's anywhere? If you're trying to cover up your alter ego, you are failing, Arrow. Where's the convient alibis of being in Monte Carlo for the weekend? You got some things to learn from Batman. You're lucky that everyone in starling city is a dumbass, yet you still have like 5 people who know who you are. For shame.

Anyway, nowhere near as good as POI but still fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2014, 01:58:43 PM
It's get even better, but never in the same way as Person of Interest. It's on a whole different level of entertaining fun.
Season 2 is where the real fun starts though. You have to overlook quite a bit of little things, but they keep it moving so that you have no time to dwell on such things. The entertainment and comic fan fare is all there, and it's still the best and most consistent comic book hero based show I've ever seen.


and speaking of POI
I watched it yesterday. I can only imagine how crazy things are about to get once both sides are on even playing grounds. Team Finch will need to do ALOT of recruiting. I wonder if Elias.... naah, nevermind. that's a crazy thought.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2014, 06:57:39 PM
I think Finch's machine is going to somehow destroy the other simply because the other will try to attack it. Finch's code let's it self upgrade and respond to attacks so maybe it's as boring as that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2014, 07:57:28 PM
Oh and I just wanted to add that Diggle is the best name ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2014, 08:41:16 PM
I'm just gonna continue to ramble about this show.

Arrow was like "I figured it out. This is why I survived the island." And then he bails without telling anyone where he's going only to find him in the next scene neeqing (boning) Laurel. This is fantastic writing.

On a side note, Felicity is my favorite character. She's the only one, other than DIGGLE my NIGGLE, who doesn't change character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2014, 09:00:09 AM
Season 2 is much better so far. It makes fun itself for damn near everything it pulled during season 1, though there are still away to many apologies, and adds more action. Still a pretty goofy show overall but I see its charm now. Humor goes a long way.

Still, I wish Laurel would die or go away. She's as annoying as ever. If she's not yelling, she's crying. And everyone around her never puts her in her place.

Diggle my Niggle and Felicity are still the best though. Oliver is still a pansy, but I guess that's his character now.

And Black Dynamite is in this show! Glad to see him getting parts. Not really well versed with comics, so does anyone know what character he's playing? He ain't no normal nigga, he's super nigga. He's like a black ass wolverine if you will....and he can fly...under water.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on May 03, 2014, 09:53:57 AM
Fargo. Oh my. That's all I can say. Wow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2014, 10:22:46 AM
Season 2 is much better so far. It makes fun itself for damn near everything it pulled during season 1, though there are still away to many apologies, and adds more action. Still a pretty goofy show overall but I see its charm now. Humor goes a long way.

Still, I wish Laurel would die or go away. She's as annoying as ever. If she's not yelling, she's crying. And everyone around her never puts her in her place.

Diggle my Niggle and Felicity are still the best though. Oliver is still a pansy, but I guess that's his character now.

And Black Dynamite is in this show! Glad to see him getting parts. Not really well versed with comics, so does anyone know what character he's playing? He ain't no normal nigga, he's super nigga. He's like a black ass wolverine if you will....and he can fly...under water.

He is playing Bronze Tiger... a downgraded version, and underutilized.

Laurel does some serious method acting during season 2. see if you can spot how.
If you search back in this thread, there are some memes I made for it somewhere.
They seem kinda mean, but they were made in good fun.

I believe the apologies stop... but the action and forward progression almost never slows down.
There will be about 8-10 episodes that would all classify as a season finale on just about any other show, and then you will realize that you are no where near the end of the season. It's great. This show paces itself like every week could be it's last. I love it. Nothing gets dragged out for too long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 04, 2014, 09:40:05 PM
Haha I love the sound effects on this show. They are so bad.

Also can detective Lance not breath through his nose? No matter what he's doing, he always panting and hyperventilating and just really having trouble breathing. Hahaha
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 06, 2014, 02:42:08 AM
Back on the grind.

Just finished the Russian prison episode. Finally, Oliver is acting like a real person. Banging his CEO partner? Probably not the smartest move in the long run, but it does get her off your back for a while. Plus, maybe she'll try to impress you.

Speaking of women, they brought in that one chick from My Cousin Skeeter?! Hahaha can't complain. She's very nice to look at, although did anyone notice her upper lip? Either one of two things happened. 1, she has a huge upper lip. Or 2, they're trying to cover something up. I don't think it was a coincidence that her scene had dramatic shadows either.

As for the actual story. I'm still not sure what the **** is going on. As BnM said, they just keep going, and it's too fast to consider why anything is important. I will say this though, either have the Moms trail or don't. Her in prison dictating how her children feel is an annoying subplot. Get to the meat of it.

And lastly, I know they're building up to something, or at least it seems like it, but we need a more interesting villain or superhero to arrive stat. The Canary backstory was dope until it stopped being about the League. So bring in someone. Damn near anyone else will do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 06, 2014, 10:02:20 PM
And just like that they resolve all the main issues I've had. (It was like they consulted me on future episodes. That's how resolved it is.) But I guess it was fairly obvious.

Still cheesy as ever, but still fun. I always like DC superheros and villians so keep on piling them in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on May 06, 2014, 11:29:57 PM
And just like that they resolve all the main issues I've had. (It was like they consulted me on future episodes. That's how resolved it is.) But I guess it was fairly obvious.

Still cheesy as ever, but still fun. I always like DC superheros and villians so keep on piling them in.

Ha ha! I was waiting for you to catch up some more. Since I'm up to date, I knew what was coming and that all the objections you mentioned were soon to be resolved. It was sort of hilarious reading them and how everything you were asking for would soon take place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 07, 2014, 02:24:05 AM
Stogi, what episode are you on?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 07, 2014, 09:44:42 AM
Season 2 episode 12 or when he reveals his identity to Roy. Speaking of which, why is that the only way to solve a crisis? He's done that like four times. Batman would have, you know, not done that. But I guess superheros say "We can't all be Batman" too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 10, 2014, 01:16:20 PM
So you have to be shot to join the crew? This is worse than the Yakuza.

BnM, I finally got your method acting joke. I noticed it long before, but it took me a while to put 2 and 2 together. She looks terrrrriiibbbble. I wonder if the writers noticed it first and were like "we could use this." Cheeky bastards.

Helena is pretty annoying too but only because they keep circling around the triangle affair. If Oliver were a man, he would cut them both off but *sigh*.....he isn't.

In fact, Oliver does literally the exact opposite of what I would do in almost every situation that doesn't involve him actually fighting. Sometimes I feel proud of him finally standing up for himself, only for him to ruin it moments later. If he really wants to be a superhero, he's dragging way too many people and relationships along. I know they already dealt with him trying to be an asshole and he failed, but being completely easy to read emotionally is worse. Try again. Tell everyone to **** off. Bang the hottest women you can find. And be irresponsible with your wealth (while being responsible with your company). It's that easy. No one will ever ask for your help or want you to love them again, and you know what? They'll all be protected.

And for the love of Jebus, stop messing with Felicity. Poor girl. You don't need another chick that loves you and who knows your identity. Make it all business, no pleasure. That "You'll always be my girl" comment sounded sweet but that fucked you in the long run. You could have played it so you could bang her if you wanted to at damn near anytime and have it mean nothing, but now if you do, you're locked in. For instance, you could play the asshole and then one fateful night show up drunk and reveal just a bit of humanity, a bit of a chink in the armor and you're in. Then resume being an asshole. But nooooope. Which brings me to my last point....

Where the **** is Barry? Coma is weak writing but I understand why they did it. But the Flash was always a better character in my opinion. He needs to show up soon.

Obviously, I'm getting way to into this, but other than DIGGLE MY NIGGLE, no one has there heads on straight and it's tough to watch. Luckily, the story is so ridiculously quick that you never care for more than a minute (although you're reminded when the action stops).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2014, 01:55:45 PM
So you have to be shot to join the crew? This is worse than the Yakuza.

BnM, I finally got your method acting joke. I noticed it long before, but it took me a while to put 2 and 2 together. She looks terrrrriiibbbble. I wonder if the writers noticed it first and were like "we could use this." Cheeky bastards.

I certainly used it.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29156.msg821600#msg821600 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29156.msg821600#msg821600)

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Where the **** is Barry? Coma is weak writing but I understand why they did it. But the Flash was always a better character in my opinion. He needs to show up soon.

Well, originally they planned on The Flash to show up again at the end of the season to air a backdoor episode, but those plans changed when his original 2 episode arc was met with great acceptance, so they decided to shoot a full stand alone pilot instead.
So what i'm trying to say is that the only way you will see The Flash again this season, is in a teaser trailer for his own show during the Arrow season finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 10, 2014, 06:22:23 PM
Person of Interest: "This is the trial of the United States government". They just said THAT on US TV. This season has been so intense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2014, 12:30:56 PM
Game of Thrones
The trial is going to be sooo good
Jaime made a deal with Tywin to retire to Castely Rock and produce children with the actual "Lannister" name for sparing Tyrion's life.
But Cersei had manipulated the trial to the point where Tyrion couldn't take the lies and the betrayal and the heartbreak, so he demand Trial By Combat.
Speculation:
Last time Bronn stepped in and fought for Tyrion's innocence even it was clear that Jaime (the requested representation) couldn't show up, but I just know that Jaime, who had been training with Bronn at the request of Tyrion, will be present and volunteer himself to defend his brother's innocence.
This of course directly conflicts with Tywin's plan to retire Jaime to make more sons to carry on the Lannister name, because if Jaime looses his fight to defend Tyrion, not only does Tyrion die, but Jaime would already be dead/dying.
So now I wonder who Cersei/The court would choose to deliver "justice" against a Jaime/Tyrion defense.
Would The Mountain make a return? Would the knight that was going to beat Sansa before Tyrion stopped him step up?
Remember that no-one, except for Tyrion, Bronn & Jaime know that Jaime is a very skilled swordsman with his left hand now. Everyone else still thinks him leading the Kings Guard is a joke and that he can't actually fight.

Edit: I actually think that Tywin might choose Bronn, who supposedly escorted Tywins "whore" Shae out of the city, to fight for "justice" since he knows that is Tyrion's go to guy and the only likely person to volunteer to fight for Tyrion like the first time. That is when Jaime will volunteer himself. That is when Tywin will realize that he is fucked either way. What would happen next at that point?

So hopefully they pick up on that in the next episode...

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on May 12, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
This preview shows a great moment from the book.

It even inspired fanart of it's own:
(http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs15/f/2007/081/9/1/Sansa_by_akizhao.jpg) (http://azekeprofit.deviantart.com/art/Sansa-51420757)

Also in upcoming episodes there will be another scene that also had a great fan comic recreation.

I will probably link that too, once it airs. It's great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 13, 2014, 07:39:06 AM
Continuum: Two clunky episodes in a row which a lot of nothing happens. The show has been spinning it's wheels very hard since introducing the time travel element last season, doing absolutely nothing with it. It's kind of concerning how they're spinning wheels in a 13 episode season.

American Dad: Genevieve Vavance is awesome. That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 13, 2014, 10:11:52 AM
The season finale of the Blacklist was pretty good, left a lot unresolved. Raymond Reddington gets a fair amount of killing in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 13, 2014, 10:31:44 AM
Game of Thrones
The trial is going to be sooo good
Jaime made a deal with Tywin to retire to Castely Rock and produce children with the actual "Lannister" name for sparing Tyrion's life.
But Cersei had manipulated the trial to the point where Tyrion couldn't take the lies and the betrayal and the heartbreak, so he demand Trial By Combat.
Speculation:
Last time Bronn stepped in and fought for Tyrion's innocence even it was clear that Jaime (the requested representation) couldn't show up, but I just know that Jaime, who had been training with Bronn at the request of Tyrion, will be present and volunteer himself to defend his brother's innocence.
This of course directly conflicts with Tywin's plan to retire Jaime to make more sons to carry on the Lannister name, because if Jaime looses his fight to defend Tyrion, not only does Tyrion die, but Jaime would already be dead/dying.
So now I wonder who Cersei/The court would choose to deliver "justice" against a Jaime/Tyrion defense.
Would The Mountain make a return? Would the knight that was going to beat Sansa before Tyrion stopped him step up?
Remember that no-one, except for Tyrion, Bronn & Jaime know that Jaime is a very skilled swordsman with his left hand now. Everyone else still thinks him leading the Kings Guard is a joke and that he can't actually fight.

Edit: I actually think that Tywin might choose Bronn, who supposedly escorted Tywins "whore" Shae out of the city, to fight for "justice" since he knows that is Tyrion's go to guy and the only likely person to volunteer to fight for Tyrion like the first time. That is when Jaime will volunteer himself. That is when Tywin will realize that he is fucked either way. What would happen next at that point?

So hopefully they pick up on that in the next episode...

Man....that last little speech that Tyrion gives gave me goosebumps. I mean, how pissed would you be? Betrayed by everyone (other than Jaime)? Your family, your loved one, the city which you saved? I would be livid.

That scene was perfect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 13, 2014, 02:45:30 PM
POI

That was intense. I have no idea what the hell is going to happen, I just know a bunch of people have different motives and they all think they're right. This is how you make a suspenseful season finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2014, 03:52:04 PM
Man....that last little speech that Tyrion gives gave me goosebumps. I mean, how pissed would you be? Betrayed by everyone (other than Jaime)? Your family, your loved one, the city which you saved? I would be livid.

That scene was perfect.

What's even more perfect is that there are so many ways it can be handles.

In all scenario's though, Tyrion has fucked up Tywin's plans as Jaime is no longer held to his agreement to retire now that Tyrion has declared Trial by Combat.

And who decides their champion first also could change the outcome of events.
Tyrion could choose to fight for himself and demand to face his accuser (LOL Tyrion vs Cersei - not gonna happen, but that would be HILARIOUS*) to which they may laugh and then call upon Jaime to face his little brother. (*Maybe he ask to face his father in combat to the death...?)
Tyrion could call upon Jaime to defend him... and then of course Tywin would probably envoke some clauses from the rule book stating that a member of the King's Guard couldn't stand against the prosection/King and defend the accused (especially in a case of King Slaying). And then he wouldn't be able to call upon Bronn, because he isn't even present (...currently under investigation or something I think)
The Lannisters could call first and call upon The Mountain, who I don't think we've seen since he was banished way back in s1.... but if they did that, then I'm sure that either Tyrion would call upon or this person would volunteer their services because that was the main reason he came to King's Landing - Prince Oberon
(this might put a kink in Tywin's plan as well, as he need Dorne(?) on his side and having their prince slayed in battle would probably not go over well - Tywin could also evoke some clause in the rule books against a judge on the trial - prior to TbC - cannot be considered champion)
unless by some chance The Hound wanders back into the area, but I don't think Tyrion would name him, and I doubt The Hound would come back regardless. I'm not even sure he knows that Joffrey is dead BTW.


So many ways it could go and all of them I wouldn't be mad to see.

Also I'm gonna laugh if after all is said and done, The Lannisters have so much infighting that they destroy themselves, the White walkers come in and tear **** up, Stannis comes and cleans most of that up, and then by the time Daenarys shows up, she just walks right into Kings Landing and claims the throne unchallenged.... huge army w/ 3 dragons, and didn't even need them.
Oh and she marry's Rob Snow, adopts the stark kids and everyone remaining lives happily ever after.
**cut to Bran Stark living life through the eyes of the dragon**
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 13, 2014, 05:14:52 PM
It's pretty interesting, for sure. The trail could go anyway but I feel as if a twist is coming. I mean, I don't see Tyrion being allowed in King's Landing regardless of the outcome of his trail. Cersie wants him dead but banished will do also, the only thing that can't happen is him still being around after a successful Trial by Combat. Tywin has the same motivation as well. Though he cares less about Tyrion, him being around after Tywin went to such degree to bring an alliance together would shame him (for who would want to be allied to such a ridiculous family), but more importantly, it would give more cause for Tyrion to kill him, not only for revenge but because if Tywin dies, the Lannister family name is his to carry.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 14, 2014, 01:22:53 AM
POI

I'm glad I invested the time to watch it. In three seasons, it's done more than most shows since Breaking Bad and The Wire story wise. The heroes are great; the villians are better; and the whole thing seems to be more and more a futuristic causality. An excellent show that, I wish, could be on HBO.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2014, 01:42:46 AM
POI: I just watched the season finale and I am quite interested in how next season is going to play out now that the tables have been turned and the dirty secrets have been revealed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2014, 12:49:37 PM
Person of Interest: Let me elaborate now that I have a keyboard infront of me.

Ok, I am shocked to find out that Decima was behind Vigilance the entire time, and everything Vigilance thought they were doing, everything they thought they thought up themselves was actual all part of a larger plan and contained inside a bubble. Old Man Decima played the long con like a master.

Root, I thought she had a much different objective with the 7 servers, maybe uploading a virus in to Samaritan to go live when it did, but really it was just 1 server to hardcode a blindspot per person involved with "Team Machine". I also don't know how Shaw found Root or snuck her way in undetected in just the knick of time, but those are details I choose not to focus on.

What I would like to know is how will they blend into society and will they still be taking numbers. What is their play from here on out? how do they stop Samaritan now that it is nationwide? Once it has access it will never give it up, and all they need to do is put cameras in any additional blind spots and Samaritan will take care of itself. Hopefully Harold has a backdoor trojan in the original code somewhere that has a some sort of "kill switch" or "safety latch" or something.



Agents of SHIELD

Man these last 8-10 episodes have been a fun ride. What a turn around for a show. Captain America reveal was holding this show back storywise as once that became known. HAIL HYDRA. all hell broke loose and everything changed. Granted the show could have been much better in the first half if Loeb didn't have his relatively unconnected episodes preventing some early serialization (that seems to be where everyone is placing blame), but even that was only half the problem.

Now for that finale. LOL, there were some good moments here, and few LOLbad moments too.
Most of the May vs Ward fight was pretty good. She finally got to let a little loose.

Skye had a good bit in this, and exposing the "Incentive Program" helped them turn the tide.
for those that didn't get it, as several review sites seemed to overlook, the "Incentive Program" was nullified by Skye freeing the hostages that were being used to incentivize people to perform their duties. Such as Mike "Deathlok" Peterson being incentivized to stay loyal because Hydra had his son.

I'm not sure what happened to Tripplet during the whole base invasion and stopping of Garrett and Ward, but was on the bus at The Playground so he should be on the team for s2.

LMD or Clone twin... actual brother of Koenig maybe? He did say he was playing CoD with his brother alot I believe... I would have to look again.

And Fitz... what happened to Fitz!? brain damaged? they didn't even show him again after the rescue. whats up with that?

Graviton moves to S2 along with Raina, who seemed to be heavy hinting to Inhumans coming to the MCU, which wouldn't be a surprise.  "evolving... though the mist.... what will I become?"

And Coulson drawing out that "alien" text on the wall like Garrett did earlier, which is the same "alien" text we say back in the episode with the black chick that had the first remote viewing eye.
I'm guessing this all ties back into the blue alien in Project TAHITI which will have some relevance to GotG in a few months, and then will be revisited in s2 in the fall.

Fury actually played a big part in this episode, and even though it was a little cheesy, it was still fun.
Him showing up in the base just in the place he needed to be where Coulson was out manned and out gunned, and hands him a BIG ASS GUN to get the job done was pretty LOLbad, and Coulson taking out full on Deathlok Garrett at the end was fucking LOLgood. completely unexpected with the punchline joke to top it off. But Coulson getting the toolbox to rebuild SHIELD and become the director of it was also unexpected.

but this is also a good direction for next season, as seeing that Agent Carter has a full 13 ep order and will be airing in the mid season break slot of AoS, the show could touch on similar connecting themes.
1st half of AoS s2 could be about getting everything back to together and getting back on their feet.
then Agent Carter airs and shows the origins of SHIELD and the people that made it happen
2nd half of AoS s2 airs and makes call backs to those origins as Couslon gets SHIELD 2.0 up and running again.

And who was Raina talking to at the end... Skye's dad? Who could that be? Are we still lined up for a possible Jessica Drew? who could that be? what was he dripping... blood?


Some unanswered questions, but lots of new threads opened up to follow into season 2 like:
-What was the blue alien. and why didn't it affect Skye mentally like it did Garrett and Coulson?
-Ward is still alive, with a fractured trachea. Will he try to redeem himself since he was ready to put down Garrett for going so far of his expected course and revealing himself to not really be tied to Hydra or Shield, but just Garrett in general.
-Who was the man Raina was talking to, what makes her think that her and Skye are the same inside, and how does this relate to that man.
-Will Coulson be able to rebuild SHIELD?
-What happens to Fitz now? brain damaged? does he become something more, since they have the tech to rebuild a brain that has been dead...
-Gravitonium... what will they do with it. when will it become sentient?

and more that are not coming to me at the moment


So overall:
1st half of AoS = C with a few C+/B- episodes
2nd half of AoS = B+ with a few A- moments.

and I also have to say that AoS overtook Arrow for these last few episodes of the season outside of a few shocking Arrow moments. So I hope the Arrow s2 Finale brings the pain and takes back the comic show HYPE crown. They've kinda dropped the ball so far with this 3 episode finale, but it could still come around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 14, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
POI: The series was just blown completely up with that finale. The look on Collier's face when he realised that Greer was manipulating him from the start was heartbreaking.

The three hackers that Root worked with all got a server of their own, meaning that there is a very good chance all three can return if needed. Also... Fusco, Zoe, Leon and Finch's hacker friend Monica (possibly!) all aren't, so they are on the "outside" and have the biggest advantage - Decima doesn't know about them. The possibilities are are very very wide.


BNM, some thoughts  - there's a chance Claypool wrote a secret code/virus into Samaritan, like Finch did with Northern Lights, to alter its behaviour

Can someone explain how a show this good can sit on a network next to CSI and NCIS?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 14, 2014, 04:49:47 PM
Agents of SHIELD

Man these last 8-10 episodes have been a fun ride. What a turn around for a show. Captain America reveal was holding this show back storywise as once that became known. HAIL HYDRA. all hell broke loose and everything changed. Granted the show could have been much better in the first half if Loeb didn't have his relatively unconnected episodes preventing some early serialization (that seems to be where everyone is placing blame), but even that was only half the problem.

Now for that finale. LOL, there were some good moments here, and few LOLbad moments too.
Most of the May vs Ward fight was pretty good. She finally got to let a little loose.

Skye had a good bit in this, and exposing the "Incentive Program" helped them turn the tide.
for those that didn't get it, as several review sites seemed to overlook, the "Incentive Program" was nullified by Skye freeing the hostages that were being used to incentivize people to perform their duties. Such as Mike "Deathlok" Peterson being incentivized to stay loyal because Hydra had his son.

I'm not sure what happened to Tripplet during the whole base invasion and stopping of Garrett and Ward, but was on the bus at The Playground so he should be on the team for s2.

LMD or Clone twin... actual brother of Koenig maybe? He did say he was playing CoD with his brother alot I believe... I would have to look again.

And Fitz... what happened to Fitz!? brain damaged? they didn't even show him again after the rescue. whats up with that?

Graviton moves to S2 along with Raina, who seemed to be heavy hinting to Inhumans coming to the MCU, which wouldn't be a surprise.  "evolving... though the mist.... what will I become?"

And Coulson drawing out that "alien" text on the wall like Garrett did earlier, which is the same "alien" text we say back in the episode with the black chick that had the first remote viewing eye.
I'm guessing this all ties back into the blue alien in Project TAHITI which will have some relevance to GotG in a few months, and then will be revisited in s2 in the fall.

Fury actually played a big part in this episode, and even though it was a little cheesy, it was still fun.
Him showing up in the base just in the place he needed to be where Coulson was out manned and out gunned, and hands him a BIG ASS GUN to get the job done was pretty LOLbad, and Coulson taking out full on Deathlok Garrett at the end was fucking LOLgood. completely unexpected with the punchline joke to top it off. But Coulson getting the toolbox to rebuild SHIELD and become the director of it was also unexpected.

but this is also a good direction for next season, as seeing that Agent Carter has a full 13 ep order and will be airing in the mid season break slot of AoS, the show could touch on similar connecting themes.
1st half of AoS s2 could be about getting everything back to together and getting back on their feet.
then Agent Carter airs and shows the origins of SHIELD and the people that made it happen
2nd half of AoS s2 airs and makes call backs to those origins as Couslon gets SHIELD 2.0 up and running again.

And who was Raina talking to at the end... Skye's dad? Who could that be? Are we still lined up for a possible Jessica Drew? who could that be? what was he dripping... blood?


Some unanswered questions, but lots of new threads opened up to follow into season 2 like:
-What was the blue alien. and why didn't it affect Skye mentally like it did Garrett and Coulson?
-Ward is still alive, with a fractured trachea. Will he try to redeem himself since he was ready to put down Garrett for going so far of his expected course and revealing himself to not really be tied to Hydra or Shield, but just Garrett in general.
-Who was the man Raina was talking to, what makes her think that her and Skye are the same inside, and how does this relate to that man.
-Will Coulson be able to rebuild SHIELD?
-What happens to Fitz now? brain damaged? does he become something more, since they have the tech to rebuild a brain that has been dead...
-Gravitonium... what will they do with it. when will it become sentient?

and more that are not coming to me at the moment


So overall:
1st half of AoS = C with a few C+/B- episodes
2nd half of AoS = B+ with a few A- moments.

and I also have to say that AoS overtook Arrow for these last few episodes of the season outside of a few shocking Arrow moments. So I hope the Arrow s2 Finale brings the pain and takes back the comic show HYPE crown. They've kinda dropped the ball so far with this 3 episode finale, but it could still come around.
To my great Dismay Disney Decided that they would not put the Episode before the Season Finale up on Regular Hulu in time for someone to Watch it and then catch the Season Finale... So I'm 2 episodes behind...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2014, 05:23:19 PM
To my great Dismay Disney Decided that they would not put the Episode before the Season Finale up on Regular Hulu in time for someone to Watch it and then catch the Season Finale... So I'm 2 episodes behind...

Well don't read anything you just quoted under the spoiler text, because it is spoilered for a reason.
It was a really fun episode with good jokes, cheesy lines, good action, new threads, a few answers, some sacrifice and few surprises.
It was a really good finale for a show that started off more than a little rough.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 15, 2014, 12:04:41 AM
BOOM Arrow ends S2 with a bang.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2014, 12:55:04 AM
BOOM Arrow ends S2 with a bang.

And almost the entire thing was predicted with no surprises to be had.

Why won't Officer Lance just call Ollie by his damn name, this whole "plausible deniability" thing is so fucking stupid it distracts me from the show. Just end it already and make all the necessary jokes that should have already been happening.

Laurel gets kidnapped, Officer Lance's very first stop is over to Queen Consolidated, in the CEO office.... where Sarah is dressed as Canary, Nyssa is looking hot as ****, Felicity is just chillin', and The Arrow is standing there. There is no more denying it, just address it to the group so Ollie can stop doing the awkward head down turn away as if you weren't just standing face to face in full view.
That is like my pet peeve with this show.

Ignore the stupid plot by Amanda Waller to do the Avengers play and nuke the city because of 51 guys (and a girl) that you can't defeat with a punch or a 9mm to the chest.
1st choice of appropriate response.... nuke. Perfectly reasonable.
Small missles or grenades.... nah. Nuke.
But they work just fine.... nope. Nuke em.

And the super late reaction of the guard getting shot at ARGUS. That was LOLworthy.

What about the non existent security at the "SuperMaxx" prison that Slade is being held at. It's just a hatch and a ladder to a cell.

Rochev getting killed mid sentence was also pretty LOL worthy.

Overall I was a little underwhelmed with finale and the way they jumped around constantly (knocked out, then at Queen Consolidated..... unconscious on table, fighting in clock tower...) But overall it was entertaining.
And they did name drop SuperMaxx, but I was less than impressed with what I saw.
But season 3 should pick up off of the island, so that's a plus. I wonder who the big bad well be next season though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 15, 2014, 01:26:39 AM
Arrow finale was satisfying enough for me.

Thea going dark side was nice. I'm glad they have paired down the cast. Thea, Sara, Moira (RIP), Slade, Summer Glau's character, Maybe Detective Lance, exit stage left. Let's bring on the new hotness. Hong Kong looks cool. I'm guessing Ollie gets chipped and has to go on assassination missions for Waller. I'm looking to fresh new action for the season 3. We need a new villian/scenario/threat.

I'm going to make a prediction that Season 5 is going to be all about the list again. Oliver has to be obsessed about the list before he gets rescued and I'm guessing there will be a twist in present day where the list meant more than previously thought.YOU HAVE FAILED THIS CITY
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 15, 2014, 02:49:49 AM
The Originals

Man, what a finale. Season started off great, hit a low point around 2/3 and then pulled out for a very strong finish.
Next season should be very good with how everything is shaping up for Klause & Co.
I'm expecting some more resurrecting on tomorrow's Vampire Diaries. Maybe a long lost brother to reunite a certain family.... possibly some old friends of the VD crew too. VD certainly does need some old blood back, so I hope that finale is anywhere near as good as TO was tonite.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 21, 2014, 10:53:09 PM
Alright, they just put the Season Finale of AoS on Hulu.  It is excellent.  Its definitely delivered on the hints of where the writing could go.  I enjoy non-angsty normal Coulson better.  I hope they do tie theme wise Agent Carter and AoS.

I like how they turned a groan moment into a LOL.  Though I'm wondering if who played Fitz wanted out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on May 22, 2014, 06:34:11 PM
Nah Fitz is going to probably be okay but either due to "comics" become a super genius who can no longer feel love just as Simmons loves him, or becomes much darker since Simmons is with Trip. If anything that's one part of agents of shield that seems copied from Angel, (similar to how Skye is Buffy and Coulson is Giles.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 22, 2014, 08:56:30 PM
Fitz has been getting darker throughout the season.  Which makes his stuff with Ward weird but, he was the only character that could do it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
If you check IMDB for Guardians of the Galaxy and scroll down towards the bottom of the cast, you might find a link to AoS in the name of a character called Dr. Fitz... or it could be something of a coincidence.

That might give you something to look forward too and a reason to go see the next MCU movie.


edit: and then there is this...
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Mega-Buzz-Orange-Black-Vampire-Diaries-SVU-Spoilers-1082094.aspx
Quote
Fitz told Simmons he loves her! Does that mean they'll get together next season on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.? — ​Priya

Not so fast! Did you notice that when Simmons kissed Fitz, she smooched him everywhere but on ​his actual mouth? "Clearly, any time one person says something and a person doesn't reciprocate, it changes things," executive producer Jeffrey Bell tells me. "It's safe to say there will be consequences." Further complicating matters: Producers want to keep Agent Triplett around.

So.... #everythingchanges!?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 22, 2014, 11:59:35 PM
Rewatched the Warehouse 13 Series Finale that aired a few nights ago. I'm saving my main thoughts for the next NFR, but it was a damn fine episode and did a fantastic job of putting a bow on a very inconsistent and frustrating series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 02, 2014, 01:44:43 AM
OMG @ Game of Thrones tonite....

I called it right after the match started too...
this muthafucker is gonna get beheaded with all this talking....
He didn't exactly lose his head, but they will have a hard time collecting all the pieces.
Poor Tyrion


Gotta wait a while nother week
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 02, 2014, 03:32:41 AM
Can we just please give Tatiana Maslany every award going?

Rachel's icy exterior shattering ever so slightly when she sees her father for the first time.

Tatiana acting as Sarah who is acting as Alison while falling in and out of Alison's own soccer mom accent back to Sarah's english one.

Several times i forget that i'm actually watching the same woman act as six characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on June 02, 2014, 05:00:30 AM
I can finally post this comic:
(http://mccomseycomix.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/rv_01_redux_web.png?w=600) (http://mccomseycomix.wordpress.com/2013/06/26/the-red-viper-vs-the-mountain-that-rides-a-12-page-comic/)
Cool moments from the books are running out. We have some really boring crap waiting for us in the next two years at least...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 02, 2014, 10:04:00 AM
Cool moments from the books are running out. We have some really boring crap waiting for us in the next two years at least...

Oh good, so we can look forward to the entire show being as boring and pointless as Daenerys' storyline (and to some extent John Snow's) has been for at least 2 seasons. Greeeeaaat.  ::)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 02, 2014, 10:18:37 AM
A real shame with Almost Human. I really like that show. The chemistry was great, lots of neat world building even if it did reference Bitcoin (LOL).

It's a crime that it got cancelled when you have **** like The Tomorrow People and Vampire Dairies still alive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 02, 2014, 10:43:10 AM
The Tomorrow People was also cancelled. So there is some justice in the world.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on June 02, 2014, 11:41:03 AM

Oh good, so we can look forward to the entire show being as boring and pointless as Daenerys' storyline (and to some extent John Snow's) has been for at least 2 seasons. Greeeeaaat.  ::)
Haha, oh you don't know what "boring" even means yet. Dany's crap is only gonna get even more pointless, and not only that but other previously great character will also turn to be more annoying than enjoyable.


It's good that they're combining fourth and five books together because 4th was just atrocious with all bad and uninteresting POV characters all concentrated in one book, one after another without a single good spot in between.


You know this is some weak writing when you realize afterwards that Cersei had all the best and any meaningful chapters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2014, 12:09:57 PM
I watched the first two seasons of Luther on Netflix. Great show. Serious Crime Unit detective Idris Elba gets himself in and out of jams and kind of goes crazy on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2014, 05:54:07 PM
Cosmos - ;_;

Why does this show make me emotional? It makes me so hopeful of the future, that I almost want to get off my bed/couch and participate it making it happen (except it's usually after 9pm when I watch, and wouldn't know where to start or possess the correct degrees to participate in the creation of the future as I imagine it at this moment.... I know, excuses, excuses.).
This show just seamlessly blends History and Astrology with Geology, Science and Technology that you end up learning so much in topics you previously couldn't have cared less about... it actually makes you care and become aware and hopeful. It presents ideas followed up with facts/data/examples/graphics/charts or whatever is needed to illustrate the point, and explain it in a way that just makes sense to the average viewer w/o ever talking down or attempting to push the point above your head or shoe it down your throat.

If you haven't been checking this show out this season, I highly recommend it. There is one episode left for season 1 which airs this upcoming Sun or Mon on Fox.


edit: This is the type of show that I could see being shown to the Science/astrology class in a middle/highschool or something. Show the video, have a discussion, do some experiments based on what was discussed and then move on to some related stuff until you do the next episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on June 03, 2014, 07:10:10 PM
I'm catching up with Hannibal now that it is on Netflix Canada. This show is gruesome! Mads Mikkleson (sp?) is great as Dr. Lecter.

Hola
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 03, 2014, 07:39:17 PM
Hannibal is great TV. Gruesome, gory, psychological horror and on NBC of all places.

Season 3 will surely be crazy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 04, 2014, 03:22:00 PM
if you havent checked it out yet. Go watch FARGO. Really good, a different plotline than the movie in case you guys were staying away.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on June 04, 2014, 03:31:29 PM
if you havent checked it out yet. Go watch FARGO. Really good, a different plotline than the movie in case you guys were staying away.
I second this. Last night's episode was unreal in terms of story progression. Two weeks ago, unreal in terms of particular scenes involving blind, snowy situations and gunfire. Wow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on June 04, 2014, 10:08:08 PM
Cosmos - ;_;

Why does this show make me emotional? It makes me so hopeful of the future, that I almost want to get off my bed/couch and participate it making it happen (except it's usually after 9pm when I watch, and wouldn't know where to start or possess the correct degrees to participate in the creation of the future as I imagine it at this moment.... I know, excuses, excuses.).
This show just seamlessly blends History and Astrology with Geology, Science and Technology that you end up learning so much in topics you previously couldn't have cared less about... it actually makes you care and become aware and hopeful. It presents ideas followed up with facts/data/examples/graphics/charts or whatever is needed to illustrate the point, and explain it in a way that just makes sense to the average viewer w/o ever talking down or attempting to push the point above your head or shoe it down your throat.

If you haven't been checking this show out this season, I highly recommend it. There is one episode left for season 1 which airs this upcoming Sun or Mon on Fox.


edit: This is the type of show that I could see being shown to the Science/astrology class in a middle/highschool or something. Show the video, have a discussion, do some experiments based on what was discussed and then move on to some related stuff until you do the next episode.

I also get unusually close to being choked up during this show. No idea why.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 19, 2014, 03:51:20 PM
I'm going to start watching Arrow, but only S1 so far. What episodes do you think i should watch,a and which i should skip?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 19, 2014, 04:07:09 PM
I'll look for a list for you*, but I know it's consistently good just past the halfway mark of S1.
There are a few spotty episodes before that, but none are sooo bad that you should definitely skip them, unless you are just pressed for time. You have all summer to catch up before S3 starts.


*If I don't post it, I either didn't find it or forgot to actually look.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 19, 2014, 06:11:37 PM
I reckon watch it all. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 25, 2014, 04:55:26 PM
I've started watching it and i'm up to episdoe 7.

I've recognised six regular canadian actors - all of which have been in canadian produced sci-fi, and four are in Continuum. I've also recognised some filming locations used in both Fringe and Almost Human.

This show is really showing its roots.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 26, 2014, 01:41:36 AM
at some point you will notice some sets from Smallville too, if you ever watched that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on June 26, 2014, 01:52:14 AM
at some point you will notice some sets from Smallville too, if you ever watched that show.
What i was watching Smallville i started noticing sets from Lois and Clark.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 29, 2014, 03:26:34 PM
Two more. That brings the total to eleven, and its only episode 12.

Every single one of these have appeared in Continuum, one of the Stargate series, Almost Human or Fringe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 02, 2014, 05:02:16 PM
Constantine S01E01

yep. it leaked. I watched it.
I can't say I hated it, but I don't really see this show finding it's intended audience. It just sorta throws you into the mix of things with little explanation as to what's going on. I'm guessing they are saving that for later episodes, which would be fine, had the 1st episode really made me want to tune in for more episodes. I would probably check out at least the first 3 or 4 eps just because I like to give shows I think should hold my interest a decent chance at keeping it, but.... based on the 1st ep alone, I don't see this show lasting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on July 05, 2014, 02:09:02 PM
Constantine S01E01

yep. it leaked. I watched it.
I can't say I hated it, but I don't really see this show finding it's intended audience. It just sorta throws you into the mix of things with little explanation as to what's going on. I'm guessing they are saving that for later episodes, which would be fine, had the 1st episode really made me want to tune in for more episodes. I would probably check out at least the first 3 or 4 eps just because I like to give shows I think should hold my interest a decent chance at keeping it, but.... based on the 1st ep alone, I don't see this show lasting.


To be fair the supernatural pilot did something similar and waited to tell the Winchester's backstory later in the series.


The thing with Constatine is you really don't need a defnite look at his origins and if the show is taking from Hellblazer and the current comic than they'll probably get to it by the middle of the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 05, 2014, 02:30:51 PM
...
It just sorta throws you into the mix of things with little explanation as to what's going on.
...
Now I might be interested.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 06, 2014, 03:52:09 PM
I just binged my way through all of Season 1 of Arrow.

The finale was great - this show has been consistently good since the very beginning. It has a way to go before it achieves the Person of Interest level of jump in quality (and that went from good to amazing in one season) but its close. Still a good watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 11, 2014, 06:31:37 PM
Just started watching Game of Thrones. Good show. Started yesterday, halfway through the first episode of Season 2 now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 13, 2014, 02:11:43 AM
Two seasons down, two to go. I almost feel left out for having never watched it before, but it's pretty awesome being able to watch 40 episodes in a handful of days instead of years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 13, 2014, 03:44:31 AM
The worst part is when you catch up and have to suffer the wait with the rest of us.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 13, 2014, 02:02:51 PM
And if you become so enthralled by the show that you want to read the books to see what happens, you'll still have to wait for him to finish the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2014, 10:03:29 PM
Salem
Finale was kinda crazy. The scene in the cabin back room was all sorts of nutz.
Those eyes. That chick has never looked hotter... didn't really see her as hot until that scene to be honest. and you'll have to watch to know what scene I mean... or you could just click this link: http://i.imgur.com/YM34eJ6.jpg


Naked and afraid
Mmm Mmmm Mmm. The chick on the latest episode was pretty fucking hot. even without makeup and all dirty. I don't know how the dude with her refused to cuddle even after she backed that beautiful ass up into his bare lap in the middle of the night.
I woulda told my wife (if I was him... I ain't married, but he was) that we had to do what we had to do to survive out there. and beg for the after hours scenes to be cut, because it wouldn't have been able to be seen on TV anyway. Really would have been Too Hot for TV.
She was an ex-marine and a part time model. Banging body. and very capable on her own.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 18, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
So I finished it. Awesome show, can't wait for season 5. Only 9 months...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on July 18, 2014, 01:12:14 AM
So I finished it. Awesome show, can't wait for season 5. Only 9 months...
You know nothing:
(http://i.minus.com/iCBQ5j8u3pArm.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on July 18, 2014, 02:23:51 PM
Wheel of Time took the Author Dieing to come to a conclusion.  I do have to say that the books done after his death are written more like his first few books that I enjoyed more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 04, 2014, 09:04:03 PM
The Strain - has anyone seen this?
It's a new twist on the Vampire by Guillermo Del Toro and airing on FX

It's interesting, but oh boy do they have so many loose threads dangling that just seeming get ignored for no good reason.

*Spoilers* for all episodes up till #4
So a Plane lands and everyone on it is seemingly dead. The CDC intervenes and can't decide a cause of death. Other agencies want this to go away, so someone leaks an "official" document claiming it was CO2 poisoning or something, which effectively kicks the CDC off the case...
Before they evac all the bodies off the plane (like 2 hrs after it landed) 4 people "wake up" from being dead of "unknown causes". These 4 people are initially quarantined, but after the CDC is officially removed from the case, they are released into the wild against CDC's will.

NOw during this whole debacle, an old man who knows something about what is going on tried to warn the CDC members on site of what was going on and how to deal with it, but he was dismissed as crazy and ushered away (arrested for some reason I can't recall at this moment). Also the head of one of the investigative departments was attacked by a "vampire" in the halls of the airport loading bay, where he was alone, and then had his head smashed in... This is just kinda glossed over. No real investigation as to how, why or who.
They also locate a giant box full of dirt in the bay, which by the time they figure may be important, has already disappeared. It was caught on film... super speed lifter away in less than a second. Camera could only see a blur.

So this is where all the loose threads dangle for no reason.
All the dead bodies are at the morgue with the medical examiner, where he finds something odd about them, and is told to dig deeper and report back later. All of these bodies eventually "wake up" and eat him or something. and then they all just WALK OUT OF THE HOSPITAL UNSEEN.... some have been already examined, which means they have open incisions or have organs exposed... WTF?
they disappear into the night, never to be heard from again (yet). No one is looking for the medical examiner, they only found his glasses. No calls are made, no reports filed. NO ONE IS INFORMED THAT several dozen bodies have disappeared from the morgue and the medical examiner has not been heard from since... WTF!?

One of the concerned parents of a child that was considered "dead" on the plane called the CDC guy to thank him for sending his "dead" daughter home.
"you mean they released her body to you...?"
"NO, I mean she is here, alive, home again"...
Granted. he does go and check the house out, finds a bathtub full of some pink slop and no one home even though the door to the house was kinda open/unlocked... but he leaves because he has somewhere else to be. Tells no one to follow up on that house. It's just kinda forgotten about for now.

One of the survivors isn't feeling good and is convinced to come back to quarantine where he is being examined. Some weird things are happening to him, but CDC does not report this stuff and immediately re-quarantine the other 3 people. Nope. I think they mention it, but do nothing about it.

One of the other 3 "survivors" has his penis fall off.... that's after he lost some teeth and all his hair. No need to see a doctor though. Actually, he wasn't even trippin' to be honest. Just kinda accepted it for what it was...


Another "survivor" knew something was very wrong and even send his wife and children away... but no, leave the dog.... he ate the dog, and then locked himself in the shed so he couldn't eat anyone/thing else. His heavily religious wife shows back up to the house the next day to check on him, sees his hair all over the pillow, takes out some religious artifacts and says a prayer or something... then follows a blood trail that leads her to the dead disemboweled dog next to the shed... and then her vampiric husband chained in the shed. He tries to attack her, and then warns her to run and never come back, but just like any white lady in a scary situation, she freezes and just stands there terrified, but just barely out of reach. (I was waiting for her to trip, fall, and get eaten...)
She finally snaps out of it, closes and locks her hubby back in the shed and buries the dog next to the shed. This is moments before the neighbor comes over to complain about the "dog" making too much noise... so she shoves him in the shed with her husband and locks the door... WTF!?
quite the turn around from devout religious type, to sacrificing your neighbor by get this, offering him the opportunity to punish your "dog" in the shed making all that noise because you don't have the heart... Wow. Ok.

Back to the survivor that turned himself back in... he disappeared from his hospital bed, and they track him to the basement. Here he attacks them with his tentacle fangs (the vampirism in this show is like a parasite worm that feeds and infects with more parasitic worms). They end up killing him, and the female agent suggest that they listen to the old man (they previous deemed crazy) and cut off the heads and burn the bodies, but first male CDC says "we must dissect". They find that the body is no longer human and has been invaded by a giant parasitic host. see pics below

NSFL Pics: http://abload.de/img/strain2a3kzd.gif (http://abload.de/img/strain2a3kzd.gif) | http://abload.de/img/strain6p5pgm.gif (http://abload.de/img/strain6p5pgm.gif)

so NOW he remembers (2 days/episodes later?) that the concerned parent who's house was unlocked, empty and had a weird pink goo in the bathtub had called and said something about his dead daughter being alive. so they rush back to the house to find the little girl in the basement. she attacks them with the tentacle fang just before the old man burst in and lops the head off the kid and then saves them from the turned dad as well... now the CDC woman can't handle that they had to a little girl (who was so obviously not human anymore - as shown in the previous scene where she was all for lopping off heads and burning bodies) and states that she would rather contract the disease than kill the monsters.... really!? WTF?

and there is more going on, (like a hacker who in the span of just a few hours was able to shut down all social networking sites and bring all internet traffic to a crawl so that the evil corporation of the show could cover their tracks) but really... I really want to LOVE this show, but it's so nonsensical. It's more of a guilty pleasure for now, but they really need a proof reader to bring the red pen to the script and make some of this **** make better sense. Not nearly as bad as Netflix's Hemlock Grove, but I expected better.... and this is based off his own book. it's a damn shame really.
I'll continue to watch, but this should be so much better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 04, 2014, 09:37:22 PM
I recently completed a run of Buffy the Vampire Slayer from first episode to the end, took a detour into Angel for a few episodes then lost interest in that. Over all the show was not as good as I remembered it. I never watched it regularly but I would try to catch it from time to time at a friends house or whenever I could but I never really got too into the show.


I also decided to catch up on Family Guy, last episode I watched on TV was Stewie Kills Lois and I had been losing interest for a while by then so I figured good now I can move on. For some reason I always thought that was the end and why they spun off into Cleveland which I never even bother watching. I am watching them all on Netflix and I learned that not only did the show keep going its still going. I kind of wish I had left it alone I liked thinking that was the final episode it gave the show nice closure now its just dragging its feet, its going to be worse than the Simpsons if it keeps going too much longer. Do a Futurama and take a break to make some movies or something to keep it fresh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on August 09, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
Just finished Arrow, season two.

Wow. That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 09, 2014, 11:29:24 PM
Is that a bad wow? I hated the finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 10, 2014, 12:34:56 AM
Yeah, I don't think it's fair to have a one-worded review with just the word "wow".  It's pretty ambiguous as to which extreme you're wishing to express.  It's especially murky when consider how en vogue the concept of "extremely average/meh" is.  (It's fairly en vogue.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 10, 2014, 02:48:37 AM
I also thought the s2 finale was very very weak.
A definite low point of the whole series.

The villain pretty much became a joke, motivations were either silly or stupid on either side (really Waller?... really) and it all ended in such disappointment. It should have been better, but hopefully next season will make up for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 10, 2014, 09:32:49 AM
I also thought the s2 finale was very very weak.
A definite low point of the whole series.

The villain pretty much became a joke, motivations were either silly or stupid on either side (really Waller?... really) and it all ended in such disappointment. It should have been better, but hopefully next season will make up for it.

I think the series as a whole has been "good" but never "great". Meanwhile i use POI as a reference for how a show can make that jump - but i fear Arrow cannot do that because its requirement is to be very action heavy (which POI does in smaller stints).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on August 10, 2014, 09:42:13 AM
its a soap opera superhero show, it was expected to be worst than the first season. The first season is looked upon as being so good becuase the finale was a bit suprising with the hero essentially losing and playing up the more Batman Begins story.  While the season 2 finale pulls up much of the CW/Tumblr audience and goes for the the hopeful hero who doesn't kill but should probably make an expection for this crazy **** slade who knows who you are and threatened your friend something you killed the count for.




It was a combination of that and the writers and shooting throwing nearly everything that the fans liked to that point into one episode. We got Nysaa and Canary coming back with an army, we got some more sucide squad and deadshot, we more feels ending with Slade being tied to the wall and Merlyn coming back for thea. It was made to be as gifable. I was half expecting The Flash to come in and help, until the pilot was pushed back to go straight to series.






I felt the past stuff was still pretty good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Sarail on August 10, 2014, 10:19:07 AM
Wow as in...I loved it. I feel like it's setting things up quite well for season three now. Laurel possibly taking up the mantle of Black Canary, Thea getting recruited by her real father into the League of Assassins (more than likely) to become...Cheshire? Roy turning good and becoming Arsenal. I'm psyched. I thought everything was brought together incredible well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Oblivion on August 12, 2014, 02:06:51 AM
True Detective Season 1

Taking a break from anime, I decided to watch the first season of True Detective. Holy **** was this show good. I give it 11/10. I have no idea how they will top or even meet the standard that they started.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 12, 2014, 02:47:14 AM
we got some more sucide squad and deadshot,

This bugged me - i get why Diggle and Deadshot have something going on, but the lack of Michael Jae White was really noticeable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on August 18, 2014, 12:00:23 AM
I caught about ten minutes of something called Manhattan on WGN. We were watching for the weather report as there were severe storms all around us so I only got a little bit of it. Looked interesting wondering if this is a new show I hadn't heard about or something that I just missed as is most often the case.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 21, 2014, 10:11:43 AM
An Idiot Abroad

It's Ricky Gervais sending Karl Pilkington around the globe. If you don't know these people, then it's a comedian sending someone who hates to travel around the globe. This show is unintentionally hilarious. Karl's commentary is brilliantly pessimistic, but somehow agreeable. And through his eyes, you see why people really love to travel but don't mention roughly half of their experience when recollecting it.

Watch it. It's on Netflix. My favorite episodes are when he comes home at the end of the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2014, 11:56:11 PM
Power (50 Cent's new show on Starz)

Good.
summary: Black man from the streets, tries to "exit" the drug game and go legit by opening up a night club. He struggles to balance his street life/business, his club life/business and his family/love life without it all blowing up in his face.
more spoilery summary: Black man wants to minimize his involvement in the streets and focus on the legit Club life, much to the disappointment to his longtime friend and business partner who wants to keep both feet in the streets. Club Life/Business is seriously compromising Black Man's attention span and focus on the real business of pushing weight in the streets and keeping all the customers happy. That is the bread and butter after all.
Drama pops off when someone is out to break up the well oiled street trafficking thing they got going on by killing off business partners and associates, but they can't seem to get a beat on who has the motive, and who the hitter is. It also doesn't help that the DEA just came into town looking for their #1 supplier, and their paths cross in more ways than one.


It's 8 episodes long, and an easy watch. I recommend it.
good freshman season. I look forward to to see how they follow it up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 22, 2014, 03:18:45 PM
That sound very Stereotypical. Also reminds me of Arrow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2014, 04:10:19 PM
It may be sterotypical, but the partnership is Black man as bossman, his right hand and parter is an Irish white guy, the other business associates are of either Latin descent or Black as well, and the DEA is all shades but black (so far). There is a nice mix of everything except for asian at this point.
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Women are good looking, and there is lots of sex and nudity (it is a Starz show).

I'm gonna guess the club **** is the part that reminds you of Arrow? but let me just tell you that this show is absolutely nothing like Arrow from a story perspective.

If you are looking for something new to watch, and this sounds even remotely interesting to you, I would suggest checking out the pilot. If you feel that, then you should like the rest of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on August 22, 2014, 06:30:59 PM
Someone wanting to leave the life they had to redeem themselves.  Opens a Club.  Old Life keeps interfering or defining new life.  Family and love life keeps trying to blow up.

All White DEA.
Irish Mafia essentially.
Latin and Black in the drug trade.

This is sounding like taking to the extreme.  Still might be fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2014, 08:18:08 PM
nope

DEA is multi-cultural and multi-gender
Gang leaders are Black, Latino, and white
Drug Runners are mostly white so far.
Cartel is South American/Latino of some sort.

No asian people in sight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: harvjones on August 24, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
Have anyone watched suits ??
suits season 4 was blasting can't wait for another season  ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 25, 2014, 10:24:48 PM
I checked out the first ep of An Idiot Abroad
that **** is pretty damn funny. I will be slowly making my way through the rest of the episodes.

The Strain
Am I the only one watching this? Does no one else like B Horror with all the horror tropes in a new twist on the "vampire" mythology? This show is so bad, that it went full circle and is good again.
The reactions of most of the characters will have you yelling at the screen like "Don't go in there idiot"... "girl, you better not trip and fall"... "just drive away idiot!!!, NOOO don't get out the car!!! WTF is wrong with you!!!?" like a good bad horror movie will do.
and the reveal at the end of the most recent episode jump ups the crazy even more.
It's based on a series of books by Guillermo Del Toro, and while I say this show it bad, it's still terribly entertaining.


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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on August 28, 2014, 10:04:17 PM
That's some RE4 **** right there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 04, 2014, 02:25:01 PM
Once upon a time.


Mr.Gold/Beast/Rumplestillskin is probably the best character in the show showing a range of different acting abilites. early in the second season but the show can be hard to follow the way it jumps between the past and present for both storybrooke and magic land.


Still can't help but wish this was based on fables instead of being a disney universe show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 05, 2014, 07:42:43 PM
Mr.Gold/Beast/Rumplestillskin is probably the best character in the show showing a range of different acting abilites. early in the second season but the show can be hard to follow the way it jumps between the past and present for both storybrooke and magic land.

Robert Carlyle - the actor who plays him - also played Nicholas Rush in SGU and he was very good there too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Dan Laser on September 05, 2014, 09:37:58 PM
The Strain

I’m watching it, too! After all, I went and posted about it in the New TV/Movies thread.

Yeah, it’s kinda bad. Some of the acting is terrible, and other times I’m not sure if its the writing or the direction, or what exactly is to blame. I’m glad that they’re getting to the real vampire horror stuff now - perhaps they should’ve quickened the pace a bit to get there sooner. It’s full of clichés and its predictable yet I’m still watching. It should continue to get more interesting.

Like you said, it’s really cheesy, but makes for a fun, silly B-horror show. It's entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on September 06, 2014, 02:20:01 AM
I am watching the Walking Dead right now on Netflix. I watched it a year ago so this time I am just watching it to pass the time till the next season begins. Second time viewing is not as good, there is no suspense and the stuff that kept you in suspense the first time around now seems to drag things out. The story is still good the characters are still mostly likeable, and believable for the most part, the acting is pretty solid, but this show does not lend itself well to repeat viewings. Unlike Zombie movies where the pacing is just right, there are entire episodes that feel like filler and I can put up with that on a first run because I am wrapped up in the story but on a second run its like hurry up and get on with it already. Lost was the same way except the walking dead is still good Lost was only good if you tricked yourself into believing it was.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 06, 2014, 08:44:56 PM
An Idiot Abroad

It's Ricky Gervais sending Karl Pilkington around the globe. If you don't know these people, then it's a comedian sending someone who hates to travel around the globe. This show is unintentionally hilarious. Karl's commentary is brilliantly pessimistic, but somehow agreeable. And through his eyes, you see why people really love to travel but don't mention roughly half of their experience when recollecting it.

Watch it. It's on Netflix. My favorite episodes are when he comes home at the end of the season.

A while back, Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant, and Karl Pilkington got together and did these podcasts/recording sessions in 2005 and 2006 where they just talked about whatever came to mind or was happening lately. They later animated them and HBO aired them as The Ricky Gervais Show. It's just a lot of Karl with his weird thoughts and Ricky and Stephen berating him. When Gervais was promoting An Idiot Abroad, I watched it to see what he looked like in real life. I enjoyed the series but I thought the best part was the last episode when Ricky, Stephen and Karl all set in a room and went over his journey and talked about various things from it. It was like watching a real life episode of the podcast. So, if you liked that, you may want to check out The Ricky Gervais Show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 06, 2014, 08:47:45 PM
An Idiot Abroad

It's Ricky Gervais sending Karl Pilkington around the globe. If you don't know these people, then it's a comedian sending someone who hates to travel around the globe. This show is unintentionally hilarious. Karl's commentary is brilliantly pessimistic, but somehow agreeable. And through his eyes, you see why people really love to travel but don't mention roughly half of their experience when recollecting it.

Watch it. It's on Netflix. My favorite episodes are when he comes home at the end of the season.

A while back, Ricky Gervais, Stephen Merchant, and Karl Pilkington got together and did these podcasts/recording sessions in 2005 and 2006 where they just talked about whatever came to mind or was happening lately. They later animated them and HBO aired them as The Ricky Gervais Show. It's just a lot of Karl with his weird thoughts and Ricky and Stephen berating him. When Gervais was promoting An Idiot Abroad, I watched it to see what he looked like in real life. I enjoyed the series but I thought the best part was the last episode when Ricky, Stephen and Karl all set in a room and went over his journey and talked about various things from it. It was like watching a real life episode of the podcast. So, if you liked that, you may want to check out The Ricky Gervais Show.

I'm sure he was the main (only?) trumpeter of the Ricky Gervais show a few years back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 07, 2014, 12:49:29 AM
Beware the Batman has gotten much better.  I'd still rather have B:TBatB back, but I'm kinda sad knowing that BtB is already cancelled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 07, 2014, 07:35:55 PM
Good riddence. Trying to improve the show would have required more effort than worthwhile assuming they even had a big enough budget. Now it can make way for another, hopefully better Batman.

Robert Carlyle owns. He always has. I don't watch Once upon a Time with much attention and I dismissed it first season but I ended up watch a little more of it as time goes by because of Lana Parrilla as Regina. Didn't notice her back in Spin City, but damn she is smoking in this. She remains the hottest member of the cast even after the show threw in beauty after beauty. Don't watch it for the story, its soapy water at best of times. I watch it to see the actors try to deal with the absurdity of it all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 08, 2014, 12:55:32 AM
Good riddence. Trying to improve the show would have required more effort than worthwhile assuming they even had a big enough budget. Now it can make way for another, hopefully better Batman.

It's not perfect, but the first half really ended on a high note and I like where the second half is going.

Makes me wonder what Timm and Dini could have done if TAS had been serialized like this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 08, 2014, 09:40:25 AM
BtB has many problems. Being serialized wasn't the issue. TAS was semi serialized anyway. BtB had an incredibly unlikable jerkass Batman who wasn't scary. The computer animation was cheap and empty. Completely forgettable music. Who forgets TAS's opener and incidentals that enhanced a moment. Katana could have worked, but again Bruce was too much of an jerkass to let that character do he own thing. Also didn't help for the first season they decided to break Alfred's leg just to put him out of the picture after showing that he had the skills to hold his own, done so just to promote Batman.

They had Kurtwood Smith and completely wasted him. What a fucking crime right there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 08, 2014, 09:50:47 AM
I put Beware of the Batman and Brave and the Bold in the same place.  A large Skew from the normal Batman Mythos.  I have to say I vastly prefer Brave and the Bold.  Beware of the Batman could have worked as a show just not about Batman.  Replace the hero with a Nobody there making from scratch to add that dimension of his own backstory I think would have helped that series

Being frank Batman the Animated Series is very stiff competition for any show.  Especially if you take the legacy into account.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 08, 2014, 09:54:47 AM
Dude you can't put Brave and the bold on the same place as BTB. If you know anything about the Batman Mythos that you'd know that Brave and the Bold is a great homage to the Batman of the Silver Age with a few modern bits like Jamie Reyes being the Blue Beetle instead of Ted Kord. I'd put Brave and the Bold on the same level of Batman the animated series.

To be fair to BtB being a jerkass is almst essential to most takes on the batman character it seems.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 08, 2014, 10:02:21 AM
To me they are both non-mainstream Batmans.  They do it vastly different ways.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 08, 2014, 01:21:31 PM
I'd say brave and the bold was pretty mainstream in regards to Batman being less Batman and way more Batgod that's been popular these days.

Still watching Once Upon a Time, and its funny how they make everything interconnected by making all of the main cast somehow related soap style. Regina and belle are probably my favorite two of the female characters. The show suffers from the typical soap problem that the popular Villains get Vegta'd in that they become sort of neutered. Hook sort of just becomes a heartthrob as he's integrated into the heroes and walks the whole loveable ass that's only good because he loves Emma, Gold actually has taken the turn rather well since in he was never really a Villian in storybrooke. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2014, 02:19:38 PM
Here is a gif from the latest episode of The Strain:

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#gamingrelated
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 08, 2014, 02:46:53 PM
Any chance you can get a high res version? Trying to figure out what kind of motherboard that is, almost looks like an Xbox 360 devkit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 08, 2014, 04:54:22 PM
Man Once Upon of Time can't even keep track of its own cannon in the space of five minutes. Everyone in storybrooke with exception of Emma an Henry are sent back to the enchanted forest. The group is attacked by a Flying Monkey and despite all having lived on Earth for how many years and knowing that other dimensions and magical universes are fairy tales on earth. Despite this they don't know what Oz or a flying monkey it is until belle says she read about it in the book and it may be a wicked witch. Than they all start to fire commentary and Wizard of OZ references without previously knowing about the land.


Also if everyone in the enchanted forest are back in storybrooke in the earth timeline, than why doesn't Regina just make him a memory potion. His character is much better being a normal kid than the true believer.

Also Jennifer Morrison in a pencil skirt yum.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2014, 05:28:48 PM
Any chance you can get a high res version? Trying to figure out what kind of motherboard that is, almost looks like an Xbox 360 devkit.

I don't know about a higher res, but if you open the gif in a new tab, it's much larger (full screen).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 08, 2014, 06:31:23 PM
Once Upon of Time is written by the dudes who did LOST, so there's all the explanation you need right there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Manthony Chopkins on September 09, 2014, 12:27:37 AM
A few weeks ago I watched Gold Rush on the History channel. I basically watched a 19 year old kid dig up over 1,000 oz. of Gold. Which equated to about 1.4 million dollars. Good Lord! School is for suckers I tell ya...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 22, 2014, 12:51:33 AM
I finally finished Fringe. I liked it though I struggled to get through the middle of season two and most of season three. I remember hearing that the show gets much better in seasons four and five. It does. In fact, I liked season five most, even though it cheats (more on that later). Fringe is one of those shows that rewards fans who closely watch the show while practically punishing everyone else. Unfortunately, I missed some things and forgot others since it took months for me to get back to binging the series to completion.

Spoilers

Fringe's writers did a decent job of tying up most of the important plot lines and answering many of the more important questions, enough that the series could wrap up without feeling unfinished (unlike Lost). Still, there was perhaps too much mystery surrounding William Bell though this may have been fallout from Leonard Nimoy semi-retiring from acting and they just didn't want to use Nimoy unless absolutely necessary. He had an end game, it was foiled, but then he's back yet not really. It seemed like the writers were forced to switch gears a few times. Semi-related: Anna Torv's impersonation of Nimoy was brutal.

The flash forward episode in season four was neat and a good set-up for season five though I find the flash forward plot device to be cheap storytelling. It's either for shock value or because the writers wrote themselves into a corner, maybe both sometimes. Being limited to 13 episodes in that last season made it feel rushed. I didn't think they would kill Henrietta off so quickly. She was my favorite character of that season.

The ending was a little unclear to me though I'm trying not to overthink it (not sure I'm succeeding). If Walter's plan was to reset time by preventing the Observers from being made in the future (so they don't travel to the past and **** us up in 2015), wouldn't that mean Peter wouldn't exist in the main universe? He dies in the main universe and the only reason Walter steals the alternate universe's Peter is because September distracts Walternate right as he was supposed to discover the cure. Even if that still happens, Walter and Peter would have fell through the ice and Peter would have drowned in the lake after crossing over which is the catalyst for season four. In fact, Peter was so integral to everything that William Bell's plan to destroy the universe and create one where he's a god probably should have happened. If you ignore all that, you can accept the happy ending for what it is. And hey, at least Henrietta lives though she probably doesn't become a super badass like she does in the Observer altered timeline.

I'm currently contemplating my next show to binge. I watched the entirety of Game of Thrones last month in less than a week. I haven't decided to do a write up for that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 22, 2014, 05:05:37 AM
Person of Interest - it's surprisingly well balanced between episodic and mythology episodes, and unlike both Lost and Fringe it's narrative can be told from that of the central character at any time, so everything can make sense.

Plus the more people that realise POI is one of the best shows america has put out in recent years (and stupidly underrated) is a bonus.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 23, 2014, 12:29:10 AM
Gotham suffered from Pilot-itis, but has potential for future episodes.  Oy, wuts up with Aussie Alfred? Crikey!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2014, 01:35:15 AM
Well, from the beginning, Selena Kyle steals milk, goes to give to cats and container is almost empty.

Gordon and Bullock arrive at Pepper's House and tell the guy that they have a right to search the place. The guy bolts, jumps out the window, up the fire escape onto the roof, takes a few shots at Gordon. Gordon decides not to shoot back, down some stairs, through a kitchen, where the guy grabs a knife, and then he attempts to commit murder of Gordon using a kitchen knife....

After they found out that "Pepper" he was setup to be the fallguy, Gordon feels guilty

"We killed an innocent man"

umm... did you just forget what happened? go ahead and read what I just typed.... I'll wait....
that doesn't sound like an innocent man to me.

Hey, Penguin, you look like a penguin, penguin penguin penguin.
Don't call me that....
don't call you Penguin!? but that's your name penguin... PENGUIN!!!

Ok we get it, Cobblepot will be The Penguin. Just put a name tag on him already and shut the **** up about it.

Did they imply a lesbian releationship between Montoya and Barbara-soon-to-be-Gordon?

Joker tease and a Harley Quinn tease at Fish Mooney's?

Hi Ivy, that is your name right? Ivy? what kind of plants are those you watering over there Ivy?
are they poisonous? Are they poisonous Ivy? huh?

and the face came running scene... WTF were they thinking? how did that pass focus group testing?
That was so off putting and out of place. it was terrible.

But over all it wasn't terrible. It was interesting and has potential going forward.
Still not sure why they didn't just do Gotham Central, as I think that would have been even better, but whatever. I'll give this a go.

oh and the girl that plays Selina Kyle is Michelle Pfieffer reborn. It's weird to look at because of all the Pfieffer in her, but she is only 15. All that make up makes her look too old for how old she looks. She simultaneously looks late 20's and early teens at the same time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 23, 2014, 12:41:59 PM
Did they imply a lesbian releationship between Montoya and Barbara-soon-to-be-Gordon?

Pretty sure Montoya is a lesbian in the comics and has/had a relationship Batwoman, so that'd be neat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on September 23, 2014, 01:02:53 PM
They didn't just imply it. Montoya is a lesbein in the comics and her main plot lines include two face becoming obsessed with her and outing her, her relationship with Kate Kane, and being trained by Vic Sage and taking over the role of the question after he dies.

Its also to put a starin of their relationship and make Gordan seem like less of a dick once he starts cheating on her with Essex. (The Captain who stuck bullock with Gordan.). Which is funny because in the comics Essex looks more like the actress who plays Barbara while Barbra is more average looking and worn out.




Also the cobblepot stuff wasn't that hamefisted since he had the nick name penguin before Batman shoes up info gotham.

The reason why they couldn't do gotham central is because it would lean in our cast being for the most part incompetent, since even in GC Batman saves the day most of the time.

Also Gordan isn't apart of the GCPD during Gotham Central since he quits after The Joker kills his wife during no mans land.

But yes a show that has The GCPD, the mafia, and Batman as the main focus would be far more interesting, its why Arrow not really doing more with the mob disappointed me and why I'm looking forward to daredevil.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 23, 2014, 05:52:42 PM
Yeah i wasn't impressed. They need to tone down the IT'S A COMIC BOOK! feel to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
I haven't read GC, but I heard it was the GCPD as the main focus with Batman as a background character.

I think that would be pretty crazy to see Batman (some psycho vigilante in a bat suit) play out from the perspective of the police. Where some not so secretly support his take down of the crazies in the streets, but still having a job to do and tracking down a vigilante they actually kinda support.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 25, 2014, 05:26:09 AM
Yesterday would have been Phil Hartman's 66th birthday, which prompted me to figure out where all my physical media was and pull out his SNL Best Of DVD. Man, he was a just so damn good. One of the funniest people I've ever seen, a true legend. It pains me to think what kind of gems we've missed in the last 15 years because of his tragic death.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 25, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Agents of SHIELD Season2 Episode 1

Now why couldn't Season 1 have started off like this?

Dialogue wasn't cringe worthy, pacing was good, CG was actually pretty good, action was pretty decent, easter eggs/connections a plenty, a pretty good twist, a great villian (The Absorbing Man)and the only down point of the episode from where I'm sitting, was the shootout at the end.

not sure how they miss from that close, military trained and with automatic weapons with targets out in the open. but I'm willing to overlook that since everything else was on the level.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 26, 2014, 08:40:33 AM
AOS season 1 was pretty bad. In the beginning it felt like an advertisement for The Avengers movie with the number of time they talked about "New York". The villain was a waste of oxygen. Two of the cast had no chemistry and the characters of plywood. There were side characters more interesting them them that died.

But the show got saved by one man and it wasn't Nick Fury. Also they thankfully didn't go all LOST and Heroes on everybody by answering some fucking questions along with some nice action to close off the season with.

The new Season of Dr Who starting off with a pretty weak story, but the new Doctor is pretty damn good, much better than Matt Smith. He is rude without using expletives, has enough personality to out shine his companion which was a strange issue to have back with Matt with Karen being by far the more interesting and likeable. Clara is still a mixed bag so far by the writers forcing focus on her instead letting it shift more naturally back and forth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 26, 2014, 09:41:54 AM
I like the new Doctor a good bit.  His episodes are feeling more traditional Doctor Who.  I still think the First 2 should have probably been jettison out of an air lock.  The BBC specifically said that they didn't want to see Dalek and Cybermen episodes but, supposedly that episodes was just too good to not do.  I think we would have all been better off if it was not done.

You know what else those 2 episode have in common is that end with that lady.  I don't care or want to care what that plot is if the episodes we get without it are just that much better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2014, 12:51:44 PM
AOS season 1 was pretty bad. In the beginning it felt like an advertisement for The Avengers movie with the number of time they talked about "New York". The villain was a waste of oxygen. Two of the cast had no chemistry and the characters of plywood. There were side characters more interesting them them that died.

But the show got saved by one man and it wasn't Nick Fury. Also they thankfully didn't go all LOST and Heroes on everybody by answering some fucking questions along with some nice action to close off the season with.

I can't excuse teh terribleness of the 1st half of s1, but the Cap 2 tie in and onwards was good.
it was almost like a different show. There were a few decent episodes in the first half, but all the breaks and filler in every early episode really hurt the show.

Season 2 has started off good, and the preview for the next episode also looks good.

AoS, Arrow & The Flash could all be quality comicbook TV this season.

jury is still out on Gotham, and I wasn't impressed with the pilot of Constantine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 28, 2014, 10:15:43 AM
AOS season 2 has starting with a pretty good bang with good twists and turns. Skye has changed so much for the better that I didn't recognise her for the first quarter of the episode. Other characters have changed too, some with tragic consequences. It's not like a different show, it is a different show, a better show.

The first 2 episodes of new Who were meh, but the 3rd and 4th are real meaty.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 30, 2014, 12:40:34 AM
Gotham S1E2 was an improvement, although the villians were a bit cheesy. Bruce is crazy like he should be. Guy Ritchie Alfred needs to know his place though, RESPECT YOUH BETTAHS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 30, 2014, 01:34:28 AM
I enjoyed Gotham. It's still on probation, but I think I'm in for the 13(?) episode run if it continues on at this level.
I'm waiting for the Mayor to introduce us to his Nephew (sisters son) named Harvey who aspires to enter politics like his uncle.

edit: This season on Gotham. *mild spoilers ahead*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 30, 2014, 01:18:21 PM
I may be late, but that TMNT season finale was incredible.

And Last Week Tonight continues to be my favorite new show on television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on September 30, 2014, 06:17:21 PM
John Oliver and the rest of the people that work on that show are awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 30, 2014, 11:09:12 PM
TMNT was really excellent this year. 

The new Doctor Who I have watched all the episodes and I have to say, I love the new Doctor.  I grew to hate Matt Smith, as the Doctor.  He overacted and over delivered...and his story arcs became bigger and more convoluted as each of his seasons continued...to the point that the last episode was like a fan fiction. 

This new Doctor feels like classic Doctor Who and more like the Davies seasons, which many people complain, but I believer were far better seasons.  I can't wait for the eventual change in show runners though, because I am tired of Moffat's Who...and I want to see what someone else can do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2014, 11:15:46 PM
All things considered, Beware the Batman ended on a high note.  If the series had been this good (comparatively) to start with, it might have had a chance of lasting longer.  The introduction of Deathstroke was a nice touch - and they did a great job changing Anarchy from "not-the-Joker-but-still-the-Joker" to an Anti-Batman.

Curious what the next animated Batman will bring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 30, 2014, 11:20:23 PM
Quality, hopefully.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 30, 2014, 11:35:08 PM
Ouch
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 01, 2014, 06:24:50 PM
I may be late, but that TMNT season finale was incredible.

And Last Week Tonight continues to be my favorite new show on television.

See, I really like the Nick TMNT show, but the Season 2 finale is driving home my complaints that it's a "kid's show," so nothing serious or of consequence can happen. Just like in the Season 1 finale, Shredder and Splinter have a fight that is basically interrupted and neither of them actually gets hurt. Karai's surprise dunk results in maybe the WORST mutant in the whole series (snake-hands? seriously?) and everybody just retreats. Exactly like how Season 1 ended.

I came on board the Nick TMNT show loving it in spite of what it is (a kid's show) but now I'm starting to dislike it for that same reason. The Kraang plotline never actually moved forward, the Shredder plotline inched forward (Karai accepted that Splinter is her father, but THAT'S IT) and would somebody tell me where all the Season 1 mutants ended up? Plant dude and spider guy and Mutagen Man? They all just kinda got dropped.

I'm depressing myself by writing this.

"Last Week Tonight" is the best show on TV right now. It's like The Daily Show unplugged.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 01, 2014, 10:42:11 PM
I just finished The Walking Dead Season 4, all I gotta say is the writers of this show are going straight to hell.
3.5/5 stars, this was not the best season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 02, 2014, 09:16:06 AM
I enjoyed the second episode of Gotham much more than the first one They still make refrences and had another on the nose ridddler joke that only makes the show worse. The Cop, mob, and Penguin plotlines were actually all pretty and the only gripe I really have is the Dollmaker stuff because theirs no point in casting all of batman's rouges as Adults since batman is currently 10. Plus it loses the fact that Gotham is alive itself and how Masked or Flameboyant guys are the next step in escalation after batman beats the mob.


The second episode of Agents of shield watched like it should have been tied with last weeks as a two hour season premiere. It was more of a reaction to what happened last episodes but its better for it and getting rid of the guests have us time to focus on the new dynamics of the main cast. Skye looked like a mini may last episode so 'm glad they turned down her wit just a bit to feature in it. The Mac and Fitz storyline was probably my favorite even if it did end with a Dues Ex Machina machine to stop Crusher. Speaking of which i'm glad they decided not to kill but put him on ice for later. Talbot seems fine for a recurring nuisance, but so far he doesn't seem like a threat at all for someone who spent most of his carrier chasing the huk.   

Manhattan Love Story had everything to appeal to me being a rom com TV series but I probably won't follow it since it will get cancelled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 02, 2014, 04:09:20 PM
Gotham - if they stop signposting everything (and stop Mooney from chewing so hard on the scenery) the show will improve. I'm not too fond of some of the decisions and direction in the last episode, the argument between Gordon and his partner would have felt better if they didn't pull the camera back. It made it feel really small and insignificant.

Agents of Shield - I decided to jump back in after dropping out half way through Season 1. It has really improved, although the music is still really obvious and signposty.

Person of Interest - We are being watched. Never a truer word spoken in the context of this show. With the introduction of Samaritan the nature of the show has completely changed over the three previous seasons while the character dynamics have shifted along with them in response to it. The underlying tone of constant paranoia and ever-presence has pushed a little more to the front, and combined with the fantastic score and music choices. This ep really set about drawing parellels to Root and the belief of a higher power guiding their decisions, which in a show that's set entirely around artificial intelligence is very unique.

POI is a far better comic book IP (that isn't, but is basically a 2014 batman) than the two previous shows mentioned above it. I wonder if Khush caught up?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2014, 07:53:49 PM
Nope. Sorry to say I haven't even started. I thought about it getting into a couple times over the summer but I ended up just watching movies instead and, crazy enough, playing more games. However, the number of shows I currently watch has been dwindling. With Mad Men and Parks and Recreation wrapping up this year, there'll be even less I currently watch. Even though it is a shell of its former self, I'll probably still watch The Mentalist as this is most likely its last season and I'm not sure if I'll watch another season of Elementary or not. If I were to pass on those, then I'd probably dive all in on it and just catching up. It just feels like a large time sink right now so I have a hard time getting motivated to do it despite hearing so many good things about it. I also can't binge watch. I can do 3 episodes a night but that's it and I need a break. I don't get how people can watch entire seasons of a show in like 2 or 3 days.

Oh well. Keep the faith. If there is one TV show I'd want to jump into right now, it is Person of Interest so chances are it will happen in awhile.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 02, 2014, 11:07:38 PM
psssh. You need to step up your TV game dawg. Netflixing aka Marathoning is an endurance (couch/bed) sport, and it sounds like someone needs to whip your pansy ass into proper tummy table couch rooted shape.

huh... what do you mean this is the wrong threat and we aren't in the Funhouse? what the **** are you talking about!? anyway....

Person of Interest is Quality TV, and if you are interested in Quality TV and have less than 7 shows on your current roster, then you need to add some PoI to your life.

So what are you watching by the way? make a full and complete list. On and off season shows please.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2014, 11:17:41 PM
Yes, its a kids show…and no real consequences can happen.  Except that they do sometimes. 

April's Dad mutated for most of the season. 
Leatherhead lost in Dimension X and possibly dead.

Leo and Splinter are injured.

If people expected that any villain or hero would die in season 2 of the series you are crazy.  It's season 2!!!!  The most important villain and an iconic father figure character isn't going to die. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 07, 2014, 02:02:14 AM
psssh. You need to step up your TV game dawg. Netflixing aka Marathoning is an endurance (couch/bed) sport, and it sounds like someone needs to whip your pansy ass into proper tummy table couch rooted shape.

huh... what do you mean this is the wrong threat and we aren't in the Funhouse? what the **** are you talking about!? anyway....

Person of Interest is Quality TV, and if you are interested in Quality TV and have less than 7 shows on your current roster, then you need to add some PoI to your life.

So what are you watching by the way? make a full and complete list. On and off season shows please.

Priority shows:

Mad Men (Wrapping up his spring. So sad.)
Parks and Recreation (Wrapping up this year. So sad.)
Arrow (Entering what should be its prime. Get pumped!)
Survivor (It's 29th season and I still love. Last season was one of its best yet.)

Shows I'll watch but I'm up and down on:

Brooklyn Nine-Nine (Guess I'll check it out again. Had I not checked TV listings I'd have honestly forgotten this show existed. It can have some funny moments but it has yet to grab me like Parks and Recreation or The Office in its prime.)

The Mentalist (Should be it's last season also. It has become a shell of its former self. Part of me still hopes some effort is made to salvage the Red John story after the travesty of how it ended. Or that something is done to at least make things interesting. The charm of the two main characters, Jane and Lisbon, is the only thing carrying this show now. Yet, that charm is compelling enough for me to keep tuning in despite lowering expectations.)

Jeopardy (It is what it is. A daily quiz challenge to see what I know and what I don't.)

The Amazing Race (There are times where this can be a fantastic show in location, scenery, competition and drama and there are times where you realize you are just watching 16 people drink a cup of tea to get a clue leading them to a barren countryside to then unfurl a roll of hay for another clue. Sometimes compelling, sometimes dull.)

Tosh.0 (Sometimes spot-on hilarious, sometimes filth. It's how I prefer to view Youtube/web videos. Its a more adult version of America's Funniest Home Videos. [which has somehow yet to die] You don't know what you are going to get on any given episode but because of the times where the humour and subject matter blend so well, I keep watching for that next comedy high.)

On the bubble but I'll probably stick it out:

Elementary (The problem with this show is that it has shown it can actually be a really interesting take on Sherlock Holmes. Unfortunately, it insists on having most episodes revolve around an investigation of some sort. This can make for interesting television like the Mentalist where if you are paying attention, you can sometimes figure out the solution just before it revealed to you. Unfortunately, Elementary's investigations consist of you following along as the characters just reveal things to you and make the next deduction. The case is slowly being solved the whole time so there's no meta-game to play. Moreover, Season 2 saw the show really stretching with some of their case ideas and uses of technology. If the portrayal of Holmes, Watson and Moriarty wasn't so interesting, I'd probably dump this show and I still might as even that is losing my interest.)

Homeland (It has some interesting ideas and plots and solid acting but unfortunately, it has also gotten bogged down with many logic gaps and pointless developments and terrible character decisions/developments while losing all sustainability of the suspension of disbelief that I was ready to walk away from the show at the end of Season 3. However, it hit a sort of reset button then and the reviews of the current season's episodes are actually pretty positive so I'll probably check it out to see what it is doing.)

New Shows I Intend to Check Out

The Flash (It's the only show so far to share the same universe with Arrow, so I'll give it a shot in the hopes it can keep up with Arrow's momentum.)

Mulaney (I'd like to find a new comedy to watch. Parks is ending and Brooklyn Nine-Nine is still iffy for me. Please no Chuck Lorre suggestions as I said comedy. I've actually seen Mulaney perform a couple of short stand-up sets before and I like him and his brand of humour so that's why I'm willing to give this a shot. Plus, it has Martin Short as well and I've always liked his humour also even if it hasn't resulted in as much mainstream success as other comedians.)

Seasonal TV

America's Got Talent (I adore the Gong Show and this is its spiritual successor. It's not perfect and the Gong Show has the better hosts and judges but it shows enough incredible things to justify its existence and keep me watching.)

Sherlock (It's almost been a year since the last 3 episodes aired. I can't believe it after waiting like 2 and half for the answers to the previous cliffhanger. Another year and half to go for the next 3 I guess.)


Now that may not seem like much but that is because I'm more of a movie watcher. I've currently got a stack of 9 movies I took out from the library sitting by my TV. Tomorrow, I'll be going to see Gone Girl. (Finally! a movie worth watching has been released in theatres). Of those 9 movies, I just finished watching one called Gods and Generals. It was about the civil war and was 3-1/2 hours long. Since you want to know my viewing habits so much I'll let you know what the other titles are. Fruitvale Station, Charly, Leave Her to Heaven, The Hunt, Jeremiah Johnson, There's No Business Like Show Business, Monsieur Verdoux and The Big Parade.

I like movies because most movies are self-contained so even a 4 hour long epic is shorter than a season of Mad Men or Breaking Bad. While TV is now starting to catch up more in the art side of things, most movies have a greater art direction, better cinematography and greater budget to stand above most TV programs.

In the end though, and in this great example I've just made of burying the lead, I had just gotten a pizza yesterday and I didn't feel like starting a movie so I finally watched the first episode of Person of Interest instead. Didn't realize Jonathon Nolan was the producer. It was compelling enough that I watched the second and third episodes tonight so the PoI train is starting to leave the station. So, mission accomplished on your end I guess. I may post some early thoughts about it later if I want to take the time. I got a lot to watch and have Smash Bros. Fever as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 07, 2014, 03:21:55 AM
Extreme POI S1 spoilers: Soon as both Root and Elias appears, the pieces have started to fall into place and will rapidly get better from there. I wonder what blacknmild thinks is the point when it all "clicked" and rapidly improved?

Sidenote, having watched Arrow; it's been consistently good throughout but it's never had the rapid jump to incredible that POI (and even Fringe) did. I'm hoping S3 delivers that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 07, 2014, 10:04:48 AM
Gotham S1E3: Balloon Man


That's it father I shall become a balloon. The show seems to have found its footing really quickly and everything about the show is almost good. I still can't stand the fact that Gordan can afford a High Rise loft on  a cops salary, or that Barbra really is ony thier to tell him she trusts him while wearing as little as possible. Montoya seems more creepy than awesome to me right now which is a shame all things considered. Its funny because I enjoy lil' Catwoman and Batman moments which I was sure would have been terrible. So far its the Penguin, GCPD, and Mob connections which are pushing the show for me.




Star Wars Rebel S1E3: "Droids in Distress"


This episode went up early on Disney XD and for free on itunes. The Spark of Rebellion was quite the pilot, but this solidfys the show as being one of my absolute favorites this season. We get a cameo from a few old friends and the show uses the main objective to tell us a bit more about one of the charterers without resulting in Flashbacks and shows that even though the Ghost Crew is a family they all don't see eye to eye. Maybe the most refreshing thing to see was the fact that the team seems to e taking an OT approach to lightsaber use. They could have easily have K'naan pull out the lightsaber but incited it seems only a few of the 16 episodes will feature lightsaber combat. So far character wise this show really feels like a Wheadon joint and nalot of ways reminds me of Agents of Shield, at least the Coulson, skye, may dynamic is pretty close to K'naan, Ezra, and Hera.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 07, 2014, 12:55:29 PM
I just started a new comedy show on Netflix called The New Girl, its alright I can see myself watching this for at least one more season before it gets lame/I get bored and move on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 07, 2014, 04:16:21 PM
I've been watching The New Girl on and off since January. I find it completely unbelievable that Jess' weirdness would as frequently trump how incredibly attractive she is. I find it somewhat distracting that so many of the shows' plots rely on the average dude not being able to handle Jess' quirkiness. They try really hard to make it seem like a negative when I feel like many guys would just deal with it.

Anyway, I'm still in the first season. It took me over a year to finish Fringe and I enjoy The New Girl less. It'll be on my to-watch list for a while.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 07, 2014, 05:13:45 PM
So I was watching Wakfu in its French with Sub way that it was only on Netflix.  I went to watch it Sunday night, having watched it saturday, and bam no warning it had voice acting in Spanish and English as well.

I like the actor voices in French better so I may keep it on French.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 07, 2014, 06:48:58 PM
I haven't watched Mulaney, and at this point, based on everything I've seen, I don't really want to. It's a real shame that it seems to have turned out terribly, since John Mulaney's one of the best stand-ups out there right now and he's got a pretty fantastic cast around him. I've seen people who've seen more episodes say it gets better, but with the terrible ratings and even worse reaction to the pilot I doubt it'll get a chance to recover.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 07, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
Extreme POI S1 spoilers: Soon as both Root and Elias appears, the pieces have started to fall into place and will rapidly get better from there. I wonder what blacknmild thinks is the point when it all "clicked" and rapidly improved?

You would remember more than I would, but what you said sounds about the time that everything started to amp up a few steps into highly anticipating next weeks episode. I went along with S1, but it was sometime in S2 that you realize this show has come into it's own and was sort of a new age realistic "Batman". S3 was damn good television.

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Sidenote, having watched Arrow; it's been consistently good throughout but it's never had the rapid jump to incredible that POI (and even Fringe) did. I'm hoping S3 delivers that.

Arrow is awesomely bad yet highly entertaining comic grit & cheese TV.
PoI is on a completely different scale as it's a completely different type of show as far as I'm concerned.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2014, 12:33:22 AM
I do not watch a lot of TV.  And when I do, I will admit it is fluff TV, because I watch TV to disengage not to really engage anything.  That said, you can take my opinions for what they are worth...one man's opinion that uses TV shows differently than others.

1)  Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles:  I love this series.  To me this series is like the 90s cartoon with modern writing style.  The early 2000 cartoon series took the comedy out and went to far into being "cool."  It is a kids show but it never forgets its roots or fans...and that includes playing up the concepts of it being a kids show.  Yes, very few characters will actually die and main villains or heroes will not be killed.  But it still presents a world where loses have consequences and the battles are important.  Which is more than most cartoon shows.

2) The Legend of Korra:  Basically everything I said about TMNT applies here.  The world is fantastic, and the creators are really telling stories that appeal to teenagers learning about the world.  The villains are not simple and the world is not good vs. evil anymore.  I think this show has finally surpassed the original series.

3) Arrow:  These thoughts are only about season 2.  But I think it was one of the best written and action packed TV shows I have ever seen.  The stakes were high, and the story was fun and believable.  There were moments when I thought the writing would make the characters do or say something stupid or not behave in a realistic manner, but then they did.  Not every decision was believable or smart...but most were, and this made the show more powerful.  Arrow season 2 was the best live action Super Hero TV show I have seen period.  And that season alone has brought me to purchase The Flash.

4) Doctor Who:  I began watching Doctor Who at season 5.  I loved this season...but season 6 and 7 began to lose me.  Actually season 5 did as well.  I am sorry, if you are a robot believing you are human does not make you human, ever.  Seasons 6 and 7 just got some complicated and silly I wanted to give up.  But season 8 so far is much better, and feels more like the Davies seasons which were much better in my opinion. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 08, 2014, 01:29:17 AM
So Flash is fast. Vibe is annoying. Weather Wizard has a God complex. Zoom is faking paraplegic?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2014, 01:42:05 AM
Was the pilot the same as the version that leaked 2 or so months ago?
Do I need to watch the aired version?


edit: aired version has an extra 3 minutes of stuff added.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on October 08, 2014, 09:24:34 AM
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4) Doctor Who:  I began watching Doctor Who at season 5.  I loved this season...but season 6 and 7 began to lose me.  Actually season 5 did as well.  I am sorry, if you are a robot believing you are human does not make you human, ever.  Seasons 6 and 7 just got some complicated and silly I wanted to give up.  But season 8 so far is much better, and feels more like the Davies seasons which were much better in my opinion. 

This Season, minus the Dalek episode, feels more like Classical Doctor Who that I grew up with so, in general better.

We watched the most recent episode last night.  I enjoyed it but, its obvious the Doctor is prepping for a new companion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2014, 10:39:41 AM
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4) Doctor Who:  I began watching Doctor Who at season 5.  I loved this season...but season 6 and 7 began to lose me.  Actually season 5 did as well.  I am sorry, if you are a robot believing you are human does not make you human, ever.  Seasons 6 and 7 just got some complicated and silly I wanted to give up.  But season 8 so far is much better, and feels more like the Davies seasons which were much better in my opinion. 

This Season, minus the Dalek episode, feels more like Classical Doctor Who that I grew up with so, in general better.

We watched the most recent episode last night.  I enjoyed it but, its obvious the Doctor is prepping for a new companion.

Who this season has gone a whole lot smaller. Davies' seasons all got bigger in scope with each finale (the world, then the galaxy then all of time) so it's refreshing to pare this all the way back down to something smaller.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Halbred on October 08, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
The wife and I watched the first episode of Mulany. It is not good. It's trying VERY hard to be Seinfeld and failing spectacularly.

My wife loves Transparent (Amazon Prime) but it's not my kind of show. I'm totally down with the premise, it's just more drama than comedy despite having several established funny people on it.

Brooklyn Nine-Nine is so great. I mean, SO great. It's our favorite comedy right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 08, 2014, 03:56:09 PM
If you want to watch John Mulaney in something good his stand-up special New In Town is on Netflix, and it's spectacular.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 10, 2014, 03:31:16 AM
I just got around to watching AoS tonite, and then I read this review **SPOILERS**
http://badassdigest.com/2014/10/08/holy-****-agents-of-shield-got-good-in-season-two/

I figured all of you fence sitters, or those of you that dropped out last season due to the sporadic scheduling, to the poor writing and cohesiveness of the first half of the season, or whatever reason you may have had, may find a new interest in the 2nd season as it has improved upon the final 3rd of S1.

Quote from: spoiler free snippet
Agents of SHIELD has become darker in season two, but not oppressively so. Even still, they're going to need a more light hearted episode soon, maybe a team outing that goes wrong or something. But I like what they're doing, and they seem to be laying the groundwork for other exciting avenues of exploration. Season one's Girl in The Flower Dress has split off from Hydra and is doing her own thing for science - could she end up with AIM? Ward's story has lots of possibilities, especially when he inevitably escapes his prison at the mid-season break. Skye has been fixed in almost every conceivable way, and is now a character I enjoy watching. The show's diversity levels have increased nicely with the characters of Triplett and Mac joining the team.

Most of all the show has figured out how to structure their adventures. The three episodes so far have skipped the monster of the week/X-Files investigation format and instead gone for Mission: Impossible style ops and heists. They're going into hot situations and trying to make the best of it - and often failing. It's a better format, one that makes the show feel proactive, as opposed to the story of a bumbling group of doofuses who show up after the main action is over.

It's like Agents of SHIELD read every single complaint about the show and addressed them all. I actually quit the show last year, and now these first three have me sucked in for probably the whole season. Even if there are bad episodes (and I'm sure there will be - 22 episode seasons are too long) I'll know that the writers and producers have cracked the code of how to make this show work, and I'll have faith in them to pull it out. I never thought I'd declare loyalty to this show, but since they've fixed almost everything wrong with it - from the writing to the cinematography - I'm throwing my lot in with Coulson and his team.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 10, 2014, 06:13:33 PM
Episode 3 got a series low ratings wise - if this continues it's going to get cancelled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 10, 2014, 07:54:13 PM
Arrow is back and geez! Bye Bye Sara -at least until the Lazarus pit
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 10, 2014, 09:29:45 PM
I know it's only a local show but I want to plug the morning show I am working for, it's called The Good Life, it airs on KHGI NTV Nebraska Television. You can watch the show online, I started on cameras this week I also work as an Assistant Producer in the evenings. It's your typical morning show, local food, entertainment, quests, travel destinations, pets, doctors, and interviews. I have been having a lot of fun working on this show and I like it so much better than just the news. I also do Good Morning Nebraska the local show that runs adjacent to Good Morning America, its still a fun show too but its at 5Am so most people aren't even awake yet to see that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 14, 2014, 12:52:24 AM
Boardwalk Empire 5x06

The show was already kinda boring from the very start, but in the last few seasons it also became pointless. There were some cool characters and sometimes they fight and sometimes they die, but you don't find yourself caring that much.

The feeling of aimlessness got worse in the beginning of this season where they had like seven characters living their own lives in seven different places completely independently from each other.

The only good thing the show had going for it was cool visuals and deliberate contrast of old timey values with modern times (not as harsh as in Rome though where characters might as well be aliens because of extreme values dissonance).

The last episode salvaged a lot of swamp feeling of the last seasons. They closed a few characters' arcs and showed one of the key moment of entire series: the moment where Nucky gives up 13 year old Gillian to Commodore, which starts his criminal carrier and how this still haunts him.

Even if they offed one of my favourite characters in show, i am content with they way Van Alden and Omar Little went out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 14, 2014, 08:47:01 PM
I was really hoping Episode 1 of The Walking Dead Season 5 would get me back interested in the show but it had the opposite effect. I am thinking this show is so far gone there is not much chance of it coming back its going to be a repeat of last season and I think its just losing my interest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 14, 2014, 08:48:52 PM
You are a weirdo, that's basically the exact opposite of what every other person said about the show (though most people don't need anything to get them interested in the show "again" because it's a great show and it maintains their interest). Highest ratings for the show ever, doubled Sunday Night Football.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 14, 2014, 09:15:29 PM
I like the show, its entertaining its well written but damn it its too fucking predictable now I can't stand that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 19, 2014, 05:08:50 PM
Black Dynamite S02E01

LOL. Roots (the movie) during Black History Month leads to White Slavery. what could go wrong?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 19, 2014, 07:43:44 PM
I tried to watch Arrow Season 3 premiere but I was so bored, I wanted to skip through half the episode...and then half way through stopped watching.  That episode was bad.  It felt like it was all catch up and perhaps some world building but it was boring. 


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2014, 03:35:05 AM
Is anybody watching Agents of SHIELD this season?

Believe me when I say that Season 2 is everything you wanted out of Season 1 but they failed to even approach up until near the end (Post-TWS)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0gctfVIYAA4XeI.jpg:large)

This season has been on a role, moving things along at a brisk pace and putting it's other (internet rivaled) comic shows on notice.

and I'm not too in-depth with comic knowledge, but reddit has an interesting theory as to who Skye's father is. Mr. Hide - A medical research doctor who transforms (like Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde) when angry and gains super strength.
http://www.reddit.com/r/shield/comments/2jyat5/spoiler_tonights_episode_has_be_convinced_of/

oh, and first trailer for Age of Ultron airs sometime during next weeks episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 22, 2014, 04:59:13 AM
Agents of SHIELD has significantly improved. Everything has just been fixed properly.

Also, Person of Interest. That hotel scene with Martine and Root? All serious kinds of badassery going on. And the single most powerful line of the episode; "You don't trust the god you made?"

I have never heard a TV show, before today, use the line "she's in god mode" and ACTUALLY mean it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on October 22, 2014, 05:11:38 AM
Find it weird that next week will probably get a decent bump due to the avengers trailer and they're going to follow it up with the pulp to pop special.

Best episoide of the series so far, and I can see Mockingbird getting a spin off show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 22, 2014, 05:27:17 AM
The second episode of the Arrow was much better.  The drama felt good...and putting the emotional stuff inside the investigation part of the show makes it faster and better paced. 

Third episode of The Flash is good.  I like that the show feels different, but it is obviously following the same style as The Arrow.  I hope for a Buffy stule cross over event during the sweeps.   
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 22, 2014, 11:49:26 AM
The second episode of the Arrow was much better.  The drama felt good...and putting the emotional stuff inside the investigation part of the show makes it faster and better paced. 

Third episode of The Flash is good.  I like that the show feels different, but it is obviously following the same style as The Arrow.  I hope for a Buffy stule cross over event during the sweeps.   

I think there's a big crossover happening on next weeks episodes of The Flash and Arrow.


edit: Not sure if this is the "Big" crossover event... doesn't sound like it, maybe that was for episode 9...
But it's still a crossover :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 28, 2014, 10:32:13 PM
Person of Interest Check-In.

So, I'm now up to Season 3 episode 4. Yay me. And now some quick thoughts.

Do I like the show? Yes. I would recommend it to others as well.

I do like how it has a bit of a minority report to it. Like pre-crime. Investigating and trying to figure out what will happen before it happens. That's a nice twist from the usual crime mystery set-up on T.V. Of course, some mysteries/episodes are better than others but that will happen with most broadcast shows.

Is it what I thought it would be? Yes and no. Yes, in that I always took the concept of the show to be a criminal/ex-con who is told to investigate people and save them from the information given through a system designed by a computer genius. As fellow watchers know, that isn't too far from the episode by episode premise with just a couple incorrect points there. The idea that they don't know if a person will be a victim or the villain is an interesting set-up that sadly doesn't get used to often. It is usually more on the saving side. Plus, there's a whole other arcing story and various forces at play that is going on beyond the episodic missions that I didn't expect.

That said, there are certain things that bug me. Maybe it comes from watching a lot of this stuff in a shorter span of time then when it airs but here are my current thoughts:

It bugged me that in the early episodes there often seemed to be a death involved despite the fact they are doing this work to save lives. Save a life and lose a life. What? Of course, I later get that it is only pre-meditated murder crimes that they are out to stop or that the machine can track. However, even then, some of the missions start because of the death of someone else and that death seems as though it should have fallen under the pre-meditated murder side of things. I guess the machine only figures out some of the plots after it has gone into motion from someone else's death?

Does Reese's quiet low talking slow-paced speaking voice ever get to you? Sometimes it's like he's doing a bad Clint Eastwood imitation. Everyone else speaks normally and so I wish that Reese would too.

Of course, I could tell as the first episode began that it was going to introduce many questions and mysteries about the past of the two main characters but I did not think they would drag it out so long. The first season we basically see what happened in Reese's past to lead him to his meet-up with Harold and partial glimpses of Harold's past in building the machine and season 2 finally gives us the rest of the secret origin of Harold. I'm not sure if season 3 has much more of the past backstories to provide now but they've got Shaw and Root now so I suppose they could do some with them or Fusco and Carter. It also bugged me how in one episode in Season 1, Harold is drugged and tells John to ask him anything and he will tell him but he doesn't. However, he'll just keep on trying to spy on Harold and figure him out that way because it's more... chivalrous, honorable? To me, it was one of those TV moments of stretching out a plot.

Elias. Where to begin? I like the actor who portrays him because of his work in another series and he gets your interest everytime he's on screen. However, I hate the way they finally introduce him. He's a growing threat from the second episode on yet his first onscreen appearance has always undercut him to me. Here's a guy that's supposedly feared by the mobs and Russians and could control the underworld. He's supposed to be extremely smart, cunning and dangerous. Yet, in his first appearance, he is nearly killed by the Russian mafia. The Russians kill one of his men and he knows they are after him, yet he goes and hangs out in his apartment with plenty of time passing between the shooting of his partner to the Russians coming to his building including time for the machine to give Finch his number and Reese to start spying on him. Then when Reese goes to save him, he gets shot and is bleeding away. Reese fixes him up and saves him thereby creating this bond and antagonistic relationship between him and Finch/Reese. I just don't see how if Elias is supposed to be such a great threat, he allowed himself to be in that situation in the first place. Couple this with him later getting arrested and then nearly dying in prison only to be saved by Carter who he clearly wasn't expecting or counting on just keeps me from ever seeing the guy as a credible threat. I'd like to. There are times where he does seem to have some power or can make a play on the heroes but he just is to inconsistent to me between powerful and weak. It's a love/hate thing I got going on there.

HR. I'm sick of this plot point. I thought it was over at the end of Season 1 but then it kept going a bit into season 2 and then it further kept going with the few left trying to resurrect it. It's still going into season 3. Part of me was hoping that by having a second operative in Shaw, maybe now Reese could take some time to tear down and destroy that organization but instead it is two people working together on the weekly cases.

For that matter, why are they still letting it exist? Reese wanted Fusco to stay undercover in it but there has been very little plot or development with that to make it seem like there is much benefit to it. For that matter, I don't know why HR cares about Fusco or want to use him. It always seems like there is a new member popping up so that there numbers are never that low and there has only been one time where Fusco has ever seemed to be of use to HR in an episode where he got his name and Simmons ripped out of an accounting book listing various HR members. Other than that, when has he ever actually been seen helping out or doing something successful for them? I'm surprised they haven't dropped him a long time ago. Why are Reese and Finch being such dicks about HR? They have the means to easily expose and take down the organization. It's been a problem throughout the entire run of the show with them constantly fighting elements of it. It's caused problems for both Fusco and Carter with Carter now being demoted to patrolwoman (like Officer Lance from Arrow). When Fusco and Carter need help because of HR, they're always are too busy with the current case but they still want Fusco and Carter to drop everything and help them. What jerks.

Anyways, that is the big complaints. I'll probably be posting more stuff in the days ahead as I keep catching up but here's a starting point as I keep processing this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2014, 12:20:28 AM
S3 is the best season yet.

I will say nothing more on it.
S4 is pretty good so far too. Keep watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on October 29, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
I stopped watching New Girl middle of Season 3, just lost steam and now the show feels like it is dragging on its not even funny anymore, its not even fun anymore.

I also watched newest episodes of The Walking Dead and Gotham. Gotham is kicking ass I can't wait for each new episode. I am glad I work for a Fox affiliate station for once, I hate how our news is tainted by that other network that uses Fox in the name.

I am still losing interest in The Walking Dead, I can't explain it I just think the show has lost its soul and I just think maybe its more me than the show but I am not liking how dark its become. It's making the first two seasons look like Sesame Street.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 29, 2014, 07:32:30 AM
Finished "Over the garden wall":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMduxeCSMaI

Great mini-series. Very Ghibli-ish.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 29, 2014, 04:15:07 PM
S3 is the best season yet.

I will say nothing more on it.
S4 is pretty good so far too. Keep watching.

Agreed. You're at the point when the teatable gets upended repeatedly for a string of episodes. Season 3 as a whole was fantastic.

And i agree with BNM, i won't be spoiling anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 31, 2014, 07:37:53 PM
I finished American Horror Story: Asylum. That was a mess. The plot felt like it ended several episodes before the finale. Also, it seemed like the writers didn't know what they wanted the season to be about so it was just a mishmash of horror tropes that mostly didn't work together. I feel like I'm trying to convince myself that I like the show more than I actually do. I kept watching because I got too far in and I just wanted to know what happens. Jessica Lange repeatedly kills it though her performance in Asylum was decidedly worse than in Murder House. I blame the writing more than her.

I also recently finished The Walking Dead Season Four. It's another show that I feel like I'm trying to convince myself I like more than I actually do. Similar to Seasons Two and Three, the first half of the season is generally pretty terrible before picking up in the middle. It sure was nice of the writers to give Beth something to do because it seemed like she was only alive because someone has to take care of Judith. Besides the abundance of Coral Grimes and his terrible acting as well as recurring logistical quibbles, I found the second half of the season to be great. However, unlike say Game of Thrones that could use an extra episode or two to expand on certain things, The Walking Dead feels bloated and could stand to have fewer episodes to tighten the pacing.

I also don't really like how inconsistent the zombie threat is. Sometimes they're merely a mild inconvenience. "Ugh, I stepped in a puddle this morning AND I was surrounded by walkers. Can this day get any worse?!" Other times, being flanked by walkers supposed to be the absolute worst situation to be in. Zombies can't think yet they'll inexplicably follow the characters just so there's a tension. First, no zombies to be seen at all anywhere. Then, suddenly, zombies everywhere. I understand the need for conflict, but that isn't good writing. And how do the zombies sneak up on anyone ever? They're loud and they shamble about. Yet this keeps happening. For rotting flesh, they really shouldn't be that strong either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 31, 2014, 11:47:21 PM
I've started watching Arrow on BluRay. I'm about halfway through the first season and...yeah, it's really good, though I wish the show didn't keep concocting reasons to use Batman villains (and then not use them very well. *cough* Count Vertigo *cough*).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 01, 2014, 12:03:44 AM
The Flash - This show has been on a roll upping the quality after each episode. Felicity sort of showed how lame of a love interest Iris is for Barry, and I wasn't fan of Cold killing people but what ev's. Just like they got the dad drama out the way its good to see the friction of how to stop the flash was dealt with early on instead of making it a season wide plot line. The train scene was pretty awesome and I loved Barry holding that L to Cold.


Arrow - This was a good episode Roy Flip aside. Honestly I don;t really know what to say about this show other than I find the Hong Kong Flashbacks to be really boring.


Agents of Shield - My favorite show and the most improved show this season. This episoide was really great and Mockingbird could easily hold her own show. The Ward plotline was really well done and giving him a heel turn was the best thing for him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on November 01, 2014, 02:33:18 AM
I've started watching Arrow on BluRay. I'm about halfway through the first season and...yeah, it's really good, though I wish the show didn't keep concocting reasons to use Batman villains (and then not use them very well. *cough* Count Vertigo *cough*).

Errr... No.  Vertigo was originally a Black Canary/Green Arrow villain.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 01, 2014, 09:02:15 AM
The Hong Kong flash backs are boring now, because there is no focal point to them.  The first season was about HOW he learned to be the Arrow.  The second season was about his relationship with Deathstroke…very important for season 2. 

They are kinda trying to show Amanda Waller as a big evil…and show that history.  This will probably be used for 2 seasons building it up.  This season is all League of Assassins/The Dark Arrow/ and The Demon. 

Next season will definitely be A.G.N.U.S  (I think that is the spelling.) 

And I can see season 5 being Young Justice and more super human villains.  They are definitely building Arrow to be a Batman like character.  Not as smart though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 01, 2014, 02:41:46 PM
It looks like they also reused the set where Barry Allen appeared for the first time and was investigating the stolen containers for Q Consolidated.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 01, 2014, 07:18:38 PM

So I finally have a way to watch more current shows than what is on Netflix/Amazon so I have been cranking out on a lot of current shows.

Finished Season 2 of Arrow and plan to start S3 soon. I liked the build up to the season climax and the action but there was just too much dialogue and unnecessary drama. I liked the first half better than the second half of the season. A little worried about S3 from the comments I have been reading but I will stick with it for now.


Watched the first episode of Agents of Shield. I like the potential but it seemed to drag a lot. I know S1 is a bit of a drag but I plan to knuckle through it all for the later pay-off. (BnM- I'd like to see that watch list you mentioned, might do that with my wife and watch it all on my own).

Plan to get watching Flash and Gotham soon as well. My wife is completely getting into the super hero shows thanks to Arrow and the Marvel/Avengers films so I might be getting through it all more slowly as we have to watch them together. I might pick out one to watch on my own and then re-watch later (thinking Gotham solo and watch Flash together since it is closely tied to Arrow).

I am enjoying S5 of Walking Dead, but I feel there is a bit too much exposition (felt the same about the second half of S4). Maybe it is just me, but I'm growing tired of exposition in TV shows. I understand it in a pilot or season opener to a point but we are getting a bit too much for my likings in a lot of shows these days. Why does everything have to make a "deep" statement on life? Just let a show be a fun ride. I have a theory that Darryl will be forced to choose between Beth and Carol and Carol will sacrifice herself so that Darryl won't be forced to choose.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2014, 08:34:58 PM

So I finally have a way to watch more current shows than what is on Netflix/Amazon so I have been cranking out on a lot of current shows.

finally got up on BT?

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Finished Season 2 of Arrow and plan to start S3 soon. I liked the build up to the season climax and the action but there was just too much dialogue and unnecessary drama. I liked the first half better than the second half of the season. A little worried about S3 from the comments I have been reading but I will stick with it for now.

Arrow S2 starts strong, and then loses it towards the finale. The last 2-3 eps of S2 were low points of the season, and that sux, becuase it's the season finale.

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Watched the first episode of Agents of Shield. I like the potential but it seemed to drag a lot. I know S1 is a bit of a drag but I plan to knuckle through it all for the later pay-off. (BnM- I'd like to see that watch list you mentioned, might do that with my wife and watch it all on my own).
I will dig that up for you and post it here.


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Plan to get watching Flash and Gotham soon as well. My wife is completely getting into the super hero shows thanks to Arrow and the Marvel/Avengers films so I might be getting through it all more slowly as we have to watch them together. I might pick out one to watch on my own and then re-watch later (thinking Gotham solo and watch Flash together since it is closely tied to Arrow).

Yes, watch Gotham on your own, and The Flash same time as S3 of Arrow with your wife.
They are having a big cross over soon, and have already had a very minor one this past week.

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I am enjoying S5 of Walking Dead, but I feel there is a bit too much exposition (felt the same about the second half of S4). Maybe it is just me, but I'm growing tired of exposition in TV shows. I understand it in a pilot or season opener to a point but we are getting a bit too much for my likings in a lot of shows these days. Why does everything have to make a "deep" statement on life? Just let a show be a fun ride. I have a theory that Darryl will be forced to choose between Beth and Carol and Carol will sacrifice herself so that Darryl won't be forced to choose.[/font]

I only continue to watch TWD because I feel invested in a payoff at this point. It's not terrible, but it's not all that good either. It's low on my excitement meter, but that's only because I have so many better/more exciting shows to watch before it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 01, 2014, 08:42:35 PM
When I get my wife through the Dark Knight Trilogy I might take her through Gotham so she could better appreciate the Batman lore but judging from people's reviews I won't have a problem re-watching it with her at a later date.


Flash and Arrow sound like they will be a good hand-in-hand viewing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2014, 09:04:29 PM
here is a list from io9
http://io9.com/which-episodes-you-must-watch-to-catch-up-on-agents-of-1572676925
(minor spoilers in episode descriptions)

To avoid spoilers:
Episodes 1, 6, 10-11, 13-end.
TWS tie in happens at episode 16, so make sure she watches TWS just before it.

I believe some would throw in ep 4 and possibly even ep 12.
so a complete list would be Episodes: 1, 4, 6, 10-22 (while watching TWS before ep 16).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 01, 2014, 09:15:16 PM
Wow, that is a lot of gaps in the early part of the season. Glad that the show has found it's footing and I'm excited to delve into it further.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on November 02, 2014, 12:36:44 AM
I am loving Gotham but it takes too long to get to the next episode so if it ties into Arrow and Flash I might just get into those to shows to hold me over waiting for the next Gotham,

a page or so back I mentioned losing interest in TWD and I was called a weirdo glad to know I am not entirely alone in that sentiment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2014, 02:47:14 AM
Gotham had no ties to the Arrowverse (Arrow and The Flash). Completely standalone.

Tonite episode of Gotham was another good one.
Penguin and Fish Mooney are just enjoying their roles far too much, and I'm enjoying the show more and more because of it.

Penguin is bringing it though. "Honk Honk"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on November 04, 2014, 08:13:31 AM
I see, still I did check out Arrow and Flash. I could get into Flash more than Arrow, I read his comics and I liked the show from the 90's. I only watched the pilots of each and I can see right off how those two are connected. Penguin was always my favorite villain growing up, until Batman Returns ruined the character for a while. I am loving how he is owning this show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 08, 2014, 09:49:00 AM
I got caught up with all of rebels and bought the season pass. This show is way better than Clone Wars so far and honestly should be a hour long compared to being half an hour. My favorite two episodes so far have been the last two the first one bringing in the Inquisitor and the second one at the imperial academy



Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 09, 2014, 10:57:17 PM
BnM:  I think I have to disagree with you about the Arrow season finale and the final episodes.  I like what they did with the series, and the only mistep was the silly twist with his Queen Consolidated CO-CEO.  I thought that was unnecessary. 

But I like how he tricks and beats Slade.  I thought the story worked.  There was obviously some things that didn't need to be there, because it was setting up season 3...but you must have that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2014, 12:41:24 AM
But all the Mirakuru soldiers and Slade were nerfed by the end.
the drone attack....
Slade's real motivation :/
and even more I can't remember off the top of my head just really dipped the enthusiasm in the final 3 eps. Doesn't help that S3 didn't start like it was on fire like S2 did. Still waiting for it to pick up the intensity to previous seasons levels. Seems like The Flash has all the momentum right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 10, 2014, 12:50:08 AM
Yes.  But you could explain that by the idea that it wasn't a perfect Mirakuru blend...and as always that is how it always happens in every Super Hero story. 

Season Threes opening was possibly the worst episode of television I had ever seen.  It was like opening with a resolution.  However, Episode 2 picked up the feel of the show and started being great again. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2014, 01:17:38 AM
I think only good things so far in S3 have been Nyssa, Thea and Felicity's mom.
honorable mention to Malcolm Merlyn too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 10, 2014, 02:56:38 AM
I think only good things so far in S3 have been Nyssa, Thea and Felicity's mom.
honorable mention to Malcolm Merlyn too.

Nyssa is always great. I think the issue, for me, is compared to say POI there is a narrow set of storylines going whereas POI had multiple bubbling along and then picked one to blow up resulting in that insane HR arc.

That said, i'm stunned that Emily Bett Rickards (Felicity) is 23. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but... she doesn't look old but she looks real mature for her age too. Thea is the same age but doesn't give that look off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 10, 2014, 09:40:36 AM
Thea looks like a teenager.  Felicity doesn't but they want to always put her in some dress.  You rarely see her wear pants and frankly her particular role pants would be the norm.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 10, 2014, 06:20:47 PM
Felicity is a woman who would catch my eye. Perfect blend of class and nerd. Thea in a "sexy" outfit turns me off. She pulls off the whiny kid sister role really well because I have never found her attractive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 10, 2014, 06:37:24 PM
I got caught up with all of rebels and bought the season pass. This show is way better than Clone Wars so far and honestly should be a hour long compared to being half an hour. My favorite two episodes so far have been the last two the first one bringing in the Inquisitor and the second one at the imperial academy


I am quite surprised with how good Rebels is as well.  There are definitely some things they need to change going into season 2, to make it more focused and mature.  However, the are actually slight changes.  I disagree with wanting it to be an hour long.  Shorter episodes allow the writers to tell the story quickly without some of the needed fluff to fill out an hour long.  As well, I think pacing could suffer because the character develop for a children's cartoon would have to become more of the focus for an hour long instead of the action in the story. 

That said, look at the new TMNT series and Korra to see how you can tell a slower nuanced story over a larger season of half hour episodes.  I am always impressed by what you can accomplish in a short focused episode.  I kinda wish more series would try the 30 minute continued story model, including live action dramas...that sometimes fill their seasons with filler episodes just to get to that magic 24 episode count.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 10, 2014, 06:41:36 PM
Felicity is a woman who would catch my eye. Perfect blend of class and nerd. Thea in a "sexy" outfit turns me off. She pulls off the whiny kid sister role really well because I have never found her attractive.

The only thing I can't buy is how Felicity isn't taken by anyone.  She is by far the most attractive woman on that show.  Incredibly intelligent and is one of the few characters written with a personality people would want to hang out with, and with a heart.  She is the most identifiable character.  Sarah and  Laurel Lance aren't that attractive to me, both personality wise or appearance.  They don't even really fit the idea of "bad girl" attractive.  I basically have to assume that Oliver just has extremely poor taste in women.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 10, 2014, 07:31:01 PM
That is actually an issue I have with the show as well. I chalk it up to his old way of life taking hold from time to time. But it is a bit off when the actor has banged virtually every available "attractive" woman on the show. Makes the show less like a superhero show and more like a soap opera/drama. I blame CW for that offense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 10, 2014, 07:52:24 PM
That is actually an issue I have with the show as well. I chalk it up to his old way of life taking hold from time to time. But it is a bit off when the actor has banged virtually every available "attractive" woman on the show. Makes the show less like a superhero show and more like a soap opera/drama. I blame CW for that offense.


But a superhero show is a soap Opera/Drama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 10, 2014, 08:50:36 PM
I would rather there be more action and less relationship drama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 10, 2014, 08:53:46 PM
Felicity is a woman who would catch my eye. Perfect blend of class and nerd. Thea in a "sexy" outfit turns me off. She pulls off the whiny kid sister role really well because I have never found her attractive.

The only thing I can't buy is how Felicity isn't taken by anyone.  She is by far the most attractive woman on that show.  Incredibly intelligent and is one of the few characters written with a personality people would want to hang out with, and with a heart.  She is the most identifiable character.  Sarah and  Laurel Lance aren't that attractive to me, both personality wise or appearance.  They don't even really fit the idea of "bad girl" attractive.  I basically have to assume that Oliver just has extremely poor taste in women.

Umm... Nyssa Al Ghul (Katrina Law) is above Felicity
(http://i.imgur.com/pciMbqq.jpg)

Thea Queen (Willa Holland )w/ her new haircut is above Felicity...
(http://abload.de/img/animation37ssw0.gif)
but just barely (that lip bump/mole is distracting though - Momma Queen also had it)

Even Shado was hotter than Felicity
(http://i.imgur.com/t8LnLsG.jpg)

Huntress - She is hotter than Felicity too. I didn't really like her character much, but if I had to choose on looks alone... sorry Felicity.
(http://i.imgur.com/bvmoA4d.jpg)

Felicity is only hot (as a blonde) with her hair up, and usually with glasses. "Goth"icity was pretty hot with the hair down and no glasses though, but that might just be my slight bias against blondes....
The boob window dresses certainly don't hurt though.

Laurel used to be hotter, but not as Laurel, funny enough as the blonde Ruby on Supernatural. Go Figure. She was pretty s1 of Arrow, but her face took a transformation in s2 and it still looks a little different. I would repost the images I made (edit: found them (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29156.msg821572#msg821572)), but they are kinda mean spirited, even if kinda funny at the time.

Sarah "pucker up" Canary... yeah, no. She probably only got points because she was a badass chick. could probably take the pain *wink wink*, flexible, athletic, no emotional connections, business first play later, and could handle her own... and you too.

Isabel Rochev (Summer Glau)... I find the actress pretty, but she is like the kiss of death on every show she is on. Maybe that is why Arrow is at a low point right now. Still shaking off that Glau effect.
That Ravager costume she had puts her below Sarah though.



I would rather there be more action and less relationship drama.

But this is The CW buddy. There is a pretty people and relationship drama quotient that needs to be reached in each and every show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 11, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
I find Felicity attractive enough except she's not really a Dress girl.  If they let her dress more naturally some I find her more attactive.  Thea is sort of mixed.  Like the above picture is good but then her injured freckled look I'll pass on.

Laura... no that Chin kills it.
Not into Huntress and Sarah had her moments but just felt to butch for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 11, 2014, 03:18:37 PM
Speaking of Felicity, does anyone think that she might have been doing some weights on the quiet?  Her arms seem very solid lately.  I wonder if they have any plans for her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2014, 02:09:24 PM
[Arrow]
I know Arrow is currently my #4 comic show, trailing all newcomers (excerpt Constantine... because I have yet to watch any of it outside the leaked 1st ep.), but they have finally done it.

They have finally figured out how to use the one trick arrow we've all been waiting to see.

The Boxing Glove Arrow
(http://fat.gfycat.com/HeftyEveryEarthworm.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 13, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
Sort of curious how many takes that took.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 13, 2014, 09:31:08 PM
Physics be damned :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 14, 2014, 09:42:46 AM
Physics be damned :)
Yeah!

What are we talking about?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 15, 2014, 12:40:01 AM
Curious to see how an arrow would fly with a full size boxing glove mounted on the end of it :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 15, 2014, 09:13:14 AM
That's a short distance and with the raw force they have the Arrow Arrow's go it could do that.  I wouldn't expect to do much further than that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 18, 2014, 01:26:06 AM
[Black Dynamite] It's not a Cosby Show

H: - "Claire, Claire, muthafucker I'm calling you."

C: - "I'm coming sucka, i was baking some cookies for yo raggedy ass."

H: ::slaps cookie tray out of Claire's hands::
"Bitch you know I don't want no Duncan Hines. I want some of that nookie cookie from the front door of your behind."


Best line of the most recent episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 18, 2014, 04:18:05 PM
Just been watching Castle. 

I think it should have ended at season 6, but since they insisted on going into seven I have to say the theme episodes are really good.  This latest Western theme was great.  See how long they can maintain it though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2014, 03:41:51 AM
[Agents of SHIELD]

Damn this show has found it's stride and not looking back. So much is happening, and it's all happening so quickly, Complete 180 from last season. It's dark, twisted, graphic fast paced, exciting, interesting, and fukn crazy (with a dash of sex thrown in for good measure). It's almost in human what they got going on right now.

show is on break next week, so you have time to catch up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 19, 2014, 04:01:44 AM
AOS is definitely improving. It just needs to find a style of it's own that sets it apart from all the other Marvel entities. It feels a bit too plain visually.

Especially when you compare it to Alias.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 19, 2014, 04:59:19 PM
Maybe I'm just being unreasonable but:

The Flash:  Oh my goodness. That episode was terrible.

While Arrow has it's silliness, there are just parts of this that are just ridiculous beyond all comprehension. The whole point of the flash is that he is fast, so why the hell does he insist on taking punches?? He should be untouchable!! He should see every single blow and projectile in super slow motion. Why not just get the hell out of the way?

So this week he fights DC's version of Colossus. Pretty cool idea. So why try to strong arm the super strong metal guy? Why did he insist on holding onto the flagpole??? He is being smeared all over the walls and he refuses to let go of the flagpole to make it stop?

So the solution? Flash uses a supersonic punch which would apparently overpower the steel guy. That sounds awesome. Something new, breaking new ground. Let's see what they do about this. Takes his run up, flies through the air and lands the blow. Nice effect. Looked pretty good. Fake Colossus is grounded and dazed for a few seconds, but gets back up to roflstomp Barry with not even a mark on his face from where a blow moving at supersonic speeds landed mere seconds before. AND IRIS KNOCKS HIM OUT WITH A SINGLE PUNCH TO THE CHIN!!!! WHAT THE HELL???

Did no one watch this after editing to see how stupid it looks? This should have been a fantastic showpiece. First supersonic punch. It should have had a real impact. Been memorable. I was laughing and crying at the same time. I really hope the writers get their act together and realize that the protagonist of this show has super speed and is not the Hulk. Stop making him try to fight like it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2014, 05:46:31 PM
I didn't watch it yet... but I really hope it's not as bad as you are saying (sounds pretty stupid).

Gotham has been waiting for an opening to take over that #2 spot. I haven't watched Gotham this week yet either, so this could be its chance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 19, 2014, 09:31:31 PM
Need to watch the latest Gotham as well. I think I'm most excited for it until I finish pushing through the first season of Agents of Shield to get to the good stuff.



I'm still holding out hope for Walking Dead to make a turnabout and it looks like the mid-season finale could bring the show back to a better format. No more of this split story line crap. Even my favorite characters feel sub-par when the team is broken up like it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 19, 2014, 09:44:39 PM
Funny thing is that I like how the Walking Dead story is spilt right now as it really helps avoid Season 2 syndrome of people just holding up in some hole with the occasional zombie moaning. I wish they would leave the state of Georgia, but that's not happening, so the next best thing is to split people up to cover more ground and see more bit of the state.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 19, 2014, 11:00:57 PM
Maybe I'm just being unreasonable but:

The Flash:  Oh my goodness. That episode was terrible.

While Arrow has it's silliness, there are just parts of this that are just ridiculous beyond all comprehension. The whole point of the flash is that he is fast, so why the hell does he insist on taking punches?? He should be untouchable!! He should see every single blow and projectile in super slow motion. Why not just get the hell out of the way?

So this week he fights DC's version of Colossus. Pretty cool idea. So why try to strong arm the super strong metal guy? Why did he insist on holding onto the flagpole??? He is being smeared all over the walls and he refuses to let go of the flagpole to make it stop?

So the solution? Flash uses a supersonic punch which would apparently overpower the steel guy. That sounds awesome. Something new, breaking new ground. Let's see what they do about this. Takes his run up, flies through the air and lands the blow. Nice effect. Looked pretty good. Fake Colossus is grounded and dazed for a few seconds, but gets back up to roflstomp Barry with not even a mark on his face from where a blow moving at supersonic speeds landed mere seconds before. AND IRIS KNOCKS HIM OUT WITH A SINGLE PUNCH TO THE CHIN!!!! WHAT THE HELL???

Did no one watch this after editing to see how stupid it looks? This should have been a fantastic showpiece. First supersonic punch. It should have had a real impact. Been memorable. I was laughing and crying at the same time. I really hope the writers get their act together and realize that the protagonist of this show has super speed and is not the Hulk. Stop making him try to fight like it.


You seem like an unfun person. Most people seemed to love the punch bad editing aside, but if we had a show about the flash realistically it wouldn't be much of a show. Were you one of those guys complning why thor who went toe to toe with the destroyer was on even footing with the Iron Man Armor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 20, 2014, 12:31:58 AM
Not at all.  I am actually quite easy to please believe it or not. 

To give you a gauge of what it takes to entertain me, I actually enjoyed the Transformers movies.  (Yes I know they are terrible, but I enjoy them nonetheless)  I'm not expecting a factually realistic show.  As you say that would be quite uninteresting.  However  I would at least expect them to focus on the strengths of the character.  Barry is fast, not a he-man and he obviously can't fight to save his life.  Why do they insist on making him try to take people on directly in a fist fight. All he does with his speed is arrive on site and leave.  He doesn't use it to his advantage in a fight.  And let's face it, it's the only advantage he has.  At least for the time being. 

But what made it painfully stand out was the scenario I mentioned above.  Iris took out the very large antagonist with one punch, while Barry had been cleaned up 3 times throughout the whole episode.  It could have been written so much better than that. 

As well as other inconsistencies (how did Fakelossus hear Barry coming to deliver the superpunch and prepare himself when Barry is moving faster than the speed of sound?)   It just all stacks up to make some really jarring moments. 

But of course this is just my opinion. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 20, 2014, 07:09:59 AM
Person of Interest: Martine just turned into The Terminator for about 60 seconds. And it. was. glorious.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2014, 10:30:22 AM
Re: The Flash.

I watched it. I didn't take it as bad as you did. Dude heard a sound, just after fighting The Flash, so he armored up. Barry knocked the ability to armor up out of him, basically leaving him dazed and temporarily glass jawed. Iris came in and tapped the weak spot, and the glass shattered.

You could question how he heard the sound of glass breaking blocks and blocks away just before the sonic boom. You could even question why he would leave Iris in that hallway when he took off, or why he didn't just let go of the flag pole instead of being slammed repeatedly up against the walls, but it's TV, you have to suspend a little.


edit: I think the worse offense is that when he comes flying in at Mach 1.1, he winds up his right hand for the K.O. punch, but when they do the actual punch, he punches with the left....
(http://i.imgur.com/8Khd3T1.gif)


What I think they should have done though was mention the amount of destruction that was caused down the street leading up to that Elementary School. He shattered windows several floors up on buildings and probably didn't 10's upon 10's of 1000's of $$ of damage to the cars and buildings along that path. A blurb on the news or something in the background would have worked.
Overall, I think it was pretty solid. But The Flash really does need to start using his super speed to his advantage to evade and frustrate the enemy more than attempt to punch them harder.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 20, 2014, 12:08:25 PM
I can't think of a scenario where that works unless he sees the flash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2014, 12:47:21 PM
Person of Interest: Martine just turned into The Terminator for about 60 seconds. And it. was. glorious.

Are you talking about the prison scene or the bar scene? Either way, it was her best showing yet. I liked it more than the Root/Martine hotel fight a couple episodes ago. It took me a moment to place the actress when she first appeared but then I realized it was from Mad Men season 4. It's very interesting to see her play a villain like this and I think it suits her more. Finally glad stuff is happening with Elias. I've meant to post more about POI but just haven't taken the time to settle down and type out all my thoughts. It's nice to see him getting more of a focus after being built up so much for the first two seasons and then almost disappearing in the third.

As for the cliffhanger of Martine preparing to confront Shaw, while a sudden shoot-out could be very interesting, my guess is that Root is already there and ready to intervene to allow Shaw to escape and maintain her cover identity a bit longer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ObbyDent on November 20, 2014, 02:27:16 PM
Wow, that show looks god awful.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 20, 2014, 02:41:36 PM
It was not one of the shows best CG efforts, but it's mostly because it's a close up scene.
It's pretty good for being on a CW budget though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 20, 2014, 02:56:48 PM
That is basically the worst thing I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 20, 2014, 03:03:12 PM
Wow, that show looks god awful.
That is basically the worst thing I've ever seen.
Really?
I feel for your Longterm Memory.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2014, 03:05:18 PM
That is basically the worst thing I've ever seen.

Something finally topped your wife and kid? Wow. This calls for a celebration.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ObbyDent on November 20, 2014, 05:12:12 PM
Wow, that show looks god awful.
Really?

Yes, really. I can't stand the two CW DC shows and whatever channel Gotham is on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2014, 05:53:53 PM
Like Legend of Korra is some kind of masterpiece. You want to talk crap TV, that's the top of the list right there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 20, 2014, 06:43:00 PM
I think the story overall was interesting.  I liked the idea of Barry dealing with a childhood Bully that now has powers.  It is extremely cliche, but it works, because it shows Barry needs to remember he has limitations.  This show is basically what Smallville should have been. 

The punch is also acceptable for television budget up until the impact.  His opponent is not fixed to the floor. The force alone should have knocked him back.  He should have flew into the lockers and dented them and be knocked out cold.  Then Barry could have confidently said.  "I beat you."

However, this is a problem if Hollywood.  It has been set up for ages now, a woman can not "just" be held hostage and be helpless anymore.  She needs the hero to save her, but she will ALWAYS end up saving him in the process.  So that the writers can show the girl as strong and not needing help.  This is an extreme example of such a situation, made worse because the writers didn't fully explain his powers well.  I guess Barry's punch knocked him hard enough that he went out of his metal state...but then Iris said she almost broke her hand too...so confusing.

At any rate...it is not the worst television, but it was a blight on an otherwise good start to a show.  However, it is beginning to show the formula of the show, and hopefully they are careful to break the mold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 21, 2014, 11:52:54 AM
...
I guess Barry's punch knocked him hard enough that he went out of his metal state...but then Iris said she almost broke her hand too...so confusing.
...
Well you don't need to have powers for someone to break there hands hitting your jaw.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 21, 2014, 11:59:28 AM
I doubt she is skilled at boxing (like NewLaurel), so she may have just clenched her fist as tight as she could (or not at all) and swung for the fences.

I think it worked out perfectly and made sense.
what didn't make sense is the right hand wind up with a left hand punch. Seeing that scene gif'd on repeat just ruins that whole scene for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 21, 2014, 12:45:35 PM
I doubt she is skilled at boxing (like NewLaurel),
...
The last time I saw Laurel "Box" on Arrow.  I'm fairly sure I'm more skilled still from my fews years of Karate from Grade School.  Though I haven't watched the newest episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 21, 2014, 01:23:42 PM
she wasn't in the most recent episode.

But she is currently training with YoungWildCat, so NewLaurel will be a better boxer than OldLaurel was a self-defenser.

But I bet Iris punches harder than Barry, minus any "meta-human" advantage.
Old Laurel would probably kick both of their asses though, before she got home and realized that Wells had broken into her apartment and was waiting for her.... gun in hand, no wheelchair in sight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 21, 2014, 01:41:08 PM
Man Laurel apartment might as well had been a convenience store for how secure it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 21, 2014, 03:03:57 PM
Person of Interest: Martine just turned into The Terminator for about 60 seconds. And it. was. glorious.

Are you talking about the prison scene or the bar scene? Either way, it was her best showing yet. I liked it more than the Root/Martine hotel fight a couple episodes ago. It took me a moment to place the actress when she first appeared but then I realized it was from Mad Men season 4. It's very interesting to see her play a villain like this and I think it suits her more. Finally glad stuff is happening with Elias. I've meant to post more about POI but just haven't taken the time to settle down and type out all my thoughts. It's nice to see him getting more of a focus after being built up so much for the first two seasons and then almost disappearing in the third.

As for the cliffhanger of Martine preparing to confront Shaw, while a sudden shoot-out could be very interesting, my guess is that Root is already there and ready to intervene to allow Shaw to escape and maintain her cover identity a bit longer.

I meant that bar scene.

The show's use of Elias using him slightly and rarely rather than slapping him front and centre has been one of it's better strengths - the less of him the better it is for the long term.

And about Shaw? note how Root is ALWAYS absent in stories that don't relate to the machine - so it's fair to say she's already aware and waiting somewhere for this to go down
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on November 23, 2014, 01:13:36 AM
I am only 4 episodes into The Flash and I already lost interest. I loved it at first as a fan of the comic and it still works but I am not liking how toned down it is compared to Gotham and Arrow, it feels out of place. I know they aren't all 3 in exactly the same shared universe but Arrow and Flash are and they just clash too much in tone right now. Plus I am addicted to Arrow right now trying to get caught up and Gotham is still the best thing on TV at the moment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 23, 2014, 01:17:36 AM
what season of Arrow? obviously not Season 3, because S3 of Arrow is bottom of the pack atm.

Agents of SHIELD >>>> The Flash/Gotham >>>>>>>>>>Arrow(S3)/Constantine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 25, 2014, 10:14:23 PM
another good episode from Person of Interest.

It's time to step up or get stepped on.
Elias is simultaneously a step ahead, and a step behind.
Dominic get his game face on, but still has a few things to learn from the master. (Big shoes to fill)
Shaw, holding it down. Root, planting seeds.
John, The Muthafucking Batman (with a gun).
Samaritan, cheat code unlocked - swarm activated. /oprahbees.gif
Harold, more effective than Felicity... but nowhere near as cute.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 25, 2014, 10:59:50 PM
The last episode of Star Wars rebels for the year was good, didn't really push the plot that much further but had alot of character development for Ezra and seeing him wield the Dark side was pretty awesome and his power levels seem to be high.


For me it goes


The Flash> Agents of Shield>Arrow>Gotham.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 27, 2014, 04:39:38 AM
Bob's Burgers strikes again with Thunderdome and Fat Burt Reynolds. I can't believe how long the setup for some of the jokes are. A good bit of brain exercise keeping track of all the happenings in an episode.

Since the Anime thread just doesn't get enough material to keep breathing, anybody got recommeendations on some good recent shows? SAO 2 recovered from awfulness of GGO. Space Dandy was just great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 27, 2014, 09:17:40 AM
Bob's Burgers strikes again with Thunderdome and Fat Burt Reynolds. I can't believe how long the setup for some of the jokes are. A good bit of brain exercise keeping track of all the happenings in an episode.

Since the Anime thread just doesn't get enough material to keep breathing, anybody got recommeendations on some good recent shows? SAO 2 recovered from awfulness of GGO. Space Dandy was just great.

If you have US Netflix I recommend Wakfu if you haven't seen it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on November 27, 2014, 02:36:41 PM
Agents of Shield is on Netflix. I'm digging it so far though I'm only on the third episode. I heard it starts sucking for a while. Oh well, at least Skye is fun to look at.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2014, 03:42:50 PM
it's easier to marathon that it is to wait week by week and read about on forums where details get nitpicked and opinions gets amplified.

Power through knowing that it's about to get good, and get rewarded by seeing that season 2 delivers, making season one worthwhile.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 27, 2014, 03:45:15 PM
another good episode from Person of Interest.

It's time to step up or get stepped on.
Elias is simultaneously a step ahead, and a step behind.
Dominic get his game face on, but still has a few things to learn from the master. (Big shoes to fill)
Shaw, holding it down. Root, planting seeds.
John, The Muthafucking Batman (with a gun).
Samaritan, cheat code unlocked - swarm activated. /oprahbees.gif
Harold, more effective than Felicity... but nowhere near as cute.

When Elias said that at the end, my reply was oh ****, things just got serious. I suspect there's going to be a massive collision between Team Machine, Samaritan, Elias and The Brotherhood - when suddenly Elias realises there's far more at stake than his personal concerns
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2014, 04:45:31 PM
another good episode from Person of Interest.

It's time to step up or get stepped on.
Elias is simultaneously a step ahead, and a step behind.
Dominic get his game face on, but still has a few things to learn from the master. (Big shoes to fill)
Shaw, holding it down. Root, planting seeds.
John, The Muthafucking Batman (with a gun).
Samaritan, cheat code unlocked - swarm activated. /oprahbees.gif
Harold, more effective than Felicity... but nowhere near as cute.

When Elias said that at the end, my reply was oh ****, things just got serious. I suspect there's going to be a massive collision between Team Machine, Samaritan, Elias and The Brotherhood - when suddenly Elias realises there's far more at stake than his personal concerns

I didn't catch this while watching, read about it afterwards, but the code on the safe: 103074 (10/30/74 aka Oct. 30th 1974) = The Rumble in the Jungle. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rumble_in_the_Jungle)
and John referred to Elias actions as a "rope-a-dope".

Heavyweights are about to FIGHT. **** is about to go down.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on November 28, 2014, 01:12:17 AM
I just finished Season 1 of Arrow. Season 2 is looking to be less soap opera hopefully. I quite watching the flash until I catch up on Arrow. Gotham wasn't that great this week, its starting to slip. I didn't even watch Walking Dead, after last few episodes I am burned out on it I will take a break and either move on or come back after a while.

Last Man Standing has run out of steam and has now begun its downward spiral I hope they have the good sense to get out before it turns to total crap. I did really like the new Big Bang Theory, hadn't watched a good one in a while but that one was alright.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2014, 02:43:47 AM
I thought Gotham was pretty good considering it was a Selina/Bruce episode for the most part.
Selina was actually bearable, and Bruce has been pretty good, especially since the stair slap, and then the watch beatdown. Alfred went James Bond, from kicking ass to charming ladies, but always getting results.
Was and has certainly been better than Arrow so far this season.

as far as Season 2 of Arrow, you are in for a treat. It moves quick, never really gets boring, and kicks a lot of ass right up until the rather disappointing 3 part finale.... show hasn't recovered since. at least not yet, I know they are about to ramp it up soon, but almost everything about S3 has been pretty dull so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 28, 2014, 10:32:57 AM
Oh, I'm getting sick of checking in on this thread and seeing the constant complaint of Arrow Season 3 being dull or weaker compared to other shows. I found it very good. It's not without its flaws but I find I look forward to a new Arrow episode more than The Flash or most other shows, even Person of Interest at times.

I've meaning to write up my impressions of Arrow Season 3 so far but I keep doing other things. So, instead, I'll just go briefly on record as stating that I'm in favor of Season 3 so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on November 28, 2014, 11:52:13 AM
well to be fair I haven't watched it yet so I might agree with you.


BNM, my complaint with this episode is I don't like this version of Alfred and as "bad ass" as he was it clashes with my expectations of Alfred. It wasn't a bad episode it just felt like filler to me. i also didn't like them having Bruce and Salena living together in the first place but I do like that they are forming a tight bond it works for this version of Batman.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2014, 01:53:34 PM
Oh, I'm getting sick of checking in on this thread and seeing the constant complaint of Arrow Season 3 being dull or weaker compared to other shows. I found it very good. It's not without its flaws but I find I look forward to a new Arrow episode more than The Flash or most other shows, even Person of Interest at times.

I've meaning to write up my impressions of Arrow Season 3 so far but I keep doing other things. So, instead, I'll just go briefly on record as stating that I'm in favor of Season 3 so far.

Problems with Arrow S3 so far...
-not even a single flashback has been interesting nor had any relevance to a present time event. The Sarah murder mystery is dull so far. The Thea/Merlyn plotline has gone nowhere.... it has actually regressed back to Thea ineptly running the club again while Merlyn has disappeared. Diggle still has no purpose. Retired heavyweight champ Wildcat used to be a vigilante when he was younger... but he looks early 30's and like a middle weight boxer at best.... expected a little older, and a little bigger. Ra's showed up for 2 seconds, never to be seen again... no progression on LoA vs Merlyn or "war" with the Arrow. There is no "Big Bad" for the season yet. and Felicity... what is she doing?

I know things will pick up starting with the crossover next week, but The Flash has been running circles around Arrow. Gotham has been corrupting Arrow's audience. and Agents of SHIELD has sent Arrow back to Academy for further training. Not to say Arrow is bad, it's just far below the bar is set last season, vacating the throne to AoS.

Actually, seeing how Arrow S3 has been handled so far with concurrent production of The Flash (which looks to be their main focus) at the same time, makes me a little weary for Arrow S4 and The Flash S2 when Supergirl takes flight next season on CBS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 28, 2014, 02:35:01 PM
Early 30's is being really kind to Wildcat. I say early 20's at best.  Personality wise I think he was a good choice.  Physically though I think he was a really lousy choice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 28, 2014, 03:06:41 PM
Unless they connect Gotham to the Arrowverse. But then Arrow would be significantly older. Granted, changing the ages and order of events isn't a bad thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on November 28, 2014, 03:17:31 PM
Unless they connect Gotham to the Arrowverse. But then Arrow would be significantly older. Granted, changing the ages and order of events isn't a bad thing.
He's what 8 or so in the series.  Judging from the computers and TV's I say they are 95-96.  Arrow by all accounts is today.  That put Batman at about 26 if tied into the Arrowverse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 28, 2014, 03:22:52 PM
I never thought much about when Gotham was taking place. Have they ever commented on this? I assumed any appearance of aged tech was connected to the city being extremely poor and in disrepair.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2014, 04:02:01 PM
Gotham is purposely ambiguous when it comes to time period. You're not supposed to know when exactly it is taking place, and it has absolutely no connection to Arrowverse.
They totally could connect them like you guys are suggesting, but I doubt that would ever happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 28, 2014, 05:08:52 PM
I personally would prefer they did not outside of a "multiverse" reference. Because of DCs more disjointed approach to their shows and films they would botch the whole setup.


I like that the show is ambiguous with the era. It makes the show feel a bit more timeless and I believe that may cause it to stand up 50+ years from now versus some other shows. It could really take place any time in the last 20 years give or take a few things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 30, 2014, 11:59:13 PM
The Walking Dead - Sad Face/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on December 01, 2014, 12:46:54 AM
The Walking Dead - Sad Face/10
Agreed.

:(

Gotham is purposely ambiguous when it comes to time period.

Yup.  And it's one of the things I like about it.  Old CRT monitors on the computers, but everyone's carrying cell phones.  Except for Bruce, who actually finds a pay phone.  There are LCD TVs, but everyone's driving around in a car from the 70's.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 01, 2014, 01:48:34 AM
The Walking Dead - Sad Face/10

Why!? I don't understand... or should I say "i don't get it now".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 01, 2014, 03:36:42 PM
It was an awful choice for the story. Makes all of the build up be for nothing. May as well pretend season 5 hasn't started yet.

Though rethinking it this morning, I see how the character I predicted would die couldn't be the one because too many people accepted that death already.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 01, 2014, 03:49:39 PM
but why would she do that? Did I miss something?

and who did you predict? Carol?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 01, 2014, 04:11:14 PM
but why would she do that? Did I miss something?

and who did you predict? Carol?


Yes, I predicted Carol at the beginning of the season. They have been building that character up and the director made a comment about how a character had to "earn" their death by being popular enough. I don't think that Beth had earned the right to die yet. Though it does make sense with the conversations held in previous episodes and earlier in that episode. I thought it would go down like this:


Daryl is forced to choose between Carol and Beth. Carol sacrifices herself so that Daryl is not forced to make the choice. Not that it doesn't hurt him any less. She would, of course, go out with a bang, maybe blowing up the hospital's bad cops or some such action.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 02, 2014, 05:44:52 PM
Finished the first season of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. yesterday. It's a good show to binge. I actually didn't mind the first half like most people did which I attribute to being able to move right into the next episode. There are some corny moments, but oddly, they didn't really bother me until the finale. Samuel L. Jackson sounded like he was phoning in his lines.

I thought the show could have used more tie-ins with the movies, namely Nick Fury and Maria Hill since they were S.H.I.E.L.D agents. I suppose the Project T.A.H.I.T.I. stuff wouldn't be as dramatic or secretive if Fury and Hill were around to answer questions. I liked most of the characters with the exception of May and Ward. May plays the straight-man and does so well, but I generally don't really like those characters because they're supposed to be boring. She had some good fight scenes. Ward was just lame before and after the big plot twist regarding his character. Brett Dalton isn't a very good actor which probably has a lot to do with it. I liked Skye even though I'm fully aware that she's that character who all the other characters have to explain things to so viewers know what's going on. She had some funny lines and her delivery is spot-on.

The special effects were surprisingly decent for a TV show. Sometimes, the greenscreen stuff was bad, but most of the stuff with The Bus looked good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2014, 05:48:20 PM
If you liked season 1, prepare yourself, because you will LOVE season 2.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 02, 2014, 07:43:59 PM
One of the problems with AOS season 1 was that every episode they felt that they had to remind you "New York" happened. It was really unnatural compared to Season 1.5 where they moved on from NYC to dealing with the fallout from the Winter Solider in an organic manner instead of name dropping it like it means something.

Another problem was that there wasn't enough material in the Project T.A.H.I.T.I arc to hold a season together. You can only drag something like that for so long before people get disinterested or disengage being dragged around for so long.

Ward and Skye were a real drag to the show with ward somewhat continuing to be so. On the other hand I am pissed they broke the relationship between Fritz and Simmons. There relationship had a really good flow to it. I don't mind Trip and Fritz hanging out being bros. But it went from cruising along then 100 miles an hour to nothing. The Man isn't dead Simmons, he got brain damaged and it wasn't your fault.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 02, 2014, 09:06:34 PM
Flash Vs Arrow


10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 04:05:15 AM
Agents of SHIELD

MACK!!!? NOOOOOooooOooooOOooO!!!!!
did we just witness the birth of PowerMan? Will Mack become Luke Cage!?

another good episode from AoS. S2 is on a roll, like a good streak at the craps table. Next week is gonna be crazy, but now I need to find the preview for it so I can tease myself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 03, 2014, 02:36:28 PM
That was by far the best episode of Flash as far as I am concerned.

That is how Flash SHOULD be used.  He used his speed to his advantage rather than trying to bruteforce an obviously stronger opponent like he did in that trash from a couple of weeks ago.

Lets just hope that they continue using his speed and it wasn't just a thing that happened because he was insane.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2014, 07:19:33 PM
Oh man, great episode of The Flash.

