Author Topic: Not a political discussion... (Read 5566 times)

UncleBob · « **on:** March 04, 2007, 04:16:38 PM »

This isn't a political discussion, but a simple statement of fact.

I just did my taxes and man, they take out way to much.

If it wern't for Uncle Sam, I could have bought my second GameCube by now.

Heck, if it wern't for Uncle Sam, I could have bought almost 100 GameCubes by now...

IceCold · « **Reply #1 on:** March 04, 2007, 05:00:25 PM »

It's hardly a simple statement of fact.

Shift Key · « **Reply #2 on:** March 04, 2007, 07:34:04 PM »

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In this world nothing is certain but death and taxes.

UncleBob · « **Reply #3 on:** March 05, 2007, 12:56:59 AM »

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Originally posted by: IceCold
It's hardly a simple statement of fact.

It's a simple statement of fact that the government took out more money from my/my wife's pay than some people make in a year. That, IMHO, is quite a bit too much.

It's a simple statement of fact that I could have bought multiple extra GameCubes this year if not for paying taxes.

odifiend · « **Reply #4 on:** March 05, 2007, 01:49:34 AM »

At least you are married - that is a tax break right there. After taxes this year I'm looking to father a child... and a wife.

UltimatePartyBear · « **Reply #5 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:19:02 AM »

That's just wrong.

couchmonkey · « **Reply #6 on:** March 05, 2007, 03:26:25 AM »

I'm glad someone else saw it!

IceCold · « **Reply #7 on:** March 05, 2007, 07:22:35 AM »

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It's a simple statement of fact that the government took out more money from my/my wife's pay than some people make in a year. That, IMHO, is quite a bit too much.

It's a simple statement of fact that I could have bought multiple extra GameCubes this year if not for paying taxes.

In your first post, you followed up your "statement of fact" sentence by writing "they take out way too much" in the very next sentence. That you could have bought those GameCubes is definitely a fact, but you made it seem like it's a fact that they take out too much.

BlackNMild2k1 · « **Reply #8 on:** March 05, 2007, 07:26:47 AM »

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Originally posted by: odifiend
At least you are married - that is a tax break right there. After taxes this year I'm looking to father a child... and a wife.

0_o

Smoke39 · « **Reply #9 on:** March 05, 2007, 11:04:37 AM »

I think Bob is in need of some banning for trying to instigate political "discussion" with opinions hiden among simple statements of fact.

stevey · « **Reply #10 on:** March 05, 2007, 11:56:01 AM »

"Bought a second gamecube"

Didn't you just by a brand new nes-gamecube just a few months ago?

UncleBob · « **Reply #11 on:** March 05, 2007, 12:03:22 PM »

I bought it and sent it back angerly because it wasn't what was advertised (Not that I was expecting an NES Cube, but it was *not* Factory Refurbished - at least in the sense that anyone "official" had refurbed it... it was in horrible shape...)

wandering · « **Reply #12 on:** March 05, 2007, 04:18:55 PM »

18 Days · « **Reply #13 on:** March 05, 2007, 10:19:26 PM »

Maybe if America spent less money on killing people you could have a tax break.

odifiend · « **Reply #14 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:07:14 AM »

Tax season was pretty rough for me this year. I'm 20 years old but I owed the IRS and my state even after being taxed at a rate of around 25%. I would find a wife, not father one

. Though if I could figure out a way to father wives... hmm... and moved to Utah, then maybe I'd get many, many tax breaks.

Not to get political and I haven't done any research, but it would follow logically that the one time cost of the death penalty would be cheaper than life in prison for tax payers

UncleBob · « **Reply #15 on:** March 06, 2007, 01:07:52 AM »

I won't argue with you there...

18 Days · « **Reply #16 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:13:27 AM »

sentancing a man to death costs 3 million dollars. beauocracy is at fault
Also I wasn't talking about capital punishment, I was talking about the government sanctioned killing of people of a particular, uh, nationality.

odifiend · « **Reply #17 on:** March 06, 2007, 03:36:09 AM »

The luxaries that prisoners are afforded over a life time, I am sure is more than 3 million.
Ahhhh, I got you now. No real disagreement on this end.

wandering · « **Reply #18 on:** March 06, 2007, 05:53:11 AM »

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the government sanctioned killing of people of a particular, uh, nationality.

