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Title: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: ShyGuy on July 14, 2008, 02:40:39 PM
Highlights:

- RE5 online coop
- Mii too avatar rip offs
- Galaga looks cool
- Eye Toy rip off is horrid.
- Bad Lips Commercial
- Master Chief dancing
- Lotta music games.
- Final Fantasy rip offs
- Actuall Final Fantasy. Sony am PWNED
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Mario on July 14, 2008, 02:44:24 PM
This is embarassing
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 14, 2008, 03:00:51 PM
Wow other than that Re5 news everything is atrocious...just like Sony's E3 2006.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: stevey on July 14, 2008, 03:05:58 PM
This shall never be forgotten
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2008, 03:10:43 PM
Ahahahaha. Square-Enix proves it: PS3 is dead.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: RABicle on July 14, 2008, 03:13:12 PM
Co-Op fucking TV watching. This was teh poorest conference ever.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Pale on July 14, 2008, 03:14:13 PM
FF 13 is just a multiplatform release.  This won't change 360s standing in Japan at all really.

I thought for sure Wada-san was going to make me buy a 360 there.... phew.  Bullet dodged.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: NWR_pap64 on July 14, 2008, 03:17:08 PM
So the rumors are true, the MS conference WAS a bomb.

The FFXIII thing was expected. Its true that it won't change the outlook of the 360 in Japan, but the PS3 losing a major exclusive still hurts.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Kairon on July 14, 2008, 03:18:24 PM
Poor sony fanbois. I know what they're going through.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: vudu on July 14, 2008, 03:19:08 PM
I know it's shallow of me, but I breathed a sign of relief when the Xmote was nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 14, 2008, 03:22:10 PM
So without the xmote announced does that mean that MS got double pwned by Nintendo's dongle?
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: ShyGuy on July 14, 2008, 03:28:48 PM
Have no fear, the Mii Too avatars will help the 360 triumph over Nintendo!
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Urkel on July 14, 2008, 03:32:34 PM
FFXIII? But... but... Cell! This game can only be done with the power of Cell!

Exclusivity in console gaming is offically dead this day.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: ShyGuy on July 14, 2008, 03:39:28 PM
I bet it comes on multiple DVDs for the 360
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 14, 2008, 03:44:08 PM
It was fun chatting with you guys during the conference, lets do it again tomorrow!

Oh yeah, and the blog post is coming. I will link to the chat in there.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 14, 2008, 03:49:18 PM
Microsoft spent a lot of money developing avatars and this "new Xbox 360 experience" but they will soon find out what many Wii owners found out.  The Miis are cool, but can become stale very quickly...it is temporary fun and not something to build an E3 show off of. 

Microsoft should of just left that alone...the Miis or Home are not going to be a huge selling point for either Wii or PS3. 

Nothing else in the show excited me.  Though I will say, that the Mortal Kombat vs DC had made me throw up on the inside.  I love my DC and that is just destroying everything I love about DC.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: KDR_11k on July 14, 2008, 03:52:14 PM
FF 13 is just a multiplatform release.  This won't change 360s standing in Japan at all really.

I think it might help them in Japan since the PS3 is no longer the console you must own if you want FF, you can go with the cheaper 360 which also has more games (has the most RPGs this gen I think). Previously the lack of FF was a reason to avoid the 360.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: walkingdead2 on July 14, 2008, 03:56:40 PM
i wouldn't say it was a bomb.  you had gears 2/ ff13 (a major coup for Microsoft) re5 and a few other games that look good that we already know about. im glad i have a 360 now.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: ShyGuy on July 14, 2008, 03:58:43 PM
The new XBL interface is horrrrrrrible.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 14, 2008, 04:03:37 PM
I did not expect anything HUGE from MS because from what I've learned from talking to their Franchise Manager, they do not consider E3 that big anymore. Regardless the FF13 announcement is quite big in that it hits Sony hard.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 14, 2008, 04:04:59 PM
It's laffable so much of the last gen RE4 assets have been reused.  Way to go, HD gaming.
The controls are laffably stiff looking and dated.  More firepower?  Less scary.

Chris Redfield looks disgusting.

T-Virus Bad
Las Plagas Bad
Steroids Good

HULK SMASH

Huh?  No one's complaining that you can't shoot and strafe at the same time in a HD game?  Why is that, internet?
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 14, 2008, 04:06:42 PM
RE5 is looking like the same thing, but seriously what do you expect? They milked RE1s horrid control scheme for 3 other games (Not to mention the remakes). It is too bad there is no RE for Wii because they could actually innovate with the controller.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 14, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
I actually expected improvements to RE5 since so much money is being thrown at it to be Call of Metal Gear4 w/ Zomboids.