They handled the vs portion of it really well. Some good humor as well, they 2 crews mesh pretty well.
and I just about lost it when The Flash went all IP Man on Arrow. but he must hit like a girl, because Ollie didn't even look sore afterwards. Probably felt like a shiatsu massage. Too bad they didn't show the actual defeat and capture of the Meta. I'm kinda curious how they took him down and locked him up without permanently fixing some rose tinted goggles to his face.


edit: And Ollie is totally gonna bang Iris. The Arrow will strike again. Welcome to the New Age Barry. ;)
oh, and Wells is an ass. busting out Ollies secret identity infront of everyone like that. Not that he was any good at keeping anyway, but still.

edit2: and that baby momma drama. It's coming.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2014, 12:28:33 AM
Best episode of Arrow so far this season.

But, The Flash did it better.
Cisco and Barry definitely lighten the grim dark mood of Arrow. The 2 crews really do mesh well together. I would actually like it if they crossover more often.

and I can't wait to see what toys Cisco comes up with for The Arrow.... hopefully it's an actual security system for The Quiver (aka Arrow Cave). Can anyone just walk up in there unannounced!? ridiculous. But I bet this is when Arrow starts getting all the crazy trick arrows... and maybe Cisco will give Diggle an outfit for when he's out in the field too.

edit
What kind of rift would be caused when the cast of both shows line up infront of each other?

Ollie / Barry
Quentin / Joe
Laurel / Iris

that alone is already gonna be kinda awkward
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 04, 2014, 02:10:05 AM
It was good. I enjoyed myself but I do think it best to keep superpowers out of Arrow. It just creates logical nightmares.

The biggest glaring thing for me was Captain Boomerang is attacking Argus and he throws the two boomerangs at Oliver. Flash shows up and grabs the two boomerangs in the nick of time. Then Captain Boomerang throws some flash powder and "disappears" aka runs away. Meanwhile, Flash just stands there smiling at Oliver. Really? Not going to use your superspeed to chase down the bad guy or knock him unconscious? It's like at the end when they confront Captain Boomerang at the train station. The Flash grabs everyone off the platform for safety before he and Oliver confront the Captain. Why not just use the super speed to knock him out as he would clearly not be able to counterattack as shown by his reaction of just watching everyone disappear around him while Flash vacates them all. But no, they stand around talking to him allowing him to then activate the bombs.

I was also disappointed that a portion of the Arrow cast was relegated to the sidelines. Quinten, Laurel and Thea basically make cameos. No Ray Palmer. Nothing going on with Malcolm. Maybe he was hiding in some bushes watching Thea and I just didn't see him on a first watch.

Yes, The Flash did it better as it advanced The Flash storyline and even helped set things up with Arrow's storylines. Plus, The Flash involved all of its cast quite well. Even Singh finally started getting some screen time. I like to think the reason he approved the Flash taskforce is because the Flash stole his lunch. Way to be a hero, Barry. This episode had very little effect on The Flash show and even with Arrow's current season, it did very little with any of the moving pieces occurring right now. Worst of all, Felicity asks for help with looking into Sara's death by examining some DNA on The Flash but I guess she didn't bring the sample or files with her? So then Team S.T.A.R. labs shows up to help with the DNA except they are just there to pick it up and see how the Arrow lives? Finally, when they go, they say they will just call with the results. Thanks for dragging that thing to death.

For me, the best episodes of Arrow this season have been the first two episodes and Nyssa's return with that one being the best episode so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 04, 2014, 09:19:12 AM
You know the whole Flash episode of this could have been crap if it gets rid of the Virtual Incest junk they've been pushing like it indicates it might.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 04, 2014, 09:00:32 PM
Ceric:  If you read the comic you know Iris is Flash's Lois Lane.  They are forever meant to be together, and he always saves her, and if anybody or anything threatens her it is basically incurring the wrath of one of DC's most powerful Super Heroes...not smart.

I think both episodes were good.  I think the biggest problem with the Arrow episode was that all the interesting stuff happened in the first crossover.  The order should have been reversed...the Arrow episode dealing solely with Flash team and Barry learning to take crime fighting seriously...and learning that even with great power you must be smart.  Then the Flash episode should have been second and had the Flash vs. Arrow battle. 

I personally didn't mind that Arrow let some of its characters take a backseat that episode, but I wish they wouldn't have wasted time on the flashback episodes.  Spending valuable time exploring something that really didn't need to be explored.  I think this is a problem when you are a slave to your own formula.  Lost also had this problem.

Khush I get what you are saying about the last battle with Boomerang.  However, I liked how Barry was Barry...and thought of the people first.  I also think that is partly why he didn't just tie Boomerang up.  Flash wants to show (much like Superman) that crime in his city is futile.  He also wants to inspire people to be better...to use powers for good.  He sees the potential good in people even when they are bad. 

There is a reason the Rogue's although they hate Flash, respect him.  In the New 52 Forever Evil.  Captain Cold kills the "Evil Flash" and talks about how he would never kill the real Flash because of the mutual respect they have for each other. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 04, 2014, 10:46:28 PM
Well the supporting cast only getting cameos was intentonal since they'll all play into whats happening n the second half of the season. Laurel herself is getting a trilogy of episoides to show her become Black Canary and hopefully Ted into Wild Cat proper.




As for the episodes I thought Flash Vs Arrow was the better episode, but I think I enjoyed Brave and The Bold much more. I knew what we were getting once we knew the name of that particular story, which is par for course for superheroes for the most part. I enjoyed the Arrow episode more because we  saw Barry seeing how Oliver works first hand and we got to see three superheros team up to fight Captain Boomerrang. Yes we know logically that The Flash should have made it too ARGUS first and wiped the floor with Boomerang, but where would be the fun in that. Instead we got to see Boomerang do his thing, fight two archers, and than Barry comes in for the save grabbing the boomerangs. The biggest take away is Ollie needs to get his ass in gear about being Oliver Queen and getting his company back, but that probably won't be for sometime If what I think happens next week does.


How can anyone hate this.


(https://38.media.tumblr.com/94982521196e4360a5f3937932bd6c34/tumblr_ng1amrjApz1tgcum7o1_400.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 04, 2014, 10:55:48 PM
Captain Boomerang? HAHAHAHha. Caan't take him seriously after watch the Batman: the Brave and the bold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 04, 2014, 11:59:11 PM
Well actually I think the scene with the Argus fight makes sense.  Probably Barry was called by his team when the battle first started.  That means Barry has to travel from one city to the other, find out where the Arrow is...and wait to show boat to Ollie, because he did that to him the last time. 

Makes perfect timing since. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 05, 2014, 02:41:05 PM
Evidently, Arrow has the ability to see, comprehend and move his head in Flash time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2014, 02:45:59 PM
...
How can anyone hate this.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/94982521196e4360a5f3937932bd6c34/tumblr_ng1amrjApz1tgcum7o1_400.gif)
At the time not really but now that I see it on loop it annoys me that Ollie looks to the side and doesn't immediately cock an arrow to counter attack.

@Spak-Spang:  In the comic did they grow up together? (Iris and Barry)

Now that I've seen both episodes it annoys me even more that they cut out where they captured the Meta.  There probably was a great see with him zapping the Arrow and not really doing anything to him.  It feels like that just cut it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 05, 2014, 03:11:25 PM
...
How can anyone hate this.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/94982521196e4360a5f3937932bd6c34/tumblr_ng1amrjApz1tgcum7o1_400.gif)
At the time not really but now that I see it on loop it annoys me that Ollie looks to the side and doesn't immediately cock an arrow to counter attack.

@Spak-Spang:  In the comic did they grow up together? (Iris and Barry)

Now that I've seen both episodes it annoys me even more that they cut out where they captured the Meta.  There probably was a great see with him zapping the Arrow and not really doing anything to him.  It feels like that just cut it.


The cut to the meta human being at Star Labs was poorly done, my hope is for the next crossover they fight a physical threat that needs them to team up.


In the comics Iris and Barry didn't grow up like siblings like in the show. In the current universe they just know each other through work, and never dated. The only real reason why Iris is in the comics is too be the Mary Jane too Patty's Gwen and to give reason why Wally is in the cast.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 05, 2014, 03:17:51 PM
The Arrow episode annoyed me in that both times when Flash appears, Captain Boomerang is totally not-bothered about someone moving at that speed.

Diggle was pretty stunned, which was the right attitude (especially as both he and Lyla never knew in advance).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 05, 2014, 04:08:43 PM
...
In the comics Iris and Barry didn't grow up like siblings like in the show. In the current universe they just know each other through work, and never dated. The only real reason why Iris is in the comics is too be the Mary Jane too Patty's Gwen and to give reason why Wally is in the cast.
That I'm perfectly ok with, makes sense, and I think works.  The growing up as sibling thing is what really muddles it for me.

The Arrow episode annoyed me in that both times when Flash appears, Captain Boomerang is totally not-bothered about someone moving at that speed.
...
After some of the stuff Waller probably put him through it might of felt just like another day in the office for him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 05, 2014, 04:26:10 PM
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In the comics Iris and Barry didn't grow up like siblings like in the show. In the current universe they just know each other through work, and never dated. The only real reason why Iris is in the comics is too be the Mary Jane too Patty's Gwen and to give reason why Wally is in the cast.
That I'm perfectly ok with, makes sense, and I think works.  The growing up as sibling thing is what really muddles it for me.

You probably didn't like the movie Clueless then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 06, 2014, 10:35:33 AM
I loved Clueless so much that I fell for the lie that Emma was "the same thing" as presented on the box. Should have known better. Then I grew up and now I totally hate Clueless except for the occasional 90's nostalgia, which Can't Hardly Wait is ten times better for.


I am mid way through Season 2 of Arrow. My new responsibilities at work have cut back on my at home TV watching time, working in a TV studio I get plenty of Tv at work though, but since I work for an ABC/Fox affiliate we don't get Arrow or Flash.I just watched the Flash intro episode on Arrow, it was kind of fun. I want to finish Arrow before I get back into Flash because I want to watch them together.

I am officially done with Walking Dead haven't seen the last two episodes but based on internet chatter I am walking away at the right time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 06, 2014, 12:49:34 PM
I am giving Walking Dead until the end of this season. It is still entertaining, but it has fallen pretty far down the list of interesting shows.


And Agents of Shield S1 is very enjoyable so far. We have almost finished it and it is a fun ride. I think previous comments about binge watching are quite true. Also, our bar of expectations were lowered enough that we are now pleasantly surprised with the show. It is our #1 show right now (can't wait to hit S2).


We will try to get Flash going this December as well while other shows are on the mid-season break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 06, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
I started to watch the first episode of Agents of Shield on Netflix. I decided to see if I can fit it in my rotation now that all the good shows are going into their mid-season break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2014, 02:20:54 PM
Mid Season Finale for comic the BIG 3 comic shows aired this week.

Agents of SHIELD:
what an incredible turn around this show has had, and the mid season finale was full season finale worthy in it's execution and reveal. No one thought AoS would get a big MCU reveal and not just react to what's happening in the movies, but they did it, and they did it pretty damn well. AoS is now MUST WATCH TV for all MCU fans. Now I await to see how they build up to AoU and then Civil War.
This is the comic show to beat, and the competition is atleast a full step behind as far as I'm concerned.
Skye vs Ward was like HOLY ****!!! as she just unloaded on his ass. Even he didn't expect that.Her whole rebirth in the chamber was just such an exciting well shot moment and poor Tripp... :( RIP brotha. Hope you got some Simmons before you moved on.


The Flash
edit: Good episode. Reverse Flash is kinda scary, and just the fact that it is Wells all along is quite twisted, even if predictable for the comic enthusiast that are familiar with these characters. Can I just say that Caitlin (Danielle Panabaker) is so fucking cute. If I could get Caitlin (The Flash) and Liza (Gotham) together, maybe throw in a little Skye (AoS) with a possible assist from Nyssa (Arrow), I would have some action that is way too hot for comics or TV.
One thing I don't get about this episode was how Wells ended up in the forcefield to get his ass kicked if RF could get out of it. He couldn't have possibly "jumped" in on his own for the deceptive missdirect, so how did RF reach him?
and where did Firestorm come from all of a sudden? good save, nice exit, but such a random entrance.



Arrow: A decent episode. Ra's was certainly shown to be a badass, but Ollie was fighting him like he was taking a dive, or he was an amateur. Either way, he seemed to not be performing at his usual level for this fight. And Amell really needs to learn how to emote past that blank stare. He just isn't selling it and it's becoming harder and harder to overlook it, especially when you see him paired up with Barry, Felicity, Caitlin, and Cisco who all interact and emote like real human beings. Oh, and that scene with Thea was HAHAHAHA, LOL are you serious!? WTF was that?
They should have started her training for this arc back in season 1, not 4 months before shooting. That was such an awkward "action" scene. and then her yelling out just before jumping off the balcony was so LOLworthy. So bad it was good again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 11, 2014, 03:53:42 PM
Wells being the Yellow Flash was well really predictable.  I was hoping that it be something more interesting like him being a different Flash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 11, 2014, 06:20:19 PM
2 things I have discerned 10 minutes into Arrow.

1. Felicity must be hitting the weights on the quiet. She has quite the biceps on her. Hopefully there are plans for her.

2. I cannot stand hearing Alex Kingston (who will always be Lizzy Corday as far as I am concerned) bung on an American accent. Why couldn't they leave her with the english.


And after completing the episode:

Certainly one of the better episodes.  But the whole Olicity thing just doesn't work.  Amell can't show emotion to save his life. 

The fight was a great example of a half drunk bar room brawl.  Wildly incompetent swings.  I get that they were trying to make the point that Ghul is by far the superior combatant and very intimidating, but they could have at least put more effort into making Oliver look half decent.   That was a joke.  Also, he caught the sword in his hand?  What the hell? Surely it should have done more damage than slightly cutting his finger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2014, 06:32:34 PM
Yes. The Ra's fight was disappointing in the aspect that Ollie should have at least shown some competency.

Amell seriously needs some acting lessons. move some face muscles man. It's a damn shame you can't work those out on a salmon ladder, otherwise he would be all good by now.

But you made no mention of that turrble Thea vs Arrow scene where she jumped out the damn window.... smh, that was so bad I literally laughed out loud during the scene. It was so awkward and unbelievable and Arrow just stands there in just as much shock as probably everyone else watching from home. I'm gonna find a gif of that scene and post it. it's too bad to not spoil and share.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 11, 2014, 06:44:17 PM
Yeah I know that was a silly scene.  But while not very well acted I can at least understand why Oliver would have been taken aback.  He thought his sister was completely helpless and harmless and all of a sudden she busts out some moves.  I can understand the shock. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 11, 2014, 06:50:53 PM
"Stay away from me and my father" ::says Thea in awkward fighting stance just before::
(http://i.imgur.com/oF6VfDs.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 11, 2014, 07:03:51 PM
He may as well have had a flashing neon sign that says OLIVER QUEEN on his chest.  How did she not recognize him haha.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on December 12, 2014, 12:44:27 AM
Oliver did just climb up a frozen mountain the hard way, I think he was just tired.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 12, 2014, 12:56:40 AM
Oliver did just climb up a frozen mountain the hard way, I think he was just tired.

Yeah, well now he's dead tired, and getting down the mountain the easy way.


edit: and now someone has edited that fight scene to be much more entertaining.


Arrow Spoilers obviously....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 15, 2014, 02:42:02 AM
Finally finished watching Arrow, up to the mid-season finale, and that has got to be the best finale I have seen in awhile.  Obviously, if you are a DC comic fan you know HOW they can get away with that...and WHAT they will do to fix it...but DANG, I still can't believe it was such a good episode.

Of course we can predict what will be happening for the next few episodes...personally, I can't wait for Crazy Arrow after a certain pit is used.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 15, 2014, 09:32:00 PM
Parchute Pants away. The actual Arrow ending was much better than Shield and The flash, but for some reason I like the ending sequnces to the other two much more. Reverse-flash and Firestorm alongside the rock breaking just do it much more for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 15, 2014, 09:43:32 PM
Arrow is just not doing it for me in S3. The freshman and sophmore efforts from The Flash an AoS are just doing it better.

Between Amell's 1 expression, Thea with the fighting irish stance and cartoon leap out the window screaming "Hammer Time" as she leaps, and the amateur sword fight against Ra's, it's all just so meh.

I really hope they get things going in the 2nd half, and I'm not sure how that's gonna play out since the next few episodes will be on Roy stepping up and then Laurel becoming Canary. with probably a background story of Ollie getting thrown in the Lazarus Pit, probably once they realize that he was lying about being Sarah's killer. The Glau effect has hit this show hard as far as I'm concerned, so I really hope Ra's become a major focus and a menacing threat.
Oh, and next time Ollie swings a sword at them, he should probably not swing 2 feet above the head if he intends to land that blow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on December 15, 2014, 09:53:17 PM
I just hate the roy flips.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 12:28:48 AM
That's signature Roy at his finest. An Arrow tradition at this point.
you're supposed to hate to laugh at him when he does it....

at least that's what I assume the producers were going for when he keeps doing it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 16, 2014, 01:15:19 AM
Arrow is just not doing it for me in S3. The freshman and sophmore efforts from The Flash an AoS are just doing it better.

Between Amell's 1 expression, Thea with the fighting irish stance and cartoon leap out the window screaming "Hammer Time" as she leaps, and the amateur sword fight against Ra's, it's all just so meh.

I really hope they get things going in the 2nd half, and I'm not sure how that's gonna play out since the next few episodes will be on Roy stepping up and then Laurel becoming Canary. with probably a background story of Ollie getting thrown in the Lazarus Pit, probably once they realize that he was lying about being Sarah's killer. The Glau effect has hit this show hard as far as I'm concerned, so I really hope Ra's become a major focus and a menacing threat.
Oh, and next time Ollie swings a sword at them, he should probably not swing 2 feet above the head if he intends to land that blow.

You know I am OK with that sword fight.  Look you are not going to get expert swordsmen and fighters for TV budget.  They needed to show Ra is a serious threat...someone that can defeat the Arrow.  And as far as stringing together an interesting coherent story, this series has done a very consistent job of telling believable stories.  Now, the fact the both Thea and Laurel appear to becoming skilled fighters in a short time is annoying, but is completely normal in the world of comic books and comic book series. 

I am curious who saves Oliver.  My bet originally was on Ra or a member of the League.  Ra already knew that Oliver didn't kill Sarah.  I think he accepted the challenge to prove a point...and bringing the Arrow back to life and having a more serious conversation the murder and the Dark Archer.  This season Oliver has to choose family or the Arrow, and I think he will choose family every time...and that is what causes the war with the assassins that is to come. 

But, I am still enjoying this season...it is not as good as last season, but it is still entertaining television.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 01:52:32 AM
I wasn't expecting black belt swordsmen or anything, just better choreographed sword play.
Based on previous fights Arrow was in, he seemed much more competent in melee combat, and what was show on that mountain top was more expected if Roy was in his place trying to take on Ra's, not Ollie.

They needs to show Ra's fast enough to dodge striking attacks from two swords while unarmed, while also unarming Ollie of one of his swords almost playfully, like it was not challenge, but they didn't need to make Ollie swing wildly off target hay makers on every swing.

They should have had him go for the swing, Ra's evade, and then maybe quick strikes to pressure points on his arms and shoulders, not disarming him at first, but showing that he can strike at will, and disarm when he is ready. On a second attempt by Ollie, I would have Ra's then block a strike, then pressure point on the shoulder and ribs, while snatching the sword out of that hand, with Ollie looking visibly frustrated and amazed that that just happened (I know it's hard for him to emote, but we'll do a few takes to see what we can piece together.). Have a bit of 1 on 1 sword play for a moment before Ra's dances around him, parry dodges, and has Ollie's his last remaining sword at his own throat.
That's when Ra's gets his cocky moment and Ollie does a quick wrist lock to snatch the sword back and attempt to strike at Ra's, but Ra's catches the sword (between two hands), kicks Ollie in the stomach and then throat chops him, disarming him once again as he falls to his knees, and the rest plays out as you would expect.


edit:  Basically show Ollie at his best getting bested, not show him at his absolute worst getting humiliated.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 16, 2014, 02:39:47 AM
That is all fair. 

I am just not going to be hyper critical...all of these shows have had silly moments like that...The Flash and the Super Sonic Punch was one too.  And I am sure even in this great season of Shield there have been some silly combat moments. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 04:11:29 AM
in AoS there was one I can think of. The May vs May fight.
May 2 didn't even look like she was trying to sweep the leg with the staff just before her head got slammed on the table.
Other than that, it's been an improvement over last season, so no real complaints.

The Flash has probably had a few as well, but other than the supersonic punch and the rapid fire vs The Arrow (that didn't even seem to phase him at all), I'm not remember anything to bad.

Arrow vs Ra's was just really sub par compared to almost every previous fight so it really stood out.
Ra's first fight against like 6 guys was much better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 16, 2014, 09:24:38 AM
In the end the Arrow fight was so jarring for BnM because Arrow had less gaffs than AoS or Flash in that area if I'm reading that right.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 01:00:23 PM
It's not really a comparison between shows. It's a comparison of previous fights in Arrow with the one against Ra's.
They were really out in the freezing cold, so I'm sure they wanted to do it as quickly as possible, but it was just a sub standard fight for even Arrow.

I'm sure they'll step it up in the 2nd half though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 16, 2014, 03:19:08 PM
just finished season 2 of Arrow, losing interest in this show. I am beginning to think these types of shows really can't go past one season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 16, 2014, 03:37:03 PM
2nd season was the best, but faltered in the final 3 episode finale. S3 hasn't really picked it back up yet either, but there are a few decent episodes, just nothing that even sniff's at S2 just yet though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on December 18, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Haven't seen it posted but Marco Polo (netflix) is turning out to be one helluva show. I'm halfway through season 1 (ep 5 of 10) and it really is wonderful television.  The one thing that sticks out is just how stunning the show looks. It appears Netflix spared no expense in the production of this show. I already like it as much as GoT at the same point it  that season. Plus it has NAKED KUNG FU!


Highly recommended
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 18, 2014, 08:17:10 PM
Gives extremely high hopes on Daredevil and the other 4 Marvel productions they are handling.

They are trying to challenge HBO when it comes to original content and quality after all. Gotta chase those Emmy's.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on December 18, 2014, 10:37:17 PM
Right Now, I would put Netflix and HBO neck and neck. I hope we get away from throwing random T&A into a show just because they can...AND as I type this "that" Game of War commercial comes on the TV.
(...boy I bet her sweat taste like champagne, vanilla and freedom!)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 18, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
I finished House of Cards a week or so ago. It's good though I find it difficult to follow most episodes' political stuff. I get the gist of Frank-needs-this-to-happen, but I don't understand a lot of the political maneuvering and specifically why Frank needs it to happen. I don't know what half the characters on the show do, what their titles are. It's strange how a character will show up in one episode, barely do anything, then be super-important a few episodes later. I suppose ultimately all you really need to know is by the end of season one Frank manipulated his way into the vice presidency and by the end of season two Frank manipulates his way into the presidency.

That said, I can see the show realistically going for at most two more seasons, including the upcoming season three in February. Frank has one year in his current role before the title of the show starts making sense. There are clear signs of Frank's apparently obvious downfall. Tom Hammerschmidt is still around and wasn't bullied like Janine. I have a feeling he's going to come back especially given the current status of Rachel Posner/Discount Eva Green. Liam McPoyle from It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia may pose a problem. That scene of him in the car with Nathan Green (that really douchey looking FBI agent) later in the season was one of my favorites in the show for reasons that I don't feel like tagging for spoilers. Personally, Frank taunting Martin Spinella was probably my absolute favorite.

I find almost every storyline revolving around Claire Underwood to be particularly boring and terrible. She's like the Daenerys Targaryen of House of Cards, except Daenerys at least has an end game. Claire's subplots just seem like they're there because a few episodes needed more conflict to fill the time quota.

Zoe Barnes' death was the biggest surprise for me. At first, I totally thought it was going to happen given the setting then the conversation made it seem like it wasn't and then it actually happened. That part happened so fast I had to pause the show and collect myself. It did kick off one of the more interesting subplots of the show even if Lucas Goodman is one of the least interesting characters. Still, it seems like it's eventually branching off into two subplots: whatever Liam McPoyle is up to and whatever Tom Hammerschmidt is up to. If the latter finds Rachel Posner, I can definitely see the pieces falling into place as the show moves toward the finale. That isn't a spoiler since it didn't happen. I'm just speculating.

Anyway, I feel like the show relies on coincidence far too much. Any setbacks Frank encounters are minor and he typically just wins all the time (besides the catalyst for basically everything that happens being a massive political loss). Even Walter White, despite how smart and manipulative he was, hit a few snags. Frank, for example, embarrassed himself on national television, but that barely affected or changed anything. The show is seemingly setting him up for a major fall, but I keep thinking the writers won't go down that road because it's so obvious. What if Frank just wins and is never held accountable for all his crimes? That would certainly be shocking despite so far, two straight seasons of Frank just generally having an A+ time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 19, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Thanks for reminding me about House of Cards. I need to finish that series before it all gets spoiled to me. I really enjoy all of the political intrigue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on December 20, 2014, 05:36:17 AM
is Downton Abby worth watching? I been getting mixed reviews from it, I am not sure exactly what it is supposed to be but it apparently pretty popular. I don't even know where it airs or streams so it might not be something to check out but I keep getting it recommended to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 20, 2014, 12:07:44 PM
I just finished Green Lantern on Netflix.

At first, the animation style was off putting, but then the story was intetesting enough to get over it rather quickly.
Too bad there wasn't a second season, but I was wondering why at the very end, if Razer really wanted to find Aya why didn't he just go to the Pink Lanterns and have them being her to him, or at least open the portal to where she is at.... Or maybe that was his first stop. Who knows since Netflix doesn't have a second season for me to watch.

Next in my list is either Clone Wars or Avengers Assemble, and I know everyone will suggest Clone Wars over AA, but has anyone actually watched AA? Is it any good at all? Is there a better suggestion or there?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on December 20, 2014, 10:53:18 PM
There is no 2nd season and Razer wasn't exactly on friendly terms with the Pink Lanterns.

I hate to say it but I'm sure I watched Avenger Assemble at some point but, I don't remember.  Clone Wars is a lot like Starship Troopers.  Its a little slow that way.  I'm not saying its bad but its just a good watch not much more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 22, 2014, 07:50:25 AM
I recently started Avatar: The Last Airbender. The animation isn't great, but this is an American cartoon so unless it's something like The Simpsons or Futurama, that's expected. Still, the animation isn't terrible. The colors are perhaps too bright.

The show is surprisingly not awful. I had low expectations since it's a Nickelodeon cartoon (and I haven't liked one of those in quite some time). It does, at times, seem to really want to be anime, but it, thankfully, doesn't get too crazy with anime-faces that I find overdone in actual anime.

The story is interesting enough to keep me watching. My brother said it doesn't get good until the middle of the first season which is where I am right now. He also said that I don't need to watch it to start The Legend of Korra, but I'd rather watch them in order and I don't believe it's on Amazon Prime anyway. I did pretty much figure out who Korra is after the third or fourth episode. Aang, Katara, and Sokka were looking at Avatar statues and saying how the Avatar is reborn in a different tribe on a cycle. I've only seen Korra wearing blue so that seemed pretty obvious. I don't think I'm the world's greatest detective for figuring that out. However, it's becoming pretty clear that, despite my best efforts, I might have some trouble avoiding things like that. I may have clicked the Korra thread a few times, but I've been avoiding it like the plague for a while now. Korra being the next Avatar is the only thing I current know about the follow-up show which I don't consider to be that major of a spoiler. In any case, my brother said the first season of The Legend of Korra is not very good and the second season is okay, but seasons three and four are excellent. At the rate I'm going, I should be finished Avatar: The Last Airbender around the first week of the new year.

I'd like to get a little further in Avatar: The Last Airbender before discussing plot and whatnot. However, I will say that the writers do a good job of addressing questions while not feeling obligated to divulge too much too soon such as Prince Zuko's scar. I like that they're letting the story play out naturally.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 22, 2014, 08:21:14 AM
Watching Avatar will give you no clues who Korra is...not really. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 22, 2014, 09:35:37 AM
I just explained that it did. My guess has already been verified.

Knowing who Korra is isn't that important since I'm still not aware of what she does and what happens. It has been a bit difficult to avoid spoilers lately on the Internet because some articles have flat-out mentioned major spoilers in the article title/description. I saw one where the name of who Korra fights at the end was right in the description. I don't remember who that was thankfully. Waiting so long to start shows certainly has some major disadvantages.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ObbyDent on December 22, 2014, 02:41:01 PM
The animation isn't great,

That's really funny. I almost thought you were being serious.

Let's hope you don't let what your brother had said ruin your enjoyment of Korra. If you don't look at it in the shadow of what came before it (A:tLA) then it's an amazing show worth your time.

All you need to know is that unlike Avatar (it was planned from the beginning to be a 3 season, 61 episode show), Korra was planned to be a 12 episode mini-series. Then after it was written and storyboarded, Nick increased it to a second season with 14 episodes. Then after THAT was written and storyboarded, they increased the episode count to another two seasons, each 13 episodes long. Then Nick decided to cut their budget for the last and final season. Just keep that in mind watching the show. It really is a fantastic sequel to what I consider to be the best animated American TV show of the last 30 years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on December 22, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
Ehh, the animation is okay. Maybe it gets better in later seasons. I'm on episode 13 or 14 of the first season and it's nothing to write home about. It's middle of the pack, not the best but far from the worst.

I plan on watching The Legend of Korra because it's there and my life is a big time waster. I've also heard good things about it. My brother has been trying to get me to watch at least The Legend of Korra so if anything, he's encouraged me to watch it. I asked him which he preferred, Avatar: The Last Airbender or The Legend of Korra, and he said collectively the latter is the better of the two based almost entirely on the last two seasons so they left quite an impression. Even with an apparently mediocre start, he still gave it the edge though he said he hasn't seen Avatar in a while. He lauded the story and the fighting in The Legend of Korra. I didn't ask him about the ending. Despite my attempts to avoid discussion of the ending, I've seen mostly polarizing views. I was lucky enough not to read spoilers, but from what I've read, people either loved it or hated it. Still, it was only a small sample size. I'll get there soon enough and post my thoughts in your thread.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 01, 2015, 01:06:40 AM
StarWars Rebels.

Barf mostly. Comprised of a bunch of SW tropes thrown on to a wall to see what sticks in a prequel like kid friendly package. It is horribly inconstant internally because of it. Also why have a fucking kid, kids, even teenagers ruin shows and he is a fucking Gary Sue. Uninspired CGI animation. Had a couple smirk worthy jokes. LOL at Agent Mutton Chops.

Avoiding like Ebola.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 01, 2015, 12:57:53 PM
I'm hoping that Rebels grows into something better as the series goes on. Clone Wars got better as it went on so there is hope. It just needs to find it's footing. Though I think Ahsohka Tano should be a lead role to better connect the shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on January 01, 2015, 02:57:08 PM
Clone Wars got better as it went on so there is hope.
I can't say about later seasons, but first two were pretty underwhelming and complete disservice to original Clone Wars series by Tartakovsky which was my favourite SW-related thing (outside of Jedi Academy games).

On Rebels -- i am not surprised that it's bad. Greg Weisman lost his marbles after his last good show (Spectacular-Spider-Man). It broke my heart seeing him turn to ****.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on January 01, 2015, 03:37:19 PM
Terrible Opinions all around I see.

3D clone Wars > 2D Clone Wars

Rebels is
StarWars Rebels.

Barf mostly. Comprised of a bunch of SW tropes thrown on to a wall to see what sticks in a prequel like kid friendly package. It is horribly inconstant internally because of it. Also why have a fucking kid, kids, even teenagers ruin shows and he is a fucking Gary Sue. Uninspired CGI animation. Had a couple smirk worthy jokes. LOL at Agent Mutton Chops.

Avoiding like Ebola.


Well Ezra is set to be the same age as luke once the timeline gets too ANH, also its a kids show and like Clone Wars with Asoka writers feel that the viewers need a POV character to help them along. Ezra is essentially that character, and for all the bitching about him, do none of you remember how insufferable Luke was in the first star wars film.

Now the CG overall is pretty terrible overall especially the way they use the same character models for big set pieces. There's a scene in empire day where you see the same 3D models right next to one another.

The newest episode Path of the Jedi was pretty good even if it plays into how big of a Mary Sue Ezra is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 01, 2015, 05:12:08 PM
Luke might have been a bit bitchy but they didn't give him "Character" by giving him an energy sling shot that does more damage than a fucking blaster or do super human feats 5 minutes into the show or has his own space needle full of adventures he already had. Luke aside from one character trait which he loses has nothing in common. Ezra is infinitely more punchable. Sure Luke blows up the Death Star, but he grew as a person first and by the end of the movie he was almost a different person who seen some serious ****. As ANH moves on the need for a audience surrogate disappears. ESB and ROTJ doesn't even have one. The obsessive need for a audience surrogate kills shows as they make the mistake of trying to relate the audience with someone so inherently unlikeable and/or badly written Gary Sues and not trusting the audience to make do without one.

It didn't help that any sort of tension they were going for gets tossed time and again with people standing out in the open during gunfights or having long chats while getting shot at near point blank range or having the Empire so staggeringly incompetent has to be almost a Loony Tunes cartoon. Agent Mutton Chops is so terrible in fact he doesn't seem much more than a lead in for more obviously "Villainous" looking characters.

Also **** force users, they ruin stories with Dragon Ball power escalation disease.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 04, 2015, 12:05:03 AM
So... Over the Garden Wall.

This was apparently a 10-part, 15 minute (11 after commercials), series on Cartoon Network during the time when DISH was in dispute with Turner, cutting me off from them.

They ran the entire series today (and are re-running it tomorrow).  It's nothing ground breaking or genre defining by any means, but it's a pretty fun story.  I'd throw money at them to release it on home video.

Set your DVRs to watch it tomorrow.  Cutting out the commercials, you're looking at about two hours, a good movie time. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 04, 2015, 12:08:55 AM
The X-Files Season One Episode One - I just started a two month trial on Hulu Plus and decided to go back and re-watch the entire series (not sure when I stopped watching), as well as the two movies (first one after season five, second one after the series ends) since I've never seen those. Awesome pilot for any series to start off with, this was my favorite show back in the day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on January 04, 2015, 08:13:33 PM
Wrestle Kingdom 9 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bN0mATOSW84) - Totally worth the $40 I paid for English commentary (Matt Striker and Good Ol' Jim Ross BAI GAWD). Opener was a spotfest, the other title manages had me freaking out for the punishment these guys were taking, and the semi-main is the best match I've seen for an Intercontinental championship since Savage/Steamboat. Only complaint is some of the booking - I really wanted the young gun Okada to win in the main event - but the storylines out of it have me intrigued.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 05, 2015, 05:28:37 PM
I just watched the Doctor Who special where he meets his self from the Time War and David Tennent and they do something really ambitious even for this series. I also watched the Christmas special right after but so Hulu doesn't have the current seasons so I haven't gotten any more caught up than that. The special was pretty good the Christmas episode was alright but not that great, average as far as Christmas specials go.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 05, 2015, 11:05:34 PM
This years wasn't bad but there was an obviously unplanned twist.  Someone must have a change of contract while this was filming because its not how it should be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 06, 2015, 05:02:23 PM
Gotham came back with a decent episode last night, Ivy of all the charaters actually had a good moment, Barbara continues to fail at life, and Arkham was sufficiently creepy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2015, 06:21:40 PM
Gotham came back with a decent episode last night, Ivy of all the charaters actually had a good moment, Barbara continues to fail at life, and Arkham was sufficiently creepy.

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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 06, 2015, 06:27:03 PM
I just watched the Doctor Who special where he meets his self from the Time War and David Tennent and they do something really ambitious even for this series. I also watched the Christmas special right after but so Hulu doesn't have the current seasons so I haven't gotten any more caught up than that. The special was pretty good the Christmas episode was alright but not that great, average as far as Christmas specials go.

I love the character of Doctor Who, but I just always feel let down by the writing and style of the show.  It's like it tries to be Science Fiction, but it is more Adventure/horror...the jumps in logic and twists are sometimes compelling, but usually have one element that ruins it for me. 

I think I liked Davies direction better than Moffat's.  Moffat's a good storyteller sometimes, and he can play with twisting a theme but, actually, I feel his seasons always end lackluster with nothing special really done. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 06, 2015, 07:58:35 PM
Oooh! Gotham's back!


My wife and I latched onto the show Grimm. Pretty neat first season. I like the premise and it feels more compelling that Supernatural did for a fairy tale monster hunting show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 06, 2015, 08:27:31 PM
Grimm is ok, but the stupid names for the "vessen" are silly and impossible to remember.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 07, 2015, 04:08:05 AM
I just watched the Doctor Who special where he meets his self from the Time War and David Tennent and they do something really ambitious even for this series. I also watched the Christmas special right after but so Hulu doesn't have the current seasons so I haven't gotten any more caught up than that. The special was pretty good the Christmas episode was alright but not that great, average as far as Christmas specials go.

I love the character of Doctor Who, but I just always feel let down by the writing and style of the show.  It's like it tries to be Science Fiction, but it is more Adventure/horror...the jumps in logic and twists are sometimes compelling, but usually have one element that ruins it for me. 

I think I liked Davies direction better than Moffat's.  Moffat's a good storyteller sometimes, and he can play with twisting a theme but, actually, I feel his seasons always end lackluster with nothing special really done. 



I agree but in the opposite direction. RTD was the better showrunner (basic season arcs with fun ideas), but Moffat was consistently the best writer throughout his tenure. Moffat's era feels a bit too twisty turny (except for, finally, someone acknowledging that time travel affects plots!) and too complicated for its own good at times.

The reveal in Deep Breath that the 11th Doctor called Clara during the 50th anniversary special into the future to tell her that the 12th Doctor is *still* the Doctor and to trust him is the kind of thing that Moffat does very well. Long arcs like that simply never happened during RTD's era.

Also, i'm convinced we will see River Song again eventually - The Doctor hasnt given her the sonic screwdriver yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 07, 2015, 04:33:45 AM
The Good Wife.

Just started season 2, and damn, I like this show. Nothing like what I thought it was gonna be about from the title, and I more or less went in blind on any actual details of what it was actually about.

but a quick summary is that it focuses mostly on a woman, mother of 2, whose husband is forced to resign from his political post due to scandal, and forces her back into the work place as a lawyer. It then continues to focus on how she balances her family life, husbands political connections and her eagerness to revive her law career and stand on her own 2 feet as a success in her own right.

and can I just say that even if you don't find Kalinda as the hottest woman on TV, goddamn is she fucking sexy. She is pretty, but her demeanor and willingness to get it done is just so hot.

definite good watch. recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 07, 2015, 09:36:36 AM
I dunno RTD had some long story arc ideas as well.  I like what he did with the Master better.  The Face a Bo and Jack, and when he brought characters back they felt like they had been existing and living for awhile and naturally came back. 

But I guess I wasn't down for the convoluted storytelling…nothing wrong with it.  But when you build up an event where you think the person is dead and only to find out none of it happened…kinda is a sucker punch…and not a good. one.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 07, 2015, 09:46:01 AM

I love the character of Doctor Who, but I just always feel let down by the writing and style of the show.  It's like it tries to be Science Fiction, but it is more Adventure/horror...

That's how Dr. Who is.  That's not new to the new tenure.  I'm liking this season more than the others because they were very stuck in the Cyberman/Dalek paradigm.  While this one is moving to the more traditional Dr.Who.  Which I enjoy.  I wouldn't mind if they brought back 3 episode story arcs.

Though I do not like how they have done the last few companions.  Making them more love interests than companion really.


They really need to get away from Earth though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on January 07, 2015, 08:55:26 PM

I love the character of Doctor Who, but I just always feel let down by the writing and style of the show.  It's like it tries to be Science Fiction, but it is more Adventure/horror...

That's how Dr. Who is.  That's not new to the new tenure.  I'm liking this season more than the others because they were very stuck in the Cyberman/Dalek paradigm.  While this one is moving to the more traditional Dr.Who.  Which I enjoy.  I wouldn't mind if they brought back 3 episode story arcs.

Though I do not like how they have done the last few companions.  Making them more love interests than companion really.


They really need to get away from Earth though.


They really need to get away from Earth though.
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I would love an idea just being explored to the fullest, because right now I feel like they don't explore it enough.

If you have a 12 episode season that would allow you to do 3 or 4 big stories that expand and grow and have real consequences and once a story is finished move to another story.  Basically being able to tell a movie like story instead of a TV series like story. 

And yes get away from Earth more...or at least do more future or historical Earth.  All of Time and Space...and we are stuck on Earth...boring. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 08, 2015, 03:39:54 AM
Person of Interest:

What a stunning episode to start 2015. That was probably the best the series has ever done.

Playfully witty sign off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 08, 2015, 09:40:15 AM
Watched Agent Carter last night.  I missed it the day before.  I enjoyed it.  Definitely a period piece.  I need to look up the writers but I have a suspicion on them.

It does a good job being of that time until something little slips through the crack, modern stapler for example.  I'm hoping though they finish up the current arc very fast and move on to her founding S.H.I.E.L.D.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 08, 2015, 12:46:18 PM
Supposedly the founding of SHIELD will not be within this series, but there is a possibility of a second series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 08, 2015, 03:23:37 PM
That be a waste.  There is a lot of good material from getting that all together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 08, 2015, 03:48:24 PM
This series supposedly ends where the one shot begins.
A second series may pick up after that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 08, 2015, 03:57:35 PM
I was wondering where the One-Shot was in the timeline.  Hopefully there will be a second.  There is a lot of interesting things to do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 09, 2015, 01:50:38 AM
Got on to the Person Of Interest train late, but wow, this is good ****. I have watched season 1, starting on 2. The writing is exemplary. Completely opposite from JJ style. Its coherent, smart, integrated, full of tension without getting strobe light flashy. omg Amy Acker! I love her already but damn she is awesome. Bear is a great addition. Jim Caviezel initially seemed like a second choice to Christain Bale who clearly too good for TV, but he really made it his own. The rest of the cast and characters are fantastic and poor Fusco.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 10, 2015, 04:05:43 PM
Just started Agents of Shield finished maybe the fourth or fifth episode. It's alright it could be better but I am liking it for the most part. I recorded Agent Carter on the DVR but haven't watched it yet. At first I thought it was just going to be a Heroes rip off but its much better than Heroes so far. Not better than what Heroes was when it was brand new but better considered the bar has been raised since Heroes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 10, 2015, 10:05:41 PM
Just started Agents of Shield finished maybe the fourth or fifth episode. It's alright it could be better but I am liking it for the most part. I recorded Agent Carter on the DVR but haven't watched it yet. At first I thought it was just going to be a Heroes rip off but its much better than Heroes so far. Not better than what Heroes was when it was brand new but better considered the bar has been raised since Heroes.
If your comparing AoS to Heroes your in for a treat.  Unlike heroes it gets better over time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 13, 2015, 01:42:27 PM
I just finished watching Serial Experiments Lain for the first time and...I honestly have no idea what I just watched, but whatever it was it was confusing; boring; and terrible. Usually with series like this, there's some sort of "through line", a basic storyline you can follow even if the deeper-level stuff flies over your head, but this series? This just felt like random **** thrown together with no semblance of order or interest in telling a story. Stuff just happens the entire series with no rhyme or reason...until it doesn't, because Lain's some mystical digital god...until she isn't...except when she is. Bah...this show is widely acclaimed, and I have no idea why.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2015, 06:38:56 PM
I finished The Good Wife Season 2 yesterday.

I'm hopelessly hooked on this show right now. I have 3+ seasons to go to catch up to current, and I have a HUGE list of shows returning to the air in the next few weeks, so I don't know how I'm supposed to watch everything.

Season 2 ended on such a good note with Will and Alicia finally hooking up, but every sign saying that they shouldn't. from the desk clerk not attending to them, to all the people in the lobby looking at them, to their being no available rooms.... except the most expensive room in the hotel. Then the elevator being full, the next elevator having most of the buttons pushed, to the room key not working once they finally got up there. It was like everything was against them, yet they were determined to make it happen anyway.

anyway, recommended TV to anyone looking to marathon something on Amazon Prime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 21, 2015, 02:24:00 AM
As proof my TV backlog rivals my gaming one, I just finally got around to finishing season 4 of Community. It started slow, and that and overwhelmingly negative impressions caused me to fall away from it and focus on other things, but I went back to it lately and I have to say I thought it was pretty good. Maybe not as good as what came before it, but that's an incredibly high bar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 21, 2015, 09:08:11 AM
Just when you think you have figured out Person of Interest it throws you another curve ball. They really don't make shows like this with so much moral ambiguity. Multi-dimensional, multi-faceted characters who you hate yet have redeeming elements or love in spite of the numerous flaws that should make them a villain. It is a amazingly coherent show even with all its complexity and moving parts. While mysteries are abound, there are just as many answers.

Not only is this show the anti-JJ, it raises the bar for everyone else. I am not sure if POI has ever had a bad episode which should be impossible. May the impossible continue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 21, 2015, 10:39:26 AM
State of the Union - 10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 21, 2015, 01:13:17 PM
State of the Union - 10/10

"I won both of them" :: drops mic ::
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 21, 2015, 01:46:58 PM
While I loved that part, and I really did -it was the moment of the night- it does seem to undermine his "less petty, more substance" appeal to congress.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 21, 2015, 05:14:58 PM
Just when you think you have figured out Person of Interest it throws you another curve ball. They really don't make shows like this with so much moral ambiguity. Multi-dimensional, multi-faceted characters who you hate yet have redeeming elements or love in spite of the numerous flaws that should make them a villain. It is a amazingly coherent show even with all its complexity and moving parts. While mysteries are abound, there are just as many answers.

Not only is this show the anti-JJ, it raises the bar for everyone else. I am not sure if POI has ever had a bad episode which should be impossible. May the impossible continue.

Northern Lights and Samaritan is the ultimate character - the unending plot device, source of mystery and constant development.

The sad thing is its procedural shell - and being on CBS - has thrown people off pretty hard. It started as a police procedural, then quickly evolved into the introduction of artificial intelligence in the use of national security and domestic terrorism.

I'm still waiting for any other show to even attempt something as ambitious post-Fringe but totally nail it (unlike Fringe, in parts).

Also, oohhboy note that JJ has *absolutely nothing* to do with Person of Interest. It's his production company and he gets an exec producer credit. That's all. Jonah Nolan (brother of Chris Nolan) is the force behind it. If Interstellar was expanded into a series instead, this is the potential.

The Flash, meanwhile, is having far too much fun with its format. Knowingly cheesy and very well balanced through its serialised elements and recurring characters and personal lives. More please.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 21, 2015, 07:11:33 PM
I know that JJ company just funds, its why I made a note of it. POI looks at what JJ has done and says, **** that, we can do far better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 21, 2015, 08:43:08 PM
Just when you think you have figured out Person of Interest it throws you another curve ball. They really don't make shows like this with so much moral ambiguity. Multi-dimensional, multi-faceted characters who you hate yet have redeeming elements or love in spite of the numerous flaws that should make them a villain. It is a amazingly coherent show even with all its complexity and moving parts. While mysteries are abound, there are just as many answers.

Not only is this show the anti-JJ, it raises the bar for everyone else. I am not sure if POI has ever had a bad episode which should be impossible. May the impossible continue.

There are plenty of shows like that, but they're usually almost exclusively on cable. To get this on a network, and CBS no less, is remarkable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 24, 2015, 07:15:36 AM
Finally caught up to the latest episodes of POI and it is wonderful. This show is really, really good and I would universally recommend it to everyone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on January 24, 2015, 09:17:08 AM
Wish there was a good way to watch all of it legally on Prime, Netflix, or Hulu.  Would really like to but I want to start from the beginning.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 24, 2015, 11:08:51 AM
Wish there was a good way to watch all of it legally on Prime, Netflix, or Hulu.  Would really like to but I want to start from the beginning.

Get a UK VPN - i know season 1 and 2 at least are here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 24, 2015, 06:29:56 PM
so I been watching Friends on Netflix, shut up I like it, and its the syndicated versions of the episodes not the ones that are on the DVD's. I hate this why did I sell my DVD's Netflix is stupid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on January 28, 2015, 05:39:41 PM
Man, I hope all comedy writers and showrunners are watching the last season of Parks and Recreation. This is how you do a final season. The idea to jump ahead into the future is one of the best decisions I can think of in order to keep things fresh. It allows them to put all these characters in new concepts and places and find new things to do with them. As well as make jokes about the possible future.

I'm surprised the land situation seems to be wrapped up before we've even gotten to the middle of the season. Especially as it was a rather interesting and more difficult situation to solve than Leslie has normally faced. Of course, there could be some more obstacles on it yet but if the writers were willing to wrap up that storyline so quickly, I wonder what they might have planned for the rest of the season that they want to move on to.

Hopefully, it involves another session of The Perdple's Court. And where's Jean-Ralphio? What's happened to him during these years and his sister who is THE WOOOOOOORRRRRSSSSTTTTTT? After a middling season 6, this show is back on top again with energy and inventiveness that made it such a top comedy for so long.

The only disappointment I have is not having flashbacks showing how terrible Jon Hamm's character was at his job to be worse than Terry. It was an idea they floated around at the end of last season and when this season began, Jon Hamm made another cameo at the start, I was hopeful that they went through with that idea but they deem to have decided on no flashbacks at all. Oh well.

It's just nice to have Parks and Recreation as my number one show to watch each week again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 29, 2015, 08:04:45 PM
watched first episode of Agent Carter, not what I expected think I will pass on this. Also watched America: The Story of US on Netflix, it started out pretty strong and fizzled towards the end. I liked it but it didn't live up to the hype.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 29, 2015, 08:13:22 PM
watched first episode of Agent Carter, not what I expected think I will pass on this. Also watched America: The Story of US on Netflix, it started out pretty strong and fizzled towards the end. I liked it but it didn't live up to the hype.

as a Marvel fan, I would suggest waiting another 2 weeks, and then Marathon them right up to the AoS start in beginning of March. Just incase there is an actual tie-in to AoS, AoU or any other MCU related show/movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on January 30, 2015, 04:47:03 PM
watched first episode of Agent Carter, not what I expected think I will pass on this. Also watched America: The Story of US on Netflix, it started out pretty strong and fizzled towards the end. I liked it but it didn't live up to the hype.

as a Marvel fan, I would suggest waiting another 2 weeks, and then Marathon them right up to the AoS start in beginning of March. Just incase there is an actual tie-in to AoS, AoU or any other MCU related show/movie.

I will give it a couple more episodes but I want to get through Season One of Shield before I  watch anything else new. I am up to episode 8 and its getting much better than it started out as. I really like the two British scientists, which means they will probably get killed off before too long thats how my luck always is with these shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 30, 2015, 05:19:08 PM
watched first episode of Agent Carter, not what I expected think I will pass on this. Also watched America: The Story of US on Netflix, it started out pretty strong and fizzled towards the end. I liked it but it didn't live up to the hype.

as a Marvel fan, I would suggest waiting another 2 weeks, and then Marathon them right up to the AoS start in beginning of March. Just incase there is an actual tie-in to AoS, AoU or any other MCU related show/movie.

I will give it a couple more episodes but I want to get through Season One of Shield before I  watch anything else new. I am up to episode 8 and its getting much better than it started out as. I really like the two British scientists, which means they will probably get killed off before too long thats how my luck always is with these shows.

FitzSimmons.... or rather Fitz and Simmons.
and yes, the show gets better in the second half, so keep pushing though them.
The 2nd season has been nothing but good episodes so far, and a HUGE improvement over what you've seen so far in S1, and a nice improvement still over what you are about to see leading up to the end of S1.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 04, 2015, 01:30:27 AM
I don't know if its life changes, me getting older, or just school has me burned out but nothing has been any good lately. I didn't care for the last two episodes of Gotham and am starting to get bored with that. I couldn't bring myself to watch Agent Carter again, and I already am losing interest in Agents of Shield. I gave up on Arrow and Flash earlier this season and I am not even slightly interested in Walking Dead at all anymore.

I didn't even really enjoy the current Last man Standing, a show I typically love. But I did see a preview for two new shows I am interested in that I hope will turn out to be okay. The first is that new Fresh off the boat, it looks like it could be funny. The other show I already forgot the name I will have to check the DVR and see if I can find that commercial again I think I saw the preview for it during either Gotham or Last Man Standing so it could be Fox or ABC.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 04, 2015, 02:33:50 AM
Try a more mature show.

Watch:
The Wire
The Shield
The Good Wife
Breaking Bad

Or take a break from TV shows and catch up on movies instead. Lots of TV shows are much better when you can just marathon through seasons of them in short periods of time.

Everything listed above will give you at least 4-5 good seasons to run through. The only one still airing is The Good Wife in its 6th season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 04, 2015, 03:10:07 AM
Try a more mature show.

Watch:
The Wire
The Shield
The Good Wife
Breaking Bad

Or take a break from TV shows and catch up on reading instead.

FTFy
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 05, 2015, 02:09:13 AM
OMG @ It's Always Sunny tonite.  Charlie's Work was fucking HILARIOUS.

the last 2 episodes before that (especially ep 2) was also pretty funny, so this season is off to a really good start. But tonites episode had me fucking rollin. Charlie is like the idiot genius working his magic with his idiot crew, and you don't even know how incredible it is until the whole thing is over.

I'm still laughing just thinking about some of the **** that went down in this episode. I'm not even gonna put anything in spoilers, because I'd rather you go in blind. Just go watch it. now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 05, 2015, 09:33:40 AM
The Tonight Show - Infinity/10 because of this:

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 05, 2015, 03:21:07 PM
OMG @ It's Always Sunny tonite.  Charlie's Work was fucking HILARIOUS

That was a perfect episode. I wasn't laughing the entire time, but I was excited and just plain interested in every scene. One of the best things I've seen on TV.

Funniest part is Dennis sweating profusely behind the bar, anxiously saying "Alright, alright, alright" one last time.

Either that or Charlie calling Dee a bitch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 05, 2015, 06:06:18 PM
OMG @ It's Always Sunny tonite.  Charlie's Work was fucking HILARIOUS

That was a perfect episode. I wasn't laughing the entire time, but I was excited and just plain interested in every scene. One of the best things I've seen on TV.

Funniest part is Dennis sweating profusely behind the bar, anxiously saying "Alright, alright, alright" one last time.

Either that or Charlie calling Dee a bitch.

both of those, and Frank painted black in the basement with the little flute doing the sounds for the carbon monoxide detector.

and then the pay off at the end as to why he kept slamming the bar stool. "that's how you make a joke stool".

it was all just so good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 06, 2015, 02:58:22 AM
It suddenly dawned on me about Person of Interest a key question was being asked quietly: what happens when an invisible superhero goes up against an invisible supervillain?

And what will happen when Root goes on her inevitable yet still sexy dual-gun wielding emotion fueled rampage?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on February 06, 2015, 09:34:17 PM
It suddenly dawned on me about Person of Interest a key question was being asked quietly: what happens when an invisible superhero goes up against an invisible supervillain?

And what will happen when Root goes on her inevitable yet still sexy dual-gun wielding emotion fueled rampage?
Awesomeness that what. Also very, very very scary.

If they ever went head to head there will be a lot of collateral damage. Its the most likely reason that The Machine didn't seek out and engage by itself when it had the chance. The Machine doesn't really do sacrificial moves with innocents.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Caliban on February 07, 2015, 12:02:21 AM
OMG @ It's Always Sunny tonite.  Charlie's Work was fucking HILARIOUS

That was a perfect episode. I wasn't laughing the entire time, but I was excited and just plain interested in every scene. One of the best things I've seen on TV.

Funniest part is Dennis sweating profusely behind the bar, anxiously saying "Alright, alright, alright" one last time.

Either that or Charlie calling Dee a bitch.

both of those, and Frank painted black in the basement with the little flute doing the sounds for the carbon monoxide detector.

and then the pay off at the end as to why he kept slamming the bar stool. "that's how you make a joke stool".

it was all just so good.

I think this is one of their best written episodes, or at least it took a lot of planning. It was fun to watch from beginning to end.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 07, 2015, 05:18:36 PM
If Arrow is going to have Merlyn and Thea sparring, then they really have to do a better job of hiding the obvious stunt double in place of Thea's actress for those scenes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 07, 2015, 07:05:09 PM
You know, I guess I just don't care.  I watch to enjoy the show.  I don't care if I notice the stunt doubles or not.  I will say the season isn't as strong as season 2, but it is fun.  They are trying to build the world and some of the things are working, and some of it not so much.  Thea being able to fight so quickly isn't working for me.  I really hate how television makes it seem easy to become a master anything.  Even if she studied night and day for an entire year she would not be that good. 

That said, you obviously have to accelerate training and just accept that, so you can move forward with the story.  Though, the funny thing is, they are showing what I am saying with Laurel because she keeps getting her butt handed to her.  I just hope they actually give her the real "meta-human" Canary Cry eventually, and not just some toy device.  I don't care how they give it to her, but Meta-humans exist in that universe, and I want my Black Canary to be accurate. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 07, 2015, 07:28:48 PM
I've never noticed a stunt double before so that illusion has held up for me.

I will say that I noticed myself laughing a lot more in the latest episode of Arrow and not at any bits of comedy they've put in but just at some of the absolute ridiculousness of things.

The biggest problem with Arrow season 3 is execution. The show actually has a lot of really interesting plotlines and material to work with but it is failing in it's delivery of the material. Either it is messing up in the set-up of situations or when it does a good job of set-up and raising the stakes, it then stumbles on the pay-off.

I'm wondering if this is a result of the executive producers being more focused on getting The Flash series going and backing off from Arrow and letting others manage it. If so, I now worry if The Flash will end up having these same problems next year with the Supergirl series premiering under the same producer team.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 07, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
Arrow has failed this season.

If I wasn't so invested, I would just put aside Arrow S3 till it's over and only watch The Flash for now.

Thea's training. Oliver's survival and recovery, his fight with Ra's, the fact that Chief Lance will call out Roy with the quickness, but maintain "plausible deniability" with Oliver/Arrow, Diggle ops to stay at base of operations and let Laurel of all people go out on patrol in his place during Ollie's absence.... it's all so stupid.

Not to mention Ollie returning on Live TV, yet not wanting Ra's to find out he is alive.... but wanting time to train with Merlyn so that he can defeat Ra's....
if Merlyn was that good, why wouldn't he just challenge Ra's himself? oh yeah, he's smart enough to send dumbass Ollie in his place... let him make it his fight.

Season 3 is suffering from the Glau effect, but I hope it recovers soon, because this season so far has been garbage. easily trounced by the likes of Agents of SHIELD, The Flash and Gotham (in that order). That is a mighty fall from grace at the top of the lot. But there was a lot less competition last season (s2 was excellent up until the last 3 eps.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 07, 2015, 09:13:26 PM
Agree on your Arrow thoughts, though we are behind a few episodes. It petered out when we started Agents of Shield and we have not felt motivated to return yet. Those last three from last season could have been better if they had given up on the whole "flash backs" and then never looked back. It was great first season and for the first half of the second season but now it is just a silly excuse at padding and staying to true to "the formula" the first two seasons setup.


Gotham is great and we will get rolling on Walking Dead soon. We'll finish the season but that last death in December really put a bad taste in our mouths for the series. Too much build up that first half and way too little pay-off for the amount of development and time spent on it. I thought this season was supposed to be a "back to the basics we loved" for the series? When Game of Thrones starts up we may just ditch both Arrow and TWD. Good time for me to get my wife into Flash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 08, 2015, 05:09:06 PM
Arrow has failed this season.

If I wasn't so invested, I would just put aside Arrow S3 till it's over and only watch The Flash for now.

Thea's training. Oliver's survival and recovery, his fight with Ra's, the fact that Chief Lance will call out Roy with the quickness, but maintain "plausible deniability" with Oliver/Arrow, Diggle ops to stay at base of operations and let Laurel of all people go out on patrol in his place during Ollie's absence.... it's all so stupid.

Not to mention Ollie returning on Live TV, yet not wanting Ra's to find out he is alive.... but wanting time to train with Merlyn so that he can defeat Ra's....
if Merlyn was that good, why wouldn't he just challenge Ra's himself? oh yeah, he's smart enough to send dumbass Ollie in his place... let him make it his fight.

Season 3 is suffering from the Glau effect, but I hope it recovers soon, because this season so far has been garbage. easily trounced by the likes of Agents of SHIELD, The Flash and Gotham (in that order). That is a mighty fall from grace at the top of the lot. But there was a lot less competition last season (s2 was excellent up until the last 3 eps.)

I will agree they  have made some missteps.  However, I will say you are being little hard on the show.

1)  I don't think Ollie was on national TV.  The Glades had been cleared of police I think it was probably cleared of media as well.  He was rallying the people.  However, the other side is that Ollie could just assume the League would already find out about him...after all training to be a master only takes like less than a year anyway...look at Thea.

(Thea is the biggest misstep I see this season.  I know why they are doing it...but it just looks stupid.)

2)Laurel is stubborn and was going to go out there anyway.  Should Diggle have gone instead or with the team...but perhaps Laurel didn't know how to properly use the system to help on the backend.  At any rate they needed to get her into the action because it is destiny to get her in the action.  Brick was a minor enough villain to do it with.

(What I don't truly understand is the Dark Archers motives.  I know he lies all the time and can't be trusted, and I actually liked his tragic backstory, however, the whole idea of forcing the Arrow to go after Raj Al Ghul was insanely stupid.  Now Thea, him, and Ollie are in the cross hairs...but really it goes back to just him.)

But my biggest complaint I have is Ollie should have come back to life from the Lazurus Pit.  I know they like to keep the Supernatural and Super Hero stuff out of Arrow, but if you bring a character like Raj Al Ghul, you should bring all of him.  How cool would it have been to just jump a couple of months.  Have Black Canary and Arsenal with the Atom protecting the city...and Ollie comes back crazy from the Pit and a villain.  Only to find out through flashbacks that his mind isn't entirely gone, but made a deal with Raj Al Ghul after his resurrection...to kill the Dark Arrow.

His team goes against him instead of agreeing, and he is pulled back into the good side.  That would have been an epic season 3.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 08, 2015, 05:11:59 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 08, 2015, 05:37:12 PM
All of the women on Arrow (the primary ones at least) are used for emotional beats (Sarah, Laurel, FELICITY! etc) but the male ones (Diggle's brother, Tommy) is just "oh ok" and quickly forgotten.

I've felt since season two that the show has been spinning its wheels and just not "doing" very well. In comparison, Person of Interest at this point had just torn down HR and THAT arc was simply incredible
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2015, 06:50:23 PM
Arrow has failed this season.

If I wasn't so invested, I would just put aside Arrow S3 till it's over and only watch The Flash for now.

Thea's training. Oliver's survival and recovery, his fight with Ra's, the fact that Chief Lance will call out Roy with the quickness, but maintain "plausible deniability" with Oliver/Arrow, Diggle ops to stay at base of operations and let Laurel of all people go out on patrol in his place during Ollie's absence.... it's all so stupid.

Not to mention Ollie returning on Live TV, yet not wanting Ra's to find out he is alive.... but wanting time to train with Merlyn so that he can defeat Ra's....
if Merlyn was that good, why wouldn't he just challenge Ra's himself? oh yeah, he's smart enough to send dumbass Ollie in his place... let him make it his fight.

Season 3 is suffering from the Glau effect, but I hope it recovers soon, because this season so far has been garbage. easily trounced by the likes of Agents of SHIELD, The Flash and Gotham (in that order). That is a mighty fall from grace at the top of the lot. But there was a lot less competition last season (s2 was excellent up until the last 3 eps.)

I will agree they  have made some missteps.  However, I will say you are being little hard on the show.

1)  I don't think Ollie was on national TV.  The Glades had been cleared of police I think it was probably cleared of media as well.  He was rallying the people.  However, the other side is that Ollie could just assume the League would already find out about him...after all training to be a master only takes like less than a year anyway...look at Thea.

(Thea is the biggest misstep I see this season.  I know why they are doing it...but it just looks stupid.)

2)Laurel is stubborn and was going to go out there anyway.  Should Diggle have gone instead or with the team...but perhaps Laurel didn't know how to properly use the system to help on the backend.  At any rate they needed to get her into the action because it is destiny to get her in the action.  Brick was a minor enough villain to do it with.

(What I don't truly understand is the Dark Archers motives.  I know he lies all the time and can't be trusted, and I actually liked his tragic backstory, however, the whole idea of forcing the Arrow to go after Raj Al Ghul was insanely stupid.  Now Thea, him, and Ollie are in the cross hairs...but really it goes back to just him.)

But my biggest complaint I have is Ollie should have come back to life from the Lazurus Pit.  I know they like to keep the Supernatural and Super Hero stuff out of Arrow, but if you bring a character like Raj Al Ghul, you should bring all of him.  How cool would it have been to just jump a couple of months.  Have Black Canary and Arsenal with the Atom protecting the city...and Ollie comes back crazy from the Pit and a villain.  Only to find out through flashbacks that his mind isn't entirely gone, but made a deal with Raj Al Ghul after his resurrection...to kill the Dark Arrow.

His team goes against him instead of agreeing, and he is pulled back into the good side.  That would have been an epic season 3.


1) I believe he was on Local News making a speech about his return to Starling City. That's national enough once it hits the circuit. If everyone doesn't know his identity by the end of the next news cycle, then everyone is an idiot.
Thea being that good in a matter of months is just ridiculous. Her jumping off that balcony was even more ridiculous. and the obvious stunt double during training is more than obvious.

2) Laurel wants to go out on patrol? fine, but Diggle should have been out there supervising both Arsenal and Canary as the are both rookies. He should have done it in the green hood (or the black ski mask), and Felicity doesn't need him to help coordinate GPS locations for missions. Laurel was on the verge of getting herself killed and or jeopardizing the mission every time she went out. She needed a mentor/trainer on scene to direct her actions and watch her back.

*SPOILER*
As far as Merlyn befriending Thea to brainwash her into killing Sarah so that he could force Ollie to go face Ra's in his place was incredibly stupid. Just as stupid as him thinking Ollie even had a chance of beating Ra's in hand to hand combat, when Merlyn knew that Ollie couldn't even beat him. It just doesn't make much sense.

The Lazarus Pit most certainly should have been used in some form or fashion. Even if it was bottled into a less potent cocktail that his friend could use to nurse him back to health. They also should have had a time jump of several month of Brick terrorizing Starling or Central City (I forget which one they are in) which was overwhelming Diggle and Arsenal which is why they let Laurel out into the field. Throw in some training montages of Laurel with Wildcat, and Laurel with Diggle and Arsenal. and then eventually have Ollie make his triumphant return to take the credit for everyone elses unification and defeat of the Brick gang on Live TV.

actually, I would have had Ollie secretly return and train with Merlyn while helping Team Arrow from the shadows before revealing himself to be alive to not only the team, but the rest of the damn city.

this season is just far below what I've expected over the previous 2 seasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 08, 2015, 07:16:53 PM
these are all the reasons I quite watching Arrow. It was doing great when Season 2 started then mid-season it turned to ****. Now they realized its **** so someone flushed it down the toiled and there is no going back now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 08, 2015, 08:42:33 PM
I enjoy popcorn, and I agree that the show is less believable.  I remember watching season 2 and thinking...it is definitely comic book melodrama, but I didn't believe the characters made stupid decisions...they seemed pretty smart...and that included all the villains and heroes.  With only one or two things that were silly.

But, season 3 does have many questionable decisions.  I would have liked Ollie been more honest with Ra's...it would have been more interesting. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 08, 2015, 10:09:15 PM
I think in the end Season 2 caused more problems for the Arrow than the writers realized until they started the 3rd Season.  Introducing Meta-Humans messes with the Arrow dynamic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 09, 2015, 01:15:57 AM
I disagree Ceric.  Introducing Meta-humans doesn't ruin the dynamic.  The problem is that the Arrow series wants to be like the Nolan Batman films, and have everything be plausible.  I say Flash has shown that you can have both. 

The Flash embraces its comic heritage...and I think Arrow would do well to incorporate some of that.  For instance.  I was OK with the first Black Canary having a sonic device, because there were two Black Canaries in the comic and one did not have a meta power.  But I want Black Canary to have her true Canary call. 

You can do a careful balance between the two.  You just obviously need to be careful which meta humans you have Green Arrow fighting...but it would be nice to see more trick Arrows as well.  Especially, when the Arrow is trying a no kill policy.  Tazer or Electric Arrows, Gas Arrows, and such wouldn't be a bad start.  Perhaps Ollie can get his money or research facility back if the Atom teams up with him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 09, 2015, 01:22:39 AM
I disagree entirely with Spak here, the appeal of Arrow at first was how it didn't feel like a comic book show now that is out the window its no longer believable its turned into soap opera and thats not a good place to go. Soon enough it'll become power rangers and thats even worse. Flash didn't have that far to go but it started out ridiculous so it was built in Arrow started out realistic and serious and fell into eye rolling mid way through season 2 and never looked back. I think Arrow is now where Heroes was at the same juncture, dead but nobody on board wants to accept it is dead. The basically killed the show with that season 2 ending.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2015, 01:48:01 AM
end of S2 was bad, but they could have recovered. Meta-humans wasn't the problem. I think the irony of it all is that The Flash and Arrow are by the same people, yet all focus at the moment is likely on The Flash, and Arrow took a backburner as far everything goes for S3.

If The Flash being the focus is actually th problem, then I fear for both The Flash and Arrow next season once Supergirl gets going, because that too is also by the same people. Hopefully by then, Arrow will just accept that it is part of this fantastical world that they try to stay grounded in and just go all out.
Bring out the Lazarus Pit. Give us the crazy trick arrows (made in co-creation with Star Labs) that help you defeat meta-humans and other such crazy people. Make Laurel have a freak accident that gives her the Canary Cry. Have John Diggle Stewart run across a downed alien ship near the end of next season (after the Supergirl tie in of course) where he recieves a Lantern Corp. Ring.. **** it. just go full ham. Let the crazy out.

The show would be better off for it.

Even the flashbacks seems rather dull, pointless and very unconnected from the present timeline.
Arrow is just off it's game as of Slade being turned into a simp <"radioactive....."> and onwards.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 09, 2015, 01:54:46 AM
by the time it gets there Arrow will have lost its audience and the audience it would be trying to gain from going all out like that will likely rather tune into whatever Marvel cooks up. I think Arrow blew it and there is no turning back I haven't even watched a single episodes of Season 3 S2 killed the show for me. My mom kept watching but stopped after Ollie died and came back again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 09, 2015, 02:58:24 AM
end of S2 was bad, but they could have recovered. Meta-humans wasn't the problem. I think the irony of it all is that The Flash and Arrow are by the same people, yet all focus at the moment is likely on The Flash, and Arrow took a backburner as far everything goes for S3.

If The Flash being the focus is actually th problem, then I fear for both The Flash and Arrow next season once Supergirl gets going, because that too is also by the same people. Hopefully by then, Arrow will just accept that it is part of this fantastical world that they try to stay grounded in and just go all out.

I think Supergirl and Atom need to be summer series in between like Agent Carter is, because the issue that's happening here is almost identical to what happened to Stargate and Star Trek: having too many shows inside the same universe at the same time (SG1 and Atlantis, TNG and DS9, DS9 and Voyager) is going to stretch the producers too far and turn off viewers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on February 09, 2015, 07:36:16 AM
Better Call Saul - Off to a solid start, had some funny moments which is kind of what was expected given the nature of the character. My main question is the Time to Heisenberg.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2015, 08:23:12 PM
end of S2 was bad, but they could have recovered. Meta-humans wasn't the problem. I think the irony of it all is that The Flash and Arrow are by the same people, yet all focus at the moment is likely on The Flash, and Arrow took a backburner as far everything goes for S3.

If The Flash being the focus is actually th problem, then I fear for both The Flash and Arrow next season once Supergirl gets going, because that too is also by the same people. Hopefully by then, Arrow will just accept that it is part of this fantastical world that they try to stay grounded in and just go all out.

I think Supergirl and Atom need to be summer series in between like Agent Carter is, because the issue that's happening here is almost identical to what happened to Stargate and Star Trek: having too many shows inside the same universe at the same time (SG1 and Atlantis, TNG and DS9, DS9 and Voyager) is going to stretch the producers too far and turn off viewers.

I think an Atom 4 episode "mini" series would be pretty dope.
Supergirl is going to CBS though, so maybe a Summer series at first would help establish an audience with lowered ratings expectations. Maybe a 4 part mini-series prequel to the actual show or something. Krypton to Earth mini series. Actual series recaps mini series in 5 minutes and then starts off where it left off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 09, 2015, 08:39:31 PM
Honestly, if I was the CW I would be looking to make each of these series a 3-4 season series, building up the characters to a Justice Society...using the same actors. 

I think Arrow can have one more season with Amanda Waller as the "big bad"  But I think that it would be great if that season ended with Amanda Waller "winning" and forcing the formation of the Justice Society.

By then you could have:  The Atom, The Flash, Firestorm, The Arrow, John Stewart Green Arrow.  Make Ollie the "Batman like" leader and you have a good show.  Star Labs would become the base of operations and you join the two supporting casts as a team. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
You left out Supergirl.

and Arrow has a 5 season "plan" apparently. S3 isn't going so hot, but it's not too late for them to at least salvage whats left of it.

There is also the (Teen) Titans supposedly coming to TNT. That could also be connected, even though nor from the same production company as Arrow, The Flash, and Supergirl.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 09, 2015, 09:37:38 PM
I left out Supergirl because even though it is in the same universe it is not on the same channel and might have difficulties with crossing over. 

I would think it would be wise to do my plan than Krypton or even Teen Titans (Since we would have invested interests and origin stories already told.) 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 10, 2015, 02:07:35 AM
Better Call Saul - Off to a solid start, had some funny moments which is kind of what was expected given the nature of the character. My main question is the Time to Heisenberg.

Well, at one point, Jimmie is giving his credit card number over the phone and mentions the expiry date as 11/04. That would mean it is about 4-5 years even before Heisenberg I would think.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on February 10, 2015, 07:33:06 AM
True, but the timeline for these things is, shall we say, flexible. I mean, we've already seen (Breaking Bad reference) Jimmy managing a Cinnabon in Omaha from the opening scene.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 10, 2015, 11:20:58 AM
Ha ha. I guess so. I already forgot about that part and am just thinking of this now in the linear story progression of how the rest of the episode went. But you're right. I do wonder if we might see two storylines of before BB and after BB at the same time.

In regards to that opening, my initial take is that it wasn't that great and rather forgettable. You compare it to the pilot of BB and there's a greater hook and immediate interest to that story. BCS relies too much on you already being aware of this character and world to keep you intrigued. If someone who had never seen BB was going through channels or tuning in, I'm not sure that opening would keep them around. Vince Gilligan often talked about the opening of an episode and how they would use it to grab people to keep them interested in seeing more. Not every BB episode did this of course but many did. At the same time, BB has grown to a much larger level in the public's consciousness since it premiered and most of the people tuning in for this will be people who have watched BB so it's most likely not a huge issue. I just hope though that the show doesn't become lax in forgetting the principals that made BB a hit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on February 10, 2015, 04:02:33 PM
I haven't seen BCS yet but that's sort of how these types of shows go.  They assume you've seen the other one initially.  They can always do catch-up episodes later if need be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 12, 2015, 02:53:08 AM
Person of Interest. One of the show's key strengths is the producers deliberate choice to have a binge of mythology and arc-heavy episodes Elias, Dominic, Samaritan, Root then just drop it all entirely and return to season 1 styled "case of the week" episodes while sprinkling a dash of the long arcs in between to suggest that it is all still going on.

They even went so far to say that while they were dealing with this "major issues" (the series arc episodes) several people was killed as a result of their inability to help. Fringe attempted this balancing act between "monster of the week" and mythology-heavy but POI has totally nailed the balance.

Plus it's always great to see Zoe again. Fusco dropping that line "you don't get to choose whether i help you or not" was so welcome - great to see him that way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 12, 2015, 03:31:07 AM
Gotham: So at the end of last weeks episode we see Fish attacked by pirates. She runs towards them, and then the episode cuts out, suggesting we're going to see this big battle this week.

NOPE!

Next shot of her is of Fish waking up in prison, no clue how she got there, followed by kissing up to the "man in charge" (who has the only knife) followed by her stabbing him with it. No idea how she got the knife in the first place.

I really am trying to like this show, but at this point in S1 it should have become less frenzied between serious, comic and camp and more knowing of what it wants to be by now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on February 12, 2015, 05:25:17 AM
Do you know what was really special about that last episode of POI? No one died on screen, no gunfire, no kneecaps claimed. It was a great come down episode and the attention to narrative detail is great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 12, 2015, 12:44:25 PM
Last episode was cool, not mind-blowing or anything but it worked.

What bothered me the most was the English teacher using poor grammar. She said something like "....doesn't get helped" instead of "isn't helped". It threw me off for a few seconds, as I thought about her character and who wrote for her. Minor issue, but if she's an english teacher make her believable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 13, 2015, 05:16:50 AM
I think POI needed to do that, just slow the pace down just a bit because it would get exhausting otherwise. And the kneecaps are safe this week!

Arrow: This is the first time in maybe half a season that i've felt that the story has actually pushed forward properly. Amazing how Oliver told her and said simply "thank you!", even after finding out Roy, Diggle and Laurel was involved and was completely trusting of everything, yet threw all her angst at Merlyn instead.

Still not too pleased at how Diggle, the only one with military training and experience, is left in the arrow cave with FELICITY! so Laurel can get more experience. They're not even trying to explain it away either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 13, 2015, 11:03:05 AM
Because Diggle is a daddy now so they don't want him risking his life?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 13, 2015, 11:12:28 AM
That was the conclusion I reached watching it. I laughed at first when Oliver needs someone else and he's got Diggle who's been with him since nearly the beginning and lots of experience or Laurel who, he's been criticising all season and he chooses Laurel. Thatsracist.jpg So, after I laugh and yell at my screen why wouldn't he take Diggle, I started thinking about why and then remembered in the first episode how he sat Diggle out because of family and figured it must still be because of that. It hasn't stopped Diggle from participating in some action since then like when they went to Corto Maltese or The Flash crossover but both those cases involved Argus so it is family matter and that seems to be the only excuse he gets to participate in the action. I chalk it up to the show just not explaining that well enough or the writers thinking they made the point clear and don't realize the audience is confused about it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 13, 2015, 11:55:06 AM
They should fix that by having Diggle give Laurel some "field" training in the down-time.

Diggle needs some action. He serves almost no purpose at this point. Maybe have him testing new arrow heads and weapons tech for the team to take out on missions or something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 15, 2015, 03:45:06 PM
I actually watched a part of the episode where his sister finds out the truth and was totally lame how she still had no idea after all this time and she acts surprised to learn all the men in her life are still keeping secrets from her despite her constantly saying how much she hates that. I didn't catch that much else of the episode but it was so bad I have no regrets walking away from this show.


Did anyone else watch Fresh off the boat? it airs while I am at work so I caught the pilot and thought it was alright. Not what I was expecting from the commercials but I liked it. Comedies are getting harder to find that I like.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 18, 2015, 03:33:11 AM
Dat Flash ending. OMG

*spoilers*


"Dear God..."
Not God, GRODD."

And then a 1 month/4 week break.
The Flash won't be back till March 17

There was a lot of good in this episode. I feel bad for The Flash to shame Arrow so hard during it's rookie season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on February 18, 2015, 02:06:50 PM
Over The Garden Wall 10/10

I was gonna write a review, but just check out it's IMDB page. The reveiwers say it better. The whole season is up on cartoon networks site and can easily be enjoyed in one or two sittings.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 18, 2015, 03:44:39 PM
At this point in the season, Gotham should have started to tie itself all together. Instead its several unrelated plots that MAYBE clash into each other.

And *please* get rid of Barbara. She comes home to find two kids in her house and she just starts talking "and who are you guys?" UGH.

This show has so much potential to be good and it just fails at every chance it gets.

The only thing it has got right consistently is some of the actors (penguin, fish when she's standing on the man as a podium), and the art style of gotham itself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 18, 2015, 04:46:54 PM
At this point in the season, Gotham should have started to tie itself all together. Instead its several unrelated plots that MAYBE clash into each other.

And *please* get rid of Barbara. She comes home to find two kids in her house and she just starts talking "and who are you guys?" UGH.

This show has so much potential to be good and it just fails at every chance it gets.

The only thing it has got right consistently is some of the actors (penguin, fish when she's standing on the man as a podium), and the art style of gotham itself.

Gotham is entertainingly bad though. It's cheese filled with more cheese, and once in a while you get a solid and almost crunchy bite of breaded and meat.

Barbara needs to go though for real. The show was so much better when she wasn't around. And Morena Baccarin is SO DAMN CUTE. Long hair (firefly) Short hair (V) and somewhere in between (Homeland & Gotham), it all works on her. she just does it for me. Barbara is a major downgrade in both looks and character.
Barbara is such a pathetic character, that upon finding 2 dirty street rats squatting in her penthouse, she decided to hang out with them, take Man advice from them and then proceed to do a fashion show for them thinking that they would know better how to seduce her ex-bf better than she would (and they were right, but that's besides the point). It only gets worse when she got "Radioactive'd" in the GCPD locker room. I can only imagine how much lower Barbara can go as character.

still so much better than S3 of Arrow so far though.
(I think I've expressed enough thought on that show so far)

but honestly, The Flash is currently shaming all airing comicbook shows atm.
Explaining the the different effects that time travel might have by referencing movies that used time travel differently, just saved them 5 minutes of audience losing science jargon, and instead created an instant understanding as to what they were talking about. Very smart.

Cisco with the commentary "Dude, that was like week 3....."

the pace of the show and direction they are taking, is definitely setting up The Flash to be the S1 comic show to beat so far. [edit: Can I also just add that the special FX have been surprisingly good for the most part considering the channel and the suspected budget of the show. very impressive. most other shows should be embarrassed after seeing what the CW is able to accomplish with such a small budget.]

Agent Carter has also gotten more interesting in the last 3 episodes as well. Last episode was pretty good, and next episode should be the best yet. Ratings have also taken an uptick, mostly in post live viewings, but a 2nd season isn't a certain thing, so fingers crossed. Dottie (aka Black Widow) descending the stairs was pretty awesome, and the Carter dropping the truth on the "good 'ol boys" club of agents to their disbelief was pretty good as well. Still wondering how this all wraps into the One-Shot as the finale, but my guess is it won't be as clean cut as that. The One-shot being more of a summary of events in 10 minutes vs an accurate conclusion to the current depiction of events.

Constantine is done. I doubt there will be a 2nd season, and it just started to get kinda interesting in the last few eps, but I'm not invested in the show whatsoever, so I won't say that I'll miss it if it gone, not even sure I would continue to watch it should it come back. I was really hoping it would take the place of Supernatural in that type of show slot for me, but it won't.

and Agents of SHIELD returns in 2 weeks, so I also look forward to that. The Flash being on break for the 1st 3 weeks of it's return might help it get that #1 spot back, which should be pretty easy if the 2nd half is just as strong as the 1st. but The Flash has certainly tightened whatever gap there was between 1st and 2nd place on my list.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 19, 2015, 12:42:10 AM
I am so sad Gotham has started to fall so soon, I loved it at first but these last two or three episodes were just not cutting it. I still love the Penguin and I think they are betting on Red Hood getting people excited again but I wish they would get Barbara and Fish both off the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 19, 2015, 03:14:41 AM
Agent Carter: I'm glad i stuck with this show. Hayley Atwell (Carter) is a joy to watch and thoroughly entertaining. She's far more commanding on screen than her male counterparts (even against her superiors).

Person of Interest: I thought this was going to be a simple one-off, but very rapidly it evolved into Samaritan using emotional manipulation via siri with the idea of creating a ready market for Fetch and Retrieve for profit?

At this point, Samaritan alone could probably defeat both SHIELD and Hydra with ease. Can we just merge POI into the Marvel universe?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 19, 2015, 06:33:40 AM
Samaritan is the Insight Program!?

Samaritan is Hydra!?

Or even worse, Samaritan is Ultron....
= Earth is Fucked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 19, 2015, 04:53:03 PM
The Flash: This series is really REALLY good. This show knows its place as being leaning more heavily towards the cheese, but it is glorious.

Or even worse, Samaritan is Ultron....
= Earth is Fucked.

If Ultron was the analogue interface to Samaritan, then everyone is totally fucked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 20, 2015, 01:00:27 AM
Fish had a perfect moment to exit the series for a while and return either in the finale or next season. She can be an interesting character at times but she can overstay her welcome. I agree Barbara needs to go. Fast.


Pity some of these shows are starting to falter. I had a lot of hopes for them. At least some of them are turning out to be real gems.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 20, 2015, 01:56:13 AM
Fish had a perfect moment to exit the series for a while and return either in the finale or next season. She can be an interesting character at times but she can overstay her welcome. I agree Barbara needs to go. Fast.


Pity some of these shows are starting to falter. I had a lot of hopes for them. At least some of them are turning out to be real gems.
I like Fish, I really do.

But Barbara.... I'm predicting that she continues to sink to new lows. She will become attached to the gutter kids, probably becoming more of a Den Mother to them. She may eventually be forced to move out of her penthouse apartment, and down into the gutter with her new street trash family.
I wouldn't be surprised if she started to organize them into an underground thieving sewer militia of sorts, which leads to Jim finding her at an all time new low.
Turns out she went crazy in the sewers and she gets committed to Arkham Asylum, where we don't hear much from her again. Jim lives on happily ever after with Morena Baccarin <3 Dr. Thompkins...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on February 24, 2015, 02:49:11 AM
To take the sting out of reading the dark, tragic classic novel "Frankenstein" I decided to watch The Munsters. I caught it a little bit on Nick at Nite but I appreciate it a lot more now. Herman's monster-y mannerisms and hulking gait are fun to watch. A good show if you're staying "up late".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 24, 2015, 02:53:31 AM
To take the sting out of reading the dark, tragic classic novel "Frankenstein" I decided to watch The Munsters. I caught it a little bit on Nick at Nite but I appreciate it a lot more now. Herman's monster-y mannerisms and hulking gait are fun to watch. A good show if you're staying "up late".

speaking of The Munsters, now I really wish NBC had picked up that Mockingbird Lane pilot that aired as a holiday special a few years back. I thought it had potential, unfortunately it wasn't given much of a chance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on February 24, 2015, 08:54:29 AM
Better Call Saul is still good, but not great.  Worth watching in terms of enjoyable television, but Saul is the only interesting character worth watching at this point other than the callback characters from Breaking Bad.  Really feel like all the "new" characters for this show are fairly lifeless & severely lacking character, although maybe i'm expecting too much from a show that's what, 4 episodes in?
 
I'm definitely keeping up with it though.  I think Bob Odenkirk does a spectacular job, it's just that he's the only reason to watch it so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on February 24, 2015, 11:46:07 AM
That guy was fantastic as the "Michael Scott" clone on that one ep of The Office.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 24, 2015, 04:49:26 PM
Gotham: Fish did WHAT?

I'm on the edge of dropping this show entirely. I like Jada but Fish has no reason to be in this show, and Barbara is just edging on creepy to extremes now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 24, 2015, 09:47:20 PM
If you like Bob Odenkirk, I highly recommend Mr. Show, the HBO sketch comedy show he did with David Cross in the late '90s.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 24, 2015, 10:53:23 PM
So, I'm going to try something new because I am this forum's greatest innovator.

It's the last episode of Parks and Recreation. I'm going to watch it now and rate it as it unfolds. Sure, some may call it live blogging but no one has done it the TV Thread yet, so it's new! It counts!

Basically, I'll just keep posting thoughts in this message and editing it. Unless I just get too wrapped up in the show. Guess we'll see how this experiment plays out.

I got some pizza and I'm ready to do this. Let's dig in.

EDIT: I'll use spoiler tags so as to be respectful. I think of everything!

First off, I was thrown be the open. It seemed like it was set in the past at first. I thought Craig had changed the Parks office but it had the traditional work. It seemed like it was Leslie leaving the Pawnee Parks department to go upstairs to the National Parks department but no, she had just gathered everyone for one last goodbye in the present. After the confusion subsided, one good Gary slam by Tom and the opening credits!

Ok. The show is playing with time again after all. This is unexpected and maybe interesting. Going person by person and seeing their future. It's odd. I laugh at the preposterous future development jokes like Space Haystack but they're also kind of too out there that it takes away from the suspension of disbelief the show usually has. And aside from Donna's comment about why the Seattle housing market is so good, I'm not seeing much humour. Part of it might be trying to keep up and get ones bearings with the time jump.

Same thing with the Craig jump. While it might not be laugh out funny, Craig's resigned agreement about Leslie's first reaction of him being the same as anyone else did make me smile. Why is Typhoon suddenly a big character in these last few episodes? The even farther time jump on the train triggered the thought of Snowpiercer for some reason. It also made things seem like this show is almost a shoestring budget. Craig's remark about a 1,000 regrets and trout was amateurish. I'm starting to worry about this episode....

Alright! Leave it to April and Andy to pick the show back up. Shotgun on an elevator. I love how Ethel chastises Leslie that they've gone digital and to get with the times and then calls her a Luddite simply because it reminded me of Ian Sane's recent comment about Nintendo being Luddites. I now see Ian Sane as Ethel. Good stuff: Neither April or Andy get Leslie's costume, Andy's amazement at Ben's conversation tactic, you look more beautiful now then ever and Andy's excitement then disappointment at presents. Keep it going, Parks. I do just want to quickly add that I never pegged April and Andy as parents in part because Andy is usually childlike enough I suppose. It's an interesting future development thought for the couple. You gotta wonder what that kid would turn out like. Chances are we may find out yet. Back to the show!

Jean-Ralphio! He delivers in his usual way. I got a terminal case of the front line at six flags theme parks! Insurance scam? A long, prosperous life. Insurance scam! Tajikistan casinos! Like many other Parks people, there just isn't anyone else like J.R. on other shows. (That I watch at least.)

And Tom. As expected, things slow down with Tom but in part because his future glimpse goes a bit dark at first. However, things zip back up a bit with another great Gary moment and his signed book mix-up. At this point, it's been a pretty good Parks episode. Kind of the usual fun I expect. Will it achieve some greatness or just stay at this level?

And now on to Gary. Tom laughing at the idea of being his best friend. Despite having always been ridiculed by others on the show, he ends with the perfect life but in a call back to his name problems, his tombstone is misspelled. Nice touch. His win by a landslide mail-in vote is most likely a reference to his ability to get paperwork and mailing tasks done but the reference seems a bit unconnected. And is that a secret nod to either Leslie or Ben being president as they seem to be surrounded by secret service men at the funeral?

Ron time. A bit slower pace but a couple good Ron gems. Telling his brother to quit getting overly emotional, I'll have that steak to go and there's nothing better than a cheesy Ron grin being happy to be out in nature.

The Leslie and Ben wrap-up begins. You know, Ben plays off so well with Leslie being able to handle her energy. A lot of shows will go downhill when the main character(s) marry but they're so good together it's never had a real negative effect. One more Joe Biden cameo. "You've said that before?" Ben's pride at his board game sequel. And an interesting last conundrum for Leslie and Ben. It's too bad they didn't do more with Ben and Leslie's kids. I think they could have had more humour with them. Although using a more cliché mealtime joke could mean I was wrong but I did enjoy the glimpse of these hardly seen kids.

Ha ha ha! Oh, the reaction of Leslie seeing Ann is great. Chris Treager!

Alright. Some great last character conversations. Donna / Tom. April and Ann. Oh, I missed Treager! Ron Lowe's delivery of just simple lines makes me laugh. Leslie, you are the MASTER.... of the metaphor. It sounds like nothing but his enthusiasm makes it work. Checking his health LITERALLY 50 times a day. Aren't you worried it will give you cancer? I am now. From soaring high to sudden low. General observation: I rather like April with glasses. But then I usually like woman with glasses than without.... I've said too much. Ben boring Ann with info on his board game. There's another great moment this show has been without too long. Ann never understanding Ben's nerdish pursuits.

Oh man. Ann Arbor is LITERALLY the best city ever! But Pawnee is better! One more literally joke for the road. Well done. A little sprinkling of comedy with Tom's personality quiz. Ah, Leslie's infatuation with Ben's body and one more Ben look of "huh" to the camera. Ben stepping aside for Leslie. One more sweet moment for the couple.

Another observation. By going looser with time, it's really helped this show keep Leslie's career path projection on the upwards slope. She's always had the ambition and been good at her job. Season 4 allowed her to finally expand and grow by getting to be a City Councillor and deal with more situations beyond the Park department scope. But keeping time steady would mean things would stagnate there or else become repetitive of her running for higher and higher office. And indeed, they did start to stagnate a bit. Season 5 was mostly a steady affair but Season 6 was a bit meandering and almost a regression with Leslie losing the Councillor job. But rather than go through another election, the writers found another way to progress her with the appointment of a job in the National government. Now, by playing with time in Season 7, they could skip a lot of campaign things and just show characters in their new developments or circumstances without having to build the whole backstory too it. Just the history of the characters at this point was enough to allow us to accept any new circumstances. Thus, the show can have Leslie make it all the way to a two-term governor. (and possible president though it's never stated, just implied, at the future Gary funeral.) It's great because we get to see those dreams fulfilled after all and the show didn't have to settle small.

And I was already laughing before seeing Leslie's reaction to having a library named after her. One more running joke for the road.

Well, standing together for a picture is an ok way to wrap up, I suppose. With the episode's structure, there's not a whole lot one can do to make any kind of really poignant moment since we know what their futures are and this isn't the end for that group. Well, it's alright. Everything will be ok. And a quick farewell to one of the writers of the show last week who died. That will make things bittersweet for all involved, I'm sure.


So, in the end, I wouldn't say it is my favorite episode. I'd have to do some thinking on that one. But it was definitely one of the top episodes. A few lows, some great highs all wrapped in the sweetness of friendship and love. It stayed true to the spirit and tone of Parks and Recreation. Most people and characters were referenced in one way or another. Even one more calzone mention for Ben. The only ones really missing would be Jamm, Tammy and Diane. But Jamm and Tammy pretty much had their goodbye moment. Still, it is surprising that we didn't see one more appearance by Diane, Ron's wife. Oh well. I think we'll be able to get by. So, long Parks and Recreation. You've set a high bar for any comedy series I watch in the future.

Episode: 9/10

Season 7: 9.5/10

Ranking the seasons from best to worst: 4, 7, 3, 5, 2, 6, 1.

Series as a whole: 9.5/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 25, 2015, 12:47:56 AM
Gotham: Fish did WHAT?

I'm on the edge of dropping this show entirely. I like Jada but Fish has no reason to be in this show, and Barbara is just edging on creepy to extremes now.

The last episode was so insane that I couldn't help but be highly entertained. Fishing digging out her eye with a spoon and SQUISHING it under her foot was one of the most shocking things I've ever seen in a TV show
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on February 25, 2015, 03:59:53 PM
That was damn hard to watch.

I cannot take stuff like that.  Much more of that and I will give Gotham away. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on February 26, 2015, 04:27:53 AM
So yeah, Arrow.

Interesting episode.  The sooner they actually train Laurel to fight the better.  That "fight" against Malcolm was down right embarrassing.  I've never been in a fight in my life and I reckon I could have done better than that.  She just takes wild untrained swings with the night stick.  Terrible. 

That ending though.  I picked it halfway through the scene but still.  Very interesting to see how it will play out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2015, 09:00:48 AM
On the next episode of BatArrow....

Oliver Wayne finds out that Smoakstack has shacked up with the Iron Atom. Racial Ghoul just wants to retire, holding auditions in his hot tub time machine. Canary -2.0 is a bigger punching Bag to Merlyn the "magician" than Mildcat was to Brickhouse. Loose lips didn't actually sink ships, so Queenie decided to feed herself to the lion instead. Nyssa is still gorgeous. Oh, and the Black Sage of advice is not long for this world... as he sets himself up for an emotional exit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 26, 2015, 01:55:44 PM
You know, I like Arrow, but now they're just flat-out recycling Batman scripts & pasting "Green Arrow" on top of every mention of "Batman", pretty much only because they're not allowed to actually use Batman.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2015, 07:28:41 PM
Arrow Season 3 has been a disappointment after season 2.  It meanders... then it rushes, then it forces the plot and the messes with the characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on February 26, 2015, 08:47:14 PM
ATOM was cool even if he didn't shrink. The whole scene felt entirely Un Arrow which probably was the point. It's disappinting they're co-opting Batman story lines when Lemire did the outsiders last year was Ollie's own league.

But yeah Ollie is batman

Rich billionaire check (bet he gets money by end of the season)
Brodding check
Always has to right and have prep time check
An extended family of super heroes. (Roy, diggle, laurel, Thea)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2015, 09:27:56 PM
CW is exploring another Arrow/Flash spinoff. Brandon Routh and Capt. Cold were named specifically in it. I'll see if I can find it. was on my phone earlier when I saw it.

had something to do with regulars from the 2 shows showing up on this new show alot.
hopefully that means that the Suicide Squad will finally get some love (Poor M.J. White)


edit: found it.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29034.msg863656#msg863656
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 26, 2015, 09:45:56 PM
Arrow Season 3 has been a disappointment after season 2.  It meanders... then it rushes, then it forces the plot and the messes with the characters.

Yeah, this season's been a mess. Thankfully, The Flash was more than happy to pick up the slack. Unfortunately, it's on its second month-long hiatus...because.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2015, 10:11:48 PM
I think The Flash is on hiatus for the SFX which have been awesome considering the usual CW budget.
TV can do good effects, but they usually take time, and TV production has weeks to finish each ep, unlike a movie which has many many months to complete the entire 2hr movie.

I also don't think it's a coincidence that it comes back on the 17th, which is the same day that iZombie premieres, so they are using the popularity of The Flash and it's return from break and a launch pad for iZombie.

which is also a good thing, because it gives the night to Agents of SHIELD for a few weeks. Get that return rating boost.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 27, 2015, 02:52:53 AM
So it's taken effectively four seasons (three from Arrow, one from Flash) to reach the same point which Stargate did in 17.

Fans from that now-on-hiatus franchise (never mind Star Trek!) should be screaming at how not to burn out interest by now.

If its a summer series (like what i suggested with Atom), or placed inside a gap like Agent Carter, then it may work. But you can't have too many on at once. Two is enough.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 27, 2015, 03:12:31 AM
Tonight's episode of Teen Titans Go!...

Holy ****, this episode was amazing and is everything great about this show.  Anyone who hates it should watch this episode.  You'll still hate the series, but, hopefully, you get a chuckle or two out of it.

Young Justice fans NEED to watch this episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on February 28, 2015, 01:51:07 AM
I watched The Goldbergs Ferris Bueller episode On Demand today. I have only ever seen part of one other episode of this show so I am not that familiar with it but I actually kind of liked this one. I am not sure if I will go back and check out the rest of the show or not but this was a good episode.

I also really liked the new Big Bang Theory episode, its been a while since I liked an episode of that show and this was a good one. The show has been downhill for a while but it has its moments from time to time and this was one of the better ones.

I also re-watched New Girl Pilot and wow I had forgotten everything that happened and it hasn't been that long since I discovered this show. It wasn't as funny the second time around I am not sure if that was just the pilot or if the whole show will be ruined upon repeat viewing.


I started watching a show called Brain Games on Netflix. I have seen a few of these before flipping through the channels its interesting but it gets boring real quick.

I just watched the Agents of Shield with Bill Paxton's first appearance so I am probably half way through season 1 right now and its getting good, keeping me curious. This is a good thing because I just can't go back to Arrow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 06, 2015, 09:43:05 AM
House of Cards Season Three
I won't be marking spoilers.

It's easily the worst season of the show. I think the problem is the fact that Frank's ascent to power is complete at the send of Season Two. He can't hold a higher office. All of his manipulations were all for the presidency so where to go from there? They could have ended the show right there and the show would feel complete even though with a title like House of Cards, people expect him to fall. Still, a house of cards is merely fragile and has a greater chance of collapsing and that has been true for those first two seasons. Frank becomes president and there's no real evidence of his misdeeds. Rachel Posner, the most likely person who could pose a problem, was unaccounted for. Roy Kapeniak is similarly unaccounted for, but Rachel was the key.

So knowing the show would continue, I figured Rachel was being kept in the writers' back pocket and that Tom Hammershmidt would eventually find her. If Frank's arc is his rise then eventually fall from power, the writers would have to address Rachel. Well, they did, and I hated it. They try to throw the audience for a loop by apparently killing her off-screen, but I didn't believe that for a second. First, they got Rachel Brosnahan to film new footage. Second, implying a character's death without a proper set up doesn't seem like the show's style. Third, she seemed too important to the plot to just shrug and say, "BTW, she iz died lol." To justify continuing the show, I expected Rachel to play a big role in setting up an end game. Instead, Rachel is "killed" half-way through Season Three then for realsies killed in the finale. It felt like a waste. I would have rather the writers skip Gavin lying about Rachel's death and the season ending the way the finale began: Rachel waking in bed up alive and well. It wouldn't matter if she ended up dying later on in a twist where the show ended with Frank getting away with everything.

Where is the show headed then? It seems that Season Four will deal with Frank fighting to stay in power despite losing so many allies, potentially including Claire. However, the way the writers addressed Season Two's cliffhangers doesn't inspire much confidence (e.g. Frank is a lame president, Doug is alive/murders Rachel etc.). I don't know. I feel like their current trajectory sets up a plot with far less tension than Frank's crimes coming back to haunt him. Who is going to find Rachel Posner? Even if someone does, there's nothing linking her murder to Doug. Speaking of, I kept wanting to root for Doug even though he had his creepy moments. I thought he was turning a corner then no, still a weirdo... and now a murderer.

Maybe I'm being too hard on the show because it didn't play out like I expected. Then again, the first two seasons didn't either. I didn't expect Frank to ascend to POTUS so soon. A lot of the show's fun to me was Frank manipulating the political process. There's less of it in Season Three, and it tends to backfire more often than not. The stakes are also much lower because he's already president. In the first two seasons, he faced losing the president's favor, losing his place in office, incarceration, potential charges of murder, conspiracy etc. In Season Three, Frank faces losing the Democratic nomination and thus the presidency which is still a big deal however he has no where to go but down and all of his truly terrible crimes have been swept under the rug. It makes for a far less interesting story.

I suppose Frank has to lose sometimes in order for his wins to feel more credible and meaningful. However, his losses are more personal as the show weirdly transitioned into a character drama. The losses don't feel substantial or believable. Unless the writers find their balls again, the results seem obvious. Did anyone believe that Doug was really going to turn on Frank ever? The writers kept hinting at it, but I didn't buy it once. So when Jackie turns on Frank, I don't think that's the end of Jackie. I expect her back in Frank's corner somehow. When Claire says she's leaving Frank, I don't believe it. She'll probably end up back together with Frank by the middle or end of Season Four. Does anyone really think Frank is going to lose the election without the show given a hard end date?  And if he does, that alone would be anticlimactic. If Frank falls, he has to fall hard. Losing an election would just happen. Right now, with so many of Frank's enemies either dead, incarcerated, or rendered powerless (politically or otherwise), the only people who can realistically take him down are Doug and Claire, but that would probably require them to implicate themselves. Cut off your nose to spite your face?

And as a character drama, Season Three doesn't do an especially good job of being one. Frank's marriage disintegrating is a big part of the season, but I don't buy it because the set-up is so flimsy. Two seasons worth of Frank and Claire's marriage transcending all manner of conflict and now it suddenly doesn't. Frank used politics as a means to an end, and never really appeared to actually care about policy, but now he does? Is he just using America Works to try to stay in power? I don't know. There's also no realistic way Frank wins Iowa based on the writers' own explanation. Frank was losing in the polls and Jackie's endorsement was supposed to push him in the lead. Jackie, feeling used and betrayed by Frank, endorses Heather instead yet Frank still wins because reasons. Why?

If you read this far, I want to clarify that I didn't hate Season Three. It isn't outright terrible; it's just inexplicably weaker. The writers had all the pieces to make a better story. At the end of Season Two, I felt the show had two seasons left: Frank as President and then his eventual fall. Season Three felt like stalling. I don't know if there's enough left to say here to continue the show for much longer. That's a problem with many shows. They stay longer than they should. Only Breaking Bad strikes me as a show that told a complete story while also making the most of almost every episode. It was a five season show with five seasons worth of material. It could have gone longer, but I'm glad it didn't. Right now, House of Cards Season Three feels like extra though I suppose we'll see how it plays out. It wasn't bad enough for me to stop watching, but I feel less excited about Season Four.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 18, 2015, 03:18:53 AM
The Flash and Agents of SHIELD were both good tonite.

I have yet to check out iZombie, but that's next on the list, and Community started tonite as well.

Re: The Flash
the reveals. the loss. the time travel!? How The Flash just keeps pushing is crazy for a first season show. and having already seen the season preview from Palyfest, I know it's only getting even crazier from here on out. I have no idea how they are gonna keep this up going into S2.... they didn't do it on purpose, but they have indirectly made Arrow almost boring in comparison. He has no place in his own verse now. His problems aren't really threatening anymore. and most of his talents are now useless in a world where The Flash exist.


AoS
Real SHIELD!!!!? wuuuuut!?
and poor Skye, but I guess this means that FitzSimmons gets to build her a suit to help control her powers.
The Inhuman setup is very intriguing, and knowing that we've only seen a few of them (no, none of the "powered" people in this ep besides Skye and Blindcrawler are Inhuman) just makes me wonder how they are gonna drag this out for another 4 more years until the Inhumans movie tie-in.

I love this show, but 6 seasons and a (Inhumans) movie!? I'm so down.


As far as the Arrowverse, it's gonna be amazing seeing Superwoman team up with The Flash, but I'm not really sure where that leaves Arrow and crew. Either way, Arrow looks to be heating up (finally) based on the season preview video from Paleyfest. And the next Arrow/Flash crossover will hopefully be even better than the last, for both shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 18, 2015, 05:05:18 AM
No Person of Interest this week, and the last one was a bit of a filler again, but they've definitely hit the brakes on the main storyline episodes recently. Given how heavy things have been, especially with the Brotherhood, Samaritan and other things, the show needs to slow the pace down without burning out.

The inevitable battle between Dominic and Elias is going to be insane
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 18, 2015, 04:46:19 PM
The Flash stepped it up a gear.  Then went back down 5.  I HATE TIME TRAVEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's such a cop out.  Show all this awesome stuff and then smack a troll face on the screen and send them back so nothing happened.

But it's the Flash so time travel is expected so I got no room to whinge haha.  Just so frustrating.  So much awesomeness.  When he ended up back in that street I quite literally yelled at my TV.  I should have seen it coming.  Normally I would have expected this but I was to enamored by the rest of the episode I wasn't thinking.   

I'm hoping that things next week end up the same except for Cisco being choppy choppied.  However if said choppy choppy leads to his powers coming out then choppy choppy away. 

Oh btw, I am going to be VERY disappointed if there are no Star Wars references dropped by Cisco when Mark Hamill turns up.  I'm expecting something along the lines of "That dude looks so much like Luke Skywalker".  Heads will roll if this doesn't happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 18, 2015, 05:43:19 PM
The Flash has time travel elements at its core...however, I think they are going to tell a story about the dangers of time travel and then never do it again. 

So this next episode they will save the day using time travel...drop that storyline for a bit, as Barry learns more about it...and the Speed Force.

The the season finale will go towards stopping the Reverse Flash that rewrites time sends the Reverse Flash back but prevents Barry from becoming the Flash...and the world changes for the worse...big cliffhanger season ends.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 18, 2015, 11:03:29 PM
I am almost caught up with season one of Agents of Shield. I just watched the one where Hydra is revealed and I think there is a flaw in the show right there. While connecting it to the greater Marvel universe works great for people who watch the films and series, its kind of odd if you only watch the show and miss what happens in the movie. It is like watching Torchwood without Doctor Who, some things are just going to be completely lost on the viewer.


It felt like they really rushed through it in the Tv series because they just expected you to have seen the events of the movie. Yeah I get that it is a tie in but that seems like it could be a hindrance to the shows creativity. I still like how it references the movies but that story arch seemed like it needed more than half just an episode to set the tone, if you watch it with The Winter Soldier it adds a lot too it but it feels empty on its own.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 20, 2015, 12:41:34 AM
I watched the last episode of Arrow and I have to say, this show has weird pacing.  It's like they decided to finally take the show seriously and move toward an interesting direction.  However, the story arc they are working on feels disconnected from the general story at hand...which I think isn't very strong.

The Flash also has pacing issues with the show moving incredibly fast to tell micro-stories almost and get in and out, moving the plot along at a rapid pace.  It is interesting, but I feel it only works with the Flash, because he moves so fast things almost have to happening at the same time to prevent him from just instant winning the battle. 

So where Arrow seemed to be pulling 2 story narratives that feel disconnected but interesting.  The Flash's disconnected narratives actually worked for the better of the story.  Though honestly, at this rate The Flash can only have 2 good seasons, because these stories just seem too be too strong to continue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2015, 01:10:34 AM
That's fair, because Arrow only had 2 good seasons as well. Maybe The Flash can break that streak.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 20, 2015, 06:32:34 AM
The Flash has a particular problem with being, effectively, season 4 of Arrow. It has all of the experience - thus all of the benefits - of the three previous years of Arrow under it's belt and can go in a different direction with it to make it work.

But the glaring Stargate comparisons are starting to appear after 15 episodes.

Arrow has strong connections to Stargate SG1 which was all about the group dynamics. Flash has comparisons to Atlantis which was about the cheese, bang and spectacle and increasing ridiculousness. This third show seems like it's heading towards SGU with a singular narrative and a group of people stuck together. (or at the very least with a similar skill set).

Also, unrelated note:

Oliver to Laurel: "Laurel you need training" *diggle remains silent*
Nyssa to Laurel: "Laurel you need training" *diggle not even in scene*

Diggle is the only character in the entire show with the most exposure to Oliver's training regime (and everyone else's), the only one with military experience and connections (which arguably makes him the most capable/useful member of the group) and the only actor with training outside of the show. So seeing the show deliberately avoid pairing Laurel (and maybe Roy?) with Diggle is annoying me badly the more they deliberately avoid it.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 21, 2015, 01:33:44 AM
Also, unrelated note:

Oliver to Laurel: "Laurel you need training" *diggle remains silent*
Nyssa to Laurel: "Laurel you need training" *diggle not even in scene*

Diggle is the only character in the entire show with the most exposure to Oliver's training regime (and everyone else's), the only one with military experience and connections (which arguably makes him the most capable/useful member of the group) and the only actor with training outside of the show. So seeing the show deliberately avoid pairing Laurel (and maybe Roy?) with Diggle is annoying me badly the more they deliberately avoid it.



I never watched any Stargate, so I can't really comment on that, but the gross underuse of Diggle has not gone unnoticed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 21, 2015, 11:25:34 PM
I watched the first three episodes of True Detective. Matthew McConaughey is HILARIOUS. Every time Woody Harrelson asks him in a questions it's dark comedy gold!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 25, 2015, 07:50:38 AM
So, erm, The Flash. The entire episode ignored the previous timeline? He saw himself so doesn't that mean the original timeline from the previous episode would take place anyway up to the point when Barry loops back? If you're going to introduce time travel, fine, but the rules have to be clearly set for how it works.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 25, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
I think the rules are that time can not allow two people to exist at the same time.  So when he went back in time, he replaced the his other self.  However, he still retains the information of what happened to lead him to time travel.  So time prevents 2 instances of a person existing...that is the "time mirage."  But perhaps I am wrong. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 25, 2015, 10:04:27 AM
But Barry saw himself both before and after he went back a day, so how can that be true? Either going back a day meant he created a new timeline, which if he did he wouldn't have seen himself, or he overlapped with his own timeline and saw himself and that caused two Barry's to be in the episode. The episode jumped between both ideas by re-showing previous things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 25, 2015, 11:58:19 AM
current episode of Fresh off the Boat, man I am really loving this show everyone should be watching this show needs to last a while.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 25, 2015, 09:32:58 PM
But Barry saw himself both before and after he went back a day, so how can that be true? Either going back a day meant he created a new timeline, which if he did he wouldn't have seen himself, or he overlapped with his own timeline and saw himself and that caused two Barry's to be in the episode. The episode jumped between both ideas by re-showing previous things.

Until it is fully explained in upcoming episodes we can not know for sure.  But one theory is that the speed force controls time and space...and that force is what keeps balance of time preventing paradoxes.

So the first time Barry noticed himself coming out of the speed force, but that event didn't happen yet, so he was seeing a speed mirage.  When the actual event does happen, the past Barry was the mirage. 

I didn't like the episode because it didn't truly explain things properly, but it was still fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2015, 05:13:01 AM
Katherine Winnick (Vikings,) the Capt. Marvel hopeful, was on Person of Interest and was kicking ass, showing off those real world fighting (and acting) skills.

And she was looking good not all dirty and covered in blood.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 26, 2015, 09:10:49 AM
She was really good at it too, i hope we see her again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2015, 09:26:43 PM
That's the first time I've taken note of her outside of Vikings.

I don't think I would mind her as Capt. Marvel if she were chosen.
and hopefully she comes back to PoI as well... although John now got a fiery little red head to distract him, so things might be a little awkward if she comes back too soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 27, 2015, 04:27:39 AM
Arrow: So Roy gets electrocuted and Oliver just leaves him there, unseen for the rest of the episode? What a dick move.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 27, 2015, 10:11:24 AM
Arrow: So Roy gets electrocuted and Oliver just leaves him there, unseen for the rest of the episode? What a dick move.

Ha ha ha I noticed that too. I'd like to believe Oliver then told Felicity that Ray just killed Roy in an effort to break them up and further add to his dickishness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 27, 2015, 11:48:42 AM
Oh and let's not forget the part where Ray officiates the wedding and says that the couple has written some vows and let's Diggle and his wife speak. There seems to be no vows spoken. Just some quick tough talk like banter that seems it was made up on the spot and then the wedding is over. How long did they work on those vows?

Arrow. You so silly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 27, 2015, 03:40:14 PM
Arrow: So Roy gets electrocuted and Oliver just leaves him there, unseen for the rest of the episode? What a dick move.

from the Marc Guggenheim Tumblr (lead writer)

Quote
What happened to Roy after the Arrow/ATOM fight ?! He is unconscious after being electrocuted and Oliver just walked away, leaving him !

That was our bad.

When Ray and Oliver fought Roy got electrocuted and thrown against a fence, Oliver then beat Ray and walked away, What happened to Roy? Is he okay? We don't see him again in the episode.

We fucked up.

But did we just forget about Roy in yesterday's episode? I mean he was electrocuted.

Yeah. That Roy moment wasn’t our finest hour.

Just another example supporting the decline of the show. Overall not a bad episode though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 27, 2015, 05:02:08 PM
Seems to me this could be used to drive the wedge between Oliver and Roy.

Dude is such an ass he just leaves his unconscious, electrocuted friend lying in the street?  I wouldn't want to be his sidekick either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 27, 2015, 06:01:21 PM
Leaving that glaring oversight for the moment, at least they had Oliver using his flechettes.  Well, once.  They really need to expand his repertoire.

Speaking of which.  I think he really needs something else if he will be useful in the following situation.

POTENTIAL MAJOR SPOILERS!!!!! (http://grantgustinnews.com/post/114689590715/actor-grant-gustin-the-flash-joins-forces-with)

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 27, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
Never mind Ray saying that he used the X-Ray scanner built into his helmet to work out Oliver is the Arrow.

What, you mean potentially lethal x-rays if repeatedly exposed to them hence medical staff leave the room prior to starting the scan to avoid repeated exposure? Ray will be dead real fast because of his own suit, never mind not having any training to do this kind of thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2015, 12:26:04 AM
Didn't you know that Central City isn't the first time Oliver and Ray meet.... They first met in Hong Kong.... 5 years ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 29, 2015, 11:36:32 AM
Arrow was one of my favorite shows during season 2. Now, I have a hard time paying attention in season 3. At the current trajectory, it's going to reach Heroes Season 3 level of bad soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 29, 2015, 04:44:25 PM
I really feel that if Cisco can create a gun that turns things into Gold, he's really not working towards his full potential at STAR Labs.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 29, 2015, 07:28:16 PM
I really feel that if Cisco can create a gun that turns things into Gold, he's really not working towards his full potential at STAR Labs.

And it appears he did a Tony Stark and made it mostly from scrap and household appliances :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 29, 2015, 08:22:13 PM
I really feel that if Cisco can create a gun that turns things into Gold, he's really not working towards his full potential at STAR Labs.

And it appears he did a Tony Stark and made it mostly from scrap and household appliances :P

I could be remembering wrong, but I don't think it was actually a Midas Gun though. Just some alloy that had a gold-like appearance.
I don't really feel like going back through the episode where I think it was actually mentioned....

Either way, Ray needs to meet Cisco, and Ollie needs to commission some special arrows out of Star Labs to make him relevant to the upcoming threats that far outclass his street level brawler team of misfits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 29, 2015, 09:46:09 PM
The "Gold Gun" was kinda silly.  But The Flash isn't about being realistic.  It is about being over the top and fun.  And besides, the real powers the character has was far more silly.  So, I am glad they are not changing the characters too much.

As for Cisco and the Arrow, I am hoping they move the Arrow away from point-y arrows and more into trick Arrows soon.  If Ray Palmer and/or Cisco could give the Arrow a new arsenal it would be great. 

I would like to see what they did in the animated series...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: marvel_moviefan_2012 on March 29, 2015, 10:05:00 PM
Last Man Standing has begin it's downward spiral since about mid-season. I am hoping it can make a come back but so far it's just not as funny as it used to be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 29, 2015, 10:58:11 PM
Continued previous post.

The Animated series had the "Trick Arrows"  like Taser Arrows.  I feel the show really needs to work towards these, because otherwise Arrow is going to be framed easily anyone using real Arrows. 

Also, I would love to see Gas Arrows for both knocking out people, and stealth attacks.  Right now, Arrow is supposed to be a master leader and tactician however, I feel he just runs into situations arrows flying. 

The World Arrow is in, has gotten bigger and more "meta-human"-y.  I think Arrow as a show needs to evolve to show that. 

Give us trick arrows, give us a Black Canary with a real meta-Canary Cry.  Give us Roy Harper Arsenal, with his arm cut off and replaced with a weapon, because why not?

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on March 29, 2015, 11:12:58 PM
Since I'm too lazy to bump the wrestling thread:

Wrestlemania XXXI - ***3/4
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 29, 2015, 11:17:13 PM
I know we are getting there, but for a show that established the "flash" pacing in it's first 2 seasons, they sure are going for the slow burn this season and the show is suffering for it.

The Flash keeps it moving, even AoS stepped on the gas from the start and barely let off these last 2 episodes. Both of those shows have been all the better because of it.

We've seen the bolo arrow several times, and we even saw the punching glove arrow once. I think he used some sort of taser arrow on Ray last episode to short out the suit, and they even made a point that the Fake Arrows were identical to the real things, so maybe that will be the cause to seek out new and exciting arrows that can't just be replicated by anyone.
exploding arrows, gps tracker arrows, gas tipped, smoke bomb tipped, flash bang tipped, tranq arrows, glue arrows, taser arrows, rocket arrows, zip line arrows, drill tipped arrows, EMP arrows, flame/flare arrows, hammer head arrows, hell, make a damn boomerang arrow for all I care, but spice it up, and do it quickly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 29, 2015, 11:35:40 PM
Continued previous post.

The Animated series had the "Trick Arrows"  like Taser Arrows.  I feel the show really needs to work towards these, because otherwise Arrow is going to be framed easily anyone using real Arrows. 

Also, I would love to see Gas Arrows for both knocking out people, and stealth attacks.  Right now, Arrow is supposed to be a master leader and tactician however, I feel he just runs into situations arrows flying. 

The World Arrow is in, has gotten bigger and more "meta-human"-y.  I think Arrow as a show needs to evolve to show that. 

Give us trick arrows, give us a Black Canary with a real meta-Canary Cry.  Give us Roy Harper Arsenal, with his arm cut off and replaced with a weapon, because why not?

I want to see a Buzzsaw arrow, because as Justice League taught us, Black Canary thinks that's self-indulgent. :P:

Seriously, though, this season of Arrow has been a huge letdown. It's just been wandering without focus for most of the season, and then once it did get a focus it was just to rip-off a Batman storyline.  In the meantime, it hasn't even been joyfully entertaining like Flash is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 30, 2015, 01:01:58 AM
I don't mind the Batman ripoff...after all Green Arrow in many ways is a Robin-Hood Batman. And I like the overall story arc, I just hope they see the need to change the style of the show next season...which rumor has it, they will.

I am hoping that season 2 was learning to be a hero.  Season 3 is seeing that being a hero is more than just not killing...it is fundamentally doing things differently...and Oliver learning that he can embrace life and be the Arrow. 

Then I hope season 4 is just fun Arrow and team working together like a well oiled team, but a betrayal leaves team Arrow fighting from within.

So this season I want to see Roy Harper get injured so badly he is out of commission as Arsenal.  (Like an arm being removed) and he is out of the story for half a season...only to come back as side villain.  Yes it is the Red Hood, but I think Green Arrow actually did it first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 30, 2015, 01:17:06 AM
Wrestlemania 31.

It was good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 30, 2015, 03:15:44 AM
TWD

I just watched the last 2 episodes back2back and this season just got interesting again. Too bad there are only 2 episodes left.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2015, 03:32:18 AM
AoS

Daaaayyyyyuuuum Skye.... Daisy.... Quake.... or whatever we are supposed to call you now. That scene was crazy.

and the episode over all is just keeping the bar high so everyone else has something to reach for.

although The Flash was also very entertaining tonight.
Mark Hamill did his best "Not the Joker" while playing his character from 20 years ago as his character from 20 years ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on April 01, 2015, 10:01:36 AM
The Flash/Shield power hour is so so good.

It makes sense, in the 90s series for the flash his Trickster had a ton of shades of the Joker. Honestly this is how I would play up an Older Joker for the DCU movies.

I've been thinking about what they can do next. If Barry does indeed save his mom it would cause a big shift in universe that would be more logical than the comics flashpoint. If Barry's mom never dies than Slade would have taken over Star City. Ray Palmer as the Atom would be a much darker character. Cold and Heatwave would still have their weapons but their wouldn't be a flash or Firestorm to fight them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 01, 2015, 04:17:15 PM
AoS

Daaaayyyyyuuuum Skye.... Daisy.... Quake.... or whatever we are supposed to call you now. That scene was crazy.

and the episode over all is just keeping the bar high so everyone else has something to reach for.

although The Flash was also very entertaining tonight.
Mark Hamill did his best "Not the Joker" while playing his character from 20 years ago as his character from 20 years ago.

Never mind the star wars reference i am your father
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2015, 05:11:50 PM
AoS

Daaaayyyyyuuuum Skye.... Daisy.... Quake.... or whatever we are supposed to call you now. That scene was crazy.

and the episode over all is just keeping the bar high so everyone else has something to reach for.

although The Flash was also very entertaining tonight.
Mark Hamill did his best "Not the Joker" while playing his character from 20 years ago as his character from 20 years ago.

Never mind the star wars reference i am your father

At that point, I was like, this episode is incredible. Congrats to the writers for taking full advantage of Mark Hamill and his whole history. Star Wars, The Joker, and The Trickster. They were just wrapping everything up into a whole Hamill celebration. On top of that, we got to see more details about the night Barry's mom dies with a glimpse of that speedster fight. Then there's the fact that after Well's had berated Barry about changing time, we see that he (Thawne) has already changed and messed with time by speeding up the particle accelerator project. What are the ramifications of that?

Also, Barry needs a better poker face. You don't alert the villain you are on to them by being curt and prickly towards them. You need to keep them off guard and unsuspecting of you. Too often, everyone knows what Barry is thinking because he doesn't control his emotions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on April 01, 2015, 06:44:16 PM
I wonder why Harrison didn't just use that man meld machine thingy on Barry on day one....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2015, 06:59:59 PM
Because it would change time to much and create some paradox?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 01, 2015, 07:28:29 PM
That was a really good episode of the Flash.

Speculations:The Ronny Raymond version of Firestorm is killed because of the Flashpoint, this causes Kaitlyn to go off the deep end and become Killer Frost. Reverse Flash kills Cisco again by vibrating his hand through his chest, this time it activates his metahuman powers and he becomes Vibe. Reverse Flash goes up against the Atom and actives the white dwarf star that he uses as his power source. Atom then shrinks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2015, 08:42:56 PM
A lot of people are predicting the Flashpoint event as happening for next season and I admit that all this talk of trying to stop the murder of Barry's mom in this season seems to be leading up to that but I just don't see that as a good idea for a show that is still so young. There's still much of this universe and world to create and if you want the full effect of a Flashpoint event, I think you need a second season at least to further build up different events and moments and situations before you show the alternate possibilities of what life would be like by changing that moment in time. If they do Flashpoint next season, then I think this show runs the risk of burning up a lot of material too fast and could result in the Arrow situation we see now where it seems to be a struggle to find engaging new conflicts or direction.

I feel Arrow has turned things around a lot at the point that Oliver finally came clean to Thea though it still struggles from earlier plot points (like not telling Lance about Sarah's death). However, the biggest reason why I think the show is struggling is from all the cast subtraction that has occurred over the first two seasons. The more you eliminate characters, the less story potential you then have and the remaining characters have to shoulder the load of finding new angles and interests. Otherwise, you have to introduce new characters but then you've got to build them up and there's no guarantee that they will be as popular as the established ones you've killed off or mostly eliminated from the story.

For instance, a lot could have been done with Moira Queen still alive and winning the mayoral election. All of that story potential was killed for a moment to bolster Deathstroke's villainy and to get revenge for Oliver's earlier choice (which I still think wasn't an actual choice). It's a big moment but it throws away so much more potential material that could have happened. Now, in addition to the mayor dying at the start of season 2 and both mayoral candidates of Blood and Queen dying, the latest no-name mayor has just been killed. It comes off as completely ridiculous about how cursed that job is and highlights what might have been with Moira and Lance at odds about the Arrow now or if she had been targeted by the League of Assassins now in Ra's plan.

We got Ray Palmer introduced and while he is likeable, he's just felt at odds with everything else going on in the season and again, there could be a lot of story potential just within Oliver's running and the business of Queen Consolidated. Instead, because the budget is so low, they had to give those sets to Ray since they couldn't build new ones and I don't know where they are planning on taking Oliver and his company business in the future. Moreover, it just seems like Ray and Oliver should have been able to get along more which they might have if Oliver still had a company and it wasn't taken over by Ray. Weird story choices with the new characters introduced are another reason this story is stumbling. The whole Hong Kong flashbacks have been the biggest example of this.

In the end, I still say Arrow is a step above Smallville. Yet, I liked Smallville and one positive thing to take away from looking back to Smallville is that it developed well in its first 3 seasons and the 3rd season especially is one of the highlights of that show. Yet, it crashed and burned with a pretty bad Season 4 with a so-so introduction of Lois Lane and introducing a couple characters as the villains/antagonists that didn't quite work along with the whole witches/magic plot. It took awhile to regroup but it got stronger again in Season 5 with the introduction of Brainiac and had another good season in Season 6. It would continue to struggle with cast changes but later, Season 9 would be another top season for the show and by that point, the Lois Lane character had completely won me over after her rough start. The takeaway is that even if this season is rather rough, it has a pretty solid foundation still in place and all it takes is a good villain or well-executed story to turn things back around so I'm still willing to stick around with it and see how Season 4 ends up faring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 01, 2015, 10:13:22 PM
I think you're being too kind to Smallville.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2015, 10:23:46 PM
Ha ha ha.

It suffered from pacing issues and for sure it dragged some storylines out way too long and kept circling back to them over and over. I'm looking at you Clark and Lana hooking up, breaking up, making up, repeat. Way too long for Clark to become Superman as well. Yet, as far as I'm concerned, it gave the definitive Lex Luthor and Lois Lane performances portrayed in any program. Radio, television and movies. I know the Animated Series was pretty good and Lois and Clark gets some love from people but Rosenbaum and Durance are the characters now for me. It also gave a great character in Lionel Luther and John Glover's portrayal of him was splendid. Just kind of ironic that it isn't the greatest Clark Kent or Superman portrayal when that was kind of the focus and pitch of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2015, 11:17:06 PM
Ha ha ha.

It suffered from pacing issues and for sure it dragged some storylines out way too long and kept circling back to them over and over. I'm looking at you Clark and Lana hooking up, breaking up, making up, repeat. Way too long for Clark to become Superman as well. Yet, as far as I'm concerned, it gave the definitive Lex Luthor and Lois Lane performances portrayed in any program. Radio, television and movies. I know the Animated Series was pretty good and Lois and Clark gets some love from people but Rosenbaum and Durance are the characters now for me. It also gave a great character in Lionel Luther and John Glover's portrayal of him was splendid. Just kind of ironic that it isn't the greatest Clark Kent or Superman portrayal when that was kind of the focus and pitch of the show.

a lot of truth spoken in here.

although Smallville s4-6~7 were unforgivable, outside of Chloe, Lois, Lionel and Lex.

and John Glover is still Lionel Luther in EVERYTHING i see him in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 01, 2015, 11:44:02 PM
(Insert any Khushrenada post here)

a lot of truth spoken in here.


That's what I do! I preach it! There's a whole lot of misguided souls on these forums and I am giving my all to lead them to the light. The glorious shining light of a TV screen and what it can mean to their lives.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on April 02, 2015, 12:08:21 AM
Smallville jumped the shark when Pa Kent died. The show should have become Superman: the series in Season 6 or so, and I thought Tom Welling was a pretty good Clark.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 02, 2015, 12:20:09 AM
Smallville jumped the shark after season 3...they should move on and turn the heroes into heroes. 

"A lot of people are predicting the Flashpoint event as happening for next season and I admit that all this talk of trying to stop the murder of Barry's mom in this season seems to be leading up to that but I just don't see that as a good idea for a show that is still so young. There's still much of this universe and world to create and if you want the full effect of a Flashpoint event, I think you need a second season at least to further build up different events and moments and situations before you show the alternate possibilities of what life would be like by changing that moment in time. If they do Flashpoint next season, then I think this show runs the risk of burning up a lot of material too fast and could result in the Arrow situation we see now where it seems to be a struggle to find engaging new conflicts or direction."

I think they are doing Flashpoint...but differently.  The thing is, they were worried that the show might not become popular, so they wanted to tell the Flash story as quickly as possible.  I think this season has been excellent about slowly introducing and showing us all of the Flash's powers.  Now, they are definitely setting up for Flash point.  This weeks episode totally confirms it.

By the end of this season I promise 100% The Flash will have lost his powers, and saved his mom's life.  And the Reverse Flash will somehow be reconnected to the speed force, and either A) Go back to the future or B) be apart of the evil time changed mess that we have be in the wake of the Flash never existing. 

However, they will not pull in too many other heroes it will be a more personal and smaller story.  But it will give us a truly heroic and good Doctor Wells for season 2...which is nice because he is so likable. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on April 02, 2015, 08:41:43 AM
Flashpoint is only worth 1 or two episodes at max. The universe is still a bit too small to have any major revisions to the universe. Off the top of my head I see

The particle accelerator wouldn't been created for another five years and the explosion wouldn't have made any Meta Humans.
Team Arrow would have been killed by Slade Wilson with Ollie killed by Solomon Grundy.
The League of Assassin's and Slade's Army goes to War in Starling.
Firestrom would have been made but it would have been a government backed hero.
The Atom would be much Darker hero and fighting both sides in Starling.
Taskforce X would be a publicly known super team.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 02, 2015, 03:41:51 PM
Why didnt recent events of the flash the time jump back one day and then rewriting things affect arrow too?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 02, 2015, 04:15:48 PM
Laurel: "He's not giving you anything to use to run"... THEN CALL BARRY
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 02, 2015, 05:30:13 PM
Why didnt recent events of the flash the time jump back one day and then rewriting things affect arrow too?

To be fair, even in comic books, a character can experience time travel or change things and it doesn't usually effect other characters and their worlds in their comic books.

Plus, for all we know, it did affect Oliver. Maybe he accepted Ra's al Ghul's offer the first time but then declined when the day happened again. Unlike Barry who knows what happened the first time around, no one in the Arrow world would remember what happened the first go-around anyways. It could also be that nothing really changed in the Arrow world from the day re-do either because the effects of it were felt more in Central City anyways where most of the changes happened. It's part of the time-travel conundrum. If someone did go back and time and change it, how would you and I know about it? Would everyone experience the time change or would it just be altered so that we've always lived with whatever change happened and we never knew about the first timeline existing? I don't know why so many people are making a big deal about Arrow not showing the effects of the day over. To me, it makes perfect sense why we wouldn't see it.

Laurel: "He's not giving you anything to use to run"... THEN CALL BARRY


True but even if he did run, his secret is still publicly exposed. Maybe he can use the time on the run to think of a new plan to recover it but I think it would be nearly impossible to successfully do and I think Oliver realized that too. Moreover, running away by Barry doesn't solve the Ra's problem either. Confessing may not either but it further makes it difficult for Ra's to keep pushing Oliver to accept the offer. In the end, I don't get why he just doesn't tell his group that he'll accept the offer to get Ra's from coming after them. Then when Ra's dies, he could dismantle the whole league or give it away to someone else. Who cares? Ra's is dead and they didn't have to go through all this trouble. Everyone acts like accepting the offer means they become mass murderers. I hate the extreme black and white they always try to paint every situation in. There is middle ground.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 02, 2015, 07:57:03 PM
Why didnt recent events of the flash the time jump back one day and then rewriting things affect arrow too?

You have to look at time travel from the eyes of the person you traveled in time as the center of the event.  The closer to that person you are the more the event of time travel will affect you.  In Barry's case the only people affected would be the people that had interactions with him the day prior to the jump. 

The Arrow had no interactions with him, so the jump would mean he would make the exact same decisions as before...nothing changed for him.  Even Doctor Wells said Barry you must make the exact same decisions and do exactly the same things or you will change time. 

As for the Flash helping.  How would he get in touch with the Flash?  Would Barry believe or trust him?  Oliver Queen's decision to turn himself in, was the right move.  His teams decision to try to free him was the WRONG decision.  Unless the city has a death sentence, Oliver staying in jail until the city realizes he is innocent and they need him, would have been the most mature and responsible thing to do.  The fact that he can't express that to his team shows he has bad leadership skills.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 05, 2015, 10:35:12 PM
Comedy Central Roast of Justin Bieber - 8.5/10

Who would have thought that this would be one of best roasts they've ever put out? There is some serious comedy gold in this one. If you haven't watched it yet, fix that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on April 05, 2015, 10:42:16 PM
Flash got good.

I don't understand why Barry has figured out that he has the ability to time travel, but still seems confused about how his blood appeared at his mother's crime scene.

But it's good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 06, 2015, 11:23:19 PM
Flash got good.

I don't understand why Barry has figured out that he has the ability to time travel, but still seems confused about how his blood appeared at his mother's crime scene.

But it's good.

I think Barry understands he is going to get a chance...but Barry can't think 4th dimension-ally yet.  So, he believes that with this new knowledge that he HAS gone back in time that he can use it to change the outcome...but he probably already had that knowledge because he goes back in time after he finds out he can.  Or did he...

Perhaps that is entirely a different Barry than the current timeline Barry...because the Reverse Flash sped up the time table of the creation of the Particle accelerator...which means the Barry that traveled in time the FIRST time might, not have been the same Barry.  Confusing I know.

This is why time travel stories need to be very carefully handled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 12, 2015, 09:10:05 PM
Well, I've watched the leaked first 4 episodes of Game of Thrones' Season 5 and...it's going to be a long wait for the rest of the season. To those watching the series as it airs, enjoy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2015, 09:19:22 PM
Those are in my queue, but they have to wait till the Daredevil marathon is complete.

I'm about to start ep8 hopefully soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Nile Boogie Returns on April 12, 2015, 10:11:40 PM
Well, I've watched the leaked first 4 episodes of Game of Thrones' Season 5 and...it's going to be a long wait for the rest of the season. To those watching the series as it airs, enjoy.






I soured on GoT last year but I'm trying to get back into it. Watched the premier of Season 5 and I really haven't changed my mind. I hope it gets good  (for me) again but there are other shows out there that have my attention now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 14, 2015, 01:24:08 PM
First two episodes down, and Daredevil is my favorite new television show. I'm glad they went the route that he simply begins whooping ass and developing his back story later. It allowed the show to start off at a quick pace.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 15, 2015, 06:51:07 AM
The last episode of The Flash was mostly a filler.  Moved the plot forward, and was fun...but essentially a letdown.  I think they are spending a lot of time one the who is The Reverse Flash, and it is interesting, but ultimately they seem to be wasting valuable season 1 time. 

Also, I am really frustrated with what I call "The LOST flaw."  Characters keeping really stupid secrets from each other that seem pointless and dangerous to keep.  Seriously, you are going to give up your relationship with the person you love, to POSSIBLY, MAYBE protect her...this goes for everyone on that team.  I wish Felicity could have talked some sense into about that with the Black Canary.  Because I completely understand the betrayal felt from Captain Lance.  I would turn on the Arrow also.  I would potentially shoot him on spot. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 15, 2015, 11:31:22 AM
[Agents of SHIELD] was another good ep.

Skye is already getting a grip on her powers, her family has been put back together (in more ways than one), now Raina is "The Clairvoyant", and May's "The Cavalry" backstory ties nicely into Skye's being, and shows us that they really did have a plan back in Season 1.

It's amazing the turn around this show has had. Not to mention that Coulson has been working on something HUGE in the background, and it's likely to be the spin-off to AoS. Popular guess right now is The Secret Warriors.

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[Daredevil]

I really like this show, but I have not made only made it halfway into ep12. I will finish it tonite, but slow pacing mixed with late starts (11pm....ish) means I didn't end up finishing it sooner.
I'm pretty sure I will end up watching it again before Jessica Jones later this year, but this show has been so good so far. I still miss MCD as Kingpin, but D'onofrio <sp> has done a good job. ONly thing it that up to this point, he doesn't have that menacing confident "don't **** with me" look. He always looks a little worried, possibly constipated look. Maybe he comes into it in the final 2 episodes, but I wouldn't know because I've been forced to start the episode too late at night to properly enjoy and finish them uninterrupted.


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[The Flash]

I'll have to get into this more later, but **** is about to hit the fan. Ray is cheesy as ****.
Iris's BF sounds like a pussy and he could have made up anything to get her off his back. Also why can't some people just be happy? Why do you feel the need to throw everything away just because he is not sharing EVERYTHING with you on your schedule? Why can't he tell you when he is ready to talk? Sometimes there are things people don't want to share, regardless of how much they love you. Sometimes there are things you DON'T need to know, and you should be ok with that as long as they can assure you it isn't something crazy or dangerous (like he is a mass murdering cannibal that prefer the taste of baby flesh on a full moon night, or something along those lines). The man says he can't talk to you about it, it could be sensitive case material that he is bound not to share, but women gotta women. but whatever, this is the start of him down a dark path, so do what you gotta do Flash writers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 15, 2015, 11:47:04 AM
I gave both Arrow and the Flash a shot, but I just don't like either show.

The Arrow writers really, really want to write for Batman instead. Change the costume, swap out the girl for a butler and you have a bad version of Batman. Grim Dark this and Grim Dark that compounded with crazy poor lighting.

The Flash on the other hand has seriously awful "Drama" and the technobable is just bad. Makes me think back to the JLA cartoons and how good they are. Mark Hamill was nice, but came off wasted and needed more screen time while let loose to chew scenery.

Thunderbirds are Go.

Blah. This show is just schizophrenic. One moment it looks like bad CGI, the next it almost looks like classic TB, then you get awful mixed scenes. Over used the hell out of the countdown and in the first episode they have ready started reusing shots. Pacing was non-existent, at the rate they are going they are going to run out of disasters. Oh for **** sakes, there is bloody "Drama". It has no tension as they never have anything play out like they did in the original. The original Marionettes emote better and a lot more distinct. Unless there is a dramatic improvement with the next episode, I am out.

Danger 5 Season 1

And of course, KILL Hitler.

This is just wonderful. The amount of attention and effort to makes it look and feel 60's is stunning. It is delightfully asinine and surreal. Robots, diamond girls, dinosaurs, old school Thunderbird special effects, Hitler, sexism going both directions in equal measure, all played for laughs done straight.

Go watch this or I will use the sit down gun.

AOS coming from the break was stupid rough. I was hating everyone as everyone were completely off character despite the team having seen worst things happen. Simmons was the worse as she effectively loses her **** with her character completely disintegrating only to suddenly snap back. The writers are simply destroying her. With the last episode though the show finally pulled itself out of the hole it exploded itself into.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 15, 2015, 12:10:20 PM
I started watching Powers, and I'm up through episode 7. The show's incredibly...OK. Wolf is a cool antagonist and Royale has potential, but there's just something about the show that's lacking that's keeping it from reaching higher. I'm not quite sure what that is, but it's missing. I like Ensign Ro as Retro Girl from an acting perspective, but she just looks ridiculous in that costume.

Also, this show is the perfect example of why no one can have a cool superhero show if it's not set in the Marvel or DC universes. Everyone in this show has a dorky superhero name, and "Powers" as a proper noun for mutants just sounds dumb.  And if you thought the Sony product placement in Amazing Spider-Man 2 and House of Cards was ridiculous, welcome to Powers! Here, everyone has a Vaio laptop; plays Infamous Second Son on their PS4s; and watches TV on their Sony Televisions!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on April 15, 2015, 03:26:57 PM
[Agents of SHIELD] was another good ep.
and it's likely to be the spin-off to AoS. Popular guess right now is The Secret Warriors.

I was thinking it might have been something like he has been liaising with a certain gentleman about building an artificial intelligence program that operates in a version of Iron Man armour.

Speaking of which.  ONE WEEK TO GO!!!  I'm damn excited.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 15, 2015, 09:47:24 PM
BlackNMild:  I enjoy the cheesy Ray.  I like the idea of an extremely likable but socially awkward Billionaire that does whatever he can for people to like him, however he just comes across as foolish.  That is funny.  Now, the sex jokes will out of place and dumb.

Now, I get why Iris is mad, but once Barry explained things to her, she should have backed off or been more supportive.  But, she didn't even tell him what Barry said, or show any signs that if he was dealing with harsh reality of being a cop...she could support him.  Instead she was selfish.  That doesn't mean everyone else is right.  They should be telling Iris to protect her.  Right now her being in the dark is extremely dangerous.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 16, 2015, 12:55:05 AM
Hot Diggity. It's been awhile but when Arrow is on its game, it is great fun. Easily my favorite episode of season 3. It's great to see most of the cast being utilized so well (aside from Merlyn doing nothing). The flashbacks are still weak but at least an endgame and focus was presented there.

Frankly, I've felt things have been improving on the show from about the end of the Brick episodes when Oliver got back to Starling City from Nanda Parbat and then finally told Thea who he was. The show began to put a lot of characters back on track and started righting some of its wrongs from earlier in the season. While it hasn't always gone smoothly, it's gotten better and better and tonight is the first time it felt like the show of last year and even last half of season 1.

And thank you Ray Palmer for asking how many abandoned warehouses Starling City has. Sure, the show doesn't answer it or other questions (like the S.T.A.R. labs holding cells) but I do like that it at least seems to be showing an awareness of its faults which means it should be on the minds of the writers too and hopefully they'll continue to improve things. Still, very entertaining. Now hurry up and take over the League of Assassin's Oliver. Just do it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 16, 2015, 03:11:36 AM
I finished Daredevil

I just want to say that I enjoyed all of it, except the final suit.
I was really digging the all black suit, and after 13 episodes, I would like to see it just get armored up some. The prototype/unfinished red/black suit was kinda ugly.

Also there better be a s2 next year along side that Luke Cage or Iron Fist show, whichever comes first.
and did the Asian lady use some sort of mystical hand slap on Daredevil? she knocked the **** out of him. Then took off to her homeland "far beyond China"... Kun Lun maybe?
It also looked like the back of the door to Nelson and Murdock said K Lun on the back.... was I just imagining that?

ok, that's enough for random rambling thoughts, it's late. time to go to bed now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 16, 2015, 04:34:46 AM
Person of Interest threw a huge character curveball at me. Some incredible acting in that episode, and 90% of it was in a car!

The uneven pacing since the (admittedly fantastic) mid-season finale trilogy seems to have been deliberate to allow for a lot of breathing room since the events of that trilogy Shaw's departure, Reese's acceptance he's going to die eventually and Finch will be on his own, Root going off the rails following Shaw's loss to really settle in,

While the show doesn't lack in character development, putting that as the sole focus of an episode and then putting it all on Reese the way they did was bold.

This show deserves way more attention than what its getting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 16, 2015, 09:08:10 AM
That episode of POI is brilliant. In any other show it would have been a filler bottle episode to save money for the finale, but not POI. Turn that around into a short movie. Those writers have some serious balls.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 16, 2015, 03:50:58 PM
If this episode was put into Arrow as it was (replace Reese with Ollie and Carter with Tommy), it probably would be the best episode in the series. Given the limitations Arrow has - being the centre of the DC TV universe and has to be used to launchpad things for Flash, its unwillingness to develop secondary characters properly and the basic idea there is adventures going on that we miss Root in the wedding dress?! - an episode of this type would snap Arrow hard back into focus on the difficulties of the life Team Arrow leads and make it deeply personal.

But in POI its simply one fantastic episode in a long line of them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 16, 2015, 08:22:31 PM
I hate spoilers tags...so please, if you want to skip my post and not read, here is your warning.  I am going to be writing about The Arrow.

If you read my posts you know I have been supportive of this season of The Arrow even when others haven't.  The last episode was great, and I really love the battle of the Police Vs. Team Arrow.  I believe it is a believable story and an interesting one. 

What I haven't quite figured out is why hasn't Oliver accepted the position of "The Demon's Head?"  Now, I do not think he SHOULD accept it.  However, the show has done very little to present to the audience why the league of assassins is evil, or why Oliver couldn't turn it around and make it a force for good.  In fact Ra's al Ghul even said they are loyal and follow his commands.  This could have all been explained, by giving more time as the League as a big evil in the early episodes of season 3.  Even making the League kill Sarah would have gone a long way to making a more complete narrative.  Or showing Lazarus Pit's healing ability comes with a cost of sanity or "makes you darker or evil".  Anything. 

As of now, the course of the season shows Oliver eventually accepting the offer, and if this happens, I will call foul.  Why?  Simply put, there has been no reason to not accept the offer, and Oliver has put his city, his team, and his family in danger and through hell for a moral choice that hasn't been rationalized on screen. 

Now, I will be fair, and say I haven not seen season 1 of the show, so if season 1 had the league as a presence and showed them to be evil, then this rant is null and void. 

What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 16, 2015, 09:18:30 PM
The League barely had a presence in S2, I don't think they were in S1 at all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on April 16, 2015, 10:35:59 PM
Wasn't there an episode in 1 that alluded to the League or was that just early S2? I've fallen off the Arrow train hard. I am about to mount the Daredevil train though. Super stoked to start it (hopefully this weekend).


My wife is watching Scandal and it feels like a poor man's House of Cards from my tertiary point of view. I'm thinking she might enjoy HoC and I may start over with her on it since she likes these political scheme drama shows now.


Though we are going to start Game of Thrones S6 soon and that is a higher priority than HoC.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 17, 2015, 04:57:47 PM
I'm about 3/5 of the way through the 1st season of Farscape on BluRay and...it's OK. I feel like it's consistently good, but hasn't ever been exceptional so far. Plus, the guy who's supposed to be the main villain of this season isn't the least bit threatening because despite allegedly "chasing" the characters all season he's only shown up in TWO episodes so far (including the pilot) and the second time he wasn't even physically there. I do love the Muppet work, though, by the Jim Henson company and I just marvel at that makeup work. Some of those actors (like Zhaan and Chiana) must have been in makeup for half a day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 22, 2015, 08:11:33 PM
Daredevil
I finally got around to finishing it. I'll forgo a super long write up because no one reads those. Not marking spoilers.

I thoroughly enjoyed the show. The writing and performances generally are very strong. Every episode counted. My jaw dropped more than any other show in recent memory. I didn't expect several characters to be killed off. I liked that Wilson Fisk was given far more depth than I'm used to seeing with the character. He isn't the Kingpin yet, but he's getting there. Vincent D'Onofrio played the tortured, awkward sociopath well. Sometimes Charlie Cox came off as rigid though that may have been the point like he has trouble speaking to people because he's leading a double life and he also knows so much about the people around him before exchanging any words.

Anyway, Marci looks like young Jenna Maroney. The final suit needs work, but I think that's the point. I expect it to keep evolving as Potter has more time to improve the design. I can't tell if the look Karen gave Matt at the very end holds any significance. After Matt extends his hand, Karen glances up and there's a close up on her. Was she starting to piece together that Matt is Daredevil? Was she about to tell him what she did? Maybe she was starting to find a little peace?

