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PGC Louie Awards 2004
« on: January 31, 2005, 06:42:09 PM »
This thread is for discussion of our "Best of 2004 Awards" -- The Louies.

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2005, 07:06:40 PM »
I'd just like to say I'm very upset that SaWaRu Made in Wario got voted best import because it sucks so much compared to MaWaRu Made in Wario. I'm dissapointed in all of you that voted for either of them without playing them, and picked on hype.

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2005, 07:09:51 PM »
YEAH I WON A LOUIE

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2005, 07:09:55 PM »
Yes, it's clear, Kururin should have won.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2005, 07:12:24 PM »
I'm very glad the Takahashi brothers got awarded, as Camelot is very, very awesome...Other than that I will probably say that Paper Mario 2 is still my favorite game of 2004...
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RE:PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2005, 07:21:45 PM »
Rehashed mario graphics and music we have heard before, this is what was the best of the DS.........

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2005, 07:47:09 PM »
Cool.  I just had no idea that Zero Mission came out this year.  I could've sworn I've had it for longer than that.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2005, 02:14:16 AM »
A few comments....

- Looks like I seriously need to consider buying Astro Boy. I never even heard of the game until all these year end awards gave it praise.

- The only game I imported was Naruto 3, and IMO it was pretty good....at least deserving of consideration (I can't tell if it was or wasn't).

- Somehow, it just doesn't feel right not seeing RE4 sweep the categories.  Yea yea I know, not an 04 game...but almost....

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2005, 03:02:58 AM »
I used to come to PGC almost daily a couple of years ago and back then I thought the Loui awards were great.

Perhaps its just me, or perhaps its because we are in the console-dulldrums with slow news but PGC seems to be far less interesting these days.

Perhaps its that the writers have lives. I dunno. I miss more exciting news and great editorials and reviews.

Hmmm.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2005, 03:52:16 AM »
I do kind of wish Feel the Magic would have got a nod somewhere.  It is kind of a simplistic game, but still the most 'original' fun to be had on the DS.  =)  I like the Namco praise you threw in there as well.   =)  
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2005, 04:02:20 AM »
I think we need to give the staff a break.  First there is mass complaining about no content.  Then when they listen and provide content, we complain.  

The Louie Awards obviously took quite a bit of time and consideration to put together.  Show a little respect for that.  


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RE:PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2005, 04:58:37 AM »
Someone needs to make a nifty "Free NOA" t-shirt design and get the movement going.

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RE:PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2005, 05:40:57 AM »
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- The only game I imported was Naruto 3, and IMO it was pretty good....at least deserving of consideration (I can't tell if it was or wasn't).



i voted for it famicom...maybe next year i'll lobby for only including imports that won't be coming out in the US

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2005, 06:56:40 AM »
I think chokkan hitofude was imort of the year. oh well.  good choices all around though.  "Free NOA" is probobly the best goal I've heard, ever.

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #14 on: February 01, 2005, 07:54:25 AM »
"Free NOA"?  How is PGC going to free NOA?  I was under the impression that PGC's goals should at least (a) apply to PGC, not Nintendo and (b) be somewhat realistic.  Oh well.

And I'm curious as to how Namco Tales Studio can win developer of the year when they only released one game for a Nintendo system this year, and it didn't win any awards.  
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RE:PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #15 on: February 01, 2005, 08:29:00 AM »
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Yes, it's clear, Kururin should have won.


word.

I hate how we europeans never get the less-known good games. No Astro Boy, no Katamari Damacy, etc. Why does the game-publishing world hate us? Or think we only have shallow tastes that don't go beyond FIFA?

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RE:PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #16 on: February 01, 2005, 10:44:54 AM »
"Perhaps its that the writers have lives. I dunno. I miss more exciting news and great editorials and reviews"

Well, back in 2001 and 2002 I was responsible for a lot of editorials.  I resigned I think in early 2003 as I had just graduated and was looking for a job.  Well I ended up in graduate school and now that things have stablized a bit, I've come back to PGC almost exclusively for the purpose of writing editorials again.  Maybe you'll see a few more than usual in the coming months.  I'm currently looking for a topic.  Perhaps another technology oriented editorial is in order.  In The next two years we're going to see a lot of new technology, and with the DS and PSP newly released, there is new technology around to analyze already.  Although I think we're all more interested in what the next-gen consoles will be capable of.

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #17 on: February 01, 2005, 12:48:25 PM »
Astro Boy is very fun.  Think of it as a Viewtiful Joe for GBA.  Lots of enemies, big and small.  Although I have experienced some slowdown in the game, otherwise its awesome.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #18 on: February 01, 2005, 12:56:31 PM »
;__; Yeah hey, KDR. Astro Boy finally comes out in Europe on the 16th or something. Must... consume...