I agree we should be doing more in regards to the Darfur crisis...and that, by not doing anything, we are, essentially, sanctioning genocide. However, in, our defense, we are busy killing terrorists in Iraq and Afghanistan.

UncleBob · « **Reply #19 on:** March 06, 2007, 02:53:21 PM »

No political discussion...
...and I say this because I really want to comment on something said eariler...

KDR_11k · « **Reply #20 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:09:24 PM »

I don't like wasting money on wars that don't get us anything. On that I'd say let's end it on this quote:

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

GoldenPhoenix · « **Reply #21 on:** March 06, 2007, 09:50:24 PM »

I think all making this into a political discussion should be banned if they continue it. Like UncleBob I would say something, but personally I'm not going to play the political game, so please shut up about it there are reasons why it isn't allowed on the board.

wandering · « **Reply #22 on:** March 07, 2007, 11:30:31 AM »

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
I don't like wasting money on wars that don't get us anything. On that I'd say let's end it on this quote:

We got around to the subject of war again and I said that, contrary to his attitude, I did not think that the common people are very thankful for leaders who bring them war and destruction.

"Why, of course, the people don't want war," Goering shrugged. "Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship."

"There is one difference," I pointed out. "In a democracy the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars."

"Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country."

An excellent quote. But let's end on this one instead:

"...the consensus of U.S. intelligence agencies [is] that early withdrawal [from Iraq] would produce 'massive civilian casualties.'" - Washington Post editorial board, Saturday, February 17, 2007

Ian Sane · « **Reply #23 on:** March 07, 2007, 11:54:23 AM »

Not being able to buy a second Gamecube because of taxes doesn't sound good because a Gamecube itself is a luxury item and having two of them is largely viewed as frivolous by most of the population. When complaining about taxes complain about stuff that is largely seen as a good use of money by everyone so that you gain sympathy.

If taxes were lower I could...

...have paid off my car payments sooner.
...not have so much to pay in student loan payments.
...have bought a house sooner.
...pay for my kids to play hockey.
...have more money to save for my retirement.
...not work as much so that I have more time to raise my kids.
...donate more to charity because my expenses would be lower, thus making it easier to share my money.

Now some of those are pretty sappy but they're better arguements than "I can't buy another Gamecube".

Though my personal hatred of taxes is largely because tax money is usually spent inefficiently. Getting a chunk of your dough taken away is a little more irritating when that money is then wasted.

UncleBob · « **Reply #24 on:** March 07, 2007, 02:01:31 PM »

I don't really expect sympathy that I can't afford a second GameCube (fact is, I *could*, if I really, really wanted one bad enough... right now, I'm just waiting for a deal or a reason)... That just seemed like a good thing to gripe about. If I had more money, I'd probably have my car and house paid off sooner and give more money to charity, I won't lie and say that I probably wouldn't buy more video games - I'm sure I would... but that wouldn't be the first thought on my mind...

18 Days · « **Reply #25 on:** March 07, 2007, 07:45:46 PM »

Dont mind Ian, he is too much of a tight arse to drive tot eh store and buy Meaty Flops for Mario and mail it to Australia, despite Mario offering to pay all costs just because fuel would cost him too much.

KDR_11k · « **Reply #26 on:** March 07, 2007, 08:39:30 PM »

Not being able to buy a second Gamecube because of taxes doesn't sound good because a Gamecube itself is a luxury item and having two of them is largely viewed as frivolous by most of the population. When complaining about taxes complain about stuff that is largely seen as a good use of money by everyone so that you gain sympathy.

That's because Uncle Bob is one of those filthy rich capitalist pigs (or should we call them pinatas?).

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Author Topic: Not a political discussion... (Read 5566 times)