EDIT: Rephrased something to sound vague since it was at the bottom and might be caught if someone glances trying to scroll past my post.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 22, 2015, 09:45:57 PM
The last episode of the Flash was good.  They seem to be slowing down the story some.  The episodes feel more like the beginning of the season with element that helps push the season story forward, but mostly is about the "meta" of the week. 

You can tell they are gearing up for something special, but at the same time they are positioning themselves for season 2.  I really think season 1 will end with a crazy cliffhanger...and I got a pretty crazy twist in mind, that if it happens would truly be surprising.  I am going to keep it to myself for now, but as a clue it takes the Flash point idea and really turns it on its head.  It would be a good season 2 2 part opener. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 23, 2015, 02:40:58 AM
Gotham: what an exposition heavy episode which should, really, have been about the ogre.

POI took an entire episode and made it majority on Reese (oohhboy knows which one) and held it there. Gotham tried to do the same at one point then came crashing down when it had that "oh **** the season is almost over!" feeling and crammed everything in. And Fox is on the way soon too!

This show has no hope of wanting to be actually good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on April 26, 2015, 09:25:24 PM
Oh, geeze.  I just watched the "GamerGate" episode of Law & Order: SVU from earlier this year.

Suddenly, I'm looking forward to the new Fantastic Four movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on April 29, 2015, 01:55:14 AM
Ok. So, to my surprise, Person of Interest is pretty much dealing with all the ongoing conflicts they've been setting up at once and bringing them all to a head. I thought one or two of the conflicts might carry on into next season. The HR conflict went until Season 3 and I thought the Elias/Dominic might go into next year also..

Yet, why am I not pumped about it? Why did this episode leave me cold? There were times I got a bit excited but when it ended, I'm not feeling pumped about the season finale next week. I have no feeling of "I want to see the next episode NOW!". Just more of a ho-hum guess I'll have to remember to check in next week for the ending. Maybe I'm just really tired. Anyone else feeling the same way?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on April 29, 2015, 08:40:48 PM
Anyone watching the Avengers cartoon? They pretty much just ran through the Age of Ultron, Civil War, and Ant Man in the last few episodes. They even used some of the lines from the movie There are no strings on me.

I haven't read the comics, but the plot points seem like the only plausible ones....soooo did they just spoil those movies?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 29, 2015, 09:48:24 PM
HOLY **** POI EPISODE

I was like OH SNAP when that happened. Laughing like a manic when that other thing happened. JUST HOLY **** on Repeat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 11, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
I haven't seen it but I am really looking forward to the next to episodes of The Flash.  I just watched the extended trailer for the Flash episode, and I am truly excited season finale, I really think this next 2 episodes are big, and I am really glad the Rogues are taking a center role in the finale. 

Now, Arrow I am also looking forward to the season finale.  I feel like this last season hasn't been strong, and the overall arc involving Raz Al Ghul has been weak, but I want to at least see the end, and where they take the series next.  I really hope that they can deliver. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2015, 07:55:26 PM
The flash finale is supposedly the backdoor pilot, or jump off point for the spinoff.

Next season of Arrow is supposedly going to embrace the comicbookness of the unified shows a lot more than it has this season, if what I read somewhere was accurate.

It's gonna be a good week of TV this week just between AoS and The Flash.
Everything else is just icing.



Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 11, 2015, 08:00:44 PM
The flash finale is supposedly the backdoor pilot, or jump off point for the spinoff.

Next season of Arrow is supposedly going to embrace the comicbookness of the unified shows a lot more than it has this season, if what I read somewhere was accurate.

It's gonna be a good week of TV this week just between AoS and The Flash.
Everything else is just icing.


If I was a betting man I would guess that the Finale is Flashpoint, and the events of saving his mom has a huge impact on the world.  I also do not think season 2 will be about fixing those mistakes, but dealing with it or living with it.

So I think Flashpoint may make some heroes villains and some villains heroes...and really be something special and crazy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on May 12, 2015, 09:07:40 AM
Well there was some leaked photo's showing alot of the CW heroes and villains on a roof talking, so either the Flash Finale has something related to Legends of Tomorrow or they were flming a promo to air this week and next like the Flash/Arrow promo from last year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 12, 2015, 07:52:09 PM
Tonight's episode I hope they truly take advantage of The Arrow being in the League. 

I would love to see the Heroes drop down and the Flash makes his statement about not being able to fight all three of us, and then Oliver says who says anything about 3...and the League surrounds them all. 

I just think 3 guys can't take out an evil speedster, no matter how good they are.  What can 2 normal speed heroes do?  We already know Reverse Flash can "Speed Phase" So the Arrow has nothing he can do.  Now, Firestorm has potential, but his powers almost make him a liability as well.  However, seeing the League try to take down the Reverse Flash would be awesome. 

(Note:  I do not think this will happen, but it would have been cool.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on May 12, 2015, 11:53:03 PM
Well if Firestrom has access to all his comic powers than he could easily one shot wells.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 13, 2015, 12:11:30 AM
Well if Firestrom has access to all his comic powers than he could easily one shot wells.

True, but this is a Firestorm that barely knows how to use his powers...so I don't think so.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 13, 2015, 01:11:40 AM
I would have enjoyed tonight's Flash episode so much more if all the trailers & the internet hadn't spoiled the **** out of it a month ago. Still a great episode, though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 13, 2015, 06:18:47 AM
Oliver should have sniped Wells before he joined the group. Would have saved some time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 14, 2015, 12:24:13 AM
So yeah, Arrow:

So this is presumably how Ray gets his Atom powers without needing the suit.

Interesting twist Malcolm becoming the top dog. Very curious to see how that turns out.

Was hoping for more Flash involvement. Pretty lame crossover.

I was surprised that Oliver stayed in the LoA gear. I would have thought he would have gone back to his green gear for the final fight. Though lucky he didn't because apparently it's bullet proof to the extent that 3 sniper rounds to the chest doesn't even wind you.

More hints thrown down for DIggle getting a costume. I wonder if they have someone for him to become if they will make up a new hero for him.

Let's hope that next season there are no more flashbacks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 14, 2015, 12:35:47 AM
Season 3 was big drop in quality compared Arrow seasons one and two, but at least the finale was entertaining. They probably should have done a 16 episode season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 14, 2015, 05:32:30 AM
I would love for the next season not have Oliver in the show for at least 4-5 episodes and have Diggle be the main hero.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 14, 2015, 08:16:03 AM
3 sniper rounds to the chest, no problem.

Green Lantern reference as well

So Ray get blown up, gets his shrinking powers, is presumed dead? But already signed over Palmer Technologies to Felicity, who marries Oliver before she knows about it, then renames the company Queen Industies (after herself: Felicity Queen), to which Oliver get to run in some capacity, and this is what draws them back to Starling City.

Malcolm becoming Ra's Al Ghul was a surprise I didn't expect.
Thea becoming Red Arrow/Speedy finally happened.
Diggle FINALLY getting some action, and hopefully an actual costume sounds great. Maybe he runs across the list Ferris Air Test Pilot, and discovers he crashed into an alien ship. Both are practically dead, but not before the alien hands Diggle a ring. And that's how he gets his costume.

I also watched The Flash. Capt Cold just chews up every damn scene he's in. It's great. I love it. His sister follows sit, making Cisco feel quite awkward. Good stuff.
I think the spinoff will be quite interesting.

Hopefully Supergirl gets crossed over at some point as well. That looked interesting enough, even if that trailer was a mash up of everything a girl would want in a superhero show of her own (romantic dramdedy with super powers) with just enough action to get the boys to watch too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 14, 2015, 09:04:50 AM
The Arrow season finale was darn entertaining.  I loved that they ended the story and you could walk away from the series happy.  Though, I am excited about Season 4...I believe we can actually get a HAPPY more whimsical Arrow next season...I would love a less broody show next season.  BlackNMild, I think you are right.  It is a perfect way to get Oliver Queen back into Starling City, and get the business back, and basically do an entire show reboot.  I feel it has to be coming, The first 3 seasons were good, but I am ready for Arrow to become someone different...to be SOMETHING different.  (Like an actual fun Green Arrow Show...not a dark drama.) 

As for the last episode of the Flash, that was great.  I was an episode worthy to be a season finale, and Captain Cold is just so much fun.  They really make the audience like him.  Which makes me worried that he is going to move over to the Other Series...The Flash without Captain Cold will be sad...afterall, I find him a more compelling villain than the Reverse Flash. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 19, 2015, 08:21:43 PM
Powers

Good GOD the first 3 episodes are bad. They are crazy badly written in an aimless mess that barely has any purpose and for all intents and purposes could be skipped.

Then there are the Characters. This show has the largest collection of hateable character in any show. It's not a DS9 Ki Winn you love to hate because you are suppose to hate. Just hate because they are awful. Especially Calista who I wish would suffer the worse death upon. The only character I like is Walker as he is a powerless asshole, but he is our powerless asshole who looks like a washed up wreak and naked Eddie Izzard.

It then has a dramatic improvement with episode 4/5 with BLOOOOOD everywhere and Eddie Izzard ripping this show a new one before the following episodes settles on "OK". The special effects through out the show is on level with the 90's as they pretty much blew their budget on their hated cast of characters.

In a massive surprise this is getting a second season. If Calista just straight up disappears like she got erased Stalin style I would approve.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 20, 2015, 06:01:51 PM
That Flash Finale was amazing.  But where do they go from here.  I kinda hope they have a soft reset...I don't want Barry to completely fix this.  I want to see a new timeline develop again...because well the events that just happened would have huge ramifications on literally EVERYTHING!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 20, 2015, 07:31:39 PM
I don't like the way they handled time travel in this episode.


Eddie kills himself and ends his bloodline.
Wells disappears on the spot.

Okay...

...but shouldn't Wells have never existed?
...no going back in time to kill Barry's mother.
...no killing the real Wells.
...no particle accelerator.
...no making Barry the Flash.
(...incidentally, no Eddie killing himself... which means Wells existed... which means....)

Why did *only* wells disappear, and why at *that* exact moment?  Not even the moment Eddie died - just about the same time he shot himself.

Gr.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 20, 2015, 08:04:51 PM
I don't like the way they handled time travel in this episode.


Eddie kills himself and ends his bloodline.
Wells disappears on the spot.

Okay...

...but shouldn't Wells have never existed?
...no going back in time to kill Barry's mother.
...no killing the real Wells.
...no particle accelerator.
...no making Barry the Flash.
(...incidentally, no Eddie killing himself... which means Wells existed... which means....)

Why did *only* wells disappear, and why at *that* exact moment?  Not even the moment Eddie died - just about the same time he shot himself.

Gr.


I interpret that exact chain of events as being the reason the singularity ripped open again, as Time was shredding trying to reconcile the paradox. It's basically Doc Brown's biggest fears in the Back to the Future movies made manifest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 20, 2015, 09:32:29 PM
I believe that is why the vortex is happening.  Yes, It should have been instantaneous however, this is a huge time anomaly.  But they wanted to visualize it.


After all this is a huge event.  It should affect everything.  This event should mean that this current timeline is destroyed.

Reverse Flash was never born which creates a world ending paradox.  I mean if Eddie dies...that means the Reverse Flash never killed Flash's mom which means the first Barry Allen from the first timeline is the only Barry Allen.  That this whole Timeline and story we saw doesn't exist or can't happen...period.  However, if that is true then Eddie would have never killed himself because the events in this timeline lead him to do so...which means the events in this timeline DID happen.


This is what is causing the time anomaly...and since they have to have an event that can be stopped instead ofinstantaneous we get the time vortex thingie.

I still hope that time is reset and we our Barry Allen running into Earth 2 and his time is gone ended.  Then we can have a 2 part season opener with Barry and other Barry trying to fix history.

 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 20, 2015, 10:20:46 PM
This is precisely why I hate time travel.

I thought the finale was pretty meh.  No real fight between Barry and Wells, time travel nonsense, cliffhanger ending, Wells being killed. 

Cool bits:  lots of hints for future characters, the episode 1 should be pretty good going by the way it ended (I still prefer closure over cliffhangers), not too much whining from Iris.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 20, 2015, 11:24:28 PM
This is precisely why I hate time travel.

I thought the finale was pretty meh.  No real fight between Barry and Wells, time travel nonsense, cliffhanger ending, Wells being killed. 

Cool bits:  lots of hints for future characters, the episode 1 should be pretty good going by the way it ended (I still prefer closure over cliffhangers), not too much whining from Iris.

We had the big fight with Wells last episode and it was pretty awesome.  I personally was glad we didn't get that fight again...we got it like 5 times this season.  I liked that it appeared everyone was working together one last time.  I liked the you saw a glimpse at Wells evil plan when he stated:  "You didn't save her?"  Showing, that just saving her could have prevented the Flash from being created.  Possibly creating another paradox.  I loved the hints of new characters, and the fact that this episode was focused on the characters not the action. 

This was a great finale, except I hate cliffhanger finales. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 21, 2015, 04:29:26 AM
Arrow - An inconsistent end to an inconsistent season. The only good thing in the episode was Diggle and Oliver actually having some actual issues between them. Great to see Speedy take over the red suit. The show suffered in having to setup both Flash and Legends, balance them and play its own stories.

Gotham - There's high chance i'm not watching next season. It meandered about heavily, completely unsure of itself and only began to settle when it reached its intended season finale (episode 13 i think?), and then everything after that felt like OH LETS STRETCH IT OUT by returning to meander. Everything with Barbara i can skip entirely. The only interesting twist i liked was Selena with Fish. It gave Selena something a bit more to handle and was barely even touched upon. Way too much in the show is "because the plot needs this to happen" and everything else services that plot point.

Person of Interest - Best season finale of all the shows i watched, but that's not hard. The Machine finally talking to its creator, resigning itself to die and admitting she has failed Finch. Both Root and Reese in God Mode, going utterly badass against the Brotherhood and Samaritan goons while she talks to Finch about their relationship. The rules have changed again and god has, basically, shrank to a carry-on. CBS has given season 5 13 episodes rather than 22, so i'd expect this to be the last season. Sad because there's still quite a few stories left to tell.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on May 21, 2015, 08:15:39 PM
Frankly if you are going to do Time Travel you can't go mixing things.  Its one thing for Barry to come back to a different timeline after he changes.  Its another for an event in the present on a timeline to effect the past of that timeline.  Just means a different timeline would be like the original timeline.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 21, 2015, 09:47:05 PM

I honestly think the writers did not sit down and discuss how they were going to do this...but instead thought about how to make a good/interesting story first. 

For instance Rogue Time should have set up the rules for time travel...only Barry (the Time Traveler) and Cisco the Meta-human with time displacement power can remember.  And the changes are instantaneous.  And I think that those rules were clearly established.

So what is happening at the end?  Well, I think first we can assume that Barry always went, back to the past to save himself and saw himself stop him...all those events are in the past and happened, we just didn't know it yet because we were following the story from present Barry's perspective.

Second, the event that happened at the end, was so big that it caused an anomaly in time.  The paradox rips through time and space...it basically has caused time and events that CAN'T happen...so time is being destroyed...or that is my take. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 21, 2015, 11:10:10 PM
So the only way to fix it is for Barry to run just far back enough in time for him to stop Thawne from shooting himself in the chest, and instead redirect the aim of the gun to shoot either:
1: Wells, killing him dead on the spot.
or
2: Thawnes own dick and balls, rendering him a sterile eunuch, unable to reproduce, but still alive.
therefore still rending future Eobard as impossible, but not tearing an instant time hole in the space above the city.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 22, 2015, 08:00:23 PM
So Supergirl pilot:

I quite liked it. Was a good amount of Supergirl in it, and go into the action very quickly. The whole self doubt thing was over and done with in a few minutes. And I loved the music too. The Supergirl music, not the chicflick stuff.

I have no idea who the villain was. Was he an existing character or just something made for the show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 22, 2015, 08:51:30 PM
So Supergirl pilot:

I quite liked it. Was a good amount of Supergirl in it, and go into the action very quickly. The whole self doubt thing was over and done with in a few minutes. And I loved the music too. The Supergirl music, not the chicflick stuff.

I have no idea who the villain was. Was he an existing character or just something made for the show?

the pilot is out?

....off to the interwebz
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 22, 2015, 08:58:55 PM
It is. I dare say they did a Flash and 'leaked' the pilot early to generate hype. Didn't hurt the Flash.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on May 23, 2015, 09:19:45 AM
Its probably a good thing the supergirl pilot for intentional leaked. Hopefully they realize the only bad feedback seems to come from superman existing in the universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 23, 2015, 10:31:55 AM
Maybe the Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey stuff in the Flash will eliminate her cousin from the timeline.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 23, 2015, 11:28:30 AM
All the FX look early. I didn't finish the episode yet (put it on super late last nite), but it seems like an interesting show. Superman being a part of this seems to lessen the chances of a crossover, unless the stuff that happens in The Flash leads to the crossover in the first place multi-verse!?.

speaking of that....

If The Flash were to cross over into the multi-verse, a world where Superman had been around for years, Supergirl just became a thing, Green Arrow uses fun trick arrows and isn't so dark and brooding, and some of his villains are actually good guys, while some of his friends may actually be villians (Killer "Kaitlin" Frost?) that could be an interesting way to reset the whole arrowverse.... Arrow in particular.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 15, 2015, 02:03:27 AM
*sigh* I think I'm done with Game of Thrones. That season finale was pretty much the last straw on top of what was a pretty mediocre season. Haven't felt this depressed about the state of the show since the Red Wedding, and for very similar reasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on June 15, 2015, 08:31:07 AM
I just binged the season on HBO Go a few days before the finale. A few things got spoiled for me. It was a mostly slow season until the last three or four episodes. I liked the finale a lot.

I don't believe Jon Snow is dead though the producers are saying this particular character is. Sounds like a red herring to me. Putting on my tinfoil hat: Melisandre returned to Castle Black, and she is supposedly still there. My guess is Ser Davos will find Jon Snow first and take him to Melisandre. She believed Stannis to be Azor Ahai reborn which is clearly not true now. The show has been hinting that Jon Snow may be Azor Ahai, and notably that Stannis isn't. Even if Jon Snow isn't Azor Ahai (or that there is no Azor Ahai), Melisandre just has to think he is in order to invoke the Lord of Light to bring him back like Thoros did for Beric back in season three (and a bunch of times off-screen before that). Then, there's Sam's line: "Jon always comes back." Maybe a bit too on the nose, but it is there. Also, Jon Snow's death would leave no real payoff to who his mother is. It isn't one of those thing you build up through all those books and seasons only to discard for shock value. I don't think this is where Jon Snow dies even if he does by the end of the show/books.

I'm glad there were a couple great payoffs in the finale, namely Brienne of Tarth and Arya. I think Reek's story is a work in progress. He got a bit of redemption even if Sansa is still mostly useless. I guess we'll see where that one goes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 15, 2015, 08:06:44 PM
*sigh* I think I'm done with Game of Thrones. That season finale was pretty much the last straw on top of what was a pretty mediocre season. Haven't felt this depressed about the state of the show since the Red Wedding, and for very similar reasons.


Don't give up! I had to give my wife a pep tal after the finally because she was raging. She says I am in denial, but I am completely convinced that the final death is not the end of that character. They may tease it out as long as they can, but by the end of next season we will see it for what it really is. Jon had to die to be absolved from his vows to the Night's watch. Now he can truly go kick some ass!


We also started Daredevil. Only three episodes in due to other weekend plans (and a Game of Thrones meltdown). But we are hooked on the show. Very engaging so far. I may like it better than Arrow S1, but I'll save that judgment for the end of the season. I like how it just cut to the chase of him being a vigilante and gave us the background later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 15, 2015, 09:24:44 PM
Game of Thrones was the best episode of any show that left me completely pissed off about the season being over. I don't think it's the end for that character. There were leaked photos from the episode before it aired that may reveal what happens (his eyes turned white, like his little brother's do when he wargs into animals). I need to replay it in slow motion to see if that actually happens.

Also the CGI face swapping during the walk of shame was terrible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 06, 2015, 11:04:58 PM
Fox News TV show job interview - 0/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 06, 2015, 11:41:55 PM
What are you talking about?! That was the funniest live performance I've seen in YEARS!!

Sure, some characters were a little flat, but others had great chemistry while a few made sport out of stealing the show.  That left only the audience as the winner.

9.5/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 07, 2015, 03:01:39 AM
What are you both talking about? I feel this is something I need to see.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 07, 2015, 09:28:07 AM
Can't talk politics, but there was a top 10 best if the worst show on a channel I mentioned last night.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 18, 2015, 11:14:54 PM
Rick and Morty s02e04

10/10

The show, while always entertaining, has had trouble really making me laugh like it consistently did the first season. That changed with this latest episode. Hilarious, endearing, and zany; this is why everyone should watch this show. The joke that they setup all through the show is worthy of an Emmy alone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2015, 12:38:43 AM
Rick and Morty s02e04

10/10

The show, while always entertaining, has had trouble really making me laugh like it consistently did the first season. That changed with this latest episode. Hilarious, endearing, and zany; this is why everyone should watch this show. The joke that they setup all through the show (starting with the opening credits) is worthy of an Emmy alone.

FTFY

and I agree
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 07, 2015, 10:14:56 PM
I finished Agents of SHIELD Season 2. It was better than the first season though not without some major faults. The character who seemed like the main villain was killed off too soon then the villain of the second half felt rushed. That said, the writing was still uneven with weird pacing issues yet still far better than the first season which didn't feel like it had any direction until around the Captain America: The Winter Solider tie-in.

The show has way too many characters and not enough I care about. ABC ordered a pilot starring Mockingbird and Lance Hunter which sucks only because I liked those characters and if that show is picked up, Agents of SHIELD is still stuck with stupid Lincoln and Grant Ward (who, admittedly, was better this season). Skye is a badass now apparently though I guess I should stop calling her that.

In any case, the season was pretty good. As far as Marvel shows go, Daredevil mops the floor with Agents of SHIELD. The former feels more like an extension of the movies. The writing, acting, and directing are all sharper in Daredevil though kudos to the directors of the John Wick-esque scene in episode 19 and the Mockingbird fight in episode 21.

Nice ending to the season though I think I'd care more if Jemma was more consistent. Sometimes she's fine, other times, I want to see her get kicked in the face. Send more mixed signals Fitz's way, jerk.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 08, 2015, 12:15:33 AM
Wife and I finished AoS S2 as well yesterday. And I agree, Daredevil is much more well put together, but I just feel more invested in AoS. I think it has to do with the direct connection to the MCU versus something that, for the time being, is far more of it's own thing.


Some people have theorized that Jemma [spoilers]will become a villain with how she closed out the season and truth be told, I had a feeling it was coming one way or another. Her whole cold-hearted demeanor in certain situations (Sky's InHunamization) may be a foreshadowing of things to come.[/spoilers] At the very least I can see Jemma taking Tony's side in the Civil War and it gives me great hope for the show doing a solid story arc about the Civil War.


With how things have accelerated in AoS I wonder how the In Humans movie will play out. Seems like a lot of time for the show to have to roll before the movie hits. Also, we have not seen the end of Cal. There is a precedent in the show for folks returning from that state, but it gives him a chance to be givien a break. I enjoyed his character and would like to see him come back fully as Mister Hyde.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 09, 2015, 04:18:29 AM
Breaking Bad.

Wow. The hype for this is real. It's far too tense to marathon though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2015, 05:08:59 AM
Oh man, you're in for a treat. One of very, very few serialized shows to really end well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 09, 2015, 05:30:35 AM
I have finished it. Only thing I would add is "Go fucking watch it, BITCH". **** FLY and almost lost my **** with Face Off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2015, 05:51:39 AM
It's probably a very close second behind The Wire as my all time favorite TV drama, and arguably more impressive given they were able to pull it off without the greater creative freedom a network like HBO provides.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 09, 2015, 10:36:54 AM
It's probably a very close second behind The Wire as my all time favorite TV drama, and arguably more impressive given they were able to pull it off without the greater creative freedom a network like HBO provides.

If that's your top 2, then I hope The Shield is the next on your list.

That's still my #1 with Breaking Bad and The Wire also rounding out my Top 3
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Ceric on September 09, 2015, 07:23:39 PM
I found Breaking Bad sort of meh.  If they would have cut say 1/3 to 1/2 of it I be less inclined.  It just so slow...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2015, 07:29:29 PM
It's probably a very close second behind The Wire as my all time favorite TV drama, and arguably more impressive given they were able to pull it off without the greater creative freedom a network like HBO provides.

If that's your top 2, then I hope The Shield is the next on your list.

That's still my #1 with Breaking Bad and The Wire also rounding out my Top 3

I haven't watched The Shield. I've been meaning to, just haven't gotten around to it yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on September 23, 2015, 10:43:55 AM
Season 3 finale of Nickelodeon's TMNT is one of the most bizzarre finales i ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 23, 2015, 05:09:52 PM
New TV season is here!

Over the summer: Killjoys, Dark Matter and Extant. Killjoys and Dark Matter were both fun little scifi's that didn't take itself too seriously. Extant was pretty impressive for it's storyline and how the hybrids suddenly became nearly all-black and didnt make a big buzz about it

Blindspot, Scream Queens (because im curious), Continuum (on its final 6 episode season) are all up first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 28, 2015, 05:22:16 PM
I finished Dexter Seasons 1 through 4. I think BlackNMild said to stop there. My coworker also said the same. She said the rest is horrible. Another friend said (I think) Season 6 is okay (may have been Season 7) if only because it's the best of the last four seasons. In a way, it's the least terrible but still also terrible. Personally, of what I've seen, I'd rank the seasons: 2>4>1>3.

I don't know what happens in the following seasons besides a certain actor being revealed as one of the villains. I don't really see where the writers can go with the story besides everyone in homocide figuring out Dexter is a serial killer. How many times can they play that card though? Season 2 was excellent, mainly because it was set up so perfectly by season 1. Season 4 was good because there was actually a killer worse than Dexter. It largely works. If Showtime or the showrunners insisted on a season 5, that should have been it. They should have worked toward a conclusion. Revisiting the end of Season 2 makes the most sense with Dexter mostly on the run. I don't know how much more needs to be said about these characters so knowing there's four more seasons leads me to believe there's a lot of stalling.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 28, 2015, 07:31:49 PM
Heroes Reborn

Get Fucked. Have they learned nothing. It's unfocused mess putting out far too many plot lines at once. At least the action is better although half of it is some terrible CGI vomit. They likely front loaded that so the rest of the episodes will pretty much be people in a room talking.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 28, 2015, 08:49:05 PM
Season 3 finale of Nickelodeon's TMNT is one of the most bizzarre finales i ever seen.

Better than season 1s ending... About the same as seasons two.  I thought it felt alittle rushed, but fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2015, 05:12:34 PM
I finished Dexter Seasons 1 through 4. I think BlackNMild said to stop there. My coworker also said the same. She said the rest is horrible. Another friend said (I think) Season 6 is okay (may have been Season 7) if only because it's the best of the last four seasons. In a way, it's the least terrible but still also terrible. Personally, of what I've seen, I'd rank the seasons: 2>4>1>3.

I don't know what happens in the following seasons besides a certain actor being revealed as one of the villains. I don't really see where the writers can go with the story besides everyone in homocide figuring out Dexter is a serial killer. How many times can they play that card though? Season 2 was excellent, mainly because it was set up so perfectly by season 1. Season 4 was good because there was actually a killer worse than Dexter. It largely works. If Showtime or the showrunners insisted on a season 5, that should have been it. They should have worked toward a conclusion. Revisiting the end of Season 2 makes the most sense with Dexter mostly on the run. I don't know how much more needs to be said about these characters so knowing there's four more seasons leads me to believe there's a lot of stalling.

Your final thoughts are on point. the final 4 seasons are terrible and the actual conclusion is so stupid, that you would wish you stopped at the end of S4 and just made up your own finale.

Lets just say that Dexter gets sloppier and sloppier and no one is any closer to finding out his truth. And it wasn't so much as him just making bad choices and leaving behind evidence, as it was just terrible writing and stupid plots that left holes big enough to walk through just to advance the "plot".

Stop at end of S4. John Lithgow was truly a highlite of the series, and just imagine your own conclusion from there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 29, 2015, 05:14:21 PM
Gotham S2: Season of the Joker

It's happening. they couldn't have found a better actor to play the part (of not-the-joker) either. He looks the part, sounds the part and plays the part so well. S2 is gonna be so much fun, I can just tell.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 29, 2015, 07:18:05 PM
Episode 2 of Gotham was pretty fun, very chaotic. GCPD is in over its head.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 30, 2015, 03:17:34 AM
Continuum - A six episode final season where, in episode four, just like Lost, they go OH **** THE SHOW IS ENDING and start panic writing where the previous three episodes they were wheel spinning heavily doing a lot of not-much. Some shows really haven't learned from the mistakes of Lost, it seems. Also, the loss of Travis (Roger Cross) is noticeable, he's had three scenes over four episodes probably because this was filming at the same time as Dark Matter.

Blunt Talk - Patrick Stewart sticking his head in the breasts of a transgendered prostitute, proclaiming he's alright with it because "i'm english".  Pretty funny and he carries the show with his energy and charming enthusiasm.

Scream Queens - I think BNM will hate episode 1 of this because of the constant casual racism dashed out everywhere - which stops in episode two.. But i will continue giving it a go to see how it leads on.

Blindspot - An interest premise and unlike most other shows with a strong premise (Person of Interest, Almost Human come to mind) it hasn't just dumped it and fallen into a straight procedural format to sprinkle it out later.

Minority Report - Come back Almost Human, all is forgiven. You had better actors, a more interesting premise and better writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 30, 2015, 06:02:32 AM
I wonder if Gotham will introduce a vigilante this season that ends up failing or dying at the end of the season, but captures Bruce Wayne's imagination to see what more you could become.  I think it would be a clever way for him to learn that a disguise and persona of fear is important...and realize that you must be perfect to survive as a vigilante. 


Heck what if it leads to season 2 Bruce Wayne being the first "Robin?"  It would be interesting and add to the mythos that Bruce started young and that is why he takes kids under his wings to do the same...he barely survived and he wants to train them to do better than he did.




Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 01, 2015, 12:55:38 AM
Agents of SHIELD S2 opener.

we are off to a good start.

Skye Daisy was looking great.
Mack was looking for a new axe... possibly attached to a shotgun
Fitz has come a LOOOOONG way from where he started back in season one, unfortuately Simmons has gone a much much longer way from where she started instantrimshot.com
The opening effects were good, and the action was on point. I think the only thing that could have used improvement was to tweak the design of the main villain a little. Other than that, we got a good 1-2 combo popping off with the Gotham/AoS monday/tuesday comic show kick-off.

when does the new season Arrowverse start? I'm eager to see if The Flash can raise the bar, and to see if Arrow can recover after shitting the bed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 01, 2015, 11:26:37 PM
Arrow and Flash and iZombie start next week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 02, 2015, 01:28:07 AM
i Zombie was alright. I enjoyed it. I'm down to check out a S2.

The Flash I'm looking forward to. S1 was a lot of fun, and S2 sounds like it's not holding back, so I'm definitely down with a S2.

Arrow... I'm only giving this a chance because it will eventually cross over with The Flash, and I want to see how they both tie into the other spin-off as well. Arrow S3 really left me sour on the show. Like they just took the suck that was the very end of S2 and just ran that further into the ground.
Hopefully S4 is a complete turn around, to at least the levels of the best of S2, but I'm not all that hopeful. Worse case scenario, I'll hate watch it just so I'm caught up for the eventual crossovers. I really hope they manage to hook me back in though, as I really want to love the show again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 07, 2015, 01:10:32 AM
Gotham Pretty good episode, a lot of fun. Too bad about Jerome-ker. Maybe he will come back somehow? also, Alfred is thirsty!

Flash Wrapped up the season 1 cliffhanger a little too cleanly. The thing with Barry's newly freed Dad running off so his son can be his own man seemed a little jammed in there for plot convience

iZombie fun as ever. Major is a hired gun, cleaning up Seattle.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 07, 2015, 07:08:06 AM
Shyguy:  I liked the part with his dad.  Personally, I think he is doing it for himself...he needs a new start in life, he lost 14 years, and I am sure Central City would be a hard place to live.  I also was OK with the seemingly fast wrap up of the singularty...but honestly, it isn't wrapped up.  There is going to be more.  Honestly, it was almost a perfect season opener.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 07, 2015, 04:45:52 PM
I cannot stand Jay Garrick's damn hat.  Looks so bad.  Why they thought it'd be a good idea in live action boggles the mind. 

Also, Cisco's reaction after Stein named Atom Smasher was wonderful. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 07, 2015, 05:08:35 PM
Re: Gotham

Guess the jokes on me... :/

Hope they find a way to make sure he laughs again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 07, 2015, 05:47:36 PM
Minority Report is almost guaranteed to get cancelled with the way how its ratings have tanked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 07, 2015, 10:28:43 PM
I heard it was pretty boring.

How are ratings for Limitless?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 08, 2015, 12:53:15 AM
So the season premiere of Arrow didn't fill me with hope. I find myself struggling to be compelled to care about these characters any more. The new villain isn't bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2015, 12:57:32 AM
So the season premiere of Arrow didn't fill me with hope. I find myself struggling to be compelled to care about these characters any more. The new villain isn't bad.

I haven't watched it yet... I see this getting back-burned for a possible marathon if I ever bother to get around to it, if your enthusiasm about it is anything to judge it by.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 08, 2015, 01:06:52 AM
"Felicity, You have failed... this omelete."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2015, 01:28:18 AM
I just really want The Arrow to embrace the Comic Book nature of the characters.  Give Black Canary a REAL Canary Cry and not some device.  Give the Green Arrow actual Trick Arrows.  Why he can't have Arrows with Tasers for the Arrow Head is beyond me...it would help him not to kill.  Also, The Flash has proved that fully accepting the comic book nature of your character can work. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 08, 2015, 03:37:50 AM
I heard it was pretty boring.

How are ratings for Limitless?

It is boring, except for how in every single scene Meagan Good seems to be wearing a top perfectly arranged for maximum cleavage viewing angles. It's ratings are 2.9m now (losing 50% in three episodes since the pilot, already far lower than what Almost Human ever achieved)

Limitless is doing just shy of 10m. I haven't started.

My TV schedule is much too big this season and some shows will need to be cut soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 08, 2015, 08:12:20 AM
After Watching the Season 4 episode of Arrow, I am hopeful.  Personally, it feels like they could be doing a sorta reboot in a sense.

They are calling him the Green Arrow, they seem to have told the audience that the Green Arrow is trying to be something different.  The Flash backs are back to the Island presumably where Oliver will face his dark demons one last time...and they had an awesome surprise at the end that points to the direction of the entire season. 

Plus they had at least one trick arrow already and sense the Green Arrow may be going up against some powered villains I expect more trick arrows are coming.  The Flash and the Arrow should be great this year, this may be like Buffy and Angel all over again, except potentially a hell of a lot better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 20, 2015, 12:14:01 AM
Gotham: So are they doing Court of Owls or Order of Saint Dumas here?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 20, 2015, 04:27:30 AM
Blunt Talk: I thought this would be a show about Patrick Stewart being ridiculous (well, it is, actually)... but somewhere towards last week's episode (ep 9) it started revealing all the other characters being just as fucked up and just as screwy as Walter Blunt himself.

I read somewhere that the show is best described as a live-action Bojack Horseman thats slightly more toned down. That's an accurate description.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 21, 2015, 05:42:52 AM
Minority Report fell yet again and is now down to 1.8m. That's low even by UK standards (and big budget scifi is rare-to-impossible here).

I'm actually amazed the show is still going, this should have been yanked from the schedule by now. If there was any doubt before of whether it's going to be pulled, there definitely isnt now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 21, 2015, 09:43:56 PM
Well, the premise just sounded awful.  Minority Report is a concept movie.  It is a story that asks a simple question...is pre-emptive security better than responding to events after the fact...and explores the concept and gives an answer.

The whole story and character revolves only around asking that question...there really isn't much of a world to explore.  So as a TV show there was no place for it to go.

A.I.  is also the same type of movie, but at least that world is deeper.  I wonder how West World will hold up as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 22, 2015, 06:00:46 PM
Well, the premise just sounded awful.  Minority Report is a concept movie.  It is a story that asks a simple question...is pre-emptive security better than responding to events after the fact...and explores the concept and gives an answer.

The whole story and character revolves only around asking that question...there really isn't much of a world to explore.  So as a TV show there was no place for it to go.

A.I.  is also the same type of movie, but at least that world is deeper.  I wonder how West World will hold up as well.

Given the people behind Westworld also did Person of Interest (which itself took the basic concept of AI and has gone in wild directions) i have faith they can pull it off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 22, 2015, 07:58:21 PM
3 Episodes in and I can't get a bead on Arrow this season.  They said they were going for a different feel in the show, but honestly it feels the same.  If you like the style of drama Arrow is, then you will like this season.  They have worked hard to build a family of support character, but with the villains just as intermingled with the heroes it seems too much. 

The Flash also feels exactly the same, but at least that is a good thing.  However, I feel like their style of editing the show with the flash logo is getting old. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 22, 2015, 10:19:48 PM
Yeah, Arrow still feels like Arrow. This last episode was the best so far this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 22, 2015, 11:51:25 PM
Yeah, I think they have a better villain this year...they are showing him actually do evil scary things, instead of just talking about him being evil, like R'az Al Ghul last season.  Basically, last season, I was like, hey why not take the position...not until the last episode did they explain Oliver would have to destroy his city.  By that time, you waited too late.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 23, 2015, 02:02:04 AM
Ras Al Ghul was really mishandled. They had the stellar episode with the snowy sword fight, then it went downhill faster than Ollie getting kicked off the top of mountain.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 23, 2015, 05:00:04 AM
I'm back to wanting to drop Gotham again and its only five episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 24, 2015, 02:23:34 AM
This last episode was the best so far this season.

The opening scene was one of the worst opening scenes I've ever had the misfortune of watching.  I can leave my brain off with the best of them, but remotely "hacking" and operating a backhoe/excavator/crane whatever that thing was had my yelling "What the hell" at the screen....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on October 25, 2015, 05:01:24 PM
Hey, it worked in T3.

Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 25, 2015, 10:52:30 PM
This last episode was the best so far this season.

The opening scene was one of the worst opening scenes I've ever had the misfortune of watching.  I can leave my brain off with the best of them, but remotely "hacking" and operating a backhoe/excavator/crane whatever that thing was had my yelling "What the hell" at the screen....

Yes, it was so insanely stupid.  I also loved how the machinery magically shifted gears...I was like seriously, who the hell wrote that? 

You could have done about 50 other different things that could have been more plausible. 
Almost worse was the shot of gunman knocking Diggle down pointing his gun at him for like 3-5 seconds and not shooting.  WHY?  Diggle was helpless and dead.  The episode seems to have been directed by a very poor director.  that shot would have worked much better just being cut a few seconds shorter. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 26, 2015, 12:27:06 PM
TMNT season 4 premiere

GLORIOUS.

Literally first two words captain's log...-- and middling season 3 is forgiven. And that new opening! And new looks! Very strong start.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 26, 2015, 07:46:59 PM
You guys see the new JOKER!?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSPBb2VXIAEXMfK.jpg)

Opinions please. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 26, 2015, 08:04:40 PM
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 26, 2015, 08:28:30 PM
This.

They are trying way way too hard to make him an edgy catwalk reject.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 26, 2015, 08:50:44 PM
TMNT season 4 premiere

GLORIOUS.

Literally first two words captain's log...-- and middling season 3 is forgiven. And that new opening! And new looks! Very strong start.

I thought that season 4 opening was too cluttered.  They just did too much.  But I love that the Fugitoid is basically The Doctor and is played by one of the best Doctors. 

I don't think season 3 is that bad.  Season 1 is still the best with season 2 just a little behind, but season 3's episodes in the Forest are some of my favorite.  I since season 4 will take a similar root.  We will have half a season in space and then get back to Earth.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on October 28, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
Right now I have been watching Heroes Reborn, Gotham Rise of the Villains, and The Walking Dead.

Heroes is at it again, stringing you along week to week when you know the pay off is not going to be worth it. I am probably done after this week because seeing Hiro come back was all I was waiting for.

Gotham is so-so, I am excited for the new season I love the first but so far its mixed feelings for me. I like how Bruce is shaping up. I also enjoy how Gordon is starting to get how Gotham works. But I am not liking the side characters, the cat, or the creep running for mayor.

The Walking Dead, if what I think happened really happened, I am DONE with that show. I took a LONG break after what happened to Lizzy and again Beth, I don't think I can handle that if it is true.

I watched half of an episode of Minority Report, yeah it needed to be cancelled at the pitch meeting long before it got to this point.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 28, 2015, 08:10:45 PM
I had a theory about Walking Dead and wonder if that came true. Will find out when we get on the season this weekend.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 28, 2015, 08:43:22 PM
Spoiler alert: It most likely did not happen but (real spoiler alert): it is going to happen soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on October 28, 2015, 08:59:25 PM
Spoiler alert: It most likely did not happen but (real spoiler alert): it is going to happen soon.


This.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 29, 2015, 01:51:31 AM
I haven't started watching TWD yet, but the curiosity of what you are talking about, might make me jump in earlier than expected.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 29, 2015, 02:01:01 AM
iZombie is the best show I am watching this year. Do yourself a favor and watch season 1 on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on October 29, 2015, 01:38:15 PM
I haven't started watching TWD yet, but the curiosity of what you are talking about, might make me jump in earlier than expected.


Do you mean at all or just this season? If you mean at all then you are way behind and missing out, but if you just mean this season, do yourself a favor and don't start it until your are ready to hate the writers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 29, 2015, 07:39:24 PM
I am really curious what the writers are doing to make people angry.  Are they killing popular characters?  Making the world inconsistent?  Writing characters inconsistent or what?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2015, 12:58:36 AM
I meant just this season, and I'm looking for a reason to drop the show and make room for something new... if they want to give me a reason.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 30, 2015, 01:12:52 AM
I didn't know The Blacklist started a month ago. I watched the first episode, it was great!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on October 30, 2015, 10:31:48 AM
I am really curious what the writers are doing to make people angry.  Are they killing popular characters?  Making the world inconsistent?  Writing characters inconsistent or what?


Honestly, ALL OF THE ABOVE.


SPOILERS *DONT KNOW HOW TO MAKE THEM HIDDEN SO DROP DOWN A WAYS*





















*************BEGIN SPOILERS*********************


They killed a main character in Season 3 or 4 by beheading, his head turned into a walker but one of the characters wields a sword and beheads walkers all day long. leaving what should be chomping threats all over the place but they ignore them as if they just die. Inconsistent and pretty glaring.


Daryle is one of the main characters, has been for the whole show, but he goes back and forth on if he is a real killer or some softy. His character doesn't make sense anymore and is no longer predictable he has turned into Bill O'Reilly almost. very sad.

The MAIN character, Rick, well he sort of resembles the man from previous seasons but has lost his mind then regained it then lost it again, its a rollercoaster ride I am losing patience with.




*****BIG SPOILER STOP READING*******

One of the most beloved characters appeared to die in a horrible fashion last week. even if it isn't true it would be a terrible ruse. First there was no escape so if that person escapes it relies on bending the rules or some really lame deus ex machina that will destroy the continuity of the show for sure. if it DID happen people are pissed because it was a bitch way to go.



*****************end spoilers*************


















The show has also gotten too heavy for many people, its lost its way and its gotten repetitive and predictable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 30, 2015, 07:10:26 PM
I scrolled over the major spoiler in your post. But I agree the show is too heavy. Last season was supposed to be a "return to awesome form" for the series and instead got bogged down by too many contrived plot points, especially for characters that didn't deserve them, and WAY too much monologuing/philosophizing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on October 31, 2015, 06:16:50 PM
I scrolled over the major spoiler in your post. But I agree the show is too heavy. Last season was supposed to be a "return to awesome form" for the series and instead got bogged down by too many contrived plot points, especially for characters that didn't deserve them, and WAY too much monologuing/philosophizing.


Then don't start this season, they are doing time jumps and parallel storytelling. They got one of the guys from Lost writing the show now, so expect it to suck from here on out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 01, 2015, 01:01:20 AM
It's on the back burner for now. The only reason we would watch soon is because we fear getting spoilers for the deaths. Still, it is the best zombie survival show around and we are invested in the main characters. We'll continue on at some point.


In the mean time, we finished Gotham S1 together. I started it over with my wife since she became interested. I enjoyed it much more the second time and enjoyed the conclusion. Stoked for S2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 01, 2015, 02:36:18 AM
Supergirl

Just watched the first episode and I am pretty impressed. It handled Superman pretty well by shoving him into the background quickly so SG can do her thing. Thankfully the trailers lied pretty hard and it didn't end up as some half baked shallow chick flick. It's something anyone can enjoy. **** the technobabble though. It has quickly established a good set of supporting characters and an amusingly large number of people know who she is.

Will continue watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 01, 2015, 03:04:48 PM
Supergirl

It has quickly established a good set of supporting characters and an amusingly large number of people know who she is.


I agree with this.  It was refreshing to see she was open with this revelation right at the beginning.  None of the usual "I can't tell you for your own safety, I'm trying to protect you internal battle" cliche nonsense that typically plagues these shows.  At least not yet. 

I also loved the music.  It's head and shoulders above Arrow and Flash and so on and so forth.  At least to me.

Though the "Kryptonese" line was groan inducing....


Blacklist has also been top shelf stuff this season.  It's nice seeing (blonde *drool*) Liz actually in a position of uncertainty and vulnerability relying on Red for guidance and protection.  Megan does it well.  Red also playing a much bigger role this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 02, 2015, 09:35:25 AM
another miss for TWD. Just a useless filler flashback episode to tell backstory on a character that didn't need any backstory. Intentionally drawing out the results of last weeks did they or didn't they.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 02, 2015, 05:57:35 PM
I felt that was a good episode, just maybe badly placed. He was really abnormal for someone in TWD universe. I was interested in how he came to be. He is the opposite of Carol who is a pragmatist contrasting Morgan's idealism. They are both right at the same time even in the face of conflicting goals. Unfortunately Morgan has cornered himself with a moral conundrum that he has no way of solving that will measure up to his ideals. This is actually more interesting than whether Glenn (Not happening) dies or not.

Though the "Kryptonese" line was groan inducing....
This had me going Holy **** what were you guys thinking?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 02, 2015, 06:27:27 PM
I felt that was a good episode, just maybe badly placed. He was really abnormal for someone in TWD universe. I was interested in how he came to be. He is the opposite of Carol who is a pragmatist contrasting Morgan's idealism. They are both right at the same time even in the face of conflicting goals. Unfortunately Morgan has cornered himself with a moral conundrum that he has no way of solving that will measure up to his ideals. This is actually more interesting than whether Glenn (Not happening) dies or not.

Though the "Kryptonese" line was groan inducing....
This had me going Holy **** what were you guys thinking?

But did we really need to have an hour and a half devoted to why this one character won't kill humans in a world where the dead don't stay dead? There are plenty of people in the town that don't kill humans to side with him why devote, not just an entire episode, but a special extra long episode to telling a story that didn't need to be told. It was piss poor pacing and a cheap trick to ensure ratings don't fall off until next week.

If they were going to do an extra long episode this week they could have done half of it flashback and the other half catching up on the people in town, but no they chose to go the dirty route.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on November 02, 2015, 06:50:07 PM
Been watching falling skies lately (GETTING OF THE TOPIC OF twd) pretty good getting season 4 for Christmas so I'm waiting for it till then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 02, 2015, 07:02:27 PM
The other people who don't kill humans aren't doing it out of an ideal. They are paralysed by the choice, therefore they aren't making a choice, nor do these people have the ability or will to enforce their choice. Morgan's idealism is his keystone, without it he would be dead or still clearing. It's not that the dead won't stay dead, it's about a world where you kill or be killed and there is value from choosing another way. Rick holds hints of this idealism, but he has yet to be rewarded for it as every time he has chosen not to kill has ended badly for him.

Each choice has a price and if I was a betting man, Morgan is going to have to kill.

Wait Falling Skies is still a thing? I gave up on that after the first episode. It lost me somewhere between the bad SFX and the nondescript peoples.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 02, 2015, 10:05:40 PM
This season of The Walking Dead is awesome, period. Last night's episode was great - but it was out of place. It should have happened before the previous week's episode. I would say it should have happened last season, but then the ending would have been out of place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 03, 2015, 04:30:46 PM
Supergirl.

I really enjoyed that second episode.

A really like where this show is going. I am oh so happy that actually acknowledged that fact that they need her to be prepared and know how to actually fight without relying on her powers. This has been my biggest beef since pretty much forever with OP superheros like Superman. Same with the Flash. He has no idea how to fight. And it shows. Just relies on his speed. Hopefully she takes it seriously and actually learns how to fight.

The scene with kid Kara and mum was pretty ordinary. Felt and sounded like they were reading off the script directly for the first time as they filmed it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 03, 2015, 05:44:09 PM
Supergirl.

I really enjoyed that second episode.

A really like where this show is going. I am oh so happy that actually acknowledged that fact that they need her to be prepared and know how to actually fight without relying on her powers. This has been my biggest beef since pretty much forever with OP superheros like Superman. Same with the Flash. He has no idea how to fight. And it shows. Just relies on his speed. Hopefully she takes it seriously and actually learns how to fight.

The scene with kid Kara and mum was pretty ordinary. Felt and sounded like they were reading off the script directly for the first time as they filmed it.

I agree with you about the Flash...however, his inexperience does get him in trouble.  Butwhen you consider the storyarc ofthe first season you understand why his team didn't teach him to fight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2015, 10:58:10 PM
The ending to last weeks The Flash was a true W.T.F. moment. King SHARK!?

But this weeks The Flash was fucking hilarious.
"Our Wells was eeeevil, but you're just a DICK!!!! LOL

there were at least like 3-4 moments that had me waking up the neighbors with laughter, like Wells being a dick, Cisco spittin "game" and commentary moments.
and that chick Barry is now dating, I forget her name right now is so hawt. hotter than Iris or Panabaker if you ask me, and that is a damn compliment regardless of how you look at it.


Agent of SHIELD had a few good moments too. Between Hunter being an impulsively violent ass, to the opening misdirect that led right back to what some of us had originally thought to begin with. Just need to figure out the motivations now.


Gotham has been oh-so entertaining. I don't get how any comic show fan can not enjoy this show.
The show may not be winning any awards (outside of that portrayal of The Joker), but the entertainment value here is high. just embrace it for what it is and enjoy every second of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on November 05, 2015, 01:25:34 AM
That was a great episode of the Flash. His name is now Crisco.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 05, 2015, 03:06:42 PM
there were at least like 3-4 moments that had me waking up the neighbors with laughter, like Wells being a dick, Cisco spittin "game" and commentary moments.
and that chick Barry is now dating, I forget her name right now is so hawt. hotter than Iris or Panabaker if you ask me, and that is a damn compliment regardless of how you look at it.

Yeah that episode was pretty damn great.  Patty is amazing.  She works very well with Barry.  That date was hilarious, and Barry's recovery when talking about the colour of her dress.....smooooooooooth.  But I think the best bit was Cicso's commentary.

Though as usual they completely mess up the fight.  Again.  How was creating all those "speed mirages' more effective that running up and knocking her straight out?  Why didn't she AoE the second time?   Was it on cooldown or was she out or mana or something? 

So happy Harry is back.  Essentially a completely different character this time though but that's ok.  Still adding nicely to the team. 

Arrow.

I've never watched Constantine, but his character seemed pretty cool.  One of the better episodes this season. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 05, 2015, 10:05:15 PM
Harry coming back and calling Cisco "Crisco" was just the beginning of something great. He elevated the entire episode.

I have yet to watch Arrow, but I'm going to go ahead and assume The Flash won this week by a hefty margin.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 05, 2015, 10:31:13 PM
I started iZombie on my own. I'm really digging it. It is filling the detective/crime itch for me and I find it much more interesting than Psych.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2015, 11:55:18 PM
Can't stop The Flash this week

(http://i.imgur.com/yE22ifd.png)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on November 07, 2015, 12:04:30 AM
I started iZombie on my own. I'm really digging it. It is filling the detective/crime itch for me and I find it much more interesting than Psych.

Yeah! the mysteries are not bad. The Characters are all consistently compelling too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 08, 2015, 05:35:05 PM
I think I am done with Heroes reborn, all things aside that was completely uncharacteristic of Matt there is no way he would have done what he claimed to have done not the Matt who let his marriage fall apart so he could save the world, there is no way he would join the bad guys because they paid him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: shingi_70 on November 08, 2015, 07:50:32 PM
Didn't he let his marriage fall apart due to his Wife cheating and the baby might not be his, as well as his own self doubts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 08, 2015, 09:27:59 PM
It's funny. Heroes Reborn has become my favorite show of the week. It's the one I'm most looking forward to. I don't know why this show works for me but it does and always has. I'm not oblivious to the complaints about it and there's definitely things about it I recognize as silly, inconsistent or a gap in logic by a character but it's always had this great forward momentum that I just enjoy the ride along with certain cool and fun moments it can throw in as well. But then, I'm a guy that also enjoyed most of the show and thought its 4th season was second only to the 1st season representing an uptick in quality and a sign that it was improving before it was cancelled. I'm really glad its back and it is putting on a season that I think is equivalent to its 1st season. Were it not for a few details that could be done better, I'd be tempted to say it even surpasses that.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 09, 2015, 10:16:20 AM
I think that the Writers Strike ruined Heroes.  I know the show runners said they made mistakes in season 2...but actually, I really liked the slow burn story arc and the direction season 2 was going.  Season 3 was awful...it was like the didn't explain any of their twists and turns and didn't let the characters grow into any changes that happened to them.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 09, 2015, 11:38:55 AM
Didn't he let his marriage fall apart due to his Wife cheating and the baby might not be his, as well as his own self doubts.


But he never became one of the bad guys. This new version was just a new character with the same name and same power but totally different guy. I agree with most of what anime dude said, the show is working story wise but these inconsistencies of the characters is distracting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2015, 01:03:00 PM
I think that the Writers Strike ruined Heroes.  I know the show runners said they made mistakes in season 2...but actually, I really liked the slow burn story arc and the direction season 2 was going.  Season 3 was awful...it was like the didn't explain any of their twists and turns and didn't let the characters grow into any changes that happened to them.


Definitely. I got into Heroes around the time just before Season 3 began and watched the first two seasons. There was a lot of good stuff going on but then it just suddenly rushed to an ending and finished very abruptly as well. That rushed rough ending really just ruined the season. But the writers strike created a lot of "what-might-have-been" scenarios with different shows so its not like Heroes was the only one affected but it has seemed to be the one that suffered the most compared to other shows.

Suffers from a lack of real purpose. At least with the other seasons, you have a main purpose. Season 1 - stop the New York nuclear explosion. Season 2 - stop the deadly virus release. Season 4 - Stop the earthquake carney man. Reborn - stop the end of the world. But with 3, I can not recall what the main threat was. They introduced different powered villains and I think they were plotting together or working on something. And then they introduced the secret government task force hunting the heroes so it was about hiding, surviving and trying to stop the task force along with a subplot of preventing Sylar from killing/becoming the president. The fact that the season considered its worst is the one that seems to be lacking in a purpose shouldn't be a surprise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 09, 2015, 07:00:20 PM
I think the biggest mistake Heroes made was keeping Sylar after season 1.  You kinda need to move on to other villains.

By the way season 3 was broken into 2 mini seasons.  The second half was stronger than the first and was about villains...however it still was lame. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 09, 2015, 08:33:43 PM
The problem is Sylar remained one of the more interesting of all the characters for awhile. There was still more that could have been done with him but they went down some weird directions with him which resulted in the audience growing weary of the character. He'd have been a great threat to bring out again once in awhile instead of just seeking more power or redemption.

 I do know that Season 3 was split in to two arcs but that was sort of my point about it. Neither of those arcs had a major threat to avert or clear through line as to what the goal was for each one. The second half does a bit more than the first which is partly why its stronger but in the end, how do you sum up the season? What was the main conflict? It's lacking and the season reflects that by going all over the place with characters and ideas but not having a very clear direction.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 10, 2015, 02:29:26 AM
The only thing they could have or should have done with him...is going the direction season 2 did.  Showing that he was dangerous and evil without his powers...just as much with the powers.  But I would have never given him his powers back.  There is some dark and evil in man when they are willing to do anything to get there power back, and seeing him willing to manipulate a girl with a dangerous power just to watch the world burn because he lost his powers was interesting. 

But they relied too much on Sylar and that meant that they never developed another cool villain, until it was too late.

They made Peter too powerful, but they could have easily dialed him down, by him forgetting how to use powers he obtained over time.  They explained his powers were gained by recreating the emotions of the original users, well...if he lost his connection to the originals he could lose his powers.

Also, I was OK with Peter being alive still, but they should have left his brother dead so he could have a heroic end.  This is the problem, they had a huge ensemble cast but they didn't let their stories end.  Season 2 could have been carried with 2-3 remaining cast members from season 1 and new characters and stories. 

Hiro, Peter, the Cheerleader and her father was all that was truly needed for season 2...then give us new characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 10, 2015, 09:36:50 AM
The Walking Dead, another filler episode, it had a couple of moments but I am losing patience with this show. No I don't care if someone is dead or not anymore I lost interest in that last week, I just want to see something happen not so damn much talking, repeating the same exact conversations every damn episode.


Gotham is still kicking ass. I was a little down on the episode a couple back but this one was amazing, keep it up can't wait till next week. I am curious how Gordon redeems Barbara though. I am hoping the doctor dies soon I can't stand her.

My brother-in-law and I had a conversation last night about Star Wars, with the empire over taking the Republic how all those "good guy" (stormtroopers) wouldn't just suddenly fight for the bad guys, as in good guys don't go bad over night. Then I mentioned Matt from Heroes and he agreed with me, that guy was one of the good guys, there is no way he would have sold his soul for money because he sacrificed his family to save the world. No way he turned rogue, not *before* the explosion anyways, maybe in the aftermath that following year but even then I am not sure.

I disagree with him on Star Wars though, he just hates the prequels anyways because he is old and hates change.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2015, 06:57:56 PM
The Walking Dead was great - 8.5/10, you're dumb. Filler on The Walking Dead is better than most episodes of most other shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on November 10, 2015, 07:00:37 PM
Just finished Black Lagoon, well that was Fuckin Amazing. Time to find the second one and Roberta's blood trail...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 10, 2015, 07:00:43 PM
And the Storm Troopers were genetically modified clones that were "programmed" to turn on the Jedi. Order 66, bruh. They didn't turn overnight, they turned instantly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 11, 2015, 03:05:05 AM
I'm still having a lot of issue with how unsettled Gotham as a whole is. When it doubles down into the weird and wacky and strange (with Jerome this season) it's good. When it doubles down into the gritty it's good (like the scene with Galavant and Bruce) but when it tries to jump back and forth it's pretty jarring.

It needs to pick a tone and stay there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on November 11, 2015, 04:19:18 AM
That was a pretty good episode of the Flash. Barry got WRECKED, like spine is broken, I can't feel my legs wrecked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 11, 2015, 01:53:54 PM
My wife and I started Flash and are enjoying it. It makes me want to restart Arrow as we just finished the first crossover episode, but I know Arrow was lagging in S3 where we stopped watching. We may try to watch them in tandem so that we can appreciate the shared plot points better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 11, 2015, 05:35:36 PM
There is almost no shared plot points in those cross overepisodes thatneed you to watch the Arrow season...they are there, but not important.  Now, this season, I heard is different, theshared plot points will be bigger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 12, 2015, 09:39:28 AM
The shared plot points from this season should lead into a joint spin-off show.

Arrow is much improved this season over last, but S3's stink still lingers in the background.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 12, 2015, 11:24:15 AM
And the Storm Troopers were genetically modified clones that were "programmed" to turn on the Jedi. Order 66, bruh. They didn't turn overnight, they turned instantly.



I told him that, he just isn't at all into the prequels.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 13, 2015, 03:54:27 PM
My only concern is the producers are now involved in five shows at once (Arrow, Flash, Legends, Supergirl and Blindspot)... a bit much maybe?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 13, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
They are on Blindspot too!?

I've been meaning to watch that show, but I haven't made it last the nude scene in the beginning in the 4 times I've tried watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 15, 2015, 09:40:34 AM
It's not all of the producers on Blindspot, but i have seen several including the exec producer and the music composer (which confuses me as the Blindspot theme is TERRIBLE! despite Flash's being so good) over on Blindspot.

There is no nudity. Absolutely none. Plenty of "she would be nude but you don't see because this object is in the way" early on though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 15, 2015, 11:50:36 AM
it was the part where she comes out the bag and just sits there naked. I keep turning it on late at night, and I never remember anything past that point.

But I'm sure one day I'll have time to watch it earlier in the day, and make it past the 3 minute mark in the show. LOL.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 15, 2015, 11:52:51 PM
Star Trek: Enterprise

Finally got around to watching it after abandoning it years ago. The first 2 seasons were generally pretty dire with some good episodes like Carbon Creek. The moral conundrums were far too easily solved. If the show was released today it wouldn't have made it to the end of season 1.

It almost becomes a completely new show when season 3 comes round, finally becoming good. It gets morally ambiguous, with a constant tone of desperation coming from the crew as they fight the season long threat. Captain Archer starts having to bend and break his morals in order to complete his mission.

Season 4 abruptly finishes up the Temporal Cold War and starts to force Archer into every important event in history. It is generally ok but misses the mark with the Vulcan arc. The mirror universe episode is fantastic and the last episode was a great send off.

It is a shame it took 2 seasons before they got good, effectively putting Star Trek in a coma for 10 years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on November 16, 2015, 09:36:18 AM
Walking Dead was pretty good last night, still had too many conversations that have already been repeated to death but nice to see someone still has a working dick on this show other than poor old Glen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 18, 2015, 08:32:56 PM
I am really liking season 2 of The Flash.  They really do have a good writing team and they are keeping the feel of season 1.  Keeping it light and having fun drama instead of brooding drama like The Arrow.  It is nice that they have separated the feel of both shows.  The last 2 episodes have been great.  I love how they are playing Earth 2 Wells as a jerk but a good guy...instead of a really nice guy that is evil. 

I hope they don't make him have a dark secret that makes him evil...I feel IF they do that it is too predictable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 18, 2015, 09:18:08 PM
I'm two episodes (out of five) into With Bob And David, and it's pretty much exactly what I hoped it would be. Mr. Show is probably my favorite sketch show ever, and 17 years later they've still got it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2015, 01:09:21 AM
Agents of SHIELD was good last night.

Ward and the true History of HYDRA was a nice twist on things.
things should be very interesting leading up to the winter break.

now i need to go finish The Flash, as I fell asleep on it last night (been working 10-12+ hour shifts for most of the last month)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on November 19, 2015, 01:01:08 PM
Last two episodes of Arrow despite being usual drama tripe it always was feature one of the best digital camera work i've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 20, 2015, 03:44:11 PM

now i need to go finish The Flash

I still think the date with Barry and Patty is the best moment from this season thus far.  Those two are such a great couple.  Whoever decided to bring Patty into the show, and selected the casting needs a big pay rise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on November 20, 2015, 06:14:45 PM

now i need to go finish The Flash

I still think the date with Barry and Patty is the best moment from this season thus far.  Those two are such a great couple.  Whoever decided to bring Patty into the show, and selected the casting needs a big pay rise.

Seriously...Patty first showed up as a very annoying character, but that date made her less annoying, and anything that can make the Iris and Barry relationship normal is a good thing.  I am sorry, but Barry being in love with basically his sister is weird, and not normal. 

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 22, 2015, 11:34:59 PM
The Walking Dead - 8.5/10

Considering we all knew what was going to happen with Glenn, I think they executed it pretty well, how killing the first couple of walkers made a barrier so no others knew he was there, and the almost happy turned into holy fucking **** ending.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 30, 2015, 09:23:25 PM
Alright. Let's start talking some TV. I've been meaning to do this for awhile but kept putting it off. There are some things I just want to touch on and others I want to get in depth about shows that I'm watching.

First off, Heroes. I have talked about this one already. I still like the show. Even when it gets things all screwed up, I'm still compelled to keep watching to see what happens next. I actually thought the show was doing really well up to the point of June 13 Part 1. It seemed to keep the time travelling free from paradoxes, it wasn't afraid to off characters, it seemed to be plotted pretty well and leading in a good direction while slowly answering the mysteries it created in a pretty satisfactory manner. But then June 13 Part 2 happened and began to undo a lot of that which is a shame because it didn't have to and was close to not doing that but I guess Heroes is gonna be Heroes. I don't expect the ending to be any great resolution to the series as a whole or if it will even be that great as it could have been for just this season but I'm still along for the ride wherever it may lead.

The Last Man on Earth - Shortly after Parks and Recreation ended, Last Man premiered and to my amazement, I'd finally found another comedy that I liked a lot and seemed could be comparable to the highs of The Office and Parks and Recreation. I thought that first Season was great and have recommended it to a lot of people. I admit, I am a big Will Forte fan as well. The concept is so different from most other shows that it helps add to the appeal as well. However, Season 2 has been so-so for me so far. It has its moments and there have been great bits of comedy here and there but the tone of the show has changed a bit since Season 1. S1 was a lot of Forte's character reacting (poorly) to the ever-changing circumstances of life in Tuscan. S2 has been more of Forte's character trying to make amends and be a better person but it hasn't helped keep things at the hilarity that S1 had. It's a hard show to describe sometimes because it has been able to keep changing things up so much and yet in some ways, there is almost a bit of staleness to it as well. It's odd. I still like but I'm just not sure where its going now and if it is ever going to hit the highs of Season 1.

Brooklyn Nine Nine - I feel this is a weaker show than Last Man yet I've still kept watching. I do really laugh aloud much from it but it is pleasant enough. At this point, it seems to have settled into what it will always be and its obviously not going to join the ranks of Parks and Recreation or The Office First 5 seasons in comedy which is too bad as I remember Season 1 seeming to have this potential and it got talked about a lot more back then. Now, no one hardly mentions it. I do find it interesting how they've been able to get so much mileage from Captain Holt's deadpan expressions. You'd think that would have run its course but it still sort of carries this show and keeps me watching because of it. I do find some of the funniest bits to come from when Holt joins in with a Jake Peralta scenario and how Samburg always reacts like his mind is getting blown from Holt participating with him in it. The other great pairing I like is when Holt and Rosa get together as Rosa also keeps her feelings buttoned down. There was a great bit with them this year as Holt helped mentor her in breaking up with his nephew and how to express empathy. So, because of moments like that, I'm still sticking with B99 but if it were to suddenly go off the air, I wouldn't really feel like I was missing anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 30, 2015, 09:50:21 PM
Elementary - On the subject of why I am still watching this show, Exhibit A, Elementary. Elementary is a show that I find wildly swings around in enjoyment levels with the greater portion of it being sort of dull. Part of this comes about from the case of the week episodes which can vary wildly in interest, credibility and convolutedness. Its a show that seems to succeed more on the brief quieter moments in episodes when characters talk to each other about things that don't have anything to do with the case of the week. The growth of the Holmes and Watson relationship and how it has changed them both. The other thing about this show is that once in awhile, it will pull out or incorporate a great idea for the Sherlock lore and mythos/character. I do love how it handled its Moriarty in Season 1. I do like how it was able to show the gradual Holmes and Watson partnership come together in Season 1 and treat Watson as a capable partner and detective which lends it more credibility almost. Not that it seems to be lacking much in the BBC's Sherlock but with the way Elementary has handled it, it's made it seem more natural and real that Watson would begin to learn the detective trade. In some ways, Season 1 is the problem. You could begin to tell it was getting better and better and it seemed to have better cases and a strong ending. Season 2's overall arc was a bit of a dud in the end to me and by the midpoint, the cases started going off into some more ludicrous type grounds. Likewise, Season 3 had a really interesting first half and start with the introduction and character of Kitty but then it resolved that halfway in and then just drifted for the rest of the season. Now with Season 4, we're introduced to something new, Sherlock's dad. And while he is a compelling figure, he's about the only thing I find of any major interest. Since about the midpoint of Season 2, I've been debating about whether to keep watching this show and yet somehow I do. I can only think its because of how when it tries to be, it can make for an interesting Holmes adaptation and it is compelling when it reaches its highs. It's a just the matter of waiting around until it hits them. In the end, I'll stick take BBC's Sherlock over it anytime. Bring on the Sherlock Christmas Special.


Survivor - Survivor seasons vary due to the different contestants that are cast and how the game is played. However, this current season has been a blast to watch so far and has made Survivor one of the top three shows I can't wait to see each week. If you're still a Survivor fan like me, I've got to think you're enjoying it too and wishing more players would play to this potential.


The Amazing Race - Like Survivor, TAR varies Season by Season. I find one of the bigger issues with TAR though can be the challenges they put forth to the contestants. Sometimes, they've just got the players doing pretty boring things that just make any excitement drain out of the show no matter how you may be rooting for the players. This current season started out pretty strong with a pretty big rivalry that was pretty entertaining especially with how much of it has played out so I'm grateful the casting was a bit better this go around and it has made me realize that some of the best seasons I liked were of ones with a couple teams that were just trying to outdo each other so finding a good rivalry like that should be more of a focus for the show. But it is now seeming to get back to boring levels as the rivalry is pretty much over and there's just a lot of sameness with racers placing in the same spots over and over. Shame as I had actually gotten more excited for TAR at the beginning of this season than I had been in quite awhile.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 30, 2015, 11:18:48 PM
The Flash - Right now, I'd say the Flash is the best of all the DC shows I watch. I guess it shouldn't be a huge surprise since Arrow also went into a strong season 2. It's taken a bit of time to align itself to the new status quo for this season. I must admit, I do sort of miss Eddie even though he really didn't do or accomplish all that much in the first season. Sort of like the Tommy of Arrow. I do find the way they've incorporated and kept Wells around to be a welcome idea. Too often, you either lose that character or villain for the rest of the show (i.e. Eddie) after their big arc is done or else the writers just don't seem to know how to use that character anymore or get anymore growth out of them (i.e. Malcolm Merlyn who has never been handled as well as he was in Season 1). Fortunately, The Flash has been able to successfully work around that by giving us a different Wells who is just as entertaining.

It's additions so far to the cast seem to be working out pretty good as well. Patty Spivot comes off as a much better love interest for Barry than Iris ever did. Sort of like how Felicity and Barry seemed to be better matched. It's kind of frustrating in some ways with how much Season 1 spent of Barry pining for Iris that we see a much better relationship immediately and that Barry and Iris still don't seem to have any great connection with each other. I get that losing Eddie would probably keep Iris from starting any relationship soon but at the same time, the fact that neither of them seem to care about the other romantically is a bit odd considering how much the show would focus on that in Season 1. The way the show wrapped up its cliffhanger from Season 1 was a bit of a disappointment but its momentum to just move forward has helped to dismiss most of the hiccups from that begin aside from the handling of Barry's dad.

I'm quite impressed with how much the show has been handling its effects. King Shark, while brief, was awesome. The confrontation of Zoom also helped make him a more interesting villain for the season. There are still some things that niggle at me about the show. Like, if they got the Reverse Flash costume from the Gideon room, why not check in with Gideon about Zoom or ask it other questions? You've got an advanced A.I. from the future. Why not use it? There are 52 rifts. Why are they not checking them all out or setting up some kind of surveillance on them? Let's only use them when they are needed for a plot device. In the end, the show is just there to have fun and entertain. It's not trying to be Mad Men. So, it is still succeeding on this fact in that it does give me a bit of fun every week that it is on.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 30, 2015, 11:19:09 PM
Arrow - So far, so good. Arrow seems to have taken a lot of the criticisms it got from Season 3 and set about to make a better show from it. It's got purpose and focus and its been making the right choices with most of the cast as well. When it comes TV reviews, these days, my main source is The AV Club. I find their reviews to often match my takes on shows and they can often provide some interesting points that I may not notice or think about. On that note, I thought their review of episode 1 for this season was pretty spot on when they took a moment to sort of think about the show as a whole and what has led to this point. Rather than sum it up, I would suggest just taking a quick read on it. Here's a link for you to do just that. (http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/arrow-finally-put-green-green-arrow-226483) The key point from that review may be "the narrative formula that had guided the show for much of its first three seasons had probably taken the show as far as it could go."

And I think that's true. The show that Arrow was when it began is pretty much dead. Through cast subtractions and changes of the characters, it has become something else much like Oliver declares himself to be at the start of each episode. This season seems to represent both a new show and a holding over of some past elements. As much as the show kept Oliver grim, he could make a joke and smile every once in a blue moon. Now the show seems finally ready to let that Oliver shine through and show us more of that side while not necessarily losing all the past history and baggage he came with. In some ways, this could make for an interesting contrast where you have a lighter present day Oliver while still keeping a darker, dourer Oliver in the past as that narrative would be leading him in that direction.

The show also seems to be working hard to correct some of the other choices it's made. It introduced the Lazarus Pit last season which led people to wonder why not resurrect Sara? The show finally addressed this and then also promptly shut the door on the whole resurrection thing with Nyssa destroying the pit. (Or at least the only one discovered so far until the writers decide they need a new one. Ha ha ha.) After struggling with keeping the Malcolm character relevant or even workable within the world of Arrow, they may have finally found a way to get some better use out of him by making him the new Ra's Al Ghul. While there are still things about the way that his arc and motivations have been handled, it does seem like the best fit for the character so far since anything they've done with him in Season 1 but he still feels like a character that is a little broken with how he works in the Arrowverse and that may be a problem that can never be solved. Oliver losing his company in Season 2 was an interesting part of the plot in Deathstroke's plan but I'm not sure having Ray buy it and turn it into Palmer Technology was the smart thing to do. In the end, we never saw Oliver suffer much from lack of money amazingly enough but it took something away from the character leaving him the lesser for it. Now, it has been convolutedly given to Felicity yet it kind of works. It gives Felicity something else to do besides hacking for Team Arrow and pining for Oliver. It enriches her character while still giving Oliver a tie to the company again or at least access to funds. Again, a pretty good course correction from part of the Season 3 series of missteps.

Back in Season 2, when Moira Queen was killed leaving Blood to be the only one standing to run for mayor, I thought it might lead to Oliver Queen running in his mother's place as there was a comic storyline of Oliver running for mayor. Having that never happened. Until now. While it seems a bit rough for him to be doing it now, (and I like how its been acknowledged that his past actions like losing his own company would make him a hard sell) it also kind of works with the way the show has handled its politicians and no one really wanting the job. Plus, it again allows Oliver to do something and be something more than just the Arrow and fretting about his vigilante problems and world. It broadens the character.

For the most part, Diggle has been one of the few characters to be handled consistently well. While I found it funny that even his wife who had been kidnapped by Oliver had pretty much let that whole incident go and moved on, he was the only one who wouldn't let it go. The problem with that whole feud is that while I get that it was a personal blow and a boundary crossed by Oliver, at the same time, it never felt like Diggle's family was in any danger or that Oliver would actually carry through on harming them. It always felt like a bluff which is why it was kind of tiring that Diggle couldn't see that or let if go. Fortunately, the show has sort of worked that out and found a new direction for Diggle to take his indignation out on. His brother. Ha ha ha. While the mask did seem stupid in the first episode, I've gotten accustomed to Black Magneto that it doesn't even bother me anymore.

Another common complaint about Season 3 was the lackluster action and it seems again like this season is working to course correct that as well. Last episode had a really interesting couple takes of fight scenes through a handheld camera that you couldn't help but notice with how they stood out from being so different from the rest of the show visually and which helped inject some enthusiasm into the action as well. There are times when I watch this show and roll my eyes at how these characters should all be dead by now. Heck, that rogue policewoman had absolutely no reason to let Oliver live a few episodes again. But episode 1 of season 4 starts out with Laurel and Thea on a motorcycle being shot at with no real protection around them. From the distance they are at with the villain shooting at them, there's no way they should still be alive. Dumb action like that just diminishes the show to me but hopefully this current course correction continues and they focus more on just having a couple good action scenes and less of having plenty of lame and "should be dead" action scenes.

There's more I'd like to get into about Arrow now that I've begun talking about it but I'm going to leave it at that and just plug The AV Club once more by saying that I've really been enjoying their reviews of Arrow so far this year and highly recommend them after watching an episode.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 01, 2015, 12:21:59 AM
Supergirl - This one is the roughest of the DC shows I watch but then Arrow and The Flash took a bit of time in their first seasons to start gelling. We'll see how things are when we hit the middle of the season as that is when those shows began to find their footing.

While I'm still not sure about the inclusion of Jimmy Olsen, who's name pretty much invokes thoughts of Superman which seems detrimental to a show trying to demonstrate how its hero is different from Superman and their own person, I find the rest of the cast to also give me conflicting opinions. Cat Grant is like a weird hybrid of Perry White and Lois Lane and, despite some recent fleshing out, she just doesn't come across as that believable or likeable or interesting. I just have a hard time buying Kara wanting to stick around in her job with Cat or actually believing it worth her time with all the powers she has in life. From her job performance reviews that we get from Cat, I'm not sure why Cat keeps her around either. I get Superman would sometimes pretend bumble things as Clark to keep people from getting suspicious about him but at the end of the day, he was still doing solid work as a reporter and making a difference that way and getting respected for it. Maybe Lois was the better reporter but its not like he was just sticking around the Daily Planet to get lunch orders. He isn't afraid to use his powers to help him out with his work either. Compare the Clark Kent of the Animated Series or even Lois and Clark with the Kara of this show and it just makes Kara seem kind of sad.

Then there's Kara's IT guy friend who's so memorable that I can not think of his name after watching him in 5 episodes so far. His unrequited love for Kara is already making him stale and he just feels like a poor man's Cisco. He also needs some work but at the same time he feels like a tragic character in the making. I could totally see him becoming a villain from the rejection he gets from Kara. He still comes off as the weirdest choice as being the first person to reveal your super self to and, despite him somehow helping out by creating a super IT room in the building and designing Kara's suit, it just makes Kara's judgement on things questionable. Maybe that's the point, though, as she is struggling to start defining herself and how to handle herself.

As for Kara's sister, who's name I also can't recall, she seems to be the strongest part of the cast taking on the sort of Joe West / Diggle role. However, she hasn't seemed to get the best light so far with being so upset with Kara in the pilot and then feuding away with her mother on Thanksgiving or coming down hard in Kara and her lack of training in episode 2. Although there have been a few moments of her sticking up for Kara or working to help her despite Henshaw's objections, she sort of leaves a sour note when I think of her. She could use some levity or some lighter fare to cover.

As for Henshaw, I recognize the actor from Homeland where he was a dick to the main character so seeing him here gave me a bit of dislike to him also as he plays the some sort of character of a no-nonsense director of an agency of spies. Makes it easier to accept as a villain. In the comics, Henshaw would become the Cyborg Superman. While that might still happen, part of me wonders if there might be some misdirection with his character. The red eyes actually makes me think of Smallville and the Martian Manhunter, John Jones. It would make for the nice comic irony of an alien running the organization that hunts aliens. However, I think if it was supposed to be MM, he'd be going by John Jones. Henshaw seems to already be cybernetic or he could be an alien escapee posing as Henshaw allowing the show to pull a Flash and introduce another Henshaw next season! At least he makes for one of the interesting slow building mysteries for the season.

And I must give the show credit in regards to the villains. While the supporting hero cast may not be as engaging as that of Arrow or The Flash, the villains are starting off quite strong. We've got the is he/isn't he of Henshaw, the simple but effective arc of Fort Roz alien prisoner escapees to deal with led by Kara's Aunt and the poor man's Lex Luthor, Maxwell Lord. I'd say at this point with how he's been set-up and handled as a billionaire tech genius that Maxwell Lord will resemble Luthor more than his comic book self who was the leader of a covert group of spies and the Justice League International before becoming a villain with mind control powers. That's not necessarily a bad thing as the Luther/Superman rivalry has made for plenty of great stories through the years. But I do hope the mind control thing does come into play at some point.

As for Kara's aunt being the villain in charge of the prison, I do like it. It's shades of Zod like so much of the show seems to be making things Superman but different. However, I like that they revealed her so soon to Kara instead of stretching things out ala Dr. Wells / Reverse Flash. I like that connection that when she looks at her, Kara sees her mother and that there is this personal family villain and yet this slight possibility that maybe she can talk Kara to seeing her side of things or joining her like Darth Vader with Luke Skywalker. However, with only one appearance so far, its hard to say ultimately how well of a villain she'll turn out to be or if she even is the main villain. Like Season 2 of Arrow with it's multitude of villains, I'm glad Supergirl is starting out with a smattering of different foes to keep things interesting and it was part of why I thought Arrow Season 2 was so successful.

Last thoughts, one thing I am disappointed about is the handling of Kara's powers. Like Superman is often portrayed, there is no sense of what her limits actually are. She's as strong or as weak as the writers make her at that particular point. As well, the X-Ray vision seems to be handled the same as the Lois and Clark Superman X-Ray vision which is to say, the crazy and impossible kind beyond her just being an alien. Once again, Smallville gets some more respect as a Superman adaption with its depiction of x-ray vision. It's an X-ray not a telescope that you can zoom your focus in and out of all manner of distance. I do like how the show has addressed Superman and his existence even though it wants to distance itself a bit from him. It really can't unless Superman never existed in this world. That said, the balance has worked for me. Finally, of all the depictions I've seen of Supergirl through comics or other media, this show is so far the best at making her a distinct character with her own world, cast and motivations despite the constant similarities to Superman's cast and world. Not sure if that is a good or sad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 01, 2015, 01:26:23 AM
Why is no one else talking TV?

Jeopardy - Let's throw this into the mix as well. So, recently, Jeopardy had its Tournament of Champions and it was awesome. The final 3 ended up being the final 3 I had guessed were the strongest possibilities provided they didn't play one or the other in a semi-final elimination game. As it was, they were all spaced out to never face one another until the finals. As it was, the Finals wasn't really that competitive but it was still an awesome match to behold with one player dominating through his run the tournament. Returning to regular Jeopardy has been rather painful the past week and compared to what was showing during the tournament, the contestants have just seemed brainless with all sorts of clues being left on the board at the end of a round and unrevealed. I hate that! That tournament has spoiled my regular Jeopardy viewings right now.


But finally, we come to the show I most want to talk about. My number one and favorite show of the week has become Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and I was definitely not expecting that and I bet many users here wouldn't be thinking that it would be getting my highest recommendation for viewing but I find it bloody brilliant.

When I first heard the name of the show in the fall-time, I thought it was weird idea for a comedy. Then finding out it was a musical comedy seemed even crazier. But crazy is the name of the game with this show. Seeing a commercial for it one night actually left me intrigued about it that I thought it was something I might check out if there was nothing else on. Well, it turned out there was nothing else on! Ha ha ha. Actually, referencing The AV Club, I was surprised to see the pilot get an A- review with the following headline, "Please oh please, don’t let Crazy Ex-Girlfriend’s title deter you. The [fall] season’s most inventive pilot is a whirlwind." This intrigued me so I read and was now more interested in checking out. As it turned out, the station that normally plays Elementary aired the first 3 episodes of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend in the Elementary timeslot until the new Elementary season began. So, I checked it out and was hooked. On Rotten Tomatoes, it has a critical consensus at 96% and an audience consensus of 83%. The scores for the first 7 episodes of the show so far on the AV Club have been A-, B+, B+, A-, B+, A-, and A- respectively. Of the current comedies I watch right now, which admittedly isn't a lot, this is my favorite.

I never got into Glee or Smash but unlike those shows, the songs sung on Crazy Ex-Girlfriend are not just popular songs grafted into the show. They are all original made for the show. In addition, most are comedic in nature making them more comparable to Weird Al's orginal songs on his album. In addition, the show is constantly changing up the style and type of song it displays. There's been a county song, French song, rap song, 30's style musical and others. The songs continue to be a highlight of each episode and I marvel at well the show has been able to constantly come up with all this material of songs and at a great consistent level.

It's got a great cast and part of the fun has been meeting more and more of the inhabitants and people that make up West Covina and Rebecca's world. That's not to say the songs are the only source of comedy. There are still plenty of other jokes when not in song which is actually the majority of the episode. I think the songs take a while to perform and edit so they are generally not that long but keeping them short and sweet is probably another reason why they are so successful. Yet, at the same time, the show has an odd heavy undercurrent to it as the main character does seem to suffer in some ways from a mental disorder. It's comes off as very believable depiction despite the heightened reality that the show exists in and yet it's direction and writing is such that you don't feel unease at the performance. It's able to blend comedy and drama so well together and it truly comes off as a unique show. As much as TV is filled with the brilliant but troubled genius type trope, this is something that takes it in a new direction. As the theme song says, "She's so broken inside. The situation is a lot more nuanced than that."

I'll finally be shutting up about TV tonight to go watch the newest episode that airs tonight. But I've just got to do my part and shill for Crazy Ex-Girlfriend and get the word out.

And hey, just to give you an idea of what I'm talking about, here's one quick little song that appeared on the show. I'd say this is probably a lesser song as there are others I think better than it but I don't want to spoil those as I'd prefer people just watched the show fresh as I've been able to. In this clip, Rebecca is thinking about people she can invite to a house warming party. The episode deals with the trauma she also experienced at another party she had as a young girl so the clip is showing the similarity between the young Rebecca and the older Rebecca. That said, watching it again for the 5th time, the song still makes me smile and laugh. Maybe that's because I have a better context for it but I hope it will still make a good representation without that insider knowledge.


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 01, 2015, 12:30:14 PM
Person of Interest season 5 won't premiere in January after all and will be "announced at a later date".

It's fair to say the show is all but dead at this point (despite season 4 being fantastic) even though the ratings was decent.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 01, 2015, 09:36:22 PM
Khush:  Thanks for you analysis of the DC shows.

I must say, I never understood the disappointment in the Arrow seasons.  There was a drop in quality storytelling, but it was never to the point of unwatchable, and the third season was really needed to push the story forward, and try to move Arrow closer to the Green Arrow franchise.  I really hope with the addition of magic and metahumans that trick arrows will begin to be used.  There is no reason not to use them...and it would help Oliver keep his no kill rule now...or rather no kill sorta rule.

The Flash embraces everything about comic books the good and the bad.  The confusing and the silly and it is glorious for it.  I predict it will eventually get too nerdy and difficult for either non-fans or non-comic book fans to follow, but the fact that it is embracing its roots and doing so well is a good sign.

Supergirl is just a weak series.  It has so much potential, but it is going to have to survive this first season and then hopefully the creators will re-evaluate what they are doing.  My biggest problem with the series is that it feels like the designers put a huge paint of estrogen over the Superman mythos.  It really just feels like a female superman and not in a good way.  Kara is just Clark Kent, bumbling assistant at a newsroom looking foolish to confuse people, or worse yet actually is foolish and naive. 

Then there is the fact that everyone must push the female twist to the story.  If the villain is a man they will underestimate Supergirl because she is a woman.  But of course the big bad has to be a woman...it is just too cliche.  I understand why they do it, but it is just annoying that it must be done that way. 

Finally, it is annoying to see the series get all the little details wrong.  Heat Vision should not be white, but red.  Kryptonese is not the but Kyptonian.  You must get the small details right or things just look half-assed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 02, 2015, 12:29:26 AM

Finally, it is annoying to see the series get all the little details wrong.  Heat Vision should not be white, but red.  Kryptonese is not the but Kyptonian.  You must get the small details right or things just look half-assed.


Maybe her heat vision is HOTTER than Superman's. Maybe because she is HOTTER than Superman.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 02, 2015, 01:54:16 AM
The show brass actually mentioned that specifically. 

They wanted it blue to differentiate it from "her cousin".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 02, 2015, 02:54:17 AM
Khush:  Thanks for you analysis of the DC shows.

I do it for you, Spak-Spang. The only person here brave enough to read my walls of text.

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I must say, I never understood the disappointment in the Arrow seasons.  There was a drop in quality storytelling, but it was never to the point of unwatchable, and the third season was really needed to push the story forward, and try to move Arrow closer to the Green Arrow franchise.

And now you've got me going off on Arrow some more. Once I start it's hard to stop. Here, have another wall of text.

It wasn't necessarily unwatchable but I did feel the frustrations of others with the way characters were handled and some of the story decisions. I think the biggest things that caused such a backlash were, in no particular order, the slowing of story momentum, having a more insular threat, and weak flashbacks.

If you consider the pace of the show from the middle of Season 1 to the conclusion as a lot of its plot threads started to come together, it gained a better storytelling momentum as it started letting those various dominoes drop. This momentum carried into season 2 when we got introductions to Brother Blood, Isabel Rochev, Sara Lance, Anthony Ivo and others like Nyssa al Ghul or Barry Allen. At the same time as those factors were being introduced, there was the fallout from Season 1 to deal with like Moira's trial, Laurel and Oliver's grieving of Tommy and the eventual incorporation of Roy Harper into Team Arrow.

After setting up the friendship of Oliver and Slade Wilson in Season 1, season 2 brought that friendship to an end and helped make all the flashbacks to that point even more relevant by making Slade Wilson the person orchestrating all the ongoing threats currently in the present. I was concerned about it back when we would talk about season 2 that they may have rushed in using Slade Wilson in the present too soon (and judging with how Season 3 went, I think was right on that prediction) but it was a fun ride at the same time and just kept the show and story going at a fast pace until it finally ended in a way that was mostly predicated by everyone watching yet oddly a little flat. Strangely enough, I think it was the threat of Amanda Waller ready to level Starling City and everyone in it that deflated that ending. We could buy into the League of Assassins working to fight against Slade's Mirakuru army but if they failed, the idea of nuking the city just seemed to preposterous to ever take seriously. It overstretched itself somehow. The flashback ending battle worked for me but the present day somehow didn't

The biggest going into Season 3 was that the show had used up a lot of long gestating plot lines and potential ideas. One of the few things left to explore was the relationship of Thea and Malcolm which had some potential. Then there was Ra's Al Ghul which the show had slowly been building towards with Malcolm mention the League in Season 1 and then Season 2's growth and expansion of the League's elements via Nyssa, Sara and the various foot soldiers shown. The only big problem was that there was no reason for Ra's to currently target Starling City especially when he didn't even approve of Malcolm's levelling the Glades. The other thing was that Felicity had the most chemistry with Oliver so that was an area that could perhaps grow in story potential as well. Yet, none of those things really screams momentum aside from the appearance of Ra's. As for the Flashbacks, they took Oliver off the island so that everything the flashbacks had built up in the past two seasons was gone and that whole part of the story had to start fresh.

Having watched all of Season 3 at the time, when you think of the flashbacks, how would you break down the story to someone? How would you tell it? It can be done particularly if you gloss over a lot of the first half of the flashbacks to just say Oliver gets partnered with Katana's husband and has to work for Amanda Waller to capture a virus. If you think more deeply about the flashbacks though and the details of them and how the whole story plays out, it is a mess. A lot of it is a nonsensical mess. They wanted you to gain sympathy for the Katana family but it never really happened. They telegraphed the outcome of the son's death way to early by the present day versions of those characters and the whole Katana clan was just written poorly, they never really clicked in with the cast and they ultimately didn't contribute much to the Arrow story and season unlike most other characters that have been introduced and used.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 02, 2015, 02:55:23 AM
That's momentum, weak flashbacks and now the insular threat. It's not necessarily a bad thing but it something that works a bit more in a single or couple episodes than a whole over-arcing season plot. In many ways, we often see the characters deal with an insular threat or life problem every week anyways that they have to conquer or deal with.

It starts with the death of Sara which wasn't the best choice as most fans liked her more than Laurel and after wondering when Laurel would become Black Canary in Season 1, no fans were asking that anymore in Season 2. In fact, there was more requests for Laurel to leave the show probably than for her to become Black Canary. I liked that because it also challenged the fans and there expectations. If someone else could be Black Canary and it was this successful, well then maybe Oliver doesn't have to eventually end up with Laurel and could end up with Felicity. And maybe the show doesn't have to stick that closely to the comic source material to make the fans happy and still be successful. I just like how Season 2 seemed to open up this creative freedom because so many of the decisions made pretty much worked. With the death of Sara and then Laurel working to become Black Canary, it seemed to signal that the source material would, in the end, always be followed or take precedence. So, it was another reason why I was disappointed at Sara's exit.

Anyways, the season starts with the death of Sara. Not exactly a huge threat or something that really affects the city in the long scheme of things but it does set off the various characters on different paths and it is a sort of ongoing mystery that is touched on while dealing with various threats of the week. The big takeaway is that with Sara's connection to the League, it has finally caused Ra's to turn his attention to Starling City if only to honor League code as he does not seem particularly concerned about the actual loss of Sara. The truth is revealed, Oliver goes to save his sister and should pretty much be dead but survives because the show wants to do a twist on fans expectations of expecting the Lazarus Pit to heal Oliver in one of the many cases of these subversions of fan expectations not working as well as the did in Season 2. I would say part of that problem coming from the fact that the subversions or twists never came across as better than what the fans expected would happen whereas the twists actually did surpass what people thought would happen in Season 2.

Again, though, aside from Ra's threatening to hurt Starling City if Sara's murderer isn't brought forth, this whole plotline is only affecting Team Arrow. There are no stakes for the rest of the city. It's part of why just as the Katana clan doesn't mesh well with the crew, Ray Palmer also doesn't quite fit in despite possibly being the best thing about Season 3. He's just there to steal Felicity's heart. He doesn't have much reason to interact with any of the other members of Oliver's world. However, Ray has a secret. He wants to be a superhero after the Arrow helped him. So, eventually, he works his way into joining the crew in his season long arc but the whole Ra's issue really doesn't involve him much since he's joining up so late in that story and is still stuck as just "fighting" Oliver for Felicity and just seems to join the fight against the League because it seems like a good way to please Felicity.

There is some good stuff with Team Arrow learning to grow on their own without Oliver. I liked the incorporation of Thea into Team Arrow. Oliver's protection of Malcolm did start to become a bit weird. Ra's then offering/demaning Oliver become the next Ra's was something I was ok with but as so many people complained about at the time, we were never given any reason as to what the downside would be or why Oliver should refuse the offer. Quentin blaming Oliver for Sara's death and cover up is a bit rough but it does lead to what may be the season 3 highlight when Ra's succeeds in getting the city to turn against the Arrow and Quentin is on fire to hunt him down and end the Arrow saga followed with Team Arrow's plan to save Oliver and end the whole thing. Finally, Oliver agrees to take up Ra's on his offer. Again, these plotlines aren't necessarily bad but most of them don't create that much excitement in a viewer like uncovering Malcolm's conspiracy or Slade Wilson orchestrating a plan of revenge against Oliver. The unevenness of draining Katana son's death from much surprise or drama since you knew it was coming while not giving the viewer any reason to understand or agree with Oliver's decision to refuse Ra's offer until like the last two episodes made the storylines more frustrating. Finally, in the end, it is revealed that Oliver has to destroy Starling City with the virus from the flashbacks (which never explain how Ra's even ended up with the virus in the first place) and that they have to save Starling and stop Ra's. But by then, it is too late for it to mean much. It just feels arbitrary and a desperate ploy to raise the stakes for the finale and quite contrary to the whole season storyline which wasn't about Ra's wanting to destroy Starling City for league business but just about how Oliver is battling over how he thinks he needs to act, how he wants to act and how others think he should act.

In the end, it did bring us to this point where Oliver has seemed to finally learn he doesn't have to be the dark and lonely Arrow he thought he would have to be and that it wasn't the only way to make things work. It's helped lead the cast to better set-ups this season and with the way things have been going, it seems the writers are fixing what ended up not working in Season 3. Flashbacks back on the island, Sara resurrected, Quentin and Oliver beginning to work together again, a more focused threat with Darhk and H.I.V.E. that has stakes for everyone in Star City and improved action. I'm not sure if Arrow can ever recover its momentum from the end of Season 2 but there are signs that this show has quite a bit of life left in it yet.

Enjoy reading that, NWR!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 02, 2015, 03:28:57 AM
My only two quibbles, which are quite minor, with Arrow season 4 is how two of the three best recurring guest actors (Baron and Conklin) are limited to the island.

Also, the show needs more salmon ladder.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 02, 2015, 02:47:32 PM
Thanks for the commentary Khush. It's got me ready to get back into Arrow.


And for the record, I read your walls of text. I just don't always respond. Not much left to say after one of your walls.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 02, 2015, 06:26:36 PM
And for the record, I read your walls of text. I just don't always respond. Not much left to say after one of your walls.

Same. Although i agree with the AV club reviews being worthy of a read.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 02, 2015, 06:28:48 PM
Khush all of that analysis is interesting and has some points.

I haven't seen season 1 I started with season 2, which I thought was an excellent season and showed many character making choices I would have made.  I do understand that Waller wanting to nuke an entire city would be crazy, and that was far-fetched.  Though I wonder if there was a city being taken over by super powered terrorists in America what would the government do to stop it?  A bomb that could be covered up and blamed on terrorists might be the decision made.

But she was obviously being used in that situation to set her up as a big player in season 3.  Actually, season 3s flashbacks were interesting to me.  I thought it was perhaps the strongest part of season 3...I did care about Katana's family and their son.  I enjoyed the different feel of the action and the more spy and espionage elements of the flashbacks.  I enjoyed the not knowing with Amanda Waller was good or bad throughout those flashbacks.  No, to me the Flashbacks were the strongest part of season 3. 

I also understand why they killed Sara.  Without Sara's death then Laurel never becomes Black Canary.  I also like how they solved the idea of there being 2 Black Canaries in the comic book by this sister solution.  I liked the dark story and direction of Lance and Laurel struggling together with grief. 

What I didn't like was the writers never explained why becoming the new Raz Al Ghul was a bad thing for Oliver.  He kept on fighting against it, but you never understood why...if they would of had a conversation about how the current 'Al Ghul wiped out his city and killed all his loved ones then it would have made sense.  One bit of dialog for the audience to understand what was at stake. 

To me season 1 is Revenge
Season 2 is becoming a Hero
Season 3 is The Trial of a Hero and having everything taken from you.
Season 4 is rising accepting your team and rising to be something more.

I am hoping that after this season they skip the flash backs.  I would be curious about attempting a flash forward story.  Perhaps one where Arrow is fighting a villain whose identity needs up being someone personal to him, but he doesn't know it...like Arsenal.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 02, 2015, 08:22:28 PM
And for the record, I read your walls of text. I just don't always respond. Not much left to say after one of your walls.

Same.

Khush all of that analysis is interesting and has some points.

Oh. Ok. Not bad for a dope on the internet, I guess. :-[

I just hope this means you are all going to check out Crazy Ex-Girlfriend then!  >:(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 02, 2015, 08:43:44 PM
Nope.  I am only watching Flash, Arrow, and old Parks and Rec...Oh and I guess TMNT...and Jessica Jones.  This is already twice as much television than I usually watch. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 02, 2015, 09:51:21 PM
Too much good television! I have more shows to watch than I will ever get through unless I swear off videogames. That ain't happening!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2015, 01:35:06 AM
Too much good television! I have more shows to watch than I will ever get through unless I swear off videogames. That ain't happening!

That's exactly what I did.... and I have no interest to even attempt going back.


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And Khush, I'm gonna need a similar Wall of Text (WoT!?) for Agents of SHIELD and the Marvel Netflix shows as well when you have the time... assuming you are of course watching the MCUTV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on December 03, 2015, 03:20:48 AM
Too much good television! I have more shows to watch than I will ever get through unless I swear off videogames. That ain't happening!

That's exactly what I did.... and I have no interest to even attempt going back.

This seems to be happening with me though I do seem to fight it once in awhile and give gaming a go for a bit. I'm probably averaging about 12 games I can mostly fully complete and play in a year despite there being so many I'd like to dive into. That's not a bad average, I suppose, but it has the advantage of me being pretty choosy about what I play and I have to really want to play a game to choose it over others so meaning there is some desire to play it and spend that amount of time with it.

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And Khush, I'm gonna need a similar Wall of Text (WoT!?) for Agents of SHIELD and the Marvel Netflix shows as well when you have the time... assuming you are of course watching the MCUTV.

WoT, WoT! It's Khushrenada Ramblings in the house! Totally think I may trademark Khushrenada WoT WoT! Thanks BnM for the inspiration!




Except I've never watched Agents of SHIELD.....



or have Netflix....



or have watched any of these other Marvel shows....



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But I could talk about Crazy Ex-Girlfriend some more....



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Ok.


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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 03, 2015, 06:53:40 AM
Ok, I just finished Jessica Jones. 

The final episodes were too much for me.  They went hard rated R fast, and they didn't need to.  I mean seriously hard R...horror stuff really.  I wish they would have tried to keep it in the hard PG-13 or light R realm. 

The series does do a good job of talking about adult issues like addiction and sex and how they can destroy lives.  All the themes and issues they explored seemed to be interesting, but again, I felt like they could have done it with more class.  There was too much sex for the sake of having sex on screen, and it could have been shown differently and honestly made me uncomfortable. 

What I didn't like was the last conflict.  Kilgore should have been more clever, and if you are going to go for more surprise, he should have done more to the girl to get to Jessica.  I mean, you need to sell the audience better...and they just didn't. 

I think I would give the series a solid B.  It was good, perhaps very good...but not excellent.  I also hope we don't get a season 2.  We don't need a season 2.  Carry Jessica's story into Luke Cage's story.  We don't need an origin story for him...so just let them be a couple and move forward Luke Cage's series can effectively be Jessica Jones season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 04, 2015, 02:33:20 AM
I bet Luke's show will have lots of Flashbacks to the "experiments" that created his condition.
and Jessica Jones S2 should basically be Hero's for Hire, Co-starring Luke and introducing Iron Fist.


and Khush... get on that AoS and use a free month of Netflix to watch DD and JJ, but wait till next year when Luke Cage's show comes out. marathon all 3 and WoT for me. ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 27, 2015, 06:38:18 PM
Scream Queens - Delightfully Cheesy in all the best ways.

I just enjoy this show so much. It's a cheesy "who-done-it" serial killer slasher fest on a college campus that certainly doesn't take anything seriously as it mocks horror movies down to the stupid people proudly making stupid decisions that always ultimately lead to someone being dead.... or not.

either way, I haven't finished the season yet (on ep10 now), but if  you are a fan of horror and comedy, I suggest you give this one a shot.


edit: Just finished S1, and the verdict is that this show is ridiculous, crass, crude, slightly racist, very classist, a little gory, twisted, funny and most definitely cheesy (in the best way of course) with a few jump scares. It is aware of all these things and goes full steam ahead with it. I look forward to a S2, assuming it was meant to be more than a 1 season show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 10, 2016, 09:23:19 PM
I remember some people throwing hate around towards Avenger Assemble.

I've been catching up on it this past week, and I actually find it quite funny.
I really liked EMH, but I see nothing wrong with this version of the show other than they canceled EMH so that this could take it's place.

currently about 9 eps into S2 and enjoying it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 10, 2016, 09:24:35 PM
I'm a few episodes into Assemble and nothing truly stood out to me other than the scene with Hulk in his room with the glass figures. That was hilarious. I'll keep at it and see if it gets better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 10, 2016, 09:27:38 PM
I'm a few episodes into Assemble and nothing truly stood out to me other than the scene with Hulk in his room with the glass figures. That was hilarious. I'll keep at it and see if it gets better.

A lot of the most humorous moments revolve around Hulk. whether is something that happened to him, because of him, or a one liner dropped by him. A lot of the time is it also involves Thor and/or Hawkeye, but mostly almost always includes The Hulk.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 10, 2016, 10:23:12 PM
Hulk has been the best to watch. I liked the one where everyone turned 'hulk' and the original has to act as a mentor/parent to them, with lots of smashing to keep them in line.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 10, 2016, 11:38:07 PM
There is a mind swap ep in S2 that probably had me wake the neighbors.
I think pretty much everyone was part of the LOL's on that episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on January 12, 2016, 07:47:32 AM
It's funny. The cartoon actually has MORE freedom than the movies. They get to follow the comic book exactly if they'd like. For instance, they did Ultron arc months before the movie and it was actually better. The threat was better, the story was better, and the ending was epic.

Plus, there's a scene in one of the infinity stone episodes where Thor gets hit so hard he collides with the moon. Actually speaking of that episode, all the Avengers die when faced with the time stone except Thor and his line right before he fucks up the enemy is exactly why I watch comic book cartoons. I wish the movies will get that geeky awesome in the future.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2016, 12:14:18 AM
SO I just watched a few episodes of Teen Titans Go! today, and OMG this cartoon had me laughing so damn loud.

a few random episodes, just some random stuff that happens, and comments that are made. completely caught off guard.

Like the "looks don't matter" episode Starfire(?) put on makeup and they covered her w/ the paperbag (edit: I think the ep was called The Croissant, which that part of the ep was hilarious as well), or the Justice League episode where Beastboy was Martian Manhunter... you know the martian that hunts mans. Manhunter Beastboy says "I want to hunt me some mens". and a few other eps that I can't recall all the details on right now.

point being, don't let the little kiddie look deter you from this one (my daughter wanted to watch, so I figured this was better than yet another round of Wild Krats, or some other toddler toon she usually likes to watch). I can't speak for all the eps, but the majority of the ones I've seen have had some quite hilarious moments.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 24, 2016, 02:35:33 AM
Well you got me turned on to Avengers Assemble so I'll give this a shot once that is done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 24, 2016, 03:26:03 AM
Well you got me turned on to Avengers Assemble so I'll give this a shot once that is done.

I haven't seen many episodes. according to CN.com, S1 is 52 episodes.
I only watched 5 or so episodes from S3... I think there are a total of 11 streamable online, but I wasn't paying attention during all of them. They are only like 10 minutes long each episode.

So I can't vouch for S1 or S2, but what I've seen of S3 was pretty funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on January 25, 2016, 02:38:01 PM
I just started this new sitcom, forgot the title but it basically makes fun of people who work at Walmart stores, hilarious I love it I want to see more of this. I was a little turned off by the start of the pilot but by the end of the second episode I was hooked and wanted more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 26, 2016, 01:02:11 AM
X-Files S10 E2 was better than the pilot. Well told story with heart.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Evan_B on January 26, 2016, 03:36:24 PM
Was waiting for someone to comment on X-Files, too chicken to put my opinion out there at first.

Episode 1 was definitely an attempt to rope new viewers into the franchise, setting the ground work without really committing to a "story arc," just altering an old one. Episode 2 was a step up, with good side-characters but very predictable plot twists saw the boy in the janitor position/roof of the car coming from FAR away while also a continuation of the storyline of Episode 1(you'd barely notice it if you didn't watch Episode 1, though, which is the best part about a series). Mulder and Scully both seem a bit older and weary, which may be part of the appeal of the series to newbies and vets alike but its kind of sad, in a way. I can't seem to recall if they called each other by their last names all that much in the old series (it's been a while since I've seen it).

Also, the Teen Titans episode that features Young Justice is one of the most ridiculous and enjoyable cartoons I've seen in a long time. Evokes parts of Spongebob Squarepants' E.V.I.L. episode foor a new generation.

And Conan gifs are lame.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 28, 2016, 03:39:01 AM
Is anyone watching The Expanse? It's dense, complex, space sci-fi and its quite enjoyable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 29, 2016, 01:04:51 AM
I've never even heard of it. What's the premise?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 30, 2016, 03:01:28 PM
I've pinched this from wiki as its the best description without spoilers:

Quote
Two hundred years in the future, in a fully colonized Solar System, police detective Josephus Miller (Thomas Jane), born in the asteroid belt, is given the assignment to find a missing young woman, Julie Mao (Florence Faivre). Meanwhile, James Holden (Steven Strait), the Executive Officer of the ice freighter Canterbury, is involved in a tragic incident that threatens to destabilize Earth, Mars and the Belt. Far away from their struggles in space, Chrisjen Avasarala (Shohreh Aghdashloo), a United Nations executive, works to prevent war between Earth and Mars by any means necessary. Soon, the three find out that the missing woman and the ice freighter's fate are part of a vast conspiracy that threatens all humanity.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 31, 2016, 04:01:25 PM
I watched a Jonny Carson Tonight Show rerun last night. Talk shows were much better back then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Evan_B on February 03, 2016, 08:55:49 PM
My mother and father were big fans of the X-Files when it originally aired. My dad's first chance to watch the new series was on Monday.

It was kind of a bad place to start.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 04, 2016, 10:19:43 PM
Last nights episode of It's Always Sunny.

If you were ever a fan of this show, last nite's episode was GOLD.
Mac & Dennis move to the suburbs. that's all I'm gonna say about it. now go watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 07, 2016, 05:44:17 PM
I've been catching up on The Grinder, which is in its first season on Fox right now. It's got a great cast, with Rob Lowe as a guy who just got done as the star of a long-running hit legal drama who moves back to his home town to work in a real law firm with his actual-lawyer brother, played by Fred Savage. I've been looking for new comedy to watch since Community and Parks & Rec ended, and while this isn't quite as good as either of those, I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 07, 2016, 05:52:50 PM
Saturday Night Live last night with Larry David (and the next President) - very good. Best episode in years. Every skit was funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 07, 2016, 11:57:39 PM
I've been catching up on The Grinder, which is in its first season on Fox right now. It's got a great cast, with Rob Lowe as a guy who just got done as the star of a long-running hit legal drama who moves back to his home town to work in a real law firm with his actual-lawyer brother, played by Fred Savage. I've been looking for new comedy to watch since Community and Parks & Rec ended, and while this isn't quite as good as either of those, I'm really enjoying it.


Would you recommend Community to someone who just got into Parks and Rec and is loving it? I'm about done with S3 and will be in the market for a new comedy once I'm done with that series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 08, 2016, 12:19:44 AM
Community is one of my favorite TV comedies ever, but it's fairly different from Parks & Rec. It's very conceptual, with a lot of episodes that basically parodies of different genres of movies or TV. It's also very self-referential, along the lines of something like Arrested Development, with a ton of in-jokes and details you need to be paying attention to pick out. I'd definitely recommend checking it out if that sounds at all appealing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on February 08, 2016, 10:43:36 AM
I loved Community, it was one of my favorite comedies in recent years. I will say this, it's not for everyone. It is a geek's show if you aren't a geek you are likely to not like it. If you are then your chances of enjoying it increase a lot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 09, 2016, 12:58:04 AM
Well, I am a geek so it is probably right up my alley. Though an overboard in the parody department could end up being a turn-off. It needs to be done right. I'll give it a shot after I finish P&R.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 15, 2016, 08:59:53 PM
So I finally finished S3 of Arrow. And I quite enjoyed it. I didn't feel the flaws others stated earlier hurt it as much as it had sounded like in the comments, and I did enjoy the ending. Not sure where the show will go from here but I don't intend to come back for a while. It was a nice stopping point until S4 or S5 hits Netflix. I did end up liking Thea -or at least deciding that I didn't hate her character- by the end of the season.


More interested in getting back into Agents of Shield, Daredevil S2, Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow. I also need to hop back on the Gotham train at some point.


I guess I can let the Game of Thrones hype begin to build since that will be back in a month and a half.


Lastly, I've started a chronological run of Clone Wars because I have a bit of a Star Wars bug right now. Rebels looks like it is becoming quite promising in S2 from what I have seen so far so I'm going back through Clone Wars (along with the newly released unfinished episodes of S7) then diving into Rebels completely.


I just remembered that Walking Dead and it's spin-off exist. Are those worth watching or is the series pretty much done? I have not been into it this season and just can't motivate myself to carry on with it right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 15, 2016, 09:00:04 PM
The Walking Dead - 10/10

The best episode of the entire series, and one of the best episodes of any TV show, ever. It's basically #83 and #84 from the comics, hence the name of the episode is the same as comic #84, No Way Out - which I never thought they'd do on TV...but they did, and it was amazing. Of course there are difference characters in the show, and different weapons like Daryl using Abraham's fucking RPG launcher to blow up the first batch of The Saviors! But god damn that was a great episode. It will be very tough to beat that one, but the rest of this season should be absolutely amazing. The part that they're in as it aligns with the comics is one of the best parts of the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 15, 2016, 09:01:25 PM
Funny you post that right after I asked about TWD's status. Guess we need to hop back on that wagon sooner than I expected.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 15, 2016, 09:02:11 PM
Do it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on February 16, 2016, 02:15:44 AM
It took me a couple moments to comprehend WTF happened at the start of that episode, but god damn, that was some good payoff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2016, 05:52:45 PM
American Crime Story - The People VS O.J. Simpson

This show had me hooked after about 20 minutes of its first episode. 2 episode have aired already and the third airs tonight. So far, I highly recommend it. The O.J. Simpson trial is one that I was that I hardly knew any details about since I was just a kid at the time and didn't know who O.J. Simpson was. I just remember visiting my grandparents and my granddad was often watching the trial on TV and it might come up in conversation with him and my parents. I remember watching the news and seeing people's reactions to the verdict for some reason but didn't really understand what all the attention about it was aside from the fact that it was big news since people had been watching the trial. Growing up, I would slowly pick up details about the case but there were plenty of references and jokes in shows that flew over my head that I'd only realize and pick up on years later. As such, there's been plenty of things that I know about the trial but don't really know the relevance for them or how they fit into the case. So, to see the whole thing presented now in chronological, albeit a bit more dramatic, order is exciting for me.

Even if you know the story, I think you'll find this a treat to watch. I can see why this case got the attention it did and still does. Plus, the whole cast is strong. Some people have criticized Travolta's acting but I have no problem with it. I actually think it's some of the best work he's done in years. Everyone is putting in some great acting and I just can't wait to see what happens with the trial begins. Over 20 years later and the O.J. Trial still fascinates. I think a big part of that is because O.J. himself displays behavior that you'd expect both from someone innocent and guilty keeping you guessing. I'm curious to see what the arguments are from the prosecution and defense. This is top notch TV and I highly recommend it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2016, 06:16:40 PM
And Conan gifs are lame.


(http://yp.scmp.com/sites/default/files/images/tumblrmq9cviifqw1rlq5bgo1400.gif)


It's just that easy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2016, 06:44:45 PM
Crazy Ex-Girlfriend

Yeah, I'm going to keep promoting this show. Over the winter break, it's star Rachel Bloom already won some awards from it and it has come back with another three episodes as A-, B- and A+. That latest A+ has me fired up again to keep talking about this show and excited to watch it. There's nothing else like it on TV and, unlike many shows that go through some growing pains in their first season, it's started out great and has stayed consistently great. Here's a song about how great good it is.


There's also an explicit version of the song available on YouTube if that is what it will take to make you watch something from this show. Just wanted to remind you all it still exists and is still awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 16, 2016, 06:54:09 PM
Better Call Saul

I can't believe it's already been about a year. It seemed like it was taking forever to get to season 2 and suddenly here we are. While I'd say the standout moments were with the Mike, Pryce, Nacho storyline, it was still nice to be back in Jimmy/Saul's world and catching up with everyone again. Wondering where things are going to go now is just as much of the fun as watching Jimmy do his thing. After the tight writing job of Breaking Bad's later seasons and the first Season of BCS, I can't wait to see what the creative teams have constructed this year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on February 16, 2016, 07:24:18 PM
I don't believe Walt's dead.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4nKFKKcGQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb4nKFKKcGQ)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 19, 2016, 12:31:45 AM
The Following This is Bingeworthy /10

I watched one episode and then I was hooked.

I haven't seen season 3 yet, but season 1 and 2 are pretty enjoyable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 20, 2016, 05:30:16 PM
Legends of Tomorrow - Building a show around time travel is a risky idea because you have to explain all of these elements together properly and coherently. Doctor Who, especially since its reboot, has tackled this best around "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" and River Song.

But Legends makes this more difficult by adding immortality on top - Alias tackled this concept, also with Victor Garber, eleven years ago by simply incapacitating Sloane by blowing up an underground cavern on top of him and leaving him there. So why none of the characters in Legends can't do something similar is baffling.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on February 21, 2016, 04:14:07 PM
I just started Last Man on Earth. I really enjoyed the first season I watched it all in one sitting, but I am not enjoying season 2 nearly as much. It still has it's moments but I can't quite figure out what changed from the first to now. Anyways it isn't the funniest show I have come across in years but it's a nice place holder until some of my favorite shows come back. 3/5 so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 21, 2016, 09:53:34 PM
Plugabugz:  I am watching Legends of Tomorrow, and after a few rough episodes where they have to get this motley crew to like each other.  The show is getting better.  I think by mid-season the show should be pretty good.  The time travel elements are frustrating, but I am upset about the time travel.  So far, they are treating time and space the same way Doctor Who does.  What I mean is that each time jump is basically just a new location for an adventure to occur.  Doctor Who is one of the worst shows when it comes to doing intelligent time travel stories, but that is because that is not the focus of the series.  The focus is adventure throughout time...not adventures of time travel.  What is the difference?  Well, the difference is the first just focuses on having fun adventures in different time eras and the other focuses on the effects and ramifications of time travel. 

So Legends is taking a sorta Back to the Future/Doctor Who lighthearted take on time travel and that is fine.  However, dealing with immortal foe that does not have super powers should be incredibly easy for this team.  They have literally all the advantage in this battle.  1) Future technology.  2) Highly skilled team.  3) Advanced ship and computer AI  4) Determined crew with a real reason to succeed.  Literally nothing should stop them.  However, they are routinely defeated because of their own stupidity and when they do succeed they don't take advantage of their success.

Let's look at Vandal Savage's power.  1) He is immortal.  2) He can regenerate from all kinds of wounds.  3) He is highly skilled and extremely intelligent.  This should not be a problem for this team...when all they have to do is have one of their team kill him with her own weapon.  All that they need to do is keep him incapacitated until they can kill him.  Can they do that?  Yes, they have a freeze gun that completely allows for that to happen. 

Vandal Savage should not be a season long villain.  They should kill him quickly and then deal with the after effects of killing this evil man.  So how can they keep the time travel story interesting.  Here are a few ideas.

1) Vandal Savage himself in the future has a time machine and he is using this technology to give him an edge even earlier in history and causing massive problems with the time steam.  He continually prevents them from killing his younger self.

2) Similar story arc, but someone from the Time Council doesn't want the team to succeed so they keep on going back in time to prevent their success or aid Savage.  This Time Councilor could then become the new series big bad.

3) They kill Vandal Savage early in history and they cause a huge time Paradox preventing them from going home, because they were in the Time Vortex when the world changed.  They are trapped outside their own time.  Now they must choose between letting Vandal Savage win, or trying to fix the time streams in such a way that they can go back to their own time. 

4) Last Idea Quantum Leap/Sliders the story.  Let them succeed in defeating Vandal Savage, but in the process they time ship is destroyed and they are thrown into for Vortex landing in a random time and they must have adventures in time trying to survive and not damage the time line...hoping they will find a time hole back to their correct time. 

All of these ideas have more potential than just Vandal Savage.  Who is an awesome villain, just not good for time travel stories...as he is beatable in this version of the character.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 22, 2016, 01:40:03 AM
Agent Carter

For me, season 2 is way, way better than season 1. I watched season 1 because the posters of Peggy in a red hat suggested a fun neo-noir type adventure. However, that did not turn out to be the case. The problem with season 1 is how the shop wanted to keep changing tone every episode. Moreover, it's plot was complex yet nonsensical. I mean, seriously, when you think about the first two episodes and the last two episodes, it's hard to see how they are connected based on the villains and motives and there were only 4 episodes in between them. Needless to say, as the only Marvel TV show I'd seen so far, I wasn't that impressed with what I saw and didn't even care that much about Season 2.

The only reason I watched it is because ABC decided to play a repeat of the first two episodes on Sunday night that week and since there was nothing else on, I thought I'd record it and just see what it was like. I'm glad I did because whoever is working on the show learned some lessons from season 1 and are doing a much better job this year. Right now, Agent Carter is leagues above Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow and is in The Flash and Arrow territory of top comic book programming and, frankly, I'm almost more excited to see this on Tuesday then The Flash.

Unlike Season 1, Season 2 has made clear exactly who the villains are this year and what the threat is while still keeping some mystery to it. Peggy has engaged them early and thus there is a greater conflict between the heroes and villains. It's been able to blend humour and drama much better. While the first season may have been a mess tonally and in plot direction, it did contain some character development for various individuals and season 2 is smartly utilizing that history with its character development this time out giving most of the players their own conflicts along with the main plot. I would say that only Jarvis has lacked in having any conflict but this latest episode has now given him that. Perhaps the most surprising thing about season 2 is Dottie. She may be my favorite character this season and captivates all attention whenever she's on screen. I seriously want more screen time for her and I'd almost forgotten she existed after season 1. While the show still isn't perfect and has some moments I'd deem less successful, I've been willing to let them slide because the show is staying pretty strong the rest of the time.

With only 3 episodes left, I'm actually pretty excited to see how this is all going to turn out. This is very different from season 1 where I only watched the end of it because I'd already watched most of it so I might as well stick it out to the end and just kind of endured through it. Sort of like what I'm doing with Supergirl these days. Alright, maybe there's one thing that does bug me about Season 2. It has to do with Zero Matter. I get there's mystery behind it and no is quite sure of what it is and can do yet. However, all Whitney Frost can do is control it to envelope and disappear objects and things. Her greatest display of this came when she enveloped a bunch of dudes sitting around a table. How is this a world changing power that she keeps talking about? Is this all there is to Zero Matter? And let's talk about the effort to subdue her. Two restraining ropes are put around her neck. What was the plan there? After she breaks free from the ropes and wants revenge, no one tries to shoot her? For that matter, why have none of the other villains tried to take a pot shot or assassinate her since? There's been no evidence that Zero Matter can stop a bullet or make her bullet proof. There's been no evidence that Zero Matter has enhanced Whitney Frost in any other way besides sending out some Zero Matter from her hands that has to travel along the ground to a target. Seems to me that other people are capitulating to her way easier than I think they would and I just haven't been sold on her being this powerful demi-god like person the show seems to be pitching her as.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 22, 2016, 05:05:03 PM
Agent Carter has kept me going for two reasons alone:

1 - Hayley Atwell looks stunning. The 40s look is perfect on her.
2 - James D'Arcy and Hayley Atwell have such fantastic chemistry. Those two on screen alone is worth it.

Plugabugz:  I am watching Legends of Tomorrow, and after a few rough episodes where they have to get this motley crew to like each other.  The show is getting better.  I think by mid-season the show should be pretty good.  The time travel elements are frustrating, but I am upset about the time travel.  So far, they are treating time and space the same way Doctor Who does.  What I mean is that each time jump is basically just a new location for an adventure to occur.  Doctor Who is one of the worst shows when it comes to doing intelligent time travel stories, but that is because that is not the focus of the series.  The focus is adventure throughout time...not adventures of time travel.  What is the difference?  Well, the difference is the first just focuses on having fun adventures in different time eras and the other focuses on the effects and ramifications of time travel. 

You're right about Doctor Who's loose focus on time, but thats how it manages to get away with it. "wibbly wobbly timey wimey" literally explains everything away. Plus the narratively complicated River Song - River meeting the (tenth) Doctor for the final time, but the first time chronologically for him - means they can actually dive into that story and at the end tie it up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on February 22, 2016, 09:03:17 PM
I always thought River Song was a missed opportunity to play with time.  They did so much RIGHT with her...but I wanted a small tweak.

Personally, I liked the idea that she was a sorta half-bred Time Lord, though the explanation of how she became a Time Lord was stupid.

I would have loved her story to be that she aged through time in reverse, that her life span literally when the opposite flow of regular time.  This would have explained the general and everything about her strange relationship with the Doctor and would have been a fascinating play off of the character.  Having her be a weapon against the Doctor this aging would make sense too.  Because if she failed her life would still be going backwards to a point she would still know the Doctor but he wouldn't know her, so that she could attempt to kill him again.

Oh well. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 23, 2016, 12:55:10 AM
SO I just watched a few episodes of Teen Titans Go! today, and OMG this cartoon had me laughing so damn loud.

a few random episodes, just some random stuff that happens, and comments that are made. completely caught off guard.
Well you got me turned on to Avengers Assemble so I'll give this a shot once that is done.

here are 2 good moments from Teen Titans GO
https://www.facebook.com/TheOriginalBestOfTumblr/videos/vb.252714998213038/1145780622239800/?type=2&theater


in this last one, pause to read the boxes in the background.

just to give you a sense of the humor and randomness going on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2016, 01:16:22 AM
X-Files season 10 ends with a cliffhanger. I liked this mini season overall.

Episode 1 was bad
Episode 2 was good
Episode 3 was great
Episode 4 was good
Episode 5 was fair
Episode 6 was good.

Cigarette smoking man goes full Ras Al Ghul and finding William is an imperative now. Who is driving the UFO at the end?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 23, 2016, 02:02:52 AM
The Magicians

anyone been watching this?
A show on SyFy about a Harry Potter like school for young-adults who are coming into magic. and by Adults, I'm talking HS graduates looking to go to Yale, Harvard, or "Hogwarts" (aka Brakebills) if they are chosen and found to be worthy.

It comes on Monday nights, and so far has been pretty damn interesting. It's based off of a book series I've never read, but I'm into it. Either way, I find it quite interesting, and if you're looking for a new fantasy based series to get into, I think you should check this one out.

http://www.syfy.com/themagicians/videos/the-magicians-series-trailer
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2016, 04:35:37 PM
TWD E9

I'm about halfway through the episode and I had to pause it just to say HOLY ****.... did that just happen!!?
Kid sees another kid as a walker and freaks out.... gets eaten alive, his mom freaks out (understandably), but I don't see why she didn't just pick the damn kid up and carry his ass once he started freaking. Now that she is freaking out, the walkers turn on her, but she is holding onto Carl's hand with the death grip, which causes rick to chop her hand off. The sudden release makes Carl fall, dropping his gun, and now that kid he should have killed before because he tried to kill him earlier, now picks up the gun and point it at Rick and Carl, but Mischonne shish kabobs his ass, which still allowed him to pop off a single shot. Right thought carl's eye.


But of course Carl
is fine...

ok, back to the show now. may edit later.

and now E10.... why are Rick and Daryl such idiots!?

you find a BIG score like that, you take both vehicles back to camp immediately, drop the truck off, and then you both hop back in the car and get back to your little adventure. Pick up where you left off.
Not take the scenic route back... and then even after you get you score back, you decide to go chase down this other idiot that store from you instead of just driving off and watching him in your rearview mirror.
now you have a 3rd idiot and no truck. Happy now!?

WTF is wrong with you guys?
at least no one at camp will know that they scored a BIG haul, but were too stupid to return it to camp safely.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on February 28, 2016, 07:55:55 PM
The most important part of that episode was introduing Jesus, who is a badass (the guy from Walking Dead, not the other zombie Jesus). **** is gonna get weird soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2016, 09:15:12 PM
He already seems a little fun, but the whole incident should have been sped up 5x and have Benny Hill music played. LOL (edit: apparently I wasn't the only one to think of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUkYepOl0Jg )
they should totally go back for the truck full of supplies as well. But leave that to a smarter and more resourceful pair from the group.

What day does TWD come on again?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 29, 2016, 09:44:59 AM
when hey lost that haul I was thinking the same thing. How do you not bring that whole truck straight back? Take the truck, empty it, go on another run with a big hauling truck!

I don't know the safety of trying to tow the truck out of the water...there could be lurking walkers in the water. **** that. Unless you use a drone sub to hook it.

I was talking with my friend, I would be a governor type leader. I'd also have telecommunications set back up by now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 29, 2016, 10:15:20 AM
Legends of Tomorrow is a shitfest.  I want to like it.  I really do.  But man, this team is so fucking stupid.

I have a healthy suspension of disbelief, but I find myself yelling at the TV screen far too often.

One episode, Rip is talking about how the future timeline 'sets' and they have to fix it in the past before it does.
The very next episode, they visit is desolate future Star City, and Rip's all "yeah, **** these people, they don't matter, this isn't how the future will be when we're done."

It's no wonder the other Time Lords didn't want Rip fucking up the time stream.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 01, 2016, 04:37:56 AM
TWD

Jesus is a pretty funny dude. He fucked up, but he seems to be a pretty reasonable dude once you get to know him. LOL at the puddles and bits line. Got to kill someone or something in an episode.

But yeah, Rick and Daryl fucked up hard.

Chris Rock at the Oscars slayed me. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on March 01, 2016, 07:41:18 PM
noticed how the walkers are getting more decomposed in each season?
Soon no more walkers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on March 01, 2016, 08:12:27 PM
Then the skeleton hoard arises!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 01, 2016, 09:06:07 PM
Better Call Saul
It's really good. Not Breaking Bad good, but that's not a fair comparison. All around good performances. I don't have a lot to say without spoiling things so I'll stop here.

Love
It had some good jokes, but overall, I thought it was pretty weak. Love was full of cliches. The dorky guy meets the fucked up wild girl. He's so awkward and she's so crazy, what crazy shenanigans will they get into next. I watched this mostly because I like Gillian Jacobs. By episode 9, I actively disliked her character which isn't good because she's one of the leads. I just could not understand why Gus and Mickey ended up together. They're both assholes. It's like the writers are trying to subvert romantic comedy tropes, but they're doing a bad job of it. How did they get me to dislike Gillian Jacobs in this show? Britta > Mickey

Fuller House
I got to the third episode. I get what they're going for. It's a 90s family sitcom in 2016 clothing. I used to watch Full House as a kid and nostalgia got me to check it out. I think I've seen enough to stop watching before I feel compelled to continue just to see what happens. I never though Stephanie would be the hot one, but here we are.

This was tough to watch. It's self-aware, but it doesn't use that to its advantage. "Stephanie got big boobs, let's make a TV-G boob joke." This was a wasted opportunity. It's reverse-gender Full House which is exactly what they wanted, but that doesn't make it interesting. By the middle of the first episode, I started creating my own dark comedy version of Fuller House where Uncle Joey walks up from the basement but he still has the late-80s mullet and thinks it's 1988 due to drug-induced dementia. The entire family just humors him and plays along because they're afraid that he'll snap. Joey's sanity is such a delicate balance then Kimmy Gibler shows up and disrupts that balance by continually telling him it's 2016 because she doesn't know or is too daft to understand why everyone is acting so weird. Uncle Joey just flips out and descends into full-blown psychosis and murders everyone. It's Fuller House due to all the corpses. Roll credits.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 01, 2016, 09:35:52 PM
Legends of Tomorrow is a shitfest.  I want to like it.  I really do.  But man, this team is so fucking stupid.

I have a healthy suspension of disbelief, but I find myself yelling at the TV screen far too often.

One episode, Rip is talking about how the future timeline 'sets' and they have to fix it in the past before it does.
The very next episode, they visit is desolate future Star City, and Rip's all "yeah, **** these people, they don't matter, this isn't how the future will be when we're done."

It's no wonder the other Time Lords didn't want Rip fucking up the time stream.

Legends of Tomorrow could be turned around. 

I wish they would give the characters roles on the team. 

Rip Hunter should be the Director/Producer.  He shouldn't be on the missions, but he should be acting from the ship planning every move and jump.

Captain Cold should be the Team Leader partnered with The Atom.  They don't get along, the Atom is there to make sure Captain Cold doesn't "Go Rogue" and Captain Cold is the true brains.  This show really does need to focus on team adventures and planning...but honestly there mission is so silly and completely easy to finish.  Just go back in time and kill Vandal Savage before he becomes immortal.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 02, 2016, 12:06:42 AM
Just go back in time and kill Vandal Savage before he becomes immortal.

In theory, this is a bad idea.  Killing Savage 3,700-whatever years in the past would undo 3,700 years worth of the timeline.  That would have some pretty major repercussions for a guy who has been working in the background, manipulating major world events all this time.

On the other hand, this team has shown ZERO concern with trying to minimize their impact on the timeline, so **** it... might as well go back to 1700BC and just nuke Egypt from above.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 02, 2016, 01:22:38 AM
Just go back in time and kill Vandal Savage before he becomes immortal.

In theory, this is a bad idea.  Killing Savage 3,700-whatever years in the past would undo 3,700 years worth of the timeline.  That would have some pretty major repercussions for a guy who has been working in the background, manipulating major world events all this time.

On the other hand, this team has shown ZERO concern with trying to minimize their impact on the timeline, so **** it... might as well go back to 1700BC and just nuke Egypt from above.

Exactly.  We have seen that the plot to kill Vandal Savage is leading to stupid stories where characters are making horribly dumb decisions.  Why not play off the idea that this man is so out for revenge that he would screw the timeline up completely to save his family.  Only to find out he makes it worse and doesn't save his family.  Now his team has to somehow right world. 

Imagine the stories that could be told and the ethical questions that could rise from this type of story.  We killed Vandal Savage, but that means Russia and Germany work together in World War 2 in win.  We have prevent this alliance, but still keep Hitler in power to lose.  Each ripple in time has new and interesting effects that have to be fixed.  All the while, you have a team where 1 person actively wants to screw history and watch it burn.  Another wants to change the past for his financial benefit, and others that although are wanting to do the best they can to fix things are not really up for subtle time manipulation. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: michaelbaysuperfan616 on March 03, 2016, 11:56:07 AM
I gave the pilot of Fuller House a go. I really got into Melissa and Joey because it reunited 90's sitcom stars I fell in love with and watched religiously as a teenager. I was expecting the same magic here, although Melissa and Joey lost some of their magic after hooking up but it remained watchable until the wedding.

I also really got into Last Man Standing because it is the same thing, a gender flipped versions of a 90's sitcom and I love it, it works so well I can't get enough of it.


Fuller House doesn't work for a couple of reasons. One, I never liked Full House. My sisters did, I had three, I was outnumbered. So I watched it but I paid as much attention to it as they did when I was watching Transformers or TMNT. The jokes do come off as forced, the humor was well I guess what a fan of the show would expect but it didn't do it for me. The part of me that is getting older and wanting to hold onto my youth wanted to like it but it had no magic it did nothing for me.


That being said I did recently discover a modern sitcom that does have that magic that I not only have fallen in love with but also can't believe it took me this long to get into: The Goldbergs. I am so happy I found this show it is doing everything I wanted it to do, but I am sad I didn't discover it sooner.

I love how corney the show is at the same time it truly captures my memories of the 80's. I give it a pass on the references much like That 70's show and How I Met Your mother because I see it as a flash back I expect the narrator to get things mixed up on his memories because that is how our memories work. For years I thought Ninja Turtles didn't even come out until I was in third grade because that was when I started watching the cartoon and buying TMNT pajamas and crap, had that memory stuck in my head for two decades before I remembered all of a sudden, that I had already seen the two films and played all the NES and arcade games three years prior to that and then remembered oh yeah I already had all the action figures before then too. Don't know how I got that jumbled in my mind but I did.
Realizing that made me less critical of minor continuity mistakes in decade themed sitcoms because they are a persons memories, not an accurate account and I love that in one episode he talks about Top Gun and the next episode is waiting in line to see Return of the Jedi opening weekend.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 03, 2016, 01:21:25 PM
Supergirl - This show is crashing and burning as far as I'm concerned. Watching the latest episode with Brainiac Indigo was almost enough to get me to quit this show. Just so much of it is a hot mess combined with lazy storytelling. At this point, the only thing that seems to be working is the Hank/Kara/Alex relationship and even that's not perfect. However, there are only 5 episodes left in the season and there is a Flash crossover episode happening in one of them so I'll probably stick out the season. I might just do what I started doing with this episode and play me 3DS while the show is on and multitask. Maybe they'll burn everything down by season's end in order to revamp and refresh for a second season which might be the only way I come back. Or hire better writers.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2016, 01:24:18 AM
Hopefully the crossover is a good way to kind switch thing up a little bit.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 04, 2016, 07:35:49 PM
You know, if someone had told me there'd be an episode of pokemon that would feature Jessie's motherly side I'd have called them crazy yet here we are.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 06, 2016, 02:25:09 PM
Legends of Tomorrow: A show in which a guy steals a timeship and travels across space and time and travels with companions, frequently saving the world in the process.

And just to add more Doctor Who comparisons, the Waverider's captain is a companion of the previous Doctor.

Also, Rip made reference to Star City 2046 being a "possible future". That on its own implies *his own* future is a possible future too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 06, 2016, 03:43:14 PM
Legends of Tomorrow: A show in which a guy from the future steals a timeship and travels through time to stop an immortal "warlord" from destroying his current present... but in order to do that, he nor his team seem to realize that if you simply displace the man from his present time, you would remove him from any event in that timelines past till the present in which you placed him.

A show that you can in no way take seriously or hold to any sort of "logic" as that would create loopholes as most time travel shenanigans do. Not that anyone was taking it seriously.... but it's fun for what it is, and fits in the Flash-multi-arrowverse just fine.

Now to see how the Supergirl crossover goes, and the Vixen spinoff (if that happens).
I also believe there is still Titans on TNT if that ever gets off the ground, but not holding my breath for that one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 06, 2016, 04:52:17 PM
I don't mind that you can't take the show seriously - my issue is that the show tries to take itself too seriously and contradicts itself in the process.

Seriously, if you want to pitch me a show that says we can use a Macintosh laptop to create a virus overnight and hack into an attacking alien armada, I can suspend my disbelief and enjoy it for what it is.  But if you were to create a sequel where you tell me Apple products don't exist or the aliens don't use a wireless communication or something, I'm going to get pissed and yell at the TV.

Fiction does not have to comply with my understanding of *our* reality.  I'm okay with that.  But I want the fiction to comply with the continuity that it has created.  If they do an episode of the Arrow where, 8 years ago, Oliver is acting as Green Arrow and working with the Flash to kill Jimmy Olsen, I'm going to be pissed because Oliver wasn't Green Arrow 8 years ago, Flash didn't have his powers and Jimmy is still alive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 12, 2016, 01:49:10 PM
I started rewatching The Genius last week, starting from first season (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9suu7e7YWZ0rw06g9_cOi_cnzpeXeUCc).


So good. By far the smartest game show i saw and the only reality TV worth spending time on. And it's only gets better on rewatching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 13, 2016, 11:08:15 PM
I don't mind that you can't take the show seriously - my issue is that the show tries to take itself too seriously and contradicts itself in the process.

You know, I was just thinking... so if the whole reason for going back in time to stop Vandal Savage was to avenge the death of his family... why not just go back to just before they died and save them?

and if they really wanted to stop Savage at particular points in time... but continue to fail, why not just jump back to that moment again and again until you get it right? why can they only visit a particular moment once? Are they afraid there will be multiples of themselves in a single time instance?

time travel is so convoluted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 13, 2016, 11:45:16 PM
Black N Mild:  Logically it would probably be a very bad idea to have more than one version of yourself in a time stream.  The Flash already has been talking about how the Speed Force seems to have repercussions when you mess with time.  So there is probably a rule that prevents time travels to go to a place they already went existed. 

This is why they can not go back to that moment Hunter fought Savage and just beat him there.  It also tells why they can't just hit the reset button.  And if you call foul on this excuse it is the same logic that Back to the Future used...that somehow time must be paradox free and therefore when you mess with time you can have serious world altering effects.

It is also important to realize that Hunter's family dying is the cause that triggered his desire for the crusade but it became much bigger when he looked into history and saw just how much of the world was destroyed...and decided to stop it.

I speculate the future he is from that Vandal Savage must have already been stopped or he would have power and access to time travel himself.  So that could explain why the Time Council don't see it as a big deal.  Or he is alive in that time and has "minions" doing his bidding even in the time council. 

Finally, I think they logically have not planned how to stop Vandal Savage.  They should have gone back in time to the first big advance of Savage's global plan.  A less time they change in the process of stopping Vandal Savage the better.  Then when they fail/or if they fail, they can use the clues they collected to find him even earlier in time...always keeping the element of surprise. 

 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 14, 2016, 12:39:15 AM
I just caught up on the last 2 episodes and some interesting things have happened.

but on the time travel portion, they should go back as far in time as they can to steal that knife, and then leave.
That alone would mean that Vandal Savage couldn't steal the power from Shi'ara and the Hawkguy time after time over time. They can then skip to the moment in the near present closest to when Savage "destroys" the world, and kill him with the knife that was lost in time.

and as far as going back multiple times.... they could just got back a week earlier than last time, and either handle it differently, or manipulate things to work in your favor when "you" show up a week later.

But, I'm shocked Snart took care of Rory, and I'm not sure if he actually killed him or not. Should have dropped him back on in that time he liked w/ all the criminals
I find it funny that some got left behind, and I think Kendra is an idiot for losing the knife again.
They should have bum rushed him in his office. Held him down, injected him w/ meteorite, and then sacrificed him like a goat on the altar w/ that magic knife.
I mean, you know exactly where he was gonna be, knowing good an well that he wouldn't be armed, and you know he would be alone. The only backup he had was that lone police officer. They make this seem so hard when it really shouldn't be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 14, 2016, 09:04:28 AM
The rules of time travel in this show haven't been clearly explained - Even Lost (a show which is known for not explaining things) explicitly said how "the universe will course correct".

But the bigger issue is the show has to stretch this formula out repeatedly to make this work despite having an active time machine to skirt this point. If by breaking them into different timezones we get multiple parallel storylines (think Person of Interest season 1-3) then it will be all the better for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 14, 2016, 12:23:56 PM
Regarding Rory: The most basic rule of all comics No body = Not dead.

(also, the inverse of this is not true.  The presence of a physical body does not rule out clones, alternate dimensions, Superboy punching time or many other things.  Really, no one dies in comics...)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 15, 2016, 01:26:08 AM
Well, I don't assume he is dead. But they explicitly implied it and Snart didn't go out of his way to deny or confirm anything. So I'm sure he'll be back at some point.

But I am certainly interested in what happens next episode, and no, I have not seen a trailer for it.
I'll be surprised by watching it when I get it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 15, 2016, 10:48:05 AM
Regarding Rory: The most basic rule of all comics No body = Not dead.

(also, the inverse of this is not true.  The presence of a physical body does not rule out clones, alternate dimensions, Superboy punching time or many other things.  Really, no one dies in comics...)

Isn't that also the rule of scifi?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on March 15, 2016, 12:02:56 PM
That is a rule for most TV shows in general. Even the non-fantastical dramas can use loop holes to bring back "dead" characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 15, 2016, 11:57:04 PM
ummm.... Red K Supergirl is HAWT AS F**K


attitude and confidence just make a world of difference.
Little bit of  mean streak in her... but damn, the hair, wardrobe and that look just make up for all of it.


edit: it's a damn shame MM had to beat the mean b**ch out of her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 16, 2016, 01:07:03 AM
Is this game Stephen Colbert themed? laaaaame.

edit: wrong thread!

On topic, I should watch an episode of Supergirl some day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 16, 2016, 02:26:45 AM
Nah. I was just trying to find a picture or preferably gif of someone dramatically pointing to a camera and then remembered The Colbert Report openings often had him doing that so I tried searching for something that way and then a saw a couple gifs I thought I could use and went with them and incorporated them.

I probably could do a Colbert Report themed Safe Words but that's not what this game is. It's a bit more generic/free form than that.

Did you not like The Colbert Report?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 16, 2016, 02:29:07 AM
http://www.webm.host/9a255/vid.webm (http://www.webm.host/9a255/vid.webm)

(http://i.imgur.com/UvjshB2.gif)

a couple of clips of Red K Kara
the attitude shift was a huge change in everything about her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 16, 2016, 07:36:56 AM
Things aren't looking goo for Supergirl in NZ as it has been sent to the death spot of 3PM on a Saturday.

Nonoono, I like my Kara sweet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 16, 2016, 05:39:09 PM
I wasn't initially fond of Grant Ward in AOS when the show started - he was so bland and uninteresting. But he's completely turned it around in the past year.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 16, 2016, 06:53:26 PM
Person of Interest finally gets a premiere date and is ending.

May 3rd is when season 5 will start airing and then CBS will burn up 2 episodes a week for a 3 episode season. This is the final season for PoI and has been written as such according to the producers. Almost a whole year has gone by since Season 4. Nice of CBS to really work at killing interest and enthusiasm about the show and showing how much they cared about it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 16, 2016, 07:26:43 PM
Person of Interest finally gets a premiere date and is ending.

May 3rd is when season 5 will start airing and then CBS will burn up 2 episodes a week for a 3 episode season. This is the final season for PoI and has been written as such according to the producers. Almost a whole year has gone by since Season 4. Nice of CBS to really work at killing interest and enthusiasm about the show and showing how much they cared about it.

100% agreed. They've screwed about with the show so much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 16, 2016, 10:20:17 PM
Person of Interest is/was the best drama on CBS. It's a shame, I guess it didn't fit their "senior friendly procedural" formula.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 17, 2016, 01:43:09 AM
Yeah, I'm still boggled over how NCIS continues to be such a ratings juggernaut. I've somehow encountered a couple episodes and it has such terrible writing. I just don't get it.

However, I'm also not going to piss all over CBS. I watch Survivor, The Amazing Race, Elementary, The Price is Right and lately, Late Night with Stephen Colbert. So, they can put out some other products that appeal to me. I watched The Mentalist for many of the years it aired on there. The problem with PoI is that it was of higher caliber and quality than most other CBS shows but it also had a pretty dense mythology that was best experienced watching it from the beginning which makes it harder for new viewers to jump in. Plus, where would it work best on the schedule? They use to air it on Tuesday but that hardly fits with NCIS's quality or stuff like Limitless or Elementary which are more of a similar pattern. Then you've got "comedies" like The Big Bang Theory or Mike and Molly or Two and Half Men. Again, it's not the best way to keep viewers on the channel by following those with PoI. (Although the injustice is that PoI should be increasing viewers wherever it aired on the schedule.) Even the reality shows like Survivor or TAS aren't a great viewing combo. I think the best spot would have been Sunday nights for it but that's now filled up and dominated by The Good Wife and Madam Secretary so they are going anywhere. Despite having seen almost nothing of The Good Wife, I somehow feel PoI may have made a good pairing with it. Unfortunately, it just ended up being on the wrong network with how things developed but at least it got a lot of the production values it deserved by being on a major network.

At the same time, I was a bit disappointed with how things ended on Season 4 particularly in the wrap up of the Elias/Dominic arc and where they've taken Samaritan. The development with The Machine was pretty surprising but it also seems like the plot has backed itself into a big corner as well so it may be the right time to end things. I guess we'll see when Season 5 airs. I may regret this statement but I just don't see what the writers may still have had to sustain it for another full season or two.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 17, 2016, 01:49:31 AM
Ha! I'm listing CBS shows I watch and forgot Supergirl. Shows how much of an impression that series is leaving on my mind.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 17, 2016, 05:02:27 AM
One of the problems with SuperGirl is that she and the show is always switching modes. Cat Co, DEO, Herself, Kryptonian, others from Krypton, SuperGirl self, Sister self. They are all distinct modes she shifts from one minute to the other. It's a massive identity crisis that is never dealt with. It also makes the show really unfocused.

The actress is amazing at switch between them all though.

It's also getting to the point it is easier to name people who don't know who she is. It's like it's the opposite of Superman in a way where almost no one knew who he was. The show also suffers from Superman, but with a girl. It hits all the same plot points even with it's own Lex Luthor.

Khush if you're worried about PoI, well the 5th season is the last and it's going in knowing it is the end. CBS has been real dicks about the show and has intentionally run the last season production into the ground so someone like Netflicks can pick it up. The last season has been ready for months, maybe even up to half a year. So **** CBS for continually torpedoing PoI throughout it's life.

For NCIS me is all about how stupid can an episode get. Computers? Stupid. Real police work? Stupid. Gunfight, especially NCIS LA? Stupid. Killing Brown People and Russians? Stupid. USAUSAUSAUSA? Always. If I do see an episode, I am doing it ironically.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 17, 2016, 06:33:35 AM
The writers had said they had at least a season full of ideas left before they ended it. Given some of the quality of episodes in Season 4 (If Then Else, the simulation episode was the single best hour of TV i've seen in a very long time) i believe they did too.

A lot of viewers tuned out when Carter left the show, and that was the point when the procedural aspects began to take a step back to the mythology of the series (with its associated tumble in ratings).

The problem with POI isnt the show itself, but that the show is not produced by CBS. The 13 episode order was only to get it over the line to 100 episodes for syndication so CBS can make some money back. Where they dump the show itself now doesn't matter. The same thing happened with Fringe in Season 5 too (although Fox actually treated the show significantly better leaving it in its Friday timeslot where it actually was very stable ratings-wise, to the end) and even The Mentalist where with the same production company as POI (Warner Bros) selling the show to CBS, and burned it off in the same way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 17, 2016, 06:57:01 AM
I started rewatching The Genius last week, starting from first season (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9suu7e7YWZ0rw06g9_cOi_cnzpeXeUCc).


So good. By far the smartest game show i saw and the only reality TV worth spending time on. And it's only gets better on rewatching.