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #19 on: February 01, 2005, 04:02:13 PM »
What T3h... ! I thought for sure RE4 would win best graphics XD It wasn't even runner up...
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #20 on: February 01, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
RE4 came out in 2005.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #21 on: February 01, 2005, 05:07:07 PM »
One more thing I forgot to mention since I was rushing out of the house; Looking at the biggest disappointments, in hindsight if THOSE were the biggest disappointments of the year, then the collective forum did much complaining over small issues IMO. While the DS had a weak lineup, so far it hasn't (yet?) hurt its hardware sales or perception in the public eye. Both VJ and VJ2 sold like crap on the PS2, and with RE4 coming out nearly a year after the GC version I'd expect lackluster sales for that too. When the rest of the A-list DS games come out both points will be pretty trivial.

My biggest disappointment (or suprise more fittingly, right behind E3 Zelda) would have been Silicon Knights leaving. Was a big blow to the Nintendo community see Dyack and his team go.  
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #22 on: February 01, 2005, 05:16:57 PM »
The trouble with that Silicon Knights news is that we really don't know what happened or what it means yet.  The rumors pretty much point to every likely possibility so I'll wait until Denis opens his mouth again.
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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2005, 07:17:00 PM »
OMG Thats right Paladin XD *installs desktop calender*  
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2005, 07:35:47 PM »
My biggest disappointment (or suprise more fittingly, right behind E3 Zelda) would have been Silicon Knights leaving. Was a big blow to the Nintendo community see Dyack and his team go.

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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #25 on: February 01, 2005, 07:57:30 PM »
Mario vs. Donkey Kong is better than every GBA game in 2004.  I am disappointed it didn't win anything.

Kingdom Hearts winning an award for its FMV is saddening.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #26 on: February 01, 2005, 10:23:27 PM »
Personally, I don't see how "the DS's launch lineup" can be the biggest disappointment of 2004.

I mean, the system came out of freaking nowhere. Just... "boom"... we're here.

Sure, I think the DS's lineup is a little underwhelming right now (so is the PSP's, just to keep things in perspective), and it's not making me want to run out and buy a DS, but I just don't see how anyone can have been "disappointed" by what was, for all intents and purposes, a surprise (albeit, only a "mildly pleasant" one).


Also for the runner up, "RE4 and Viewtiful Joe no longer exclusive", ummm... Viewtiful Joe was never really "exclusive". It just "wasn't being made for the PS2", and then... it was.

Getting the shaft on RE4 by itself wins the "biggest disappointment" award in my book. Although after taking a step back, I'd say that the loss of Tales of Symphonia exclusivity (was that 2004?) would've been a bigger blow, if it wasn't for Mikami's repeated assurances that RE4 would never be on the PS2, and for Namco's general incompetence when it comes to releasing Tales games in America.

If you had a "RE4 and ToS no longer exclusive" or maybe a more generic "rats abandoning the supposedly-sinking ship" option, then I think it should've won hands-down.  
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« Reply #27 on: February 02, 2005, 10:39:16 PM »
I couldn't agree more about the comment that winning an award because an FMV was on the game was disappointing.  I'd go as far as to say that disappointing is a huge understatement.  If FMV on a Game Boy was the basis for graphical quality, then surely nominating one of those Jimmy Neutron GBA Video carts would have been better?  I chose It's Mr. Pants, Feel the Magic and Alien Hominid for the graphics awards.  Not because they're technically impressive, but because visually they were the most refreshingly different games I'd seen for each of the respective systems.  It takes a lot of guts to say "Okay, we're not going to go for a game that pushes the most polygons - we're going to push for a totally unique graphic style to make our game really stand out from the crowd."  It was especially surprising to see such a move from Rare, who - let's face it - have been leaning on the pre-rendered character crutch since 1994.  It looks nice, but it was great to see something totally different and out there from them.

Also very saddened to see that Wario Ware Touched won import game of the year.  I think it's pretty silly for it to win it, especially seeing most people are going to wait for the local release which comes out in less than month.  Kururin Squash really deserved to win, not only because it won't be coming out locally, but also because it really is an awesome game with a fanstastic combination of puzzle and arcade style gameplay.  Not to mention that the graphical style is wonderful.

And finally, I'm really saddened to see that Sabre Wulf got totally ignored.  I'm not saying this as a Rare fan - I'm saying this as a gamer - this is a GOOD GAME.  You will have fun with this.  Great graphics, sound and unique gameplay all wrapped up in a pretty package and for an astonishingly cheap price.  I haven't experienced such a clever combination of platforming and puzzling since "Secret Agent" by Apogee for the PC.

Still, this is the way these things go.  Obviously awards don't please everyone.  Otherwise The Incredibles would be winning 'Best Picture' at the Oscars this year, wouldn't it?
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #28 on: February 03, 2005, 05:04:06 PM »
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Mario vs. Donkey Kong is better than every GBA game in 2004. I am disappointed it didn't win anything.


Uh what no.  That game is so 8.   I voted for Mario Pinball Land for GBA graphics--the game was meh, but it looked fantastic.

My import game vote went to Band Bros. becase I have yet to play this Squash game, but I would have voted had I known it may have prevented Wario Ware from winning.
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RE: PGC Louie Awards 2004
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2005, 02:04:28 AM »
Hey, 8 is also the rating I gave it in NoE's survey. The graphics were almost as awful as the sound. Bah, that sound was such worthless trash...