Post by: Fro on April 27, 2006, 01:12:24 PM
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Miyamoto and Iwata have hinted at a final secret for Wii that has yet to be revealed. And while we're sworn to secrecy, 1UP knows what this secret is -- and it's rather revolutionary. In fact, it's perhaps the most intriguing element of the system -- something with some rather cool implications for gaming. Let's just say that people have more to look forward to at E3.
They also hint at a couple new games on the next page.
Post by: Caterkiller on April 27, 2006, 01:14:03 PM
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 01:15:31 PM
Post by: Ceric on April 27, 2006, 01:15:43 PM
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 01:22:50 PM
That's also the article that got me used to the name Wii.
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 01:31:29 PM
Shouldn't it read "Let's just say that wii have more to look forward to at E3" or has that already gotten old?
Post by: BigJim on April 27, 2006, 01:31:45 PM
It's a stand in the shape of a urine cup for the remote.
AHAHAHAHAHA.. Haha... ha... ah ha... ha... ah.
No really, it's cool. Too bad this system is getting saddled with THAT name, though.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 01:34:18 PM
Post by: BigJim on April 27, 2006, 01:41:49 PM
But the last detail was whispered around the GDC and someone mentioned it to me. And it's interesting. I'm anxious to see what they do with it.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 27, 2006, 01:44:54 PM
Okay...I think this name business has overstimulated me. I'm not making any sense anymore...good day for Wii news, though!
Post by: MaryJane on April 27, 2006, 01:50:07 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 02:29:14 PM
Or that's what a lot of morons here at PGC have led me to believe...
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 27, 2006, 02:55:11 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
TOO BAD NOONE CARES BECAUSE THEY WON'T BUY IT BECAUSE OF THE NAME!
Or that's what a lot of morons here at PGC have led me to believe...
OK now that is severely uncalled for...
Yes, I know some people are ignorant enough that they will NOT buy the Revolution because of the new name.
But all of us that have expressed our dislike of the name have made some very good opinions on it and are really concerned on it. So having people like you call us morons because you don't agree with our opinion is very childish.
You don't mind the new name? Fine. But please, refrain from posting comments like that.
Remember that some of these "morons" keep Planet Gamecube afloat and have expressed their dislike of the game. If it weren't for people like them, you wouldn't be here with your loli rape icon saying we are morons because we dislike the new name.
Who's being the moron now?
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 02:58:54 PM
God forbid planetgamecube not exist and we'd have to go elsewhere, maybe MSN chat where we spend more time anyway.
Or GFF, where they're actually taking this news really reasonably for a change.
Post by: NWR_pap64 on April 27, 2006, 03:04:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
Well, it seems to me like you're both trying for the title.
God forbid planetgamecube not exist and we'd have to go elsewhere, maybe MSN chat where we spend more time anyway.
Or GFF, where they're actually taking this news really reasonably for a change.
If you think our anger towards the new name is childish in there, why don't you stay there?
We both have our reasons for liking and hating the new name. We both have argued our opinions with good and bad points.
So why the hostily towards us that hate the new name? Because it's not what you think.
I admit that I did get over excited at first, and I apologize for it. But now this is getting way out of hand.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 03:04:48 PM
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Originally posted by: pap64
Yes, I know some people are ignorant enough that they will NOT buy the Revolution because of the new name.
But all of us that have expressed our dislike of the name have made some very good opinions on it and are really concerned on it. So having people like you call us morons because you don't agree with our opinion is very childish.
You don't mind the new name? Fine. But please, refrain from posting comments like that.
Remember that some of these "morons" keep Planet Gamecube afloat and have expressed their dislike of the game. If it weren't for people like them, you wouldn't be here with your loli rape icon saying we are morons because we dislike the new name.
Who's being the moron now?
Ahahahaha!
I have YET to see a so-called "good opinion" on the name...All I have seen are elementary school-level urine jokes and insecure forum members...And yes, I do find this level of thinking to be very, VERY moronic...
Loli rape? What the flying ****...
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 03:12:06 PM
Agreed. I'm going to lighten up some. Sorry, guys.
Post by: Nosferat2 on April 27, 2006, 03:33:16 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
TOO BAD NOONE CARES BECAUSE THEY WON'T BUY IT BECAUSE OF THE NAME!
Or that's what a lot of morons here at PGC have led me to believe...
Im a moron and damn proud if it. Rest of post deleted by Mod.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 03:36:03 PM
(seriously, I'll bribe someone)
Post by: The Omen on April 27, 2006, 03:38:21 PM
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Ahahahaha!
I have YET to see a so-called "good opinion" on the name...All I have seen are elementary school-level urine jokes and insecure forum members...And yes, I do find this level of thinking to be very, VERY moronic...