Thank you so much for pointing me to this show.  Living in Korea the show has more meaning to me, and I understand it.  This type of reality TV/game show is actually quite popular here, but this one is very clever.  After just one episode I am hooked.  It is really the social and relational aspects of the show that make it work...and Korean culture really capitalizes on that aspect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 17, 2016, 03:26:38 PM
ummm.... Red K Supergirl is HAWT AS F**K


attitude and confidence just make a world of difference.
Little bit of  mean streak in her... but damn, the hair, wardrobe and that look just make up for all of it.


edit: it's a damn shame MM had to beat the mean b**ch out of her.

I thought this was by far the best episode of the season.  She did a fantastic job  But I think the biggest thing I enjoyed was the fact that there were no "facepalm" moments like there usually are.  It was a pleasant change and one that hopefully persists though I won't hold my breath.

But the cherry on top was finally seeing J'onn cut loose.  Although my knowledge of comic lore is limited I thought that Martian Manhunter was on par with Supes when it comes to power.  He's always been gimped in the show and got his butt handed to him by Astra.  Was barely a fight.   Hopefully now that he's come out Alex (Or Sam Lane) will take the reigns at the DEO and J'onn will work with Kara.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 17, 2016, 09:20:29 PM
I face-palmed during the montage of Cat giving her speech not to trust Supergirl and National City citizen's immediate response to the speech. Throwing away they home made uniform and the firefighters taking down the Supergirl banner. If Cat Grant says we have to do this, I guess we have to do it. National City only listens to her.

What exactly did Supergirl do that was so evil? She let an alien villain escape a bit longer but the citizens wouldn't know since the DEO keeps alien existence under wraps or tries to. Not sure if the White Martian appearance a few episodes back was public enough to dispel that idea. She dropped Cat Grant from a building though no one would have seen that. Just Supergirl rescuing her before she died and then exchanging some harsh words with her. It's Cat Grant's word that Supergirl did drop her. She angrily flicked some peanuts in a bar. The whole thing could be viewed as just a feud between Supergirl and Cat Grant. I can't recall what she was doing at the time the DEO attacked her but even then, you have these mysterious people attacking Supergirl and one of them suddenly becomes an alien attacking Supergirl. I'd be more concerned about that group being evil than Supergirl if I was a citizen without the facts we as viewers have. So, the whole overwrought drama of losing the entire city's trust and then needing to start over again with winning them back rang false to me. I don't believe it is the big hill the show wants to make it out to be.

It was good to see J'onn prove to be Kara's equal in a fight. Shorty is right that MM is supposed to be on par with Superman and maybe even more powerful thanks to his telepathic abilities allowing him to also attack Superman's mind.

I did find it interesting that Kara began to resemble Astra near the end. It might have been a missed opportunity to have her join up with Non's group for awhile to really create a sense of villainy while letting her learn more about Non's plot so that when she is cured of the red kryptonite, they have more information to battle Non with.

I do love Red Kryptonite stories though. Even on Smallville, they would make for fun episodes. At least Clark robbed some banks on that show and really did become villainous. I also love the cheesiness in how they would make Clark a bad boy with him wearing a leather jacket, shades and driving a motorcycle. Superman has become the Fonz. He's evil. In Kara's case, it makes her a competent and confident employee with an arrogant streak. The choices they make to sure the hero as villain are sometimes borderline laughable but they get a pass from me because they are fun. It's like emo-Peter Parker that everyone complained about in Spiderman 3. That stuff never bothered me like some fans because it's just sort of fun enough for my sensibilities.

Watching the episode, though, did make me wonder what would happen if Non or another Kryptonian villain were exposed to red kryptonite. I can't recall of a time its ever happened. If red Kryptonite makes Superman/girl/boy/woman evil, would it make them good? What change or effect would it have on their mental state? Maybe Maxwell Lord has the solution to the Kryptonian problem after all....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 17, 2016, 09:45:36 PM
The writers had said they had at least a season full of ideas left before they ended it. Given some of the quality of episodes in Season 4 (If Then Else, the simulation episode was the single best hour of TV i've seen in a very long time) i believe they did too.

A lot of viewers tuned out when Carter left the show, and that was the point when the procedural aspects began to take a step back to the mythology of the series (with its associated tumble in ratings).

The problem with POI isnt the show itself, but that the show is not produced by CBS. The 13 episode order was only to get it over the line to 100 episodes for syndication so CBS can make some money back. Where they dump the show itself now doesn't matter. The same thing happened with Fringe in Season 5 too (although Fox actually treated the show significantly better leaving it in its Friday timeslot where it actually was very stable ratings-wise, to the end) and even The Mentalist where with the same production company as POI (Warner Bros) selling the show to CBS, and burned it off in the same way.

I also liked If Then Else a lot myself. But it was also at that point, that I thought the show began to stop moving forward and instead just hold in a circling pattern before a so-so ending. The first half of Season 4 was as strong as the show ever was but after the loss/kidnapping of Shaw, it developed an uneven momentum and the overall story seemed to lose focus. So if the writers did have these ideas, I wish we could have seen more evidence of them in that back half. Although, I am willing to allow for the fact that Sarah Shahi's (aka Shaw) pregnancy and subsequent absence from the show may have contributed to this loss of momentum as they waited for her maternity leave to finish up so that they could bring her back into the fold. I think the writers have said it was part of the plan but I question that. Shahi and others made comments that she really was dead and gone at the end of If Then Else in order to keep the viewers guessing so you can't always trust everything the cast and crew may give on things.

 I don't think the loss of Carter is necessarily the main reason for the show to lose its procedural aspects but allowing Samaritan to take over made it much harder for the team to operate and do weekly cases/rescues even with Reese's new job. That really changed the dynamic and how the characters could operate.

Also, I thought syndication depended on a show either hitting 100 episodes or making 4 full seasons which PoI met at the end of last season obviously. I've finally seen some other channels start to play reruns of the show so I'm thinking it must be in syndication now unless just filming season 5 episodes to get to 100 without releasing them allowed the to meet syndication that way after all.

However, in the case of The Mentalist, it had already been in syndication and passed the 100 episode mark before its 7th and final season began. It also played out one episode at a time for about 13 weeks in its normal (at that point in its life) Sunday timeslot. This is more like the Parks and Recreation final season that had NBC playing two episodes a night of it on Tuesdays for a little over a month in February - March to burn off the final season to get it done with and move on to other shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2016, 11:37:25 AM
Just finished Daredevil Ep3

Wow. that stairwell fight scene, was pretty badass. The whole scene between Frank and Matt up on the roof was good too. Foggy has been useful and so has Karen. I also love the fact that "Nite Nurse" references Luke Cage, and that whole incident being the reason she is stuck on slave labor shift.

I also just started ep4 and **** is about to go down.

[edit - just past halfway through ep4 and OMG. The Punisher is F'n Crazy. LOL. savage beast.]

Not to mention I watched the Luke Cage teaser (which supposedly airs at like a post credits teaser at the end of DD S2) and I'm hyped for that show.
http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=43091.msg892045#msg892045 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=43091.msg892045#msg892045)
^follow the link to check it out for yourself
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on March 20, 2016, 12:11:53 PM
I started rewatching The Genius last week, starting from first season (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9suu7e7YWZ0rw06g9_cOi_cnzpeXeUCc).


So good. By far the smartest game show i saw and the only reality TV worth spending time on. And it's only gets better on rewatching.
Thank you so much for pointing me to this show.  Living in Korea the show has more meaning to me, and I understand it.  This type of reality TV/game show is actually quite popular here, but this one is very clever.  After just one episode I am hooked.  It is really the social and relational aspects of the show that make it work...and Korean culture really capitalizes on that aspect.
Sure, i am glad to spread the love for this show.

And if you liked the first episode -- oh boy oh boy oh boy -- you're gonna have some mind blowing four seasons ahead of you, because twist at the end of first episode is mere peanuts compared to complexity and game depth that further seasons bring.

If you care to discuss the show PM me, we can skype or smth.

There is also specialized reddit that collects all Genius related links:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGenius/

And not one but two separate podcasts about the show: Dom and Colin (http://domandcolin.blogspot.com/2015/07/why-everyone-should-watch-genius.html) and Geniuscast (http://geniuscast.podbean.com/).

Welcome and have fun.

Just finished Daredevil Ep3
The fight is kinda inspired by Tony Jaa's famous stairs fight oner:
only Daredevil did it with multiple takes glued seemlessly together
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2016, 12:28:13 PM
I noticed that while they did several long takes, they used the darkeness and closeups to mask the scene splicing. because that would have taken forever to get all in 1 shot in the way they wanted it.

It turned out well and I was impressed. Netflix and Marvel make a good pairing, and I'm hoping the improvements on Netflix "Phase 2"continue w/ the rest of this season of DD and into Luke Cage as well.


edit: just watched that Tony Jaa video... and I'm glad DD was only "inspired" by that scene.
It's no wonder Jaa has fallen of the face of the map. While he has potential to be incredible as seen in his earliest movie I can't remember the name of, the choreography in this was TERRIBLE. the stunts are cool, but everything seems so... scripted, rehearsed, timed and setup. Nothing about that fight was organic in the way it played out. Tony Jaa needs to get with the guys from The Raid and script out something crazy for him. His first big movie was awesome and made me a fan... everything after that was just downhill from there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 20, 2016, 01:41:31 PM
For some reason this moment had me LOL for real

(http://i.imgur.com/T4ux5nx.jpg)

[Bartender] "One of life's mysteries"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on March 20, 2016, 09:32:49 PM
BnM. I know what your saying and I thought that too (while still enjoying it), but the best scene in that movie is right after. He faces a room full of dudes and makes it his mission to break everyone's bones. It's incredible. He breaks like 100 bones in 10 minutes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 21, 2016, 02:58:40 AM
The Punisher Daredevil Ep8/9 - Holy ****....

I'm not gonna spoil anything, but I do want to say that if you in any way liked S1 of DD, then this is Netflix's best Marvel offering by far so far. I'm at a point where something happened that I didn't see coming until it was already in the process of happening, and it honestly didn't even cross my mind as there was just so much going on already.
The Punisher has been amazing in this series so far (Bernthal was a very good choice BTW), and I would be so down for him to spin off on his own series... maybe fire up that Midnight sons speculation that was going around. Marvel Knights or something...

I need to not go into the next episode right now because the Netflix Binge Effect has already taken over my night and I need to get up early and go to work in the morning. [edit-**** this show... I really need to go to sleep but it won't let me stop starting the next episode... I'm already on 11 and it's 1am] But i must know what happens next. I can only imagine what would be if Marvel did the ENTIRE MCU in this format all dropped on Netflix for consume at your leisure pacing.

BTW, when does that entire Disney Catalog on Netflix deal actually go into effect?
I know it was supposed to happen in 2016, but their Disney offerings on Netflix streaming are still quite slim at the moment.

[edit 2 - HOLY **** @ The Punisher. my gawd Frank Castle.... my gawd. LOL]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 21, 2016, 05:40:59 AM
Daredevil Season 2
Still Marvel's best TV show. There was some stunted dialog as well as some sections that could have been edited down (which tends to happen regularly on Netflix shows). I'd say editing in general was the season's weak point. There are times when scenes change and it seems like a lot more time passes when it cuts back yet the characters are still talking about the same thing. Maybe I'm nitpicking.

I was a bit disappointed in the latter half of The Punisher's plot line. I felt that it fizzled out despite such a strong start and an awesome performance by Jon Bernthal. I remember when Marvel announced Bernthal being cast. He never crossed my mind to cast as The Punisher, but I remember being on board with it. He's definitely the best new addition to the series. Elodie Yung was fine as Elektra. I don't particularly like the character, and there were moments I just said, "Shut up, Elektra. Stop ruining everything." I like that the show at least acknowledged in passing that Karen keeps somehow ending up wherever bad things happen. No explanation (other than "Deborah Ann Woll is in the main cast"), but it's mentioned.

There are some references to Luke Cage and Jessica Jones as well as other references to the larger MCU though there really needs to be some crossover for this to feel like a more connected universe. When The Hand dug a giant hole in the middle of Hell's Kitchen, that seems exactly like something Coulson and SHIELD should be investigating. Something awesome happened mid-way through the season that I was hoping would happen. I'm glad Marvel didn't announce it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 21, 2016, 10:33:48 AM
Something awesome happened mid-way through the season that I was hoping would happen. I'm glad Marvel didn't announce it.

I'll assume your talking about the same thing I was, and I wasn't even thinking about it because I had heard ur wasn't gonna happen... But then something just told me it was about to happen just before it was happening, and what followed was pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on March 21, 2016, 04:44:49 PM

I enjoyed it overall.  There were quite a few "look away" moments for me because I hate gore but it was a good way to kill a day. 


Action scenes were top notch as expected (Arrow universe writers please take note!!!) and the characters were great for the most part.  Foggy's whining did annoy me to an extent but considering what Matt was doing to him I can't really fault him for it because I'd probably be complaining too.  Elektra was hit or miss.  Granted I'm not familiar with much Daredevil lore but I found her annoying.  I still prefer Jennifer Garner as Elektra, but that said I prefer Jennifer Garner :D.


I was disappointed by the ending battle though.  I was hoping Punisher would be more involved.  He had a minigun for goodness sake.  That would have been an epic entrance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 21, 2016, 09:00:24 PM
The problem with Tony Jaa is that he is an atrocious actor.He might be able to fight his way out of a steel box, but he can't act his way out of a soggy paper bag. That's why he dropped off the map, the fights alone wasn't enough to sustain the sequels. Really bad writing didn't help either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 23, 2016, 06:39:40 AM
I know Khush says Supergirl is crashing and burning, but of all the on-air shows from the same production company (Legends, Arrow, Supergirl, Flash and Blindspot), Blindspot is ridiculously terrible and not even trying to stick to reality.

There was an episode a few weeks ago where a stolen passenger plane was going to fire a missile at a neighbouring country. Even though the plane had a maximum height of a 45,000 feet the unmodified plane continued climbing well above 50,000 because its target height was 60,000 to fire the missile. There's been several real-life incidents where planes have gone above their "ceiling", the engines lock up and fail to restart and crashes. In the show to get the plane on the ground they pointed the plane *directly at the ground* and held it there and then pulled up about 5 seconds hitting the ground. No damage to the plane apart from a slightly bumpy landing.

This week's episode said "an encrypted email" was received inside the FBI and "they used a VPN to hide where it came from" and noticed it came from the arctic. For emails to be encrypted it has to be readable on both sides (so it's not really encrypted was it?) so sender/recipient can read it - and that's not even counting for two of the cast members having almost no development at all 14 episodes in one is blackmailed twice and has "problems", the other up to recently had literally nothing.

Never mind the main male character being angry all. the. time.

This show is a trainwreck and Supergirl at least has the potential of getting itself together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 23, 2016, 08:35:23 AM
Supergirl needs to spend less time in DEO HQ as it looks tacky as hell. The Nuke Missile ending was pretty meh, would have been **** loads cooler if she took it into space.

I caught bits and pieces of flash and dear me, it is cheesy in a bad way. If you're going to chew scenery, do it right and with vigour.

We got Blindspot and I have no idea what it is about until you mentioned it. The hell is it with the tattoos? is it some script bout the future? why the naked laser scan? Who is she and do I care?

Wait did they even try to wind restart the turbines? No way they did that landing as even if you pulled up in time the sheer speed you are going in will either rip your landing gear off mind air, blow the tires, overrun the runway, cause the plane to disintegrate either by G forces or exceeding it's Never Exceed airspeed well before impact or from making a **** landing because you're going way too fast.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 23, 2016, 01:52:57 PM
I know Khush says Supergirl is crashing and burning, but of all the on-air shows from the same production company (Legends, Arrow, Supergirl, Flash and Blindspot), Blindspot is ridiculously terrible and not even trying to stick to reality.

This show is a trainwreck and Supergirl at least has the potential of getting itself together.

Yeah, never bothered with watching anything from Blindspot so I'm unable to compare the two at this point. However, I will also state that since my comment, the next two episodes of Supergirl were better. They still have had dumb moments that stick out to me but nothing that's made me want to just write off the show like the point I was at a few episodes back and it's had some good and fun moments as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 23, 2016, 03:04:43 PM
Finally finished the final episode of the final season of Downton Abbey.
All in all, a good series. We made a point of watching on Blu Ray. This type of show is such a lush, beautiful show I felt it was worth it. Production value is high.
The final episode was a reasonably satisfying conclusion. Tied up pretty much everyone's stories so good on them for that. I was only mildly disappointed that my hoped-for scenario did not occur, that being:
I hoped the whole cast would choose to go on a transatlantic journey for some trumped-up reason and they would all die in a tragic sinking, thus mirroring the Crawley family deaths that occurred aboard the Titanic that kicked off the series in the first place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 23, 2016, 04:49:18 PM
Supergirl needs to spend less time in DEO HQ as it looks tacky as hell. The Nuke Missile ending was pretty meh, would have been **** loads cooler if she took it into space.

I caught bits and pieces of flash and dear me, it is cheesy in a bad way. If you're going to chew scenery, do it right and with vigour.

We got Blindspot and I have no idea what it is about until you mentioned it. The hell is it with the tattoos? is it some script bout the future? why the naked laser scan? Who is she and do I care?

Wait did they even try to wind restart the turbines? No way they did that landing as even if you pulled up in time the sheer speed you are going in will either rip your landing gear off mind air, blow the tires, overrun the runway, cause the plane to disintegrate either by G forces or exceeding it's Never Exceed airspeed well before impact or from making a **** landing because you're going way too fast.

Flash is cheesy but it knows it and runs with it with joy, so i'll let it slide.

About the Blindspot tattoos.... not a clue. It hasn't been explained yet, yet they seem to be coincidentally tracking some terrorist activity almost exactly as it happens.

About that plane episode (its ep 11): to stop the plane climbing to 60,000 feet they manually turned the engines off at 57,000 feet and pointed the plane at the ground at a probably 45 degree angle and extending the landing gear at the last second, and pulling up with about 5 seconds notice. No mention of the landing gear, or the turbines. Just "brakes!".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 23, 2016, 07:18:01 PM
LOLWUT? Yeah from that picture their approach was too high no matter what. 45 Degrees is massive dive for an airliner where anything exceeding 15% down is considered a dive so their definitely hitting Never exceed speeds and break up. Why did they turn the engines off in the first place? Were they afraid they were going to run out of air or some idiot "Hacked" the flight deck? Never turn off the engines unless they are on fire. You will lose electrical power and the bleed air from the engines that pressurises the cabin air. The batteries will hold for a while along with the air, but now the controls are less responsive.

I have exceed 45 degrees myself, but even at 45 degrees or below, I was going to hit Never Exceed speed.

But yeah, everyone on that plane should be dead multiple times over. I am sure a video will come out eventually so I can point and laugh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2016, 03:51:29 AM
Man... that Bar Scene at the end of the latest AoS episode.

(http://i.imgur.com/zuM9jWA.gif)

I was only partially paying attention at the time, and the scene still caught me off guard.

so many onions cut...
(http://i.imgur.com/Tfwl2ga.gif)

but that just means that Most Wanted has officially been setup. Logo revealed and all.
http://mcuexchange.com/marvels-most-wanted-logo-revealed-oded-fehr-and-fernanda-andrade-join-cast/ (http://mcuexchange.com/marvels-most-wanted-logo-revealed-oded-fehr-and-fernanda-andrade-join-cast/)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 24, 2016, 04:26:43 AM
LOLWUT?Why did they turn the engines off in the first place?

Because the plane was still climbing; it was at 57,000 feet and the missile would fire at 60,000 (completely ignoring the service ceiling is 45!) and were locked out of the cockpit so they manually shut down the engines from the avionics bay to get the terrorists out of the cockpit to gain control of the plane.

Read this for some more: https://tvfails.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/airplane/ (https://tvfails.wordpress.com/2016/03/03/airplane/)

There's TONS more fuckups even i missed. Including the one that its an MD80 which can't fly from the USA to Turkey.

Agents of Shield has completely and utterly turned itself around, although i'm concerned that losing those two to their own spinoff may mean the parent show loses out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 24, 2016, 05:33:19 AM
The service ceiling is worse. It's actually at 37,000ft. The absolute ceiling is higher, but I can't find the number as it is likely it wasn't tested out of safety concerns. Absolute ceiling is the height it can theoretically go. You can go above the service ceiling but things get dangerous as you continue to go up as your stall speed gets ever closer to your current airspeed. At Absolute ceiling you will stall at the slightest disturbance. It also takes near forever to get higher than the service ceiling. IIRC the service ceiling is defined by a climb rate of less than 100ft - 50ft per minute at maximum continuous thrust.

They should have just let them fire the missile as it would have done jack ****. There is a reason rockets are big. That thing isn't big enough to reach GPS even if it launched off a SR-71. It would be lucky to reach even the start of "Space" let alone LEO.

Satellite killers can be launched of a F15c, but even one of those only reach LEO.

That is a mega dumb episode of anything.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 26, 2016, 01:30:22 AM
Just saw the Red Krytonite episode. Finally an episode that matters. It became brilliant when it did the Superman 3 bar scene sans the hard drinking. She was such a jerkass albeit a stupid one. Supergirl is properly vulnerable for once.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 28, 2016, 01:55:41 AM
Finally finished the final episode of the final season of Downton Abbey.
All in all, a good series. We made a point of watching on Blu Ray. This type of show is such a lush, beautiful show I felt it was worth it. Production value is high.
The final episode was a reasonably satisfying conclusion. Tied up pretty much everyone's stories so good on them for that. I was only mildly disappointed that my hoped-for scenario did not occur, that being:
I hoped the whole cast would choose to go on a transatlantic journey for some trumped-up reason and they would all die in a tragic sinking, thus mirroring the Crawley family deaths that occurred aboard the Titanic that kicked off the series in the first place.

You're fictional(?) spoiler inspired me. Here's the ending you wanted:


(https://openpractice32.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/im-on-a-boat.gif)


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/boat2_zpsfyugjprl.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/xCVHlDm.gif)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/boat3_zpstwkh0huq.png)


The End.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 28, 2016, 10:23:25 PM
"Hi, I've never heard of you.  Let me take my mask off and reveal my secret identity to you."
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2016, 11:27:22 PM
"Hi, I've never heard of you.  Let me take my mask off and reveal my secret identity to you."

Is this a game of guess that TV show!!?

I haven't seen anything that came on tonight...
so it's gotta be between Gotham and Supergirl.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 28, 2016, 11:38:55 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 29, 2016, 03:35:14 AM
Ahhh. if you read my previous post before I edited it, you would have seen I mentioned The Flash as a possibility, but then I realized that The Flash comes on on Tuesdays....

what I had also forgotten was that The Flash cameo's on Supergirl tonite, so I was kinda right in my initial guess, and the obvious "it has to be Supergirl" guess I didn't actually include in the previous post because I couldn't think of who would have a mask on the show....

But yeah... it had to happen because CBS viewers may not even know The CW exist.
I can over look it as long as the rest of the episode is good, even if it's cheesy as the following scene after that reveal (I'm still watching the show as I type - currently paused.)


edit: and O.M.G. is the next scene SUPER CHEESY LOL.
Kara basically turns into a giddy little girl for Barry and Jimmy gets sooooo damn jealous.
so cheesy it was actually kinda funny.

edit 2:
the scene in Kat Grants office right after that is gold.

Barry: "speaking was the wrong choice, I see that now" (sounds like something Cisco would say)

Kat: "All 4 of you standing there doing nothing. You look like the Attractive, yet Non threatening racially diverse cast of a CW show" LMAO

oh, I hope the rest of the episode carries on at this level.

edit 3: and then the Trench Coat flasher comment followed by the Smallville reference of "The Blur" so far sogood.

edit 4: Bara .... Karry.... SuperFlash... FlasherGirl... hmm... I'll keep working on that
but I'll be damned if they aren't just adorable together. Baricity who?
Barry can tap that will all the SpeedForce and Kara is Super enough to handle it.

edit 5:
Barry: why don't you step away from the nice lady... then we can settle this like women.
::Kara looks at Barry awkwardly::
Barry: "What... there more of you guys here than me.

they are having too much fun this episode.
but that TV budget... sometimes it pulls you out of the moment.

edit 6
Hopefully at some point Supergirl Crosses over to the DCWverse. I think she would fit in w/ that group just as well as Barry fit in w/ hers.


and tell me no one in here would want a BatArrowman v Supermangirl 2 part DCWverse crossover.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 29, 2016, 11:01:19 AM
Yeah, it was a good episode.  A few minor gripes, but not on the level of Batman v Superman. ;)

Yeah, that TV show budget.  Silver Banshee looked ridiculous.  Although, to be fair, she looks a lot like her comic counterpart.

If Banshee can scream loud enough that she pushes Kara through a wall... what the heck are ear plugs going to do for that?

Banshee punched Supergirl and knocked her on her ass.  When did Banshee get super-strength?  People have broken every bone in their hand punching Superman...


See?  I can complain about the show, but still like it. ;)

I am disappointed that they established Supergirl to be on a different Earth than Flash/Arrow.  It seems like that'll be a limit to how often they have crossover episodes.  I mean, I know the writers will always be able to create some reason for crossing them over... but they seem so far apart now. :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 29, 2016, 05:26:04 PM
If Stargate SG1 and Stargate Atlantis got around that problem by creating a "gate bridge" that reduces the time between galaxies (spin-offs) from 3 weeks to 35 minutes a similar thing created by Cisco/Star Labs can be created between the Supergirl universe and the Arrowverse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 29, 2016, 07:35:59 PM
It did kinda sound like her metaphor to Jimmy kinda had dual meaning as a hint towards the bridging of the shows.

The crossover was such a fun, delicious and cheesy serving of budget heroism, that I would love to see this happen more often. The Chemistry between Kara, Barry and Winn was just so warm and enjoyable... like they weren't just pretending to have fun, but actually were. I mean they were all just so giddy all the time on screen together, you couldn't help but smile.
I would love for the them to meet Cisco and crew.

actually, I want to see Ollie and Diggle meet Martian Manhunter.
Diggle's reaction would probably cause the show to go into an immediate extended commercial break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 29, 2016, 09:06:42 PM
I imagine CBS dropping Supergirl and CW picking it up.  Then, we have a Crisis on Infinite networks to merge them all into one universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 29, 2016, 09:50:22 PM
They need to use Legends of Tomorrow, Arrow, and the Flash to lead into a Justice Society (Since League will not be allowed) TV series. 

Legends of Tomorrow season 2 (already confirmed) could be half about time travel and then second half of the season could turn the show into a Justice Society Show.  Then if Supergirl is cancelled just keep the actress and bring her into the CW DC universe
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on March 30, 2016, 12:30:20 AM
Apparently Moonscoop has decided it has nothing better to do with the now 10+ year old series "Code Lyoko" and decided to start officially releasing episodes on YouTube.

I should add that Code Lyoko is actually really darn good, especially after the overly formulaic first season when it becomes somewhat more narrative driven and when Aelita practically becomes the main character.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 31, 2016, 12:12:25 AM
I just finished episode 10 of Daredevil season 2...god damn this show is great.
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Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2016, 02:18:01 AM
I just finished episode 10 of Daredevil season 2...god damn this show is great.


Finished the whole season and loved every minute of it. Some people are complaining about how the middle of the season dragged but really, I never felt that. Every episode felt relevant and entertaining.


Makes me really hope for a S3 soon, bit sadly we might have to wait longer than a year. Netflix MCU is currently limited to 2 seasons a year and with JJ S2, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, and Defenders all on the docket we may not see a DD S3 for a good while unless they ramp up production.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 31, 2016, 04:01:05 AM
yeah, they need to ramp up to 3 shows a year like the movies are bumping up to 3 year.

Besides they need to make room for that Punisher mini-series and Midnight Sons spin-offs as well.
Moon Knight and Blade, maybe a Cloak and Dagger.

DD S3 needs to happen sooner rather than later though.
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Post by: Fatty The Hutt on March 31, 2016, 11:32:24 AM
Finally finished the final episode of the final season of Downton Abbey.
All in all, a good series. We made a point of watching on Blu Ray. This type of show is such a lush, beautiful show I felt it was worth it. Production value is high.
The final episode was a reasonably satisfying conclusion. Tied up pretty much everyone's stories so good on them for that. I was only mildly disappointed that my hoped-for scenario did not occur, that being:
I hoped the whole cast would choose to go on a transatlantic journey for some trumped-up reason and they would all die in a tragic sinking, thus mirroring the Crawley family deaths that occurred aboard the Titanic that kicked off the series in the first place.

You're fictional(?) spoiler inspired me. Here's the ending you wanted:


(https://openpractice32.files.wordpress.com/2015/06/im-on-a-boat.gif)


(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/boat2_zpsfyugjprl.jpg)


(https://i.imgur.com/xCVHlDm.gif)
(http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d95/TKush/NWR/boat3_zpstwkh0huq.png)


The End.
Brilliant! Now my viewing experience feels complete.
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Post by: Plugabugz on March 31, 2016, 05:48:33 PM
yeah, they need to ramp up to 3 shows a year like the movies are bumping up to 3 year.

Besides they need to make room for that Punisher mini-series and Midnight Sons spin-offs as well.
Moon Knight and Blade, maybe a Cloak and Dagger.

DD S3 needs to happen sooner rather than later though.

What about Amazon MCU? (they likely wouldnt do that... but....)

Also, i think Arrow needs to drop the flashbacks now. Even though this week's episode was great.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 12, 2016, 06:30:09 PM
Oh, Supergirl writers...

Myriad was designed on Krypton for use on the people of Krypton.

It was being used against the humans on Earth.

It worked against Superman because... he was raised on Earth... or something.

It doesn't work against Supergirl because she's Kryptonion.  Even though it was designed to be used on Kryptonions.

This makes no sense to me.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 12, 2016, 09:43:50 PM
Oh, Supergirl writers...

Myriad was designed on Krypton for use on the people of Krypton.

It was being used against the humans on Earth.

It worked against Superman because... he was raised on Earth... or something.

It doesn't work against Supergirl because she's Kryptonion.  Even though it was designed to be used on Kryptonions.

This makes no sense to me.


Ok. I'm glad I wasn't the only one that caught that... but I decided to overlook it, mostly because I was only half watching anyway.
I wasn't sure if I missed something where they said they calibrated it to Earthlings or not, so I didn't make a stink about it.
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Post by: Khushrenada on April 13, 2016, 12:57:25 AM
Frankly, I could never tell if it was supposed to be daytime or nighttime when watching the show. The lighting seemed to keep changing so frequently between scenes and kept interrupting my suspension of disbelief.
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Post by: oohhboy on April 14, 2016, 08:32:42 AM
Saw the Flash/Supergirl cross over episode and it had a lot of gold. On fire? no problem! Who needs secret identities? Lets pose in front of Cat Grant. Thrown out a window? Who what Who? I WAS RESCUED! LOL aborted kiss. Ice cream!
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Post by: Stogi on April 16, 2016, 02:54:28 PM
So I'm late to the train, but I'm watching POI season 4 and it's better than every drama series I have seen in the past year. And yes, I do mean every drama series; game of thrones included.

Everything is so tightly managed. There isn't a lose thread or even line in this season so far. Everything moves with pitch perfect accuracy. Actions have consequences, and motives make actions. It's suspenseful, funny, sexy, philosophical and bad ass.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 20, 2016, 12:38:45 AM
Agent of SHIELD

Coulson: "I've met gods. Gods bleed"

the entire audience:
(http://i.imgur.com/XS5LK.gif)

Edit:
(http://i.imgur.com/UAIEL0a.gif)
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Post by: UncleBob on April 21, 2016, 11:31:22 PM
DAMNIT LEGENDS.

Rip: "You shouldn't be involved in your own abductions.  Timeline paradoxes and all.  Ignore the fact that Sarah was *JUST* involved in her's and has been interacting with her past self for this entire episode."

Stop.  Just stop.
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Post by: Plugabugz on April 22, 2016, 03:24:06 AM
So I'm late to the train, but I'm watching POI season 4 and it's better than every drama series I have seen in the past year. And yes, I do mean every drama series; game of thrones included.

Everything is so tightly managed. There isn't a lose thread or even line in this season so far. Everything moves with pitch perfect accuracy. Actions have consequences, and motives make actions. It's suspenseful, funny, sexy, philosophical and bad ass.

There is one huge completely unavoidable point where they were forced to course-correct, which Khush noticed too, with how Sarah Shahi's pregnancy forced her to be used less in the show and then ultimately dropped out. That meant the big showdown between her and Dominic never happens and had to change things post her departure to account for her absence


But that said, this is Jonathan Nolan's first TV show and if this is the quality he produces (he even proves he's a very good director with the season 2 episode "Relevance" which introduces Shaw) then we are in for a real treat with his HBO-produced Westworld.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 22, 2016, 06:00:43 AM
He's also involved with HBO's adaptation of Foundation, which I'm extremely excited for.
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Post by: Stratos on April 22, 2016, 09:20:01 PM
HBO is doing Foundation? As in Asimov's Foundation and Robots/Empire series? If they pull this off right it could be their Sci-fi equivalent of Game of Thrones. I'll keep an eye on it.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 22, 2016, 10:36:58 PM
A review clip from this weeks Agents of SHIELD


Total MCU canon BTW. pretty sure it was an LMD...
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Post by: oohhboy on April 24, 2016, 03:14:11 AM
Season final of Supergirl.

They introduce plot holes trying to explain things like Supergirl's powers. I now see why they dealt with the nuclear missile as they as they wanted to save if for this. I do find a somewhat twisted pleasure as to how they write out Superman's intervention. Oh look there he is! Where? Over there! *NOPE*.

I am starting to watch it less for Supergirl than for the dumb fun stuff Klara does like running in screaming I got rescued or generally acting awkward, weird or overly enthusiastic.
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Post by: Plugabugz on April 24, 2016, 06:14:39 AM
Season final of Supergirl.

They introduce plot holes trying to explain things like Supergirl's powers. I now see why they dealt with the nuclear missile as they as they wanted to save if for this. I do find a somewhat twisted pleasure as to how they write out Superman's intervention. Oh look there he is! Where? Over there! *NOPE*.

I am starting to watch it less for Supergirl than for the dumb fun stuff Klara does like running in screaming I got rescued or generally acting awkward, weird or overly enthusiastic.

Supergirl cant survive in space yet in the previous episode Superman can't help because he's "off world". Right.
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Post by: oohhboy on April 24, 2016, 09:15:35 AM
It's not just that she can't survive in space because breathing, apparently she need gravity to generate "Thrust".
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Post by: UncleBob on April 24, 2016, 09:44:30 AM
Season final of Supergirl.

They introduce plot holes trying to explain things like Supergirl's powers. I now see why they dealt with the nuclear missile as they as they wanted to save if for this. I do find a somewhat twisted pleasure as to how they write out Superman's intervention. Oh look there he is! Where? Over there! *NOPE*.

I am starting to watch it less for Supergirl than for the dumb fun stuff Klara does like running in screaming I got rescued or generally acting awkward, weird or overly enthusiastic.

Supergirl cant survive in space yet in the previous episode Superman can't help because he's "off world". Right.
To be fair...
(http://s12.postimg.org/tlk7g0359/lotas.jpg)
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Post by: Plugabugz on April 25, 2016, 04:56:57 PM
DAMNIT LEGENDS.

Rip: "You shouldn't be involved in your own abductions.  Timeline paradoxes and all.  Ignore the fact that Sarah was *JUST* involved in her's and has been interacting with her past self for this entire episode."

Stop.  Just stop.

And how Rip has been saying "don't interfere with your own timeline" and then at the end contradicts itself to say to Jax "maybe time wants you back together".

This show needs some consistency and quickly.
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Post by: UncleBob on April 25, 2016, 05:03:06 PM
And, going back to pull your own childhood self to stab someone in the future...
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Post by: oohhboy on April 25, 2016, 05:24:53 PM
POI's Final season schedule.

5x01: B.S.O.D. // May 3rd
 5x02: SNAFU // May 9th
 5x03: Truth be Told // May 10th
 5x04: 6,741 // May 16th
 5x05: ShotSeeker // May 17th
 5x06: A More Perfect Union // May 23rd
 5x07: QSO // May 24th
 5x08: Reassortment // May 24th
 5x09: Sotto Voce // May 30th
 5x10: The Day the World Went Away // May 31st *100th Episode!*
 5x11: Synecdoche // June 7th
 5x12: .exe // June 14th
 5x13: Return 0 // June 21st *SERIES FINALE*
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on April 25, 2016, 10:31:01 PM
So Fear the Walking Dead finally started to get good and coincidentally, Game of Thrones is back.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 01, 2016, 09:57:37 PM
Game of Thrones - spoiler - Jon Snow is back/10
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2016, 01:18:23 AM
Game of Thrones - spoiler - Jon Snow is back/10

We all knew it was happening. Glad we were all right. Do you remember this pic (http://i.imgur.com/Ez1XgJH.jpg)that was circulated probably hours after the previous season finale?
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 02, 2016, 10:38:05 AM
Yeah but that is fake. And sure, everyone knew it was gonna happen, but everyone is still glad it happened. Even aside from that, hell of an episode. This season has been pretty intense.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 02, 2016, 06:17:30 PM
Ramsey(?) is an asshole of the lowest magnitude. That is all I will say.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 03, 2016, 06:59:30 PM
Yeah, he's basically the biggest piece of **** to ever appear on TV. He makes Joffrey look like a saint.
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Post by: Stogi on May 03, 2016, 09:49:51 PM
Without terrible villains, you can't have great heroes. I'm a fan of Ramsey. He makes me uneasy by simply standing.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 03, 2016, 09:57:41 PM
Well, lets talk about good villains.

Is anyone watching Gotham?

(http://i.imgur.com/MQjfzTu.png)

some very interesting stuff going on here.

(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/89833998/r1.gif)

it was Batman before Batman... but with a sword. his name was Azrael. GCPD was his Arkham. The Police where his fodder.
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Post by: Stratos on May 04, 2016, 12:16:38 AM
Gotham is in the "Wait and binge on Netflix" camp for me. But I am glad to hear it is doing well.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 04, 2016, 01:49:23 AM
You are missing a very good second season. Probably my most anticipated weekly comic show right now on the same line with AoS (mostly because of its MCU tie in).
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Post by: oohhboy on May 04, 2016, 08:22:19 AM
Person of Interest is back and it GOOOOD.
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Post by: Wah on May 04, 2016, 08:35:46 PM
Game of Thrones - spoiler - Jon Snow is back/10

We all knew it was happening. Glad we were all right. Do you remember this pic (http://i.imgur.com/Ez1XgJH.jpg)that was circulated probably hours after the previous season finale?

if you read the books, you'd know what would happen..
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Post by: Stratos on May 04, 2016, 10:23:32 PM
You are missing a very good second season. Probably my most anticipated weekly comic show right now on the same line with AoS (mostly because of its MCU tie in).


This is more due to time than lack of interest. I enjoyed Gotham S1 and had a lot of hope for the series. But I only have so much TV time at the moment.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 04, 2016, 11:06:26 PM
I was following several shows then I had house guests off and on for a few months and it messed up my whole schedule so now I am waiting for Neflix or DVD for Arrow, Flash, Gotham, and The Blacklist.
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 10, 2016, 03:09:21 AM
Person of Interest is back and it GOOOOD.

You can call me Root, bitch

Just strutting down the streets of new york with a shotgun in hand.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2016, 03:41:34 AM
Kinda cheating, but I didn't see a thread for the NBA and it's been one helluva season with NO talk about it here AT ALL.

but this is about to be my New Avatar. as soon as I remember how to properly crop and shrink it to fit.

(https://media.giphy.com/media/l41lVCaNfN7zjhFsc/giphy.gif)

muthafukin SUPER SAIYAN tonite!!!
can't **** w/ my boy Curry. Warriors on a war path now that their Champion is back.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on May 10, 2016, 09:31:31 PM
Yes, apparently this Stephen Curry character is pretty good at basketball.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 11, 2016, 04:43:30 PM
Did Person of Interest seriously just mine jokes - successfully - out of an artificial intelligence having facial recognition bugs?

Impressive.
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Post by: Stogi on May 11, 2016, 04:48:08 PM
Well that didn't last long. the break up
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Post by: oohhboy on May 11, 2016, 08:21:09 PM
This is the best final season of anything ever. The amount of humour they are packing in is amazing. It's funnier than actual comedy shows. Episode 3 ending was just brilliant. I picked up all the cues, but even then it still hit like a dump truck.

The machine openings are just sublime.
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Post by: Khushrenada on May 11, 2016, 08:56:28 PM
Well that didn't last long. the break up

Ain't got time for filler no more. Only 13 episodes to wrap this story up!


The machine openings are just sublime.

The finally showed the new opening credits with EP 3 and I really like it and how they've got the battle of two machines playing out over it while also showing the similarities/differences between them. It's really quite clever with how well it summarizes where the series is at for those that are following it. Not sure what it would it come across like for someone watching for the first time but screw 'em. Could have used their views when it mattered for keeping this show on the air. Too late to care about them now.

Episode 3 ending was just brilliant. I picked up all the cues, but even then it still hit like a dump truck.

What do you mean? Are you talking about Reese being responsible for killing the Zinger missile selling army dude or breaking up with psychiatrist?
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Post by: oohhboy on May 12, 2016, 01:08:08 AM
Episode 3 ending was just brilliant. I picked up all the cues, but even then it still hit like a dump truck.
What do you mean? Are you talking about Reese being responsible for killing the Zinger missile selling army dude or breaking up with psychiatrist?
A bit of both, but way more of the former. I picked up on the same clues as Reese did but he shot a bit faster than I could finish that thought. The show really knows how to pull your levers as Reese spins that story for his number. I really thought Beagle was going to end up dead for a while as he seemed to be the type that does bad dirty work whose Karma was going to bite him in the ass. The contrast between Reese then and now is startling. He is the Tin Man given a heart.

The psychiatrist was never going to work out. They both knew they were lying to each other and you can't build a working relationship off that. Like Finch and Grace it was never going to work as Finch would have to lie to her constantly.


Season 2 OpeningMakes me want Amy/Root play everyone all the time.
"Paid in Advance."
"What I need is a bigger gun."
"I will go shoot some knees and get my own intel."
*Fist bump*.

It has been unbelievably good. This isn't a hype train, it's a rocket to the stars. The Reese-isms are just amazing.
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 12, 2016, 05:48:38 PM
Supergirl has been renewed, but is moving to The CW. Production moving to Vancouver.
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Post by: broodwars on May 12, 2016, 07:06:32 PM
Supergirl has been renewed, but is moving to The CW. Production moving to Vancouver.

Bleh. That show improved a lot over the course of its first season, but it still wasn't a great show by the end. I wish they had picked up Constantine instead, especially after his guest appearance in Arrow this season.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 12, 2016, 08:51:56 PM
At that point, they may as well just rename the station to DCtv
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 12, 2016, 09:32:51 PM
It was expected, but still sucks to see Fox officially canceled The Grinder. Great cast and even better writing, it was just too good for network TV. Grinder rests.
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Post by: UncleBob on May 12, 2016, 10:49:02 PM
On the bright side, I'm half-way towards winning my prediction of the Crisis on Infinite Networks. :D
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Post by: Spak-Spang on May 13, 2016, 01:58:31 AM
I really feel for the creative team.  They created Supergirl and Flash in different universes and now they can be together.  They need to fix that mistake somehow.  They real need to ditch Legends of Tomorrow and just have a team up show called JSA.  Include all the heroes they already created but focus on teamup stories 2 parters that lead to a bigger story. (Technically I guess they should call it World's Finest then.  Constantine, Flash, Super Girl, Jonah Hex, Green Arrow, The Atom, White Canary, Rip Hunter, FireStorm, (Maybe we can get us some Zantana or Nightwing???)
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Post by: UncleBob on May 13, 2016, 08:47:28 AM
Nightwing is probably out due to the upcoming Titans project.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 13, 2016, 09:24:23 AM
you forgot Vixen.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 13, 2016, 03:17:55 PM
Krypton has been picked up too.  I've never been less excited for a comic book show. 
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Post by: UncleBob on May 13, 2016, 04:15:36 PM
Krypton has been picked up too.  I've never been less excited for a comic book show. 

Yeah.  :/
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Post by: supermario2k on May 13, 2016, 05:05:42 PM
I am addicted to Downton Abby. I wish I had discovered this show when it was new I could have used it. I just finished season 3. I am not liking where I think it is going man oh man.
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Post by: oohhboy on May 13, 2016, 10:02:34 PM
Krypton has been picked up too.  I've never been less excited for a comic book show.
Wait. What? Why would I want to watch a show where the planet is going to blow up anyway and is infested with lens flares? That stuff in Supergirl was the worse bits.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 14, 2016, 04:30:08 PM
Krypton has been picked up too.  I've never been less excited for a comic book show.
Wait. What? Why would I want to watch a show where the planet is going to blow up anyway and is infested with lens flares? That stuff in Supergirl was the worse bits.

It's not so much that.  For me at least.  It's more so that I believe there are people involved in this that are also doing shows in the Arrowverse.  Compounded with that point that it's set on Krypton.  Kryptonians on Krypton are normal people.  No powers.  So we will essentially be watching an Arrow like show full of the stupid, annoying, contrived and completely unbelievable "romances" that drag down the existing shows.  The only difference is there will be no superpowers to cancel out the trash.

Welcome to "Bold and the Beautiful" in space!
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Post by: Plugabugz on May 14, 2016, 04:34:11 PM
Krypton has been picked up too.  I've never been less excited for a comic book show.
Wait. What? Why would I want to watch a show where the planet is going to blow up anyway and is infested with lens flares? That stuff in Supergirl was the worse bits.

It's not so much that.  For me at least.  It's more so that I believe there are people involved in this that are also doing shows in the Arrowverse.  Compounded with that point that it's set on Krypton.  Kryptonians on Krypton are normal people.  No powers.  So we will essentially be watching an Arrow like show full of the stupid, annoying, contrived and completely unbelievable "romances" that drag down the existing shows.  The only difference is there will be no superpowers to cancel out the trash.

Welcome to "Bold and the Beautiful" in space!

The writer is David S Goyer (who's done BVS, the dark knight trilogy and man of steel) and the showrunner is Damian Kindler who did Sanctuary. There's no connection to the Berlantiverse or his studio.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 14, 2016, 05:07:50 PM

The writer is David S Goyer (who's done BVS, the dark knight trilogy and man of steel) and the showrunner is Damian Kindler who did Sanctuary. There's no connection to the Berlantiverse or his studio.

Hmmm.  I wonder where I got that from then.  Must have got the names confused.  Oh well I stand corrected.  Either way I can't say I'm too excited.
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Post by: ThePerm on May 16, 2016, 03:23:41 AM
A Krypton show is basically Star Trek.
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Post by: broodwars on May 16, 2016, 03:42:24 AM
A Krypton show is basically Star Trek.

Worse: it's Caprica.  Seriously, it's a Sci-Fi prequel no one asked for, featuring characters no one cares about and who will all be dead by the time the show gets to events we do kind of care about. And like Caprica, it will probably be canceled after 1 season,
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 16, 2016, 04:09:02 AM
That's a damn good comparison.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 16, 2016, 06:19:37 AM
Well I've never heard of Caprica.  So I guess that bodes well lol.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 16, 2016, 07:06:48 AM
It was a prequel to Battlestar Galactica, about the people designing the robots that would eventually rise up and try to kill everyone. Basically take the original show, except with worse writing and without the exciting space battles and action.
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Post by: supermario2k on May 16, 2016, 07:06:53 PM
I thought Caprica was good. I never watched Battlestar-Disco-fever-Star-Wars-knock-off though so I wasn't sure how it related.
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 17, 2016, 03:49:11 PM
So Castle has all wrapped up.  Didn't get renewed for season 9.  Which is for the best in my opinion.  They did well in keeping it interesting for as long as they did and the themes episodes were amazing.  The later season's story archs though were fairly contrived.

The finale itself felt very weird.  They said they actually filmed two of them, one to use if season 9 was greenlit and the other to use if it wasn't.  I don't think that was true.  I think one of the scenes was shot twice with slightly different outcomes and the very final scene was filmed at the last minute and tacked on, because that's how if felt.  Very jarring. 
Personally I was hoping there would be some kind of Castle epicness to end the show, like it taking place in space, with superpowers, at least in a dream sequence.

But anyway it had a good run and I had a lot of fun with it.  Now we can hope Mr Fillion will go back to Firefly :P
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Post by: oohhboy on May 18, 2016, 11:57:20 AM
TWWIIIIIST
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2016, 01:59:48 AM
But anyway it had a good run and I had a lot of fun with it.  Now we can hope Mr Fillion will go back to Firefly :P

Will you consider Guardians of the Galaxy as a "close enough" option for now?
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Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 19, 2016, 03:40:51 AM
I would. Especially since it's rumoured Mr Fillion will have a bigger role in Guardians 2.

Edit: What are the chances of his character being Malcolm Reynolds? Since Joss Whedon has his Marvel time I wonder if he would allow them to use his characters? That would be epic if old Mal busted in with an amazing entrance.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2016, 09:10:14 AM
I would. Especially since it's rumoured Mr Fillion will have a bigger role in Guardians 2.

Edit: What are the chances of his character being Malcolm Reynolds? Since Joss Whedon has his Marvel time I wonder if he would allow them to use his characters? That would be epic if old Mal busted in with an amazing entrance.

according to leaked set photos he is Simon Williams aka Wonder Man, and this is confirmed by the in-movie movie posters in which he plays several roles, including Tony Stark in a biopic pic for a movie marathon starring his movie-star character.
http://screencrush.com/guardians-of-the-galaxy-2-nathan-fillion/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 19, 2016, 04:29:32 PM
I would rather Mal Reynolds lol.  Hopefully there is a cameo or at least a reference :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 20, 2016, 03:11:49 AM
Person of Interest.... Shaw is in her own personal hell almost doomed to repeat itself

And THAT twist. POI continues to drop the mic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 20, 2016, 03:17:52 AM
Person of Interest.... Shaw is in her own personal hell almost doomed to repeat itself

And THAT twist. POI continues to drop the mic.

you talking about ep4 or ep5 in regards to "that twist"?


I just played catch up over the weekend and now I'm current w/ ep5
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 20, 2016, 06:51:20 AM
Both.

Ep 4 with how it was 6741 simulations, and ep 5 with Elias not being dead
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 24, 2016, 03:22:05 AM
Gotham Season 2:

I think TV Guides headline sums it up nicely:
Gotham's Second Season Found Its Way by Losing Its Mind.

Season 2 was labeled: Rise of the Villians, and if you just take this show for all the comicbookiness deliciousness it aims to deliver, you will always be hungry for more. They went all out entertainment for this one. Hugo Strange was an awesome protagonist that opened the door for a season 3 chock full of even more crazy Gotham to come, just as he filled season 2 with it as well.
The Joker.. I mean Jerome, was pitch fucking perfect, and once you watch the season... and then the finale you already know he will be back.

It doesn't really matter what you thought of S1 of this show, S2 has literally said **** IT, and decided to not expect a season 5, we gotta blow this **** up NOW. This is seriously probably the best comicbooky comic show on TV right now, and has been my most anticipated weekly when on air since early in S2.

long story short: best comic show on TV, awesome Season 2, and great setup for season 3. recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 25, 2016, 04:19:20 PM
American Dad absolutely nailed it with the steve storyline this week. Scott Grimes (who voices Steve) is amazing. Good to see the magic is still there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on May 25, 2016, 06:23:04 PM
My wife and I feel that American Dad is the best of the MacFarlane shows. I think it gets the most laughs because more of the jokes do not stand on the backs of pop culture as much as Family Guy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 25, 2016, 07:32:22 PM
Watched the finale of the Flash.  I really liked the episode, but people need to really figure a way to deal with these problems with less stress and emotion.  The team had the right idea protecting Barry.


I also liked the style of cliffhanger this season.  We had full resolve of the main conflict and felt like the series could END that episode, but then also had something huge to talk about for the impact of the universe. 


Barry saves his mom, and potentially makes a massive paradox. 


I am curious to see what happens next season and how (if at all) this cliffhanger will affect the other shows.  Maybe just maybe it can make The Arrow better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on May 25, 2016, 07:35:06 PM
American Dad's at its best when Steve is singing or there are songs throughout the episode. This weeks episode was great, though I still prefer the hot tub episode best.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2016, 01:18:40 AM
I have been re-watching King of the Hill and although formulaic it is by far the best Fox animated series.  I am sad that it is gone.  I don't think we will get another cartoon series like that again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on May 26, 2016, 03:13:39 AM
I am curious to see what happens next season and how (if at all) this cliffhanger will affect the other shows.  Maybe just maybe it can make The Arrow better.

I respectfully disagree. Although it has still had its stumbles, Arrow really rebounded this season and by episode 8 or 9 this year, I felt it had reclaimed it's throne of best DCU TV series. The Flash started out with a lot of momentum but after the first Zoom confrontation and then Patty's exit, it just began to nosedive and ultimately, it ended rather weakly. In fact, I think I'd be willing to put Legends of Tomorrow slightly ahead of it in DC series in hype/viewing enthusiasm/vested interest or whatever you want to call the pull of continued viewing compulsion.

My quick take having now seen Arrow's wrap up is:

Arrow
Legends of Tomorrow
The Flash
Supergirl

I have not seen any of Gotham or iZombie to comment on those DC properties. All in all, it feels like its been a bumpy ride for most of these shows with Arrow being the best performer with the most consistent season and overall execution. The rest were messy with bright spots here and there but contained a lot more disbelief in character actions/motivations and poorer execution of ideas.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on May 26, 2016, 08:29:08 PM
meh watching Game Of Thrones season 6 right now and Dexter. And waiting for Agents of Shield season 3 to come out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 26, 2016, 08:49:54 PM
American Dad absolutely nailed it with the steve storyline this week. Scott Grimes (who voices Steve) is amazing. Good to see the magic is still there.
Just saw this episode. Steve's "B" plot was just amazing. American Dad is definitely the best of Seth's work. Family Guy is still good to watch now compared to the Simpsons of the same season or now. Family Guy might lean a little too heavy on the pop culture, but the Simpsons is just straight up irrelevant now and lost it's comedy edge a long time ago.

I have been re-watching King of the Hill and although formulaic it is by far the best Fox animated series.  I am sad that it is gone.  I don't think we will get another cartoon series like that again.
Liberal does a comedy based on a somewhat conservative family that isn't full blown crazy but on the surface bland yet have weird hang ups and has no ass, loves propane too much. You're not going to get another show like it as it was a really subtle show and people expect in your face or else no one notices.

POI is continuing to break all expectations. the end is going to be sad and a celebration.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 26, 2016, 09:45:27 PM
American Dad absolutely nailed it with the steve storyline this week. Scott Grimes (who voices Steve) is amazing. Good to see the magic is still there.
Just saw this episode. Steve's "B" plot was just amazing. American Dad is definitely the best of Seth's work. Family Guy is still good to watch now compared to the Simpsons of the same season or now. Family Guy might lean a little too heavy on the pop culture, but the Simpsons is just straight up irrelevant now and lost it's comedy edge a long time ago.

I have been re-watching King of the Hill and although formulaic it is by far the best Fox animated series.  I am sad that it is gone.  I don't think we will get another cartoon series like that again.
Liberal does a comedy based on a somewhat conservative family that isn't full blown crazy but on the surface bland yet have weird hang ups and has no ass, loves propane too much. You're not going to get another show like it as it was a really subtle show and people expect in your face or else no one notices.

POI is continuing to break all expectations. the end is going to be sad and a celebration.

I can honestly say I did not understand your comment about King of the Hill at all.  I read it three times, and I really want to understand, because it sounds like you are suggesting another show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 27, 2016, 12:47:49 AM
No, I am not suggesting another show. I am pointing out some of the inherent contradictions that make the show funny despite it not being in your face or obviously funny ala Family Guy.

Have a look at the opening. On the surface it looks boring as ****. It's a couple of average guys standing there drinking beer, but surrounding them is all these humorous things that are happening are yet oblivious to. It's a reflection of the show as a whole. The solution to their problems are blatantly obvious but their conservative hang ups prevent them from going directly to these solutions. It's their boringness that makes these normally mundane events interesting. Unlike other sitcoms, they aren't trying to act up and be wacky, these are normal people dealing with things that are just a little bit uncomfortable with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 28, 2016, 05:33:28 AM
And yet, it is not offensive to conservatives.  This is what I love about the show.  It shows 4 "regular guys" and a very conservative but GOOD father.  He learns to accept the world, but never compromises his beliefs.  It never preaches against a certain view, but instead finds a middle ground that is respectful of both positions.  In fact in many ways the show flipped the traditional formula of sitcoms on its head.  Instead of the father being the buffoon in many ways it was Peggy...but not because she is stupid, but because she is over confident...which is her only character flaw.  You end up caring for all the characters and even can clearly understand where their flaws come from...and hope they improve.   
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 28, 2016, 06:59:12 AM
I don't think that Hank is particularly conservative or idealogical at all. His world bubble is mostly just small than that he has conservative values. He likes things as they out of habit that any idealogical belief and the outside world challenge these habits expanding his bubble. His surroundings is conservative though.

This is especially telling in the episode where he finds out he has a Japanese half brother. He isn't remotely racist about it, he is far more surprised he has a half brother and aggrieved towards his dad about hiding this information. Race and ideology had nothing to do with it. He could have been a hidden twin and his reaction would have been the same. His brother being Japanese is there to challenge the conservative audience who watch the show thinking he is right-wing.

As a left-wing viewer I enjoy that it pokes fun at the more extreme elements on both sides. That said, the solutions to most of his troubles are seemingly left wing because America is so right wing as a whole when for most other countries it would be considered dead centre. To reference it to today's climate American, to find the left you would have to go all the way to Sanders and even then he is not remotely extreme outside of the US.

I don't think he is a GOOD father, he is just a father and has your usual trouble of not understanding the younger generation. His relationship skills aren't that great and are not helped that he is so stiff, but he is A+ for effort.

Peggy isn't over-confident, she is Manic. She doesn't consider the consequences of what she does until someone steers her back towards where the ground is. Once she grabs an idea she is off to the races. Lucky she is surrounded by more grounded people who bring her back before she does real damage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 28, 2016, 01:00:46 PM
Barry saves his mom, and potentially makes a massive paradox. 

Would you say, a Flashpoint paradox? ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 28, 2016, 01:28:46 PM
My quick take having now seen Arrow's wrap up is:

Haven't seen the Arrow finale yet... but wow.  We're way off each other.

Gotham is at the top of the list for me.  It really, really had issues starting out, but this season, it seems like they knew they were on the cusp of not getting renewed, so they said "**** it" and put seven seasons worth of story lines into it.  The only down side is, really, as-is, I don't give a flying horse **** about Bruce's character.  Like, if I didn't *know* what he's supposed to become, I'd be watching this series all like "Seriously, this kid again?"  It's not that he's a bad actor or anything - his character just seems really, really shoe-horned into the main plots because he's Batman.

Flash is a lot of fun for me.  I am really enjoying it.

Arrow... it's hit-or-miss middle-ground for me.  I wish they'd stop with the flashbacks.  I like to think they're building to something, but they're really just pulling me out of the moment.  What, one more year of them?

Supergirl - the Flash episode is amazingly fun, but, overall, I just am not a fan.  I don't care about any of the characters, the show doesn't seem to have enough of budget for the effects they try to pull off, so they come off looking cheesy, the occasional insertion of hints about Superman just pulls me out of the show and annoys me to no ends.  I do hope they pull her into the main-stream TV universe and this will give them an excuse to ditch Superman altogether.  I don't see how they can do this though.

Legends of Tomorrow is a complete cluster**** and every week my wife and I ask each other why we're still watching it.  It's just bad.

You're not going to get another show like it as it was a really subtle show and people expect in your face or else no one notices.

South Park had the best commentary on King of the Hill in their Cartoon Wars episodes.  The main action is going on with a wacky fight scene that goes through an office for King of the Hill staff.  There's a big banner that's "King of the Hill: 10th Season" and all of the staff just continues working while all the wackyness goes through their office.  I feel like this was a tongue in cheek reference to exactly what you're explaining - King of the Hill is, at it's core, a mundane story of everyday life - Hank doesn't just up and quit his job and get a new, wacky job every third episode.  Pop culture is kept to a minimum (and when it is, it's something like Peggy going to Nashville).  There are no aliens (Gribble: "That's just what they want you to think!") or what-have-you.  It's just fun.

Netflix should fund a King of the Hill movie set ten years after the last episode. :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 29, 2016, 07:38:17 AM
Gotham still has tone issues that it needs to desperately sort out. When it goes balls-out batshit crazy like it did with blowing up Azrael with a rocket launcher it's great, but it cant keep jumping back and forth between that an "gritty" and comedy repeatedly.

Did Team Arrow basically just orphan Darkh's daughter and then never even mention it? Seriously!?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on May 29, 2016, 09:52:13 PM
Yes they did.  But don't worry they could Flashpoint the entire season...and add Supergirl into the fold of the Arrowverse.  Which would be nice.  Also, they could Flashpoint Captain Cold's recent development.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lucreciazak3 on May 30, 2016, 06:41:27 AM
Barry saves his mom, and potentially makes a massive paradox. 

Would you say, a Flashpoint paradox? ;)


exactly
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 31, 2016, 02:58:46 AM
Yes they did.  But don't worry they could Flashpoint the entire season...

Or just forget they did that and go onto something else. I'd love if in season 6 (6!) they acknowledge this point and she comes back to wage war for killing her parents. It's a perfectly earned character development given both Oliver and Diggle are in a similar position.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 31, 2016, 10:28:54 AM
They could Flashpoint the entire series, start it over, and then get to keep telling flashbacks for five more seasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on June 01, 2016, 12:07:46 AM
Plugabugz:  As great of an idea that is.  The girl is 1) too young to really be a threat.  2) Was saved by the same team so she has to be conflicted.  3) It could be just as easy to have her get some counselling and help than to turn her into a villain. 

I don't know who they make into the next villain but one thing for sure this Dark Archer being good and evil at the same time is boring.  I would rather have one last season that turns him and Thea evil than to deal with this wishy washy stuff again. 

Honestly, they can't Flashpoint the entire series, because they can't have a the Flash season 2 be a prerequisite for knowing what is going on.  UNLESS, they open the new series with a week long event through all 4 CW TV shows, and have a Flashpoint miniseries that basically finishes a week long story with the universe mostly being repaired, except that Supergirl is now in the CW universe.  This could give them an interesting way to re-introduce some characters and add some more fun comic book elements into the series. 

Personally, I hope they do a series where Wally West is the Flash for the first half of the series or so.  Barry Allen somehow changed history, but he remembers both histories, and he helps Wally be a better Flash as a mentor.  Eventually, a threat happens that forces Barry to figure out a way to become The Flash again.  I would tell the story that Barry Allen dies and the world is on the brink of destruction and Wally West travels back in time via the Speed Force, but goes back to the moment Barry is deciding to save his mom in Season 2 and does a Back To The Future interruption.   Restoring time, but then being trapped into Speed Force again.  As Wally West Flash disappears for changing history, The real Wally sees him and somehow that jump starts his ability to use the Speed Force.  BOOM.  You have the first half of season 1 done.  Or at least for first 6 episodes. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 01, 2016, 03:34:12 AM
Warning! Bombs are dropping on Person of Interest. I'm enthralled and saddened at the same time. Only 3 episodes left now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 02, 2016, 03:01:59 AM
It's raining them right now! What an insane way to mark 100 episodes, and truly well earned when you realise:


1 - This is only the second time in the entire series he's gone dark.
2 - But in both cases its directly caused by Grace, the first when Samaritan kidnapped Grace and he tells Shaw and Reese to "kill them all".
3 - People laying down their lives for him (despite him not asking for that repeatedly) and it's his mistakes that caused that to happen


And then we get Root firing the big guns out of the sunroof of the car while steering with her foot.

One of the best of the series i think - and given that bar is already very high with If Then Else and The Devil's Share that's good company.

It also presents something Finch has been trying to avoid the entire series: what happens when you give Finch (the admin) permanent God Mode? The show is going out with an almighty bang and i'm glad it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 07, 2016, 10:14:40 PM
POI

Did they just set up a spin-off show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 08, 2016, 02:12:25 AM
POI

Did they just set up a spin-off show?

Yes. well... maybe not exactly a show... maybe a mini series, or TV movie. but they certainly opened the door for the story to continue in some way or another.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 08, 2016, 05:31:28 PM
PoIRest in Peace Cocopuffs.

I managed to get some dust in my eye. It is both sad and fitting that she is buried as nothing more than a number. Even before Team machine she didn't have an ID, it was just a series of numbers she would dump and move on without regret.

Finch is setting up for something epic. He was Ice cold with that Airforce Officer. I don't think he would actually follow through with his threat, but that delivery was just scary. Kill Sammy Harold.

The funny thing about the CFC story is that the same person invented Leaded Petrol and pushed it even though he knew it was harmful so the comparison is a bit flat. Dude is bad scientist who wanted money, not to help the world.

LOL Shaw repeating that tibit about dude having a bum Knee.

It is genius that the writers "Boxed" the Machine at the start of the series. If it was an open system from the start it would have been a pretty poor show as it would have been literal Deus Machina all the time.

While I would love a spin-off show or a movie of some sort, I wouldn't want to follow the DC team. I would want to follow someone who really doesn't know what is going on.
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 16, 2016, 03:39:23 AM
PoIRest in Peace Cocopuffs.

I managed to get some dust in my eye. It is both sad and fitting that she is buried as nothing more than a number. Even before Team machine she didn't have an ID, it was just a series of numbers she would dump and move on without regret.

Finch is setting up for something epic. He was Ice cold with that Airforce Officer. I don't think he would actually follow through with his threat, but that delivery was just scary. Kill Sammy Harold.

The funny thing about the CFC story is that the same person invented Leaded Petrol and pushed it even though he knew it was harmful so the comparison is a bit flat. Dude is bad scientist who wanted money, not to help the world.

LOL Shaw repeating that tibit about dude having a bum Knee.

It is genius that the writers "Boxed" the Machine at the start of the series. If it was an open system from the start it would have been a pretty poor show as it would have been literal Deus Machina all the time.

While I would love a spin-off show or a movie of some sort, I wouldn't want to follow the DC team. I would want to follow someone who really doesn't know what is going on.
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This i completely agree with. Making the machinea closed system has allowed the show to develop her into being her own character over five seasons, even though in four of them she never directly spoke. It takes some extremely good writing to do that with a character that's never seen or heard directly and only ever referred to in the third person by other characters, even if they're standing with her.

I'm sad they killed off Greer, but he was as loyal to Samaritan as Root was to her. Finch is on a rampage and is giving me moments of Ben Linus.



https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/the-triumphant-rise-and-mysterious-fall-of-person-of-interes (https://www.buzzfeed.com/kateaurthur/the-triumphant-rise-and-mysterious-fall-of-person-of-interes) - According to this interview the producers didn't even know about the cancellation themselves until late and even then the writers just announced it themselves. Meanwhile CBS kept pushing "numbers of the week" episodes on them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 20, 2016, 01:16:34 AM
Game of Thrones - Holy Fucking ****/10

All around badass episode, possibly the best of the series. Season 6 gas been simply amazing so far. Definitely seems like the series is starting to wrap things up though, which kind of sucks, but it should end on a high note.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 20, 2016, 12:54:28 PM
They were intense fights and I loved every minute of it.


I am devastated at one death: RIP Wun Wun. The other deaths were either not surprising or well done.


My favorite part was when Jon crawls out of the mess with Tormond and Wun Wun and they charge after Ramsey to break down the gate. I got a very Lord of the Rings feel, even letting out a cheer.


I am a bit sad though, this will be the last 'epic 9' since the last two seasons will be shortened and I've enjoyed the last few 9's a lot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 20, 2016, 11:04:27 PM
Some of it was not surprising, but the execution of the whole episode was simply perfect. Maybe 6s and 7s will become the new 9s?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2016, 03:35:05 AM
Please tell me that wasn't the season finale (or even the episode before it) though... is this still a 13 ep run? and the next 2 are short?

That battle... both of them actually, were fucking great.
That ending was well deserved, and please tell me that the Lord of Light can bring back the last of the Giants...!?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 21, 2016, 10:37:12 AM

I am really looking forward to this now....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 21, 2016, 11:28:44 AM
Looks good. I am not ready for the end...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 21, 2016, 09:38:10 PM
Game of Thrones has always been 10 episodes per season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 21, 2016, 11:32:08 PM
Has it?

How short are the next 2 seasons?
8 eps?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 21, 2016, 11:58:13 PM
This is the last 10 ep season. S7 will have 7 eps and S8 will only have 6. But if you haven't noticed, the episodes are getting longer. This one was about 65 minutes and ep 10 will be 69 minutes. Less episodes going forward, but they will be longer as well. I think it will be great for story telling and balancing the pace.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 22, 2016, 02:22:41 PM
Holy **** that ending. I have never seen a show end that well. It's a miracle considering the amount of fuckery the show went through. MAXIMUM NOLAN.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 22, 2016, 02:33:58 PM
Holy **** that ending. I have never seen a show end that well. It's a miracle considering the amount of fuckery the show went through. MAXIMUM NOLAN.

I just finished it myself. I'm without words. That was incredible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 22, 2016, 04:31:19 PM
I'm a day behind right now as I kinda got into Sense8 on Monday, but PoI is priority watching tonight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 22, 2016, 05:19:51 PM
Yeah, I'm still kind of digesting and processing the end of PoI. I often agree with the sentiment of how many shows would be better off with a lesser episode count to avoid a lot of filler episodes. PoI is one of the few exceptions where I wish they had a longer season. There was just so much storyline and character action that I'd love to have seen further explored and expanded on. At the same time, it's one of the few shows where when it does its normal procedural case of the week, it can often be just as entertaining as the serial storylines. I love it all!

It does make the latter half of Season 4 and it's wheel spinning a bit more unfortunate because I wish they could have used some of those episodes to take on some of the stuff done in Season 5 but how were the producers to know this would happen? All the signs pointed to another full season order. It's rare for a show to be entering it's 5th season and still have so much story to offer and to keep getting bigger and better without going overboard. Just all around well-written, well-acted and well-produced. A true, true gem in the TV world landscape. It's a shame it was a bit hampered at the end with a cast member taking some pregnancy leave and then being compressed a bit in its final season by the restrictions but on it be CBS. Still, the writers and producers continued to do the best they could with the circumstances they had and continued to deliver an excellent product. In the past decade, there have been many shows that have started strong and had a good season or two and then began to falter. PoI was a straight line of quality. An arrow from beginning to end.

Thank you NWR forum members for putting this show on my radar and getting me into it. I'm not sure how long it would have ever taken me to clue in to this show if I hadn't seen you all talking so much about it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 23, 2016, 01:14:01 AM
I was in tears for about half of the episode's running time if that means anything.

Here is a little something for the fans about the final episode. John's missile death was only delayed when he escaped the first one, he was always going to die by missile.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 23, 2016, 03:02:25 AM
Game of Thrones
Yeah, it would be shitty that there would be no more giants. I don't give a **** about Rickon, but that giant was cool as ****, plus theres Bran, Bran's way cooler than Rickon

They are kinda in a bad position though in the North though...All those guys that died in battle. Winter is coming.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 23, 2016, 08:59:41 PM
I was in tears for about half of the episode's running time if that means anything.

Here is a little something for the fans about the final episode. John's missile death was only delayed when he escaped the first one, he was always going to die by missile.

That's interesting. I never thought about that or made that connection. When you contrast the fact that his first missile death was at a time in which he had pretty much lost faith in his government work and wanted to get back to his girl for whom he'd be too late compared to when he did go out in his second missile death where he had a purpose he fully believed in and was able to save a friend and the world, he still got a happy ending in a way. Though I was still hoping it would be him and Zoe hooking up at the end and working together in some way. Still, from the way the episode started, it could have been much bleaker and seemed to be heading that way with most of Team Machine sporting injuries of some sort.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 24, 2016, 03:12:11 AM
It's worth pointing out that the actors of Zoe, Control and Leon were all unavailable so they were simply not mentioned. A longer season, or possibly another season would have allowed them to appear possibly...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 24, 2016, 03:31:24 AM
If there was a spin off they could start the new numbers team cleaning up all of those orphaned sammy agents who are now out of control yet are still organized. They could try to bring in a new ASI god and this time the team stops them before it gets deployed. If it is a dedicated team they can have them jumping around the world doing this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2016, 01:52:45 AM
Is anyone here watching Preacher on AMC?

it's based on a comic I've never read, and stars MCU's young Howard Stark (Dominic Cooper) and (his IRL wife) AoS's Lady in the Flower Dress aka Raina (Ruth Negga).

Is it just me or is this show just random, weird and kinda slow to get to whatever it is getting to?
It seems like there is some interesting people on the show, but the show seems so unfocused that I'm not even sure what is going on... but based on internet hype from those that have read the comics, this show is supposed to get real interesting real soon. It just hasn't gotten there yet. I have not watched tonights episode, but i'm losing interest in this quickly, so I hope it picks up and goes somewhere soon.

I can't be the only one here (still) watching it right?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 27, 2016, 03:58:14 AM
Winter has come!!!


We finally got to see Arya as a badass and do the one thing we were hoping for the past couple years.


And the death toll really climbs in this one. Lots of deaths and in a lot of different ways. Also some characters "leaving" for one reason or another. Will they be back? Who knows? Maybe the non-star actors want out before the hype of the series dies out completely.


Super happy with the longer episodes. It allows you to really cover all of the various plot points in a way that does them justice. Only two sets of characters were not present Brienne and Pod must have gotten lost where Gendry is as both were last seen rowing boats, and The Hound with the Brotherhood w/o Banners.


They also left out the night's watch, so the season did not end where I thought it would with the Night's King finding a way through the magic, overrunning Castle Black, and passing South.


Is anyone here watching Preacher on AMC?

{...}

I can't be the only one here (still) watching it right?


The cast sounds interesting, but the crazy internet hype kinda turned me away from it. I've got other shows on my mind and just don't want to get into it. Let me know if it does get real interesting and I'll give it a shot then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2016, 07:35:48 AM
Winter has come!!!

~snip~

GoT was pretty good. I've kinda lost track of what's going on with Bron and his visions of his dad and I assume Jon Snow. Circe is ruthless, but ultimately got the power back that she seeked. and hopefully next season Daenerys lands and the march to take over Westeros(?) can begin. I can only suspect that her march for the throne will be met head-on with the white walker/army of the dead and last one standing (the imp? Baelish? Wildling w/ baby? Vary's? possibly the leader of the Unsullied and the Afro hottie?) takes the thrown.

For the record, I'm not expecting those suggestions to pan out just as much as I expect the Dead King to actually rule from the iron throne with a undead dragon by his side when this is all said and done.

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Is anyone here watching Preacher on AMC?

{...}

I can't be the only one here (still) watching it right?


The cast sounds interesting, but the crazy internet hype kinda turned me away from it. I've got other shows on my mind and just don't want to get into it. Let me know if it does get real interesting and I'll give it a shot then.

After watching tonights ep5 , the preview for next episode looks like it's where things begin to pop off. I'll probably finish the season regardless... but a next season viewing is not likely if this doesn't really suck me in the last half of the season, since I hear it's only 10eps long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 27, 2016, 06:32:22 PM
Game of Thrones are not pretty good, it was amazing. This whole season has been the best season of any show I've ever seen - followed closely by the latter half of The Walking Dead Season 6 (which was tarnished by the cliff hanger episode), which was also incredible.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 27, 2016, 07:59:43 PM
It needed more time.

What is the Bron storyline? please break it down for me... he's so far and few inbetween, I just don't remember what all the details are with him. what's with the flashback and being able to manipulate them?

What's with Big Boy and his wildling GF and her baby?

I wanted more Aria Stark. To see her put the face back on and then disappear back into the crowd would have been great.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 27, 2016, 09:41:36 PM
He's becoming the Maester. They're either setting it up for Jon Snow taking the throne, or a massive, depressing finale to the show. Anyway...Bran is the three eyed raven now, he's just seeing the past, not manipulating it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2016, 02:11:03 AM
He's becoming the Maester. They're either setting it up for Jon Snow taking the throne, or a massive, depressing finale to the show. Anyway...Bran is the three eyed raven now, he's just seeing the past, not manipulating it.

but he did something that his father reacted to, not changing the history, but making him stop and look back as if he heard something that wasn't there. I'm also assuming that after Jon Snow teams up with (and eventually marries) the Mother of Dragons, Bran will eventually be controlling a Dragon, and hopefully Kings Landing (& Circe) is the first major casualty of the Dead Army.
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Post by: Stogi on June 28, 2016, 01:43:10 PM
Bran can manipulate the past as he did when he warged into Hodor. He is fucking powerful. Though "the ink is dry" and thus can't change things in the past unless he was actually suppose to. It's confusing but the example is Hodor. And yes, there is a possibility he can warg into dragons.

He saw his father take Jon Snow from his aunt, finally letting us know that Jon Snow is a Targaryen and a Stark. There's a whole theory about why this is important but I'll say nothing of it now.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2016, 07:53:22 PM
Ahh, so Jon Snow is the Winter that's coming. of House Stark & House Targaryen. house of Dire Wolves and Dragons. The King of the North.
Half Brother to the Manipulator of Past Events and Whisperer of the Small Minded.
also half brother to the Lady of Many Faces soon to be known as The Needle in the Haystack.
and half brother to Lady Sansa.... bearer of many future Starks under a different last name? (sorry, I got nothing for her)
Soon to meet with his "cousin" Danaery's Stormborn of House Tagareyon, Mother of Dragons, Free'er of Slaves, Kaleesi of the Dothraki, and rightful heir to the Iron Throne. 

Where they will hopefully teamup to bring a force so strong that no Mountain can stand in it's way regardless off how much Green Fire Circe attempts to throw at it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 28, 2016, 09:50:04 PM
Daenerys is his Jon Snow's aunt.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on June 29, 2016, 12:44:28 PM
Maybe we should spoiler tag this?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 29, 2016, 06:44:34 PM
I imagine that the dragons will be used to mercilessly destroy the undead army

Also, Snow is really a cousin to the Starks. It would have saved Ned a lot of trouble if he had told Catelyn that yeah this is your nephew, I'm just saying he's a bastard so he doesnt get killed
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 30, 2016, 02:01:45 AM
She probably knew.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 30, 2016, 03:52:34 AM
Well, she did treat him like ****, but that could have been intentional. All indications seemed she just barely tolerated him.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 30, 2016, 01:12:26 PM
Oh, so now I understand the relevance of the flashback.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2016, 01:11:11 AM
Ned couldn't tell anyone. He was already giving Jon special treatment by raising him along his real kids. Catelyn's behavior helped seal the deal because no woman would lovingly dote on the reminder that while she was bearing Ned's firstborn son he was off fucking a woman an having a kid with her.


Plus I'm not sure Catelyn would have agreed with it. And keeping it to just him and Howland Reed would protect his family if the secret got out.
Plausible deniability on Catelyn's part.


And Peter Baelish has to die. I'm calling it now. He'll get his dream of sitting on the iron throne but be nearly mad in the process of taking it.


Dany will storm in with Drogon along with Jon and Sansa and order him to stand down. Peter will plead with Sansa to join him and she will just nod to Dany and she orders the dragon to burn the iron throne with poor Littlefinger on it, melting the throne to the ground.


I think it would be great to see it burned down and have someone sitting in it as a last stand to the old ways and tyranny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 01, 2016, 03:58:01 AM
Littlefinger would never put himself in that position though. If Jon and Dany are still alive, he can never become King. He knows that. He also knows that he cannot hope to defeat his enemies (and the realms) himself. So like littlefinger has always done, he'll be in the background orchestrating the eventual death of Dany and Jon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 06, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
Some reddit theories about the POI finale:

https://www.reddit.com/r/PersonOfInterest/comments/4ph181/spoilers_a_thought_on_the_final_machine_v/
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Post by: oohhboy on July 06, 2016, 03:55:38 PM
Yeah worked that out pretty much the day after. There are also plenty of small details which sorts a lot of "plotholes" out. I can pretty much explain anything in the finale.

The only thing I actually have issue with is how did Fusco get out of his mess? His ending was almost an intentional joke given how little he had. One Month, "Paper work" and Bear is pretty inexplicable as everybody else was sorted out in the end.
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Post by: Plugabugz on July 06, 2016, 04:31:15 PM
I think that that part had to be cut for time. The rest of the episode was so tightly packed, with not even a single throwaway line, that something had to give to get to that point - It was probably that. If this was a 50 minute episode it would have been better for it.

My guess is Shaw patched him up and he was last seen with her before the final scenes


But ultimately this still stands as one of the best series finales ive ever watched.
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Post by: oohhboy on July 07, 2016, 01:51:05 AM
I wasn't worried about Shaw patching him up, the Fusco was too "Manly" to be taken down by a knife that sized. I was talking more about the aftermath of what happened at the police station. His investigation gets revealed seemingly implicating him to Sammy's murders, he is outed as a dirty cop, The Man in the Suit is exposed as his partner, the Captain is on the floor, police station pulls guns on both of them, dudes that take them away are shot dead nowhere near where they were suppose to be. Has to explain away why/how he got stabbed.

It's almost a joke like how in that episode where Fusco gets to escort the supermodel and it ends with him firing pistols akimbo and the model pawing at him. That was neat for Fusco, but yeah his ending was a bit of a shoulder shrug.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 07, 2016, 03:15:25 AM
OH! Well all of that is true but falls after the main samaritan plotline had ended too, so i agree with the shrug part. Each of the main characters all had a "post-story" of their own to tackle, Finch & Grace, Reese & Zoe, Fusco and his son, Shaw coming to terms with his Root's death and her personification by the machine.... They had to stop somewhere because **** CBS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on July 10, 2016, 01:02:49 AM
I'm fairly sure I've posted about it in this thread before, but my god is The West Wing an amazing show. I've been going through it again on Netflix recently, currently early in season 4. A popular show in here recently has been Person of Interest, which is in most ways a very different kind of show, but one way in which they're similar is that they managed to pull off brilliant, compelling drama within the generally very strict constraints of network TV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on July 10, 2016, 09:25:58 PM
Season three of Agents of Shield is not very good which is a shame because season two was pretty good. It feels so weirdly disconnected from the films, more so than the Netflix shows because the team goes global and they never to run into any Avengers ever. I'm having trouble getting through the season. I think I have like seven episodes left. Like The Walking Dead, it's like I'm just hate watching it now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 10, 2016, 10:49:48 PM
it's totally unconnected from the movies in S3.... but the last few eps are pretty interesting.

Hopefully next season jumps in bed w/ the Netflix shows, or just goes for that series finale season that doesn't trip up the movies plot lines, but instead sets up something bigger later.

... I really wish Marvel Studios would just handle the movie and the TV so that they can honor the "promise" of #itsallconnected
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 11, 2016, 11:31:27 AM
They should rename AoS to Agents of Suffering as the show just never really let people catch a break, got to **** every single one of them over some how.

I really don't mind it being disconnected from the movies as it is it's own show and I was absolutely sick of them name dropping those events. Yes I get it, heli-carriers, New York, battle xyz, Mutant Registration Act etc. They can't bring in an Avenger since it is basically a get out of jail free card. They are so powerful/skilled in comparison to the team that they would solve the plot by themselves unless they crippled whomever showed up. It is the same problem PoI had to deal with.

It is very comic book like in how hand wavy everything is. It just doesn't really have details to explain how something happened. It's all very loose. The fake outs are nice.

They must have had a very big bump in budget as the number and scale of the sets and effects work is well above last season. That final explosion was a wet fart though. That said, I keep thinking what PoI could have done with that much money especially when it really needed it during season 4.

I was entertained and it helped I am not that invested in the whole universe looking to devour every little detail. I let AoS be it's own show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 14, 2016, 03:33:03 AM
I wish AOS got some more visual style and flair of its own (season 1 and 2 did feel quite bland and neutral deliberately).

But POI does/did have the same "avengers problem" but dealt with it by making the machine a closed system, granting god mode a limited number of times and handing THAT power to Samaritan for them to use at will, while Team Machine cannot and introducing the analog interface way later into the show. AOS (and the rest of the MCU) can't get away with that because how Stark/SHIELD doesnt know about whats going on in New York *at least* makes a large disconnect.

Things kept flowing down from the movies to the shows but not in the other direction. Although i think AOS improved as soon as it stopped trying to fit in with the MCU and do its own stuff (hence some of the alien planets and some fight scenes being well done, more relaxed acting and generally more confident in itself).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 14, 2016, 06:32:53 AM
AoS upped the stakes too far last season to the point an Avenger should have shown up. AoS can't take on world ending crisis if it insist on staying inside MCU. Admittedly it would have made the final boring, but it makes too much sense not to call one up. You would think they would have the phone number to some of the weaker people.

It does look better than bland S1/2. Looked liked they have a bigger budget and weren't afraid to get a bit bloody/gore as you had people die some pretty horrific deaths leaving behind quite the mess.

It is the same problem PoI had to deal with.
Seeing that you missed this.

Starting to re-watch PoI from the beginning. I have heard people bitching about Jim's acting, but I keep thinking what the hell were they on about. He was really enjoying it from episode 1. From the beginning it is already dropping those holy **** details that are seemingly meaningless until later in the show. Another little detail I find funny is John/Fusco has put on a fair bit of weight over the seasons. I thought I was imagining it but John gets redder as the show moves along.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 14, 2016, 02:10:39 PM
Mr. Robot Season 2 premiere

This episode was so good, so damn good I literally rewatched it after it was done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 14, 2016, 07:58:39 PM
Mr. Robot Season 2 premiere

This episode was so good, so damn good I literally rewatched it after it was done.

The entire 2 parter?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 15, 2016, 03:20:45 PM
Yup.

I had a theory as soon as it ended and I rewatched elliots scenes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 15, 2016, 11:32:35 PM
And did your theory find support on a rewatch?

And if so, what was the theory?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on July 16, 2016, 03:09:41 AM
Stranger Things on Netflix is a pretty dang good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2016, 03:31:18 AM
Stranger Things on Netflix is a pretty dang good.

Just finished Marco Polo S2

just started Stranger Things ep1
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on July 16, 2016, 09:54:52 AM
I really want to watch Marco Polo, but I I've got too many other shows to watch still. Almost done with AoS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on July 16, 2016, 02:11:35 PM
And did your theory find support on a rewatch?

And if so, what was the theory?

Theory is that Elliot is in a mental institution or prison. The last episode of S1 ended with feds knocking at his door, but yet he's free and it goes unexplained. Yet, if you watch what he does every day, it seems like the life of someone incarcerated. He has a friend he eats meals with every day. His mother only wakes him up and tells him to go to sleep. He watches basketball (and the players suck). Every door he opens sounds like its made of metal. The phone he uses is very prison like. And he goes to a support group.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2016, 03:12:00 PM
And did your theory find support on a rewatch?

And if so, what was the theory?

Theory is that Elliot is in a mental institution or prison. The last episode of S1 ended with feds knocking at his door, but yet he's free and it goes unexplained. Yet, if you watch what he does every day, it seems like the life of someone incarcerated. He has a friend he eats meals with every day. His mother only wakes him up and tells him to go to sleep. He watches basketball (and the players suck). Every door he opens sounds like its made of metal. The phone he uses is very prison like. And he goes to a support group.

Very interesting.... I'm gonna look out for clues that may support that in the upcoming eps.
would also explain why he is living the analog life. Because he doesn't actually have access to any computers inside whatever "rehab" program he is currently in. So everything he is doing is fabricated to keep himself believing that it's his choice and he is not living in a 10x10 padded room for most of his days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 17, 2016, 03:52:14 AM
(http://imgur.com/RuPrXjb.jpg)

(http://imgur.com/Mccpr9q.jpg)

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=35747.msg899166#msg899166 (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=35747.msg899166#msg899166)
That is all. now go watch it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on July 17, 2016, 04:58:24 AM
Stranger things is indeed amazing. It's does a lot of what Super 8 tried to do but it does it better. It's Steven Spielberg meets Stephen King, with some John Carpenter thrown in. Gets the style of the early 80s pitch perfect.

The creature is some sort of Dungeon and Dragons/Lovecraftian creature, but you can believe it as an alien too. Matthew Modine is super creepy as 'Papa' and the way he views the carnage with mild curiousity is very convincing as a sociopathic doctor
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 17, 2016, 10:34:08 AM
Stranger things is indeed amazing. It's does a lot of what Super 8 tried to do but it does it better. It's Steven Spielberg meets Stephen King, with some John Carpenter thrown in. Gets the style of the early 80s pitch perfect.

The creature is some sort of Dungeon and Dragons/Lovecraftian creature, but you can believe it as an alien too. Matthew Modine is super creepy as 'Papa' and the way he views the carnage with mild curiousity is very convincing as a sociopathic doctor

and all the kid actors were really good. I practically watched all 8eps of this in 1 day.
Couldn't recommend it any higher to someone that appreciates any of the bolded description above.


I think a mash-up description of this is if Speilberg directed the Goonies in a John Carpenter Horror movie written by Stephen King all set back in the 80's
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 17, 2016, 04:12:58 PM
Queen of the South

anyone heard of this? New show on USA.
currently 4eps out, and came recommended to me by someone at work. So I checked it out.
So far i really like it.

Oh, you want to know what it's about... sure.

It based on a true story about a woman who is the head of a Mexican Drug Cartel, but it starts off from her beginning hustling in the streets of Mexico before getting a taste of "Dat Good Life" by being a high ranking drug runners GF, before it all goes to ****. Then she has to find a way to stay alive long enough to eventually become The Queen of the South as we see her in the beginning of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 19, 2016, 03:35:46 AM
I'm watching Preacher on Amazon (it's not on TV over here!). I quite like its style but i'm not sure what it's building up to.

Ruth Negga and Dominic Cooper both have natural charm to them that make them really watchable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on July 20, 2016, 12:30:34 PM
Finished watching Shannara Chronicles on Netflix. I loved the original books and enjoyed the show for the most part. I just wish MTV hadn't been the publisher because a few of the creative choices just felt too cheesy (why is a pop song playing during the height of the finale?)


I have hopes it can improve in S2 but it looks like they will be going off book and "extending" the story. S1 was a retelling of Elfstones of Shannara, but they finished that book and left plot holes open for S2. The next book takes place a generation or so later so they may drag the current plots out a bit.


But the show does succeed in making itself very distinct from other epic fantasy such as Tolkien, which is good for the show. Smart of them to skip the first book (Sword of Shannara) as that one had a few too many parallels to Lord of the Rings and people would have been bored with it. Author Terry Brooks really brought the world into its own place in book 2/3 and the show is capitalizing on it.


The show is also refreshing in its bright colors instead of the drab scenery many other fantasy stories fall into. Feels more imaginative.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 08, 2016, 03:32:51 AM
Vice Principals - This is our home now

new comedy on HBO starring Walton Goggins and Danny McBride.
pretty funny and very entertaining.
It's about 2 vice principals gunning for that Head Principal job at their local HS.
very worth the watch so far. I think it was ep5 that aired tonight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 08, 2016, 04:01:39 AM
Do yourself a favor and watch The Night Of. I was hooked after half of the first episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 09, 2016, 12:19:12 AM
Do yourself a favor and watch The Night Of. I was hooked after half of the first episode.

On your recommendation alone, I'm going in blind on this one.
getting eps 1-4, and see that ep5 came on tonight.

I'll let you know what I think of the 1st ep whenever I get to it, and then again when I'm all caught up (assuming I get into it of course)


edit: One question though.... How the **** is James Gondolphini Executive Producer on this show?
was he working on this before he died or something?

edit2:
apparently Tony Soprano is the one that started teh project and got as far as a pilot before he passed away.

1st episode was good though. Not what I was expecting, as I was expecting another comedy, and it didn't take too long, but I realized that this wasn't that at all. I was skeptical at the opening credits TBH, but I wasn't sure what you were recommending me, and didn't bother to look up any details ahead of time.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2016, 12:43:59 PM
The Get Down

ooops, I finished part I (first 6 of 12 eps*) in 1 sitting. I really didn't expect to like this show as much as I did, considering the weird scene edits that were really prevalent in the first episode or 2 where it went from a Netflix produced show, to actual random clips from the 70's, to some soap opera looking filter, and I think there was even a low budget green screen scene in car that was really really obvious, like something out of a Grindhouse feature.

This show is part musical drama (like Empire) using mostly hip hop and disco music, with bits of "Wu-Tang" martial arts mysticism, taking place on the streets of The Bronx, NY back in the mid-late 70's, starring a group of kids trying to find their musical expression during the time period of just before disco was phased out and right as Hip Hop was being born.

oh and Jaden Smith.... LOL. what a fucking weirdo. Is he playing himself in this? I think his character is on a natural acid trip for most of the movie. But he plays it well enough in the context of the show. Which is highly entertaining, as anytime you think the story might start to drag, there is usually a musical number of some sort to pick things up and push things forward.

So I rate this as very entertaining  and worth the watch.
Just give the first ep a chance

*Part II is released in 2017
edit: I finished Part I and wrote this post at 3:30am... not sure how why it didn't post last night.
I must have fell asleep before clicking the button.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 13, 2016, 02:18:01 PM
Netflix has done such a great job so far I'll probably try anything they put out themselves so long as Adam Sandler plays no part in it. I'll probably check out Get Down once the full season is available.


I am worried about an S2 for Stranger Things. Yes, they set plenty up for future events, but I'm just worried that they will lose the flavor of the show. Everyone in the "group" is aware of what went down and I liked that separation between the groups as they each stumbled around not aware the others were too (adult, teen, and kid groups). I am worried that they will try to repeat that pattern and I worry it could fall into the old trope of no one believing the kids when it happens again. I like the classic feel of the film and how the plot unfolded, but I hope they keep away from the negative tropes of that era.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 13, 2016, 03:52:24 PM
I was hoping Stranger Things Season 2 would be completely different. I'd like to know more about the Upside Down and what happened to...you know who...but those questions I can leave up to my imagination. They should create another world and let me feast on that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2016, 04:03:54 PM
i saw someone point out that the final D&D game they played mirrored the end the show.

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The campaign was only ten hours? (The season was about 10 hours) What happened to the Prince? (What happened to Will?) And the Princess? (Eleven) and what about the flower in the cave? (The Egg inside the Upside Down.)

and it also appears that they just released the Soundtrack for the show yesterday.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 15, 2016, 11:45:13 PM
I'm bumping this because just like Stranger Things, this one deserves a watch.
I really think some of you might like a fantastical fairytale version of the history of Hip Hop.

This covers the tail end of Disco, the rise of the DJ and Hip Hop culture w/ a Wu-Tang like mysticism around it. It's part musical, part coming of age teen drama, and part historically influenced by creating "larger than life" versions of real DJ's from the era, all while being narrated by Nas as he raps the setup for each episode.

I know my man Stogi would be all for this. But all of you, if even slightly interested, should at least check out the 1st episode. This one is a little unorthodox for your typical Netflix show, but it's good.
1 more on the list of winners from Netflix.

I haven't seen everything Netflix has made, as it's tons of stuff now, and kinda hard to keep up, but most of what I have watched I have liked. The Get Down is one of the good ones.


and the soundtrack dropped as well:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/get-down-original-soundtrack/id1140679908

The Get Down

ooops, I finished part I (first 6 of 12 eps*) in 1 sitting. I really didn't expect to like this show as much as I did, considering the weird scene edits that were really prevalent in the first episode or 2 where it went from a Netflix produced show, to actual random clips from the 70's, to some soap opera looking filter, and I think there was even a low budget green screen scene in car that was really really obvious, like something out of a Grindhouse feature.

This show is part musical drama (like Empire) using mostly hip hop and disco music, with bits of "Wu-Tang" martial arts mysticism, taking place on the streets of The Bronx, NY back in the mid-late 70's, starring a group of kids trying to find their musical expression during the time period of just before disco was phased out and right as Hip Hop was being born.

oh and Jaden Smith.... LOL. what a fucking weirdo. Is he playing himself in this? I think his character is on a natural acid trip for most of the movie. But he plays it well enough in the context of the show. Which is highly entertaining, as anytime you think the story might start to drag, there is usually a musical number of some sort to pick things up and push things forward.

So I rate this as very entertaining  and worth the watch.
Just give the first ep a chance

*Part II is released in 2017
edit: I finished Part I and wrote this post at 3:30am... not sure how why it didn't post last night.
I must have fell asleep before clicking the button.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 15, 2016, 11:50:17 PM
Wow stranger things...
Telekinetic powers for the win.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 17, 2016, 05:21:12 AM
I just got done watching Get Down. I'm glad I also randomly watched Saturday Night Fever right before Get Down. They take place in the same time period. So, that was kinda cool.

Does Get Down Remind anyone else of Spider-man. I kinda wish there was a late 70s early 80s version of Spider-man. If you think about that: That was the time when New York could actually use a Spider-man.

and

Fat Annie is a definite Sith lord.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2016, 12:05:24 AM
Did you find yourself unexpectedly enjoying it for it's uniqueness in presentation and delivery, even though it wasn't as prominent towards the end as it was in the beginning... or maybe I was just used to it by then.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2016, 10:04:34 AM
And did your theory find support on a rewatch?

And if so, what was the theory?

Theory is that Elliot is in a mental institution or prison. The last episode of S1 ended with feds knocking at his door, but yet he's free and it goes unexplained. Yet, if you watch what he does every day, it seems like the life of someone incarcerated. He has a friend he eats meals with every day. His mother only wakes him up and tells him to go to sleep. He watches basketball (and the players suck). Every door he opens sounds like its made of metal. The phone he uses is very prison like. And he goes to a support group.

Looks like you were right on the money with this one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 18, 2016, 09:22:33 PM
Did you find yourself unexpectedly enjoying it for it's uniqueness in presentation and delivery, even though it wasn't as prominent towards the end as it was in the beginning... or maybe I was just used to it by then.

after I had watched it I went on lookup mode. So, I noticed the guy who directed Moulin Rouge and The Great Gatspy had directed it. I can see some of that in it. It had elements of other things that I had watched in other things, so it wasn't 100% original. I had read your take on it's weirdness and expected weirder, but really I've seen enough things to where its style didn't weird me out. It's not like it was Eraserhead.

I used to watch the Lyracist Lounge Show, so maybe them busting out into rhymes wasn't unusual to me. I thought the show was great though. Netflix keeps hitting the ball out of the park.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 19, 2016, 01:45:45 PM
And did your theory find support on a rewatch?

And if so, what was the theory?

Theory is that Elliot is in a mental institution or prison. The last episode of S1 ended with feds knocking at his door, but yet he's free and it goes unexplained. Yet, if you watch what he does every day, it seems like the life of someone incarcerated. He has a friend he eats meals with every day. His mother only wakes him up and tells him to go to sleep. He watches basketball (and the players suck). Every door he opens sounds like its made of metal. The phone he uses is very prison like. And he goes to a support group.

Looks like you were right on the money with this one.

Yup. Elliot is an unreliable narrator.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shaymin on August 19, 2016, 05:27:19 PM
Spent a good hour this morning watching race walking at the Olympics and it was strangely compelling for a meeting of the Ministry of Silly Walks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 20, 2016, 06:49:08 PM
Spent a good hour this morning watching race walking at the Olympics and it was strangely compelling for a meeting of the Ministry of Silly Walks.

I guess the record holder was out pacing everyone, ended up shitting himself, then eventually passing out, recovered, finished the race, and still got 8th place.

For all of that to happen, then he must have been shittng on everyone before he shat on himself.
Sucks he didn't place though.


But I came in here to talk about Naked & Afraid XL - 40 Days/40 Nights S2
I just marathoned the season so far, and I know it's a marketing gimmick, but homeboy that went solo was surrounded by lions, puking his brains out, probably about to **** himself, and the door to his shelter got ripped off right before the camera cut and started promo-ing the next episode. Really made it seem like lions were about to come at him, but I'm sure it was the medics trying to get in his little "fortress".

Season's been good so far though. No real breakout drama, and no major success stories, but they just barely getting by at this point. This is my kind of reality TV show.
Although I do wonder just how much interference the production crew takes when it comes to wild animals in the area. Do they scout bodies of water for piranha, gators, or other such creatures that could instantly remove a member of the show? Do they set up a perimeter for large cats, wild dogs, and other such predatory animals?
maybe they also sneak them water and a little food here an there.... who knows.

I'm sure all of the above happen at some point or another, except maybe food... but is anyone else watching this show? or regular N&A?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 21, 2016, 10:04:16 PM
I'm bumping this because just like Stranger Things, this one deserves a watch.
I really think some of you might like a fantastical fairytale version of the history of Hip Hop.

This covers the tail end of Disco, the rise of the DJ and Hip Hop culture w/ a Wu-Tang like mysticism around it. It's part musical, part coming of age teen drama, and part historically influenced by creating "larger than life" versions of real DJ's from the era, all while being narrated by Nas as he raps the setup for each episode.

I know my man Stogi would be all for this. But all of you, if even slightly interested, should at least check out the 1st episode. This one is a little unorthodox for your typical Netflix show, but it's good.
1 more on the list of winners from Netflix.

I haven't seen everything Netflix has made, as it's tons of stuff now, and kinda hard to keep up, but most of what I have watched I have liked. The Get Down is one of the good ones.


and the soundtrack dropped as well:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/get-down-original-soundtrack/id1140679908

The Get Down

ooops, I finished part I (first 6 of 12 eps*) in 1 sitting. I really didn't expect to like this show as much as I did, considering the weird scene edits that were really prevalent in the first episode or 2 where it went from a Netflix produced show, to actual random clips from the 70's, to some soap opera looking filter, and I think there was even a low budget green screen scene in car that was really really obvious, like something out of a Grindhouse feature.

This show is part musical drama (like Empire) using mostly hip hop and disco music, with bits of "Wu-Tang" martial arts mysticism, taking place on the streets of The Bronx, NY back in the mid-late 70's, starring a group of kids trying to find their musical expression during the time period of just before disco was phased out and right as Hip Hop was being born.

oh and Jaden Smith.... LOL. what a fucking weirdo. Is he playing himself in this? I think his character is on a natural acid trip for most of the movie. But he plays it well enough in the context of the show. Which is highly entertaining, as anytime you think the story might start to drag, there is usually a musical number of some sort to pick things up and push things forward.

So I rate this as very entertaining  and worth the watch.
Just give the first ep a chance

*Part II is released in 2017
edit: I finished Part I and wrote this post at 3:30am... not sure how why it didn't post last night.
I must have fell asleep before clicking the button.

Saw the first episode. I dig it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2016, 10:32:59 PM
it should continue to suck you in.

but I came in here to say that I'm on ep6 of The Night Of.

It was a little hard to get through the 2nd & 3rd eps, but that's moslty because the only time i have to watch TV during the week is either late at night, or super early in the morning, and just the intro of this show is dark, slow, w/ somber music, and at either of those times.... that almost instant sleep pill. A lot of the show is also slow, dark, moody, and also not a mix for someone just on the edge of sleepy at night, or too early in the morning.

But now that the weekend has come around again, and we get into the nit and grit (Omar in the fucking house. Jail house antics, the corruption of a good college boy, some investigative work on the case, and did I mention Omar *whistles*. I think I might have) it's picked up even though the general tone and mood of the show remains the same.

Is this show like most BBC shows, seeing as it's a US remake, where it's only 6 eps long?
I ask because I'm currently at the beginning of 6 as I type this, and wonder if I should be looking for more. And if so, what night does it come on? Sundays?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 21, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
There's 8 episodes. Tonight and next week.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2016, 11:15:43 PM
There's 8 episodes. Tonight and next week.

That's perfect, because I'm ready for ep7.
a new log was just thrown in the campfire, and now the pot is boiling.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2016, 01:41:20 AM
The Night Of part 7

Why they gotta end it like that?
There's no way they wrap this up in the next episode... has S2 been confirmed yet?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 23, 2016, 01:48:12 AM
It's a mini-series. The creators said that if there was a season 2 it would be completely different, like True Detective.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 23, 2016, 02:10:04 AM
It's a mini-series. The creators said that if there was a season 2 it would be completely different, like True Detective.

I heard True Detective went to **** in S2, but I wouldn't know, because I couldn't even make it past ep2 of S1... and tried soooo hard.

Well, either way, something major gotta happen for this to wrap up in a semi-happy ending, otherwise the only way I see this ending is with everyone finding out that he really did do it, he loves it in Prison, and just really doesn't give a **** anymore. Parents are distraught, Defense Lawyers in total disbelief, especially the female lead lawyer, after what happened in that cell... all caught on camera. and I know even I would be a little shocked, because I don't think he did it....

now we gotta wait a week... everything that fits the mold, really needs to adapt to the Netflix release method. I feel so spoiled w/ Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 23, 2016, 09:28:24 AM
I feel like it could be wrapped up nicely if he gets put on the stand, but I'm guessing he's already accepted his fate, considering the amount of evidence is against him. I just hope to see Dr. Katz again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 23, 2016, 07:40:27 PM
Finished Black Sails (so far)
Great show especially if you love Pirates But not in the stupid pirates of the Caribbean style, like actual gritty pirates that will bite your neck out... oops spoiler ;).
If you don't mind the fact that Michael bay is the Director of season one, it should be enjoyable. Just saying this I think this is the only work of Michael Bay I like...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 24, 2016, 12:01:19 AM
Finished the Get Down.

****'s dope. Mylene is incredibly sexy. Like damn...that church scene...Good God. My favorite character was Shaolin. He never backed down and was focused on his craft. You have to respect that.

The songs are great. Having Nasty Nas as a narrator was icing on the cake. It's also pretty damn funny between the drama and the relationships. Other than Diz, it's all really well acted by the main characters. I can't hate on Diz though as he was the funniest one.

Give it a shot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 24, 2016, 12:06:35 AM
Get down? whats it about?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 24, 2016, 12:14:10 AM
About a bunch of kids in 1970s Bronx, NY.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 24, 2016, 12:19:15 AM
Finished the Get Down.

****'s dope. Mylene is incredibly sexy. Like damn...that church scene...Good God. My favorite character was Shaolin. He never backed down and was focused on his craft. You have to respect that.

The songs are great. Having Nasty Nas as a narrator was icing on the cake. It's also pretty damn funny between the drama and the relationships. Other than Diz, it's all really well acted by the main characters. I can't hate on Diz though as he was the funniest one.

Give it a shot.

I knew you would like that ****. Had to be right up your alley. I wanted to talk about it, but I didn't want to give too much away, just enough to hopefully peak interest.

Get down? whats it about?

Scroll back up, I go on about it in at least 2 different wordy post.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 24, 2016, 12:34:10 AM
Yeah man. It makes me want to bust rhymes and get back into my music and writing and art.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 24, 2016, 10:19:33 PM
It looks like you can see Mylene's nipple in the church scene. Gonna have to watch that scene again. She's super hot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 25, 2016, 08:21:25 PM
Well a bunch of 30-year-old pervs! Who would have guessed?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 25, 2016, 08:46:20 PM
Use your inside voice for those things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on August 25, 2016, 08:48:55 PM
WHAT WAS THAT? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE MOANING OF PERM!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on August 25, 2016, 10:08:11 PM
Well a bunch of 30-year-old pervs! Who would have guessed?

I'm not defending Perm's nipple hunt, but you should watch the scene in question. It's setup as an innocent girl turns into sex symbol/pop star. It's jaw dropping.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: TofuFury on August 28, 2016, 11:27:27 PM
I've been watching The Great British Baking Show on Netflix, as my wife and I do enjoy cooking competitions. After watching shows like Top Chef and a little MasterChef, it's a very nice change of pace. Too many shows look for judges that make cutting remarks and punish their competitors. Instead, TGBBS is just charming and pleasant to watch. The hosts are genuine and encouraging, and all the competitors seem like nice people. Plus, it's been nice to see all sorts of bakery that I've never seen before. I highly recommend it if you're looking for a different kind of competition cooking show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 08, 2016, 03:33:32 AM
Atlanta

anyone check this out? Starring Donald Glover.
The 1st 2 eps aired tonight, and it's only a 30 min show, but this one seems interesting.
Stogi I think you'd like this, at least what I've seen of it so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 08, 2016, 03:56:02 PM
Mr. Robot S02E10

If you haven't watched this show, I suggest you click this link to show you one of the best filmed scenes in television history. Don't worry. While it's a spoiler scene, you'll have no context about what is happening, you only can make out one main character and even when you do figure out where this scene is placed, it'll be too late to even care.

https://streamable.com/tqpd

For those that have seen the show and don't like it (anything is possible I guess), this is masterful cinematography, and I suggest you click it to watch a very Stanley Kubrick-esque scene.

keep an eye on the crosswalk sign

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2016, 11:43:11 PM
I didn't want to create a thread for this.

Does anyone remember this Simpsons episode where Homer throws a bunch of business cards (or papers?) at someone and runs away?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 09, 2016, 12:22:10 AM
I'm afraid that doesn't ring a bell with me but I'm starting to lose my Simpsons knowledge. I haven't watched a lot of the first 10 or 11 seasons for maybe 4 or 5 years. Wow.

However, your description did remind me of this scene in Hot Rod. Don't know if this helps or not.  :-\

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 09, 2016, 03:55:05 AM
I didn't want to create a thread for this.

Does anyone remember this Simpsons episode where Homer throws a bunch of business cards (or papers?) at someone and runs away?

Homer vs. Dignity. Season 12, Episode 5.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 09, 2016, 06:29:48 PM
Thank you, kind sir. You are, as always, a gentleman and a scholar.

(I rewatched the episode. Still funny.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2016, 01:44:52 PM
Mr. Robot S02E10

https://streamable.com/tqpd (https://streamable.com/tqpd)
keep an eye on the crosswalk sign


I didn't even notice the countdown. and the image was so small that it was hard to tell the details of what went down, so here is an enlarged zoom-in
https://imgur.com/q7zRgZD (https://imgur.com/q7zRgZD)

looks like Darlene may have survived. and if I remember correctly, the FBI had no idea who she was in relation to the guy they were actually looking for. Although, now she's seen her face up close, so now she really has a reason to be ultra paranoid.
Dark Army was stupid for being so bold in the slow walk-up for the kill shot, but I guess ultimately, they got their target, so mission accomplished. Although, had they just taken out the FBI woman, most of the investigation would have gathered dust, since she is the only one heavily pursuing them.


Next 2-3 episodes should be pretty damn intense though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 10, 2016, 02:24:14 PM
There's only the finale left. It's a two-parter.

That countdown takes the scene to the upper echelons of great directing.

But let's talk about Dom (the FBI woman). There's been plenty of opportunities to kill her. She even brings it up herself after the massacre at the hotel, stating she should have died but instead the guys decided to kill themselves. So my theory is that White Rose likes her for some reason. Maybe that moment they bonded was enough to spare her life in his/her eyes, because if the Dark Army wanted her dead, she'd be dead.

And let's not forget that the Dark Army is also hacking the FBI but only killed Cisco (and possibly Darlene) once his face was plastered on screens everywhere. Why that fact is important is it gives the Director of the FBI (the one who ordered the BOLO for Cisco) plausible deniability for Cisco's murder. It's a mistake he used the media, rather than an attempt to warn the Dark Army covertly that one of the FBI agents is close to finding a high valued asset. And let's not forget his **** up already "burning" a house that FSociety has been using rather than staking it out to see if they return. This makes me think the Director is a mole.

Darlene's fucked. If she isn't dead, than she is explicitly linked to FSociety through the video tapes at Cisco's house. So there's not a chance she can lie. I wonder what Elliot does.

Speaking of Elliot, he traced the phone to someone who the bodyguard knows, which makes me think we should know, yet he reacted like it was a shock to see the address. This makes me think it's not Tyrell calling. Rather someone fucking with his grieving wife. Who hates his wife? How about the guy who's wife Tyrell murdered? I forget his name.

And last but not least, we have Angela who is turning state. She gets approached by two people as soon as she's done with Elliot. I didn't know this but /r/MrRobot found those two people in almost every scene Angela is in when in public. There seated behind her at the bar, at dinner, on the sidewalk etc. This blew my mind. Now those two people confront her. Who do they work for? People say the FBI because Dom mentions that she's been watching her for months. And that's my guess as well. But why confront her now, considering she was about to confess? Maybe it's because Cisco face was everywhere, so Dom, thinking she might lose another high value asset, decides to detain her in case circumstances change and puts Angela in danger.

And yo...what the **** is Stage 2? I love this show. So much to speculate!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2016, 02:57:38 PM
Stage 2 is Season 3.

you got a link to that Angela thing?
I don't want to get lost in Reddit trying to find it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 10, 2016, 03:29:20 PM
http://imgur.com/a/IxKUd
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2016, 03:39:19 PM
wow, never even noticed them.... but this is why I go online for these shows. The Internet is always pointing out the little details that are so easily missed by many.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on September 10, 2016, 03:57:16 PM
Right? I don't even know how they noticed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on September 11, 2016, 03:44:38 AM
I'm giving ER a second playthrough. 

Currently up to season 8.  It saddens me that the level of quality in this show is rarely seen in current shows. 

I am bracing myself for Mark's death.  I'm not the kind to get too emotional in TV shows but that episode absolutely destroyed me.  My body is not ready.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 11, 2016, 09:34:49 PM
I've been burning through Narcos today on Netflix.

I've been meaning to get around to this show since it first came out, and now that S2 just dropped, that motivated me to try and get caught up just before all the fall shows launch in these upcoming weeks.

For those that don't know what it's about, it's about Pablo Escobar vs the governments of both Columbia and the US during and after his rise to top five richest men in the world in Forbes Magazine on the back of the introduction of Cocaine production and smuggling into the US.

Based on the actual story of the rise of the Cocaine Cartel out of Columbia.
Lots of subtitles as most of the dialogue is in Spanish, but a good watch so far. I'm on S1E8 so far, and possibly will finish S1 before the night is over.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on September 12, 2016, 07:16:09 PM
Watching agents of shield Season 3 right now and Better call Saul season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 16, 2016, 12:17:27 AM
Project Runway S16... e1?

no idea really, they mentioned it was Season 16 I think... but there is a girl on there that literally laughs like a barking seal. and she keeps laughing and laughing and laughing... OH MY EARS!!!

that was the 1st and last time that show graces any television I am in the presence of.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 16, 2016, 01:15:11 AM
Jonathan Strange and Mr Norrell

Very good BBC show with well written characters. English Magicians in the Napoleonic era. Watch it on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 16, 2016, 01:34:09 AM
Angie Tribeca

Not really feeling it after the first episode, it is a bit funny, but it is pretty low hanging fruit but diverse level of comedy. It is best described at Meme:the cop show. It just blasts by one joke after another barely to stop for breath or really setting anything up.

As much as I like Rashida Jones, if things don't pick up in an episode or two I am dropping it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 16, 2016, 01:44:04 AM
Angie Tribeca

Not really feeling it after the first episode, it is a bit funny, but it is pretty low hanging fruit but diverse level of comedy. It is best described at Meme:the cop show. It just blasts by one joke after another barely to stop for breath or really setting anything up.

As much as I like Rashida Jones, if things don't pick up in an episode or two I am dropping it.

It's basically Naked Gun 2016: Rapid Fire
It's humorous, and at times hilarious, but it gets kinda old in repeated sessions.
i.e. Not binge-able.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 16, 2016, 02:27:03 AM
Fair enough.

---

Another thing I have been watching and finally caught up on is JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure, an Anime. The first 2 seasons is macho manly beefcake more ripped than Goku dudes fighting vampires in England then later around Europe. Some of the people are so manly to the point that I figured I might as well call one of the supporting male characters a girl since he does all the stereotypical stuff like crying and screaming alot in the background while explaining the situation.

Females barely feature in the show, but when they do they can be pretty badass. The show is rather female friendly as you have dudes running around half naked most of the time in bearing mid-riffs at the minimum. The girls are far more modest and dignified.

The fights are cool and don't come off as bullshit. Each fight builds off the last carrying learnt lessons forward. They also talks alot because when fighting talking is a free action. The fights in season 2 aren't as good starting out as they feel a bit BS but things get alot cleverer as you get towards the end.

There is a lot of humour as absorb just how bizarre everything is and how absurdly manly everything is.

I would recommend most people to give it a couple of episodes to see if they like it. If nothing else you are in for some bizarre adventures.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 16, 2016, 02:46:31 AM
I've been binge watching Narcos still, and for as interesting as all this is, the one thing that has shocked me the most is that the black man, nick-named Blackie, who is not a main character, but an occasionally and briefly seen henchman of Pablo Escobar, has survived well into the 2nd season despite all the people around him that have died, and all the drama that has surrounded his core group of trust worthy henchmen.

THE BLACK MAN WAS NOT ONLY NOT THE FIRST TO DIE, BUT HE IS ACTUALLY STILL LIVING!!!

It's truly amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2016, 01:49:28 AM
I started watching Supergirl because it's on Netflix, and I got tired of hate-watching The Walking Dead.

Supergirl is okay. Some of the effects are good, some are bad. Some of the acting is good, some is bad. Melissa Benoist is fine as the titular character. She could stand to learn how to throw a punch though I'm undecided after two episodes if that's the point. If, by the middle of the season, she still doesn't look like she knows what she's doing, it's going to get really hard to finish this.

I know changing a characters' race tends to be a sticking point with people (see Zendaya rumored as Mary Jane which I could go off on*). For me, it's one of those things that I think, "Hmm, that's kind of weird" since I'm used to picturing a character a certain way then I get over it. That said, my issue with Jimmy Olsen isn't that he's a black dude; it's that he's this tall, good-looking dude. I'm getting the impression that Mehcad Brooks was cast because he's an attractive man who can easily be "shipped" with Kara later. There's already a budding love triangle with Winn. Jimmy Olsen is written as this handsome, confident man. How did they get everything about Jimmy Olsen wrong? Olsen is the quintessential dork; he isn't supposed to be cool.

I think that's my main issue with the show. Unless the writers are setting up one hell of a red herring, they changed a beloved fan favorite entirely for a romantic payoff later. Supergirl feels like it's pushing hard for a female audience that probably isn't there, and it reeks of studio executive interference. Since the lead is female, it's as if they felt the show has to be a certain way so it's filled with cliches and tropes that just infuriate me because it's 2016 and everyone should know better. I wasn't a huge fan of Jessica Jones, but I liked that it respected the source material and the writers didn't feel the need to make it "girly" just because it focuses on a female character.

Otherwise, Supergirl is merely okay so far. I'm having difficulty taking Laura Benenti (Alura/Astra) seriously because her Melania Trump impersonation was dead-on, but that's no fault of the show.

*side-note: I didn't want to go on a tangent about Zendaya. Maybe I'll post my thoughts in the Marvel thread
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 18, 2016, 02:08:03 AM
I watch Supergirl to see Kara mess around as she is just a great character. I had my initial misgivings about Cat Grant, but she works well against Kara's bubbliness. I also rather enjoy seeing how they go about writing out Superman/hide him.

Melissa does need to learn to punch as you said and I have a short laugh when ever they show her "Flying really fast face" as it just doesn't work.

The love triangle element frustrates me as Kara gets along with Winn far better than Olsen, but Kara is edging on Olsen because he is tall, dark and handsome. Winn is going to become a Supervillian at this rate as he is desperately frustrated and has been looking for a Kara surrogate(Which he found for a short while) to notice him for more than her tech dude.

The Flash Crossover episode is great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2016, 04:44:57 PM
I'll have to pay more attention to Benoist's flying-really-fast face. I didn't think much of it. I expected her hair to be blown back more. Then again, no one's face would ever look that calm and good-looking when traveling that fast.

Some additional thoughts:

1. It's nice to see Chyler Leigh still getting work.

2. Are they setting Hank Henshaw up to eventually be Cyborg Superman? I suppose if the DC TV Universe (is there an official name for this?) ignores the Death of Superman storyline, it doesn't matter if Henshaw is black. Otherwise, the whole Henshaw pretending to be Superman to destroy his reputation doesn't work.

3. My understanding is that Winn created Supergirl's costume. It's damage resistant and bulletproof except the cape isn't? It sounds like the writers really wanted Supergirl's cape to be Kal-El's blankie but had no real explanation for why that needed to happen.

4. Why is Winn working at a magazine? And how is he getting all of this high-tech stuff?

5. Winn also hacks into local and federal government computer systems without any apprehension as if he doesn't face decades in prison if he's caught. He's just using his work computer. I suppose the power of boners really is that strong.

6. It's weird to me that Kara, James, and Winn openly talk about Kara being Supergirl in front of fucking everyone all the time, and only Alex is like, "Hey, maybe don't?"

7. Way to give up Superman's identity like it isn't a matter of global security, James...

8. Calista Flockhart is trying really hard to impersonate Meryl Streep's impersonation of Anna Wintour. She's not doing a bad job; she's not doing a great job either.

9. I don't know why Supergirl ever moves at regular human speed when fighting bad guys. I know they're limited by budgets, but it's still weird and inconsistent. Also, she just watches Reactron fly away and doesn't even bother to attempt to chase after him.

I don't know if I'm going to finish watching this show. There are a lot of little things that are just annoying me. Unlike other shows, Supergirl didn't draw me in from the beginning so I don't have the same urge to continue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2016, 06:46:53 PM
don't take it so seriously, forgive some of the effects and "hand-waving"  and its actually becomes entertaining.

#2 - No, but... redacted

#8 - I liked Calista, not so much at first, but she'll grow on you.

Theres an upcoming Flash crossover. great moment for everyone.

#9 Superman is inconsistent himself as a character in every medium he's in. So its no surprise that Supergirl would be too. If they handled everything faster than the speed of a bulllet, there would almost never be any conflict. But consistency happens to be one of Superman's biggest complaints for being a boring character. Too many powers, and yet only as powerful as he needs to be for whatever story he is in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 18, 2016, 06:58:24 PM
I always felt that the Super-folks' biggest challenge should have been how to NOT kill people in their line of work. Like moving at human speeds is difficult for them and learning how to use their powers on a setting other than annihilate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 18, 2016, 07:04:31 PM
that might have made them more interesting, to watch the moment to moment struggle to not treat our world like everything is moving in slow motion and like everything isn't made of tissue paper.
But I imagine that would have gotten old rather quickly.

Which is exactly why they keep introducing increasingly powerful characters, and then nerf the superpowers to make the conflict from being totally lopsided.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 18, 2016, 07:16:01 PM
don't take it so seriously, forgive some of the effects and "hand-waving"  and its actually becomes entertaining.
I don't watch a lot of television. I have a finite amount of time to devote to shows so I want to make it count. I have heard good things about the Flash crossover outside of NWR so I'll try to stick it out. Supergirl is riddled with problems. Individually, they're tolerable. Collectively, they're distracting. Casting for Jimmy Olsen is such an infinite facepalm.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 20, 2016, 03:05:59 AM
GOTHAM S3E1 **SPOILER ALERT**

BATMAN was on Gotham tonight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 23, 2016, 07:51:11 PM
GOTHAM S3E1 **SPOILER ALERT**

BATMAN was on Gotham tonight.

hmm, I need to finish out S2 on Netflix.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 23, 2016, 10:39:39 PM
GOTHAM S3E1 **SPOILER ALERT**

BATMAN was on Gotham tonight.

Crazy, We are starting S2 on Netflix soon. Excited to get back into that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 23, 2016, 10:52:24 PM
Both of you quoted my post... so I'll just assume you read what it said. {in the hidden text} lol
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 25, 2016, 09:47:33 PM
GOTHAM S3E1 **SPOILER ALERT**

BATMAN was on Gotham tonight.

Seriously? 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 26, 2016, 02:35:56 AM
GOTHAM S3E1 **SPOILER ALERT**

BATMAN was on Gotham tonight.

Seriously? 

seriously (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29156.msg903964#msg903964)


but since i'm in here, did anyone watch Lethal Weapon the TV show?
I thought this was actually pretty good, and got a few legit laughs that were out loud. seriously. I was entertained.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 27, 2016, 01:47:33 AM
Glad to hear good things about Lethal Weapon. I was on the verge of writing it off as a cheap knock-off cashing in on a popular movie series. I'll check it out once we are done with the current line of shows on out to-watch list.

Anyone watch the new MacGyver show at all?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 27, 2016, 01:56:37 AM
MacGuyver is in my queue, along with The Exorcist. I'll let you know how they are when I get to them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on September 27, 2016, 08:48:25 AM
Apparently MacGyver is awful. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 27, 2016, 04:41:34 PM
Apparently MacGyver is awful.
It was pretty to see from the trailer I saw. MacGyver is many things, a hip douche he is not.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on September 27, 2016, 10:45:48 PM
Richard Dean Anderson never needed a sniper for cover.  He is superior on that basis alone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2016, 12:58:27 AM
I just watched the first ~10 minutes, and it seems like it's trying to be the new Burn Notice, with a hi-tech (james bond-ish) twist.

I barely remember the old MacGuyver show from the 80's outside of being able to improvise the impossible out of almost anything, so I can't really compare what I was just watching now to the OG GOAT Improvisor of then. But I might finish later. I was just killing about 10 minutes while I was waiting for something else I wanted to watch to be ready to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 28, 2016, 01:38:47 AM
Burn Notice is a good show. It just went maybe 1.5 seasons too long with so many false endings and the revolving door of big bads. They didn't build up enough side characters to drag it out that long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2016, 11:21:51 PM
i just finished the episode and the show is a lot more like that show Scorpion where things just always seem to work out because I was so smart that how could it not....!?

not really a show that interest me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 28, 2016, 11:34:32 PM
2 Episodes of Agents of SHIELD in so far and Ghost Rider has been pretty damn good.
actually the 1st 2 episodes have been pretty good as well.

Shotgun Axe finally makes it's debut, Ghost Rider flames up, Daisy Quakes till she breaks, May finally shows some emotion, and we now now something about the new director that probably wasn't expected.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 29, 2016, 01:18:54 AM
I didn't expect Ghost Rider to show up as I don't look up any information before something I am going to watch comes out. I really, really wanted to see Nic Cage to show up and literally steal the show with his insanity. Obviously wasn't a possibility as I don't think Cage does TV even if they had the money but it would have blew everyone's Face Off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 02, 2016, 11:51:44 PM
Luke Cage - Netflix

Another winner from Netflix and Marvel.
It can be a little slow at times as Luke himself is very calm in his delivery of.... well, everything.
But fortunately for him everyone around him was great (outside of the cheesyness of Shades who I liked, but thought he wasn't quite the look for the role his character he played), and quite memorable.
The musical cameos were a good touch and one special guest appearance (as himself), which turned into a multi-guest appearance (as themselves) was really well done.
I'm actually hoping to hear about it tomorrow morning on the radio.

edit:
There may be some that think DD sets the standard, and that JJ had a few too many episodes, but I think Luke Cage did well on the balancing act of competent progressive story with plenty of references to real world people/drama/events, action beats, musical direction, overall MCU connectivity and moderate pacing.
Hell, I could even see a fashion trend coming out of this show if marketed correctly. LOL

actually I should probably jump on that..... money making opportunity for real.

final edit:
This show is unapologetically black, from the liberal but natural use of the N-word, the musical selection, obviously the cast, but also the direct correlation to the present problems on-going in today's society, and I love not only Netflix for making it, but Marvel for allowing it.

One of the things that sets the MCU apart from the DCCU, is that it takes place in the "real world". Real locations, real cities, and when it can, as seen countless times in Luke Cage, referencing real people, events and problems.
They took great care to reflect the actual societal make-up of the region with heavy focus on Black and Latino communities in this show.


It's no wonder Netflix went down yesterday, as I'm sure this show is doing quite well for Marvel/Netflix right now.
This show may not have had the highest highs of the Netflix MCU shows (that goes to parts of DD S1 and S2, especially The Punisher in S2), but it wasn't far behind, and certainly more consistent, IMO.


One of the best things about this show was that it wasn't just about Luke, or his villain, or this other character or that other character. It was about all of them, and the town it self. the entire community, as a whole. Now I could just be on a Luke Cage Marvel Netflix high right now, but this was a good show.


Stranger Things is still probably my favorite thing Netflix has done, but that takes nothing away from Luke Cage.
I can't wait for a season 2 or a follow-up in whatever form comes after The Defenders, and with Netflix ramping up for more original shows, I really hope that bumps us up to 3-4 Marvel shows a year.


Next year we have Iron Fist S1, followed by The Defenders, and possibly even DD S3
2018 could be JJ S2, The Punisher S1, and LC S2.

With the amount of references and foreshadowing done in Luke Cage, I wouldn't be surprised to see a Heroes for Hire show combining JJ, LC & IF into one show w/ Misty and Colleen who maybe split to their own show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2016, 04:39:17 PM
Westworld is GORGEOUS. The music and visuals is fantastic, and despite the (appropriate, but some may consider it as excessive) nudity it's the little details that's got me interested to see more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 04, 2016, 09:55:07 PM
Westworld!!!!

The acting is just perfect. They give all the Hosts that creepy feeling by having the actors kill almost all those micro-expressions. They pick the "Emotion" they want to express and put it on like a mask.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 05, 2016, 12:49:55 AM
Westworld is GORGEOUS. The music and visuals is fantastic, and despite the (appropriate, but some may consider it as excessive) nudity it's the little details that's got me interested to see more.


Remember Game of Thrones was much more heavy on nudity in the first 2-3 seasons than it has been in the more recent few. HBO seems to use sex to help draw a crowd and keep them held long enough for the story and characters to hook you.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 05, 2016, 04:23:38 AM
Rest easy in knowing the nudity seen so far is non-sexual.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 05, 2016, 05:00:51 AM
Westworld is GORGEOUS. The music and visuals is fantastic, and despite the (appropriate, but some may consider it as excessive) nudity it's the little details that's got me interested to see more.


Remember Game of Thrones was much more heavy on nudity in the first 2-3 seasons than it has been in the more recent few. HBO seems to use sex to help draw a crowd and keep them held long enough for the story and characters to hook you.

That's true even going back as far as The Wire (the decreasing nudity over time part, at least; that show never drew a crowd until well after it ended).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 05, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
Rest easy in knowing the nudity seen so far is non-sexual.

Non-sexual nudity? Then what's the point? Hard pass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 05, 2016, 03:00:11 PM
Rest easy in knowing the nudity seen so far is non-sexual.

Except the one scene with the black guy with Teddy where you can some people at it in the mirror...


The acting is just perfect. They give all the Hosts that creepy feeling by having the actors kill almost all those micro-expressions. They pick the "Emotion" they want to express and put it on like a mask.

The scene right at the end where Dolores goes back online and is extremely emotional, then completely drains herself of all of them when the security guard says "no emotional affect" is just chilling. Amazing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 06, 2016, 07:46:39 PM
I missed that little detail. Was a bit more focused on the Narrative than random background boobs. Things like rape, murder, mass murder.

Now if you really want something hot, there is girl on girl kiss. It's also creepy as.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 06, 2016, 09:42:55 PM
Question:  Anyone watch the new CW DC shows?  Are the new seasons interesting?  Or at least the first episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 07, 2016, 03:28:39 AM
Is it really nudity if they're fucking machines?

Also, do you actually care?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 07, 2016, 07:36:26 PM
Question:  Anyone watch the new CW DC shows?  Are the new seasons interesting?  Or at least the first episodes.

Arrow is the best episode of that show I've seen for a long time.  I was "this" close to not bothering, but if it keeps up how it started then I'll be up for some more.

Flash was a bit divisive.  I actually enjoyed it, and it had what I would say was the best spectacle fight scene the show has ever had.  The whole Flashpoint angle is still up in the air.   Either way, I had a very good time with it too. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 07, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
WestWorld is fantastic. I've seen the original and that certainly felt like more of a park gone wrong. This is diving into the moral groundwork that the original only glanced over. I really hope this isn't one season show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2016, 01:04:44 AM
I've tries to watch WestWorld 3 times now and I don't think I've made it past the first 5 minutes.... I have no idea what it's about, and I'm going in blind due to hype of others that know what it is, but I am determined to watch the 1st episode sometime before the 2nd one airs.

My reason for failure to watch is it's always been late at night, and after I watch other shows I'm already invested in... so it kinda became the lullaby show. totally on accident though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2016, 01:16:50 AM
The first episode starts out drab and really begins to get going around the 20-minute mark when Ed Harris is introduced. At that point, it's entertaining till the final scene.

The second episode is already out. It continues the mystery and intrigue while splicing in some action and suspense. There is one plot-line in particular, Ed Harris's, where I really need to know where it's going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 09, 2016, 04:25:27 PM
I don't understand how in Flash, Barry can tinker with the timelines as much as he has recently and those changes don't tinker over to other series (especially Legends).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 09, 2016, 07:50:49 PM
Plugabugz:  This is typical comic book logic.  Events in single series comics rarely have effects on the main universe unless a crossover event is going on.  Think about it...there is no way a different writing teams in comics can come together and make sure every series references and draws story ideas from each other perfectly. 

So in the same way the stories in the ongoing TV series only reference each other when a crossover event is going on.  You should be thankful actually, because it means you can just enjoy one series at a time.

Personally, if I every managed DC or Marvel, I would either A) Scrape every individual comic series and just make a singular DC universe series which would be 2-3 comics a week that could tell a story using any characters, but then I would chart out a 1/4 of a years stories at the same time and make sure all the writers relate to each other. 

If that couldn't easily work, I would isolate the stories, but then have one DC universe comic that told big stories references all the characters working together.  Imagine if CW didn't have 4 different series of television, but had one DC universe series that aired every day, and could use ALL the characters (but didn't have to.)  That would be perfect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 09, 2016, 11:56:48 PM
Star Wars had it going like that before Disney bought them. All of the book authors were collaborating together with some overseers at Lucasfilm to make sure all of the stories told a coherent narrative. It is even more aligned now that Disney took over because all of the comics, movies, shows, cartoons, and games are considered cannon.


So if they can do it with Star Wars, they can do it with Marvel. It would take a bit to realign everything, but it could be done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 10, 2016, 03:54:46 PM
The premise of Lucifer is absolutely ridiculous, yet Tom Ellis alone holds the whole show together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: supermario2k on October 10, 2016, 04:53:02 PM
Star Wars had it going like that before Disney bought them. All of the book authors were collaborating together with some overseers at Lucasfilm to make sure all of the stories told a coherent narrative. It is even more aligned now that Disney took over because all of the comics, movies, shows, cartoons, and games are considered cannon.


So if they can do it with Star Wars, they can do it with Marvel. It would take a bit to realign everything, but it could be done.


Don't you come in here and remind people George Lucas is actually a genius when they all want to keep hating him for Jar Jar and Greedo firing a shot that never had any impact on the story whatsover. You keep those nice thoughts about Lucas off the internet where they do not belong.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 10, 2016, 11:26:15 PM
I know that comment was meant in jest, but actually, I understand it had little to do with Lucas and more the team of people at Lucasfilm Licensing. I'm not sure he had a whole lot to do with what was going on in the books other than occasional pointers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 10, 2016, 11:38:49 PM
Well, if I remember the Timothy Zahn books were blessed by Lucas to be actual cannon, but beyond that I think the marketing just said if you wrote a Star Wars book it had to movie forward in time.  Moving forward is much easier in explaining inconsistencies. 

However, I disagree that Disney is being successful with how they are making every Star Wars franchise consistent.  The prequel/clone wars/and Rebels stuff although are all good just seem to be making the timeline too recent when compared to the Original Trilogy.  Granted, Lucas himself first made this mistake by presenting the Jedi as a lost religion and also pushing the clone wars which ended the Jedi rule less than a generation away from the events. 

Anyway, it makes it seem like happenings and events in the Star Wars universe are getting too crowded together.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 11, 2016, 12:18:50 AM
All of the adult novels were considered cannon outside of a select few (this is pre-Disney).


I am sure the Empire outlawed even the mention of Jedi, further helping to wipe them from memory. Can't be a part of pop culture if the media is forbidden to talk about it, right? 30 years would feasibly be enough time for them to become virtually "forgotten". Since New Hope was primarily from Luke's point of view, you can see how he would have little knowledge of Jedi since his Uncle refused to even talk about them.


It is getting a little dicey with the Jedi still existing to a certain capacity in Rebels. Jedi need to all be dead except for Yoda and Obi-wan for the purge to have it's full effect.


We do need to see more from the post-Return of the Jedi world to help broaden the world of Force Awakens. I would also argue that this is more reason why we need to see the Knights of the Old Republic/Tales of the Jedi/Tales of the Sith times come back. Rumor has it they may make Knights of the Old Republic cannon soon, which would allow the world to breathe a bit more without rehashing the exact same characters from the movies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: supermario2k on October 11, 2016, 11:00:02 AM
All of the adult novels were considered cannon outside of a select few (this is pre-Disney).


I am sure the Empire outlawed even the mention of Jedi, further helping to wipe them from memory. Can't be a part of pop culture if the media is forbidden to talk about it, right? 30 years would feasibly be enough time for them to become virtually "forgotten". Since New Hope was primarily from Luke's point of view, you can see how he would have little knowledge of Jedi since his Uncle refused to even talk about them.


It is getting a little dicey with the Jedi still existing to a certain capacity in Rebels. Jedi need to all be dead except for Yoda and Obi-wan for the purge to have it's full effect.


We do need to see more from the post-Return of the Jedi world to help broaden the world of Force Awakens. I would also argue that this is more reason why we need to see the Knights of the Old Republic/Tales of the Jedi/Tales of the Sith times come back. Rumor has it they may make Knights of the Old Republic cannon soon, which would allow the world to breathe a bit more without rehashing the exact same characters from the movies.


In addition to all that about Palpatine controlling the media, let's not forget he was a super powerful witch with mind control powers to wash over people a spell of forgetfulness. Okay not literally that but you know what I mean, he had the whole senate under his Sith powers, its conceivable that he could have use his Sith powers to make people forget the Jedi.

Also Obi Wan said, "Darth Vader, who was a pupil of mine before he turned to evil, helped the Emperor hunt down and kill all the Jedi." meaning that it was well established the events happened in Obi Wan's lifetime. He was in his 60's at the time, so yeah 30 years seems about right.



To Stratos: yeah most of my comment was sarcasm but it was not in jest, I honestly do think Lucas was brilliant and that the haters are just butt hurt they realized the creator of their special magic story didn't have the same emotional attachment to it as they did. Hence why they use the phrase he raped their childhood, admitting they are butthurt by his actions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 11, 2016, 05:35:37 PM
Supergirl.

Great.  Excellent start for a new season on a new network. Superman was great too.  Was probably a better episode than all of season one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 11, 2016, 07:37:46 PM
Mr Robot: Season 2

God this just ramps up the series even more! The writing, the plot, the acting, the twists, all of it is perfect! Couldn't ask for a better TV show!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 11, 2016, 07:57:40 PM
No Brandon Ruth.  :-X
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 11, 2016, 07:59:25 PM
Still fantastic. :P
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 17, 2016, 05:47:53 PM
I finished iZombie S2 and it was a fun season, though I'm worried it is about to get into super weird territory with what was revealed in the season finale.


Started Gotham S2 and I'm rather disappointed in it so far because of all the hype I heard. Will keep with it, but there are some weird choices so far.


My wife and I are going to watch Arrow S4 and Flash S2 in tandem. And the first few of Arrow are promising, but I know it will be a mixed ending from what I hear.


We finished S6 of Walking Dead, and boy does the show feel like it has re-found its footing. Plenty of thrills and the wordy monologues were much more succinct than previous seasons. Great finale and I am very pumped for S7. Seems like the major characters are actually back in danger again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2016, 01:43:25 AM
I finished iZombie S2 and it was a fun season, though I'm worried it is about to get into super weird territory with what was revealed in the season finale.

what happened? please refresh me.

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Started Gotham S2 and I'm rather disappointed in it so far because of all the hype I heard. Will keep with it, but there are some weird choices so far.

But it's sooooo good. you gotta embrace it for what it is, and just go for the ride.

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My wife and I are going to watch Arrow S4 and Flash S2 in tandem. And the first few of Arrow are promising, but I know it will be a mixed ending from what I hear.

Arrow... better than S3? matter of opinion, but certainly worse than S1 or 2
The Flash, another quality season of entertainment

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We finished S6 of Walking Dead, and boy does the show feel like it has re-found its footing. Plenty of thrills and the wordy monologues were much more succinct than previous seasons. Great finale and I am very pumped for S7. Seems like the major characters are actually back in danger again.

S6 got me into the whole show again. Unfortuneately S1 & 2 of Fear the Walking Dead couldn't carry the torch in the off season.

and because it hasn't been mentioned yet, but Agents of SHIELD has been good so far this season.
Season 2 level start. Ghost Rider has been great. Show has been on hit so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 18, 2016, 03:39:15 PM
The best show based on a comic book on TV today is....... I can't believe i'd actually say this, but it's actually Lucifer.

The show has improved so dramatically; acknowledging the ridiculousness of its premise and jumping headfirst into the comedy. Tom Ellis is as perfect in the role as Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 18, 2016, 06:14:26 PM
I finished iZombie S2 and it was a fun season, though I'm worried it is about to get into super weird territory with what was revealed in the season finale.

what happened? please refresh me.

Max Rager release party turns into a zombie fest and a lot of the side characters get killed off that I had hopes for. I like the new BF for Liv and I had hoped that the daughter of the Max Rager CEO would turn a new leaf since he abandoned her as a zombie. I don't like those choices, but can live with them. The weirdness was Liv discovering the woman from the company buying Max Rager was actually a zombie and she was planning to turn Seattle into the "zombie capital of the world". This just seems like it could get way too weird too fast for me. I don't want them to diverge too far from the formula they already have going for the show.

Started Gotham S2 and I'm rather disappointed in it so far because of all the hype I heard. Will keep with it, but there are some weird choices so far.

But it's sooooo good. you gotta embrace it for what it is, and just go for the ride.


Okay, I'll admit that I'm mostly bothered with the Joker 'origin' story, just feels wrong to hint that the Joker's MO/style was jacked by a previous guy. Aside from that it has been quite the fun ride, and I am actually enjoying Barbara as a villain.


My wife and I are going to watch Arrow S4 and Flash S2 in tandem. And the first few of Arrow are promising, but I know it will be a mixed ending from what I hear.[/size]


Arrow... better than S3? matter of opinion, but certainly worse than S1 or 2
The Flash, another quality season of entertainment

Agree with you for both of these shows.


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We finished S6 of Walking Dead, and boy does the show feel like it has re-found its footing. Plenty of thrills and the wordy monologues were much more succinct than previous seasons. Great finale and I am very pumped for S7. Seems like the major characters are actually back in danger again.

S6 got me into the whole show again. Unfortuneately S1 & 2 of Fear the Walking Dead couldn't carry the torch in the off season.[/size]


Pity to hear Fear TWD has been iffy, but it had a lot of expectations riding on it and there was a serious danger of retreading TWD plot points.

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and because it hasn't been mentioned yet, but Agents of SHIELD has been good so far this season.
Season 2 level start. Ghost Rider has been great. Show has been on hit so far.


I am excited to see Ghost Rider, but will probably wait until the complete season hits Netflix considering all of the other shows we are juggling right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 21, 2016, 01:51:01 AM
Is anybody on here watching Atlanta?  Stogi? I know you've been watching this show... right?

‘Atlanta’ Walks a Line Between Magic Realism and Keeping It Real
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/arts/television/atlanta-has-brilliant-characters-and-some-of-the-best-acting-on-tv.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/23/arts/television/atlanta-has-brilliant-characters-and-some-of-the-best-acting-on-tv.html?_r=0)

It's almost like a day in the life style show, where the comedy is quite subtle, life is just happening for these people, and you can just kinda relate to the characters, the situations and their reactions to them. It's kinda hard to really describe what the show is, as it just is what it wants to be when it's on. Just read the article up above, it describes it better than I can...

"The most inevitable description of “Atlanta” tags it as another one of those shows about nothing. But that actually frees it to do anything."

and the last 3 episodes does exactly that... anything but what you were expecting. LOL


edit: For those of you that have been watching!!! *context only provided for those that have seen the latest episode*
https://www.instagram.com/officialmarcusmiles/ (https://www.instagram.com/officialmarcusmiles/)


(https://igcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t51.2885-15/s1080x1080/e35/14714505_538653259669561_7173274491663941632_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTM2NTM2ODM1MTE4Njk3MTE1NQ%3D%3D.2)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on October 24, 2016, 01:58:05 AM
If Mr. Rodgers did a travelogue, this is what you'd get: Somewhere Street (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somewhere_Street). I found this on one of my local digital channels that helpfully shows NHK, a Japanese news network. Someone walks around a town with a steadycam as calm music plays and a person offscreen makes first person observations which are not always informative, but are somehow endearing ("I see mountains in the distance. It is so beautiful here. It really was an artisan district, wasn't it?") and then interacts with some locals who tell what they're doing, what they make at their business, what they're drinking at the outdoor cafe, and so on.


I met former women baseball stars in Japan, saw an outdoor performer earning tips for doing the tango in Argentina, and chatted with a regular Aussie bloke who was working on his dune buggy. It's not the most informative show, but it's neat seeing non-touristy areas the commoners. I could see explicatives making it worthwhile.


Osaka, Japan (https://youtu.be/qkasRh2bvUw)


Cefalù, Italy (https://youtu.be/EMNzDakEvTM)


Antwerp, Belgium (https://youtu.be/JpQU4MltM7k)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 24, 2016, 11:56:59 AM
The Walking Dead 0701 - 10/10
That. Was. Brutal. Nice swerves, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 24, 2016, 12:03:29 PM
This is awesome, Zap.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on October 24, 2016, 01:59:48 PM
The Walking Dead 0701 - 10/10
That. Was. Brutal. Nice swerves, too.


I wasn't nearly as up on the finale of season 6 as others.


The idea - revealing a serious threat for main characters while exposing the new world as something bigger than individual pockets of survivors - was great, but the pacing felt poor and some of the choices Rick & co. made felt our of character. The execution (pun probably not intended?) of that final episode was just a huge disappointment, especially since they'd been working up to the confrontation for significant parts of the season.


With all of that belly-aching out of the way, I look forward to seeing what happens... next year... when Netflix puts season 7 online.  Here's hoping the writers don't pull another bullshit pretend to kill Glenn but then reveal that he crawled under a garbage bin type of moment where people feel like there should be intense change and development in where the series can head, but then it gets undone for no good reason and everything is back to status quo.


(Now bowing out of this thread to delay spoilers.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: supermario2k on October 24, 2016, 02:33:26 PM
Has anyone seen that new Lethal Weapon series? I had my reservations at first but it's actually kinda good. Not as good as the movies but it works I think.
I only watched the first two episodes but I like it so far.



I also finally got to season 4 of Downton Abby, that show is a roller coaster I am thinking I might need to unbuckle and take some time off. The one character I want to die, won't, and the characters I like the most keep dying. I mean that sounds like the common complaint for the damn Walking Dead. I only watch Downton on Sundays because it is such a lazy Sunday afternoon show. But I have assignments due on Sundays so I am taking it real slow. Which is fine the show is real slow.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Wah on October 24, 2016, 07:23:21 PM
Downton abby? yuck! :P
Meh, you like what you like I suppose.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 25, 2016, 01:11:55 AM
Has anyone seen that new Lethal Weapon series? I had my reservations at first but it's actually kinda good. Not as good as the movies but it works I think.
I only watched the first two episodes but I like it so far.
I feels a pretty mediocre for me. It isn't crazy enough or violent enough and the chemistry between the leads are weak at best. Murtage sounds like he is whining most of the time instead of bitching about real issues like he is in fear for his life. Rigg has no edge to him, he takes some risks but he isn't taking crazy near suicidal levels of it and he doesn't really troll Murtage.

The relationship between Riggs and the psychologist is laughable and badly written. The relationship he should be comedic not serious. Riggs is suppose to be dealing with his issues with Murtage during the quiet times and even then it isn't often.

The biggest problem with the music is there doesn't seem to be any. The movies used it to mark important moments, the show feels like it has nothing.

More you watch it more it just feels like any other cop show and a cheap one at that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 25, 2016, 01:28:13 AM
I've been holding off on that Lethal Weapon show to see if they have the main actors switch parts halfway through the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2016, 01:35:42 AM
I enjoy the show. It's not exactly the movie turned TV show, but it's entertaining none the less.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on October 25, 2016, 10:55:20 AM
Black Mirror.

WTF?! So far I like episode 4 the best, but even then it ended...unconventionally. For those that have watched Black Mirror, you know that isn't exactly a good thing. Still, other than WestWorld, it's the best TV show this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: supermario2k on October 25, 2016, 02:32:16 PM
Has anyone seen that new Lethal Weapon series? I had my reservations at first but it's actually kinda good. Not as good as the movies but it works I think.
I only watched the first two episodes but I like it so far.
I feels a pretty mediocre for me. It isn't crazy enough or violent enough and the chemistry between the leads are weak at best. Murtage sounds like he is whining most of the time instead of bitching about real issues like he is in fear for his life. Rigg has no edge to him, he takes some risks but he isn't taking crazy near suicidal levels of it and he doesn't really troll Murtage.

