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RE: PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2005, 02:00:59 PM »
Excellent wording there, Spak-Spang.
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RE:PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2005, 02:07:59 PM »
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RE: PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2005, 03:50:52 PM »
At 400 bone I see that the ps3 will be just like the psp and people just use it as a blue ray player.
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RE:PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2005, 07:23:38 PM »
Gamespot's rumor control for the week had this:
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This week, a flurry of stories emerged purporting that the PS3 will cost a proverbial arm and leg. "PS3 is going to be expensive" crowed Ps3station.com, echoing Gizmodo's "PS3 to be REALLY 'SPENSIVE" piece. The popular Gizmodo cited a July 6 article on the Web site for UK gadget-and-girls mag T3 (think Stuff with cell phones) titled "PS3: Most expensive games console ever?" T3, in turn quoted an interview with Sony Computer Entertainment Ken Kutaragi in Japanese business magazine Toyo Keizai in which he said his goal for the PS3 is "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else." If the quote sounds familiar, it's because it was lifted verbatim from a June 28 GameSpot story which directly translated a quote from the original, Japanese-language article--an article which speculated the PS3 will sell for $399. While higher than the PlayStation 2's $299 initial sticker price, a $399 PS3 would not be the most expensive console in game history. That distinction belongs to the 3DO Interactive Multiplayer, which went on sale in 1993 for a whopping $699 a pop. Given the short-lived 3DO non-phenomenon and stiff competition from Microsoft, the chances of a sky-high-priced PS3 are slim.

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Ken Kutaragi. . .said [that]. . . the PS3 is "for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

Somewhere I see a fatal flaw in that logic. . .but where? Hmmmm. . .
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RE: PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2005, 08:18:08 PM »
TVMAN:  The fatal Flaw is Sony believes that the Playstation has become something that is NEEDED in society.  You only really need one of these three media devices to live and stay connected to the world:  TV, RADIO, Computer with internet.  And if you don't want to stay connected you don't need anything.

Why does Kutaragi actually think someone needs an overpriced high tech DVD player?

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« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2005, 08:29:10 PM »
I was being sarcastic.

And the "Work more hours to buy one" crap. To me it's like this: I'll buy a PS3 when it conviences me, much like with the PSP, ie; when I when one in a church raffle.
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« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2005, 06:03:35 AM »
Kutaragi:  Yeah, we should sell it for $400...  what do you mean it won't sell at that price people NEED the PS3 to survive in this new era...  but people know how to budget their own money for important things, you know like bills, PS3, cable...

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« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2005, 10:55:38 AM »
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Kutaragi:  Yeah, we should sell it for $400...  what do you mean it won't sell at that price people NEED the PS3 to survive in this new era...  but people know how to budget their own money for important things, you know like a 2nd summer home, PS3, lamborghini, private airplane...

Will somebody please send this dude to a mental hospital!


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« Reply #33 on: July 09, 2005, 10:03:51 PM »
... man are you guys just not gettting it?  Initally the price will be set at $400 and yeah there's plenty of people who are more than willing to dish that out and those casual gamers will just wait for the price drop that will follow--it's not that hard to understand.  

And budget graphicscards are like $200 (I'm talking about something that'll play a decent FPS for today's games as well as 6 months from now).  Then there's blu-ray--again I'm going get one of these anyhow so might as well go for a combo as long as the playback is good quality anyhow.

Yeah alot of you are screaming "I don't own an HDTV" so why do I care about Blu-ray.  Simple--storage, 100GB of space vrs 4.9(9GB)DVD's--you can have complete freaking seasons on a single disc.  Something to think about anyhow.

And the PSP isn't selling because there's a drought in the software department!!  Hense, look at Nintendogs or whatever it's called--it's selling hardware--since it's release along with multiple new colors DS is selling again (a few months back it was in a slump).  All the PSP needs is the right software for that extra kick but saddly it's not happening anytime soon *cough* Coded Arms failure *cough*.

Sidenote, I (like many others) was taking the wait and see approach for the handheld wars but as of E3 2005, sony just dropped the ball--I'll be getting the DS sooner or later.  At first it looked like sony would have put up a better fight (psp launch was a good success with a strong lineup), but it didn't last too long and now it looks as if sony's already looking ahead to the PS3 and forgetting all about the PSP.


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RE: PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2005, 01:45:05 AM »
The PS3 will launch at 400 when MS had enough time to hit 200-250 by that time. If the PS3 launch lineup is a similar desaster as the PS2 and PSP ones MS can deliver a mighty blow to their plans. Add to that the Revolution having all the hype with the hardcore (read: early adopter types) who will be the most influential factor in the word of mouth system and Sony might take a big hit. Of course, Sony has nowhere to go but down so taking a hit is the most likely outcome.

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« Reply #35 on: July 10, 2005, 05:50:44 AM »
"I'll buy a PS3 when it conviences me, much like with the PSP, ie; when I when one in a church raffle. "

What church is give away psp!?!? I trying getting mine from a fast food place.
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« Reply #36 on: July 10, 2005, 08:37:43 AM »
"Initally the price will be set at $400 and yeah there's plenty of people who are more than willing to dish that out and those casual gamers will just wait for the price drop that will follow--it's not that hard to understand."

That's what the said about the PSP and they didn't even sellout at launch.  And at launch they had a really full lineup so a lack of games wasn't the reason.

