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Re: Official NFL Discussion: Great Googly Moogly
« Reply #1150 on: January 30, 2021, 11:08:46 PM »
Huge blockbuster trade tonight. The Rams acquire Matthew Stafford from the Lions in exchange for two future 1sts, a 3rd, and Jared Goff. The Rams have been mortgaging their future to win now for the last few years, and now they're doubling down on that strategy. The last time the Rams had a first round pick was 2016 (which was Goff, who's now gone), and now they won't have one until at least 2023.

Also, if Stafford is worth that much, how much can Houston get for DeShaun Watson, who's younger and better and under contract for longer?
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: Great Googly Moogly
« Reply #1151 on: January 31, 2021, 12:17:49 AM »
Gonna be really interesting to see what happens with Watson.  Was Houston already shopping him around?  I'm wondering if Stafford was the best trade available right at that moment, or if the Rams just wanted him more, or if Houston's asking price is that much higher.
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: Great Googly Moogly
« Reply #1152 on: January 31, 2021, 03:27:16 AM »
Detroit had committed to trading Stafford already while Houston's still acting like they might not trade Watson. I don't know if the Rams had enough ammo to get Watson anyway, especially if it turns into a bidding war. We've never really seen anything like this before, so it's hard to tell how it will go.
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: Great Googly Moogly
« Reply #1153 on: February 01, 2021, 12:43:56 PM »
My brother and I have gotten into the habit of referring to Goff as "Jared Goof".  The guy got badly exposed in the Superbowl a few years back.  The Patriots realized that Goff was relying entirely on Sean McVay's playcalling so they would hold off on setting their defensive formation until after the headsets were turned off.  Unlike good quarterbacks, Goff couldn't react on the fly to the defense and the offense went nowhere.  Oddly enough Goff's huge contract came AFTER he was exposed as a fraud and the Rams organization would logically have known he was a fraud the entire time.  Never made any sense to me.

Goff is a quarterback that succeeds because of the organization around him while Stafford has probably succeeded despite it.  So in theory the trade makes sense for LA.  There is a lot of risk involved of course.  But if they win a Superbowl I doubt Rams fans will care if they have no first round draft pick for several years.  I suppose in theory if this all fails and they need the picks back they could probably get them by trading Aaron Donald or flipping Stafford again since there is always someone desperate for a quarterback.

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: Great Googly Moogly
« Reply #1154 on: February 08, 2021, 12:43:26 AM »
Nothing on 7 time Superbowl champ.
First time home team on home field in Superbowl.
Blowout of the Chief's, bouncing balls off receivers facemask in the end zone, Superbowl LV that aired tonight?

.... Ok
How about that halftime show though?
He spent an extra $7M of his own money on that....

No, no one cares about that either... Ok.

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1155 on: February 08, 2021, 11:45:58 AM »
At half time my entire family was cursing out the refs for some iffy calls on the Chiefs, but they had the second half to come back and couldn't seem to do anything right.  Their first drive in the second half looked promising and then both Hill and Kelce slipped on downs that looked like easy receptions, despite it not having raining and no one else slipping and sliding everywhere.  It was just that kind of game.  Ever have a situation where you rave about this restaurant you've been to and when you finally get friends of yours to go there with you it's the one time the food gets burnt and the waiters mess up your order and your friends and all like "what's the big deal with this place?"  That was the Chiefs last night.  I tell my parents they're the most impressive offense ever and then they completely **** the bed in the one game my parents watch.

I don't care for Tom Brady but my brother made a good point that one thing you have to give Brady credit for is that he does not squander opportunities.  If you slip on a banana peel he will finish you off, and I've seen hundreds of games where one team was just begging the other to defeat them and they didn't do it.  The guy always shows up ready to play and takes advantage of whatever opening there is.

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1156 on: February 08, 2021, 01:38:02 PM »
That game was hard to watch at times.  Some pretty bad missed calls at the beginning, and no offensive line for Mahomes all night.  The play of Mahomes throwing the ball while horizontal only to hit his receiver in the facemask is a pretty good summary for the night.  He played the best football he possibly could, but it was clearly not enough.

KC couldn't do too much on defense either, but that TB12 pick getting called back didn't help.
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1157 on: February 08, 2021, 03:17:55 PM »
The face mask bounce has to become a meme that goes viral.

and can't forget "he can't keep getting away with it".jpg for Brady.

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1158 on: February 08, 2021, 03:19:42 PM »
The play of Mahomes throwing the ball while horizontal only to hit his receiver in the facemask is a pretty good summary for the night.  He played the best football he possibly could, but it was clearly not enough.

Last night was a textbook example of a superstar player being let down by his teammates.  While the calls were ticky-tacky, Mahomes was on the sideline while his defense gave up two touchdowns almost entirely on penalties (including lining up offside on a field goal, what the hell?).  His offensive line couldn't block **** and then he would escape and throw some miracle pass only for his receiver to drop it.  It really shows his composure that he didn't throw his teammates under the bus in post-game interviews or have a Philip Rivers-style freak out on the field.

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1159 on: February 08, 2021, 03:29:19 PM »
Mahomes is confident that they gonna be back again.
Brady's clock only has so many ticks left.

speaking of which, did Brady sign a multi-year?
Is he gonna try for 1 more next season? or is he gonna retire on top?

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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1160 on: February 08, 2021, 04:19:24 PM »
It was a two-year deal.  He could go out on top, but I guess only time will tell.  I don't think he wants to retire though.
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1161 on: February 08, 2021, 04:25:53 PM »
The play of Mahomes throwing the ball while horizontal only to hit his receiver in the facemask is a pretty good summary for the night.  He played the best football he possibly could, but it was clearly not enough.

Last night was a textbook example of a superstar player being let down by his teammates.  While the calls were ticky-tacky, Mahomes was on the sideline while his defense gave up two touchdowns almost entirely on penalties (including lining up offside on a field goal, what the hell?).  His offensive line couldn't block **** and then he would escape and throw some miracle pass only for his receiver to drop it.  It really shows his composure that he didn't throw his teammates under the bus in post-game interviews or have a Philip Rivers-style freak out on the field.

Some of those penalties were bad calls from the refs, but the stupid mistakes (especially that FG offsides) were downright embarrassing.  He had every right to go after his teammates, but I think he recognizes that not every QB gets to call out his teammates in front of the press like that.
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Re: Official NFL Discussion: If You Only Count The Legal Points, KC Wins
« Reply #1162 on: February 08, 2021, 09:51:15 PM »
Most of the penalties were legit, but the problem is Kansas City was playing that way all season and they chose this moment to start calling them on it. If officiating had been consistent over the course of the season the Chiefs either would have cut that out or not been in the Super Bowl.
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