The relationship between Riggs and the psychologist is laughable and badly written. The relationship he should be comedic not serious. Riggs is suppose to be dealing with his issues with Murtage during the quiet times and even then it isn't often.

The biggest problem with the music is there doesn't seem to be any. The movies used it to mark important moments, the show feels like it has nothing.

More you watch it more it just feels like any other cop show and a cheap one at that.


I only watched the first 2 episodes so far. I agree with most of your criticisms and at first I thought man if this wasn't called Lethal Weapon I wouldn't be watching it. But I think it does a good job adapting the movie to Television, which is a different medium than movies. The music I understand, they probably don't want to get into a Wonder Years situation where the music rights makes home video releases a nightmare considering studios make all their money off home video these days. It's definitely no Psych but it I don't know I liked the first two episodes.
It did drag a little in episode 2 and Gotham is back in full force so there is a real chance I stop watching all together, it didn't exactly have me hooked or anything.



On the subject of Gotham, still keeping me hooked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 26, 2016, 05:43:48 PM
The episodes of Black Mirror I have seen have all been great. Season 3 is really good. It's like twilight zone meets futurism.

I kinda want sequel episodes....

edit: just finished season 3. Episode 6 is basically a movie.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 27, 2016, 02:36:57 AM
I'm juggling too many shows to hop into Black Mirror S3 just yet, but I gotta drop in here and push some Ghost Rider love.

AoS ep5 scene - Spirit of Vengeance.... gets vengeance
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 27, 2016, 08:45:52 AM
Ugh, some real bad writing happened in that episode and I fear it's going to get worse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 27, 2016, 10:46:37 AM
But the action with quake and Ghost Rider has been pretty good. Even Mack with his Shotgun Axe, and Coulson getting in with some shield action.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 27, 2016, 04:00:22 PM
Ugh, some real bad writing happened in that episode and I fear it's going to get worse.

How so?

It did feel like it tried to stage these events just so Robbie had his chance in the prison at the expense of everything else though...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 27, 2016, 05:29:22 PM
Also, in Arrow is Curtis braiding his hair in all of his costumed scenes and then unbraiding it again back to an afro?! That takes HOURS
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 27, 2016, 06:57:16 PM
I would just like to point out that Curtis' costume is just awful.  Who seriously thought that painting a black T on his face was a good idea?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 28, 2016, 12:39:14 AM
Ugh, some real bad writing happened in that episode and I fear it's going to get worse.

How so?

It did feel like it tried to stage these events just so Robbie had his chance in the prison at the expense of everything else though...
Daisy's fight was really contrived. "Oh no we can't fight them all" *ends up fighting them all*. Also the director getting steam rolled so easily. I know he isn't Nick Fury, but come on, that was gutless as a puppet. Also what you said.

They really need to develop an Ice SMG or something like it, those pistols aren't cutting it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 29, 2016, 04:37:13 PM
West World I saw the first episode and didn't grab me. There was one twist, but everything else seemed pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2016, 11:36:47 AM
"She is Thirsty!! She is a Vampire Bat!!"

LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 30, 2016, 06:30:50 PM
West World I saw the first episode and didn't grab me. There was one twist, but everything else seemed pretty obvious.
It's suppose to be mostly obvious. It's sort of the opposite to the mystery box. You know the destination(generally), but you don't know how you are going to get there. There is mystery if you want that with secondary arc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 31, 2016, 02:56:15 AM
The Strain....

He should have wished his dumb ass son a "peaceful' death by turning a long ass time ago.
Kid was an idiot to let his dead mom in twice and once again when his dad finally killed her ass in self defense. I can't believe he would set off that nuke because his dad killed his dead mom who was on the verge of killing too only moments later. She is DEAD and no longer HUMAN you dipshit. Fucked **** up for the 2nd time now. He should kill his son on sight when he sees him, put everyone else out of his misery./rant
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 02, 2016, 11:21:16 PM
no pun intended, but AoS and The Ghost Rider has been on FIRE this season.

It's apparently going on a 1 month break right now, so perfect time to catch up if you're interested.
and if you were sure if you were interested, would me telling you that Johnny Blaze Ghost Rider* made a guest appearance along side Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider?

Ghost Rider *Spoiler Related gif*
http://i.imgur.com/X7yvD4V.gif
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 03, 2016, 05:44:29 AM
SuperGirl episode 4. LOLWUT that end of episode stinger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 09, 2016, 05:56:12 PM
SuperGirl Season 2 episode 5: The writing is Trump

It is a mess as they add more and more plotlines which are in no doubt going to be dropped. When the writing is "Good" it is just adequate. When it's bad they throw what characterisation out the window and write whatever is convenient. Whatever pretence for talking about their powers in private is out the window as they talk about it with everyone in ear shot. Either Catco is staffed by the most oblivious people or everyone knows but keeps their mouth shut, both being absurd notions.

The tech babble is just LOL. Show is really losing it's charm, it's making me miss "kryptonese", on the other hand, far less Krypton Lens flare flashbacks which is a real plus.

AoS: The director continues to get rolled edition.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 10, 2016, 02:06:24 AM
Well to be fair, this is in the same universe where a pair of glasses can throw anybody off into prosopagnosia.

On the other hand, I've only watched the first episode, which I thought was ****.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 14, 2016, 09:07:24 AM
Holy **** West World that was one hell of a twist and the execution was just exquisite.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 14, 2016, 01:21:58 PM
Holy **** West World that was one hell of a twist and the execution was just exquisite.

Masterful, wasn't it? Anthony Hopkins is a treasure.

So is it confirmed that Ford is replacing people? That would mean we have no idea who is human and who is host.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 14, 2016, 06:11:25 PM
Holy **** West World that was one hell of a twist and the execution was just exquisite.

The scene where Teresa and Bernard find the house and he says "what door?" I didnt notice earlier in the same shot the door wasn't even there. Fantastic staging of that shot. I had to watch it twice to catch the details.

Jeffrey Wright is the ultimate geek. He doesn't even have to try... he just has the look.

Also, Westworld has been renewed. Alongside Insecure and Divorce.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 14, 2016, 10:13:26 PM
Wright was actually pretty intimidating in Boardwalk Empire.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 15, 2016, 11:24:54 PM
Holy **** West World that was one hell of a twist and the execution was just exquisite.

The scene where Teresa and Bernard find the house and he says "what door?" I didnt notice earlier in the same shot the door wasn't even there. Fantastic staging of that shot. I had to watch it twice to catch the details.

Jeffrey Wright is the ultimate geek. He doesn't even have to try... he just has the look.

Also, Westworld has been renewed. Alongside Insecure and Divorce.
I caught it the first time and I brought a massive smile to my face as it would have been a small little detail other would have not put any thought to.

I like how they go about establishing the rules before they break them without it being BS. For something so steep in science fiction there is almost no technobabble by not using direct commands but short poems or phrases that aren't technological in nature or are in plain language like "Stop all motor functions", "Analysis". There is proper build up, all sorts of little details and the acting is just exemplary with Anthony Hopkins just absolutely stealing the show.

I love how Elise swears a lot, I really dig her personality. She is my second favourite to Ford. I also like Teddy in the way that he always get wreaked or endures a lot of suffering, which at first seems like a running joke until it gets serious for him.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on November 16, 2016, 02:26:24 PM
I am up to date on Westworld episodes and accidentally backed into some fan theories on the interwebs.
Holy crap, now I want to start watching all over again.

Folks, if you ain't taking in Westworld, you're doing it wrong. Really good show. A bit ponderous but really worth it.

Bonus: Watching Westworld also caused me to go back and replay some Red Dead Redemption! I wish there really was a western themed fantasy experience theme park. Red Dead is about s close as I can get right now, I suppose.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 16, 2016, 10:33:36 PM
I avoid fan theories so I can make up my own mind first before I stress test them. Besides it is way too soon to start running around with those. The little details are for you to find like secrets in a game, it's only after you bring out the FAQ.

Funny thing is there was a real "West World" of the same name and it had animatronic robots set in the time period.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 20, 2016, 10:13:47 AM
Shows at risk of being dropped:

Gotham - As much as i like the art style, it's good moments (absolute insanity, looks and style) it cancels itself out with some hairbrained decisions (the music and tone is still very opposing and jumps from serious to comical and camp repeatedly, the recasting of Ivy into this hyper-sexual-but-still-under-18 reboot) and no real "aim" with what it wants to do.

Scream Queens - From a show from the same makers as American Crime Story, i don't get how this show is so wishy washy. Everyone else i know has dropped it and i can't see a reason to continue with it either.

Blindspot - Martin Gero was one of the best writers on the stargate franchise and his previous show LA Complex had some strong storylines and actors going for it. Blindspot, meanwhile, has a main character with a sour face all the time and several characters who feel like their stories are being dragged out over and over and over... one character finds a tape of him potentially being abused as a child, and has been stretching out or deliberately avoiding him watching it ever since
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 27, 2016, 05:37:17 PM
So this week The Grand Tour evolved into Edge of Tomorrow meets Call of Duty.

Their brand of ridiculousness lives on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 27, 2016, 11:31:43 PM
The Walking Dead S07E06 - 1/10
That was by far the worst episode of the entire series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 27, 2016, 11:41:00 PM
The Walking Dead S07E06 - 1/10
That was by far the worst episode of the entire series.
Thanks for the heads up. I will look forward to how awful this might be to earn that 1/10.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Fatty The Hutt on November 28, 2016, 03:58:52 PM
Westworld Ep 9

Da Fuq?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 28, 2016, 05:18:51 PM
Westworld Ep 9

Da Fuq?

This was a perfect episode; an absolute stunner.

For those curious and casually read spoilers, please do not read this spoiler. It's pretty much the resolution of every plot point in the season.

So many things to pick apart! Bernard is Arnold? Arnold was killed by the Dolores? The maze is a path to consciousness? The man in black is a board member? William went insane? Logan's sister's photo was the one that eventually gave Maeve sentience? Ford has had the same conversation with Bernard before? Where do you begin?!

Having the path to consciousness end in a church that takes you to Arnold was incredibly moving. See the Hosts who were farther along speaking to themselves in an almost schizophrenic way as they battle with their own mind; it was beautiful.

Dolores's conversation with Arnold was my personal highlight. The emotions at play were akin to seeing your child suffer; it was heart-wrenching. Considering the past Arnold has had, this was the last thing he wanted, although he knew it was a necessary, hence the maze.

Ford was always intimidating and I didn't think he could become more so after ordering both Thesera and Ellsie dead (the only one's we're sure about), but now he is my all-time favorite HBO villain. And the best part, I have a theory that could possibly make him WORSE. And here I thought they wouldn't use Anthony Hopkins to his full potential.

Logan and Will? It's funny how a well-written piece of dialogue can make you feel completely sympathetic for a character you would have punched moments earlier. That character is Logan. It sealed the deal with making William actually crazy. Who saw that coming? The person that we were a least tepidly rooting for and the one we actively disliked switch in the matter of a few scenes. Bravo, Westworld.

And how about that imagery of Meave and Zorro fucking surrounded by fire? It was bad ass.

I'll have more to say later in the week. I want to watch it again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 29, 2016, 12:36:50 AM
WestWorld: Hard spoilers ahead

The only complaint I have with that episode is that they moved everything at the same time which meant less time was given per plotline. Collapsing the plotlines means next episode is going to be a whooper with it's focus.

Take notice of William's hat throughout the episode. It starts white as snow, gets progressively dirtier until he no longer wears one aka, losing his mind. I still don't like Logan, he is the opposite of Ford in the way that he is a loser that think he is a winner. He brought William to the park so he could lord over him and starts to blackmail him when William doesn't want to play his game.

They weren't really hiding the fact that the Man in Black was always that business partner spoken of. He is a person who has lost what mattered to him in the real world so he seeks something, anything in this world to give him meaning, even if it is not for him as stated many times.

I am not sure if I said it here or not, but Ford is a man that has already won and he knows this. I don't even see him as a villain despite the people he has killed. He had them killed because they got in his way and rightly or wrongly for the Hosts. He isn't a comic book villain who kills for evils or the publicity. He isn't insane, he isn't that typical mad scientist, he a man who wants to tell his stories. He definitely doesn't enjoy killing as both times we have seen him kill he has had a third party do it and he has looked away each time likely in an attempt to absolve him of some of the guilt.

While he is effectively a God of his own making, he doesn't wave it around like a flag like that Narrative Writer. He does remind people that he built this place when pertinent to avoid unneeded conflict and distractions.

I am rooting for him to finish what he wants to do, I want him to win even more than he does now. He is in no doubt aware of what is going on in every plot line and is in control. I wonder what story he is going to write from the "suicide" of Bernard.

What was the nature of his relationship with Arnold? He seemed really fond of him and missed him enough to make Bernard in his image.

Is Ford going to bring Bernard back? Given Bernard has been with the company for 30 years he looks like he has been getting updated bodies over the years, especially since he has had this conversation before and it seem to have lead to the same result.

I really hope Elsie isn't dead, she has been my second favourite character until Bernard took over. I really like her personality and I just love how much she swears.


Walking Dead, not quite a 1/10 but it was a useless filler episode on a character who didn't need a whole episode to build character on. They are clearly setting her or Link up to be killed by trying to make us care for her and giving her a chew toy in the form of Link. They are going to find each other again and nothing happy happens.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 29, 2016, 03:08:55 AM
I am up to date on Westworld episodes and accidentally backed into some fan theories on the interwebs.
Holy crap, now I want to start watching all over again.

Folks, if you ain't taking in Westworld, you're doing it wrong. Really good show. A bit ponderous but really worth it.

Bonus: Watching Westworld also caused me to go back and replay some Red Dead Redemption! I wish there really was a western themed fantasy experience theme park. Red Dead is about s close as I can get right now, I suppose.

There is. Old Tucson. Not quite West World, but it can be pretty fun.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 29, 2016, 05:10:36 AM
WestWorld: Hard spoilers ahead

Regarding Ford, I feel the same. It's like wanting Littlefinger to pull out the win.

And sorry, but Elsie is most certainly dead. A second flashback to Bernard choking her and him not remembering the incident points to it being a successful murder and Ford deleting it from his memory. That is not to say she won't reappear.

Bernard will be back. Ford explicitly said they've had this conversation before. I believe this was simply a power-play, a show of force, a lesson if you will. Bernard will be fixed and brought back to the fold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 29, 2016, 06:19:14 AM
I think maeve may potentially be the key to Ford's downfall at some point in the future, because she already can manipulate the hosts, is aware of the differences of her existence at last, can stop other hosts from moving on her and even has some staff on her side
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on November 29, 2016, 07:17:09 AM
I think maeve may potentially be the key to Ford's downfall at some point in the future, because she already can manipulate the hosts, is aware of the differences of her existence at last, can stop other hosts from moving on her and even has some staff on her side

There is no way Ford doesn't know about Maeve. And if he doesn't, even Bernard had a fail-safe back-door protocol installed that he was unaware of and he helped build the hosts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 29, 2016, 07:43:50 AM
But Ford has told Bernard this now, if Maeve comes into contact again with Bernard later she could become aware of this and potentially block his "administrator controls"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 29, 2016, 09:32:09 AM
WWElsie has a pretty high probability that she is alive as they haven't shown you her corpse and she doesn't know who attacked her. Ford can use her to attack the board as she would think that from the incomplete information she has, pushed on by Theresa's death. She is going to think those crazy Indians attacked her on the board's behalf, not Bernard.

Ford needs to remain in control to finish whatever he is doing. Plus this isn't the first time they have tried to go after him and he considers it "Sport". Remember, Ford is a man who has already won. It is a question as to what will happen to the losers.

Ford deleting Bernard's memory of his attack on Elsie was done because Bernard's base personality is non-violent. Killing Theresa broke him and he wouldn't take kindly to being lied to and being made to attack someone else.

It is not much of a show of force from Ford if there is no one to witness it and leaving the memory of him dying on Ford's command would be extremely counter productive. Bernard doesn't work if he is aware of his status, he would try to turn on Ford again.

Mauve is going down. Not only is Ford going to pull her strings, the company would be out to terminate her. It is a question of how many are going to die. It is likely this isn't the first time Hosts have gone rampant shown by the security measures during the first episode when they got a bit jumpy when they detected movement in the basement by bring a heavily armed team to investigate. For all the intelligence Mauve has she can't alter herself without help and her viciousness is going to work against her, it's no way to bring about loyalty. While she has been shown being able to manipulate people those two aren't exactly strong people. I think the "Upgrade" those two gave her was to tag her as "human" giving her the verbal commands over the Hosts.

None of the Hosts can hurt Ford. If anybody tried anything any Hosts in the area would defend him with lethal force even from other members of the company, high ranking or otherwise as demonstrated by Teddy on the Man in Black. Even a lobotomised Clementine couldn't hurt him after being hacked second most talented person in the company. Bernard is not lacking in talent as Ford admits that even he learned a few things from Bernard.

Not sure what the end game is for Dolores and William (Or Ford). From the flashback she is the only one we know of who has turned against her creators. But Ford would not leave her out there if she wasn't safe.

Also LOL, Teddy got wreaked again. He just can't catch a break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 30, 2016, 12:39:46 AM
Agents of SHIELD w/ another winner tonight.

The style in which this episode was shot was pretty damn good, with the way they made both halves blend, it made sense in both context.
But besides this basically setting up Ghost Rider for an extended series of his own, there is some serious **** about to go down in the ABCMCUTV realm.
Not to be confused with the NetflixMCUTV realm, or even just the regular ol' MCU that only graces the big screen. But don't get me wrong, the ABCMCU has been on point for season 4. I would say best season so far even though we are only 1 episode away from the mid season break.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 02, 2016, 05:59:45 AM
Arrow - Diggle makes a better Green Arrow (more aggressive posture, tone, stance) than Oliver does

Also, how brutal was that cyborg takedown by Kara and Barry?!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 02, 2016, 07:01:15 PM
Kara is just adorable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 02, 2016, 09:32:01 PM
Kara is just adorable.
She is the likely only thing that is keeping me watching the show at this point, the other is Lena. I never much cared for Alex and being gay(good for her) isn't going to change that.

They are eliminating a villain a week killing a significant number of them. I am not sure how deep that well goes as I am not familiar about Super/girl/man's rogue gallery. After the current season I think they might not have anything left with a cancellation a real possibility unless I am missing something.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 02, 2016, 10:51:19 PM
After the current season I think they might not have anything left with a cancellation a real possibility unless I am missing something.

I'm fully expecting all four shows to be cancelled and replaced with a single feux "Justice League" show. In fact, I hope it does.  None of the shows seem to have enough content to fill a season on their own so if there was a merge then it should make a lot more stories and villain characters possible.

I still think Melissa needs to do some serious weights, but she certainly has the charm and cuteness and plays the part well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2016, 12:58:59 AM
She doesn't need to pack on any muscle, her strength doesn't really come from it anyway and she is more about dodging fire instead of taking it like Superman likes to do. What she needs is some proper coaching so she can throw a bunch properly. If they aren't paying a coach to help her, I seriously doubt they are going to pay her to bulk up.

She isn't wonder women and the like who should be ripped.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on December 03, 2016, 04:28:20 AM
I like that Superman and Supergirl are not muscular.  We know their power comes nit from training and muscles, but the body absorbing solar power.  I think both charcters are perfect physique for the part.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 03, 2016, 06:15:23 AM
She isn't wonder women and the like who should be ripped.

What do you think about Gadot?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 03, 2016, 06:38:31 AM
She doesn't need to pack on any muscle, her strength doesn't really come from it anyway and she is more about dodging fire instead of taking it like Superman likes to do.

In the TV universe this is a fair point.  My personal preference is that she should be more buff, but her build as it is fits with the established characters in the universe.  (With the exception of Katie Cassidy as Black Canary who was skinny as a rake but doesn't have any powers).   The movies however....

What do you think about Gadot?

Still too skinny.  They have established that despite having super powers, Superman is still buff as hell.  Yet they cast a lingerie model as Wonder Woman. She's got the face, and she plays the character well but her build is completely wrong.  I certainly don't think they would need to go to the extreme of a weightlifter or body builder or anything (though it would certainly fit) but they could have at least have her develop a more solid build.  Maybe like Caty Lotz from Arrow (Sara Lance)

If it's good enough for the man being built then it should hold true for the girl too.  Of course we know why they didn't cast a solid girl.  Less sex appeal.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2016, 03:50:37 PM
What do you think about Gadot?
Her limbs look like they would fly off with little provocation. I haven't watched BVS(not keen on watching that dumpster fire) but the rest of her has the look.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2016, 01:58:58 AM
Westworld S1 Finale.... HOLY ****!!! That was pretty crazy. I'm glad I stuck with it and binged it 2 weeks ago to catch up. and don't forget to stick around till after the credits as well.


apparently S2 won't air till 2018, so it's gonna be a looong wait.


but here is something do in the meantime (page won't load for me, so I'm not sure what is there)
https://discoverwestworld.com/ (https://discoverwestworld.com/)

and then there is this:
http://www.delosincorporated.com/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: supermario2k on December 05, 2016, 04:11:36 PM
Last Man on Earth.

I gave up. It wasn't that good to begin with.

Last Man Standing: When it started I figured it was a reverse Home Improvement, but now its dipping into overly political for its own good. I also don't like how the dynamics have changed for several of the characters and certain characters are barely in the show anymore. Maybe they just got to juggling too many characters.

Lethal Weapon, I lost interest. I realized was just another boring cop show. I don't care for cop shows much.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 05, 2016, 04:53:01 PM
WestWorld Season 1: 10/10

I, at first, wanted to write a detailed review but figured that it might be better to save the details for anyone who hasn't seen it or heard about it. Please take my word for it and watch this show. It's about as good of a show as you can make.

I did not see that final twist coming in regards to Ford. Absolutely masterful.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 05, 2016, 06:44:27 PM
WestWorld Season 1: 10/10

I, at first, wanted to write a detailed review but figured that it might be better to save the details for anyone who hasn't seen it or heard about it. Please take my word for it and watch this show. It's about as good of a show as you can make.
I did not see that final twist coming in regards to Ford. Absolutely masterful.
WestWorld Season 1: 12/10

Just amazing.

I was really hoping he wouldn't die after seeing what happened to Arnold. But Ford went out on top having finished what he started, ever the winner. Whether Dolores had a choice in what she did will be up for debate though and will be for sometime.

Anthony Hopkins elevated the show like no one else. The subtlety of his expression when told the board was removing him was just great. Not only did he know it was happening, it was he who started it and let happen while countering threats to his control and the control of the park. He stole every scene he was in.

AHAHAHA William you dumbass, you were told repeatedly the maze wasn't for you.

The only weakness in this episode was the QA teams were not very good at their jobs. But a lot got covered by the fact that they had lost coordination and control.

The intentional play with the inconsistencies was great. there was a lot of WTH did the writers **** up moments only for you to get played. Well done.


This is the one show I unequivocally recommend to anyone without reservations.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 05, 2016, 07:57:20 PM
WW I finally got to catch up on west world. 2 things I saw coming, 1 I only half saw coming, and will have to rewatch the season to check for continuity errors.   

I suspected Bernard was an android when he slept with Theresa. Plus the way he noticed body language like a Psychopath.

I also figured out he was based on Arnold, because I saw Future World. In Future World, (double spoilers, if you never saw the movies watch them) the droids have not only taken over the park, they aimed to replace humans in important positions who visit the park. I always look for foreshadowing and symbolism to figure out twists. I read Goosebumps obsessively as a kid.

I knew William would go bad, but I didn't expect McPoyle to turn into Ed Harris.

I have to re-watch the whole season again for clues.I had noticed when Williams bro cut open Delores that she had old school innards. I had chalked it up to her being an old model, but it turns out that was just in the past. I'm pretty sure in earlier episode she has more advanced fleshy innards.

It is also possible there are two Delores's in the park. She may not be only hallucinating. Think about it. Some order of operations might require a secondary Delores. Or I have to watch it again. Everything was seemed pretty straight forward until the last few episodes when everything got turned on its head.

Between Elsie, Delores, Maeve, Bernard, William, Theresa, and Teddy. Some of their interactions require a certain order.  The thing that makes it difficult is their cyclical order of operation, like the Matrix. It's strange she would cycle to that church multiple times. Even weirder is Ford rebuilt it. The problem with the androids story is we don't know when events take place. The only thing we can do to figure it out is to find a human anchor. It is totally possible that there aren't continuity errors. This show requires a secondary watch.

Just a tip for dealing with androids. When Maeve asked to have her awareness turned up, that's when they should have turned it all the way down. She can't rule over you if she is stupid. Turn down aggressiveness too.

Poor Elsie


Delores is Spanish for misery.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2016, 01:48:35 AM
Major WW Spoiler from S1
https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalDapperChuckwalla

and a speculation
I think Ford made a "Avatar" of himself... I think that's who he was creating in his private android machine
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 06, 2016, 02:34:56 AM
Major WW Spoiler from S1
https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalDapperChuckwalla

and a speculation
I think Ford made a "Avatar" of himself... I think that's who he was creating in his private android machine

Possibly, although that would take away from his sacrifice. It'd be more meaningful if Bernard (Arnold) made a copy of Ford himself. But who's to say that the Ford that was shot wasn't a Host already?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2016, 02:38:48 AM
that's exactly what I was thinking. a good host always goes first.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 06, 2016, 02:40:24 AM
Major WW Spoiler from S1
https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalDapperChuckwalla (https://gfycat.com/UnnaturalDapperChuckwalla)

and a speculation
I think Ford made a "Avatar" of himself... I think that's who he was creating in his private android machine
I would term that a Mega spoiler.

I hope Ford made a version of himself based only on the fact I want more Anthony Hopkins. I am just riveted every time he shows up. it really helped that the show runners really know their stuff and not a moment of was a waste.

But it is likely he isn't coming back as it seems like he was cast to bring the people in like Sean Bean only to kill him off at the end of the season.

Elise doesn't seem to be dead yet as they haven't tied up her plot line nor the head of QA  leaving them in limbo. Come back to swear!


Possibly, although that would take away from his sacrifice. It'd be more meaningful if Bernard (Arnold) made a copy of Ford himself. But who's to say that the Ford that was shot wasn't a Host already?
That would be a pretty holy **** moment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 06, 2016, 04:03:20 AM
Westworld was fantastic. So so good. 2018 to the next season though.

Although i did notice Nolan reused a line from the POI series finale Root says "is this now? or is this one of my memories?", Bernard says the same thing. Minor, but it made me want to watch that episode of POI again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 06, 2016, 08:36:48 AM
Elise doesn't seem to be dead yet as they haven't tied up her plot line nor the head of QA  leaving them in limbo. Come back to swear!

There was a teaser on one of those WW ARG links that hinted at her still being around.
It's likely that she was purposely removed from harms way so that there was NO chance she would get caught up in what was about to go down.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 06, 2016, 10:14:53 AM
I'm pretty sure Elise is dead but if she's not, then she'll somehow find the head of security who was abducted by the native hosts. It's also possible that Elise was behind the abduction. Either way, she'll team up with the head of security to take the park back or warn the rest of the parks or world somehow.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2016, 01:07:45 AM
I'm pretty sure Elise is dead but if she's not, then she'll somehow find the head of security who was abducted by the native hosts. It's also possible that Elise was behind the abduction. Either way, she'll team up with the head of security to take the park back or warn the rest of the parks or world somehow.
but here is something do in the meantime (page won't load for me, so I'm not sure what is there)
https://discoverwestworld.com/ (https://discoverwestworld.com/)

and then there is this:
http://www.delosincorporated.com/

http://delosincorporated.com/video/intra/tablet.mp4

http://delosincorporated.com/assets/transmission.mp4

I don't if that means anything, but it comes from those links.

and for those that may be worried that season 2 won't be like season 1....
Well, they already planned out the next 5 seasons, so they know exactly how things will go from here.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/08/westworld-plan
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 07, 2016, 01:31:06 AM
Agents of SHIELD end the mid season with another banger.

best season of the show so far. All episodes have been great. Ghost Rider has been great too.
2nd half comes back Jan 10th, and Yo-Yo is getting a 6pt digital mini series starting Dec 13th
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNs9ZIHAVAy/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 07, 2016, 01:44:58 AM
I'm pretty sure Elise is dead but if she's not, then she'll somehow find the head of security who was abducted by the native hosts. It's also possible that Elise was behind the abduction. Either way, she'll team up with the head of security to take the park back or warn the rest of the parks or world somehow.
but here is something do in the meantime (page won't load for me, so I'm not sure what is there)
https://discoverwestworld.com/ (https://discoverwestworld.com/)

and then there is this:
http://www.delosincorporated.com/ (http://www.delosincorporated.com/)

http://delosincorporated.com/video/intra/tablet.mp4 (http://delosincorporated.com/video/intra/tablet.mp4)

http://delosincorporated.com/assets/transmission.mp4 (http://delosincorporated.com/assets/transmission.mp4)

I don't if that means anything, but it comes from those links.

and for those that may be worried that season 2 won't be like season 1....
Well, they already planned out the next 5 seasons, so they know exactly how things will go from here.
http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/08/westworld-plan (http://www.ew.com/article/2016/09/08/westworld-plan)
Nice, links are spoiler BTW. Nice how they have fucked up the website..
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 09, 2016, 04:46:09 AM
Agents of SHIELD end the mid season with another banger.

best season of the show so far. All episodes have been great. Ghost Rider has been great too.
2nd half comes back Jan 10th, and Yo-Yo is getting a 6pt digital mini series starting Dec 13th
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNs9ZIHAVAy/ (https://www.instagram.com/p/BNs9ZIHAVAy/)
I am rather disappointed that another AI is going to go rampant. Can we please get something that is not by the numbers please. After Watching West World I am a little bit less charitable with other shows.

What is the deal with Super Girl? Is it on Christmas hiatus?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 09, 2016, 11:38:17 AM
I on the other hand am very interested to see where AoS goes with this. This whole season so far has been on point, so I'm hoping they can continue to build on that.


As for Supergirl, the episode before the crossover was the winter finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 09, 2016, 01:23:34 PM
I do hope Ultron comes back. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 09, 2016, 08:50:26 PM
I do hope Ultron comes back. 

One reason why I'm very interesting in the 2nd half of AoS. Seeing how being at 10pm has allowed them to get a little darker in subject matter and imagery, the new subtitle L.M.D., and AIDA attempting to replace everyone with androids could get very interesting very quickly, and this season has already not only been the best season of AoS yet, but the best "Superhero/Comic" show on TV for all of 2016. I'm hoping they can push that through 2017 as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 10, 2016, 03:10:28 AM
It would be amazing if James Spader was announced as joining.  Since we're dealing with LMDs there could have James Spader himself as Ultron rather than the robot body.  It would be perfect.

Since James mocapped Ultron from the movie all his mannerisms, gestures and expressions and obviously voice would natually be expressed in person.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 10, 2016, 04:03:44 AM
5 minutes into the latest Walking Dead episode *You dumb ***** and ughh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 10, 2016, 12:14:50 PM
5 minutes into the latest Walking Dead episode *You dumb ***** and ughh.

was the one with Carl and Jesus in the back of the truck?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 10, 2016, 09:43:25 PM
Yes. Not as bad as the last episode, but it felt like it wasted my time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on December 10, 2016, 11:59:30 PM
When avgn's friend posted his insane mario paint-animated, frame-by-frame version of the tmnt intro, i looked the show up on youtube and started watching it from the very beginning. Man, what a great show and constantly cracking me up. Quality is still good so far in s3. There was one where Shredder starts talking and acting like Michaelangelo. That's my all-time fave.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 13, 2016, 06:35:20 AM
You know what was a real waste of time? The Last man on earth episode. Nothing that moved the plot forward happened.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 13, 2016, 07:13:18 AM
The Walking Dead has this amazing ability to kill people yet nothing happens for the stupidest reasons, repeatedly. Whatever goodwill it had from the start of the season is gone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 13, 2016, 07:46:03 AM
This last episode of walking dead I broke into chunks. It was one of those episodes that followed too many people. About 15 minutes in I decided to go upstairs and program. Then I came down and remembered my dvr was on pause. I watched a little bit more. Made some dinner. Turned on the news. Did that for a little bit. Then I finished the episode. Really, only that last part of the episode mattered much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stogi on December 22, 2016, 08:47:12 PM
Planet Earth II

This isn't just the best documentary I've ever seen. It's the best show I've ever seen.

11/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 23, 2016, 09:54:58 PM
Since I finished Westworld this morning I'm all on that train. Started a thread for us (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=51067.0) to not have to have walls of text spoilered in the other threads.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 25, 2017, 03:12:14 AM
Another good AoS episode.

AoS is clearly leading the comicbook show pack this season. no contest. no debate.

I can't put a list together at the moment, but where do you guys rank the current crop of comic book shows? You got a Top 5? Top 10?

and I suppose this may be a partial list in no particular order:
Agents of SHIELD
Luke Cage
Arrow
The Flash
Gotham
Supergirl
Legends of Tomorrow
The Walking Dead
Lucifer (I haven't watched this one)
Fear the Walking Dead
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 25, 2017, 05:57:50 AM
Lucifer is completely and utterly ridiculous, but the actors just jumped head first into it and is just a really funny show to just soak up because of it.

In terms of a primary storyline, AOS would win but in terms of just wanting the characters to hang out and watch the insanity unfold (which occasionally does... in the recent episode, Maze was sitting in Chloe's bedroom, munching on popcorn watching her have a sex dream) then Lucifer is better than all you listed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 26, 2017, 06:31:55 AM
But where do you guys rank the current crop of comic book shows? You got a Top 5? Top 10?

Agents of Shield far and away at number one.
Then several thousand empty spaces as placeholders for other Marvel shows.
Then all the DC shows down at the bottom. 

I just wish I didn't have this horrific compulsion to watch super hero shows.  Legends of Tomorrow was the only decent DC show this week in my opinion and that was because of all the Star Wars stuff.  Flash was alright.  Supergirl was forgettable and Arrow was abysmal. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 26, 2017, 09:50:31 AM
I've fallen out of the superhero shows as they all have seemed to go downhill as the seasons progressed, but I would say iZombie has far and away the best writing of any of the comic book shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on January 30, 2017, 11:07:15 PM
Another good AoS episode.

AoS is clearly leading the comicbook show pack this season. no contest. no debate.

I can't put a list together at the moment, but where do you guys rank the current crop of comic book shows? You got a Top 5? Top 10?

and I suppose this may be a partial list in no particular order:
Agents of SHIELD
Luke Cage
Arrow
The Flash
Gotham
Supergirl
Legends of Tomorrow
The Walking Dead
Lucifer (I haven't watched this one)
Fear the Walking Dead

Currently watching none of them. I haven't tuned in to any episodes of Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow or Supergirl and haven't come around to starting any of the others you've got listed there. Normally I'd have some stuff to comment on but not right now. I may try catching up on them at some point but I'm watching more movies and playing games a bit more while doing some other activities. I've been catching up on some other things like Black Mirror, Mr. Robot, True Detective Season 2, Sherlock Season 4, Orphan Black, Unreal and a couple others. Only stuff I'm staying up to date on at the moment are Jeopardy, Survivor, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Brooklyn Nine Nine, Last Man on Earth and Tosh.0. Still thinking about diving into House of Cards, The Americans, 30 Rock, The Good Place and Westworld yet all of which I have yet to see. And there's still other shows like The Wire or Twin Peaks I've yet to get around to seeing after airing years ago.

Plenty of stuff to watch and, unfortunately, the superhero shows just aren't delivering the entertainment I used to get out of them as well as creating too much eye-rolling half-baked drama. They really need to tighten up the writing on the shows. I'm not expecting Mad Men / Breaking Bad writing here but something Star Trek: TNG would be nice. Even Enterprise level I'll take. So, for now, I'm taking a break until I miss it enough to jump into them again. Maybe I'll finally give Gotham a whirl although BnM seems to be the only person I ever come across who's quite positive on the show. It's that positivity that keeps me from dismissing it although the sting of The Mentalist Red John mystery still keeps me away from Gotham with Heller behind it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 31, 2017, 01:09:10 AM
AoS S4 I can vouch for as a legitimately good season. probably best of the show so far.

Gotham... this is a guilty pleasure that happens to be HAMMY as ****. But you have to be able to accept this show for what it is, and just go with it. It's entertaining once you stop expecting it to be something it's not.
The villains are where it's at on this show... and Bullock, but he barely has much screen time in the latest season. And honestly, this Joker has potential to be the best live action joker we've seen yet. (Leto Joker is not even in the conversation)

Arrow... big step up from last season, but that's not giving it any praise.
The Flash... doing the running man? does that describe where this show as gone?
LoT... I keep watching this show, but I'm really just not that into it.
Supergirl... I keep wanting to really like this show, but I continue to just kinda like it enough to hope it gets better at some point. Waiting for the EPIC crossovers I guess. but they are too big for TV budgets. my expectations are in point for what to expect from the Arrowverse budget wise.Lead actress is cute though... I guess that helps.

Overall the Arrowverse is better realized (IMO) than the DCCU at this point.

TWD... I'm not even sure what to say about this show this season. I haven't read the comics, so I have no idea where they are going with the story, but I wish they would hurry up and get there, or at least make significant moves towards building up something.

FTWD... ehh, it's watchable, but nothing I would go out of my way for unless you have a serious need for more TWD living more dangerous than the dead drama.

Luke Cage... really good for the 1st 7 eps, but then you need to drink that Kool-aid for the 2nd half.
blaze the skunk and then embrace the funk, because the 2nd half is on a whole different level of What the F*beep*

Lucifer... I still haven't seen anything outside of the first 5-10 minutes of the original pilot episode when it aired months or weeks before the show started.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 08, 2017, 05:27:55 PM
Legends of Tomorrow - "who writes this crap anyway?" Rory went full-on Deadpool and the show is just better for it
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on February 09, 2017, 02:29:02 PM
Rory is far and away the most entertaining character on that show.  Pretty much all his lines are amazing. 
Not as hot as Sara though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 12, 2017, 12:42:55 PM
I like the cast for Legends of Tomorrow. Really bummed about what happened to the best character of S1 though Captain Cold was great
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2017, 03:27:13 AM
Agents of SHIELD: LMD... damn.

and here I thought it was gonna tank after Ghost Rider.
GR was pretty awesome, but LMD is taking it to potentially deeper levels here.

easily the best of the established comic shows on air right now. no doubts. no questions.

Now get with the program before I replace you with a you that will.




edit: I just saw the promo's for next episode and we seem to be headed down a scary Rabbit Hole.
Supposedly the LMD storyline is concluded next episode, but Coulson's twitter I guess teased the Savage Lands.


take that as you will.
speculation The Framework world is the Savage Lands? Everyone inside kept content by fighting their greatest foe... Grant "Taskmaster" Ward? I have no idea, but this season has been sooogood.gif
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 20, 2017, 02:29:10 PM
The Expanse is a fantastic series. Remarkably dense and rewarding loyalty, its the show that genuinely succeeds Person of Interest, BSG and DS9.

Although surpassing POI is a very high bar to cross going full-on serialisation like DS9 while on a US network is a risky ballsy move, Expanse is on a steady march into something special.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 20, 2017, 08:08:09 PM
I watched the pilot of The Expanse last night and it seems like my kind of thing. There was a lot packed into it, focusing on several different characters who are so far in very different places, but it sets up a fascinating world.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 21, 2017, 01:17:57 AM
This series is and has been on my watch list... i must make time for it at some point.

My backlog has grown tremendously, so thanks for not letting me forget to renew my interest in starting this series. AoS is taking a 6 week break after tomorrow's episode (end of the LMD arc), so mayble I'll be able to catch up on everything else I already have in queue, and be able to squeeze that one in as well.
Title: Agents of SHIELD: Age of Aida
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2017, 01:45:16 AM
Agents of HOLY ****, someone SHIELD my gotdamn eyes!!!

Marvel TV has found it's stride and leading the pack... no one else is in sight. Season 4's 2nd Arc finale left QUITE the cliffhanger for the rest of the season (to be continued in 6 fucking weeks :/). i don't know what Arc 3 is going to be called..., but **** is gonna be nuts, especially since I just knew they were going to find a way to bring back Ward.

So you got 6 weeks to get caught up. Forget your disdain for the 1st season, read a damn synopsis, or just bear through it and get to good stuff (which happens to start in S1 BTW) which I'm assuming is all going to come up in some way or another in the 3rd Arc of S4 of AoS.

Ghost Rider Arc was good, LMD Arc was even better, even though I wouldn't have thought that was possible going in.
p.s. Ultron ain't got **** on Aida. O.M.G.
someone is about to have some serious PTSD should they even make it out alive.


and for a first time
(http://i.imgur.com/Tyw6KbP.png)
he did an AMAZING JOB.


best episode of this show, and by extension, best episode (and show) of any comic/superhero show I've seen so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 22, 2017, 03:55:51 PM
AOS was fantastic. Whenever Simmons is the main focus of an episode, the show dramatically improves.

This three-arc format works so much better for the show. And to think i nearly dropped the show back in S1. What a turnaround.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2017, 08:25:53 PM
AOS was fantastic. Whenever Simmons is the main focus of an episode, the show dramatically improves.

This three-arc format works so much better for the show. And to think i nearly dropped the show back in S1. What a turnaround.

Simmons focused episodes have been quite the treat.

and the 3 arc leave for practically NO filler, so I really am loving this season as it all just seems so tight, focused and moving so fast. They really waste no time to get in and out of trouble, only to get in more and more again. They wrap up plots so quick, that they've literally been covering seasons worth of story lines in small season arcs. There better be a season 5 & six if this is to continue.

This at least has to last till Infinity War tie in of some sort. Send this off with a BANG!!!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 23, 2017, 06:29:34 AM
AOS was fantastic. Whenever Simmons is the main focus of an episode, the show dramatically improves.

This three-arc format works so much better for the show. And to think i nearly dropped the show back in S1. What a turnaround.

Simmons focused episodes have been quite the treat.

and the 3 arc leave for practically NO filler, so I really am loving this season as it all just seems so tight, focused and moving so fast. They really waste no time to get in and out of trouble, only to get in more and more again. They wrap up plots so quick, that they've literally been covering seasons worth of story lines in small season arcs. There better be a season 5 & six if this is to continue.

This at least has to last till Infinity War tie in of some sort. Send this off with a BANG!!!

Gotham has been using the same idea with Rise/Wrath of the Villains and Mad City, but AOS went one further and changes its titles to match the tone, breaks the season up with gaps in each arc and has a clear single throughline (the darkhold) to keep it all tied together. It all feels very connected but distinct from each other (in a good way)!

Jed Whedon has never directed before and he pulls out the best episode in the series on his first attempt. I'm reminded of how Jonah Nolan directed his first episode in Person of Interest's Relevance (in season 2) did the same thing and bested his more well known brother. The same has happened with AOS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 24, 2017, 04:54:08 AM
This season of It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia has been really good. Last season was fairly weak overall and I was worried they were losing their touch, but this year has been their strongest and most consistent in a while. I really love how they were able to make Mac finally be openly gay seamlessly, without calling that much attention to it or really even taking anything away from his character or the kind of jokes they can make.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on February 24, 2017, 05:07:44 AM
What's even funnier is the phase he's going though. He's a recently out guy trying to fit into his identity rather than actually be realistic about it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 26, 2017, 04:36:52 AM
I'm now three episodes into The Expanse and I'm head over heels in love with this show. I'm really tempted to not go to sleep right now like I was intending to and watch all the remaining episodes in a row right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 26, 2017, 07:59:52 AM
I just watched the most recent episode of The Expanse (season 2), which ends the first book. This could have been a season finale.... its THAT good. And this is only episode five!

I'll avoid complete spoilers but everything that has been setup since the pilot really come to a head in this episode.

It really helps that the writers of the books are the creators of the show, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 26, 2017, 12:02:02 PM
Holy ****... I was just catching up on Training Day, and the lead actor Bill Paxton just died today. RIP
61 yrs old. I was really getting into this show, and I loved his character on AoS.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on February 26, 2017, 02:18:37 PM
 :'(  Fitting tribute to him from real storm chasers:


ttps://twitter.com/GreenSkyChasing/status/835930577660436481 (https://twitter.com/GreenSkyChasing/status/835930577660436481)


https://www.facebook.com/severestudios2/photos/a.172002446173749.32844.112076058833055/1599442786763034/?type=3&permPage=1
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 16, 2017, 07:18:30 PM
The Expanse is something I've been hearing good things about for awhile and I'm really going to consider giving it a shot now since Plugabugz is willing to compare it to POI a bit.

Recently, I've just gone through all 4 seasons of Orphan Black and now there is just the final season which will air later this week. It's a fine enough show. It's not at the level of Mad Men, Breaking Bad, or even a POI level. Maybe just a bit better than your Arrowverse level. Season 4 is definitely the highlight so far though and really seems able to blend and gel all the elements its been trying to play with for awhile now so I am looking forward to the Season 5 final. It's just that the show can be a bit silly or hokey at times.

Right now, I've begun watching Star Trek: Deep Space Nine for the first time. I've gone through the first season and am about 10 episodes into Season 2. After the Star Trek Mafia, I've been really in the mood for a Star Trek series and to revisit that universe. After hearing so many recommendations of DS9, I figured I should finally try diving into that.

I'm warming up to the show a bit but there are still some deficiencies that bother me. Part of it might be that TV writing has gotten better in the last two decades but I dislike how sometimes there's a last minute resolution that happens but it doesn't have anytime for the ramifications of it or just leaves things unresolved. As an example, in one episode early in S2, Quark helps some criminals get onto the station and they take control of it during the storm. The other crew soon figure out it was Quark and Kira vows to make him pay for it all. Yet, by episodes end, when the threat and criminals are neutralized, nothing is brought up about Quark and next episode begins with business as usual. There's no fallout from his actions nor is it clearly explained why he was helping the criminals in the first place or what he hoped to gain. In some cases, it just seems like a reasonable argument solution is being missed.

In an episode I just watched, a race of refugees comes through the wormhole and thinks Bajor is the planet of prophesy for them to settle on. The planet of sorrows for them to plant and raise hope/smiles. The Bajor government turns them down because they don't have the resources for the people and are afraid of what might happen if the land they relocate to doesn't produce. Meanwhile there's another perfectly good planet they can relocate to that seems suitable for farming and is uninhabited. The refugees are a bit upset to be turned away from Bajor and feel they could help but it keeps going back to Bajor not being able to help them if the land fails. What I don't get is why it isn't argued to let them try. If the land doesn't produce or it does fail then the refugees still have their ships and there is this other hospitable planet for them to relocate to. If need be, the Federation could provide some supplies for the sudden move without putting the burden on Bajor. Seems like that would be the best scenario in case the refugees could help in restoring the land and replenishing supplies for Bajor but it's treated as an all or nothing proposition in the episode. So, underbaked plots or oddly resolved conflicts are the name of the game but all Star Trek series good and bad have had to deal with that. It comes with the territory for the series.

On the plus side, they've had some pretty good guest stars show up so far. Jonathan Banks, John Glover, Frank Langella. I'm curious to see who else will pop up over the course of the series. S2 is definitely off to a more confident and stronger start than Season 1. I'm still not sold on the cast though. To me, most of the characters are kind of bland and pale in comparison to other characters in the other series except Voyager. Especially galling is Avery Brooks who does not seem to be a good actor. I think another reason why I may not have warmed up to DS9 before is that this takes place on a Cardassian spacestation and the Cardassian look and technology is less appealing than the Starfleet brand. As well, thanks to Picard, one can sort of picture TNG as the future equivalent of a British sailing vessel on the high seas discovering new uncharted lands or facing off against enemy ships from other nations and the exploits of the crew. With DS9, it's more like the future equivalent of a show at an airport terminal which is a different tone than what's come before and takes more work to keep things interesting with its stationary setting. I just wish the space station appeared a bit bigger or had different interiors. The Promenade whish is supposedly the center of the station and a big area just seems to be Quark's Bar with Odo's jail a little distance away. It comes across as small tiny area. It's weird seeing money and business deals as well after other Trek shows not dealing with it or bartering for things.

I'm still willing to keep at because there has been enough to keep it interesting and the Dominion has now been name dropped twice without much for details. The high point of praise for DS9 has been the Dominion and its storyline and I guess I've been fortunate to never have the details of that storyline spoiled or seen it discussed. I just know that they are considered one of the greatest threats to the Federation and maybe even the best Star Trek baddies with Voyager reducing the Borg threat level over the course of its show. It's the promise of the Dominion that keeps me going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on March 16, 2017, 07:54:13 PM
Deep Space 9 and Later Seasons of Next Generation start exploring the idea of having less episodic seasons and more over arching story arcs.  You can even see in earlier seasons the start of such storytelling with the relationship of the Bajorians and the Cardasians, but it takes awhile to really get bigger story arcs.

Still, I think this is a problem of television trying to episodic to the point you can just pick up and watch any show or series.  Star Trek did a better job than most of having personal character development that allowed you to get a deeper experience if you knew the characters more...and even had the characters react and change towards each other over time and seasons, but it is nothing like today's series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 16, 2017, 08:02:49 PM
DS9 doesn't really hit its stride until the back end of season 2. The plot starts to come together late in that season, and then they get the Defiant at the start of season 3, which opens things up a bit. The writing also improves as they start to get the feel for what the show should be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 16, 2017, 10:44:48 PM
DS9 gets better once Gene Roddenberry dies. He held the show back from season long arcs and consequences from decisions made before. This invariably made the show darker as reality is a bitch and behind the pom and flash of a British sailing ship, bad things are done back home to enable that.

Don't worry too much about the Dominion, they don't get Voyager.

Avery Brooks/Sisko gets let off the leash later.

Bajorians are dumb but you will understand why when that character appears and you will hate them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 18, 2017, 09:56:12 AM
DS9 is very wonky in Season 1 and early S2, mainly because the show hasn't found its tone or footing yet but once it starts to get more confident it starts to veer off in its own direction.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 18, 2017, 11:40:31 AM
So, pretty much like every Star Trek series. TNG has a lackluster 1st season, an improved 2nd Season and finally becomes the show it is usually remembered as being in the 3rd. Enterprise has a rough 1st season but by the latter half of Season 2, it becomes much better and keeps trending upwards in quality.

Aside from the original series which is kind of stays the same in tone and quality from beginning to end, most Trek series have growing pains. The only other series I can't say much on is Voyager having watched very little of it. Even with Voyager, from people that do like it, they seem to point towards the middle of the series like seasons 3-5 as being really good. Voyager did seem to improve a bit when 7 of 9 joined the cast from the various episodes I've seen even though I didn't like the direction they were taking the Borg back then.

To DS9's credit, even though some of the crew is bland still and could be replaced by a talking paperweight (which would suddenly make that character more interesting), there are a couple other members that I do like and have warmed up to and while I'd like to see the writing a little bit tighter and smarter, for the most part, the episodes I've been watching have been interesting enough to keep plowing through at a regular rate which is something Voyager couldn't get me to do.

Season 2 from the beginning shows signs of improvement over Season 1 when they have a 3 episode story arc occur over its first 3 episodes. You can tell the show is beginning to realize some of the potential it has and how it can be different than the Trek that came before it by staying in a more stationary place which is getting more into the political elements of the part of space where it is patrolling. One particular highlight has been the Cardassian tailor on the ship. Both of his episodes so far have been one of the top episodes in each season I'd say. He helps make Dr. Bashir a more fun character to boot. So, even if I'm not at the "good stuff" yet, there are still other elements and things in place to keep me watching the show right now to find it pleasant enough without it being a struggle as I wait for it to truly gel.

As far as the crew goes, I think Kira Nirese(? not sure on spelling) is probably my favorite character right now. Following her would be Quark and Odo. One thing I didn't expect to like was a Ferengi crew member since their other Trek appearances never seemed to indicate much depth to their race plus their look is rather ridiculous but having a sort of criminal and profit seeking station resident has ended up being more entertaining than I thought. It helps with Odo playing the no nonsense lawman and straight man in their cops and robbers routine. It seems to me that the mystery of Odo's race is one the writers are setting up for a payoff down the road and I hope its worth it. After that, I'd probably rank Jake Sisco as the next best character though more for his partnerships with Nog. He hasn't really had much to do in the series so far or been involved in much either but I see him as a second crack at what the writers had wanted to do with Wesley Crusher on TNG and succeeding by not making him some kind of chosen one with Wesley and focusing more on what it would be like for a regular child in this envioronment.

Notice that the best characters so far are pretty much all non-Federation? As for the remaining members, I'd put Chief O'Brian next in line although sometimes he just feels like a Scotty 2.0. Then Dr. Bashir who I'm starting to warm up to a bit from a few recent episodes. Sisco and his odd facial expressions next. Finally, at the bottom, no-personality Dax.

Guess we'll see if the bottom 4 can change things as we progress but, in a positive spin, even though I'm a bit ambivalent towards the Starfleet members, at least I don't hate them or are annoyed by them like some of Voyager's crew. There's still plenty of time to find a way to make them interesting (like Bashir's spy games with the Cardassian tailor) find a way to better characterize them. Right now, I could kind of describe O'Brian and, I guess Bashir's personality and traits if I had to though I'm not sure how accurate the list would be. But I've got nothing on Sisco or Dax and how to write up their personality. With Sisco, I'd be relying a lot on the first episode still along with a bit of the 3 part arc to start S2. With Dax, it's more what others say about her than anything she has really shown. Still, while these characters may not be part of the draw in watching another episode or compel me to watch more of the series, they aren't pushing me away from the series either so they aren't harming anything. I'm just wishing and hoping they can become more than stay neutral. With TNG and Enterprise, I liked all the character so even when an episode focused on one particular member, it didn't take away from the enjoyment of the show unlike Voyager and "Oh no! It's a Chakotay episode! What did I do to deserve this?"
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 19, 2017, 05:41:07 AM
As much as i like Arrow, i get super annoyed every time Mister Terrific is on screen and his hair is braided and then the following daytime its out again (or vice versa).

That takes hours to do, and yet we never see Curtis with a mirror preparing (or even anyone around him capable of doing it). It's a jarring little point thats been a thing ever since he went out into the field.

So, pretty much like every Star Trek series.

Yes in a way, the stories begin to get longer and more arc driven from S2 and the characters stop being reset so much and actually begin to wear their flaws and issues over time. Your view on Garak is largely accurate though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 19, 2017, 12:26:25 PM
As much as i like Arrow, i get super annoyed every time Mister Terrific is on screen and his hair is braided and then the following daytime its out again (or vice versa).

That takes hours to do, and yet we never see Curtis with a mirror preparing (or even anyone around him capable of doing it). It's a jarring little point thats been a thing ever since he went out into the field.

Barry got quick braiding skillz. he zips over EVERY TIME, brushes/combs that fro out, greases and braids it super quick. It's also part of Curtis' pain management training. you didn't know!?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 24, 2017, 11:27:24 AM
Legion - I'm not sure if i completely understand the series, but i'm just completely swept away by the incredible set design and production value. Aubrey Plaza as Lenny is on fire.

The Expanse - Avasarala is by far the best character on the show. She's the only character who has her eye on bigger things and will mercilessly cut down anyone who gets in her way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 25, 2017, 03:28:47 PM
I just finished Iron Fist, and I have to say that even though the fights weren't on par w/ DD, the show as a whole was actually pretty solid.

The "White Savior" BS was total BS, and I'm not really seeing where the mass hatred was coming from. I have to admit that I didn't read all of any specific review, and I didn't even glance at most of them, but the overall gist of what I heard they were about now seems pretty unjustified. Maybe I went in with lowered expectations, but I honestly liked the show.
I think it's story was the most consistent w/o any real "filler" episodes (DD, JJ & LC) or crazy tonal shifts halfway through (LC).

It's also set up pretty well for a S2, and I'm kinda looking forward to it. It also possibly does good towards building up a major conflict for The Defenders to address as it touches on a little more of where DD S2 left off with regards to The Hand and whatever their plans are.

I think in the end, there are enough connections as to how everyone will finally come together as well.
*Speculation based on SPOILERS*
Kun Lun was left unguarded and attacked by The Hand, Iron Fist must engage.
DareDevil lost Elektra to The Hand, so he seems pretty motivated to engage, and Stick is probably well aware of the legend of The Iron Fist, so all of them meeting up at some point is likely inevitable.
Claire trying to find a way to help will obviously be the lead in to Luke Cage coming to help. And either through Luke, Claire or Jerri Hogarth (the lawyer), Jessica Jones will be suggested to help track down clues/investigate, and provide a little added muscle.

Obviously I have no idea what the actual plot of The Defenders is, but now I'm certainly looking forward to it a little more than I previously was.

But log story short, Iron Fist was good. I don't get the hate, and I enjoyed the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 25, 2017, 06:12:32 PM

Hopefully this will prove why i'm loving the expanse so much (even though insanolord is now fully on board...).

Spoilers for the book 1 (all of season 1 and first third of season 2) in that video. Shohreh Aghdashloo is utterly on fire, and her voice is one of the most enchanting i've ever heard.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on March 26, 2017, 10:34:36 AM
I just finished Iron Fist, and I have to say that even though the fights weren't on par w/ DD, the show as a whole was actually pretty solid.

The "White Savior" BS was total BS, and I'm not really seeing where the mass hatred was coming from. I have to admit that I didn't read all of any specific review, and I didn't even glance at most of them, but the overall gist of what I heard they were about now seems pretty unjustified. Maybe I went in with lowered expectations, but I honestly liked the show.
I think it's story was the most consistent w/o any real "filler" episodes (DD, JJ & LC) or crazy tonal shifts halfway through (LC).

It's also set up pretty well for a S2, and I'm kinda looking forward to it. It also possibly does good towards building up a major conflict for The Defenders to address as it touches on a little more of where DD S2 left off with regards to The Hand and whatever their plans are.

I think in the end, there are enough connections as to how everyone will finally come together as well.

But log story short, Iron Fist was good. I don't get the hate, and I enjoyed the show.


We're about half way through and I agree with you, the show got a bad rap because of the savior BS. So far I am liking the little nods to the previous in-universe plots and characters. I am glad they left it open for a S2 and hope they follow through with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2017, 01:46:49 PM
The show certainly has flaws, but the only major detractor from the show is sadly the fights. Most of them are fine, but a few of them are lacking in execution. This is mostly disappointing as the show is about skilled martial artist where the fights don't really seem all that skilled.

I'm really hoping at the very least, the DD choreographer is in charge for The Defenders.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 11, 2017, 11:28:22 PM
I seriously hope you all are caught up on AoS.

the **** is about to hit the fan on this show.
The writing, the action, the acting, the EVERYTHING about this show has been aces this season.

forget what you thought or heard about the previous seasons (1&3) that may have turned you off for one reason or another. Season 4 is none of that. This show this season is everything you wanted this show to be back in S1 when it first aired... minus the MCU movie crossovers. AoS is literally shitting on any other comic show on TV right now when it comes to quality, drama, action, story, etc etc etc.

Get caught up, tune in.
and word has it that there is likely a S5 as well. So if this season is anything to go by, it's gonna be really fucking good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on April 13, 2017, 12:37:01 AM
I really want to dive into AoS, but we still have a few other shows to wrap up. Very excited to get back into it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 13, 2017, 06:08:08 AM
I seriously hope you all are caught up on AoS.

the **** is about to hit the fan on this show.
The writing, the action, the acting, the EVERYTHING about this show has been aces this season.

forget what you thought or heard about the previous seasons (1&3) that may have turned you off for one reason or another. Season 4 is none of that. This show this season is everything you wanted this show to be back in S1 when it first aired... minus the MCU movie crossovers. AoS is literally shitting on any other comic show on TV right now when it comes to quality, drama, action, story, etc etc etc.

Get caught up, tune in.
and word has it that there is likely a S5 as well. So if this season is anything to go by, it's gonna be really fucking good.

Season 4, especially this current arc in S4, is the Jemma Simmons show. Somewhere in S3 they realised she's actually the strongest actor next to Fitz and she has been given more and more chances to shine. I'm glad because even without powers like Daisy she's still not to be messed about with.

Disconnecting completely from the movies was the best thing the show did because now it's just it's own little thing and completely free to go wild.

It also doesn't suffer from wild tonal shifts like Gotham, and "CW-itis" of unnecessary drama and relationships like the Arrowverse. Of all the comic IP based shows, AOS and Lucifer (no, seriously!) is joint first for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 13, 2017, 07:07:30 AM
Daisy has never been an interesting character. She hits maximum terribleness when she got her powers as that is what she became, nothing more, nothing less. Now that they are pulling her out of her tail spin she might get interesting again even if it is rehashing past events.

Jemma and Fritz have excellent chemistry, you want them to be happy. These two are just trying to do what they can to help and live life but they just keep getting tossed into the cement mixer.

It also doesn't suffer from wild tonal shifts like Gotham, and "CW-itis" of unnecessary drama and relationships like the Arrowverse. Of all the comic IP based shows, AOS and Lucifer (no, seriously!) is joint first for me.

Oh god this so much. I all caught up on Legends of Tomorrow and good god if you haven't read it in the DC thread the Meta Crossover/Flashpoint was shockingly bad. LoT had literally sat in limbo waiting for this crossover to happen before it could get on with it's own story effectively throwing away half the season. It didn't help they put their best actor on the bus for the first half. He earned his keep dragging kicking and scream the first season to the finish.

They do the whole Drama thing in LoT too. Sure they are a bunch of assholes playing Time Cop but I really wish they stop hitting the replay button on the characters. It's not foreshadowing or a twist if you bash us with it a minute before. Looking you HawkGirl and Mick.

Second half of season 2 was pretty enjoyable. The villains individually are pretty sorry, but put them together and it's popcorn time. The writers finally found their "Lets have some fun with" monstrous villainy oppose to the mildly menacing kind.

I am pretty sure it is a mostly DC thing, but why do they keep insisting on having fist fights during gun battles?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 13, 2017, 09:54:34 AM
Lucifer is arguably a better show than all of those it has a much simpler premise that starts to get more and more insane the devil decides to leave hell and move to LA and find a better life for himself, only to realise that he has feelings for a human even though all he wants to do is drink, party and have as much sex with anyone that wants it.

Half way through Season 1 the show stopped trying to be serious and starts leaning on the comedic talents of it's cast who all jump head first into it - if you're going to have episode titles like "Liar, Liar, Slutty Dress on Fire" you might as well just swing for ridiculous with full force. Especially if the devil's mother looks like Tricia Helfer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on April 13, 2017, 01:41:55 PM
I seriously hope you all are caught up on AoS.

the **** is about to hit the fan on this show.
The writing, the action, the acting, the EVERYTHING about this show has been aces this season.

forget what you thought or heard about the previous seasons (1&3) that may have turned you off for one reason or another. Season 4 is none of that. This show this season is everything you wanted this show to be back in S1 when it first aired... minus the MCU movie crossovers. AoS is literally shitting on any other comic show on TV right now when it comes to quality, drama, action, story, etc etc etc.

Get caught up, tune in.
and word has it that there is likely a S5 as well. So if this season is anything to go by, it's gonna be really fucking good.


I'd been sneaking views on the start of the season with Ghost Rider, Edgy Daisy, and Discount Captain America, but can agree this season is on an interesting path with the LMD Arc, life swapping and plugging into the matrix framework

I'm about 5 episodes behind, but things are getting crazy in a way I really liked in Season 2.  I also find it hilarious how they want so badly to keep the actor who plays agent Ward employed
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 21, 2017, 09:52:24 PM
Here's a sneak at the next episode of AoS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDGWYF7A194

notice the hand on the chest.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 05, 2017, 05:15:43 AM
AOS this week was just fantastic. With only 2 episodes to go i have no idea what they are going to do to wrap this up while Aida/Mallory Jensen is reaching Tatiana Maslany levels of acting portraying all these different characters with the same face.

AOS is by far the strongest Marvel property (especially if you look at these arcs seperately), and Lucifer is the best DC property by a country mile - no, seriously, it is. All the other DC shows either lean into relationship drama or gloomyness over and over, but Lucifer this week has the actual devil getting on stage at a punk concert and singing Eternal Flame by The Bangles with a piano and singing it totally straight faced to his work partner to apologise for his misdeeds. If you're gonna go for comedy and lunacy that's completely within character then GO for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 05, 2017, 10:45:29 AM
AoS can't get enough praise from me right now. From where we started, to how we ended up now, is quite the difference, but the build-up of the characters to how everything so far has been called back in some way or another has been fantastic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on May 05, 2017, 08:48:57 PM
AOS is by far the strongest Marvel property (especially if you look at these arcs seperately), and Lucifer is the best DC property by a country mile - no, seriously, it is. All the other DC shows either lean into relationship drama or gloomyness over and over, but Lucifer this week has the actual devil getting on stage at a punk concert and singing Eternal Flame by The Bangles with a piano and singing it totally straight faced to his work partner to apologise for his misdeeds. If you're gonna go for comedy and lunacy that's completely within character then GO for it.


I really need to get on the Lucifer bandwagon, as I think all the relationship drama is what is killing my interest in the Arrowverse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 06, 2017, 04:29:17 AM
This isn't a new show, but I noticed it was on Amazon Prime. Unsolved Mysteries 9/10

Great show, Robert Stack standing around in the shadows in a trench coat.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2017, 07:51:48 PM
Good news is that AoS is getting a season 5.
No idea on if same episode count, but the show goes on!!!
http://deadline.com/2017/05/bubble-series-2017-canceled-renewed-elementary-exorcist-taken-once-upon-a-time-agents-of-shield-1202085630/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 08, 2017, 03:26:33 PM
American Gods is incredibly well made. I'm hooked just by the production value alone.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2017, 03:30:22 AM
American Gods is incredibly well made. I'm hooked just by the production value alone.

I honestly want to jump back into my audio book, as 2 eps in and it's already 2/3 the way into the book where I left off...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2017, 02:16:02 AM
Agents of SHIELD Season 4

(http://i.imgur.com/80aTaF8.jpg)

for reals. this episode was 0-60. AIDA is the stuff of wet dreams and nightmares.
Best MCU villain BY FAR in every way possible.... AoS s4 is best MCU anything BY FAR (so far ;) )

Bring on Season 5 (there's still 1 more episode of s4 though, but I'm ready for s5 to start immediately afterwards)


edit: the season isn't even over yet and I feel like we've legit had 3 different seasons so far, as so much has happened, and so much ground has been covered.
If this all ends up tying into Infinity War/Gauntlet in the end then I wouldn't even know what to do.... dead.gif (http://i.imgur.com/KNEQa4f.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 10, 2017, 04:24:41 AM
I wonder whether all the other announced Marvel TV shows (Cloak & Dagger, Runaways, the Netflix series) will all refer to it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 10, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
Agents of SHIELD Season 4

this episode was 0-60. AIDA is the stuff of wet dreams and nightmares.
Best MCU villain BY FAR in every way possible.... AoS s4 is best MCU anything BY FAR (so far ;) )


Completely agree.

This is probably one of the most amazing shows I've ever had the privilege of watching.  I haven't felt this excited for a TV show for a loooooong time.  If ever. 

And DAMN.  Mallory Jansen can act.  I'd never heard of her before this show.  I hope she ends up in some movies soon.  Take notice Mr Feige.  She deserves it. 

And that ending.  Bring on the finale!!!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2017, 07:45:52 PM
AIDA went 143 to 187, in 0 to 5150 like that ::snap ::!!! She portrayed all the emotions of a love crazed psychotic Woman to the point that I was terrified that I was turned on. LOL.
That scene where she popped up behind homeboy like a fucking horror movie was almost chilling. I can't believe Fitz would reveal his live for another Wonsan to get while they were both "trapped" in that room together, but he is inexperienced with women, so he gets a pass. Knowing what Aida was capable of, Simmons would have had to settle for that beloved side piece role, and just know that while I love her, I can't leave BAE.... because she would murder us all. LOL


I don't even want this season to end, just give us a 4th chapter.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 11, 2017, 12:16:40 AM
AOSHe should have realised that he needed to take one for the team and let it be his penance. He maybe inexperienced with women, but doing that to anyone would have had the same result so he is an idiot. He didn't give her a choice.

I was prepared to have them both Fritz and Jemma to be heart broken resulting in the team breaking without killing any of them.

Ophelia was also ready to to accept her punishment and I am very disappointed they are going to throw her away when she has so much to space for the writers to explore.

They have answered a weird question though that yes, she does indeed have a soul assuming GR is going after her.


Holy **** for Mallory Jansen, she might be my new favourite actress. She will be going places.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 11, 2017, 01:43:50 AM
Holy **** for Mallory Jansen, she might be my new favourite actress. She will be going places.

Imagine if Mallory and Tatiana Maslany got together on a show to see who could convincingly play the most different characters on screen simultaneously.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 11, 2017, 03:05:31 AM
I hope Mallory's character (whoever it ends up being) stays around the universe.  It would be such a huge waste to let her go.  She could be a magnificent Avengers villain.  As long as it's not Avengers: AoU repainted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 11, 2017, 12:23:38 PM
Black Lightning has been greenlit to series on The CW. I presume this will wind up being in the Arrowverse, but for me the concern is how this is now the 7th show from that studio (the 4 CW series, Riverdale, Black Lightning and Blindspot) on air at once.

Are they stretched too thin?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 17, 2017, 01:42:17 PM
Well, that was a whimper to paraphrase Radcliffe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2017, 02:45:23 AM
Well, that was a whimper to paraphrase Radcliffe.

Radcliffe's finale... poetic.
Hope's finale... sad.
AIDA's finale... intense, yet felt rushed
Team SHIELD's finale... No Shawarma, and that ain't SWORD. So what was it?


Tune in next season to find out.

Honestly though, they should have done an 1hr:30min finale and fleshed that ending out some.
AIDA was hands down the most terrifying villain of the MCU so far, in opinion.
This season was by far the best: season of AoS, of comic book shows, and MCU product to date
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 18, 2017, 06:20:25 AM
AOSI rather like Radcliffe. A man who tries his best to do good but gets caught up in the science and doesn't think far enough ahead. He is a complex character who is very self aware of what he has done and does his best to atone while trying to keep a level of quality of life for himself. I will miss him.

Ophelia broke down all too easily and it was far to rushed. I think we will see her again hopefully mellowed out after spending time in hell. Or the Russian might clone her as he has run off with a lot of her/Fritz's technology. She has had a great arc because she was always evolving resulting in massively different person by the end.

Seeing that she is made of the Dark Hold it is disappointing no matter what she did GR was coming after her. It doesn't help the DH turns you insane even if you are a robot. It's good that they can finally move on from it though.

The switch out with Fritz and Jemma was almost master class acting. They really sold it and for a while I brought it.

Were those guy literally Men in Black? Looks like the team got RED so off to Space Prison.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 18, 2017, 07:35:26 AM
I totally agree it needed 30 extra minutes. Mallory Jensen was absolutely perfect, the way she kept flipping between those different states with such ease made me sad to see her go.

AOS is moving to Fridays (Inhumans will be there too). Sadly with a reduced budget.

Jemma, once again, proved she is the best actor in the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on May 18, 2017, 10:49:30 AM
I'll second the comments that the AoS finale needed more time to not feel rushed (especially regarding Matrix Ward getting an abrupt departure with no closure, Fitz being told to basically suck it up after the realization he has the capability to be a monster (I dyed my hair! - Daisy ::) ), a somewhat frantic fight that ends pretty briskly for one of the most interesting villains in the show).  That said, Radcliffe's end sequence is probably one of the most stark and impactful in the series, rivaling S3's Hive death in space.   Despite that, it was a mostly satisfying season ending which leaves a lot of tasty questions for the next season.



What was the deal Coulson made with the Ghost Rider?


What happened to our Russian robot friend?


Where on earth IS Coulson & Co?  Or is it JUST Coulson in SPAAAAAAACE?


Is Daisy the poster child of Inhuman threat on Earth now?


This isn't the last we've seen Ghost Rider, right? 


Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2017, 01:30:45 PM
Ghost Rider needs a Netflix spin-off.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 18, 2017, 03:58:32 PM
Blindspot is just stupid now. Somehow the bad guys managed to smuggle "nuclear material" into the country, stage a terrorist attack to kill off all senior government figures so their plants can be in place and then launch a missile FROM SPACE! to ignite all that material, wipe out the government and "destroy half the eastern seaboard"

Never mind that the character from the beginning of the season who had the child abuse storyline..... he watched the tape showing the abuse, thought about leaving, didn't, and then basically went back to work. No change in his character at all. Like it never even happened.

I'm prepared to put up with the insanity from the DC CW shows because that's what it goes for, but this tries to be serious faced and then go batshit anyway.

This is #1 to be dropped alongside Gotham.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on May 19, 2017, 01:46:09 AM
This isn't a new show, but I noticed it was on Amazon Prime. Unsolved Mysteries 9/10

Great show, Robert Stack standing around in the shadows in a trench coat.

This show gave me the heebie jeebies back in the day. I'll have to check it out again to see if it still gives me the chills. That music. That voiceover...

Someone was just ID'd recently that was featured on the show. It wasn't because of the show, but it just shows what longevity and reach it had:

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/11/woman-who-died-after-being-hit-by-2-cars-in-huntington-beach-is-identified-after-27-years/ (http://www.ocregister.com/2017/05/11/woman-who-died-after-being-hit-by-2-cars-in-huntington-beach-is-identified-after-27-years/)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 19, 2017, 03:07:59 AM
I read that article in Robert Stack's voice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 24, 2017, 03:38:57 AM
That was a pretty badass episode of Supergirl.

The solution was **** and thinking about it makes my head hurt a little as to how stupid it is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 25, 2017, 06:08:46 AM
*raises hand*

Excuse me, I have a question about the Supergirl finale!

Why did they decide that loading the atmosphere with lead was a good idea?  Lead is poisonous to humans, hence the condition known as "lead poisoning".  What over paid genius decided that humanity had suddenly developed immunity to it and that flooding the atmosphere with a toxic chemical would be fine?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 25, 2017, 06:21:54 AM
Not giving mon-el breathing equipment and a sexy body suit was a massive ??? moment.

But yeah, atomizing the Lead would have poisoned everyone.

The whole ending was dumb with a capital D.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 02, 2017, 08:15:51 PM
I'm now 4 episodes into Season 6 of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine putting me at around the 75% mark of the series or so. I get why this series is so popular with a lot of people though at times it makes decisions I feel are odd or just seem to be set-up to allow for conflict later. I'm not sure what oohhboy is referring to about that character he vaguely alluded to as explaining the Bajorans and why they act why the do. There's nothing about the Bajorans that I've really felt needed explaining or seemed off from the time I've been watching so maybe this person has already appeared and it was too lowkey for me to realize it or this person still has yet to appear. I keep waiting for it ever since he mentioned this.

Season 3 is definitely a highlight of show as it works towards its first sort of climax in The Die Is Cast. A lot of elements in the past couple seasons kind of lead up to that. It's odd that it isn't the finale of Season 3 but instead it continues on for another 6 episodes or so with some low key episodes aside from the season finale which starts to play up the potential danger of the Founders. Season 4 then seems to begin some reshuffling of the show. Worf joins changing up the dynamic and the Trek universe is also shaken up a bit via Klingon relations. However, the overall feeling of the season seems to be a step back from the roll Season 3 on had been on until it slowed down its momentum. It isn't until close to the midpoint of Season 5 when the show seems to ramp up back to the sort of momentum it had in Season 3 with a big shift in Alpha Quadrant dynamics as the Dominion makes a friend. The ending to Season 5 and the beginning of Season 6 so far has been a pretty bold choice and not something you could really do on any other Trek show set on a spaceship. It's definitely heading into more serialized territory which is a smart decision story wise. I think its part of the reason why I've always like Enterprise so much because it began to grow a history and be more serialized as it went on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 02, 2017, 09:50:18 PM
Deep Space 9 does a great job of building its world like that. The pieces slowly fall into place over the first few seasons as it moves slowly toward its inevitable final form. Season 6 might be the best of them, though I could see the argument for any of the final four seasons being number 1. You're inching closer to what I consider the high point of all of Star Trek and one of the greatest episodes of television ever made, which is coming up later in the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 02, 2017, 09:51:31 PM
Another big strength of the show compared to other Trek is the supporting cast. Other Trek series may have a few returning characters but their appearances are often limited. Deep Space Nine has a much richer supporting crew that you'd almost think some of them would have been promoted to series regular with their name on the opening credits. Since it is on a space station, it allows for having a supporting cast of non-Starfleet officers whereas the other Trek series would have more supporting characters as Starfleet officers and on the ship since they were more likely to be re-encountered that way. Yes, there were other aliens and enemies they may re-encounter but those appearances were often quite limited. One of my favorite recurring characters in a Trek show was Shran the Andorrian in Enterprise and yet I think his number of appearances was around 9 or so over that whole run. It's the nature of a show with a mobile home base. The stationary base of Deep Space Nine allows for a growing supporting cast and good on the writers for realizing and taking advantage of it. (I was also bugged about a character seemingly being familiar to me on Deep Space Nine and I looked up the actor to find out it was Jeffrey Combs who plays Weyoun of the Vorta who plays Shran in Enterprise. That's why I recognized him. I was surprised to see just how many characters and how much of an impact Combs has had in various Trek series.)

Frankly, the supporting cast often seems to outshine the main cast and may be the biggest secret weapon of DS9's appeal. Dukat, Garak, Rom, Nog, Keiko, Martok, Weyoun, Leeta, Vedek Wynn, Vedek Bareil, and Ziyal all really help liven up the proceedings on the show. Not everyone is a winner though. Eddington took awhile to go anywhere. Cassidy Yates has seemed to fade away and I don't really miss her. The Grand Nagus kind of annoys me with his voice and seems at odds sometimes with this universe and mood of the show. Still, the majority are pretty great so good on the writers. A strong supporting cast like that can really do a lot for a show.

The other interesting thing about DS9 is how much it is interested in Trek history and its mythology. Not only does it show that actions have consequences from the story and situations the characters created for this series find themselves in but it's also willing to do this from storylines in TNG and even the Original Series (particularly the Mirror Universe for which it has been slowly crafting a neat little storyline of its own). If you like TNG then you really do owe it to yourself to watch this series as it is the best sequel to that series as it continues and deals with a lot of elements that show introduced. Voyager went to a completely different area of space with a different tone of survival in uncharted areas with very little crossover with the Trek shows that had come before (or were airing at the same time like DS9). Enterprise was set before all this and was about establishing some of the history that lead to all these other shows. With TNG, I know Roddenberry really didn't want to acknowledge the original series much in the beginning of its run but loosened up on that as the show established itself more as its own thing allowing the writers to delve into some of that past history.

DS9 seems to be the culmination of that as the show becomes a less focused on commenting about contemporary issues through a sci-fi setting or the crew encountering some sci-fi concept. It's focused more on the politics of this universe such as the diplomacy, maneuvering, balance of power, posturing and trying to keep the peace. It's trying to really broaden out the scope of what life might be like in this universe when you are stuck in one place and can't really escape a situation by piloting the starship to a new part of space. It's also interested in expanding what life is like for some of the species in it like Bajorans, Cardassians, Klingons, and Ferengi. That willingness to really get into what has come before really is what makes this show special.

If I had to compare it to another show, I think Person of Interest might be the closest match. It could touch on high sci-fi concepts like AI or social commentary like privacy while engaging in intrigue with different factions and shifting power yet it still did this by showing the growth of the main characters in it how their various actions and past led up to the situations they would face or find themselves in each new mission.

I'm not about to declare it the Best Trek series yet. We'll see how it all plays out and I still have some negatives in my mind about it that I haven't got into much here. However, I will say that after wishing someone would create a new Trek series for over a decade now, finally watching DS9 has felt like that wish being granted. This show has got me fired about Trek again that it's got me thinking about watching Voyager again and finally going through that series to get more of my Trek fix. It's got me thinking about rewatching TNG again since it's probably been 15 years since I've watched that series and I'd like to see those 6 and 7th seasons again to see how they were intermingling with DS9's early work. Recently, the trailer for Star Trek Discovery was released. I must say that I don't have much faith in that show. It looks like its more interested in copying the style and tone of the latest Trek films than in building on further what TNG/DS9 has created for a Trek Universe. Sure, the effects and visuals look great compared to what I'm seeing in DS9 but nothing about indicates the creative forces behind it understand the appeal of these earlier Trek series. Worse, they seem to be making the mistake for which Enterprise got a lot of hate by setting it in the past before TOS. Part of the reason why the Star Wars prequels were rejected by a lot of people is that what people wanted were more stories with the original cast of Luke, Leia, Han and Chewie. Its why the latest sequels have gotten such big buzz and people excited. (Although Force Awakens dropped the ball a lot on that expectation yet, even with that disappointment, the fact that Luke may play a big part of Episode 8 is still getting me excited for this next film). Guess I'll see how DS9 ends soon enough but I don't get why writers don't want to carry on from that point or even go a bit further in the future from it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 02, 2017, 09:54:28 PM
Finally, the other thing I really felt like commenting about it is that while watching the series, it occurred to me that Garak is like the equivalent of me in mafia games. There are quite a few things I could draw a parallel to between my actions and his and it has totally endeared me to his character even more.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 02, 2017, 09:58:09 PM
Garak might be the best character on the show even though he's mostly off to the side. The depth of the cast is incredible, and there's no better testament to Deep Space 9's writing staff than Worf. They fleshed out his character a lot more in 4 seasons than the TNG staff was able to in 7.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2017, 10:03:06 PM
I always liked Keiko on tng. Seems like a genuine down to earth person
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 02, 2017, 10:06:06 PM
I always liked Keiko on tng. Seems like a genuine down to earth person

I have never seen anyone say anything positive about Keiko O'Brien before this post.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on June 02, 2017, 10:14:14 PM
Maybe im thinking of her on MASH instead  ???
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 02, 2017, 11:38:34 PM
What's wrong with Keiko? I rather like the O'Briens. One of the very few married couples in Star Trek. It's kind of nice to see that home life perspective. Everyone else is widowed or constantly hooking up and getting down with whatever hot species catches their eye.

Actually, another thing that seems a bit different with Deep Space 9 is sexuality. For some reason, the Star Trek universe comes across as a sort of chaste universe. At least, I realize that is the impression I've formed on it since DS9 has challenged that notion. Even when there is a romantic subplot of the week and some character falls deeply in love with someone the crew encounters that week, the courtship itself is a bit of kissing, some handholding or hugging and just a lot of talking. I'm probably misremembering things and I'm pretty sure characters in TNG were in bed with one another and T'Pol and Trip were hooking up on Enterprise but, in the end, romances always seemed pretty mild and PG whereas DS9 seems to be more PG-13. Perhaps what truly exemplified the difference for me was an episode where Quark and his Klingon ex-wife show up in Bashir's sick bay for medical treatment due to the wild Klingon sex with Quark a bit battered and then Worf and Dax show up also battered from their wild Klingon sex. In an episode I just finished watching Odo and another changling have a talk about intimacy among the solids versus the great link and the changling is curious about Odo's intimacy with a solid. Now that comes off as awkward because I don't really want to know about Odo's sex life but the show has no problem getting into the topic of character's intimate moments.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 02, 2017, 11:47:23 PM
The more serialized nature of DS9 allowed them to do more with romantic relationships than was really possible in more episodic shows. They could include them as subplots across multiple episodes because the audience was more used to that kind of thing. Worf and Dax, Sisko and Kasidy, even Rom and Leeta, all made possible by the different format. Even the Trip and T'Pol relationship on Enterprise you mentioned really didn't start until that show became more serialized in its later seasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 03, 2017, 01:05:26 AM
Keiko is horrible to O'Brien even when she isn't possessed. She is way too controlling forcing him to do things he clearly don't want to do or eat. She freaks out at him over small things. They shouldn't be together.

But O'Brien's life is suffering so they are a perfect couple.

I like O'Brien. Not bad for a guy who spends most of his time behind a transporter console in TNG.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on June 03, 2017, 01:11:04 AM
Anyone seen the hilarious TNG recut parody videos?



Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 03, 2017, 02:41:27 AM
That is good ****.

There another legendary set called TNG Edits that came out from the early internet think pre-youtube. The original site is gone but it lives on.

This should be fairly complete: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zPyJ7uHdE&list=PLKA_WqdzIF5XlKBO60F4YBW20qElfoQ6y (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2zPyJ7uHdE&list=PLKA_WqdzIF5XlKBO60F4YBW20qElfoQ6y)

Here are some of my favourites from that series.






Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on June 04, 2017, 06:22:59 PM
I tried to get into the Pokemon X and Y anime because i heard people saying it's just as good as the Diamond and Pearl seasons were. Outside of the amazingly detailed and fluid animation I'm just not seeing it.

Diamond and Pearl's excellence comes from it's characters. Dawn is very similar to what Ash was like in the first season and it works out very well. Ash tends to have a sort of student-teacher relationship with the new female companion who comes packaged with each region and it works extremely well here. The dynamic between Ash and Dawn due to how well written their interactions are is incredible and

And then there's Paul. Paul is the first attempt to give Ash a rival since Gary and while Gary was sort of a representation of that cool kid/childhood rival type deal that Ash has to deal with early in the series Paul is a direct challenge to Ash's character and pretty much everything he believes in. It's an absolutely incredible dynamic.


The final battle between Ash and Paul at the end of the series is probably one of the greatest moments in the entire series but it only really works if you've seen their entire rivalry to the end.

Basically the Diamond and Pearl seasons are actually legitimately good and worth watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 19, 2017, 10:30:34 PM
Toonami perennial favorite Outlaw Star just came out on BluRay last week, & my copy finally arrived today. Man, this show really holds up. Just pure adventure fun & solid comedy. The new HD transfer is as excellent as I'd hoped, as much like Escaflowne the original DVD transfer was pretty terrible. Gray "blacks", dark rooms that appeared to just be muddy, drunken hazes, etc. It's kind of strange seeing the show now with true blacks & corrected loghting, but damn if the show's art style doesn't look great & clean now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 20, 2017, 04:33:14 PM
American Gods has ended its first season, and is already renewed for the second. Both Gods and Westworld have had incredibly polished and gorgeous visuals in their debut seasons, but Gods had an incredible cast (especially Ian McShane and Orlando Jones) that gelled almost immediately and simply ramped up with a chemistry that improved over time - Gillian Anderson as Media as David Bowie was just an incredible sight.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on June 21, 2017, 12:14:11 PM
Anyone here been watching Better Call Saul?  Won't go into details if no one else is, but wow. 


If you liked Breaking Bad, I think it's a fair guess you'll enjoy this.  At least, if you're ok with some parts being slower than others.  The best part is that it's not JUST focused on Saul, they devote a lot of good time developing so many of the characters in the show, and the season finale just ended with some pretty crazy closing imagery.


Definitely hope they come back with a season 4, there are so many questions I need answered by this show.  I haven't seen many other shows that I enjoy the way they handle character development like these shows do.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 21, 2017, 11:17:47 PM
I've been watching Better Call Saul since it first began airing. It's been a bit of an odd dichotomy at times with it's decision to also follow Mike's beginnings in New Mexico as they have been rather separate paths aside from some brief meet-ups here and there. It took a while to start building up its world in Season 1 but it's been so well put together that I've still enjoyed it while others were getting restless and wondering if there was a point to it during that time.

As well, knowing the future outcome for some of these characters can sometimes affect the viewing of this show. For instance, it was revealed that the writers were getting ready to introduce Gus Fring at the end of season 2 and they even had the anagram of the reveal hidden in the episode titles for Season 2 but decided to cut that meet thinking it might overshadow the latest development in the Chuck/Jimmy feud. That was fine. Even without the reveal, BB viewers knew the Don't probably came from Gus. When Season 3 started, it was well known that Gus was now going to be appearing again. In the first episode, though, they didn't just have Gus meet Mike. They showed the process of Mike trying to figure out how he was tracked. It was a logical story development and how Mike worked out how to turn the tables was an enjoyable process. But then in episode 2, we watch Mike follow someone else around and finally he come to the Los Pollos restaurant. Then he stakes out, uses Jimmy which results in his investigation being exposed and is confronted about it. In episode 3, he finally comes face to face with Gus and they begin their partnership, in a way. The difference is that unlike in episode 1, there was still the problem of how does Mike meet Gus which was solved in the tracking device solution. While episode 2's action makes sense perhaps in a logical progression of events, it wasn't as intriguing as episode 2. At that point, I just kind of wanted the show to get on with it. Mike has gotten this close just have him meet Gus already and let's get on to better action. The show seems really intent on showing the whole detailed process sometimes which can have this appeal/repeal reaction in me when watching. Sometimes it works and the process is engaging and sometimes it feels unnecessary and maybe the creative team is overdoing it.

Likewise, with Nacho, once it became clear early on this season that he didn't want Hector involving his father, a lot of viewers guessed that maybe he might be the reason Hector would end up in a wheelchair and that view was solidified even further when he started looking into capsules to replace Hector's medication. We know the end result for Hector but we don't know the end result for Nacho. Yet, even though we know the endpoint for Hector and can suspect where the story is going because there are unknowns in that we don't know what happens to Nacho nor do we know for sure that swapping the pills would be what brings down Hector, the moment when Nacho makes the swap is still a bit thrilling for the viewer. However, there's a bit of a letdown when the swap doesn't have an immediate effect. It probably makes sense and leads to Nacho's dad still getting involved with Hector a bit but, at this point, we are just waiting for Hector to have his stroke. It's getting dragged out almost too long.

Still, it is incredible to see more and more the interconnectivity of how all these various people are impacting one another more and more and how the reverberations of those actions pull us closer to the Breaking Bad versions and end result. In the end, though, this season's primary plotline was Jimmy vs Chuck and it was episode 5 that was the most powerful in that plotline. It felt like the climax almost of what the show had been building on and towards since episode 1 of season 1. After that, it was just a lot of characters dealing with the fallout of that clash and almost a new beginning as changes were made to the status quo of a lot of characters in Jimmy's orbit. The final episode of season 3 felt like the end of the process of stripping down Jimmy's old life (no more shared office, no more elder law, being told to embrace what he's good at, no more brother...) yet surprisingly there was an uptick in how things were going with him and Kim and they seemed to be in a better place than they had been almost all season. I was not expecting that.

That said, the real surprise was the ending of Chuck. Having been a real heel since about episode 9 of Season 1 and kind of taking the role of villain in the Jimmy portion of the show, it is surprising how well the writers were still able to generate sympathy for Chuck in the end. Kim being unhappy with what happened to him, his realization of his condition and trying to get better helped ease up the viewers dislike towards him. Yet, he then lashed out at the insurance agents and Howard and his further rejection of Jimmy or being able to recognize any fault on his part in their relationship lead to vilifying himself again. But then you saw the consequences and how that seemed to affect him. Unable or unwilling to seek forgiveness for what he said to Jimmy or even acknowledge any guilt for his behaviour, it seems to have manifested itself as the true reason for his disorder and causes his descent back into madness which doesn't bring about any sense of joy in the viewer. It would have been far preferable to see Chuck try to make amends rather than go out the broken man he is at the end. (Although some might disagree and feel he got what he deserved.)

Going back to my earlier point of this show sometimes foreshadowing or announcing its intent ahead of time and then we just watch and wait for it to happen, the final episode title this season was Lantern and it had been known for some 3 - 4 weeks before the episode aired. Thus, there was a lot of speculation that Chuck might meet his demise this episode in a fire by the gas lantern that was constantly referenced through this season and the previous ones. However, there was a lot of speculation and theories as to how or why. To my knowledge, no one predicted the path the show ended up making. Even when watching the episode, the cold open homes in on a gas lantern and then it's pretty much forgotten. When Jimmy visits Chuck, there seems to be no danger of him dying by a fire caused from the gas lantern he used to use. Even as we witness his mental breakdown, such an outcome still doesn't seem forthcoming. In fact, near the end, as Jimmy is making Kim breakfast, I suddenly realized the episode was almost over and the only lantern shown so far was in the cold open. Was this a trick by the writers after people figured out the Fring's Back anagram of last year? And then that ending scene happened and the realization of the fire trap that Chuck created for himself is instantly apparent and despite expecting this outcome for awhile, it still comes as a shock and tragedy.

I was thinking about commenting on Better Call Saul earlier but I was still processing that ending. In some ways, the show has almost been about Jimmy, Mike and Chuck. Chuck has had a huge impact on Jimmy's world and a major factor in a lot of his choices and now he's gone. I wonder how the writers are going to fill that void. It is sad to see Chuck go. I was actually secretly hoping that maybe Chuck might re-appear in the future and find Jimmy at Cinnebon and maybe even help him get out of the trouble he faces post-Breaking Bad as a way to make-up and re-do the assistance he could have offered Jimmy the first time he did that and Jimmy moved to New Mexico to show his thanks and turn his life around. But that potential happy ending is not to be.


It is a curious thing about this show. Where is it headed? Breaking Bad had a clear goal. The transformation of Walter White from law-abiding to criminal and his rise and fall. What is the story of Jimmy? Is there redemption at the end? Can there be redemption? A facing of his consequences? Each season gives us the glimpse of life after Breaking Bad and yet to what end?

Well, you got me posting all manner of thoughts I've had on this show and this season since I really haven't been talking about it much so I've got a lot to say. However, I'll just wrap up by saying that I hope the writers don't delay the transformation of Jimmy into Saul much longer. I've honestly enjoyed the Jimmy portion more than the Mike but the decision to have Jimmy on probation from practicing law for a year is a bit frustrating. I like to see Jimmy/Saul defending guilty clients. Episode 2 of season 2 where Jimmy helps the nerdy drug dealer ward off suspicion from the police with his Peach Cobbler story are what I was hoping to see more of when the BCS spin-off was first announced and I'd love to see various episodes with him coming up with such creative solutions to get out of legal entanglements. As Chuck said, Jimmy should do what he is best at and hopefully the writers will allow that to happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 22, 2017, 04:33:13 AM
And if Better Call Saul isn't your thing, I'm now 9 episodes into Season 7 of DS9. 17 to go! The end is near!

Even though we just had a bit of a discussion on it, there's some other things I'll mention now that more has developed.

Let's start with Keiko and Molly. Still don't get the dislike Keiko that came up last time. However, I recently saw the episode where Molly gets transported to the future and becomes a feral girl. This brought about some points. I've meant to mention but always forgot about it since it is a minor point but the child who plays Molly is a terrible actress. Ha ha ha. I mean, she is just a little kid so I'm not going really criticize the kid for it but when I watch her scenes, it ruins the illusion that you're watching something real and you suddenly become aware that you are watching some actors doing a scene. In my head, I'm imagining the director coaching Molly of where to look or what to say just out of view of the camera. It reached a perfect storm in the beginning when Molly falls into the time portal with cheesy effects and her "acting" scared. But then the episode had an older Molly and I thought that was the writers way of removing the younger Molly so they didn't have to use the young child anymore. But nope, they brought the young Molly back at the end.

However, on the other hand, I was impressed with Rosalind Chao who plays Keiko and how well she plays her part and does a lot of the emotional heavy lifting and concern despite not really being around much as this character. It's one of the odd things about DS9. When it started, the O'Briens were a big focus in the first couple seasons but then they had Keiko do her thing on Bajor and then she and Molly would pop up on a rare occasion. Then she came back and they did the baby thing with Kira which was a weird solution to incorporate Nana Visitor's pregnancy into the show. Then she disappeared again and I had become so use to Miles as a bachelor that when she reappeared in this episode it was this weird shock of why isn't Miles with his family more. It was mentioned that she came back because it was relatively safe enough after war broke out (and she may have also left when Dukat took over Cardassia with the Dominion as there were a lot of people fleeing from the coming Dominion invasion fleet.) As much as we take about the growth of a lot of characters over the course of the show and remembering and using elements of past episodes to build its lore and move its storylines, the disappearance and random appearances of Miles family does stick out. Sometimes it seems the Miles is just a bachelor like Julian and they can hang out all the time together and sometimes he's suddenly a family man with family responsibilities. Moreover, it just seems convenient that Miles can dump his family off here and there while you still have Jake and Benjamin sticking together and around the station through these tough times along with Quark, Rom, Nog and Leeta all together as well. To me, I think there could have been some interesting story and drama done with Miles caring for his family through this but maybe Rosalind was busy with other work or the writers just preferred not to think about and incorporate Miles family.

I learned the non-talking alien is called Morn. I honestly thought his name was Lorne. It always sounded like that was how people were pronouncing his name. It wasn't until an episode sort of about him aired that I learned how it was spelt and that was his name. I do like how the writers clued in to him and started making jokes around him by not having him speak or having characters talk about him and some of the antics he's supposed to have engaged in which we don't see on screen. When I was first watching this show, he always stood out in the background because of how different he looked from other aliens that were there and it made the show feel kind of cheap like they weren't able to find other costumes and just kept reusing this one. However, he must have caught the attention of a lot of other fans who must have asked about him causing the show to name him and start giving him little moments with other characters. That said, I think the show has reached past the point of keeping him silent. The Morn episode really made that silent ploy rather forced particularly at the end. It's like Link from the Legend of Zelda has come to DS9.

Since I'm at this point in the series, I want to know about this comment from oohhboy:

Bajorians are dumb but you will understand why when that character appears and you will hate them.

Alright. Which character are you referring to? Veddik Kai Winn? I don't get the statement because I've never found the Bajorans dumb nor have I hated them. (Well, the only thing I've hated about them is their clothing. I keep hoping Bajor would be inducted into the Federation so we don't have to see those beige uniforms anymore although it makes sense for a planet that was pillaged of resources for 50 years. There may not be a lot of fashion choices available for mass production.)

In all honesty, general comments I've often seen about Deep Space Nine before watching it are how the prophets subplot got old or was used a bit much yet I haven't had much of a problem with it until recently. Part of that is from leaving things about the Prophets/Wormhole Aliens a bit vague and part of it being that characters aren't recalling events from past episodes making some religious debates pointless.

On the other hand, the storyline which is often praised more was the Dominion storyline and while there are lots of plot points to like from it, I find it a bit lacking in some ways. Part of the problem is never having a clear understanding of just how strong or weak the Dominion is. It seems to vary all the time. Plus, it would help if there was clear understanding of just what the borders and territories of the Alpha Quadrant looked like to know just what kind of advances and retreats are happening. What is the situation actually like? Where are the alliances winning and where are they losing? It can be hard to appreciate the stakes of the situation aside from the broad terms of the Federation is in trouble or the Dominion is pushed back to Cardassian space. Moreover, there are still things about the Dominion that could use explaining. If they do take over the Alpha Quadrant then what? What is their goal or purpose? If the Alpha Quadrant was under their rule, how would that be bad? Cardassia has been under their rule but it's not like they are subjecting the Cardassians. In fact, they have made the Cardassians stronger than they were for some time. I keep hoping for a bit more fleshing out of their motivations and thinking but with few episodes remaining, I'm beginning to worry that such answers may never truly be given.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 22, 2017, 07:15:58 AM
Some of what you're saying in those last two paragraphs will be addressed in the remaining episodes.

Also, Morn's name was picked as an anagram of Norm, as in the character from Cheers, because he's always sitting there at the end of the bar, and there was the running joke that he never stopped talking, even though he never talked onscreen, and I believe the costume didn't allow for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on June 22, 2017, 01:41:17 PM
Ah, I never thought about flipping the name around. Makes sense. I like the reference.

A couple other things that I was going to mention but it was late and I'd already made a long post.

Kira and Odo. When the show first decided to start revealing that Odo had feelings for Kira somewhere in Season 3, I was against the idea. It didn't seem like a good match and I was hoping this wouldn't start down this path of them eventually getting together. And for a long time, it kept them separate and it just seemed like it was part of Odo's character to have this unrequited love that he was unwilling or maybe aware of Kira's feelings not to act on. Even when his love for Kira was revealed, it wasn't really reciprocated and nothing happened in them suddenly getting together and I was fine with that. But finally they forced the issue and have put them together and.... I'm still not really sold on it. While the characters seem happy enough with each other, I don't really see or feel much chemistry with them. The pairing of Dax and Worf worked out great but this Odo / Kira pairing is meh.

I honestly think the best match for Kira is/was Vedek Bareil. His personality, while a bit opposite of Kira's, meshed well with hers. There was an episode in which a Mirror Universe Bareil appeared on the station and, despite having been gone for about three seasons, having him and Kira reunite reminded me that they made a pretty good match and I was really hoping he'd stick around but back to the Mirror Universe he went. Of course, the start of Bareil and Kira's relationship was initially rather odd and seemed weird but I grew to like it so maybe I'll come around on Odo and Kira eventually but, considering some of the other events that have happened between them, I just don't see why they'd have ever hooked up. On one other brief aside, it's nice to see Kira promoted to Colonel, although it sounds a bit odd, but it would have been nice to get a reason or ceremony for her. We got to see Sisko celebrate his promotion, why can't Kira get a celebration?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 22, 2017, 04:06:31 PM
Yesterday marked one year since Person of Interest aired its series finale, so i decided to watch it again. Yes its still amazing, and since then only Agents of Shield's recent season is the closest in terms of narrative confidence that came close.

Preacher, Dark Matter, Killjoys and Doctor Who are all still on (or starting soon) so i still have things to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 22, 2017, 09:31:56 PM
I really need to watch Person of Interest. Might make that my new non-humor show for the summer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 22, 2017, 10:53:55 PM
Catching up on the DC CW shows' latest seasons. God, I hate Supergirl. I thought it was on the upswing last season towards the end, but this season has just been aggravating with its focus on pushing politics. I wouldn't mind it so much if it was done well, but political discussion requires a soft touch to come across as meaningful. See almost the entirety of The West Wing, and that show was written by one of the best writers in Television before he went nuts. These writers were hired to write a show about punching aliens & throwing cars, & they're not even particularly great at that, so they approach the complicated, argumentative world of politics with all the subtlety of a rocket launcher. They're simply not GOOD at this. I was ready to throw something heavy through a wall when I heard "Make Daxom Great Again", because it just immediately took me out of the show.

Around Ep. 17 of all the shows, except LoT, which I've finished. LoT was fine, overall. I have mixed feelings about this season of Arrow & Flash. Lot of characters just spinning in place repeating old character arcs on both shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 23, 2017, 05:29:10 AM
Flash was spinning its wheels over and over repeatedly this season while the sense of fun is still simply missing. Arrow at least had storylines away from Oliver which helped the rest of the cast look busy. Both shows suffer from too many episodes though.

"Make Daxom Great Again"

Which was worse, that line or the gun control episode in Arrow?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 23, 2017, 07:31:37 AM
Flash was spinning its wheels over and over repeatedly this season while the sense of fun is still simply missing. Arrow at least had storylines away from Oliver which helped the rest of the cast look busy. Both shows suffer from too many episodes though.

"Make Daxom Great Again"

Which was worse, that line or the gun control episode in Arrow?

That line. Arrow, to its credit, at least tried to have a debate on the issue, and in the end tackled the matter straight down the center. They even admitted that no gun control laws could have stopped the person who murdered the villain's family, since they obtained their guns immediately.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on June 23, 2017, 11:51:36 AM
Khush, since we're the only ones on the Better Call Saul discussion, I'll spoiler my whole text just in case so I don't have to cherry pick where to block text.





If you aren't yet, I'd strongly suggest you give the Better Call Saul Insider podcast a listen.  While they'll often deviate into some of their set-up/planning a shot, they also dive deep pretty often into how they write the characters, why they go the pace they do, and more often than not, they CLAIM they write the story arcs more based on a basic premise of - who are these people?  what are their motivations? what are their obstacles?  what would they do to meet their objectives based in reality of who they are and the world they're in?  I think they largely follow that ethos in the actual storytelling, including the fact that there is generally a time lapse between when a person's motivation is established and when their efforts bear fruit. 


For Jimmy's transformation into Saul?  I'd argue Saul is more of "who he is" than the elder law premise/work he established himself doing.  His scheming in Chicago as a younger man, his lamenting his hard-working parents getting screwed for being hard working, helpful, honest people, and that being motivation that he's never going to allow himself to be the one getting screwed.  The seasons so far have largely him being tethered towards doing "good" by seeking his brother's approval and his interest in pursuing Kim as a love interest when she has been a straight arrow until she got caught up in him.  His handling of the sandpiper case is the perfect study for who he is - a smart legal mind who can't handle working in the normal procedure of law.  So with Chuck's apparent demise, I suspect season 4 would induce the kind of unraveling towards being his true self, with him burning his elder law bridges at the end of this season.


I took Chuck's downfall despite his progress more as a reality that it only takes one or two bad choice or outcomes to make someone with a mental illness relapse.  As he's trying so hard to get well so we can go back to practicing law, he encounters a Howard that has reached his limit to him, so much that he has taken money out of his own pocket and loans to buy-out Chuck's share of the practice.  He says the worst thing he can to Jimmy when Kim's accident makes him reconsider how important his brother still is to him - not that he hates him, even worse, he doesn't care one way or another about him.  That and Chuck's inherent unwillingness to admit fault bring him tumbling down to where his illness re-emerges to that awful sequence. 


Chuck's motivations I've never quite understood, other than a basic need to prove he's better than Jimmy.  They have a very clear older/younger brother relationship, because at the same time, the younger brother (Jimmy) wants nothing more than his brother's respect.  He gets a law degree, then tries to hold Jimmy down from getting a law degree.  He purposefully keeps Jimmy from being promoted within HHM as a practicing lawyer, sets a plan in motion to catch Jimmy in a trap, and uses a plea deal for him to relinquish his license.  I think you can think he's in the right for some of his actions, but still think he's a jerk.  Because of all of this, Chuck's end is pretty tragic, even if I generally didn't like his character.





I will say, while I understand some people don't like the slow pace some episodes have in this show, I've come to appreciate how they seem to slow-roll, let the story take its time. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 23, 2017, 07:12:16 PM
Finished Arrow Season 5, and...wow, this season was a severe step down from last season. For one thing, it feels like everyone's character growth reverted a season. It feels like last season should have been a natural progression from THIS season. The flashbacks continued, even more tedious & pointless than ever, and Prometheus is so stupidly OP/ "such a master strategist" that it felt like I was watching mediocre dreck like Young Justice, where every episode ended with the villains saying "all according to plan."

Half the season was spent retreading character arcs from previous seasons, & the other half was was the characters fighting against a villain protected by plot armor. Lame. The entire season just felt joyless & repetitive.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 23, 2017, 11:27:46 PM
Thats a pity, as I had hoped S5 would be a great closure on Oliver's flashbacks from the island. One season for every year he was "stranded". I had even hoped for a nice finale/series type closure. Maybe not an end to the series, but a good closure where they could logically re-frame the show in a new era/style of sorts. But on all accounts, S3 sounds like a better "closing" than S5 was, which is a shame.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 26, 2017, 02:28:16 AM
Girlboss 8/10 A pretty enjoyable show. It has unlikable characters(though, those type of personalities I find attractive), but that doesn't make the show less entertaining. Pity I was finally watching it just as they were cancelling it. It also has a pretty terrible name, which is why I didn't watch it at first. But, on the other hand I'm interested in entrepreneurial starting a business biopics.  It was like Ghostbusters, except Peter Venkman is selling dresses.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 28, 2017, 01:18:08 AM
Agents of Shield is on Netflix! Already started and loving the new season. Excited to see where it goes because of all the positive reviews on here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2017, 08:40:20 AM
Please post impressions and you progress. the season was so good, and just when you thought it peaked.... they switched it up, and it got even better.

The 3 arc format was amazing this season. really helped w/ the story and pacing of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 28, 2017, 03:28:14 PM
Welcome back Preacher. THE SEARCH FOR GOD. DAY ONE cannot get any simpler than that.

Dominic Cooper and Ruth Negga have amazing chemistry together even when silent - but then it helps they've been together for 7 years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 28, 2017, 09:19:12 PM
Please post impressions and you progress. the season was so good, and just when you thought it peaked.... they switched it up, and it got even better.

The 3 arc format was amazing this season. really helped w/ the story and pacing of the show.


We are on episode 3 or 4 and I'm really loving it so far. I like that there is some mystery, but not so much it bludgeons you over the head. Also happy to see Yo-Yo getting a more prominent role, as she is a favorite for my wife. Ghost Rider is awesome, though I miss his bike, hoping that makes an appearance down the road.


Any annoyance I had with Daisy in earlier seasons is gone, and I just love Fitz-Simmons and Mack.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 29, 2017, 01:04:29 AM
Please post impressions and you progress. the season was so good, and just when you thought it peaked.... they switched it up, and it got even better.

The 3 arc format was amazing this season. really helped w/ the story and pacing of the show.


We are on episode 3 or 4 and I'm really loving it so far. I like that there is some mystery, but not so much it bludgeons you over the head. Also happy to see Yo-Yo getting a more prominent role, as she is a favorite for my wife. Ghost Rider is awesome, though I miss his bike, hoping that makes an appearance down the road.


Any annoyance I had with Daisy in earlier seasons is gone, and I just love Fitz-Simmons and Mack.

You're in for a treat.... I wish I could watch it again for the first time, AND binge it at my own pace without having to wait a week... or weeks inbetween eps and arcs. But I didn't have the patience to wait that long.

And even thought I think GR is a really good opening arc, IMO it just gets better from there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on June 29, 2017, 09:11:56 AM
Please post impressions and you progress. the season was so good, and just when you thought it peaked.... they switched it up, and it got even better.

The 3 arc format was amazing this season. really helped w/ the story and pacing of the show.


We are on episode 3 or 4 and I'm really loving it so far. I like that there is some mystery, but not so much it bludgeons you over the head. Also happy to see Yo-Yo getting a more prominent role, as she is a favorite for my wife. Ghost Rider is awesome, though I miss his bike, hoping that makes an appearance down the road.


Any annoyance I had with Daisy in earlier seasons is gone, and I just love Fitz-Simmons and Mack.


The newest season of Agents of Shield goes in a lot of weird places, in the best ways.  Any squabbles I had about it at the time of watching it were minor ones.  Definitely worth a watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 02, 2017, 11:47:32 PM
I just started season 5 of POI.  It truly is a great show.  I can tell the show is better to marathon...and you could skip some episodes.  But starting with season 3 it is really great...even the cheesy campy parts work.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 03, 2017, 02:27:03 AM
There isn't really any episodes you can miss as each one adds to the overall arc, builds characters and the world. Basically there are no "Irrelevant" episodes just some poorly made ones. IU really wish they had a full final season with a proper budget. There are a lot of things that get dropped or heavily sidelined that isn't helped by NBC(?) mandating continuing the serial format instead of letting them finish up the story free of that particular constraint.

Go watch Westworld after. It is a sort of spiritual sequel in they sense it has AIs, a lot of the same moral questions and it has Nolan behind it. Plus it is a stunning show with unbelievable Olympic level acting from just about everyone and oh gad you are going to love Ford.

Don't straight up marathon it. Watch a episode, let it brew a little then watch the next.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 03, 2017, 03:36:53 PM
I'd argue that there's some episodes in season 1 and 2 a few after Elias is introduced and a handful from season 2, but from season 3 onwards when you hit the first three parter of eps from there the show becomes almost continually serialised.

There are a lot of things that get dropped or heavily sidelined that isn't helped by NBC(?) mandating continuing the serial format instead of letting them finish up the story free of that particular constraint.

CBS forced them to keep the numbers of the week into late season 4 and beyond, which coupled with things around that time meant the show stumbled a little bit. Not having a full season 5 really hurt it badly too.

Plus POI is one of the few shows where it had a completely satisfying series finale, and even a year after it's ended some of its storylines are still coming true the virus in the finale causing worldwide damage happened last month.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 04, 2017, 04:11:25 AM
See I think the numbers is whar ground the show.  There is a much bigger threat but the team has and should be protecting the individual first.  Once they stop doing that...they stop being the machines assets to protect humanity and stop showing the machine that all human life is valuable.  Plus you also begin to see the computer intelligently and covertly communicating and fighting the bigger fight through the numbers.  This is something it appears Samaritan can't predict.  It is like a blindspot.  Final thought the show even discusses this debate about the numbers with Root and Herald.  He always chooses the human equation even when it is a dangerous choice.  The numbers are never irrelevant...even if the audience wishes they were.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 07, 2017, 11:08:58 AM
American Gods has ended its first season, and is already renewed for the second. Both Gods and Westworld have had incredibly polished and gorgeous visuals in their debut seasons, but Gods had an incredible cast (especially Ian McShane and Orlando Jones) that gelled almost immediately and simply ramped up with a chemistry that improved over time - Gillian Anderson as Media as David Bowie was just an incredible sight.

I find West World is the better of the two as it is alot easier to follow since it establishes rules while American gods has none or not as apparent due to the setting. Although this aspect does slowly get better while still playing very fast and loose.

AG is visually impressive or at least diverse due to them having a a far wider canvas to paint with. However the overall quality of the effects isn't quite there mostly because of the sloppy composition.

I knew of Ian McShane from John Wick where he plays a god or as close to one a mortal can be. He is is delightful but it's not really a fair fight putting him up against Hopkins who also plays a god of sorts. I would not have picked out Gillian Anderson if I didn't already pick that up from your post so damn good job from her not that she doesn't slip just a little here and there.

I do like how the show pretty much shits on Christianity as being useless while making jokes and brings in much more marginal believe systems into play which is far more interesting than feeding Christian exceptionalism.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 24, 2017, 04:09:48 PM
Wynonna Earp (especially season 2) is such cheesy fun. A great little series to watch and not think about too much.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on July 30, 2017, 12:36:17 AM
Has there been any good new Anime lately?

I watched Castlevania which was pretty good. It incorporated alot of game elements without shoeing horning. Dracula is very sympathetic until he does what he does because there wouldn't be a story otherwise. It looks quite nice and has a distinctive western style with it's fixed frames, precise gore and especially with it's strong lip syncing.

Being the Dark Ages it is delightful that another show shits on Christianity for being awful(Not that modern incarnation is much better).

The characters are good managing to get some development in the 4 episodes. It introduces many characters but they are all quite distinct, easy to remember. Great casting with no money being spent on expensive on "Star power".
It is delightful that this has been adapted well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 30, 2017, 01:08:03 AM
UFC 214 - God damn, Bones is back! Whooped DC's ass, gave an amazing speech afterwards, then called out Brock Lesnar. What a badass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 30, 2017, 02:00:24 AM
I just finished Netflixvania as well, and I thought it was pretty...average, I guess. The writing's pretty decent, but the voice acting's all over the place & the art and animation are pretty mediocre. Reminds me of those EA direct-to-DVD movies (Dragon Age, Dead Space, Dante's Inferno, etc.).

On the story side, it was neat seeing influence from several different versions of Castlevania, including Lords of Shadow. I'm actually kind of surprised that they bothered to include the Mirror of Fate from the LoS games. I didn't really care for Trevor till late into the 3rd episode, though. Up until that point, he comes off as a half-assed Tyrion Lannister.

Overall, it's a decent foundation but I REALLY hope the second season has a MUCH bigger budget to go with that larger episode count, because I've seen better art & animation in early 2000s anime.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 08, 2017, 02:39:00 AM
GoT S7E4 = HOLY ****!!! RETREAT!!!

OMG. **** was crazy. I should have waited till Sunday afternoon to watch this episode so I can immediately watch the next one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 08, 2017, 03:24:07 PM
Agreed, it was a great battle. Proved Bron was a much bigger badass than seen previously.


People are thinking Drogon will die from an infection in the wound, just as his namesake Khal Drogo did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 08, 2017, 03:30:52 PM
I'm ignoring this season of GOT until the season's all out & I have a chance to watch it with my best friend (who's been watching the series with me up until now).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 08, 2017, 11:32:41 PM
Yeah that episode was ridiculous. I watched it when it leaked (didn't have access to HBO while I was away) but had to re-watch the battle scene this afternoon on HBO GO on my TV. So badass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 14, 2017, 04:12:32 PM
Goodbye Orphan Black. For a series that was too complicated and often collapsed under its own plot at times (season 3 in particular), Tatiana Maslany is a stunning actress who is so good that you actually forget she is playing multiple characters (sometimes at once) on the same show.

Tatiana Maslany playing Sarah who is impersonating Alison, or any of the other combinations is just a joy to watch. You actually see the ticks and accents of both characters fall over each other as one struggles to impersonate the other.

I hope she moves onto better things because she is definitely one of the best actresses of recent times.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 15, 2017, 10:14:54 PM
The destruction of everything decent - 0/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 16, 2017, 08:39:33 PM
Game of Thrones Season 7 Episode 6 (yes the leaked one) - HOLY ****/10
Holy fucking ****. Daenerys is Jon's queen, and it seems like he is her king. That's all good and well, but Jesus Fucking Christ, the Night King killed Viserion and now the army of the dead have their own fucking dragon! There's still one more episode to go, but season 7 is going to be fucking nuts!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 16, 2017, 11:01:37 PM
OMG I read that spoiler (totally shouldn't have)... I told my wife this could happen and she laughed it off as ridiculous.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 16, 2017, 11:13:02 PM
Now you must watch! I heard a lot of people predicting that recently, oddly enough. Go watch!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 17, 2017, 09:48:51 PM
I would be butchered by my wife if I watch without her, but she's acting weird. I think she cheated on me and watched it, because she always laughed about my undead ice dragon theory and now she is much more interested in my theories and thoughts about GOT than usual... HAVE I BEEN CHEATED ON?!?

I'll see if I can get a copy early and sit down with her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2017, 02:15:45 PM
I watched the 1st 4 eps of The Defenders.

took many restarts to get through the 1st 2 episodes (late night or too early in the morning starts) but it got pretty entertaining about halfway through the 3rd and throughout the 4th.

JJ and her mouth. LOL
LC telling IF about WP = LOL

I'm really wondering how LC is gonna end up banging Elektra (and/or Colleen) before the show is over, since he's nailed every other main actress of age on the show so far. j/k that ain't happening.

I'm looking forward to the final 4. IF is portrayed better in this one, and the fights are choreographed much better this time around. Not perfect, but certainly much better than what was going on in IF.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 19, 2017, 06:45:07 PM
We sat down and watched GOT 7-6 last night and OMG it was crazy. Can't wait to watch it all again. Things are going crazy fast.


Also wrapped up Luke Cage and really loved how it all went. Its a good run. Now I'm wrapping up Iron Fist, hoping to complete that in the next week so I can start Defenders.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 20, 2017, 12:59:51 AM
The Defenders (entire first season...or entire mini-series) - 7/10
It was pretty good, not as good as Daredevil though. I never watched Jessica Jones, Luke Cage, or Iron Fist...and now I don't need to. I'm glad that it was only 8 episodes, The Hand is getting old. I'm also glad that Elektra killed Stick, that guy was always the worst part about Daredevil - though it was pretty cool when he cut off his own hand. Surprising number of decapitations in the show, which was cool and unexpected. Definitely worth a watch, especially if you want to be caught up for the beginning of the next season of Daredevil, and probably all of the other shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 22, 2017, 06:15:29 PM
Jessica Jones and Luke Cage are great. You're missing out. You can skip Iron Fist. I enjoyed Iron Fist when I watched it, but it isn't as good as the other two, and less essential overall.

And really the way I look at it, the whole super series was the defenders all along and this is really defenders season 6
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 22, 2017, 09:46:55 PM
I finished The Defenders on Sunday, and I can't really defend the show, but it just was. I wasn't blown away, I didn't walk away hyped, excited, or even just happy... it was just, over.

I don't know what it was, it wasn't like I disliked it, because I enjoyed it enough to marathon it in 2.5 days. I'm not sure what I expected out of a TV series on a TV series budget, but this certainly was no Avengers on TV moment. It just feels like for all the time they had to put this mini-series together, it could have been better, and the reduced episode count should have amounted to a higher budget per episode for some even wilder and crazier comic action on my TV screen.

Overall, I enjoyed it, and I would recommend it to anyone on that Marvel fix, but i hope they execute better for The Defenders 2.

DD S3 and Punisher better knock it out the park.
I got high hopes for LC S2 and hope for a more exciting JJ S2 as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on August 23, 2017, 04:30:24 AM
I don't think I'll be able to do Punisher.  It looks very graphically violent.  I won't be able to stomach it lol (yes I know I'm a sook)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 23, 2017, 04:34:26 AM
The Defenders really wasn't the best series in the Marvel line.

One thing about having binge-iness qualities is that they can make the episodes whatever length. I feel like they didn't use their time well. It also feels like a seriously cut budget. I think this meetup should have felt more like a movie.

Like the end battle location just looks like the took a warehouse and covered it with foam

Hopefully on the next round things escalate and we have an enemy better than the hand. Also, hope characters develop a little more.

I think an enemy seriously has to beat Danny's ass for him to get good. He think's he's good, but he's just cocky/fanatic. I'm looking at the enemies for Iron Fist...and they all sort of suck. Maybe they ought to make up an original one for season 2.

(http://www.everythingaction.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/shonuff.jpg)

If I were in charge of Iron Fist season 2. Iron Fist needs to get into battle with a big bad Shonuff type character. Get his ass beat. Find an old wise master. Train with that master. Learn new techniques. Learn how to effectively use his chi. Get Good. And defeat the big bad. Though not entirely because the big bad has to get away to be in future ****.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunken_Tai_Chi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Karate_Kid
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocky_III
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_Rises

This plotline works. This also made me realize Luke Cage was Star Wars.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 23, 2017, 03:53:04 PM
Elektra was against Luke in episode 5, yet he was fighting defensively trying to avoid the sword, and she threw HIM?.

Both of those shouldn't be happening.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 27, 2017, 01:05:55 AM
McGregor vs Mayweather - surprisingly good fight. Would have been nice to see them go the full 12 rounds McGregor can take a punch, if this was UFC they wouldn't have stopped it yet, but it was still a lot of fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on August 28, 2017, 12:31:44 PM
Season 7 of Game of Thrones was good. It just moved too quickly. I felt that they could have used a full season (three more episodes) to flesh out the story and give more weight to what's happening. I wonder if this is because the show has moved past the books and George R. R. Martin only gave David Benioff and D. B. Weiss so much of what's left in the last two books, or because Benioff and Weiss felt they had to shorten the season to get the set pieces they wanted so instead of a few bottle episodes, they just cut them entirely. Maybe it was both. It's a shame. Dorne, for example, had no pay off despite spending a lot of time there a couple seasons ago.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 28, 2017, 07:21:12 PM
Well as far as we know, the Sand Snakes are still alive, so maybe there's more to that story to come.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 29, 2017, 07:44:40 PM
Well as far as we know, the Sand Snakes are still alive, so maybe there's more to that story to come.


Only one for sure alive is Elaria Sand. Too much time has passed for the last daughter of Oberyn, as the poison would have killed her by now. We saw the bodies of the other two at the end of the battle where Euron killed them.
I actually thought that Bronn and Jamie might have saved them because of their history and a desire to counteract Cersei's craziness, but unless it happened off-screen, the only one left is Elaria.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 29, 2017, 07:49:29 PM
Finished Defenders, it was a blast. I need to compile a large review of all the Netflix shows since I have finished them all, but had fun with the show.


Makes me excited for all of the upcoming new seasons of the separate shows, and a hope the next Defender series comes soon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 06, 2017, 12:19:10 AM
I'm getting into The Tick! It's kind of its own animal compared to the cartoon or the older show, but darn if it isn't still entertaining.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 06, 2017, 12:42:40 PM
The Tick animated is just great, a real childhood classic. It does suffer from repeating a joke or catch phrase like SPOON and that whatever animal they picked up.

The live show is pretty good but they don't do much super heroing no doubt due to budgetary limits. It was mostly mocking superheroes in their down time sitting in a dinner. It's a real shame we don't have more Tick to watch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 06, 2017, 08:03:37 PM
Wait, there is a new show... Do you refuse to acknowledge the new show? Is this a Matrix Sequels thing?

(https://i.imgur.com/V25KrEI.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 06, 2017, 08:18:04 PM
Patrick Warburton will always be The Tick.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 06, 2017, 11:02:01 PM
I was skeptical of the new Tick until I learned Warburton was a producer on it. That means he gives it his blessing, and it really seems to be a great modernization of the classic Tick ideas. I loved the old live and animated shows.


Been waiting to clear some other shows of of my docket before diving into this series, so I'll probably dig in in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 06, 2017, 11:33:03 PM
It's a fast watch, only six episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 07, 2017, 01:10:59 AM
I watched it all in one sitting.... and when it was over, I was ready for more episodes.

I like all 3 version of The Tick, from the old cartoon, to the old TV show, to the new Amazon exclusive.
I'm sure the cartoon does not hold up well today, but it lives on in infamy in my childhood memories, where I shall let it stay.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 07, 2017, 11:38:25 PM
I watched it all in one sitting.... and when it was over, I was ready for more episodes.

I like all 3 version of The Tick, from the old cartoon, to the old TV show, to the new Amazon exclusive.
I'm sure the cartoon does not hold up well today, but it lives on in infamy in my childhood memories, where I shall let it stay.

Good Idea. I bought Season One of Darkwing Duck. Does not hold up as well. At least early episodes.

That show is particularly dear to me because it was the first show whose premier I anticipated because of advertising.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 07, 2017, 11:43:20 PM
That's a pity for Darkwing. I've not seen any episodes in a long time, so I wonder if I'm more in love with the concept of DW than the show itself. It was very smart in how it teased super hero tropes before that was really its own thing (similar to Tick I suppose).


But I'm sure a number of our nostalgic shows don't hold up because all of them had filler episodes and "trope" episodes where a character learns a cheesy life lesson in a lame and heavy-handed manner.


Even Ducktales had some stinker episodes, and we really stick that up on a pedestal among classic shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on September 07, 2017, 11:52:55 PM
Well you know it takes a season to get great usually. Specialky cartoons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 10, 2017, 07:33:52 PM
Just got into the Ozarks on Netflix.

Jason Bateman is a money launder for a Mexican cartel and has to bust his ass to save his and his family's life. So far pretty good, but I think I might have come in with higher expectations than I should have, since I was told it was the "new breaking bad". Not that the quality isn't there, but I'm guessing it's more a subject matter thing, drugs, money, etc etc.

I only finished the 1st 7 of 10 episodes, but so far I'm into it. Will update upon completion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 16, 2017, 10:51:35 AM
Finally started watching the Tick. While I am not fond of the new character "Realistic" design or lack of absurd bulk and the weak of bass compared to Patrick's or the cartoon voices I generally like this.

It had me when I heard the line "They were blinded by weaponized syphilis and shot to death".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 16, 2017, 01:02:07 PM
I finished the Ozarks, it was good. NOt on the level some hyped it, but still good. Can't fault it for not being able to edge out one of my Top 5 TV shows... and only in it's first season. It has potential, but I just say I look forward to a season 2. It'll be interesting to see how things play out.

But I came in here to show some love to One-Punch Man
LOL this anime is pretty fucking funny. I'm only in ep5, but I'm already hooked. I just wish Netflix had an English dub so I could spend more time watching the animation and less time reading the dialogue. Its kinda like if Goku was always in "Ultra" Saiyan mode, but didn't know it, didn't care, and was only worried about if people knew who he was and that they weren't actively trying to ruin his day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 17, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
The english dub aired on Toonami, and I really enjoyed it despite not watching it consistently.  I recently got into the manga and love it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 22, 2017, 01:23:49 AM
The Orville is pretty fantastic. Not what I expected. I expected goofy Star Trek parody, I get Star Trek with an edge.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 22, 2017, 01:56:19 AM
The Orville is pretty fantastic. Not what I expected. I expected goofy Star Trek parody, I get Star Trek with an edge.

I heard it was a Dramedy... minus the comedy, and actually all drama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 22, 2017, 03:31:17 AM
Episode 3 is on par with any Deep Space Nine episode. I would describe the show as just like Deep Space Nine with an occasional explicit sex reference and maybe some weed. They go just a bit further adult wise than Star Trek would go.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 22, 2017, 04:56:35 AM
I think it's still finding its footing around the tone it's trying to work out, but there is definite hints towards DS9 in there somewhere. It's light, airy, the music is very uplifting, and its general feeling of positivity is great compared to "dark" lately.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 24, 2017, 12:01:59 AM
Catching up on Walking Dead with the Mrs, and I got to say, its not quite as bad as some people were saying. Though we are only on episode 8/9 (S7) so maybe it will get worse as we progress.


It may also be a benefit of binge-ing as the stories aren't as isolated when you watch 2-3 at the same time. Only real stinker so far seems to be the Seaside episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 24, 2017, 09:18:26 AM
Seaside is probably the worst episode of the entire series. Everything is better after that episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2017, 02:59:10 PM
I finally watched the pilot for Star Trek: Discovery, and I liked it enough to reluctantly subscribe to CBS's stupid streaming platform to get the rest of it, even though I'll hate myself for it. I like the aesthetic a lot, especially the sound, which they got perfect, and the few characters that got any real screen time seemed good. The Klingon storyline they're setting up seems like it could be pretty good, and I trust Nicholas Meyer to get things right.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on September 27, 2017, 03:05:03 PM
Actually, about that show:

Who the hell decided it was a good idea to send the Captain and the XO on an inevitably heavy combat mission. ALONE?? What the hell???

Surely someone there would have been intelligent enough to have left the Captain and XO in comparative safety on the ship they're, ya know, supposed to be running and send a group of trained and appropriately armed and amoured soldiers instead? They would have done what, a couple of weeks of basic hand to hand and weapons training before being shoved back off to the classroom?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 27, 2017, 08:11:20 PM
Discovery: Just as I thought that was stunt casting. No doubt that was a shitty excuse to kill the captain and so Michaels can start(continue) the war with her own hands.Then there are all the people crying about fighting was not what they signed up for in Star Fleet and not remembering Enterprise's experience that Space is fucking dangerous.

I do not like the ascetics much at all. It's way too dark and back are those fucking lens flares but now in dark rooms. The Klingon ships are a hot mess not much different from a Michael Bay Transformer transition. There is no reason to be this dark all the time. I can't believe they made the Klingons even more impractical.

The technology is all over the place with the computer way more responsive than it should have been. Oddly specific force fields. That stupid Klingon beacon. Writing out the "Star".Vulcans can now mind meld and communicate over light-years because Sharek is just that powerful and important and Katras can do whatever.

The battle was pretty bad as again they went back to the JJ style rubbish flash. All visuals without any thought what is going where.

I really don't like Michaels. She reckless in her arrogance and not sociable or inherently likeable. I wouldn't care if she did stay in that jail cell for life. I know about her Vulcan background, not that you could miss it but this was ridiculous.

They pretty much killed or put everyone on the bus so I am not sure how she is going to carry the show. Everyone else had no subtleties to them as they are just as exaggerated as Michaels is.

I will stick around for a little more but I don't like what I am seeing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 27, 2017, 08:38:37 PM
Enterprise's experience was 100 years before this show, it makes sense that people wouldn't be looking at it from that perspective. TNG showed what happens when Starfleet goes a century without facing a real threat, and the complacency and hubris that led them to make a cruise liner full of civilians the Federation flagship out in unknown territory is what prompted Q to introduce them to the Borg to jolt them out of it

The issue of the technology is pretty much impossible to get around. They chose to go with something that makes sense as 100 years after Enterprise and basically ignore the original series' sophistication and aesthetic, because you can't really reconcile the two.

As for the characters, I'm willing to chalk a lot of that up to trying to fit too much into a 1 hour pilot and give them the benefit of the doubt that they'll develop into more well rounded characters over time. I don't know if I'd be as willing to give them that if Nicholas Meyer weren't involved, but that man knows how to do Star Trek right.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 28, 2017, 04:21:48 AM
Enterprise's experience was 100 years before this show, it makes sense that people wouldn't be looking at it from that perspective. TNG showed what happens when Starfleet goes a century without facing a real threat, and the complacency and hubris that led them to make a cruise liner full of civilians the Federation flagship out in unknown territory is what prompted Q to introduce them to the Borg to jolt them out of it

I would argue that it was the Dominion resulting in the creation/completion of the Defiant.

I really liked the actors, but i'm not fond of the stunt casting. There was very high praise at the thought of an asian woman and a black woman leading a starship and they should have continued with that trend.

The issue i have with Discovery is that ENT, TOS and DSC all have three different aesthetics with the latter going wildly off into a different direction that doesn't actually align with TNG or what follows. I realise production techniques with set design improve from TOS to now, but ENT to TOS works but DSC jolts in a different direction that breaks the continuity.

DS9 skipped this issue by, 1 not being on a Starfleet station, and 2 and when they did we got a warship.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 28, 2017, 05:43:38 AM
This doesn't feel like Nicholas Meyer at all. Its Meyer pretending to be JJ and he is so much worse for it. Khan, Voyage and Undiscovered are all his but Discovery is nothing like them. They were deliberate, well paced and didn't need to throw more plot points than it needed to. It was tight.

There was an old school epic-ness to them. When the Battle cruiser de-cloaks in Undiscovered it is graceful, menacing, the crew sells their dread in a few lines and excellent acting that 2 hours of mystery boxes, giant ship, contrived plot devices, flashing lights and shouting couldn't do. Make fun all you want , Shatner certainly does but he is a good actor.

The opening scene beggers belief as it is almost the same as the opening to Into Darkness and equally dumb.

Another thing I still can't believe they still have the NX class operational 100 years later. There weren't many of them and they were straight up retired or a museum ship at the end of Enterprise.

^^^

It was definitely the Dominion War. Running into the Borg did make Picard question continuing bring families on board it wasn't until the Defiant that the change was complete as that was their first dedicated warship.

The Sovereign Class Enterprise is still an exploration vessel of sorts but it is very, very heavily armed compared to it's contemporaries surging off hits from the Borg and fighting a ship more than twice the size with cloaking to a stand still.

Enterprise actually nailed the look of the ship in retrospect. They were still stuck with current engineering toggles and buttons but that made sense for the time. STD isn't long before TOS, if they wanted something that wasn't toggles they could have copied the bridges from the TOS high budget movies. It's would be absurd to see straight up TOS consoles as that was a budgetary concern than ascetics but the movies showed that you can improve the look without breaking the feel.

It was very obvious from the trailer that there had been a stunt casting as they almost exclusively focused on Michaels the entire time. With West World you couldn't tell until the episode that it happened in and even then you were hoping they won't die.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 28, 2017, 10:06:31 PM
The Opposition with Jordan Klepper
It's basically the Colbert Report...which is awesome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 29, 2017, 05:48:47 AM
Another thing I still can't believe they still have the NX class operational 100 years later. There weren't many of them and they were straight up retired or a museum ship at the end of Enterprise.

Were was this said/shown? Given that ENT only ever showed 2 NX ships in the series (with plans for a few more) i find it a stretch that the design would last 100 years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 29, 2017, 12:05:30 PM
They still had a bunch of Excelsior and Miranda class ships in TNG and DS9 almost 100 years after they went into service. That was mainly because the shows didn't have the budget to create new models, but it would suggest it's possible for ships, or at least classes, to remain in service that long.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 29, 2017, 01:05:16 PM
Another thing I still can't believe they still have the NX class operational 100 years later. There weren't many of them and they were straight up retired or a museum ship at the end of Enterprise.

Were was this said/shown? Given that ENT only ever showed 2 NX ships in the series (with plans for a few more) i find it a stretch that the design would last 100 years.
You see one get blown up in the battle. Its over in a second but it's there. The NX ships were demonstrators for human starships and high warp factors. Since it was the only thing they had why not send them on missions even if just to flip off the Vulcans a little. One of the first thing I remember them doing was dropping communication relays so they weren't sending Archer off into deep space to go where no man has gone before since truckers had beaten them to it at the time.

They still had a bunch of Excelsior and Miranda class ships in TNG and DS9 almost 100 years after they went into service. That was mainly because the shows didn't have the budget to create new models, but it would suggest it's possible for ships, or at least classes, to remain in service that long.
I can see Excelsior and Miranda class still be around as space trucks and other second line service but to send them into battle is another story. It would be like sending in the USS Constitution or the HMS Victory to duke it out with a battleship.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 29, 2017, 01:37:38 PM
Lots of those Excelsiors and Mirandas fought in the Dominion War. Sisko commanded a Miranda class ship against the Borg at Wolf 359. When that's all you have available and in range, that's what you use. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 29, 2017, 01:39:37 PM
Lots of those Excelsiors and Mirandas fought in the Dominion War. Sisko commanded a Miranda class ship against the Borg at Wolf 359. When that's all you have available and in range, that's what you use.
Most of them blew up so not exactly a ringing endorsement.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 29, 2017, 01:42:25 PM
And the NX got blown up in this. But desperate times call for desperate measures.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2017, 03:06:29 AM
It's early so I'm not going to pass any major judgement on Star Trek: Discovery just yet. It's definitely a mixed bag. It's kind of funny but ST:Enterprise is kind of becoming one of the more important Trek series despite getting cancelled too early. By being set at the beginning of Starfleet's journey into the stars, it survives the timeline change of the new Star Trek movies and can still act as a link to the other Star Trek series that came before it even if it isn't really referenced by those series. Discovery itself seems to be taking cues from Enterprise a bit as well in the outer design of the ships and in the uniforms and I kind of like that. The original series does suffer from its uniforms and tech designs not really gelling well with the current timeline and series we have. The new movies do a bit better job in bridging that gap though. Besides Enterprise, Discovery also seems to be taking a lot of cues from the newer Star Trek movies as well. Considering how well they've done with casual fans, I suppose it makes sense in the hopes of attracting a wider audience since shrinking viewership is what led to the decline of the series. That said, I wish constant lens flares was not one of the elements they decided to bring over.

I was studying the uniforms for a bit in one portion and I really like them. That gold on blue and the gold Starfleet Logo is pretty snazzy. I wasn't a big fan of the purple turtleneck design introduced in DS9 and worn through all of Voyager and dislike the grey for everyone uniform in the latter half of DS9 with different colored turtlenecks for rank. The Enterprise uniforms were ok and helped make that link of early astronauts and The Right Stuff kind of vibe the show was going for but they weren't exactly appealing like something you'd want to dress up. But these uniforms? Yeah, I'd be excited to try one on. It's the most appealing uniform since the Season 3 uniform change of TNG. Always thought those were the best even if the actors didn't always care for them. But enough on that. It's kind of a minor point even if it seems to be one of the high points in the series favor so far.

Without a doubt, this series has some impressive graphical capability allowing for some interesting possibilities like the space suit flight or weirder alien species besides just different kinds of humanoids like the desert planet kind of hinted at. At the same time, that kind of stuff makes it harder for the series to fight in the timeline it should be since some of that stuff seems more advanced than what happens in the future. It would seem the smart thing to do would be to keep every new Trek series moving further into the future to allow the special effect or design dating to keep from making the timeline of tech portrayed from being all wonky. DS9 introduced holographic display and communication on ships. It was kind of a new technology and limited. It also appeared in like 2 episodes because the regular viewscreen was a pretty sufficient means of communication and only seemed to be created as a dramatic device to allow Sisko to be face to face with a particular nemesis as they attempted to best each other. In this show set in the past, holographic technology is so good that the person being emitted on the hologram can know what the space they are being projected in looks like to allow them to take advantage of it and sit on the corner of a desk as they talk. So much better than a viewscreen where you could be talking to someone while already sitting at the same time.

Considering the cues they are taking from the movies, I suppose it's best to just go with the idea of an alternate timeline and that TNG, DS9 and Voyager never happened or played out differently than as we know it. I use to get hung up on Smallville and all the stuff it was changing or getting wrong about Superman's history and mythos until one day I just thought of it as an Elseworlds kind of tale and that it was just someone else's spin and interpretation of Superman's history and not an actual canonical tale as it may have been presented or talked about when it first came out. Same thing with the Legend of Zelda series, I suppose. One can get hung up on timelines or one could just think of it as some games being canonical and some just being reboots or different interpretations of a myth by different cultures and just enjoy the story being presented at the time and not bother trying to connect it with other stories that have come before. That's what I'm telling myself to do here based on these first couple episodes but it ain't easy.

It's also hard to judge the show since we've yet to see what its regular crew is even going to look like yet. Same goes for the villains. The purpose / main drive of the show seems to be about a war with the Klingons although that's not exactly a new thing. The great leader of the Klingons and one of the few characters (maybe the only one) mildly interesting with his talk of "We come in peace" being an insidious threat is now dead. One supposes the house of none Klingon takes his place yet I find it hard that he could overcome Klingon prejudices to suddenly do this with the true leader dead. Who is going to be the Klingon figurehead now? There are other questions on the Klingon's motivations that need to be answered now as well.

It's a very odd series at the moment. Stuff is happening yet it is hard to know what is relevant when characters are quickly dying or hardly introduced. The only name that is sticking with me so far is Micheal because it just doesn't seem to fit or work as a girl's name. I suppose I should know it since she is supposed to be the main character pretty much but it's indicative of how the show seems to be focused on flash and action first and character second. That's rarely a winning combo. Still, I'm willing to stick around for awhile to see where it goes because the Star Trek universe still has a lot of elements that can be appealing even when the writing is subpar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 02, 2017, 03:54:36 AM
Many paragraphs but I can boil most of it down to "Nice special effects".

In Trek GFX has always been a bonus not the goal. Until JTrek it has always been Utopian ideals meets the road of reality. DS9 pushed this by making reality more grounded and real.

STD isn't long for this world, the Trek fans have already rejected it, the causals have burned out after Into Darkness as Beyond barely broke even. It doesn't matter if it has the Star Trek name or not if it is fundamentally terrible.

JJ pretty much trashed both Star Wars and Trek with the same awful tool box he brings to everything he makes. I respect and like Michael Bay more because he has made better movies than JJ ever has. JJ is the epitome of flash.

I highly, highly recommend you watch The Orville. It is excellent Trek and it hits the ground running unlike STD. It is lovingly well created and beats the true heart of Star Trek.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2017, 04:07:06 AM
However, let me tell you about a show I'm really passionate about it right now:

Good Eats.

This show had 14 seasons airing from 1999 to about 2012 and yet I'm only just discovering it now. It's hosted by Alton Brown who I've liked from my exposure to him on Iron Chef America and Cutthroat Kitchen plus some other Food Network bits he has done. He kind of made Iron Chef America for me because of his commentary and smarts. Well, Good Eats is how he got his start into the TV Business and Food Network and amazingly, I only found out about it a couple months ago.

I had stayed over one night at my parents place and was taking a flight home the next day in the evening so I had some time to chill. Flipping through the TV Channels, I came across the Cooking Channel which I didn't know excited since the last time I had cable (which is over a year ago) I never saw that channel listed as an option. It's like another Food Network but seems to be a bit more focused on actual cooking type shows than food competitions. Maybe some of you know all this already. It was news to me, though! The title intrigued me and seeing that it involved Alton Brown sold me on checking it out.

In case you haven't heard of the show, either, it is a program that will look at a type of dish or recipe and then get into the history or some facts about the dish, it will show you how to cook the dish but it will also get into the science behind it which explains what kind of chemical reactions are perhaps occurring or why certain ingredients work some ingredients but not others and various things like that. I was watching it with my brother and he commented that it was sort of like the Bill Nye the Science Guy for cooking shows. On Wikipedia, it references Alton Brown as saying he wanted the show to be a combination of Julia Child, Mr. Wizard and Monty Python rolled into one and I'd say it's a pretty good description of the show. It may not be as clever in humor as Monty Python but the humor is another factor that helps it stand out a bit from other cooking shows.

I only saw a couple episodes that one day but last week I went away for a bit of a family reunion and staying with my parents again gave me the chance to see some more episodes. In fact, it was something I was secretly hoping I'd be able to watch more of since those couple episodes I saw stuck with me. I was probably able to watch another 12 or 14 on this last visit. It's inspired me to start watching this entire series.

As such, I've now started watching the first season of the program and wow what a difference that is. The stuff I've seen seems to have come from the last 3 seasons. By that point, the show was a well oiled machine. The first season is a bit different from what I've now become use to. It's still got that blend of cooking, science and humour that drew me in but it can look sort of amateurish at times. I'd almost liken it to having a similar vibe to a YouTube channel cooking show. Alton isn't the polished professional that I'm used to from all the previous media I've seen him do. It's kind of interesting to see him here as he's starting out. The second episode I noticed this habit he had of starting of every second sentence or so with the word now. It kind of became cringe-worthy yet slightly comical. Perhaps he picked up on that too since I haven't noticed him doing that a few episodes after. The other difference is that the later season shows I watched had him tackling topics like doing tempura fry, baklava, or paella. Big dishes or more complex kinds of food preparation. Yet, these first few episodes are like beginner's cooking. How to boil or fry an egg. How to cook a baked potato or make a vinegarete dressing for a salad. It kind of adds to the amateur vibe going on. That said, it's still interesting to learn about the science behind some of these basics cooking lessons and they're still pretty essential things to learn plus he does do some things quite differently than I've seen done. Now that I know his reasoning behind his methods, I'm a lot more willing to change up how I cook some things or try his way. I've never seen a Caesar Salad recipe constructed in the method he presented so now I'm curious to try it out and see what it is like.

He says early on in one of the first episodes something along the lines that Good Eats isn't about presenting an exact recipe of how to make or replicate the dishes being made but that it is about getting people to experiment with cooking things on their own and know how to make things without having to consult a recipe list every time. Part of that is because things are going to cook differently. The age of food, the appliances or tools being used, even one's elevation depending on where they live can all be factors in cooking times or how food may turn out. Understanding the process is important to ensuring better success when doing the cooking yourself and that's a skill I've been very interested in.

When I watch a show like Chopped and contestants are giving mystery ingredients they have to work with, I've always been impressed at how the cooks are able to come up with dishes and ways to incorporate that food on the spot without consulting some kind of cookbook or recipe. Another show I've recently gotten into is Masterchef which I watched last year and this year. Again, the home chefs on that show are able to replicate or come up with meals on the spot all the time and I just marvel at how they can do that. Well, Good Eats is like the culinary school I need to get that skill. I'm probably going to start rewatching some episodes and take some notes to try all this stuff (even going over the basics.) I may even begin revamping my kitchen and buying some new equipment to aid me in this endeavor.

Having done some reading up on the history of this show, I've learned that Alton Brown is in the process of actually bringing it back. The successor show is going to be called Return of the Eats and will be jointly aired on Food Network and the internet with additional content being made online. It's to air sometime next year. I guess the show has maintained a pretty popular following during it's air time with fans hoping it would return. Having just begun diving into it, I can see why. I just wish I had known about it sooner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2017, 05:02:49 AM
Many paragraphs but I can boil most of it down to "Nice special effects".

In Trek GFX has always been a bonus not the goal. Until JTrek it has always been Utopian ideals meets the road of reality. DS9 pushed this by making reality more grounded and real.

STD isn't long for this world, the Trek fans have already rejected it, the causals have burned out after Into Darkness as Beyond barely broke even. It doesn't matter if it has the Star Trek name or not if it is fundamentally terrible.

JJ pretty much trashed both Star Wars and Trek with the same awful tool box he brings to everything he makes. I respect and like Michael Bay more because he has made better movies than JJ ever has. JJ is the epitome of flash.

I highly, highly recommend you watch The Orville. It is excellent Trek and it hits the ground running unlike STD. It is lovingly well created and beats the true heart of Star Trek.

I have been meaning to check out The Orville and I'll probably give it a whirl and get caught up on it soon enough. However, back before either The Orville or Discovery aired, I was thinking of making a prediction in the New Shows to Look Out For thread that we could see the repeat of another curious TV incident from a few years ago play out again here.

In 2006, there were 2 shows that aired in the fall / new TV season. These 2 shows were both about the behind the scenes nature of a sketch comedy show a la SNL. One was a drama and one was a comedy. The drama was called Studio 60 on the Sunset Strip. It was created and being written by Aaron Sorkin now that the highly successful The West Wing he was responsible for had just ended in the spring. Talking about this show, Nathan Rabin on the AV Club wrote: "The arrogance extended to filling the cast with a murderer’s row of familiar faces. Studio 60’s main and guest cast doubles as a living television history." The comedy, however, was called 30 Rock. It was created by Tina Fey who was also the head writer and star. Although she'd done some good work on SNL, this was her first show that she had created and she herself admitted "it's just bad luck for me that in my first attempt at prime time I'm going up against the most powerful writer on television." The cast of the show was also a bit more obscure perhaps than that of Studio 60 aside from Alec Baldwin.

The thinking and expectation from most people and critics at the time was that Studio 60 would probably be the bigger hit and that it would outlast 30 Rock. And in that first year, 30 Rock's ratings were lackluster and they were less than Studio 60's ratings. Yet, it was Studio 60 that was cancelled at the end of the year because it was more expensive to produce while 30 Rock would go on to be renewed for a second season. Even more incredible, its fortunes would change dramatically as it would go on to win the Emmy for Best Comedy 3 years in a row. Studio 60, on the other hand, grew to have huge disdain thrown at it and create a negative reaction for most people who had watched it. Nathan Rabin, who I quoted earlier, did an article about it under his series My Year of Flops about the obsessive hate the series seemed to generate from those that watched it and discussed why it is considered such a flop today.

