Topic: New The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword Trailer

[Stogi]

I wonder what happened to all that creativity we saw in Majora, because it hasn't manifested itself to that extent in the series since (though Wind Waker was pretty cool, too)

Unlike some people, I actually think this is the game to do that. Wind Waker was too much of a diversion from the original formula for both graphics and gameplay, so what did Nintendo do? They made TP. People complained that TP was too much like OOT (even though the similarities end at the overworld), so what is Nintendo doing? Giving us both.

I, for one, am psyched by the newest addition - upgradeable weapons. That means scouting out a chest just to find some rupees will not happen anymore or that the rupees you find will actually be useful.

[marty]

Wow, did Sean Malstrom just invade the forums?   

I have issues with how he has guided the Zelda franchise of late, but Aonuma did create my favorite Zelda game: Majora's Mask, a game that was just completely "out there" as a concept.  I wonder what happened to all that creativity we saw in Majora, because it hasn't manifested itself to that extent in the series since.

I'm not a libertarian crank, so to answer that first question, no.  Other's here have also stated the same, so maybe sr. malstrom is here... i just don't know or care.


MM is an "interesting" game much the same way the Killer 7 is an "interesting" game--I just find that they're not very fun to play.  I liked the doomy atmosphere (in MM) but the running around and fetching and repetition got old so I had my fill long before the game was over.  "Interesting" doesn't count for much after the first hour--fun has to carry a game the rest of the way.

[Ceric]

I haven't read where they say upgradeable weapons.  I hope we start with a wood sword from an old man.

[Stogi]

http://www.zeldainformer.com/2011/06/new-skyward-sword-demo-information.html

Second to last paragraph

[Ceric]

Come on Yo-Yo Sword.

[Luigi Dude]

History, rather than hype, is a far better indicator of how good this game will be.  Aonuma hasn't matched or topped Oot or LttP.  I expect him to continue ****ing around with the wrong things since he doesn't understand what the series was founded on.  This guy hasn't been good for the series and I really hope Nintendo takes it away from him and gives it to someone that at least played through the NES and SNES games.

First of all Majora's Mask is better then OoT and LttP, but second of all, it's pointless to complain about Aonuma since he's not the one making Skyward Sword.  Hidemaro Fujibayashi who directed Oracle of Ages/Season and Minish Cap is the director of this game.  Yes Aonuma is still a producer who's overlooking the game, but Fujibayashi is the person in charge of actually creating all the content in the game and making sure all the different gameplay mechanics work right.

If your going to blame Aonuma for how you think Skyward Sword might end up, then you have to blame Miyamoto for how Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess ended up since Miyamoto had the same job as producer for those three games that Aonuma currently has for Skyward Sword.

[Fatty The Hutt]

I'm really digging the visuals of this game right now. It looks like maybe they have polished them a bit since we last saw them? Or maybe NWR's video quality is just good? I dunno.
 
But I'm getting a sort of Dragon Quest VIII vibe off of these visuals. I like them.

[Chocobo_Rider]

In the last console game Link turned into a friggin' wolf.  I'm not sure how he wasn't crucified for it like Sonic was... but it went over just fine.  And still some people think that the Zelda games don't take risks/try new things?

Other M was a very radical departure for the franchise and half the audience hated it - half loved it.

So you can't blame companies for only taking small steps over their boundaries....

I'm in a rush so this was a half-formed thought... I'll add more later!

[marty]

First of all Majora's Mask is better then OoT and LttP, but second of all, it's pointless to complain about Aonuma since he's not the one making Skyward Sword.  Hidemaro Fujibayashi who directed Oracle of Ages/Season and Minish Cap is the director of this game.  Yes Aonuma is still a producer who's overlooking the game, but Fujibayashi is the person in charge of actually creating all the content in the game and making sure all the different gameplay mechanics work right.

If your going to blame Aonuma for how you think Skyward Sword might end up, then you have to blame Miyamoto for how Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess ended up since Miyamoto had the same job as producer for those three games that Aonuma currently has for Skyward Sword.

I'm not asserting anything other than personal opinion when I say that LttP is the best and that OoT was the last Zelda game worth playing through--sales and popularity might agree with me too, but that's not really important.  Disagreeing with me doesn't change the fact that MM didn't hold my attention like the previous 5 Zelda games I played did.  You like it best, whatever. 


I blame Nintendo for the current state of Zelda-- Miyamoto et al, if that helps.  I just know Miyamoto stepped down as director after OoT and that every subsequent game hasn't been as good--and the DS games are ***.  Like I said, history, more than hype, tells me what to expect from post OoT Zelda games.  If you're thrilled at the prospect of talking to Gorons and running errands for NPCs and solving puzzle after puzzle, good for you--to me, that sounds like good way to further **** up a once beloved franchise and a waste of time.

[TJ Spyke]

I am glad you said it was your opinion, because I think The Wink Waker is vastly superior to any of the previous Zelda games, and Twilight Princess is great too.

Aonuma has been great for the Zelda series (other than the awful Majora's Mask) and I hope he stays with the series for a long time since he improved the series.

[Ceric]

I am glad you said it was your opinion, because I think The Wink Waker is vastly superior to any of the previous Zelda games, and Twilight Princess is great too.