Then you can't read, or refuse to do so. I have mentioned why Nintendo can't afford to slip up with anything-even if it's a perceived slip up, it's all the same when you're trying to change an image that has been called Ki Dee. The name is horrible for marketing, in my opinion. I also said I am buying it, but I would buy it no matter what the name is. The same cannot be said for those who aren't Nintendo whores.
Post by: Zach on April 27, 2006, 03:46:59 PM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
I'm done making fun of the name now.
But the last detail was whispered around the GDC and someone mentioned it to me. And it's interesting. I'm anxious to see what they do with it.
Does it have anything to do with the new name, right now I think the name is crummy, but if Wii somehow means something, I think I could reserve judgement untill E3.
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 03:49:22 PM
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Originally posted by: Bill Aurion
TOO BAD NOONE CARES BECAUSE THEY WON'T BUY IT BECAUSE OF THE NAME!
Or that's what a lot of morons here at PGC have led me to believe...
Im a moron and damn proud if it. Deleted by mod.
I've been totally burnt! Time to go sulk in the corner!
Post by: Ceric on April 27, 2006, 04:06:51 PM
I'm sort of interested in what it will be.
But I know its going to the NHS (The Nintendo Home Suite).
Why you might ask?
Because I have written it and it must be so.
Edit: I found my thread!!!
My version of the Nintendo E3 Speech
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 27, 2006, 04:34:08 PM
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I have YET to see a so-called "good opinion" on the name...All I have seen are elementary school-level urine jokes and insecure forum members...And yes, I do find this level of thinking to be very, VERY moronic...
Gamers in the US are easily swayed by image. EVERYONE in the US is, gamers are no exception. With Red Steel, the Rev looked like it would do what Nintendo has needed to do for a while: take back some of that older demographic market share and earn itself something other than a 3rd place finish.
Revolution was an EXCELLENT name: it described exactly what Nintendo intended to do. The word "Revolution" has been known far and wide as the act of change via force, and that's a pretty bold statement by Nintendo, one which EVERYONE in the world can recognize.
"Wii" lacks that power. It doesn't have the oomph, it doesn't have the name recognition and it sounds like some marketing executive was just trying far too hard to come up with something new and daring.
"Wii" play together? That's not very far from Xbox Live's tagline "It's good to play together."
So, the reasons why I think the name is a bad idea:
1. It's a bad pun. Puns are like passing jokes. Naming a console after a pun? Huh?
2. It loses massive appeal in the US. I don't care what anyone says, Nintendo needs to take back some of the US market and this is arguably their last chance to do so. The name "Revolution" is a very strong name, one which every American can relate to. There are plenty of gamers who I'm sure were on the fence but will decide not to own a "Wii".
3. Nintendo needs as broad of an appeal as it can get. Now is not the time to be changing a name which is already very well received to a name which needs to be explained before anyone even knows how to pronounce it. If I didn't know beforehand, my guess would be that it's some kind of German stereo system, not Nintendo's revolutionary new console.
4. The name just sounds diminutive, weak and lifeless. The DS was named the DS because that's what it was: a handheld with Dual Screens. The Rev was going to be the Revolution in home gaming. The KISS motto (keep it simple, stupid) was the WAY to go here. It worked for the DS and I have no doubt it would have worked for the Rev.
I think the name is a bad idea. I know it's going to hurt sales. There's not a doubt in my mind that Nintendo will LOSE sales because of this name change.
Furthermore, our opinions don't matter. We're PGC posters: we're the hardest of the hardcore Nintendo fanboys. You think what WE think of the console name means anything? We're already guaranteed sales.
We're not Nintendo's target market because they don't need to do any marketing to us. Their target market is the player who wasn't going to buy their console and I know for a fact that they've alienated likely thousands of those with this weak and unimpressive name.
Post by: JonLeung on April 27, 2006, 05:07:23 PM
And like I said in the other topic, "PlayStation" (as a "station of play") is probably the most childish name of a console ever. As I said, a play station belongs in a day care. Now tell me if that name didn't become accepted, or that its name hurt its sales. You can't, can you?
Regardless of what you think of the name (hey, I don't think it's hot either), I'm going to be experiencing one in less than two weeks and I bet a bunch of people will have one before the year is over. Yeah, some stupid people will simply NOT buy it because of the name, but I don't really care what THEY think.
Post by: AnyoneEB on April 27, 2006, 05:27:51 PM
Post by: Bill Aurion on April 27, 2006, 05:58:35 PM
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Originally posted by: Ceric
"Bill": You are not Bill you imposter. Turn over your cute avatar now. You just don't seem like yourself today.
I may seem tame, but I actually have quite a bit of a mean streak...Particularly when half the board goes cynical on me...(Doesn't help that I'm in the middle of exam week, stressed out enough as it is...) =\
What REALLY bothers me is the topic title...That is, that people would rather whine about the name than discuss the possibilities of this "intriguing element"...