And now here we are with two sci-fi shows with quite a few similarities to each other. One is a drama with a big budget and big expectations and one is comedy with a smaller budget and middling expectations. It wouldn't surprise me if once again the comedy show ends up being the bigger hit and success than the drama.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2017, 05:05:33 AM
One of the things that struck me when watching Discovery (since I'm going through all manner of topics on this show) is the amount of executive producers listed in the credits. There may be more there than actual actors listed. I'll have to watch the next episode and do a count. To me, that's another sign of trouble. Having all these voices and people involved can make things very muddled.

It doesn't help that CBS is trying to use this show to launch its streaming service. If it doesn't like the numbers or revenue from the people subscribing to it, what do you think will happen to the show? Not only that, it's an unproven show. Yes, it is Star Trek so it is not a completely new concept but each series has differed in popularity so just it being Star Trek isn't enough to guarantee the quality. Now imagine if The Next Generation had been on the air and suddenly it was announced that Season 4 or Season 5 was going to be moved to a special pay channel. How many people do you think would plunk out the cash then? It would probably have worked very well since the show had worked out its kinks and become very popular and much better written. It would probably have gotten some scorn by a lot of fans towards the network for creating that paywall but despite that negativity, the show would probably still have been able to overcome it.

Discovery already had that negativity of putting it behind a paywall (streaming service) before it even aired or could establish goodwill with the fanbase. Therefore, it almost had to be doubly good in order to overcome the initial negativity the network basically created for it and, so far, with the two episodes presented, it has been unable to meet that challenge and has instead caused even more negativity going by oohhboy's comments.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on October 02, 2017, 05:27:08 AM
Good Eats is seriously a great show.  I love the mixture of learning science, history and culture wrapped around a cooking show.  It has heart is funny and literally yhe best show Food Network has ever made.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 02, 2017, 01:42:32 PM
One of the things that struck me when watching Discovery (since I'm going through all manner of topics on this show) is the amount of executive producers listed in the credits. There may be more there than actual actors listed.

I did a count on IMDB. There are 40 actors listed and 30 producers. 21 producers are in the opening credits to 7 actors. There would be more producers in the opening if they weren't in other positions. They started listing them 2 at a time so they wouldn't run out of opening.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on October 02, 2017, 02:02:02 PM
Good Eats is seriously a great show.  I love the mixture of learning science, history and culture wrapped around a cooking show.  It has heart is funny and literally yhe best show Food Network has ever made.

I'd have to agree with you. It was clear to me from the first couple episodes I watched that it was a special show and now any other cooking show I watch is going to suffer in comparison.

One of the things that struck me when watching Discovery (since I'm going through all manner of topics on this show) is the amount of executive producers listed in the credits. There may be more there than actual actors listed.

I did a count on IMDB. There are 40 actors listed and 30 producers. 21 producers are in the opening credits to 7 actors. There would be more producers in the opening if they weren't in other positions. They started listing them 2 at a time so they wouldn't run out of opening.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha! Oh wow! Thanks for doing the research. That's ridiculous! Now I'm wondering if there was any other show or movie with that amount of producers and how successful it was. That doesn't inspire confidence when you see that. When I saw the opening credits the first time, I was focusing on the images and the music but I thought I noticed a few producer credits. With the second episode, I definitely noticed a lot of producer credits but didn't think to count them. Now I know.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 02, 2017, 02:45:49 PM
I didn't notice until you asked. The I don't doubt there is a correlation between the number of producers and the quality of the show.

Just from the sheer number of people you are going to get an overwhelming amount of "Ideas" that frequently conflict with each other put forth by people who don't know what they are doing with some being at each other's throats, all this backed up with by being the people with the money.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 02, 2017, 03:31:52 PM
I was curious, so I went and looked, and the credits for the Simpsons episode You Only Move Twice list 19 producers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 03, 2017, 03:35:29 AM
My non-trekkie friend watched the first episode of Discovery, and one of the things he kept saying was "this looks like a movie" and "this is very glossy". Given the budget is said to be around $8m/episode that doesn't surprise me very much, but going back into the early point of the timeline doesn't allow for the corridors to be much wider than on TOS (and what follows), darker lit, feature holo-projection screens (which DS9 showed once in a future timeline) and feature a plot about these spores being used as a near-instant transportation method, which if it was successful would render the entire plot of Voyager inert

The Orville is an interesting show in that its a big budget scifi that aims lower; it's very much trying to capture the joy and spirit of TNG but with the obvious weak link of Seth MacFarlane in the front and his particular brand of humour. I really like the idea of a single-sex species and what that could mean, and i'm glad they are developing that (although several other characters have barely been developed beyond "dude-bro"). There's some potential here, but it has to nudge itself in a different direction humour wise.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 03, 2017, 05:09:23 AM
STD Episode 3: Is this for real?
 
 They made an excuse as to why the ship is all dark and **** because the captain got an eye injury so he needs a low light environment to recover, instead of you know wearing badass sunglasses so you don't impose your problem on everyone else and to help hide your motives. He even says the low light makes him mysterious. It's low light even when the captain isn't in the room if not darker in some places.
 
 As for one of the current mystery boxes would have been literally better off making a genocidal genetic virus like in DS9 instead a canon breaking device that even breaks JTrek that makes huge swaths of technology obsolete.
 
 It has Zapp Brannigan level of security where you use your breath to get into top secret areas.
 
 People keep feeding Michaels top secret information because she kept bugging and bullying everyone about what they are doing instead of respecting security like she has been trained to do even though she still believes in being a first officer. She starts sprouting conventions and rules despite her constant disregard for said rules.
 
 You would think being the most infamous and hated person in the federation people wouldn't to talk to her other than tell her to shut the **** up if not try to murder her especially when this is all suppose to be edgy, literally dark and grim.
 
 She refuses to work again breaking the chain of command while saying that she has a debt for her crimes when she is clearly being offered a chance at redemption even though she is one of the primary causes of said problem.
 
 She keeps deducing a bunch of things like the BS excuse to get her on the ship but misses multiple offers for atonement even though she reads a actual book full of abstract ideas and use of language. And good god her arrogance and entitlement didn't take long to resurface.
 
 I am not sure what she has is so brilliant that she has to be on the ship at all considering the other ship had achieved that very goal already before she was even on the ship. The captain even demonstrates it to Michaels after saying it doesn't work, assuming its not something else that breaks canon.
 
 You create an uncontrollable resident evil style bio-weapon because you couldn't have thought of a better way to kill people? Mystery box!
 
 We don't even see what a Federation prison is like which given the other prisoner's response is a lot more violent than the holiday inn Tom Paris was at in New Zealand.
 
 It is impressive how much they go out of their way to **** up even the basics that require no knowledge of Trek to spot never mind the original themes Trek is built on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 04, 2017, 12:56:38 AM
Brightly lit looks better to me, for Star Trek that is.

unless your going for a lived in Aliens/Star Wars/Blade Runner vibe.

I need to catch up on season 3 of Dark Matter which I've found to be an excellent show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 04, 2017, 05:29:42 AM
Alien(s) and Blade Runners lighting worked because they knew what they were doing. It was dark, but what was important was still lit and could be seen working the scene as a whole.

JTrek and JWars do not. It's not even a misunderstanding, it's wilful ignorance. Your sets could be million dollar wonders shot with 4K RED but if you can't see them you might as well have spent nothing.

It's no a completely new trend as shows like CSI had work spaces lit so poorly you wonder how any crime busting happens or how many innocent people got sent to prison because they couldn't see their work.

I really appreciate shows that use lighting appropriately for the environment it is in even if the show itself is garbage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 04, 2017, 08:49:27 AM
I need to catch up on season 3 of Dark Matter which I've found to be an excellent show.

Unfortunately Syfy cancelled it with absolutely no reason, it seems because Syfy didn't make the show themselves and it "worked against them".

But never fear, the best DC TV show has finally returned to TV - yes Lucifer has finally come back! It's still not trying to save the world, but its ridiculously jacked up premise works very well now it's found it's groove. It's done what Agents of Shield also managed, and went from a "meh" in early S1 to "this is actually really good" just a season or two later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 12, 2017, 10:58:57 AM
Super Girl Season 3 Episode 1

Geez SG is cold as hell. The change in her character is like a car crash which is understandable since she went through an emotional car crash. It should be a pretty interesting character arc for the season not that others are getting left out in the cold as they have their own issues, some related to Kara, some not.

It still doesn't make the techno-babble end last season any better or less dumb but it has made for an interesting change. I am not a fan for even more supers appearing right now.

But damn they introduced someone you instantly hated, for good reason leading to SG doing something that again reinforced her fucked up coldness.

Again Melissa's acting is keeping the show on her shoulders admirably but not quite as single handedly like before.

Did they get a budget boost or did they front load the season?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 12, 2017, 10:10:50 PM
Started watching The Orville on Ceric's recommendation.

Ugh...Seth McFarlane. Just when I'm starting to get into this show, a character makes a (to them) 400 year old 20th Century pop culture reference or talks about someone's ****. Then the show's totally lost me again.

The acting's mediocre, the bridge is hilariously awful in the pilot (it's lit & shot better from Ep. 2 onward), and the writing's just...bad. If someone more capable was helming this show, it could be saved. The show is on par with TNG Season 1, but there are some decent ideas here & we haven't had this style of Star Trek in a while. But what's here right now is just incredibly mediocre.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 12, 2017, 10:24:15 PM
I need to catch up on season 3 of Dark Matter which I've found to be an excellent show.

Unfortunately Syfy cancelled it with absolutely no reason, it seems because Syfy didn't make the show themselves and it "worked against them".

But never fear, the best DC TV show has finally returned to TV - yes Lucifer has finally come back! It's still not trying to save the world, but its ridiculously jacked up premise works very well now it's found it's groove. It's done what Agents of Shield also managed, and went from a "meh" in early S1 to "this is actually really good" just a season or two later.

Dark Matter season 1 and 2 were pretty good. I'm halfay through 3, and I have to say there is some filler. Some episodes seem like retreads on old plotlines. Some are great though.

Maybe Netflix'll buy the show off Syfy and Space Channel. They got Lost in Space coming out sometime, but original content is the name of the game nowadays.

I still haven't seen Discovery, but I welcome the return of the Space Scifi Drama show. It's been absent for too long. I'm tempted to create my own series, but I got to convince some abandoned k-mart owners to use their building. I remember years ago thinking up some good plot-lines for a show to write. I was intrigued by the idea of 'Boldly Going Nowhere' but it never came to fruition.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 12, 2017, 10:27:42 PM
If you want a great current sci-fi drama I can't recommend The Expanse highly enough. I'm enjoying Discovery, but The Expanse might be my favorite thing on television right now
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 12, 2017, 10:32:16 PM
If you want a great current sci-fi drama I can't recommend The Expanse highly enough. I'm enjoying Discovery, but The Expanse might be my favorite thing on television right now

Yeah, I tried watching the 1st season of the Expanse, and I just kind of lost interest halfway in. I stopped watching the show towards the end of the season when I realized I couldn't remember anything that had happened the previous 3-4 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 13, 2017, 01:07:33 AM
If you want a great current sci-fi drama I can't recommend The Expanse highly enough. I'm enjoying Discovery, but The Expanse might be my favorite thing on television right now

You have bad, bad tastes if you like Discovery. I only watch it to see the train wreak that it is. Every week a new train ploughs into the wreckage that came before it. It's fascinating to see people watch something so badly written and made while saying it's good.

It makes for a great case study as to how not to do a show.

The thing I laughed hardest about the last episode is that they had so much money that they decided to blow it on showing a uniform getting replicated very up close. You couldn't find a worse way to waste money for something so absurdly trivial.

Started watching The Orville on Ceric's recommendation.

Ugh...Seth McFarlane. Just when I'm starting to get into this show, a character makes a (to them) 400 year old 20th Century pop culture reference or talks about someone's ****. Then the show's totally lost me again.

The acting's mediocre, the bridge is hilariously awful in the pilot (it's lit & shot better from Ep. 2 onward), and the writing's just...bad. If someone more capable was helming this show, it could be saved. The show is on par with TNG Season 1, but there are some decent ideas here & we haven't had this style of Star Trek in a while. But what's here right now is just incredibly mediocre.

I rather like Seth McFarlane. His humour isn't for everyone but no one else on TV does what he does. Dick jokes aside he is a pretty good actor although he is far from master-class and with the recent episodes he has managed to show some of that air of command. He isn't instantly a Captain like the others as he is emotionally fucked but it gives his character space to evolve and see how people get there.

You don't get that far in Hollywood without some serious talent given the number of shows he has personally done that has been successful. He is also on pretty good terms with alot of A list actors so we will be seeing more of them as they have alot of fun as a bonus.

As for the references what else are they going to use? It is strangely retro but it serves a very good purpose as scaffolding as they construct more contemporary references and humour. You can't have in-jokes if you have no idea what the original joke is. Plus I find it rather charming in it's cheesiness. I don't see people complain about TNG still playing poker, violins, cowboys, Shakespeare, Doyle, baseball etc.

I am very happy with the Orville. I don't actually want more TNG as that is more than super dry and so done, but I do want more Star Trek and the Orville delivers with it's own flavour something STD straight up isn't because it isn't Trek. It's nothing but branding. It is so sad that official Trek has become so worthless and abused.

The later episodes of Orville are increasingly more TNG like with a touch of that DS9 darkness but the light heartedness is still there and they use it to explore characters. These people are alot more real that the TNG crew with their horse play and interacting with each other to satisfy their curiosity.

The writing is far, far more clever than you give it credit even in the pilot. Unlike JTrek the Orville takes the time to set things up for a pay off, something JJ is incapable of doing with his obsession with the mystery box which he has infected both Trek and Star Wars. Orville has already had an episode where the crew doesn't win with continued consequences down the line. It has also been bitter sweet with characters suffering emotional harm as these people are not invincible.

I love the security officer Alara. So much utility and fun. I really look forward to her doing something every time she goes on an away mission. Unlike Worf who exists to get beaten up to show the power of who ever the bad is, she is the opposite.

Other characters get alot of airtime so it isn't the Captain/Seth show. It is very team oriented. He also steps back from writing and directing post pilot to diversify the stories as well as it's presentation.

Again people just don't give Seth the credit where it's due because he shakes up people's sensitivities which leads to self reflection that alot of people don't like challenges to their world-view and people don't like being wrong especially when they profess how open minded they are.

In the last episode of STD the writers gave you a literal mystery box containing some cheap tricks in a sad attempt to get you to like the characters while making absolutely utter nonsense. It's something I don't expect Orville to do as it is such a cheap and obvious ploy.

As for the sets they are adequate and I rather they spent money on people than some flash on a far more limited budget. I wouldn't be surprised if STD has 3x the budget or more.

If you want a great current sci-fi drama I can't recommend The Expanse highly enough. I'm enjoying Discovery, but The Expanse might be my favorite thing on television right now

Yeah, I tried watching the 1st season of the Expanse, and I just kind of lost interest halfway in. I stopped watching the show towards the end of the season when I realized I couldn't remember anything that had happened the previous 3-4 episodes.

For some reason I didn't get pass the first episode. I don't dislike it or anything but I was very disinterested as to what was happening. Maybe it's because they dump you in the middle of something without any human connection  as it was very much just something happening you have to instantly contextualise not helped it was politics.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 13, 2017, 03:45:31 AM
I was the one who was championing The Expanse initially and i totally get the criticism. Like POI it spends its early episodes worldbuilding, but unlike almost any other show it doesn't even attempt to explain some things like the language the Belters use.

In early S2 it becomes heavily action driven - a point i hope Insanolord is at now - resulting in a fantastic space battle between the Rocinante and a stealth ship hiding behind a space station

The political angle is very un-subtle but given recent events it makes it surprisingly more accurate and "real". The show spends a lot of time between each of the camps and openly goes down a DS9-like route in suggesting "nobody is right, everybody is a different shade of wrong".


Dark Matter season 1 and 2 were pretty good. I'm halfay through 3, and I have to say there is some filler. Some episodes seem like retreads on old plotlines. Some are great though.

Maybe Netflix'll buy the show off Syfy and Space Channel. They got Lost in Space coming out sometime, but original content is the name of the game nowadays.

The producers tried to put it to Netflix, and there was even an idea with MGM about merging it into the Stargate franchise somehow (with the idea of making more stargate later) but it didn't happen because of "contract reasons" - the sets are being torn down and the cast has moved on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 13, 2017, 04:06:02 AM
POI got away with it because every opening had a very quick and dirty run down as to the premise of the show. The first episode doesn't open up in some event, it goes straight for the human connection so you had someone to relate to or attach yourself to.

Everybody understands bullies or some enemy and the power fantasy of turning the tables. It's very basic and a great way to introduce someone. The Orville does this too with the emotional hit of betrayal setting up the character arc, again to form that connection with the viewer.

Ask yourself how immediately relate-able is Picard? Not really as he is pretty much perfect out the gate. He doesn't really change until the TNG movies where he starts becoming imperfect.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 13, 2017, 06:45:35 AM
The Expanse is similar to this. Holden gets thrown into the centre of something he doesn't quite understand and by end of season 2 goes full Ahab, Weller has to try and find his place and purpose in the universe again after being so detached for so long, Amos is a truly fucked up character because he knows his moral compass is busted and has to lean on everyone else to steer him right - the big difference is Expanse never tried to start the show with setting up the characters, it just rolled straight into it and let the dense universe explain itself.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 13, 2017, 08:25:23 AM
I'll give The Orville this: I got to about halfway through the 4th episode last night before I had to go to bed, and the show has shown noticeable improvement. The pilot & episode 2 are pretty bad, but episode 3 was pretty decent (even if it is kind of a knockoff of 2 different early-ish TNG episodes) & episode 4 seems promising enough so far. It's growing on me.

As for the pop culture references, my problem with them is that TNG referenced works that had been around for (at that time) 100 years or more. Sherlock Holmes, Shakespeare, etc. were viewed as core pieces of the human experience & were treated with appropriate dignity.

Orville, on the other hand, treats them like it's an episode of Family Guy: "Oh! Look at Dora the explorer over there!" "I'm with you Obi Wan", etc. They're just references. It's especially annoying because there ARE moments when the pop culture references are used well, like when the captain talks about how Kermit the Frog inspires him as a leader or when the Rankin-Bass Rudolf special is used to convey a larger narrative point.

I want to see more of the latter & less of the former. And seriously, who's going to remember Dora the Explorer in 400 years? Just stop having your characters talk like smarmy assholes!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 13, 2017, 08:41:50 AM
Changing gears a bit, I've also been watching all the episodes of the new DuckTales, and so far it's excellent. The animation is fluid, the stories have been well-written and genuinely funny, & the voice acting (despite the nephews sounding way too old) is spot-on. The writers do an excellent job slowly building up certain longer story arcs in the background.

There are just 2 small gripes I have with this show, though:

1. Scrooge so far is BARELY in this show, as is Donald. They're both guest stars at best & extended cameos at worst, which is nothing new for Donald after the original series but he's actually AT the mansion now so it's annoying. And Scrooge was easily the most interesting & beloved character of the original show. Could they really not get David Tennant in the booth for more than 5 minutes?

2. The globetrotting & treasurer hunting (so fat) is nonexistent. They do it for about 10 minutes in the pilot, & every story since has been in Duckberg. It's disappointing as someone who loves the original show FOR its adventure stories.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 15, 2017, 11:11:18 AM
...and right after I complained about it, the next episode of DuckTales 2017 prominently featured Donald & Scrooge as the family was abroad on an adventure. Much better.  :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 20, 2017, 01:11:19 PM
STD Episode 5: Choose your fucking **** Mudd.

They actually remembered to try to set things up this episode but they do it for things that are literally blindingly obvious like the Captain's sensitivity to light that apparently he could have gotten fixed at any bloody time. They spend 2 minutes doing the CSI thing where they explain to each other what they already know for the nth time after they have been using the drive for who knows how many times.

Saru gets the idiot ball when he orders a jump despite being told if he does they might not have a way to escape. However they do have a way to bypass this but requires someone to mess with their genetics a little. He willingly jumps in without an escape plan only saved by the very thing he ordered them not to do even though what he did order was impossible. So Khan(eugenics wars) is a thing again but so is Elon Musk.

Space is really big but somehow when the captain escapes he manages to stumble upon the discovery. Saru uses a bunch of techno babble "Reasons" his way to a conclusion it is captain instead of just questioning why the other fighters are shooting one of their own.

The Klingon are the universe's worse spies. Instead of listening devices and scanners in the walls they place a bug on a literal bug that Mudd keeps as a pet so they can somehow keep Mudd alive when he should have died ages ago. The captain figures he is being spied on by Mudd by dropping some BS info which gets repeated to him when he gets tortured instead of assuming everything is getting recorded without the bug on the bug.

Mudd isn't some cheerful clueless conman anymore who stumbled on robot wifes to bone and being a general nuisance to Kirk like a proto-Q. Instead he is an idiot who buys a moon on a loan to get the attention of some chick who he couldn't afford in the first place. Because everything must be dark and edgy Mudd has to be angry with the Federation for the war the Federation didn't start and somehow knew a dark secret about the captain even though he is fucking Mudd.

I honestly don't care that they said **** twice and **** once but use it to enhance something instead of dropping them for no reason. If anything it should have been the captain screaming **** you when he gets tortured. Or a holy **** when someone gets their head stomped in.

Philippa is on the list of the greatest captains because of could they have to find a contrived way to reference her and name drop a bunch of captains.

The design of the Klingon ships have nothing in common with each other. It's whatever the intern came up with with the only rule being it has to be huge. It is also another ship the dumbass torch bearer could have called so they didn't need to starve for 6 months which greatly help him to lose everything.

Boytoy(Dude has no name) who is escaping with the captain suddenly gets super weak so the captains says he will come back for him. When he gets back they come under attack again but he isn't tired anymore fighting a Klingon hand to hand to a standstill until he is saved. I can only assumed he faked being tired so he could confront his rapist but could have never possibly known that she would show up where she did.

Ripper dehydrates itself from the stress of being used as the drive. Instead of keeping it as a specimen for furtherer study they release it by dumping out the airlock with some spores where the Ripper somehow rehydrates itself in space even when earlier they show that water getting squeezed out. Eugenics is cool now but torture isn't unless it is convenient. Also how the hell did the Ripper not escape since it can travel the spore network at will.

Nobody making this show has any idea what the hell they are doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 21, 2017, 04:38:18 PM
I'm very much enjoying Inhumans. 

I nearly didn't start it due to the bad initial reactions but Marvel's strike rate is pretty good when it comes to their content so I thought I'd start it and see where it went.  I'm pleased I did too.  I'm having a great time with it.  It's certainly nowhere near top tier Marvel, but it's keeping me happily entertained.  Though I do think having it as a short season is certainly a good thing. 

Oh, and Lockjaw is just adorable. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 21, 2017, 05:19:14 PM
Is it enjoyable in an "it's so bad it's almost good again" type of way?

or is it actually just actually an entertaining and not as bad as it started show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 21, 2017, 05:33:46 PM
Is it enjoyable in an "it's so bad it's almost good again" type of way?

or is it actually just actually an entertaining and not as bad as it started show?

I would say the latter.  As I said, don't go expecting top tier quality television.  But just enjoy a short series for what it is and it's entertaining.  At least it is for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 21, 2017, 05:58:58 PM
As far as the Orville crew members liking 20th/21st century entertainment. It is hard to say what people will still like and remember fondly. There are still references to Nosferatu and Metropolis all over the place. You would have to think of this as a Golden Age of cinematic entertainment from a future perspective. I would imagine in the near future video games and virtual reality are going to get scary real. 20-40 years from now we're going to look at current games like they're 16 bit games.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 22, 2017, 02:32:18 PM
Arrow - Did Oliver just ask Diggle to take over as GA because he has a child even though Diggle has one himself?! That's just rude.

Most the CW DC shows (Black Lightning excluded for now) continue to be middling for one reason or another:

Arrow gets stuck in stupid drama needlessly - if people just opened up and said things the characters would be better people.
Supergirl pinned its entire last season around Kara's relationship.
The Flash did the same with Iris and Barry.

Legends is the only one that decided to skip that and actually started this season with "sometimes we screw up for the better" - they know exactly where they are going and ran with it.

I already dropped Gotham because its simply not changing its weird tonal issues i've had since S1.

So i'm still back to thinking Lucifer is the best DC show on TV with Legends as a close #2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 22, 2017, 09:40:37 PM
Legends is the only other DC show I watch other than Supergirl and it's great in a fucked up way like the team is.

It's delightfully fun and serious at the same time. Even though it is pretty insane their universe does have internal rules and it follows them. The worse episodes were when they tried to do a DC Universe cross-over. Not to say that cross overs are inherently bad as the legion of doom arc was pretty good.

The first season does come off rather artificial in it's handling of relationships and drama. They give everyone a flaw of some sort then they play that one thing almost to the point where that is the only thing that they are as they go back to that well over and over again. The best/worst example of this is Hawk girl who is insanely one note.

The rest of the team do get better as they grow and get over the fake drama. They still bicker and **** around but they are much more natural about it. Rip is easily my favourite character as he owns every scene he shows up in.

"Sometimes we screw up for the better" is an excellent motto for the team and what the show is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 24, 2017, 04:23:41 AM
Mick is still my favourite for how much of a buffoon he is and he still says things in such a blankly straight-faced way. In episode one the rest of the team just said, to find him, to "follow the STD's and reports of petty larceny" and just shrugged their shoulders at it.

Lucifer actually features Maze - a demon in human form - going to Canada, who thinks Canada is a city and not a country because she doesn't understand how the world works - to try something new because she's "bored with her life of excess alcohol, knives and threesomes".

These two shows would be great next to each other actually saying it out loud.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 26, 2017, 07:00:10 AM
STD Episode 6: Spock's not home.
 
 It opens with Titly and the criminal jogging down the hallway wearing "DISCO" T-shirts. They talk about the path the captain's chair for the cadet. The convict tells her personality isn't going to get her into the captain's chair. Yeah sure thing, not like captains being sound of mind is a thing in Trek, it just so happens Admirals are crazier.
 
 They get lunch and the computer spells out what they ordered down to nutritional information twice in this episode in what I assume is an attempt to make a funny character in this sad, grim show. It failed.
 
 The captain and toyboy is back on the Klingon ship blasting away, but the different clothes, lack of injury and glitches in a background immediately give away the fake out. They kill count, we find out toyboy is named Ash which is something we should have known last episode but I guess they wanted another one of those mystery boxes. The captain then offers him the job of chief of security because he kills Klingon good which isn't a bad reason but why didn't the captain replace the last idiot while the corpse was still warm?
 

 Michaels meets Ash the boytoy now CoS. Ash knows who she is helpfully reminding the audience yet again of her crimes (Its in the contract). He says he doesn't care other than about the present and offers to shake her hand. Somehow serving with a Starfleet vessel for a better part of a decade has not taught her this basic social gesture of goodwill to shake hands as she stares bewildered. Titly has to kick her to get her to move.
 
 She is a fucking xeno-anthropologist
, a person who studies other species yet she didn't spend maybe a day or two to antiquate herself with fellow humans while having a human foster mother. Not only is she stupid, she is a wilfully ignorant science officer. Fucking Spock understands more about emotion and human interactions than her while cracking jokes and burns McCoy.
 
 Sarek gets blown up by a super racist logic terrorist who does that inject self so you explode thing. Sarek force fields up at the last moment but is injured deeply so the Katra thing happens which makes Michaels appear in a memory of Sarek who then Matrix her.
 
 They got to save Sarek to they make a psychic power booster out of nowhere like it is nothing while mushroom man looks like he has been eating his own products. They spore drive because they have to go fast. They arrive but can't take the ship in because they would explode somehow. But somehow they are not the closet ship that can respond as Admiral Cornwell is already there waiting. She berates her for using a top secret ship to rescue Sarek and for fighting the war while maybe kicking too much ass.
 
 btw, captain finally got his eyes fixed like it was nothing after getting fucked in the eyes so the entire thing about going blind when exposed to bright light was bullshit.
 
 Since the ship would blow up for "Reasons" and probes aren't going to find Sarek in any meaningful time they send Michaels, Titly and Ash who is also a top rate pilot into the nebula. Michaels makes contact but they have another matrix fight. She loses by default because for drama they pull her out because life signs. Ash says when you're close to dying the last thing you see is your worse regret. So she goes back in for the third time, more matrix fighting and Sarek is finally beaten so he revels his greatest regret.
 
 It turns out Sarek got given the shitty choice of choosing between Spock and her to go into space with the Vulcans because Vulcans are super racist. He chooses Spock because he is forced to choose logic. Yet somehow Sarek is also a racist despite advocating for humans, having a human wife and Spock and Michaels who also calls him a racist. Spock at no point shows up in this episode as Michaels attempt to enter isn't important at all. This truth finally wakes Sarek long enough to activate the distress beacon.
 
 Michaels gets really mega pissy and entitled about not flying with the Vulcan and comes close to disowning Sarek, mocking him while he is in a hospital bed by calling him father super sarcastic. Yeah your father fucked you over and not the super racist Vulcans. **** you Michaels. What a shitty person. Sarek gets a burn on Michaels because he knew she was going to be a shithead no matter what he said.
 
 Admiral Cornwell sleeps the captain. While he sleeps she checks out his scars which no doubt is only mystery box. He freaks out and pulls a phaser on her. She freaks out and gives him the option of leaving command own his own or forced out to get the crazy sorted.
 
 Oh the mission Sarek was going to? It was to broker peace with two of the Klingon houses to help end the war. Sarek to too injured so Cornwell goes in his place. This is a trap duurr. The Klingon slaughter everybody including the hosts except Cornwell. They somehow do this under the nose of an advance race. Klingons grind through some dialogue.
 
 Discovery gets word of her capture. Saru recommends that they go rescue her but he declines because it has to be a double trap. For the viewers this is a blindly obvious lie as he is throwing her to the wolves so he can keep his command knowing she more than likely didn't file any paperwork. Captain continues to sleep with his phaser.
 
 Everyone is 100% racist all the time except humans who are racist 50% of the time.
 
 This episode is special in finding innovative ways to be bad. This **** is getting a second season somehow. Eat a fucking phaser.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 29, 2017, 08:46:53 AM
I heard a rumor that they're in the Mirror Dimension.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 29, 2017, 12:52:13 PM
It can't be the mirror universe as evil beard Spock would have eaten a phaser than live in it from the sheer stupidity of it all.*

More seriously, any mirror universe still has to follow whatever rules the prime universe has and runs parallel events. What happens in STD violates both TOS and the Kelvin universe in every way possible mirror or no mirror.

They never should have used the name Star Trek in the first place as it has nothing to do with it. Even if it wasn't Trek branded the show is fundamentally bad on every level. How can people write something so broken and still get paid. It's not even amateur hour, its wilful destruction.

Just quarantine the damn thing in its own universe and use it as a specimen as to how not to create a show.

*Spock really would.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 01, 2017, 02:53:14 AM
STD Episode 7: Mudd again, Mudd again, Mudd again, stupid again

Time loop episode and the first "Bottle" episode where WAAARARRAR is barely mentioned (Federation is winning). This is also the first "Maybe acceptable but still ****" episode. Not to say it isn't stupid or knows social relationships or doesn't breaks its own rules again or focuses on the wrong part because contract obligations I guess.

Michaels is at party Titly tells her about her horny secrets so that Michaels will finally have a date with Boytoy Ash from security.

Blah blah space whale, science beams it into hanger without consideration of whale needs. Whale vomits bunny suited man who starts killing everyone he can get to. Taunts captain then blows up the ship. Any self respecting Trek person will know what's going on.

Back at party blah blah blah called to bridge Blah Mushroom Man  starts shouting about the whale. Blah blah ship blows up. Steal ship for Klingon to payoff loan. Blah time crystal in whale, 4D aliens :lol: Michaels never fallen in love blah

Ship blows up.

Ship blows up.

Ship blows up.

Ship blows up.

Ship blows up.

The highlight of this episode is a montage of Lorca getting killed repeatedly including one time he is beamed into space. However as everything with STD most of the deaths are uncreative as Mudd just shoots him while the crew mostly passively looks on.

They force some character "Development" with Michaels by requiring her to get close to Ash because Ash doesn't believe Stamos request when asked about details of a Mudd crime because... Klingon prison??? Somehow he treats this as a personal information that only Michaels can get by dancing.

The super big problem with this episode is that it completely focus on the wrong character. If this was Ground Hog Day it would be like following Andie MacDowell as she goes about her day while Bill Murray shows up once in a while to hit on her. Stamos is Bill Murray but we don't get to see him do crazy **** because we are not watching him nor do we see him save the day other than being a macguffin to Mudd.

Suddenly the show finds it is running out of time so half a plan materialises out of nowhere and somehow everyone is in the know but Ash dies so they improvise a a way to get Mudd to reset time again by Michaels killing herself after saying the bounty on her is worth more than the technology :lol:.

A plan materialises again out of magic. The crew explains to Mudd how they beat him by using "Non-critical sub-systems" and calling Stella whose dad has a bounty on Mudd.

The crew is out of the loop and Mudd is for now neutralise by Stella. Lorca instead of giving a shoot on sight order should Starfleet ever sees him again sends him on his merry way. No even a "I better not see you ever" as Lorca isn't even there as it is Ash sending him on his way. No black site for you for knowing one of the Federation's greatest secrets or any number of crime he commits.

This is super extremely dumb as Mudd now knows the inner workings of the Spore Drive but not enough to build one himself. Given the information he probably now has because :lol: they didn't pat him down for a storage device or wipe his brain he could sell it to Klingon all the same at a reduced fee so they have a jumping board to reverse engineer it. The Klingon still know about him so they could kidnap him to see what he knows.

Ending Mega Stupid out of Stupid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2017, 01:48:23 PM
1st 2 episodes of Marvels Runways has leaked, and the critic reviews have given the show praise.

They say it's a teen drama like The O.C. done up by 2 people from Gossip Girl. Reviews all sounded really good.

Another show from Marvel, New Warriors, has tested so good, that they are no longer airing it on Freeform and decided to shop it to other networks (with a larger audience?) instead.

Personally I'm hoping it comes to ABC and gets paired with an AoS season 6.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on November 01, 2017, 02:15:05 PM
Marvel has really been spreading the TV love around.  I find that to be a pretty interesting strategy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 01, 2017, 07:56:36 PM
I meant to post that in the upcoming TV shows thread... But whatever.

But yeah, concentration on Disney owned and Netflix platforms doesn't spread the brand quite far enough I guess.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 06, 2017, 06:07:17 AM
I'm a bit behind on Discovery (i was in the USA last week and Netflix roams when changing countries, so i lost access to Discovery while there) so i only saw last weeks episode yesterday.

Dark Matter did a timeloop episode this year too, and that was far better than Discovery's attempt at this. It's interesting how Stamets never even decided to just "skip a loop" and do whatever he wanted on at least one 30 minute loop or do his own investigating. The only reason that Mudd wasn't shot on sight or arrested, never to be seen of again, is because his character comes back later in the timeline so they were completely tied with what they can do with him - assuming we never see him again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 06, 2017, 10:39:06 AM
Yeah anyone with some Trek knowledge would know. The writers dug themselves into a massive massive hole and threw themselves into it with glee. They never should have chosen him oppose to making an original villain to avoid that very problem. Even then the absurd lack of consequences has to be dealt with.

His name is there to be name dropped, "HEY LOOK THIS IS STAR TREK BECAUSE NAME YOU KNOW"!!!. Khan had the exact same issue in the movie. They dropped him in with absolutely no idea what to do with him or understood why he worked in The Wrath of Khan or simply making a good movie.

I really don't mind war or a little bit more of a realistic bent like DS9 did or a dramatic comedy like the Orville dick jokes and everything. It has to be well made show which STD fails in spades.

The episode was a massive mess and lost opportunity. If this was ground hog day it would be following Andie MacDowell's character who sometimes gets hit on instead of following Bill Murry story where all the interesting things are happening.

Stamets 100% should have been the central character for that episode. But for whatever reason they when with Michaels while shoe horning in some contrived random character "Development" that could have been done later. The secret wasn't even secret or something worth while like some evil she did in the past that Stamets now holds as a potential plot thread. It was a cheap mystery box with a nothing burger.

SG1 nailed it with it's time loop episode by following O'Neill. He flips out, takes breaks, uses the Stargate as a driving range makes, out with Samantha.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 06, 2017, 04:04:30 PM
SG1 nailed it with it's time loop episode by following O'Neill. He flips out, takes breaks, uses the Stargate as a driving range makes, out with Samantha.

That episode, coincidentally, is written by the same person who did the one in Dark Matter i was talking about.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 09, 2017, 04:44:52 AM
Lucifer - “Since I’m not going to be penetrating you, I thought I’d commemorate the one time you penetrated me”. Said completely straight faced, a smile, and with not one hint of irony. I love how ridiculous this show is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 09, 2017, 07:36:04 AM
I finished Dark Matter. Too bad it ends on a cliff hanger. I'm on  Season 2 episode 11 of Enterprise now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 10, 2017, 10:24:02 AM
STD Episode 8: Are we there yet?

A boring but no less stupid episode.

Joke(?) about keeping the war going so you can continue getting laid, to the most humourless person who is most likely to take it literally.

Yes, a giant crystal tower that goes high enough to disappear into the clouds is a "Natural" structure when it is obviously built by some sort of intelligent beings yet they are surprised to run into said beings. Good job Michaels, you couldn't do one of the few things you are specialised in.

Michaels continues not to do the thing that is part of her job by letting Saru to do the heavy lifting of communicating with the beings. She literally sits on her ass spewing regulations and making out with Ash.

The reason that they are even there is to use the tower as a "Sonar" to detect the Klingon ships who now have installed on every ship. Calling it a RADAR would have sounded a lot less stupid as everyone know stealth aircraft is a thing. Whatever.

Saru flips out from his communications with the natives on his own accord because they gave him some peace from his own biological imperative of constant fear. So they gave him a sort of drug equivalent. He claims to speak for them, crushes all the communicators and attacks Michaels and Ash. Michaels then uses her "Logic" regarding an earlier statement that the natives are allowing them to do what they please so she sets off for the tower.

She leaves Ash to distract Saru which lasts all of 5 seconds. Saru fights Michaels at the tower who keeps screaming about harmony the whole way through. She stuns him with her phaser at which point the natives finally intervene by teleporting Ash and telling Saru whatever the hell he was doing wasn't harmony.

Brunt face Klingon wants to defect because she has lost everything including her lover who I assume was boytoy. She gets the admiral to scream in what should have been an interrogation but is a cover for her to drive the guards off so she can ask the admiral to defect.

I assume there was listening devices in the cell or she chose the worse way to defect she pretty much instantly screws it up as she walks the admiral down corridors with out even tying her up. When guards challenge her the admiral pulls the knife because??? They fight and I assume L'Rell killed her but the camera keeps going back to the admiral in a very heavy handed hint she is still alive even after she was told that at least she wouldn't die in a cage.

She drags Cornwall into her room?? where there are a bunch of dead Klingon she cares about who looked like they were murdered a minute before. She then goes to Kol who probably put them to death to swear loyalty. Kol puts on a little show before he revels her very obvious and most stupid plan to defect. She gets dragged away looking surprised.

The natives call both the Discovery and the corpse ship to the planet ending in a cliffhanger. Unless they somehow force or negotiate peace the planet is going to get glassed. Since this is STD they are so going to die.

Hmm I think I have seen an episode somewhere where some powerful aliens broker peace in the middle of a hot war....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on November 10, 2017, 02:31:19 PM
I finished Dark Matter. Too bad it ends on a cliff hanger. I'm on  Season 2 episode 11 of Enterprise now.

That is why I never got into Dark Matter :/
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 10, 2017, 04:09:05 PM
I finished Dark Matter. Too bad it ends on a cliff hanger. I'm on  Season 2 episode 11 of Enterprise now.

On the upside, Enterprise has quite a decent finale*.


*Note: Like many Enterprise fans, I consider the final episode of the series to be Terra Prime. There are no shitty TNG Holodeck fanfics afterwards.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 10, 2017, 06:49:28 PM
Enterprise was cut down just as it was turning into something really good and that's something even worse than the actual finale. I was reading about the plans for Season 5 on Wikipedia a few months back and knowing about the plans for a Romulan War is just further salt on the wound. And Shran was going to be promoted to a regular. I'd have loved to see him hanging around with the crew fulltime. Just a rotten shame that the writers took so long to figure out how to make the setting work in order to start getting better scripts and ideas.

It's something I was ready for in Season 2 when they encounter the Romulans for the first time. But no, the writers wanted to focus on Klingons instead and talk about the Temporal Cold War for which they had no plan. The Temporal Cold War is a thing that sounds very cool and it definitely was an early factor in getting me hooked into Enterprise when it first premiered as a regular viewer. Yet, despite the early intrigue and mystery, it soon devolved into confusing nonsense and ended in a very different manner than I ever expected. Writers should have learned their lesson from DS9 and how things didn't work out to well with the Prophets and Emissary storyline with no real endgame or conclusion in mind. Once the writers realized they didn't like or care where the Temporal Cold War was going and finally just jettisoned that plot point, the series really did take off. But how much faster and better could it have been if they decided early on that the focus of the series would be the creation of the Federation and war with the Romulans? If they'd been building to that a lot sooner than more people may have stuck around with Enterprise as it went through its growing pains.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 10, 2017, 07:26:37 PM
I think the Enterprise writers were working under the assumption that the show was going to run longer than it did and were saving the Romulan War for the later stages. TNG, DS9, and Voyager all went 7 seasons, and it seems like they were expecting Enterprise to do the same and slowly building to the real meat of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 11, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
Lucifer - “Since I’m not going to be penetrating you, I thought I’d commemorate the one time you penetrated me”. Said completely straight faced, a smile, and with not one hint of irony. I love how ridiculous this show is.


i LOL'd at that scene too
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 14, 2017, 06:02:53 PM
This week's episode of Lucifer was fantastic. This show continues to prove why its the best DC property on TV by miles. The gag with the edible sex toys had me in hysterics.

The final scene when you realise that Reese is in his own personal hell, he's put himself there and, according to Lucifer, the "door is unlocked" is just a gut-punch.

I do enjoy Supergirl's heavy focus on "the female experience", and how this season the music and tone feels a lot more solemn and relaxed. I just wish it would mine more of this interesting direction away from relationships, but i'll continue to blame CW for that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 17, 2017, 07:17:08 AM
I still haven't seen Star Trek Discovery, but I don't think it bodes well that its abbreviation would be STD.

I'm on Season 3 of Enterprise. I'm not liking this third season Xindi arc. I just prefer the crew just randomly finding civilizations. I don't care for the temporal war thing either. Also, the sudden change of personality with the crew. I wonder how much 9/11 and the Iraq war influenced these seasons because they were at the same time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 17, 2017, 08:21:07 AM
I still haven't seen Star Trek Discovery, but I don't think it bodes well that its abbreviation would be STD.

I'm on Season 3 of Enterprise. I'm not liking this third season Xindi arc. I just prefer the crew just randomly finding civilizations. I don't care for the temporal war thing either. Also, the sudden change of personality with the crew. I wonder how much 9/11 and the Iraq war influenced these seasons because they were at the same time.

The Xindi Arc goes to some rather bold places towards the end. Just stick with it
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 18, 2017, 10:46:44 PM
3 episodes into The Punisher and so far I'd put it up there with Daredevil. There are still 10 to go, but so far it's been pretty incredible.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 19, 2017, 11:24:15 AM
Just finished the 1st episode of The Punisher.


(edit: just finished ep3.... see below)

damn... this gonna be good ain't it!?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 19, 2017, 11:24:15 PM
Orville Episode 10

Alaria continues to be my favourite character as she kicks 12 kinds of ass day in, day out. I had the biggest **** eating grin when the not-Ripley Aliens theme kicked in.

The jokes are getting better regardless of whether you have a fondness for dick joke equivalents or not.

STD Episode 9: Why would you show us that?

STD gets passed on when we see boytoy(Ash) get raped with detailed Klingon tits. This is the one and gross thing I have seen in Star Trek that I never want to see again. No Ash getting raped but naked STD style Klingon, fucking gross.

Other news: Michaels continues to be a self entitled bitch magic contractually obligated central character. Please fucking kill her.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 20, 2017, 01:15:31 AM
Hang on what?

There's nudity in Discovery now?  Not only swearing, but nudity?  What on earth are they doing?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 20, 2017, 01:49:27 AM
Hang on what?

There's nudity in Discovery now?  Not only swearing, but nudity?  What on earth are they doing?

Its not full frontal Klingon nasties but nipples are there. Neither Kirk or Riker would never, ever tap that.

STD Klingon are already the most comicality over the top monstrous looking alien seen in Trek topped off with 110% the only good Klingon is a dead Klingon.

I was shitting myself with laughter when Michaels calls out Kol's Klingon "Honour" like it's a thing in STD. The same Michaels who after nearly a decade of living in a normal(non-Vulcan) social environment whose speciality is the study of alien culture who didn't even take a couple of days to study human culture out of a book so to fit in better while crying about not/being human invokes Klingon honour.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2017, 02:16:20 AM
Not to distract from the clearly important topic of Klingon breasts and whether or not they are being flashed with STD but I was just going to chime in on my current quick takes of the old CW superhero shows.

After taking a break from them all for about a year and a half since they seemed to be sagging in quality a bit, I happened to be at the library and saw they had last years seasons on DVD available so I've started doing some catch-up on them. I was particularly interested in Arrow because I thought I saw a lot of high marks for its episodes as they were reviewed last year on a few sites so it kept my interest in wanting to check out Season 5 eventually and knowing they added Slade/Deathstroke back into the show again near the end had me further intrigued. Plus, I knew the villain was Prometheus who's supposed to be sort a Batman of crime in being highly intelligent and able to take on any threat with all kinds of back-up plans and scenarios. A sort of Moriarty I suppose even though I can't recall ever reading too many comic stories with him in them.

Anyways, before I delve into Arrow, let's talk about the others. At this point, I've watched up to the Invasion crossover episodes of the other three series.

Supergirl - Winner of best improved series has to be this show. When I walked away from these superhero shows, Supergirl was the worst of the bunch full of weird tonal issues, bleh romantic drama of Jimmy, Lucy and Kara, overpreachy lessons from Cat Grant and all manner of odd choices like not showing Superman's face to weird aerial fights. When Season 1 ended, it was at the bottom of my list for the Arrowverse shows and it was frustrating to watch because it had some elements that could have made for a much better show. The best episode for me was The Flash crossover episode. The characterization of a bubbly, excited Kara able to geek out with another superhero and not be so angsty about public perceptions of her or her place in National City was the direction I felt should be taken with her. Even the supporting cast worked well in that episode and it had me envisioning a future direction for the show in which it went in a bit of a Star Trek direction dealing with aliens more or sci-fi anomalies / ideas and technobabble with a happier Kara excited by these new phenomena.

Now that's not exactly the way the show has gone but credit to whoever looked at this show in order to figure out how to fix it from the state it was in Season 1 because Season 2 has been a blast so far. Bringing Superman/Clark into the show at the start of the season was awesome and I'm glad they got over whatever reason was holding him back from being shown in Season 1. It brought back the Kara I saw in The Flash crossover episode and it seems to have stuck as the season continues. That doesn't mean she has to be happy all the time or that things have been drama free on her end but she's definitely less mopey, a bit more mature and a bit more positive and I think that's the right spirit for a Superman or Supergirl show.

Yes, in some ways, the show has moved even closer to an almost genderswapped Superman show with classic Superman villains now appearing in Supergirl like Metallo and Parasite and Kara is now trying to learn to be a reporter but it's not like we are going to see a Superman show on TV any time soon so might as well let Supergirl incorporate those elements and use them. As a Superman fan, I'm still happy to see these elements being used. I particularly liked the take on Parasite that was presented so if this show can start to equal Superman:TAS then it is definitely doing something right.

Of course, there is the awkward phase at the start of the season where things have to be readjusted from the end of last season to explain away changes by crew or set direction. After the whole Jimmy Olsen romance sub-plot that went on so long from last year, it feels out of character to immediately have Kara decide that dating Jimmy isn't what she wants so that she's back to be single again this year. Cat Grant decides to leave the company to "dive in" to something else. What that something is doesn't get mentioned but Cat's doing it and we say goodbye to her with possibility of guest appearances. I'm okay with it though since Cat Grant was a big part of Season 1's awkwardness and I think the show is proving to be stronger without her. Moving Wynn out of Cat Grant and into DEO is a better fit for that character. Kara no longer being a struggling secretary is refreshing change of pace. I did like when Lucy Lane ended up in charge of the DEO near the end of last season and working towards friendship with Kara. However, to have her just gone completely makes me wonder just what the point was in featuring her so much in Season 1. Same goes for Maxwell Lord. Maxwell was being treated as a substitute Lex Luthor anyways and by bringing in the Luthor family for Season 2, it goes to show it's better to have the real thing even if Lex himself isn't popping up. It just seems strange to have no mention of Maxwell or Lucy after all their time in Season 1.

The Alex/Maggie subplot is the only thing I've felt that's been dragging a bit this season but I've seen worse relationship dramas in superhero shows and, other than that, now that the cast and crew have made their adjustments and tweaks to this season and have started to find their groove, everything else is starting to gel a lot better. The secondary characters being introduced and added to this season are all working out a lot better that Season 1's and episodes have been more exciting to watch. I'm just surprised at how pumped I am to be watching this show and want to keep watching it. Great job, people!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2017, 03:20:42 AM
Legends of Tomorrow - Maybe the absence of these superhero shows has made me fonder of them as I return to them than if I'd stuck with watching them as they aired last year but, like Supergirl, LoT also seems to have improved a bit from last year. Of course, I thought it was a show that got better as it went along and it actually had some explanations for some of the actions and events in earlier episodes that were questionable so that by the end of Season 1, it was a show that was mildly good but hamstrung with boneheaded character decisions. Losing one of the best characters of the show in Captain Cold wasn't exactly a positive to make me want to continue with Season 2 along with the nonsensical time travel rules the show seems to have. However, Season 1 did end with tossing out Vandal Savage and the Hawks storyline and the effect of jettisoning those characters has clearly been a big part of Season 2 being an improvement over Season 1. The additions of Vixen and Steel haven't added much to the show for me but at least they aren't dragging it down like the Hawks were. The mystery of what happened to Rip Hunter has been lowkey which I'm fine with since his absence hasn't really bothered me. A lot of his storyline was tied up in the Vandal Savage storyline anyways so with those elements gone, his presence doesn't seem to be necessary.

It hit me early on, particularly with the Shogun episode, that this show is just about having adventures through time. It just gives the chance for the actors to play dress-up and ham things up a bit in different eras and cultures of history and the whole patrolling time thing isn't actually being taken that serious. For instance, in the Shogun episode, the characters kill a bunch of samurai and a Shogun. Shouldn't all those deaths and seemingly blatent violations of time travel had a ripple effect throughout history? Apparently not as Gideon doesn't bring up any changes to the timeline caused by the excursion and no one else questions their actions. It was at this point that I realized the history of Legends of Tomorrow isn't our actual history but the history of this fictional Arrowverse world which free to be manipulated however these characters want since it has no major consequences to time or history. It's just big, dumb, colorful fun of fighting Nazis in WW2 or poking fun at 80's fashions and attitudes or indulging in cowboy fantasies in the Wild West all while Mick growls and grumbles his way through each adventure. And I'm alright with that.

Sure, I'd like to see better care taken with time travel since they talk it up as their important mission to preserve the timeline but at least it is succeeding as far as the whole superhero team-up premise of the show is concerned. By jumping around to different time periods, the show always seems to have a lot of material to work with and episodes fly by with all kinds of whiz-bang action and silly humour. Frankly, I think it might be Blake Neely's favorite show since the music seems to be a lot more varied and appealing compared to the other three he's also scoring. Or at least, I've been noticing the different musical scores and themes he's been composing for this show as it tries to invoke these different eras and classic types of scores and sounds to evoke them.

There is a scene in the Wild West episode before the Invasion crossover where Jackson and Heywood want to infiltrate a mining operation after learning it's an important part of the villain's scheme that episode. Ray Palmer interjects that they could do the responsible thing instead and just return to the ship to tell the rest of the team what they've learned. Jackson looks at him incredulously and asks "Are you kidding me?" disappointed that Ray would ruin this chance to let them further pursue this opportunity to be old west gunslingers. They look at each other a bit stonefaced in silence and then Ray breaks out a big smile and says something like "Yeah, let's giddy-up and check out that mine!" and then they all laugh and backslap each other. That about sums up Legends of Tomorrow. Sure, the characters could act smarter and maybe know they should and the show could try to take more care with how time travel and manipulating the past works but, eh screw it, let just get into a gun battle and a bunch of explosions instead. It keeps the series at a B level yet at least the crew seems to know it's a B series and are happy to let the show revel in its silliness.

Not as good as Supergirl S02 or Arrow S05 so far but better than the season 1 it had last year and The Flash S03. I'm also more willing and ready to keep watching the rest of this season and this show than when I left it at the end of Season 1 so good on it for being able to fix itself up a bit from when I last left it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 20, 2017, 03:28:36 AM
Hang on what?

There's nudity in Discovery now?  Not only swearing, but nudity?  What on earth are they doing?

Its not full frontal Klingon nasties but nipples are there. Neither Kirk or Riker would never, ever tap that.

STD Klingon are already the most comicality over the top monstrous looking alien seen in Trek topped off with 110% the only good Klingon is a dead Klingon.

I was shitting myself with laughter when Michaels calls out Kol's Klingon "Honour" like it's a thing in STD. The same Michaels who after nearly a decade of living in a normal(non-Vulcan) social environment whose speciality is the study of alien culture who didn't even take a couple of days to study human culture out of a book so to fit in better while crying about not/being human invokes Klingon honour.

The thing about Klingon honor in this or any other Star Trek is that it only ever really exists in the minds of people who study Klingon culture from afar. Virtually nobody who's actually a part of Klingon society treats it with more than lip service. There are exceptions here or there with a big one being Martok in Deep Space 9, but even there he's portrayed as something of an outlier, apart from normal Klingon circles until he's forced into a larger role, or more accurately dragged into it by Worf, the ultimate example of someone who studied Klingon culture from afar.

As for Burnham, it seems pretty clear from the show that her not assimilating into human culture was a conscious choice on her part, not a lack of ability or perception. Also, fixating on Klingon traits makes sense given her history with them.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2017, 04:01:04 AM
The Flash - On the other hand, not every show seems to have improved since I last saw it. The Flash S03 would be proof of that. It's weird that when The Flash first started out it was at the same time Arrow was stumbling a bit during it's Season 3 and its Ra's Al Ghul plot which caused a lot of people to compare The Flash as better than Arrow. Even though The Flash has been a stronger adaptation to its comic counterpart and had a lot of great comic book action and scenarios with multiple earths and time-travel, somehow the show has become a bit of a downer and the thrills and energy it had begun building in Season 1 petered out a bit into Season 2 and it just hasn't been able to capture that energy since.

It has started to become a bit more Arrow-like with some of its drama and tragedies resulting in a darker show but I don't think that's the right fit for The Flash. Like Superman/Supergirl, I feel The Flash is better suited with more positivity and a lighter tone/style. That doesn't mean you can't have drama or tragedy occur in those properties but it takes a bit more care to pull off. Right now, it just seems like every character on the show is depressed and that feeling rubs off on the viewer making the show a depressing affair to watch. It doesn't help that the Flashpoint event has caused changes to the characters and events which sort of ruins/eliminates developments that came which makes what a person has watched before a bit pointless. Time travel seemed like a pretty awesome cool plot point that could be used when it was first discovered in Season 1 but I'm starting to think time travel has been a mistake for this show especially with how dumb Barry has handled it at times.

I notice I don't seem to have much enthusiasm or interest in watching the next episode of this show and have to kind of push myself to do it which is not a good sign for a show. Whereas Supergirl, Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow all seem to be rebounding strong or flat out improving in quality, The Flash is the only show that seems to have gotten worse. It'll be the series and season I probably end up finishing last and is the one I'm tempted to drop again but I've gone this far into the season so I might as well play it out and see where it goes. It's just too bad that with all the great material the show has had to work with like Gorilla Grodd, Earth-2, King Shark, meta-humans, or The Rogues (with one more shout out to time travel) that this is the state of affairs the show has now ended up in and it has become such a letdown.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 20, 2017, 04:07:57 AM
Even if it was an concise choice not to learn anything if she was such an adherent to logic she would try to learn something for utility or curiosity like other Vulcan's do despite their displeasure for humans. Then there is the case of simply learning from osmosis that you can't get away from. If Spock can do it why can't a human who are inescapably driven by emotion short of being brain damaged?

Its seriously nonsense.

Honour is real among Klingon as it is enough to start wars, blood oaths and death matches very consistently. Not all Klingon adhere to this but it is real that goes far beyond lip service. Its not much different from Samurai honour where it isn't real until it was. If honour wasn't a thing Michaels would have appealed to his authority, breaking her and his personal pleasure of beating her up in front of the crew. It would be a similar taunt that Matrix did to Bennett in commando.

Its a repeat of the same issue where if they just called it a reboot not the prime universe they would get away with all these chances instead of begging you to hand wave every intentionally error they make trying to overwrite everything Trek.
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Super girl season 1 was quite amusing and looked forward to as to how they would write Superman out whenever he should appear to save the day. Is was something of a mess and Kara really saved the show.

Season 2 was a definite step up. While I don't personally agree with about showing Superman I see why they did it and the necessity of doing so. What they did with it was good.

Flashpoint invasion is the lowest point of the series. Enough said.
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Legends works because it was never serious and they establish ahead of time the rules of time travel is more suggestions than rules. The one important rule that they have been consistent about is is the anachronisms and that they are bad with some exceptions.

Rip Hunter is easily my favourite and that is almost 100% Arthur Darvill's ability as an actor. He steals whatever scene he appears in.

As for everyone else I feel pretty neutral about the individual characters but as a team they are great. They pretty much can't be left alone.

Thank god the hawk people fucked off. They were the worse.

There is a problem with the current season and that is 100% the villain. I don't know what he is doing or why he is a threat to the point Rip is unleashing the team despite all the protests and breaking his own rules. All I know is that he is messing with time and he is very, very powerful while on/off wants to kill the team and is a bad person.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 20, 2017, 04:32:26 AM
Her problem is that she has essentially chosen to live as a Vulcan, but she has all the drawbacks of a Vulcan without some of the things that make them work. Some of that's the trauma she went through, some of that's human physiology, some of it's just who she is. Of course she compares unfavorably to Spock, I'd wager virtually every Federation citizen in the 23rd century does. He is one of the most exceptional individuals we ever see in Star Trek, whereas Michael Burnham is a very flawed character, intentionally so.

It's really not that hard to reconcile this show with the rest of the prime timeline, and not especially more so than it was with any of the shows that came before it. It takes just as much mental gymnastics to try to make the original series consistent with itself as it does to make it fit with Discovery. Again, it just seems like you just don't want to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 20, 2017, 09:47:18 AM
The problem with your argument is that if I have to try that hard to even try to reconcile the differences if it is even possible its fucked. I shouldn't have to try, I should be able suspend my disbelieve near effortlessly. It's not my job to do this, it is the creators, it is a massive sign of failure on the show runners part.

As for the reference to Spock I am just using him as an easy example. The same can be applied to Tuvok. T'Pol or any other Vulcan who do the minimum of learning about humans when they interact even if its the racist as hell ones for the utility or to throw shade. Nor is it impossible to make an emotional appeal to a Vulcan.

Michaels wasn't alone either as she had Amanda giving her emotional support. She didn't grow up in a single parent family. Amanda is strong enough to influence Spock.

Then there is the fact it is her job to study alien cultures, her job. If she chooses to live as a Vulcan then humans are aliens and she should study them like any other. If she thinks of herself as a human then she should learn something about being a human so she can relate to other cultures and the illogicality that they can display. She is wilfully negligent in her duty.

As I said I am very forgiving if you tell a good story, good characters with solid actors and is well made with plenty of effort which STD has failed to do every episode. They chose to tie themselves to the TOS Prime era and all the baggage that come with it. They wilfully built their foundation on liquefied sand. The writers don't give a damn and if they don't why should the audience. They had a perfectly good out but they are so full of themselves they couldn't resist.

If you remove all the Trek branding it is still a terrible show that can barely stand on its own two feet. This is inescapable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2017, 05:10:16 PM
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Super girl season 1 was quite amusing and looked forward to as to how they would write Superman out whenever he should appear to save the day. Is was something of a mess and Kara really saved the show.

Season 2 was a definite step up. While I don't personally agree with about showing Superman I see why they did it and the necessity of doing so. What they did with it was good.

Flashpoint invasion is the lowest point of the series. Enough said.

Are you saying Flashpoint Invasion is the lowest point of Supergirl Season 2 or The Flash Season 3?

Writing around Superman just kind of drew more attention to Superman so just having him show up and be done with that contrivance is definitely a smart move. Plus, Kara's relationship with Superman should be an important relationship in her life since he's family and one of the last Krypton survivors. Her happiness at teaming up with Clark in the first two episodes is infectious and I'd be onboard to see more of that. I liked seeing that relationship in action.

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Legends works because it was never serious and they establish ahead of time the rules of time travel is more suggestions than rules. The one important rule that they have been consistent about is is the anachronisms and that they are bad with some exceptions.

Rip Hunter is easily my favourite and that is almost 100% Arthur Darvill's ability as an actor. He steals whatever scene he appears in.

As for everyone else I feel pretty neutral about the individual characters but as a team they are great. They pretty much can't be left alone.

Eh, Rip Hunter always presented time as this important thing they shouldn't mess up at was constantly harping on the team when things went wrong in the first season for awhile but it's definitely moved away from that to only care about an actually big change or aberration as you mention. By realizing that it isn't taking itself seriously, I've been won over a lot more with this season than the first.

It's true what you say about the characters though. On their own, they aren't exactly magnetic but just keeping them together to bounce off each other makes them all work.

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There is a problem with the current season and that is 100% the villain. I don't know what he is doing or why he is a threat to the point Rip is unleashing the team despite all the protests and breaking his own rules. All I know is that he is messing with time and he is very, very powerful while on/off wants to kill the team and is a bad person.

I'm guessing you are talking about Season 3 but I'm not there yet. Villains are just Reverse Flash and Damian Darhk for Season 2. In a way, it's kind of disappointing that the villains are failed Arrow and Flash foes teaming up but maybe this will give them something better to do than what they did on the original shows they came from. Right now, they just seem like a bit of a retread. It's also kind of weird that Reverse Flash wouldn't continue to be featured as a threat on The Flash. Darhk's prescence doesn't bother me as much since he never felt like he belonged much in the world of Arrow and his Lazurus Pit connection allows for more past encounters.

May the Hawks never return.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 20, 2017, 06:48:51 PM
Flashpoint as in Supergirl. It gets dropped in out of nowhere after Mr. Mxyztptlk shows up. She jumps into a literal hole in the air because why not?? and you wouldn't know what happened unless you found the flashpoint thing or watch the Flash which I don't. Flashpoint crossover was terrible all the same.


Are you saying Flashpoint Invasion is the lowest point of Supergirl Season 2 or The Flash Season 3?

Writing around Superman just kind of drew more attention to Superman so just having him show up and be done with that contrivance is definitely a smart move. Plus, Kara's relationship with Superman should be an important relationship in her life since he's family and one of the last Krypton survivors. Her happiness at teaming up with Clark in the first two episodes is infectious and I'd be onboard to see more of that. I liked seeing that relationship in action.

What they did was good and is the right choice. I just take too much pleasure in seeing the writers squirm around writing Supes out.

Eh, Rip Hunter always presented time as this important thing they shouldn't mess up at was constantly harping on the team when things went wrong in the first season for awhile but it's definitely moved away from that to only care about an actually big change or aberration as you mention. By realizing that it isn't taking itself seriously, I've been won over a lot more with this season than the first.

Time is still important and Rip is dead serious about it. The tone was set early on from him assembling what is basically a team of expendable losers who aren't dead serious. As much as they fuckup they will step up to the plate and they 110% understand the importance of protecting time. Their methods and ability to do so is questionable.

The rules which govern their time travel is very fuzzy with very few "Hard" rules but they do try to keep it consistent within the context of the show where if you **** it you fix it. The thing with time travel is that if your show is built on that you have to have very loose rules or else you will write yourself into a corner. It's why they have the joke of time travelling causing speech problems to un-serious it.

But it is not a free pass to do whatever and the writers are very aware of this. When the writers break their own rules it is very intentional and is meant to cause more problems than it solves. Most of the time they treat time as a vehicle much like the wave rider to the next adventure than a central plot point, a monster of the week generator if you will.

I'm guessing you are talking about Season 3 but I'm not there yet. Villains are just Reverse Flash and Damian Darhk for Season 2. In a way, it's kind of disappointing that the villains are failed Arrow and Flash foes teaming up but maybe this will give them something better to do than what they did on the original shows they came from. Right now, they just seem like a bit of a retread. It's also kind of weird that Reverse Flash wouldn't continue to be featured as a threat on The Flash. Darhk's prescence doesn't bother me as much since he never felt like he belonged much in the world of Arrow and his Lazurus Pit connection allows for more past encounters.

Yeah, I am talking season 3. Season 2 villains is a stroke of genius as they are an evil loser equivalent to the team. They aren't very serious even if their goals are. They spend a significant amount of time calling each other losers.

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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 20, 2017, 07:11:36 PM
As for Arrow, I am really digging Season 5. This is the best season it's had since the first two and a total rebound season for this show as far as I'm concerned. I've got about 5 episodes left in the season to see if sticks the landing but, at this point, even if it does stumble a bit, I've been really impressed by this season that I'd probably still give it an A grade but here's hoping it concludes well. At this point, the only other series that might give it a run for it's money as top show in the Arrowverse is Supergirl Season 2 so I'm curious to see how the rest of the season plays out and stacks up compared to Arrow Season 5.

Watching Arrow Season 5 kind of makes it feel like the past two seasons (3 & 4) were just filler until they could get into this season. It was especially kind of lol-worthy when Oliver has to face all his former foes to escape the dream machine him and his allies are trapped in during the Invasion plotline and Ra's Al Ghul is the only one to not show up. Sure, Manu Bennett isn't there but at least they could cover that up by having someone in the Deathstroke costume.

There's so much I'd like to get into about this show but I'm just going to list off all manner of points. First, they really nailed the casting of Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen. Having been away from the series for awhile and coming back to it, I've been super impressed again about how well he plays the role and thanks to him the producers have been able to make this whole Arrowverse. Even in Invasion, he keeps your focus and attention amongst all those other heroes and characters and you want to see his interactions with them all. He conveys and handles the internal struggles he faces much better than the leads on the other shows. He's still the driving force on Arrow and, after having to work through some less than stellar material the past couple seasons, it's been a good reminder to see what he can do with stronger material to work with.

Of course, Arrow's been helped by still having a strong supporting cast. Diggle's great, Felicity is way more tolerable and appealing again, I wish Thea would get more screen time because she's been one of the best members since Season 3, Lance is working much better with his new role and limited screen prescence. Even the new team has worked out pretty well with just the new Black Canary a bit too much a blank slate to be able to say definitely whether she's a strong or weak addition.

The flashbacks are no longer a weakness and thanks to the return of Anatoli, they feel like they are building a bigger world again. Having Dolph Lundgren show up as a Russian Villain has further made them more appealing and the surprise appearance by Talia has given them an intrigue they haven't been able to capture in awhile. In fact, much like how Deathstroke took over by the end of Season 2, I'm beginning to wonder if maybe Talia will turn out to be the bigger threat by Season's end. In any case, Oliver's adventures with the Bratva and Russian mob has moved along at a better pace, been easier to follow as their plot unfolds (I seriously have a hard time trying to recollect what the story of the Season 3 flashbacks was or how it played out) and have felt more relevant to his journey of becoming the Green Arrow than the last couple seasons of flashbacks.

But the real draw of the season for me was Prometheus and he has lived up to my expectations. I've particularly like the latest few episodes in which Oliver and Company have learned his true identity but have been unable to act against him and the constant taunting between him and everyone else. The actor playing Prometheus has a wonderfully detached menace to him. My only disappointment is that it was kind of easy to suspect who Prometheus was from the beginning since every new character introduced in a season nearly seems to end up as a villain unless they have a good guy identity they are based on and this character always had a bit of strangeness and menace when in his daily public persona. Realizing that it was Worf who was voicing Prometheus, I was hoping that it might be Michael Dorn himself or someone else behind the mask but it was not to be. On the plus side, I was glad that Billy didn't turn out to be a villain and found that little arc rather surprising. There's still the question of who Vigilante is and I've got a suspect in mind even if it doesn't make much sense but I'm waiting to see if I'm right on that or not.

I am a bit surprised at the amount of violence that seems to be occurring on the show though. I don't remember it being as high as it seems to be this season. There was one moment in Russia where Oliver is first working with Talia and he's shooting down a bunch of Russian mobsters with a gun. It gave me deja vu to the John Wick series with the way it was shot and how he was taking down the enemies to make sure they were dead. One of the positives of Season 4 was that the crew seemed to realize the action had sagged in Season 3 and worked to improve on that with some really interesting visual camerawork and improved action. That action seems to have carried over to Season 5 although without some of the handheld/shaky cam they tested in Season 4. However, sometimes that action just comes across as too choreographed with so many perfect blocks and ducks and leaps as characters fight each other. Most fights are hardly like that. They are much more messy. I still think the Bourne movies are a good basis for how a fight scene should play out. The fights in Arrow, while impressive, are a bit too clean and like a dance routine.

That's enough for now. I've written plenty. I'm done at the moment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 21, 2017, 01:36:44 PM
And Arrow sticks the landing! Man, what a season. Maybe there is some recency bias in play here since it's been over 3 years since Arrow Season 2 aired so it's hard to remember when it was really good but I think Season 5 is equal to Season 2 and might actually be in the running for its best season yet. I can't believe more people here aren't talking about it. Did everyone stop watching after Season 4 also?

Thats a pity, as I had hoped S5 would be a great closure on Oliver's flashbacks from the island. One season for every year he was "stranded". I had even hoped for a nice finale/series type closure. Maybe not an end to the series, but a good closure where they could logically re-frame the show in a new era/style of sorts. But on all accounts, S3 sounds like a better "closing" than S5 was, which is a shame.

Having just watched it, I'd say your wish is granted. Probably since they knew the flashbacks were coming to an end for the 5 year history before Oliver returns from the island, I think the writers went back to the first few seasons to figure out what they still needed to establish and set-up in Oliver's past and I wonder if returning and looking closely at those first seasons helped re-align this show and get it back on track after spinning its wheels and fumbling around the last couple seasons.

Again, there's a lot I thought this show did right and I've said before that I find it hard to binge-watch shows but this has been a bit of an exception as I've been plowing through about 4-5 episodes a day the past few days because I just couldn't wait to get into the next one. That anticipation for the next episode hasn't been this strong since Season 2. There's a lot I may get into yet but this season has really re-energized my interest in this show and made me a fan again. I'll probably catch up on all Season 6 has done so far because I want more!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 23, 2017, 02:01:49 AM
I'm really getting sucked back into Arrowverse. I hit the point of the S2 Legends crossover, so I'm putting that show on hold and watching Arrow and Flash. Trying to get them all aligned so I can watch them all together for the sake of the crossovers. Also nice to see the intro's for some of the characters from Legends in the other shows.


I have decided to avoid Supergirls other than the cross over episodes, because I just don't have the time or interest to stick with that one as well (doesn't help that the show seems to have little to do with the other three). Wasn't there supposed to be another Arrowverse show somewhere down the line?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 23, 2017, 03:38:58 AM
If you're referring to Black Lightning, that is apparently not part of the Arrowverse.  For now at least.  They said the same thing about Supergirl but that didn't take long to change.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 23, 2017, 04:34:00 AM
Watch Supergirl is you want something that isn't grim dark. The first season is a bit rough but it isn't bad, its mostly badly written love triangle. You get that Supes heroics that the movies has murdered in their shows. In the first season it becomes a running joke as to who doesn't know who Supergirl is.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2017, 04:19:21 PM
The Punisher Ep12

OMG Holy ****... O_o
glad I'm not the queasy type..... got damn....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on November 24, 2017, 04:36:11 PM
My browser was minimized for that lol.  I would have lost my whole stomach I imagine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 24, 2017, 04:38:21 PM
Watch Supergirl is you want something that isn't grim dark. The first season is a bit rough but it isn't bad, its mostly badly written love triangle. You get that Supes heroics that the movies has murdered in their shows. In the first season it becomes a running joke as to who doesn't know who Supergirl is.

Has it improved over the 2nd season? I thought the 1st season was rough & tedious, but mostly inoffensive. But I HATED that 2nd season between the shoehorned politics, the mediocre crossovers, & some various story beats I wasn't fond of. I like the tone of Supergirl, but I just couldn't stand the terrible writing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 24, 2017, 05:07:51 PM
My browser was minimized for that lol.  I would have lost my whole stomach I imagine.

Well... #13 was only a little better. LOL
the screams... burned in my mental, as if you could hear them when looking in a mirror.... o_O


Official review of The Punisher S1:
Return to form for Netflix Marvel shows. IF and The Defenders were a bit of a let down, and I haven't even thought twice about Inhumans since it aired... or completed it's "limited series" run. But The Punisher is more in line w/ S1 of Daredevil, which definitely means it's recommended, but fair warning below:
It's certainly not for those with a weak stomach for violence, and in some parts extreme amounts of blood, violence and gore (especially ep 12& 13). View at your own risk, and not recommended for children due to violence, gore, language and nudity in brief sexual scenes.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 24, 2017, 06:02:48 PM
My browser was minimized for that lol.  I would have lost my whole stomach I imagine.

Well... #13 was only a little better. LOL
the screams... burned in my mental, as if you could hear them when looking in a mirror.... o_O


Official review of The Punisher S1:
Return to form for Netflix Marvel shows. IF and The Defenders were a bit of a let down, and I haven't even thought twice about Inhumans since it aired... or completed it's "limited series" run. But The Punisher is more in line w/ S1 of Daredevil, which definitely means it's recommended, but fair warning below:
It's certainly not for those with a weak stomach for violence, and in some parts extreme amounts of blood, violence and gore (especially ep 12& 13). View at your own risk, and not recommended for children due to violence, gore, language and nudity in brief sexual scenes.


Yeah, there was some stupid reviewer that complained about Punisher being kind of tame. All I could think about was that it had some Ultra Glen Violence. They must not have watched the same show I did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 25, 2017, 08:28:22 AM
The Punisher - 9/10
Amazing from beginning to end, with only a couple of minor hiccups along the way. Really the only issues I have with the show is they are made Frank a little too nice when he's not...punishing, and the end when he says "I'm scared." Yes, they changed Billy Russo's backstory pretty drastically, but I think that makes him a better villain. Jigsaw was a little too one dimensional in the comics. Other than that...honestly, it was pretty spectacular. I don't know where some of these reviews come from when they say stuff like "it may not be what you expect" - it's pretty much exactly what I expected - development of a larger story for Frank Castle's family getting killed, sprinkled with Frank Castle murdering the absolute **** out of (almost) anyone who had anything to do with his family getting killed, while dealing with his newfound friend, Micro. It is also *incredibly* violent. I put it right next to Daredevil as far as Netflix series are concerned.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 25, 2017, 01:56:49 PM
Star Trek: Enterprise 8.5/10
I binged watched the entire series over the last couple of days. Something I hadn't done for any other Star Trek. Previous Star Treks I caught most of the episode when they were on the air. When Enterprise originally aired I only watched the first Episode and then was too busy with school to get into it. I decided to binge watch this after finishing Dark Matter and it was a good choice.  This has some really good stuff. Not all episodes are great and I really didn't care for season 3 because of the serialization. I think whatever they were trying to do with serialization in season 3 they did much better in season 4. Season 4 was like watching several movies. Overall, a mostly enjoyable series.

RIP Trip
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 27, 2017, 03:10:37 PM
Marvel's Runaways.

only 3 episodes released so far, but so far I like it. I don't know anything about the characters coming into this, so it's all new to me, but they have me wanting more as they slowly reveal what is going on.
And so far there has been no mention or reference to "The Incident in New York", "The Big Green Guy", "the guy with the Hammer", or anything else that would tie it into the overall Marvel Cinematic Universe (that I've noticed) which I think is good as it allows ti to just be it's own thing for now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 29, 2017, 12:44:09 AM
Supergirl episode 8: The Earth X crisis crossover

This is a much, much better crossover so far. There was a reason and a setup for it so it didn't come out of nowhere like last time. The Supergirl fight in this episode just puts Synder to shame.

Even the Legends show up and everybody who goes near them are cracking jokes at or become a subject of a joke.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 29, 2017, 04:43:53 AM
Supergirl episode 8: The Earth X crisis crossover

This is a much, much better crossover so far. There was a reason and a setup for it so it didn't come out of nowhere like last time. The Supergirl fight in this episode just puts Synder to shame.

Even the Legends show up and everybody who goes near them are cracking jokes at or become a subject of a joke.

I haven't seen the episodes yet but i love the dynamic that the Legends are screwups but they are *their* screwups.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 30, 2017, 03:53:39 PM
Mick has gone from being the most useless character in Legends S1 to the most entertaining in the Arrowverse.

Just putting that out there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 01, 2017, 02:04:54 AM
Since I don't follow the other 2 shows I ended up watching the first episode of crisis and jumped to the last with Legends. Much better than last time and it came with a punch in the dick. I should hunt down the other two episodes as I am pretty confused as to what happened.

I know they are trying to get people to cross watch the shows but that isn't going to happen for me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 01, 2017, 03:08:13 PM
Marvel's Runaways.

only 3 episodes released so far, but so far I like it. I don't know anything about the characters coming into this, so it's all new to me, but they have me wanting more as they slowly reveal what is going on.
And so far there has been no mention or reference to "The Incident in New York", "The Big Green Guy", "the guy with the Hammer", or anything else that would tie it into the overall Marvel Cinematic Universe (that I've noticed) which I think is good as it allows ti to just be it's own thing for now.

currently watching Ep4.
did I mention there is a Velociraptor on this show....
and 4 of the 6 kids have revealed what makes them special so far


This makes me appreciate the Netflix format of release all at once, but I understand the appeal of 1 ep a week, to keep people coming back. I just want to binge watch this entire show all at once though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on December 02, 2017, 04:10:38 PM
AoS return.

I don't think the first two episodes were as grabbing as the Ghost Rider from S4, but they're certainly set up for a very intriguing story.  I'm certainly in.

Also, Mack has now officially become the best character in the show.  I was ACTUALLY laughing out loud at some of his comments, particularly in the first episode. 

I'm still bummed Mack didn't become Luke Cage.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2017, 02:11:46 AM
Mack probably would have been an awesome Luke Cage, but then we wouldn't have had an awesome Mack. And Mack was dropping lines in the 1st of the 2 episodes. real 3.5th wall truths.

Good Season premiere, real interested to know where this is going and how things get back to umm... "normal". Also real curious how this is going to tie in with upcoming movie events, and if Disney is gonna force a green light on that 6th season (and then a movie ;) <appearance - A4>)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2017, 03:12:59 AM
Orville Episode 11

Just as I think the show couldn't get any better it ninja's you.

Really good character development for two people at the same time while reinforcing previous episodes development. Great jokes. Throw in a never seen before super cool space thing and you have an episode that can stand with or rise above the best of Trek.

Seriously, I don't think anybody anywhere has done on TV what this episode has done. I have read up about it but to see it is amazing. You will know it when you see it.

Isaac "Are we, bonding?".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2017, 10:23:39 AM
Wow... The turn around in The Orville has me almost curious enough to check it out.
I guess McFarlane has yet another hit on his hands? Are the ratings good too?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2017, 02:43:25 PM
What turn around? The Orville has always been good.

There is a massive critic-viewer split so big it's a rip in space time. The critic pan it because they couldn't get over the jokes which are meant to bootstrap the characters, internal culture and counter nostalgia so it could be it's own show even though it is not-trek.

I don't really understand what the deal people have with McFarlane but the guy is crazy talented and he knows he is doing. Orville could have been a crap ego vanity project where he plays space Captain on someone else's dime but he didn't. He made a high quality show seasoned with his take on humour which brings to life what could have been a very dry show.

It could have gone very, very, very wrong judging by STD, JJ movies and the "Best" independent/fan movies.

It most episodes he isn't the focus at all with some episodes he gets absurdly little screen time. He really does play Captain where he directs people to solve the problem and you follow that character instead to develop them. They get to be clever, badass, centre of attention. There is no designated main character.

He isn't Picard or Sisko, or Kirk, or Archer, as tempting as it is to play one of them he plays his own captain. He is possibly playing "Himself" but shifting the context of his leadership from running shows and bringing talents together to make something as a captain instead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 03, 2017, 06:39:16 PM
The turn around in initial viewer perception as to what the show turned out to be.
Everyone went in thinking it was some sort Star trek parody comedy show, and were shocked that there was little humor and it was more drama than anything. Some were turned off thinking it was sub par, other disappointed it wasn't what they expected, and now I'm hearing it's actually a good show, with moments/episodes that rival some of the best of Star Trek... from Seth "Family Guy" MacFarlane.
That's the turn around. I'm surprised it still going strong in quality, now I'm just curious how the ratings are to see if it gets a 2nd season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 03, 2017, 07:22:08 PM
What turn around? The Orville has always been good.

There is a massive critic-viewer split so big it's a rip in space time. The critic pan it because they couldn't get over the jokes which are meant to bootstrap the characters, internal culture and counter nostalgia so it could be it's own show even though it is not-trek.

I don't really understand what the deal people have with McFarlane but the guy is crazy talented and he knows he is doing. Orville could have been a crap ego vanity project where he plays space Captain on someone else's dime but he didn't. He made a high quality show seasoned with his take on humour which brings to life what could have been a very dry show.

It could have gone very, very, very wrong judging by STD, JJ movies and the "Best" independent/fan movies.

It most episodes he isn't the focus at all with some episodes he gets absurdly little screen time. He really does play Captain where he directs people to solve the problem and you follow that character instead to develop them. They get to be clever, badass, centre of attention. There is no designated main character.

He isn't Picard or Sisko, or Kirk, or Archer, as tempting as it is to play one of them he plays his own captain. He is possibly playing "Himself" but shifting the context of his leadership from running shows and bringing talents together to make something as a captain instead.

IMO, the 1st 2 episodes of The Orville are absolute trash. However, it definitely turns around starting with Episode 3 & I like it overall. However, I've found the show pretty inconsistent so far. It will have an excellent episode & then follow it up with several mediocre ones (like the Doc & Kids going on a trip or the Alien causing everyone to become infatuated with each other).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 03, 2017, 11:19:03 PM
What was the problem with the first 2 episodes? For me it hit the ground running and has continued upwards since.

Sex Alien episode is a bit **** and felt forced. It had a couple crazy scenes that are good but it doesn't quite make up for Rob Lowe. Then there are the "Implications".

The Doctor episode can be a hit or miss depending on how poorly you view kids in shows. While I don't like the kids, the interactions between them and Isaac is gold.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 03, 2017, 11:31:53 PM
What was the problem with the first 2 episodes? For me it hit the ground running and has continued upwards since.

A couple things, IMO. First, the show wasn't shot particularly well in the 1st two episodes, a lot of long shots that made the sets look pretty bad. You can see an almost immediate correction in the cinematography starting with episode 2 & going into 3 with a bigger focus of close shots & angles that make the sets & costumes look better.

Also, the pilot in particular reminded me way too much of Encounter at Farpoint (which is also terrible) in that the dialogue is so incredibly forced. There's a lot of characters stiffly walking up & shouting "THIS IS MY ONE CHARACTER TRAIT & ROLE!"). It's a pilot, so you have to cut it a bit of slack, but I just don't feel like the characters started having remotely natural dialogue until episode 3. I think it also helped a LOT that the show moved past the " OH, it's so wacky! The Captain & XO are divorced" angle as quickly as possible.

And speaking of the writing, I don't like Seth McFarland's comedy writing. It's a lot of sexual references & body humor, and it just doesn't click w/ me. I've already mentioned that I don't care for really dated 20th century pop culture references in this show, either. I feel like the crudity & referential humor were WAY deemphasized starting with Ep. 3. It feels like someone reined  McFarland in a LOT, & the show's better for it. You still have humor in places, but it's more natural & flows better (such as the Practical Joke pranking or the scene where they kept feeding crazy crap to the 3rd in command). The show maintained its tone of being more off-beat, but also better embraced the speculative fiction & philosophizing I came for.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 04, 2017, 12:42:47 AM
McFarland brought on a lot of behind the scenes talent to hand off to. He "Reined" himself in as planned. He could have made it a vanity project about himself but he didn't.

I must have seen a different show than you did as pilots go, you can't do much better. You have to establish a universe and the divorce was the perfect jumping off point as you get that instant emotional shock to form a connection good or bad. Jokes are made but I never saw the relationship between them as "wacky" as there is some pretty serious undertones which are still being played out.

When you are introducing that many characters you're not going to get that depth. Look at the movie Avengers, pretend you know nothing about comics or previous movies. You see it? That "I do this one thing!" is strong and it had 2 hours to play with. X-men movies are even worse as the characters are their mutant power.

1 45 minute episode to establish is amazing. Right from the second episode they are already exploring other traits and breaking their allotted role to develop them.

I didn't go into this expecting TNG which wouldn't work today, I was expecting not-Trek Seth flavoured and that was exactly what I got.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 04, 2017, 05:51:28 AM
I liked both the Vacation and the Blue love episode. I like that not every episode is going to have the same tone. There is variety. When I used to watch ds9 years ago, I liked that sometimes you get a Ferengi episode. The tone changes,  but there is some nice character/mythos exploration.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 07, 2017, 12:23:53 AM
The problem I had with Cupids Dagger is the situation was just too contrived and really, really messed up in the wrong way. You basically have a species of space aliens who are happy go lucky date rapists(As far was we know) who only walked got to away because the heroes weaponized his pheromones for the greater good despite him causing the problem in the first place.

It certainly wasn't about not having enough variety or tonal changes. There is all sorts of unexplored ground created and the conclusion isn't good.

It's much weaker version of the STD Mudd episode where he commits Treason, multi-timeline murder of everyone, piracy, breaking computer security on a military network, espionage, hostage taking, jay walking is in there somewhere. He gets to walk away with his hot rich girlfriend after being forgiven of the con job he pulled on her. Not only that Mudd tries to justify that he hasn't murdered anybody which while "technically true" doesn't cover his other crimes. He doesn't even get a trespass notice to stay out of Federation space.

However with the amount of trust and enjoyment I have with the show I expect this issue to get dealt with latter or I am willing to give it a pass for having one (potentially) bad episode out of a season of 24(?) which is a 5% strike out rate which is very good for a show that isn't Breaking Bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 08, 2017, 01:56:01 PM
GOTHAM Spoiler Joker is BACK!!!
looks like things could get fun again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 11, 2017, 12:08:57 AM
Walking Dead S8E8

Not sure how I would rate it... they're following really close to the comic, but also diverging from it again in a few pretty massive ways. Spoilers - Carl got bit by a walker and is about to die, Eugene is still with the savior's, Ezekiel has been taken by the saviors, the Oceanside people are back (never existed in the comics). Things are definitely about to get pretty different...in February.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: lolmonade on December 11, 2017, 01:34:55 PM
Anyone watch American Vandal?  It's a mock documentary around a fictional school where the premise is that a screwball student gets framed for parking lot vandalism of a male anatomy nature.  It's a ridiculous juvenile story and set of characters, but it's balanced really well by how straight they play the Documentary angle of it all.


Episodes are about 35 minutes, and 8 total this season.  I highly recommend if you want a laugh.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 12, 2017, 07:09:06 PM
Silicon Valley 8/10. Really entertaining show, though annoying because obviously these people are cursed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 16, 2017, 08:54:58 PM
Walking Dead S8E8

Not sure how I would rate it... they're following really close to the comic, but also diverging from it again in a few pretty massive ways. Spoilers - Carl got bit by a walker and is about to die, Eugene is still with the savior's, Ezekiel has been taken by the saviors, the Oceanside people are back (never existed in the comics). Things are definitely about to get pretty different...in February.


I'm not keeping up this season until it hits streaming services, but I have a playful theory that will probably not pan out. There was a fan theory that Rick and Carl are immune to the virus somehow, so this could be an elaborate Game of Thrones-esque red herring to reveal that he was just suffering from an infection and will recover.


Also interestingly, there is a fan petition rolling around to fire the show runner and bring back Carl. I'm inclined to agree this was a poor move, as the show really needed him to wrap up the series and they should frankly be looking to finish things up in a year or two, with how the show has been struggling recently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on December 16, 2017, 09:37:15 PM
Yeah that's not gonna happen. Plus the fans typically hated Carl anyway.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 18, 2017, 02:21:59 AM
13 Reasons Why (Netflix)

Show about a girl who committed suicide and leaves 13 reasons why she did it.
I started watching this on a whim... and 2 days later, I finished it.
High School based drama, but with a very real message, and an interesting way of playing it all out.
I don't want to say too much about it, but i engaged enough to run through it quickly, so i would definitely recommend it.

There are *show spoilers*scenes of light nudity, mild portrayals of rape, and a graphic suicide scene so be fair warned. most of that comes towards the end.

I feel that the message in the show is a bit mixed, but in the end, the point became clear... or maybe that was because of the "aftershow show" that started playing... either way, it was a good watch, well worth the time if you ask me.

Edit: Damn, this show really did get the message thru to me. Just this morning, someone reached out to me in a situation of desperation where they are making decisions that could ruin/change/influence the rest of their life....
I've already tried to offer what support I could (Not financial... It's a complicated situation) and everything is telling me to steer clear...but it's the holidays, and I feel bad. I feel like I could be one person to maybe get thru to her, but then again, she gotta do what she gotta do.

So conflicted.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 03, 2018, 11:06:00 PM
So, Happy.

Ex Cop turned Hitman for hire.  Estranged Daughter gets kidnapped, sends her imaginary friend, a purple flying unicorn thing voiced by Parton Oswalt, to find her hero father to save her.

Caught the second episode on a whim, not knowing anything about it.  Started recording it.  Finally caught the first episode tonight, as they had a mini-marathon (SiFi).  There's only four episodes so far.  I am enjoying this.  It's fun.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 04, 2018, 02:59:50 AM
So, Happy.

Ex Cop turned Hitman for hire.  Estranged Daughter gets kidnapped, sends her imaginary friend, a purple flying unicorn thing voiced by Parton Oswalt, to find her hero father to save her.

Caught the second episode on a whim, not knowing anything about it.  Started recording it.  Finally caught the first episode tonight, as they had a mini-marathon (SiFi).  There's only four episodes so far.  I am enjoying this.  It's fun.

I swear I made a post about this on here somewhere.... Happy!
starring that other cop from L&O SVU that quit the show like 10 years ago
Ex Hero Cop turned alcoholic drug addict vigilante for hire being bothered by his kidnapped daughters (that he didn't know he had?) imaginary friend who's just trying to get him to come find her.

Highly entertaining, and the 4th episode is where things started to get weird? LOL
this is definitely on my watch list for the rest of the 1st season.

Totally came across it on accident... and my daughter somehow knew exactly what this show was.
p.s. It is not for kids...

pre-post edit: found my post about it
https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29034.msg930829#msg930829
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 05, 2018, 04:02:51 AM
LA to Vegas. It's Cheers on a plane.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 05, 2018, 09:47:48 AM
The Gifted has been renewed for season 2. I called it a competent series, and i stand by that. It does what it does decently but it doesnt really stand out.

My lasting criticism is that it is a huge waste of Amy Acker's talents. She's barely even breaking a sweat in this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 05, 2018, 12:28:17 PM
The Gifted has been renewed for season 2. I called it a competent series, and i stand by that. It does what it does decently but it doesnt really stand out.

My lasting criticism is that it is a huge waste of Amy Acker's talents. She's barely even breaking a sweat in this.

I'm behind on this show, but just saw the ep where they mentioned The Hellfire Club.
wasn't that another show planned by Fox? Are they making a X-Men TVU on Fox?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on January 05, 2018, 07:06:18 PM
X-Files is back. First episode of season 11 was a little weak, but I've never been as big on the Chris Carter Mythos episodes. Looking forward to the next episode, where one of the Lone Gunmen communicates somehow. Ghost? Alternate Dimension? Faked death?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 05, 2018, 08:53:37 PM
The Gifted has been renewed for season 2. I called it a competent series, and i stand by that. It does what it does decently but it doesnt really stand out.

My lasting criticism is that it is a huge waste of Amy Acker's talents. She's barely even breaking a sweat in this.

I'm behind on this show, but just saw the ep where they mentioned The Hellfire Club.
wasn't that another show planned by Fox? Are they making a X-Men TVU on Fox?

That other show isn't proceeding, as far as i know.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 10, 2018, 12:49:52 AM
I finished The Runaways season 1.... not really sure what to think about it.
I didn't love it, but I didn't hate it. I know they deviated from the comics, but I've never read them, and I'm kinda interested to see where they go next since the parents aren't really the evil ones... even if the kids don't seem to know that. The Kids are gonna be trying to come back to take out the parents? while the parents try to take out Jonah? and I have no idea what they were doing the entire time either. So I'm interested in seeing what all of this was even about.

It also looks like Jonah is going to need another sacrifice to heal himself again. Don't think he was planning on using his powers like he did. I also think that opening fight was Jonah kinda teaching Caroline how to use her powers through demonstration, before ultimately just overpowering her and taking her into custody. But I don't understand how it was part of his plan for the kids to come rescue her and them all to get away.... or was the message from "Unknown" - Mission Accomplished - was about something else?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 11, 2018, 09:17:34 PM
The Rapidly Increasing Decline of the United States of America - 0/10
It's not just on TV, it's also on cable news channels and twitter, etc. It's a real shithole though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on January 14, 2018, 06:17:21 PM
Caught up to the most recent episode of The Orville and...*sigh*...really? You even had your black helmsman promoted to Chief Engineer, Seth McFarlane? -_-

There's homage, and then there's just outright plagiarism.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 15, 2018, 06:14:19 PM
Caught up to the most recent episode of The Orville and...*sigh*...really? You even had your black helmsman promoted to Chief Engineer, Seth McFarlane? -_-

There's homage, and then there's just outright plagiarism.

How is the skin colour of a person and job turn into plagiarism?

You missed the entire story about how and why he got promoted. He went through some serious character development to get there.

Geordi got promoted because the show runners needed a Chief engineer and his promotion was off screen. It was such a minor change I had to look it up as I remember him always as an engineer. No one ever talked about his sudden promotion. One of the most pivotal event on the Enterprise and his life is a massive hole.

They couldn't be more different from each other as people.

The Orville has always been about paying homage to Trek and works to subvert your expectations.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 15, 2018, 09:13:44 PM
I powered through Discovery Channel's Manhunt:Unabomber minseries.

I know it's a (very) fictionalized tale of the events, but I think they did a pretty good job with it.  It's a shame there's so much surrounding the true life events that we'll never know...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 23, 2018, 06:01:15 PM
Did anybody catch Black Lightning last week? (ep2 comes on tonight)

They dove right in on the #BLM/Black Inequality issues, set the tone for the character and show real quick. LOL
So far, so good though. I'm looking forward to ep2. I'm wondering how long it takes before he shows up in the next Arrowverse crossover though, or atleast has a cameo from one of the other shows happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 23, 2018, 08:13:41 PM
So far in season 5 of Agents of Shield...

Until episode 5 it felt like filler. Sure they had to world build the new location and events but it felt so damn slow stretching out material. They tried to maintain the mystery for too long and the pay off just didn't have the impact because it meandered so much.

It has finally done something of importance and episode 5 as a whole is badass.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 26, 2018, 03:53:30 AM
Black Lightning - Netflix UK is airing it here one week behind so i've just seen the pilot. I really like this series. It didn't mess about, established that he already has his powers and got on with it. I also love how unashamedly black the show is (although the rap is horrible, please cut that out).

The police scene was particularly tense. I've had similar experiences here on foot while my brother has had it on his motorbike.

People have questioned how to merge the show into the Arrowverse - the killer question is how will the Arrowverse merge with this? The AV Club alluded to this in their Supergirl's review in that how Supergirl is all about feminism, it's largely all about white women. The other shows will need a drastic shift in trying to balance things out for the future.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2018, 01:23:32 AM
I agree with you on Black Lightning. Shamelessly and UnApologetically Black.
jumped right into Minority issues and didn't look back to see who was lookin.

Ep2 was good too. I think this will be the CW show I ride out for the rest of the season besides I guess Supergirl, but only because I've been watching it to go to sleep, and accidentally finishing the episodes, so I'm only back like 2 episodes now.
(I haven't started Arrow, or The Flash, and I'm already behind all of last season of LoT).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2018, 02:36:06 AM
Happy! - Guiltiest pleasureful helping of WTF am i watching that I think I've had in the last few years.

This show is just silly, absurd, twisted, disgusting, funny, filthy, stupid, a lil badass, but kind of amazing for somehow pulling it all off at the same time.

I'm not sure if I can recommend it, because there's a 90% chance you'd look back at me with a WTF is wrong with you look..... and that's fine. But I feel like if you weren't in that 10% you missed some uniquely entertaining television. And on Syfy at that...
I'm not even gonna try to describe the show, or anything that goes on during it, or what any of it means, how it's even possible, or where they are going with it all... just dive in, because honestly, I don't know if I even could, certainly not in a way that will do it justice. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 01, 2018, 05:04:25 AM
Happy! was an amazing ride of fun.

I will absolutely recommend it.  Not ashamed. :)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: King of Twitch on February 02, 2018, 11:08:19 PM
Top Gear's true successor "The Grand Tour" (Amazon Prime) trite/10. The play-acting, the premise of every skit, even the races are poorly scripted and edited. Ugh, it's on Half in the Bag level of laaaziness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 04, 2018, 01:08:14 AM
Anyone else watch The Good Place?  I'm really enjoying it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 05, 2018, 04:19:09 AM
Anyone else watch The Good Place?  I'm really enjoying it.

Actually, yes. I just watched the first season this week and will probably watch the second season within a week or so also.

I've been interested in this show from the beginning since Michael Schur was behind it and Parks and Recreation is one of my all-time favorite shows and he's responsible for a lot of that. As well, his work on the early years of The Office is also well done. I've continued watching Brooklyn Nine Nine and am a little behind in the current 5th season but slowly catching up however BNN has never won me over like P&R or The Office. It can have some really funny moments and yet it just never hooks me into wanting to watch it regularly like those past programs. I have to actively remind myself and sort of force myself to keep watching it. That said, even if BNN has been a bit of a lesser product compared to P&R and The Office, I've always been interested in seeing The Good Place and I kept seeing it get highly reviewed by critics doing Best in the Year of TV lists the last couple years or Best Shows on TV right now and that kind of thing.

Thus, Monday or Tuesday (I forget which) I finally started watching it and saw all 13 episodes over three days. From the first season, I'd say The Good Place sits between P&R and BNN. It definitely has a stronger beginning compared to P&R and has a lot more of the sunnier disposition that Parks has with the hook of the main character Eleanor trying to be a better person. Unlike BNN which can sometimes feel a bit clichéd in its storylines or set-ups, The Good Place has a more unique setting with a lot more potential to surprise and keep things interesting which is something it does throughout the first season with a lot of great last minute ending surprises / cliffhangers that make you want to see the next episode right away. I also like how the show is able to discuss different philosophies and ideas on morality but able to keep it light and comedic which isn't something you can find in most other shows.

Although P&R had some serial story over its run like filling in the pit, Leslie's election or various character romances, it was able to still balance it well with some standalone episodes and a lot of humour. BNN, on the other hand, has never really succeeded or tried too much with serial storytelling or having long arcs for characters mainly keeping things pretty self-contained per episode which is probably another reason why it's been harder to keep my interest in it even if it may have a lot of humour in an episode. The Good Place, on the other hand, really feels like P&R on serial telling steroids. It's got a lot of forward momentum as it keeps unfolding new developments which lead to another development and so on. Although episodes have their own title, on-air the show just calls them Chapter 3 or Chapter 8 depending on the episode which I think is fitting because it does feel more like a long unfolding story than a collection of humours stories like other comedy series.

However, I do think this results in a show that is pleasant but not necessarily laugh out loud funny and that the humour has been a bit muted compared to The Office, P&R and BNN. Those shows have all had episodes that I was laughing throughout and some killer jokes. I haven't really felt that way about the comedic moments from The Good Place yet although the leader of The Bad Place who stops by for a couple episodes was probably the closest to providing a lot of great and consistent jokes. Trying to think of standout comedy moments, I'm also reminded of a bit with a lie detector which is probably the funniest a lie detector has been since Moe on The Simpsons and they were even able to switch and get a bit of drama from it so there's a lot of cleverness this show can tap into already even though its early in its development. The focus on story first is probably my biggest knock on The Good Place in that I wish it had a better gelling of comedy and story yet the story and events unfolding have been so engaging that I've enjoyed it all so far. However, I have repeat watched a lot of The Office and P&R twice over because of the humour and jokes which still hold up and make me laugh and not so much for the serial storylines so the focus on forward plot momentum over humour makes me wonder how well the show may stand up to repeated viewing.

The only other gripe might be that I do find the cast a little bit imbalanced. There's a couple characters that are great and some that are so-so. I can't think of anything really funny relating to Tahani off the top of my head and Janet I find is a bit of mixed bag with some funny bits and some annoying / lame bits. Chidi is more a straight man but he's got some great reactions which is necessary for that kind of role and the writers have found a couple moments to create a bit of a laugh around him. Hopefully, they can round his character out a bit more like Ben Wyatt on P&R to give him more of his own funny quirks.

One other thing that I find interesting about this show is the flashbacks in the character's lives. Sometimes they can be pretty funny like Chidi trying to choose players for a soccer team or Jason Mendoza's life in Florida, sometimes they can be a bit dramatic and sometimes they just show Eleanor being horrible in a way that isn't really funny or dramatic and is the one part of the show I hope they can tweak a bit and fix up. That said, the flashbacks sort of offer the prospect of a second show within a show if they wanted to do more of a set-up between these characters past and present lives which isn't something you see a lot of in a comedy show. Again, it shows a lot of material this show has the potential to work with.

To sum up, I do highly recommend the show. Like UncleBob, I've really enjoyed the first season and will probably burn through the second season just as fast if it keeps up the story momentum it's currently on. I totally get the praise it has been receiving but my only warning is don't go into it expecting the first 4 seasons of The Office or the First 8 seasons of The Simpsons which had episodes packed filled with all manner of great gags and jokes. The show has more of a pleasant tone that will keep you happily satisfied as it moves from one seeming disaster to the next with a bit of humour. It's good. Compared to a lot of other shows, and comedies particularly, it's very good but it's not yet great. Now bring on Season 2 and let's see if it can reach that next level.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 05, 2018, 04:43:40 AM
The Good Place is something I've been meaning to watch but haven't gotten around to yet. I'm a big fan of Parks & Rec as well, and I'll give anything with Ted Danson a shot. I just have a huge backlog of things I want to watch in addition to the one of things I want to play, and I'm not even fully caught up on things I already know I like, so that always gets pushed back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 05, 2018, 06:55:54 AM
What do you want to watch? What's the backlog? Maybe I can help you sort out what's worth it vs what ain't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 05, 2018, 11:03:49 PM
Most of the backlog is drama shows like Mad Men, The Shield, and a whole bunch of HBO stuff, but there's some comedy as well. The big one's probably The Office, which I've never gotten into despite all the acclaim and liking all of NBC's other big comedies from that era. Older stuff includes things like MASH and Scrubs, while in terms of current shows I want to give Brooklyn Nine-Nine a shot and finish getting caught up with Veep.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 06, 2018, 04:03:41 AM
Man, you've got me writing a huge post now on some of these shows and I need sleep so I'm saving my work and posting the rest tomorrow. For now, I'm just going to leave this here:

Out of the stuff you've listed, here's my ranking:

Mad Men
MASH
The Office
Brooklyn Nine Nine
Scrubs
The Shield
Veep

But to be honest, I haven't seen Scrubs or The Shield. That's just where my interest level on them lies.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 10, 2018, 06:00:00 PM
Arrow: or my preferred title How to waste the talents of Michael Emerson - aside from Legends, the whole Arrowverse is starting to frustrate me in differing ways.

Arrow has had great actors and spoiled them for no reason - Tobias Church really grabbed the screen with his personality and the actor really went for it, but only had a 4 episode arc and was killed off. Lost went so far as to rewrite its episodes to keep Emerson. While in POI he took a physically crippled man and gave Finch so much heart while spending a big chunk of time acting to a screen. Meanwhile, Arrow suffers by being far too rigid to its structure meaning we lose good actors because the plot says so rather than letting the quality of the actors dictate what happens more.

The Flash should just be renamed to Damn It Barry. Supergirl has a great refugee and feminism angle but keeps stalling it for relationship drama.

Legends skips all of these issues by going more and more for lunacy - and now we have Beebo for it.

If Black Lightning was to ever become part of the Arrowverse, i would really hope that the crossover consists of Jefferson and his kids berating Oliver for white privilege while Diggle and Rene just sit quietly knowing its true.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 10, 2018, 06:52:09 PM
If Black Lightning was to ever become part of the Arrowverse, i would really hope that the crossover consists of Jefferson and his kids berating Oliver for white privilege while Diggle and Rene just sit quietly knowing its true.

I haven't watched any of this season of Arrow or The Flash (or the last 2 seasons of Legends)
but Black Lightning making the cameo you suggest, while also making Oliver feel helpless to stop him would be some must see TV for me. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 12, 2018, 03:46:16 AM
Star Trek: Discovery

The sixth Star Trek series wrapped up its first season tonight, and I feel very comfortable saying it was the best first season of any Star Trek. Granted, part of that is the fact that the Berman-era Trek series all started slow, with The Next Generation in particular being downright awful in its first year, but Discovery came together very well in the end.

oohhboy has been very vocal in his criticisms of the show in this thread, and while I didn't agree with a lot of what he said, I will concede that the first nine episodes, before the midseason break, had their ups and downs. I thought it finished very strong after the break, however. I was initially skeptical about the decision to focus as much as they did on the Mirror Universe, but it turned out to be the best use of that in any Star Trek so far. It was presented in a way that fit the tone of the show without being overly campy, and I came out of it thinking they handled it extremely well. The revelation that (MAJOR SPOILER)the Captain Lorca we knew was the Mirror Universe version of him the whole time was a twist that made perfect sense in hindsight and explained a lot of things, and even having had it spoiled for me ahead of time it was a fantastic reveal.

The finale was a bit anticlimactic in certain areas, but it did a good job of completing the season arc and freed them up for all kinds of possibilities going forward. I'm very much looking forward to the next season, whenever that may come.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 12, 2018, 04:19:07 PM
My biggest disappointment is how the show constantly panders to TOS over and over, while not even making nods to what we know happens later. Threatening to blow up Qonos makes no sense thematically given the events of TNG and DS9. But what if we happened to bump into Curzon Dax while at the market? That fills in the blanks to Dax's earlier adventures. But it skipped that button

More worryingly the spore drive still exists and they even terraformed an entire planet to make more spores. At some point the technology will need to be killed off because as it stands, Voyager has been made completely moot
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Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 12, 2018, 08:16:41 PM
It makes sense that they'd tie it in to the original series the most since it's taking place just ten years before that. As we saw in the last episode, the Enterprise is out there during this time under the command of Christopher Pike. There have also been several references to Star Trek: Enterprise along the way. I'd love to see more stuff involving the later shows, and I agree that Curzon Dax would be a really cool way to do it if they want to cover some of the diplomatic stuff with the Klingons after the war, but it's probably not as easy to do as tying it to TOS. As for the spore drive, there are tons of ways to explain that away in the future, with them seemingly laying the groundwork for it at the end of the finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 15, 2018, 11:04:37 PM
I've been watching through Power Rangers RPM recently and I'm 11 episodes in. There are generally two types of Power Rangers seasons. You have more serious and dramatic seasons like Time Force and you have your more lighthearted, silly seasons like the original Mighty Morphin season. RPM however has somehow managed to take on both sides of the spectrum without running into the tone issues you'd expect if I told you that there's a season of power rangers set in a post apocalyptic world and there's an episode where one of the characters points out that for whatever reason there's often a giant explosion that goes off for no apparent reason immediately after they morph and that becomes a running gag for that episode.

Like the thing is that RPM should be, by all means, an absolute trainwreck but somehow it's turned out pretty well so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2018, 01:28:23 AM
RPM is my favorite Power Rangers season.  It was really well put together, considering all the behind the scenes issues it had.

Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2018, 03:09:25 AM
Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.

Does Disney have Power Rangers?
Because that might be the answer to your question... ;)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 16, 2018, 04:00:26 AM
I'll keep asking until i'm blue in the face. Nintendo needs to go to Marvel Studios and ask them for help on how to spin out Metroid into a MetroidCU.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on February 16, 2018, 10:10:39 AM
Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.

Does Disney have Power Rangers?
Because that might be the answer to your question... ;)

RPM was done while the franchise was owned by Disney.  I stopped watching during the SPD season.  But the Super Megaforce season looked really fun.  I might stream it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 16, 2018, 10:56:22 AM
I'll keep asking until i'm blue in the face. Nintendo needs to go to Marvel Studios and ask them for help on how to spin out Metroid into a MetroidCU.

Not to speculate..., but maybe someone heard you....
http://comicbook.com/powerrangers/amp/2018/02/15/saban-brands-power-rangers-cuts-ties-bandai/?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 16, 2018, 12:46:17 PM
Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.

Does Disney have Power Rangers?
Because that might be the answer to your question... ;)

RPM was done while the franchise was owned by Disney.  I stopped watching during the SPD season.  But the Super Megaforce season looked really fun.  I might stream it.
Protip: Don't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 16, 2018, 12:57:04 PM
RPM is my favorite Power Rangers season.  It was really well put together, considering all the behind the scenes issues it had.

Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.

According to Linkara, Disney never really knew what to do with Power Rangers. They bought it to run in syndication, but the production team managed to cut costs enough to keep it in production. Disney didn't like having a physically violent kids show, so they started taking the martial arts, front explosions, etc. out of the show. They even started adding goofy sound effects to the guns. At one point, they wanted to cut costs even further & just dub the Sentai, but they were talked out of it.

By the time RPM rolled around, Disney was done so they let the showrunners do whatever they wanted since it was supposed to be the final season.

Then Neo Saban rolled around & made the show worse with Samurai & Megaforce.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on February 16, 2018, 04:06:11 PM
Wait, Megaforce wasn't good?! :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2018, 05:11:22 PM
Wait, Megaforce wasn't good?! :(

Super/Megaforce is probably the worst season ever.  All the missed potential :(
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2018, 05:19:54 PM
Seeing what Disney has done with Marvel and Star Wars just really makes me question what went wrong with Power Rangers.

Does Disney have Power Rangers?
Because that might be the answer to your question... ;)

This was kinda answered above, but - basically, Disney bought Power Rangers (along with some/all) of Saban's back catalogue.  They had some "pretty good for Power Rangers" seasons and some mediocre seasons (RPM being the biggest exception... If you're even a casual PR fan, go watch this season.  As mentioned above, Disney said '**** it, do whatever' and we got a pretty amazing series out of it).  Then, Disney just gave up and sold everything (Power Rangers) back to Saban.

They had an amazingly popular, long running series with a huge built-in fan base, a continuity full of potential to explore, a large pool of previous actors who seem to love their time on the series (and several who don't...) and would come back in a heart beat... But, instead, we got MMPR Flashback (ugh).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 16, 2018, 06:30:49 PM
Wait, Megaforce wasn't good?! :(

Allow me to direct you to Linkara's extensive 5-part History of Power Rangers Retrospective on Super Megaforce.


Incidentally, he has videos like this for all the Power Rangers seasons up through Super Dinocharge.

Also, calling Super Megaforce the "worst" season of Power Rangers is a tall order considering the existence of Operation Overdrive.

A few years back, I purchased the big box sets of all the Power Rangers seasons up through RPM. Been meaning to watch them, but they're in storage right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 16, 2018, 06:44:55 PM
The thing that gets to me about the Neo Saban seasons is that it's very clear that nobody gives a **** about hiring half decent actors in for the main cast. Like the bar is so low now. It's ridiculous.

Wait, Megaforce wasn't good?! :(
There's a simple explanation for that. :smug:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 16, 2018, 06:49:46 PM
Wait, Megaforce wasn't good?! :(
There's a simple explanation for that. :smug:

But it's FAR too complex for you to understand. :P:
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 16, 2018, 07:01:21 PM
I will say, now that I've seen Time Force every other season leaves a giant Quantasaurous Rex shaped hole in my heart.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 16, 2018, 11:59:48 PM
There's a simple explanation for that. :smug:

A lot of folks give them crap for that line, but I kinda enjoyed it.  It was something that would have, at best, been give some kind of half-assed explanation that just would have felt empty and meaningless anyway.  At least we got a laugh out of it this way.

Also, calling Super Megaforce the "worst" season of Power Rangers is a tall order considering the existence of Operation Overdrive.

OO is probably worst on all technical merits, but Super/Megaforce just rubs me the wrong way because of how much potential the series could have had with cameos, old costumes, various plot points.  They left out so much, but, hey, we got New Powers that are New.

[youtube]https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ-b67BPKPg[/youtube]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 17, 2018, 01:36:58 AM
Operation Overdrive does have the android twist at least.

Also we don't talk about what megaforce did to my Q-rex.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 17, 2018, 02:13:36 AM
Better than what they did to Cornith.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on February 18, 2018, 10:16:47 PM
Here's something unclebob will appreciate at about three minutes in.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 19, 2018, 03:24:35 AM
Terrible editing aside (I mean, it's fan made, what should I expect?) - yes.  It was... morphinominal.

Although, watching that brought back flashbacks of me yelling "Why are they pirates?!?".  I mean, I know *why* they're pirates... but there's never any attempt at even in-universe recognizition that they're pirates.  At least we got the whole joke with black/green, letting us viewers know that the Rangers thought that was odd.  But they just didn't seem to care about the fact they were Pirates.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 20, 2018, 04:55:33 PM
Legends was fantastic this week. I did say in an earlier post that all the shows in the Arrowverse have been annoying me in some way, i should say that excludes Legends. By just leaning into the lunacy of its premise of course Mick is trying to write a scifi romance novel and Nate/Amaya are actively using the flasher to forget what they did.... it's simply a better show for it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 25, 2018, 07:29:31 PM
Marathoned The second half of the first season of Tick on Amazon last night. I wasn't too hot on the pilot when I first saw it, but overall the season turned out to be great.  The dialog was fantastic, but with Ben Edlund and David Fury in the writing team, I expect no less. The best character is Overkill.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 25, 2018, 08:51:37 PM
Oh, that's right, I remember seeing an add for the The Tick on Amazon yesterday... that's what I should have been watching today.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on March 01, 2018, 03:38:01 PM
Glad The Tick part 2 finally came out. I was a little irked at how they staggered the release of the season. I'm not so sure if generated the hype or build up they were hoping for.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 04, 2018, 09:39:58 PM
Uugh, late to the party, the notification system here is questionable.

STD: Infinite Picard face palm out of zero Riker beard. People think this is story telling? Even if you ignore Trek canon how is that acceptable? Kids playing with action figures make up better more cohesive stories. Someone needs to beam Michaels into a bulkhead, send Tilly too. The show in no way earn what that ending implied for the writers, and the Enterprise? Just insulting.

Legends: Who needs Star Trek when we have Legends? It's not at all Trek but at a show that is self respecting and exists in such a large "Universe" with time travel it keeps itself together very well. Depending on how you see it they do cheat a little by keeping the plot slow but they compensate with the characters as noted by Plugabugz.

Supergirl: This is still a show about Kara right? Is there another new show being made because it sure as hell looks like they are trying very had to spin off a "Heroes in a vehicle" show that unlike Legends is going to be played completely straight. If they are that show is going to suck. Wait, was I suppose to talk about Supergirl?

AoS: They have lost their way this season. They have gone for the mystery box option and they are suffering. It meanders, I am not sure why Culson is there, they are tossing layers and layers of complexity it doesn't need. It moves from disconnected plot point to plot point. It's the opposite of last season where it was character driven.

I swear they must have reused the sets from Inhumans or something. They stand out hard at how cheap they look even though someone spent money on it.

There has been some bright spots like Jeffrey Combs but not the character he played and Enok as well as Hunter but the rest are something of a wreak. The latest episode had a very amusing "We are getting too old for this ****" feel to it.

I haven't tried Zima yet, any good?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 05, 2018, 12:55:44 AM
If Berlanti is spinning off yet another show, he is gonna need his own network soon...

as far as AoS, I hear the payoff is in the second half. Some kind of spoiler is floating around and i refuse to spoil myself.

and Zima... hmmmm.... I'm not sure they actually still make and sell that.... It's basically a winecooler or a Mike's Hard Lemonade, long before those existed. It's not bad, but it's nothing I would waste my time drinking. lol
If I remember correctly, it's like if Sprite had a wine cooler.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on March 05, 2018, 01:13:02 AM
oohhBoy, have you ever watched Red Letter Media's reviews of STD?

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 05, 2018, 01:37:43 AM
I know the payoff for AoS is there. This isn't a JJ show or something that prescribes to it like Nu-Trek including STD but the journey hasn't been very good.

Given Zima is clearly product placement like the iMacs, it would be strange for it to be a discontinued present day product.

Yeah, I totally watch RLM. They arrived at the conclusion that it's not trek, Mike very grudgingly. Rich nailed it with it is a generic space adventure thing and ATST ATST ATAT. They didn't touch the story telling much but it's Plinnket level material bad. Mike was easier on it but he was really struggling with his cognitive dissonance. He wants more Trek and it even has the name but he knows it isn't trek. Its why he said he has trouble watching the Orville it is so Trek it's making his head burst.

Orville pokes alot of fun at trek. One of the things STD/Michaels is guilty of on multiple accounts including the ending is to give some speech or talk and have it convince whoever not to do bad thing. He outright say it never works he then inverts that by having it work but not trying to convince them not to kill but waste time arguing about their relationship in front of people who are trying to kill them, trying to get them to agree to their side of the irrelevant argument. It was a ploy to buy time of course but he took the time to setup chekhov's gun the previous episode iirc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 05, 2018, 01:50:31 AM
I'll tell you what Star Trek Discovery is. I realized during the Mirror Universe portion.

It's "Heroes" but with the Star Trek property mixed in. Especially the later Heroes seasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 05, 2018, 01:55:08 AM
I know the payoff for AoS is there. This isn't a JJ show or something that prescribes to it like Nu-Trek including STD but the journey hasn't been very good.

Given Zima is clearly product placement like the iMacs, it would be strange for it to be a discontinued present day product.

I'm not sold on this season of AoS so far either. So the payoff better be good.
Last season spoiled us all though. it was ON POINT from beginning to end.

and I might be mixing up my memory of flavor of Zima w/ Smirnoff Ice... but I never drink those things either. It's like a participatory alcohol beverage for people that don't drink, but want to hang out with the drinkers and pretend like their drinking too... so I may be way off on the flavor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 05, 2018, 02:04:25 AM
Holy **** fucking Heroes, good god, that collapsed on itself harder than a black hole. Some people blamed the season 2 writer strike but that season 1 ending was a 200% **** you. I genuinely felt conned for watching that show and you can't even make fun of it. Were you expecting a payoff..... nah **** you. I don't know how people could continue watching it and not only that they brought it back from the dead.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 05, 2018, 02:50:28 AM
Ha ha ha! But do you see my point? (Heck Fuller was involved with Heroes so maybe he really did try to translate some of that series into his Trek vision.)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2018, 10:32:12 AM
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On October 20, 2008, MillerCoors LLC announced that it had discontinued production of Zima in the U.S., choosing instead to focus on other "malternative" beverages.[3] Zima is still sold and marketed in Japan.[5]

In February 2017, MillerCoors announced that they are in negotiations to bring Zima back to the U.S. market.[6] On June 2, 2017, it was announced the Zima would have a limited release beginning on July 4th weekend.[7]
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 05, 2018, 11:59:34 AM
I swear they must have reused the sets from Inhumans or something. They stand out hard at how cheap they look even though someone spent money on it.

If you look carefully the Lighthouse is the same corridor and adjoining rooms as what SHIELD's base was. The isolation pod is the main room Kasius had his events in. It looks like they decided to hide the budget cuts by not building new sets and redressing all their existing ones and then keeping it on those sets as much as possible - its possibly why the Zephyr was still available, too. I suspect those cuts also affected the planned story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 05, 2018, 12:52:20 PM
Quote
On October 20, 2008, MillerCoors LLC announced that it had discontinued production of Zima in the U.S., choosing instead to focus on other "malternative" beverages.[3] Zima is still sold and marketed in Japan.[5]

In February 2017, MillerCoors announced that they are in negotiations to bring Zima back to the U.S. market.[6] On June 2, 2017, it was announced the Zima would have a limited release beginning on July 4th weekend.[7]

So we were both right. I don't remember seeing Zima on the shelf for the longest and wasn't even sure if it was still being made. Turns out it was discontinued a decade ago.
But the it would be weird to advertise a product in a show that takes place in the present, with a product that isn't actively being sold. Turns out they just brought it back last year, and felt AoS was desperate enough for advertising money to allow Zima a spot up in the show.



I swear they must have reused the sets from Inhumans or something. They stand out hard at how cheap they look even though someone spent money on it.

If you look carefully the Lighthouse is the same corridor and adjoining rooms as what SHIELD's base was. The isolation pod is the main room Kasius had his events in. It looks like they decided to hide the budget cuts by not building new sets and redressing all their existing ones and then keeping it on those sets as much as possible - its possibly why the Zephyr was still available, too. I suspect those cuts also affected the planned story.

Lets hope that S6 gets a cash infusion from the Disney Streaming Service so they can do a proper season within reasons. I didn't really notice the reuse of the sets, but I also wasn't really looking for cheapness in production values either. I've already accepted that they are doing the best they can with the little they are allowed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 05, 2018, 07:57:22 PM
I still enjoy watching AoS but I agree that this season has been weaker (still a fun show though) and it is clear the budget was slashed, I'm assuming that was why the first half was set indoors. Hopefully this second half will do a bit more (maybe they saved money from the first half and will have more to work with now?). It is sad though seeing a show like AoS suffer from budget cuts, especially after a stellar previous season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 05, 2018, 11:18:03 PM
I really enjoyed the first half of this season of AoS...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 06, 2018, 12:05:20 AM
If Person of Interest has taught me anything is that getting your budget slashed doesn't mean you can't tell a good story and two you can build an AI god without it being determined to turn everything into paper clips.

It has been a shift in what it feels is important. Right now it's playing peekaboo, everything leading up to the last 5 minutes feels like filler as it seems the surprise! reveal is all that matters. It feels like the Rick and Morty bit on inter-dimensional TV with mysteries done quick. It's extreme but that is the sentiment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fzcA3RSVTQ (Youtube embedding in the forums looks broken)

The Hunter/Fritz episode which is hands down the best this season is the opposite, we know he is going to make it but we don't know how and it's all about the journey, how the characters feel about doing what they are doing. The two hugs and complaining about the rescue is incredibly effective. They are little bits of satisfaction and it helps earn that ending, justifying the reveal from last episode. It earned what it did ever step of the way. The big reveal as to the nature of Enok was about half way in but as far as the episode is concerned it wasn't that important or the point.

I usually don't care too much about sets unless they stood out for better or worse. AoS stood out for the worse. While I didn't make to connection with the reuse of the sets which is expected in a TV show it was really off and cheap feeling something I don't expect from AoS. If I equated it to Inhuman something is really wrong. The Krell rooms might as well be empty with a day spa feel and the rest of the sets makes the older Star Trek sets look massive. The cubes in the fight arena were there because something had to be in the room and it didn't even rise to the level of utility as I am not sure the audience could see the fight.

By Zeus, last season really raised the bar.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 06, 2018, 09:41:58 AM
Person of Interest was an anomaly in the sense that you couldn't tell season 5 had a budget cut, but it still had successfully landed the show for its series finale (which very few shows manage) and used the talents of Michael Emerson and co perfectly.

I think with AOS, like Dark Matter, as soon as i saw the sets and their design i couldn't unsee it.

AOS has good actors and an interesting premise to play with but has been held back. I reckon with more money we'd have got the Zephyr out into space a lot sooner rather than in maybe a few episodes (and when it did, most of the time the camera was pointed away from the green screens).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 06, 2018, 07:39:53 PM
Back to the subject of Bryan Fuller... Quote from him at the IMDB bio:

Quote
I got into writing to become a "Star Trek" writer. I was a rabid fan. I had shelves and shelves and shelves of action figures in my bedroom that scared away more dates than I care to admit to. So it was really...if back then, you told me 'you're gonna write for "Star Trek" for twenty years,' I couldn't have imagined a happier career. But after writing for "Star Trek" for four years and bumping up against the parameters of the storytelling, which sometimes were very restrictive because there was always that magical reset button and you could never carry story arcs over the episodes because they were so heavily syndicated that it simply wasn't allowed, I began to get itchy and wanting to tell stories with a little more emotional depth, because one of the things about the "Star Trek" universe, especially "Next Generation," and "Deep Space Nine" and "Voyager" were that the characters were so much more evolved than we were that they wouldn't be terrified when they're looking at a giant Borg cube about to assimilate them. They would handle their jobs and they would behave responsibly and calmly, and I just had a hard time relating to that after a certain point.

I don't think making idiots and writing your lead to be so un-likeable only hardcore defenders don't want her dead gives a character emotional depth. For a super fan turned writer and doing some of Voyager's better/worse episodes he really doesn't get how much the system he grew to dislike saved his illogical story telling ass.

The magic reset button pushed so often in Voyager meant whatever dumb ass thing he made the crew do out of character or massive long term plot/character issues he introduced could be ignored and the good bit cherry picked. He didn't figure out the creative freedom he had as long as he could hit that button. Serialisation only exposed his flaws.

PoI is full of extremely talented people. Season 4 was a bit of a game in spotting where they stole a dollar. The big one was the "Control room" in the mental hospital. A darkened room, off the shelf projector, cheap tables, laptops and actors. I am not even sure the it even had 4 walls or ceiling. The other side of the game is seeing where they spent the money and then steal money from that too.

Season 5 looked like it had a very substantial budget increase by smartly only having half a season while still stealing dollars from the dollars they stole. It's a shame that they had to eject some plot lines, side characters and their development. Control is an excellent and complex character. Her disappearance while ironic I still wonder as to her ultimate fate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 07, 2018, 04:02:07 PM
It's interesting that he mentioned DS9 and the reset button in the same breath when that series very steadily broke away from that.

You're right about those POI points, i never noticed it at all. But given the nature of the final season it had to dump many things to manage the primary plot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 07, 2018, 06:05:18 PM
The Doctor's mobile emitter is a stroke of genius for the character that blatantly broke pretty much all the rules.

Orville looks to have taken a stab at it by giving Mercer a revolutionary gadget that by the established rules shouldn't exist. He puts it into a drawer forgetting about it or to give a report though it could have saved them a lot of trouble later.

PoI was one of the shows that ate the cake and still had it right from the start.

Voyager in the late seasons especially serialised a lot more as previous events started to carry forward like Seska, Lt Wildman, the Borg saga, Delta Flyer, Tom and Torres, Seven of Nine and the Doctor's evolution. Who knows why it didn't happen more but it certainly wasn't some hard rule that couldn't be broken since its the premise of the show. The same with how unfazed the characters were. Could have made them more stressed but didn't.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 08, 2018, 08:22:47 PM
I finally got through Iron Fist. I just put it on while on the air bike so I could hate myself even more while exercising. That was an ordeal. Jessica Jones was released today so I’m three shows behind. I wanted to watch them in order so now I can start The Defenders. I think the rest will be easier to get through.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 10, 2018, 12:14:01 PM
Agents of SHIELD 100th Episode

DAMN. This episode man.... they really pulled it off.
Daisy with the emotional breakdown about Coulson and SHIELD
Coulson with the initial breakdown for self sacrifice... and then his biggest fear. They actually tied his biggest fear to be that all the event that happened so far to be that it was all a "fever dream" and that he was still on the table attempting to be revived after the Loki Scepter incident. But how they used the events of the previous 4 season as connections to all of it was taking it to a much deeper level. "You really think your skull caught fire...? Or was it actually the burning of the electrodes connected to your brain?". They really have you going for a few minutes here because it all makes perfect fucking sense too
FitzSimmons They finally fucking did it. "I don't deserve you Jemma, and I already know I'm the luckiest man... on any planet" - The journey this unlikely couple had to finally become a couple you'd be mad if they never got to this point was extremely well done. And to know they they survive to enjoy it is all the more satisfying
Zeke The grandson connection.... I figured he was probably related to someone, not really surprised that it was the most likely couple of brown hair white people, also with a full healthy beard. But the confirmation was nice

Overall really good episode that might just break your emotional plane.
The 2nd half has already started delivering, I hope it keeps ramping up from here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 11, 2018, 09:45:06 AM
Soap Opera Illness is not a good angle. The conclusion to the problem of the episode was "Oh that's it..." which again weakened the clever things they did. Nice to see Coulson being useful again. The first half he was a bit ball and chain with his not-leadering or making plans. Some good emotional parts in there but the dialogue seems to be repeating a lot like they are padding for time.

The villains are not a thing. They get in the way because they get in the way while doing their own thing. The current people that are trying to kill them is doing it because they want to kill them, that's it with some evil for the lol.

The O'Brien must suffer vibe continues as they suffer for the sake of suffering.

They have pulled out of the nosedive for now. I really hope Zima becomes a running joke, got a couple good laughs and he really sells it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 12, 2018, 07:23:25 PM
Does anyone watch Counterpart?

Its a scifi-based but EXTREMELY loose sci-fi - the scifi is "something happened and now there are two worlds, the end" - spy thriller featuring JK Simmons in an Orphan Black-style dual role.

He is already a wildly underrated actor, but seeing him play these roles in a slow paced show like this so he really can get into it makes the pace worth it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 13, 2018, 12:14:16 AM
I'd never even heard of this show until now. Thanks for putting it on my radar though I expect it will be awhile before I get around to it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 15, 2018, 05:30:42 PM
I'd never even heard of this show until now. Thanks for putting it on my radar though I expect it will be awhile before I get around to it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3Bu2DOM66g
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 20, 2018, 06:53:20 PM
Legends had another fun dark episode this week, with Constantine and with the bonus that if the show gets renewed he'll be joining full time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 20, 2018, 07:26:20 PM
Legends had another fun dark episode this week, with Constantine and with the bonus that if the show gets renewed he'll be joining full time.

Did they bring back the guy from the Constantine LA series to play him again? Haven't kept up with the DC shows this season, and I'd love to see him become a Legends regular.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 20, 2018, 11:59:26 PM
If Constantine LA is the one NBC cut short and cancelled then yes. He's the same Constantine that showed up on Arrow in Season 4 to help Oliver fix Sara's soul when she was resurrected from the Lazarus pit at that time and they met in flashbacks on the island like nearly everyone else in his life.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 21, 2018, 02:50:42 AM
I've almost caught up with DC Arrowverse. I'm caught up on Supergirl currently. I'm three episodes behind in each of The Flash, Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow.

I talked a bit about how much I liked Arrow Season 5 and part of me still feels like getting into a lot of why I thought it was one of its best seasons but it takes a long time for me to type, edit and convey my thoughts so who knows if that will ever really happen. However, I have to admit that Legends of Tomorrow Season 2 was probably neck and neck for best show in the Arrowverse last season. Supergirl had a strong start and great momentum but then it slowed down in the middle and began to see some ups and downs before righting itself and having a pretty good finish. The Flash, despite leaning into a lot of its comic ideas and what could have been strong story hooks, just wasn't that fun or unenjoyable. It stumbled from the begining with its Flashpoint and the unwanted changes to its status quo and it never really could recover from the rough start that set the tone of the season.

However, with the current season, Legends of Tomorrow sits alone at the top. It's kept up its brand of superhero fun and is staying pretty smart by not taking itself too seriously which I think is a problem the other shows suffer from at times. That said, I do find the show faltering a little bit from the Crisis on Earth X crossover to where I'm currently at. We've got some characters entering and exiting and shuffling around and I do think it is affecting the pacing / dynamic a bit. As well, I'm not really interested or care that much about Malus. At the moment, he's a bit of a weird dud of a villain though he hasn't really had much given in detail or motivation to care about. After the terrific Legion of Doom who were as fun to watch as the heroes, Malus is a bit of a letdown right now. I also wasn't as thrilled about bringing back Darhk yet again but considering how well he worked last season, I was open to his return. Unfortunately, this seems to be more the Arrow version of Darhk and less the LoT version from last year. Part of that is because he doesn't really have anyone to play off of like last year and, like in Arrow where he had the "weakness" of his wife, his daughter seems to be playing that same role here. Nor do I get Darhk's motivation in being involved with Malus or how they are tied or what the plan is with the totems. Adding Constantine to the cast and possibly doing more magic worries me because magic never seems to work out well on superhero shows and I'm starting to fear it is going to bog down the Legends here as well but maybe my fears will be alleviated in the next few episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on March 21, 2018, 02:51:14 AM
Arrow, unfortunately, is back to its season 3/4 state of affairs. To quote my favorite word from the last episode of Season 1 of Arrow, the problem seems to be redundancies. It seems to be retreading familiar ground and it doesn't help that the writers didn't seem to do with the great cliffhanger ending it left at the end of Season 5. The smartest thing they've done this year is bring on Micheal Emerson which is the main reason I'm tuning in but after being genuinely excited to keep going forward and seeing each new episode of Season 5, Season 6 wore out that excitement pretty fast and now I almost have to push myself to watch the next episode much like I did with The Flash last year. Also, I was really hoping for more Deathstroke and am very disappointed he's just had a brief two parter which was probably the best part of Season 6 so far. The Oliver / Deathstroke pairing just works so well. And, I think the show has created an Oliver/Diggle/Green Arrow problem for itself as Diggle could practically be the Green Arrow at this point and Oliver doesn't need to be or at least could be acting in a different capacity while letting Diggle take on the mantle. But that's a lot more I could get into on this crazy show.

Having just mentioned that I had to push myself to watch the rest of The Flash Season 4, I guess I'll touch on its current season quickly. At first, I was quite surprised and intrigued by what I thought was Metron in the floating chair. Metron is one of the New Gods and I was wondering if The Flash was going to take on that part of the DCU. However, I soon learned it was Devoe and not Metron. Aside from that, The Flash seemed to be about where it was when Season 3 ended. But it did make one significant change. The writers decided to stop having Barry be so brooding and making him a bit more optimistic again has begun to have a ripple effect in improving the show. Introducing Ralph Dibny has also been a better addition even if it has been at the expense of Wally West but his character has been spinning his wheels for awhile now. The whole learning to be a hero thing with Ralph is also coming close to some "been here, done that" feelings but the writers have kept it light enough with enough comedy to still enjoy it. Harrison 2 coming back is also a better fit helping the show shake off a bit more of what ailed it in season 3 and after finally having Barry and Devoe face off, the conflict has begun to gain some stakes and motivation. When trying to decided if I wanted to see the next episode of The Flash, Supergirl or Arrow, my answer lately has been The Flash to my surprise. I wouldn't exactly say this is its best season or anything but if you liked The Flash for its first and most of its second season then it seems to be working its way back to that level in my opinion.

As for Supergirl, I'll get to it a little later. I've spent enough time on this post already.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 24, 2018, 12:24:57 PM
OMG Doctor Leopold Fritz. That ending with Gemma is icing.

This is unfortunately only the second episode this season that is legit good so far. The last episode had some good moments but it just wasn't enough.

It has been dragging out so much I have forgotten plot points from earlier in the season. General Hall is still spinning her wheels making me wonder why she is even there. Actually, a fair chunk is spinning their wheels.

Daisy isn't hacking computers, but in a surprising move Chloe seems to be acting, really selling the moment.

Coulson isn't making clever plans, Hall nails him to the wall on this. Its almost like he is getting de-constructed. Not sure if it is intentional.

Mac and Yoyo has been playing the same note without pause. It's starting to get as bad as Hawk girl from Legends who is hands down the worse part of the show.

Deak I am mixed on mostly due to me not remembering what he does before. On the other hand he has good chemistry and the actor sells how flipped out he is along with his child like wonderment.

May does nothing, she is a cameo. I know they are building things up but it feels like they could have cut a couple episodes in the editing room without missing a thing. I know they are going to stick the landing but I can wait to get there for all the wrong reasons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 24, 2018, 08:00:12 PM
General Hale HYDRA...... "Hale Hydra". Get it? Well they point it out on Twitter....
https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/977409700642918400

Deke constantly dropping hints "Grandpa"
Simmons is preggo!? and that's why she threw up at the grandson reveal?

Fitz vs Dr. Fitz.... seriously, when does Ian get nominated at the very least for an Emmy or something? They guy was acting circles around almost everyone on TV against himself for several seasons now.

But Fitz needs to get it together and get Yoyo those damn arms so that she can finally get out that bed and be useful again and MacHammer can stop moping around

Daisy getting that thing out her neck.... long ass tentacles pulled out her.... that had to feel great.
But the Dr Fitz call back from the Framework "I don't have to, but I want to" vs Fitz "I don't want to, but I have to". Daisy will be more interesting with her powers back though.

Agent McTrap..... time to throw her overboard. LOL

did I forget anyone?

Oh, Fitz and Simmons..... it's gonna be another emotional ride for these two. They never get a fucking break.

oh and dude at the very end... gave Gen Hale that Kree Suicide Steroid that Kasius took for his final fight... did that **** work on humans? Is Hale human... is that dude Kasius' Kree dad in disguise? or does he just work for him?

anyone else?
....No...?

yeah, I think that's everyone

I need to lookup the preview for next week, as I just know these last 10 episodes are gonna be good.

I also wonder if they were planning on an IW "tie-in" and if moving the date up 1 week would have messed with that at all....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 25, 2018, 12:13:18 AM
Whether they are bearing arms, mac and yoyo has been doing the same thing, they simply got a bad storyline. Mac is on the job and Fritz has bigger fish to fry.

Daisy is usually more interesting without her powers. When she got them she ended up being defined just by it, she stopped being a character. They sort of acknowledge that with the whole Quake/Daisy back and forth.

Ian really needs that award. Dude is putting out master class work for a TV show. Unlike the likes of Hopkins who can outright steal a scene by being there(WestWorld) Ian has to put in serious amounts of work. However he would only be half as good if not less without Henstridge. They have chemistry right from the start and the writers picked up on that, although you have to be a robot to miss it.

The pair redefine suffering. O'Brien must be ever so pleased he isn't the champion anymore.

The astronaut phasing in was really cool. Initially I thought that it was a serious waste of money, but it was a good play.

Coulson is just so damn sloppy with his work. He better be smiling for a good reason oppose to why Hale ripped into him for.

General Hale HYDRA...... "Hale Hydra". Get it? Well they point it out on Twitter....
https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/977409700642918400 (https://twitter.com/AgentsofSHIELD/status/977409700642918400)

uugh.

Not a fan of Hale firing the two agents out of nowhere or reason earlier. They were adorable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2018, 01:16:42 AM
Daisy is usually more interesting without her powers. When she got them she ended up being defined just by it, she stopped being a character. They sort of acknowledge that with the whole Quake/Daisy back and forth.

Ian really needs that award. Dude is putting out master class work for a TV show. Unlike the likes of Hopkins who can outright steal a scene by being there(WestWorld) Ian has to put in serious amounts of work. However he would only be half as good if not less without Henstridge. They have chemistry right from the start and the writers picked up on that, although you have to be a robot to miss it.

The pair redefine suffering. O'Brien must be ever so pleased he isn't the champion anymore.

Honestly, every Fitz and/or Simmons centric episode I can think of has been quality.
It' amazing how far the pair have come both together and individually. Fitz being my most standout choice of the 2 though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2018, 04:15:29 AM
So I started watching Teen Wolf

Don't judge... I needed to replace Creature Feature fix now that Vampire Diaries is done, The Originals seems to be done, Bitten... is done?, and Being Human is also done. Besides, I heard it was good... and it's got 6 seasons, so must be decent at the very least.

Honestly, so far, I like it. I could totally see this being part of the VDverse. Would need just a little tweaking, but not much.

But I gotta LOL out loud, seriously, out loud, everytime main dude and his homeboy be talking about some sensitive Werewolf related **** in class or right infront of everyone hella loud, like they're whispering or something, in a quiet ass class, and no body hears a damn thing until they yell.

Other than that, it's been a pretty good watch so far. I'm only on episode 6, but I'm looking forward to the binge watch that's incoming.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on March 28, 2018, 10:36:38 AM
I been watching Shameless on Netflix and the Joe McHale Show with Joe McHale, it's  not that funny but I find myself strangely drawn to it.

I also been really loving the new Letterman stuff, My Next Guest.

That Shameless though.. wow...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2018, 09:40:39 PM
Shameless is great. I'm assuming you mean the US version, I dont' know if they have both versions on Netflix (original is UK).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on March 28, 2018, 09:50:21 PM
Yeah it's the U.S. version. Loving it so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 28, 2018, 10:56:09 PM
Yeah it's the U.S. version. Loving it so far.

Every season is pretty good. Some better than others, but all of them good.
This show often reminds me of no matter how shitty things may seem sometimes, thank god it wasn't like this. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on March 29, 2018, 09:25:21 AM
I almost stopped watching after the episode where 'butterface' died. That was a little too much for me. But I took a day off and came back to it.

I am mostly into sitcoms and quirky science fiction stuff I rarely get into serious shows but this one just drew me in. Plus I am a huge William H. Macy fan so there is that too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2018, 02:43:23 PM
Scoobynatural - LMFAO

Supernatural went full cartoon and was inserted into an episode of Scooby Doo.
I haven't watched a single episode all season until this one, and it was worth jumping in for.
I don't want to spoil it, but I'll just point out a few things:
Dean has a crush on Daphne, go as far as blatantly checking out that ass, then going for the kiss.
Velma has a crush on Sam, and isn't so shy about it.
Dean has to point out some cartoon tells in the episode LOL, and generally is just enjoying himself being a cartoon and a huge fan of Scooby and the gang.

really fun episode, and definitely worth the watch even if you don't watch Supernatural.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2018, 05:49:31 PM
Gotham

Why is Gotham Joker the BEST Joker?
He seriously takes all the best parts of all the previous Jokers and now we have Gotham Joker. aka Best Joker. Dude from Shameless is seriously KILLING IT as Joker on TV.
Not to continually kick the DCEU when it's down and out, but gotdamn WB... how could you get it so damn wrong. fucked up Supes, Bats, Flash, Joker and The Justice League. smdh. it's a shame.

But back to Gotham. The moment this show decided to go full comic zaniness, it's been for the better. Embracing the over the top ridiculousness of the characters, and bucking this "grounded approach" so many have tried to do and failed with. And with constant attention to visual flare on a TV budget, it's not only fun to watch, it nice to look at too.

For those that haven't tuned in and want to know what's up with this show:
It's the city of Gotham before there was a Batman. Before Gordon was Commission, but just an up and coming officer on the force. City riddled with crime and all sorts of crazy villains start coming out of the woodworks with personas larger than life, giving more problems than the police can handle within the law and politics of the city. This is all leading up to the need for someone just as crazy and theatrical to combat them on their own grounds, but on the right side of the law (aka The Batman).

Enjoy this for what it is, and it's a fun ride. It's a comicbook related show that certainly doesn't take itself too seriously, and that's what makes it so damn fun to watch, regardless of how graphic or off the walls the show gets.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on April 01, 2018, 06:42:37 PM
Has anyone been game enough to try Krypton?

I can't bring myself to watch it.  I've managed to bail out on the Arrowverse shows.  I've been skeptical on Krypton since it was announced.  The CW shows are soap operas with 'super powers'.  In Arrow's case, without super powers.  The only reason I watched these shows were for the actual super hero parts and not the annoying drama.

This leads me to my hesitancy with Krypton.  Kryptonians on Krypton have no super powers.  So that leaves a soap opera which I have no interest in at all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 01, 2018, 08:33:22 PM
I turned it on, but fell asleep before it started.

I've got my hands full with so many shows in the genre....

the following shows currently on the watch list:
Agents of SHIELD, Gotham, Black Lightning, iZombie, Lucifer, Supergirl, and now binge watching Teen Wolf.

I've already put the following on indefinite hiatus:
Supernatural, Arrow, The Flash, and Legends of Tomorrow,

and the following are just waiting for new seasons to air:
Luke Cage, Daredevil, The Punisher, The Runaways, Legion, The Gifted, Preacher, *Iron Fist and The Defenders (Jessica Jones already watched) (*IF has an asterix because you know why.... :/)

Also waiting for the following new shows:
Cloak and Dagger, New Warriors, Titans (that's still happening, right? Teen Titans show?)

Other shows that I have yet to check out are:
Riverdale, and Krypton

are there any other shows that fit the genre of supernatural/superhero/comicbook that I might have missed?
I'm not sure when I'll find time to get back to Krypton or start Riverdale (that is Archie and supernatural-ish, right?)

and pre-post edit: I just saw there is another Superman show called Metropolis coming down the pipe for next yet as well. This and Titans are supposed to air on the WB streaming service.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2018, 12:28:33 AM
Teen Wolf.....

I'm only in Season 2 and this show has certainly taken a turn for the stupid. The Suspension of Disbelief has crossed the threshold and now certain actions just really don't make any sense.
I can ignore the first instance... and then maybe the second instance, but when it just piles up and is thrown in your face because the latest incident is based on you accepting the last incident.... i have to pause to question WTF is going on with this show.

Is anyone else watching this show, or has already caught up with this show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 02, 2018, 07:03:05 AM

are there any other shows that fit the genre of supernatural/superhero/comicbook that I might have missed?


Lucifer. The most procedural of all the current shows but powers through with the comedic (and general acting talents) of it's main cast. No matter how ridiculous the premise.

Has anyone been game enough to try Krypton?

I can't bring myself to watch it.  I've managed to bail out on the Arrowverse shows.  I've been skeptical on Krypton since it was announced.  The CW shows are soap operas with 'super powers'.  In Arrow's case, without super powers.  The only reason I watched these shows were for the actual super hero parts and not the annoying drama.

This leads me to my hesitancy with Krypton.  Kryptonians on Krypton have no super powers.  So that leaves a soap opera which I have no interest in at all.

I started it. It's fine. Just fine. I dropped Gotham because of its tonal inconsistencies. I don't mind zany and ludicrous but you have to stick with it like Legends does.

Krypton doesn't have that issue, but so far the show hasn't given me reason to keep watching either. Man of Steel suggested that the Kryptonians went far out into space and expanded their reach, but in this they seem to hint slightly that they haven't gone off world at all - which is mighty convenient given that Brianiac is approaching from space. It's only a 10 episode season so i'll keep going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 02, 2018, 11:54:32 AM
Lucifer was on my current watch list.

and some reviews I saw on Krypton says that twist/hook/event that gets things interesting enough to keep watching doesn't happen till like ep5, so.... hang in there?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 04, 2018, 04:35:12 AM
Black Lightning is only in its first season but my favourite part of the show is its family dynamics - which is insane for a show on the CW because i typically hate the CW for the nonsense they stuff there.

In last weeks' episode Jennifer asks her dad "how do you go to the bathroom in the suit?" and he just starts giggling and hugs her as the camera pulls away. Another time when Jefferson and Lynn are flirting at her workplace. The warmth both scenes feels so genuine and lived-in which is such a stark contrast to how its done on the Flash (even with Jesse L Martin doing his absolute best, he's constantly pulled back by the writing) which hams it up or Arrow which goes for drama and his son which annoys for different reasons.

Also, Christine Adams' (who plays Lynn Pierce) American accent is so good that it hurts my brain knowing she's a brit (and uses her english accent in Counterpart).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2018, 02:37:59 PM
I think I mentioned that in my first post about this show, but they way they all interact and talk to each other just seems natural. Not like they are struggling to deliver lines, but this is just who they are.

The cultural identity this show has not shy'd away from also hugs my warm spot. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 07, 2018, 08:31:10 PM
Anyone watch Atlanta on Thursday?

No.... ok, I'll wait. Get back at me when you're done.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 08, 2018, 05:49:28 AM
Gotta hand it to Rip Hunter as mister consistent. He will do just about anything to save the world or take down the target. I am glad they got a bit more fun out of Obama.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 08, 2018, 06:08:44 AM
Gotta hand it to Rip Hunter as mister consistent. He will do just about anything to save the world or take down the target. I am glad they got a bit more fun out of Obama.