Aonuma has been great for the Zelda series (other than the awful Majora's Mask) and I hope he stays with the series for a long time since he improved the series.

Wink Waker.  Hyrule has lost the ability to Wink.  You are on a legendary quest to bring back the Winkiness.  With Cho-Aniki Inspired game content this is the Legend of Zelda that makes Wind Waker look like the Sunday Brunch of the Series.  A Zelda you won't take to your Mother.  Wink Waker Coming soon to WiiU with Facial integration.

[TJ Spyke]

LOL, I need to slow down sometimes when I am typing.

[marty]

I am glad you said it was your opinion, because I think The Wink Waker is vastly superior to any of the previous Zelda games, and Twilight Princess is great too.

Aonuma has been great for the Zelda series (other than the awful Majora's Mask) and I hope he stays with the series for a long time since he improved the series.

Wink Waker.  Hyrule has lost the ability to Wink.  You are on a legendary quest to bring back the Winkiness.  With Cho-Aniki Inspired game content this is the Legend of Zelda that makes Wind Waker look like the Sunday Brunch of the Series.  A Zelda you won't take to your Mother.  Wink Waker Coming soon to WiiU with Facial integration.

Scarily accurate.

[Caterkiller]

To all the idiots complaining about Aonuma, he isn't even directing this game. Which looks fantastic.

The comments on this page are the most idiotic I've ever read.

You must have never taken a visit to IGN.

[Chocobo_Rider]

To all the idiots complaining about Aonuma, he isn't even directing this game. Which looks fantastic.

The comments on this page are the most idiotic I've ever read.

You must have never taken a visit to IGN.

Why would anyone go there? =P

[AV]

I'm disappointed that this trailer has like 20% new content compared to E3 Trailer.

[ShyGuy]

[broodwars]

Of course, the opposite of that statement would also be considered equally ridiculous: going onto message boards and praising games you've never played.

As for Other M, that game's problem wasn't that it tried radically new things, but that it didn't do them particularly well.  It tried to craft a compelling narrative and add dimensions to the Samus character, but the storytelling was so terrible and the characterization was so insulting to fans of the character that it backfired.  It tried to streamline the experience with less of a focus on backtracking, but it made the world feel very artificial and less interesting than usual.  It tried to meld the 1st and 3rd person perspectives, but the gameplay constraints between the two didn't make a lot of sense and had issues for some with being triggered on command.  I'm happy that Other M tried to expand beyond what had previously been done with the franchise.  I just would have preferred the project had been handed to people who knew how to make these elements compelling (i.e. someone other than Sakamoto).

[BranDonk Kong]

God forbid that the greatest game series of all time includes things from earlier games in said series.

[ShyGuy]

Link is now called Markus and the master sword is a chainsaw gun. INNOVATION

[Chocobo_Rider]

Link is now called Markus and the master sword is a chainsaw gun. INNOVATION

+1

[broodwars]

Link is now called Markus and the master sword is a chainsaw gun. INNOVATION

Hey, it's easy to mock the concept for sounding truly absurd, but what if Nintendo did something that radical?  What if instead of a sword/shield-wielding elf from a quasi-medieval world, Nintendo played with the concept and set it in a different kind of universe?  The core concept of the "legend" in the Legend of Zelda is "unknown kid goes on a quest to save the world and become a hero, usually saving a princess and defeating great evil in the process".  Maybe Nintendo could go all Star Wars/Firefly/Outlaw Star-y and make Link a backwater urchin living on a Frontier Space-Colony who hears the call to adventure and saves the universe from great peril.  Maybe he's a rancher in a Red Dead Redemption-esque Western.  Maybe he's a kid off the streets in a contemporary setting.  It's not like Nintendo hasn't considered this in the past, considering the alleged story Link's Crossbow Training was originally going to have with a gun falling through a time portal.

With a concept as broad as Zelda's, there's no reason we couldn't see Nintendo do something truly bizarre and new with it like they have Mario and Kirby.  Why not?  Nintendo's already set the Zelda Universe several times in Waterworld, once in Groundhog Day, and one game with a magic train (Galaxy Express 999?).  Maybe something like that could work, and maybe it would be a spectacular failure.  I'll still gladly take something that ambitious and risky over another game like Twilight Princess.  It's not like Nintendo doesn't have money to throw around at grand experiments like that.

[MegaByte]

It would be cool if they did all of the above in the same game, with the Links ultimately cooperating across time to battle some greater evil.

[broodwars]

It would be cool if they did all of the above in the same game, with the Links ultimately cooperating across time to battle some greater evil.

Indeed.  Or how about an even greater step (though this is too big to be just a Zelda game): maybe in that Sci-Fi universe, you can go on missions with the Star Fox team; hunt bounties with Samus Aran; or meet up with Capt. Falcon for a quick F-Zero race.  Maybe it's one big Kingdom Hearts-esque Nintendo universe, but hey...that's just the Nintendo fan in me.  There are just so many possibilities that could be explored with this franchise that we've only scratched the surface of, and it's not like Time Travel or Parallel Universes are strangers to the Zelda franchise.

[Stogi]

It would be cool if they did all of the above in the same game, with the Links ultimately cooperating across time to battle some greater evil.

The Legend of Zelda's Eternal Darkness: Link's Requiem. Sign me up.