Post by: Blue Plant on April 27, 2006, 06:01:53 PM
And, oh yes, I'm really interested in this last secret. ^_^ Curse E3 for being so close, yet so far away...
Post by: Mario on April 27, 2006, 06:12:40 PM
If this new secret is more intriguing than the remote and "Wii", then nobody here has a CHANCE of guessing it.
Post by: KnowsNothing on April 27, 2006, 06:24:38 PM
Post by: Michael8983 on April 27, 2006, 06:44:34 PM
Some way of bringing "wii" gamers together. Like a whole new take on online play that will make it easier to connect and play with local gamers perhaps with a Pictochat like program, focused on real communication and building real relationships as opposed to just playing with some random stranger on the other side of the country.
Post by: Artimus on April 27, 2006, 06:48:54 PM
Sounds exciting. I really hope it is good. I can't imagine what it is though...
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Post by: zakkiel on April 27, 2006, 07:57:17 PM
QuoteHe usually is when people are insufficiently adulatory towards Nintendo.
So having people like you call us morons because you don't agree with our opinion is very childish.
I've turned this name over in my head, asked myself if it can grow on me. And I've decided that if it does, I will lose all respect for myself. Because it could maan Nintendo really could do anything, and I would convince myself it's right. I would basically have to abandon any pretense that my opinions about Nintendo had any validity, because I would always convince myself that Nintendo knows best.
And there are no "intriguing possibilities" in a name. As has been said, it's a name. There are no depths or aspects to be revealed. A year from now, it will still suck just as much.
Post by: Kairon on April 27, 2006, 08:04:16 PM
... Of course, all this negativity over tha name reminds me of Asche's experiment on conformity.
... I better have aced that test.
~Carmine M. Red
Kairon@aol.com
Post by: BigJim on April 27, 2006, 08:25:52 PM
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Originally posted by: BigJim
I'm done making fun of the name now.
But the last detail was whispered around the GDC and someone mentioned it to me. And it's interesting. I'm anxious to see what they do with it.
Does it have anything to do with the new name, right now I think the name is crummy, but if Wii somehow means something, I think I could reserve judgement untill E3.
If it does, I didn't get that connection. So I would say no.
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 27, 2006, 08:48:48 PM
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Originally posted by: zakkiel
I've turned this name over in my head, asked myself if it can grow on me. And I've decided that if it does, I will lose all respect for myself. Because it could maan Nintendo really could do anything, and I would convince myself it's right. I would basically have to abandon any pretense that my opinions about Nintendo had any validity, because I would always convince myself that Nintendo knows best.
Come on now. You've never disagreed with any Nintendo decisions so far?
Be that as it may, I like this name but no amount of Nintendo PR can make me accept Metroid Prime Hunters or this vapid online direction they seem to be going in.
Let the marketing execs at Nintendo decide on the most effective name for their console... but when marketing seeps into and effectively lobotomizes the games they make is when I get angry.
Anyway... the editorial/blog seems to have been edited since the quote, because they no longer directly claim to know the secret.
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 27, 2006, 08:53:43 PM
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Originally posted by: Mario If this new secret is more intriguing than the remote and "Wii", then nobody here has a CHANCE of guessing it.
I'm thinking "Wii", in the context the site used it, indicates that Nintendo is not only doing something with online play, but they intend to do something with it that no one has ever done before. Then again, that could be hype and we're used to seeing things like that be overblown by Nintendo.
Either that, or like the editors suggested in their discussion, Wii stands for "Wireless Interactive Innovation" or something along those lines, indicative of the Revmote.
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Originally posted by: PaLaDiN Be that as it may, I like this name but no amount of Nintendo PR can make me accept Metroid Prime Hunters or this vapid online direction they seem to be going in.
Not to be the harbinger of sorrow or anything, but all this talk about "we will change it together" seems to indicate that Nintendo has some rather extensive online plans.
At least, that'd be my first guess.
Post by: Zach on April 27, 2006, 09:24:12 PM
Something like this probably wouldnt be the big secret, but it would be pretty smart, People wouldnt have to buy all of the accessories that they already have for their computers.
Post by: PaLaDiN on April 27, 2006, 09:39:47 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 27, 2006, 10:50:18 PM
Post by: IceCold on April 27, 2006, 10:52:19 PM
QuoteConsidering Jim didn't know about the name and was as surprised about it as us, I don't think so..
Does it have anything to do with the new name, right now I think the name is crummy, but if Wii somehow means something, I think I could reserve judgement untill E3.
EDIT: Jim already replied..
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 27, 2006, 10:53:24 PM
Post by: Ceric on April 28, 2006, 03:45:07 AM
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Originally posted by: KnowsNothing
Wii can bake a pototo in under a minute.
Don't forget about the waffles too.