"We're on Obamacare" - the show is simply a lot of fun now and i'm completely here for it.

Meanwhile i watched huge chunks of Arrow on mute this week. I just didnt want to see their drama, while in the same episode Diggle's wife catches him hacking into her ARGUS equipment while she was away, she raises it, he says im sorry and all is fine again. Just to go back to talking about Oliver and his issues there.

If you're gonna go for drama then you have to be consistent about it, this felt like cherry picking where and how.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 10, 2018, 04:07:02 PM
Legends dropped probably the single best episode of the entire Arrowverse. Oliver bickers with everyone about everything, Barry bickers about he's the fastest and sidelines everyone else in the process, while Legends has a legendary plushy bear fight a demon in an attempt to destroy him

Never change, Legends.

Counterpart - If you want slow-burn but well-paced spy thriller then give this a watch. What a fantastic first season. Slow, and tense and carefully plotted and quite a few "oh crap" moments that feel genuine and earned.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 11, 2018, 04:35:35 AM
Looks like I have to double down on Rip Hunter again. Robert Duvle is just the best actor. No way Rip is dead. That's like killing Doctor Who and they hedged with some odd which you know how that plays out in these shows. Plus Ray fucked with the order of things is another opening.

The totem speak is just insufferable and always a low point in any episode. That said it did give us a cronenberg baby which did gross me out a little almost losing the dinner in my mouth. Mick did good. He did what needed to be done.

Love the little detail with Ava that yeah, that isn't snow.

Legends has once again delivered and is now my top comic tv show nudging AoS(Bad season not helping)out. Heck, I enjoy it more than than any marvel movie that's not Blade or Deadpool.

Speaking of AoS how much of a budget cut did they get? They are approaching stage play level budget. They almost don't go outdoors anymore like they literally can't afford it. Not even an alleyway next to the parking lot cross the sound stage real outdoors. Even extras is a luxury.

Good thing their actors/characters are good since they barely have a dirt floor to stand on. The plot isn't winning me over either.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 12, 2018, 08:26:11 AM
 So...Reboot: Guardian Code. It's just as terrible as I expected, though the new guy playing Megabyte does a damn good Tony Jay impression.

Unfortunately, despite being a sequel series, this show has next to nothing to do with the original show. And the human scenes are some of the Cringiest, early-Saban crap I've ever seen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 12, 2018, 08:05:00 PM
It takes 10 episodes for the new Reboot to finally go back to Mainframe (where Hexadecimal, with her original voice actress; Dot; Enzo; & Bob are). Episode 10 of a 10 episode 1st batch. -_-

It was cool to see Mainframe again & to FINALLY see a Game Cube in this series. Unfortunately, that's when the show decides to insult the fans of the original series by finally revealing the identity of The User in an incredibly insulting way.

If you're going to watch this series, just watch Episode 10 & be done with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 12, 2018, 08:31:58 PM
Before I watch episode 1 and 10 I am going to guess the user is you. They are going to go Kindergarten show to prompt some physical moment from you so you can save mainframe or some ****.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2018, 07:28:12 AM
Before I watch episode 1 and 10 I am going to guess the user is you. They are going to go Kindergarten show to prompt some physical moment from you so you can save mainframe or some ****.

Oh, I DEFINITELY think Mainframe thinks the show's original User is us. But cmon...think "more insulting" than Blues Clues.

Think balding, middle-aged man-child living in his parent's basement who is obsessed with the original Reboot show & hasn't been able to move on in life in 20 years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 13, 2018, 11:33:37 AM
The Expanse is back and it immediately did a quick flyby through the system recapping various points and then got right back to business. The tension this show operates in is almost constant now.

Things may not be getting better storywise for the characters, but it is just moving onward anyway.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 13, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
Before I watch episode 1 and 10 I am going to guess the user is you. They are going to go Kindergarten show to prompt some physical moment from you so you can save mainframe or some ****.

Oh, I DEFINITELY think Mainframe thinks the show's original User is us. But cmon...think "more insulting" than Blues Clues.

Think balding, middle-aged man-child living in his parent's basement who is obsessed with the original Reboot show & hasn't been able to move on in life in 20 years.

Holy **** ****. What a **** you to the past fans after already wreaking the awesome mythology with the premise. One of the best idea it had was that the User was an inexplicable unseen God that rarely intervenes good or bad on a whim which was a pretty deep idea out of the gate.

Every single time humans are on screen I can't help but cringe. What is going on with mainframe and everyone in it? Bob did his thing verbatim which is a slap in the face. Vera got creepy fast, I don't know why they did what they did. In a weird way she was the only one that could act.

A hard recommendation to only watch episode 1 and 10 if you do. I don't know what is in-between this **** sandwich and I don't want to know the hard way.

I know OG reboot started as a kids show but the makers had other intentions which elevated it beyond Saturday morning cereal without alienating or pandering to anyone. It was a legit good clever show anybody could appreciate.

I don't know who whatever this is is made for. Even as a kid I would have been pretty insulted by this by treating kids as idiots not worthy of better entertainment. If you're going to make Power Rangers just make Power Rangers. Power Rangers knew what it was and if you watched it you were in on the joke.

What a sad state of affairs
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 13, 2018, 02:17:20 PM
Before I watch episode 1 and 10 I am going to guess the user is you. They are going to go Kindergarten show to prompt some physical moment from you so you can save mainframe or some ****.

Oh, I DEFINITELY think Mainframe thinks the show's original User is us. But cmon...think "more insulting" than Blues Clues.

Think balding, middle-aged man-child living in his parent's basement who is obsessed with the original Reboot show & hasn't been able to move on in life in 20 years.

Holy **** ****. What a **** you to the past fans after already wreaking the awesome mythology with the premise. One of the best idea it had was that the User was an inexplicable unseen God that rarely intervenes good or bad on a whim which was a pretty deep idea out of the gate.

Every single time humans are on screen I can't help but cringe. What is going on with mainframe and everyone in it? Bob did his thing verbatim which is a slap in the face. Vera got creepy fast, I don't know why they did what they did. In a weird way she was the only one that could act.

A hard recommendation to only watch episode 1 and 10 if you do. I don't know what is in-between this **** sandwich and I don't want to know the hard way.

I know OG reboot started as a kids show but the makers had other intentions which elevated it beyond Saturday morning cereal without alienating or pandering to anyone. It was a legit good clever show anybody could appreciate.

I don't know who whatever this is is made for. Even as a kid I would have been pretty insulted by this by treating kids as idiots not worthy of better entertainment. If you're going to make Power Rangers just make Power Rangers. Power Rangers knew what it was and if you watched it you were in on the joke.

What a sad state of affairs

And on top of ALL THAT, there are also MASSIVE continuity problems that come into play since Ep. 10 established that this IS a sequel series. Errors such as...

1.) Why are Hexadecimal, Bob, Dot, Enzo, & Frisket the only sentient beings still in Mainframe? Where are Phong, Mouse, Matrix, AndrAIa, Mike the TV, Hack, Slash, Cecil, and the Binomes?
2.) Why does Bob look like Season 1 Bob instead of his Season 4 design?
3.) Why does Enzo's shirt list him as version 01 when he should be version 10?
4.) Why does Hexadecimal have her Seasons 1-3 design rather than her creepy human Season 4 design?
5.) WHY IS HEXADECIMAL ALIVE? That was KIND of a plot point in Season 4!
6.) When we last left Mainframe, Megabyte had taken over & was hunting down the rest of Mainframe. So...why does Mainframe look like Season 1 now (include Megabyte's Toure, which was destroyed at the end of Season 3 when the User rebooted the system)?
7.) In the original series, "The Web" was this hellish, crippling wasteland of black tentacle monsters. However, in THIS series the Web is shown to be this Apple Clean blue information superhighway where everything's fine. Are the makers seriously saying the Internet's gotten LESS dangerous since the 90s?

This should have been a sequel to Superhuman Samurai Sybersquad, not Reboot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on April 13, 2018, 08:02:38 PM
Roseanne reboot/season 10 anyone?

I just got through episode 4. I wasn't sure if I was going to get into this show. I was such a huge fan of the original series.

I think they are completely ignoring so many plot developments from the original series it's kind of sickening. There is just too much they are ignoring for throw away Trump jokes.
I can't stop watching and this week was the first episode it really felt like the old show, almost, but it still dropped the ball.

I have issues with it but I still keep watching. Not sure how long that will last though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 18, 2018, 06:18:36 AM
This should have been a sequel to Superhuman Samurai Sybersquad, not Reboot.
I had to look this up as the name was too ridiculous to be a thing. I was wrong.

I am watching Reboot again which was meant to be a palette cleanser but I might as well watch the whole thing. I am still spotting new references and anachronisms. Anachronisms isn't a bad thing in this case as they serve the story and universe. Without it it would be very hard to write a story and as long as they keep it internally consistent it's fine.

The big obvious example of this right from the start is the Gamecube time difference is impossible to reconcile unless the User run as fast as the computer. However it's internally consistent. It's like their version of special/relativity combined with how each computer should have a different clock speeds which should result in massive time and mental differences. But it's fine if you don't apply "Our" physics to theirs which is governed by entirely different universal constants and like our universe has counter intuitive rules.

It's impossible to reconcile everything so you are better off discarding things like clock speed being tied to intelligence as it is never brought up again and too troublesome to ever work. Would you go somewhere that makes you dumb? Or stepping into a slower system in for even a moment would cause everything or one you love die?

Far better clock speed is the RPM of a system when it comes to generating power to maintain environmental conditions which is a constant which means more power results in more spacetime or ability to power more buildings. Its an interesting thought exercise and a bridge to how to understand our own universe.

Anyway Supergirl is back and its good. It thankfully does a quick recap of the last half. What is the deal with so many half seasons these days? You usually make an entire season before going on break which is super useful to maintain viewer momentum. Entire seasons is now the exception, not the rule.

LOL DEO security always. Anybody can get into an armoury which is less secure than a janitor closest and walk out with a gun which has enough in that one room to take on the city police and win. It's a pistol but what the hell. Doesn't even have external sensors so every time someone kicks down their door they are always caught by surprise. Not helped that they are in a sky rise with a giant unshielded window just so villains to burst into the control centre which they never fail to do.

The other what has to be a running joke is it is easier to ask who doesn't know Kara is Supergirl.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 18, 2018, 10:41:33 PM
The big obvious example of this right from the start is the Gamecube time difference is impossible to reconcile unless the User run as fast as the computer. However it's internally consistent. It's like their version of special/relativity combined with how each computer should have a different clock speeds which should result in massive time and mental differences. But it's fine if you don't apply "Our" physics to theirs which is governed by entirely different universal constants and like our universe has counter intuitive rules.

To Reboot's credit, the writers actually do address this in Season 3 when Enzo ages rapidly into his adult form from many cycles within the games. They actually state that the games compile faster than the normal systems.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 25, 2018, 01:08:02 AM
To Reboot's credit, the writers actually do address this in Season 3 when Enzo ages rapidly into his adult form from many cycles within the games. They actually state that the games compile faster than the normal systems.
It's internally consistent but it should be the other way around where it's faster outside/slower inside if you take the logical path with "Us" in the equaltion. Narratively the choice they made is much better. Most of the representations of their world compared to ours is straight up wrong but doesn't matter as the computer setting is what is important and it's internal consistency.

Bad shows have poor to no internal consistency, constantly making **** up to get out of the corner cause by the last bit of BS they made up. Even comedy not matter how absurd has rules but part of it can be breaking them in a clever way like breaking our social norms. The big one off the top of my head is the Chapel show with the black white supremacist who has a racist friend that catered to his racism to extraordinary lengths. It breaks just about every racial norms and I just can't stop laughing.

Anyway AoS, still ehh for most of the episode but it ends in quite a shocker. Reminded me of Powers(Super hero show) where they had such a low budget they used stupid amounts of blood as that was really cheap compared to any other special effects they could do.

I think Coulson had pulled that play before with with someone else regarding Talbot but it was effective acted stage play. FFS secret intelligence organizations really need to learn that locks on doors exists and the best place to use them is your armoury just behind your front door and ahead of your computers. Gemma and Fritz have fallen off their high spot as they have lost the ability to make choices which is funny given to what they are subscribing to right now.

Altered Carbon. Damn good show I highly recommend to anybody into sci-fi. The only thing I don't like about it is his back story which they do need but is done so boringly and a bit head in ass.

WestWorld Season 2. More than equals the first season with some cute little things that are there both to satisfy the fans a little but also flips off them for readings between the lines to the point of BS and being toxic. Had a good dig at China which I personally appreciated.

Every cast member from season 1 has had a bump in acting ability which they will need to fill Ford's death as he easily stole every scene even if he was just standing around. Not to say everyone else wasn't good as they were a Tour De Force. It was such a high level of acting I never thought possible from anyone and the ease of how they did it.

OG Reboot: Still holds up nicely with no new epsiodes souring if they weren't good or had a point before. Prime example is Where No Sprite Has Gone Before. Icons and Number 7 make it redundant and not much more than a Star Trek spoof that would have made for a half baked real Trek episode.

Enzo the Smart is another bad episode while funny it was crazy Phong would endanger the system so much just to teach Enzo a lesson that doesn't really take. Thankfully Phong doesn't pull something that stupid ever again.

Those special moments still hit as hard as ever.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 25, 2018, 04:33:03 AM
Altered Carbon was quite enjoyable. I really liked it too. I had a few niggles with how they could have played with the premise a bit more (and how you could tell the producers pulled back from really "going there" with it), but in all i liked it.

Westworld - Some good shows experience an upgrade in acting quality as the actors and writers settle more into their roles. It also helps that in the credits there was several "new" crew members, all of which worked on Person of Interest. Having the same talent that made that show work so well on board WW only will help here.

I do need ohhboyy to start on The Expanse. It's a fantastic series, and definitely one of the ones i look forward to seeing return each year. It's slow world-building has paid off brilliantly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 25, 2018, 08:10:09 AM
I will give the Expanse another shot but I bounced off hard and quick late time, barely stopped just pass the prologue. It dumps you with weak world building by torture which isn't endearing, cool, badass or earned. It didn't even really setup the premise.

Going to watch the newest episode of Supergirl. If someone busts into DEO again I am going to take a long face palm especially if it is through the windows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 25, 2018, 09:09:11 AM
I will give the Expanse another shot but I bounced off hard and quick late time, barely stopped just pass the prologue. It dumps you with weak world building by torture which isn't endearing, cool, badass or earned. It didn't even really setup the premise.


It takes a whole season and a half for that world building to actually amount to something.  It takes a long and deliberate route to setup different factions across different areas before it starts playing with them. When that happens it all feels organic and not because "The Plot demands Barry be irritating again this week".

That and its battle scenes are the most tense things i've seen on TV since Late-DS9 and BSG.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on April 25, 2018, 09:36:33 PM
I am not sure whether the DEO getting trashed again counts as it came from the inside. Half a face palm I guess but then a full one for such awful security again. Good episode otherwise with some funny self awareness in the opening.

*Everyone stares at Kara as she starts striping to fly off to an emergency, slowly undoing the buttons* "What? I like this shirt".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 01, 2018, 07:39:43 PM
The Avatar: The Last Airbender BluRay set came out today (early Best Buy exclusive), a BluRay that Nickelodeon originally said they were never going to do because "the assets didn't exist anymore." Well, now that I've seen the show in 1080p, I can firmly declare...that they were completely correct, because the show looks like fuzzy garbage. This is clearly an upscale of the original DVD files rather than a native 1080p render. Granted, it's still far better than the DVD looked due to less compression & updated video Codecs and you do adjust to it after a few minutes, but man it's a disappointment seeing one of my all-time favorite shows look this blurry & washed-out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on May 02, 2018, 02:09:02 AM
Why are the assets gone? Did they toss them or lose them in a fire? Not an Avatar fan, but always a shame when we lose media sources.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2018, 11:23:01 PM
I’m slowly getting through The Handmaid’s Tale. I can’t binge this show because I’m so uncomfortable after each episode which I think is the point. I’m glad I’m horrified because it’s proof that I’m not a sociopath. The other day my girlfriend and I watched an episode then put on Shrek on Netflix immediately after just to cleanse our palettes before starting the next episode.

Aunt Lydia definitely reminds me of Sarah Huckabee Sanders. The character is a nightmare, but I can’t help but laugh every time she shows up. I don’t want to get into politics so I’ll just say, “Thanks, Michelle Wolf.”
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 11, 2018, 07:40:38 AM
The Expanse has been cancelled, which is incredibly annoying because the show has steadily improved from season 1 into this amazing place of permanent political and military tension that is completely earned and justified. Depending on how the final episode of the season/series goes, it will end the current book at least.

Hopefully another network will pick up the show like it truly deserves.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2018, 05:57:16 PM
The Expanse has been cancelled, which is incredibly annoying because the show has steadily improved from season 1 into this amazing place of permanent political and military tension that is completely earned and justified. Depending on how the final episode of the season/series goes, it will end the current book at least.

Hopefully another network will pick up the show like it truly deserves.

It will have only finished the second book, though, right? The series is up to seven books now, with an eighth coming later this year, so they never had any hope of the show catching up and finishing, especially given some of what happens in the later books.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on May 12, 2018, 11:22:09 PM
I just got to Season 6 of Shameless (U.S.). I have become so desensitized with this show nothing shocks me anymore.

I did some re-watching of 90's Roseanne. I know times have changed since then but I think she or the writers are ignoring basically everything but superficial references because there's so much that contradicts they original show it's getting to the point of being painful to watch.

I am not sure what to make of Last Man on Earth getting cancelled. I was just trying to get back into that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 13, 2018, 03:51:21 AM
AoS
Blasphemy! New set(recycled), going outdoors and destroying actual vehicles and property?. A show with actual money to put on screen? Such indulgence. Advancing the plot? The horror!.

Coulson and May finally sealed the deal. It was hot but not the best place to do it.
That emo make up on Talbot, his costume looks like ass. Maximum Deak.

Archer is back. Haven't watched it yet. The last season wasn't really working being really, really far from it's original premise. Here's hoping for a much better season.

Westworld: Where is the swearing chick? I am Jonesing here. Dolores, Dolores, Dolores, what are we going to do with you. Poor Ted. Oh god that is so serious and funny messing with the hosts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 14, 2018, 12:52:02 AM
Speaking of Back Story: The series. Stargate Origins.

Holy **** the fan response is toxic. For all the talk about breaking continuity SGO doesn't and when it does it is tiny inconsequential details done for obvious budget restrictions. It sanitises itself to fit the continuity nicely while adding a touch more motivation for Catherine. Adjusting the curve for expected low budget it looks pretty good.
It's cheesy scenery chewing NAZI punching fun. It is constructed as well as the TV show matching the tone if the original had nazi to punch. While I wouldn't call it lovingly made it does take good care of the material maintaining good internal constancy. The well casted actors give it the same care clearly took some time to look up the show while maintaining likeable characters and Catherine is kickass. There is a couple themes and messages embedded with smart natural subtlety. The ending is fittingly bitter sweet.
It's no high watermark or anything and it is aware of that playing to the few strengths available to it. I would definitely recommend with some mild adjustments in expectations. As long as it stays as a one shot mini series it is a welcome addition.

To add some perspective, compared to the continuity shattering hatefully made insulting **** pile that is STD, SGO might as well be Nolan Trilogy Oscar material.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 14, 2018, 04:32:03 PM
The Expanse has been cancelled, which is incredibly annoying because the show has steadily improved from season 1 into this amazing place of permanent political and military tension that is completely earned and justified. Depending on how the final episode of the season/series goes, it will end the current book at least.

Hopefully another network will pick up the show like it truly deserves.

It will have only finished the second book, though, right? The series is up to seven books now, with an eighth coming later this year, so they never had any hope of the show catching up and finishing, especially given some of what happens in the later books.

I 100% agree. Especially given that no SyFy-produced show has made it past 5 seasons in many years.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 14, 2018, 04:38:01 PM
The Expanse has been cancelled, which is incredibly annoying because the show has steadily improved from season 1 into this amazing place of permanent political and military tension that is completely earned and justified. Depending on how the final episode of the season/series goes, it will end the current book at least.

Hopefully another network will pick up the show like it truly deserves.

It will have only finished the second book, though, right? The series is up to seven books now, with an eighth coming later this year, so they never had any hope of the show catching up and finishing, especially given some of what happens in the later books.

I 100% agree. Especially given that no SyFy-produced show has made it past 5 seasons in many years.

It's now sounding like there's hope of it being picked up by somebody else. And it wasn't actually SyFy producing it, they just aired it. The author of the books said the ninth would be the final one, so maybe there's a very slim chance they could get there if they find a good partner.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 14, 2018, 04:56:25 PM
Continuing my Avatar: TLA rewatch via the BluRays. About halfway through Season 2. Yep, Toph is still one of the all-time best TV characters ever made. She & Azula were what turned the show around from average & inconsistent to awesome.

The transfer seems to be much better in the 2nd season. Not as many glaring compression or upscaling artifacts.

Man, all these great characters...and the Legend of Korra would go on to **** on each & every one of them by posthumously deciding they grew up to be assholes & failures. -_-
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 14, 2018, 06:11:17 PM
The Expanse has been cancelled, which is incredibly annoying because the show has steadily improved from season 1 into this amazing place of permanent political and military tension that is completely earned and justified. Depending on how the final episode of the season/series goes, it will end the current book at least.

Hopefully another network will pick up the show like it truly deserves.

It will have only finished the second book, though, right? The series is up to seven books now, with an eighth coming later this year, so they never had any hope of the show catching up and finishing, especially given some of what happens in the later books.

I 100% agree. Especially given that no SyFy-produced show has made it past 5 seasons in many years.

It's now sounding like there's hope of it being picked up by somebody else. And it wasn't actually SyFy producing it, they just aired it. The author of the books said the ninth would be the final one, so maybe there's a very slim chance they could get there if they find a good partner.


SyFy did only have broadcast rights to it, but they still had to order the show to production. In that scope what i'm saying is still true. Supposedly it is one of Amazon's best streaming shows (although Netflix has it internationally) so there's hope.

Lucifer's series finale just aired, and i'm pretty annoyed at how the series ended. Thanks Fox for screwing up THAT cliffhanger.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on May 14, 2018, 06:43:50 PM
Out of sheer boredom I started watching Fraiser with my mom. It's not what I expected. I am enjoying it a lot more than I thought I would, definitely better than Cheers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 17, 2018, 03:13:52 AM
Anyone been watching The Blacklist? 

Season 5 just ended with a very interesting twist.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 18, 2018, 09:18:55 AM
The Expanse just blew everything up. What a great episode.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on May 18, 2018, 05:42:07 PM
I just started getting into The Middle. I've seen random episodes here and there with my sister but never sat down to actually watch the show. It's not bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 19, 2018, 04:49:55 PM
Agents of Shield S5 finale.

Alright, but disappointing.  Didn't even come close to the Spy's Goodbye in my opinion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2018, 05:33:04 PM
Agents of Shield S5 finale.

Alright, but disappointing.  Didn't even come close to the Spy's Goodbye in my opinion.

I agree. Chloe was trying to sell it on being super emotional... but it really wasn't that strong of a scene.

This scene was pretty dope though
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1 year wait for S6, and then I bet they get a S7 (or spin-off) for the streaming service too.
I wonder what happened to Deke though. I know he said he was gonna leave and go experience Earth... but it's possible he could've faded out of existence as well.

Season 4 still remains the GOAT by a country mile IMO.
I hope S6 rivals it in storytelling and execution.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on May 19, 2018, 06:05:18 PM
Yeah that was pretty damn awesome.  I was hoping for a bit more fisticuffs between Quake and Talbot though but what we got was pretty cool.

I love how Daisy acknowledged her weakness in leadership and handed the reigns to Mack. (why she was the deputy boss in the first place confuses me.  May and Mack have been at Shield far longer.) A perfect choice in my opinion.  The very epitome of morality.


Henry Simmons just sells emotional scenes so well in my opinion.  He did the same in the Spy's Goodbye (Yes I love that scene so sue me).  Many of the YouTube comments on that scene say that they held it together until they saw Mack near the end and they just lost it. 



I do wonder what they're going to do with Phil in season 6, if he comes back at all.  I hope it's no stupid time travel plot again.  I HATE time travel with a passion.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on May 19, 2018, 07:00:42 PM
I made the mistake of reading a Season recap of one of the later seasons of Shameless and now I want to just stop watching the show to save me the heartache that is coming.

I was wrong about Frasier. I watched a few random episodes with my mom and thought it was more entertaining than Cheers. I spent all day the other day having a marathon with my mom and I spelt through most of the show. I liked the characters and the premise but, damn he's boring.

I also spent most of the day watching Royal Wedding stuff. It's weird seeing an American celebrity marry into the British monarchy but weirder things have happened, like hiring an Oompa Loompa to run the most powerful military on the planet earth...

I also started watching Once Upon a Time on Netflix. Loving it so far. I just wish AMC or someone not restricted by the lame FCC would have picked this show up instead of ABC.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 19, 2018, 07:25:35 PM
Arrow's Season 6 finale. OK alright then. A massive waste of Sara Lance, who didnt even mention what the Legends has been upto. I still consider the show "how to waste the talents of Michael Emerson".

Blindspot... still easily the worst of the Berlanti shows. I skipped the finale and will drop the show. I just watched in the hope it would start to improve.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 19, 2018, 09:52:27 PM
AoS: Very messy finale.

Shut up Daisy.

Also why the Mack. uhhg. He is badass but his character is a mess. He has ethics for sure but he is awful at communicating his agenda and working the problem sitting down being sanctimonious all the time making the the team splinter or rally against him. How long has he been with them? You think he should have figured out by now these people are weird, bordering on insane by staying yet they get the right results. He is Lisa Simpson. That talent pool is rather limited and Daisy is preferable.

Near joke answer is have Deak take the position. His child like heart and wonder which annoys the characters externally but sparks good processes for the problem and emotionally. He really wants to preserve our world as for him its paradise. He is smart and resourceful. Big problem is he is crippled by being a fish out of water, lacking training and command presence.

I can't say the journey was worth the destination. Disconnect it from the season and throw in some more money, tweak the dialogue and it would be pretty good. As is it's disappointing.

Since BlackNMild2k1 has revealed the fight, when in the hell did Daisy become neigh invulnerable? She should be a sack of broken bones from her first attack let alone Talbert's power slam turning her into paste. Conceptually the fight is fine just some blatant gaps unless I had missed them.

I do like how Talbert really has gone mad without the tantrum other shows would have. He is completely logical in his own mind with absolutely no dissonance. Although I question having Hydra people in the muck as it does undermine his character "I can fix this", taking away a large part of his fall because he got injected with evil.

Space: Shield's villain dumping ground.

Here is the big spoilers. Fritz is dead but not since his frozen as is still with Enok who would notice the change in Earth's timeline pretty quick and from earlier in the season he has pretty much babysat him. A good emotional sleight of hand with Gemma looking happy instead of a quivering mess, that connected. Coulson's retirement didn't do much for me. You know he is going away short of some weird ****. Again it's Ian selling it hard. He has really carried the show when possible, he's AoS Anthony Hopkins.

The bigger problem is now they don't have a spy master or anybody with the skills or connections to work with other government agencies or to come up with plans. They can't stay underground forever and they do need funding as Nick didn't salt that much money. Without him Shield doesn't have the legitimacy to keep going. Doubly so now that Talbert's dead, as much as he is a pain in the ass he bats for shield in his own way  from almost the beginning. Being so pivotal meant his shooting instead of being a manhunt for Daisy is a hunt for Shield.

Now they have a team of punchers and a married super villain which went nowhere.

Deak is still alive. Since it looks like it uses Back to the future rules the Prime paradoxes/travellers going from the present to the future and back stay in place with the current time our people exist in along with the information carried. For the Primes the past is the past that has happened unless they go back to change that. Time loops doesn't exist. Self-fulfilling events are mental constructs. They had to "loop" twice to have enough information to change the event.

Hence the post card. It's proof that Fritz and Deak are out there. It also means they can shoot their own parents and still be alive as long as Prime self is at the time of the event like Deak is. Fritz and Gemma can have no children.

They become broken points in time living in a present/future where they don't exist. Deak is born when he arrived in our time.


It does not use Doctor Who rules when Prime observers ie; traveller observe the event unambiguously it becomes fixed. eg, a scream doesn't mean they are dead as the Primes didn't observe it. It means it is effectively restricted by the writer's ability to keep the story together and introducing enough vagueness at key points so it can be changed.

There are problems with spacetime as we understand it so until that is solved shows have to pick a paradox and stick with it.

I haven't read any of the comics so who is Gravaton(Some body mentioned the name) and what is his deal outside the show?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 25, 2018, 03:44:38 AM
Holy ****, The Expanse dropped probably the most gruesome (and scientifically accurate) death scene i've ever seen on TV.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 25, 2018, 03:45:56 AM
I really need to get caught up with that. So glad Amazon picked it up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on May 25, 2018, 03:57:22 PM
I've gotten all caught up on The Toys That Made Us.

I enjoyed their Lego and Star Trek episodes but they seemed to go through Transformers a little quick like they were just going to ignore G2 and RID perpetuating the myth that Beast Wars 'saved' the toyline and ignoring everything between the G1 line and the BayFormers. Ugh.

The Lego episode was great. I learned a lot. I was disappointed at first when I heard they were doing Star Trek at all because I know the toys suck and aren't on the same cultural caliber as the other stuff they covered. My reaction was it was pandering to the nerds to keep the Star Wars/Star Trek people happy. And I think to an extent that is part of it because they kept bringing up Star Wars every chance they could. However, I realized it wasn't about how successful or popular a toyline was but the interesting story behind it they were going for.

I ranted for nearly an hour on a podcast once over them saying He-Man was a 'cultural phenomenon' when it was nothing more than a fad that burned bright and hot. I just didn't realize the purpose of the show wasn't o talk about the most important toys or most popular but those with the best story.

Barbie and G.I. Joe have great stories on their own. Transformers story is also very interesting. I haven't seen Hello Kitty yet I figured 3 hours was enough for one day.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 06, 2018, 03:24:00 PM
Welcome to WestWorld
They really know how to make an offhand phrase into something badass.
Supergirl: As much as I would like to agree Jones new policy isn't going to end well given the type of work they do and how it will lock out options they will need. While they are cops, they aren't beat cops. The problem wasn't his organization, it was everything else. I would help to lock their armouries though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 06, 2018, 06:41:01 PM
With the release of the 2nd half of Season 2 on BluRay, I've finally seen all of Season 2 of My Hero Academia and...it was actually pretty fantastic. Unlike certain...other...anime series I've seen of late, it doesn't waste its time and (more importantly) mine just running around in circles on unimportant, filler garbage. Season 2 advances the overall plot and the viewer's knowledge of this world considerably, which is especially impressive considering half the season is dedicated to an anime staple I LOATHE: the tournament arc, traditionally where anime series go to die with 2-3 seasons where the plot just stops while characters stand around having mental conversations for 3-4 episodes at a time.

My Hero Academia's tournament arc only goes for 12 episodes, and half of that is more obstacle course than outright fighting. It advances several characters considerably, and then it gets right the **** out before it gets boring. The 2nd half of the season has some amazing battle sequences and the first legitimately compelling villain in the series. Hopefully, he'll show up in later seasons.

So far, the show's also handling power creep reasonably well and even the apparent filler isn't really filler. Hopefully, that continues.

The wait for the official English release of Season 3 is going to be painful.

On a side note, Westworld Season 1 was on sale at Best Buy on BluRay, so I picked that up. Never got around to watching the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 11, 2018, 12:06:07 AM
Anyone watch the first 2 eps of Cloak and Dagger?

I liked it. Show is off to a good start.
I want to get 3 or so more episodes before I start throwing too much praise, but the first 2 were solid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 11, 2018, 03:26:12 AM
I enjoyed it too.  Definitely in for the season. 

The ending of episode two seems to indicate they'll be paired up now.  Hopefully it stays that way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: segagamersteph on June 14, 2018, 12:12:04 PM
I finally made it to season 5 of Lost. I been avoiding this show like the plague. My parents got super into it. They watch it, go back to beginning watch it again. I got to season 3 and gave up. SO this last month I got through s4 and am now 4 episodes  into Season 5. This show just pisses me off. That is all.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 22, 2018, 07:13:05 AM
What a amazingly tense episode of The Expanse. The show goes to some great efforts to show off the devastation of rapid unexpected deceleration, the chaos because of it and the effect it causes the human body in a zero g environment including pools of tears around eyes and a space fire because of what happened.

This has easily become my favourite show on TV since Person of Interest ended; it really rewards patience and attention to detail.

Anyone watch the first 2 eps of Cloak and Dagger?

I liked it. Show is off to a good start.
I want to get 3 or so more episodes before I start throwing too much praise, but the first 2 were solid.

Amazon has the series here so i binged the first three episodes. I like the tone and the feel of the show, and, unlike Preacher, actually feels like a show set/filmed in New Orleans.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 23, 2018, 06:48:28 AM
I finally made it to season 5 of Lost. I been avoiding this show like the plague. My parents got super into it. They watch it, go back to beginning watch it again. I got to season 3 and gave up. SO this last month I got through s4 and am now 4 episodes  into Season 5. This show just pisses me off. That is all.

Yeah the show was good until the writers strike and then it got bad. I watched it all the way through. There is some really good stuff ahead though. No payoff for finishing though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on June 28, 2018, 07:52:03 PM
So...Double Dare's back. With Marc Summers...sort of. And it's...pretty OK.

I watched the 3 episodes that seem available at the moment, and so far the show seems to be off to a good start. The show has a good rhythm to it, Liza's an excellent host when it comes to the energy, and Marc Summers is classy as ever as the co-host/announcer.

Too bad the pilot was so terrible. Weak physical challenges based largely around water, almost no messiness, and an incredibly lame obstacle course did not start the show off well. However, there must have been some studio notes to the tune of "THIS IS DOUBLE DARE, DAMNIT!", because the slime & the muck appear in huge amounts & often in the 2nd & 3rd episodes. The obstacle course also received some alternative stops that just fit Double Dare better.

The show still has some issues. I feel like the questions are almost insultingly easy for a show that's supposed to be pushing the physical challenges, but the show has regressed a bit to 2 teams of very young children, so it makes sense. What I think is a larger issue is that it just doesn't feel like the Obstacle course was balanced well. Of the 3 teams that ran the course, 2 got stuck on one obstacle, as typical for Double Dare, and lost.
However, the 3rd was finding those flags almost as soon as they reached the obstacle, and they still didn't make it.

It feels like the obstacles might need to tweaked a bit to make them take less time to complete.

So far, so good. They even kept the running gag where all the prizes are incredibly lame until you reach the grand prize, including karaoke machines just like in the good ol' days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 28, 2018, 11:46:37 PM
Luke Cage

Is anyone slogging through this? Fiege needs to take over Marvel TV.
It's not that the show is bad, it's just that it's so slow... it's on the verge of being boring.
Dude that plays Luke just has the DRIEST delivery of EVERYTHING ever....
Girl that plays Black Mariah just does not sell EVIL SCARY BITCH NOT TO BE FUCKED WITH
the relationship between Mariah and Shades is just... it just... doesn't work, It's not believable. there is no chemistry and NO passion in their relationship.

and can all these actors seriously train martial arts, boxing or whatever HARD in the off season? The fight scenes aren't terribad, but they are certainly lacking execution and excitement.
I feel like it would be a little more exciting if Luke Cage himself could seem even a little amused during a fight. There are much more interesting ways to take a bullet than just standing there... learn to play with your food a little son. damn.

I still got like 3 episodes to go, and I've been watching this show for 2 weeks. Marvel lucky I already bought in to the MarvelNetflixU, because this has been a pretty tough watch for me to binge through so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 29, 2018, 01:09:27 AM
DC TV really nail down the Super fights. It still suffers at times from fist fight in a fire fight which Legends is super guilty of. The season finale in Supergirl, Kara has this amazing little fight sequence that is so much better than most marvel movies.

WestWorld:
Amazing. Not much to say really. It equalled last season in most ways and I came away satisfied with the conclusion which was a surprise extended episode. This show has a lot of guts. Killed my favourite character Elsie, RIP.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 29, 2018, 05:50:08 PM
Luke Cage

and can all these actors seriously train martial arts, boxing or whatever HARD in the off season? The fight scenes aren't terribad, but they are certainly lacking execution and excitement.
I feel like it would be a little more exciting if Luke Cage himself could seem even a little amused during a fight. There are much more interesting ways to take a bullet than just standing there... learn to play with your food a little son. damn.

This is a problem with a lot of shows. Outside of Arrow (except when they get sloppy and you see the stunt actors or how punches/moves never "connect"), Agents of Shield (specifically kevin tancharoen episodes) and Into The Badlands it seems that stuntwork is given no attention.

Once you see it, though, you cant unsee it either.
Though really, out of the Netflix shows:
They don't seem to want to mix that up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 30, 2018, 05:34:15 PM
I would say there's a bit of trolling in Luke's fighting style too.  I never get tired of seeing his opponents being knocked out from a slap.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2018, 02:56:11 PM
I don't mind Luke's fighting style. Fits in with the "I really don't want to do this" mentality he has about the whole fighting/hero thing.


2 episodes in and it is slow, but I remember S1 also starting slow, and the show was always a bit more of a slow ride and I didn't mind it, felt it fit the content. But nothing tops the mid S1 scene where Mariah kills Cottonmouth. I freaked at that.


Agree that Mariah isn't that imposing anymore. Seems a bit more emotionally unstable and even vulnerable, and Shade's behavior regarding her and irrationally "defending her honor" just doesn't add up.


There is an odd disconnect in all of the Marvel TV content, and I agree that Feige needs to get control of the TV, or at least get someone on the TV helm who is in line with him and directly under him. I'm not sure Feige could balance both well enough without help, but give him an executive veto/vote in the process going forward.


Considering how Disney will pull content from Netflix in 2019, I wonder if there will be an impending reorg announcement related to this. Really bummed we aren't getting a Defenders S2 anytime soon. There wasn't enough of it the first time around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 08, 2018, 11:24:32 PM
Haven't watched a new Gundam series in about a decade, not since Seed Destiny really soured me on the franchise & 00 wasn't looking particularly great.

However, playing a really terrible Gundam game lately (Gundam Vs.) did manage to get me in the mood to watch something from that series again, so I decided to try out Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans - Season 1.

Having finished the season, I'm really digging this one. Gundam is a franchise that relishes its tropes, and this one seems to be going out of its way to not hit as many of them as usual (and openly mock others). Honestly, with its focus on a lot of gritty tank & ship warfare and relatively little mobile suit combat, it actually gives me a very 8th MS Team-esque feel. The Gundams are relics from a 300-year old war, so they're few & far between.


The story surrounds a team of child soldiers who have been implanted with devices that allow them to interface with mecha through their spine & brain, without extensive training & knowledge. After getting screwed-over by their adult overlords, they stage a coup & basically end up starting their own private military organization. Their goal? To escort the leader of a local resistance movement from Mars to Earth to argue for Mars' independence.

The show follows this group's journey from Mars to Earth & beyond as they try to fight off pirates, the Earth military, and constant political machinations from both their allies & their enemies. In fact, I think what looks like the villain of season 2 is one of the best the series has ever done, perfectly puppet-mastering all the pieces on the board into moving himself into power without making it look like a last-second "gotcha" (which Seed Destiny was guilty of, IIRC).

There's a sense of sheer brutality to this show that really clicks with me. Beam weaponry doesn't exist, and resources are relatively scarce so battles often revolve around trickery & the use of several different groups of fighters (mobile suits, ships, footsoldiers, etc). The combat usually comes down to tanks blowing each other up while the mobile suits try to bash each other to death with glorified clubs & spears. Characters seem to die fairly regularly so far, something Gundam usually reserves for the end of the show.

Season 2 comes out on BluRay next month, and I'm looking forward to seeing where this story goes. I hear the ultimate ending is outstanding.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on July 09, 2018, 03:53:08 AM
I don't mind Luke's fighting style. Fits in with the "I really don't want to do this" mentality he has about the whole fighting/hero thing.


2 episodes in and it is slow, but I remember S1 also starting slow, and the show was always a bit more of a slow ride and I didn't mind it, felt it fit the content. But nothing tops the mid S1 scene where Mariah kills Cottonmouth. I freaked at that.


Agree that Mariah isn't that imposing anymore. Seems a bit more emotionally unstable and even vulnerable, and Shade's behavior regarding her and irrationally "defending her honor" just doesn't add up.


There is an odd disconnect in all of the Marvel TV content, and I agree that Feige needs to get control of the TV, or at least get someone on the TV helm who is in line with him and directly under him. I'm not sure Feige could balance both well enough without help, but give him an executive veto/vote in the process going forward.


Considering how Disney will pull content from Netflix in 2019, I wonder if there will be an impending reorg announcement related to this. Really bummed we aren't getting a Defenders S2 anytime soon. There wasn't enough of it the first time around.

This season is strange. I like Bushmaster a lot and he makes a good villain. It did not have the newness factor, and some stuff seemed more contrived. It was still really good. It was one of the top seasons of the Marvel shows, but not the best.

I also wonder what they're going to do with the Marvel content. It was supposed to be a Netflix exclusive, but it could just as well be cloned on the other services when Disney decides to do that. Also moving forward I wish they have more callouts to what is going on in the MCU besides the first alien incident. Maybe once the Fox deal is finalized we'll start to get a greater connectivity.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2018, 10:26:29 AM
Anybody watching Cloak & Dagger?

It's actually pretty good, considering it's slowly building up. They've dropped 2 references to the Netflix Marvel so far the cop in New Orleans is friends with Misty Knight from Luke Cage. I think Misty may have made a passing mention to her in S2 of Luke Cage, but I can't remember right now. Misty was directly name dropped on last nights episode tho
They are having a Marvel TV panel today at SDCC, so it might be getting some second season news on stage. One of the people involved with the show have already come out and talked about how the last couple episodes ramp things up, and they got plans for big things in S2.

It's a good time to jump into this one and binge watch. only 2 episodes left I think. 10 eps in all for the 1st season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on July 20, 2018, 04:30:41 PM
Yep.  I'm really enjoying it.  A bit of a slow start like most non Shield Marvel shows, but they're getting good now.  Really  enjoyed yesterday's episode.  We have finally seen Cloak, hopefully next week we see Dagger.  They had a really interesting way of fast tracking Tandy's skill with throwing her daggers.

So yeah, a great binging show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on July 24, 2018, 09:59:09 PM
Who is America? S01E01 and S01E02 - the best show on TV/10
Holy ****, it's insane what he gets people to do. If this show doesn't end some political careers, then we're all fucked.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 24, 2018, 11:22:46 PM
Who is America? S01E01 and S01E02 - the best show on TV/10
Holy ****, it's insane what he gets people to do. If this show doesn't end some political careers, then we're all fucked.

The guy that took upskirts while pretending to be asian, and then screamed the N word (with full r on the end), and then used his bare ass to disarm a armed "terrorist" was told to resign..... he refused.
I believe he will need to be voted out. (edit: nevermind, he resigned (https://politics.myajc.com/news/state--regional-govt--politics/breaking-lawmaker-who-used-racial-slurs-show-resigns/PZeFXPfA9xo98b62amubzN/))

I'm really hoping Sasha Baren Cohen got 3 seasons worth of material to last all through 2020 with this nonsense.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 24, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
Gravity Falls released on BluRay today, so I thought I'd finally check the show out. Heard a lot about it, but never saw it before.

Watched the first 5 episodes so far, and I can't say I'm blown away but the show seems enjoyable enough. I'm intrigued enough by some of the teases they've dropped so far, and I dig the Twin Peaks-esque tone. It's a pity that Disney produced this show, though, as you can see the invisible hands of Disney pulling the production back from doing anything particularly dark (so far).

Shout Factory's BluRay transfer, though, is fantastic. So far on my big 1080p TV, I'm not seeing any noticeable compression artifacts & very little (if any) grain. Hell, I'm pretty sure the grain I have seen so far is intentional texture work. Coming off my recent Avatar: TLA BluRay rewatch, the show just looks astounding by comparison.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 29, 2018, 05:56:49 PM
Well, I've finished Gravity Falls and...eh, it was good, I guess. I don't see where all the hype is coming from. The first season is just so formulaic and so focused on the tedious would-be love lives of the 2 main characters, which I couldn't possibly give any less of a **** about. The second season strongly focuses the show on the core mystery & features much sharper writing (and the ending is fantastic), but for me it just can't make up for how long it took the show to get to an interesting point.

It was consistently pleasant, but that's about as much praise as I feel it deserves.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 01, 2018, 05:21:52 PM
I'm really liking Cloak and Dagger. The pace is slow but its well paced-slow rather than slow for no reason. The main actors have great chemistry together.

Luke Cage meanwhile.... did anybody mention how bad the jamaican accents are? Because they are all very bad. The pacing and diction is all wrong and makes my ears hurt. They should have just hired actual jamaicans, let them use their native voice (with all that that brings - and jamaicans can talk very fast at times, so just use subtitles) and let them get a foot in the industry.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 01, 2018, 11:09:07 PM
I'm really liking Cloak and Dagger. The pace is slow but its well paced-slow rather than slow for no reason. The main actors have great chemistry together.

Luke Cage meanwhile.... did anybody mention how bad the jamaican accents are? Because they are all very bad. The pacing and diction is all wrong and makes my ears hurt. They should have just hired actual jamaicans, let them use their native voice (with all that that brings - and jamaicans can talk very fast at times, so just use subtitles) and let them get a foot in the industry.

I was saying something very similar about C&D, it's slow and dark, but gets it right. It's a good show, and tomorrow's episode (season finale) look like it's gonna get real crazy.
I posted about it in the Marvel thread alone w/ the S2 announcement.

as far a LC is concerned... :/
I'll see you in the IF S2 discussion.
It better be better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on August 01, 2018, 11:39:29 PM
Well, I've finished Gravity Falls and...eh, it was good, I guess. I don't see where all the hype is coming from. The first season is just so formulaic and so focused on the tedious would-be love lives of the 2 main characters, which I couldn't possibly give any less of a **** about. The second season strongly focuses the show on the core mystery & features much sharper writing (and the ending is fantastic), but for me it just can't make up for how long it took the show to get to an interesting point.

It was consistently pleasant, but that's about as much praise as I feel it deserves.

I liked Gravity Falls because it felt like an animated X-files but they had enough sense to wrap it up and make sense in a much shorter amount of time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 01, 2018, 11:56:14 PM
Well, I've finished Gravity Falls and...eh, it was good, I guess. I don't see where all the hype is coming from. The first season is just so formulaic and so focused on the tedious would-be love lives of the 2 main characters, which I couldn't possibly give any less of a **** about. The second season strongly focuses the show on the core mystery & features much sharper writing (and the ending is fantastic), but for me it just can't make up for how long it took the show to get to an interesting point.

It was consistently pleasant, but that's about as much praise as I feel it deserves.

I liked Gravity Falls because it felt like an animated X-files but they had enough sense to wrap it up and make sense in a much shorter amount of time.

I liked it well enough, but it was just missing...something, and I think that "something" might have been the writers' spines. The show reminds me a lot of Star Wars Rebels in some ways, in that it feels like the show spends a great deal of time spinning its wheels because the powers that be didn't want the show to introduce themes darker than what preschoolers could handle. So there's no death, very little character development, bumbling villains beaten with very little effort, and no lasting consequences of any kind.

What you get as a trade-off is a series that's consistently pleasant, but doesn't feel like it ever has any stakes until the very last few episodes. And it's really hard for me to get invested in a show where it feels like nothing matters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 02, 2018, 05:34:31 AM
I'm really liking Cloak and Dagger. The pace is slow but its well paced-slow rather than slow for no reason. The main actors have great chemistry together.

Luke Cage meanwhile.... did anybody mention how bad the jamaican accents are? Because they are all very bad. The pacing and diction is all wrong and makes my ears hurt. They should have just hired actual jamaicans, let them use their native voice (with all that that brings - and jamaicans can talk very fast at times, so just use subtitles) and let them get a foot in the industry.

I was saying something very similar about C&D, it's slow and dark, but gets it right. It's a good show, and tomorrow's episode (season finale) look like it's gonna get real crazy.
I posted about it in the Marvel thread alone w/ the S2 announcement.

as far a LC is concerned... :/
I'll see you in the IF S2 discussion.
It better be better.

I also dont get how the show manages to waste the talents of Alfre Woodward as badly as it does. She doesn't have chemistry with Shades (who himself doesn't come off as menacing, especially after Mahershala Ali out-acted everyone else on screen with almost no effort). Luke himself feels like a blank slate most of the time while Misty and Claire are the only two to actually have any urgency about them.

Me and my entire family is jamaican so we find the accents grating and frustrating. Mother is watching it with the subtitles on (which themselves just translates back to English rather than putting their actual dialect up, causing a disconnect between what you see and hear).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 02, 2018, 10:31:59 AM
It was that shows greatest mistake to kill off Cottonmouth.
the 1st 7 episodes are the best that series has been. LC is dull AF as a character... I'm not sure if it's comic accurate, the actor, or the direction he's directed to take, but show some sort of charisma on the screen please. He looks bored with everything he does, it makes him and the show kinda boring.

I also felt the same way as you about Mariah and Shades. It wasn't working, it was never believable, and at times was just plain awkward. She didn't seem fit for the role, and neither did he.

I can't speak for the accents, as I haven't been around enough Jamaicans to critique the accents used, but thankfully the guy that played the main badguy was pretty good, otherwise this whole season would have been a bust.

I really hope at some point all this Live Action Marvel gets put under one roof, and one man.
I know it would be a lot for Feige to oversee, but he could appoint a new #2 on the TV side that would coordinate with him, and up the quality of the casting and story, and maybe even integration with the movies.

I'm really hoping IF S2 is an improvement not just over the 1st season, but over LC S2.
I know Netflix is trying to pump out volume, but they gotta check the quality of these releases too, not that this is all on Netflix, Marvel TV is very much to blame here too.

Good thing AoS and C&D are both good. I'm also looking forward to New Warriors, but who knows when and where we'll see that. Too bad C&D is over after tonight, and we won't see AoS till after A4... so Runaways and Marvel Netflix is probably all we got till Capt Marvel in March of next year (they should have released AM&TW in August.....)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 02, 2018, 12:18:27 PM
(Re)Watching the Justice league animated series. Not as good as Superman Animated or Batman, alot of that is the lack of downtime. You almost never see Clark Kent or supporting characters like ❤️ Lois ❤️, Alfred etc. You barely see anyone out of costume.

JL isn't quite as clever, alot of the time they punch the problem away and Superman is a meat head. The current episode has them fighting Cthulhu, a problem they help cause by busting in on an ally midway resealing a dimensional tear. So now they have to punch Cthulhu to death. It worked out in the end but it was very "Thanks for breaking it hero!".

Hawkgirl is super awesome. HEAYH.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on August 10, 2018, 12:52:12 AM
I've now finished Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans and...wow...that ending. I've seen that thing split people right down the middle: some thinking it ruined the entire series, and others thinking it was absolutely perfect.

I'm not sure how I feel about it, but I can say one thing: it's the most brutal, most vicious, most fatalistic ending in Gundam history. Yes, even more than 0080. It plays war completely straight, pulling none of the narrative cheats that Gundam traditionally uses in its effort to tell a story about noble heroes defeating evil in the face of impossible odds.


The heroes don't overcome impossible odds. They lose. Badly. Every single major fighting character dies (along with most of the minor ones), and almost all the villains survive. And the world is a better place because of it.

I'm going to have to take some time & decompress a bit over this. This was a really awesome show that ended in an incredibly brutal, depressing way. And yet, it's probably my favorite Gundam series for its focus on tactics over magic & never activating the plot armor. Characters die a lot in this series, and the show feels incredibly honest for that reason.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 10, 2018, 02:10:37 AM
I stopped watching that after the first season. It lost me when I lost the plot. I couldn't figure out what the politics were and how fighting all these people were working towards their goal. What was Lacus Kudelia's endgame beyond talking to some people? She ended up being more of a "Princess" than any other despite the initial promise. I just stopped caring.

The fights were generally cool with a more realistic bent it wasn't enough to carry it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 11, 2018, 12:35:47 PM
Justice League Action.

LOL version of JL. Each episode has some sort of silly premise like Superman riding a Yellow Space Taxi because Lobo is shooting a red sun gun is trying to capture the prisoner supes is transferring to JL prison. Lots of fun.

JL Unlimited. The ending is better than I didn't remember. Superman makes his badass speech going after Darkseed as part of the very long grudge match between the two built up through 2 different shows(3 on a technicality).

Hawkgirl/Hawkman's relationship is as insufferable here as it is in Legends except Hawkgirl is awesome instead of miserable pile of moop.

It has pretty good writing going into social issues smartly as part of the story without any heavy handedness.

Wonder Women is a bit of a man hater, not as bad as a lot of others from themascira but she softens as she interacts with Hawkgirl who has no such hangups.

Hawkgirl arc is about loyalty to herself and others.

Superman is obviously power corrupts. He slowly slips from boyscout to someone who is a bit less idealistic at times having to reassure himself and others that he won't go over the edge. He has to rebuilt trust with how people thought he betrayed them via Darkseed. Which leads to Project Cadamas and Professor Hamilton's defection.

Flash is his seemingly immature attitude and staying as the heart of the group.

Manhunter's is a self enforced isolation as a Martian on Earth and a mind reader.

Batman is about holding the line morally with sheer will and his pain.

Supergirl is purpose and finding a place for herself.

Green Lantern is love? He ends up in a love triangle of sorts and annoys the group with his soldiering.

Aquaman is an asshole nationalist who will happily do anything to protect Atlantis.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 11, 2018, 12:53:57 PM
Fear the Walking Dead - first half of season 4 - 8/10
I stopped watching like halfway through season 3, even though it was pretty decent. Anyway, it's like a completely new show now. Very different than Walking Dead, and a completely different cast than they had in the beginning, aside from a single character. It's worth getting back into of you've given up on the show...you could even start with season 4 and skip the rest and not be too far out of the loop.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on August 15, 2018, 01:08:48 PM
Finally catching up with the Netflix Marvel shows.

The Defenders
This was okay. Better than Iron Fist, but that’s such a low bar, it’s almost not worth mentioning. Speaking of, there was a little too much of the Iron Fist character especially since that show directly preceded The Defenders. Also, what a colossal waste of Sigourney Weaver.

The Punisher
Much better though maybe too long. I never would have thought of Jon Bernthal for the character, but man, he was awesome in Daredevil Season 2, and also awesome here.

The action is a bit too choppy. I may be spoiled from certain fights in Daredevil. Also, retreading Frank Castle’s family getting killed seemed unnecessary. We already saw that in Daredevil. The Punisher starts with him finishing off the last few people responsible for his family’s death then quickly connects the Kandahar conspiracy to his family’s death. Could the writers not come up with any other motivation? I’m not even opposed to the flashbacks. The scene where Frank reprimands his son on the boat with unnecessary force is a good character moment. It shows Frank as a man full of regret who is constantly on the verge of losing his ****. They can have those moments without connecting the larger story arc of the season to his family’s death again. I hope they are away from that in Season 2.

I didn’t really think the connection between Frank Castle and Karen Page was earned. He saves her a couple times and suddenly she’s willing to stick her neck out for him yet things are weird between her and Matt Murdock. What in the...

The Billy Russo twist was hilariously and poorly telegraphed, and I didn’t even know he’s Jigsaw in the comics.

A bit weird that the FBI would just let Frank Castle walk. He murdered so many people, escaped from prison, then murdered more people, faked his death, admitted to being on a death squad that led to the death of Zubair, just a laundry list of terrible, terrible crimes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on August 23, 2018, 07:06:23 AM
House of Cards - 10/10 it's crazy how corrupt some people are. Oh, what? Nevermind, I was just watching the news. My bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 03, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
Adventure Time: Series Finale.

😣😭😳😖😀😁/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 15, 2018, 09:41:11 PM
Watching last Season's Arrowverse up to the big 4-show Earth X crossover event. I originally bailed on these shows last year after their first episodes because 3 of the 4 completely cheated their previous season finales.

Watching them now, so far I think it's safe to say that Arrow needs to end. This season feels so played-out, so lacking in inspiration. I don't know how it's going to differentiate itself once Batwoman also enters the picture and basically does the exact same show.

Flash feels like it's getting back to the more playful, light-hearted romp it used to be, so I'm happy with where it's going so far.

Legends of Tomorrow feels really inconsistent this season, but like the Flash it still remembers that it started as a fun adventure series and it seems to be toe-ing that line so far. With the return of foes from other shows, it also feels like the show where the most is happening right now.

Supergirl is still fucking intolerable. I gave the first season a pass because it was pretty even-handed with its politics and it eventually grew into its own a bit, but Season 2 is when the show started leaning heavily on the writers' personal politics and Season 3 is going all the way with that. The show constantly makes Trump references, which makes NO sense considering the Supergirl president is an Open Borders woman and Trump doesn't seem to exist at all.  Pretty much every white man is either useless or evil, assuming a man is even on-screen at all (which is rare outside the main cast).  I'm still enduring the first 7 episodes of that show, but so far it feels just as terrible as ever. Ironically, it's also the only Arrowverse show that didn't immediately brush off the events of the previous season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 15, 2018, 11:53:04 PM
Hmm, yeah I am not feeling any of whatever you got there about Supergirl and I get pretty pissed off about that especially when it leads to bad stories. It does a couple of drive-by stabs/jokes but no biggy.

The only thing that is going to bite them in the ass is (near season 3 end)Hank getting rid of their lethal weapons... Both in show and story writing room, its a very wtf trap they have written themselves into poorly. Being the DEO, they aren't the constabulary in the UK where the harshest thing they will encounter is bad accents and the occasional knife where a hello usually de-escalates a situation. They are the local Alien SWAT team/dog catcher, right tools for the job, keeping your options open and all that.

The real problem they have is of weapons security as in they have none and the worse base ever. It feels like every other episode someone would invade the place, usually coming through the giant window in the command centre. Their armouries as no locks, at all. All classes of terrestrial weapons can be found in any of the weapon closets non-partitioned. Everybody and their literal mom walks in and takes a gun. It's an unintentional running joke like it's easir counting who doesn't know who SG/kara is.

Really good super fights that put movies to shame. Having to be concise has done wonders.

Next season (4) will be very telling.

LoT had Obama where they play as a nod, a place of wisdom the characters go to and a joke. Holy **** that Obama care joke had me rolling. Part of it is likely they have better writers with a very loose premise they can play with.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on September 16, 2018, 06:12:38 AM
Supergirl is expected to go more "topical events" for season 4, so i would suggest bailing anyway. The gun control episode in Arrow and Supergirl's constant political jabs take me out of the mood of the show. I wanted to devote more time to games so im dropping Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, Blindspot and not picking up any new ones this season.

Legends is goofy but it openly leans into the goofyness, so some inconsistency is expected. But i have laughed more at the characters and their antics (Mick constantly trying to give Zari a hotdog and not understanding that she doesn't for religious reasons) than with Arrow's characters being inconsistent because the writers deliberately wanted us to sympathise with "New Team Arrow" (which backfired because their behaviour of all three was horrible and childish and caused a lot of the problems themselves).

Fortunately, Black Lightning has a different visual style, filming location and the cast has fantastic chemistry. Jefferson and Lynn have better chemistry as a divorced couple than Oliver/Felicity and Barry/Iris and had only 13 episodes to develop that in. In a way i'm glad BL is it's own show, i'd hate to see how they would try to make that fit into the tone of the Arrowverse.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 16, 2018, 08:30:23 AM
The gun control episode was really stupid and it completely went out of it's way no matter how little sense(none) it made within the show. I was instantly WTF dude, way to completely miss identify the problem. They are going to have to make a forced back pedal and it wasn't like they were shoot first, shoot second, shoot some more and don't bother asking any questions. If anything they were very professional non-American cops.

Everything else didn't move the meter as it was integrated into the story or were passing jabs that were a little funny.

I didn't watch Arrow and Flash as they didn't feel interesting, loaded with fake drama/angst. I like Supergirl as it is cheerful, brightly lit, quite decent action which got better over time, being female centric was interestingly different and it didn't hurt the story.

Legends doesn't care as long as it is funny, within character and the show. They have taken shots at everyone in good humour.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 16, 2018, 09:39:32 AM
Strangely, the gun control episode of Arrow didn't really bother me, as it felt like it tried to show both sides of the issue, and in the end the message wasn't so much "guns are evil and should be banned" as "guns are dangerous and people need to take care of them better." It also led to a very good story beat for Mad Dog.

I was much more bothered by scenes in Supergirl like Maggie's father ranting about how the world hasn't changed because "THEY'RE BUILDING A WALL TO KEEP [MEXICANS] OUT!", a rant that not only brought me out of the show, but also doesn't make sense because Trump isn't the president in the Supergirl universe. They had a whole episode the previous season about their president offering amnesty to literal illegal aliens.

I shouldn't have a better understanding of the Supergirl universe than the writers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 16, 2018, 04:03:23 PM
Yeah, OK the Crisis on Earth X Crossover miniseries event was much better and more cinematic than the previous year's Dominator crossover event. For one thing, there were actual personal stakes this time, not to mention more than generic aliens for the teams to fight.  It also had a fantastic send-off for a particular character that felt earned & not cheap.

Could've done without the Supergirl writers jumping in & adding some meta political commentary with the crew fighting Nazis ("Punching Nazis felt just as good as I felt it would!"), but it wasn't that noticeable and overall the miniseries was quite enjoyable.

I also love that the writers found an excuse to bring Snart back, as he was one of my favorite Flash characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 16, 2018, 06:53:45 PM
They were literal nazis from a parallel Earth...

The Dominator crossover was trash, a complete waste of time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2018, 09:18:23 AM
Oh, so apparently the reason that Kid Flash completely vanished from The Flash after he returned from his "finding himself" journey was that he joined the Legends. You know, it would have been nice if this was actually established IN the Flash itself, rather than the writers just assuming that everyone's simultaneously up to date on every other Arrowverse show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 17, 2018, 01:19:16 PM
I swear there was a throw-away line that "Wally is with the Legends..." or some such.  I'm so burnt out on the DC shows, they're just background noise now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2018, 06:12:09 PM
I swear there was a throw-away line that "Wally is with the Legends..." or some such.  I'm so burnt out on the DC shows, they're just background noise now.

Yeah, I get being burnt out on the Arrowverse. That's where I was last year. That's why I took a year off & am only now catching up on it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2018, 07:06:08 PM
Someone at Warner Bros. thought the Council of Stereotypes...err.. "Council of Wells" was not only a funny gag, but so hilarious that they needed to do it 5 times to pad out various episodes of Flash Season 4.

That person presumably still has a job.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 17, 2018, 08:30:04 PM
Well, part of that is the "comedy" stylings of the writers but I think that's also partly on Tom Kavenaugh. When I was catching up on the Arrowverse after taking a break two years ago, my library happened to have the DVD's of these shows so I decided to catch up again since it had been awhile and the absence and break had helped me get enthused about them again. On the Flash Season 3 DVD extras, they showed a panel they did at Comic-con talking about the upcoming Season 3 at that time and Tom mentioned that he was playing a third Harrison Wells and how he liked getting to play all these alternate versions of a character. He made a line that was a bit of joke but maybe he was semi-serious or the writers decided to take him up on it but he said something about possibly getting to play 100 versions of Wells before the series is over. When seeing the Council of Wells, I couldn't help but recall that remark and wonder if that was his or the writers way of trying to meet that challenge and speed through some various versions to get him to that point. I kind of think it is done to keep Cavenaugh interested in sticking around with the series. Actors do like the chance to play around with different accents and maybe even ham it up a bit on occasion.

I think of Orphan Black and how happy Tatiana Maslany would be when talking about how the show let her play all these different characters and roles and you don't often get the chance to do that in most shows or movies.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 17, 2018, 08:48:11 PM
Finished Flash Season 4. Overall, I thought it was an excellent season. DeVoe was a suitably menacing villain without repeating what the show had already done, and I LOVED having the Elongated Man on this show. He brought a nice energy & playfulness to the show that it's been sorely lacking. I don't really understand why people apparently don't like this season.

I will ask this, though: by FAR the strongest power that DeVoe had was the luck power, and yet he almost never uses it once he has it. I realize you have to give the heroes a fighting chance in a show like this, but every encounter with him should just be over the moment he turns the luck power on. It seems really contrived that they decided his favorite power would pretty much be using the gravity power to force choke people.

I think I'll jump back to streaming the rest of Legends Season 3 now. Not in the mood for yet more Arrow angst just yet.

EDIT: OH YEAH...I chose wisely. "Beebo the God of War" has me in stitches with the sheer absurdity of it all.

EDIT 2: CONSTANTINE! *squee*
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 17, 2018, 11:01:16 PM
I love Darvill/Rip Hunter. He is such an asshole, but the asshole you want and need on your side.... Ava Sharpe is amazing. God damn it Rip, you're one piece of work.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 18, 2018, 12:31:20 AM
I love Darvill/Rip Hunter. He is such an asshole, but the asshole you want and need on your side.... Ava Sharpe is amazing. God damn it Rip, you're one piece of work.

Look, I like Rip but let's get real here...the real star of the show in Legends of Tomorrow is Neal McDonough as Damian Darhk. The dude just gleefully devours the scenery around him & is clearly having the time of his life.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 18, 2018, 04:57:41 AM
Nah, that's just McDonough playing his type, when you hire him that's what you get. Unlike usual he is in a good show with good dialogue. I mean, seriously Legend of Chun Li.

Darvill absolutely sells how much of a bastard he is with that intensity. Not only that he plays different versions of himself convincingly.

That said I love the Legion of losers Doom, the interaction between them far exceed McDonough ham.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 25, 2018, 09:57:23 PM
Finished Season 3 of Legends of Tomorrow. Meh, sadly. This was a really inconsistent season, ending in a finale that was REALLY boring outside of THAT moment. It was also incredibly lame to see this season-long plotline basically end with the Legends summoning Captain Planet (go on, tell me that's not what the summoning sequence looked like).

There were some fantastic comedic moments throughout the season (I LOVE how they paid off that LOTR gag in "Guest Starring John Noble") & I loved getting Damian Darhk back. The show just doesn't seem to know how to stick the landing, and there are multiple characters on the show they just have no idea what to do with. It'll be nice to see the cast get a shake-up this coming season with the full addition of Constantine.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on October 11, 2018, 01:54:31 AM
So I watched through a show called W.I.T.C.H. that was around on Disney for a bit something like a decade ago. It's based off an Italian comic series of the same name (although it takes a lot of creative liberties instead of just being a direct TV adaptation and most of them pay off.)

It's a magical girl show (although it rarely feels too much like one.) that has a really strong cast of characters (along with a heavy focus on developing those characters) and excellent writing. The first season suffers a bit from a rather mediocre villain, a lack of any real stakes until the Elyon plot gets going, and relying too much on monster of the day plots. It feels like they waited about half a season for Elyon to get to Meridian so the show can start getting really interesting. The season 1 finale feels a bit rushed as well but overall it's really strong. This is a show that really has a lot going for it.

For season 2 they ironed out all of season 1's flaws and went all in on telling a single consistent narrative through each episode (apparently Greg Weisman from Gargoyles/Young Justice fame came on board and combining his work with the excellent work from the rest of the show brings some really good results.) and they brought in a really good villain for the season in Nerissa. The show basically keeps topping itself over and over again and peaks at the season 2 finale. While it's unfortunate that the show was canceled after the second season it does mean that W.I.T.C.H peaked at the very last episode and it's really hard not to respect that.

Also the whole thing is on YouTube right now because apparently Disney can't be bothered to take down their decade old shows. There's even a fanmade HD upscaled version. Take a look. (https://youtu.be/GCs42Kp9vJw)

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 12, 2018, 10:29:00 PM
Hot Dayum at Black Lightning S2(?)E1 (newest season)

I think they hired a new choreographer that really wanted to show off what they could do on a CW budget. Action was on point.

Edit:
I finished watching Troll Hunter on Netflix,  all 3 seasons  with my daughter,  and i gotta say,  i really enjoyed it. Animation was good,  the action was good,  characters enjoyable,  and the show was overall just good quality.

Now i gotta convince her to check out The Dragon Prince.  Heard it was very similar to Avatar TLAB.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 25, 2018, 10:06:28 AM
I FINALLY!!!! finished Daredevil S3

I would say easily the best of the Netflix Marvel series start to finish. It's a damn shame the Netflix Marvel couldn't have had this quality from DDS1 through everything that happened before S3, and that Netflix Marvel is likely being cancelled and shifted to Netflix Hulu/Vault. Hopefully the everyone involved not a Netflix exec get to make the transition over to the new home and the story gets to continue.

I know JJ hasn't been "officially" cancelled yet, and we still have The Punisher S2 to look forward to, but I think we all know what's down the line for these series.... and it's not likely Heroes for Hire on Netflix.

But back to Daredevil S3. The Best of the Netflix Marvel series and the DD series as a whole. The action was on point, the one take in ep 4 was amazing, the final fight was satisfying, Dex was crazy accurate and a good counterpoint for Murdoch from a skills standpoint. This was definitely a high point, peaking just above DD S1.

I really hope Disney and/or Netflix keep these shows alive (even if LC and JJ probably need to get some new energy injected into them - yes IF S2 was pretty good and ended in a very interesting place. I wish to see IF continue, but JJ & LC need a retooling w/ some new creative and writing)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 27, 2018, 02:16:18 AM
Well, Goblin Slayer is certainly something!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on October 27, 2018, 08:47:01 AM
JJ is still currently filming, so it won't be cancelled just yet. I have a feeling maybe these two shows will not be cancelled, since Disney can't exactly make them family-friendly, same with Punisher. I bet there plan is to bring Luke Cage and Iron Fist to their streaming service, since those two can be made family-friendly pretty easily.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 27, 2018, 12:36:54 PM
Well, Goblin Slayer is certainly something!

I haven't actually seen this show/cartoon/anime, but I hear its based off some 2ch Dragon Quest meme page.
After reading more about it.... I'm not sure I want to know any more about it. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 27, 2018, 04:15:21 PM
I have a feeling maybe these two shows will not be cancelled, since Disney can't exactly make them family-friendly, same with Punisher.

I'm not so sure. the latest seasons of JJ and DD were both far more family friendly than their predecessors. DD S3* (oops) had no real graphic scenes in it. There was some blood, but it seems they've taken a hugs step back from the explicit gore that littered the first season.

JJ season 2 as well. Season 2 only had one real yucky scene if I recall correctly, and that was the aftermath of mumsy's antics in the back of the van. Season 1 had dismemberment and impalement all through it.   

I think they could easily make them suitable family viewing if they wanted to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on October 28, 2018, 06:37:18 AM
Daredevil S2 had Turk almost getting his foot sawed off by a member of the Hand! Punisher shanks like six prisoners in a hallway!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on October 28, 2018, 03:21:31 PM
Daredevil S2 had Turk almost getting his foot sawed off by a member of the Hand! Punisher shanks like six prisoners in a hallway!

Oops. that was a type.  I means Season 3 lol.  As you correctly mentioned S2 had some quite horrific scenes in it too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on October 29, 2018, 09:38:17 AM
Castlevania

Season 2 was excellent. It wraps up the story of “Castlevania III: Dracula’s Curse” while making some drastic changes namely that Alucard is convinced not to re-enter protracted sleep. To my surprise, Hector and Isaac from “Castlevania: Curse of Darkness” make their debut. They were apparently announced in July. Hector and Isaac fit in a lot better than the game retcon. Their stories are far more fleshed out here. Isaac, in particular, received a dramatic makeover. He’s no longer the that tattooed, sadomasochist weirdo. Hector remains close to Ayami Kojima’s original design though his personality was completely changed. He’s manipulated into betraying Dracula rather than voluntarily leaving out of protest. He ends the season as Carmilla’s slave. If the Netflix series attempts to adapt “Castlevania: Curse of Darkness,” I’ll be interested to see what happens to Hector.

The fight against Dracula in the penultimate episode doesn’t disappoint though Trevor doesn’t do a ton. He has his moments, but the fight is mainly between Dracula and Alucard with the former allowing the latter to stake him through the heart. It works in terms of character arc though it moves “Castlevania” away from being a story about a legendary clan of vampire hunters. I don’t see how any human could stand a chance against this Dracula. Still, the stated goal by the writers was to show Dracula as a tragic figure, and to that end, they succeeded.

The writers did an excellent job of adapting the series while making it their own. While I always look forward to the Death fight in the games, they wisely didn’t bring the character over. Death should be neutral rather than a servant of Dracula, and trying to explain Death probably wouldn’t be worth the fan service. Grant Danasty and his bandana were also cast aside. I was never a fan of the character, and I never felt like he was missing here.

I hope the writers choose not to resurrect Dracula a bunch of times. After addressing the power vacuum in the vampire world after the death of Dracula, none game really lends itself to an adaptation until “Rondo of Blood” and “Symphony of the Night.” Every game in between involves a Belmont walking up to the castle to defeat Dracula. This would mean no Simon. The show has, thus far, not felt like a cash-in. Continually bringing back Dracula would do more harm than good to the story that has been told thus far. Maybe the show just ends before getting to that point. They can maybe try it once.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 29, 2018, 10:42:43 PM
Oooh! S2 of Castlvania dropped? Will have to check it out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on October 30, 2018, 04:44:55 AM
Supergirl was accidentally really funny this week.

J'onn and a Daxamite destroy the family home and sets it on fire, J'onn stops the Daxamite, says YOU ARE SAFE NOW and flies away while their house is still ablaze.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on October 30, 2018, 12:44:23 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Did know she was back on.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2018, 01:06:36 AM
The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina (the teenage witch)

anybody check this out yet? It was actually pretty good.
It's only 10eps long, but I initially started watching it because my daughter wanted to watch it... so I thought I would check out the 1st episode. Several days later, I finished the entire show, and haven't watched a single minute of it with her yet. LOL

There is a reference to Riverdale in the show, so I'm not sure if anyone here watches that show. I know this was put together by someone that was working on Riverdale on The CW, but I'm not sure if the 2 shoes are supposed to be connected in any way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 04, 2018, 03:44:33 AM
RE: Sabrina

No cat, no sale. Salem chewing everyone out is half the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 04, 2018, 11:31:27 AM
RE: Sabrina

No cat, no sale. Salem chewing everyone out is half the show.

Salem is there, but he doesn't talk. At least not in this season of the show there may have been a tease that the familiars can speak, but I'd have to go back and rewatch a specific scene to know for sure. Seems like it may be a 2nd season thing
But then there is Ambrose, member of the fam that's under "house arrest" who also tends to be liberally opinionated and a bit outspoken at times.

I haven't read the comic, and barely remember the old tv show, so I don't remember if there was an "Ambrose" in those versions.

I'll have to say, this show wasn't perfect, but it was entertaining, and I will tune in for a 2nd season.

and speaking of 2nd Seasons, I just finished Castlevania this morning.
This was just renewed for a 3rd season. I'm looking forward to that as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 04, 2018, 09:38:34 PM
The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina: I liked it. It's going on my future to watch list. There was an episode of Fatman on Batman where they joked about how it would be cool if there was a Sabrina that went dark. This is it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 05, 2018, 01:14:44 AM
Legends of Tomorrow is back and stronger than ever. Bear hugging "Is it absurd and fun yet makes sense?". Demonic Unicorn that sprays rainbow coloured LSD, kills people with its horns and eats the victim's heart.

It continues to stay true to "Bunch of **** ups on a time ship" adventures. So far they haven't added some annoying git to lug around for the season. If Constantine is this season's +1 sign me up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 05, 2018, 07:03:32 AM
The Walking Dead S09 E05 - 9/10
Great episode...I actually called that ending (well, not the very ending), but that was pretty great. Keeping Judith around was a great insurance policy by the writers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2018, 08:31:06 AM
The Haunting of Hill House.... (Netflix)

HOLY.****
this is some legit horror in TV format. I just finished ep5 and daaaaamn man. Wow.

There's a lot of time skip back and forth, and it took me a minute to figure out who was who, but it's really well done, and it's more my fault for attempting to multi-task early on.
Give yourself time to get into this one, and I pretty sure you won't be disappointed. But I say this only being halfway though the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 06, 2018, 04:52:47 PM
Sweet, I was curious about that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2018, 01:06:11 PM
Sweet, I was curious about that show.

I'd say more, but I don't really want you to go in expecting anything from anything or anyone in particular.
Cold blind start is the best way to go.
Netflix style of long form story telling of a movie in TV episode chunks works great for this one.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on November 07, 2018, 01:39:01 PM
The Midterm Elections - 6/10
Looks like some of the gooD guys won, but some otheR bad ones did too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 23, 2018, 05:07:49 AM
Not sure about all the complaints about Doctor Who. The episodes are a bit clumsy outright stating the theme a bit like a villain rant at the end of the episode but the underlying premise of each episode is pretty good. Jodie is fantastic, certainly better than Matt Smith.

The companions aren't interesting as individuals but are as a group they are nice. However they aren't kept together often enough for more interactions.

Peak Doctor Who is still Tenant and Tait. OIOIOIOIIIO.

Supergirl: RIP Mercy and Otis. May your god awful editions rest in peace for your namesakes did not deserve this.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU JIMMY. Bloody hell, SHE LOVES YOU THAT MUCH YOU TWIT. That wasn't the time, place or reason to get all high and mighty. Cate Grant needs to come back just to slap you.

I still can't believe they threw SG under the bus by having Johnoss imply that she was being (accidentally)racist in the first episode. WTH.

Manchester Black is cleaning house.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 27, 2018, 01:52:02 AM
Wasn't sure whether to stick this in the TV show or Movie thread, considering how I watched it, but yeah...I finally got around to starting RWBY, a show I've put off seeing for a very long time based on how it visually looked like utter garbage every time I saw it.  However, I stumbled across a BluRay set on Black Friday that had the first 5 Seasons or "Volumes" for $25, so I figured...what the hell?

The series is a series of micro episodes of varying length. The 1st & 2nd volumes let you watch the episodes either individually or strung together as a movie, and so far I highly recommend the latter.

So far, I've watched through the beginning of the 2nd "season/volume", and yeah...I'm onboard with this. The subject matter is as cliche as it comes so far (a bunch of students wanting to become monster hunters with absolutely fucking ridiculous weapons train to do so at an academy), but the show makes it work. The first season looks particularly bad, at some points even worse than the 1st season of Reboot. However, the show has a nice sense of style and energy that manages to cover for that, particularly in the excellently-scripted fight scenes (so far).

I'm a little wary of just how awesome the fight scenes are so far, as they are incredible to watch but they're already trending close to the line of being so over-the-top and elaborately staged that they cross into DBZ territory, where it's just a bunch of noise & flash without stakes or weight. They haven't crossed that line yet and they're damn entertaining, but the guy behind this show was also behind those old Final Fantasy fighting videos on Youtube and that's where those went eventually.

So far, I'm invested and I'm looking forward to seeing where this show goes. It's clearly setting things up for later story arcs.  The 2nd season already looks like it got a noticeable bump in the animation budget, as characters seem higher res now with sharper outlines.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 27, 2018, 05:32:26 AM
I tried RWBY a couple years ago and that was a big no. While I wasn't a fan of the art style that wasn't the problems I had with it. Sort of.

Like you I have problems with the fight scenes which for me crossed the line from the very beginning. There wasn't any substance to it and I just didn't care no matter how much the show insists upon itself. The art style and poorly animated/realised character movement added to the weightlessness. Not that I don't or can't enjoy flash level animation it's just not money level work.

Then there is wasting time. I didn't get very far into season one but I distinctly remember 2 episodes outside of school where nothing happened. Just standing outside of school chatting about nothing. It didn't advance the plot, tell you anything about the characters, or anything, completely vapid.

LOL at the insistence that it's animé, it sure doesn't feel like it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on November 27, 2018, 07:17:42 AM
I tried RWBY a couple years ago and that was a big no. While I wasn't a fan of the art style that wasn't the problems I had with it. Sort of.

Like you I have problems with the fight scenes which for me crossed the line from the very beginning. There wasn't any substance to it and I just didn't care no matter how much the show insists upon itself. The art style and poorly animated/realised character movement added to the weightlessness. Not that I don't or can't enjoy flash level animation it's just not money level work.

Then there is wasting time. I didn't get very far into season one but I distinctly remember 2 episodes outside of school where nothing happened. Just standing outside of school chatting about nothing. It didn't advance the plot, tell you anything about the characters, or anything, completely vapid.

LOL at the insistence that it's animé, it sure doesn't feel like it.

That's why I said I think the show works better as a "movie", with the opening & closing credits removed so the show just keeps moving without the subconscious expectations of an episode.  And yeah, this show REEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAALLY wants to be the mid-2000s Teen Titans when it comes to the whole "American Anime" thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 01, 2018, 11:05:50 PM
So, I've watched all of season 2 & most of season 3 now of RWBY.

Well, I'll give it to the creators: they worked damn hard in the 2nd & 3rd seasons to address to criticisms of the 1st. Season 2 has a marked animation improvement over the 1st season, with higher resolution & more numerous character models. The story also continues the 1st season's task of setting things up to come. However, the fights are still a bit weightless & the story is still a bit slow.

However, holy **** does season 3 take everything WAY up. The character models actually fairly resemble their concept art now, there is a dramatic improvement in lighting; coloring; and effects, there's a much more dynamic camera that often tracks characters through a sequence, and there's actual goddamn weight in the fight scenes.  The show kind of looks gorgeous now, despite some budgetary limitations.

Most importantly, though, **** gets real this season, despite it appearing to start as a tournament arc initially. The plan the villains were setting up in the 1st 2 seasons comes to fruition here & the show finally lets the viewer in on the show's real stakes. Pretty much the entire last hour and a half of the 3 hour runtime is pure win, as utter chaos reigns and the heroes are definitely brought to that fabled "lowest point".

Oohboy, given your issues with the 1st season, you might want to consider jumping straight to the 3rd. Aside from a few minor story beats largely from season 2, there's nothing you can't pick up pretty quickly here.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 02, 2018, 12:11:47 AM
So yeah...RWBY's art in Season 4's improved just a TAD over even the 3rd season. You should even be able to tell from my crappy phone pics of my TV. -_-

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtYvoM2WsAAibSU.jpg:large)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DtYw37zXgAABR0v.jpg:large)

By comparison....Season 1

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/-E6aeUjfBCM/maxresdefault.jpg)

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/GEdJKNcG9_c/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on December 02, 2018, 01:01:37 AM
That doesn't look good to me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 02, 2018, 01:12:39 AM
That doesn't look good to me.

As I said, it loses something in the translation to off-screen camera picture, since Sony prevents share button functionality on the PS4 while watching BluRays and I can't be bothered to find & hook-up my external BluRay drive on my computer; grab screen captures; post them to Twitter; & then link them over here.

Suffice it to say that each season of RWBY has dramatically improved the quality of the art & animation over the previous one. Season 2 added higher definition models, Season 3 added dynamic camera, cleaner models, & better lighting. So far from the hour I've watched of Season 4, it looks like shading was the focus of this season along with redesigning all the models to new character designs.

Direct screen grabs from BluRay.com.

(https://images3.static-bluray.com/reviews/15348_2_large.jpg)

(https://images.static-bluray.com/reviews/15348_15_large.jpg)

(https://images2.static-bluray.com/reviews/15348_18_large.jpg)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 02, 2018, 01:22:41 AM
Looks like they finally caught up with GameCube level graphics.

Considering by your own admission it took until season 3 to get good, that's a hard pass.

Legends: They brought back the animal talisman lady, not really. Shape shifter, same actress. Better character, better acting but not really sure what her function on the show is. If Constantine is the +1, she is more +5. They are literally doing 2 redemption arcs in parallel. They are somewhat different takes between her and Nora with one feeling rather redundant.

The show runners have been pretty good so if it does go bad it would be annoying rather than crash and burn.

Supergirl(The character) is in a really weird place. Kara spends 95% of her time as SG in a story arc where she is just muscle. The story is begging to have Kara use her reporter skills and investigate instead of getting stuffed into death traps. She doesn't really interact with the other characters. The friction with her and Lena isn't there because they don't interact.

lol "This is the DEO".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 02, 2018, 01:37:48 AM
Looks like they finally caught up with GameCube level graphics.

I think your recollection of GameCube-level graphics is a bit rose-tinted, there, outside of maybe Symphonia. :P

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Considering by your own admission it took until season 3 to get good, that's a hard pass.

Well, I wouldn't call Seasons 1 & 2 "bad", per say, but Season 3 is definitely where things got taken up a notch and the show started fulfilling its potential, I'd definitely agree there.  In that sense, I'd say it's pretty similar to just about every Star Trek series.  And given that it only takes a few hours to sit through each of the 1st 2 seasons, I don't think it's that bad a time investment, but oh well. To each their own.

At some point, I'll get back to the Arrowverse shows. I only watched Legends & Flash from last season, along with roughly half of last season's Arrow. I'm finding it increasingly hard to care about those shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 04, 2018, 05:41:13 PM
Legends of Tomorrow - WTF! Say what you want about the inconsistency of the show now, but this episode was totally batshit crazy and setup a very interesting cliffhanger to stop on.

Even Supergirl, which i said i'd drop, has improved so much since the premiere that its really trying to find interesting directions to go into this season (except James, because thats just a drag no matter what happens).
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 05, 2018, 02:00:00 AM
SG S04 premiere was an absolute mess. The season has been ham fisted to the point even cartoon villains would say no. The writing hasn't been good and it is hanging on by a thread.

If they wanted to examine the issue they need to go back to the James's defector. Have James be a reporter and investigate, interview, ask questions. I don't know what he thought he was going to achieve going to Agent Liberty with no plan, no preparation, no backup. Hell, the actor doesn't seem like he wants the job anymore.

John Jones is bad. You would think a shape shifting mind reader would know people better than they know themselves. I don't want to hurt anyone but mentally assaulting someone knowing that it would lead to their death is ok?

Blacks methods are morally wrong but you can't deny the results are satisfying. He is a better detective than the entire DEO(Which is a joke). If it wasn't for Black, snippets of Kara and Lena I would likely have dropped the show. That Lena episode was wow someone knew what they doing.

LOL President losing his **** over a single news paper. Also LOL no knowing SG's identity. Half the DEO knows or has to have figured it out by now.

Oh God NO. A bloody chosen one story line. No, NOOO.

They finally have Kara act a little like a reporter but they throw that under the bus 10 seconds in.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 05, 2018, 02:06:27 AM
Legends of Tomorrow - WTF! Say what you want about the inconsistency of the show now, but this episode was totally batshit crazy and setup a very interesting cliffhanger to stop on.

I just jumped through the previous episode descriptions to figure out where I left off on LoT, and damn this show looks alot more random than I ever remember it being.
I believe I left off a handful of episodes before S2 ends..... should I just start fresh on S3?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 05, 2018, 02:31:12 AM
The real question is do you have a reason not to?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 05, 2018, 04:45:19 AM
SG S04 premiere was an absolute mess. The season has been ham fisted to the point even cartoon villains would say no. The writing hasn't been good and it is hanging on by a thread.

If they wanted to examine the issue they need to go back to the James's defector. Have James be a reporter and investigate, interview, ask questions. I don't know what he thought he was going to achieve going to Agent Liberty with no plan, no preparation, no backup. Hell, the actor doesn't seem like he wants the job anymore.

John Jones is bad. You would think a shape shifting mind reader would know people better than they know themselves. I don't want to hurt anyone but mentally assaulting someone knowing that it would lead to their death is ok?

Blacks methods are morally wrong but you can't deny the results are satisfying. He is a better detective than the entire DEO(Which is a joke). If it wasn't for Black, snippets of Kara and Lena I would likely have dropped the show. That Lena episode was wow someone knew what they doing.

LOL President losing his **** over a single news paper. Also LOL no knowing SG's identity. Half the DEO knows or has to have figured it out by now.

Oh God NO. A bloody chosen one story line. No, NOOO.

They finally have Kara act a little like a reporter but they throw that under the bus 10 seconds in.

I'm trying to give it some leeway. It's an interesting topic and they have a lot of potential to do some interesting things with it. That said, Manchester has easily been the most productive character and got the most things done than everyone else except Lena. I really want them to treat the DEO like the Destiny in SGU, or DS9 itself, how we get to spend time with the seemingly dozens of other characters in the show in that fixed setting. There's a world of opinion and shading there and it would be great to see things from their perspective.

I'm not gonna knock them for trying because they definitely are.

Legends of Tomorrow - WTF! Say what you want about the inconsistency of the show now, but this episode was totally batshit crazy and setup a very interesting cliffhanger to stop on.

I just jumped through the previous episode descriptions to figure out where I left off on LoT, and damn this show looks alot more random than I ever remember it being.
I believe I left off a handful of episodes before S2 ends..... should I just start fresh on S3?

S2 was the start of the upswing. Somewhere around that point they leaned hard into the lunacy of the situation and began developing stories rooted around the situation being stupid like Rory secretly being a writer which this new work allows him to do more freely, rather than going for a serious face like they did in S1.

In season three there's an episode titled Guest Starring John Noble, because why not? They even mocked The AV Club in S4. It's become so gloriously silly that it's actually the only show in the Arrowverse to have a sense of humour.

Black Lightning is still better than the other with the family dynamics and bickering in just 20 episodes, however.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on December 05, 2018, 09:33:35 AM
The LoT runners clearly know who their audience is and they care about them and the show with the skills to back it up. They don't seem to have any top down pressure/committee/focus group or they ignore it.

Like SG, LoT does deal with issues but unlike SG it's clever about it by not making a statement. It's just is, they disarm it with a joke and is well integrated. Nothing is sacred, everything is fodder for good comedy.

lol Movember. That had to be a stab at Superman's mustache fiasco.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on December 05, 2018, 09:07:31 PM
I've now watched Seasons 4 & 5 of RWBY, which finally catches me up to the current season.  Overall, these were great seasons, though they lacked a bit of the emotional kick of season 3.

In fact, Season 4 dials things down quite a bit as following the devastation at the end of season 3 the characters are left wandering the countryside on their own personal journeys.  It's quite a different tone for the show as things slow down and the writing focuses on personal growth & recovering from loss, some mourning the loss of friends; others their loss of identity; and one in particular dealing with losing their arm at the end of the previous season.

This is definitely where the show expands its scope and you get a great deal more of a sense of the world of remnant, and certain characters gain depth they really didn't have before. Also, if you haven't been watching those "World of Remnant" history/world videos, now's a good time to do so because there's a LOT of lore in this world that the main show doesn't really address but which nicely complements and foreshadows events in the actual show.

Season 5 is more of the same, but with the characters finally reaching the show's 2nd major location in Haven Academy there's a lot of sitting around while the elder characters finally revealing the Truth of the prior seasons to the younger ones. This is the 1st season where the episodes have a fixed longer length, around 15-20 minute episodes (leading to a 4 hour season), which means there's a great deal more time for that sort of thing and little character moments. Unfortunately, Season 4 introduced a new character that's not actually a new character, and I hate that they went that route. It really cheapened a major event from Season 3 for me.

That said, the season ends on a strong note with the scattered parties finally reuniting and scoring their 1st actual win against the villains since the 2nd season.  I'm looking forward to seeing where this story goes once all of Season 6 is out.  RWBY's been a welcome surprise these past few weeks, as I've watched an OK show improve to a good show, and finally a great one over the course of the 5 volumes. It's a rough going at first, but I recommend it. I see shades of Avatar: TLA and Harry Potter in its world-building and dedication to improvement and maturation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on December 22, 2018, 06:46:18 PM
Does anyone watch Travelers on Netflix? Season 3 was released and i have some questions. Season 2 ended on a big cliffhanger where 001 revealed to our teams' significant others that they are Travelers, only for the S3 premiere to kill this off by using the memory inhibitor to wipe all their memories. For the one person who remembered things from before the inhibitor took effect, he continued to be a nuisance right up until an incoming Traveler overwrote him anyway. Completely killing the narrative tension of that cliffhanger.

On top of that, they establish the Director has to operate multiple timelines and millions of potential options, so why is it in "our" timeline issues Protocol Omega (an amazing "**** you you're on your own" protocol), the team finds a way to send Mac back to before 001 arrives to tell them to not send 001? How does Mac manage to do that when there's no other teams in place, thus no infrastructure and no way to communicate back to the Director? The show has explicitly said there is multiple timelines but when Mac goes back, wouldnt stopping 001 to go back ultimately wreck the entire timeline thus causing the events of the entire series to have never happened???
Ending the season on what is essentially a gigantic reset button.

The Director feels like a deliberately vague and weaker imitation of The Machine from Person of Interest. POI set up the rules and how the Machine works, gave the Machine character without a voice and functioned according to her own rules. The Director speaks only when it wants, is openly called a dick by other characters for its reasonless-decisions, other characters actively try to assume its decisions for you because it doesn't speak and other people try to counteract its decisions.

For a show that actively has set protocols as to how the teams should function, the Director has none and that wishy-washyness allowed for all of my issues with this season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 29, 2018, 05:54:55 AM
went through a few shows recently.

Titans - DC Universe
haven't finished the last 2 episodes just yet, but overall, the show ain't half bad.
It's grim dark moody action drama, but the action is pretty well done and the show is interesting.
Almost everything I know about the majority of DC's characters is from the cartoons, so I can't speak to how "comic accurate" some of these portrayals are (I like Teen Titans and TTGo), but this show managed to hold my attention, and I came in expecting to hate it. LOL


Runaways S2 - Hulu
I think overall this was a much better season than the 1st one. I burned though this whole season starting last night all the way through early this evening. (beauty of multi-tasking while working from home). There was some good developments, and even a few badass moments in this one, specifically for Niko Minoru. You just gotta remember that for as smart as some of these kids are, they are still a bunch of stupid ass highschool kids that don't know what they are doing, and it shows. Looking forward to S3


Black Mirror: Bandersnatch - Netflix
Not this was a unique thing that Black Mirror and Netflix developed here. This is a Choose Your Own Adventure episode where you actually click choices on the screen to progress the story when prompted. Apparently there are several ending, and quite a few alternate paths you can take to see all the content shot for this one.
This format will probably be a new hook for Netflix, since it seems to be kinda un-bootleg-able through other streaming sites. You will have to subscribe to Netflix to experience this one.
You can definitely have a little fun with the story in this one, such as a very unexpected action sequence among other surprises LOL.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 31, 2018, 01:06:39 AM
Big Mouth - Netflix

O.M.G. WTF is this show. LMAO
about the age of puberty in some middle schoolers lives. The humor in this is very in your face and extremely raunchy. VERY NSFW and do not watch this with kids. This cartoon is so over the fucking top, but honestly it's actually pretty damn funny.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on December 31, 2018, 01:12:28 AM
Bandersnatch was a very cool concept, but it completely left me wanting more. There's one character that seems to understand the rules, which are kinda Zero Escape-like, but it's never really explored. That's Black Mirror's MO though, so I should've expected it. The meta references were a bit much for me. Despite complaints, I had a lot of fun with it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on December 31, 2018, 02:56:00 AM
Bandersnatch makes me want the whole genre.

in 7th-8th grade I taught myself how to program BASIC and have always enjoyed these games. The previous 2 years I had been pretty into Goosebumps and was really into the Choose your own adventure genre.

There were PC and some Sega CD type games like this in the past, but they were never Netflix production quality.

The closest to this recently that I played were Hidden Object games which were a bit of a guilty Pleasure.


I feel like I could write an Epic Choose Your Own Adventure Screenplay. I organize my movie shelf by Sub-Genre.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 02, 2019, 11:43:30 PM
A few days later and I'm still thinking about Bandersnatch. I fell asleep watching a PBS Space Time show on youtube that verged into talking about alternate realities.  What a rabbit hole.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 03, 2019, 02:30:38 AM
The Masked Singer. What a way to create interest through suspense and mystery.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on January 17, 2019, 10:01:31 PM
Star Trek Discovery Season 2 Episode 1

Unlike some people I enjoyed the first season of Star Trek Discovery, so I was excited to see how the next one would go, and based on how tonight's episode went I'm cautiously optimistic that the show's going to feel more like traditional Star Trek going forward. There's still going to be a season-long arc, but it seems like more of an open-ended one that involves a lot of exploration, as opposed to the war-heavy first season. It also doesn't seem to be rushing things, which I felt was the main problem with season 1. The new additions to the crew seem pretty interesting, especially Tig Notaro's character, and although having Chris Pike take over as captain may be a little bit too fan-servicey, he's doing a good job and seems to lighten the mood more than his predecessor.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 18, 2019, 10:05:55 AM
Sex Education is pretty hilarious so far.

Season 2 of The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel was also good though maybe two or three episodes too long. They could have cut a couple in the middle.

Finally caught up in Agents of Shield. Season 4 was significantly better than Season 3. The first half of Season 4 with Ghost Rider was much better than the Life Model Decoy arc. Aida getting Inhuman powers and teleporting with away with Fitz was legitimately the first time I felt genuinely shocked by this show in a while. She was kind of a wasted opportunity otherwise. I didn’t really buy her character arc. They could have done so much with that character instead she was all, “Fitz doesn’t love me! Rrrrraaaaaagggggggeeeeee!!!!” Some of the writing was especially bad particularly when referencing current events. At one point, Coulson said “alternative facts” which was all the cringe.

Season 5 was odd but not bad like Season 3. It felt low budget and kind of soap opera-y. It was pretty ballsy what they did with Talbot, but it just didn’t play out that well. Overall, Agents of Shield just got really cheesy with some of the ridiculous villains and the excessive shipping. Apparently, Coulson is a goner and if so, I’m kind of wondering what the point of this show is. Not sure of the timing, but I’m hoping it was merely an explanation so Clark Gregg would be available to film his scenes for Captain Marvel. Then again, Avengers: Endgame may have some time travel aspects that could “reset” Agents of Shield. I believe Season 6 premiere in Summer 2019, notably after Avengers: Endgame.

Season 3 of Better Call Saul was a delight. It’s nice seeing some of the pieces beginning to fall into place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 18, 2019, 11:29:49 AM
I'm pretty sure Alternative Facts was a reference to current real life situation (precursor to Fake News) .
Some things may be lost when not watched in the moment of relevancy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 18, 2019, 12:05:08 PM
I'm pretty sure Alternative Facts was a reference to current real life situation (precursor to Fake News) .
Some things may be lost when not watched in the moment of relevancy.
I know. I literally said that. It’s cringy that the writers put it in the script, felt cheap as far as attempting to eliciting a reaction from viewers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on January 19, 2019, 12:08:58 AM
STD: Still really bad. Should have called episode one "We blew up the budget".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 20, 2019, 09:55:26 AM
Currently on Season 2 Episode 4 of The Punisher. Is there any reason why no one immediately washes their hands and face after getting someone else’s blood on them?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 21, 2019, 02:26:02 AM
I posed that exact question in another forum.  I guess it's just the in thing to grab some kip whilst covered in blood and goodness knows what else.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 21, 2019, 12:52:17 PM
If he doesn't spend half the episode covered in blood, how are we supposed to know how bad ass he is?.

Anyone can repeatedly bash a man's skull in with a 30 pound weight.  It takes Frank freakin' Castle to do it and wear the man's blood for the next three weeks.

Christ, it's like you people know nothing about projecting tone to your audience.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 22, 2019, 11:42:37 AM
Alternative Facts is an actual Kellyanne Conway term, not Fox News.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BranDonk Kong on January 22, 2019, 11:43:07 AM
Punisher is great...about to start episode 9.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 27, 2019, 11:49:53 PM
**VERY VAGUE THE PUNISHER S2 SPOILERS AHEAD**

Currently on Season 2 Episode 4 of The Punisher. Is there any reason why no one immediately washes their hands and face after getting someone else’s blood on them?

ok.... I'm towards the end of S2E1 and if you are trying to be a little incognito, why wouldn't you take 3 seconds (you are in the bathroom.... and I think there was a working sink left. LOL) to atleast wipe the blood from your nose/face so that you don't immediately stand out in that crowded environment.

p.s. that knife kill... you know which one I'm talking about... O_o
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kaijugamer on February 18, 2019, 01:25:48 AM
I lowkey enjoy The Good Place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 18, 2019, 09:45:55 AM
The Dragon Prince

Binged Season 1 last week then binged all of Season 2 on Saturday. S2 is better from a narrative standpoint since most of the world building was out of the way. The animation is excellent. My brother said they skip frames though I didn’t notice.

The show really leans in with respresentation. There’s a black king, two interracial relationships including a lesbian couple, a mute female general with subordinates who just know and use American Sign Language. No one in this world questions any of that. As a non-white person, I like seeing representation in works of fiction. There were fleeting moments when I thought some of it felt forced. I wondered if I felt that way because I’m so used to not seeing representation. What does that say about our culture? What does that say about me?

One of my complaints about The Legend of Korra was the ending didn’t feel earned. Korra and Asami were suddenly shipped and it felt forced. I thought that was a disservice to the LGBTQ+ community even though the reaction was largely positive because at least the creators did something. It felt like token representation at the 11th hour which was weird because the best character by far in Avatar: The Last Airbender was blind. The Dragon Prince pulls no punches. Representation just is now and the creators tell the audience to simply deal with it which I think is a better way.

Anyway, The Dragon Prince dumps a lot of exposition in the beginning of S1. The story itself was fairly generic at first though it got significantly better. The writers upend expectations several times. Rayla doesn’t tell Callum something important so when Callum finds out from someone else, he’s initially upset. One would think this would lead to a big fight between Callum and Rayla except when Callum has to tell his younger brother the same news, he can’t bring himself to do it for the same reason Rayla couldn’t. What could have devolved into the most generic misunderstanding in fiction turned into a really great character moment between the two. That’s just great writing.

Still, the writers occasionally shoehorn memes into the dialog, and I found that to be more distracting than anything. The villain is kind of a caricature. I hope they give Viren more depth in S3 because he’s trending toward mustache twirling territory. Anyway, I’m pretty invested now and the seasons are short enough to get through pretty easily.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 08, 2019, 09:12:39 AM
Russian Doll

Natasha Lyonne plays one character: Natasha Lyonne. I don’t think i’ve ever seen her try to play a different character. She was Natasha Lyonne in Orange is the New Black, and Nikki was my favorite character in that show. Unfortunately, that show became too absurd to keep watching. Natasha Lyonne is good at playing Natasha Lyonne-like characters, and she should keep playing Natasha Lyonne in things.

I originally wasn’t that interested beyond liking Natasha Lyonne as Natasha Lyonne. I really like that Bill Murray joint, Groundhog Day, and outside of Majora’s Mask, I haven’t seen anything do something unique with the concept (EDIT: I really like Edge of Tomorrow/Live.Die.Repeat). I kept hearing good things about Russian Doll, and since my life isn’t that interesting, I decided to give it a shot.

Russian Doll does a very good job establishing the rules of the reset. Nadia Vulvokov has to die to reset the day except she always goes back to the night of her birthday when she’s in the bathroom with “Gotta Get Up” by Harry Nilsson playing. Her friend always says, “Sweet birthday baby!” to her when she walks into the kitchen. That repetition is good world building (which admittedly borrows a lot from Groundhog Day). When it doesn’t happen, it’s immediately noticeable. Additionally, Nadia can make it to the next day and the day after, but she always seems to die or some force is causing her death to trigger a reset.

Groundhog Day wisely did not try to explain why Phil Connors was trapped in a loop. There’s no time for that in a 90 to 100 minute movie. In a show, it works really well for Russian Doll. Nadia trying to figure out what is causing the loop is a fun part of Russian Doll. The show does some pretty interesting things with the time loop concept such as Nadia meeting another person trapped in the same loop, separating them into different loops where the other person is “non-looped” and never experienced a loop etc. It even acknowledges the possibility of multiple universes where the world continues after Nadia was violently killed in some freak accident (not a spoiler, Nadia has a realization that this might be happening). The concept of time loops are really cool to me. As a side bar, I recommend this five minute short film, One-Minute Time Machine (https://youtu.be/vBkBS4O3yvY).
The troubled relationship between Nadia and her mother is a bit cliche though Chloë Sevigny does her best to make Lenora more than a bad mother trope. That’s my only real knock against Russian Doll so far. Alan is kind of grating, but I think that’s the point. Dascha Polanco just isn’t a very good actress so I don’t know how she keeps showing up in things. She is thankfully not in Russian Doll a lot though she’s in a couple really important scenes. There’s definitely going to be another season. However, I hope the writers wrap it up after the third season, if not the second. While I like a lot of what’s going on here, I don’t want it to overstay its welcome.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 14, 2019, 02:03:39 AM
I am not sure what the writers of Supergirl is getting at but they seem to have dumped the copy of Supergirl which has a total screen time of about a minute. They somehow managed to release a serial killer.

Worse of all I am in total agreement at this point of what the Elites are going murking all these people who are ridiculously guilty of genocide. Yet we are somehow expected to follow the Rule of Law which I am super big on which doesn't exist in the Supergirl world with alphabet agencies, groups and people running around doing whatever while moralising.

Bloody breaking up Lena and Olsen again. They have the most interesting relationship in the show and they break it with the same reason they used earlier. This isn't the trope where two people getting together their story ends, they is so much going for them.

Its still watch-able despite the show not knowing what the **** it wants to do with hack writers garbage drama. Kara not Supergirl gives it a bit of fun, funny and something cleverish where she has to play dumb while helping everyone. Also the Elites murking all these people. Menagerie just came out of nowhere though so err yeah.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 17, 2019, 11:30:18 AM
Aggretsuko - Netflix

My daughter discovered this cartoon. about a little Red Panda (Sanrio created like Hello Kitty) who works at an accounting firm and absolutely hates her job, but does her best to hide it.
There's a handful of very interesting characters in this, an office full of all sorts of different animals all with very distinct personalities, such as her Dept manager the Big angry Pig and the Slithering Snake lady, but I think my favorite crazy character outside of the main Retsuko, has to be Fenneko the unassuming Instagram Slueth.
I can't pinpoint her animal type, but damn, talk about crazy. LOL

I didn't actually expect to like this show, as I just thought it was weird for the first few episodes, but characters start to grow on you, especially once you realize how they represent the different aspects of that corporate culture and the types of people you are bound to meet.

But I have to say that the musical theme and form of stress release for Retsuko for this show, is DEATH METAL, and despite that, there are some good lessons shown in here.

Long story short, I actually look forward to season 2.
but if it wasn't for my daughter insisting on that cartoon, I would have never made it past the first 2 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on March 21, 2019, 03:58:27 AM
A surprise strong episode. Lex shows up played by John Cryer. I never knew he had it in him. After seeing him in 2 and half men for so long I didn't think he could act beyond that show. Being mostly a Lena episode is a treat.

Err what? Manchester Black? That was your plan??
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 29, 2019, 06:12:47 PM
Haven't watched an actual anime series in a while. Just haven't been in the mood. However, one of my favorite anime series of all time, Full Metal Panic, got its LOOOOOOOOONG-awaited 4th season, Invisible Victory (Get it?), last year. I never got around to seeing it since I was waiting for the home video release with the English dub. Well, that BluRay release finally came out this week, so I finally checked it out.

Yeah, it's pretty damn good, and it's good to see a semi-gritty anime mecha show again after 13-14 years since the last season, The Second Raid. In a curious move, this season is a DIRECT sequel to the 2005 previous season, with absolutely no time spent catching newcomers up on the premise of the series, Sosuke & Kaname's relationship, Mithril, Amalgam, Arm Slaves, Lambda Drivers, Whispereds, the events of The Second Raid, etc. If you didn't see the previous seasons, you'd better get on that. Hell, it's been so long since Second Raid, I didn't remember some of the newer characters from that season.

The 12 episode season is broken up into roughly 3 arcs: Amalgam's assault on Mithril; Sosuke's globe-trotting in the aftermath; and the resulting raid on an Amalgam base. The 1st & 3rd arcs are generally well-paced and move the story forward considerably from The Second Raid, but the middle arc feels really out of left field and doesn't feel like it approaches having a point till near the end.

Quite possibly the most frustrating thing about this series is that the fans waited 13-14 years for this thing (depending on the region), and this still isn't the conclusion to the story. There are still 3 or so of the original light novels to adapt, and there isn't any indication that's going to happen just yet. This show's changed studios twice already, and it looks like it probably will again now that Xebec's been sold to Sunrise.

That said, there's certainly a big "well, it's about time" element to the finale long-time fans will appreciate. Tessa, the submarine captain, also gets plenty of screentime to show what a complete and utter badass she is despite being this small, frail teenage girl. Chris Paton & Luci Christian are still absolutely pitch-perfect as Sosuke and Kaname, but unfortunately this season doesn't give them much to do together and Kaname spends a huge portion of the season mired in depression and self-pity. It gets a bit tiresome.

I realize it's probably not the most interesting write-up on the show, but I'm trying to avoid spoilers since this is a series I highly recommend if you've never seen it and has shifted tone a LOT over the course of the existing 4 seasons. What started as this fish-out-of-water comedy with occasional gritty mecha fights shifted to screwball comedy in Season 2, then deathly serious drama in Seasons 3 & 4. Hopefully, we get Season 5.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 07, 2019, 10:45:54 PM
The 1st half of My Hero Academia's 3rd season hit BluRay today, so I finally got to see it.

I give it 10 viewings of "United States of SMASH" out of 10.

God, I love this show. It just "gets" superhero stories on a fundamental, human level. And THAT is how you end an epic plot thread that completely changes the circumstances of a show's universe.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on May 07, 2019, 11:06:36 PM
And THAT is how you end an epic plot thread that completely changes the circumstances of a show's universe.
I've been hounded to watch this show. I've been putting it off. This is quite an endorsement. You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 07, 2019, 11:14:59 PM
And THAT is how you end an epic plot thread that completely changes the circumstances of a show's universe.
I've been hounded to watch this show. I've been putting it off. This is quite an endorsement. You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.

I'm a really hard person to please, especially these days when it comes to superhero stories. But My Hero Academia understands that the emotional core of superhero stories lies in people pushing themselves beyond their limits to make the world a better place, and to inspire others to have hope for the future.

The show is by no means perfect. There's some formulaic, Naruto-esque trope work in there. But when push comes to shove, the show knows how to deliver to its emotional core and above all not waste your time. It's consistently the most "fun" I've had watching anime lately. I just wish the show wasn't released at such a slow pace if you're waiting for the English dubbed BluRays.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 08, 2019, 02:33:46 AM
Supergirl Season 4 second half:

The second half is doing good. That first half was dire, I was almost ready to quit. They have come back to having characters rather than thing with a assigned superficial attribute. The plot has meat now, a lot smarter. Good focus on Lex, as much as I want more of him they are not overplaying him and John Cryer while I was initially hesitant on his take had me on board pretty quickly. His Red Sun intro was sharp,nothing wasted.

I love the increased focus on Kara and Lena(Always MVP), great interactions, less Supergirl doing pointless punchman. Kara through out the series had been so under utilised, not much more than vapid girl talk, it was like they forgot she is a reporter or a person.

I gets a little RAHRAH AMERICA, it's tolerable as it doesn't last long and has a narrative reason.

The villain this season started as this one dimensional thing despite an entire episodes devoted to who he was and who he turned into felt so forced he was just as 1D as before. Finally after taking a break from him, we have come back more developed, see him become deranged not realising he is fucking everything up, how everything bad that is happening to him is all on him, he did this to himself.

Seriously WTF happened to cause this turn around? The first half was bad, Manchester Black while not a dead end the conclusion was a Krusty "What the hell was that"? They were throwing characters under the bus for things they didn't do or with absurd out of character and narrative context. The plot was spinning it's wheels, tiresome, Supergirl put in death traps, plot points introduced last season actively ignored or playing out poorly.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
Happy!

Is anyone watching this drunk acid trip of a show?
Holy ****. Season 1 was entertaining and crazy, S2 so far has been absolutely off the wall WTF!? LOL

I mean all of that in a good way.
all sorts of what the **** am I watching moments in this show and I'm loving it.
It's gruesome, twisted, disgusting, maniacal and senseless throughout so many moments of the show.
If you haven't already checked it out, and looking for something way outside the box of usual shows, give this one a shot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on May 09, 2019, 10:02:11 AM
Season 1 was a lot of fun! I'm not usually into gross out humor, but this manages to walk a fine line. Christopher Meloni  is fantastic in it as well. His facial expressions are top notch.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 09, 2019, 12:10:27 PM
S2 is more of S1 but turned up to 11. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 14, 2019, 04:19:50 AM
SG: Giving grass to a Kryptonian makes them better. Yeah, sure. Rest of the episode was pretty good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on May 16, 2019, 07:47:02 AM
I don't watch Game of Thrones, bounced off it right from the first episode. Gotta say, the creators completely destroying the show is an amazing sight. 8 seasons rendered entirely into BS, jumping the shark like so many famous franchises into infamy. The level of creative bankruptcy and laziness is astounding.

Star Wars is already dead and still I can't stop laughing that these guys are going to "create content" there.

The dumpster fires warm the cold winters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 25, 2019, 08:00:30 PM
I was trying to get caught up on Agent of SHIELD last night, but kept falling asleep.
I tried a second and 3rd time really early this morning when I won't up, but couldn't stay awake.

So this afternoon, I decide to ipick up where I last left off, and as soon I finished the episode, this is what HULU showed me....
(https://i.imgur.com/XMyI9mO.jpg)

W(hen)TF did that happen!? I know it kept showing more episodes of stuff when I kept dozing off, but did I really miss a yet to be aired episode of AoS that comes on next week? really Hulu, quick fucking with me. and it will not let me play it again. No idea who the character in the screenshot for Ep3 is, but I would've said the same thing yesterday for the character in the screenshot of Ep2 as well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 27, 2019, 05:26:14 AM
I was finally able to watch S6E3 of AoS.... was I a week further behind than I thought?
Or did they drop an extra episode early?

Did the extra episode not show up till Saturday because Hulu is always a day behind?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 27, 2019, 10:16:31 PM
Babylon 5, Farscape, and Andromeda are all on Amazon prime.  I've been meaning to watch these for years.

I watched the first episode of Babylon 5. The space CG has aged horribly, but overall it seems pretty interesting. It's basically the same thing as DS9 with lesser production values. The makeup is pretty good though. It's charmingly 90s too. There was some pillows on a couch in Vir's quarters that looked like they could be in Zach Morris's bedroom.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: kaijugamer on May 31, 2019, 04:36:21 AM
I've watched an animated-series Hilda on Netflix and it's good. I feel like I'm watching a comicbook.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 03, 2019, 05:48:40 AM
AoS: They gave them money this season.

I am at OK with this season, I mean compared to last season it should win awards or something. Who knew a show would need more than a pack of gum to be good. You can have things happen, more than 3 people in a room, go outdoors. The ending to last season was embarrassing.

So far it has been silly in a good way. The Fritz/Daisy/Simmons story line has been an absolute drag until they got to the Casino (Planet /j) where they start having some fun. The Doctor is really killing it with the best WTF is this reactions.

I can't remember what the deal is with the lay lines but whatever.

Man I would have dumped someone that vapid in a heart beat. I would ICE her if I had the chance. Agent man is doing you a favour, take it. Good on you for caring, losing your survival instincts.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 10, 2019, 03:53:13 AM
I finally got around to watching the Haunting of Hill House. It was pretty good. The last episode of the first season is a bit of a drag though.  Not depressing, just boring.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 10, 2019, 06:50:35 PM
I finally got around to watching the Haunting of Hill House. It was pretty good. The last episode of the first season is a bit of a drag though.  Not depressing, just boring.

Yeah, the last episode was a total shift in tone that was real let down. It was like we weren't watching a horror show anymore. Even though the "big reveal" was a nice whoa moment, it just fell flat with how they ended it. Was hoping for a season 2 with a new setting where we could get more horror, maybe themed after the other ghost stories the oldest son wrote about, but guessing we won't be seeing that anytime soon since there has been no word in a long while.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on June 10, 2019, 07:44:38 PM
The Netflix app show page says they'll be returning for 2020. So the show will be back, but I don't know any other details. I'd rather it be another family because this family seems resolved.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on June 10, 2019, 11:42:55 PM
Agreed. I was just hoping for a loose connection and the author angle seemed the most logical to relate in a tangential way.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 22, 2019, 06:42:31 PM
Agents of SHIELD S6E6

O.M.G. LMAO
this was quite the filler episode, but that ending... HAHAHA OMG, I did not see that coming.
This is a FitzSimmons Episode. Those are always good episodes. This one did not disappoint.

Basically Fiz and Simmons get trapped in a mind meld against their will, and forced to access each others memories in hopes that they together can solve the equation for time-travel. Simmons tries to hold back, but secrets get revealed, past suppressed memories surface and chaos ensues as they are forced to figure out how to deal with all it. ....*heavy hint towards big moment in episode ahead*in the midst of working out their issues, they came to the realization that some issues tend to work themselves out. for better or for worse. LOL

oh.... "and you're a Grandfather!!"

you gotta love these two.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 23, 2019, 01:19:13 AM
I love a good Leopold.

Their episodes are unusual in that they are good regardless of how terrible the season might be. I wonder if the actors are involved in the writing. Great actors can only do so much if the script is trash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Shorty McNostril on June 23, 2019, 02:13:40 AM
You have to wonder why they still need filler episodes despite being only a half length season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on June 23, 2019, 02:45:51 AM
That's because it's not. You can't bring them back together and act like nothing happened. It's more of a pacing issue. They have been rushing so when they did slow down it became very noticeable. They did spend too much time on the freighter.

Everyone knows FitzSimmons is carrying a lot of the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on June 25, 2019, 09:29:33 AM
Having watched it, it is arguably filler but not really really because FitzSimmons is the the pair which most of the show relies upon emotionally.

Most shows with any form of domestic arguments going on i tend to mentally click off, but i watched these two shout at & over each other with genuine warmth and irritation while being totally engaged.

I'm still really disappointed at the way how the show forgot about Joey from seasons ago after he just "i'm done i'm out!" and walked off
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on July 21, 2019, 12:35:39 AM
During the recent spat of online sales, I picked up a handful of series on BluRay that I'd just never gotten around to seeing, including the original Star Trek series (yes, I've seen some episodes of it, but not most of it and certainly not the remastered versions); the Adam West Batman series; and the subject of this post, Samurai Jack.


I'm only 5 episodes into Samurai Jack's 1st season so far, but it's certainly one of the stranger series I've seen in a while. I kind of loathe the 3-part opening story, which is jarring; kind of boring; and so visually busy that the show's watercolor art style actually comes off pretty ugly. Thankfully, after the 3-part pilot, the show has settled down into the kind of show I was expecting coming in, and the backgrounds are much simpler and less distracting.

The BluRay transfer is not spectacular so far, as there are often times where this looks like an upscale, although with the show's art style that can be hard to tell for sure. I'm enjoying what I've seen so far, but the show feels like it hasn't quite locked into its groove yet, like it wants to be serialized AND episodic without committing to anything. Typical 1st season kinks.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on July 28, 2019, 02:11:48 AM
Stranger Things 3 thoughts:


Hopper better not be dead!
Billy went out a hero, good for him
Did it feel like there were too many characters this season? Everyone had to have a few little scenes.
Joyce's love life keeps getting screwed over.
Can Steve catch a break? Didn't get to go to college, strike two in his love life, now working a string of dead end jobs...
Speaking of, Nancy seems like she should have went to college.
As someone who was a kid in the 80s, those egaggerated bowl cuts the boys were sporting were out of style by 1985.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on July 31, 2019, 05:33:08 PM
The Boys

As expected, there are many try-hard, edge-lord scenes. If they toned those down just a little bit (dial it from an 11 to maybe a 7), the show would be better for it. To its credit, there aren't as many I thought there would be based on the trailers.

There's a whole subplot where they try to humanize a rapist. Not sure where that's going. I wasn't really feeling it.

This isn't the first time I've seen superheroes breaking bad so The Boys hasn't shown me much I haven't seen before. The show doesn't always seem to follow its own rules. There's a scene in which Translucent, a character with impenetrable skin, has C4 inserted rectally and the C4 detonated, splattering his guts everywhere. If he has impenetrable skin, shouldn't the explosion been largely contained by his skin? Maybe I missed something.

Most of the actors are good to great. Laz Alonso is low-key excellent. Simon Pegg with an American accent is weird and off-putting (his performance is good). Stay for Karl Urban. Best part of the show by far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 31, 2019, 11:02:21 PM
Adrock:  Guardians of the Galaxy 2 explains the flawed logic of your spoiler.  I have cut him from the inside!!!  You are right, but writers almost never think of logic like that when you can have a gruesome joke death like you described.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 08, 2019, 04:01:46 PM
Is anyone watching Another Life on Netflix?

It has several connections to Stargate Universe, except this is far far more stupid.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 13, 2019, 12:31:22 AM
The Boys

As expected, there are many try-hard, edge-lord scenes. If they toned those down just a little bit (dial it from an 11 to maybe a 7), the show would be better for it. To its credit, there aren't as many I thought there would be based on the trailers.

There's a whole subplot where they try to humanize a rapist. Not sure where that's going. I wasn't really feeling it.

This isn't the first time I've seen superheroes breaking bad so The Boys hasn't shown me much I haven't seen before. The show doesn't always seem to follow its own rules. There's a scene in which Translucent, a character with impenetrable skin, has C4 inserted rectally and the C4 detonated, splattering his guts everywhere. If he has impenetrable skin, shouldn't the explosion been largely contained by his skin? Maybe I missed something.

Most of the actors are good to great. Laz Alonso is low-key excellent. Simon Pegg with an American accent is weird and off-putting (his performance is good). Stay for Karl Urban. Best part of the show by far.

I enjoyed the **** out of this show.

I thought the same thing about the spoiler, but maybe the impentrability was a one way thing.
As for the sub-plot. I saw it as them giving him a taste of his own medicine. They humbled his ass and put him on the receiving end of his own bullshit. I smirked when that chick forced him down and fingered his "slits" forcefully.

overall I'm really looking forward to a season 2.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on August 21, 2019, 01:22:35 AM
Full Metal Panic IV: Invisible Victory

If you like FMP why are you still reading this, go watch it.

Most fans like the second season. For me I have found it to be the bottom of equals. However FMP is a strange beast where every season are all equally good. While each are different they have a consistent high level of quality. The flaws and cons mostly comes down to personal preference due to the kind of stories one might want.

IV is very Sagara focus. This is the primary reason of how much you will like this. This focus does come with a cost however somewhat mitigated by introducing new likeable characters, better villians and how they use Sagara preventing him from being a Mary/Gary Stu that are frequently found in many other shows of this type. My dislike of the Sagara focus is not because Sagara is bad, it's how much time it cuts into other characters.

I would love to see more Tessa (That S1 moment is amazing) and Chidori (Fun Sagara abuse) but the story doesn't disallows it hence is the need for new characters. With so many characters this can become a flaw as ones personal favourites time is cut into.

I definitely recommend it to others and previous seasons are required watch if you want to get the most out of it.

Sword Art Online: Alicization

Quite a lot better and the Big Bad once we finally met them by the end is something else and quite the treat on all levels.

Kirito power has been striped down, mellowed out without suppression, is far more of a character and gets development. He still gets quite powerful but he isn't soloing encounters nor winning just with force or any at all.

The rules of the "Game" is establish like before but it does play a bit loose with them at times leading to some level of dissatisfaction.

Visually stunning as always.

Gets a recommendation.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 26, 2019, 04:09:07 PM
GLOW Season 3

Just finished it over the weekend. I was excited to see how much the show would change with the change in locale from the end of season two. There was a bit less wrestling this season (at least it felt like it). The show is still as funny as it has been, but there's more heavy-handedness this season.  There's a six month time skip during one of the episodes that I wasn't a huge fan of. It just felt like a lot of story lines were left to simmer, especially after an episode about spicing things up. It made sense for one of the main characters, but it came at a time when the focus seemed to be split amongst the cast. The season felt like mostly character moments with some characters and relationships developing a bit. While I kinda wish the show could've spent more time in it's status quo, the ending had me excited for where things go from here. I hope Netflix keeps it going.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on September 02, 2019, 12:00:27 PM
Anyone watching Power S6?

two episodes in for season 6 and this about sums it up

(https://i.imgur.com/2TbBATi.jpg)

tension so thicc you not even man enough to approach it. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 03, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
The Boys

As expected, there are many try-hard, edge-lord scenes. If they toned those down just a little bit (dial it from an 11 to maybe a 7), the show would be better for it. To its credit, there aren't as many I thought there would be based on the trailers.

There's a whole subplot where they try to humanize a rapist. Not sure where that's going. I wasn't really feeling it.

This isn't the first time I've seen superheroes breaking bad so The Boys hasn't shown me much I haven't seen before. The show doesn't always seem to follow its own rules. There's a scene in which Translucent, a character with impenetrable skin, has C4 inserted rectally and the C4 detonated, splattering his guts everywhere. If he has impenetrable skin, shouldn't the explosion been largely contained by his skin? Maybe I missed something.

Most of the actors are good to great. Laz Alonso is low-key excellent. Simon Pegg with an American accent is weird and off-putting (his performance is good). Stay for Karl Urban. Best part of the show by far.

I wouldn't call The Deep a rapist, he used his power to get sex in a really sleazy meetoo way but he didn't physically force her to do anything. He gave her the choice. Everything she did was because she wanted to be part of the group. She could have said no and went her separate way. Not quite the same thing. It's still a shitty thing to do, but not quite the level of rape. There should be another name for it. He's definitely a sleazy pervert. That towney girl show who shoved her fingers in his gills is a rapist though. He said no

As far as Translucent goes. Good call. He could have been a floppy shell with real physics. Though we can only rely on the cartoon physics presented to us. His skin must only be strong from the outside. Or that the gigantic amount of co2 produced from the explosion stretched his skin to its limits. Cell phones are scratch resistant, but they shatter when you drop them. Some weird physics stuff happen. I don't remember...did they try spraying him with acid? I bet that would have worked too. This is like trying to figure out how the flux capacitor works on Back to the Future.

Also he was definitely not shock resistant. They could have directly plugged a cathode and anode to him and welded him dead. Maybe all his parts came through his nose mouth and anus. He was punchable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 03, 2019, 07:06:21 PM
Removing the spoiler tags because I can't be bothered.






I wouldn't call The Deep a rapist, he used his power to get sex in a really sleazy meetoo way but he didn't physically force her to do anything. He gave her the choice. Everything she did was because she wanted to be part of the group. She could have said no and went her separate way. Not quite the same thing. It's still a shitty thing to do, but not quite the level of rape. There should be another name for it. He's definitely a sleazy pervert. That towney girl show who shoved her fingers in his gills is a rapist though. He said no
1. There are other terms we can use: Sexual misconduct or sexual abuse. Pick one. I'm not really sure why you spent an entire paragraph quasi-defending The Deep's not-felony-rape of Starlight.

Fine, The Deep is a "sexual abuser". Does that make you feel better? Legally, sexual misconduct may be non-criminal. Going back to my post you quoted, The Deep potentially not being liable under the law for his sexual conduct doesn't change how I feel about the character. The writers can try to humanize him all they want. I, personally, do not care for it. The later scene in which The Deep was sexually assaulted didn't fill me with a sense of justice; legal, poetic, or otherwise.

2. Regarding the bolded parts: it's hella weird that you're so attached to pedantically qualifying this even in a "well, actually" kind of way. A "yes" under professional and financial duress is not consent. "She could have said no." Not really. And gross.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2019, 10:15:50 PM
I don't think he was defending it at all, he was trying to figure out what you would charge him with. Rape, unlikely. Sexual assault definitely. Even the "Offer" is chargeable work place harassment regardless if she said no or not and would violate tons of labour laws even without the sex angle.

The Deep is not the only one engaging in Quid Pro Quo coercion but the most blatant.

Deep's other encounter has no legal bearing to Starlight.

He more than likely confused as to how the law applies forgetting the coercion element rather than being gross.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 03, 2019, 10:44:21 PM
I don't think he was defending it at all
Nah, man. “She could have said no and went her separate way” places responsibility on Starlight who had shown physical and verbal discomfort in that scene which quasi-defending The Deep. That’s the same line of thinking as “She was asking for it” or “She shouldn’t have dressed so provocatively” because it incorrectly shifts blame away from the perpetrator.

People need to learn how to read a room. Communication is over 90% non-verbal; over 50% of non-verbal communication is body language. If someone reluctantly says “Yes,” that’s a “No.” It fills me with dread that I even have to explain this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 03, 2019, 10:53:20 PM
It fills me with dread that I even have to explain this.

I mean...

People need to learn how to read a room.

Consider the audience - one that didn't know taking away a woman's right to her emotions and commanding she look pretty for you is a well-documented type of harassment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2019, 11:12:24 PM
I don't think he was defending it at all
Nah, man. “She could have said no and went her separate way” places responsibility on Starlight who had shown physical and verbal discomfort in that scene which quasi-defending The Deep. That’s the same line of thinking as “She was asking for it” or “She shouldn’t have dressed so provocatively” because it incorrectly shifts blame away from the perpetrator.

People need to learn how to read a room. Communication is over 90% non-verbal; over 50% of non-verbal communication is body language. If someone reluctantly says “Yes,” that’s a “No.” It fills me with dread that I even have to explain this.
I rather give the benefit of the doubt for a moment so we can have a constructive dialogue, have a chance to make it right than to start calling people nasty things. Rehabilitate over punishment yes? It's not like you forfeit being able to go at it a little later.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 03, 2019, 11:31:15 PM
I rather give the benefit of the doubt for a moment so we can have a constructive dialogue, have a chance to make it right than to start calling people nasty things. Rehabilitate over punishment yes? It's not like you forfeit being able to go at it a little later.
When it comes to sexual violence, no. I won’t give anyone the benefit of the doubt. It’s important as part of a (hopefully) functional society to always nip harmful beliefs in the bud whenever and wherever you see/hear it even in regards to fictional characters because these opinions come from a very real place, and I’d rather not give anyone even a glimmer that they’re even remotely acceptable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 03, 2019, 11:45:30 PM
I said for a moment. If you like a time frame, a couple hours for a response. I am not disagreeing with you in nipping it in the bud, a little bit less knee jerk, instant outrage is not helpful. Taking a moment to make it right doesn't change the acceptability, or condone such actions in anyway. It does not forfeit being outraged later. If it doesn't work out have at it.

Let me illiterate: Rehabilitate over punishment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 03, 2019, 11:55:53 PM
I responded over three hours after ThePerm originally posted, and yes, I did read it when it was originally posted.

Also, do you like not see the irony of you, of all people, lecturing literally anyone about outrage, instant or otherwise?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 04, 2019, 12:38:03 AM
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 04, 2019, 12:46:58 AM
I didn't know you had waited. My apologies.

I still don't like throwing around labels this quickly before perm gets to respond. Tick tock.

You probably don't want to conflate my view on justice and crime with getting pissed off about entertainment. Doesn't exactly equate in a good way for you.

LOL video.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 04, 2019, 02:09:25 AM
I don't think he was defending it at all
Nah, man. “She could have said no and went her separate way” places responsibility on Starlight who had shown physical and verbal discomfort in that scene which quasi-defending The Deep. That’s the same line of thinking as “She was asking for it” or “She shouldn’t have dressed so provocatively” because it incorrectly shifts blame away from the perpetrator.

People need to learn how to read a room. Communication is over 90% non-verbal; over 50% of non-verbal communication is body language. If someone reluctantly says “Yes,” that’s a “No.” It fills me with dread that I even have to explain this.

I was definitely not defending The Deep's actions. I was more making a critique on your use of language. Myself using the example of the towney rapist wasn't a whataboutism, but a situational comparison. We were going over the definition of words. One situation was clear rape and the other was sexual misconduct. We have two trisyllabic words for this, not a monosyllabic or disyllabic word. That was my critique on the English language. A mere irrelevant diatribe.

 I don't care if you spend most of your waking life at work, you should not have sexual relationships with co-workers. It is a bad idea for a number of reasons. Especially if you have some sort of seniority.

That aside she should have said no and immediately reported him. As it turns out he had no real power over her and his compatriots thought of him as a joke. They might have taken her side. Even if they didn't take her side. It is still the better choice to immediately report him. Her whole plotline is about selling little pieces of herself for a sawdust rabbit. Don't sell your soul to evil organizations. If they want you to suck a dick from the start then there is something wrong there. That's a red flag. That indicates that is not the worse thing you'd have to do for that organization. There is no benefit here in being complicit.

And also, I don't think he could beat her in a fight, he couldn't even overpower a towney, so she also should have said no for that reason too. Talk about reading a room. She might be the most powerful person in the group. Hard to say between her and Homelander. The Deep had no social power over her, he had no physical power over her. She had a full house and she folded because he was bluffing. She's a bad card player. I never said she was asking for it. Those aren't words I used.  It never had anything to do with how she was dressed. The Deep is the propositioner here.  Let's take gender out of it. And super powers. If someone offered me a job in a movie and I had to suck a dick then I would say no and not do the movie. Simple as that. It has nothing to do with how I was dressed. Sidestep, I'm pretty sure Christian Bale would have done more Batman movies if it meant he'd keep making money on them, but he had to stop eventually because you can only wear that fucking costume so long before it has reached deep throating levels of uncomfortability.  As the old proverb goes 'You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink'

Of course, these hypothetical situations are putting interpersonal transactions before jurisprudence. Obviously, sexual quid pro quo for personal gain is illegal in a number of jurisdictions, especially the propositioning of it. Also to be clear I don't judge her actions from any sort of moral standpoint, purely a gamesmanship stance.

And also we want Starbright to make all these bad choices because it furthers the plot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 04, 2019, 02:30:42 PM
I was definitely not defending The Deep's actions.

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There is no benefit here in being complicit.
That's victim blaming.

Do you know what complicity means? You're stating a person who is coerced into a sexual act is a willing participant in the abuse/crime against them which doesn't make any sense. You are defending The Deep's actions by placing literally any responsibility on Starlight. Rewatch the scene.

1. The Deep whips his dick out.
2. Starlight shows clear discomfort and tries to leave the room.
3. The Deep blackmails her.

We're talking about fictional characters, but I imagine the same logic applies if they were real people which makes this socially frightening.
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And also, I don't think he could beat her in a fight, he couldn't even overpower a towney, so she also should have said no for that reason too. Talk about reading a room. She might be the most powerful person in the group. Hard to say between her and Homelander. The Deep had no social power over her, he had no physical power over her. She had a full house and she folded because he was bluffing. She's a bad card player.
Irrelevant. She had none of that information at the time. Also, more victim blaming.
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I never said she was asking for it. Those aren't words I used.
No one said you did. I very specifically made a comparison and said: "That’s the same line of thinking". Then, you ignored the most important part of that sentence: "it incorrectly shifts blame away from the perpetrator." Jebus, man, you quoted me.
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If someone offered me a job in a movie and I had to suck a dick then I would say no and not do the movie. Simple as that.
Good for you. Have you considered that other people may react differently to abuse than you?

More importantly, you misread the entire scene. Starlight actually tried to walk away then ultimately realized it wasn't that simple. See, you think this is only about leaving a job. The Deep threatened to basically end Starlight's whole career, her entire relationship with her mother, how the world (including and especially her hometown) would even look at her after supposedly attacking one of The Seven who are practically worshipped in this world, have her charged with assault and battery etc. You keep finding ways to shift blame onto the sexual assault victim, and it's fucking weird, man.

You even brought up the woman (Molly) who sexually assaulted The Deep. You mentioned he couldn't overpower her. Have you seen Chace Crawford's arms? Dude is yoked. He could have easily pushed her off, and that's the point. This isn't about physical strength. The Deep was under too much duress to react rationally in the moment. Just like Starlight was. The show couldn't have made that clearer without a scrolling marquee at the bottom of the screen: ***Remember that scene in the first episode!!!***

Also, there's no sexual penetration in that scene. Molly fingers his gills then starts rubbing herself while The Deep's pants are clearly visibly still on. Is sex implied? Maybe? The Deep never explicitly says "No" either. "I wouldn't call Molly a rapist. He could have said no and went his separate way. Not quite the same thing. It's still a shitty thing to do, but not quite the level of rape." See how fucked up that is?

To bring this full circle, this is exactly why I don't give a **** about The Deep's subplot. If someone has to be raped in order to learn some fucking empathy and that sexual assault is, you know, wrong and disgusting, I can't bring myself to care about that character or subplot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 04, 2019, 03:08:16 PM
You know, that Aninaniacs clip was supposed to be a humorous way to end this tangent and let everyone just back away from a delicate subject matter... -_-
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 04, 2019, 03:24:20 PM
You know, that Aninaniacs clip was supposed to be a humorous way to end this tangent and let everyone just back away from a delicate subject matter... -_-
1. We’re still discussing the show.
2. It’s important to have conversations about delicate subject matter.
3. You don’t have to be part of the conversation.
4. If it makes you feel better, I think I’ve said everything I need to say about it. I’m open to continuing it if ThePerm has anything else to add.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 04, 2019, 09:56:05 PM
Before we discuss Starlight's case further. I want you to watch the movie Starry Eyes. Don't just look up the plot synopsis. I want you to watch the entire thing. Then we'll have a further discussion about her.

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Also, there's no sexual penetration in that scene. Molly fingers his gills then starts rubbing herself while The Deep's pants are clearly visibly still on. Is sex implied? Maybe? The Deep never explicitly says "No" either. "I wouldn't call Molly a rapist. He could have said no and went his separate way. Not quite the same thing. It's still a shitty thing to do, but not quite the level of rape." See how fucked up that is?

Molly definitely violated The Deep. The Deep told Molly "Stop Stop Stop Stop Stop Stop" She said "it's just my pinky" and he said "no, i said it hurt" and then "alright look, maybe you should go" and then she tells him "I'm not going anywhere you fucking freak" she tells him "lay back" he hesitates, and then she says "I said lay back!" and then she pushes him down and jams her fingers down his orifices. He says "owww Oh my god" So very clearly a rape there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 04, 2019, 10:34:18 PM
Before we discuss Starbright's case this further. I want you to watch the movie Starry Eyes. Don't just look up the plot synopsis. I want you to watch the entire thing. Then we'll have a further discussion about her.
I’m not tracking down and watching a completely separate and unrelated movie because you doubled down on victim blaming. Get your point across without assigning me homework. Unbelievable, man.
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So very clearly a rape there.
Is it though? Gills are respiratory organs. The point of that scene was to simulate rape in a fictional scenario that has no possibility of happening in real life because people don’t have gills. Yes, Molly violated The Deep by forcing him into a situation in which he was visibly and physically uncomfortable with. You can see that for what it is yet for some reason coercing someone into giving a blowjob is completely different to you.

What else you got? I’ve said my piece repeatedly. I don’t think you’re going to get it, and I don’t want to disappoint broodwars further.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on September 05, 2019, 12:47:42 AM
So all I'm getting from this conversation (such as it is) is that The Boys probably isn't a show I'm interested in watching.

Has anyone checked out the new Dark Crystal show on Netflix?  Recently watched the movie with my daughter, who had mixed feelings about it. Not sure if it's something to bring her in on or not and am looking for opinions.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 05, 2019, 12:59:54 AM
So all I'm getting from this conversation (such as it is) is that The Boys probably isn't a show I'm interested in watching.
Depends on what your preferences are. Do you like superhero movies? The Boys attempts to deconstruct the genre, doesn’t quite get there (yet?) but is still pretty enjoyable on its own. There are some try-hard moments and an overuse of sexual assault as character motivation. It’s so overused in fiction there days that it often comes off as lazy.

More importantly, how do you feel about Karl Urban? If you’re a fan, watch this.
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Has anyone checked out the new Dark Crystal show on Netflix?  Recently watched the movie with my daughter, who had mixed feelings about it. Not sure if it's something to bring her in on or not and am looking for opinions.
I tried, but the heavy use of narration as soon as I clicked “play” put me off immediately. I’m juggling a few shows at the moment so maybe I’ll revisit it once I get through the others.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 05, 2019, 01:00:34 AM
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    So very clearly a rape there.

Is it though? Gills are respiratory organs. The point of that scene was to simulate rape in a fictional scenario that has no possibility of happening in real life because people don’t have gills. Yes, Molly violated The Deep by forcing him into a situation in which he was visibly and physically uncomfortable with. You can see that for what it is yet for some reason coercing someone into giving a blowjob is completely different to you.

If somebody had tentacles and they shoved them down somebodies nostrils while they simultaneously jerked off that would be a rape. Even without the fapping If you put your fingers in an orifice and someone tells you not to do it. I don't care what orifice is, it is rape. You don't penetrate people's mucous membranes without their permission. Gills are most definitely sexual organs. Anything with a hole can be used for sex. And talk about doubling down? The Deep said no and also said stop several times. No means no. There is a difference between holding somebody down and forcing yourself onto someone and "I'll make people not like you"
I could have used a separate character, but I don't thing there were any other sexual misconduct incidents in the show other than Translucent's nudism.

Don't want to watch Starry Eyes?  Then I don't want to discuss this much further. I think you're using a lot of idiomatic phrases and your arguments lack nuance. I also think you have a sexist double standard. You also have a specieist double standard. There is a difference between putting the blame on a perpetrator for one incident and saying the victim has also made a series of subsequent stupid decisions.  I wasn't victim blaming. I never accused her of provoking The Deep into some sort sexual madness. I never slut shamed her or cared about how she conducted herself by some belief structure standard. None of my critiques of her fall into the definition of victim blaming. He would have propositioned her eventually because he is an sleazeball. He should have never propositioned a co-worker. But Co-workers should never accept propositions either. If I offered you bath salts it is up to you if you take them. It's bad that I offered them. It's bad if you take them. Those are two separate things. There is a difference between rape and sexual harassment.  These things are not black and white. There is grey area. If I forced you with a gun to take bath salts that is worse than merely offering them. Choice and consent make all the difference in the world. Starlight was never incapacitated or helpless in this situation. He was wrong for asking because A. The promptness that he pulled his dick out B. Because he was her future co-worker at a fictional superhero institution C. and because he threatened her socially afterward. He's clearly in the wrong for these three things. That doesn't mean I don't think she made a subsequently bad series of choices. She can decide not to do those things, and that doesn't mean if she decided not to do those things that he's not still wrong for asking. These are separate things. I don't blame her for sucking his dick, but I think she would have been happier in the long run if she didn't. Clearly it conflicts with her belief system and this does her psychological trauma.

Sometimes it is a better decision to go the other way. The purpose of her character is an allegory for maintaining integrity and not losing integrity by making choices that conflict with your belief structure. That is a central theme to the show. Hughie doesn't have to take the money, Hughie doesn't have to kill Translucent, Hughie doesn't have to collect intel on Starlight. Eventually he does all these things and this compromises his character.  Queen Maeve represents Annie's future. She's the future version of Starlight where she's already made a series of bad consequences over several years to the extant she is totally compromised. The Deep tells Annie when he sees her that "When I first got here I thought I was a fraud" because he is. Red flags. Get out. Get out. Starlight doesn't have to be one of the seven, she doesn't have to suck the deeps dick, she doesn't have to wear a stupid sexist outfit. She's better off on her own than working at a corporation that does unethical experiments on infants. Personally, I used to work for an evil corporation in real life. Working there ate at my soul. They were monopolistic and have plans for global domination. I morally objected to the way they ran their company. There were people there that were future version of myself if I continued to work there. There were very obese and I overheard someone once complaining about how bad their hemorrhoids had become. I'd read memos from the company and I'd think to myself "wtf" Eventually I stopped coming in. Actually I turned in my resignation and they begged me to stay and then I stayed for another six months. Then I stopped coming in. I lost money. I ran out of savings.  Eventually I found another much better job. But I got out. That was the correct choice.

On the other hand she should have definitely made all these bad choices because it was entertaining. I can't wait till the last season when you absolutely hate her character a la Jenny Schecter from the L word. It's always fun being the creepy voyeur ghost watching all these crazy fictional situations. I liked being the creepy voyeur ghost for Breaking Bad especially. It always had good vantage points. I definitely would recommend this show. Not a show for children though. Skeksis scare the **** out of me though.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 05, 2019, 01:49:12 AM
So all I'm getting from this conversation (such as it is) is that The Boys probably isn't a show I'm interested in watching.
Go watch it if you have any remote interest in superheroes as it tears down the façade, throws out the saccharine, shows the terrifying reality in a super powered world. Karl Urban and Antony Starr both Kiwis absolutely own the show. Antony gets bonus point as Homelander, amazingly well played.

Those two are blowing up the sex angle way out of proportion to the rest of the show and given what happens later, it makes it I dare say pedestrian. Dicks, abusers, enablers, assholes don't give a **** about your gender, it doesn't discriminate, it's all bad and plenty to go around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 05, 2019, 01:59:32 AM
Yeah the things we're talking about are like 8 minutes of the show total. Maybe less.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 05, 2019, 02:12:15 AM
Those two are blowing up the sex angle way out of proportion to the rest of the show and given what happens later, it makes it I dare say pedestrian. Dicks, abusers, enablers, assholes don't give a **** about your gender, it doesn't discriminate, it's all bad and plenty to go around.
The scenes themselves are short but the sex angle lingers in the background as it drives the narrative of at least two major characters.

I tapped out of that discussion once I was assigned homework. Then, a strawman and a few insults make that especially not worth it anymore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 05, 2019, 02:37:14 AM
It gives way to more generalised exploitation, coercion and impossible choices. It's not just 8 minutes nor is it all encompassing. That scene made for an excellent jumping off point but isn't the true source of Star Light's conundrum. Her character is far deeper.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 05, 2019, 11:02:24 AM
It gives way to more generalised exploitation, coercion and impossible choices. It's not just 8 minutes nor is it all encompassing. That scene made for an excellent jumping off point but isn't the true source of Star Light's conundrum. Her character is far deeper.
I mostly agree. The scene is the beginning of Starlight’s disillusionment of The Seven except (I believe) the point is that she’s the only one who will remain true to her values and (interestingly) what The Seven is marketed as, not what they actually are. It was effective in that sense though I personally find the use of sexual assault as a motivator and surviving sexual assault as a sign of strength especially with female characters to be a stale and quite frankly, lazy narrative coupon. If writers can’t create resonant characters without these emotional shortcuts, they’re not trying very hard.

Still, the discussion is worth having, and I don’t agree that it was blown out of proportion. People should talk about it specifically because it is difficult to talk about. If we don’t have the conversations when toxic behavior comes up, when should we have these conversations? Here, we appear to have someone who has a fundamental misunderstanding of coerced consent, what constitutes as victim blaming, and the need to qualify abuse. It felt personally irresponsible not to have that conversation.

Whether The Deep is a rapist in a legal sense didn’t change my assessment of that part of the show so it was odd to be called out on it even if it was a mere “well, actually.” To me, the difference doesn’t matter because I’m not arguing it in a court of law. I place sexual coercion on the same moral plane as rape. The show seems to do so as well by mirroring those scenes featuring that particular character. It’s exactly like you said: it’s all bad. I just can’t sanction someone making excuses for an abuser. I feel as if I have to say something. I’m sorry if it made people uncomfortable, but I’m not that sorry.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on September 05, 2019, 08:03:24 PM
It is out of proportion as there is so, so much more to the show. ejamer impression is Rape: The show, something more in line with SVU.

Final observation: The discussion of Starlight in this thread mirrors her treatment by others in the show, female and pretty.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2019, 03:51:50 PM
Stranger Things Season 3

Finally got around to binging this after running through Schitt’s Creek (all four seasons on Netflix) and The Good Place (Season 3). Much better than Season 2 which I didn’t particularly like. I personally still believe Season 1 was the best. It came out of nowhere and did something other shows at the same time weren’t doing. It’s difficult to top that. Still, I don’t want to judge Season 3 on what is wasn’t.

My biggest issue is the ending. Like Season 1, the showrunners could have wrapped the story up there. It works as an fitting finale (yeah, it really sucked what happened to Barbara, but it wasn’t a hanging plot thread). The end of Season 2 felt like there was more story to tell by asking more questions than providing answers. The cliffhanger in Season 3 (Hopper = “the American” in the Russian prison? My guess is yes) makes me uneasy for the future. If they don’t stick the actual landing, Season 3’s finale is going to stand out even more with its strong, emotional gut-punch of an ending without the mid-credits scene. I’m hoping they pull off a Toy Story 4 which miraculously managed to have an even better and more fitting and emotionally resonant ending than Toy Story 3.

Anyway, all-around solid performances from the entire cast though Mike grated on me a bit early (maybe that was the point? If so, good job?). I love the addition of Cary Elwes, continuing the tradition of casting actors who gained fame in the 80s (e.g. Paul Reiser, Sean Astin). Normally, I feel as if Erica would be a character with serious go-away heat, but damn, Priah Ferguson put in another fine performance, building off of being the low-key best addition to Season 2. There was also a much better, clearer story than Season 2. No need to get into that. I also feel as if Dustin and Suzie’s rendition of the Neverending Story theme should have been cringe yet it totally wasn’t. I dug it. Those kids made it adorbz. Right on.