RE is dead.  Mikami is gone.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: jakeOSX on July 14, 2008, 04:08:57 PM
damnit! why did netflix have to come out for the xbox??? !!! come on wii/ps3 netflix!

oh and ps3 will still have ff13 vs (whatever that is) probably still an exclusive.

the mii rip-off was blatent even for microsoft. besides they are not HARDCORE enough, i would expect MS Mii's to all be masterchief.

oh and here is the motion sensor thingy:http://www.engadget.com/2008/07/14/microsoft-announces-lips-karaoke-game-with-motion-sensitive-mics/

it is a microphone.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: ShyGuy on July 14, 2008, 04:10:14 PM
RE5 better be on the Wii then, or I'm gonna burn this mother down!
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: walkingdead2 on July 14, 2008, 04:20:32 PM
i think you guys are really judging this thing to harshly.  ff13 is huge due to the fact that every copy sold on the 360 is one that sony isn't getting.  not to mention that Microsoft has a bigger install base.  as far as killer apps go there was only gears 2.  but re5, ff13 and the other rpg's that were mentioned like infinite undiscovry and star ocean means that people don't have to buy a ps3.  i actually think this was really huge from the stand point of taking wind out of sony sails/sales. take that pun however you want.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 14, 2008, 04:29:18 PM
For anyone who missed the conference, I hit all the major points in a blog post. Check it out (http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/blogArt.cfm?artid=16352).
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Caliban on July 14, 2008, 04:37:59 PM
I'm surprised RE5 is only coming out in March 2009.

It's laffable so much of the last gen RE4 assets have been reused.  Way to go, HD gaming.
The controls are laffably stiff looking and dated.  More firepower?  Less scary.

Chris Redfield looks disgusting.

T-Virus Bad
Las Plagas Bad
Steroids Good

HULK SMASH

Agreed. Chris looks awful. His bulging arms make him look monsterous. His BSAA partner however looks great.

The new XBL interface is horrrrrrrible.

As long as it is functional and easy to use it's all good.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: BeautifulShy on July 14, 2008, 04:38:55 PM
Thanks Mr.Jack.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 14, 2008, 04:39:03 PM
The new XBL interface is horrrrrrrible.

As long as it is functional and easy to use it's all good.

It's ugly and it looks awkward as hell to use. Just as bad as the blades IMO.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Caliban on July 14, 2008, 04:40:54 PM
Really? hmm, well we will see when we get the chance to try them.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 14, 2008, 04:44:36 PM
Really? hmm, well we will see when we get the chance to try them.

Yeah, I will hold off final judgment until I can use it myself, but as of now, it just didn't look very promising.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 14, 2008, 04:57:13 PM
I think that the conference was boring yet again they just focused on the current year and early next year. The only thing that was a surprise is FF:XIII but it wont pose a big impact sure it may steal some sales but its not a big deal. I hate how the new interface looks its just too sterile but the party thing is pretty cool. The avatars are just lame.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: vudu on July 14, 2008, 04:59:40 PM
Was there any mention of Too Human during the entire show?  If not, that's not a good sign for the game.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Nick DiMola on July 14, 2008, 05:01:18 PM
Was there any mention of Too Human during the entire show?  If not, that's not a good sign for the game.

Nope, but they put up the demo today for it to speak for itself.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Stogi on July 14, 2008, 05:06:50 PM
RE5 is going to be on the Wii. Limited exclusivity is the phrase.

Capcom is going to whore it out like all the other franchises.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Bill Aurion on July 14, 2008, 05:08:54 PM
So I missed nothing, really?  Meh...
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Morari on July 14, 2008, 05:10:36 PM
Though I will say, that the Mortal Kombat vs DC had made me throw up on the inside.  I love my DC and that is just destroying everything I love about DC.

I felt the same way about Mortal Kombat...
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 14, 2008, 05:11:37 PM
New features for the next dashboard update.

    *  Play from hard drive. You'll be able to copy game discs to your Xbox 360 hard drive. Installing the games will prevent wear 'n tear on the disc drive, and will shorten load times. You will still need the disc in the disc tray to prove you own the game. 
    * Access Xbox LIVE Marketplace on the Web. If you're not near your Xbox 360, you can still use this "Internet" thing to browse and purchase things from the Marketplace. Once you purchase something from Xbox.com, it will download automatically to your console while you're away.
    * Xbox LIVE Primetime. This is a "whole new category of games" that not only supports Achievements and leaderboards, but will also offer real prizes. Games are played throughout the Xbox LIVE network and each game is "broadcast simultaneously" so that everyone is partaking in the same activity. These events can feature live hosts, "calling the shots as they happen."
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: blackfootsteps on July 14, 2008, 07:16:44 PM
New features for the next dashboard update.

    *  Play from hard drive. You'll be able to copy game discs to your Xbox 360 hard drive. Installing the games will prevent wear 'n tear on the disc drive, and will shorten load times. You will still need the disc in the disc tray to prove you own the game. 

Our disc drive is crap, please don't use it. I can't see myself installing games on my 20gb, perhaps more useful for those with Elites.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Mikintosh on July 14, 2008, 07:27:38 PM
Yeah, I'm really going to use up my hard drive to "decrease load times". Isn't it still going to make that loud disc reading noise while I play even if I install the damn thing? Though the Netflix thing sounds cool because I'd much rather stream content to my TV than my computer (tho I'd still rather just have the DVD, but I guess this is pretty convenient).