I think Sony is really overestimating how much people like them.  The last time I saw a console-maker act so cocky was the N64 launch.  Nintendo had a "they'll buy it because it's Nintendo" attitude and it blew up in their face.  Of course they had some bigger issues than price but the arrogance was the same.

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« Reply #37 on: July 10, 2005, 01:44:47 PM »
Ymeegod:  Price is important not just to make a profit but to set up an initial userbase.  If Sony expects to drop the price 6 months or a year later...then 3rd parties are going to have to look at which games to put the exclusives.  Next generation if Xbox has more consoles sold no amount of money Sony throws at them can help the situation.  (Because MS will be throwing the same amount of money.)  

Now Nintendo comes into the picture and not only has a cheaper price which will gobble up the market...you can release your classics on the franchise too...and use the classic to promote the new version...and with a new controller that may completely revolutionize gaming.  

Sony and its price point are going to be hurt.

And Blue-Ray DVD Movies are not sold to invest in yet.  There is still going to be a format war for the next generation movies, and we don't know if Blue-Ray will work.  I won't be stuck having to buy Sony's fixed priced movies because I bought a format that isn't supported very well.  

The jump to a new home movie system is a slow jump.  Many people are happy and don't see a need to switch.  The format that makes the switch the least intrusive will win.


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RE: PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #38 on: July 10, 2005, 02:45:43 PM »
Well that'll all depend on how much blu-rays will cost. But the switch will be slow. It seems that Sony is trying to monopolize the home movie industry, but what do I know?


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« Reply #39 on: July 10, 2005, 05:11:15 PM »
Seeing as how the trailer made by team ninja at e3 filled up 2 gigs on one xbox 360 disc that $400 might be attractive after all.  I don't know how great their compression but even with 3 times compression its not even close to blu-ray and if you're talking about a trailer then thats a pretty damn short game especially if the the trailer is supposed to be during gameplay.  I'm beginning to think they should have gone with HD-DVD.
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RE:PS3 Estimated at $400
« Reply #40 on: July 10, 2005, 05:17:54 PM »
according to some article (i didn't post it in the HDDVD or Bluray thread cause of time issues) I saw a week or so ago, Toshiba says that MS is using HDDVD and just hasn't announced it yet.

I'll look for the article but forgive me if I don't find it.

edit found it, but it wasn't an official announcement, I posted it in the appropriate thread HERE

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« Reply #41 on: July 10, 2005, 07:18:53 PM »
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« Reply #42 on: July 10, 2005, 07:21:48 PM »


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« Reply #43 on: July 11, 2005, 04:17:45 PM »
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Well that'll all depend on how much blu-rays will cost. But the switch will be slow. It seems that Sony is trying to monopolize the home movie industry, but what do I know?


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I won't. Sony has been trying to create a monopoly for years. MiniDisc, Betamax Hi-MD, 5 diffrent versions of the memory stick...the list goes on and on....
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« Reply #44 on: July 11, 2005, 04:23:59 PM »
Let's not forget 'walkman.' There was a time when portable TV ='d walkman, even it it wasn't made by Sony. And before, home console gaming ='d Nintendo;ie, "Where is the Nintendo?" "Let's play some Nintendo!" Now, it's more playstation. Sony is a bunch of geniuses at that. They just make an easily recognizeable name brand.
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« Reply #45 on: July 12, 2005, 04:50:55 AM »
TVman:  Sony isn't magical or geniuses at making a more recognizeable name brand.  Sony pretty much invented the Walkman and seemed to have a good quality product at a good price.  Everyone else seemed like knockoffs.

Nintendo was the same way with video games.  After 2 successful systems (NES, SNES) and the only successful handheld (Gameboy) Nintendo became a name for video games.  

Sony was able to steal that only after 2 full system generations of successful systems.  However, that name recongition isn't nearly as strong as it was for Nintendo because Microsoft is already stealling it back.

Besides most people still know if you say NIntendo you mean video games.  There are people that actually don't know that a Playstation is a video game system.


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« Reply #46 on: July 12, 2005, 10:47:52 AM »
People like Ken Kutargi, for example.
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« Reply #47 on: July 12, 2005, 02:51:31 PM »
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« Reply #48 on: July 12, 2005, 07:49:05 PM »
Cheaper doesn't mean jack sh!t. The DC was cheaper by the time the PS2 was released and that didn't do jack--same with the Gamecube---a more powerful system at $100 cheaper yet it sold DEAD last. I don't why everyone is getting exictited by nintendo's new system since there's zero facts released other than play standard GC discs and download past NES/SNES/N64 games. There's a few things that should have been made clear but nintendo doesn't own the rights for all the games released on those systems so junking your snes might not be the smartest move unless you're just sticking with classic nintendo's developed games. There's alot of money in these retro games--take the classic releases on the GBA ($20 a pop) which was nintendo's biggest cash cow of 2004. I'm almost sure nintendo plans on milking it for a few more dollars but at this point it's just my theory. Right now all sony really has to do is get the PS3 up and running by 360's launch with actual playable demos--yeah killzone 2 was a video but imagine if that was actual gameplay--I wouldn't think twice about dropping a mere $400 bones.  

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« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2005, 08:39:22 PM »
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I don't why everyone is getting exictited by nintendo's new system since there's zero facts released other than play standard GC discs and download past NES/SNES/N64 games.


That's just it, There is so much that Nintendo is still hiding from us that there has to be something really cool that they have up their sleeves, waiting for the right moment to reveal it so that it does not get copied like so much other stuff they have done in the past.  Hopefully, whatever it is lives up to all of the hype that is being generated.
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