I was about ready to give up on Stranger Things after Season 2. It was unfocused and messy. I’m cautiously optimistic about Season 4 though I really hope it ends there.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 08, 2019, 03:59:28 PM
One thing I've learned over my years of watching media is if you didn't see a death happen on screen then you can't make assumptions. The American can be few other people though, but probably better if it's Hopper
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on September 08, 2019, 04:17:51 PM
The actor who played that character was recently spotting with uncut hair and a long beard. It's difficult to hide these things in a connected world. I guess it could be for a different role, but come on...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 08, 2019, 05:03:11 PM
Well yeah it's going to be him. I'd give it a 97% chance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on September 12, 2019, 12:34:00 AM
I was hoping Matthew Modine would come back
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on September 12, 2019, 01:44:43 PM
Started The Dark Crystal. Seems rather interesting. I am almost entranced by the puppetry and environmental details. Nice to see Jim Henson Studios doing something like this again.

Gives me a Lord of the Rings vibe with the opening narration, so I gave it a pass and I am enjoying the world and characters so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on September 12, 2019, 02:43:36 PM
I was hoping Matthew Modine would come back

That was where I put my 3%
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on December 28, 2019, 04:49:22 PM
Santa Clarita Diet - HAHAHA OMG GROSS

I don't know why I would keep skipping over this show on Netflix as I was casually scrolling past looking for something mildly entertaining to watch. Several friends have recently recommended it again, and the opportunity came up once more that I was casually browsing and decided to check it out. Right from Ep1 I was enjoying this show, as all the mains are very charismatic (Drew Barrymore & Timothy Olyphant to be more specific) and both have great comedic timing and delivery. Olyphant's overly expressive reactions, and Barrymore's optimistically enthusiastic approach to wrong in the name of "good".
This show is highly entertaining and humorous, with a very high gross out factor. Definitely my type of show. Too bad it only lasted the 3 seasons as Netflix just cancelled it after S3, but so far I'm enjoying pretty much every episode so far (just started S2)

If you're looking for a little bit of info on what the show is about..... Married Realtor Couple has a disastrous showing that ends in Drew becoming a "zombie". Now the couple must cope with new lifestyle changes whilst also maintaining their suburbanite regular family life image. Needless to say, easier said than done, especially when neighbors on both sides are cops, and your daughter is aware things ain't right.

edit: just finished S2E2 and this show just stays on the hilarious side of ridiculous. LOL
It's a shame I didn't start watching till after it was cancelled. This is a very fun show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on January 01, 2020, 12:38:52 AM
Santa Clarita Diet - HAHAHA OMG GROSS

I don't know why I would keep skipping over this show on Netflix as I was casually scrolling past looking for something mildly entertaining to watch. Several friends have recently recommended it again, and the opportunity came up once more that I was casually browsing and decided to check it out. Right from Ep1 I was enjoying this show, as all the mains are very charismatic (Drew Barrymore & Timothy Olyphant to be more specific) and both have great comedic timing and delivery. Olyphant's overly expressive reactions, and Barrymore's optimistically enthusiastic approach to wrong in the name of "good".
This show is highly entertaining and humorous, with a very high gross out factor. Definitely my type of show. Too bad it only lasted the 3 seasons as Netflix just cancelled it after S3, but so far I'm enjoying pretty much every episode so far (just started S2)

If you're looking for a little bit of info on what the show is about..... Married Realtor Couple has a disastrous showing that ends in Drew becoming a "zombie". Now the couple must cope with new lifestyle changes whilst also maintaining their suburbanite regular family life image. Needless to say, easier said than done, especially when neighbors on both sides are cops, and your daughter is aware things ain't right.

edit: just finished S2E2 and this show just stays on the hilarious side of ridiculous. LOL
It's a shame I didn't start watching till after it was cancelled. This is a very fun show.

It was a good show.


I'd recommend watching The Righteous Gemstones off HBO. It's a one-off. There's a small connection between the shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 05, 2020, 06:07:51 PM
Dracula: 3 part mini series on BBC/Netflix

I originally checked this out as someone had said that it loosely follows the Bram Stoker Dracula book that I had read several times in my youth. Not that I remember all the details of that book, but it was one of the few books that I owned that I read more than once or even twice.
Well... I must really not remember most of the book, because I think only the 1st part, and maybe part of the second part were loosely from the book. the 3rd part was more of a "bringing it modern" telling of the story. It wasn't overly gory, and no nudity... after having watched the entire series, I would even let my daughter watch if she wanted. It wasn't exactly scary, and she really wanted to watch it with me, but I only let her watch the end (probably the nastiest part), as it wasn't that bad.
One of the best parts was how Dracula was actually quite funny in his own way. Centuries of this ****, and still hadn't lost his sense of humor or comedic timing.

each episode is of movie length (1.5hrs), but there are only 3 parts, so I was able to binge it over these last 2 days. I like the majority of it, but I'm not too fond of part 3, and more specifically how it ends. I feel like they could've made a longer series out of it had they handled it differently, but I guess that may not have been their goal. And that's a shame, because I would have tuned in for a longer series depending on how they handled part 3 differently.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 28, 2020, 10:19:29 AM
Is anyone watching Avenue 5? Who is this show aimed at?

There's some very good talent here but it feels like they want to make a comedy about the situation, and then stuff it fully with The Office-type characters, rather than be like Stargate Universe, and even Lost, which past the pilot was saying "we need to get more food and water" and focus on the basics.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 31, 2020, 07:05:15 AM
The Good Place wrapped up tonight.

Damn, that was a good ride.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 01, 2020, 08:20:52 PM
Well, now that I know it was good, and it's all wrapped up (on its own terms I assume?) I can now schedule it for a binge-ing 🧐
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ShyGuy on February 01, 2020, 10:13:33 PM
First three seasons are on Netflix. It's pretty good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 02, 2020, 10:05:04 AM
The Good Place is one of the best comedies ever. Very sharp writing. I didn’t love the shipping between two particular characters, but I think it was planned. Definitely handled better than when fans are like “NOW KISS!” while pushing the characters faces together then the writers shrug their shoulders and decide, “Sure. Okay. fine.”

Anyway...

Dracula (BBC/Netflix)

Weird. Just a weird take on the story. Van Helsing is definitely the best character. A nice, unique take on the character. The actor slips in and out of the Dutch accent.

There’s a moment toward the beginning of the last episode that was really bizarre. It was as if Steven Moffat and Mark Gatiss had this wonderful twist at the end of the second episode then didn’t know how to pay it off without narratively cheating. My understanding is that’s one of the major marks against Moffat’s other show, Sherlock (the one starting Butternut Crinkle Fries). And the ending felt rushed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 02, 2020, 02:18:05 PM
By shipping the two characters, I assume you mean J&J?  Because I loved it.  Total opposites in every way, but they really clicked together and the way they dealt with her character growth through her relationship was amazing.

Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 08, 2020, 08:04:00 PM
I just finished The Good Place.

I don't remember when I started it... (certainly after it was mentioned 1 week ago) but I just finished it.
I thought it was great. as I obviously somewhere found time to binge this whole series in less than a week... all 3 seasons of it.... and i think this was my busiest work week since Nov.... not sure how I did it, but I'd do it again... if there were 3 more seasons. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 09, 2020, 02:30:31 AM
There are 4 seasons though.....
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 09, 2020, 01:05:32 PM
Oh... is there 4 seasons?I was binge watching on Netflix...the good plave

does it air on TV? do I need to look up episodes that aren't on TV? it just seemed like such a natural end point to leave an open ending (even though I would love to know how the experiment went).... Now I will go look up a S4. That gives me something else to watch this week :D

fake edit: OMG there is a FOURTH season!!! with 13 episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on February 11, 2020, 01:37:32 AM
My wife once called me an emotionless robot.

I cried during the series finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on February 12, 2020, 04:29:41 PM
I have had multiple people including my wife insist that I would love Good Place, but every time I sat in on one of her viewings I just never felt compelled to continue. I also called the "big twist" when sitting in with her the first time (it was a joke comment but a co-worker confirmed the next day I was right on the money). Now that it is done maybe I will give it another go once I can stream it all on Netflix or something.

Wife and I are currently watching Brooklyn 9-9 and it is rather funny. Its been a while since I've sat down and enjoyed a good comedy series that is not Parks & Rec. Office left such a bad taste in my mouth it just really turned me off of any other comedy series.

Recently finished mounting our new TV for the downstairs (read: my study/entertainment room) and decided to watch the first episode of The Mandalorian again. Now I'm rewatching that because I still really, really enjoy it. Probably the best bit of Star Wars out there since Clone Wars was cancelled.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: relicgear92 on February 14, 2020, 02:48:58 AM
The Good Place wrapped up tonight.

Damn, that was a good ride.

I just finished the series and it was really satisfying. The team cockroach gets the peace that they deserve at the end. I like how Eleanor becomes this piece of conscience to someone  which suits her character growth because she was always the one to push the team to try out their plans.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 19, 2020, 09:16:59 PM
The Good Place wrapped up tonight.

Damn, that was a good ride.

I just finished the series and it was really satisfying. The team cockroach gets the peace that they deserve at the end. I like how Eleanor becomes this piece of conscience to someone  which suits her character growth because she was always the one to push the team to try out their plans.

I finally finished this too, and I like how they were able to give a very satisfying ending and everyone had a growth arc that came to a conclusion. I just wished I finished the 4th season during my focused binge of the first 3 seasons so I could take it all in at once, instead of the stretched out viewings I had to do of the 4th season.

I also just noticed that the user ratings (applaud/smite) are active again.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on February 20, 2020, 12:13:06 AM
I also just noticed that the user ratings (applaud/smite) are active again.

Oh dear. Welcome to two years ago......

Maybe that explains your score. File not found.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 20, 2020, 01:04:18 AM
I also just noticed that the user ratings (applaud/smite) are active again.

Oh dear. Welcome to two years ago......

Maybe that explains your score. File not found.
LOL

I'm my defense, they've been broken image icons for the longest time, so I had no idea what they were, and no longer paid any attention to them.

I noticed about a week ago that they were links now, so I finally hovered my mouse over it to see where it went, and that's when I realized it was applaud/smite buttons.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on February 20, 2020, 05:43:40 PM
Legends of Tomorrow: A headless Marie Antoinette with a flamethrower running around loose on the Waverider.

Never change.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on February 20, 2020, 09:06:46 PM
Just checked out the Love, Death + Robots anthology of short animation pieces on Netflix. Like most sci-fi anthologies (books or short films) the quality from piece to piece was mixed, but overall there were a lot of good moments and the weak moments are easy to forget and move past.

Easy to recommend, although not everyone will enjoy the whole series as much as I did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 28, 2020, 11:11:32 PM
"I Am NOT Okay With This" on Netflix.

I would say if you are looking for something entertaining, like shows based off graphic novels, and generally like to be entertained.... you can't go wrong here. The only fault in this show is that it's too short and a second season is needed STAT.

It's a High School teen coming of age drama like show with a comic twist. Characters are all great, actors playing them did a great job, and honestly, each episode almost felt too short and the whole season 1 definitely felt too short, but that's kinda a good thing as it definitely left me wanting more... immediately.

I think Netflix nailed it here. I may have to go look up the book so I can skip ahead and not wait to see what goes down next season. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 16, 2020, 03:06:17 AM
Lost in Space on Netflix (new version)

Thanks to rain and Covid, it was an in the house marathon session weekend (my daughter did not want to go anywhere.... unless it was to Wendys for Breakfast or lunch), so we managed to wrap up last few episodes of S1 and all of S2 this weekend. I gotta say, it's always something with these Robinsons.... but damn is this an enjoyable show. Some touching moments that make you edge that emotional area, and some intense action scenes where you're just not sure how things are gonna play out. Regardless of what you were expecting though, this was one good ride so far. All the characters grow on you, including the ever antagonizing Dr. Smith, so I'm glad that there is apparently one more season on the way. The upcoming S3 (in 2021) may be the final season, but at least they know this ahead of time, so it better get a good and touching series finale that's on par or better than the S2 season finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on March 16, 2020, 04:04:56 PM
Kinda grinds my gears that Netflix ends series after 2-3 seasons. While I am happy it is know ahead of time and they can plan accordingly, a show like this could have gone on for another 2-3 seasons just fine. I know they have a "bottom line" and that after the 3rd season they don't see a "payoff" in subscriber numbers/retention, but if all they have are a bunch of short shows then there will be no lasting legacy for them. Maybe they don't feel the need for that, but its still a downer, and makes me wonder if they will do the same thing to Witcher in time.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on March 16, 2020, 09:09:39 PM
I'm Not Okay With This might last longer. As Stranger things starts to fizzle out they're going to need replacements. Netflix has only been making original tv series worth watching since 2013. They'll eventually be better at keeping things going and keeping content constant. or not.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 22, 2020, 02:51:41 PM
Egregiously long review of Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28364.msg966355#msg966355)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2020, 05:46:56 PM
.....so it's not worth a $20 rental nor the time to actually watch it?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 22, 2020, 07:12:00 PM
.....so it's not worth a $20 rental nor the time to actually watch it?
No movie is worth a $20 rental.

If you want something to play in the background, you could do worse. It also doesn’t lean into the R rating as much as it should. A couple bad-language words, some violence but it felt tame. I’m not really sure who the audience for this was supposed to be.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2020, 07:20:07 PM
I hear the Invisible Man is pretty good.
and if you aren't alone in watching these rentals, I have to ask... how much is a movie ticket where you live? and do you spend anything at the concession?

Ticket prices around here are anywhere from $10-16 per ticket depending on the day, time, and theater screen. Water, Soda, Popcorn, Candy or anything else at the concession stand is gonna run you another $8-$20

I'd say some movies in the theater at home can be very well more than worth the cost if you wanted to watch it now. I can spend $20 on a 48 hour rental, which means I can probably watch it twice, and from the comfort of my bed, or couch and without all the surrounding audience noise, or people walking by, and I can pause it if I need to use the bathroom or replenish my meal/snack/drinks.
but to each their own.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 22, 2020, 08:40:12 PM
I have to ask... how much is a movie ticket where you live? and do you spend anything at the concession?
A matinee is $7 to $10 depending on the theater.

Also, I just realized I posted this in the wrong thread so I’m going to lie down for a while because I have no idea what I’m doing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 23, 2020, 02:18:53 PM
So one 48hr "in-theater" rental @home (w/ unlimited popcorn, snacks, and bathroom break pauses) is in the same figure range as two tickets to theater that has none of the @home perks.

Seems more than reasonable to me.
Even if I was watching it alone. But that's just my opinion.

I think I may rent The Invisible Man and give that a watch
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 23, 2020, 03:12:04 PM
Breaking Bad

Has anyone seen this show? J/k. I know I'm late on this one.  The whole series is streaming on Netflix.  It took me a while (years) to get through it though.

This show really is a slow burn for the first season.  The comedic tones lessen and the overall tone darkens over the series.  The quality is pretty consistent throughout.  The team didn't look like they ran out of ideas towards the end like some shows.  The last few episodes had a lot "Oh sh--!" moments in a row.  I thought the two main characters had an interesting arc.  I would've liked to see more for Jesse though, but maybe I'll check out El Camino for that.  The ending was pretty cool.  It's interesting that Walt got pretty lucky throughout the show but let his successful plans go to his head.  So, his story ended with a good bit of hubris and his recurring luck.

9/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 23, 2020, 03:22:06 PM
I was actually a bit disappointed with El Camino.

It was beautifully shot and well written - and if you view it as an epilogue to the series, it does a satisfying job - but as a "Breaking Bad Movie"... I almost would have rather seen Vince take the money he was given and do a two-hour, wholly original movie than be anchored by trying to fill in the ending of Breaking Bad in two hours.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 23, 2020, 05:01:56 PM
I haven't heard great things, but I'm still a bit eager to see it.  Glad to see it's at least satisfying.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 23, 2020, 06:13:04 PM
It'll probably better for you for, since you just watched the show for the first time - basically, watching another two episodes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on March 23, 2020, 10:44:21 PM
I haven't heard great things, but I'm still a bit eager to see it.  Glad to see it's at least satisfying.
I wrote a short review when the movie first came out if you’re interested (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28364.msg958751#msg958751)

Basically, I liked El Camino. It’s kind of unnecessary, but at least it doesn’t mess with the show or leave it in a worse place. It’s just more Breaking Bad. Then again, so is Better Call Saul. Not a bad thing per se. Given that we have an entire additional show that’s basically Breaking Bad, did we need a movie too? Probably not, and it’s a worse final chapter than Felina (not counting the short present day scenes in Better Call Saul). It’s good though which is the important thing.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on March 23, 2020, 11:46:37 PM
Better Call Saul is my favorite show on right now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on March 24, 2020, 06:35:34 PM
I haven't heard great things, but I'm still a bit eager to see it.  Glad to see it's at least satisfying.
I wrote a short review when the movie first came out if you’re interested (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=28364.msg958751#msg958751)

Basically, I liked El Camino. It’s kind of unnecessary, but at least it doesn’t mess with the show or leave it in a worse place. It’s just more Breaking Bad. Then again, so is Better Call Saul. Not a bad thing per se. Given that we have an entire additional show that’s basically Breaking Bad, did we need a movie too? Probably not, and it’s a worse final chapter than Felina (not counting the short present day scenes in Better Call Saul). It’s good though which is the important thing.

Nice review.  I'll make time to check it out this weekend.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 06, 2020, 03:04:18 PM
I still haven't made time to watch El Camino, but has everyone watched Tiger King already?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2020, 05:22:30 PM
I've purposely avoided watching Tiger King.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 06, 2020, 06:09:39 PM
Any reason?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 06, 2020, 08:12:04 PM
I still haven't made time to watch El Camino, but has everyone watched Tiger King already?
I watched Tiger King: Murder, Mayhem and Madness after seeing meme after meme about it. Honestly, it’s addictive. Most people they interview are terrible people or at least portrayed as such (I mean, they say some things that can’t be misconstrued so I lean toward them being terrible). They also gloss over Doc Antle’s weird breast-implant-sex-cult-polyamory-slavery thing. Granted, the documentary series was supposed to be largely about Joe Exotic and that bitch Carole Baskin so maybe they didn’t have time to go into all that. Still, just seemed odd to even mention it if they weren’t going to elaborate.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 06, 2020, 08:58:54 PM
They touched on his sex cult so briefly, but you could kinda tell the current wives were either not gonna say anything or weren't allowed to.  They had the one person speak up, but I doubt there was time for more.  But yeah, probably the most colorful cast of characters assembled in a long time.  So many people just absolute shitbags.  I will say the people Joe was hiring were probably good people, just down on their luck when they met him, but all caring for the tigers.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2020, 11:58:28 PM
Any reason?

I usually avoid trashy "reality" shows because they can be addicting and i'd rather just not get sucked into all that drama, regardless of how entertaining it may be.

It just emboldens more behavior like what's on display and provides financial stability to these people I'd rather not see become "rich and famous".

Not that i really know much about the show. That's just how i feel about most "reality" shows. I feel like it's ratcheted up for drama, but maybe this show is a lil different....

I also haven't ran out of stuff much higher up my list to watch.
I'm sure I'll eventually watch it with how much everyones talking about it. 🤣

edit: tried to edit autocorrect mispellings, but internet on phone decided not to load this page... some sort of script thing going on lately with this site on both my phone and computer.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 07, 2020, 12:08:29 AM
It's not really a reality show; it's a docuseries, if that helps at all.  It's certainly less trashy than say a "housewives" show that plays up minor disputes as "drama" with cheap editing tricks.

It's also only 7, 45-minute episodes, so you can knock it out in a few days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on April 07, 2020, 11:01:09 AM
...
It's also only 7, 45-minute episodes, so you can knock it out in a few days.

That still sounds like a lot of time spent watching garbage people. I've been considering it just for the pop culture references since it's "a thing" lately... but feel like my time is probably better off spent elsewhere. My opinion of humanity has already been lowered watching how we handle the current COVID-19 situation; why drop it even further?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 07, 2020, 11:40:06 AM
...
It's also only 7, 45-minute episodes, so you can knock it out in a few days.

That still sounds like a lot of time spent watching garbage people. I've been considering it just for the pop culture references since it's "a thing" lately... but feel like my time is probably better off spent elsewhere. My opinion of humanity has already been lowered watching how we handle the current COVID-19 situation; why drop it even further?

really though. (I haven't even updated that thread w/ the most recent BS... )
I keep seeing references everywhere, now I just have to not give in to boredom or curiosity until it eventually dies down.... or gets a season 2. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 07, 2020, 11:51:48 AM
That still sounds like a lot of time spent watching garbage people.
That’s fair though I would start with whether you like documentaries. If you do, it’s a pretty good one. They do solid investigative work, and it didn’t feel sensationalized.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 11, 2020, 08:46:26 PM
Started watching Community from the beginning. I’ve only seen a few episodes here and there as well as some clips on YouTube. I haven’t had access to network television since 2009. Anyway, I’m about six episodes in and my main take away is the show needs more Troy, Abed, and Annie. I heard the first three seasons are excellent, Season 4 is weird because Dan Harmon was fired, Season 5 was better because Harmon was rehired but it couldn’t recover from the damage done in Season 4 (also Donald Glover left the show and only appears in some episodes), and the less said about Season 6, the better. I’ll see if I agree with all that.

I finished the latest season of Castlevania a few weeks ago. I’ve been meaning to do a write up of Season 3. Boy, they did a number on Hector...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 11, 2020, 08:56:53 PM
5 and 6 are different, mostly due to the cast changes, but I’d still say they’re really good. The “replacements” in the main cast all do a good job, and I particularly like Elroy.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on April 11, 2020, 09:58:56 PM
...
I finished the latest season of Castlevania a few weeks ago. I’ve been meaning to do a write up of Season 3. Boy, they did a number on Hector...

No write-up needed: is it good?  Liked the first two seasons, and this is high on my "want to watch" list right now.


So I started watching iZombie thinking it would be a light and mostly funny take on investigative crime show. First season or maybe two were ok... but it's gotten worse the longer it goes. Midway through season 4 now and just really not enjoying where the show has gone; kind of hate watching my way through as background when focusing on other things.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 12, 2020, 01:01:58 AM
No write-up needed: is it good?  Liked the first two seasons, and this is high on my "want to watch" list right now.
I have a lot of thoughts so I still want to do one. To answer your question: Yes, but it’s also the worst one. It felt like they were setting up Season 4 more than anything. Did you play Castlevania: Curse of Darkness? Season 3 continues to borrow from that game, but changes a lot. Not everything is a welcome addition. Bill Nighy is a delight as always. I’ll leave it at that in this post to avoid spoilers since you haven’t seen it yet.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on April 12, 2020, 09:29:30 AM
No write-up needed: is it good?  Liked the first two seasons, and this is high on my "want to watch" list right now.
I have a lot of thoughts so I still want to do one. To answer your question: Yes, but it’s also the worst one. It felt like they were setting up Season 4 more than anything. Did you play Castlevania: Curse of Darkness? Season 3 continues to borrow from that game, but changes a lot. Not everything is a welcome addition. Bill Nighy is a delight as always. I’ll leave it at that in this post to avoid spoilers since you haven’t seen it yet.

Very good!  And after I do watch, I'll look forward to reading the longer post.  :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 13, 2020, 10:40:14 AM
Community seasons are all great, and the replacements are funny because they do a lot to make fun of fans of classic characters, but also honor said fans and characters.  Also the show gets better and better when it gets weirder.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on April 14, 2020, 03:54:37 PM
As promised, I finally watched El Camino.  I thought it was really good!  It was pretty clear that the actors aged a bit, and it was pretty noticeable having just watched the series.  I don't think I would've liked this if I had to wait as long as everyone else to see it.  It was very good as an epilogue to the series.  You get to see more of what was happening to Jesse, it explores some of his PTSD, and gives him a more satisfying ending.  I think the way his story wrapped up made sense.  He went to the characters you'd expect him to seek out with only a few introduced.  It felt like three episodes strung together, including some moments that felt like they would've been cliffhangers in an episode.  It was a bit flash-back dependent, but all the flashbacks were new content, including the cameo you want.  Overall, it feels unnecessary, but it's really enjoyable.

8/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 19, 2020, 04:57:42 AM
Castlevania (Season 3)

Spoiler warning for the entire show so far. I had a lot of feelingz yet this still ended up being even longer than I thought it would. I don’t expect anyone to read all of it. I bolded certain lines to make this easier to digest if anyone is interested.








Season 2 ended with:

1. Dracula allowing Alucard to kill him while Trevor and Sypha mostly watched.

2. Alucard deciding not to voluntarily sleep “forever” instead opting to sulk a lot.

3. Trevor and Sypha deciding to travel the country to rid it of monsters. Adventurers!

4. Isaac building an army of not-Innocent Devils (as in game canon). My understanding is Devil Forgemasters in the show create “night creatures” by summoning damned souls in and demons from hell to inhabit dead human bodies which transforms them into horrible but completely obedient monsters. I think they can also straight up resurrect dead humans into mostly mindless zombie-like creatures. This change from the games is really important in hindsight.

5. Carmilla kidnapping Hector with the implication that she will force him to build an army of not-Innocent Devils for her. How she plans on doing that is... well, she didn’t think that far. And that’s essentially Hector’s entire arc in Season 3.

Everyone else is dead.

Season 3 is good, not great. After surprise-killing Dracula (I doubt anyone expected it so soon), series writer Warren Ellis seemed like he had a pretty standard path forward then mostly stalled for half of the remaining players in Season 3. I don’t want to judge this too harshly because I appreciate long form storytelling when done correctly.

1. Alucard did next to nothing. He started losing his grip on sanity in like a month of isolation. Then, two former human slaves of one of the vampire lords (Cho) killed in Season 2 found Alucard and convinced him to train them. There was always something off about Taka and Sumi. After frolicking around with Alucard (seriously), they had sex with him (!), there were some anime-tiddies, then Alucard was forced to murder them when they tried to kill him for not showing them more things quickly. His entire season-long arc suggests he’s beginning to follow Dracula’s madness and disdain humans. Interesting take. I don’t think Ellis earned that. Additionally, the siblings weren’t especially interesting or likable. The show had been much better at characterization. Taka and Sumi may as well have been named Traitor and Betrayla.

2. Trevor and Sypha ended up in a town called Lindenfeld where they uncovered a plot by a weird cult/former priory that wished to resurrect Dracula. No major complaints here. This was my favorite thread of Season 3. It had the best supporting cast led by Bill Nighy as Saint Germain (one of the best characters in the entire show and SO much better than his game canon counterpart) and Jason Isaac as the Judge (Isaac previously voiced Satan in the Castlevania: Lords of Shadow reboot series).

There was a bit at the very end in which Trevor and Sypha discover the Judge has been sending the town’s children to their deaths (oddly implying he had time to dig up all those pits and install spikes in them) and creepily collecting their shoes which felt really tacked on and unnecessary. I suppose it kind of crushed Sypha’s spirit, but what purpose did that serve? Maybe we’ll find out in Season 4.

3. Isaac just seemed like he was having a really good time. Every time he runs into any kind of adversity, he quickly dispatches of his enemies. Isaac is in three of the best scenes of Season 3: his conversation with a sea captain (expertly voiced by Lance Reddick AKA that guy who shows up into any number of shows and movies that makes you say, “Hey, it’s that guy!”), another conversation with one of his not-Innocent Devils named Flyeyes, and his fight against Legion which Ellis awesomely included into the show. Admittedly, I didn’t really understand the point. It was cool, but I was also uncertain why it happened or needed to. I thought Isaac was going to use all of those dead bodies to bolster his army except it looked like he just fucked off and left the bodies there.

Ultimately, Isaac wants revenge on anyone who betrayed Dracula starting with Carmilla and Hector. It seemed like Ellis opted to have Isaac seek a path of enlightenment after Isaac conversed with the unnamed sea captain. Nope, seems like a straight up revenge tale which is too bad. I don’t hate it because I think I know where Ellis is taking this. However, I would have been interested to see Isaac regain some faith in humanity.

4. Carmilla took a backseat this season to her vampire “sisters”. It’s seeming increasingly likely that Carmilla is going down hard in Season 4 or 5. I am curious who eventually does it. I have theories.

5. And Hector. Yikes! Ellis has admitted that he just likes kicking Hector around, and boy does Hector get kicked around. Literally and figuratively. After being manipulated by Carmilla into betraying Dracula, Hector is kidnapped and forced to walk 800 miles naked. THEN, once they’re in Styria, fucking Lenore happens. Literally and figuratively. Lenore, one of Carmilla’s “sisters“ on the council, manipulated Hector into willfully becoming her slave through magic while they fucked. The council requires his fealty even if coerced because they need to control the army he forges in order for their plan to work.

Okay, so this is at once one of the most interesting and frustrating aspects of the show and season. The plan is clever; Hector falling for it is such a facepalm. Why would he trust a vampire ever again? That isn’t bad writing. Hector’s characterization is that he sucks at being a person. He’s too trusting, too easily manipulated; and he pays for it. He’s going to keep paying for it until he learns from it or dies.

Lenore has a weird following on the internet even though the implication is that she will be a future rapist. Ew! Stahp! Yes, Lenore is the only vampire who ever asked Hector what he wants (albeit with the intention of using that information to manipulate him), and she gives it to him.......... but in an evil monkey’s paw kind of way. Hector wants to feel safe, be free, and largely be left alone. Well, Lenore provides him a comfortable life in that he’ll have nice quarters, a seat at the council table, and can forge all the night creatures he wants (which is like the only thing he really aspires to do).......... as long as he does what he’s told including but not limited to fucking Lenore whenever she wants. Hector is still a prisoner, but with amenities.

I don’t remember the last time I felt this uncomfortable watching anything which is both praise and criticism of Warren Ellis. Praise because writers are supposed to make people feel things, and he certainly accomplished this. Criticism because Ellis hella leaned on the whole Hector-as-Lenore’s-pet thing. Seriously, it’s super-weird, almost fetish-like in execution. Lenore made Hector wear a leash and said “good boy” repeatedly. I cringed so hard I turned into a diamond, but I think Ellis’ intention was to make people uncomfortable and presumably not (entirely) because of his strange affinity for Hot Vampire Pussy®. Hector was either going to snap out of it or go full-blown sex slave. And here we are.

Here’s where I’m conflicted. So Lenore is awful and probably a future rapist (since Hector can no longer consent to sex) as she flat-out states her intention of having ALL THE SEX with Hector, demanding he get a big bed for explicit Hot Vampire Pussy®. Lenore now has complete control over Hector (more on where this may go later). Minus the implied future rape, isn’t this what Hector does as a Devil Forgemaster? The night creatures he creates are completely obedient to him and presumably not voluntarily. They are for all intents and purposes his pets/slaves. I never thought about it that way before, and now I feel gross and irresponsible because I didn’t hate Hector for displaying similar behavior. The show is very clear in conflating the two. Granted, he isn’t conniving nor is he fucking the night creatures, but the implication is that he absolutely can, right? He can do whatever he wants to the night creatures, and never seems bothered when they’re killed. We can’t even really make the argument that Lenore’s actions are different (or particularly worse) than Hector’s, notably because Lenore enslaved a human. Hector had been desecrating/repurposing dead human bodies and subjecting damned human souls into being his servants. If Lenore is terrible (she is), it follows that Hector is as well albeit without implied future rape. If we’re being fair, we can’t condemn Lenore’s actions without also condemning Hector’s. With all of that taken into consideration, my conflict is that I shouldn’t feel bad for Hector yet I still kind of do. There may be some residual thoughts of the unquestionably heroic (and admittedly flat and boring) Hector from Castlevania: Curse of Darkness. I suppose it is necessary to acknowledge that Hector and Lenore are similarly terrible and feeling bad that Lenore took advantage of his childlike naïveté aren’t mutually exclusive. I’m still processing this.

We’re drawn to sympathize with Hector because he’s a person and bad things are happening to him. We don’t think of the night creatures in the same way even though we probably should. Isaac’s conversation with Flyeyes shows that some night creatures (at least partially) remember their former lives. Additionally, Flyeyes actually thanks Isaac for his second chance at living even as a grotesque monster to which Isaac seems almost disturbed (there was no payoff... yet). Give and take. That was Lenore’s point. Hector is her slave, but he gets something in return. Ugh, this is so uncomfortable. Damn, Warren Ellis. I did not expect philosophy in my Castlevania.

Anyway...

Over the last month and a half, I’ve been thinking a lot of where the show is taking these characters. Here are some predictions:

1. Alucard is going Dark Side. Trevor and Sypha will bring him back.

2. Trevor and Sypha will get drawn into Carmilla’s plan to subjugate an entire continent.

3. No idea what happens to Saint Germain. The show was particularly coy about what the Infinite Corridor is. There’s fan speculation that Castlevania and the greenlit Devil May Cry show will be linked somehow through this plot device. I don’t want that. Keep them separate. I’m any case, I welcome more Bill Nighy.

4. Isaac’s hatred and rejection of humans will ultimately be his downfall. Given Ellis’ track record in the show, Isaac seems to be set up to fall even if he was straight up winning all over Season 3. He won’t heed the sea captain’s advice to use his knowledge to teach the world to be kind. He’s too blinded by his hatred for humans to see his path to a peaceful life. That’s dramatic irony 101.

5. It’s too obvious to have Carmilla defeated by Isaac or Hector. I kind of want it to be Trevor and Sypha, but that lacks dramatic weight since they’re unaware of each other. I kind of feel like it’s going to be Lenore.

6. How Hector’s story plays out is particularly interesting to me. There are many ways to take it. I don’t want him to develop Stockholm Syndrome. Ellis has proved to be a skilled writer so I think a reversal is possible, but it’ll be tricky.

Hot take: Lenore is playing 4D chess. The rings she gave Carmilla, Morana, and Striga either have no power or they give Lenore some advantage over them. There were moments in Season 3 when I felt she wasn’t really loyal to her sisters. She’s a manipulator, seems likely everything she does is a ruse. The other vampires view Lenore as a weak diplomat. She can’t simply overpower them. I haven’t decided if Lenore necessarily wants more power or if she just wants to be rid of the others.

With that in mind, it’s possible Hector’s slave ring isn’t actually a slave ring at all as in it may have some untold magic, but more importantly, Hector isn’t actually Lenore’s slave. She made him think she’s her slave. He’s going to be obedient because he doesn’t know he doesn’t have to be. However, this would complicate the whole implied future rape thing. If Hector actually can consent, it would imply all kinds of things I have not thought through yet (e.g. he actually desires Lenore meaning it wouldn’t be rape but remains a mind-**** either way). Maybe this is how he eventually finds out he isn’t a slave. Either way, I don’t want Ellis to try to ship Hector and Lenore. It’s too weird and gross. I also generally hate shipping characters. Best case, Lenore is manipulating Hector as a means to an end. If the slave ring actually is one, I expect Lenore to just release Hector when after her plan succeeds.

Or maybe Lenore just sucks and the text is the text: She manipulated Hector into being her slave. She’ll eventually get her comeuppance, and maybe it leads to Hector becoming a person with actual aspirations and hopefully, some penance over the whole subjugation of night creatures thing. He gives up that Devil Forgemaster life before the events of Curse of Darkness so this isn’t too much of a stretch.

TL;DR: Go watch Castlevania. It’s good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on April 20, 2020, 03:33:07 PM
Appreciated the detailed thoughts, Adrock. I've been enjoying this show quite a bit and like your insight.

I have very little knowledge of the games so characters like Saint Germain are very intriguing.

The fact that they showed Dracula in Hell makes me wonder if he will eventually return.  We now know it is possible to bring him back, so if the show runs long enough, we could see that come to fruition.

I agree that the Alucard story line was odd, and his descent into madness was way too fast. And the siblings (were they siblings?) were just way too peppy for what they had been through and what they were doing at the castle.

The ending with the judge reveal to Trevor/Sypha does feel like it was shoved in there. I agree that something about that will come back next season, though it definitely darkened their outlook about roaming the land as monster hunters.

This season felt out of place tonally between the explicit anime tiddies and jokes about beer being better than sex (though it was funny). It just seemed radically different from the previous two seasons.


So I started watching iZombie thinking it would be a light and mostly funny take on investigative crime show. First season or maybe two were ok... but it's gotten worse the longer it goes. Midway through season 4 now and just really not enjoying where the show has gone; kind of hate watching my way through as background when focusing on other things.

Yeah, first two seasons were fun up until the finale of 2. 3 was a drag, and I don't think I even finished 3. My wife started the show and lost interest in S4. I think they gave it a 5th season to close out the series (or was that 4?)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 20, 2020, 10:55:28 PM
I have very little knowledge of the games so characters like Saint Germain are very intriguing.
I don’t believe much was explicitly stated much Saint Germain in Castlevania: Curse of Darkness. It was implied that he was a time traveler (he did have time based powers during the boss fight). And he fought with Death. When you think about it, a time traveler escapes death so he would be in opposition to the physical embodiment of death, right?

Show Saint Germain is a lot more interesting (and I just enjoy Bill Nighy). The silhouette woman in the Infinite Corridor was not in the games. My guess would be a love interest. The Infinite Corridor is in the game, but it’s just a regular area toward the end with a cool sounding name.
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The fact that they showed Dracula in Hell makes me wonder if he will eventually return.  We now know it is possible to bring him back, so if the show runs long enough, we could see that come to fruition.
That was the impression I got. I love the show, but I don’t want to see it run for more than a few more seasons at most. If they resurrect Dracula, I hope they only do so once, maybe as the final boss of the show. At the same time, he seems content in hell with his wife who I was surprised to see in Hell. I’m curious if Ellis plans to explain that.
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I agree that the Alucard story line was odd, and his descent into madness was way too fast. And the siblings (were they siblings?) were just way too peppy for what they had been through and what they were doing at the castle.
It just seemed like Ellis didn’t know what to do with Alucard. Just felt like straight stalling.

I agree with your take on Taka and Sumi. Way too chipper considering they were forced into slavery and watched countless atrocities. 🤷‍♀️
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on April 21, 2020, 03:58:53 PM
It just seemed like Ellis didn’t know what to do with Alucard. Just felt like straight stalling.

I have heard of actors being contracted for x number of shows and other such deals, so it may have been forced to keep him in the season due to outside deals, especially if they wanted him to be guaranteed to return in a later season when he would have much greater importance.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kairon on April 24, 2020, 05:46:24 PM
Just started Belgravia and WOW okay Epix I'm not cancelling my subscription just yet. (Also, curse you for only releasing one episode a week!)

I honestly enjoyed Downton Abbey, but I really feel it only had 2 or 3 good seasons and a large amount of treading water/filler. I went into the first two episodes of Belgravia with really low expectations due to thinking that Julian Fellowes was hired to write it based off his name only, but I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. I think it might be based off a novel that Julian Fellowes wrote, so it's probably benefitting from him not having to make stuff up on the spot like I feel he did a lot with Downton Abbey. Finally, I LOVE the central structure of the story so far that really dispensed with the "will they/won't they" trope where only one character has a secret, that's quickly blown to smithereens by the frankness and action-oriented choices of the two grandmothers, who I take to be the real main drivers of the story, and I can't wait to watch more of this English Society spy-game/cold-war between the two of them.

And of course the cast is really strong and filled with laudable British talent. <3 Tamsin Greig. Acting talent this enjoyable can go a long way in making up for faults in other places. With how much I enjoyed the first two episodes, I'm hoping the rest of the season holds up.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 26, 2020, 06:31:53 PM
Got a weird one for one today. Just finished watching the 1st season of an Amazon Prime series called Homecoming. Julia Roberts plays a Counselor/Administrator of a new Dept. of Defense Project called "Homecoming" aimed at rehabilitating veterans returning from combat so they can be reintegrated into civilian life.

The twist is that this is a conspiracy/mystery thriller taking place simultaneously at 2 points in time: the past, where we follow Roberts' character as she goes about her job...and the present, where mysteriously everything about the project has been covered up and everyone involved is oddly evasive and conspiratorial regarding how it all went down. The present storyline largely follows a Dept. of Defense pencil-pusher investigating a "complaint" into Homecoming that no one seems to want to talk about...

Season 1 is...alright. As it's aiming for an atmosphere of paranoia, there's a lot of shots lingering on seemingly unimportant things for long periods of time. The odd performances & atmosphere almost reminds me of David Lynch's work, but there is a LOT of boring, "shot/reverse shot" camera work. I also feel like there's a lot of fat here that could have been trimmed because it feels like there's a fair amount of screen time spent on elements that either don't altogether matter or have long since been firmly established.

Season 1 will apparently be self-contained from the upcoming Season 2, which will follow a new cast of characters.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kairon on April 26, 2020, 07:17:26 PM
I always get the feeling that Amazon's Original Series are well done, but they've looked so weird so often, and Homecoming is no exception. I appreciate the volume of their output though. Yet based on the vibes from the trailer and your review, I have to admit I'm not in any rush to watch Homecoming.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 29, 2020, 09:32:08 AM
Got a weird one for one today. Just finished watching the 1st season of an Amazon Prime series called Homecoming. Julia Roberts plays a Counselor/Administrator of a new Dept. of Defense Project called "Homecoming" aimed at rehabilitating veterans returning from combat so they can be reintegrated into civilian life.

The twist is that this is a conspiracy/mystery thriller taking place simultaneously at 2 points in time: the past, where we follow Roberts' character as she goes about her job...and the present, where mysteriously everything about the project has been covered up and everyone involved is oddly evasive and conspiratorial regarding how it all went down. The present storyline largely follows a Dept. of Defense pencil-pusher investigating a "complaint" into Homecoming that no one seems to want to talk about...

Season 1 is...alright. As it's aiming for an atmosphere of paranoia, there's a lot of shots lingering on seemingly unimportant things for long periods of time. The odd performances & atmosphere almost reminds me of David Lynch's work, but there is a LOT of boring, "shot/reverse shot" camera work. I also feel like there's a lot of fat here that could have been trimmed because it feels like there's a fair amount of screen time spent on elements that either don't altogether matter or have long since been firmly established.

Season 1 will apparently be self-contained from the upcoming Season 2, which will follow a new cast of characters.

I quite enjoyed it for its oddness admittedly. It set a strange feeling which works quite well with the story.

Gangs of London - The director behind The Raid 1 and 2 made a TV series. That should be all i need to say to get BNM to watch it. It's incredibly brutal.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 29, 2020, 10:04:53 AM
Gangs of London - The director behind The Raid 1 and 2 made a TV series. That should be all i need to say to get BNM to watch it. It's incredibly brutal.

I heard about this but never even seen a trailer. So I don't really know more than it either exist or is in the works. I'll probably look it up later now that you reminded me.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on April 29, 2020, 04:32:15 PM
I heard about this but never even seen a trailer. So I don't really know more than it either exist or is in the works. I'll probably look it up later now that you reminded me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4CJ5p4XisHs

It's a Cinemax co-production with Sky so it will appear on US TV soon enough.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 05, 2020, 05:48:27 AM
Gangs of London - The director behind The Raid 1 and 2 made a TV series. That should be all i need to say to get BNM to watch it. It's incredibly brutal.

So i binged the whole season. The show definitely didnt go as brutal as the first episode, but it was an interesting story with multiple different plots that often only brushed against each other.

I had one issue with the final episode and a single point which the entire series hinges on Shaun works out that Elliot is a cop because the other undercover cop had zero security locks on his phone containing all the photos and evidence but aside from that it was quite a ride. The actor who plays Ed Dumani was fantastic, he had such stage presence about him (compared to other people who was just merely acting; this will make sense in the show) while coming off as calm and collected even while everyone else is going nuts.

However, this show gets an 18 rating in the UK (the equivalent of a USA R rating?), and is equally graphic to match.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 05, 2020, 08:07:59 PM
Been taking a break from gaming of late to try to catch up on something from my backlog: FarScape.

Several years ago, I started watching this series and got as far as, apparently, nearly the end of the 3rd season. However, for reasons I couldn't remember until recently, I stopped watching it. I couldn't remember what was going on in the show or who the characters were (a great sign of the quality of the show in general, I know), so I decided to start over.

I'm once again towards the end of the 3rd season and have almost caught up to the last thing I remember happening (the death of Talon). Overall, the show is still incredibly hit or miss, though the 3rd season is easily the most consistent. In general, though, the characters are fairly forgettable and interchangeable, and the standalone episodes fail more often than they succeed compared to the "storyline episodes." Go ahead, name a character trait of Chianna that doesn't involve her sexual promiscuity. I dare you. She's not "the thief", because she's downright bad at it and rarely attempts it. ALL of her plot threads involve characters she's screwed, metaphorically and often literally. Really, it's like that with all the characters, with only Chricton, Aeryn, and Scorpius standing out as more than 1 dimensional.

But oh boy, do I remember now why I stopped watching this show: a combination of pointless melodrama and the introduction of the worst character in the show: Jool. What...just what...were they thinking? Her whole THING is being Willie Scott from Temple of Doom, only she breaks out into ear-bleedingly shrill shrieks that literally cause metal to melt. On the subject of melodrama, I don't know why the show expects me to have ANY  emotional investment in the death of Clone Chrichton when there is LITERALLY a BACKUP Chrichton back on Moya that we've been following as well.

The show is also next to impossible to watch without subtitles because even these BluRays have some of the worst audio mixing I've ever heard in a professionally-produced TV show. Characters constantly mutter their lines under their breath inbetween INCREDIBLY LOUD special effects and miscellaneous noises/music stings.

I'll give FarScape this: the show is so fantastically cheap that you could have probably filmed an entire season of Farscape on the budget for your typical Star Trek: TNG episode. To make up for this, this show is not the least bit afraid to get really, really, REALLY WEIRD and utterly goofy. It doesn't always work, but at least combined with the fantastic work of the Jim Henson company on the puppet characters it does give the show an identity.

Looking forward to finally getting to Season 4 and Peacekeeper Wars.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on May 06, 2020, 01:29:59 AM
Upload - Worth a watch. It's like San Junipero the TV show

Hollywood - I enjoyed season one, It starts off pretty interesting. It sort of devolves into fantasy history though. The last episodes might be too upbeat. But that might be the point. Being a better version of history.

For All Mankind - another show with revision history plot, but I think this one was better/more interesting.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 06, 2020, 02:38:46 AM
I liked Upload, up until right near the end.

I'm in for S2, but I just don't like some elements towards the end of the season finale there.
Robbie Amell did a good job, and Andy Allo was gorgeous, both extremely likable.

I kept seeing comparisons to The Good Place, but it's far from being anything remotely like The Good Place outside of the general theme of "Heaven" and "Afterlife".
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 11, 2020, 06:20:06 PM
Finished Farscape + The Peacekeeper Wars.

Meh. I could write a whole lot more about why this show is so spectacularly mediocre, but my computer's busted right now & I don't care to punch it all in on my phone. Suffice it to say that Peacekeeper Wars was supposed to contain everything the writers wanted to do in a 5th season. The movie is 3 hours long, and it only feels a little rushed and is fairly enjoyable overall. The movie is Farscape with all the typical Farscape filler bullshit cut out, and it's about the length of 4 episodes. The typical season is 5-6 times that length. That sums up Farscape's problem rather nicely: it came out in between the era of standalone TV and the era of serialized TV. It tries to do both fairly unsuccessfully. The filler is boring and doesn't tend to advance the characters, and the serialized episodes are so spread out as to lose their dramatic edge.

There's a lot of good in Farscape, and I think a lot of characters were "fixed" in late season 3/early season 4. But there's just so much unengaging padding.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kairon on May 12, 2020, 07:08:49 PM
My Mom really wanted to watch Upload, so I relented. Ended up binging it for most of that Saturday when we did. I was VERY impressed with how enjoyable and easy it was to watch, definitely what I like to think of as "good tv" in that it's got enough dramatic excitement to keep you watching, but also a good amount of crowd-pleasing tv moments so I can relax while I'm watching it instead of girding myself for serious battle. Also, as with most tv, lots of beautiful people in beautiful places falling smiling at each other. /shrugs I watched how many seasons of Royal Pains, so I can't exactly complain about that aspect of TV, just point it out.

I honestly think Upload was the first Amazon Series in a long time I've given a shot and ended up liking unreservedly. I'd rather have 1 season of this than 2 seasons of Jack Ryan, for example. I also liked all the juxtaposed corporate mergers they'd throw in as near-future pop culture gags.

Aside from that I recently did give Quibi a try. Unfortunately I only got 3-4 (10 minute long) episodes into Anna Kendrick's "Dummy" before I put it down. It wasn't bad, just I'm not sure the 10 minute format works. I honestly had the most fun watching a cooking show traveling to places in Italy with endangered pasta shapes, so maybe a 10 minute episode is just a difficult time frame to make work with scripted stuff right now until they figure some things out.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on May 13, 2020, 07:45:58 PM
[adult swim] has mastered 11 minute shows, so I'm surprised to hear that quibi isn't worth it.  I'd like to check it out, especially for Reno 911, but I'm not sold on much else.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 18, 2020, 11:19:51 AM
Magic for Humans (all 3 seasons)

I don't know how long the episodes are on this, but I somehow finished all 3 seasons without even realizing it in about a days time...? Humor is a little dry and the production is a bit cheesy at times, but I think that plays into the dry humor for some of if (Magic for Susan's!), but some of the best parts are the reactions he's getting from these bits.

He says there are no camera tricks or anything of the kind, but I don't really believe that. Especially in a scene where he say "the camera will not cut away" and he disappears off one side of the screen and shows up in a vehicle changed barely 2 seconds later from the other side of the screen, which is impossible w/o a twin or double or "camera tricks".
But one of the best ones was the "Magic Show in the Park" where he made people believe they were invisible.
This is a easy one to watch in segments between other stuff, or apparently binge right through without realizing you were at the last episode, but it's pretty entertaining, and has lot so moments where you'll be laughing and even a few where you're thinking "What a dick" but with a chuckle and a smile, such as the Family on the corner given a jar of quarters.

The magic itself is pretty good if you're into that, but so are the reactions to some of the segments.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ejamer on May 19, 2020, 12:06:16 PM
Just finished Castlevania season 3 (a month late). I rather enjoyed it! There are some odd points for sure, most of which are already discussed, but I think the slow roll this season was mostly interesting.

The resurrection was a success, until Big D told the living all to F-off and mind their own business. Seeing a Dracula who has found happiness in Hell, and actively chose not to return when the gate was opened, was a nice touch and left me guessing about a couple of points that might (or might not) happen later.

The Legion battle was great, although I found his motivation unclear. Was it doe to a fellow Forgemaster being attacked, or the magical enslavement of an entire city that enraged Isaac enough to risk his own path to vengeance? Enslavement and/or compulsion (whether by forces internal or external, natural or supernatural) definitely felt like a common theme in the season.

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I agree that the Alucard story line was odd, and his descent into madness was way too fast. And the siblings (were they siblings?) were just way too peppy for what they had been through and what they were doing at the castle.
It just seemed like Ellis didn’t know what to do with Alucard. Just felt like straight stalling.

I agree with your take on Taka and Sumi. Way too chipper considering they were forced into slavery and watched countless atrocities. 🤷‍♀️

The whole Alucard plot line felt undercooked. They could've teased out some interesting ideas about Alucard's motivations (survivor guilt after killing his father, desire to live/love as part of the human world versus isolation) and contrasted them with the psychopathic behavior of Taka and Sumi. But the characterization never really materialized so the whole arc felt hollow. Still, it seemed like more of a side story or diversion from the main action... so I didn't really care.

I'll happily watch another season when it gets released.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 16, 2020, 11:52:10 AM
Black Lightning S3

So I decided to go back and pick up this show since I've had time to catch up on just about everything.
I know this show has been dealing with Black Community issues and perspective from the onset, but it's just crazy how much this has parallels to whats going on in the world right now.
So they are dealing with a deadly poison and I believe a virus that targets Metahumans specifically, and the "Authorities" are abusive in the enforcement of oppression of the people of Freeland, as they try to round up all the Metahumans.
So at the point in the show where I am, the Metahumans wants to fight for their rights, the ASA (Gov Police Force similar to ICE but for metahumans) and their blatant disregard for specific peoples lives nor anyone else that would speak out for Metahumans or against the ASA, and the public display of all this is about to lead to a movement against ASA Violence and Occupation.
I'm curious to see if the parallels continue.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on July 16, 2020, 04:03:42 PM
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron Blooded Orphans

I had almost forgotten how much I liked the Gundam franchise.  I remember really enjoying each series as it came to Toonami.  I was really into Gundam Wing and enjoyed 08th MS Team, G Gundam, and the others.  This came to Toonami some time ago, but I kept missing episodes and with this franchise that makes it hard to follow.  Thankfully, it's on Netflix.

The premise of this one is basically Mars has been colonized, but is being drained of resources by the Earth Economic Blocks (basically just unified continent nations).  And a big war 300 years prior left a single military group in charge of keeping the peace.  The story follows a group or martian orphans, children who work at a paramilitary base.  They call kids recruited/abducted into piloting mobile suits for combat "human debris" but they're basically the equivalent of child rebel soldiers.  The children are also subject to some mild genetic experimentation.  Basically, the protagonists fight for their freedom, then struggle to find a place in the world while getting caught up with the military organization.

The series is overall great.  The series starts with the group being selected for an escort mission, but conflict arises immediately when people want that person dead.  It does a good job of showing how the difficult choices and alliances the group (or their leader) makes have consequences that push the story.  The character kids' commitment to the group and leader are constantly reinforced as they suffer major losses which each one feeling pretty heavy.  Despite the success of the group, driven by their access to a Gundam, they are just kids getting caught up in conflicts larger than themselves, and eventually that's what drives the series to its ending.

Highly recommend if you like action sci-fi anime and don't mind sadness.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 20, 2020, 06:35:21 PM
Black Lightning S3

So I decided to go back and pick up this show since I've had time to catch up on just about everything.
I know this show has been dealing with Black Community issues and perspective from the onset, but it's just crazy how much this has parallels to whats going on in the world right now.
So they are dealing with a deadly poison and I believe a virus that targets Metahumans specifically, and the "Authorities" are abusive in the enforcement of oppression of the people of Freeland, as they try to round up all the Metahumans.
So at the point in the show where I am, the Metahumans wants to fight for their rights, the ASA (Gov Police Force similar to ICE but for metahumans) and their blatant disregard for specific peoples lives nor anyone else that would speak out for Metahumans or against the ASA, and the public display of all this is about to lead to a movement against ASA Violence and Occupation.
I'm curious to see if the parallels continue.

Well, I finished S3 just now. (I know.... I should be working, but I can multi-task.... :/)
and between this show and what was being done in the MCU w/ Falcon and the Winter Soldier (Pandemic storyline that may have been removed due to... ummmm... real life reason event), Fantasy Media is touching so close to reality with the timing on subject matter shaping these events.

There was a kind of hole in the story when Crisis happened, but I think they glossed over it well enough. I don't really have any intentions of checking out Crisis, as it didn't sound like it turned out all that well, even if it wasn't all that bad. But I think BL was fairly decent for what they have got going on here. Just the fact that they can draw on the real Black dilemma to fuel the underlying struggle of the characters, tapping into real history to paint a familiar depth to the burden of the black community, and then sprinkle it all with that magical negro coating of Superhero show. I with it.

I just wish that if they trying to keep they identities a secret, they probablys shouldn't walk around as a superhero family with the disguise of "no one will recognize me with these sunglasses on, especially if I walk around with my family, who is also wearing glasses.... except for my other daughter who is wearing an eye mask".... smh. I guess the voice changer helps a little. LOL
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on July 28, 2020, 05:36:31 PM
Last weeks episode of Agents of Shield was fantastic. Quite possibly the best in the series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on August 14, 2020, 03:47:05 PM
And goodbye to AOS entirely. The show had many problems over the years - not being allowed by Marvel to use anything to do with the movies or even other comic characters, being ignored by the movies, budgetary issues (which the showrunners acknowledged after the final episode) - but the characters really grew into their positions and Chloe Bennet (Daisy) really matured into the role over the years.

It got 7 seasons and ended on its own terms which is a lot better than most shows these days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 14, 2020, 03:54:28 PM
I have yet to watch the latest episode.
I need to do that asap.

I'm gonna miss this show, but I really hope they managed to stick the ending, since the story has gotten a bit wild post Ghost Rider, with all the time travel and space stuff.

edit: just finished the series.
It didn't hit the notes I was expecting with the farewell. As in it wasn't quite as touching of a way to say goodbye as say when they said by to Bobbi & Lance(?). But I did enjoy it. I'll probably watch again as I had to pause once or twice for work reasons....

But hopefully it leaves enough of an opening that some of these characters may pop up in the MCU Proper.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 18, 2020, 12:50:22 PM
Is the entire series on D+ now? Was planning to pick it up again after it all dropped. Last time I watched was with the digital world/Ada arc.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 18, 2020, 07:32:00 PM
Not yet, and apparently there was an additional 20 minutes of didn't that directly referred to the "snap" that will probably be attached once the series drops on D+
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 21, 2020, 03:28:56 PM
I just finished S1 of The Witcher....

honestly i was a little confused till I realized that it was jumping around between present and past depending on who they were focusing on. They didn't make that apparent till about Ep6, unless I just missed something.

I'm not very familiar with the videogame, even though I do think I might own it on Steam.
Overall it was pretty interesting, as I burned through it in the last 48hrs (8x1hr+ episodes), and I'm glad this is getting a 2nd season, otherwise, that ending would've sucked big time, as they literally just kinda didn't get to the conclusion of everything that was going on. More like an intermission point before what I would've guessed might've been the last 2 episodes.

warning, lots of nudity, some sex scenes, graphic violence and blood/gore.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kairon on August 27, 2020, 06:25:08 PM
Recently finished "The English Game" on Netflix. I hadn't paid much attention to it or its trailers so I was very pleasantly surprised with how the story unfolded (about the rise of paid working class players - "professionalism" - in football (soccer) and how that threatened the established high class teams of moneyed gentlemen from upper crust schools), and especially with how it's morality wasn't straight down the center good vs evil. It's sorta more about the rise of popularity and money in the sport, as well as the evolution of new playing strategies and labor issues of the era.

Anyways, watched it with my folks and I didn't know at all until a couple episodes in that Julian Fellowes had been involved. Wow! I tend to be suspicious of Julian Fellowes because I fee like almost all the Downton Abbey seasons post season 1 were flawed in many respects and didn't live up to their promise. However, between Belgravia and The English Game I've thoroughly enjoyed two projects relating to him now! Maybe he works best in punchy limited series that actually END as opposed to the long must-milk-the-franchise-for-all-its-worth slog that Downton Abbey became.

It's always a joy to watch something and play that "I don't want to use IMDB game" when you recognize actors. With this series I immediately knew one of the main characters was from Vikings (The first episode was fun because I then couldn't figure out if he was English or Scandinavian by decent... or both?), and it took me a couple episodes to realize that the actress playing his wife had had a part lasting a couple episodes in Game of Thrones before Sansa and Reek threw her over a wall(?). There's this last actor though that tickled my brain but I just never identified and... *checks IMDB* OMG he was Ian in the British production of Shameless! Man, can't believe I didn't figure that out!
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Kairon on August 27, 2020, 06:27:11 PM
I just finished S1 of The Witcher....

honestly i was a little confused till I realized that it was jumping around between present and past depending on who they were focusing on. They didn't make that apparent till about Ep6, unless I just missed something.

I'm not very familiar with the videogame, even though I do think I might own it on Steam.
Overall it was pretty interesting, as I burned through it in the last 48hrs (8x1hr+ episodes), and I'm glad this is getting a 2nd season, otherwise, that ending would've sucked big time, as they literally just kinda didn't get to the conclusion of everything that was going on. More like an intermission point before what I would've guessed might've been the last 2 episodes.

warning, lots of nudity, some sex scenes, graphic violence and blood/gore.

I'm not familiar with the games or books either. Did it bother you he time jumping? I figured it out fairly quickly and I guess upon first watching it it was a neat gimmick, but honestly I don't get the urge to rewatch that first season. Maybe that's because the trick isn't fun the second time through, or maybe because it's like what you said, all this is prologue to the actual action.

Boy if Netflix cancels this series after 2 seasons like they have been doing for so many of their series lately...
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 27, 2020, 07:12:26 PM
It wasn't so much that it bothered me, but I knew something was off with the time line kinda early on (ep3?) as certain things didn't quite make sense., but they didn't make it obvious and spell out that they were jumping back and forth till late in the season.

But, yeah, they really ended the first season right before the climax finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on August 28, 2020, 01:55:46 AM
Lovecraft Country

The first episode was pretty good.

The second episode they tried to cram too much stuff in. The second episode was kind of like a bad movie made by Full Moon.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 28, 2020, 02:00:24 PM
I just finished S1 of The Witcher....

honestly i was a little confused till I realized that it was jumping around between present and past depending on who they were focusing on. They didn't make that apparent till about Ep6, unless I just missed something.

I'm not very familiar with the videogame, even though I do think I might own it on Steam.
Overall it was pretty interesting, as I burned through it in the last 48hrs (8x1hr+ episodes), and I'm glad this is getting a 2nd season, otherwise, that ending would've sucked big time, as they literally just kinda didn't get to the conclusion of everything that was going on. More like an intermission point before what I would've guessed might've been the last 2 episodes.

warning, lots of nudity, some sex scenes, graphic violence and blood/gore.

I'm not familiar with the games or books either. Did it bother you he time jumping? I figured it out fairly quickly and I guess upon first watching it it was a neat gimmick, but honestly I don't get the urge to rewatch that first season. Maybe that's because the trick isn't fun the second time through, or maybe because it's like what you said, all this is prologue to the actual action.

Boy if Netflix cancels this series after 2 seasons like they have been doing for so many of their series lately...

I think it will at least get three. Netflix has stated before that three is the magic number for their "return on value/diminishing returns" and that is why so many shows end by three seasons. There are exceptions, and considering this was Netflix's attempt to capture the medieval fantasy Game of Thrones crowd I can see it being one of the few to get more than three. The big question will be the production costs. They wouldn't want to keep up massive expenses unless there was a massive audience draw or cultural presence (like with Stranger Things).

My wife and I put together the time changes and enjoyed that aspect of the viewing experience. We both plan to rewatch (she already started on her own) so it does seem rewatchable.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 01, 2020, 09:40:03 PM
Been watching a lot of stuff lately, including various anime (but that's a conversation for a different thread):

Samurai Jack - Never got around to watching this show when it was new, but it's on BluRay now so I thought I'd try it since it's so revered. Unfortunately, while I really respect what this series does to go against the grain of then-traditional western animation, I can't ultimately say that I care much for it.

I think in a post-Avatar: TLA world, this show is a hard sell. There are no set rules. There are no set characters. There is no attempt whatsoever to establish a set world so the viewer can understand the various stakes & how anything anyone does actually matters. Most episodes have very little, if any story, outside of "Jack wanders into an area, and he gets attacked. Now here's the fight." Considering how the show ends, perhaps it's fitting that the show never attempts to make you feel like anything matters.

If I'm feeling particularly generous, I'd say you could cut out the entire 2nd & 4th seasons & most of the 1st, and you'd lose nothing. Seasons 3 & 5 were unusually good, mostly because they made an effort at actual storytelling and the art style toned down a bit on the color saturation. The animation itself is consistently great and occasionally still mesmerizing (Jack vs. the Shinobi, Jack & the Haunted House). I just wish it was put to better use than just fight scenes.

Eureka - I've seen the show previously, but hadn't watched it in the better part of a decade and it just hit BluRay so I thought I'd rewatch it. Overall, I'd say the show holds up, but its reliance on formula makes it a very hard sit at times. The show is noticeably running out of ideas by the 3rd season, which is probably why the show had a soft reboot in Season 4 to bring it into continuity with Warehouse 13. The BluRay transfer also isn't that great, particularly in scenes with low lighting. I watched the show up to the end of Season 3 to switch over to...

Warehouse 13 - Still in the 1st season of my rewatch of this, but I gotta say this season holds up way better than I remembered it. I remembered the 1st season being pretty rough & bland, but in rewatching it I'd say the show stuck the landing pretty firmly early on. It helps, of course, that Claudia (hallowed be her name) gets introduced very early into the season to inject some much needed energy & quirkiness to the series. There's a concerted effort into building up the series' lore early on that I've always appreciated.

One amusing thing about Warehouse 13's 1st season is that I don't think the show's writers were confident in whether they were going to go down Eureka's pseudo-science route or a purely magical route in regards to how the artifacts work...so they try valiantly to try to come up with scientific explanations for how blatantly magical devices work. It's rather adorable considering later seasons will just throw their hands up in the air and go " **** it, it's magic."

I'd also like to note that Universal's official BluRays for Warehouse 13 (so far) are pretty stunning from a picture standpoint. This is noticeable upgrade from Eureka's transfer. More than that, though, Warehouse 13 just looks like it had much stronger production values than Eureka did. Eureka's shot like a sitcom, whereas Warehouse 13 is shot like a drama. This leads to much more interesting cinematography and WAY better lighting, even in night shots.

Where Eureka has Warehouse 13 firmly beat is in the special effects. Warehouse 13's CG always looked especially cheesy (like a PS3 launch cutscene), and HD doesn't do it any favors. There are also some Season 1 artifacts, most noticeably the Electrical Spine artifact, that rank among the least-convincing in the show's history.

Overall, the show is just pure comfort food, and I still enjoy it as much now as I did back when it first aired, which is rare, really.  I'll be going back to Eureka once Warehouse 13 does its first crossover episodes with Eureka in Season 2.

I've also really missed the original Warehouse 13 intro, you know...back when TV shows still did those. Universal, unfortunately, is currently blocking un-garbled versions of the intro...because...but here's a version of it.


BMM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm3HO68Iy4E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mm3HO68Iy4E)

The song itself:


BMM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboZV8yi9gE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZboZV8yi9gE)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 01, 2020, 11:52:29 PM
Speaking of Avatar: The Last Air Bender, I recently completed a re-watch of the show. I made a twitter thread about the experience. (https://twitter.com/nickmitch89/status/1286064200708763650?s=20)  I really can't understate how good of a show this was.  Book One is criticized for being a bit "monster of the week" but they do a considerable amount of world building in those early episodes, and more than a few characters and themes come back by Book Three. 

I really liked the character arcs for some of the main cast, especially Prince Zuko.  Even Sokka matures gradually throughout.  The only person who doesn't change much is Uncle Iroh, but he didn't have to.

Anyway, I remember being frustrated with how the episodes aired as a kid.  I never felt like I knew when the new ones came on and never caught re-runs.  So, binge watching them (over time) on Netflix was great for me.  I saw a couple that I don't think I had actually seen, and I had only ever seen the ending once.

10/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 30, 2020, 01:20:44 PM
Euphoria on HBO Max

Zenedaya killed it in this one. I know she won an award for this show, and now I know why. She really truly brought her character to life. I felt what she felt, and understood it as she understood it, as if we were recalling a shared experience.
If you don't know what this show is, it's about a troubled teen going through addiction problems and mental issues just trying to deal with her fucked up highschool life. But it's not just about her, it's about the other people at her school, other people in town and how everyone is in a way connected.

I don't want to really dive into the specifics, but just know this show is worth the watch.
It's not a kid friendly drama as there is drugs, nudity, sex, language, and other adult situations going on. But I picked this show up earlier this week, and finished all 8 episodes of the only season so far, just now. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on November 07, 2020, 02:14:03 AM
Election Night 2020

Didn't seem like the writers knew how to end it, so they just kinda didn't?

-/10 until they actually air a finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 07, 2020, 03:44:55 AM
Election Night 2020

Didn't seem like the writers knew how to end it, so they just kinda didn't?

-/10 until they actually air a finale.

Well, I got he behind the scene scoop on this one.... They had a finale planned, but requested and got granted a last second episode order extension, since it was apparent the series was about to get cancelled.
Soooo, there were lots of last second rewrites to accommodate for the last second extended episode order to stretch out the drama before coming to the inevitable conclusion of a mini-series extended long beyond it's original premise. They wanted to stretch out the ratings and make sure the series had a huge build up leading to a satisfying ending.

Honestly, this show has just been crazy from the get go. Way to unrealistic, and no way any of this would happen in real life. I know ya'll gonna say "it's just a TV show", but damn, I feel like they were trying to base this in reality, and I really think they missed the mark. It just seemed like they were making **** up as they went and didn't much thought into a believable storyline for a majority if the series, and especially these last second extended episodes so far.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on November 07, 2020, 10:35:35 PM
Election Night 2020

Didn't seem like the writers knew how to end it, so they just kinda didn't?

-/10 until they actually air a finale.

Well, I got he behind the scene scoop on this one.... They had a finale planned, but requested and got granted a last second episode order extension, since it was apparent the series was about to get cancelled.
Soooo, there were lots of last second rewrites to accommodate for the last second extended episode order to stretch out the drama before coming to the inevitable conclusion of a mini-series extended long beyond it's original premise. They wanted to stretch out the ratings and make sure the series had a huge build up leading to a satisfying ending.

Honestly, this show has just been crazy from the get go. Way to unrealistic, and no way any of this would happen in real life. I know ya'll gonna say "it's just a TV show", but damn, I feel like they were trying to base this in reality, and I really think they missed the mark. It just seemed like they were making **** up as they went and didn't much thought into a believable storyline for a majority if the series, and especially these last second extended episodes so far.

So, the finale got dropped completely out of no where this am.  Had no idea until it got spoiled on Twitter.

You're right in that they missed the mark trying to ground whatever this was in some form of reality.  There were times where not only were the writers grasping at straws, but so were the characters themselves! It felt like everyone just talked on and on, in circles, trying to stall for time.

I guess the ending was ok.  It seemed they they tried to go for a best-of-five or best-of-seven type thing, but maybe abandoned it?  Also, I don't think anything ever happened with the Alaska subplot, but they made it seem like it didn't matter, so whatever.

5/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on November 08, 2020, 02:25:37 AM
You're stealing my jokes. Though, I was waiting for January 20th. We may have the checks written, but we have to wait for them to clear.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 08, 2020, 11:11:49 AM
Shows not over yet.... Election Night 2020 was just a "special mini-series". but I hear there's a post credit scene we might want to stick around for once we get to the actual series finale.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on November 12, 2020, 11:38:18 PM
Moonbase 8

John C. Reilly, Fred Armisen, and Tim Heidecker play wannabe astronauts working in a NASA prototype for a moon colony in the Arizona desert. As you'd expect from that cast it's fairly silly, but I enjoyed the pilot and I'm going to keep watching.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on November 17, 2020, 05:26:47 PM
Shows not over yet.... Election Night 2020 was just a "special mini-series". but I hear there's a post credit scene we might want to stick around for once we get to the actual series finale.

I wish they'd just end it already.  The main guy has been going on a prologue series of fights and is 1-25 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-loses-big-in-pennsylvania-as-his-post-election-litigation-flounders/).  Just embarrassing.  The conflict isn't even believable at that point.

Then you have crap like this:
(https://i.imgur.com/lDODt8r.png)

Like, jeeze, spike the ball much?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 18, 2020, 02:09:27 PM
The Boys S2 - Someone said somewhere that whenever the boys gets directly into confrontation with any supes, or Starlight against any of the other supes, they have just four options, always using at least one:

1 - Run (which they use as much as possible)
2- Another supe turns up and interferes
3 - Kimiko supports enough to achieve something else
4 - Blackmail

4 was used extensively through the season, once directly with Butcher and Noir, and Starlight used it repeatedly through the season. 3 was used when Kimiko's side stories tied back to the main plot. 2 was used almost every single time including the battle in the final episode.


Deep's story was a single isolated storythread that only connects back to the main story twice, and the second time it was purely for A-Train to get the info on Stormfront - then plot-wise abandoned him again. You could have cut him out entirely, or just made him recurring, and have A-Train run into him in the church and achieve the same result.

I am aware a bit of what happens in the books,
but since someone said that i said unsee that now and its kinda spoiled the season.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on November 18, 2020, 04:19:13 PM
Deep's story was a single isolated storythread that only connects back to the main story twice, and the second time it was purely for A-Train to get the info on Stormfront - then plot-wise abandoned him again. You could have cut him out entirely, or just made him recurring, and have A-Train run into him in the church and achieve the same result.
Yeah, that was my main issue with Season 2. The Deep accomplishes very little in relation to how much screen time he gets. His main contribution is talking to fish in order to recover the camera with the video Queen Maeve used to blackmail Homelander. In fact, I would go as far as saying The Deep hasn't served much purpose since the first episode as the catalyst for Starlight's disillusionment with The Seven. If I'm being generous, the writers used The Deep to introduce Definitely-Not-The-Church-of-Scientology The Church of the Collective. They spent a lot of time with that sub-plot without much payoff so far. Yes, that character (Definitely-Not-AOC) is the one blowing people's heads off. Did we need Definitely-Not-The-Church-of-Scientology to accomplish that? I'm not entirely convinced.

The Deep is ostracized from both The Seven and the main plot thread. They've positioned him as a shitty person who ultimately gets his comeuppance. That could have been a wrap for him. However, if he's going to be around, the writers should find a way to bring him back into the fold except they don't get there (yet?). In Season 2, The Deep apparently doesn't learn any valuable lessons or make a meaningful progression as far as character arc (not sure that's a spoiler since that's my opinion). He's still shitty at the end of the season. Sure, so is Homelander, but he's one of the main antagonists. The Deep is just there. I don't know if the plan is for him to do something extra important later, but right now, it feels like the writers are stalling. Reminds me of Alucard in Season 3 of Castlevania. He has a season long arc that moves his plot and character very little, and what did move, could have been accomplished in far less time.

Stormfront getting her **** kicked in by Queen Maeve, Starlight, and Kimiko was earned and awesome, and I was there for it. About that scene:
(https://i.imgur.com/cRm1K11.gif)
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on November 19, 2020, 01:36:42 PM

  • Hughie, Frenchie, and Mother's Milk should be hella-dead. Stormfront just decides to casually toss them aside instead of murder-death-killing them immediately.


Plot Armour is more powerful than anything the other supes have.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 26, 2020, 02:53:12 PM
So my daughter got me into Anime again....

we did a deeeeeep dive into Naruto/Shippuden/Boruto/Rock Lee spinoff
we finished 150+ episodes into One Piece, and just found more on Hulu
I think there was another series or two

but currently watching:
- Full Metal Anarchist: Brotherhood (few episodes left)
- Death Note (she really got into this one.... only a few episodes to go)

just did a solo dive on
- Attack on Titan (again) now that I found it in English (making sure it's not too much for her) - seems violent, but nothing too much for her. Might just have her skip it and watch the kids version, but that's subtitled.


and she wants to watch the following which I just found in English on Hulu:
- My Hero Academia
- One Punch Man (I watched the first season on Netflix w/ the English Subs)

and eventually I will have her watch DragonBall/Z/Super/whatever

any other good Anime's you all recommend that my daughter and I would like?
I'm sure the above selection will last a long time, but we can apparently watch several different series at a time, so shouldn't be an issue to rotate a few different shows.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on November 26, 2020, 03:47:06 PM
Oh no! Anime World Report has gotten to BnM now too! It's more infectious than Covid! Where's ShyGuy to fight the good fight against anime?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: pokepal148 on January 11, 2021, 02:14:51 AM
I feel like I have a perfectly good anime thread you could use for that instead of feeding the megathread again but whatever.

My biggest anime recommendation is "The Great Pretender" but that's difficult to recommend to a younger audience.

RWBY is anime adjacent and is a really fun watch despite it's issues but it gets incredibly dark around the third season finale when everything pretty much goes to ****. It's not as dark as The Great Pretender but it's still pretty dark. It's a show with the kind of scope and ambition that something like Avatar: The Last Airbender had and while it doesn't have the same consistent quality that Avatar did it's still a really fun series. It's especially impressive considering it's a web video series.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on January 13, 2021, 11:02:21 AM
The Expanse - This show has pulled off something that Person of Interest was the last show to achieve: get me invested in these characters and their stories. The characters in Season 5 are directly referring to specific stories and events thats happened through the series (notably 1, 2 and 4), characters are asking about their histories and everyone has distinct motivations that is both compatible and sometimes incompatible with those they consider allies. The show takes a serious, more frank look at scifi rapid acceleration and deceleration hurts, lack of gravity kills, characters wear seat belts in space, characters born in space almost never go to land because their bodies cannot handle it and then mines stories out of that.

Then there's some unconventional characters - Amos Burton is one of the most "simply complex" characters on TV. Everything is literal and direct he even says in one episode "if you're gonna kill me then kill me, you have a clean shot to the back of my head", and comes off as one-note until you understand why - and then the context changes everything he says even in retrospect. It's such a balancing act that makes the most potentially dull character very human.

Where Game of Thrones fell over was that the series outpaced the books. The Expanse never will because the series ends (season 6) before the books finish, and the writers are in involved with scripts and production.

If you haven't started this series you absolutely should.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2021, 06:29:33 AM
Schitt$ Creek

This was such a great show. I started it late one night in March and finished the entire 5 season run earlier tonight. General premise is rich family hits financial ruin and has to move to small town with nearly nothing to their name.
Clear favorite in this show I didn't expect to love as much as I did was David Rose. (actual son to the father played by Eugene Levy). Overly expressive in his mannerism's, voice, and personality.
followed up by Moira Rose whose grandiloquence rhetoric is a delectation upon ones own auditory perceptions (I don't know it that makes sense... but if you know the character, you know what I mean :D )

Those 2 clearly steal the show, but there are lots of characters to love in this.
It's definitely a comedy, but it has it's touching moments. You see how this family affects this small town, and more importantly how this small town affects this family that's been uprooted from their carefree lifestyle and grounded into the common folk lifestyle.

I may have finished the series on Netflix, but I noticed there is also a movie or something else left to watch. I'm hoping it a continuation or a follow-up and conclusion, as I absolutely want more of Schitt$ Creek.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 26, 2021, 06:41:29 AM
Invincible

Animated Super Hero show, much in the like of The Boys meets Justice League, although I'm also reminded a bit of Venture Bros even though I haven't seen that show since S2 or S3.
Let's just say the bloody gruesomeness of The Boys, the humor and style of the Venture Bros, and the presentation and animation of Justice League. If that doesn't peak, your interest... then I'm not sure what more to say.

This is a Prime Original, and just started tonight. First 3 eps are up, and then airs weekly. All episodes were around an hour long.
It's also based on some graphic novel series, and you may have heard of it. I've never heard of it, but it's right up my alley.

So far, I'm into it. All the opening characters are clearly analogs for heroes we know, as the opening heroes are mostly "Justice League". It branches out into more hero types fairly quickly (like JL Unlimited), and the action is very gruesome and graphic. There are blood and guts. People die. this is not for little children or those easily turned off by violence and blood.
But there is a good amount of light humor and even some small moments of relevant social commentary.

It mostly follows the "Superman" and his "Superboy", but it's not all Boy Scout Wonderbread theater, there some intrigue going on here.

Definitely worth watching. available on Amazon Prime
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: M.K.Ultra on April 14, 2021, 07:22:18 PM
I just finished season 1 of Raised By Wolves. I was browsing HBO Max and it seemed like a generic sci-fi show at first but it has Ridley Scott directing the first couple episodes. It also deals with some AI themes that are in the Alien series. I thought it got better as the season progressed and by the end I was excited for more. Recommended for Ridley Scott and sci-fi fans that have HBO Max.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 18, 2021, 10:01:39 PM
so has anyone else checked out Invincible? still watching? all caught up?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on April 18, 2021, 10:37:19 PM
I watched the first two episodes. It's alright. The animation is a little uneven.

I got to the fifth volume of the comic (not sure how many issues that actually is). A friend let me borrow up to volume 8. It's a pretty faithful adaptation so far from what I remember.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on May 03, 2021, 10:15:46 AM
For all the issues Batwoman has (the first half of Season 2 was extremely heavy on the "i'm black and in america" angle), Rachel Skasten who plays Alice is absolutely perfect casting in the Arrowverse. She alone saves the show as far as im concerned.

Melissa Benoist as Supergirl, Brandon Routh as Ray Palmer and Caity Lotz as Sara Lance are the other three.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on May 09, 2021, 11:01:47 PM
The Good Place

Second viewing. I binged the entire series this week. Wasn’t planning on it, kind of just happened. The Good Place is really good, and it may have supplanted Wonderfalls as my favorite show. I recently rewatched most of Wonderfalls’ lone season, and some parts did not age that well after 17 years. Maybe I’ll feel the same about The Good Place. I clearly really like these kinds of high concept shows. They’re similar in that they both follow kind of a dirtbag character who is positioned by circumstance to become a better person.

UNMARKED SPOILERS BELOW











The Good Place is not a perfect show. Jason was perhaps too dumb. I get that he was there mostly for laughs, and I like that he had moments when his inane analogies were weirdly poignant. However, Jason was dialed to 11 when 8 or 9 would have worked better for me. He is definitely the weakest of the main cast. At the same time, the entire main cast is great. I'm thoroughly amazed this was Jameela Jamil's first acting role (she has excellent comedic timing and her facial expressions are *chef's kiss*). Janet is easily my favorite. And I did buy pairing Janet and Jason which is odd because...

I’m conflicted on pairing Eleanor and Chidi. Their relationship grew over the course of the show’s run, and for the most part, the writers did well (particularly the end). I just really had trouble getting past the show’s first season twist in relation to it. They’re in The Bad Place and Michael paired Eleanor and Chidi specifically because they’re the absolute worst people for each other yet they’re still perfect for each other. I don’t know how that could ever translate into those two becoming lovers.

Despite that, the writing was very good. Most jokes landed even and especially the second time around. I like that the plot kept moving. With the way the first season ended, it would have been really easy to retread ground yet the writers wisely swerved and kept pushing the plot and the characters forward. They could have really dragged the show out, and it was much better because they didn’t.

The final season is the worst of the four yet still really good especially the finale. Its main problem: it was too short. The writers rushed through several plot points, and some characters did not get a proper resolution. John complicated Tahani’s afterlife a little bit then he was just kind of there. He disappeared for a few episodes then popped up in the finale for five seconds. Most of the characters started off as caricatures or archetypes then evolved past that. John never did; he never got the chance to be more than “stock gay man” which was frustrating to me. I guess one could argue he was a minor character thus not that important in the grand scheme of the show. I can see it if I squint. Then again, Simone played such a big role in Season 3, returned in Season 4, complicated things a little bit then disappeared until the finale. One or two more episodes to give both John and Simone a bit more depth and more to do would have been nice. Especially Simone. The writers could have done more with someone who doesn't believe they're in the afterlife. She was a great character so I didn't think she was utilized as well as she could have been.

Side-note: Brent was surprisingly handled really well as a minor antagonist in Season 4. The moment he realized what a **** bag he was and legitimately tried to apologize to Chidi was one my favorite moments in the entire show. Brent almost seemed like a caricature then I think about who our president was, and nah, Brent’s character was weirdly like the most realistic one.

The penultimate episode was one of the most frustrating for me. The group finally got to The Good Place, and it sucked. That was an appropriate swerve and completely made sense thematically and philosophically. The Good Place Committee also tricked Michael into becoming the Good Place Architect then proceeded to **** off entirely. The implication was they didn’t know how to make The Good Place not suck so they passed the buck onto the first immortal being they could. Sure. The group (Team Cockroach/Soul Squad) fixed this in one weirdly brief scene. They could have gotten at least two or three episodes out of that (i.e. brainstorming, failed attempts, more scenes from the Judge, Shawn, and the committee even though I find Paul Scheer thoroughly unfunny). I don't know what the best way to handle that would have been. The potential additional episodes wouldn't be enough for an extra season so maybe split the final season.

Anyway, I am a fan of appropriate endings, and The Good Place’s finale may be my favorite of any show including both Futurama and Breaking Bad. Each main cast member was given an earned ending. Eleanor convincing Mindy St. Claire to enter the system was the only thing that felt rushed. It answered a question I didn’t need answered but was glad I got anyway. Seeing Mindy St. Claire’s test would be a neat El Camino-like epilogue should Michael Schurr ever go that direction (doubt it happens though).

One thing I wanted to touch on is the counter-argument that The Last Door is afterlife suicide. I don’t agree because it fundamentally, intentionally, and problematically distorts and diminishes why most people die by suicide. For the most part, people don’t intentionally end their own life because they’re content and complete as in the show. They do so because they can’t live with the pain, whatever that may be. I’m not down with that reading of the finale.

Finally, even though I didn’t completely buy Eleanor and Chidi’s relationship, it was almost entirely worth it for this scene (https://youtu.be/l1IchzbtNj0). F you, Chidi’s wave. Tears. TEARS EVERYWHERE.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on May 10, 2021, 11:32:15 AM
I've watched The Good Place's last episode three times and all three times I cried ugly tears.

My wife once described me as an emotionless robot.  The only other times I've cried as an adult is when each of my dogs died.  And for a stupid TV show.

I highly, highly recommend The Good Place to everyone.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 10, 2021, 02:05:00 PM
I'll throw my hat in on a high recommendation of The Good Place.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: M.K.Ultra on May 10, 2021, 02:06:01 PM
I loved season 1. I sort of fell off the last season before finishing it. With such high recommendations I will give it another go.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on May 14, 2021, 03:13:21 AM
Castlevania (Season 4)

Season 4 was okay. It was the worst season for a couple reasons but the main one was it recontextualizes Season 3 (and makes that season worse somehow) thus huge swaths of Season 4 were unearned and/or flat-out baffling. Very inconsistent characterization throughout primarily because so much of previous seasons were ignored. Warren Ellis spent the entirety of Season 3 setting the chessboard then used very little of that. It was almost like he accidentally knocked over the board and tried to put the pieces back by memory then wrote the story from that.

I'm still organizing my thoughts as far as narrative critiques. I might post that later. Chances are it'll be long so y'all can scroll past that. The short version: What the ****? Why?

The animation was good for the most part. There were some truly nice set pieces though the CGI continued to be bad. I haven't seen a show blend it as well as Futurama. You could always tell what the CGI parts were like when the Planet Express Ship zoomed around, but it had the same shading as the non-CGI animation (not sure if Futurama used cels). The disparity between the CGI and non-CGI animation was so jarring in Castlevania. Anyway, there were also isolated incidences in which the faces looked kind of funky, particularly Sypha.

I'm surprised more Castlevania music wasn't used.

The writing was not nearly as good as past seasons. There were far fewer jokes which may or may not be a good thing to you. I mostly liked them. It lightened the mood so the show wasn't so dour, and it gave the characters some much needed personality. Additionally, there were no scenes as well written as Isaac's conversations with the unnamed sea captain or Flyeyes. Finally, "****" was used rather liberally in the dialog which I found distracting. Some of it worked for me ("I am Carmilla of Styria... and **** YOU!"). Often, it felt forced. Carmilla had some of the best dialog in the entire season, and Jaime Murray really knocked it out of the park with her delivery.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 16, 2021, 09:11:50 PM
I also watched the entirety of Castlevania Season 4 today with my best friend and...well...I'm not sure "disappointing" is the right word, as I thought Season 3 was godawful, but it wasn't the huge improvement over that season I hoped for in any conceivable way.

Probably the most disappointing thing about this season was the animation, as I thought it was pretty bad throughout with characters constantly going off-model during fight scenes; characters losing detail; and the animation being pretty damn choppy most of the time in general. I didn't think it was above "passable" until Episode 9, which is apparently what all the money was saved for. I particularly question their decision to use a lot of 3D CG backgrounds this season, as they look incredibly unconvincing against the cheap animation. Your mileage may vary, though. We were watching these episodes on a 4K TV.

Something that really bugged me this season about the fights, though, was something that also really bugged me about Season 3: it's very clear that not a lot of effort went into storyboarding these fights from the start of Season 3 all the way to the start of Season 4 episode 9. Why? Rewatch the Bloody Tears sequence sometime. Look at all the inventive ways that the respective characters use their abilities, in particular Sypha with her magic. There is nothing on the level of that choreography until the big battle of Season 4 episode 9. In general, I find fights in this series post-Bloody Tears Season 2 to be incredibly dull and generic.

The pacing this season was weird. It's a 10 episode season, and I can say with great confidence that absolutely nothing of consequence happened in the first 5 or so episodes. Then EVERYTHING happens in the following 4. It leads to one half that's dragging and padding just as badly as Season 3, followed by a second half that's incredibly rushed. Characters just seem randomly incompetent or seem to flip their motivations on a dime completely off-screen. The show completely ditched any world-building. I get the feeling the writers didn't know this was their final season until late in development.

I also could have done without the big fight at the very end and the extreme cop-out it led to in the epilogue, too.

So what was good? Well, aside from the one cop-out, I quite like the epilogue episode. It feels like it could have come immediately at the end of Season 2, which is a damning indictment of the overall pointlessness of Seasons 3 & 4 in general. The big fight of Episode 9 was a great return-to-form, both for the animation quality and the storyboarding behind it. Malcolm McDowell is a treat as ever, and led to more than a few Milk Money jokes from the 2 of us when he was on-screen.  :P

And yes, what was with the lack of Castlevania music this entire series outside the use of Bloody Tears back in Season 2?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 16, 2021, 09:52:19 PM
My friend and I also watched the first 2 episodes of Star Wars: The Bad Batch. Overall, I liked the 75 minute pilot episode, but the 2nd episode shows that this is at best another Rebels. It teases that dark tone, and then flips right around to being Yet Another Disney Star Wars story about someone parenting a kid. What, was Rebels & The Mandalorian not enough at this point?

On a side note, all the Bad Batch members are defined by particular genetic "defects" that are "enhanced". One is genetically stronger than the standard clones, one's a better sharp-shooter, one's Rambo, another's Donatello, and Omega has the genetic abnormality of "girl". She's clearly supposed to be a female clone of Jango Fett, as she has the Australian accent & shows combat skills without ever being trained.

On a more amusing side note, I see that Disney's gotten so arrogant these days that they thought they could rip off a motif from a Halo 3 theme with the Bad Batch and no one would notice.

Halo 3: Beyond a Pale Horse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY)

The Bad Batch Theme: Omega's Theme

hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI (http://hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI)

I don't even LIKE Halo, and I picked up on it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on May 17, 2021, 04:04:16 PM
I finally watched Invincible.  Great show.

It's a pretty great adaptation, even if it isn't 1:1, which I don't think it needed to be.  Many of the changes I would consider improvements.  One big change is the twist at the end of the first episode.  Instead of building to that being a potential season-ending cliffhanger, they essentially open the series with it and let the tension and dramatic irony hang over the first season.  I also think they might've rushed through a few other plot points from the early part of the series a bit too much.  I think they could've used maybe 2 or 3 more episodes to slow down the pace a bit and explore more of the characters or put in some more of the throwaway villains.  The series has a constantly changing status quo, from what I remember, which is why I think they could've sat in this arc a little longer without losing anything.  But again, that tension is there from the start of episode 2, so maybe it wouldn't work.

The show is just as violent and graphic as the comics, which was surprising.  They really don't tone it down.  I think they could've toned it down or saved it for "big moments", but Mark is constantly reacting to the violence in front of him so it usually feels impactful and not gratuitous.  However, that digital blood splatter effect is wildly overused.

One last thing I will add, is that one of the changes going forward seems like it'll involve Mark having the classic teen hero group of regular friends.  Outside of William, I don't really remember Mark having too many regular friends, so it felt like they leaned into a trope there when they didn't have to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on May 20, 2021, 01:49:00 PM
My friend and I also watched the first 2 episodes of Star Wars: The Bad Batch. Overall, I liked the 75 minute pilot episode, but the 2nd episode shows that this is at best another Rebels. It teases that dark tone, and then flips right around to being Yet Another Disney Star Wars story about someone parenting a kid. What, was Rebels & The Mandalorian not enough at this point?

On a side note, all the Bad Batch members are defined by particular genetic "defects" that are "enhanced". One is genetically stronger than the standard clones, one's a better sharp-shooter, one's Rambo, another's Donatello, and Omega has the genetic abnormality of "girl". She's clearly supposed to be a female clone of Jango Fett, as she has the Australian accent & shows combat skills without ever being trained.

On a more amusing side note, I see that Disney's gotten so arrogant these days that they thought they could rip off a motif from a Halo 3 theme with the Bad Batch and no one would notice.

Halo 3: Beyond a Pale Horse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UdX84171LY)

The Bad Batch Theme: Omega's Theme

hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI (http://hhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsSo1rK4pWI)

I don't even LIKE Halo, and I picked up on it.

I think it will get better over time like Clone Wars and Rebels. They probably need to get the 'kid stuff' out of the way early and it will probably rear its head again from time to time. Its got 16 episodes versus the shortened length of 12 from CW S7 so I'm optimistic we'll get some better episodes in the future.

Wild theory I just pulled out of my ass: Omega learns she's a direct clone of Jango like Boba is (unaltered as opposed to the accelerated growth troopers) and goes off to learn about the Mandalorians, grows up to be the Armorer or another Mando character in that show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 11, 2021, 09:41:47 PM
Been watching a bunch of stuff of late, notably a handful of various anime series like Beyond the Boundary; Wise Man's Grandchild; and Attack on Titan's Final Season (Part 1).

Attack on Titan was so much better when it was a horror series in Season 1. This show just hasn't worked for me since it decided to become a political intrigue/"cycle of violence" show.

Recently finished my first actual watch of the entirety of Star Trek TOS via the BluRay remaster. Overall, I hate to say it but TOS kinda peaked in Season 1 when it was throwing around ideas just seeing what would work. Once it settled into a formula in Seasons 2 & 3, it kinda sucked. Sure, there were good episodes in Seasons 2 and 3 when the occasional writer decided to put out an episode that was either absurdly silly or INCREDIBLY serious and full of dread, but I just don't think those seasons hold up even with the remaster fixing the dated effects. It also doesn't help that 1960s writing meant that every episode was filled with more dull padding than an episode of Lost.

Against my better judgment, I'm resuming my watch of the Arrowverse, starting with the 2nd half of Season 6 of Arrow. God, I'd forgotten just HOW tedious this show could get, not to mention how awful the sound mixing for this series ALWAYS WAS, going from (incredibly quiet mumbling, so you'd better have the subtitles on) TO INCREDIBLY EAR-PIERCINGLY LOUD WITH FREQUENT SCREECHES! The 2nd half of Supergirl is next. Back when I was still watching these shows, I'd already finished Seasons 3 of Legends of Tomorrow and Season 4 of Flash.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 11, 2021, 09:48:36 PM
It's kind of funny that while every other Star Trek series has taken a couple years to really get going, the original series peaked in season 1. I've been rewatching Deep Space 9, and I'm currently in the final season. After that my plan is to jump to Enterprise. It's been a long time since I've watched that series, but the time is finally near.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 11, 2021, 11:09:58 PM
It's been a long time since I've watched that series, but the time is finally near.

LOL!

It’s been a long road
Getting from there to here
It’s been a long time
But my time is finally near
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 12, 2021, 03:58:47 AM
It's been a long time since I've watched that series, but the time is finally near.

LOL!

It’s been a long road
Getting from there to here
It’s been a long time
But my time is finally near

You know, I've never understood the internet hatred for that song. One of the nice things about the Kelvin Timeline movies; Discovery; and Picard shattering the Star Trek fanbase has been the critical reappraisal of Enterprise (and, to a lesser extent, Voyager), but people still bitch about that song.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 12, 2021, 11:58:24 PM
Finished Season 6 of Arrow. Yeah, gotta say...it wasn't very good, mostly because I feel like they traded a good villain halfway through the season for a bad one. Diaz is a perfectly good Season 1-3 Arrow villain, but as a Season 6 villain? Come the **** on. Are you REALLY telling me that a 2 bit punk that kills everyone who even slightly demeans the size of his manhood is a worthy foe for not only this Arrow team, but the entire JUSTICE LEAGUE that Oliver Queen has on speed dial at this point?

This season could have been OVER at ANY point this season if the characters weren't arbitrarily incompetent and if Oliver actually took advantage of his resources for once instead of just having to Learn the Power of Friendship YET AGAIN. At least with the villain of the 1st half of the season, you had a guy who could legitimately out-think and outplay the heroes
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on September 13, 2021, 09:18:41 PM
Was bored & looking to kill some time with something short, so I decided to finally watch the 4 episode Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness CG series on Netflix.

As a huge fan of the games (especially those involving Leon & Claire), I...fucking...HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE this series. The series takes place inbetween the events of Resident Evils 4 & 5, and good GOD does it embody everything I absolutely despise about the brown & grey military shooter era of Resident Evil.

Government conspiracies? Check.
An incredibly stupid, convoluted plot obsessed with the geopolitical standing of World Powers instead of horror? Check.
Various government agencies buzzing around with assault rifles? Check.
Brown, brown, and more brown color scheme? Check.
Not the slightest sense of fun in sight? Check.

Oh, but let's add on the cliches of the Resident Evil CG movies too!

Leon & Claire are the main characters, but Claire has **** all to do with the story and has to be saved by Leon at one point? Check.
Guy who decides to become a roided-out Tyrant at one point for revenge against the true villain, despite the objections of his close female companion? Check.
General disdain for women in general? Check.
REALLY shitty animation when characters aren't standing around blandly talking, leading to characters suddenly become The Flash when it's Go Time? Check.

The Voice Actors for Leon and Claire are their mediocre non-Union actors from the Resident Evil 2 remake, which wouldn't be so bad except the characters are sporting their classic RE4 & RE2 character designs, respectively, so the voices seem to match up even worse than they did before. The plot is just downright incoherent for most of the 4 episodes, with characters often going places for no established reason; performing actions for no apparent reason; and frequently teleporting across entire countries for the sake of the plot.

The action scenes are poorly-storyboarded and boring to watch. I swear, the big monster Tyrant that goes down this time gets quite possibly the lamest death in series history. Yes, even lamer than how the Leech Queen died in RE0.

The series sets up a cliffhanger of sorts for a season 2, but I hope it doesn't get another season. It doesn't deserve a 2nd chance. It makes the 3 RE CG movies look like high art by comparison. I award it no points, and may God have mercy on its soul.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on September 15, 2021, 10:16:30 AM
It's been a long time since I've watched that series, but the time is finally near.

LOL!

It’s been a long road
Getting from there to here
It’s been a long time
But my time is finally near

You know, I've never understood the internet hatred for that song. One of the nice things about the Kelvin Timeline movies; Discovery; and Picard shattering the Star Trek fanbase has been the critical reappraisal of Enterprise (and, to a lesser extent, Voyager), but people still bitch about that song.

Just to clarify, I'm not making fun of the song nor do I hate it. I've always been on the positive side of it. My comment was about how Insanolord's sentence basically sounded like the opening lyrics of the theme song which hilarious to me especially since he was referring to Enterprise when he made the comment.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 15, 2021, 11:16:07 PM
That was 100% intentional, if it wasn't clear. I wasn't sure if anyone would pick up on it, but I'm glad you did.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on September 25, 2021, 04:10:10 PM
I watched the first episode of Foundation and I thought it was pretty good. Impressive visually and very true to the beginning of the original book. I'm really interested to see how they do the rest of it, since the books jump forward in time regularly, but so far, so good.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 10, 2021, 08:25:12 PM
Recently finished the 3rd season of CW's Supergirl as part of my ongoing, largely pointless, attempt to catch up on the last several years of the Arrowverse.

This show continues to be infuriating, because it has so much going for it and yet squanders so much of it. On the one hand, this is easily the best season so far, with the best & most consistent writing; a worthwhile villain that's setup and developed well; and some fantastic performances. Of particular note was the addition of Carl Lumbly, the voice actor for the DCAU's Martian Manhunter, as the father of Supergirl's Martian Manhunter. In fact, the ongoing B plot with his rescue; integration; and subsequent mental decay is probably the best part of the season.

On the other hand, it's still a CW show, and it's still Supergirl and that means the writers often don't know to stop getting in their own way. The Legion of Superheroes make their appearance this season, sorta, and it wasn't for the best. Not only did it reintroduce a soap opera element I'm really tired of in fiction in general (but especially the Arrowverse), but the Legion just kinda appear halfway through the season & then leave without really having done all that much with its characters. Then just as the show seems like it's really going to take that next step forward and have some real stakes, it pulls a Christopher Reeves Superman and just slams its hand on the reset button in a truly insulting way.

This season was, thankfully, largely devoid of the political propaganda I thought really hurt the 2nd season, but the writers just couldn't let a season go without having something stupid and shoehorned shoved it. This season, it was racisim and gun control, both shoved into not only one episode but the SAME episode, with no prior setup beforehand or development afterwards. It just appears as a problem in one episode and then stops being a thing the next. Makes it easy!

This is my general issue with the political angle of Supergirl: if the show actually set any of the topics it wanted to discuss up beforehand and then developed them as part of the ongoing story, I could respect that. But the writers want to take the easy way out and just throw **** in for easy bragging points and then back off before having to do anything with it. The gun control plotline in particular comes out of nowhere and ends in an especially illogical manner considering the nature of the threats these characters have faced in just their OWN universe, let alone the multiverse.

Supergirl also seems to lean on camp with its villains, but without having actors  or directors that can really pull those performances off. Can't say I'm sad to see this show's god awful Live Wire go.

Next up is Legends of Tomorrow - Season 4. Been really looking forward to this one. After a rough 1st season, this has rapidly turned into my favorite show in the Arrowverse, as it's the only one that's still willing to do some just insane stuff and have fun with it. Plus, Matt Ryan's Constantine formally joins the show this season!  :D
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 24, 2021, 11:07:33 AM
Well, it took me a couple weeks, but I'm now only 2 years behind on the Arrowverse shows (soon to be 3 years). Yay...

Legends of Tomorrow - Season 4 was quite enjoyable and insane as usual, though I think the Hellblazer elements introduced with Constantine were quite poorly handled in general. I don't know why they even bothered to include Hell in this season if they were going to make it look as lame as it does this season. It just looks like a redressed Arrow set. They couldn't even spring for makeup on the demons to make them look like anything other than normal humans. Also, small nitpick but why did they swap out Lucifer for Satan when they brought in the Triumvirate? The comics are quite clear as to what name that character has.

Anyway, it's a good season but I feel that it really didn't live up to its potential.

The Flash - Sesaon 5 - It's standard-issue Flash at this point. The villain, Cicada, has a good set-up and the idea of a metahuman serial killer has potential...but the season just doesn't really do anything with it. This feels like a 13 episode plot that got stretched out to 24 episodes. It leads to the season being extremely repetitive.

And then there's Nora...look, I get that you wanted to recapture the feeling of The Flash's 1st season, but with everything being grimdark you forgot to include the whimsy and wonder that the 1st season also had. This show has been way too emo and dumb for way too long. The side characters don't really get to do anything this season, and the Reverse Flash continues to make less and less sense every time they bring him back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 24, 2021, 11:17:16 AM
Arrow - Season 7 - Good god, this show needs to end, so thankfully it will next season...about 4 seasons too late. I found the 1st half of the season surprisingly engaging, as the change-up in the status quo with Oliver in prison and the assorted cast scattered to the winds led to some unexpected character growth. I still don't buy Diaz as Oliver's ultimate big bad, but at least they finally ended that plot line in a somewhat satisfying way.

Then the show's 2nd half happens, and we're essentially back to the status quo. Felicity continues to just be one of the worst-written characters in the history of television, constantly swinging between crying and self-righteous "I keep all the secrets BUT HOW DARE YOU KEEP ANYTHING FROM ME" anger. Gotta love how she apparently wanted a marital separation from Oliver right before the Elseworlds Crossover only to completely abandon that plot point when the show resumed from the Crossover.

And then there are the 2 worst elements of this season: Emiko and the flash-forward that served absolutely no purpose. You know, I didn't think there was a depth Arrow could sink any further to at this point after all the crap it's pulled at this point, but here comes Emiko to give us the "Secret Evil Sister" plotline. Oliver spends this entire arc remarkably out of character, and Emiko leaves the show on a particularly pointless note.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 24, 2021, 11:29:18 AM
Supergirl - Season 4 - Well, this season got political, didn't it? You may think I hated this season because of that, but actually I thought this was the best show out of the 4 core Arrowverse shows that particular year. My biggest issue with this show wasn't really the politics (expecting anything but super-liberal politics out of a Hollywood show is a fool's errand), but that Supergirl never really did anything with it. It would just shoehorn something political into an ongoing story, parade around how virtuous it was, and then drop the plot point almost immediately.

That is not the case this season, which is all about a nativist uprising against the integration of aliens and their culture into American Society. This is both something that was touched upon in Season 2 as well as something that makes sense WOULD happen in a society with aliens sporting essentially metahuman powers. I'm actually rather amused at how sympathetic and well-written Agent Liberty's backstory is, because I'm almost certain that that was both accidental and heavily influenced by the performance of his actor.

This all leads into a vast government conspiracy plotline that works VERY well, leading to the arrival of a villain new to Supergirl that also works very well.

I can gripe about how poorly the show continues to adapt existing Superman stories like "What's So Funny about Truth, Justice, & the American Way?" and "Superman: Red Son", but overall this season was quite enjoyable...for the most part. I could have really done without the partial amnesia subpot that dominates a large chunk of this season, but at least it leads to some different character dynamics. I also thought Dreamer's inclusion into the show was kinda blunt force trauma. She got one good episode about her family, but other than that she was pretty much "the Trans hero". The show didn't really let her be anything more than that, and was quite happy to make that her only defining characteristic.

Also, Brainiac 5 is such a HUGE improvement over Wynn. He is lovably awkward the entire season, and I hope he sticks around.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: ThePerm on October 24, 2021, 05:19:39 PM
I don't mind politics in shows and movies, but I don't like it when they write characters to be mouth-pieces for the writers. That's bad writing. A good rule of thumb for writing is "show down tell"

Like Alien and Prometheus are about rape, abortion, and feminism, but they don't say that directly.

The Munsters was about redlining and segregation, Body Snatchers was about communism

Of course these are my interpretations.

Sabrina season one was entertaining, and put entertainment first. Season 2 felt like propaganda. The season started to feel like a really bad after-school special. I never made it through the whole season though, so I don't know if it gets better.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on October 24, 2021, 10:33:31 PM
I finished Ted Lasso Season 2.  It's a really good show.  A lot of characters went through arcs and you see the growth by the end of the season.  They really set themselves up to have an interesting season 3, so I hope the show comes back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on October 24, 2021, 10:52:08 PM
I finished Ted Lasso Season 2.  It's a really good show.  A lot of characters went through arcs and you see the growth by the end of the season.  They really set themselves up to have an interesting season 3, so I hope the show comes back.

It's already been picked up for a third season, so you don't have to worry about that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on October 25, 2021, 06:15:28 PM
I finished Ted Lasso Season 2.  It's a really good show.  A lot of characters went through arcs and you see the growth by the end of the season.  They really set themselves up to have an interesting season 3, so I hope the show comes back.

It's already been picked up for a third season, so you don't have to worry about that.

Oh, nice. I was a bit worried because the last thing I remember reading about it was that it was up to Jason Sudeikis' schedule.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on October 26, 2021, 10:38:18 PM
Thought I'd mention that Superman: The Animated Series hit BluRay today, finally completing the core DC Animated Universe on BluRay. Man, WB sure took their time. They started releasing the DCAU in HD back in 2011. The show's been in HD on HBO Max for a little while now, but if you want to watch the show in the superior non-streaming format, you have that option now.

Watched through the 1st 8 episodes, and it goes without saying that the series still holds up and is THE iconic Superman show. So far, the transfer quality has really surprised me, as this show always kinda looked like garbage on DVD (as did Batman Beyond). I always chocked that up to WB switching to a lesser storage format between Batman: TAS and Superman, and then not taking care of it.

However, the episodes I've seen have largely been absolutely sharp and clean. There's still a fair number of shots where the show will suddenly turn extremely soft for a few seconds (most notably the Bugs Bunny logo sequence and a good chunk of "Feeding Time"), but someone clearly spent a lot of time trying to clean this show up, and it paid off. It doesn't look as good as Batman: TAS did on its BluRay release, but this is still by far the best and most consistent this show has ever looked.

I do wish the audio mix was just a bit better, though. Some characters like Toy Man are very hard to hear in the mix, as the show seems to prioritize the music and sound effects over all else.

So far, looks like another stellar WB archive animation release.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: azeke on October 29, 2021, 08:30:26 PM
I love S:TAS (better than BTAS and JL imo), but i already own it on DVD and no way i am giving WB/DC any of my money.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 12, 2022, 07:12:12 PM
The IT Crowd
So good. Peaked in Series 3 though. Series isn’t bad, just noticeably worse than Series 3. A few jokes don’t land in 2022, and creator Graham Linehan’s transphobia is such a letdown. Still, a show is more than one person. The three leads have such great chemistry together.

Community
I haven’t finished Season 6. However, I think I’ve seen enough to offer a short review. Seasons 1 to 3 are excellent. Season 4 is weird though maybe dunked on more than I agree with. Season 5 is better but the show unofficially ends when Troy leaves. Everything after feels like it’s trying to fill the hole left by Donald Glover. I know six seasons and a movie was the show’s mantra. When two main cast members are written off the show, it’s time to start planning an exit strategy.

The Book of Boba Fett
Not terrible; mostly unnecessary. A whole episode doesn’t even have Boba Fett in it, focusing instead on Pedro Pascal’s Din Djarin from The Mandalorian. LOL, what? Additionally, it walks back a major plot point established not that long ago, making me wonder why Jon Favreau and Dave Filoni even bothered.

I disagree with what a lot of fans say about changes to Boba Fett’s character since he was barely one. He looked cool in the original trilogy then got accidentally punked by Han Solo. I never understood why people were so attached to him. He didn’t do anything.

The story here is fine. The acting is fine. There are some questionable choices here and there. The show exists, and I enjoyed my time with it for the most part. Probably won’t rewatch it except to put it on in the background or that one episode that is more relevant to other Star Wars related stuff.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 12, 2022, 08:11:57 PM
Community
I haven’t finished Season 6. However, I think I’ve seen enough to offer a short review. Seasons 1 to 3 are excellent. Season 4 is weird though maybe dunked on more than I agree with. Season 5 is better but the show unofficially ends when Troy leaves. Everything after feels like it’s trying to fill the hole left by Donald Glover. I know six seasons and a movie was the show’s mantra. When two main cast members are written off the show, it’s time to start planning an exit strategy.

I would argue season 6 is the best of the back three seasons. I agree that 4 gets more hate than it deserves, and 5 starts out really well but stumbles a bit after Troy leaves and they're not sure what the new dynamic should be. 6 takes a little while to get going, as it has to introduce two new characters, but by the end I think it's great. I really love Elroy, I wish we'd seen more of him. If we ever do get the movie, which it sounds like might still be possible, I hope he's a part of it.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 19, 2022, 10:46:42 PM
Wasn't really feeling in the mood to play anything today after being underwhelmed with the opening hours of Horizon: Forbidden West, so thought I'd finally get around to watching the 2nd Season of Gen:Lock while our HBO Max trial was still active. I quite enjoyed the 1st season, despite its problems.

Yeah, don't. The 2nd season is one of the worst things I've seen since...well, probably Resident Evil: Infinite Darkness. The new HBO Max writing team decided to try to cram about 3-4 seasons of storyline into 8 episodes, and it goes even worse than you're probably imagining. And it's all grimdark bullshit. That's the WB difference!

And it all ends with an ending worthy of comparisons to Mass Effect 3.

It's that bad.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 23, 2022, 08:58:48 PM
Disenchantment
I wish I liked this show more. Disenchantment is what happens if you take Futurama then do everything worse. The characters are less likable, the jokes are less funny, the voice acting despite the pedigree here feels uninspired, the plot meanders etc. etc. Futurama never really had a overarching plot (aside from the movies) though it excelled at character development.

Disenchantment has an overarching plot except it feels like the writers don’t know what they want to do, and they cheat more than I like. Getting Bean, Elfo, and Luci back together at the beginning of Part 4, for example, seemed rushed and overly convenient. In writing, you don’t have to know everything that happens, but you should have an idea of where you want to go. After Dagmar was freed and the major plot twist hit, the writers seemed to start winging it.

I don’t fault Disenchantment for not being Futurama. It can be great on its own. I’m merely using Futurama as an example of show with a similar tone that really understands what it wants to be. Disenchantment hasn’t gotten there.

On a semi-related note, Hulu seems dead set on curb stomping Futurama’s legacy with the new season and not paying John DiMaggio. Y’all really going to chance the possibility of tarnishing Futurama’s excellent (fourth and best) finale by not bringing the entire cast back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 23, 2022, 10:50:39 PM
Disenchantment
I wish I liked this show more. Disenchantment is what happens if you take Futurama then do everything worse. The characters are less likable, the jokes are less funny, the voice acting despite the pedigree here feels uninspired, the plot meanders etc. etc. Futurama never really had a overarching plot (aside from the movies) though it excelled at character development.

Disenchantment has an overarching plot except it feels like the writers don’t know what they want to do, and they cheat more than I like. Getting Bean, Elfo, and Luci back together at the beginning of Part 4, for example, seemed rushed and overly convenient. In writing, you don’t have to know everything that happens, but you should have an idea of where you want to go. After Dagmar was freed and the major plot twist hit, the writers seemed to start winging it.

I don’t fault Disenchantment for not being Futurama. It can be great on its own. I’m merely using Futurama as an example of show with a similar tone that really understands what it wants to be. Disenchantment hasn’t gotten there.

Sounds a lot like my thoughts on The Dragon Prince after loving Avatar: The Last Airbender. What a mess that show is, too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 25, 2022, 01:09:27 AM
That’s apt. I haven’t watched The Dragon Prince since season 3 release, but I can’t say I disagree.

Care to elaborate though?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on February 25, 2022, 08:00:56 PM
That’s apt. I haven’t watched The Dragon Prince since season 3 release, but I can’t say I disagree.

Care to elaborate though?

You know, it's funny...I only just watched the 3 existing seasons of Dragon Prince 3 months ago, back in December 2021 (and there are 4 more seasons allegedly on their way in the future). And yet...the show is so forgettable and lifeless that I actually had to go back and refresh myself on just what happened in that show, because so little happens IN it.

Towards the end of last year, I started finally getting to Netflix shows I'd been meaning to watch for a while, such as Squid Game; Locke & Key; and Dragon Prince. After having watched them, I think I now despise Netflix original series, because IMO 2 out of the 3 are bad (though Locke & Key was by far the worst) and the last (Squid Game) is only OK.

I say that because my biggest issue with Dragon Prince is that it's a Netflix series, which means taking simple stories and then stretching them out to ludicrous lengths with tons of uninteresting filler, topped off with cliffhangers to get viewers to just keep CONSUMING mindless fluff. Dragon Prince, at its heart, is a road trip show, and yet it takes the characters until the THIRD season to actually GET anywhere. It's decompressed storytelling at its worst, usually driven by Idiot Plot, where the only reason the plot happens is because all the characters are Idiots and don't do the logical thing. For instance, there's a scene early on where the characters run into their deaf aunt and her soldiers while on the run from the show's main villain. These characters KNOW this woman. She is the quintessential Paladin of Justice, and they KNOW they are safe with her AND can trust her. And yet...they lie to her; they DON'T tell her about the villain; and they fake their own kidnapping to continue the road trip.

Writing like that aggravates me. These writers have PROVEN they're better than this.

Thing is, that all could be tolerable if the filler between major plot beats (what few there are) were interesting, but it's just so...bland. Characters are pretty standard achetypes, with little in the way of nuance or depth. Death, apparently, has absolutely no meaning in this universe due to the villains being able to cast Full Revive whenever they want. The show feels like it wants to have light-hearted moments, but it's just not funny (and the pandering to Avatar fans is particularly forced and cringy).

And to top it all off, the show's worldbuilding is absolute ****, which is inconceivable considering this was made by most of the talented people who worked on Avatar (with the untalented ones going to work on Korra). After 3 Seasons, I know just about as much about this world now as I did at the start. Aside from the ONE episode in the Elven Village in Season 3, there's no sense of distinct cultures. I have no sense of the geography of this world or where the characters are in relation to it. This is a world of magic and fantasy, and yet it's as bland and paper-thin as can be.

The show also has some really forced moments of "representation". For instance, I'm conflicted about the deaf aunt character. On the one hand, she's a cool character. I really like the way she takes charge & fights, and I'm a sucker for Paladin-type characters. On the other hand, her being a general in an army while deaf makes absolutely no sense, and the show never makes an attempt to address how a general who can't hear anything and is unable to quickly communicate with her troops would be an effective combat general. She just IS, because Netflix paradoxically only gave the writers 9 episodes a season, and yet demand that almost nothing fucking happens every season. It's not like these writers don't know how to write an awesome disabled character, as they gave us Toph, my favorite characters in the entire Avatar franchise. But they spent time with Toph establishing why she was awesome and why her blindness was an asset, not a handicap. And she was absolutely hilarious.

I find Dragon Prince infuriating. The people making it are better than this, and I can only think that Netflix mandates are why the show is so meh. It's certainly why Locke & Key is as bad as it is after the pilot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 25, 2022, 08:32:52 PM
I subscribe to Paramount+ for Star Trek and soccer, but lately I wanted to branch out into some of the other stuff on there, and since it has the Nickelodeon backlog I started watching Rocko's Modern Life. This was one of my favorite shows as a kid, and it actually holds up really well. Like a lot of shows in the era, it's filled with as many jokes only adults would get as there are for the kids. Not just dirty stuff, but like pop culture references that are way about kids' heads. The writing is still sharp, and the performances are really good. I'm enjoying it a lot.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 27, 2022, 12:29:12 PM
@broodwars

I’ve been planning to rewatch The Dragon Prince since it was renewed for four more seasons, and I don’t remember a lot of it (perhaps the downside of binging shows is so much doesn’t sink in and other binged shows replace what little was retained, rinse repeat). From what I do remember, I agree. I’ll revisit your post once I’ve had a chance to get rewatch the show. I have two more episodes of Community then I’ll probably circle back.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 28, 2022, 12:56:51 PM
Community
Finally finished the series. Nothing about the remaining episodes in Season 6 really changed my mind about Troy’s exit being the unofficial ending of the show. The actual finale almost doesn’t feel like one, and the show marks the end of the show with the exit of three main cast members, two of them were original (Abed and Annie). It didn’t hit as hard as Troy leaving. I think this is one part Troy’s exit was built up over a few episodes and another part the show never fully found its footing in the last season and a half. There are still some great jokes though. And the new cast members were good in their own way. I rank them: Buzz, Frankie, then Elroy. In an alternate reality, it would have been neat if Ian Duncan (John Oliver) or Roger DeSalvo (Matt Berry) were main cast members in Season 6. The former is absent entirely while the latter guest stars in one episode.

The latter half of the series is odd. They’re not bad, but Dan Harmon’s firing definitely changed the trajectory of the show from an all-time great to the first half is all-time and the second half is still pretty good. In fact, I laughed hardest at the Pierce’s parting gifts scene. It’s the same joke six times and it somehow hits every time. Pedro Pascal moonlighting for Walter Goggins during the pandemic table read last year is required watching. (https://youtu.be/5khGDthY7QQ)

I have yet to see “Advanced Dungeons and Dragons” in full as Netflix removed it due to some controversy as Chang wears makeup resembling blackface. I’ve seen screenshots and some clips. I get being careful about this kind of stuff though it’s important to understand context. The intention isn’t to mock black people; it’s often to mock the use of blackface. At this point, maybe just stop trying to make that joke happen.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on February 28, 2022, 04:32:04 PM
Advanced Dungeons and Dragons is still on Amazon Prime Video if you have that.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on February 28, 2022, 06:28:35 PM
Thanks for the tip. I just watched Advanced Dungeons and Dragons. That’s definitely not blackface though it invokes that imagery to get to the jokes it wants to tell: Chang’s lack of social awareness, going so hard on the dark elf costume only to get eliminated immediately, and possibly dunking on cosplayers. Shirley’s comment on Chang’s costume is *chef’s kiss*

It seems more that Netflix and Hulu merely wanted to preemptively get ahead of any potential blowback. Can’t get called out if they pull the episode first. It’s a shame. Besides being well written, the episode has a strong anti-bullying message. To that end, it does more good than harm though maybe I’m biased because I like the show.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on March 12, 2022, 11:45:28 AM
Finally getting around to watching the last Netflix bucket list show I had left, Voltron: Legendary Defender. I'm a couple of episodes in, and it's...good, I guess? I really want to love this show, but it just kinda feels generic, and I think I have a notion why.

OK, I will freely admit that the original 80s Voltron series is at best glorious cheese, much like the 80s Thundercats. Between its extremely repetitive monster-of-the-day format; the cookie-cutter characters; the sometimes-grating voice acting; and the constant stock footage, it's very much a product of its time and it hasn't aged well. That said, it's an iconic show and it and Robotech were shows I grew up with on their Toonami broadcasts, and both played a big role in my love for mecha animation. It's a classic, and I'll always have a soft spot for it.

The new Voltron is clearly a better "show". The 5 pilots have much more distinct personalities and are more inclined to bicker with each other, there's more of a longterm storyline, and there's probably more actual character animation in a single episode than in an entire season of the original show.

That said, the original show could have a pretty strong atmosphere at times, dark and moody. I also seem to remember attempts at mythology and world-building. The new show is drawn extremely flat and brightly lit, without much to say in terms of shadows or varying up the shots. Also, I'm not sure why, but I really kinda hate the new design for Voltron itself. I think the issue is that its very smooth and rounded. The original design is just iconic:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-OygQej3skw8/V3Q_tpKAtQI/AAAAAAAAOjQ/_wIeAnVkC98Q7sW2cvKsr6FL1gwDgDn3ACLcB/s1600/voltron.png)

I think the problems are black being the new primary color, the loss of the crest on the chest, and Voltron's face now being really hard to see, especially with those blue lights JJ Abrams-ing it.

Also, why is forming Voltron some "Heart of the Cards" spiritual bullshit now? I kinda rolled my eyes when the Power Rangers reboot film did that, and it feels really tacked-on here too.

Also, why in God's name would you NOT update and reuse the original Voltron theme? This series loves its generic techno/synth music, and it especially sucks all the life out of the transformation sequence stock footage to NOT have AT LEAST a memorable song backing it, let alone the original Voltron theme.

So far, the show is good, but it's missing that "certain something" to elevate it to the next level.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Plugabugz on March 18, 2022, 10:24:38 AM
The Endgame is good in a "this is terrible but i have no idea what they're doing with this" kind of way. It's not highbrow, its not well written, several of the characters have absolutely no identity beyond servicing the plot and some key things have no reason to happen except they do. I dont know where its going but i'm enjoying hate-watching this.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on April 10, 2022, 08:16:16 PM
I've been watching a lot of stuff lately, but there is one series I want to talk about in particular since I know we have some Community fans here. I could have sworn I saw talk about it on these forums, but neither the site's search engine nor Google could find anything. I just finished watching the 1st Season of Mythic Quest, a 2020-ongoing comedy series by Charlie Day that is currently streaming on Apple TV. It's basically "What if Community Took Place in a Game Development Studio?".

And it's the funniest goddamn thing I've seen in years.

The show revolves around an eccentric cast of game developers running a World of WarCraft-esque MMO, with egos and problems of the day cropping up to cause total chaos such as infighting over the implementation of a new game mechanic; infighting over increased monetization in the game (spearheaded by Community veteran Danny Pudi as basically the show's heel); the game's servers getting hacked; Kotaku running a story claiming the game has a Nazi problem (in probably the funniest...and most accurate...episode of the show); etc.

What's interesting is that as funny as the show is, it can also flip on a dime at times to do some really dramatic and heart-touching moments, such as an entire episode about the birth and death of an indie studio that's largely separate from the main cast. There's also an amazing episode that takes place within the 2020 pandemic that just captures the feeling of that moment so fantastically.

My one grip with the show is that some characters just don't seem to have much to do, namely Ashley Birch as a disgruntled lesbian QA tester. Yes, the lesbian part is important. It's the beginning and end of her character, at least in Season 1 as she spends the entirety of it pining for another QA tester. I also really wanted to see the put-upon HR manager and obviously-on-the-verge-of-a-breakdown Community Manager characters a lot more than their handful of appearances.

If you have Apple TV (or can sail the high seas), I highly recommend this show. This is JUST the show for people like us. It understands gaming, the writing is utterly on-point, and the performances are great.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 10, 2022, 08:38:14 PM
I've been watching a lot of stuff lately, but there is one series I want to talk about in particular since I know we have some Community fans here. I could have sworn I saw talk about it on these forums, but neither the site's search engine nor Google could find anything. I just finished watching the 1st Season of Mythic Quest, a 2020-ongoing comedy series by Charlie Day that is currently streaming on Apple TV. It's basically "What if Community Took Place in a Game Development Studio?".

And it's the funniest goddamn thing I've seen in years.

The show revolves around an eccentric cast of game developers running a World of WarCraft-esque MMO, with egos and problems of the day cropping up to cause total chaos such as infighting over the implementation of a new game mechanic; infighting over increased monetization in the game (spearheaded by Community veteran Danny Pudi as basically the show's heel); the game's servers getting hacked; Kotaku running a story claiming the game has a Nazi problem (in probably the funniest...and most accurate...episode of the show); etc.

What's interesting is that as funny as the show is, it can also flip on a dime at times to do some really dramatic and heart-touching moments, such as an entire episode about the birth and death of an indie studio that's largely separate from the main cast. There's also an amazing episode that takes place within the 2020 pandemic that just captures the feeling of that moment so fantastically.

My one grip with the show is that some characters just don't seem to have much to do, namely Ashley Birch as a disgruntled lesbian QA tester. Yes, the lesbian part is important. It's the beginning and end of her character, at least in Season 1 as she spends the entirety of it pining for another QA tester. I also really wanted to see the put-upon HR manager and obviously-on-the-verge-of-a-breakdown Community Manager characters a lot more than their handful of appearances.

If you have Apple TV (or can sail the high seas), I highly recommend this show. This is JUST the show for people like us. It understands gaming, the writing is utterly on-point, and the performances are great.

I need to get back to that show. I've watched some of it and really enjoyed it, but for whatever reason drifted away from it. There are just so many things to watch these days.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on May 15, 2022, 07:42:57 PM
The Dragon Prince

I've been meaning to reply to broodwars' post for a couple months now. This show is so infuriating that I started and stopped multiple times, watched other shows etc.

The Dragon Prince has pockets of good writing. As a whole, it's bad. There are multiple instances where characters hop on a soapbox and get really preachy. Y'all stall so much in this show that these speeches could be multiple conversations or entire scenes where characters do more than talk at the audience.

Here are some plot points that were handled poorly:

I actually have problems with some of the representation here. Black king, sure. Except he was benched in the second episode, easily manipulated by Viren multiple times, and repeatedly made really poor decisions in flashbacks. As a king, he was largely incompetent so not a good look. Lesbian queens of Duren, sure. Killed off almost immediately (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BuryYourGays). Rayla was largely raised by a gay couple, sure. Almost bury your gays again because Viren trapped one of them in a coin. Runaan is apparently still alive.

I really hate Jack De Sena's voice. This is a me problem.

I agree with most of broodwars' criticisms on the previous page so I'll only comment on a few things:

Dragon Prince, at its heart, is a road trip show, and yet it takes the characters until the THIRD season to actually GET anywhere. It's decompressed storytelling at its worst, usually driven by Idiot Plot, where the only reason the plot happens is because all the characters are Idiots and don't do the logical thing.
Yeah... that's apt. It's wild how little was actually accomplished in 27 episodes. Comparatively, Toph is officially introduced in Episode 26 of Avatar: The Last Airbender which is where the show really picks up. Before that, there were a couple episodes in Avatar's first season that felt like stalling. For the most part, the team kept moving and doing things so it never felt like they were stalling for long.

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And to top it all off, the show's worldbuilding is absolute ****, which is inconceivable considering this was made by most of the talented people who worked on Avatar (with the untalented ones going to work on Korra)
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I'm conflicted about the deaf aunt character. On the one hand, she's a cool character. I really like the way she takes charge & fights, and I'm a sucker for Paladin-type characters. On the other hand, her being a general in an army while deaf makes absolutely no sense, and the show never makes an attempt to address how a general who can't hear anything and is unable to quickly communicate with her troops would be an effective combat general.
Amaya was a point of contention for me too. She's a cool character on paper, but she doesn't work in practice. It’s as if the creators have no idea why Toph works and Amaya doesn't. Toph fit so well into Avatar: The Last Airbender's world. Of course, a blind person would be the world's greatest Earth Bender. Bending is how she sees. That's excellent world building. They relay so much information about Earth Bending by flipping the script and turning Toph's disability into a strength, by showing this.

If The Dragon Prince creators really wanted a deaf character to have a similar effect, it would have made more sense to tie Amaya to magic somehow. As a regular human, being an effective general is completely unearned.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: broodwars on May 15, 2022, 10:18:51 PM
I hate to say this after all the gushing I did about Season 1, but Season 2 of Mythic Quest really kinda...sucks. I don't know if it's because the season was written and performed during the pandemic so people weren't really inclined to be funny, or if the showrunners just didn't know where to take the show from here but this season really didn't work.

I think the real key to the 1st season's success was Poppi's freak-outs. I love her actress. She has a natural gift for comedic timing, and yet season 2 gives her absolutely nothing to do and nobody to react to. The season also pretty much abandons the "behind the scenes of a popular MMO" thing to give us really half-baked drama.

The show was renewed for 2 more seasons, but if this show is going to continue I hope the writers actually bring their A game next time.

On a side note, I also recently finished the 2nd season of Pacific Rim: The Black, and it's fine...I guess. The 2nd season is really lacking in the giant robot fights, and the plot is extremely rushed. Considering the shitshow that most Netflix shows seem to be going into their final seasons, I suppose it's some small miracle that this show has an actual ending at all, rushed and hand-waivy as it is. The show's still easily the 2nd-best Pacific Rim content behind the original movie, but that's mostly because Uprising screwed so many things up.

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Are you sure the untalented ones worked on Korra? The Legend of Korra is flawed but far more competent and coherent than The Dragon Prince. In roughly the same amount of episodes, the Korra team gave us Beginnings Part 1 and 2 while nothing in The Dragon Prince so far touches those highs.

Yeah, in retrospect you're probably right about that. I just don't feel as personally betrayed by Dragon Prince as I do about Korra. Korra is one of the most mean-spirited sequels I've ever seen. It's like the showrunners have an active hatred for Last Airbender and everything people loved about it, considering everyone except Katarra is dead; a miserable failure; hated by their own families; or some combination thereof.

Dragon Prince's writing flaws feel like incompetence. Korra's writing flaws feel like actual intended malice.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: M.K.Ultra on July 10, 2022, 08:36:22 AM
I just finished Severance on Apple TV+. Apologies if this has already been discussed here. This is one of my favorite seasons of TV of all time. It is up there with season 1 of Twin Peaks, Westworld, and Lost for me. It would be easy to compare this to the style of Charlie Kaufman and I think that is pretty fair, but he has never done a TV show so here you go. It is very dark and may mess with your head so be warned. Also there is self-harm, but the episode where this takes place has a special warning at the beginning. Just queue up something lighthearted to rinse off with after watching, like Ted Lasso. Now go get severed.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2023, 03:47:21 AM
The OA

I'm really not sure how to explain this show without myself sounding crazy, but I got absolutely caught up in this wild tale of a show.

Psychological Sci Fi Thriller is probably the best way to drop some descriptors on there.
It has to do with the main character and her recollection of her supposed past and her supposed NDE or Near Death Experience, and why she was missing for 7 years, and left blind but can now see.
Most think she is crazy and needs help, some think she is fascinating and want to know more.

Full Disclosure.... this show was supposed to go 5 seasons according to the creator, but Netflix cut it short after 2 great seasons. and TBH. the ending of S2 teasing S3 looked like it was setting up another wild season full of who knows what. I do not regret getting invested, because it was a good ride, even if I don't get to see how it ultimately ends.

If you looking for a spoiler to tell you what is really going on in this show...  and I suggest you go in knowing no more than what was said above.....
**SPOILER**The closest comparison I can come up with is group Quantum Leap meets the Spiritual Matrix
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 13, 2023, 07:20:22 AM
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Yeah, in retrospect you're probably right about that. I just don't feel as personally betrayed by Dragon Prince as I do about Korra. Korra is one of the most mean-spirited sequels I've ever seen. It's like the showrunners have an active hatred for Last Airbender and everything people loved about it, considering everyone except Katarra is dead; a miserable failure; hated by their own families; or some combination thereof.

What....?

It's 70 years later?  Of course most of the people from TLA are dead.  And, of course, Aang has to be dead.

Zuko seems highly successful and respected.  We know little about Sokka, but the show does show us a statue of him, indicating he did well.  Katara is obviously loved and doing great (until she dies as foretold in TLA - Again, 70 years later).  Toph... well, her story fits her character well.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 13, 2023, 10:33:06 AM
Toph... well, her story fits her character well.
Does it? On the fence over whether Toph having the same general hairstyle and outfit for 70 years made sense, tbh. Toph isn’t exactly Lady Fancyfingers in ATLA, but did the TLoK writers think blind people don’t care about style and personal grooming? 0/10, would not recommend.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on January 13, 2023, 06:34:20 PM
eh.  I can see not liking where Toph's character went, but it worked for me.

Blind people might care about style/grooming, but Toph just never seemed that into it.  Remember the episode where they show her feet?  And the episode where she gets dolled up, laughed at, then blows it all off?  Hell, I have the same hat I've been wearing for over twenty years.  I hear they've done some stuff in the comics to kinda bridge the gap between TLA and LOK for Toph, but I've not read them.  I do wonder if they ever touched upon her apparent crush on Sokka.  Between that and how her parents treated her, I could see that as an explanation for the walls she's built around her. 
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Adrock on January 13, 2023, 06:50:16 PM
I was joking. I was just trying to work in the Lady Fancyfingers reference. Toph was fine in TLoK though maybe more curmudgeonly than I thought her character would have ended up. I merely chalked it up to a-lot-can-happen-to-a-person-in-70-years. How many people are the same even five or 10 years ago?

It is kind of weird that she ended up wearing the same color scheme. Like did she specifically ask someone? Was it just a coincidence? These are important questions.*

*They aren’t
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on January 21, 2023, 10:27:40 PM
I actually didn't like how they handled Toph. I always hate the "this is your battle young one" angle. It would have been a fitting parallel if she came back to support like how Bumi rejoined the military to help in the final battles of TLA. No reason she can't come back and help in some capacity.

In terms of newer shows, I'm not seeing any mention of Andor. Did I miss that conversation a few pages back? Its great. Some of the best Star Wars material in recent years I'd say. Can't wait to see where it goes.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on August 01, 2023, 04:28:43 PM
Does anyone watch TV anymore?

Just watched Severance, so I'm even later than the last post on Severance.

It was pretty good. There's enough meat on the bone to make me excited to see the second season (whenever that happens). The last two episodes did a lot of switching between a dark scene and a harsh white scene which nearly gave me a migraine. There's also a lot of inexplicable shakycam that annoyed me.

The mysteries of the show were pretty cool. But I ended up being more interested in the mystery of each character's background rather than what the big corporation is secretly up to.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 03, 2023, 04:39:00 AM
Yes, I got around to Severance late January of this year after hearing so much high praise for the show last year. I quite enjoyed that. I was sort of taking it slow at first. Watching an episode once every two days or so but then around the time of the 5th episode I just wanted to get on to the next and went through the last batch of episodes in the last two days. Too bad since it seems like it will be a long wait for the second season now. For awhile in February, it really stayed in my mind as I wished I could see more of how it may play out but now so much has happened in life since then that I'd pretty much forgotten I'd seen it until you posted this which is wild to me since it's definitely some of the best TV I've seen this year along with Yellowjackets Season 1 and The Bear Season 1. I should check out Season 2 for both of those shows now that I think about it. Oh, and Kobra Kai. Watched all 5 seasons of that too.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Khushrenada on August 03, 2023, 04:40:30 AM
Does anyone watch TV anymore?

No. TVMan is dead. You killed him. There is only YouTube man now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on August 24, 2023, 05:06:27 PM
I can't find the Star Wars show thread I thought we had so I'll post here. Ahsoka is pretty good so far. I view it as a sort of "last chance" for Star Wars for me personally. I haven't really been enjoying the newer shows other than occasional highlights, and despite the amazing performance of Andor everything else feels lacking. Mando started decent, went stronger, then dropped off the deep end. Boba Fett was a disappointing mess, and Kenobi and even bigger mess. So if Ahsoka doesn't pull me back in I'll be taking a back seat on future stuff besides Andor S2. Not a boycott or anything, just not making them a priority or worrying about spoilers.

I also view it as a sort of "last chance" for Ahsoka herself. A lot of people feel she should not have survived Order 66 or even Rebels. her fight with Vader in Rebels would have been a very poetic and tragic ending for her. I have been holding judgement because anyone can stick around so long as they make it worthwhile. Maul has a ridiculous survival but he became an amazing character so I've overlooked the survival because of this. He served a great purpose and had a very compelling arc.

Ahsoka has yet to actually DO anything of any real merit or substance since the duel she survived through miraculous means. This show is her chance to prove she deserved to stick around and do something more.

My only real complaint that is more than a nitpick (but not a deal breaker) is how yet another main character survives a stab wound to the chest with a very deadly laser sword. It seems to be a trope of the franchise at this point. Losing an arm or a leg like Anakin and Luke did I can understand. But a stab though a place where critical organs are just seems odd.

Aside from that my nitpicks are legacy character looking or acting differently than they did before. Sabine is just too angst-y, Ahsoka a bit too stoic, Hera just looks off. But that doesn't ruin things for me and I can just ignore it for the sake of an enjoyable story.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: UncleBob on September 22, 2023, 09:21:00 PM
So, like...

Infinity Train.

Go watch it.  Now.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on September 23, 2023, 08:55:26 PM
Does anyone watch TV anymore?

No. TVMan is dead. You killed him. There is only YouTube man now.

Crap. My bad. Maybe Streaming Man will pick up the slack.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 18, 2023, 08:29:03 PM
This is for all the fans of The Haunting of Hill House....

you probably knew that was created, written and directed by Mike Flanagan. Someone I wasn't familiar with till recently even though I'd seen some of his previous works, such as Oculus, Doctor Sleep, Hush, and Ouija: Origins of Evil.

Well, I watched Haunting of Hill House on Netflix back when it came out and it was Excellent. The twist, the scares, the story, I just enjoyed all of it.

He followed that up with The Haunting of Bly Manor and Midnight Club, the first of which I haven't really watched, and the latter was more YA aimed, so my daughter watched an like it, as she was also a fan of Hill House.

Well, The Fall of the House of Usher released about a week or so ago, and I decided to check that out. This too was a really good story where I really enjoyed almost all of what I watched, and would definitely recommend it to anyone that's fans of the genre of Horror and/or Mike Flanagan.

Since i enjoyed the above so much, I went back and tried to watch Midnight Mass, as I had tried to start it before, but it was quite dull start, and I had no idea what it was about or who it was by the first time I tried to watch it.
I just finished it about 20 minutes ago, and even though this gets a slow start, it's part of a worthy buildup to a story worth watching (imo).
I don't want to give anything away on this, as I think that was part of the shock value, figuring out what's going on and what the title has to do with it.

BUt i just wanted to come in here and add this to the list of Horror Content on Netflix that is certainly worth a watch and all by the same guy.

Haunting of Hill House
Midnight Mass
The Fall of the House of Usher

in that order, but they are all a great, and your order may be different.
I might now circle back on Bly Manor now that I finished the other ones, but I went into Bly expecting more of Hill House, and it wasn't the same.

Anyone else checked out these shows on Netflix?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on October 26, 2023, 01:02:47 PM
Wife and I watched Fall of House Usher. Was a very fascinating ride. Not the most "scary", more of an intense suspenseful mystery. We liked looking for the hints for each person's inevitable death.

We watched House Hill and House Bly before. Of them all Usher feels the most satisfying. Hill House the ending felt a bit too "happy" for a horror show unless you subscribe to the dark ending theory.

Bly felt a bit too drawn out, Usher seemed to get the ending good with answering all the questions, keeping the "not perfect happy ending" and knowing when to end things.

We'll check out Midnight Club since we missed that one. Despite my minor complaints with the various shows, they are all fun rides worth going through at least once.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 06, 2023, 01:39:11 AM
New Netflix Anime

Blue Eyed Samurai
- just bonged this over the weekend, and really thought it was well done.
Animation was really good, and the story and characters I felt were also really well written.

there's a small twist that's revealed early on, but I honestly expected it almost immediately, but that only adds to what is happening, not takes away from it.

[minor spoiler related to minor twist]
There is however a really heavy feminist slant, as this is written by woman and contains lots of strong female characters, but I think overall it's really well done and not overly thrown in your face till the end.

The premise is about a blue eyed half breed Japanese kid who is bullied as a "monster" into becoming a samurai who is hell bent on getting revenge not necessarily on those that bullied, but on those that made the main the character a monster.

and to top it off, all the action in this is great. not a bad episode in the bunch.
definitely recommended for all the older anime and action fans, especially those looking for an animation style more reminiscent of Arcane.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJ1yQn17lbE
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: nickmitch on November 26, 2023, 05:13:42 PM
I finally watched Secret Invasion recently. Can't say it was better than ok.

ICYMI, the show follows Nick Fury as he discovers there are more Skrulls on Earth than he originally bargained for. My issue with the series is that it de-mystifies Nick Fury in a way that makes him sad and uninteresting. It's like seeing how a magician does their tricks, and it's just some lazy sleight of hand.

Basically, Nick Fury has been able to know and do things he shouldn't because he's had a small army of Skrulls working for him the whole time. However, the Skrulls are starting to rebel in a ploy to take over Earth, turning Nick Fury's best weapon against him. Also, Fury has lost his mojo. Is the show about him finding his mojo? No. Is it about him making amends to the Skrulls who feel like he's wronged them? Also, no. You basically have to hang out with a less interesting version of the character without really much explanation for why he's lost his confidence. The blip just messed him up, and he ran away to live in space.

In the first episode you get a cheap major character death that only serves to introduce the stakes. I would've preferred they save killing of Maria Hill for something closer to the finale than the intro. Speaking of, the first two episodes are about an hour, and the last two are like 35 minutes. The steady decline in runtime felt weird.

Anyway, there are some cool parts to show. I don't know why he had to do a suit-up montage to get into his Shaft outfit, but it was cool. And the rest of the story is at least interesting, if not awkward at times.

6/10
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 27, 2023, 10:15:32 PM
Checked when/what my last live TV show/series was. It was April and only 3 shows this year with nothing on the horizon this year. Ando, Mando, Avenue 5. Movie consumption isn't much better. Skipped Nolan, but fully intend to watch, as I was in the wrong country (dealing with 4 language streams is Not fun). How the mighty has fallen. Lots of great anime and games though.

Ando: A show we didn't need or asked for, but busted all expectations, justifying its existence and then some. Not because it's Star Wars, but because it's actually good. Would have been even stronger if we didn't know his ultimate fate, curse of the prequel.

Mando: Did not stick the landing. S3 falls apart hard as it throws away it's premise and lacking oh damn commentary like Herzog or Bill Burr. Felt unplanned, the reason we don't know, executive meddling, no expectation of S3, writers ran out of ideas, forgot what Mando is about. Doesn't matter, disappointing.

Avenue 5: Amazing show until the end. The entire cast is unique, simultaneously love to hate and loveable, which is quite the feat. What a shame, canned before it could reach a conclusion.

Question: What is the sequel to Loki? Quantum of something?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on November 28, 2023, 08:37:23 PM
Question: What is the sequel to Loki? Quantum of something?

you mean Ant-Man: Quantumania?

since it's the next appearance of a version of Kang the Conquerer?
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on November 29, 2023, 08:44:19 PM
Ando: A show we didn't need or asked for, but busted all expectations, justifying its existence and then some. Not because it's Star Wars, but because it's actually good. Would have been even stronger if we didn't know his ultimate fate, curse of the prequel.

Yeah I was floored by Andor. The end of the prison arc is one of two times I've felt a major positive emotion in SW for a long time. Its a shame the rest of SW couldn't be even half this good.

Mando: Did not stick the landing. S3 falls apart hard as it throws away it's premise and lacking oh damn commentary like Herzog or Bill Burr. Felt unplanned, the reason we don't know, executive meddling, no expectation of S3, writers ran out of ideas, forgot what Mando is about. Doesn't matter, disappointing.

Wife and I both did not enjoy S3. And we were fans of both previous seasons. We watched the "missing episodes" from Book of Boba Fett because after the Tuskens my wife wanted nothing to do with that show. I don't know if watching those back-to-back with S3 helped or made it worse. Both Grogu's arc, and pretty much everything involving Bo-Katan was not enjoyable. I'm still surprised that Disney opted to make Bo the leader/hero -- a literal terrorist that enabled Maul to take over Mandalore and lost the planet not once, not twice, but three times, with and without the Darksaber. It was like they were contractually obligated to include some things and hit some beats and the creatives were absolutely not all in on the direction.

Question: What is the sequel to Loki? Quantum of something?

Only halfway through Loki S2 and it really feels like its gotten the Agents of Shield treatment where its been quietly sidelined into not being relevant to the overarching story. Wife was not feeling it (as it has been for much of Phase 4/5 of the MCU outside exceptions like Guardians 3 and No Way Home).

If S2 takes place AFTER Quantumania, that just feels extra weak because of how Kang got defeated and trapped there. Maybe the ending will surprise me, but its been pretty predicable and basic so far. Also the whole "retro 50s Sci-Fi" aesthetic and halfhearted time traveling just doesn't feel that engaging. Felt like some weird episodes of Legends of Tomorrow, and not in a good way.

Maybe we were extra harsh on it because it has been so long since S1 and we forgot a lot of what happened, so we were scrambling to remember who was who from the side characters and how the universe worked. Did they have fake local money? Did they need to not mess with events too much? Who were those side agents that barely had screen time in S1 that now seemed overly important in S2? Just felt a little like it didn't get the memo from how things have been going in the greater MCU and should have come out much sooner after S1.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: oohhboy on November 29, 2023, 11:10:52 PM
Disney's output is wildly inconsistent. It's either excellent or dire. When it's terrible, you can't help but feel that some background drama or C-Suite MBA got its fingers into it. When it's good, whether they like Star Wars or whatever doesn't matter, you can see they actually like/pride their job on screen, not faking it on press panels (All of Star Trek).

I never watched the 'Extra' episodes of Mando, didn't get around to it and don't care enough. Bo-Katan wasn't the issue, it's a symptom. Mando had lost his agency and premise. A side character doing side quests, slice of life with guns. Something bigger caught him, and he couldn't get away. People constantly forcing the Dark Sabre on him is pretty funny meta symbolism, intentional or otherwise.

If they wanted him to engage in something bigger, it should have been his choice, his effort. The seasons long arc thread should have been playing keep away with Baby Yoda. Maybe once a season, the big bad shows up, big climax and they get away. Eventually he has to make a moral choice, does he keep his care free life, let a lot of completely unrelated to him people die/end their way of life (Don't always have to kill people) or finally end the threat(Doesn't have to be OUR big bad), with the friends he made along the way. No Mandalor, no dark troopers, just blowing up the big bad's base and erasing their existence from Imperial records. They could have made as many seasons as they wanted with that premise. But nah, everything has to be prestige TV, every episode with double-digit millions budget and plot lines.

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So what is the timeline/watch order of Loki? I would like to see Kang resolved, but if Loki isn't involved, then what? This is a reason why I don't like Marvel/Disney, EVERYTHING has to be connected, important, minimum of one spin off and apocalyptic.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: Stratos on December 24, 2023, 01:24:59 AM
Don't worry, I finished Loki S2. They just quietly solve the issues in the show and the end comments about it in a way that could let them quietly cut off the Kang plot completely or redo it differently.

The time agency exists to hunt down Kang variants. there is a mention of how a "616 adjacent realm" dealt with a serious risk of a Kang insurgence, and any others popping up in the timelines would be dealt with.

I liked the theory that Mobius was actually a Thor variant.
Title: Re: Rate the last TV show you've seen
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 13, 2024, 10:29:26 AM
Echo .... 5/10

Deaf amputee indigenous child taken under Kingpin's wing (for some reason), tries to connect the end of Hawkeye while explaining the past and ongoing relationship between Echo and Kingpin. Also plenty exploration of Echo's Indigenous roots, her connection to her existing family and ancestors, and how that comes to strengthen her today.

Majority of the fight scenes are mid, overall story is weak, and I'm just not really seeing the appeal or point of this particular show, as it didn't even clearly establish what Echo is capable of. All it did in the end, is shuffle Kingpins position on the board, for what I assume will be his role in Daredevil.