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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #725 on: December 17, 2012, 02:54:05 PM »
I think the only people who really want a big jump in hardware power are a certain segment of the hardcore gamers. I get the impression almost nobody who's actually making games (or at least paying for the making of said games) wants a major leap. They want something more along the lines of a more powerful Wii U, that's somewhat more powerful but is mostly an increase in RAM and GPU capabilities.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #726 on: December 17, 2012, 03:59:56 PM »
This is why I think that EA is not going to welcome a new Playstation and Xbox and the higher development costs that go go along with it for a very long time. They may support the systems out in the open, but behind closed doors they would rather milk this generation for wha it's worth.


EA has been rumored to have either early Durango or Orbis dev kits since around E3 2011.

Also EA is expected to have a massive year coming up. Dead Space 3, Sim City, Comand and Conquear, and Dragon Age 3, and battlefield 4 among other things.

Also you really don't think EA plans to do another massive overhaul of Madden/Fifa.  I think they're going to have the same engine for every sports game.

People said the same thing about the Wii when its development costs were lower than the other systems. 



Eh I think most developers want a bigger spec jump than the Wii U. Crytek said they wanted 32GB of ram and hinted that the other next gen systems will have 4-6GB of ram.

With a smart dev unless your working on a major game I'm not expecting costs to increase that much with Durango/Orbis.


The biggest factor that needs to change for the other next gen consoles are more developer friendly in some aspects of the online.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #727 on: December 17, 2012, 05:47:07 PM »
People said the same thing about the Wii when its development costs were lower than the other systems. 

But then you can say the opposite for the DS. I think the PS360 did make a huge cost jump for devs, but when they saw what they could make with it over the Wii, they liked it better. Now, they still haven't really maxed out the current gen, so another huge jump wouldn't be worth it.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #728 on: December 17, 2012, 06:05:50 PM »
Crytek are high if they think consoles will have 32GB of RAM anytime soon, even the top of the line gaming PC's max out at 32GB and that is far more than any PC game requires.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #729 on: December 17, 2012, 06:29:47 PM »
Crytek is an outlier. They'd welcome a major power jump. EA/Activision/Ubisoft and the like, however, I doubt are in that much of a hurry.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #730 on: December 17, 2012, 07:06:30 PM »
While the power jump is mixed opinions I do think the industry are in need of new consoles now. While the 360 and PS3 put up great numbers for a 6-7 year old console during black Friday sales have been going down on systems and software.

One company I am kind of worried about is Obsdian games.  I think South Park will do good enough too keep them alive alongside project eterinty. Only thing is what's next. The project they had for a next gen games with microsoft was canceled (though I think they're in talks to try to start ut back up). Really think they need to look at doublefine as a way to move from retail to digital only.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #731 on: December 17, 2012, 07:14:16 PM »
I can see why Microsoft or Sony might want new consoles, but even there they're both making more money right now than they would be if they were taking a loss on new hardware. The big third party publishers have no real reason to want new hardware.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #732 on: December 17, 2012, 08:00:30 PM »
I see what you mean its probably different looking at it from a gamer than someone on the inside. Just think the industry needs a bit of a refresh to work on new IP and genres.

I think at least the next xbox will do pretty well around launch to justify it. Its been implied that alongside just straight upselling Durango at the $400 price point that they will be selling subsidized versions of the console for $99-$200. They've been testing that on the west coast with the 360 than the summer.


I think that with the expection of a few games most titles are going to be cross gen downports or whole other versions. I'm expecting say madden/fifa/live to be completely different games than the 360/PS3/Wii U version similar to how the 360 was announced.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #733 on: December 18, 2012, 08:53:40 PM »
Australian developer Big Ant Studios has entered into voluntary liquidation (meaning they are shutting down). Most of their games are only released in Australia, like cricket and rugby games. They also developed the GBA versions of The Legend of Spyro: A New Beginning and The Legend of Spyro: The Eternal Night, and the PSP version of Hellboy: The Science of Evil.

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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #734 on: December 19, 2012, 02:58:12 PM »
http://www.polygon.com/2012/12/19/3784984/thq-files-for-bankruptcy-protection-selling-studios-and-games

Looks like THQ is filing for bankruptcy and is going to sell off its assets.

here's a gaf thread with a better explanation of what might happen next.

 http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=504815

Still there's 30 days for someone to make a bid on that.

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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #735 on: December 23, 2012, 11:03:00 PM »
we actually have a separate redundant thread for the THQ thing
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #736 on: December 24, 2012, 05:28:28 PM »
I can see Ubisoft buying a few THQ franchises (Saints Row and Darksiders). WWE could go to 2K or EA, and Warhammer could go to Blizzard.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #737 on: December 26, 2012, 06:46:07 PM »
Or Ubi will just buy the whole thing.

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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #738 on: December 26, 2012, 07:17:56 PM »
Ubisoft's CEO has only said they would be interested in some of THQ's franchises, so I don't think they would buy the whole company. For what it's worth, THQ still plans to release games already in development (including WWE '14, which they started developing back in October), maybe because THQ still owes WWE about $45 million.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #739 on: December 27, 2012, 06:19:08 PM »
Based on my understanding of bankruptcy law, whether WWE gets any of that money is entirely up the bankruptcy trustee. Since I believe the WWE is an unsecured creditor, my guess is that most, if not all, of that cash is going to go to other sources.

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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #740 on: December 27, 2012, 08:36:19 PM »
I would think that the WWE license is a big money-maker for THQ... right?


Who pays who in that situation? Does WWE pay THQ to use the license, or does THQ pay WWE?
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #741 on: December 27, 2012, 08:38:33 PM »
Why would WWE pay THQ? THQ are making the products, so they pay. When you license something, you pay that company. So THQ pays WWE to license the rights to WWE's product, then makes games based on it. $45 million is what THQ still owes WWE as part of their multi-year contract. The WWE games tend to do pretty well (and WWE helps by promoting the hell out of the games every year).
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #742 on: December 29, 2012, 02:24:16 PM »
if anything the Shovelware companies should be forced to go all digital. They pollute the shelves.

As far as the licensing goes. THQ won a bidding war against other video game companies to make WWE games. The last company that had the WWE license was Acclaim. Acclaim went out of business. (acclaim is back but in name only, scratch that they are out of business too)
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #744 on: January 12, 2013, 10:51:10 PM »
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #745 on: January 21, 2013, 10:14:08 AM »
Atari US (owned by French company Atari SA), has filed for bankruptcy and plans to sell off assets like Pong, Centipede, Missile Command, and Asteroids. They even plan to sell of their company logo (though apparently not the name).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/21/atari-us-files-for-bankruptcy-sells-assets-logo/
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #746 on: January 21, 2013, 10:41:21 AM »
Atari US (owned by French company Atari SA), has filed for bankruptcy and plans to sell off assets like Pong, Centipede, Missile Command, and Asteroids. They even plan to sell of their company logo (though apparently not the name).

http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/01/21/atari-us-files-for-bankruptcy-sells-assets-logo/

I honestly didn't think Atari still existed, so I can't say I'll miss the loss of its empty shell.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #747 on: January 21, 2013, 10:53:19 AM »
I think their most recent game was RollerCoaster Tycoon 3D on 3DS.
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #748 on: January 21, 2013, 11:19:54 AM »
Atari has been dead a while now.

Also the THQ Auction is tomorrow
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Re: Games Industry Death Watch 2010-2012
« Reply #749 on: January 21, 2013, 07:34:38 PM »
But that hasn't been same Atari, right? Not since the French company bought them. Infogrames?
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