I would've preferred Street Fighter vs. DC, not only because I'm not a Mortal Kombat fan, but because they (Capcom & DC) match each others tones much better (no fatalities to remove), and Marvel vs. Capcom already showed how well superheroes fit in with the Capcom characters. But I guess it looks interesting; enough for a rental and maybe a Greatest Hits buy if it's worth it. A minor nitpick: I really hate that almost know preview videos/trailers for games actually show the visuals that'll be on the screen (lifebar, etc.). It's like they're trying to pretend to be a movie, and they all fail in the comparison because it's totally the wrong context.

And the new interface is awful; hopefully it's optional.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Spak-Spang on July 14, 2008, 07:47:18 PM
Well, a Capcom vs. DC in 2D would of sold Millions instantly...which is why such a logical game doesn't exist. 

If I was Warner Bros.  Right after Marvel vs. Capcom became big...I would have been pursuing Capcom to make a Capcom vs. DC and fund the entire project.

This Mortal Kombat vs. DC just doesn't fit the universes very well...and everything from character design and feel is just bad.  The game really needed to be 2D and that is final.

Just imagine a Capcom vs DC in the vein of Marvel vs Capcom 1 (Not 2)

Pitting the characters of:

Ryu, Ken, Chun Li vs. Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman. 

It would have been perfect.

Hell, Guilty Gear vs. DC fits better than Mortal Kombat vs. DC.

Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Mario on July 14, 2008, 09:18:49 PM
This actually has turned me off buying a 360 for now, which is a shame because i've already bought a few games for it.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on July 15, 2008, 04:52:54 AM
What is with the double dose of dorks to start the show? The opening present was horrendous and the Fallout III dork made some lame jokes. Also am I the only one that thought Gears of RE5? The game looks purely action now.

I was actually surprised to see that 3rd party Wii revenue was higher than PS3 (BTW MS's graph comparing install base to Wii was hilarious)
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Stogi on July 15, 2008, 05:21:16 AM
No, your not the only one. RE5's mood has been cut to ****. It doesn't look scary anymore. Plus they added an ASSAULT RIFLE for god sakes!

And I thought the TMP in RE4 made things a little to easy.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on July 15, 2008, 09:28:25 AM
Aparently Final Fantasy 13 on 360 is only for Europe and North America, in Japan FF13 is PS3 exclusive.

Here is an excerpt from a live blog:

1:00 - Heidi Kemps asks when these will ship. Will PS3 and 360 ship at the same time? They say that they are just ready to star Xbox 360 development now. It will release in Japan first. Then, PS3 development/translation will begin, and Xbox 360 version should start about the same time. As for the US, the PS3 and 360 will release at the same time. Europe will also get a matched date, though it may not be the same time as the US date.
 
Kitase adds that they will try to get the Europe and US release dates as close as possible.

1:04- Shane from 1UP asks about Japan and the Xbox 360 version. He says that he hears that it is not coming to Japan. Hashimoto confirms that is is not coming out in Japan for the Xbox 360. As for Infinite Undiscovery, it is a 360 exclusive. Last Remnant will also be at first, but will probably be a PS3 title later.

1:07- Rob. Workman from GameDaily is asking about exclusive content for the different versions of FF 13. They have no intention to make different versions for the different platforms.

1:09 - A Japanese press member asks about the reasoning for the lack of an Xbox 360 Japanese release. Hashimoto says that he likes the spread of the Xbox 360 in Europe and the US, and they have not changed their mind on a Japanese version.
Title: Re: Microsoft's E3 2008 conference
Post by: walkingdead2 on July 15, 2008, 10:01:36 AM
Aparently Final Fantasy 13 on 360 is only for Europe and North America, in Japan FF13 is PS3 exclusive.

Here is an excerpt from a live blog:

1:00 - Heidi Kemps asks when these will ship. Will PS3 and 360 ship at the same time? They say that they are just ready to star Xbox 360 development now. It will release in Japan first. Then, PS3 development/translation will begin, and Xbox 360 version should start about the same time. As for the US, the PS3 and 360 will release at the same time. Europe will also get a matched date, though it may not be the same time as the US date.
 
Kitase adds that they will try to get the Europe and US release dates as close as possible.

1:04- Shane from 1UP asks about Japan and the Xbox 360 version. He says that he hears that it is not coming to Japan. Hashimoto confirms that is is not coming out in Japan for the Xbox 360. As for Infinite Undiscovery, it is a 360 exclusive. Last Remnant will also be at first, but will probably be a PS3 title later.

1:07- Rob. Workman from GameDaily is asking about exclusive content for the different versions of FF 13. They have no intention to make different versions for the different platforms.

1:09 - A Japanese press member asks about the reasoning for the lack of an Xbox 360 Japanese release. Hashimoto says that he likes the spread of the Xbox 360 in Europe and the US, and they have not changed their mind on a Japanese version.


thats probably just a money thing.  they sold about 35 or 40 360 so far in japan since its launch.