I be set. Never hungry again. With the built in NHS I wouldn't even have to leave to change the air condtioning or turn off the lights.
I definetly by two. One to play with and another to cook with.
Edit Also what if Wii is really a hint at the true purpose of the Wii. There can only be 1 Wii per person why you might ask. Well it's really a symbiote like Venom. Once you get your Wii it will integrate itself into you and you shall then truly be a We. The digitial components of it will allow you to access the internet wirelessly with your mind. Interface and exchange information with other people vy your USB ports. Maybe after honing yourself well enough with another Wii user combining to be one Wii unit helping control the population.
So what do I sacrifice for this greatness? Some indepence that's all. The Wii side of you would be controllable therefore making you controllable to. Then the Revolution will occur. Nintendo will rised to the domninance of nations and no one will now it. We will unwitting puppets at there greatness. Never the wiser. For We are Wii and We came to play.
Post by: trip1eX on April 28, 2006, 05:42:08 AM
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Miyamoto and Iwata have hinted at a final secret for Wii that has yet to be revealed. And while we're sworn to secrecy, 1UP knows what this secret is -- and it's rather revolutionary. In fact, it's perhaps the most intriguing element of the system -- something with some rather cool implications for gaming. Let's just say that people have more to look forward to at E3.
I think 1up did some backpedaling because the quote you referenced actually reads like this now:
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Miyamoto and Iwata have hinted at a final secret for Wii that has yet to be revealed. And while we don't have all the details, we've heard that what's in store is exciting indeed -- secrets of a rather revolutionary nature, with some rather cool implications for gaming. Needless to say, we're looking forward to E3
Post by: pudu on April 28, 2006, 05:50:18 AM
Also, if Nintendo reveals something even close to as big as the original controller revealing then...I will be stunned. Nintendo knows how to own E3 though and this year they already have it in the bag imo...call it a gut feeling
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 05:54:16 AM
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Originally posted by: Hostile Creation
What can I say? I like violently opposing the popular opinion.
So you just blindly go against what the majority says without even questioning your own motives?
I'd suggest contemplating the consequences and weighing the evidence before I tried to form an opinion, not just adopt a counter opinion and run with it.
Post by: mantidor on April 28, 2006, 07:57:01 AM
And we are two weeks away from finding out, so I see any speculation about the secret as a waste of time.
Post by: couchmonkey on April 28, 2006, 08:00:14 AM
I'm very interested in the final secret. I have trouble imagining something that could be as exciting as the controller itself. And if it's better than the nunchuck having some motion detection...well, that wasn't HUGE, but it was already a cool addition, in my opinion.
Maybe some ultra-realistic force-feedback? It would be cool, but I doubt it can be done in a wireless controller without sacrificing a ton of battery life. Ultimately, whatever it is will probably take me totally by surprise. I'm getting really excited now!
Post by: Ceric on April 28, 2006, 08:10:46 AM
Post by: Spak-Spang on April 28, 2006, 08:11:43 AM
But, I am curious and excited to see what Nintendo is capable of doing. They are really quite impressive when they go all out on games, hardware and ect. Always thinking outside the box to where we can't even fathom what the creators are thinking.
Post by: EasyCure on April 28, 2006, 08:40:01 AM
i meant "something else" ....is that joke dead yet?
the only thing more annoying than having to wait two more weeks till e3 is that Jon keeps bragging about GOING to the damn thing. to quote hostile creation "you should be shot"
sorry
Post by: Smash_Brother on April 28, 2006, 08:46:27 AM
Like a wee little man live inside the Rev and comes out to talk to you or something...
And I think this psycho-babble bullsh*t about "wii will be one and wii will change the world" is far, FAR more likely to scare off non-gamers than any other possible name out there.
Post by: Crimm on April 28, 2006, 12:35:06 PM
It would have to literally sing and dance while you played.
Side note: if it turns out to be singing and dancing I should get a prize.
Post by: Crimm on April 28, 2006, 12:37:19 PM
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I hope to GOD it has something to do with "wee" so the name will make more sense.
Like a wee little man live inside the Rev and comes out to talk to you or something...
I thought ROB was scary as a kid, my little sister would be traumatized.
Post by: Hostile Creation on April 28, 2006, 01:01:20 PM
I'd suggest contemplating the consequences and weighing the evidence before I tried to form an opinion, not just adopt a counter opinion and run with it."
Blah blah blah. I'll do what I want, thanks. Besides, this is the internet. You think it's going to affect anything? You think I'm not competent enough to handle things in reality?
Y'see, if I didn't oppose your opinion, PGC would have just been a cesspit of stupid whining from everyone who didn't like it. For a while I was the only one saying anything different, midday Thursday. And that annoys me more than any name ever could, so I couldn't let that pass.
Gotta have priorities.
Post by: King of Twitch on April 28, 2006, 01:18:15 PM
